Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1503: The Ideal Amount of Protein for Muscle Gain & Fat Loss, How to Know If You Have Good Muscle Building Genes, Walking for Fat Loss & More

Episode Date: March 5, 2021

Sal’s baby monitor snafu. (6:15) The funny ways guys try to impress girls. (14:05) When Sci-fi movie plots come to life. (17:42) Will gyms survive the pandemic? (18:25) Have we lost our common sense of morality? (24:03) Are we predisposed to have genetically gifted body parts? (35:37) Red light therapy and recovery. (41:25) #Quah question #1 – Is it true that shorter walks of 30 minutes or less will primarily burn sugar and carbs, while longer walks will primarily burn fat? (44:21) #Quah question #2 – How can you know how good your muscle-building genes are? Wrist, ankle, and neck measurements? What would be good measurements as opposed to bad? (47:50) #Quah question #3 – I'm an old has been and want to look and feel like I can still f*** s*** up! What program would I do for that? (54:33) #Quah question #4 – Why do most calorie and macro calculators still use the old school 1 gram pound per body weight and even above 1.2 grams while cutting? When most recent studies show no benefits for muscle building or fat loss in going above 0.7 grams per pound? (56:42) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Promotion: Bikini Spring Bundle – Promo code: “SPRINGBREAK” at checkout Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. Great apes at San Diego Zoo become first non-humans to receive COVID-19 vaccine Which states have dropped mask mandates and why J&J's Covid-19 Vaccine Is Safe and Effective, FDA Says 6 Dr. Seuss books won't be published anymore because they portray people in 'hurtful and wrong' ways The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure Mind Pump # Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth: 1322: What’s Your Real Muscle Building Potential? (And How To Get There…) Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Optimal Performance and Recovery with Light Therapy - Joovv Laws of thermodynamics - Wikipedia How Your Genetics Influence Your Muscle Building Potential – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Fasting and Cancer: The Science Behind This Treatment Method Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dave Asprey (@dave.asprey)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now, before you go into what happened in today's episode, I want to let everybody know that our strong women deadlift shirts are on sale right now.

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There was one lady up there, it was 400 pound plus deadlift. Anyway, you can buy these shirts at mindpumpstore.com. Okay, so today's episode was a Q&A episode, so we answered fitness and health questions, but we opened the episode with an intro portion where we talked about stuff that's happening in our lives. We mentioned some of our sponsors. That portion was 38 minutes long.

After that, we got into the question. So here's what we talked about. We opened up by talking about the baby monitor, SNAFU, I had yesterday. Yeah. Scared the hell out of myself. By the way, Brain FM has these incredible songs and beats that can help make you go to sleep.

It actually works on babies or improve your focus. We brought it up in this episode. You can go check them out. Mind pump has a discount. You can go to brain.fm-mindpump for 20% off. Then Justin talked about his older son, learning how to dance, Russian style to attract girls. Hey, it's working, so proud.

Then we brought up how monkeys in San Diego are being injected with a experimental vaccine. What could go wrong? Who knows? Then we'd monkeys. Then we talked about the Mind Pump Private Forum where things get controversial. If you'd like to hear our controversial opinions, you've got to go in the private forum. It's a lot of fun.

Yeah, it's better there. Then we'd talk about genetically gifted body parts. Oh yeah, who's got a genetically gifted body part in this room? Oh yeah. And then we'd talk about red light therapy and recovery. Go learn about red light therapy. It's actually quite fascinating. We work with a company called Juve that makes the about red light therapy. It's actually quite fascinating. We work with a company called Juve

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That's after that, we got into the questions. The first question was, this person wants to know if it's true that shorter bouts of cardio burn, primarily carbs, while longer bouts of cardio burn fat. The next question, this person wants to know how you can figure out if you have good muscle building genetics. So we talk about things you can look for to clue you in as to whether or not

you can build muscle easily. The third question was, this person's old and wants to look like they can f things up. They wanna look awesome. What the fuck you do now? The best program. So we talk about the best program for that person to follow.

We mentioned actually maps strong for them. And then the final question, this person wants to know why it's still recommended that people eat a gram or more of protein per pound of body weight. When studies show that, there's really no extra benefits from eating more than 0.7 grams of protein per pound of body weight. Also before the episode starts, we are running a huge promotion on two workout programs and on one of our workout program bundles.

We picked ones that were perfect to get people in shape for the warming coming months. So here's the programs that are on sale. Maps hit, this is high-intensity interval training, done properly, we programmed it, so it's not a crappy one. Then we have Maps Split, which is a body builder workout program. Both of those are 50% off.

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Are they cheaper? No, that's not a medium. Sure it is. No, it's not. It's a large. No, it's a real large. Dude, get a shirt that fits you. Bro, this is a rare wrap.

Let me explain something to you about muscles. This is a large, although. Hey, be honest right now. You, no, no, no, no, okay. Okay, although a be honest right now No, no, okay, okay, all right be honest. I won't lie. Okay, you really 100% you were the guy Okay, when you went to parties if you ever were invited you were the guy that did push-ups in the bathroom No, don't fucking lie. I didn't do you know why okay? Here's why I know you did no Here's why I never to push it to the bathroom I'll explain myself and I put yeah at I don't know if I believe

Okay, this is stupid. This is so stupid. I'll tell you why that's not true. Okay, okay, okay, and you'll believe me Okay, you will believe me because you didn't get invited to parties. No number one number one the reason why I wouldn't do pushups in the bathroom is in those days I thought any additional and why I wouldn't do pushups in the bathroom is in those days, I thought any additional exercise or activity would hamper my recovery in my game. So for sure, I would not do extra, what would my waste? You might have slammed a stake in the bathroom then.

What? Why would I eat a stake in the bathroom? What a gross place. I need those calories, I don't want to lose any muscle. No, so I didn't do it because I wouldn't even, I thought of it. And also pumps don't laugh, I mean, how long is a pump gonna last I have to go to bathroom

I don't have to go talk to the girl in the kitchen. Oh now bro. I got a mouthpiece. I don't need muscles for that It's like you know I mean yeah muscles. Yeah, I think you're lying to know. Did you do push-ups in the bathroom? I did Yeah before we in the club. You're just trying to project your shit on me of course of course I'm saying I'm in it though. You know saying I was that guy always put out pukes But I was like 15 I still think you do those push-ups in the bathroom No, I'm pretty sure you do before the podcast. Yes, but what podcast to do? I don't look because everybody thinks that everyone's just like they think sells the buff guy them again in person They're like oh shit Justin and Adam is a buff guy

What happened? What the fuck you're like yeah, that's because Justin I don't do push-ups in the bathroom No one would pop up Illusions No, no in the woods ever. It's all nice. Push-in. Inusions. Pushups in small shirts.

That's a lot of jealousy going on. Hey, you guys are so jealous. You guys, we hear one of the scariest things that were happening to me yesterday. Really? Oh my God. Terrifying. Okay, so we're doing sleep training with the baby right now, right? Which, you know, that sucks, right? Because the baby cries and

you do the whole thing, you go in, let them know you're there, leave. Okay, yeah, what's the explain? The protocol. Yeah, let's hear your protocols. There's like a million ways to do sleep. So we put, so what we do is we, when he shows signs of being sleepy, yawning, you know, rubbing his eyes the whole deal, um, you know, we'll go and put him down, we'll get him all set up, we'll put him down, and then we'll leave. And inevitably right now, he'll start crying because he's used to falling asleep on mom all the time, right?

And that's just, you're not sustainable. He's older now, it's time for him to learn how to fall asleep on his own. So when we put him down, he'll start crying. We'll wait five minutes. If he's crying consistently, relatively consistently for five minutes, we'll go back in the room,

let him know that we're here. Hey buddy, I'm here, I love you, listen, it's time to go to sleep, it's time to go night night, and then we'll walk back out and we'll repeat this process until he falls asleep. And that can take, the first time we did it, took over an hour, but it seems to be getting better. Each time it's shorter and shorter.

In fact, yesterday, which is remarkable, Jessica put him down and he fell on his own, fell right asleep, which he would have never done before. But anyway, that's not the story. So here's the story, right? So we have a baby monitor, the little camera that you can see on the bed and see what's going on. But you have the same thing that happened to you? Hold on. So got that you can see on the bed and see what you have the same thing that happened to you hold on. So I got the baby

monitor on the bed and I moved his his because he's got like a bassinet or whatever. It's like a big pack and play so he could sleep next to us. Yeah. And then he has a crib in his room. So we're I'm angling the the the pack and play so that he can't see me in bed when I go to bed later because we're still doing the whole sleep thing. If he knows I'm there, he's just going to cry the whole time. So he has to kind of feel like he's on his own for a little bit or whatever. So I'm angling it because I'm angling it.

I'm moving the camera to make sure I can see where he's at. So this is that night. So this is like 7.30 at night and you know 8 o'clock at night, we're about to put him down. So I move the pack and play. I set up the camera or whatever, I turn on the monitor, and I see like, oh cool, I could see his bed. This is cool, no problem. I put him down, go downstairs,

and we're chilling, and he starts to cry. So I check the monitor, no baby. All I hear, all I hear is crying. No baby on the monitor. So I immediately sweat sweat and run upstairs, like a monster because I hear my baby crying, no one in the bed, I'm gonna kill someone, or I don't know what happened, what's going on?

The monitor freezing. I fucking run up there, dude. Like I took two steps up my entire staircase. Like one, two, I'm at the top. Ah! And he's in there screaming. And I'm like like one, two, I'm at the top. Aaaaah! And he's in there screaming. And I'm like, what the fuck? I look at the camera, or the monitor, no baby.

Here's what happened. We have two cameras. One in his room. Oh, it connected to the other blue two. Roar. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Scared. Oh.

Shit. It's just like what happened to me. Bro, when I told you that story, I was in there, and all of a sudden I and I hear this clunk of the sound and then the thing froze and then he wasn't in the Oh, I was in the room. I was in the room with him. I just it was pitch black. I couldn't see anything Oh my god, I'm like been abducted by aliens Someone took my baby. You know what's funny about that to me is that that Technology's fairly recent right? I mean when you had your first kids, I didn't have any of that. Yeah, well, I didn't have that either.

My brother and sister, when they were little, we only had the monitors where you can hear. Yeah, you can hear. Yeah, that's all you can hear. So just you're crying and be like, yeah, he's okay. Yeah, and the camera's alive. And the camera's now, they show the temperature of the room. They show night vision, so it's dark,

and you can see everything. It's crazy. Would you feel like, I mean, you have a little bit more control over, but also it controls you more. Like, do you feel that way in terms of like seeing all that stuff versus just hearing a first shot? For sure. I get upset at Katrina because it scares the shit at me because anytime a thump or anything happens, she like sits up in bed and does that sound.

And I'm like, right when I'm like falling asleep. That's the worst. And it joltz me out of bed and I wake up like right away because I'm thinking of adrenaline. Yes. And then I can't go back. I can't go back to sleep for like another hour or two. And I'm like, oh my honey, I was like,

this is, he's gonna bump his head. He's gonna kick the wall. This is gonna happen for a long time. Your psychology is very, you have to understand your psychology. A baby's cry, first of all, the reason why it's so hard to listen to versus other noise, we are wired to not like a baby's cry, to wanna help them, to feel pain or fear when we listen to it.

This is why when you're on a plane with a baby crying, it's like it drives you crazy, because you're having this conflicting feeling, it's not my baby, I can't stand it, please help the baby, make it stop crying, whatever. So when you're doing this conflicting feeling. It's not my baby. I can't stand it. Please help the baby. Make it stop crying, whatever. So when you're doing this with your kid and you're trying to train them to learn how to go to sleep

and they're screaming and crying, and you have a monitor with the speaker on and you're watching them, you're literally torturing the shit at yourself. The best possible is what we had to do. I had to turn it way down. So his cry wasn't super loud on the monitor. And I had to like look at it every once in a while

because here's what happened. I would be like, oh my god, he's been crying for too long. How long has it been? I look at the clock, 10 minutes. It feels like, now. Have you turned it all, I remember I was getting trouble because I would like, you know, try and like, sit the mood.

I was trying to get some, and I would turn the monitor, I was like, all the way off, you know. I'm just like, hey, and the Courtney would just stop and just be like, hey, I thought I heard something. You turned this down. I would, and it'd done.

Yeah. Oh no. No sex for you. My plan. So that's your theory that we're wired that way. That's the reason why the plane thing bothers me so much. I don't think so. I think you're wrong.

No, it's true. It just drives me crazy because I hear my audio book. That's why I'm fucking West. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not like, oh, I want to get up and help this baby. Like, dude, shut this kid up. Oh, you shouldn't be taking him on a six hour flight now. No, it has been proven.

It has been proven that a baby's cry elicits a strong response, especially in women but definitely in men. Well, I know that. I mean, shit, I remember Katrina lactating because some kid was crying in the grocery store here saying like that they're definitely wired and connected that way. Oh, yeah, dude.

So it's like, if you hear them screaming and you're there or it's loud and you're watching them the whole time, oh my God. There's no way you'll be able to do it, no way. And it's funny because he's, you know, he's a baby and we're trying to, and he's getting good at it. Only after one day he's getting good at it. And he's getting more sleep, he's getting better sleep,

but it doesn't matter, right? Even after he falls asleep and he wakes up, you know, I's getting better sleep, but it doesn't matter, right? Even after he falls asleep and he wakes up, you know, I go get him and I'm thinking to myself like, oh man, you know, did I scar him? And he's fine, he's laughing and saying, I'm like, he doesn't even remember. Do you guys have you guys introduced him to Brain Affemia? Yeah, we tried a couple times. Oh, it does work.

Religiously. Yeah, no, that's what you guys do. Oh, that's religiously. That's a, like Katrina will not put him down unless we have all that. When we're driving, we put it on. Oh, yeah. Now the problem with driving and putting it on is I'm the one, I'm getting tired too. It's our drive-out.

Oh yeah. Cause it works. Well yeah, we've actually used it for the kids cause of the, you know, remote learning and whatnot. Like just put, I told Courtney. Oh, focus. It's like I had to remind, that's one of those things that just it works and you forget all about it as a tool. Like cause there's been a lot of times where they're so distracted and I don't want to do this

I'm like dude put that brain of him focus on and you're the one that got me doing that because I didn't I never use the focus and you use the focus I think you use that more I was always using the sleep and then you would come around here You be riding or working and you'd always have it on I'm'm like, you know what, I haven't really tried that. You gotta give it about 10 minutes. So, you put it on. I'm so scatterbrained, dude. It helps me so much.

No, it works. You put it on and then give it about 10 minutes. It doesn't, not right away, but about in about 10 minutes, when you've been listening consistently, especially in headphones, you're just, you're very focused. It's legit. It actually works.

Yeah, it's super funny. So, I, like So Ethan has basically got himself like a little girlfriend and so it's been going back and forth and this whole COVID thing has been great for him. Yeah, he's been able to talk to this girl and so he's now trying to impress her with things and it's so funny to watch. What boys and little men come up with to try and impress girls.

So he just started to dance and he does this little Russian dance where how they squat and then they, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, at some point she said, oh my god, that's so great, look at that. It's so he's been practicing this over and over and I'm like, what are you doing? And he's just like, what the fuck? Look over the house. What the fuck? Why Russian dance?

You know, like, out of any dance, like he chose that one. Because a girl said she like, do we ever grow out of that? I don't think we ever grow out of that. Like if you ask Katrina, she'll tell you like one of her, her favorite, funniest memories of me and her. The one of the first dates memories of me and her. One of the first dates or things that we ever did is I took her up to the snow and we went

up to Dodge Ridge and we went snow by took her snow burns first time she ever ridden. But and I actually don't even remember this, but I definitely don't deny that I would do some stupid shit like this. I made her watch. I didn't make her. I put in my I had a DVD player inside the truck. You know, videos, videos, videos of me wakeboarding. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, what the hell? Hold your ass.

Yeah, bro, 30. You know what I'm saying? I'm 30. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a, check out these sweet moves. Yeah, look at these sweet moves. I can't talk to a shit. I do that with a highlight reel. That's what I put on. See, we don't grow out of it. You don't grow out of it. And if you're a guy, let's see how you're a fucking liar. You're a liar if you don't do something. Oh, dude, I did some embarrassing.

Remember when I did the first, like, it was the sales training I did for trainers, and I did over here at Red Dot. And Jessica came and watched, right? And after we were done, she comes and whispers in my ear, you know, she's like, man, that turned me on the way you were doing that or whatever. After that, I'm always like, hey, babe, how's your schedule look on this day?

Because I'm going to do it in the talk. You're gonna come watch me do it. You're gonna watch me do it. Anytime, especially when you're younger though, if a girl says, well, I like that shirt, or look at those shoes or whatever, guess what you're always gonna wear. The shirt in the shoes is a sin.

I mean, I jumped at the opportunity to, you know, at near 40 years old to play football again with pads on it, everything. Just because I knew she'd never seen me do anything like that before, and I knew it was gonna be, you know, glorious once I was dead. And now did it work? Yeah, of course.

It worked for like months for him afterwards. Does he remember him talking about it? Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah, I was totally like, it came into work glowing like every day for like a month or two. Almost killed himself. Almost killed myself, dude, my hand was thrott was throwing it back to his back seat of his truck

He's rolling around with his shoulder pads and shit back there. So she's wearing my jersey You know it's weird. It's just you know it works comes out of the bathroom. Yeah, hey, babe look at my helmet It's just a little good on me. It's a little mid-drift shirt You know it's fun. I've heard people say this argument that if men weren't so obsessed with like trying to attract women and sleep with women that we would be so Advances a society I completely disagree. I bet you a full 80% of every amazing innovation in invention. It's because You impressed women. 100% dude. I mean that's if you're a super. We would still be cave. You're a super nerd. You're not athletic That's that's your flex. Yeah, that's your flex. We're like flex, we're like, to show how smart you are. So it ain't no different.

No, it's not. Because I'm seriously, if guys were just like, didn't even care, we'd be, we'd still be cave people. I don't care, let's go hunt. Yeah, I'm chill over here, scratch my beard. Yeah, I gotta clean my load. Whatever, anyway, that kills me. But hey, so I was reading article,

I feel like more and more Sci-fi movie plots are real life. Like old Minions reality. Yeah, like old movie plots and will are actually happening right now too So at the San Diego I think it's a San Diego Zoo They just injected a bunch of chimpanzees and apes with an experimental COVID vaccine. So What see what happened? Does that feel like a movie? This will prevent them could go around. So, what? See what happens? No, let's see it. Does that feel like a movie? It does.

This will prevent them. Well, I could go wrong. Let's see what happens. It's giving them, you know, experimental vaccine. When did they do this? They just did it. Oh, wow. Yeah, they just did it recently.

So I don't get it. I mean, monkeys are way physically dominant. We just, don't make them smart. They just turn into bigfoot. Yeah. Yeah, no, fuck us up. Did you see that uh Texas pulled the uh no mass yeah they did it did that no so many Californians

were moving over there they're like we need to get a shit yeah that was hilarious no so I saw too I got an email Florida Florida and Mississippi is funny everybody oh Mississippi a who cares. Hey, who cares? Yeah, I care. Did they, uh, so wait a second. Wait, uh, the gyms. So you guys see the gyms here are now open. They are, I think limited capacity. Okay. So that's what I, so I indoors. Yeah. You have to schedule an appointment for indoor. I'm 10%. Is that true? I don't know. If it's 10% or 20% I need you on the Google map, Google over here. I know you're trying to look at cameras and so on that, but I need you.

Well, I thought we were rocking and rolling. Like I saw I got the email and then I had friends that were posting about it. Like it's on back to the gym. This and that. I'm like, oh, cool. My gym's back open. And then I was talking to a client of mine and she said,

oh, yeah, 10% Adam. She goes, so if you hold your gym, hold 100 members, 10 people with me. I'm like, oh, what? Yeah. Is it really 10%? I I mean what do they consider the capacity? What's the number gyms are always small capacity like I burn out gym which is one of the bigger gyms around here Yeah, I think I think I've seen the capacity signs like 200 and something to know way at a time Yes, so you have 20 people working out. Yes. Yes. Well, so I know that other who I think you have see Jim

Didn't they take the approach where they're gonna charge a lot more to kind of service that market to reduce the, maybe eventually? I feel like that's probably the way to go. I mean, let's see what happens, right? Because you have states like Texas and Florida loosening up or opening up fully. And here's a cool thing, you can compare states

in Florida, California, in Texas, there's similar enough to where you could see what's working and what's not working. And I mean, infection rates and stuff are worse in California. I love how people get mad at that. It's like, look, if you don't live there, why are you even mad?

Because, you know, let them figure it out. Yeah, exactly. And then, yeah, yeah. And then if they're right, then, you know, you got no leg to stand on. Well, dude, Gavin Newsom, right? Governor, California is like, oh, it's reckless, you know, for Texas. Oh, he got roasted.

He did. Somebody retweeted that with a picture of him when he went to the restaurant. He was sitting inside when nobody else could. Yeah, yeah. I haven't voted that moron out yet. He's still there. I don't know where he did. We can't get him out.

No, they're doing, they're doing a cockroach. I think they're doing the think they reach the amount of votes that they need for the recall. They have, but here's the course, now. They're going through it like crazy to match up the signatures and make sure everybody's like, the gym is. Wow, they're putting that much effort into it.

Of course, the course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, 25% capacity. Oh, 25%. Which teams in dance and yoga studios at 10%. Oh, you're, oh, shit. You dance class, Justin, that's great. Oh, good% yeah, which is in dance and yoga studios at 10% oh, you're oh shit You dance class Justin. That's great. Yeah, I'm back Zumba doesn't Zumba shake them hips. Let's go What did I get cakes and weights class? Yeah, cakes and weights and crush

I should do it heavy weights and cakes is a is the class well I mean this is good for the gym for the gym industry, but I mean, 10% is gonna be pretty hard. I don't know. They got hit so hard, how are they gonna come back? I don't know. Well, I mean, I feel like if they made it this far, if you made it this far, then you might be okay. I mean, because I predict it's only gonna get better.

Well, the vaccines, the mRNA vaccines, right? The, what are the companies that do that? Moderna and, was the other Pfizer? The Pfizer. Okay, so those vaccines, I thought Johnson and Johnson was doing, they did a new one. They did, right? So the ones that have been out, right? The mRNA vaccines, the ones with the,

the mRNA goes into your, the one that sells, they're gonna mutate you in five years. No, that's not the one that sells they're gonna mutate you in five years. No, it doesn't. No, that's not the so. But they're they're remarkable. Ningen Turtles fucking stop. Stop. Stop. I'm Michelangelo.

Yeah, whatever. Why do I want to buy Microsoft products? What the hell? No, the remarkably effective, extremely effective at preventing COVID and, you know, spread and all that stuff. Like insanely protective. And so far, the safety is actually also remarkable. The problem is you don't know long-term effects.

We won't know that for years. There's no way to test that unless, you know, we just, so I'm like totally not following any of this. I'm like over all of it. I'm over the conversations that my buddy still want to have. I'm like, I'm so done with all this stuff. Yeah. What is going, I've heard that it's mutating and changing

anyway, so some of these vaccines don't even matter. You take a vaccine and then it's gonna take a- No, they're still pretty damn effective towards all the new variants. But they're so seriously, like they're, like 90-something percent protection, which is incredible for a vaccine. Now Johnson and Johnson,

your 99% safe from all right. Well, it's gotta be pretty good. But honestly, still can get very sick and awesome, stop it at him. Now here and Johnson, you're 99% safe from all right. Well, you've got to be pretty good. Well, still can get very sick and all that stuff. Stop it at them. Now here's here's here's the other thing. Uh, so, so the problem with those vaccines is they require two doses and they require, they need to be stored at extremely cold temperatures, the hard to transport. So it's, they're not super easy, right? Johnson and Johnson just came out with a vaccine. You don't need to store it at this ridiculously cold temperature.

You don't have to have special refrigeration units. And it's only one shot. Now, the difference is the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I believe is 66 or 70% effective, which is still good by vaccine standards. And I believe it's the old way that they did vaccine. So it's not an mRNA vaccine. It's like a more traditional one.

So for people who are afraid or worried about the new breakthrough ones, Johnson and Johnson is another option. And they're easier to administer or whatever. So it's pretty cool. I think California has already reached like 20% of the population has been vaccinated already. Yeah, yeah, which is pretty big. I like you, I'm going to continue to stir the pot and piss dug off right now. So I think that you started some shit on the forum and I think it's best to hear it's a good time

Yeah, I'd like to hear you defend yourself where you have a platform and you can talk because it you dropped kind of a bomb And they're just a just a I think probably stir stuff up and get conversation By the way, that's what the private forum is for you want to get on to virtual stuff You got to go to the blindfold private forum you could sign up and then and then you get to hear I'm really trying to avoid it You got to go to the blindfold private forum. You could sign up and then you get to hear uncensored. Normally you're trying to avoid it, but it's sad like the drop bombs. Yeah, yeah.

So I mean, you said something in there. You were basically comparing the WAP song, winning the song of the year. And then meanwhile, Dr. Su's six books are pulled off the shelves. Yeah. Explain how you can compare the two of them. So that was the defense right right now. You I see there's a lot of people that are up and arms that are coming after you right now.

I think it's a sign of the lack of objective morality that we have as a society. Okay, so here's the thing it's very important to have as a society at least a strong sense of objective common morality. Especially when you have so many different cultures and so many different types of people. at least a strong sense of objective common morality, especially when you have so many different cultures and so many different types of people. Otherwise, we're gonna be totally screwed. And what's happening is the goal post continues to move, the standard continues to change.

It's so, it's moral relativism. Yes, you don't know where the end of it is. And it's just gone to a point where I just I don't even know What people think is right wrong? 2017 Obama in videos was talking about how amazing Dr. Suis books were they're all incredible or whatever now, you know six of his six of the books They pulled it themselves because they're like they see where things are going and they're like publisher dead Yes, not the not yeah, that's who pulled it pulled it yeah because they're looking at the actual estate i believe

i believe i think i do you find that i don't find that surprising at all i mean we talked so for the audience it doesn't have a preemptive you have your book coming right you got your book coming around the corner we wanted to have more of a controversial type of of of cover and you couldn't even get it passed by the publisher we couldn't put we couldn't put a fat person on a treadmill no no that was just no. That was just fat shaming. They did, they said that. That's ridiculous.

Well, so what I'm saying is what I would have said, and I, okay, I get that culture changes, but what's happening is we're viewing everything through this really interesting lens, and we're not being consistent with it, because like you said, and by the way, I'm against censorship completely. So, yeah, what ass pussy, right?

I think that song is insane, ridiculous, I think it's whatever, but I also think fine, it exists. If you wanna listen to it, go ahead, if you don't. And the argument is that man of the making songs just as bad for many, many years. Or so live crew. And yeah, right, exactly. Me so horny, like that.

But my point is that our standards are very interesting when it comes to some of this stuff. For example, here's another one, you open this candle worms atom, so this is your fault, right? So, yeah, no. You have, that is madameen. You have the controversy with Coca-Cola training saying how to be less white

and you have a lot of people saying things about white people. You confirm that by the way? I just, I can't. Yeah, it's all over the place. It is, okay. And that is, I mean, that's objectively racist, right? But the definition of racism has now changed so much that according to some people, you can't be racist

against white people only against certain, this is a tough, a new ideology. I see, I don't let it trigger me though. I just, I think it's actually comical. It is. But my, because I like, I want someone to explain to me how I'd be less white. Well, there's no logic behind it. That's what, that's what I mean.

It's inconsistent. Where am I some braille to work for now on? Or what? Well, logic and reason are white traits here. But what I'm saying is it's just, it's changing, you know, the goal post keeps moving so fast. And it's just so insane that it's like,

we're okay, where do we stand? You know what I mean? I mean, Dr. Sus books were written a long time ago. There's almost nothing that opinions didn't match at all. It's just kind of funny too, because then you see, you go back and you'll see like the Obama administration. And then they're basically taking all these people

in and explaining to them, they can learn all the life lessons from Dr. Seuss books. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, oh, that's your say. Yeah, it's just inconsistent is my point. And that's your say. Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's inconsistent as my point. And you need, and here's, I'll give you an example, okay, in the, in the, in the early days of America, we had open borders, essentially, they were pretty open.

You could come here, if you come here, and you land on our shores, you're here, right? And lots of people came from all over the world, but especially from Europe, the poor disenfranchised from Europe came here and we all got along and the country flourished, but here's why. There was a common objective morality. Now, before you think to yourself, because it's a very ignorance thought that I'll clarify, before you think to yourself, yeah, they were all white people. Okay. Irish people in the 19, you know the early 1900s, late 1800s, Italians, Germans,

very different from each other. I mean, Europe almost destroyed itself twice in two world wars. You ask an Italian from 1900, if they have anything in common with Irish or German, they look at you and be like, what are you talking about? Very, very different,

that they all came here. The reason why such different people were able to get along, work together in the country grew and exploded was because everybody had this common belief and freedom and liberty. Very strong. Okay, you do your thing over there. I don't agree with it. You're not hurting me. Just don't take my stuff. Don't hurt me. Don't force me to do anything. And we'll do our own thing. It's like we're okay with differences. Yes. But you have to have a common base for that to work otherwise you're screwed. So this is why I'm okay with, I mean,

I think the publisher getting involved in doing that, I think it's a little ridiculous. I think if you're a school and that was part of your curriculum and then that's been brought to your attention that there's books in here that seem racist or whatever, then by all means stop them in circulation. Then we don't teach out of those six. If we use Dr. Seuss as part of our curriculum

and you feel that way going forward, then just don't use those books anymore. But to try and say it'll never be published again and erase it is silly. And all it's gonna really do, which by the way, kudos to me for buying the Dr. Seuss collection last year. Yeah, I think it was books that were like, you could sell them for like a thousand or two thousand dollars

on the internet. That's why I just laughed about it. I was like, this is hilarious. I know, I know. Well, that's the other part of it. That's the other part of it. The other part of it for me is just looking at the corporations and like how now, this seems to be a button for them

to almost hope that something of theirs gets banned. Or yeah, it gets canceled somehow because then the other side of that, man, they get mega sales because of everybody. I feel like you just, it gets like canceled somehow because then the other side of that man they get mega sales because of everybody. I feel like it's just massive virtue signaling from the publisher. Look at us, look what we're doing. You know what I'm saying. We're not letting, I mean even like what we dealt with with the cover. I just, that's what I feel like it is. It's like come on, get out of here with that. Yeah. I think you had people choose to not just the same, why I was okay with the the analogy that you gave is because it's the same thing.

Like if you're a parent and you don't want your kids to read those, totally understand that. Don't buy them. Don't buy them. Don't read them. The same way you don't let your probably 12 year old daughter listen to WAP or you're a bad parent. I also think this, I think it's important to teach your kids context.

So I could read this to my kid and if I really think that this is a racist depiction of Asian people, for example, one of the books, they're saying it's very stereotypical, it depictions of Asian people. By the way, all cartoons are caricatures. That's how cartoons are, but our standards change, and I get that. So let's say that you're a parent, you're reading the book, you can tell your kid, oh, you know, in those days. Yes. Back then. And back then.

And back then, this is kind of how people were. It's, we obviously were different now, but the story's really good. Teach your kids contacts because it's history. Yeah, this is my issue, as I see that going all the way from like renaming everything and like washing everything of the past away. What are we gonna learn from?

Like what are we gonna teach our kids that, like, this is how people did those things back then, and this is what I don't agree with when they did that. But to not even expose that to them, like, how are they gonna then become a better person if they're not introduced with old shitty ideas? No, they have to. It's that whole thing that I told you guys,

that was just reading in that book, it's safetyism. That's what everyone's pushing like that, and hopes that we're gonna protect, protect have to, it's that whole thing that I told you guys that I was just reading in that book is it's safetyism. That's what everyone's pushing with that and hopes that we're gonna protect, protect, protect, but then you don't prepare them for real life. You know, I've been pairing them for life. Because in real life, you're gonna face all those things. And as a parent, if you can't have that conversation with your kid, like say, you know,

for say my kid's reading Dr. Seuss, because I love Dr. Seuss and it gets to an age. And, you know, I don't even know what, you said it's like it's an Asian character Asian character in the in a book and one of them in particular there's there's a couple things but there were like you know Asian cartoon characters and it was a stereotype of what you would think that they would do with an Asian character in those days right yeah but again you got to teach your kids context and you explain to them and this is the but and this is

why the funny part is I don't even think a kid would even ask that I that's the thing that's I think you're think a kid would even ask that. That's the thing. I think you're bringing attention to something that they probably wouldn't even think twice. I think a kid today, honestly, this is the truth. I think a kid today growing up now four-year-old, five-year-old, wouldn't even recognize that it was a stereotype of an Asian person. I think they would see it and not even know that. But we're so freaked out about it.

Yeah, I told you guys, I don't know if I share this on the podcast, that's why I got really irritated with my niece who's 30 and she's like on this bandwagon like this too and she was asking my little nephew who's an eighth grader, how diverse is friends were? He didn't even understand the question, you know? And like, all of a sudden you're bringing light to something like this.

And you should've seen the look on his face, like he was so confused, like he doesn't look at it in any of his friends by their race and their color, any of that stuff. And he's got a very diverse, he lives in fucking San Jose. Yeah, how could you not? Yeah, it's almost impossible to have like, oh, a group of only one race friends right here. It's not impossible, okay, that's an over-generalization,

but very hard to do. And he doesn't even, his mind doesn't even think that way. You know, he's only in eighth grade and he grew up in a time where that, we're just like, are they cool? Are they friends with me? He had asked for like a couple of times and she had explained it in detail. You don't even in a time where that was just like, are they cool? Are they friends with me? He had asked for like a couple of times and she had explained it in detail.

You only have black friends, you have Asian friends, you have other, and he's like, oh, oh, yeah. Well, and then he starts naming who's who, like that, and she's like, oh, good job. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like, why do you even bring that to his attention at that age? You know what, okay, so here's the truth, okay?

If you're a couple, you know, two or three generations deep in America. So you're not an immigrant, you're a couple, you know, two or three generations deep in America. So you're not an immigrant, you're not a child of immigrants, maybe your grandparents, or especially if you're great grandparents or before, were immigrants. You, here's the diversity that you actually should pay attention to, diversity of ideas.

Because if you're three or four generations deep in America and you, let's say, grew up in San Jose, California, the Bay Area, and let's just say you happen to be white and your friend happens to have darker skin and another friend happens to be red head or whatever, you're all pretty much the same otherwise. Besides the difference color in skin,

the real difference is the diversity of ideas. It's not that the skin color and stuff, you've all grew up and raised here, your parents all brought you here, you're all in the Bay area, you all probably think the same, why not seek out diversity of ideas? And the way the best way to do that

is to take your opinion, this is something I tell my son, especially, you have an opinion, that's wonderful. I like that you have opinions of things. Now seek out an opposing opinion, see if your opinion stands, see if it holds up and stands the test of logic and reason and debate in a civil manner.

That will make you more diverse in the most important way, what you get. I think it's diversity of ideas. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, let's talk about fitness. Oh yeah, definitely. Geez, finally. I had to, come on, here's the thing too.

This is what's in, it's in the news right now. It's all over the place. Everybody is talking about the Dr. Sustain, the WAP thing just came out right now. So for us to not discuss it and talk about it, I think it would be, it would be lame not to, too. Yeah, definitely. All right, so I wanted to bring up a topic.

I thought was kind of interesting. We talked about this in the past, but I do get comments on this, or DMs I should say, And this is where people will ask why some of their body parts develop so much faster than others. And I think definitely, this is what's interesting. You definitely have your general genetic,

pre-sposition for how you respond to exercise. But then within that, there seems to be a pretty wide difference in certain body there seems to be a pretty wide, you know, difference in certain body parts seem to be genetically very, you know, responsive and others that seem to be much less. Isn't that kind of interest? Very string. Like for me, my upper legs, right, my quads, my hamstrings, they respond like, the rest of my body's even come close to responding like my upper, my upper leg. And the more I throw up my like, the rest of my body is gonna come close to responding like my upper leg. And the more I throw up my legs, the more they respond.

I can't do that with everything else. You guys are like that too. You know, I, you know, I think everybody is, right? Everybody has that. And isn't the prevailing theory on that that you've got, that's one of the best neurological connections that you have, right? Your body is best connected to that muscle

more than almost any other muscle, and that's why it responds. You know, I wonder if it's, I think that might be part of it, but I also think there may be like an actual, like if you did a biopsy and you look, there may be more fast, which muscle fibers are maybe more, you know, higher density of that.

Well, yeah, epigenetic stuff comes into play here, right? You had, let's say, your, your, Isn't that also the environment? Like, so if you're introducing it, like, you know, when younger for say, I was really into bench pressing, and so my chest developed more so than, I didn't do as many leg specific exercise.

So my chest to this day still responds just from barely doing anything. Well, that speaks to my point. That's the neurological point. You've trained your brain to fire that muscle so well, so efficiently for so many years. It's my arms are that way because I over train the shit out of them as a young kid. It's like what I cared about the most.

Yeah, and so now it's played into my favor. I don't have to hardly ever train them if I touch them a little bit. They respond really well, but they weren't initially. Yeah, I think that plays a role, but I think there's something else too, because you talked about bench press, Justin. I think, okay, in our, when we started working out, especially when, you know, in the mid 90s, when I started working out, bench press was the exercise.

Like, if you did, yeah, that's why I focused. If you worked out, you benched. Yeah, everybody asked that question. That was the measure of strength. I bench press a lot. I bet you have done more bench press sets than you have, just because I started at such a young age. Yeah, your, your chest and shoulders respond much better

than mine do. There's a, there's also another component. Ligs, yes, your chest and shoulders respond much better than mine, dude. There's also another component. Ligs, yes, I work out my legs, but I'm in no way, dude, have I worked out my upper legs as much as my body? Yeah, but I want to challenge that there, too, because I think that I did bench press like crazy, but I will admit that I didn't do bench press well

for a long time. For a very long time, I did not have a chest at all. It wasn't until my late 20s, did I really get and understand how to activate my chest and work my chest out. And up into that point, I didn't get a lot of development. Sure, again, I think that plays a role, but again, I'll counter that.

I bet you, Justin, has 10% of the time, he's bench press, bench press to fuel his chest, and 90% to maximize the leverage and the lift. He's an athlete. He trained for performance and strength. Which I know. Well, it's got to be both factors. I mean, more you guys talk about it because it's obviously like I'm unlocking something

that I had potential there. I had greater potential in, you know, developing my chest just by focusing on it, you know, and then, you know, because I haven't had the same response, you know, certain other body parts like my biceps for instance. Well, yeah, there's definitely a part that's passed down from your parents, for sure. Yeah. And your parents parents, you know, if you have a long line of family that maybe squatted all the time and lived to, and they have, I mean, you probably have that more so than

probably my family. I'm sure that's where some of that comes from too. So I think, I think it's a combination of the genetics that have been passed down by your family that you already have, you already have the propensity to respond to that better than most people. And then in addition to that, you also have a great connection.

It's just very interesting because there's other things too. For example, do you guys find, and I think there's this is some general truths here, but I think there's also individual variants. Do you guys find that some of your body parts respond better to higher reps and other body parts respond better to lower reps? Have you found that for yourself?

Sure, yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah. Like I can definitely lift lower reps for my legs and get very strong, but if I want them to blow up, 15 reps, you know, 12 reps, 20 reps, then my legs really explode. Not true for my back, my back, heavy, heavy, five, six,

seven, eight reps and it just grows. If I go 15, 20 reps, not so much. Very interesting. Well, I also think this is why training is so nuanced too, because I think there's such a massive individual variance, which is also why, as much as I love what we do, and we try and coach and help people as much as we can virtually

you know nothing beats having a coach that's got his eyes on you watching you train and develop and listening to you respond to them watching how you respond to things and then adjusting okay Do you guys have a body part or area that you like feel like you almost can't over train like you just train the Shad of it and it seems recover really easy versus other area that you're like, oh, this can easily over train. Do you guys have anything like that? I can hammer my arms like crazy. Yeah, and again, I think that's just because I've trained them to be able to handle that much volume.

I over trained the shit out of them for so many years as a kid that now, I mean, it's rare to get my, it's very, I have to leave my arms alone for an extended period of time. You actually did when you were competing. Yeah. You almost didn't train your own. Yeah, yeah. I backed off of them a lot because they were, oh, I didn't want them to overpower my shoulders,

you know, in my chest. So, yeah, you know, there's, I have to be careful. Now, if I haven't trained them for several weeks and then I train them, I'll get sore. But man, if I've been training my arms for a couple of weeks in a row consistently, it's tough to get them sore. Yeah, very strange, right?

Now, speaking of recovery, the red light, the Juve light, I've been using it now pretty consistently on areas of my body that seem a little bit inflamed or whatever. I had the inside of my right elbow was that way for a little while, and then I had my left shoulder in the back. And so I'm just targeting those areas consistently, And it makes it, it's actually so weird. Speaking of jub, I want you both to, I did this. And I think it was after we heard, I think Dave Aspery was the one that shared this.

I think it was where I heard it first. I don't remember where I was. Where's son Holger butt? No, was that what you're doing? You've seen that, right? It is not what I'm recording. Yeah, son, not what I'm recording. That's it.

I heard him, I don't remember what podcast it was. I think it was him. Talk about, you know, red light. And this, I think this was before we were working with you. And the way he tested it out was he trained the shit out of his legs and he only did red light there, feeling like one leg. And I mean, that's a real good way.

Get really sore in a body part. And just do one side. And just do one side and be consistent with it and see what you notice. I did that and I noticed a difference. So I want you guys to do it so you guys can confirm with me. I'm afraid to get in balance. I don't want to like one side.

Oh shit. It wasn't that dramatic. It definitely wasn't like one side was way sore. The other side it wasn't sore at all. It's like, let me tell you, it's not that magical. We were talking about like, when you talk about tools like this, we're talking about small percentages of a different type. But noticeable. Yeah, but noticeable. I noticed it. To me, it was enough for me to realize, oh, wow, it was a lot tighter, a lot more. Well, in the past, in order to get red light

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that show that they work, in the past they were so outlandish and they were only commercial products. But then, you know, now companies like Juve, you could buy one for your... In fact, did you guys see the newer one, the smaller one that they have? Yeah, it's like portable one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's portable, then it has like a little mount that you can put it on like by your computer

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will primarily burn sugar and carbs while longer walks will primarily burn fat? Okay, yes, that's true, but no, it's not what you think it is. Okay, so here's what's true, right? When you're doing cardiovascular activity or any activity, you are burning energy and the first type of energy that your body will burn is in the form of stored carbohydrates.

Once that starts to get burned up and used and believe it or not, you have a small supply of that in your body in comparison to the supply of fat that you have that you can burn for energy. Once that is burned up, then your body starts to burn fat for energy. Now here's why it's not what you think. It's not what you think because just because

your body's burning fat for energy, doesn't mean you're gonna get leaner later if you're still in a calorie surplus. If you're in a calorie surplus, it just replaces it and it doesn't make any difference. I mean, keto, for example, ketogenic diet, you have no carbohydrates in your diet, you're running off of ketones, which is fat,

theoretically you're burning fat all the time. That's how they love the market it, too. Can you gain body fat on keto or can you not lose weight on keto or lose body fat on keto? Absolutely. Calorie deficit is necessary for fat loss, regardless of how much cardio you do and whether you're burning sugar carbs or... And the real benefit of comparison here is that

a longer walk is going gonna burn more calories. Yeah. So if I had to compare a 30 minute walk versus somebody who walked for 90 minutes, well the person who walked 90 minutes is gonna burn more fat. That's right. Because they walked longer.

And they burned more calories, which will then help them be in a more of a calorie deficit than the other person. Yeah, you cannot get around the, this is a rule. This is a law. Okay. You can't get around the, this is a rule. This is a law, okay? You can't get around the, it's a law of thermodynamics and physics where you must take in less calories

and you burn in order for your body to search for fuel from itself to burn. If you're eating more calories in your burning, or same amount of calories you're burning, your body's not gonna, what's it, first off, if it, let's say you're eating more calories in your burning or same amount of calories you're burning your body's not gonna What's it first off if it let's say you're eating more calories in your burning and your body burned calories from it's stored fat Well, where do those extra calories go right those I have to go somewhere in other words Energy cannot be created nor destroyed it gets transferred it turns into other things and so you can't get around that

So you have to be in a deficit to burn body fat. And you could do all the mixing things around, the magic you want, supplements and all that stuff. But if that's not happening, you're not gonna lose body fat. Yeah, at the end of the day, that's all it matters. I mean, people will deplete themselves a glycogen and then do these crazy intensive workouts and everything just to get, quote unquote,

burning through all the sugar and everything else to then the rest of the day, try to burn fat. but if the calories, if you're still in a surplus, like it's all wash. Well, and yeah, somebody who, for average people, this is the type of content I can't stand, like it's, it gets spread in our space. It's like, for the average person, this is so splitting hair difference type of conversation. It's like focus on bill, you know, you know, you know, it'll help better than all this? Build five pounds of conversation. It's like focus on, you know what, you know what, you know what, it'll help better than all this? Build five pounds of muscle. That's it.

You want a Trump walking for 30 minutes or an hour or short walks versus long walks. Like go build that burning material. That's right, go build five pounds of muscle on your body, okay, which by the way, five pounds of muscle distributed amongst your entire body looks like nothing. It won't look as big as your entire.

It's just tighter. Yes. And your body will naturally on its own, you know, burn more calories, burn more body fat than any of those walks will. Next question is from Blower 18. How can you know how good your muscle building genes are? Rist, ankle and neck measurements? And what would be good measurements as opposed to bad?

Okay. There's so many. I've heard of this now, like, how accurate. Okay, so there's... Okay, so they did some... And I can't remember the site, but they did some calculations of what they believed to be some of the best natural bodybuilders of all time and what their top measurements were. And then they correlated them to their wrist ankle, I think wrist wrist and ankle measurement or wrist ankle and weight.

Or something like that. And then they said, okay, this is the, based off of these people, this would be your upper genetic limit to how much muscle you could build. Now, here's why that's super general. There's so many factors that go into your ability to build muscle.

For example, I'll give you one example, right? So one might say your testosterone level, it might play a role in how much muscle you can build. Well, they might. It will. Well, they just did a study on the slide. I said that. It does play a role, but here's why it's not that easy. Okay. They just did a study that showed that testosterone levels didn't play that big of a role in how much muscle two groups of men built, what played a bigger role was Androgen Receptor density. The Androgen Receptors are what testosterone attaches to. So in other words, if you have 600, if your testosterone measures at 600, but you have incredible Androgen density, you get nowhere to park on.

Well, no, you have great Androgen density. Right. Someone else has 900 testosterone, but their androgen density is terrible. The 600 might actually be more impactful on muscle building. So there's hormone levels, there's androgen density, there's muscle fiber breakdown and density, there's myostan, myostan is a thing that we learned about over last 10 years that controls muscle and you turn that switch off in the body, just builds tons of muscle. There's muscle belly length.

And there's so many factors. It's very, I mean, could I look at someone just without working out and say that they probably could be- Be predictive with it? Yeah, somewhat, but sometimes I can't. Like, I've known people who were, you'd look at and you'd think, that's an ectomorph.

I've known this in gyms. And then they work out and they just build muscle so easily. And're like, well, I just feel like this is always the case with the fitness industries trying to, you know, catalog all of this and try and simplify everything. So you could basically, you could have these general standards. So where do I fit? And then that way, you can get marketed to and like kind of shuttled into products or different type of training methods or Nutrition and they've done this with some auto types and they've done kind of generalizations that people sort of Identifying relate with and so it's like You know something that kind of seems like it's logical, but again

These are so generalized that there's no way you can be that accurate when you're predicting these. Well, there's so many variables, right? There's so many variables with that. But in my experience, I would say that a majority of my clients that had big wrist, big ankles, big bones, basically is what you're big bone, had an easier time building muscle, but a harder time burning body fat,

and the same is true on the other end, right? So my clients that had really small wrists, really small ankles, tend to have a harder time building muscle, but had an easier time burning fat. Now, there's always an exception to the rule on both sides of that. There's many other variables that trump that,

like your testosterone talk, your discipline, how about your behaviors and discipline too? How about somebody who doesn't have as much potential to build muscle so they had to build more work ethic and discipline around nutrition? And because of that, they have a better lifestyle and habits and now see more results. There's always something to counter that argument, but generally speaking, and it's a total overgeneralization, I do think that most of my clients that were big-boned had a harder time burning body fat than like are, you might quote unquote,

ectomorph type of clients. And then you also have the question about measurements, what are good measurements? I mean, do you care what the tape measure says or do you care about how you look? Like a really lean 16 inch arm on a guy is impress- and natural, right? Is impressive to most people.

Most people, if you saw a man with a lean muscular 16 inch arm, that would look more impressive than a guy with an 18 inch arm whose body fat is, you know, 18% body fat, right? It just doesn't look as good. So that's one of those things as well. Now I can answer and say, what would be considered like really muscular lean?

For most, and this is just for my experience of reading, for years and years about lifters and this and that. For men, if you're natural and you get your arms up to 17 or 18 inches, that's a lean, relatively lean. That's a big ass arm. That's a very big arm, natural. The 20 inches, that usually comes from super genetics and anabolic steroids.

But again, I mean, it's so different from person to person. And getting lean, I've done this. I've lost 15 pounds, worked out, and everybody comes up to me and says, oh my gosh, how did you gain so much muscle? I didn't, the difference is, I look like I gained a bunch of muscle because I'm so much lighter.

Well, exactly, each pose of the pros and cons, right? So each side has, like if you're bigger bone, your arms may naturally look bigger or put on muscle easier, but, like, so I mean, my wrist and ankles are like a 13 year old girl. So I have like these tiny little petite, freaking wrists and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, more exaggerated than the guy that had the boxier square waist and the thicker wrist and the thing.

He may even have more muscle, but when you look at it and we present it on stage, I look better for those reasons. So, you know, they all have their pros and cons. I think getting hung up on, you know, is it easier for me or harder for me or is it better to have this or that? You know, there was an old body, but this is like from back in the dead, say in the 19, it's probably the 1930s, there was a standard for balance that they used, and they used to say that your arm, and they actually used to do this to see if their body was balanced, your arm, your neck, and your calf measurement need to be the same. If your arm, neck and calf measurement are the same, then you, back to those standards, back then,

you are balanced. You have a balanced physique. Kind of interesting. Yeah. Next question is from Forever Strong Cairo. I'm an old husband and just want to look and feel like I can still fuck shit up. Hey. What program will help with that?

Oh, boy. Strong. Yeah. That okay. So it depends. I feel like map strong. Map strong is for building just impressive muscle and strength. It is very effective. It's funny. We came out with that program and it was a sleeper. We don't realize so many people would like it. And it's one of our most positively commented super underrated super underrated because right away you think strong man competition and you automatically do it. Everybody does naturally, which is I don't identify with a strong man. I have no desire to look like them. I have no desire to keep it being that so you don't go get that program. You don't follow that. But that type of training. Yeah, you want to fuck shit up like. I mean, the work sessions that are in there,

the type of lifts that you're doing, the upper back development that you're getting from it. So, you're lifting awkward things and in different positions that are more relatable to actual objects you're gonna pick up in life and trees and rocks and shifting bags and all that kind of stuff. So, it really preps you for that.

So I would agree with you guys with that. My other suggestion would have been, you know, performance just because you could move, you know, explosively and fluidly in which, you know, turns you into a badass, in my opinion. Yeah, and here's, okay, and they just want to look at a static and split. Yeah.

I'm saying, which I like that, you know, I'm going to want to, all show no go. I'm saying, like, I look like a fuck know true all show no go I'm saying like I look like a **** **** up. I look like I say that look like a **** up. I'm saying but I wasn't racing and beaten nobody anywhere. No, and okay and of course it needs to be appropriate for you right so if you're a beginner then maybe map strong wouldn't be the best program for you. You might do like a map Santa Bologna. He's not I know who he is.. Oh, you do? Yeah, no, he's a very experienced lifter. Yeah, I agree with you then. And he understands mobility very well.

So he's a definitely a better character. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, you know, he's smart. I spend a couple of our talks and stuff like that. So he knows what the hell he's doing. I definitely would push him in the direction of strong. I think strong is probably the way to go. Next question is from Pat of Blunk.

Why do most calories and macro calculators still use the old school 1 gram per pound of body weight and even above 1.2 grams while cutting, when most recent studies show no benefits for muscle building or fat loss and going above 0.7 grams per pound? Okay, it is true that studies show that you don't derive any extra muscle building benefits from eating more than around 0.7 grams of protein per body weight. However, is it per body weight or is it per kilogram of muscle? No, no, no, no, it's per pound of body weight. When they use kilogram, then it's a different, it's a different. See, I feel like that's the metric that uses 0.7 to 0.8 is when they're talking about kilograms. No, that's the old crappy one.

These are studies that show high protein, you know, build muscles. Because I know Lane shared a study while back that there's some benefits to the upper limits of up to 1.5. Well, here's where the benefits I think most of them come from because there's a lot of studies that have been done on this, okay? And yeah, you can find the outlier studies, but the vast majority of them in the consensus is roughly 0.7 grams of protein per pound of body weight, anything more than that,

and you don't derive any more muscle building benefits. Does that mean you're not gonna get any more benefits? Not necessarily because here's something that protein provides. By the way, it has to be appropriate for you. What I mean by that is some people eat too much protein and it messes up their digestion. If that's you, don't go in this direction, okay? That will make your gains.

Bad digestion will mess you up more than anything else. But if you're cool with it, eating more protein has this benefit right here. You might not build more muscle, but boy, is it an appetite suppressant? Out of all the macronutrients, protein is very, very satisfying. So if you're trying to drop body fat,

it helps a lot to eat a lot of protein. You're less likely to overeat. I also think it's really tough. For most people, unless you weigh a buck 15, it's really tough to hit a one to one. And so if you're targeting one or 1.5, or probably fall short, but you'll be good.

Exactly. Some days you're gonna fall short and you're gonna be just fine and maybe even days you go way lower, 0.6, but then the next day you hit 1.2 or 1.5 and it all, because it's so funny, we look at everything in these like small control groups and studies and the day is 24 hours, like the body doesn't work that way.

It doesn't know the difference of day 25 or 29. So it's over the course of a longer period of time of that. The reality is most people, not bodybuilders, most average clients that I trained under consumed protein. I always like to push them to one to one. Even though I know that 0.7 is all they need, I'm pushing them in the direction of one to one because I know that they're gonna fall short some days.

It's not easy. As of the you know, as of the other day, I weighed about 211, 212 pounds. I don't eat 212 grams of protein a day. That's a lot. I eat probably 160 to 170 grams of protein. And that's me chasing protein. I mean, you know, 200, how many chicken breasts would be 200 grams of protein?

Not to mention that I think there's a lot of benefit. And some days you actually hitting 250 and then another day you only hitting 50. Yeah. So we've talked about this before. I think where this you get in trouble is you're hitting these numbers of, you know, two gram above 1.5 to two and you're one of those guy competitors who is weighing it, measuring it every day and consuming that or above. And you've now, you've married this.

The average person that's just kind of trying to figure out, like, oh, where should my protein be? Targeting a number, like, I want to find. Wasn't there, like, I think I remember back when a lot of these biohackers were trying to really press the fact that, you know, more than 0.7, and like, you're gonna get into, like, kind of, like, cancerous, type of, mouth through the M-Tore pathway, and all this kind of cancerous type of amount

through the M-Tor pathway and all this kind of stuff that they're proposing in terms of it being carcinogenic at a certain point. Yeah, so when they start to make the cancer arguments it's silly because in a pro-cancer environment, okay, so you're unhealthy. Pro-cancer is you gonna make the case for every macronutrient?

Yes, if you're inflamed, you have, this was big for a while. Precamps are cells going on, you're not healthy. And then you have a tumor that's growing in your body, and you eat a lot of protein or a lot of carbs. You're going to fuel it. You're going to fuel the growth of the cancer. Less so fat, but yeah, not even fat. Now, if you're healthy, then you're fine. You're gonna fuel the growth of the cancer. Less so fat, but yeah, that even fat. Now, if you're healthy, then you're fine.

You're totally fine. You're not gonna be fueling that, just okay, look, how about this? Estrogen testosterone, male and female hormones. In a pro-cancer environment, depending on the cancer, both of those hormones can fuel cancer, right? So if you have high testosterone, and you have prostate cancer,

one of the ways they prevent the cancer from growing is to block your testosterone. If you have prostate cancer, one of the ways they prevent the cancer from growing is to block your testosterone. If you have breast cancer, they'll put you on drugs that block the effects of estrogen. Does that mean estrogen and testosterone are cancer producing hormones or the pro-cancer? No. But in the context of cancer, lots of things then become drivers of cancer. Protein being one of them, but so is carbs, so is pretty much anything else. Which is why they've, I think, didn't they accept fasting as now a protocol, right? Yeah. It's fasting now our protocol for cancer. It is. And there was that one study that was done that showed that people who fasted before doing chemo and conjection with chemo. Yeah, killed way more cancer cells and protected more of the healthy cells.

So, you know, fastings, that's some interesting implications for, or applications I should say for cancer. You know that, you know, in Chinese medicine, fasting was one of the ways they treated cancer. But for thousands of years, they saw a tumor that had the person's starve. I mean, obviously you're starving the tumor as well.

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