Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1479: Listener Live Coaching (Q&A)

Episode Date: January 30, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. How Adam’s neighbor keeps himself motivated. (4:04) Why low-carb diets are the best for controlling insulin resistance. (11:10) Will we be able to control AI? (15:40) Could CRISPR technology tempt athletes to change their DNA to get an edge? (23:33) How Netflix is the junk food of streaming. (28:51) Why is Nicholas Cage in EVERY movie?! (32:17) The guy’s make the case for the benefits of whey protein. (36:24) What does the current trend look like for personal trainers and the gym industry? (41:34) #Quah question #1 – What are some different programs or exercises that I can give my soldiers to improve their overall power output/performance? (47:26) #Quah question #2 – What advice would you give to personal trainers to improve their confidence surrounding the content they put out? (54:30) #Quah question #3 – How do I avoid fitness plateaus when in a high rep phase? (1:04:45) #Quah question #4 – How do I train post-baby to rebuild my pelvic floor? (1:13:52) Related Links/Products Mentioned January Promotion: MAPS Fitness Starter Bundle 50% off! Study compares low-fat, plant-based diet to low-carb, animal-based diet Mind Pump #1475: Eating Meat Is Good For The Climate With Robb Wolf Computer scientists: We wouldn't be able to control super intelligent machines Competitive athletics: Detecting CRISPR/Cas gene doping 'Godzilla vs. Kong' makes its HBO Max debut on March 31st Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Whey Protein May Help Control Type 2 Diabetes Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Join the Revolution in Nutrition Coaching – NCI Certifications x Mind Pump COVID Lockdowns May Have No Clear Benefit vs Other Voluntary Measures, International Study Shows Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Performance MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products Stop Working Out And Start Practicing - Mind Pump Media 3 Things You Should Know Before You Become a Personal Trainer – Mind Pump Blog The Most Important Skill For Personal Trainers – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump TV - YouTube Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products MAPS Split - Mind Pump Media Losing Weight After Having Your First Child – 3 Steps to Follow – Mind Pump Blog How To PROPERLY Do The Bird Dog Exercise – Mind Pump TV How to Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt (BECAUSE SIT HAPPENS!) | MIND PUMP Activate Your Glutes & Accelerate Butt Development with Butterfly Floor Bridges – Mind Pump TV MAPS Starter | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Pollack, Ph.D. (@phdeadlift)  Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You're listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is MindPong. Now in today's episode, we got live collars calling in asking us questions about fitness and health. So we got to help them out and coach them live on this episode,

but before we get to that, we did an introductory portion. We were talking about current events. We brought up some studies, we had some fun conversation. We mentioned a few sponsors. The intro portion was 37 minutes long. Here's what we talked about in that part. We opened up by talking about the guy running around Adam's neighborhood that Adam is checking out because he thinks he's long. Here's what we talked about in that part. We open up by talking about the guy running around Adam's neighborhood that Adam is checking out

because he thinks he's attractive. Then we talked about how low carb diets are the best for insulin. I know that sounds silly and yes, duh, but apparently people debate this. So a study was done. He was studying studies. And they did some controls and they found that

even with higher calories, low carb is best for insulin and glucose management. Then we talked about a study, another DUST study. Scientists have talked about how AI will never be able to be controlled when it's super intelligent. Proving my theory, so. Then we talk about CRISPR athletes testing for that and myostat blocking drugs. Then we talk about Nicholas Cage, the actor that's in everything, including an old movie from the, I believe the 80s.

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so there's this guy in my neighborhood right now. And I, I, I seen it like, I don't know, I want to say probably about a year ago, the first time and it's like super consistent right now. And I wonder if like I, he's a fit. He's in a fitness for sure. Dude's fit. Definitely fit. And he runs it like, uh, so if you're in the Willow Glen,

San Jose area. I'll fit Izzy. Well, he's like fit like, you know, like. Describe him. Yeah. He's like, see? Somebody's been checking out the neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm blushing right now. No, so he runs around the area where I live, but here's the funny part, what he does. And the first time I thought it was like a fluke, like maybe just randomly caught somebody who was talking and doing the same time. He runs with AirPods in and he talks to his boys. And he does these, it's about a,

I'd say it's about a quarter mile loop around the houses around my neighborhood And he probably runs fucking ten of them and so about every you know five or six minutes He comes through my and you can hear him like three blocks because he's talking to and he's talking to his boys like Oh my god, did you see the game? It's like so loud because it's in his year. He's running and he's talking. I don't want to trip that guy dude He has this, Wow. He's so annoying.

Why? He's just, he's so annoying. Oh, it's late. It's late, he's gonna check him. It's late too. He does it like at nine, 10 o'clock at night. So it's probably when I'm walking the boys for the second time, right,

before they go to bed, and I'll be walking him out there, and I can hear him around the block coming. And he's, you know, sure, and dude, this dude runs shirtless in the winter. Right now, it was raining and he was out. That's what made me like, think of the story. I'm like, I've been meaning to bring him up.

You might be a badass, Justin. You might try to trip him and beat you up. Yeah, whatever. I'll, you know, from Bush. He won't see me. Or he's a big mind pump fan and he loves Justin. No, he used to. Well, he used to.

He used to like, just don't be annoying. Hey, he found a hack, you know, a way to keep himself motivated. Good for that. Good for him. No, I'm not hating whatsoever. I just think it's kind of funny. Like I just, when I have a conversation with somebody,

even if I have airpods and it's like at a normal level. And I'm cognizant of people in my vicinity so they can't like hear my conversation. I always feel like those people want, you know, you to come into their conversation. So that's what I hold you in. That's what I get, Justin. I get the feel of like, listen to me, you know,

or look at me. What's he saying? I got my shirt off. And what's he saying? Yeah, those investment picks. So I have 400%. Oh, totally. I've heard like business, I've heard business conversation,

I've heard sports conversation. I've heard. I've got so many girls coming after me. I remember now it's crazy. It's so crazy anyway. I'm definitely the buffedest guy in the neighborhood. This is weird how Seoul works out my favor. I work out sometimes at like six or six,

30 in the morning in my garage and people will walk by my garage often from some of the other places around me. And I know it's gotta be weird for them because especially if it's cold, I keep the garage closed. So if they walk by and I have my headphones on, I don't put the music on a speaker.

So all I'm sure is grunting. All they hear is a cake, yeah. A creak, a cake. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I'm definitely, and I do realize working out with you guys, I'm definitely the loudest. You're the most audible of all of us. You guys are pretty quiet.

Doug makes noise a little bit when we work out. Justin is silent, which is very strange. Yeah, it's kind of psychos. Must be creepy when you have sex. I'm going on over here. I'm going to be quiet. Messy but quiet. Like that.

I'm delicate. But I'm definitely the loudest. I noticed this. Why am I listening? I listen in body language. That's my thing. I have levels to it, right? So I think I can be as audible as you are. It's not working out hard right now. I guess I'm just not trying to think I'm training that hard right now. Or maybe I was. So I've definitely backed off a little bit because I kind of went ham like that first month and a half

or so whatever it's been since we've been working together, like working out. I know better too, I wasn't training anymore than three times a week consistently for an extended period of time. And now I'll send them in the gym six days a week. And with you guys. Yeah, there's no way you can't make crazy grunt noises. I've always found that bizarre.

If people can struggle through a PR, just like, oh, oh, oh, you gotta let it out, man. Yeah, well, here's the truth behind the science behind it.

It's like in martial arts, when they teach you to ki, when you're martial arts, what you're essentially doing is you're bracing your poor while releasing your breath. Because if you just hold your breath, you're doing arts. What you're essentially doing is you're bracing your poor while releasing your breath. Because if you just hold your breath, you're doing sets of 10 reps, you're gonna pass out. So you gotta let it out, but you gotta brace your core

so it's gonna be like, it's not gonna come out like there's tension there. Yeah, you gotta love. Dude, that attachment, what's that attachment called? Does anybody remember the one I put on the barbell over there? Oh, I love that, by the way. The shoulder press?

You ordered it. I can't remember. It's called that. You know what? I have no idea. I've actually never barbell over there. Oh, I love that, buddy. The shoulder press. You ordered it. I can't remember. Let's call that. You know what? You know what? I have no idea. I've actually never used one of those. I've never seen one before, never used one, and then who was it that was using one?

Uh, that was a bend. Yeah, I think it was a bend, Paul. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's called a Titan something. Anyway, we jimmyed it so that one side of the bar is on one side of the cage on the safety. The other side is where the attachment is. Is that how you're supposed to do it? That's how he showed to do it. So he did a post, because he does this in his videos quite

often, and then he did a post showing how they set it up. So we set it up over here. Oh my God, it feels so good. I'm going to use it today. The fold, when you come up and get full extent pump from that. Yes, it's definitely a body builder shoulder press. Well, of course, it's like in front of you. It reminds me of kind of like the hoist machine. Have you used the shoulder press for the hoist machine? Yeah. As you press, your body kind of goes away.

Yes. You kind of push your body into it. Yeah. No, but this one you move forward as you push up because of the angles, you get really good extension. It actually reminds me more of a hammer strength. Because you know a hammer strength machines, the angles mean that the weight will be heavier or lighter depending on where you're pressing it.

So because of the angle, it's actually heavier at the bottom, at the top it's a little lighter. So you get this crazy, well this is what I used to like from the landmine. I mean it's similar to that, but it's definitely, even on another level than that for sure. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, this morning I did, here's one thing that never changes, it's really annoying. I don't care how fit I get, leg workouts,

make me want to throw up and go to bed afterwards. I just like, I can't even, if it's all focused on legs yet, it's hard to kind of, you know, just keep going. I mean, one hour leg workout for me, I might be able to get nine sets or 10 sets. I can't get more than that. It just can't squeeze it in. It's just a high wrap, too.

Oh, and I did that today. I was doing those, those gobbled squats on my heels, elevated that you had me do a little while ago. I didn't enjoy leg workouts until it was full body. You know, like the, the, the, the pure leg day by itself, I'm still like, this is bullshit. It's too much. It's this bullshit, this is not bullshit. It's not a stupid.

This is communist. Hey, so anyway, so anyway, you guys want to hear, I love when studies come out that are, you always ask yourself, really, do we need to do a study like this? So there's a couple of them. One is nutrition based and then the next one is something about AI, which I can't wait to talk about that

with you Justin. Okay, so let's talk about the nutrition one first. What do you want to talk about with me? Huh? Why don't you want to talk about with me? Well, you like that kind of stuff too, but you're like, you shy away from like the cool theory of yourself.

I shy away. You make fun, you know. You dive in. You know when the apocalypse happens, you know, Justin and I are gonna be like, I told you so. I know. You know, we'll be floating the whole time while the world is ending.

No, anyway, so they did a study on diet. And so the series what they found, let me see, I'm gonna click on the link so I can tell you where it was done. This was done in the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases. Okay, so here's a summary of the studies was in Science Daily.

People on a low fat, plant-based diet, ate fewer calories, but had higher insulin and blood glucose levels compared to when they ate a low carbohydrate animal-based diet according to a small but highly controlled study. So here's what's good about the study. It was controlled, meaning the meals were given to them, so it wasn't like a survey,

which is very, those are terrible diet studies. So this was controlled. And they had the people eat a low fat, lower calorie diet. So you know the argument's always like, oh, it's about the calories. It's about carbs. Not carbs versus, yeah. Yeah, it has nothing to do with the carbs

when it comes to glucose or insulin. It's, oh, it's just the low calories. They put them on plant-based diet. They all had a lot of protein. It was just plant-based protein on this one, except they ate low fat, so higher carb. The other than when they switched them to the animal-based diet, it was low carb, higher fat, and higher calorie. So they ate more calories, and yet their glucose and insulin were better.

So according to the study, and this is again drum roll, low carb diets are probably better for insulin. It's insulin resistance. Yeah, mind blown. What is that what is that translate into though? What does that matter if if the weight loss thing doesn't change? No, the weight loss they're actually the people did lose more weight Oh, lower calorie. Oh, okay. They did so they did lose more weight of course because the calories were so here's the deal And this is how many less calories they had because you think how many how many less calories couple hundred? No The main results show that the people on the low fat diet ate 550 to 700 fewer calories per day than when they ate the low carb diet.

Despite the large difference in calorie intake, participants reported no difference in hunger and joining the meals or fullness or whatever. But participants lost weight on both diets, but only the low fat diet led to a significant loss. But that all be, of course, because they ate lower calories. But when it came to glucose and insulin, it was the low carb diet.

They didn't do any body fat testing. It was just weight. Yeah, it was just... And what is significant? Come on. What can't get a number there? We can't get an average? Oh, geez, I'd have to look up the study and get deeper on that. I mean, oh, well, I mean, you figure,

if you're eating five to 700 less calories in the other group, you're gonna lose more weight, for sure. I don't know how much more depending on how long they were doing it, but you're gonna lose more weight. But I like the, because again, the argument that, especially you get this, especially from the vegan pro-vegan community, is that the, you know, like, what was it? Was it, what the health? No, was that the one you know, like, what was it?

Was it, was it what the health? No, was that the one? Yeah, what the health is a garbage one? Yeah, that was the one that we watched, or game changers. Were they, they were saying that no diabetes and insulin resistance, it's from fat, it's from animal fat, animal protein,

it's not from carbs, carbs don't cause that. And if your calories are low, then whatever, well, the study shows that the calories are higher and yet they had better. It's in a straight forward, but yeah, I guess we do need studies to kind of, well, the study shows that the calories are higher and yet they have better. It's in a straight four, but yeah, I guess we do need studies to kind of, because of all these theories that are out there. Yeah. How about the heat that you're getting

for the Rob Wolf episode, huh? That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. It's difficult. I thought that was a great episode. I thought it was. I thought it was too. I thought I don't get it.

But I love this so reasonable. It's like what we talk about. I love this debate. I think it's an important discussion to have. And I think oftentimes when we look at issues, we tend to get myopic and we don't focus on all of the unintended consequences or downstream events of making a change. So it's like you can say switching to paper bags is better for the environment because the paper bag, you know, biodegradable and the earth faster. But then we may not consider what it takes to produce them.

Right, what it takes to produce some into travel. And if they get reused and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I just picked a random argument. I'm not arguing one side or the other. I'm just saying you gotta look at all of those downstream. So let's move to AI. Does this support my theory that it's gonna be the antichrist? No, but I'm gonna get there. I love that. What a great theory. What a my theory. this support my theory that it's gonna be the antichrist? No, but I wanna get there.

I love that. What a great theory. That is my theory. So here's the title of the study. So this was, the source of the study was from the Max Planck Institute for Human Development. So if you guys aren't familiar, this is a, I mean, high thinking place, right?

So here's the title of the study. Computer scientists, so this is their findings. We wouldn't be able to control super intelligent machines. So this was, that's a just study this. Wow. So it says, basically using theoretical calculations, an international team of researchers shows that it would not, it would likely not be able to, to control a super intelligent, artificial intelligent. Obviously not be able to control a super intelligent or an official intelligent. Obviously, we'll be able to outsmart you. Yeah, well, some of the things that they said were we can disconnect it from the internet so we can do this and they're like,

well, it's smart enough it'll figure things out. Another theory is, well, if we teach it to never harm anybody, then we can whatever. And they say, well, actually, yeah, no. My brother and I was trying to explain to me quantum computers. And I just, I couldn't even stick with it. Like it was just so out there. Like he's like, basically, there's no real need for it. It's just the processing speed and the power and the,

like it's on such another level that it's hard to comprehend. And it's like, why? Why are we even going in that direction? What's that gonna do for humanity? Nobody's even thought about that. Well, if they have quantum computer, like a legit quantum computers that people can use, then your passwords are worthless.

Yeah, because it can literally do, I mean, theoretically, an almost infinite number of calculations now, all the same time. Way faster. Yeah, so it's pretty crazy. So back to your theory. Yeah. The best theory I've ever in my life So your theory is that the AI is anti-Christ. Yeah, that the anti-Christ that is talked about in the Bible, right?

Yes, he solves all the problems Great and all that stuff. I didn't come up with this is not a person, but rather AI Emergent of the mergers. I can get down with that because what's most likely to happen with this is that we are going to continue to create these machines to make our lives easier. I mean, that's been the evolution of it so far. Why would that change? Drive our cars around for us, do our work for us,

get our food for us, or our friends. Sink for us. Right. So here's where I'm at because of what I've seen in the world and how reliant people are for other people to tell them how to think, what to do, how to react. Nobody's using their own brain to apply critical thinking. So it's already happening as far as I'm concerned.

Well, and then your theory on like using the Bible, the anti-Christ, is that this, the whole idea is that we're going to create this future that is heaven-like, right? Where you get everything you have in your life. Yeah, but yet we're gonna be unhappy and shit. Yeah, well, the controlled completely. Yeah, like imagine if we, because here's one of the problems, obviously, is that humans make mistakes,

and markets are great at allocating resources and figuring out problems, but they're still a trial and error process. Central planning doesn't work very well because it's impossible right now to predict every possible outcome and what's the best thing or whatever. But let's say theoretically,

we had this like super intelligent machine that could literally plan society. That tells you exactly what to do, what to do and who should, for the betterment of humanity, die or not survive, or hey, look, it makes sense that we, we genetically engineer humans, and we abort all these, whatever people who have these genetic issues that are not intelligent,

we're not tall enough, or whatever. As it makes sense that we do this thing in the environment to block out the sun, and so we start doing all this crazy stuff because the computer tells us and there's no objective morality behind it. Right, there's no criticism or anything like in place to slow anything up. Yeah, you know, you guys want pleasure. Let me just hook you up to this machine. You don't have to give it to you right away.

I'll feed you and you'll just be in pleasurable ecstasy 24-7 all the time. That's my theory. My theory, it's going to be the plug-in and unplugged people. That's what I mean. I know, I just, I believe that. It sounds like a good sci-fi movie, to be honest with you. There already is.

The Matrix, pretty much. Or the Syracits, right? That's like that. There's, so there's already been a movie about it. It just, to me, what we keep seeing is that makes the most obvious what will happen first. So before AI is taking control of the entire world, it'll be a simulated world.

It'll take over first, right? I feel like, and then you'll have the option to plug into that or not. And I think that it'll be better than a lot of people's reality. And so I think a lot of people will succumb to it. They'll say, why go out in this world? Where I'm depressed and people make fun of me.

And it's hard. Yeah, it's hard and I get in fights. And I struggle time. We're here in this virtual world. I can do whatever I can make myself look the way I want it to look, I can have as much money as I want to have. Yeah, I am. And I just, I think that,

and I think why it'll get pushed is because I think that we'll support it with how many people it's helping. Like that's why it'll get traction is because, you know, roll out, people that had depression and had these issues, you'll start to see it like resolve that. Like all of a sudden they're happier and then we're gonna start to say like, well look what it's doing.

Absolutely. I like to take it to fitness because we have an audience. Fitness audience and that's obviously, you know, our expertise, but if you're not AI, well no. Yeah, that's not all. If you took away all of AI, well no, it's not at all. If you took away all of the challenge and pain and struggle that is associated with training your body and eating right, right?

If you eliminated all of that and just got the results, right? If there was a way to make people perfectly fit and perfectly healthy and they didn't have to do all the trial and error and all the work. 95% of people would sign up for it. They would sign up for it, and you know what's funny? They would soon realize that they would not get

nearly the same benefit that you get from going through, and I can appreciate it that way. It's not, and not only not appreciate it, but most, and I can say this 20 years as a professional, and longer as someone who's worked out. To be honest with you, most of the benefit I got from fitness and nutrition was the struggle.

It's not from the- Well, that's where the value lies. That's 100% right. It's just like the money thing, right? It's no different than somebody who is comparing somebody who has worked their whole life to achieve being a millionaire versus somebody who hit the lotto and was a millionaire overnight.

The value of that dollar is gonna be completely different between those two people. And what I want to say. And you don't learn anything along the way. And I know that sounds like, you know, whatever, because some people struggle, I get that. But, you know, would it be the same to magically appear at the top of the mountain or as climbing it?

Of course not. And I know, again, it sounds easier said than done. I mean, I'm over here talking like, we need to have the struggle. And I'm sure if I was presented with opportunities where they're like, hey, Sal, you wanna get this thing with no struggle whatsoever. I'm not gonna lie, I might do it.

I feel like I'm like, I've already worked really hard and I already done it unless you before. So I feel like I've built those values. Yeah, totally. Just give me the bill. Totally. But you know what's a great classic story that talks about,

and because, you know, Alchemist. No, not just Alchemist, Frankenstein. You go freakus that, I don't know. The story of creating, you know, he created this life and he created this, it turned into be a monster, you know, and it's like, we don't even know what it means to be human.

Like, it's such still a philosophical question we don't have an answer to, but we're gonna try and create a self-aware machine. We have no idea what that even looks like. Well, I mean, I like the alchemist theory, which is that you're, you know, you spend your whole life trying to pursue this and then you get to that destination

and then you finally realize, oh shit, the real treasure was the journey there. And I was so focused on the end goal of it that I wasn't being mindful and present during that time. I finally get to the end destination, realize that when I get there, they go, oh, by the way, your treasure is all the shit that you got to go through to get here.

And you're like, fuck, why wasn't I not paying attention? I told you this. Hey, speaking of cool science stuff, you know that testing organizations are starting to look into figuring out how to test athletes because they think this is gonna happen in the future. How to test athletes to see if they've used CRISPR technology to mess with their genes.

They're trying to figure out, how do we test for this? Because when this becomes, we're going to get to a weird point where you could just alter it. Wouldn't that be in their records? No, I mean, what if they did it black mark? What if they did it black mark? Which is where most of it's at right now. It's black mark mark. Yeah.

We all know because someone will be like arm-barring. Someone and then he'll use his laser eyes to cut his head. Yeah. And then we'll get angry and like turn fluorescent. Yeah. Holy shit. We got high jumps. Something is right here.

High jumpers would knees that bend backwards like. Hmm. Well, he's bouncing really far, although it's every step, it's getting super weird. That's kind of, that's kind of straight. That's funny, they're already thinking ahead like that. Like these are going to be like major performance enhancements

that are going to be. It would make anabolic steroids so obsolete. Oh yeah. Yeah, like genetic. I sure rushes already all of this. Yeah, cool, you have 10 more pounds of muscle. I have laser eyes. Yeah, that's a cool story.

Laser eyes. But you know, of fun story. That's a cool story. Laser eyes. But you know, like a genetics, like Brock Lesnar, you could put me on all the drugs in the world. And 17 year old Brock Lesnar would be stronger than I am. Yeah. Because of genetics. But it's gonna be weird, right, when athlete,

because they're gonna get their hands on it. Of course, especially these countries that, these Olympic, you know, these, common these countries that fund this kind of stuff for their athletes, you're gonna see that shit. Oh, maybe that's a reason why it is, right? For that exact reason, it's less of what will go on here that we're probably worried they'll get our ass kicked

somewhere in the Olympics, right? So that's why it's coming out. I mean, who knows? I mean, you guys saw, remember that we brought this up a long time ago, you guys have seen those modified animals where they modify their myostatin gene. Yeah, I don't glow and no puppies that glow not the glow on that one too But I'm talking about the myostatin. Yeah, I've got one. Oh, yeah, like the dog that looks like in the bowl The bowl. Do you know what a whip it looks like without a normal whip it? That's a skinny ass

Yeah, I've seen it on that and then there's a myostatin. Where are they at with that? That's been a long time though They did that a long time ago. They're coming out with drugs that'll do that because it's, I mean, if you can give someone a drug with muscle wasting disease or whatever, with that affects myostatin, again steroids or nothing. Yeah, Doug, if you can pull up myostatin dog.

I just, we've seen this 100 times. I know, but I like to pull it up because. I know, but Jesus, we've seen this 100 times. It just looks crazy. It's been around forever though I mean that this photo you're pulling up right now at least 10 years. Oh, yeah, at least 10 years I remember I remember looking at where's the human examples dude. There are you The one in the middle That's a regular whip it and then there's the there's the Milestatin whip it. Yeah, that's regular whip it and then there's the, oh my god.

There's the Milestatin' whip it. Yeah, that's, he's a horse. Now, what is, what happened to them later on? Like, I imagine like, the rest of your organs can't handle that, like your kidneys, and your liver, they're pretty old. Like, to me, that's where,

that's where we, this would go wrong. I was like, okay, yeah, you could do this to a human and blow them all out, but then like, the rest of your organs wouldn't be able to keep up with, its functions to maintain that. Maybe, you know, there's a... It's like putting like serious horsepower in a car without doing the rear end or the

tranny or handling anything else and it's a support that kind of power. That's what I would think. And I wonder if there's varying degrees of it. Like maybe there's like extreme and then there's like, okay, this will make it more strong, but you're not going to be so, you know, muscular that you can't, you know, walk two steps. There is a natural animal that was bred and they accidentally, well, not, you know, muskah that you can't, you know, walk two steps. There is a natural animal that was bred, and they accidentally, well, not, I mean, purposely, but they didn't know what they were doing, bred it to have this myostatin gene be altered.

And that was a Belgian blue bowl. If you look at a Belgian blue bowl versus a regular bowl, it's like, I mean, because bowls are pretty damn crazy looking anyway, but a Belgian blue ball, let's see if Doug pulls up, look at that. Whoa. And so he's just, now that's, scroll down, Doug, to the middle picture. Look at this, look at this on that one.

Okay, so this bull has also been injected with this, or they've just been broken. They've been bred, and this is what comes out. Yeah, they've been bred, and now scientists can study them and say, oh, this is why they're so insanely muscular. Is that, and it's crazy, because they feed them normal, they don't exercise them.

This is interesting. So how long has this been around? Like these pictures of these bulls? I don't know. How long Belgian blue bulls have been around? Long, much longer than when they figured out the whip it, right? And they just started doing the milestone.

Yeah, these are just, they were bred this way. This is what they look like just because they've been. Is this the research that led to learning about the milestone blockers? That's a good question. I mean, I would think that's who it would stem from that. 1950s. Wow.

Yeah. So they got massive glutes. That's the fun. Could you imagine the 50s when you were the people part of this to actually crossbreed that and you saw that come out? Introducing the bull with twice as much meat You own ten bulls

I imagine how nasty that tastes Yeah, bulls are you're watch videos of like the bulls like like the running of the bulls And they find a car and they hit a car and flip it. What did that bolt do? Yeah? It's just like ushers through buildings. It's like a dinosaur speaking of which. Did you see a King Kong versus Godzilla moving coming out? No, not yet You know what that's on what HBO Max like they do those previews and stuff like I'm out of the loop with that Are you not on HBO Max? No not yet Yeah, I had a regular HBO. Yeah, I'm like I gotta do another

What the hell explain that to me there's HBO. Yeah, I have that. Yeah, you gotta pay more No, no HBO Max the same thing you know who only mean the same thing Yeah, I won't let me No, yeah, you have it you have if you have if you pay if you pay for the HBO you have HBO Max I don't think so yeah, you know you have it. If you pay for the HBO, you have HBO Max. I don't think so. Yeah, you know, by the way, look up Doug for me, I can't believe I can't, I was just talking to somebody about this because I didn't know HBO Max,

who owns it now, somebody bought it out. God, why, I was just talking about this, I can't remember what it was. Yeah, but they're coming out with like all of the new movies they're gonna drop on that platform and theaters. Yeah, yeah, see, I don't know if you guys have been paying attention to that, right? Like HBO.

Like it's Wonder Woman came out on HBO Max. And this is where why it was gonna go there. I'm still sticking to my original theory, like three, four years ago, whatever it was when we talked about Netflix. And I think that Netflix, well, who is it? Oh, Warner Media owns it.

They bought HBO Max and they bought another one. Oh, and AT&T, excuse me, right? So AT&T bottom. All right, Doug, look up HBO Max versus HBO because I'm almost positive if you sign up for HBO, you don't automatically have HBO Max. Yeah, you should, bro. No, because I have HBO and I tried to get on there

and you gotta pay extra for it. So I pay extra for both? Yep. You know, I bet you spend thousands of dollars a month on every channel, even though you just sign up for 30 bucks a month. Isn't you know you just signed up 30 bucks. Isn't really? Yeah, dude.

I didn't even know I was paying that. So Godzilla versus Kong. This can be awesome. I was a huge. It was my big Godzilla fan, yeah. Back to my Netflix point though, this I think that HBO and Apple are coming out with better original content than Netflix is.

Well, that's not a theory, that's a real. They're putting out less too. So I think they're concentrated on quality. Netflix's strategy is throwing spaghetti on the wall. Yeah, that's what their strategy is. As much as you can on the wall see what happens. And create, and did you see the recent, there's a like a female version of the bad boys

that's Netflix's next original? I feel like that's what they do. They just hack an algorithm. Bad boys with such a hit has a cult form. Here's the formula. Let's literally take all the movies of the hits of the 90s and just make a female. Right. No, it's gonna do that. They're doing stuff like that.

100% they're doing stuff like that. So I think that's Netflix's formula for trying to find a hit. But the question that I would have is, is it still working enough? You know, my theory is that, okay, HBO, now, right? I think, well, again, it's like it's the process for me. that I would have is is it still working enough? You know, my theory is that, okay HBO, maybe a family, all right. Right, I think, well, again, it's like it's the process food argument that maybe the healthier version

is better for you, whatever that. In this case, we're talking about streaming videos, right? So I think that they are the junk food, Netflix is the junk food of streaming videos. Cause they're really, well, they're like, they're like, you're indulged, you, right? Yes, exactly. They have, they've, they've, they've, they've, it's not junk food. Yeah, I know, I know it is. We're, we're splitting hairs in a food of, of, of, of, because they release all the lame, indolence, indolence, you, right? Exactly. They, they, they, they, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've, they've,

yeah, I know. I know it is. We're, we're, we're splitting hairs and a difference of like, I mean, how many documentaries you watch? Like that, that's the, that's the, that's the stuff that's, that's the, that's the, uh, unprocessed food. Is that what it is?

It's a, it's a documentary, dude. Learn some shit. Yeah. Learn some stuff. Yeah, no, that's fair. I mean, I want, we watch a lot of documentaries. There's not, I'm just, I don't watch a lot of ones on the daily.

We're the uapology in that. Yeah, yeah, it's just kind of safe. I'm I just, I don't watch a lot of ones that I really think you have fallogy in that. Yeah, yeah, it's just kind of safe. I don't watch the same documentaries as you guys. I'm interested in them. You have fallogy? Yeah. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's real science.

I love it. I want to know how Nicholas Cage made it into our notes. Which one of you is that? I put that up there, dude, because I was watching a Fast Times rich man high, and I was like, is that Nick Cage? He's like no speaking role in it, but he's like in the background.

And I'm like, this is Nick Cage dude, like I had no idea. Is that movie? Is he in the hot dog on a stick? Is he the guy that works with him? He's in the back when the flipping burgers. That's it. I remember.

Yeah. So I just was tripping out because it wasn't hype. Obviously, I guess the story behind it was he was going for the role of the older brother that was actually the one that was like, trying to keep his job and then he left that job and then got the pirate job. So he went for that, but then he had some really weird

audition where he was like improving and it went really bad apparently. So I read into that because I was like, I was tripping his, he was a Brad's bud. Oh, he's, I read into that because I was like, I was tripping in. There he is. He was a Brad's bud. Oh, it's the bud. He's the bud. He's having a name.

Yeah. Yeah, your Brad's bud. Fast times. What a great coming of age movie. Oh yeah, it's a classic. Yeah. It's on TV, I'm watching it. Yeah, it's the Coli's the best, you know.

Yeah, in that whole thing. Nicholas Casey is one of those actors too that's like Kevin Bacon. It's been like an everything that's you can probably attach him. You just feel like they always need money. Yeah, what it is. Yeah, dude. Like they're always at some tax issue or something, dude. They just need to work. You know what's funny? The internet has made, has improved his and who's the other guy? I'm thinking of Kenny Reeves. They're like, like ability. The internet, like all the memes about them.

Like now people like them I can't use like the one the nicest guys apparently like ever like is this is the great actor consensus He's the only actor. He's the only actor that can be the same character in every movie and make it work Didn't he just do something really nice? Did he just do someone barstools? He's one of the guys that was on there too. I thought he did so I thought I heard him in the news again They yeah, I don't know about how awesome he is. I feel like him and then like Bill Murray Like I always wanted to meet Bill Murray. I love that guy. Yeah, Bill. That's true. I agree with you Yeah, he's one of it's he'll randomly show up at parties. He's that guy you know my buddy caddy for him said he was amazing

Yeah, yeah, he did like my buddy got to caddy for like one of the with a celebrity golf thing that they do And said Bill Murray was just absolutely. He said him and Charles Barkley like in person and Emmett Smith and other. Yeah, those three he met all three of them in person and said that and other people too, but those were like he said like, they were great. They were like down to earth hilarious like fun to be.

Have you guys ever met a celebrity in person and then just realize that they were just a dick? You guys have any experiences like that? Yeah, Dana Stubblefield. Fuck that guy. Oh, really? He's a piece of shit. Yeah, that's what happens. Well, I mean, he's in jail now, but oh, is he in jail right now? Yeah, because he's the allegations and things that actually were true, you know, about being abusive with his girlfriend and whatnot. So, I don't know. Like I was training his girlfriend and he used to cheat bass, I remember that.

He used to cheat bass, but also, checks bouncing and he was just, I don't know, dude. He was just a real piece of work. His checks were bouncing, the pro football player? Yeah, dude. Wow. That happened, so there you go. Here's my example.

Wow, I met Phil, he and I really, I mean, in the body building, well I met Phil Heath once and you remember thinking like, you're a dick. Is he? Yeah, he was a total dick. He was not cool. Oh, he doesn't seem like he'd be that way. No, no, he was a total like.

A lot, a lot, I had a buddy that met Mel Gibson in Hawaii and said he was a total dick when he, when he met him. He was like, you like yelled at him to get away from him and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, so I heard he was a dick. I told you, I don't like, there's a, Mar-Shant Lynch, I had a bad run in with him. I didn't like him at all.

But to me, it's more, I like talking to other people that are really cool because it's, that's, to me, that's more rare. To me, probably, Ronny Lot, with my favorite encounter was somebody. He's so cool, dude. He's been in the gym, his daughter was coming and working out at 24.

I used to work out at his gym. Remember his gym? Yeah. It was Ronnie Lot's Fitness is what they called it back in the day. I mean, he's intense, dude. The guy was super intense, but like I went to football camp and met him a few times. He gave me, he was one of those guys that was really encouraging

trying to get you, you know, to learn the skill, you know, and everything. And he was, he was, he was awesome. That's awesome. Anyway, back to fitness and nutrition, I looked up way protein. I did not know that way protein had so many studies done on it and that it was actually quite exceptional.

Did you guys know that way protein is one of the best proteins for immune system health? Did you guys know that? What's the connection? Well, it's digestibility and it's high gluing content is what they think, but I'm gonna pull up some of the studies on way protein because. Now is that them comparing it to other protein sources?

Yes, okay. Yeah, so these are legit. So way protein may help treat type two diabetes better than other forms of protein. It may lower blood pressure. It may help reduce inflammation, so they found that it reduced a C-reactive protein in people who had who supplemented with Ray protein. It may be beneficial for irritable bowel disease, so if you don't have a dairy intolerance and

you have gut issues, Ray protein apparently is supposed to be one of the best ones. Kind of interesting, right? What an interesting thing about way protein. You know, it's funny, people don't realize this company's used to throw away away. Yeah. It was like the best. That left over.

It was a left over. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yes, it was. I knew that about collagen protein. Collagen protein was thrown away. And that's one that I keep getting asked.

People ask, I don't know if it's getting popular right now or there's a brand that's getting really popular, but it's a common DM question that I have to answer of people wanting to go. You know, here's the skin, the skin, and the hair angle they use. You know what's funny? So if your protein takes really high,

it kind of doesn't matter, but here's the contrary to that. How many people do you know eat a very, I mean, a legit high protein diet, not very many. Well, most people don't. And so they take something like that and they swear by it because they feel it, they see and feel different.

In that case, it does make a difference. Well, but I mean, you would make a bigger difference if you had way, because way for the exact reason that you're bringing up right now, if I had a choice, right? So I'm somebody, and that's the part that I was trying to communicate with somebody in my DMs the other day, is that? Oh, if you had way, because way for the exact reason that you're bringing up right now. If I had a choice, right? So I'm somebody, and that's the part that I was trying to communicate with somebody in my DMs to the day, is that?

Oh, if you had to pick. Yeah. So you're probably better with way. Of course you are. I mean, you're getting all the same benefits that you're getting from the college and protein, plus it's even more nutritious to the point in the study that you're bringing up right now.

So it's like, and really all it is, is that this is protein that used to get thrown away just a decade and a half ago And now the marketing has found a way to save it use it and market it But in reality if you're comparing it head-to-head with either one a mixed vegan protein or two away it loses Yeah, well way is the one of the best that you could possibly I see the problem I can't have way because it's dairy But I know you guys have it. That's it, that's your main source, right?

Yeah, I've been trying to be as consistent as possible having that way shake before I get here, you know, in the morning, and I definitely feel that, like I feel like it's been a good addition. I bounce back and forth, so I keep the legion way and I keep the organifi protein, and I find that if I'm good about alternating back and forth, I don't have any issues.

If I have a lot of way consistently, I do notice that it bothers me a little bit. So I have to just... You want to have like a mild variant all the time. I, you know, well, hence they probably eating ice cream every night for fucking 20 years. I'm sure that had something to do with it, right?

So a lot of ice cream. Yeah, yeah. And like even that, like I can't, I mean, I used to be able to eat like a whole carton of that shit before and think, I think I was fine. I'm not sure if I was or not. Where now it's like, if I have even just the slightest serving of that, I'm definitely paying for it.

And so I notice that if I have milk, away shake, and like a protein bar, it all derived from way in a day, that's enough to like kind of put me over to where it throws my stool off. If I'm really, I mean, sometimes I can get away with five, six, seven days in a row of way if that's the only source of it that I'm really getting in my day. But if I combine it with other things, which is normal in my diet, so I find that bouncing back and forth between the vegan protein and with that is the best I've felt. Speaking of protein, and this is unproven. This is just like rumor, but I hear it rumbling of it in the interwebs.

That apparently there was a discussion to potentially, or at least somebody a scientist said, hey, this might be a good idea. We should create a way to inoculate people so that they develop a meat allergy so that they wouldn't eat meat anymore to help the environment. You believe that? Somebody actually came up with that idea. Didn't Rob Wolf bring that up?

He brought it up. And then I did. And then it just mind blow. And I looked it up and I did see some articles written on it. And you know what causes meat allergies right now in nature for some people? Tick bites.

Oh yeah. So yeah, some people will develop a beef allergy because they got bit by a tick. Well, that's not associated with limes at all. That's a good question. I don't know. I think it might be associated with limes, but yeah, with Lyme disease.

Oh, I know that. Yeah, so someone brought it up. Let's make people allergic to meat to help the environment. It's so crazy to be like. Yeah, what is this agenda? It's just, I don't know, dude. Again, this is one of those things that just kind of makes

you scratch your head a little bit. Like, why is that a good idea? Yeah, it's not. I wanted to ask you guys, because I've been getting more and more DMs like this. What's the feel right now with like things starting to open back up and then trainers like, are you feeling like more trainers are going to virtual?

Are you still seeing that trend? Or now that it's starting to open back up, like what are you guys getting more trainers are going to virtual? Are you still seeing that trend or now that it's starting to open back up? Like what are you guys getting as far as in your DM? The trainers that I've talked to who went virtual are gonna stay because they're finding more success going that way. They're not working for someone else, so they're able to obviously keep more of the money.

They're finding their clients like it, they're doing very well, not on the flip side. I think there's a lot of people that tried to go virtual that just couldn't do it, it's different. It's very different. No, I've had the same, like a lot of my friends that were in the business for a long time, and I was at those personal trainer gyms,

like they're just not motivated to go back, like they've kind of rearranged, and they're either focusing on a different career or they're doing that completely virtually, but I'm also getting like half of the DMS are like brand new trainers like wanting to know how they can start right now And I'm just like wow this is interesting. Well, I'm still surprised on how many our audience that still hasn't like gone over to all the NCI stuff because they have so much Good free content that they provide. They have a free, they have a coaches cheat sheet. That's free right now

So you can literally go on there and it doesn't cost anything and it literally, and it's very valuable and it'll break down, especially if you're getting started how to be an online coach. Yeah, no, I feel like online or not. I feel like the content that Jason and them over at NCI are producing and so much of it's free that they do for our audience, that if you're a listener of ours

and you haven't gone over and you're either considering being a trainer, you're already a trainer and you're not taking advantage of all the content they have, I think is just ridiculous. Well, it does look like things are starting to open back up. I know here in California, just an unexpected turn of events, the governor just announcing he's reopening things. I know in other cities and states, they're talking about how they need to reopen. Couple votes, shy of recall. Yeah, it's open. Yeah, there's a pretty cool connection there whatsoever. No, nothing to do with that.

But yeah, no, things are apparently, you know, they're starting to move forward with opening things up. And this has been such a devastating blow to the gym industry just in general. In general, but gyms in particular just didn't get no love. It's not like you think you can take out, you know, at least not to play it down. Restaurants got hit very hard also. I have family members at own restaurants. But you know, when you own a gym and there's no take, is I think you can do take out with a dumbbell or whatever, you know,

or do you work out? Yeah, no, completely fucked. Most of them all, I mean, you know what we should do, like a follow up on all the buddies that we had on the show with that talked about that mark. And I haven't talked to Scott in a while. Like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, I'd love to see how they're doing now. Yeah, I'd be interesting to see how everybody pivoted, you know, because it was not, it was

what, it was a good solid, I would say four months, five months ago when we did that. When we did. It has been longer than that. I think so. Yeah, and some of them, I mean, we talked, five months ago when we did that. Longer. Has it been longer than that? I think so. Yeah, and some of them, I mean, we talked off air about some of these companies that were considering bankruptcy and stuff, or already back then, so I'm curious to where everybody is at today, because it didn't get better, really, in the last five to six months, unless they had massive pivots, where they went like all virtual.

I think we're going to look back and we're going to say that telling people that they couldn't work out in a gym was one of the stupidest things that we ever did. I really do. I think we're gonna see just worse health as a result and we're gonna find that gyms were not super spreader events at all. And studies are already showing that. I agree, but I also think there's been

a really positive thing from all this. I do think that I have never seen so many, at least, and I don't know if this is my own bubble because we're on a podcast and we sell these digital at home type programs, but I feel like I've never seen so many people working out in their garage right now, ever in my life. I mean, I walk in my neighborhood

and I see it all time now where someone's garage doors open, they got like a whole set up, I can't help but like peek in and be like, oh, what do they got going on in there? Like, never saw that before. I mean, I thought it would be super rare to meet somebody who had a gym inside their garage. I felt like you had to be like a really serious lifter to spend that kind of money on a garage gym.

Where now I feel like, I don't know, it's relatively affordable for people to do that. When you do the math on how much of gym membership it costs over a couple of years. And so a lot of people are investing in a gym at their house. Huge. And I just think that we're shifting. Huge markets can look different.

Huge market shift. This is why Peloton and Tonal and all those companies are crushing. I know Peloton's continuing to crush as people are the demand for fitness is still there. But I mean, there's still people that fall through the cracks. There's people that don't have a garage, there's people that can't afford,

because here's the thing about a gym, you pay a monthly fee, like you're renting fitness, buying equipment or a peloton's, thousands of dollars, something that's can't be easier to invest in. Yeah, but you guys know that peloton, PRX, all these companies offer these payment plans that are less than memberships. Yeah, that's true.

Peloton has one that I want to say there's is 60 something bucks a month. Yeah, that's true. So, and one that I want to say there's is 60 something bucks a month. Yeah, that's true. And I forgot about it. PRX is the same thing. They do the same thing. That was very smart. Yeah, I mean, Katrina and I are just talking about this.

I'm so bad. I'm still, I haven't canceled three of my gym memberships and I haven't been in almost a year now. It would be, Put that down to the IRS's donations. Well, I mean, it would be, it would be a lot cheaper for me to go get the PRX setup inside of our garage and do that. It would be, I'd save money by canceling those

and then just going on and then when it what is in a couple of years, I have all the equipment all paid off and it's mine. Right, right. Yeah, so. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,

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So I'm in the Army and you know, the Army is trying to transition to this new PT test. And one of the events is called the standing power throw. So it's kind of like, you know, like the strong man, they do the keg toss thing, but except for, instead of vertical distance, it's more horizontal distance with a 10 pound medicine ball. And I'm just trying to think of different ways

or different exercises to incorporate or to give my soldiers to kind of improve their performance. So like right now, doing a lot of heavy kettlebell swings and also doing a lot of like squat jumps, like power, to increase power up. But so, okay. Anything else would be appreciated? Yeah, I'm gonna ask you a few more questions

just so I can get a little more specific. Is this an isolated test? Or are you doing this right after a run or other activities in the test? So you're doing it right after deadlifts, so you're already getting power from that. But yeah, it's just a single event. And what does the deadlift look like? Are you doing reps?

Are you doing a single? It's a three rep max on a hex bar. Okay. It's a three rep max on a hex bar. Okay, so you go three rep max hex bar straight to throwing a 10-pound medicine ball behind you and looking for distance vertically horizontally, or is on a excuse me Yeah, all right perfect So you're you're on the right track You can actually I don't know if you if you have the ability to do this, but you could actually do

track. You can actually, I don't know if you have the ability to do this, but you could actually do kettlebell throws behind your body outside as well. If you're in a grassy field, it's a great extra, I love this exercise. You take a kettlebell, start it like you would with a medicine ball, kind of on the floor, maybe between your legs, and then you launch it behind you to see how far you go. That was a couple of ways I would practice this, I would practice this with a lighter kettlebell for speed. And then I'd practice it with a heavier kettlebell for the strength aspect. Do you have access to any of our maps workout programs? I do not.

Okay, so maps performance would, I would say would probably be the best one or strong. Or strong. Of course, I think strong too with the, because we have over the shoulders, sandbags in there, we've got the single arm snatch in there. Those are all good movements that are going to, I think, translate well for the test. Now, what's the distance that you guys need to reach

and on average, where are your soldiers hitting? It varies. I think the, like, very most basic level is like four meters, so it's not super far and then the max is right around 12. So not significant amounts of distance. And then obviously with our female soldiers who have seen them have a hard time even getting into the baseline. So. Okay, something else to pay attention to is your technique because it's a technical, you know, we think a lot about the strength and the power, but there's a lot of extension going on in that kind of a throw.

So practicing the skill would be also available. I was gonna bring up, and so you mentioned like, box jumps and like vertical jumps, anything with triple extension where, you know, you're driving through your feet and we're getting that knee extension, we're getting the hip extension, we're getting the arms overhead. You know, those are definitely exercises

to concentrate on and I'm trying to visualize this. So you said throwing it horizontally, but you're still picking it up and basically throwing it behind you horizontally, is that correct? but you're still picking it up and basically throwing it behind you horizontally, is that correct? Yeah, so you pick it up and your back is to the, you know, wherever you're throwing it. Yeah. And then you just either do like a hip-hanger squat, you know, and like throw it over your head, just like you're passing anything, just straight double arm over the head. Okay, yeah, so that's perfect. Basically, too, with the squat jumps or a box jumps,

just make sure that every single wrap is done with intent. So that's why fatigue is something you want to kind of minimize with these types of exercises and just really work on that explosive speed and get fluidity out of these movements. So the faster you can, you know, get into that extended position, the better, and you're gonna be able to drive more ground forces

through your feet. So that's really the focus and intent and just try to eliminate the fatigue aspect in terms of trying to improve that specific exercise. I'm gonna keep going back to strong. I think there's a lot of movements and strong that are gonna transfer over into this. So why don't we hook Chris up with map strong and utilize some of the exercises

that are inside there, especially since a lot of this is like that upper back strength, too. Right? Of course, it's triple extension. We got hip to explode it out, but that overhead portion of launching that thing. Remember, we did this at the beach when we were messing around a few years ago. We entered in the sand. Yeah. And, you know, I really can't emphasize this enough. It's a, there's a lot of technique involved. So, you can practice the skill of the throw with a lighter medicine ball and just pay attention to the technique because like if you squat too much, you're going to get more vertical

than you are horizontal, for example. Let's say you lack shoulder mobility, well then you're going to release the medicine ball maybe a little too early, right? If you lack that kind of mobility. So the skill plays a big role. One thing you can also do, by the way, is you could also use resistance bands where you have a resistance band anchored at an angle in front of you and you're just focusing on the extension exploding backwards kind of to give you that technique and that speed. Yeah, strong is a perfect program.

I mean, even with the sandbags doing hand cleans and like a shouldering like Adam was talking about, circus press, there's a lot of explosive movements and they'll really benefit what you're talking about. Awesome, well thank you guys so much. I appreciate all the feedback and I'll look to implement all of that and hopefully give me some good results for my troops. Yeah, no problem. And thanks for your service. Thanks, Chris. Of course, guys. Thank you very much.

Yeah, it's an interesting test that they're doing. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, and you know, I can imagine the applications or something like that. No, you make a good point too about technique. I know you said that a couple of times because, I mean, you can obviously deadlift way more than I did and I launched that kettlebell a lot further than you did. So it's not just about strength. So you're gonna throw anything behind you.

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, truth be told, I mean, any kind of throwing. Yeah, that's very technical. There's a lot of technique and you can be really strong, have bad technique. You're not gonna throw it as far as somebody who's got great technique, who's not as strong.

I really like MAP strong for this, though. I mean, you got the hand cleans in there, you've got the single dumbbell snatch in there, you've got the circus press, you've got the shoulder ring with the sandbags. I mean, all those are gonna, you've got the swings, all those are gonna transfer over into that.

That's a problem. They definitely need to move fast, so I'm glad they added that as another test in their protocol. Our next question is from Rachel from New Jersey. Hey Rachel, how you doing? How can we help you? Hey guys, thank you for having me.

So my question is, I'm a trainer and coach and someone who really wants to create and give content. I've been doing this for seven to eight years almost, but I still lack the confidence, putting the information out there. I know I still have so much to learn, even with everything that I have learned so far. So how have you worked through this throughout your career? And what advice would you give to a newbie coach or even like a seasoned trainer who probably feels the sway as well.

Yeah, you know, first off, don't feel bad. This is so common. I think this is, this is one of more common things I would hear from trainers that work for me. And I would hear it from new trainers, I would hear it from experienced trainers. And I would remind them that the people that you're helping, no way less than you do.

And not only that, but all the advanced health and fitness and wellness information that you may know or that you'll learn, you're not even able to apply to most people. I think one of the reasons why mind pump is done well is because we take a simple concept and we communicate them and we don't go super crazy. Mainly because a lot of that real advanced stuff isn't gonna do anybody much good.

The only people that like that or need that typically are people like you who work in the fitness space. I think this is, I love this question because it's most of my fitness career I was training in developing other trainers and I'd say this is the number one thing that stifles their growth as a trainer is just getting in their own way. And you know, I even remember feeling this a little bit when we first started MindPup even after what 15 plus years of experience that we all had, getting on the YouTube channel and knowing that, you know, potentially thousands or millions of people are going to get criticized. Yeah, they're going to listen to me, they're going to judge me, they're going to hang on everything that I say.

And then I would catch myself talking as if I was trying to impress my peers versus communicating the same way that I've communicated to my clients for 15 years. And it's funny because when you do that and you're super hyper critical of yourself, honestly, it doesn't even do well. So if you're thinking about this

as far as putting content out on Instagram, Facebook, on YouTube, and this is your concern, the irony is that those really high level conversations don't even perform very well on all those platforms. If you wanna reach the masses, you've gotta communicate the same way that you can communicate to your aunt or your uncle or your little brother or older sister, whatever. Like the same way you would communicate at home to those people

and you got to get out of your head and not think about your talking to your peers or I've got this educator that's going to listen to me and they're going to critique what I said, get away from all that. You're trying to help people and if that's your desired outcome and you lead with that, then communicate the same way and you'll be just fine. And stick to the things you feel confident in. Yeah, stick with what you're passionate about. I definitely struggle with this a bit,

trying to change my voice and make it so, like you said, peers and everybody else watching would sort of validate and would back what I was saying, but really, like if you just stick with what you know and what you're passionate about, a lot more people are going to benefit from it. And that's something that just comes with putting it out there with wraps and getting your message out and fine-tuning it over and over again.

And go look at it. If you get a chance, go to our YouTube channel and just look at the top 15 videos or so that perform really well and listen to the way that we're communicating and look at all the hate too by the way. So the our most viral videos, we have the equal amount of hate of people come critics coming on there and say, oh that's not true and trying to argue with us with biomechanics or trying to say that we didn't communicate something well. And that's just our peers and people that are trying to come in there and stir shit up. It's actually helping millions of people that it reached.

So go look at those and just pay attention to the way that's the stuff that we're communicating and it's not very high level. Then we have stuff on that YouTube channel that is really high level. That we've had people come on the channel and they talk, you know, 10 levels above the average person and it doesn't perform well because the average person hears that it goes right at the top of their head. And think of yourself as a curator right you're you're there to direct people to other people that specialize in those areas and People really appreciate that if you if you can kind of introduce them to other people

They would have otherwise never found. Yeah Rachel. What are the what are the number one goal? What's the number one goal you get with With your clients is it is it fat loss or weight loss? I've experienced. Definitely change in body composition. I think overall just switching the mindset from this all or nothing mentality to a more abundant mindset. That's definitely something that I've helped them do. Simplifying their workouts, I think most of my clients come to me because they find simplicity and ease

when it comes to training and working out, as opposed to feeling overwhelmed and burnt out and all of that too. So I try to really just simplify it for everyone. Yeah, now that's spoken like somebody who's been training people for over five years. You actually sound a lot like you know what you're talking about. That's what I would have to teach trainers.

I mean, let's say you have a client who wants to lose weight and you have two trainers. One trainer explains the intricacies of the metabolism, talks about ketosis, if they cut out their carbs, talks about the crebs cycle. And then the other trainer helps with their behaviors and helps them deal with bad relationship with food and maybe says something to them like, hey, let's try drinking some more water and let's start with

that. Which trainer do you think would be more successful? Now I think the answer is pretty obvious. So think of it that way. Your desired outcome is to get people to improve their relationship to exercise, maybe develop one that's lifelong, eat better. All that complicated stuff, it's great. I love learning it.

I mean, especially me, it's one of my favorite things to read about. But I mean, how often do I communicate that to clients? Almost never. There's almost zero value. It doesn't help them at all. The people that like to hear that kind of stuff is people like us, people who work in the field. So, simple is better and communicate in ways that are effective

and that usually means simple and direct, not complex or way out there. No, that definitely helps. I think the more season I'm getting, the further away I am from where I initially started and that, you know, that was the basics. It was so simple when I didn't know anything. Yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, that was the basics. It was so simple when I didn't know anything. Yeah, you know, it's, it's, yeah, I forgot.

Yeah, that, that changes. Yeah, I forgot the name. There's a, there's a, there's an actual term for it where it's like, when you first start, you think you know everything, then the more you learn, you go through this period of like, like, done bars like, oh, yeah, I think so. I think it's like a Kruger done it. It's like, there it is.

Something, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And again, you are 100% normal. This is so common among trainers. Stick to what you know. Keep it simple. I mean, it's even common with us. I mean, that's why I wanted to do it.

Mid that with the YouTube channel. Like, I mean, we've been doing this for a long time. And it's hard not to feel that pressure, especially when you're putting content out on the web, right? So, but I mean, we constantly offer or reminding ourselves, we can't allow the few trolls that are gonna come on there and try and critique the way I pronounce something

or the way I describe something. Like, who cares? It's really about the people that you're helping. You gotta learn to just kind of ignore that and stick to the things that you love talking about, you're passionate about, and you know how many people you've helped with that. So forget the few of our peers that are gonna come on there,

they're gonna hate on you. Don't pay attention to that, continue to put out content that you know that has helped people. Now Rachel, are you using any of our programs to help your clients like maybe Maps Prime or Prime Pro? Yes, I have them all. I use them myself because I don't like to program for myself either.

Yeah, Prime and Prime pro, I've definitely incorporated so much more mobility into my own clients' programs. And like, Annabelle, it is honestly where I start a majority of them just because that's building the foundation there. So they've definitely come in handy throughout my career. Awesome, Rachel. Yeah, I mean, with Justin said about being a curator, that's 100%. Use as many resources, trusted resources as possible. And when you become the go-to person, when your clients know they can come to you,

ask you a question, and you'll either A, know the answer, or more likely know where they can find the answer. Now you've provided tremendous value, so great job. No, that was awesome. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Guy, that's so common with trainer. Number one thing. It was awesome. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Guy, that's so common with trainer.

Number one thing. It was totally. The heart, here's where it really starts to translate. It's the trainer feels that way. And then they're afraid to ask for money from clients to hire them. And it was, and it was like this hurdle that I would have to help people get through because I can't have them pay me. I don't know everything.

It's an insecurity. Yeah, like nobody knows everything. Well, I think it's been. It's an insecurity. I know it, it knows everything. Well, I think it's exaggerated now too, because this is now the new model, right? It used to be just, you know, 10 years ago, people weren't talking about creating. Now everyone was in a content creator, right? You know, you were a good trainer.

You learned what you needed to do to help people. You were good one on one in person. We're now the businesses involved that you have to be able to put stuff out on social media platforms and present your information and that's there's a lot I felt that I mean 15 plus years into this and we hit the first I still hate you to I still don't let still Uncomfortable for me to look at a camera pretend like I'm talking to a million people and there's no one there that I'm talking to

That's still a there and then also know that I'm gonna get Thousands of trolls that are going to see this at one point, and a lot of my peers that are gonna hang on every word that I say and look for all the holes to try and poke holes in my whatever point I'm trying to make. And so I get it, man. This is even someone who experienced, I know how I also got out of that,

which is Fletto's people. Stop worrying about those people that are gonna come on there and hate that. It's so tough, because it's easy to compare yourself to all these other channels and all these other people doing things that you feel like. You're wanting to evolve and do and replicate that, but really it's about finding your own voice

and finding what is sticking with your audience and who your audience is. So that's what you really need to focus on. Our next color is Garrett from Nebraska. Hey Garrett, how can we help you? Hey guys, so my question is, so my wife and I currently work out together in the mornings and we've kind of, we're running split right now and we've ran aesthetic in the past. But what we've kind of come up with a problem is once we start hitting some of those higher

web schemes, we kind of start seeing plateaus, and so I've kind of been wondering is once we start seeing and hitting some of those plateaus, should we just kind of take a break and come back to it, like where we left off in the program, or should we kind of switch up programs entirely, or where should we go from there, I guess, to kind of stay on track with the programs. Okay, so that's a really good question, but I need to ask you a few more questions before I can answer that. So how do you feel physically in that third phase

of maps split? Because maybe for the listeners who don't know, right, maps split are kind of bodybuilder split maps program. And phase three incorporates higher reps. There's super sets in there. The intensity is pretty high. So for you, Garrett, how are you guys feeling in the third phase at phase physically? Usually pretty good, probably three to four days out of the week.

After that, we both get a little bit of gas, and you just see the frustration between us both when we're not hitting some of the weights that we've hit in the past weeks. Are you noticing any changes in energy and sleep, any extra soreness? Not so soreness? Not so soreness, but sometimes it is waking up and all seems to be dreading what comes from the workouts almost. Okay, so here's a deal. So Mapsplit is one of our more advanced workout programs, and the third phase is a lot of volume.

And what it sounds to me like, and by the way, I have to modify split in the third phase for myself. It's just a lot. It's a lot of reps. It's their supersets. The volume is so high. It's six days a week. And what you're experiencing is burnout.

And one of the characteristics of burnout is loss of motivation. You start to, it's hard to wake it up. It's hard to get through the workout. You start to dread doing the next one. So there's a couple of things you could do here. Now you can do what you suggested, which would be to kind of ignore that phase

and move into another one. But I think there's a lot of value in the higher reps and the supersets for a lot of people. I think what you need to do is reduce the volume. In fact, that would cut the volume in half, go through the third phase and then see how you feel, because what you're describing sounds like classic overtraining. I also, you know what happens to me in the situation, too,

is the psychological piece is tough. Like, if you've been going through phase one and phase two, I mean, those are more strength-based, right? So you're feeling really strong, ecological pieces is tough. Like, if you've been going through phase one and phase two, I mean, those are more strength based, right? So you're feeling really strong, especially if you fall in the program to a tee, week over week, you feel like you're getting stronger, you're stronger, they don't send you hit phase three,

and the opposite happens. Because also in your super setting, the volume goes up significantly, you have higher reps. Now listen, I see all my weights go down. I'm benching less, I'm squatting less, I'm dead, everything's less, less, less, less. And it used to just, it would mind fucked me all the time. Where I'm like, I wanna get out of this

because I feel weaker right now going through this but like, Sal's alluding to, I think, the higher rep, there's a lot of value of training that way. I just have to constantly be kind of coaching and talking to myself, like, it's okay, Adam, that you're doing the 50s now. It's okay that you're deadlifting half the way here because the desired outcome isn't,

can I continue to progress my weights in this phase? It's that my body needs this because I've been training in more of a strength phase. I'm gonna benefit from it as far as changing body composition. So I wanna stick through it, can't wait to get back to that phase one where I'm lifting strong again, but I know that's something that I've always got to talk to myself when I hit these phases.

Yeah, it is a bit of a record skip. It's totally a shock and change to the previous phases. So yeah, to Adam's point, that's something that you've got to account for that too. Your strength may feel different because it's a completely different adaptation we're trying to acquire with this. So definitely think about reducing volume, but also think about it's a completely different adaptation we're trying to acquire with this. And so definitely think about reducing volume but also think about, it's a different mindset completely going into that.

I try and think pump, right? So when I get into those third phases, of almost all of our programs, right? Most all the programs, high-perture fee, the pump is where we're kind of going in that third phase. That I stop thinking about how much weight I'm moving and I'm thinking about, oh man, how much of my pump and that muscle up is it feels

like my skin's super tight and I can really feel that muscle working. I'm thinking form, connection, pump, and I'm trying not to focus on, oh my God, I'm so much weaker right now, or I feel like I'm much weaker than what I was just two, three weeks ago. Yeah, but ultimately, our programs are written for the masses.

And ideally, what someone would do is follow the program and then start to modify it by listening to their body. There's no program I could write for the masses that's going to be perfect for every individual. It's just impossible. And I know this as a trainer. And based off what you're telling me, it just sounds like it's too much. And that's super common with MAPSplit. So here's my suggestion, cut the volume in half.

Try half the volume, and then see how you start to feel. You may just notice that your body starts to... Now when you tell them to cut half the volume, are you, because there's a lot of ways you can cut half the volume, are saying reduce the weight significantly, are you saying reduce the sets, or the amount of exercises?

Where would you tell? I would cut the sets in half. Yeah, so if an exercise is four sets, or maybe just drop one set of everything off. Or one set of everything off, right? So look at your total sets, cut everything in half, and start there. Because if you start to feel fatigue,

if you start to lose the pump, it still happens to me when I pushed you hard, is I don't even get the pump anymore, and I just find like it's like I'm doing cardio. Then I'll cut the, in fact, that just recently just, I just recently cut my volume way down and now my body's responding excellent again. So give that a shot and then see what happens. And if that works out great, wonderful.

If it still doesn't work out great, then I would look at maybe reducing the intensity a little bit. If that doesn't work out great, then you can definitely do what you suggested. But I always caution people to, when they want to avoid those higher rep sets, because they have value, they really do. A few weeks of that in a phase, even for just pure strength athletes has a lot of value.

Okay, awesome, yes, I will definitely give that a try. All right, thanks. Thank you, Garrett. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, this is, that's one that, you know, it's hard to be certain like what he's going through. But I know that, and I, I think Sal, you bring up a good point like you definitely

could be overtraining. But if this is a repeat thing that happens, he said it happened in aesthetic, it happened in split. When you get somebody who loves strength training and lifting in that low rep range, it's what you hate doing the opposite. Yes. Both you fuckers are guilty of this.

I admit it. It's funny that you didn't go that direction because to me, that's what I see most of time is that you fall in love with away training. You fall in love with the strength gains and you're just not going to see strength gains in hypertrophy phase. You're going to go the opposite direction. It's inevitable that's going to happen. And the psychological piece is one of the toughest things for people to keep pushing through

those phases because they're like, man, a lot of times it's exactly what you need. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. That's my point. Just like you guys, I know that if you hired me, the first phase I'm putting you in is high reps because I know what you gravitate towards in training, so I know what would benefit you the most. No, that's totally true, but we have to understand.

You gotta consider this, like the high reps, that's a lot more volume. No, you're right. I mean, I could do five sets of three reps. But he said it happened to him in aesthetic also. And aesthetic is not a... Phase three is also high rep high volume. It is, it is, but not nearly as much as split. It's because splits a six day a week program

where aesthetic is only a three day a week program. So maybe it's got, it has a lot of volume in those three foundational days, but then your focus days are really light. So, I mean, what it screams to me is that every time you get to that 15 rep range, super setting, lower rest periods, you just, you don't like it. Yeah, and you're kind of gassed and it's discouraging

because you see yourself, you think you're getting weaker. You don't know that you're not getting weaker. All you see is like, oh, last week or last week when we were in phase two, I was benching 225. Now I have to put 150 on that. Well, I mean, all of it points to getting your muscles to grow, all of it points to improving your physique. In fact, a study just came out that showed that people who trained with the strength phase and an hypertrophy phase, so a low rep

and a medium rep or moderate rep phase did better than people who just stuck to the moderate reps the whole time and everything else was controlled. So changing into these different rep ranges, it's a different mindset, it's a different feel, but they all provide tremendous value. So it's important to go through all of them. Next color is Hannah from Wisconsin. Hi Hannah, how can we help you? Hi guys, so I'm currently 28 weeks pregnant and just thinking about after I have the baby reintroducing exercise and continuing to strengthen the pelvic floor.

Okay, so congratulations by the way, since you're first. Yep, thank you. Yeah, awesome, congratulations. Okay, training right now. Yeah, I'm currently on a pretty consistent exercise plan. Are you following a maps program or you following something else? Not really right now. I've done map, Santa, but then I started doing more like body weight and lighter weight exercises.

Some stuff that I learned from map, Santa, and a ball. but not super specific to that. OK, that's good. If you don't do have maps starter, because if you don't, I think that would be a perfect program to do now, and then postpartum as well. Do you have that? No, I don't.

OK, well, you do now, so Doug's going to send that over to you. OK, so a couple of things about about or a few things to talk about With your question. So number one A lot of the pelvic floor muscle issues that happen or damage that happens often times has to do with the child birth process the delivery process itself. So if you haven't already, I would look into how to give birth while, you know, relaxing the muscles of the pelvic floor and allowing the baby to come out oftentimes. And I learned this recently through taking classes with my wife. A lot of times when women are tight and tense and they're told to push, this

is where some of the damage in those muscles happens. So that's very important. It's very important to avoid damaging that area or those muscles during the child delivery process. So that's number one. Now number two, number two postpartum. And by the way, a lot of the best resources in my experience are from the natural childbirth resources. So look at dual laws and midwives that do natural childbirth.

You're doing that that way necessarily, but their experts at successful deliveries that result in the minimal types of injuries. So I would look at those resources. But now postpartum, you wanna practice, as soon as you get clearance, you would do wanna practice strengthening the muscles that it's very similar to stopping urine flow. It's called a kegol, so I'm sure you've heard of these before.

But you can practice these throughout the day and hold and squeeze those muscles. That's a very basic, simple exercise. And then other exercises know, other exercises you're probably already familiar with, like squats, actually help strengthen the pelvic floor, especially when you're controlling those muscles as you get to the bottom of a squat.

You could try exercises like a bird dog, that's another exercise that you could do for the pelvic floor. The key is obviously how strong are you going into childbirth? How the childbirth happens? And then are you able to do exercises postpartum? So I love map starter here

because it does cover most of these exercises that I was having Katrina doing. But I did have a few things that I did that were kind of like custom to what I wanted her to do, right? So I had her do walking lunges and when she do walking lunges, I'd have her like stabilize on one leg every time. So she'd be what she'd lunge, balance, lunge, balance, and when she'd balance, I'd actually ask her to to tuck her tailbone So engage your glutes and tuck her tailbone same movement as you would do if you were doing like a floor bridge. So a walking lunge with just her body weight

with that movement and the focus and control is on the stability portion and then being able to kind of squeeze her glutes and tuck or tailbone. So that was an exercise that I added that isn't into the routine where I modified, I should say. Another thing that I had her do that, I thought she got a lot of benefit from is a Turkish

get up. And we started with just her body weight at first. I didn't need her to load it. I just wanted her to perform the mechanics of that exercise at each portion of it's basically broken up in eight steps, her really emphasized each step and control her body through. And then we slowly started to load it. And then the other thing was like her floor bridges. I think floor bridges and I did a video on YouTube

a long time ago, but you could look it up. And I think it has to do, I forget the name of the video, Doug, you know what one it was? It was the glued activation or it's one of our top videos. But you see me teach a proper floor bridge. I think the mistake that a lot of people make when they make the floor bridge is they don't activate their core before they go up into it. And so I think that portion of the floor bridge is so important even though it's such a small

movement. So you're taking it home first. Yeah, I teach you to press your back against the ground first, activate the glutes and then come up into the bridge. That's all strengthening those pelvic floor muscles. I added those to her routine and then I would say those exercises in with starter, I think it's a great one. And to Adam's point too with how he added that balance element with the lunges, you can

also do with the floor bridges by just coming up with one leg. And really too with the bird dogs, the same thing. This is all anti-rotation. So we're trying to make sure that we regain that stability and that control there in the hips. So anytime it feels like it's about to turn on you, you're correcting that and you're stabilizing the entire pelvic girdle. Okay.

Yeah, that's very helpful. So start maps, start now, and then just resume that once I'm cleared for exercise. Yes. Yes, exactly. Well, thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for calling in Hannah. Excellent. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, it's what you do before and during pregnancy is so important. You know, so much focus is placed on what you do after that. The setup is oftentimes ignored, I think. Well, we also didn't mention something to that, I think, because you talked about like the importance of all this beforehand, right, so you don't tear anything when you go into actual pregnancy. I think the other challenge is if you already have a poor connection to

your pelvic fore muscles, because you don't train them and you don't strengthen them, right, you don't work on that connection. And then you take the drugs when you're in pregnancy because it's extremely painful and hard to get through in the first place, then it numbs that area even more. So talk about making it even harder to connect to that. That's why it's even more important for this drink. You have a very good connection to that area. So if you end up having to use any drugs in this case and your numb, you still have the ability to connect there because you've practiced it so much where if you take a mother who hasn't been training, hasn't focused on the pelvic floor at all,

then she goes into pregnancy and she takes the drugs because it's really, really rough, then it's really tough to ask her to be able to connect to those muscles. It's impossible. Yeah, it's totally impossible. And again, I learned this while Jessica was pregnant. When you're tense or tight, you naturally tighten up those muscles and telling mom to push while she's maybe unconsciously, not willingly, but just doing it because she's scared or she's told to push or whatever, tightening those muscles, you are pushing through these muscles that are contracting and tight,

you are going to cause problems. And so there's a lot of skill and technique that's involved in learning how to relax while you push. And this makes a huge difference. Look, mine pump is recorded on video as well as audio, confindus on YouTube, mine pump podcast. You can also find all of us on social media, you can find us on Instagram.

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