Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1484: Listener Live Coaching (Q&A)

Episode Date: February 6, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. Why Sal has changed his mind on compression pants. (4:46) The guys speculate on the future of VR technology. (6:42) The benefits of the ChiliPad. (14:38) The characteristics of serial killers. (16:18) Good luck trying to predict when a bubble will pop. (19:00) How diets can affect respiratory diseases. (26:58) San Francisco is implementing a silly use of public resources. (30:10) The guy’s address the controversy surrounding the latest episode with Bishop Robert Barron. (34:08) Who likes pineapple on pizza? (41:25) RIP Dustin Diamond. (42:17) Updates on the Mind Pump journey to get jacked! (44:25) The natural disaster Mind Pump is most afraid of. (50:30) #Quah question #1 – What are your thoughts on natural interventions versus synthetic hormones to treat hypothyroidism? (55:33) #Quah question #2 – If I have goals for strength progression and aesthetics, is it better to focus on one at a time or tackle simultaneously? (1:04:11) #Quah question #3 – What are some tips to improve shoulder mobility? (1:11:32) #Quah question #4 – Can the supination of the feet be corrected and what kind of priming would help with that? (1:19:33) Related Links/Products Mentioned February Promotion: Phase II Bundle Apple's VR headset could be the road to glasses: The latest rumors and reports Elon Musk says he's tested his brain microchip on monkeys, and it enabled one to control a computer with its mind Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! What are some of the top heated mattress pads? Watch Crazy, Not Insane | Prime Video Ketogenic diet activates protective γδ T cell responses against influenza virus infection Mind Pump #1475: Eating Meat Is Good For The Climate With Robb Wolf San Francisco school board votes to rename 44 schools, including Abraham Lincoln and George Washington High Schools Mind Pump #1480: How To Find Peace & Meaning Amid Chaos With Bishop Robert Barron Bishop Barron on Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris - Word on Fire The History of Hawaiian Pizza - Food Network ‘Saved by the Bell’ Actor Dustin Diamond Remembered by Co-Stars as ‘True Comedic Genius’ Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Hypothyroidism | American Thyroid Association How Phasing Your Workouts Leads to Consistent Plateau Free Workouts – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Aesthetic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System 3 Turkish Get-Up Variations - Tutorial with Kettlebell Master of Sport – Mind Pump TV Kettlebell Kings Presents: Overhead Loaded Carry - Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics Add Windmills to Your Workout to Increase Your Deadlift Strength Improve Your Shoulder Press with Shoulder Dislocates MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump TV - YouTube MAPS Prime Pro Webinar @mindpumpadam Tippy toe squats video Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram Bishop Robert Barron (@bishopbarron)  Instagram Sam Harris (@samharrisorg)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now, in today's episode, we answered live questions from listeners and viewers. They called in, we actually got to coach them over the phone or over Zoom, so you get to listen to that part of the episode at about 41 minutes.

So the first 41 minutes was our intro portion, where we talk about current events, studies, we mentioned our sponsors. Let me give you a rundown of today's podcast episode. We started out by talking about tights for lifting. That's right, you can wear tights while you lift weights. Apparently it's got performance enhancing benefits. They don't just feel good to wear them, right Justin?

Yeah, they have some other purpose apparently. Yeah, then we talk about Apple VR glasses coming out. They're gonna be really expensive. They might be pretty awesome. Who knows, might change the world. Then we talked about how medical news today talked about one of our sponsors and one of their articles, that chili pad and uler.

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That's CHILI, technology.com, forward slash. MindPump and get an exclusive offer for MindPump listeners only. There's a discount code on that page, by the way, when you pull it up. Then we talk about the characteristics of serial killers. One of them is kind of weird. Then we talk about the stock market and real estate asset inflation, some speculation there. We talked about the keto diet and influenza or other respiratory diseases. Really interesting

study done on mice. We talked about how San Francisco is changing the name of 44 of their schools, because you know, it's the best way to spend their money. That's just what's happening. Then we talked about Bishop Baron. Recently, I interviewed Bishop Baron. We got some comments on it. And so we talked about all that and the evolution of ideas.

We talked about who invented the most disgusting food of all time, Hawaiian pizza. What's wrong with your people? We talked about how one of our heroes, when we were kids, just died recently from his battle with cancer, Screech. So, rest in peace then. Shout out Screech.

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at mapsfebuary.com. That's the word maps, M-A-P-S-F-E-B-R-U-A-R-Y.com. Adam, what? I gotta give you credit, dude. a PS FEB are you a RY dot com? Adam what? I gotta give you credit dude. Oh, whoa wait a second. Hold on. Hold on, this is a trick for sure. So I'm coming right behind it.

I've been stealing my credit for the last four years. What? You know what? This is why I don't compliment you. I'm not gonna talk to you just like it's right away. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, talk to you just like, that's right. No, I forgot. Tell me, I forgot. It's really weird, tell me, tell me. No, you know what, you, I made fun of you early on.

Oh God. You never do that. About wearing tights on your legs. Oh, for leg workouts. Yeah. You did. Well, it compression pants. Compression pants.

I still need the funniest. Don't say that. Just to still on the face. Yeah, I'm on the face. Yeah. But I used to make funny, oh guys, what do you stupid, whatever. And you're like, oh no, it feels great.

Anyway, I've been doing it now for a while because I read some studies. And they help with recovery, inflammation, performance. And I will say, they definitely do. I don't like working out my legs without wearing them now. Yeah. It's like the pump I get is better. It's your little thunder vest Yeah, that keeps everything I mean it does studies do show it reduces inflammation speeds up recovery blah blah blah But you have to actually wear them for longer than the workout in the studies

So people would train in them and then wear them the rest of the day Or some people warm at night when they go to sleep. I can't do that's a little too tight. Yeah. Well, I got a confess, so I used to wear them for football all the time. So yeah, I mean, we called it a girdle, whatever was basically just like tights

that you'd wear under every, back when you were a cheerleader. Yeah, back when I was on the sidelines. Yeah, I get them boys. You were a bass, right? Not a flyer. No, I'm too handsome for a bass. You better just the sidelines. Yeah, I get them boys. You were a base, right? Not a flyer. No, I'm to your handsome for a base. You bet I'm just a flyer. I was meeting the chairs. He's

coming down. Hey, you guys see that Justin wore baggy sweats. Hey, I like these tights. Those are actually baggy sweats, Justin. We're talking about. That's not supposed to be tight. Did you guys see Apple is getting ready to release their VR glasses? Oh, yeah, these things are supposed to run like six to ten thousand dollars. What's the difference? What's their pitch in terms of that versus Oculus or the I don't know. I don't know. So you wear them all the time. No, no, no, no, no, I think you would just wear them for games or whatever you're plugging into. But have you guys been seeing some of the ads that are around VR and stuff coming around that are looking pretty cool?

Six to 10,000 dollars? Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Wow, they better be. Well, they always try to make their product like the escalate of everything, you know? Well, I think, let's be honest, what market do you think's gonna just crush

in the VR department? Poor, dude. Pornography. 100%. So, if you can spend $6 to $10 grand on glasses VR department. Porn, dude. Pornography. 100%. So, if you can spend 6 to 10 grand on glasses, we know what you're doing. We know what you're doing there, Bob. We know exactly what's going on. Yeah, with the VR.

We're on to you. No, I've done a scene VR before, and it gives me vertigo a little bit. Yeah, the closest, I mean, I went to one of those conventions where they were displaying VR and they were trying to include some fitness and stuff is interesting, but the one that I tried, I was on this gyro sort of contraption. So I had to like lean on top of it in a prone position. And then I started moving, like,

I would just make these slight movements. And I was flying on some glider and I started to get a little bit like sick. It was trippy. It does, it gives you vertical. Yeah. When you're looking around, you get really immersed in it.

That's what I mean. Your brain has a trouble, like I guess figuring out if you're actually really doing that. So aside from your porn prediction, where do you see this, like where do you see it first, like really blowing up?

Besides that, okay. In all of the games. Video games, video games. Yeah. I think video games, okay now aside from that, cause those are obviously right. Yeah, it's obvious. Do you guys think VR glasses would be good for virtual meetings?

So, you know how like right now everybody does Zoom. So you're gonna do a meeting or we do an interview and we're using Zoom. Do you think VR glasses would be good for that? We're now I can look to my left, there's, I mean I think you're just do a meeting or we do an interview and we're using Zoom. Do you think VR glasses would be good for that? We're now I can look to my left. There's Adam, so it's just in for our company. It would be great, because then I know you two assholes wouldn't be on your phone when we're in a meeting.

Yeah, you have these goggles on your face. I'm gonna start taking a picture of this guy. He's always on his phone, like talking shit. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, no, like so I also think it could be for educational purposes. So maybe you're sort of immersed in, in like some history class, like you're going through and like looking at stuff. I don't know.

Didn't they do something creative? Didn't they do something with sporting events where you put them on and you're sitting like, you know, quart side? Yeah, I think Oculus was one that did that right. So they have the NBA courtship, but you know what? I, I haven't heard a lot about it. Like I haven't heard anybody talking about it. I like I haven't heard anybody talking about it. So I don't know how good it is. I don't know if it panned out the way they were,

they were, they thought, so the NBA right now has a view that I hate when they, a camera that they cut to. And I think it is that court side view. And when you're in person, I don't know, maybe it's just different when you're in person and you're sitting there, that's awesome. But when you're, when you're in person, I don't know, maybe it's just different when you're in person and you're sitting there, that's awesome. But when you're watching on TV, I kind of like the bird's eye view, and I don't know

the technical name of the angle or the view that they shoot most of the game from, because you can see the whole court. I can see the play developing, I can see the ball moving on the other side. When they drop it down to this view, as if you were someone sitting on the sideline and watching the game, it sucks, because there's's on the opposite side going on, you miss it. It's limited. Yeah, it's very limited. So, I don't know, I'm not a fan of that.

Well, however good VR glasses are going to get, I would assume that Elon Musk's neural link is going to blow it out of the water on that becomes a thing. Did you guys see that they have a monkey? Where are they with that? Okay, I was just going gonna tell you, right? So, they have a monkey playing video games right now with a neural link. So, they've hooked up a monkey's brain to neural link

and he's now, the monkey is now operating a video game. What? Yeah, through thought. So, that's where they're at with that. So, when they do studies like that, I always wonder like, how accurate is this? Is it like, because they, didn't they do a thing where were monkeys picked stocks and he did better

So is it like really is he critically thinking to pick the stocks or he just randomly Picking the chance and is the game like is he like no, I think if I play with a button pusher, you know, I feel like you would be a button pusher We play game. Yeah. No. It's like smash it with the fist push all the buttons You can sometimes you win. No, no, no, no, half circle a b select start which all the buttons are fast, you can sometimes you win. No, no, no, no, no, no, half circle, A, B, select start. I'm kidding, I didn't tend to. Okay, okay. So anyway, no, I think what it is is that there's a particular

game or series of movements that the monkey would have to do for them to realize that it's intentional, not random, and they're able to show that. You know, it's funny about this. This is what cracks me out, right? People are like, they're spying on me through my app, you know, and then Elon's like, I'm gonna put something in your brain, they're like, I'll buy that. Yeah, that sounds better.

That always trips me out. Yeah, it's weird, because I know they've been working a lot on neural feedback, and so just based off of tracking of your eyes and everything else and sort of predicting like where you want to go, they've developed games and things around that, but now that's like obviously a whole other level. Have you seen the studies, this is the creepy stuff, right? Have you seen the studies where they're able to hook someone up to some kind of measurement device? I don't know exactly what they're using.

It fits an FMRI machine or something else. And the person thinks of a picture or a face. And the computer is able to pixelize what the person is thinking of. So like if I'm thinking of your face, and the computer is able to pixelize what the person is thinking of. So like if I'm thinking of your face, then without telling anybody, the computer can show what I'm visualizing, or they're able to pick up what people are dreaming,

or they say the technology exists to where. I just realized, magicians are gonna go out of business. What, what, what, what? Dude, people are gonna, no, they're gonna, no, you're thinking know you're thinking. No, everything. I knew that bird came back.

Yeah, you know all your tricks. Yeah, I just saw that. No, but how weird would that be if you're, like you go to the airport, you know, instead of putting your bags through the thing or whatever, like put your head in this machine real quick. So that's what I like to speculate on the things

that you think might happen because of it. Like what industry is gonna pop up because of something like VR? What's gonna change and be so different that we don't have today? What was that black mirror episode where they recorded everything that they saw, and so the husband and wife got an arm. Oh yeah. They got a wine back in the year too.

Yeah, and they're like Zoom super zoom in, or he could rewind and go back and replay. That's like if you could read someone's mind, imagine having a conversation with your spouse. Yeah, honey, it's something wrong. No, no, I'm fine. And you're like, oh, you're irritated because I chew loudly. That's weird. You know what I mean?

Well, yesterday when we stopped by Best Buy on the Way Up, and Eli went in with Doug and we picked up those DGI drones. And I really think that we're not far from, because these things already have tracking and autopilot and it's like literally, I don't know, maybe a year or two away from this, where you can, these things will just, you can have them hover above you

and just track you all day long. And so that's kinda like that, right? Where you could have, and you sounds ridiculous, like who would wanna record their daily? Well, you already have fucking kids doing this right now on Instagram, like that's a doing this all on YouTube, right? Like documenting their days every single day. Like it'd be so much easier to just have this thing that automatically

whoops, whoops, whoops, you pop up, it hovers and kind of follows you around. And then you decide of that content, what you want to put out to, you know, the public and everybody else, but for personal use, you'll have a log of every single day of your life. We've seen influencers in the wild, so we know that's not going away. Yeah, like nobody's checking these people. So now they got drones, it's just gonna get ridiculous.

Yeah, everyone's so important, you know. Yeah, watch my movie. Yeah, you wanna watch, look what I did today. You know what, you know what, you would happen on Thursday. This was cool, look, I threw the paper in the garbage the far away. I went right in. So crazy. It's a hovering on in the bathroom.

And I put it up on my page on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so real authentic. It's authentic. Maybe I'm just not there yet for that technology. You know what technology is cool right now that I'm excited about.

We just got our rulers in, right? Chili technologies where it's at. The fact that you can troll your wife's climate and yours simultaneous in the best. And this is the granddaddy. This is the one on both sides. Fuck VR. Well, this is where it's at. Hey, did you see medical news today? It's a site that I'll follow sometimes. They listed the chili pad and uler as some of the best, you know, mattress cooler or heater

products around. So they did a big evaluation. And is it because it's not using any like EMS? Right, it's all water is out. I think it was because of the range of temperatures, how you can control it from your app, the fact that it's water cooled, and then the feature that I think is the most valuable, I know a lot of people are, I don't know,

people are actually using this, but I find this extremely valuable. I said it so that, because here's what happens to wake you don't know, people are actually using this, but I find this extremely valuable. I set it so that, because here's what happens to wake you up. Yeah, if you're in bed and let's say it's set at 60 degrees, I need to do that. Dude, try it. I know you've been saying that for a while

with your alarm clock thing and I just have a pulse. It's like you're simulating nature. So you're in bed and you wanna wake up at seven, set it so that it starts to warm up. You can six, 30. Like six, 30, six, 45. And here's what happens half the time, half the time, you just wake up at seven, set it so that it starts to warm up. You can six, 30. Like six, 36, 45. And here's what happens half the time. Half the time you just wake up.

Yeah, well, I feel like I'm whatever. Just don't do lukewarm or do pier pants. That's not my outfit. I don't know. Just like, I tried this. This all over my life. It happens to people, I swear. It's backfire.

You know, one of you were bedwaters. Did you guys ever do that when you were kids? No. I mean, you know there's a jab in awkwardity. I said yes. I know. You know that they can, there's a jab in awkward if I said yes yeah I know You know that they connect they there's a genetic component to that you know that they yeah they can there's they found some genes that are connected to bed wedding well what I know right why for it's also connected to

serial killers really yeah what I'm sure they're good with you guys in your conspiracy theory it's not a conspiracy this is is just something that I did. They associate like, you like brought some characteristics. And you've like right away just a new head. Oh yeah, well it was about Lyme disease. Lyme disease. Oh yeah, yeah. Well it's just because of speculation

because it was all like an East Coast disease initially and there was this island. Blue myelin? Yeah, blue myelin, who, plum myelin, blue myelin, I don't know. But yeah, there was lots of bio medical experiments there.

And so like people speculate that it might have started there on an animal and then, you know, transferred over to a tick and then it spread out from there. There it is, how did you find it? I did, so there's three things that are linked to these serial colors. Let me guess, hold on, killing animals. Yes. Wading killing animals. Yes.

Yes. Waiting the bed. Yes. And being male. Maybe. Well, probably a bit. I'm a session with fire setting. Yes, pyro.

Oh, yeah, that was the other one. Wow. That's true. That's crazy, because I love. That's the wedding. I used to love bathing things on fire, but I didn't do the other stuff. I know.

It's strange. Yeah. I guess you have to have the trifecta. Does it say, try add? Does it say why, Doug? Does it say why? I mean, obviously the pyro thing to me and killing small animals is very obvious to me. Hilling animals, it seems obvious to me.

Right. If you caught your kid like torturing an animal, you'd have to have a meeting with your wife real quick and be like, all right, like what are we gonna do? This is gonna kill people. This is a problem. Maybe we need to ground them. Yeah, how many parents do you think that knew that ahead of time?

Do you think the parents of serial killers knew? Bro, when you, when I watched that dog, you know your children so well, right? You guys feel like you could tell if like bad behavior. He's an odd bird. Yeah, no, I feel like, and I watched that documentary. Remember that documentary I told you guys about where that woman, she came up with a multiple personality thing, whatever.

She studied a lot of these killers, okay. It's a combination of genetics and very strong, severe environmental factors. So like they had terrible abuses children, terrible parents. So I think, you know, asking a serial killer's parents like, hey, do you ever think that beating your kids and abusing them or whatever, whatever make them a serial killer? You see what I'm saying? I don't think it's pretty rare to happen

in a kid who grows up in a well-adjusted, happy home. Even what's his name? Who was the serial killer at the time? Everybody's like, oh, he's so handsome, he seems so normal. Jeffrey Dahmer? No, was it Dahmer or Bundy? Ted Bundy. Ted Bund or Bundy? Ted Bundy. So the story was that Ted Bundy had a normal childhood, not true, not true. He had an abusive childhood growing up and so they think

that's some of the reasons why he did his thing. You guys are you guys watching stocks right now? I mean, with everything going on with the game stops, yeah, and everything else going on, are you, what's your family saying? I want to know, because they're all tied into this stuff. Oh, they think they're just like, man, this is inflated. Everything's inflated. Now they're starting to finally say that it's doing that.

Really? Yeah. So, I mean, what can we ask, what they're doing with their money? That's what they do for a living. Are they starting to protect themselves? How are they pulling some money out? Are they gonna leave it in? I think the classic things that you do, you hedge with things that tend to do well

when stocks do bad. So like gold, Bitcoin now, people are doing Bitcoin. Maybe stocks that are really well established that pay dividends, stuff like that, less speculation. But I mean, trying to predict when a bubble's gonna pop, like good luck, you know. And that's, I think, the challenge is, because you wanna ride the bubble before it pops.

So like, when do you pull out? You know what I mean? How long is it gonna go? And continue. It's so interesting though with this, like, what's going on with Reddit and with, you know, Robinhood and this ability to buy these like partial shares, I just feel like it's open the door for a whole new percentage of the population that didn't really exist. Totally. But for stocks and so it's kind of hard to gauge that right?

Like is it really a bubble or is this more than new norm because now there's a you know millions more people that are buying stocks that would not have been buying stocks just 10 years ago. I think it's a bubble just because the amount of the statistic, this is a real statistic now. 40% of any every dollar ever created in history. So as long as we've had the dollar, okay. 40% of all dollars ever created will create last year. So that, to me, says asset inflation. But yeah, back to what you're saying,

here's what's interesting. Now, because what's happening is these big hedge fund billionaires, they're getting screwed. They're getting squeezed out of their shorts by these Reddit investors or whatever. Is this still happening? Is there other examples? They're trying to go after different things now.

Silver now, right? And it's like, how do you stop them, right? How do you stop them? So now mainstream media saying oh if these reddit You know investors don't stop mess around they could cause one of the biggest stock market crashes of all time like you fuckers You fuckers of course look at say that yeah, well, that's the speculation right that everyone's gonna get nervous about this Which I think is kind of normal to see like it's kind of weird, right? So I think a lot of people start pulling out especially if you've crushed it the last year and a half and stocked. It's like, okay, maybe instead of trying to keep continuing to ride this, maybe I'll just pull out.

What it is is if these big investors pull out. If they say, you know what? I don't want to be in the market right now because these guys are screwing with us. They don't pull out like, you know, $100,000. These guys are pulling out like hundreds of millions, billions of dollars. That could definitely give up. That would shake it up. Yeah, that could, but then hey, everything's on sale when you should buy. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but you know, if you're, and I'm with you on the, because I think it's just, it's mind-boggling to think that we've printed almost half the money this last year. I mean, that's just crazy. So that causes acid inflation. Does it necessarily cause a bubble though?

A bubble is something that is gonna pop and is artificially inflated or because of other reasons that cause it. When you print that much money, I almost feel like, and of course, whatever goes up must come down. I think we will see the flattening out of the real estate market, the stock market, and a dip.

But I don't see a massive crash. I see a new norm. I see a new norm. So, exactly what they said before 2008. That's literally exactly what they said. Yeah, but you're talking about a whole different situation, right? Well, okay, you're right, but the fundamentals are the same. And what I mean by that is bubbles happen when you have malinvestment, right? Well, okay, you're right, but the fundamentals are the same. And what I mean by that is bubbles happen

when you have malinvestment, right? So what is malinvestment? It's taking resources, investing them in places that, especially when you have more resources that are not due to increased production, better efficiency, it's just money. It's not tied to more production. Well, that's your point when you're talking about stocks, right?

Like, what about real estate? Well, real estate then. That's tied to something. That's tied to more production. Well, that's your point when you're talking about stocks, right? Like, what about real estate? Well, real estate then. That's tied to something. That's tied to property. It's tied to land. No, the money to buy it isn't. That's what I'm saying. So what happens is if the fundamentals aren't there,

if the efficiencies and not their productions out there, you just have more money competing for fewer products. And eventually, that malinvestment catches up. It's called a market correction. When that happens, then you start to see kind of that chain of events that starts to happen where you see these corrections, these big corrections. Yeah, my argument to that as far as a malinvestment

with the real estate is how things have changed since 08. Like, I don't know what the percentage is, and I remember reading this in an article somewhere, but it's a lot, most, a majority of all loans that people have been given since 08 are 20% down and you gotta have triple A credit to get into these. We don't have all these garbage loans that we had before.

And then that was back in 08.9. So if you bought your house, okay. Now, if you bought it right now in the rise, maybe, right? But if you bought your house three years. Now, if you buy it right now in the rise, maybe, right? But if you bought your house three years or before that time, you have, you're sitting on, depending on what part of the country you're in, you know, 100, 100. Yes. A lot of equity. And in addition to your 20% you put down. So you've got to keep that in mind that if a bank sees that. And by the way, banks do not want to foreclose on properties. That's a headache for them. They do not, banks do not want to foreclose on properties.

That's a headache for them. They're not in the business of repossessing people's properties. They don't want to deal with that. They don't want to open, they're not in the real estate business and they don't even, they don't want to sell properties. That's their last resort. They want your interest.

They want your interest. They want to just keep you paying. And so they have all this leeway with these people that may be defaulting right now on how to handle that Yeah, but what happens when people every day people are having trouble paying rent What happens when government stay in it step in and say we're gonna have a Memoratorium or whatever you call it. We're halt rent nobody has to pay, but you can't kick them out What happens in that scenario now it starts to become a problem.

Now here's the thing. Yeah, but we haven't seen massive increases in rent. We've anything we've actually seen a decrease or a plateau in that. We're not seeing that. So even though housing prices are inflated, so what we have rates are diminishing, and the rent rates are not going up to max.

So what does that tell you, right? That tells you that people are speculating on the price of property because they have more cash, more money. I mean, what it tells me is what I mean, the way I think about it is that 40% of all money in circulation right now was printed in the last year. Therefore, you have one of two choices.

Either the dollar is gonna be worth a lot less and it's going to start to diminish or crash or massive, yeah, price influxuation, inflation. You see an assets and in goods. So that to me is... That's a good hedge, it is, because also if you have a fixed mortgage and there's inflation, let's say the dollar loses value, but you have a 3% 30 year interest rate.

When inflation happens, fixed debt is wonderful. Now your payments, your $2,000 a month payment or whatever is now, it's like paying $1,000 a month. It's fixed, right? What you don't wanna do is those adjustable loans when inflation hits, because then interest rates, go through the roof. And that's what I think is driving the housing market right now.

I don't think it's like a bubble like we saw before. You mean it's just smart investors. Yeah, I think it's a lot of people who see the writing on the wall may have, may have had, had you know a few hundred thousand or millions parked in Banking's account CDs, you know investment portfolios and they are like wait a second instead of me doing that I'm gonna pull some of that out grab some of these properties right now that are gonna be probably two three X the value in a Decade so well assets are always good when money starts to lose its value because It helps right having cash Well, assets are always good when money starts to lose its value because it helps, right?

Having cash, that's a bet. What a terrible situation to put people in a position where saving is losing. Yeah, like what's that? That's crazy. Yeah, what the hell's going on? It's a punishment for that. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm going to talk a little bit about health here.

Rets of interesting studies on respiratory diseases and diet and how it affects respiratory diseases. It was an interesting study they did on mice and they found that when they put mice on a ketogenic diet, they fared much better with the flu, with influenza. And so now they're looking at keto diets as a potential way to mitigate symptoms of respiratory disease.

I don't know about anything with COVID, but I do find it interesting. And then it made me think like, I wonder if this is an evolutionary thing because the flu has been, I mean, we have, we know for sure the flu's been around for 500 years, but we also know that like,

Hippocrates wrote about a flu-like disease in 400 BC or something like that. So for thousands of years, we've been dealing probably with the flu and it hits in the winter and humans tend to eat how in the winter when not with, you know, modern foods. But, you're not getting any nuts. Yeah, you're gonna be eating more fat,

probably fasting more, more protein, probably less carbohydrates, because less plants grow. So kind of interesting speculation, right? What's your thoughts on it? I mean, what do you think? I, you know, I think it might be, I mean, look, going really low carbohydrate, running off ketones as anti-inflammatory, it might prevent the cytokine storm that they say that COVID caused.

So I think that there's something there, but we need, you know, evidence. And the reason why I was looking this up is because you guys know that I've really cut my carbohydrate intake. And it's crazy. Every time I do it, it's like such a shift that can totally feel. I drop like four, almost five pounds of water in a few days. Right? That's it.

Just three days, five pounds of water off my body from doing something like that. Do you notice a massive decrease in your energy and strength? You know what I did. So you know, when I interviewed Rob Wolf, he talked about sodium. So I'm like, I'm going to give it a shot and really focus on it. Because I don't eat processed food. So I'm like, I'm going to eat a lot more sodium. I'm going to take his element electrolyte.

I'm going to add more salt to things. Make sure I eat like bacon, which I know is naturally high in sodium. And I notice more energy. Yeah. I'm going to start trying that because I wanted to start like cutting down and cutting down on carbohydrates a bit, carbohydrates a bit more aggressively, but I haven't tried to do that. And he made a lot of sense when he brought that up.

So yeah, I'm going to give that a shot. I'm going to give that a shot. I'm going to give that a shot. I'm going to give that a shot. I'm only done it once and I don't like to talk about stuff until I've done it a handful of times. Sure. But so far so good. So I'm having Jessica do the shout. I'm behind you guys. I've only done it once, and I don't like to talk about stuff until I've done it a handful of times. Sure. But so far, so good. So I'm having Jessica do the same thing

because she breastfeeds, and she's noticing that she's more milked. I was most interested in that. I think that was really fascinating. Yeah, so, but I mean, I've also heard, you know, like Carnivore diet advocates, they talk a lot about upping their salt and take and feeling better.

So probably something to it. I don't know, I noticed for myself, like I worked out this morning, we're at altitude, cause we're up in trucky right now. And I still had a decent workout and it was legs. Normally legs would quench your hair. Especially at altitude.

And I felt okay. And I'm very little carbs, maybe 60 grams or less a day for the last four days. By now I would notice like a loss in performance. Hey, Justin, what do you think about the 44 schools in San Francisco, they're gonna be changing their names? You're like, you gotta put this on me, dude. I'm not interested with sauce to stay by my side.

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. I thought I saw your name on one of the petitions. That's why I brought that up. I thought, yeah, that you would. I didn't see that. Yeah, I don't know what they're changing the names too, but I'm seeing a lot of Lincoln in Washington and those founding father names being eliminated

from a lot of schools and a lot of other monuments and things in the country. And I can't say that I support that. I think it's a silly use of public resources. That's what I think. I think you got schools that need help. And they're like, hey everybody, we're gonna help you. We're gonna spend money on changing the thing.

We're focusing on like too much nuanced nonsense. Let's make, okay, we're not even in school yet. Can we open the schools and let the kids be like regular kids again? Can we start there? Before we do all this stuff, give me the update too. What are you guys, what's going on with the kids right now? Private schools, what I know are reopening, public schools are taking a little longer. I know in some areas, the teachers unions are protesting and don't want to be open Might have to do with the fact that they get a paycheck no matter what I don't know just speculation but But yeah, that seems to be happening in some place in the country, but I know here in California

They're trying to start reopening Gavin Newsom the governor had this just remarkable change of mind Just magical. I know you were following his recall how far how far away is he from that lastly saw I was like 200,000 Signatures away from being two million. It's gonna probably be on the ballot Yeah, and then will he get recall that's the big question will he do will some will we vote to recall but it's hopefully Dude he's got people in his party that are like distancing themselves from him, because he's becoming a little bit of a political,

like, you know, kryptonite. Yeah, he's got nothing left to stand on. So I mean, all of his ideas have already, like, come and gone and they've proven themselves to be not so effective. Now, are we in our own little bubble here in that, that just how you guys feel or we feel, and have you met any of those sides? or we feel and have you met anybody? Some of those sides. Are you guys have you met anybody who's a fan of what he's doing?

You know, no, but I know some people like do like they're hoping a lot of these shutdowns and things we're gonna like eliminate You know, COVID and help us to get back to normalcy and all that and I totally understand that But it's just not proving to be affected. So now what do we do? We just destroyed our economy and livelihoods for a lot of people out there for small business. Let me tell you something. Here's the beauty of how, part of the beauty

of how America is organized, right? We have states, states can enact different policies of their own, right? And very different from each other. So we've had a long enough time now to compare states that had strict lockdown to those that had much looser lockdowns or opened up much sooner. In comparative states, like Texas, California,

in some ways you can compare or Florida, very populated, they all have big, you know, populated metropolitan areas. And you look at them now after we've had this for a year, and you can start to see, did it make a big difference? And the data says, no, not very effective. So they were kind of like an ineffective way of helping. What did that news come out?

Did that just come out recently that it's ineffective? This is what we're starting to see now. They're starting to piece things together in a speculative, it's still very political to discuss, because you still have both sides saying? This is what we're starting to see now. They're starting to piece things together and speculate. It's still very political to discuss because you still have both sides saying, oh no, it's right, oh no, it's wrong. But just look at the numbers. You look at the numbers and you can see,

like, it seems like it didn't make a big difference. The problem is we don't know what would happen had we not done it or had other places done it. You know what I'm saying? So you can just compare state to state And see what with that kind of looks like speaking of you know kind of stuff. That's a little controversial the bishop Aaron episode went up lots of amazing Feedback always great episode great episode. I always find it interesting though how Episodes on spirituality can sometimes trigger people which I find a little fascinating because it's like people are so ready to just

Coming you know what though. I don't I disagree with that I don't I don't get that sense I get it when you bring someone like Bishop Aaron who is talking about Christianity I don't feel like I got that from Paul checks. I don't feel like I got that from Aubrey Marcus I don't feel like we got that from Don DePondy Sanjay Ra Rawhal. Yeah, I mean, all talked about spirituality, all have different philosophies and ideologies or bad guys or shamanic practices or whatever. Yeah, I'll ask a shit. Like, I mean, you're talking about all these different,

these different people that talk about spiritual patches that are very, very different. I don't recall us getting any of that. No, I don't remember getting anything from, maybe some from Paul Chek, because Paul Chek goes pretty hard. I do recall some stuff from him, but I do find that it's interesting that when someone like Bishop Beren who comes on there, which by the way, I'm not Catholic or anything, but it's funny when you see that. Yeah, because it's politically incorrect to criticize other religions and practices, but Christianity,

at least in America, it's not politically incorrect. You can do it openly and not get hammered for. I think a lot of it has to do with people's personal experiences and maybe, you know, the way that they grow up or, you know, friends or people that they've had. And, you know, maybe they've had a poor experience in terms of being evangelized to and like when you didn't want to or... That's a good point. Things like that, but to me, you also have to look at that type of experience in different

directions, different ideologies exist out there. All I see right now is a bunch of ideologies being hammered on us just the same way that used to piss people off when you know they're telling them they're going to hell it feels that way with a lot of these movements and these justice movements. Yeah well I tell you what there's a couple things I think that are important to look at. Number one is and this is a fascinating one and you can do this with other practices. If you want to find a universal truth one of the best ways to do it is to span the globe, look at different practices that have lasted for thousands of years, and then

find commonalities. So Buddhism, for example, practices detachment, detachment from worldly things. In Christianity, they do that as well, but they talk about it a little differently, like just worshipping God and not worshipping anything that's worldly. Bishop Aaron talked about that in that episode. You see this in many different practices. Love, for example. Love being like the pinnacle value, the most important thing. You find that in, I think, most or not all popular spiritual practices.

So the spiritual truth in all of them. So you don't have to be religious, you don't have to believe in the mysticism aspect of it. You could just look and listen to the wisdom and then I get this pushback like what do you mean it's wisdom? Well, you know, here's a deal. You talk to the average person. You ask them if they believe in evolution. And they'll say, yeah, I believe in evolution. You ask them why? Oh, we have evidence of it. We see that bacteria evolves. We have viruses evolve. We see some evidence that animals evolve. There's also the same process happens with ideas, evolution of ideas. If ideas have lasted for thousands of years, have been practiced by billions and billions of people over long periods of time, have influenced major parts of the world, then those

ideas have some truth in them. They have stood the test of evolution. And I think it's super arrogant when we think we know better. Like you just, you know, you just discredit it. It's old stupid thinking. Like I'm somehow more wise than thousands and thousands of years and billions of people who've been practicing, you know, these practices or have these ideas who have found truth in them.

And so I think that's the, I think people need to look at this stuff this way. Well, I also think it triggers some people because they don't know the full context and your full story and they jump in them right now. And they don't know that because you happen to be one of those arrogant guys. Oh, I was, I was one of those guys that came from that angle that I was a staunch atheist,

staunch atheist, and I got there through study and all that stuff. So I know, I know where that comes from, but eventually when I got to the point where I was exactly that, I said, man, I'm being very arrogant. Like, if these practices that have these common truth, these common allies, if all these spiritual practices,

these major ones talk about detachment from worldly things, for example, and it's lasted for thousands of years. Like, maybe I should not be so arrogant and think that I know better. Let me just, and let me look and see what the wisdom is, and that's how I kind of opened up to learning about this stuff. So, I think that's an important,

and let's also look, here's a deal. Health, there's a lot of things that make up health. Now, we're experts in the fitness exercise and diet aspect of it? That's the expertise. But is spiritual health a big part of health? Absolutely, man. You can be fit as hell, you perfectly have poor spiritual health, and you will have poor health.

Yeah, just acknowledging you don't have all the answers. I think is a healthy practice. We could just get into learning a lot, and it's great to learn and be confident in the fact that, you know, you're educated and you've got to a pretty high level of education, but at the same time, you also have to acknowledge that you're a very small spec in this universe. Yeah, and I love, and Bishop Barron, I mean, he has to be the most, like I have never talked to somebody that, pro he takes on anybody like if you want a debate and have a discussion with him He's so smart. Yeah, he'll he'll he'll he'll he quotes authors and Philosophers and history like he's like a like a literal Google. Yeah, he's a scholar. It's crazy Yeah, it has him and did him and Sam Sam Harris ever sit down. That's a good question I would be one of what are you, that would be such a great discussion.

What do you know? Yeah, I think they have. I'll have to look it up. I thought they did. Maybe they did. I don't know. They would be a fun one. Sam Hammer Harris is great.

He is. He's open for discussion and debate. I would love watching that. Now I hear his history. He was a, I don't know if it was Christian. I know he like traveled the world when he was younger and I know he studied like multiple different religions and I thought he was like hardcore religious when he was younger and then went atheists as he got older.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but I know he did a tour with Jordan Peterson, where they discussed. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've listened to the two. Oh, that's all that was cool. Yeah, I love that stuff, man. I love it. Like, let's talk. Let's hear and... Here, steep conversations. Just trying to figure things out. Oh, dude.

It's one of the no-nose though, you know, I'm saying like the politics, religion, you know, like the no dinner table talks, but you know, I feel like with long form conversations like this, I feel like it's open the door for more conversations like that that we just didn't have before. Totally, 100% agree.

You know what it is, if you talk about anything that people identify too strongly with That's when you run the risk of the yeah, you get the backlash. Yes, dude. Yeah, it's just inevitable I mean in our space. It's diet, you know, you talked to like you get like a god Yeah, a carnivore, you know Finatic in the same room with a vegan and say hey you guys like Dogmatic for sure. It's funny. I was just thinking like, you know, people that like their pizza toppings and this kind of brought up like,

I finally found out who created your ultimate nemesis cell. Oh, Hawaiian pizza. The Hawaiian pizza is, it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a Greek Canadian guy. Oh man, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Just, I'll find out his name for you in the next podcast.

I'll let you know. I'm in Apple on pizza. Oh. next podcast. I like pineapple on pizza. I know, I don't get it either. I like Canadian bacon though. I'm a fan of that, but the pineapple edition was not welcome. Well, yeah, because it's a meat, but like, yeah, but it goes pineapple goes great on him. Okay, but not on pizza. It's savory.

I mean, I'm not, this gets them all fired up. That's why I like to poke at it, but I don't have a dog in this fight, because I don't like to do like Hawaiian pizza. No, savor. I mean, I'm not this gets them all tied out. That's why I like to poke at it, but I don't have a dog in this fight because I don't like you like calling pizza. No, I don't. I'm a traditional pepperoni guy. I don't like anything else. This is why I like you. Maybe a little combination every now and guys are good. You got your heads on straight. Dude, you guys know that that screeched died. Oh, I did hear that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He was young, wasn't he? 44. 44, so. Yeah, I think so. What kind of cancer?

It was malignant. It was a type of melan... I think it was a skin cancer of some time. Maybe Doug can find out. But he got diagnosed within three weeks died. Wow. That's how aggressive the cancer was. Wow.

44, you know what's crazy about this? We are now getting to the age We're gonna start to see people die who are around our age. Yeah, I know How morbid is that lung cancer? Oh was lung cancer. Wow. Yeah, yeah Yeah, but I mean he was a big part like I always my brother looked a lot like him And I think I might have mentioned this at one point But yeah like the curly hair and he was like nerdy and whatnot I can't tell you how many fights I got into because people call him screech.

So, you know, like now he's gone. Yeah, dude. Didn't he get into some weird shit after, say, by the moment? Yeah, he did porn. And then he did celebrity boxing with Danny Bada-Ducci. Yeah, that's right. I didn't know that random shit, dude. Like, again, man, it's useless shit.

It's all in there Yeah, what are you subscribing to? I want to see it's obviously nothing you guys here to think about Justin I have something common with Justin. We both he also has a What I'm interested in a sharp memory about certain things. Yeah, he does it just come up with it Yeah, commercials or random shit like that. So perfect for podcasting. You're gonna be for the ship from a super random. Yeah, that's what I'm all about. But that is crazy though, dude, 44 years old, man. Wow, that's gotta be,

like, can you imagine I have to face your remote down around the corner, man? You imagine that, you had to face it. You're the doctor and they're like, oh, you're terminal at this age. You're like, oh. Heavy smoker, was you heavy smoker? That's a good question.

I don't know. Dude, I know somebody that died young from lung cancer. Never smoked a cigarette in her life. Really? Yes. How annoying would that be? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Work? Maybe. Would you work in, would you inhale in or something? Nope. Weird. They've just got lung cancer. Yeah. I know.

In this. That's brutal. That sucks. I hope you can cure it one day. Come on. Scientists. Yeah. Get on it, man. Anyway, workout update. How's the workout nutrition going for you guys? I know we're on this mission too.

Yeah, still consistent. It's things of progressing. I've talked about my way protein intake and whatnot for the mornings, but also like before we do podcasts now, like that's my ritual is besides caffeine. I'm trying to kind of taper a little bit back from caffeine, but then add pure because it's, you know, getting stimulants from that, but I feel a lot sharper that way.

So that's been a regular thing for me. We fell off of that. That was like a traditional thing that Sal used to make that for us right before. What happened? I love it, dude. I've been doing it like consistently. I just got sick of doing the loop here. I got sick of it. You should for're like Adam. Yeah, he's I mean, I was like a thing right every morning You'd come in you throw our little mini water bottle over to us with our pure and then we would drink it before we get on the podcast

I just felt like I wasn't getting appreciated Keep giving them their their supplements Oh, dude, I love that stuff man.. Oh, dude, it's my favorite product of theirs. I mean, I know the green juice is great and it's like their crown jewel product and all that but like honestly, pure for me, it like I 100% feel sharper when I take it. You know what I love?

I love that they do the individual packets. That to me is like so convenient. So can I, I'm terrible. I don't know about, it's probably not savage. South carry is like a whole person What's in the back? Did you already revealed that yeah, by the way? I got I got a bunch. Yeah, please answer it so we don't keep getting these questions. Nobody will ever know But I don't like so I'm if I have to scoop it up scoop it out in powder form and mix it I can maybe do one or two supplements a day like that

But if I got a bunch of things like that I just I don't know I'm less likely to do it versus like a little packet that I could drop into a water bottle and mix it. I can maybe do one or two supplements a day like that, but if I got a bunch of things like that, I don't know, I'm less likely to do it versus like a little packet that I could drop into a water bottle and shake it up. Very, yeah, totally. Yeah. So I wasn't asking you with your workouts because I know you said you hurt your back or something

or you're not, bro. I am, yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm falling apart over there. Yeah, you know, I need to back off a little bit, right? I think I mentioned this in a recent podcast that I've been trying to scale back on the volume. My body's talking to me for sure. And I mean, what I was doing, and nutritionally originally,

I think I shared this was I was not trying to cut. I was eating when I'm hungry, just going after my protein intake. So my calories, even though I'm not tracking, I would estimate them like in the probably low to mid three thousand, which is not really high for me, but I guess it is because I'm not moving. I mean, my workout is my activity for the day.

The rest of the day, I've been very sedentary lately, not getting my walks in, like we used to on a regular basis, other than walking the dogs, like I'm not really getting anything, like any steps in every day. So I've just been putting on size and I've been leaning out a tiny bit but I've definitely been putting size on and I'm maintaining over 230 and now I'm at that point where my body just starts talking to me like the last two leg workouts. I just I went in and I felt something pop on one day then I was doing my back pull up so day and kind of jerked myself up and felt something pull in my upper back.

And this is what starts to happen when I carry myself over that 230 for an extended period of time. My body just reminds me that as much as I like being thick and full like that, it doesn't, it doesn't move. There's definitely something to be said, because I'm like that too. I, I, 220 for me is just, it's just too heavy. I don't have a frame. I'm not like Justin's got a bigger frame, right?

So he could walk around at 220. Probably feel comfortable. For me to walk around at 220, I have to have a lot of muscle on my body. And be very lean. And be very lean, which I've never been to 20 lean. I've always been 220 with, you know,

probably 13% body fat or whatever. And I could feel it too. I'm just been 220 with probably 13% body fat or whatever. And I could feel it's you. It's just too much, too much weight. For me, ideally, between 195 to 205 is probably my good, muscular weight. What's yours? I'd say 215 to 220, like is right around where I'm at.

So you're not that far off. Yeah, I'm not that far off. And why I think it's bothering me so much is because I'm still a little soft and I'm thick, right? So I think if I was lean Yeah, I'm not that far off. And why I think it's bothering me so much is because I'm still a little soft and I'm thick, right? So I think if I was leaner, I'd feel okay, right? So I don't necessarily need to like cut a bunch of weight and lose a bunch of muscle. I just, I need to lean out a bit.

I need to lean out, maybe drop five to eight pounds. I think that I would probably feel a lot better. I actually kind of thought I was, to be honest, that wasn't because I haven't been really checking the scale. I've just been eating high, told you guys, I've been feeling better. I can tell of thought I was to be honest. That wasn't because I haven't been really checking the scale. I've just been eating high. I told you guys, I've been feeling better. I can tell that I'm looking different. I feel like I'm looking better. And so I haven't really, you know, I'm probably dropping some body fat. I'm building some muscle, which I am, but I thought I would have lost a little bit more weight than what I have based off of.

Do you do do anything? No, I've been holding right at 230. Bro, we're still sedative, Terry. Yeah. That's part of the problem. Yeah, that's what it is. Because I'm not eating that much. Normally, if I used to lose weight on 3000 calories. Now, of course, that was in the peak of my competing and training and I had to ton more lean body mass on me and I was moving a lot more.

We'll get that roar and assault bike in the studio. Yeah, I'm gonna move my roar over the studio and that's the goal, right? So the goal is, I'm gonna, for sure, by the time. Yeah, I'm gonna move my row over the studio and that's the goal, right? So the goal is, I'm gonna, for sure by the time I move, right, so I'm moving in 20 days. So when I, by the time it's official, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so we had it, we're gonna be leaving.

This will be interesting. I'm gonna commute like Justin. I've never commuted to work in my life before, but I wanna be by the water. So I'm heading over to the coast and I'm gonna live over there. We'll see what that looks like. Katrina and I both agreed that It's one it's near one of our favorite places and so we've thought okay, let's see what it's like on the one who has to do the commuting so I also like I like to drive you guys know that

I mean we've been hanging out together all the wrong ones driving then yeah, I drive all it I drive us everywhere We go podcast and audio books man. Yeah, I drive all it, I drive us everywhere we go. Podcasts and audiobooks, man. And where I get all, you know, that's my time. And that's just it. I haven't been doing that consistently. Like, I'm normally really good about knocking books out and been really inconsistent with reading myself. And so I want to get back into the audiobooks

and the hour, you know, our 45 minute drive that I'll have, I think that that will be a time that I'll do it. So I'm really curious to see how I, how I, if I like it or not. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I love the beach. I think living near the water would be awesome, but I don't know if you guys know this. I have this weird fear of there being a tsunami. Never thought you'd want this. Really? So sleeping like, you know, like being near the beach and sleeping in a place where I feel

like if there was a tsunami, I'd be screwed. Yeah. It would probably mess with me too much. Well, how are you at sanctuary? It's a day or two. How are you with earthquakes? Earthquakes, they don't bother. They can hit you anywhere.

But if I'm near the water and there's earthquake, yeah. I'm definitely, I'm definitely. Well, that did happen in the Santa Cruz Harbor. Like, we got like trickled in like a mini tsunami that came in and lifted all the boats up and caused the ruckus, but that was it. It was just like smash some boats.

It's one of my, it's like one of my weird fears. Yeah. Being woken up in the middle of the night by the ocean. No, that's how you like get up on the mountain. You can still see the ocean, the beach, you drive down, it'll find it. Yeah, that one is perfect. That one doesn't scare me too,

because there's signs of that well before it hits you. Yeah. You see a storm of ruin, right? In the winds picking up and the waves getting crazy. It's not all sudden it's like, calm, quiet ocean. What do you mean? That's what happened in Indonesia or whatever, with the earthquake?

It was an earthquake off the shore, nobody knew. And then all of a sudden, why is the ocean going all the way back? Why is it low tide? Oh shit. I thought I saw a video clips of that and there was people 20 30 minutes before that They could have evacuated. Yeah, they always like it was crazy storming before it hit Yes, I was a sunny day. No, my trip in I don't think there's anything with the weather that has to do us to know No, that's a earthquake. Yeah, but you still don't feel it coming? No, you don't.

At all. No. Remember Doug lived in Japan? It has to be like some kind of siren that gives him warning. Well, I think a lot of them do, cities in Japan have sirens for sure. But no, I think it can be a beautiful sunny day.

You have no idea other than, like Sal said, the tide goes out dramatically. And that's an indication that something big's coming down. Yeah, look what happened in Japan. These are people who are prepared for tsunamis all the time. What's happened there are multiple times. And I thought I watched a whole video documentary on that, and I thought I saw people that were like hanging out

still at their house, they saw it come in, it was getting all stormy right before it got there. No. I'm not, something else. I mean, storms can cause swells or water will come in. But it's the earthquake that causes where the place shifts. You get the shifting and the water just all of a sudden moves in one direction. And I mean, again, in Japan, people got caught off guard. And Japan is like the most soon, like they're well known for. It's a hot spot for them.

Yes. And people got caught with the Pacific coast. I'm scared. Not really a hot spot for yes and people got caught with the Pacific coast. I'm scared not really a hot spot for those yeah. Yeah, I'm not. They've had tsunamis on the Pacific coast. Yeah, tiny ones really. Yeah, nothing. I thought they did in 1960. Like yeah, like 1820 here. Doug look at that. I don't know. What's your post? Okay, so what is it? Okay, everybody, what's your of all of us? What's your your your natural disaster, you're most afraid of? Oh, tsunami for me. Yeah, earthquake for me actually, and we live in it, which is interesting, right? Yeah, I don't know.

Earthquakes never, I don't know. I guess it's because I had like a good experience with earthquake, if I could say it's like, I was like riding it. You know, I was able, I was actually outside playing soccer and then I sought coming because of the ripples and the ground and it tripped me out and I actually had, I don't know, I was a kid, I had fun with it, so I have a different association with that but I think, I'm trying to think of what it would be like probably, probably like, I don't know, dude, I don't know.

Kind of fire, maybe. Wow, fire, you're almost there. I mean, I mean, for me, Earthquake,'s why earthquake for me because and be and we grow up in this So I've been a lot of balance no because if it was a big one and I was in a building Bokinok's your fuck like you talk about the the summit I feel like at least you got a few more minutes than an earthquake You're in the middle of a building and it goes down or it's starting to shake it to seven plus okay How would you rather be woken up in the middle of night earthquake or

fucking water coming through your door? Come on. Well, you're at the point where you're saying it's there to you. I feel like you got a little bit of a warning time. Well, so okay, by the way, what did I say? The last time the West Coast had a big tsunami was some time in the 60s. Yeah. March 28, 1964, the West Coast most devastating tsunami on record was

generated by a deadly magnitude 9.2 quake off Alaska. It caused powerful ways that slammed coastal areas, including the Northern California community of Crescent City, where 11 people were killed. See, told you. We're not. That's the city. That's way up there. We're not safe. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, yeah, we're fine. This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by

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Hypo, yes. Okay, so obviously first off, I'm not a doctor. I've just been a trainer for a long time. I've worked with a lot of people. I've worked with a lot of functional medicine. You just look like that. You just look like that. You just look like that.

You just look like that. You just look like that. So I'll comment from that position. By the way, did you get tested for antibodies or anything else in relation to your thyroid? Correct. Correct. And this has been a continual testing probably over the last like nine months or so.

Okay, so functional medicine practitioners sometimes will have somebody do elimination diet, they may recommend supplements like ashwaganda. But you know, here's the thing, and I also worked with a lot of doctors, and I would talk to them often about thyroid issues. Hypothyroidism, if it's just too little thyroid, is a pretty, from a Western medicine standpoint, pretty easy to fix situation.

You just take thyroid medication. The challenge becomes, when you're taking the thyroid, is figuring out the right amount for you, because oftentimes you'll start it, and then you'll get the effects of feeling like you have too much, or too little. This process can take, you know, six months to a year to really figure out the right dose. But aside from that, it's a pretty easy fix, and you don't want to go too long with too little thyroid, because it's pretty bad for your health and your overall quality of life, as you've probably already experienced low energy slow metabolism

That kind of stuff. How are how are stimulates going to affect her like caffeine and things like that pre workout? Typically someone who's hypothyroid that's a good question, too I would assume you probably have been trying to self-medicate with a lot of caffeine um I try to stay away from caffeine as much as possible, but there were sometimes when I was feeling like extra lethargic and definitely was doing a lot more coffee. I try not to break like coffee after 1pm, but I was starting to do it like 3 o'clock in the afternoon because I was just dragging some days. Yeah, did by any chance that you practice a ketogenic or really low carb diet for a long time? No, I did not. I've never been vegan vegetarian or anything like that either because I know sometimes B12 deficiency can be a part of this.

Yeah, and in low, keto diets practice for long periods of times. In women, sometimes we'll show up with thyroid issues. That's why I ask that question. So the best thing I can recommend is to follow your doctor's advice and to train appropriately. So you're gonna have to kind of listen to your body, which means you might not be able to train very intensely or very often, because your energy's probably not gonna be great until you get the

right amount of thyroid. You also, there's different types of medications that you can work with when it comes to your thyroid. So, you know, sinthroid is, I think, the most common thyroid medication. And then you can do, you know, like, I believe they do, like, bio-identical type thyroid type stuff. So, you know, you can explore that kind of stuff, but you know from a diet and exercise standpoint, it's tough because you don't want to go too long with low thyroid. It really affects

your quality of life in a negative way. I'm sure you've probably experienced. Yeah, yeah, honestly, it was a pretty big decline in my health. I'm a very healthy person overall. I have a degree in kinesiology, sports medicine, and nutrition, and I'm also a personal trainer. So like I take care of my body really well, and I was starting getting some cues and went to my doctor right away, and we've been kind of figuring it out over the last few months.

What's been going on with me? That's cool. And were you noticing the brain fog, like the lack of being able to concentrate that kind of stuff? Yeah, totally. I'm one to have a really good memory and I was really forgetting stuff.

It was really bad and I was like, is this just me aging, you know? I was. And then it was, but it would, I could definitely tell something was off. Did you have any kids by chance? Just curious. No. Okay. What's the training kids by chance? Just curious. No.

Okay. What's the training protocol? It's like, how are you training right now? I am doing, I'm actually doing a map Santa Ball with right now. Okay. That's probably the perfect program for you right now. Putting myself in three days a week, I think, is what's kind of just fitting in with my energy levels right now, because before I was training like more like four or five times a week, and I was basically wearing myself in at that point.

Yeah, I mean, when it comes to hormones, here's the deal. You know, you can do things naturally to try to balance out hormones, but in certain cases, the low amounts of hormones themselves pose a greater risk to your health. So like, you know, men with low testosterone, for example, they can try raising their testosterone naturally, sometimes they're successful, but if they're not, then taking testosterone is better for their health, then saying, I just want to, I just wanna be natural type of deal. So thyroid is one of those, and it's from what I understand,

from the hormone doctors I've worked with and trained, they're like, look, this is one that you can just take the thyroid, not a big deal, and it makes a tremendous improvement in the person's health and quality of life. It's an area I've never mess with. I mean, I've had lots of clients, and it's just one of those ones that they just,

they take the medication, I've worked around it with the doctor, I've never tried to do anything holistically to change it. So I hope that helps. Yeah, thank you. I just wanted your guys's input because I've heard a lot of stuff and I've researched myself.

So, Sal, Adam, Justin and Doug, thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking my question. You're welcome. Thank you. All right, take care guys. Yeah, that one's a bit over my pay grade, I'm Justin and Doug, thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking my question. You're welcome. Thank you. All right, take care guys. Yeah, that one's a bit over my pay grade because I had a lot of clients that had thyroid issues, but it wasn't something that I ever messed with.

It was something that whatever your doctor is telling you as far as medication, we're gonna follow. I know little things like the question I was asking with caffeine, how hard she's training, like those types of adjustments I would know to make. But as far as, you know, when you're certain, when you get into hormones, it's not something that I feel like that.

I can really control. I've been dealing with this quite a bit with Courtney, you know, with her thyroid and just trying to get the medication like you had mentioned with just getting that right, the right dose. It takes a while. And I think that it's frustrating

because, you know, you have to actually wait and be patient for a while. And I think that it's frustrating because you have to actually wait and be patient for a while before it all kind of balances out. But once it does, it's pretty dramatic. What kind of happens? Oh, dude, that's why I asked her about antibodies. Sometimes people will have autoimmune reactions to their own thyroid. And this will cause them to have symptoms of low thyroid. But they're producing adequate thyroid hormone. It's just they have all these antibodies, so how Hashimoto's is an example of something like that. And those cases, from my experience, sometimes holistic measures can make a tremendous

improvement by helping your body's own immune system regulate itself better. Yeah, but what do you mean by holistic measures? You mean like cutting out maybe inflammatory foods, reducing the intensity of training, maybe cutting out caffeine and stimulants? Yeah, I wouldn't know where else to go. Looking at food intolerances, some seabo, sometimes can cause issues like that, so treating seabo. But I mean, if you just have low thyroid, you know, okay, and I totally respect it when

people want to do things on their own and naturally. Give it a little bit of time, if it's not working, take the hormone because having low thyroid is not good for you. It's just not good for your health at all. And then later on, if she, you know, just an ask if she had any kids, she said, no, if she wanted to have kids, if she was pregnant with low thyroid, that can cause major problems for the baby as well. So it's not one of those that you want to, you know, necessarily, you know, just put to the science, they screw it, I'm just gonna be natural. If it's low, your quality of life is just terrible. Well, especially when you're talking about someone like that,

like all the questions we're asking, and she obviously knows what she's doing, and she's researched a little bit herself, and she's taking care of herself health-wise. So, I didn't see any obvious things. Like, oh, I'm abusing caffeine, or I'm training seven days a week, super intense, or marathon running, or anything that I thought that might be throwing her hormones off.

She sounds like she's got pretty good balance already. So I would have drove her right back to her doctor. Our next color is Adam from Ohio. Hey Adam, how can we help you? Hey guys, I had a question. So my question was, if I have goals for both strength progression and aesthetics, is it better to focus on one at a time or would it be better to tackle them simultaneously? Well, okay, so...

Better is hard to say, right? Yeah, that's a great question because both those goals translate well to each other. Working on strength oftentimes will improve aesthetics, and working on aesthetics, at least the way you train for aesthetics, sometimes, or oftentimes helps with strength because it helps you focus on weaker body parts and connecting to certain movements and focusing on form and the squeeze and the pump.

So to answer your question, I think it's always best to train in phases. This is just from my own experience. So I don't think training, you know, let's say you worked out, you know, four days a week, two of those days are strength, two of those days are aesthetic. You're probably better off, again, this is based on my experience training lots of people

doing a three or four week phase of each. So three or four weeks of strength,. So three or four weeks of strength, followed by three or four weeks of aesthetic, you know, maybe bodybuilding style training. There's a recent study that came out that actually supports what I'm talking about as well. They showed that people who did it that way got better results.

And you'll find in a lot of our maps programs, we put things in phases because again, we find that to be the most effective way to do it. It's hard to say best, right? Because what's best is whatever you'll do the most consistently, right? So it's hard to say that one way is better than the other. I just, I've found with clients that I've trained that it's easier for us to focus on one

thing at a time than blending. It's real similar to the question where people ask, like in a workout where you'll have half the exercises you're doing in the 15 to 20 rep range and then the other half of the exercises you're doing in the low five rep range for strength building. Can you do that and can you get great results? Sure, I don't think there's anything wrong with that

and if you enjoy lifting that way, but I like organizing it where it's like, okay, we are focused all on strength for the next three to five weeks. And then, okay, now we're really focused on hypertrophy and the pomp and chasing that. I just personally find that. I've had more success with clients in myself that way,

but it doesn't necessarily mean that you can't do it the other way. Adam, do you have, are you following any maps programs right now? I'm not following any maps programs. I've just kind of been tinkering with my own upper lower and I've been trying to phase it out, but this question kind of came up as I was working on that. Just as far as what kind of blocks or phases I should be running. Well, what are you most inclined to do? Like typically, you like the splits, you like bodybuilder style, training the most, like

what are you most compelled to do? I mean, I've trained it all, but I have really lean more towards the split training. I think that that's really where my interest has kind of landed. We just like to kind of challenge that a little bit and see if maybe you could try a new stimulus. A lot of times the body will respond in ways you'd be surprised just by shifting into a completely different style of adaptation. And so to take you into more of a strength phase might actually be a great start for you. Well, Adam, I'm going to gift you a maps program, but I need to know a little bit more about you before I can make the right recommendation. How long have you consistently been lifting weights?

Oh, consistently, I'd say probably about the last three or so years. Okay, so three years your recovery's probably pretty good. I would recommend Mapsesthetic, and here's why. In Mapsesthetic, the first block, the first phase, is strength. It is an aesthetic focused, obviously, the name of its Mapsesthetic, an aesthetic focused Maps program, so it is bodybuilder-driven, but there is a strength block in the beginning. Phase one is about getting stronger. I think you would do really well with that

program. So we're going to set you up with that for free. And I'd like you to follow it. Only if you'll follow it, though. How do we get to follow it? Yeah, that sounds amazing. Okay. Okay. No problem. And then I'd left some feedback after you followed the program. Make sure you take some before and after pictures I think you'll be blown away at the changes your body goes through when you follow something that's really well programmed Absolutely, hey, thank you guys so much for this. No problem. No problem. No problem. Thanks for calling. I hate telling people that Something is better than something else when it comes to like programs. Because again, we're all tools to get you some.

Right. And we've talked about this before, right? Like a subpar program done consistently will still always outperform the best program done inconsistently. So if there's a modality of training or like the program that he follows that he likes that he stays consistent with, even if it's not the most ideal for him to see the most results, but he's the most consistent with it, then that may be better for him. So I always have a hard time telling somebody like this is better, but I also have experienced with my clients and myself that when we have a focus, when the goal is,

okay, even if you want to, I want to look good, I want to lose this way, and I want to be stronger, you have all these mingle, but your main, we focus on one of those goals at a time, and we build our program, we build our mindset, we build our diet all around that, and then we move to the next part of your goal. I just have found that they've had way more success,

and I feel like it's much easier to measure whatever it is that you're doing, what is working the best for you. When you kind of throw it all at it, when you're like, oh, I want to do mobility, strength, and I want to do hypertrophy, all together, all in the same program, all in the same week, all in the same month, it's kind of hard to tease out,

well, what was working really well for me. Totally, and the big one for me is the mindset. Okay, there's a totally different mindset when you're going into a workout focusing on moving the most weight, utilizing the pump. Movement and leverage versus going in there to isolate and feel a muscle squeeze and stretch

and connect versus working on mobility or athletic performance, for example, all of those are totally different mindsets. So for me personally switching up the mindsets within a workout or within a week, I just am not as effective because honestly the mindset doesn't solidify and set in until like the second week. Plus you get better at it from the skill perspective. Absolutely.

So phasing, you know, is in my opinion, all things being equal out of them. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one. It takes that one.

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So I see these hips, they don't lie. Our next caller is Chris from Minnesota. Hey, what's up Chris, how can we help you? Hey guys, it's really cool to be able to talk to you. Thanks for having me. Now listen, my question is a mobility slash just kind of core strength question, which is during quarantine, I really was trying to work on just being less stiff as a board. And that involves some single leg stuff.

And I didn't have a lot of equipment. So it was bands. And one of the things I got into a little bit was trying the overhead squat with the band. And it just, the connection I felt to my core and just the way it made me feel was really awesome, actually, I just, I felt two or three inches taller. But I really can't load that because I have some shoulder mobility issues.

So I'm looking for other exercises, other things to do that kind of recreate that same feeling that I'm always trying to battle with to become more mobile because you sit in a desk chair all day so I'm looking for ideas. So my question would be first let's figure out what the limiting factor is right like what is it you think it's your shoulders that are allowing you to kind of retract to get down in that position. that aren't allowing you to kind of retract to get down in that position. Yeah, I have a really bad arthritis in my left shoulder. So, you know, I have to modify a lot of the things as far as overhead pressing. I use a landline bar, so I can't really overhead press. So, it's not really an option for me to, you know, to work on it as best I can, but it's really just my one shoulder that prevents it.

How much have you played with the Turkish get up? Not very much. That's another great, so where you're describing where you're at right now is really similar to where I feel I was just about two and a half years ago where I got on this really hardcore mobility kick. I thought, you know what, I did the bodybuilding thing now

and I'm getting older and achy and stiff. And I was on this pursuit to get as mobile as I could in the shortest period of time. And spent a lot of time doing a lot of like combat stretch, hip mobility stuff, 90, 90 work for myself, or zone one in maps prime, used a lot of that for like our wall test and stuff for thoracic mobility. And I actually got to a point where I too could get an overhead squat, but I had a really

hard time loading it too, just because I didn't have the core strength and stability yet. And I was still, I wasn't super mobile there, and I still had some limiting factors with my thoracic mobility. And so the Turkish get up, I feel like because it's unilateral, but yet I get I'm working on very similar areas, even though they the exercise looks different. I felt a lot of carry over into that and that same similar feeling that you just described, like that was one of the things I loved about the overhead squad is like, man, I do, even with hardly any weight or just a bar afterwards,

I would just feel so much better from that. I get that similar feeling from Turkish get-ups. Yeah, I'll add something to that. I think that's great advice. And I'll add a couple things. You can practice overhead carries with nothing too heavy. I have another great point of it. You know, kettlebell would be good,

but make sure it's lighter than you think. Just practice that full extension overhead, packing the shoulder, walking with the braced core, walking nice and straightened tall, carrying something overhead. That'll strengthen that top position. And then windmills,

windmills are great for the side of the core, but a lot of people don't realize it's also great for shoulder mobility. And I would take your time, do not try loading the overhead squat if you can't do an overhead press. I would try to get good at an overhead press first, and I would forget the squat, overhead squat for a little while because it's far more complex, a lot more moving parts.

And what you don't want to do is push it so far or too hard to where you actually have to take a few steps back. Yeah, I love those too. And especially if you're doing the overhead carry with a kettlebell, it could be a light kettlebell, but just because it's loaded on the back of your arm, and that being a lot of times limiting factor,

being able to pull your arm up in its full range of motion, it kind of helps to have that loaded somewhat to give you some resistance going in that direction. I also love the windmill. I was going to bring that up as well just because you do have to stabilize your shoulder while you're going through this thoracic rotation while you're going through all the rest of this motion throughout your body. It's a good one to really focus on that. And then lastly, too, with the stick, if you could just get like a regular stick, you could do a lot with that in terms of

also just doing like a shoulder dislocate, but you don't have to necessarily go all the way to your lower back. So starting at your stomach, and then trying to bring the bar up over your head, just starting with that, and then pulling outward. So really creating a lot of tension, extending your elbows and pulling outwardly

as you're lifting and raising your arms up over your head, we'll start really to train those shoulders to respond properly. Chris, have you done a handcuff with rotation too? Yeah, so I've really been into your guys as YouTube videos, because they're in quarantine. I've really been into your guys as YouTube videos Because they're in quarantine. I got plenty of time and I'm working from home now So I've done trying to do a lot of those It's they've been super cool. I did your mobility webinar. I could only do a bit of half the stuff, but

You know, I just been trying to do a little bit more and make it more of a habit Yeah, it was not a habit for many years and I just, you know, I'm not an athlete. I'm just a guy, just a regular old guy. So trying to use that to supplement some of my lifting has really been beneficial. A lot of the unilateral stuff too. But yeah, I've been trying to do as much of the YouTube stuff that you guys put out. It's really helpful. Yeah, reach, roll, lift, thread, the needle, hand cuff rotation, zone one.

Those are all, like, I think, an area that I would really put a lot of energy and effort into before going in on the training. A lot of the prime tests. Yeah, and look, here's a deal with mobility. It's best done frequently. It's not like strength training where you need to take time off. It's, you're better off doing, you know, 10 minutes twice a day of targeted mobility work every single day. You'll get far better results doing it that way.

Don't do mobility work like strength training where it's, you know, twice a week or once a week or whatever. Do it daily, you know, maybe morning and night and you'll greatly accelerate your progress. Awesome. All right. Guys really appreciate it. No problem. Thanks for calling. Yeah.

I think the big issue with mobility is that people will do like once or twice a week. No, that's good advice to keep drilling that home. I know we've set it on the show before, but I didn't see the major improvement with myself until I became almost competitive with it where I was like, how many times a day can I do this and how consistently can I do this every day? Before I started to really notice a difference, if you use mobility as just kind of a way to warm up,

it's better than nothing, it's better than getting on a treadmill, it's better than static stretching for a warm up. So I definitely think it's good. But if you're going to make changes like in your posture, like you're trying to work on correctional exercise, it's really tough because you have to understand that what got you in that position, what put you in the place of, you know, poor shoulder mobility or hip mobility or ankle, whatever it may be, is the habits that you do on a regular basis. More than likely, you're still doing those habits. You've got to put in enough work to counter that.

Just simply doing it one or one to three times a week is not enough to see that. Well, that feeling he just felt from being in the proper stacked alignment is something that he should experience more frequently. And so to be able to dive back in and put more work in that direction is going to be everything. Our next caller is Angela from California. Hey, Angela, how can we help you? Hi.

So my question is, can supination of the feet be corrected and what kind of priming would help with that? Oh yeah, great question. So supinating of the feet, not as common as pronating, but let me just for the audience explain kind of what that is. So supinating is when your ankle turns out, so it'd be your foot kind of turning up on the inner part, out and down on the outer part. Pro-nation would be like a flat foot, the opposite going up,

the direction. What do you, what do you think is the most common when you, when you see that, because it's rare to see that you see pronating more than you see supinating? Well, when, we'll kind of client or what type of person it comes to mind when you think of that. Oh, uh, dancers. Yeah. Yeah. I had a few dancers that had that. Yeah.

I sort of think of a sport that would cause that what, what, what dancers is the only time I've really seen it in a big way. Lots of external rotation with their movements. Yeah. a sport that would cause that. Dancers is the only time I've really seen it in a big way. Lots of external rotation with their movements. Yeah, overarching sometimes in the feet. I've seen that happen. By any chance, where you a dancer in the past?

No. Well, there goes that idea. It goes, I like to go clubbing everyone. That can't be. By the way, how did you figure out that you had excessive supination? Was this diagnosed by a movement specialist? Was just something that you noticed yourself?

I first noticed it myself because on my shoes, they wear like drastically on the edges, on the outer edges. OK. And I have a lot of pain get like a lot of pain and and and stuff like that in my feet and my knees and and so I kind of Google it and I went to like a the specialty shoe store as well. Oh, yeah, stay away from that shit They're just gonna crutch it. They're gonna be like in souls and things like that I mean, I guess in the in the in time, it can help with some of the symptoms, but yeah, you gotta address the root cause.

So some of the things I would focus on are stretching the calves, the soleus. So these are the muscles of the back of the bottom of the leg. I would work on strengthening the tibialis, okay, so this is the muscle in the front of the shin, so you could do like toe raises. So not heel raises, but toe raises to strengthen that. I would also look at your hips.

And I would also look at your hips because sometimes, well, oftentimes it works up the kinetic chain. And people start to develop problems in their hips where maybe their feet turn out, their hips are a little externally rotated. So I would look at as far up as the hips, maybe do something like 90, 90. Have you tried anything on your own?

Have you found any success? I do, I already do 90, 90s, and I do combat stretches, and I do some other things, but not so much for that area. But I mean, since doing those two movements, I've noticed a huge difference just in my mobility because I couldn't even sit Indian style.

You know, at one point, my legs had just my knees and just moving, I just couldn't do a whole lot. And so since doing that, I'm able to sit like that or get into certain positions that I haven't been able to do in a long time. And so since doing that, I'm able to sit like that or get into certain positions that I haven't been able to do in a long time. That's really good. I'm with Sal. I would definitely drill home the the hip stuff, even though it's probably stemming from the foot. There could be a lot of stuff that's reinforcing it in the hips. So continuing to progress that. I also have like a little thing. I like

to I don't know if you have a lacrosse ball, but I love to get barefoot and then roll the lacrosse ball on the bottom of your foot. So find the real sensitive parts, kind of keep pressure in that area. And then while I have kind of pressure in that area, I also try and like articulate my toes. And I actually start with that before I go into combat stretch, then I get into my combat stretch.

And then I like to do things like tippy toe squats, or even just working on calf raises, barefoot, and really paying attention to my ankles. So what you'll notice is when we do like a calf raise, when you're barefoot like that, and if you pronate or supinate, you'll have a tendency to either the heels will kick out or they'll collapse inward and you're trying to keep them neutral. And so just you doing a barefoot calf raises and really paying attention to your ankles

and not allowing them to kick out or collapse in and stabilize. So I would do like a calf raise, stand on my tippy toes and keep my ankles neutral, stay up there for like five seconds, come back down. And I'd repeat that for like five to 10 reps after I do my lacrosse ball on combat stretch. I think that's a great way to kind of wake up that entire area, strengthen the ankles. And then as you progress that, you can then actually even start to load the body in that

position. First, be able to do that with just your body weight. And then you can start to load it. And then you can start to challenge it with strength and stability by doing like tippy toe squats. So I love to, once I get to a place where I have good control of that, I can keep my ankles neutral, I'm up in the, up on my toes, then I'll actually squat down and for me I'll start with just the, you know, your body weight first and then barbell and then if you can load That's a great way to kind of see if you can get like a tennis ball You can hold the tall yet ankle so you can keep that pressure inward

So you're squeezing in and also too in terms of the pressure of your big toe that being the emphasis Just something as very basic as doing walking patterns in your house barefoot But really emphasizing the pressure of your big toe to try and reestablish a bit of grounding there. So you have that sort of triangle of force. So it goes from your pinky toe, your big toe, and then right there where the tongue of your shoe is. So when you're walking, you're raising your heel,

you're getting on that pad of the forefoot, and that's what you're focusing on, reestablishing a better way to move. Something that will put emphasis on that that Justin's talking about is I would take a quarter and I would put it like when I'm doing these like the calf raises and the tippy toe squats that I'm talking about is I would take a quarter and I put it under the right there underneath the fat pad right so if you look thinking about the the triangle that Justin's talking about, if you have a tendency to rolling out,

I'm putting the quarter under the upper part, upper right toe. Yeah, the big toe, thank you. And I put the quarter there. So I'm thinking, so you have a little bit of feedback. So as you're doing the calf raises and you're getting up on your tippy toes, you're thinking about driving through that quarter since you have a tendency to drive on the outsides of your feet,

you're trying to push off the quarter. Yeah, one more question. Do you know of anything that you did in the past, like wore lots of high heel shoes, for example, that might have caused this for you? No, I have no idea because I don't wear high heel shoes. I'm not a good dancer. I just only maybe the last, you know, 10 years of my life, I actually got into fitness. I, you know, was just not into it before. I just, I don't know how, how I got this.

Okay. All right. No problem. But yeah, all the stuff that we said should help quite a bit. Just, you know, income mobility in general and foot mobility in general should make an improvement. But it does take time. Practice frequently. Yeah. Yeah, no, thank you. That's awesome. I'm going to look into all of those.

Awesome. No problem. Yeah, less common, much less common. Way less. I mean, I can count on one hand and how many clients I had that actually supinated. I mean, it's more common that people pronate. And I couldn't even remember what, so for me, I don't think it was a dancer I had. I couldn't remember if it was an athlete or what the reason was. You know, I actually, the other one was when, sometimes when you're really, really overweight, you'll see that they kind of, they fold out.

You'll see somebody who's like 100 plus pounds. Yeah, it's because of the, typically the fat mass around their thighs pushes them apart and it kind of drives the lateral. So that's the only time really I see that. Otherwise, it's almost always pronating. This is one of those I could have used the visual and the squat and the movement and the water.

Sure, and all that, I would help a lot, but. Yeah, I would have made a big difference, but it's still very challenging and it is a very interesting one. People like this often will roll their ankles to the outside. They tend to be more susceptible to that if they ever try to go run or play tag with their kids, they'll roll their ankles quite off. You know, we didn't actually say this, but this is a type of person too that I would barefoot

train with after a while, too. So after we do all the stuff, the prerequisites that we talked about, I would look cross ball and all the stability, mobility, strength exercises, then the next phase after that would be, all your basic, I'd have her in the gym and having her doing walking lunges and I'd be having her do, I mean,

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