Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1499: What to Do to Get Past a Sticking Point in a Lift, How to Build Muscle & Improve Sports Performance at the Same Time, Strategies for Combating Headaches & Migraines & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: February 27, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. Courteney Andrews likes to have a good time. (4:31) Mind Pump Confessions: The guy's reckless driving days as young men. (8:44) Is society being degraded by the ‘helicopter’ parent? (24:52) The biggest risks the guys have taken. (28:38) How the guys use Organifi Pure to enhance their cognitive abilities. (32:35) Mind Pump Debates: Fitness trends for 2021 and will we see an increase or decrease in results working out from home versus going to a gym? (34:25) #Quah question #1 – Can you build muscle while pursuing rock climbing? (48:13) #Quah question #2 – Any tips to get past a sticking point in a lift? (54:53) #Quah question #3 – What's the best way to balance strength and performance when training for a competition? (1:02:56) #Quah question #4 – Any advice for someone who frequently gets headaches or migraines when deadlifting and squatting? (1:10:59) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump Live! Email: [e-mail] February Promotion: Phase II Bundle Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump IGTV: Drink Like There's Tomorrow @zbiotics The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** The Top 9 Fitness Trends on the Horizon in 2021 Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** MAPS O.C.R. | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump TV - YouTube How To Overhead Press with Kettlebells | Mind Pump Suspension Training Series - 3 Favorite Shoulder Exercises – Mind Pump TV MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Stop Working Out And Start Practicing - Mind Pump Media Mind Pump #1475: Eating Meat Is Good For The Climate With Robb Wolf Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now in today's episode, we answered live questions. So people actually called in from around the world. We got people calling them from other countries

Even earth and we answer their questions and coach them live. By the way, if you want to be on one of these live episodes Send an email to live at minepumpmedia.com send in your question and We may pick you and then you get to meet us and we get to coach you live on the podcast like that Now before we got to the live questions, we did an intro portion. Intro is where we have fun conversation. We talk about current events. We debate and argue.

Essentially, it's a fun part of the episode for us. After that, we got on the questions. Today's intro was 47 minutes long. We open up by talking about Justin's wife drinking with her friends having a good time. So, it's your lush. Now she did the use of Zbiotics which Z-biotics is a genetically modified probiotic drink designed to break down the negative compounds produced from alcohol.

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Plus you get a 30-day money back guarantee. Go check it out. Go to MapsFebubary.com. you get a 30 day money back guarantee, go check it out, go to maps, February dot com that's M-A-P-S-F-E-B-R-U-A-R-Y dot com. Justin. Yeah. So is wifey back from her week with the friends? Oh my god.

No husbands. Have a good time week. Just debauchery. Oh, is she back? I thought she was in comeback til today. Is she back already? She's back. She came back last night.

And yeah, so she definitely let her hair down a bit up there with her girlfriends. Did they party? Yeah, they party. I guess one of her friends brought everybody like a case of champagne. And so she had like four or five cases of champagne up there. Oh my god. Oh my god. Did you even make a dent in that? And I guess they made a dent.

And so I was like, I really hope that you guys used some of the Z-Botics. We have like a whole case of those up there. Yeah. And the first night they didn't. And it was just like just slow going and drag and ass and all that. And so I actually, you know, she totally forgot about it. And then the next night, you know, they did it. It was like, it was, it was game changer,

especially for her friends that had never even heard of it before, I didn't even know that was an option. It was just like, that's happened to me twice now since we've been up there where we have it there and I forget to do it. And I almost was like, it is, it's like the most crazy magic whatever I've ever had. It's weird. In fact,

so remember when we did that test, all the three of us. So maybe for, you don't know this, it was a wild, I don't know when we do that. It's on Instagram. It is, right? It was like a year ago maybe. And we did a drinking test to introduce this new partner, Zeybiotics, right? So for people that know, it's a genetically modified probiotic, but it's modified to help break down

the negative shit that alcohol produces in your body that causes all those effects of headache and feeling like garbage and bad stomach and all that stuff, right? So in order to launch this, we did this drinking game and we saw the rules of the drinking YouTube, right? It's gotta be there. Yeah. And the rules were, we thought it would go too slow, which was a big

mistake. We're like, let's make it a little faster and make it we can get to the point. I've never been that drunk. Anyway, the next day I felt, I mean, tired, but I felt okay, I still didn't believe it. And I've tested it three or four times. And finally, I believe it because it's weird. You don't expect to feel okay after doing something like that. We took it to its limits. Yeah, I'm not going three or four times. And finally, I believe it because it's weird. You don't expect to feel okay after doing something like that. Yeah, we took it to its limits.

You know, I'm not gonna do that again, I'll be honest, but I definitely will do the Z-Biotic whenever I go out and if I remember it, I'm just like, I just gotta keep them like accessible, even my car, like at my house. Well, I have it in my hands, so if you're watching this on YouTube, this is it right here, it's a tiny little,

that's it, you drink this and then you drink. It tastes like nothing, too. Now here's the problem with it that I found. And we predict, all of us predicted this when we first were talking about this product. It, for me, this is not, I'm not advising this. It encourages me to drink more. Yeah.

Because I know I'm the next day, I'm not gonna feel as bad. That's not good. The punishment isn't quite a severe. So when she comes home and she tells you about all this, she tell you like details or is it like, oh yeah, we had a good time. Well yeah, well yeah, it's like somewhat,

it's interesting to hear how they party. You know, it's different because it's like six women that a lot of them had been just like stuck, at home with like taking care of, you know, family members and like there's one of the, one of the, her best friends was like, they're like, home schooling and like, going through the pains of that and like, Courtney as well, is like, just this sort of

release that they all shared together. And so they, I mean, I think that's why they went a little ham, you know, with the drinking, but they all, it was funny, because like, so they stayed there and then they're like, you know, baking and like, you know, all the shitty food makes its way and they're all that stuff. So yeah, she was like, yeah, I dabble a little bit

but yeah, they didn't really go anywhere per se. They just like, we're seeing there just talking and having a good time. So yeah. Well, just to know we have the security camera. I know, I would have messed with it, but I'll have to turn the cameras off just so you know. How many, how many, how many girls were up there, I would have messed with it very well. I had to turn the cameras off just so you know.

How many girls are up there? I think there was six. Oh wow, quite the party. Oh yeah. It's all out of male delivery guys showing up. What was that all about? You know, the cop showed up a few times. I was wondering what was going on.

It was a cop, firefighters, male delivery guys showing up. I know. It all happened strange. You're playing single dad today too, right? Don't you have, your wife took off over to the last place? Yeah, Jessica went to, cause her family, her mom saw the baby when he was first born and that's it.

And so she now gets to see the baby and her Nana hasn't seen the baby. So she went over there. So it's just me and the older kids. But the older kids are older. So once your kids get to a certain age, they're easier in some ways and harder in other ways, right? They're easier because more hands-off, you know,

they can, if they wanna make themselves lunch, they can, they do their homework, no big deal, harder, because you have less control over them, especially when they're teenagers. But it's not like I'm like, you know, when you have like a young kid, it's like you gotta be there, old. So it's not like being a single dad, it's just easy.

Pick them up from school. He's the cake. Yeah, I can do my thing. Well, that part's a good drill. I mean, I imagine that part's kind of a headache though, right, because you have to probably, your schedule has to revolve around there is because they need to be shuttled everywhere, right?

Because how much longer do your boy gets his license? How old is he right now? He's 15, so he'll turn 16 in July. Oh, wow. So, okay, what's the permit process now? You can get your license when you're 16, but you're not allowed to drive with anyone else in the car that is not, I believe, over 21 with a license.

Okay, so now how do they, okay. So he can't drive around with friends, okay? Okay, there's no way that's going down in high school. Yeah. No way. Bro, that's why nobody gets their license. That's one of the reasons. Yeah, because you're like, you would. What's the use?

Right, you would roll with your buddies for sure. So I feel like. I totally do that. So, okay, is that, is that what's happening? Is that kids are just like, effing I'm not going to get my license anyways till I turn 21 or whatever? I think it's when you're 18.

Yeah, I think it's 18, not 20. No, no, no, he can't drive with anybody over 20. Maybe it's right, maybe it's 18 or 20. I think what the, what I remember it's 18, not too many. No, no, no, he can't drive with anybody over 20, maybe it's 18 or 40. I think what I remember it is, if the RiberCalt was, is that when you get, you can get your license at 16, you can only drive nobody else in the car, any age. I think it's just you, right?

No, I think somebody else, but they have to be older, they have to be so many. They have to be over 21. That's what I mean. Maybe that's what it is. And then when he's over 18, then anybody could be in the car. How do you not even know these rules? You have a son that's 15.

I don't know, bro. I mean, they change, they change them all the time. You know, one thing I do know is that these rules have reduced fatalities. Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, I generally attributes that to just less kids. Yeah, just less kids having their license. Okay. They wait till they're like 20. I'm always nervous with the young kids on the road. Pro, let's all be honest though. Okay, we all have to be very objective and honest here.

Okay, I know our kids are less than a thousand terrible drivers. Okay, when I was 16 in the car, I drove like an asshole when I was by myself, but I drove like a way bigger asshole in my friends when the car. Oh, yeah. They think about the shit you did. Oh, really? Where do you come on? I mean, I drove like an asshole bigger asshole when my friends were in the car. Oh yeah. So the thing about the shit you did, oh really? Where do you, come on, think about it.

I drove like an asshole, I agree with that. But I think I was more risky by myself. Really? Yeah. I wasn't, not on my feet. I was piling my friends in, there's no seats for them. They're just like laying down in the back. Oh.

I used to fish tail on purpose to make them hit the sides of the back. And the car. Dude, I would go off road. I did not have an off road vehicle. I just did it. Oh, dude, I did this one. This is terrible. I was in a horrible admission.

This is so stupid. I would, we would drive down. So when you go down towards Morgan Hill, there's these roads that there's not like street lights or whatever, right? These long roads. Yeah. And you drive and just to scare the shit out of whoever. I did do that. I turned the lights off.

I do. And you can't, you're driving in blackness. And whoever the first person to speak up is the loser. So you just, you don't know what's in front of you. You can find, you know, whatever. Idiots. You've really dumb ideas. Yeah, so it works. I think it works, dude, because, you know, think about it.

When you're with your buddies and your buddies, they're like, oh, I dare you drive over the curb. Oh my God, that's great. So you're more likely to be an idiot. Now, it is, yeah, has has overall fatalities and accidents gone down or is it just in that age group? Because obviously that makes it. Fatalities overall have gone down because of the advances that they've made in car protection, which is that's actually a big one. Cars are a lot safer now than they used to be. But even when you control for that, I believe in the young age group, there's

been a bigger drop because of these laws. You can compare, I don't think it's the same in every state, right? I think in some states they don't have that, so you can compare that or whatever. But they're saying that that made a big difference. Anyway, nonetheless, he has to do this like 30 hour online, so funny, he's still my son, right? He's got to do a 30 hour permit test. And he's, I'm like, what are you gonna do? Just leave it on and go do stuff, you know? Just say, it's for 30 hours. No, you got to click on stuff while you're doing it.

He's like, they thought of everything. At the beyond the computer. He's already tried to hack it. He's already tried, dad. He's like, I got to see him here for 30 hours. To do this whole thing. I was gonna pay a kid just to push the button. Yeah, I know what I would have done.

I would have been like, turn it on. I'll go watch TV on that. I don't worry. Do you guys remember the, so if I remember that we used to have to button. Yeah, I know what I would have done. I would have been like, turn it on. I'll go watch TV. I don't worry. Do you guys remember the, so if I, I remember that we used to have to do like this, I think six hours of with driver's head. And then you had it. And then you had a written test and that was it.

Yeah, you got to do that. You got to do the test. You got to take a class. Then you got to take a written test at your permit. Then you got to do the driving instruction. Yeah. Then you go take the test at the time. Drivers, it was hilarious. I remember being in that, like in the back,

and like one of my other friends were there. It was just so boring. And you know, you're watching, what's that one video, the road, the red asphalt. Yes, red asphalt. The one that's been around like, it was only exciting, 1970. You could watch.

But the whole time is funny, because like they have the same books that they've had for decades. And people just make little drawings. And they're like, so we're going through, looking at everybody's drawings, and crazy stuff that they're saying in there, and then we're adding to it.

Those videos are designed to scare you. It's the fuck out of you. Because they'll be like, and this is what happens when someone doesn't wear a suit. Do they still do that? And I feel like the frag out of you. The fuck out of you. Because they'll be like, and you know, this is what happens when someone doesn't wear a suit. Do they still do that? I mean, I feel like the, you know, the fragility of these kids these days, I couldn't handle it.

Exactly what I was thinking, because I remember watching, did you guys watch these? They would show like the dude's head, mashed open brains, I mean. Oh, brains splatter on the road. And like, I was like, ah! There's no way.

What are those class quotasizing? When you get a ticket and you can get it expunge from your record by going to it, what's it called? Oh, a traffic school. Traffic school. Have you guys ever gone to traffic school? Oh yeah, I've got traffic school. Do you guys, okay, so.

And you man, my first name basis. Right, okay, so. Do you remember your first experience you go into traffic schools? I remember mine. And what I remember, I was so fucking mad. So I don't know if this hustle still happens. Back when I was a kid and you get tickets,

this was what they used to do. So it's all online now. So oh really? So you had to go in person for eight hours and it was very competitive. There was tons of travel schools and they all had these things like comedy and traffic school.

Yes. And traffic school. To compare to compete. Yes, they still do that. So I was like, this is cool. I got to go, I did comedy pizza in Travis cool. I was so excited to go, like it was gonna be like entertainment. So lame.

So not. No. I remember somebody raised their hand about like 30 minutes in and going like, wait a second, where's the comedy? Where's the comedy in the pizza? And the guy's like, well, pizza comes at 12 and on the comedian. And it was so, you suck. Yeah, the guy was dry and spunk.

It was all in gimmick just to get you to sign up. Yeah. Because they were competitive. There were so many of them. And he tells a joke with it like as he's teaching the class, which is dry as hell. Now, I don't know if this is a thing anymore, but did you guys figure that I got so many tickets as a kid? I mean, I've told this before, but my car insurance, I couldn't get my car insurance anymore. The only car I could get insured under was my dad's 1978 working van, because in car insurance, I couldn't get my car insurance anymore. The only car I could get insured under was my dad's 1978 working van

because car insurance companies were like, hell no, we're not insuring that kid. You got a million tickets or whatever. So it was really, really bad, but I forgot where I was going with that. Anyway. We talked about our ticket stories before because I had four in a year,

and when you get four points, no, they spent you for a year. Oh, yeah. So you can only get three, yeah, three in a year. The fourth one, you're suspended for a year after that. And I got four within a year. And so I went to fight it. It was my only hope.

And I showed up and the captain shot that's what I was going to say. That's what I was going to say. That was a hack that I figured out where you get a 50-50 shot, they show up so you should fight everyone. Yeah, you get a ticket and you say, oh yes, I want to dispute it, you'd show up, cop wouldn't show up, and they either have to take it away

or if the cop showed up, nine out of 10 times they reduced the cost. So it's a $200 ticket. Especially if you had a decent case, right? If you had somewhat of a case or whatever like that, they would reduce it. You know what tickets I had, three of them, and they got expensive, carpool.

You know carpool, right? The minimum. Oh, that just went up again. So what is it now? A 550, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, so when I was driving, it was $267 for one. Every time you had one, it would double.

Yeah. So it would go to 500, then it would go up to 1,000 or whatever. That was one that I got. Yeah. So it would go to 500, then it would go up to 1,000 or whatever. That was one that I got. Yeah. I fought one. I remember because when I went to Chicago, I still had my California plates.

And so I was like just a target. You know, like they love everybody hates California. Yeah. So I was like driving, you know, in this like Southern part of Illinois. And I was passing this car, was going like super slow. And like the, it was, it was a broken up line.

And then it got to like double yellow, like right as I like pulled and this cop was coming the other way and saw. And the, the part where I was like, no, I got to fight this. Like he stops me and I'm like, okay, yeah, you know, you got me, I guess, whatever. He was like, oh yeah,

you're not wearing your seatbelt. And I was like, where am I seatbelt? I'm like, well, you mean I'm not wearing my seatbelt. You weren't wearing your seatbelt, you just put it on. And he was like bullying me, saying that like, I didn't have my seatbelt on. And I was like, no dude, I had my seatbelt on the whole time. And so I had to go to show up in court

to like fight the charges. Thankfully, you did show up. So what makes the cop be like that, right? So I've always wondered this. What makes it? Well, no, here's it. So I've had some, the last actually ticket that I got, which was a few years back, I wanna say it's about four,

so years, oh no, maybe like three years ago. I gotta, I should have got a speeding ticket. That was driving out to see my buddy out in the country up like where I used to grow up. And we were moving, and I was doing like 90 to 100, just country road, nowhere, and sure, shit, there was a CHP. And he pulled me over, and I was doing like 90 to 100, just country road, nowhere, and sure, shit, there was a CHP. And he pulled me over, and I was like,

oh man, totally got me type of deal, and this is a country road I'm driven on forever, and we were in a hurry to get back, whatever. Super cool, guy gives me like a, I think like a driver's license ticket, because he knew that, and I didn't have my driver's license on me, but I was polite to him, and that's all he gives me, he lets me go.

Then you can get in another situation where a cop will take you to the mile an hour over. If you were going 20 miles an hour over, it's speeding plus reckless, like it's like, it's like whenever the mood there is. Yeah, and they can tag, how they write that ticket determines

how big that fine is gonna be. And I always wondered, and I'm consistent, like I'm always apologetic and I'm sorry, like I'm always a polygetic, and I'm sorry, and I always try and come up with some fucking legitimate, good excuse for why I'm driving that bus. I'm gonna poop.

Whatever, right? There's peas in here. And you just, you never know what you're gonna get. And so I'm always wondering, I want like one of my cop buddies to break it down to me, like what makes you determine whether you're gonna give this guy a slap on the wrist, because you gotta pull him over.

I'm sure you're reaction how you talk to them matters, but I think what matters more is like what happened in the morning, you know, what they're doing. Yeah, like his wife walked out on him, you know, you're about to get fucked if you get pulled over. I got pulled over. I did it burnout at a stoplight and I got pulled over by two cops, two different cars. I was a kid. The dude pulled me out of the car, slam me on the hood,

put my hands behind my cuff for me, and my cousin tried to get out of the car, fucking dude pulled his gun out, and I'm a good at the fucking car. What? Yeah dude, and I was like, I thought, you see, I'm having to be a Milwaukee.

Now here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of my head, that they see a car with four kids, and you know, I was mean, my girlfriend, my cousin, his girlfriend. I bet you they're like, oh, let's have, let's fuck with these kids, let's teach this and my girlfriend, my cousin, his girlfriend, I bet you they're like, oh, let's fuck with these kids, let's teach these kids. So I feel like that's what it was.

Why is he slamming in the hood of the car, kicking my legs apart, and then he's giving me a lecture? I felt like you're trying to scare me straight or something. Cause that's the only explanation. How many times have you peeled out of turns and things when you were younger? Do I used to do that all the time? Yeah, I did that undercover got me.

So it was in front of me was this blue suburban, right? And we're in a neighborhood. He comes out of the stop sign. So he's now, he takes off a stop sign. I get ready. I pop the clutch on my entire. I just roast him up, big old smoke cloud. He throws that, he reaches in and throws a freaking siren

I tell of his hood and then and then pulls me over like all Detectives yeah street clothes and I and I think it's a kid back then I'm like, I don't know what he can and can't do to me So he's scared to shit out of me. It's gonna haul me off. Take me to jail. Did you buy that at some like You know, he just put it up there. Fuck with me. Well, that's what we be thinking that would sound said that they were probably just messing with I'm just gonna it up there. Fuck with it. Probably, well, that's what we'd be thinking that would South said that they were probably just messing with them. This guy probably was even a copy. Just fucking. Dude, so that'd be the ultimate.

So I used to, it's probably a daddy who lives in the neighborhood and pissed off. Fuck this little kid. I'm gonna buy one on e-broll. But back before cell phones were a thing, right? Used to be able to buy like these, these like gaff, like gifts or whatever. And there was just the slight that you push

and it would make the siren sound and it'd go red and blue light right so So I bought this and I was waiting for my cousin to do some great. He's always yeah right He always burn out or do something stupid. Yeah, so he did that and he just had some wheat so he's already paranoid So I'm in the back seat. I hit it. Oh my god He's shit is bad. Oh, fuck. fuck. They're not gonna get me. You like slams on this? Bro, he couldn't see where the car was,

cause it was no car. Oh, it was the best five minutes of all life. Just to do that. Wow. Those were the days, you know. You know, the crates. Like yeah, there's not a lot of that these days. That's probably a good thing.

We were reckless. Yeah, it was after I had my son, my oldest, that it switched, totally switched. All of a sudden, I was totally aware of driving like a jerk. Now, I'm at the age now where I'm the guy who sees it and everyone else. I could see a kid do that and I off. That kid.

My last one was a long, I was all the way through college. I was like, you know, kind of an asshole. Yeah, God. You know, mine was when I got a lifted truck. So when I got a lifted truck, I realized how fucking reckless and fast I was going in the car. The car doesn't feel fast. I drive that thing around 150 miles an hour all the time, all over the place. Then I get this big old lifted truck. You drive 80 miles an hour in a truck like that and it feels like you're going 80 miles an hour

there. And I remember going like, oh my god, this is kind of scary to drive this fast. It slowed me way down and made me realize, God, I am driving that reckless going that fast in that car. Have you guys ever had a scare? Like, so like one time I was with my cousin and we were racing our cars together on the freeway. And it was always, we were just, we're so competitive that basically it would always turn into a game of chicken.

It wasn't even who has a faster car. It was who's more willing to risk their life, right? Because at some point, we're going 140 miles an hour and the guy who takes off the brake first ends up being a loser. So this is just, it got dangerous. And we would do this. And then our turn came up and I was in front of him and I'm, get, we're pulling.

And so I'm slowing down to get on the turn. Well, he wants to get in front of me. So he doesn't hit the brakes yet. He goes around to try and pass me. Me being competitive, stayed in my lane, didn't let him come into my lane. Well, he fucking swerved and I see him go off the road and I see dirt and mud fly everywhere

and I swore to God I thought he died. So I pulled over and I'm like, just I'm shaking or whatever, I ran over there and luckily he was fine. The car spin, he's standing outside of his car and then we hug each other. And then after we hugged each other, we let go and then we start laughing. Now do you think that we're all just young and dumb or do you think that we're naturally wired this way?

Like, we have cars now, but go way back. Was it you would take risks when you were out hunting, probably when you were a teenage boy? Just taking the chair. I'm serious though. I'm serious. Like, this is a common theme with young teenage boys. It's not like we're, it's, you know, none of us grew up

in the same town. We all have these crazy stories that we're sharing and we talk like this. I know plenty of kids that we're, we're more drawn to risk. 100%. Well, that's what I mean. Do you think that, do you think that we're wired that way?

And it just seems crazy because this machinery now that we can drive 120 miles an hour, but it didn't matter. Even if there wasn't cars, we'd find other ways to risk our lives and that age. 100%. I don't think that's ever going to stop. If you...

So then the question is, and I'm reading the Coddling American mind. They talk about this, like, you know, part of what's going on in our society is the result of the helicopter parent. Yeah. Being so protective of their kids, does that go through your head as fathers? Like, okay, I know I did way riskier, scary shit than this.

Like for example, I mean, just yesterday, Max is outside. Okay, we have this backyard that's literally a big sandbox. There's nothing in it. There's not a sharp thing. There's nothing he can climb on. And I walked in the house to like blow my nose and he's like, you can't see Max.

I'm like, so, he's fine. I'm literally gonna walk right back out and she's like, yeah like, you can't see Max, I'm like, so? He's fine. I'm literally gonna walk right back out and she's like, yeah, but you can't see him, I'm like, so? He's gonna drown in the sand. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, you walk out there's upside down. He's gonna be fine for 45 seconds that I walk in the house.

He'd come back, you know? But I don't know, we've become so overprotective like that, you think we're doing more harm than good when we're in. That's a good question. It's a hard question, right? Yeah, I remember, I went through that too, even having the kids now they can ride their bikes themselves and go a little further and go out and explore.

And I'm like, how far do I want to let them explore? And then I'm just like, you know what? I have to let them do it. And it eats at me a little bit because I know there's blind turns and there's cars on the road and there's all these like factors that like you'll scare the fuck out of me.

Dude, it's okay, so if you, this is easy. Anything that is, that you think is stupid. Like that's people do, right? When you see it on YouTube and you think that's idiot. What did, that's a stupid thing to do. 99% of time it's a man or it's a guy. We're wired to take more risk. Now what's the value of that in society?

Innovation. Well, risk taking leads to innovation, leads to discoveries, it also leads to more deaths, it also leads to more drug abuse, alcoholism, and other crazy stupid stuff. So it's definitely part of male DNA in general. But of course, when you go down to the individual, it can very dramatically. But again, look at all the craziest sports, right?

You're going to see that the craziest things, the craziest risk gambling, the craziest risks with business, the craziest risks with substances. Well, looking at like working at like an oil rig or something. You know, there's needs for that kind of behavior. This is also why I think something goes viral like eating tide pods. Because you have parents that are probably like, kid can't go, take his bike too far, kid can't go across the street to the park. What am I going to do?

Right. So they can't do anything outside. We're protecting them so much. They live in this bubble. So they find something in their house. So let's fucking eat tide pods, put tide pods in our mouth and see how dangerous that is. It is weird. Like we're such animals sometimes.

Just like, think about the stupid risks that you would take as a kid and just the exhilaration. It's like it's exciting. I just did this thing. Even if you got hurt, there were risks that I took that didn't necessarily pay off, but it was still like, oh, that was great. Right, right, right.

I was exhilarating. So I think knowing that, you're a little, this is was great. I was exhilarating. Right, right. So I think knowing that, you're a little, this is why I remember I had that conversation about raising boys and girls, and we're like, ah, you know, it'd be hard or whatever. Guy with boys, you gotta be careful. If they have that strong risk taking gene,

oh boy, man. They're more likely to do this stupid, it's funny, I talked about, like I said last time, that, you know, they're more likely to jump off the roof into a pole. I got like 10 DMs from guys. Oh, dude, I do that. I jumped off the roof and came up. Oh, yeah, I did, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we were doing back flips time that, you know, they're more likely to jump off the roof into a pole. I got like 10 DMs from guys. Oh, dude, I did that. I jumped off the roof.

Oh, I did. I, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We were doing back flips off that and we're at somebody else's. We did that at, we did that at, how stupid is this, right? This is in high school. On my ex-girlfriend at the time had flown to Michigan for a week and a half. She asked me to come there and check on the dogs and feed the dogs while they were

gone. And we, I threw a massive party. And we're doing flips off the fucking house into the floor. Yeah, bro, like, how could you be any stupider than that? But again, I feel like we, it's like wired in us to do things like that. What's the biggest risk, like category

that you would take when you were younger? Like was there a cat, like was it, what's stuff with your car? Was it with your body? Was it, you know, is there something that you were, I would say both. So I did all the stories we were talking about right now with driving. There's so many more. I'm not going to waste everybody's time listening all the dumb stories I did is driving around in the fog and shit like that. But I also, that's what I was drawn to snowboarding and wakeboarding. I didn't control. Yeah, I would go hit a jump that is just way beyond my skill level and figured out in the air, you know, and crash.

I mean, I just, you took risks like that at that age. Where now I'm just totally off. I mean, yeah, we would, and that's why I was drawn to these full contact sports and things. Like, it's just like, we would test our toughness. You know, it's like how tough are you? What can you handle? And it was just always this pecking order thing. And it's like, you know, who's the biggest guy? You know, line me up.

And then we would have drills and we would just hit the shit out of each other. See what happens. Oh, dude, I got a pair of boxing gloves and I was 15. So what it might me and my buddy do? Let's see who can, literally, this is what we did. Let's see you can take the hardest punch. It wasn't, let's box and defend ourselves.

It was you go first. And let me see if I can take it. You have to think that this is how they used to do it back like to decide who is going to lead this tribe. We'd have to fight it out or figure it out who's gonna be the leader. You'd have all these men who think they're gonna dominate this tribe and run and be the head of it.

There's only one way to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? We got a battle. We got to figure out who's to end. Yeah, where words are cheap. That's just changed now. There's other ways that we can measure. Like they didn't have wakeboarding and snowboarding and fast cars to drive a hundred and twenty miles an hour. So they probably just wrestled on the ground and fought each other. Like let's go see you can get that gazelle from that line right there. Because you need to eat right now. Really? You want to do that. Justin, oh, you're the leader. You'll get the, if you survive, you'll be the leader. Say no more. No, that's all, that's all funny.

I took a lot of risk with supplements. I would study supplements, especially when I got into stimulants. And then it was just a fucking chemistry fun for me to see what happened. I'm telling you, more than a couple of times, I would lay in bed, like thinking, praying, like, okay, like, help me get through this heart pounding moment because I don't want my mom finding me

here with a heart attack. There has to be some good though to this, right? There has to be some, I'm serious. There has to be some positive to that because it make, okay. Well, we're all on sports. What exactly, I was just to say, what is scarier driving in the fog, the 120 miles an hour racing your buddy or starting a new business. I mean, let's be honest. The worst thing that happens when you start a new business

is it fails, it doesn't work, you gotta start over, and you work really hard. Like that's like, you're driving the fog, you die. Yeah, exactly. So I think that if you, I don't know, if you do things like that, then other things in life, I think, just seem so small in comparison.

I think entrepreneurs probably, I would guess, I don't know what the statistics are, but I would guess the more they lean more towards that risk taking kind of behavior. For sure, yeah. And it's, I mean, you're, you're, you know, what are the quotes around entrepreneurship? Like an entrepreneur, somebody who's willing to work

80 hours a week to avoid working 40 hours a week. And I mean, it's like half the time, people don't know this. Entrepreneurship in particular has been glorified in recent years because of technology and media, so lots of people are starting their own businesses. But usually what it looks like is this, you're an entrepreneur and you make shit for five years

and you work a lot of hours for five years and you make a lot of mistakes for five years. 80% fail, yeah. 80% fail. You know, I think that it's been over glorified the last decade. I feel like there's a lot of people who have no business doing it, man. I think it's a lot of people who have no business doing it.

And I think it's a lot of people. You get nothing going on. You can always label yourself an entrepreneur. It's like you know the fallback. Yes. It's only only fans. I sell herbal, herbal, online, non-supner. Yeah, I do multi-level marketing.

Means I'm unemployed. You ever get those messages from my old friend in high school, hey, Adam, how you doing? I haven't talked to you for a long time. By the way, I'm having this party. We're going to talk about this opportunity right away. Yeah. I think this little thing is our herbal life.

This is going to be an herbal life. Speaking of supplements, Adam, you seem very zippy. Yeah, no. Did you, what did you do? Well, I did the, so this morning I did our pre-workout. Well, here's one. I have a nice drive to get here this morning. And so I get a chance to really wake up.

I got to stimulate my brain by listening to an audio book. Then I get here, I have our pre-workout. And then before we podcasted today, I hadn't had the pure in a while. And so I did the organified pure with a thinning. And I feel, isn't that nice? It is nice. It's a great combination with caffeine,

because it's non-stimulating. I love it. Like you said, after the caffeine does, like it's perfect to kind of keep it going. Yeah. Because I don't want to throw any more caffeine on top of that. Otherwise, I'll be stimulated all night. And then I'm almost jittery,

and I don't feel as sharp on the podcast where if I back off the caffeine, do something like pure and theanine in there, it mellows me out, but then still keeps me mentally. Yeah, too much stimulation is not a good thing. It doesn't increase performance. do something like pure and theanine in there, it mellows me out, but then still keeps me mental. Yeah, too much stimulation is not a good thing. It doesn't increase performance. It actually, in fact, tomorrow I'm gonna be reading,

I'm doing the audio version of the book that I put together in a row. Sal's own sexy voice. Yeah, it's gonna be great, but actually, I'm actually not looking forward to it. I've never read out loud that long. I don't know if I'm gonna stumble over my, so I was thinking about this.

What can I take and do to help my son?? Tell my bunch of kids in here to just like sit and be like, you know, you're reading them a story. No, then I'll start doing like story voices. And resist this training. But anyway, it's, so I'm like, do I do more stimulants? Do I, and I realize that the probably the best thing to do is to take things to balance me out, because if I'm overstimulated, it's gonna be fast-talking, jumbled words, and I'll miss things. So I'm gonna do the pure also with all that. I imagine tonight, too, you'll probably put a lot of effort

into making sure you get a really good night's rest. You don't probably overstimulate. Yeah, but I don't wanna overthink it. Here's what happens to me. When I start to overthink stuff, then I'm too... It's natural as possible. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal.

Whatever, not that big of a deal. Anyway, I read an article on fitness trends for 2021. Predictions. Do we where we're getting right? For physics, so we talked about this a while ago. So, well, here's a, so here's, yes. First of all, we got a lot of things right with our predictions, but I'm gonna pull it up because very,

this is what's interesting about it. So there were nine fitness trends for 2021. Out of the nine, one, let me see, I'm gonna count them all. Two, three, I believe seven, if I'm not mistaken. We now set, no, seven out of the nine are all related to working out at home. Of course. So it's basically, that's gonna say,

that's not a very good prediction. That's too easy. Well, let me go over what some of them are. So like one of them is like, you know, home, you know, work out equipment. So a big one was like, home gyms. So here's one poll that said that 75% of people now wanna work out at home.

75, so that's gone up. Yeah, so that was, I remember it was 50, 50, then I remember it was like 60, 40, now 75%. Yeah, and the money people invested to ARX has to be exposed. Did you see they sent an email out? They were talking about their, they're have to increase rates because of the overwhelming amount of people that are trying to buy

equipment and they're trying to send this huge right now. And get it to people as fast as possible, which means they got to hire and bring more people on. It's not going to go down. Here's my advice to you. If you're thinking about getting home gym equipment, do it now. Because it's advice to you. If you're thinking about getting home gym equipment, do it now.

Because it's gonna continue to get more expensive before it flattens out, for sure. And that's what I'm reading here. There's apps for minimal equipment exercise exploding. So apps that tell you how to work out without much equipment. I just noticed on my Apple TV, I'd never noticed before, you know on your, you have the I watch, right? Right? You, the, you know, on your, you have the, I watch right? Right.

You know, the little health, simple thing, like it looks like a rainbow circle or whatever. Yeah, you close your circles. That's now on Apple TV. And so now, and I'm sure they probably are having all kinds of exercise videos and stuff on that. Apple's gonna keep going with that stuff, with the tracking and the metrics, like, they're gonna go crazy. Watch it all happen and this can be on your TV

and real time you're gonna have like all this data like being shown, it's gonna be cool. So I'd love to bring this up with you guys and see what your guys' thoughts are. I know I have my opinion, but with this explosion of people more interested in working at home, explosive explosion of homework, out equipment, apps that teach you how to work out

in your own solo fitness, treadmills, all the stuff that you do at home and the interest going up. Do you think this is going to increase people's consistency with workouts, increase the amount of people that are working out, or do you think because less people are going to gyms, it's going to decrease, or do you think it's not going to have any effect at all? I think it will go down. I think what it's doing is it's an easier entry level, right? It's easier access.

They are making it. Look how it was so simple that if I was somebody last night, I'm clicking on Apple TV, there's that I could have just, I could be a total couch potato and I go, oh, what's this? Oh, this is interesting. Let me try it. So I think you're gonna get more and you have things like total. But is that any different than signing up for a gym member?

Of course they do. They never go to. No, no, no, yes, it is different. Why is that any different than signing up for a gym member? Of course they did. They did. No, no, no, yes, it is different. Why it's so different is, and that's why I think we're gonna see a decrease in people seeing results, and we're gonna see an increase of more people falling off and less results is because more people are gonna get involved

or try things, which is only gonna keep that percentage of the majority of that fail. Going to the gym, okay, it used to be part of my presentation. Someone would come there and I'd say, you did the hardest part. You got here today. You were just trying to sell them, I'm not sure.

Well, yeah, but still, it just doesn't matter. Bro, I knew that line too. Right, but I mean, to drive to the gym and get there, you've already had that conversation and battle back and forth. Oh, I'm gonna do tomorrow, they got there. Right, solidified your decision. Okay. And clicking on an app and downloading it, and by the way, I'm gonna do tomorrow, they got there. Right. So let it find your decision. Okay. Okay.

Okay. And by the way, which on Apple is so easy, you just double click your face and now you bought it for $5.99. Sure. It's so easy that we're gonna see, I think, a flux of people come in, but results. Well, I just know human behavior, right?

You get the treadmill and then it ends up being like, you know, the place you rack all your clothes on. And you just see that all the time with home driven type fitness stuff, but honestly, I don't know. To me, it may be initially, it's like that, but I do see the convenience of it. If people are really concerned about their health now because of this crisis, it could increase.

I think it's gonna increase. I think I disagree with you Adam completely. I think people working at my experience, the most consistent non-fitness fanatic people. So I gotta take out, I gotta carve off all the fitness fanatics because they're consistent no matter what, you give them a gem, don't give them a gem, whatever, you know, guys like us, they're gonna work out.

Which by the way is most people listening to this podcast, right? If you take the time to listen to us talk for an hour and a half about fitness type bullshit, you are not in the case already doing that. But the average person who needs to exercise, in my experience, people who make a routine working at home are more consistent

than people who make a routine going to the gym. The statistics on gyms are terrible, terrible. The average gym, the average person signs up. Oh, I so, just, I pay so disagree with you. Oh, no, no, no. I think people having equipment at home and learning the responsibility on their own,

it's simple, it's basic, it's easy, it's right there. You're basing that off of you being a fitness fanatic yourself and having clients that are paying for personal training that are coming in. The average person, okay, let me tell you what it looks like is they have a room and it has every tool that's out, the Norda track, the Abcrunch thing, the thigh master,

and they got all these things that they got sold on emotionally at one point in their life. They're like, oh my God, I feel terrible myself. I need to buy this thing for 29 and 9, that's gonna make my thighs look amazing. They dry it for one week and then it sits there like anything else.

I think that's just getting, it's expanding. There's more tools, it's getting more affordable, it's beginning to be easier and easier to access on your phone. So you're gonna see a flood of more people, which is good for us, right? Cause that gives us more opportunity to educate and help these people.

So I'm not complaining about that. But the reality is, I think it will drive results down because you'll have a flood of new people and the percentages are just, yeah, it's all dependent on the program that they're being drawn to, like how easy it is for them to, you know, really start making that

something that they can repeatedly do. So, you know, if this could tap into that whole planet, fitness kind of market where the biggest drawback for them going to the gym was the judgment and they'd really nailed that with that environment. But if you can provide them with something that's easy and is really intuitive at their house, I feel like that could really work. Well, yeah, I think, so Adam, yes, they're going to be people like that. We're just talking about like percentage wise. I, look at, here's a deal.

Is it easier? How many obstacles are there to go to the gym? I gotta drive to the gym, I gotta show up, I gotta see other people, I gotta bring my gym back. I'm in the place with the other people. What about at home? At home, I'm at home, I can just work out. Here's the other thing.

The reminder to work out when your equipment is at home is there. The reminder when you're paying your $15 a month fee with this all day, dude, it's easier to not do it because it's there and to put it off because it's only 30 seconds to walk out in your garage and do it. If you made the commitment to get in your car

and drive the gym, you're working out. That's one of the things I loved about having in gym membership was that I knew if I could motivate myself to get to the gym, I was not gonna turn back around and come back where when it's in the garage, okay, like my roller is right now collecting dust. When it's in the garage and I'm going to walk down and I'm a fitness guy, okay, I have this tool that I use like crazy when I first got it. I know, but hey, working out lifting weights is boring for a majority. We happen to love it and find a passion around it. I think what you're going to see is more people in the market, which is all good for us,

and I think that's a positive thing, but initially, I think we're gonna see a decrease. Now, I'm hopeful, like Justin, like I am hopeful that these tools are gonna help you, but here's the thing I think about, look at my fitness pal and fat secret. Are people eating better? Yeah.

And we have tools today that make it so. I'd like to see some things- I think so. So easy to track your food and figure out where you should or shouldn't be, and I don't think that- I'm almost like, yeah, you bypass that, you don't have to learn any of it.

Yeah, and I just can do that. And I'm gonna count to that. Yes. No, I'm gonna count to that, because first of all, learning how to eat right is way more than just knowing calories and macros. However, are people more aware of calories and macros? Today than they were when we were trainers, early trainers? I believe so. Now, as a percentage, you might be right. Maybe it stays flat. Who knows? But a lot of it's a numbers game.

Let's say, let's just say for arguments sake, that because people are doing stuff at home, the enter into the market is much easier. So you get way more people involved. Does that mean that the number of people that are consistent will go up? I think so you get way more people involved. Does that mean that the number of people that are consistent will go up? I think so. Oh, the total number. Oh, duh. I mean, if all of a sudden you have a million new people

flood in and 80% of them fail, that 20% will still boost the number. Oh yeah, I'm not debating that. That's obvious. So I think that we're gonna increase by it, and we're just using fake numbers here, right? A million new people come into all these apps and tools. I don't think that the total number of success

is gonna go down. Of course it'll go up. It's the percentage that will go down. Well, I would like to look at, because it makes a big difference what they're getting and what they're like. If they buy like a, you know, a thigh master, I'm sure that the success rate is crap, right? If they buy a PRX rack that folds in the wall with a barbell

and weights, I bet their success rate goes way out. Well, I did. Okay. So I mean, these are all different arguments and things that we can tease out, right? If you compared a person who bought PRX versus somebody who bought a thigh master, 100%, the person that already understands that barbell weight training is superior and you should be doing that, is probably gonna see better results. That's a no brand. And there's been an explosion in these tech-based

home gym equipment things like mirror, tonal, or peloton. Now, those way more success than your normal, I'm gonna buy a stationary bike or treadmill. Why? I tune in and believe me, I'm gonna buy a stationary bike or treadmill. Why? I tune in and believe me, I have family members that did not exercise, they would exercise a month here, a month off, whatever.

All of a sudden they're consistent. Why? They turn on their peloton, they're in a class. Oh, so and so's telling me what to do. It's a lot of fun. So, you know what? It's way more successful. I don't know though, let's give that some time.

Yeah. Let's give it some time. There was a time when those recumbent bikes were brand new into people's houses and it was cool and it was like it was neat to have one. So you're getting the novelty over here. Yes, I think the novelty of that will wear off because Peloton is cool and I got all kinds of friends

that are doing it right now and I'm watching all of them. My cousins got one, my two best friends have got them. You're waiting for them to fall off. Well, I'm not rooting for them to fall off, but the reality is that it is. It's novel, it's neat. Oh, I can connect with my friend and meet him in a class. Get back to me in about 15 months to tell me where that thing is.

I would like to, so I think the method makes a big difference. For example, we knew the numbers on success rate of members who worked with trainers versus members that didn't. Stark difference. Oh, yeah. Huge difference. When you work with a trainer, your success rate quadruples, and even just consistency quadruples, right?

So we have to imagine that the way people are doing at home fitness is gonna matter. Do they buy weights? Does that make a difference over if they buy a treadmill? Is it interactive, like Peloton or Mirror, versus not being interactive and just being on your own? Is it just an app app I do on my phone that was free versus something I invested $2,000 in, right?

So this is all gonna matter. So that can't wait to see all those things. No, I agree. And that way we agree on it. And I am hopeful like Justin, like I do think that we will get better with these tools. There will be more interaction. You gotta think that a million random people

completely trying to work out by themselves because to your trainer point is inferior to those same million people or half of those same people getting a coach which is like interacting virtually. Even though virtual coaching is nothing like in person and is nowhere as good, it's still better than nothing. It'll help a massive amount.

Yeah, so I don't want to sound like I'm negative or I think it's going to get worse or bad, but I do think it, I think we'll see the percentage of success initially below. I'm hopeful that we'll innovate and we'll do things to make it better, but I don't know. I just think we have more cool shit that people can buy. Well, the biggest thing is, and this was brilliant. Back in the day, the reason why home gyms

were hard to compete with a gym is because buying home gym was a lot of money up front. And I'm gonna spend 1,300 bucks or whatever to get this equipment. Whereas I could go to this gym, it was very invasive too. Yeah, you had to designate a massive part of your house for it. Yeah, so whereas I can go to the gym, pay $100,

pay $20 a month, sounds easy, and I don't have to take a lot of space. Well now, like PRX offers monthly payments. Like a lot of these companies offer payments where you're like paying a gym membership and they're designing them to take up minimal space. This is a new frontier. I think that the fit, I think COVID and the lockdowns were really the impetus and they've caused a massive shift.

And I don't think it'll ever be the way it was before. I don't think it'll be like it is now. I think Jim is going to go somewhere. That's why I'm hopeful too, Adam's point. It's just, I feel like there's going to be a lot more innovation driving because the market is so fresh and new and green. And I think that there's going to be a lot of businesses that see that opportunity to really improve

the experience. I can't wait to see. Yeah. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-at-it-edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com.

And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Our first caller is Seth from North Carolina. Hey Seth, how can we help you? Hey guys, what's up? I have been weight training for about two years now, and I've definitely put on a good foundational physique and built quite a bit of muscle in that time. In the past like six months or so, I've started rock climbing a whole lot.

What I'm trying to figure out is how I can supplement the rock climbing to continue like pushing my performance to the next level with strength and physique, but also a lot of the guys in my gym are very, very skinny. And I am not that. I'm a little more on the broad shoulders stocky side. And I didn't know if you guys had trained rock climbers before, if you knew some things that could help supplement that training. Yeah, that's a great question. So I trained two rock climbers in the past. Now here's the deal with strength, right? So we can categorize strength a few different ways. One way is to categorize is absolute strength,

meaning the total amount of weight that you can lift. Like I can squat 300 pounds, and then if I train real hard and I can squat 400 pounds, my absolute strength has improved. Then there's relative strength, and relative strength is much more applicable to rock climbing. And this is the strength that you have

in relation to your body weight, okay? So let's just say for arguments, say you were able to maintain your current level of strength. You didn't go down at all, but you lost 30 pounds on the scale. You'd be much stronger, relatively speaking to your body weight, and that would make you a much pounds on the scale. You'd be much stronger, relatively speaking to your body weight and that would make you a much better rock climber.

So this is why when you look at really, really good rock climbers, they tend to be kind of skinny, wiery, lean looking people. It's because they're strong, but they're also very light. They have a lot of relative strength. Then of course there's the obvious stuff. They have a lot of relative strength. Then of course, there's the obvious stuff, which is a lot of grip strength.

You also want, you want to have really, really good shoulder, hip and ankle mobility. Shoulder mobility is obvious. Obviously you're reaching above your head and you have to hang and that kind of stuff. You also want to have really good hip and ankle mobility because the feet, and when you're kicking your leg up, you want to get up to to really, really high,

you know, foothold or whatever, really good mobility's gonna help. So what does this mean for your workouts? Well, it means being big and muscular is gonna be a disadvantage. You wanna be limber, strong and light. And so that's the way you're gonna wanna, you know, model your training.

Seth, do you have a map, so, CR? I do not. Okay, so I think I dug you're gonna want to model your training. Seth, do you have maps OCR? I do not. Okay, so I think I dug your gonna have to hook him up with that because I think this is the perfect program for what you're trying to accomplish. And OCR obviously is geared towards obstacle course racing, but it's a lot of the attributes that you want as a rock climber are gonna fit perfectly in there.

And the only thing I would tell you is, if you don't care about the running, because there's a little bit, there's quite a bit of running that's inside that program, I would just supplement that out for my rock climbing. And do that said. And those, that program should be perfect. Yeah, there's a lot of emphasis on grip strength

and their enhanced strength, which is like unlike the other programs specifically, but you know, one other case that I was gonna present that was more around prime, prime pro driven just because of what Sal mentioned in terms of mobility, but if you've ever done any kind of kin stretch where you've put heavy emphasis on isometric tension in these positions where you can be more advantageous to you

to be able to connect even further down from your fingers to your toes and have Be able to you know stretch that capacity how much force you can generate in positions and You know some of those moves in in prime pro are are fantastic for that So that's something that I would consider as well Yeah, and Seth I have another question for you. What is more important to you? Is it to look muscular and aesthetic, kind of like more like a physique competitor would look?

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For the lower body, I tell you what, your split stance and single leg exercises are your best friend. So, I mean, we talk about barbell squats all the time and how awesome they are. But this is a case where I could easily make a case that, you know, single leg step-ups and lunges and single leg deadlifts are probably going to be more, you can get more carry over to rock climbing than you would with a barbell squat. Cool. Awesome.

Thank you, Seth. All right. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, that's a hard tradeoff for people sometimes, right? It's like they want to look a particular way, but then their sport requires them to look a different way. It's just like, what do I do? Yeah, there's a point where it kind of inhibits like what you're trying to look a different way. It's just like, what do I do? There's a point where it inhibits what you're trying to do

with your sport, so you have to balance that and see what is the priority there. Well, and if you're doing running, rock climbing, you're doing a lot of cardiovascular things. It's inevitable that you're probably going to lose some weight and lean out, which a lot of times you'll lose a little bit of strength. I mean, we were just talking about this morning off air. I was saying how I needed to lean out.

The last week and a half or so, I've dropped about five pounds. Of course, a lot of that's water weight, but I dropped five, six pounds and went, came back to incline dumbbell press today and I struggled with the weight that I moved relatively easy just a week and a half ago. And what you have to understand is you can't freak out. You can't go like, oh my God, I'm getting weaker week over week. It's, I'm leaning out and back to your point, Sal, like, it's all relative to my body weight.

So technically, I'm as strong or stronger because I'm a smaller person this week than I was before. I ran into this when I was grappling a lot when I did judo or Jitsu. It's like, I'm gonna get big and strong in the gym and then I move up in a weight class. Now I'm against guys that are, you know, bigger and stronger and many of them bigger and stronger

in easy in that weight class, whereas I'd have to push my body weight. They've lived in that way. Exactly, so, and this is how it is for a lot of different sports, especially one. Now, some sports relative strength is important, but not as important as overall strength. I mean, if you're a lineman and you're playing football,

your body weight is also important. You're a big, strong dude. You don't wanna be a smaller, relatively strong dude. You want to be a big, absolute, strong guy when you're on the line. So it depends a lot on what you want to do. Our next caller is Alexis from New Jersey. Hey Alexis, how can we help you?

Hi guys. So I've been noticing that whenever I try to do an overhead press, I struggle with that initial lift off with the front rack position. I was wondering if you guys have any tips for that. Yeah, good question. Super common, by the way, like, since that's the hardest part of the lift for most people.

So there's nothing weird or wrong with how you're doing it or whatever. Anytime you have a sticking point in a lift, one of the things you could do is literally focus on that part of the lift. So with a overhead press with a barbell, one thing you can do is literally take the bar off the rack and the front rack position, press it up, bring it back down, rack it, wait five seconds, then do the same thing.

The reason why you wait is because this gets rid of that build up of what's it called, elastic strength that you build up when you lower away and then press it back up. So what you're doing is you're constantly working on that dead stop position of the press. You have to go lighter when you do this, but if you practice this often, you should get better at that particular part of the lift. What's the most difficult part? Like, as I know, wrist mobility is a limiting factor to that in the rack position itself. What would you say if you wanted to pinpoint sort of like

where it's a struggle for you? I would say just mentally connecting to the fact that, OK, I'm getting ready to push this up now. Like, once the weight is moving up in the air and I'm ready to lock out, okay, I'm getting ready to push this up now. Once the weight is moving up in the air and I'm ready to lock out, that's fine, but just like the initial part, like connecting to whatever muscles to get the weight up. Okay, I see. Have you ever worked with kettlebell?

I was just going to go that direction. Yeah, I'm glad you did. Not too frequently, but I do have some experience with them. Okay, there's a few things. I've gotten the guys into this overhead carries, but also just in the rack position, doing some carries. So, you familiarize your body with that position. And the load itself, being able to just have control over that and brace and be able to generate force in that position.

That's a good way to start really kind of familiarizing your body with that. So the way it's loaded, it's on the backside of your arm. So it's really conducive to pressing and overhead and doing sort of spirals type of presses that will really help to get that, you know, that rotational support and be able to stabilize the joint and you'll find that you get stronger as a result of just, you know, working with a tool like the kettlebells itself.

Alex, just how good are you about priming your shoulders before you go do your shoulder press? I actually make it a priority for sure. I forgot the name of it, but when you take a stick or something and you kind of rotate it around the back of you. Shoulder dislocates. Yes, sudgy nose. Is that the main thing that you do before you prime the shoulders to go in? I kind of also do some like lateral raises

with like two and a half pound plates. And I also have resistance bands. So I'll use like a light resistance band first and then go heavier and then eventually use a barbell. Do you have access to a strap? I heard you're in a gym right now. Do you have access to a strap? Like a TRX strap suspension trainers?

My gym doesn't have that, no. So you can use your bands, use the really light band, and you know what a W looks like, if you can totally go on YouTube, I think we've done videos on this too, and look up suspension trainer W's. And you can do that same movement with a really light band.

I like doing that before I do any shoulder stuff, just because that joint is a floating joint and getting all primed the entire thing, movement with a really light band. I like doing that before I do any shoulder stuff. Just because that joint is a floating joint and getting all it primed the entire thing, doing just the shoulder dislocate. Sometimes people just get in the motion of going back and over and they're not really priming the shoulder really well. And doing a road to the W really wakes up the entire shoulder. And then I would do a movement like Justin said like kettlebell presses and then with a little bit of weight and resistance and then go into your shoulder press with the barbell and see how you feel after that.

Okay, sounds great. I'll definitely try that out. Yeah, Alexis, I'm going to back up with Justin said, I think carrying dumbbells or kettlebells in that bottom rack position and walking is gonna probably help you the most. I think holding and staying tense in that position, the key is not to rest the kettlebell or the dumbbell in that bottom position, but rather support it and stay tight. And then walk for like 30, 40 steps.

That tension, that isometric tension is gonna build strength in that bottom position. I mean, when he said that, light bulb went off, I was like, oh yeah, that would make a huge difference. Yeah, and I forgot this one more point. If you're working your way back to the barbell itself, just to get a nice tight grip with a fist grip and have some outward tension.

So you're actually kind of pulling on the bar outwardly. It creates that the body responds to it that the joint is more stabilized. And so you're able to generate a bit more force. So just being able to pull out and create tension before you lift, you're gonna feel a lot more comfortable pressing it overhead from there. The other thing I would add to that is making sure

that right before you press, you think about squeezing your glutes and your abs tight. So you have a good solid base. A lot of times people feel loose at the bottom because their core is not tense before they press up. And that instability in the core, which is your base and foundation of a press like that, that's a lot of times the problem.

So right before you press up, think about squeezing your glutes, like if you're doing a hip thrust, squeeze your glutes and tighten your abs and then thrust a press up Got it All right, thank you for pulling in Alexis Thank you guys. I really appreciate it. Yeah, that you know the way the CNS works

You know because the CNS right that's like the the amplifier to the to the speakers which are muscles right? It's what turns on the muscles to make them fire. And the CNS fires more powerfully when more of it is turned on, less of it's turned on. So in other words, if I want to get my right quadricep to fire as strongly as it can, I have to fire the whole body. We actually do this naturally. When you're lifting something real heavy

or doing something, even with one hand, that's real stressful, you'll naturally tense up your entire body. So when you're trying to go from a dead stop position, you can't go from dead, it's hard to go from dead stop to all of a sudden turn everything on. Better to turn everything on, then go. Yeah, I imagine like, I know you guys have seen this in carnivals and what not, where it has that grip tester, where you squeeze it and then you see the lights kind of go up the harder you squeeze it.

You got to think about that when, in terms of if you're not generating enough force, if you're not lighting up enough muscle fibers to contribute to that lift, you know, that could be an issue. Well, I just think when you're talking about the shoulder like the hips, it's a ball and socket joint. And so you have all these muscles that are kind of supporting this floating joint. And if they're not all woken up and activated and stable, you feel unstable at the bottom. Just like someone feels really unstable at the bottom of a squat.

If you don't do a good job of waking up the hips, just like if you don't do a good job of waking up all the muscles around the shoulder, you feel really unstable when you go to a press just like when someone does a squat. Yeah. And then of course, if there's a part of a rep of an exercise that you're not comfortable with, literally just training that part makes a huge difference. Huge difference. You can literally stop your reps at that part,

hold the position, then do your left, you could add more weight at that bottom part or make that the determining factor to how much weight you put on the bar. Just train that part, I did this with bench press as a kid. I got the bottom part was so hard that what I started doing is I started doing, you know, I would do half reps, bottom up, just to practice that portion.

I got so good that it actually became a stronger part of my lift. Our next caller is Dan from Alberta, Canada. Hey, what's up, Dan? How can we help you? Hey guys, I'm calling to ask you guys, I've got fitness tests and about somewhere going to be between five to seven months and I've passed it for this week, my third time doing it

and for it, I've got to be strong and fast. So I'm wondering what's the best way to balance strength and performance when training for competitions, basically the results have to be competitive. More specific. Yeah. What kind of competition are we doing? It's a fitness test for 5. So it's like a seven-part fitness test over three hours. Okay. Well, okay, so I'm not familiar with the tests that they do in Canada, but I'm somewhat

familiar with the ones that they tend to do down here. So I'm assuming They're similar where you're gonna be doing you're gonna have to climb over things carry a heavy bag for some distance You know that kind of stuff is that is that sound similar? Yeah, pretty much it's a lot of sudden first of a Movement and then yeah, some ladder climbs and like I said, dragging heavy feet. Okay. Um, what do you struggle with the most now? Is it the strength? Is it the stamina? Is it the speed? It's definitely the speed for myself. Um, I've got the endurance down pretty well and the strength as well, but I can't do it fast. Got you.

Okay. So here's a deal. And you said you have three to five months. So here's what I'm gonna recommend for you. Anytime you're training for something specific, and let's say you're far out from that competition, like you are three to five months, this training you do now can be more general, the closer you get to your competition,

the more specific your training should get. So in your case, what does that look like? If speed is the issue, I would do explosive style training now. So this is where you can do box jumps, lateral jumps. You might do some snatches or cleans. When you get close to the competition, your best bet is to literally practice

the things that they're testing you on. You wanna practice those and get good at doing those because a lot of what you're doing is gonna be based on skill. I mean, I'm a pretty strong guy, Justin's strong and fast, but if you throw us in a test or a competition that we're not familiar with the skill,

we're not gonna add me to that conversation. I'm sorry. How are you not gonna add me to that conversation? I mean, I'm strong. Don't just get that. The Adam look strong and fast. Adam looks strong and fast. So what about what about maps performance? I mean, I would run performance until probably the last four to six weeks and then I would get very specific.

Yeah, what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, it actually works perfect because you work on that explosive strength initially. I mean, phase three itself is like completely tailored towards what you're trying to achieve in terms of moving quickly and like getting that fast twitch response. But then the last one is more geared towards endurance in phase four, but yeah, I would run that pretty much all the way up leading into your competition.

Just make sure you do the specific stuff, at least three to four weeks ago. Well, that's what I would, so if you do that during your mobility session. He knows the test, so I would run a maps performance program leading up to the competition. But then all I would do is I would pull out one or two exercises I feel are the least applicable to what I'm trying to do and add in things like drag, bag drags or things or climbing over a wall, specific in your training, but as far as the program means concern,

that layout is pretty perfect for somebody like this. Yeah, Dan, do you have access to maps performance? I do, yes, I do have maps performance. Perfect. And you know, just more commentary on this. I think, and I see this quite a bit, I felt prey to this myself years ago, where people will train for a specific sport and

They'll want to work out in the gym to train for the attributes that they need so they'll think to themselves and say I need strength I need power. I need speed so I'm gonna do Strength power and speed exercises in the gym and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that But if you compare that person to somebody that just practices the sport a lot, oftentimes the person practicing just the sport a lot is actually gonna perform better because the skill is so important,

the technique is so important. So I can't stress that enough with you, especially the four or five weeks before your competition, even if you just practiced, four days a week, just practice the test, segments of the test and getting good at that, you're gonna get so much carry over to the actual test. Well, that's key. I mean, towards the end, towards a month,

say, leading into your competition, I would really hone in and focus on the skill of it, but laying down the foundational movements and strength movements that you want to carry into the competition, that's going to be the groundwork that you're going to build off of. And that's why I think the program itself lays that out. But then sprinkle in the days in between with our mobility focused, you can work your skills within those days to keep them sharp,

but still build strength in the beginning. Sweet, yeah. Seems pretty straightforward when you guys put it like that. All right, awesome. Thanks for calling, Dan. Thanks Dan. Thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, that's a common challenge, especially Jim rats.

Jim rats, who love working out the gym, will, and they're like, oh, I want to get good at the sport. But then the sport is like, you know, 25% of the training that they do and they spend 75% doing stuff in the gym. And then they wonder why their sport performance hasn't improved as much as their gym performance is improved. Yeah, well, I mean, on the other end of that, you also see people trying to emulate those movements

in the gym, which I think is hilarious to me. Right. Yeah. Which is a waste of time. So if you're gonna be in the gym, the gym, the tools that are there are their best used for strength. Yes.

So that's why we wanna use that for strength and then we wanna use skill adjacent to that. I feel like there's like a common theme in these questions right now. It's like everybody's asking these sport or competition type specific training. And it's like you need to just, whatever that is, whether it be rock climbing or whether it be for getting ready for a firefighter test,

the stuff that you need to do for both those things is what you should be doing 80% of the time. And then the rest of the time that you're putting the work in to build strength, leading up to all that. Yeah, I, again, I know I, I go already referred to, you know, things I've learned when I did, you know, Judo and Jiu-Jitsu, but I remember trying to build stamina and I was talking to a very high level competitor. And he's like, well, you know, I'm like, man, I need to build more stamina. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, I'm doing these like circuits in the gym

with kettlebells, this and that. And he goes, why don't you just do more Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, blah, blah. Obviously, and that's what I did. And I got way better way faster. Well, it's like, I think we've talked about this on the show before.

There's some carry over to that, right? Doing those circuits, you're gonna build a little bit more of a gas tank and it's sure, we can't help, but nothing will help more than just getting really good at rolling for longer. It's just like if you took somebody who is a badass swimmer and all of a sudden you had to compete against somebody who's a cyclist and they're always cycling all the time.

Even if you're a good, long distance swimmer, your chance is a beating the guy who's always cycling all the time. Even if you're a good, long, distant swimmer, your chance is a beating the guy who's always cycling all the time. Even though both of them require cardiovascular endurance, they're different. Dude, if your skill is so important, it'll make you use less energy and exert yourself less because you're more technical. If you've ever, I know you both have experiences. If you've ever gone to work with people who are,

you know, do like physical labor, go to a construction yard. Okay, yeah, mix them in. Yeah, be a badass in the gym. You work out, you lift weight, crossfit champion or whatever. Go do roof, you know, put a roof set up for all day long with a bunch of dudes in the sun. And the dude with the pop belly who's eating the hot pocket for lunch,

is gonna bury you. He's gonna crush you. He's gonna crush you. So there's so much skill is so important with the sport that you're involved in, that getting better at the skills, you got way more payback than building general strength. Well.

Our next caller is Connie from North Carolina. Hey Connie, how can we help you? Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I was wondering if you had any advice for someone who frequently gets migraines or headaches from dead lifting and squatting. So I'm pretty new to weight lifting. I've been deadlet fitting and squatting

pretty consistently the past six weeks. I've seen pretty good gains. So my squat's gone up about 80 pounds, deadlift about 100 pounds, and I feel really good with the exception of these random headaches and migraines that I've been getting, immediately after doing these two lifts. I've also been experiencing some neck stiffness or soreness. Sometimes the left side of my neck will go numb, like a few days after the workout. And I've rechecked my form over and over. I've even gotten a couple personal trainers for my gym to check my form. They actually said it looked

pretty good. I know that I have like mobility issues in my ankles and feet, but yeah, I don't know what that would have to do with my neck. So, any suggestions on where to go from here? Because I'm just really at a loss. So, does this just cabbado with migraines? She does, but not like this. You know, it's interesting. Connie, by the way, I think you've won a couple shirts from us. I recognize your name.

Is that true? I don't think that was me, but it might have been my sister. She's obsessed with you guys. Okay. It's a bit chucker lady. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Cool. I recognized the last name. Okay, so interesting you're saying what you're saying because I have actually had a few clients

with exactly this same issue and it was really tough for us to figure out what the problem was, but eventually we did come up with some stuff that started to help. So I got to ask you a few more questions before I can try helping out here. Number one, are you doing any caffeine before you work out? Not specifically, and in fact, so I'll usually go to the gym around five, five, thirty before work, and I will have caffeine later in the day before I start my work day, but not before I go to the gym now.

Okay, so, okay, so a couple of things you're gonna have to juggle here, because you work out so late, this may impact sleep later, so you're gonna have to play with this. But caffeine before you work out, actually could help. Could definitely help.

Caffeine has got a positive effect on headaches typically. In fact, it's one of the ingredients. It's an excendron. Yeah, caffeine, I believe with aspirin. But what it does is it helps the blood vessels from expanding to what's happening with the deadlift and the squat is you're building a lot of pressure in your head.

And then the pressure is immediately released when you drop the bar. And I think it's that switch that's causing some of these problems. Caffeine can help and so does how you're doing your lift. Now, not necessarily your form, but rather when you're doing the lift, usually the way I recommend people squat and deadlift

is they take a deep breath in, they hold their breath, which braces the core. They do the lift, then they take a breath in between reps. I'm going to tell you to not do that because I think that might be contributing to your headache. Are you doing that, by the way, which wouldn't feel bad. That's how you're supposed to do it. But are you doing that? I've never really done the queuing of the breath.

In fact, I might be holding my breath. I have no idea. I don't really pay attention to my breath. I'm more just trying to focus on the muscle than I'm trying to target. Gotcha. OK, so when you're doing your lift, I want you to breathe out and try to maintain,

try to be relaxed in your head and neck as you breathe out. This may affect how much weight you can lift, but so what? It's probably a better trade off than having a migraine. So as you're doing the lift, I want you to breathe like this. As you're doing the lift to prevent that pressure from building up in your head and from causing that problem.

And then the other thing is this, is have you tried increasing your sodium intake before your workout? I have not. So that's the, I'm seeing a nutritionist right now who's like back off the sodium. Oh yeah, no.

And in fact, did these headaches start when you started backing off on the sodium? It's hard to tell because I've started around the same time. So I started the workouts around the same time. Yeah. So nutritionist. So I can, two things that I remember clients that had some similar. And the tooth one was actually sodium and hydration. Like drinking water.

Drinking water. Yeah, drinking water and then sodium. And then the other one was she had really locked up traps. And so she was getting like tension headaches. And then when she would load the bar on there and we would squat or overhead press, we would get these migraines that would flare up everyone's well. So what I'd have to do is before we'd ever go exercise

this kind of release all that with like a little crossball to kind of open her up and relax that before we go into doing any movements where those would fire like crazy. So those are the two in my experience that I've dealt with that helps. So hydration, sodium, which the salarady alluded to, and Justin, and then the other thing is, I don't

know if you have really, really tight traps. Sometimes when you have really tight traps, you get those tension headaches, especially when you load a bar on your traps. I've also had clients that had really bad TMJ, which also had contributed to neck strain and lots of tightness in that direction, which then inevitably led to headaches as well. But yeah, that's more tension related. So, but definitely hydration is something to consider as far as what I've found with my clients.

If you once emphasized that a lot, it did help. Now, Connie, I forgot to ask you, why your nutritionist is having you reduce your sodium. Do you have high blood pressure? No, I mean, I tried to get her to give me an answer because I did here, you guys say it was good, especially with weight lifting, to have higher sodium. And she just was like, yeah, don't do it. Do you have a, do you eat a diet that's high in heavily processed foods or is it pretty much whole foods? Yeah, no, it's pretty whole food, pretty much whole foods. What a weird recommendation.

That's old, it's based off of old science. Yeah, so, okay, so try this out. If your blood pressure is fine, if you don't have any contraindications, you're not eating a lot of heavily processed food, try this, okay, try having, now we work with element, which is a, you know, Rob Bulls company makes electrolytes. It's a thousand milligrams of sodium.

Taste really good. Try drinking a packet of that. About 30 minutes before you work out. Take a little bit of caffeine. If you want, you could start with like 60, 70 milligrams, 100 milligrams, even 50 milligrams before you work out. And then try the breathing while you lift and see if that makes a difference.

I have, I bet it would make, if it doesn't at least get, if it doesn't at least help, it might even get rid of the migraines that you're getting when you're doing the squats and the deadlifts. Okay, also, yeah, I wanted to mention too, I do wear a mask at the gym because it's required. I don't know if that's necessarily. It's not helping the cause. Yeah, I mean, if too, I do wear a mask at the gym because it's required. I don't know if that's necessarily.

It's not helping the cause. Yeah, I mean, if you're doing high reps stuff, then yeah, I would say that it might be an issue. But if you're doing, you know, if you're, you know, 10, 12 reps, I don't think it's making that big of a difference. It's not helping, though, that's not sure. Okay, well, also, yeah, I'll trust in these things. And I wanted to thank you guys so much for this podcast.

I had so many paradigm shattering moments and you guys are awesome, so authentic and I really appreciate it. You're helping navigating such a confusing world as health and fitness. Well, thank you. Thanks for your support, Connie. Thank you. This is like one of those ones where Yeah, well, thank you. Thank you for your support Connie. Thank you This is like one of those ones where Obviously very tough to do via podcasts without like you know because here's a it's with a trail there Yeah, exactly. I mean we all threw a ton of things

Yeah, hopefully she actually you know, she listens to this Hopefully she teases some of those out and actually just applies one or two at a time and then sees what happens The plies the other one or two at a time to get to the bottom of it because if she throws out all the advice or throws all the advice that we gave at one time she might not know exactly what the problem is. But those are the two things that came to my mind right away is the hydration, sodium thing I've dealt with that and then the really tight traps before you go to the next. Yeah, and again, without knowing more, it's hard, right? Cause maybe the dietician or the person

working on nutrition, what the found? Well, there might be a reason, right? There might be, she didn't say she knew. She said it wasn't blood pressure. I mean, who knows? It could be something with her kidneys. It could be, I know. So I don't wanna make sure that.

But the nutrition isn't doing blood work. I don't know. I don't know if she's working with a, like in the hospital or what the deal is. I feel like if she was working with someone that was doing blood work, I don't know. I don't know if she's working with a, like in the hospital or what the deal is. I feel like if she was working with someone who was doing blood work, they would have gave back it. They would have diagnosed her herself. It could also just be based off of old crappy science, you know, where you're, it's my

feeling. It's just, it's like that's one of the things they do. Oh, drop your calories and try and drop some of them. And just, you know, that's just one of the blanket things that they have. But I mean, I had a client who felt exactly the same way. We do the deadlift and afterwards it would just all of a sudden start throbbing in her head. And I had her take 50 milligrams of caffeine before the workout and do her breathing.

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