Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1506: How to Change Your Body Fat Set Point, The Truth About CrossFit, When to Use Drop Sets & Supersets in Your Training & More

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about resetting the body’s body fat set point, how to implement drop sets and supersets in a workouts, whether it is he...althy to have a protein shake every day, and their current thoughts on CrossFit. The growing segment of sex technology. (4:01) Why are seeing a significant increase in obesity among animals? (9:28) Are octopuses from outer space? (19:35) How IQ could affect you getting married? (22:52) Common sense versus scientific studies. (27:18) The latest updates on COVID deaths and vaccine rollouts. (28:33) UFC 259 recap and controversial hot takes. (32:55) How wearing blue-light blocking glasses at night can raise melatonin 58%! (39:20) The biggest endocrine disruptor offenders. (42:51) #Quah question #1 – Can you actually reset your body’s set point? I used to be 310 lbs., I got down to 155 lbs., but could never stay there long. My body keeps rebounding and staying at 195 lbs. I have been lifting for 5 years and tracking macros to lose weight. I would like my body to sit at 145-160 lbs. How can I reset my set point? (47:35) #Quah question #2 – When do you implement drop sets and supersets in your workouts? (55:55) #Quah question #3 - Is it healthy to have a protein shake every day? Any long-term health issues with that? (59:35) #Quah question #4 – What are your current thoughts on CrossFit? (1:03:06) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Promotion: Get in Shape for Summer – Promo code: “SPRINGBREAK” at checkout 'I climax every 30 seconds': Woman's rare disorder sees her experience constant orgasms for up to eight hours a day Mind Pump #815: Going Deeper With Sex With Emily IT’S NOT JUST ALL OF THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU THAT ARE GETTING FATTER Are Octopuses From Outer Space? Study Suggests Cephalopod Eggs Traveled to Earth on a Comet My Octopus Teacher | Netflix Official Site How IQ could affect you getting married? Thinking, Fast and Slow How the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 Vaccine Works UFC 259 Recap: Blachowicz Plays Spoiler Again, Nunes Tightens Her Featherweight Chokehold Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Attenuation of short wavelengths alters sleep and the ipRGC pupil response Visit MIIR for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1230: Surviving & Thriving In A Toxic World With Max Lugavere What is Metabolic Adaptation? - Mind Pump Blog Do I Need a Protein Shake Every Time I Workout? - Mind Pump Blog My HONEST Thoughts On Crossfit – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Emily Morse (@sexwithemily)  Instagram Mikhaila Peterson (@mikhailapeterson)  Instagram Петр "No Mercy" Ян (@petr_yan)  Instagram Aljamain Sterling (@funkmastermma)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Okay, today's episode we answered questions that were asked by people like you, real people. But the way we open the episodes with an intro portion where we typically talk about current events, studies, and we bring up our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Today's intro portion was 43 minutes long. After that, we got into the podcast. So we opened up by talking about our strong women deadlift competition that's been going on. Yeah. Really cool. Women have been sending in videos, deadlifting, and it's really, really awesome. By the way, we have a strong women deadlift shirt
Starting point is 00:00:48 available at theminepumpstore.com. Then we talk about sex technology. They come up with tech to make you orgasm at will. Sad me up, Sal. That's cool. Then we talk about fat animals. People aren't just getting fat. It's also animals.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Then we talked about octopuses. Apparently they're from space. Thanks for saying it right. I know, this time I said it right. I thought it was octopi, but apparently not. Then we talked about COVID deaths, they're dropping, so we talked about the vaccines and all that stuff. We brought up the current UFC or the one that just happened.
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Starting point is 00:02:05 your first order. Then we got into the questions, the first question, this person wants to know how you can reset your body's set point. So they used to be really heavy, they lost weight, but their body keeps wanting to creep back up. What can they do? The next question, this person wants to know when the best time to implement drop sets and supersets is. The third question, this person wants to know when the best time to implement drop sets and supersets is The third question this person wants to know if it's healthy to have a protein shake every single day and the final question This person would like our current opinion on CrossFit. You ever heard about us talk about CrossFit for a while Yeah, so we had a good time also this month We're getting you ready for the warming months. So here's what we did We took two programs put them on 50% off and. We took two programs, put them on 50% off,
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Starting point is 00:03:37 two for Apple Podcasts, one for Facebook. The Apple Podcast winners are Cheooable Eric and Jay Lopez. And for Facebook, we have Chooable, AJD. All three of you are winners in the name I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Dude, I was reading some articles about the future of tech over the weekend. There's a whole segment of technology called sex tech. What?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, so this is like technology for sex. The leisure. Yeah. And so scientists are, there's actually some scientists that are working on devices where you can implant an electrode near the spine and then you have an orgasm button. Whoa. So you could just push the button and just have an orgasm. And it's four people with like, you know, spinal injuries and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh yeah. I'm sure people are going to use that. That sounds messy. Yeah, I mean, Could you imagine having, and is it, does it keep working? Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Well, did you guys, do you remember when we went and we went and interviewed sex with Emily? Yeah. Did you guys ever, I saw, I got the one, I think it was called the Wevibe. Oh, you guys picked the stupid toys. I got that too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Those were dumb toys. No, I, what do you mean? So the idea is that, bro, I know, I know you guys got stupid toys. I got the, it's called the womanizer, which is stupid name. Read the reviews on that. Your wives are, they poor ladies, they have no idea. You guys got the dumb toys.
Starting point is 00:05:16 This guy's the toy master. The womanizer, it will, it makes, it just does crazy stuff. Well, what is it? So it's a, it's a small, it's like there's a little suction device on it. Okay. And it does this rapid fire suction with vibration. And so what a woman does is she puts it on her, her clitoris. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And it's just, just orgasm central. Wow. Is what ends up happening. Wow. So the weave I won that I had, she, I'm supposed to be like, control it remotely. Yeah. So the idea of it is I had, I'm supposed to be like, control it remotely. Yeah. So the idea of it is really cool, but it never really
Starting point is 00:05:48 was executed well. It didn't really pan out. Yeah, it sounds like, I knew it too when you guys were, when she's like, hey, pick whatever toy you want from the closet. And she was selling it hard. You guys picked those and I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:05:58 Well, she was selling it. I'll get this one over here. I'm like, I could do this by an app. Yeah, remotely. That's right, that's it. Imagine an orgasm button though, like it's an electrode on your spine. First of all, this would be, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:06:11 oh my God, the practical jokes, right? Like, let's say when you guys had it, 100%, I would find a way to get your packet. And while we're hanging out, I just be like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, you got some big speech. You know, like your before, you're hanging out, I just be like, you got some big speech. You know, like your before, you're hanging out with your parents.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Both sexes, too? I gotta go to the bathroom. Yeah, I would work on my parents, I guess. That's interesting. I know. In fact, this led me down a rabbit hole. There was this woman who had this disorder, some sort.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Shit, what? Sorry. Let you down multiple holes. Yeah, shit. What? Sorry. Well, I'll let you down multiple holes. No, yeah, yeah. Jesus, yeah. No, this woman had this disorder where every time she sneezed, she orgasmed. There was like a crossfire somehow. Oh, I've heard of this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And so every time she would sneeze, she would have an orgasm. And then there's people who have, I can't remember the name of the disorder, but they just all day, they can't control, and it's actually torture for people. They're just tortured by it. Yeah, I saw that. It was on that show taboo. There was also the orgasmic birth, which I've never believed.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Oh my God. That's gotta be a myth. That's gotta be worse things. There's gotta be worse things than orgasm all day. I mean, think about it, dude. You can't do anything right now. You're just, I know, but there's got to be worse things than that, right? I mean, there's a lot worse than if you got stuck with a condition.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I feel like that would be. I'm sure. Yeah. But I'm sure it's exhausting and you probably feel weird. You're hanging out with whoever you're hanging out. It doesn't matter. You're orgasming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You're talking to Doug and orgasm. Hang out with Justin orgasms. So confusing. No breaks. Go to your grandma's house orgasm. No breaks. No, that's what this condition was, right? Yeah. There has to be somewhat of a break.
Starting point is 00:07:49 No. Only when you sleep. Yeah, really? Yeah. It's like you wake up and it's orgasms all day. Just throughout the day. I don't believe that. That's all, it was on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's like a muscle spas, so it must be true. Uh huh. No, it's your defense. It was on the show. No, there's a, yeah. It's, no, there's a real condition. No, I'm with this. No, there's a, yeah. That's, no, there's a real condition. No, I'm with the Sal. There's a real condition.
Starting point is 00:08:08 There's an actual name for the condition. Maybe Doug can find out what the name of that condition is. It's just like one of those things where you think it's gonna be awesome. And then like if you're always in that state, it just makes it hell. Oh yeah. It reminds me of like movies where people get like a wish,
Starting point is 00:08:24 but it's an evil genie. You know what I mean? Where you're like, oh, I'd love to have orgasms all the time. So yeah, okay, here you go. And you're just tortured. All day long. What's it called their persistent genital arousal disorder? Is a phenomenon in which afflicted women
Starting point is 00:08:39 experience spontaneous genital arousal. So it's just women. Unresolved, I believe so. See men have a very strong refractory period post orgasm. That's why women can have multiple orgasms. Yeah, imagine how tired you'd be all day, if those guys were to suit the dreams.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Whoa, you look like a... Oh! Hey, what was the Indiana Jones? Eyes all sunk in. Oh! Was it on Indiana Jones with that one guy, like he shrinks down the shrink Yeah, that would be you Three skeleton at a wall. Obviously. He looks like he's 70
Starting point is 00:09:10 Louis Rubs a lotion on or something. He looks like he's actually drinking water. Yeah Yes, the current case is a 40-year-old female who experienced such orgasms for about a month Wow, a month you can't get anything done. No, man, that's terrible. Terrible. Anyway, more cool articles. That was a cool one. But another one. This one's really fascinating. So they did this study, this kind of big study. And obviously, people are getting fatter. It's happening all over the world. And the explanations for this rise in obesity is increase in calories and decrease in activity.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And that's been the explanation. But we're also seeing an increase in obesity among animals. So first they said, okay, pets, well that makes sense. They're eating more scraps off the table. The behaviors of people, their pets tend to match. Of course. So if you, you know, and this is true, fat people tend to have fat pets and whatever, right? Just like your kids.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It's not genetic, it's more of a behavior thing or whatever. Sure. But then they went a step further. Like wild animals to eat? Animals in, in, in zoos who have the same activity level all the time, measured food and take all the time, measured food intake all the time. There's a significant increase in obesity among animals in the zoo. Yeah, but that's still not terrible.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I mean, there's still humans that are controlling the feeding of that. That's what I'm saying. And what they're saying, and it's very structured. Like, zoos are very, very meticulous about how much they feed animals and how much activity they had. I don't know, I don't buy that. I don't buy that. It's the same as like the Chipotle guy who scoops my fucking meat and beans.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Like they, they, yeah. Hey, if you talk to Chipotle, they would tell you this is a half a scoop equals ex amount of calories in person. It's a heavy handed guy. Yeah, exactly, but a 100% and I know you guys can attest to this.
Starting point is 00:11:03 When you go to Chipotle, it's very inconsistent So you can't tell me some zookeeper who makes minimum wage is like, oh, this is protocol. We have to do one scoop of corn They don't say minimal. No, it doesn't work like that. We're not Bro, this isn't that tiger guy the tiger king Real zoo St. Diego just Cable shit on your stomach. No, I No, it's gonna be in the show now,
Starting point is 00:11:26 so people can read it. No, literally they're very meticulous. They measure the food, the energy, everything. Stop it, dude. Really? That's what they said. But they're confined, too. So if you, what do they say?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Okay, so if you were to ask, like I said, Chipotle, as a franchise, do you guys have rules? I don't think Chipotle is the way looser than then then the zoo. Really? I gotta do is say hey man I get some more and then he does. Yeah. No dude. Yeah. All it takes is a zoo keeper guy who likes the rhino a lot to do so he gives a little love. That's not work. The tiger just went inside of it. What do you mean it's not how it works? You think it's like auto feed. He likes me. You think they have like a measure. You think that gives them it works. You think it's like auto feed? He likes me. You think they have like a measure, anything that gives them exactly the secret?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Well, it's controlled, and I can tell you what they said in the study because these are controlled feedings and there's a system. Here's Simba, here's a little more. That's only way. Yeah, you know, and a lot of these do is you can go to the little thing and you could pay 25 cents and get the little treats and throw it to.
Starting point is 00:12:21 That's just for the sheep and the llamas. Oh. Can't do that for the bears and the tigers and the, and the expensive animals. Are they counting for the popcorn? I'm, yeah, making a swing in there right there. I'm poking holes in your study, bro. No.
Starting point is 00:12:33 It's just, it's ridiculous. Yeah. Those expensive, those are expensive ass animals. And those, those are people are scientists. Yeah. They're not just like, you think it's that? The scientists are not feeding the fucking rhinos, dude. That's not what's going on.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Anyway, so this was a study said, Adam. All right. Says, Justin, who side you are on there? I don't know. I'm kind of kind of. Don't you have to take an eight. There's three of us. You have to take a side when things like this happen
Starting point is 00:12:54 on the show. I mean, there's, there's scientists involved, but I like your theory. You take two jists. I like it, but it's not true. It's enough, it's enough to poke holes in his studies. Just, just, just, just the funny theory. And that's why I like Justin's a poll. Here's what I poke holes in his studies. Just the funny theory, and that's what I like. Just the point is,
Starting point is 00:13:08 Here's what I like about what you're saying, Adam. And here's what I like about what Sal said. No dependency. You get nothing out of it. No, so what the study said is they think that the chemical, the chemicals that are, that where everybody's being exposed to, including animals, these endocrine disrupting chemicals. Did I say that right this time?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Does it? No. Never say it right. Endocrine. Endocrine disrupting chemicals. Xenoestrogens are causing everything to get better. And that's one of the reasons why they think this is happening. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:39 So yeah, so it's not the only thing that's making it way in the meat. I'm going with it, Chipotle theory. It's because they're just exposed. Chemicals, pollution, plastics, like everything. Wow. And so everybody's making that much in the meat. I'm going with it, Chipotle theory. It's because they're just exposed. Chemicals, pollution, plastics, like everything. Wow. And so everybody's making that much of an impact. I'm just picturing a zookeeper.
Starting point is 00:13:51 He's got a scooper, you know? He's got a little extra for you today. Yeah, fluffy. Yeah. So yeah, I thought you were going to go more in the direction of you know how like bears and like wild animals, they find their way towards people like visiting and then they go
Starting point is 00:14:05 through the dumpsters and you know eat a bunch of shit and that's how they're getting fat. Yeah no no they were talking about zoo animals which I thought was fascinating because zoo animals they're controlled. You know if you if you kind of okay so kind of you ever talked to you ever talked to the people working to zoo. Sure you have? You're gonna get a lot of messages. You've never talked to anybody at the zoo. I took my job seriously. I know, there's gonna be some kiddie. He said, minimum wage.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I don't see what it just. Yeah. Nothing like a purpline. Well, you can't, okay, listen, there's definitely some probably very brilliant people that work at the zoo. So I'm not, I'm not insulting everybody that works as a zoo, right? So, okay, listen, there's probably some really. Just back better back better a little bit right here. I don't want my fucking DMs flooding with people that are insulted by their their education that their
Starting point is 00:14:53 formal education they went through to get work at the zoo. Listen there's definitely people there that are very smart that are probably controlling things but you cannot tell me the job of the person that goes around every morning or twice a day and feeds a lot of these animals are the scientists. That's not who's doing that, come on. Well, I mean, so it's very interesting. That would be very cost-effective. Look, this is one of the top theories
Starting point is 00:15:17 because they're trying to figure it out because I've talked to people who work in zoos, okay? I have. You have, you have a lot of zoo friends, huh? You have a lot of zoo friends. huh? You have a zoo friend. No, dude, I think it's fascinating. And they literally measure and weigh. We feed the lions, you know, exactly,
Starting point is 00:15:33 three pounds of red meat and two pounds of this and whatever. Yeah, no, but they go back. Yeah, they monitor their weight and their health constantly. But yeah, it's, I don't know, dude. I honestly, there's a lot of people that really take this seriously. It's scientifically. Anyway, but I like the theory though. Well, in the same article, they were saying how animals in the wild are getting fatter,
Starting point is 00:15:55 but see, that could be explained away too. Like you said, Justin, because a lot of fat people camping. Yes, or they were saying that rural rats were getting fatter. Again, I could explain that away too. Right. You know, because there's more shit and food left everywhere. So, but look, it is interesting, you know, because then you have the other stuff that's happening,
Starting point is 00:16:14 which is like testosterone levels of males, dropping considerably, you're seeing poor mountain changes in children. Right, you got to consider that too in terms of like being cooped up and like only having like so much Space available to like that's got to do something to your hormones as well, right? I don't know What about that to like what about the the size of these these pens for over the course of the last 30 years for zoos Two they have they reduced the size of what the why don't say any agos is like one of the best because whoa
Starting point is 00:16:43 I just did something. Yeah, you just build a bunch of that. Just keep it. It's rather more chilly. It's fine, Doug. Don't worry. It's okay. You got all crazy. Yeah, no, it's the best because it has so much open space and less fences and things.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. You know, I used to like Zeus and then Jessica ruined it for me. Why? Because she's like, I'm, she, I could have tried, I've tried to talk her, I love Zeus. I love seeing. Big zoo guy. Animal, I'm a big zoo guy, right?
Starting point is 00:17:12 I like seeing animals, I think it's fascinating. But she made me feel real bad because she's like, she goes, I'm not supposed to be able to see a polar bear or a lion or a tiger here in San Diego or whatever. She goes, it's weird. Yeah. And they're captive in this and that. And of course, I do the whole like, oh,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but they're taking care of and they donate so much money to help preserve these animals of the sun that she goes, no, it's still not, you know, whatever. And she's, I mean, she makes good points. So I'm not going to zoos anymore. Oh, that just really? Or really? It's not going to go to a zoo. That documentary came really? Or really? At least it's not gonna go to a zoo?
Starting point is 00:17:45 That documentary came out, what was it, blackfish? About that whole thing, and yeah, like a sea world and all that. It kind of ruined it for me a bit. But yeah, I mean, it isn't natural, it's not their natural environment, but also too.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Like how else are you, or a lot of people gonna be able to see these animals? You're not gonna go in safari. And what's the type, you gotta weigh it out. Yeah, you gotta weigh out. Animals and captivity, you know humans enjoyment Well, what about the survival right though? Like so I understand like the whale there that one's terrible right whales are used to I mean they have like the most
Starting point is 00:18:15 They have the most area to roam than anybody then they can put these little fucking pools like that's pretty ridiculous Right and they live pretty long don't they? I don't know you don't know that no big zoo guy, but you don't know how long Well And they live pretty long, don't they? I don't know. You don't know that? No. Big zoo guy, but you don't know how long we'll live. I'm not a wife. A lot of lies coming out of you today, I feel like, dude. Yeah, no, I hear what you're saying. But, I mean, but yeah, what's the survival rate of like a... They live longer in captivity, obviously.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Right. Yeah, I know that, but I mean, would you... Let me ask you to get... And you get filet, manion, for dinner almost every night. Bro, come on. Yeah, but think about it this way. You as a human, if I put you in this big ass cage with lots of whatever you want with feed You all the time you watch TV. You just can't leave and oh, but don't worry. You'll live you know 10 years long
Starting point is 00:18:50 Would you want to do it? Well, you have a conscious different right so you think about stuff like that where they're their whole their whole Purpose is to survive yeah, right is to eat and survive and they're gonna eat and survive longer than I don't know You know again as you could argue either way. Yeah, look at that. Who whales lived to their 90s? Yeah, so that's kind of you're 90 years out in the ocean on your own. And then you get stuck in a pool. I don't think they put a blue whale in the and did you see that killer whale? That's killer whale. 29 years. Oh, okay. By the way, have you seen killer whales hunt? Have you watched documentaries on that? Oh, my super smart.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Bro, there there was a seal on a floating iceberg. Just safe. From the they created a massive wave. They swim. They created a massive wave to knock them off. They swim up and the wave knocks them off. They had these stuff like at all the time. To pin animals, it's pretty fast enough. Oh yeah, they're really smart. Did you see two like, so octopus is like, they've- Octopi.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Well, I like safe pusses, because it's more like, okay. Okay, you know. I don't know how they do with it. I said, go with the Justin, I'm with it. Yeah, so the pusses, they, the scientists have basically determined that they're from outer space. No, I'm serious. What are the things?
Starting point is 00:19:59 I'm serious, they think that they're aliens, it made their way to earth like thousands of years ago. You know what I hate about that? I'm like, like thousands of years. You know what I hate about that? I'm like, come on, really? You know what I hate about that? This is what I hate. I hate it when scientists, whenever we don't know, check me on that. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I make a leap. Yeah. I don't know how this was made. Must be aliens. Yeah. So they think that Octopi or Octopi? Yeah, the Octopuses is they can change their DNA. There's all kinds of weird traits that they have
Starting point is 00:20:30 that they just leave fish crazier. Are they're weirder, aren't they? What is? As jellyfish. They live longer and we can't explain more about them than the Octopus. I don't know, where do you think they're some of them? No, some jellyfish live.
Starting point is 00:20:42 They're almost like, don't jellyfish live ever. Yeah, right? Yeah jellyfish live like for a long ass like they don't die of of eight of old age. Yeah. Oh, yeah I do remember that yeah, so with octopus. I know where you got this from this is from grand handcock Right is that we read it? Yeah, it might be but I yeah There's something else from grand-cock. I wanted to bring up they were saying they were saying there you go Wow a scientific paper says octopus to push this to Justin. Yeah Wow see it is the pusses
Starting point is 00:21:10 Correct me come from outer I like the short just pushes yeah a scientific paper claims that these Wondersly smart undersea animals are actually aliens brought to earth by meteor meteor travelers I don't know they don't survive very long outside of water Indians brought to earth by media. Media or travelers. Hello. I don't know. They don't survive very long outside of the water. So it's a working theory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Well, they just did some tests and they determine that they feel in pain and that they have emotions surrounding pain, which I think is kind of a... Well, they're super smart. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, didn't you cover that in the documentary that you talked about, Justin? What's that documentary that's out on Netflix right now?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh, the one with the guy who was friend. Yeah, the weird dude that we're doing the friend of the octopus. Yeah, that was actually really fascinating. Yeah, because it was really like the only time they've had insight on the behavior of how they interact. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah, and so he actually like immersed himself every day and filmed and documented, you know interacting with this like octopus And it was like pretty pretty trippy. Have you have you seen them escape? You ever seen videos of them escaping like a jar or I mean they're really smart. Yeah, they figure their way around all kinds of stuff Do you guys like eating octopus? Yes, no, yeah, I love it. Yeah, I knew you I knew you would Chicken fingers here comes here comes a joke here comes the chicken figures to look to the audience should know that any time we go to like a seafood restaurant
Starting point is 00:22:32 you're sure she's we always see his justice we'll have all the fight you guys have corn chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken nuggie these you get my friend the coloring book to actually just as I like fish tastes better. He's got like, you know, fish sticks. Yeah, with tartar sauce.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Oh, anyway, that's interesting. All right, you guys are ready for some controversial stuff. Oh, please. It's controversial time. All right, so this, I actually looked this up. This is a real, these are real statistics that are a bit controversial about the real. And I just saw Michaela Peterson,
Starting point is 00:23:07 she had her dad, Jordan Peterson, on the podcast and they talked about this. This is a legit thing. So for every 16 points above 100 on IQ tests, so for every 16 additional IQ points above 100 that a woman has, she has a 40% reduction in her odds or probabilities of getting married. For a man, every 16 points.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so the smarter she gets, the less likely she's getting married. Big time. What does that say about us? Hold on a second. For a man. We're a little fragile. I know, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Or ego's here. And is that like, is that handle it? Is that like a cross generations? Or is that just right now? It's just, this is just the, when they studied for long periods of time, it's what they find. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:52 For man, every 16 points above 100, that a man goes up in IQ, he has a 35% increase in likelihood of getting married. So it's, it explains that we need them. That's what you're saying. Well, no, so what they're, what they're, what they're, in this, they don't need us. And this is what the science says.
Starting point is 00:24:09 The science says it's because women tend to be attracted to men that are, they wanna be with a man that's smarter whereas men tend to wanna be with one. Oh, so as they get smarter, they tend to hurt a little bit. It does. So if they're really, really smart, they're too smart for those men. Then, they're finding, they're looking for a man that's sort of the man. It's harder for smarter
Starting point is 00:24:28 women to find, uh, equally or greater, uh, smarter. I mean, I, I totally, just, I'm subscribed to that. I think of your clients. I've trained a lot of really, like brilliant women that were CEOs, VPs and so that. And yes, and, and it always like, you know, complaining to me, God, I can't find anybody. Yeah, so that's interesting. It is right now. What's so controversial about that? Well, it's just controversial because it says like, is it because you know,
Starting point is 00:24:52 is it getting mad about that guys? We're getting mad because we sound stupid, right? No, no, I think it's because it's some people it sounds like, oh, does that mean that women, they have to be with someone smarter or is it because guys are scared to be with someone that's smarter than them or whatever. So it causes a lot of relatively controversial conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:12 But I do think it's fascinating. I do think it's very, very interesting. And you know, it's funny. Was it you, Adam, that sent me that, was it that article that talked about, or no, no, it was that book that talked about how we like to, we always try to go towards the mean. Was it that book that you were showing?
Starting point is 00:25:27 What book, I mean, I essentially. I've seen a lot of books. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I was just saying, I've played a lot of books for you. Yeah, thinking fast and slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like with height, right? Women tend to want to be with men taller,
Starting point is 00:25:37 men tend to want to be with women shorter, and their children tend to be, if they're, if the man is extremely tall, the children tend to be a little bit more average or whatever. Reduction to the mean. Reduction to the mean. So I wonder if I have to do with that with intelligence,
Starting point is 00:25:50 where one wants one smarter, one wants one dumber, and again, you know what I actually think I read this somewhere? That's exactly right. No, that's really interesting. I just don't see why that's controversial, though. I don't see where someone's going to be. I do think it's funny, though, when people say, I guess I could see how some man would be intimidated
Starting point is 00:26:06 because there's that whole, like, I need to be the guy thing. I would, I'm opposite for me. I think intelligence is extremely attractive for me. It's like my number one turn on. Yeah, for sure. We're always trying to generalize human behaviors and like, try and like, put it in categories and hope that it, like, keeps playing out like that,
Starting point is 00:26:23 but it's like all over the place. Yeah, there's too many other variables. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's just like, I bring this, I brought it up before. What's the study thing like to duplicate a study? It's like, especially behavioral studies. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Like on the majority of them, they try to duplicate them and it just doesn't, what was that point though? True science is going in to prove it wrong every time, right? Yeah, you're right. That's not the mentality isn't to prove your hypothesis, it's to see if you can duplicate it, or if it doesn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:51 like if you're going through that again, to see if it fails. Yeah, I just feel like we become this society too, that leans so heavily though on like studies. Oh, this study said this, it's so easy. And then we throw out common sense. Yeah, and then exactly, or common sense, or stuff that we've seen for years and years and years, right? It's funny to me that,
Starting point is 00:27:07 and when you look at, actually research how consistent studies really are, they're very inconsistent. And you're actually, so I'll go in another direction with that. So the CDC just came out and said that fully vaccinated people now can gather indoors, no problem, but they still say everybody should wear masks
Starting point is 00:27:25 in public. And so it was on a page on Instagram. So of course, I do my thing. I leave my controversial comment and get just blasted. I mean, can we just think about that for a second? Yeah. Oh yeah, how ridiculous that sounds. Well, I'll just going to say this is the common sense versus study thing, right?
Starting point is 00:27:42 So studies will show that if people wear masks, there's gonna be less infections. But we completely ignore the common sense that says that, and by the way, science supports us as well, that people need to see other people's faces where are social creatures. In fact, a big part of our brain is dedicated to reading faces. This is why humans can make faces at almost anything.
Starting point is 00:28:03 You can look at a car and you can see a face, you can look at a toaster and see a face. It's a big part of who we are. And the intricacies of reading people's emotions and faces is a very important part of our social health. And we're not considering that. It's all about infection rates and they're not considering like,
Starting point is 00:28:17 what is the potential damage of forcing especially children to wear masks all the time around each other? There's a trade-off. It's not a zero trade-off, there's some trade-off. Yeah, I thought I see we're like record highs right now, aren't we? What's for what? Yeah, for the COVID deaths right now. Where are we now? No, no, no. Are we going down? Yeah, big time. We've been going down for a while now. Well, tell me, give me, I'm not paying attention to this stuff anymore and I know you're still
Starting point is 00:28:38 so once the election happened, I'm over it. I was like, I'm so over this. It's like the, again, I always give the analogy like sport. It's like the Super Bowl is over. I don't care anymore. Yeah, I don't care anymore. I'm not going to talk about football all fucking off-sweat until next season. But, I expect nerdy guys like you that like politics stuff to still be keeping me informed on all of stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:56 So, I mean, break it down. It's going, it's way down. And the U.S. the cases have come down significantly in California. They've come down quite a bit. So, it's, I mean, good news. There's good news is it's coming down quite a bit. So we're on a downtrend right now. Does that mean it can switch and reverse?
Starting point is 00:29:09 I don't know. What about state-by-state? Because now we're starting to see that what we see, Texas, Mississippi, Florida, we've got to handful of these states that are like full on open up, right? So are we comparing like those two, what's going on? I find it interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:22 What is it, Florida has been pretty much open since August? Yeah. And they have the highest percentage of population of like elderly people. They do. They have a very old population. Right. So you think that if all you know played out the way
Starting point is 00:29:36 that the media has been portraying it, there'd be a lot of deaths. I was just talking to Jessica about this the day. The brilliance in some of the ways that our government was initially set up. And in the brilliance of states, states have powers that the federal government does. Now, the federal government has grown in power, just exponentially over the last, I don't know, 10 decades or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:00 But the states still have quite a bit of power. And in the way our government is designed, some states can say no masks, or you have to wear a mask, and we don't have a federal mandate, and if we did, it'd be so hard to encourage it to, what's the word, make sure everybody was doing stuff, from a federal standpoint, you couldn't necessarily, yeah, so what's good about that?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, what's great is that we can compare. So we can literally, in five five years look back and say, all right, Texas, Florida, California, they're all big states, they've got metropolitan areas, they're similar enough to where we can compare them. California still has their mask mandates, Florida, and Texas don't. Let's compare them and see what's the answer.
Starting point is 00:30:42 There's got to be a counter argument to that right now, right? What's the argument to that. What's the argument to that? Otherwise, everybody would open up. If you have places like Florida that it's not going, it's not right now. The argument is by opening up, you're going to cause another spike in infections.
Starting point is 00:30:56 That's the argument. So that again, so that this is, it's a waiting game right now. It's okay, let's see what happens in the states in the next five, six months. And then we'll make our predictions. Right. But people, a lot of people are getting vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And then Johnson and Johnson's vaccine is going to be coming out. Don't you think that's going to be the counter that people are going to say that? Oh, that's because you everybody, by now, do we have a percentage of people, X amount of people now are vaccinated? I don't know if it's reached that number yet. There's a lot, but the cases we're dropping really fast before enough people are getting vaccinated to really make a dent anyway But Johnson and Johnson's vaccines coming out and their vaccines very interesting because
Starting point is 00:31:36 The other two vaccines was at Pfizer and Moderna. They require two injections and they require they need to be stored at like Super cold temperatures. So it's it's kind of a pain the ass to administer and store and it's very inefficient Johnson and Johnson's doesn't need to be stored that way and it's only one shot. Now, wasn't it you that told me that this isn't even like a true vaccine, it's like a gene modulator, something like that, isn't it different than normal RNA ones? The other two ones are mRNA vaccines.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And now, so I heard this, don't know if it's true, haven't confirmed this or not. I'd love to look this up and see if it's true. But I've seen people saying that they called their life insurance companies. Yes, I saw that. And the life insurance companies said, we're getting it to the bottom of this. Yeah, that's basically said, if I die from this vaccine, will my spouse get the life insurance? Does this void my life insurance? And apparently they said it does void because it's an experimental vaccine. Is that true? You guys know. And I wonder if then that the Johnson and Johnson one would
Starting point is 00:32:28 be different. I think it is. It's not a mRNA. Right. Well, I mean, in terms of the life insurance policy, it dugs the life insurance guys. So he would have a better guest than any of us. I have no great guests. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know. You're about as fucking worth is Justin with these arguments. Hey, hey, sorry Yeah, what are you doing a stance of something I will find out sorry I actually think about things. Yeah, I bad Hey, how about those fights over the weekend. Yeah, I was let down a little bit Why the main fight was a little well, newness. I mean, it was such a piece Yeah, newness destroyed that it She's a beast. Noon has destroyed.
Starting point is 00:33:05 That, it looked like a mismatch to me. Nobody's matching up the new, yeah, it was, I mean, I can't find anybody. That, exactly, that was like the best contender for her. I mean, so that girl was been whooping ass. She's a big girl. Yeah, I mean, if there was anybody that had a chance at her, I mean, that's,
Starting point is 00:33:20 she's, there's nobody. Yeah. And now, what was the guy's name that need the dude whose head was down? Yeah. I can't think of who it is right now. You know, I'm talking about it. Yeah, yeah, it was a third, it was a third mate.
Starting point is 00:33:30 It was like the, there was three championship fights. Yes, that was the first of the three. What a bad call. I guess he said it was his corner that told him to do that. He thought it was, but you can, they replayed it and showed him. He's more deliberate. Don't get him.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I think he, I think he missed her. So Justin has a theory that I think has legs. What? What you think? Well, tell him what your theory is. Well, honestly, because of like incidents like that, like it's so deliberate and it happened like he was, like when they were going through this,
Starting point is 00:33:58 like look at the judges scoring, like he was winning. Obviously. And it's like to do something like that just looks like a throne fight to me. Oh. Peter Yan. Yeah, but like, I've seen like a lot of these, I mean, sometimes you see it as like a,
Starting point is 00:34:13 what do they call that like a faint like punch or like a, like a, yeah, like a missed punch than the guy pretends like, oh, like he's all hurt. I mean, I could see that like he's winning. He knows he's winning, There might be some money involved. So, and I was like, I'm gonna lose. It just feel, it felt too fishy to me. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:30 That is an interesting thing. Because it was so obvious. Well, and the money line on that was like, way skewed, too. Oh yeah. So that's what makes it more like like 500, so? Yeah, it was way skewed. So, that makes that more believable.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And if there's a way that you're gonna get away with throwing a fight like that, like if he wasn't even like, did you see his reaction after the whole thing? Like he was so aloof about the whole thing. Like dude, you just like through the fight, you dumbass. Like what, what did you do that for? And he's Russian, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Now Peter, is he from Russia? Now here's the thing that we're all challenging. Not that I disagree. I think it's an interesting theory and we're all challenging, not that I disagree. I think it's an interesting theory, and we're definitely stirring up controversy by saying some shit like that. But what is different about UFC right now,
Starting point is 00:35:13 we talked about this why we're at the house, like no crowd, right? So these guys can actually hear a lot of what their corner is saying, and there's a lot of these guys that are actually, I mean, I've watched several UFC fights where I can hear as a spectator, I can hear the corner, and then I can see the fighter totally listen to what they're saying and then change whatever he's doing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And what they tried is, what he claimed was that he thought he heard, he heard them say, hit them. And they said, don't hit them. And so that's what happened. And so he just responded to his corner. And so that's also believable to me too, because normally they wouldn't even hear that. It's so loud at a fight like that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But let me ask you guys a question though. Yeah. Are you, I mean, maybe this is true. Are you that much of a robot when you're fighting that you do what your corner? And like, is that part of the training? Well, because I feel like it was so obvious. Come on, honey, was down.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, no, come on, dude, in a fight, dude, it's like a lot of split second moments, right? And instinct and you just like hit him, go. Yeah, exactly. You hear knee knee and it's possible. Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know. It's, I think you have an interesting theory on that. It just smelled fishy.
Starting point is 00:36:20 That's all I'm gonna say. I'm not definitive. I thought what was fishy to me to your point was how homeboy reacted afterwards because he acted so like So days and so I did he did but it seemed like it was a little little little action, but even you've seen people getting knocked out too and then like come to and they're like totally coherent and like fine Yeah, so to him still be hurt that was also a little suspect. Yeah I've seen fights like that. I got to get hit in the nuts.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And then he's like, oh, it's a camp fight. But in order to do a no contest, but because that looked deliberate, well, what was in his benefit for still fighting after that? Nothing. Nothing. He was no like, there was no like,
Starting point is 00:36:58 except for his own sort of, you know, ego, no going forward. No, Peter Yan was getting very dominant. And his defense was so solid I mean he couldn't break his defense. Yeah, you know, but I I agree with you I mean in the Russian mob they had they've got their hands on a lot of things So you know who was Dominate in this fight too was they like under cabeeb cabeebs training partner
Starting point is 00:37:25 He was amazing to watch. Incredible. Yeah, incredible. His wrestling was on the phone. All right, I got another study for you guys. So, I read a lot this week. I know, I do sometimes.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You're a reader. No, you know what's funny? No, leaders are readers. Along those lines. I book reader. You're right. Along those lines. So, on the mind pump.
Starting point is 00:37:42 True. Instagram page, we did this whole like three truce one lie three truce one lie and then the idea was pick the lie and then you'll I don't want to Like when a prize or whatever did you ask Choki how many people got that wrong? I've had a lot of people it said most almost all of them. Yeah, so I had I had three truths on one lie The lie for me was what I tell the tell the truth first tell it remember exactly Oh my god, it was your thing you don't remember Come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Didn't you write it out? I got a selective memory. Well, I mean you're gonna share it on the show. You got to tell everybody not everybody's following on Instagram. All right. I'll pull it up right now. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here they are. So here's here are the statements. Okay. You guys don't know which one the liars, but one of them is I personally sold over a million commissionable dollars at 24 fitness in two years. Another one was I the brack. I was a premier, exactly. This is an opportunity. I was a premier banker with the Series 6 and 63 license. I played the trumpet for four years, and then I read a lot of books. And the lie was that I read a lot of books. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I told a lot of people pick trumpet. Yeah, I didn't know you actually didn't know you played for four years. I know you played it. I didn't know you were four years. Yeah, I did. Wow, so did you get okay at it? Were you, um, would you play us the trumpet maybe? Right, dude, I haven you played for four years. I knew you played it. I didn't know you were four years. Yeah, I did. Wow, so did you get okay at it? Were you, um,
Starting point is 00:38:46 would you play us the trumpet maybe? Right, dude, I haven't played in so long. The Saints go marching in, I don't hear it. No, I can't do it. No, nothing. I can't. I can make the sound. I can't do it right now.
Starting point is 00:38:56 No, with the trumpet. But yeah, a lot of people think I read a lot of books, but I don't. I read a lot of articles, studies, and blogs. I don't read a lot of books. I guess that one, right? Yeah, I don't get annoyed with it. You're gonna studies, and blogs. I don't read a lot of books. I guess that one, right? Yeah, Adam gets annoyed with it. He's always sending me books.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So I'll talk about this on the podcast. Yeah, I'm like, I want him to read it. So give me the top notes. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, then he sends it over to Jessica, then he gives me like the short, like the Clifnote version of it.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So I just skip him. So study, here's a study. So melatonin production at night, right? It's anti-inflammatory. It's in antioxidant. Low melatonin levels reduce growth hormone output. It accelerates aging. Melatonin, when you sleep, very important. In fact, even we just talked about COVID earlier,
Starting point is 00:39:39 people with good melatonin levels less likely to get infected or with severe symptoms of COVID, even they're showing you some studies. Anyhow, wearing blue light blocking glasses at night increases melatonin production by a whopping 58%. Wow. 58, that's cute. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:56 That's not a small amount. So literally wearing blue light blocking glasses for two hours before you go to bed versus not wearing them and just looking at your lights and all stuff. 58% difference in melatonin. I have to admit that of all the nerdy things that I do now, that is one that I do consistently, that I would have, if you would have asked me, you know, seven, eight years ago as a trainer,
Starting point is 00:40:19 like, if I would wear, I would be scoffing you. Oh my God, I would laugh. I remember when all of them stole out of it. No way. Because it's so dorky forever. Yeah. Like I would be scoffing it. Oh my God, I would laugh at that. I remember when all of them fell out. Oh yeah, no way. Because it's so dorky forever. Yeah, like I just, I think it is. It's probably still to really dorky. I think it's probably still, but it works. It works.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Some of our friends make fun of us. They make a big difference. So, we went to PaleoFX years ago and we're walking around and then there's a bunch of people where orange glasses everywhere. The daytime. It was daytime that their kids were in. Whole families.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And what it felt like was exactly like when we go to the bodybuilding conventions and you have a bunch of dudes walking around with stringers. It's like the exact same thing. I remember wearing their moccasins. I remember, I think it was the Arnold Classic, and it was like in Columbus, it was like snow outside, and people are walking in with stringer tanks and stuff like that. Yeah. It's not even just pretentious, right? It's crazy outside.
Starting point is 00:41:08 But it works, dude. It's become one. That's a big percentage, dude. And over time, that makes a big difference. You can feel it. You can feel it. And anybody that I know that we've turned on to using the glasses will DMs me all the time.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Like, wow, I notice a huge difference. And where you notice it the most is when you don't So if you wear them consistently for a while like it's it's hard because I feel like it's it gets better and better It's a little subtle, you know a lot of people aren't aware of that even myself was paying attention I feel like at first. I wasn't I didn't really knows it. It's when I I would forget when I would forget to wear it and then I could really Tell like oh shit. That makes a big difference. Well, it's like going back to the whole zoo thing. I think the environmental factors are a lot bigger than people realize.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Just because it's so subtle, you're just exposed to lights or whatever, it doesn't seem like that big a deal. But it depends on the amount and everyday and the volume. It just adds up. Exactly. And along those lines, that one article I brought up earlier about,
Starting point is 00:42:06 people getting fat or whatever, the scientists and they're talked about, just along the lines that we were saying Justin, the fact that everything is so temperature controlled, that we burn less calories. Because when we're cold, we shiver, when we're hot, we our bodies try to adapt. And that process of acclimating to the temperature burns calories.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But because we're always in temperature controlled environments, we're not getting, we're not exercising that muscle. That speaks to, I was listening to, you know, John Romano, like that interview he did just recently, talking about clan buterole. And just like that being the side effect, like bodybuilders were attracted to it because of the side effects of it where it just, you just shiver all the time and you just like burn more calories. I thought that was hilarious. I thought it was like, wow, that's why it works.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That sucks. Hey, back to your Xenoestrogens and that claim to that's why all their animals are fat. Yeah, fads do animals. Yeah, what are, for humans, what are the biggest rocks in that area, right? Like is it microwaving your food in plastic? Is it drinking drinks out of plastic?
Starting point is 00:43:06 Is it the hair and face products? Like there's so many things that carry that. What are the, and I'm somebody, let's say that I'm somebody who definitely, every time Sal does a study, I go out and try whatever he's saying or get better at my daily habits. What are the areas that you would tell somebody like maybe check these boxes? Plastic containers is one of the bigger ones for sure. Storing your food in plastic containers. Uh, water, all the time. Yep. In the cold or the heat over time.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Do you think that's what's made the rise of like brands like meer and stuff like that with the, the, the, the, that's got to help, right? You think that's why they'll wear this? Because I feel like those have exploded like those water bottles and things like that. Like that wasn't a big deal when we were, like when we first started in fitness, not everybody carried those insulated water bottles. Is that more like plastic, like protein shakeer? Totally, 100%.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, I think so. Also, I think the, I think people are more environmentally conscious. So I don't know about you guys, but I used to buy big packs of bottled water and whatever, and that's what I would drink my water. And then you just start to realize,
Starting point is 00:44:07 like holy shit, I'm throwing away hell of plastic bottles all the time. Yeah, it's just wasteful. Wasteful. So then I got a water purifier and then I put water in a insulated container, like a miracle or whatever. Keep it cold all day.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Keep it cold all day. It's not plastic. So it's not being stored in plastic and you're not getting those Xenoreses. Yeah, because I remember reading so much. It's already bad enough to drink out of that. It's really bad if you leave it in your car and then the sun heats it up, right?
Starting point is 00:44:33 Is that like four cold? Oh cold will do too. Any extreme temperature. Wow, it's caused the plastic to reach into the car. I didn't know that. So if you put like it, because it's really common, you go to like any kid's soccer field
Starting point is 00:44:45 or like a cooler full of these. Yeah, you throw those water bottles in the ice. Really? Now it's over time, it gets worse and worse. So if you freeze it and you know, you get it out after, you know, a month or whatever. But yeah, and even if you just leave it in, even if it's at normal temperature over time,
Starting point is 00:45:02 some of that, leaches in, some of that's gonna be in the water I'm interested and then the second big offender and oh, you know, it's a big one too The laxie coating on like receipts. Yes, I remember that's a big one huge like that max I remember max done but it was a big one not big is in like you're like you're getting most your scene I'm so glad I I never still a lot I always tell none and I keep the receipt. No, what he's saying is, and I looked into this, is there's a lot just on one receipt.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So it's a lot of exposure just from touching that waxy material on the receipt. I always never get a receipt by the way. I don't know why. Are there areas that you guys would admit that you're good at and that you're bad at? With the zenos? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Because it's gotta be airy. I mean, none of us are perfect. Let's be honest. No, I don't even paid that much attention to what I'm doing. It took me a long time, a matter of fact, thanks to Doug, right? Doug, Doug saw this, especially when I was competing. I was notorious for microwaving shit in plastic.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yep. And not getting the end. I remember Doug buying me all the glass jars trying to save my life. He's like, we need you around in five or 10 years. Yeah. Just thing does. That is the thing. Yeah, this business goes all the glass jars trying to save my life. He's like, we need you around in five or 10 years. The first thing does is, that is the thing. This business goes anywhere.
Starting point is 00:46:08 So he might have saved my life. So that was an area that I was really, really bad at. Are there things like, I don't use, obviously I don't use hair products, you know? So I'm not getting a lot of people. I'm just, you know, for the nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, that's a high one too, right? Like just like beauty,
Starting point is 00:46:24 oh, lotions. Of course. Like my, my jargons is like, hurt me. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a high one too, right? Like just lotion like beauty. Oh, lotions of course like my my Jurgens is like hurt me. Yeah, really yeah, dude All the lotions there's got to be some good lotions and right? Oh, how about this? That like the the fabric softener's and you that will you'll put on your clothes so that they're so that they're soft That's that's like that smell those I have some good dude I wonder too, but because I was used to wear like my Apple watch all the time and like fit bit and all that but then I started to get this like skin reaction to it and I can only go for so long before I would get irritated by it like I don't know what kind of like
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Starting point is 00:47:34 First question is from Jaina Roller Fit. Can you actually reset your body's set point? I used to be 310 pounds. I got down to 155 pounds, but never can stay there long. My body keeps rebounding and staying at 195. I've been lifting for five years and tracking macros to lose weight. I would like to, my body to sit at 145 to 160 pounds. How can I reset my set point? You know, I never, I, 10 years in personal training, I only gave even heard someone talk my set point? You know, I never, 10 years in personal training,
Starting point is 00:48:05 I only gave him heard someone talk about set point. That was not like a common, is it like getting marketed like crazy? That's what it is. It's gonna last me. Cause I feel like we've dressed this multiple times in the show. And net carbs.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah, right. That is definitely one that's new for sure. No, I feel for her. So I feel for this person because, or her, I think it's a her, but for them because this is this can definitely be challenging, but here's the deal. Set point, the body set point, it definitely has been used by marketers to make you to sell you products. What they'll say is you, it's your set point, your body's natural physiology is making you this overweight,
Starting point is 00:48:41 try our product or our process to change your set point. As if you would have this new normal, and now no matter what you do, you can't gain weight because you have this new set point. Okay, so here's the truth. The 99%, there's definitely some physiological stuff that happens, and we'll get to that in a second. But 99% of a set point is behavior, okay? When you have behaviors that have caused you to weigh 310 pounds at some point, which did not happen overnight, right? Takes a long time, it's a slow process of weight gain,
Starting point is 00:49:11 oftentimes starting it as a child, right? Oftentimes, someone who's 310 pounds as an adult probably dealt with weight issues as a child. These are hard set psychological behaviors and attachments to food or food relationship issues. And that's very hard to change. Just because you lose weight, doesn't mean you change those hard set behaviors
Starting point is 00:49:35 and coping mechanisms. Yeah, many times you've just been really disciplined for an extended period of time. You've done it just through sheer will. Exactly, sheer do it. You see this at the highest level in competing. I mean, you'd be surprised how many of these kids that are getting up on stage and competing have all kinds of eating issues, just like these 310 pound people,
Starting point is 00:49:54 which is different, you know, but they've been able to get on stage, present their physiques because through sheer will, they can discipline themselves for a year straight of eating like regimen. Hey, this is a look at, I'll tell you what, statistically speaking, there's a significant percentage of people who get gastric bypass surgery, who gain the way back. Now, consider gastric bypass is about as extreme as it gets in terms of setting up blocks preventing you from gaining weight. They literally bypass your stomach so that you don't have one essentially, making it almost impossible to overeat and yet a significant portion of people forced themselves to gain
Starting point is 00:50:31 weight. Actually worked with someone like this. I couldn't believe that this actually happened. So the set point is a behavior one. So here's my advice to this person asking this question. If you want to change your set point, work with the therapist, work with someone who's going to work with your behaviors, that's where the issue lies. It's not some issue with your body that it wants to be in a particular way, because if we locked you in a laboratory and fed you the same amount and kept you certain period active or whatever, your body would weigh whatever we'd want it to weigh. Well, also, I think it's important to acknowledge where homeostasis is, where that maintenance is, where your body is most comfortable based off of behaviors, based off the way you're training or eating all these things, to then stretch yourself and push yourself into
Starting point is 00:51:22 a different category, into a different level. You know, like you mentioned, a lot of its behavioral driven. This isn't like a genetic limitation, which is kind of like what this implies. There's something metabolically going on here, though, too, that we have to address. That's very common, right? Somebody who's 310 pounds drops all the way down to the 150 range, the amount of calorie reduction and movement and cardio and training this, this person probably did to get to that point was a lot I bet. Probably. And a
Starting point is 00:51:50 lot of times it wasn't, it was done with the intentions of how fast can I get this off my body versus what is the smartest fat, the smartest way for me to get this. Right. Because we don't know what she did. Right. Exactly. And many times what happens is the person who was this heavy got all the way down to 155 by doing things like eating 900 to 1200 calories a day, doing cardio, weight training, staying super active to get that point.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And then what ends up happening when they reach that 155, let's say that was their target, they go, whoo, okay, I'm gonna relax a little bit. And they're like enough of those crazy three hour hikes or I'm not gonna be taking that high intensity cardio class all the time. Or I'm gonna every once in a while enjoy myself because I'm down this way.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And then what happens is the weight comes back on so rapidly because their body had adapted to eating so low of calories and moving so much that it's just not realistic to maintain that the rest of their life. And so when they just try and be somewhat normal, and that doesn't mean like, and I'm not saying this person goes from discipline and eating hard or anything and exercise like crazy
Starting point is 00:52:54 to all of a sudden like, oh fuck it, and that's what gains them back. No, you don't have to. Literally when you've slowed your metabolism down to 91200 calories a day with intensive training all the time, it doesn't take much for that weight to start piling on, make a couple of bad choices a week. to 900 to 1200 calories a day with intensive training all the time. It doesn't take much for that weight to start piling on. Make a couple bad choices a week and it comes on rapidly.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah, you see this when it's really fast. Everything is all cylinders and going 100%. This is what we caution a lot with our clients coming in. That want to lose a lot of weight is to really consider that you know, you're going to be dramatically dropping calories. It's not sustainable. So to kind of like slowly edge your way down and build muscle at the same time is a better approach. Now I will say this, I'd like to add this as well to this person is also be kind to yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Your body sitting at 195, that's still over hundred pounds lower than where it used to sit before yeah So you've gone a long way and you're still kicking ass and so be okay with that be you know accept the fact that you've gone a long distance Be you know have some gratitude or I should say be proud of that and it's a slow process it takes a long time longer than people realize The the wait keeping the wait off for forever part takes a lot longer, longer than people realize. The weight, keeping the weight off forever part takes a lot longer than getting it off. Well, it takes, you also got to reframe your goal. So a lot of times when the goal is, when you're at 310 and you just want to get the fat off,
Starting point is 00:54:17 you just want to get, you want to lose, you want to make that decision real quick. Yeah, you just want to lose weight. You want to get down, you want to get down, but you really should be focused on building muscle, which means actually increasing calories and protein and strength training, reduction probably of all the high intensity and cardio. And I'm making a lot of assumptions right now, but this is speaking from experience.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Normally the client that you get like in this situation, they cut calories like crazy and they picked up activities. It just turns to carbs. Tons significantly to get to that point. And then they're in this. And this is why we see biggest loser people always pile the weight back on. And the only ones that you see keep it off
Starting point is 00:54:52 for an extended period of time, hire a personal trainer to hammer them every day. There is a small percentage of biggest losers, if you guys don't know, that actually maintain. That's 15%. It's super low. And out of those, almost all of them, like enrolling something or have a trainer coach that they hire to just keep pushing them and keep burning and keep burning.
Starting point is 00:55:12 The most success I ever had with clients like this were when they worked with me. So I was the trainer and then they also had a therapist. And they worked with the therapist. It was always the most successful formula. By far, me by myself, I could do pretty well, especially towards the end of my career, because I got experience, but it just, it wasn't as good.
Starting point is 00:55:30 When they had a therapist working on those behavioral issues on a weekly or biweekly basis, and then they trained with me on top of it two days a week or three days a week, a tremendous success. And there's a couple people that I still keep in contact with who'd lost well over a hundred pounds who've kept it off years and years later. And they still are working with the therapist. They still meet with the therapist once a month or once every of the week.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Next question is from the notorious Abe. When do you implement drop sets and supersets in your workouts? Okay. So drop sets and supersets. First off, a drop set, just people don't know, is when you'll do X amount of reps with a certain weight, and then when you can't do any more good reps, you drop the weight and then you move to a weight that's a little bit lighter and keep going. So an example would be I'm doing curls with 30 pound dumbbells, I do 10 reps, I can't do any more, put the 30s down, grab the 25, squeeze out four more reps, and I keep going as long as you want, right? You can drop down to three times, four times, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Super set is when you combine two exercises without any rest. Now make no mistake, these are both high intensity techniques. So they should be used judiciously, intermittently. Intermittently, and like any style of training, you're better off doing it for three, four weeks, and then moving into something else,
Starting point is 00:56:48 because when you first do drop sets, or you first do super sets, you're gonna get an incredible pump, you might even get some muscle building, but that effect will wear off quite quickly, and then you need to switch to something else. I love tackling this one, because this is, we get this a lot, and here's what I find that,
Starting point is 00:57:04 none of those studies that support Like all the all the benefits of super setting and drop setting don't talk about the real value of it is It's great for a time crunch. You're increasing intensity and shortening the amount of time that you need to do that volume That's what I do. That's exactly how I just did this last week with us right? So we've been training in the in the gym every morning together The other morning I had I was working right now, I'm doing a split where Chess and Backer are one of my work ideas, which Chess and Back
Starting point is 00:57:30 Big Moss Holes easily takes me an hour to get through all the stuff that I wanna do. I was actually on my Instagram and emailing and I was responding. So I was sitting on the couch for the first 20 minutes why these guys were working out. And real quickly the time went by, I knew we had to start to record
Starting point is 00:57:47 and I didn't wanna miss my chest and back day. And so this was my workout. I instantly went to super setting, drop setting, and I had this 20, 30, and I was soar shit the next day because I don't utilize that tool all the time. And to me, this is where I find the most value in it because that doesn't happen. It's not every day.
Starting point is 00:58:07 It's actually not even every week or month where you might catch me sitting down during a workout time messing on my phone for 20 or 30 minutes. But when those times do come, I don't freak out and go like, oh my God, I can't work out. I just write it off and say, I'm not gonna do it. Hey, I still got 20, 30 minutes. I haven't done any super sets and drop sets in a while.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I'm gonna knock this workout in in 20, 30 minutes and still get a great workout in. That's how I just throw them in for fun. Yeah, it's one of those things that's like, there's a couple techniques, a little more advanced, they're a little more crazy. These are those that fit right in where you wanna blow up your muscles,
Starting point is 00:58:40 you wanna get that crazy pump, but it's not something that I'm constantly going to, in terms of like my programming. No, supersets and drop sets are not in the same category as straight sets. That's just a hundred percent. But it is a wonderful tool, and Mainly it's to get a really really good pump. That's what I get from it. Totally abused in the bodybuilding community. Yes. And it's what I used to see all the time with my peers Like they love to suit because it's it's an instant gratification thing. Yeah, you leave the gym, you look good.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yes, to Justin's point, you get this sick pump, you know, which is great, and the adaptations from that sick pump are great, but really only great for those first four to six weeks of messing with it. After you've done that for a while, the adaptations that you give from your body is pretty adapted to it, so you're not getting a ton of benefits if you're doing this consistently.
Starting point is 00:59:24 You'll get way more benefits if you intermittently inject it into your workouts every now and then. And I think the best way to do it personally is the times when you don't have a lot of time. Next question is from Dan Cohen Solow. Is it healthy to have a protein shake every day? Any long term health issues with that? Yeah, so I'll tell you guys a story as a reminder. So I have a lot of cousins and we're all right around the same age, we all grew up together. And I've always been into working out.
Starting point is 00:59:52 So they would always ask me questions about that. And I remember one of my cousins was trying to lose weight. And he, you know, and because he'd asked me questions so many times, I think he was like, I'm not gonna ask Salm, I'm gonna do some stuff and then see what I can do, right? Anyway, he comes to me and he's like, dude, Sal, I'm gaining body fat. I'm trying to get lean, but I keep gaining body fat. I know what the hell is going on. I'm like, well, let's talk about your diet or whatever. And he's like, yeah, so I'm eating this
Starting point is 01:00:17 that and the other goes, and it doesn't make any sense. I take two shakes every day and I'm still getting fat or, well, it's all extra calories, dude. It's calories. So my point with the story is that our protein shakes okay, every day, it really depends if it's throwing your calories over, then you're gonna gain body fat. Is it helping you hit your protein requirements and your calories are good? Then it's gonna be great for you.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Protein shakes are a tool. They can be used in ways that are good and they can be used in ways that are not so good It all depends on your diet. It depends on your goals and the quality of the protein That's another powder too. Yeah, it's like it's interesting because like the common knowledge is that protein shakes are bars are health foods You know, and like we've talked about this and like a lot of them are like super processed and you know have a lot of Like we've talked about this and like a lot of them are like super processed and you know have a lot of different sugars and sugar alcohols that they put in them. And so it's, you know, not all of them are equal.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And also like nothing's going to be just whole foods. And so this is why we stress that first and foremost. And then if, you know, your protein levels aren't where they should be, like this is where we introduce that to complement it, but it's complimentary. It's not like a main food group. I feel like this is very similar to this, the super sick question right before this. This is where we introduce that to compliment it, but it's complimentary, it's not like a main food group. I feel like this is very similar to this super sick question right before this.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I feel like my goal is to always get all my foods through whole, or all my calories through whole foods. The reality is that doesn't happen a lot of times. And when I have to or when I'm low, I always do my shakes at the end of the day. That's just always how I eat it. It's like I look back at my day and I go, that helps you dictate how much.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, and that's, that's, that's a dick takes, if I'm gonna take it or not, I go through my head and I go, and here's the thing. If I, let's say my protein intake, for me, is about 200 grams, right? If I land it like 170, I'm actually still not taking a shake. You know where I'm taking a shake is, and this happens when I have like 70 grams of protein
Starting point is 01:02:04 for the day. You know, there's a day, there's easily a day where two of the meals were good-sized protein meals for me, but then maybe the other one or two were very carb-heavy and I didn't get hardly any or no protein at whatsoever, and I'm sitting at the end of my night right now going, okay, what do you want, Masi? He doesn't like your answer. What do you want? I'm looking at the end of the night. What's he mad at? What's that? He's the like your answer. What do you want? He's like, I'm looking at the end of the night. What's he mad at?
Starting point is 01:02:26 What's that? He's the light detector dog. I don't know how Adam. You be taking shakes all the time. You drink a lot of shakes. What was that all about, guy? Bad dream or what, huh? I don't know where.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Would you do what it went out there, Doug? Was there someone out there? I didn't see anything. Oh, he just went all pissed off right there. No, so I'm using it if and only if I'm not getting adequate protein. But and my goal is always to try and do it through whole food. So, and if I catch myself, which happens, using a protein shake every single day for a few weeks in a row,
Starting point is 01:02:54 that's kind of like I have, you know, the come to Jesus talk with myself and go like, okay, I could be better about making, you know, preparing my foods and making better choices so I don't have to use this all the time. Next question is from Matthew Lemmian. What are your current thoughts on CrossFit? So as a sport, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I love to watch it. As a workout, modality, it sucks. It still sucks. CrossFit's approach to training. Now they've done some amazing things. They've brought some great things to the fitness space. They've done a ton of, they've done a ton of stuff They've brought some great things to the fitness space. They've done a ton of they've done a ton of stuff. A ton of great things for the fitness space. They got people squatting in dead lifting and doing all the best exercises. They got
Starting point is 01:03:31 barbells to be cool, especially with women. Crossfit did that almost single handedly. But the programming that they employ, unless you're going to compete in the sport of Crossfit, isn't very great. You know, case in point in point, Olympic lifts in a fatigue-based circuit. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Very complex exercise where they're safe, but there's a razor thin line between safe and dangerous. Your form goes off a little bit, they're very dangerous. And one of the last things you ever do with exercise like that
Starting point is 01:04:02 is do them to fatigue or for time in a circuit based type of a workout. So for those reasons, the programming, I mean, I think back to all the clients I've trained, and unless they wanted to compete in CrossFit, would I recommend any of them go workout with that CrossFit modality? No, I wouldn't, not at all.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah, I mean, you gotta really evaluate the quality of some of the types of exercises they promote and what kind of environment it is. Like there's, the environment is to be able to get you through as many reps as possible. Like Amrap and all these types of acronyms and things that you attribute to CrossFit. It's really about like trying to make things
Starting point is 01:04:43 as competitive as possible. So you have regular pull-ups turn into kipping pull-ups where you're just getting through this type of momentum where I could just swing my way through this and you have to evaluate what the long-term damage that's going to do to your joints. And it's just like it's appealing to athletes. And so this is why I came out with such a hard stance initially in the beginning because there's a lot of appeal to that type of mentality coming into that environment. Yeah, I'm going to smash it. I'm going to get after it. Everybody in here is, you know, like, you know, we're all suffering together. Like,
Starting point is 01:05:20 it's the environment of suffrage, right? And you know, there's a lot of appeal there. That's what's being promoted in marketing, but they're just not exposed to real training concepts and core values where you get better. You progress. You go through these things. There's a limitation to that, and there's also an injury on the other side of what a lot of the programming presents.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I'm going to be very clear on who I'm talking to and who I'm not talking to. So, if I'm talking to somebody who is pretty young, pretty fit, athletic background, pretty mobile, loves the community, it's made them more consistent than they've ever been their life, they've watched their squat and deadlift progressed, they don't have any aches or pains, and they love it. They love training this way. Like, that's, I'm not talking to you. You're a very small percentage.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I'm talking to the first question that we just had, right? We just had somebody, which is actually more like the people I'm used to training, which is somebody who is trying to lose a bunch of weight, and it's struggling to get to their, you know, or figure out their, quote unquote, set point and get to a place where they can maintain a weight and feel happy about where they're at. This is most people that we train most of our life. And a super intense competitive environment of training is one of the worst things that that person can be in because that person is,
Starting point is 01:06:42 it's not, it's already, it's already tough for that person to get fit and to get in shape. That is not sustainable for most people. And Justin's right, it appeals to that athletic mindset, my ex athletes. But if you are trying to make change to your body and you want whether that be losing body fat or building muscle,
Starting point is 01:07:00 you wanna make a static change, it's just, it's not an ideal modality. It's definitely not, and maybe it is to get some people there, right? They see quick results because of how high intensity is, you're doing all these great compound lifts, and you have the community and the support, and so they think that this is a really good modality that they should stay in.
Starting point is 01:07:17 The reality is it's really tough to train that way for a long period of time. I see some even of our friends that are big CrossFit names, like the Jason Calipa's and stuff. And I pay it, I watch like their Instagram, my buddy Neal Maddick's like, and man, I go, God, I would hate. Here I'm approaching 40 right now
Starting point is 01:07:35 that my workouts always would look like that. I just, I have no desire to train that way. It's just, it's a lot. And then it's a lot for a guy who likes fitness. I love fitness. I love to likes fitness. I love fitness. I love to challenge myself. I love training. And I know how much that's just a lot
Starting point is 01:07:50 to try and get up and train that way all the time. And so if it's that way for me, I know it's that way for many of my clients that were trying to lose a hundred pounds or just want to feel good. And so this, this holds craze around CrossFit. I mean, we predicted it four or five years ago to watch it start to die.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And we've been watching it die off for the last two years. You don't hear nowhere near what you used to hear about it. They said current thoughts. I mean, honestly, I don't even know what that community looks like anymore. I know there was a big shift towards elderly community and kind of changing and restructuring a lot of the programming to be more health conscious and like,
Starting point is 01:08:31 it's interesting to see what's happening. The truth is, it's getting a lot better. Yeah, it's getting a lot better. So I have less problems with, but the reality is why it's getting a lot better because it's getting more like real training. Yeah, so it's moving away from us. So it's not really crossfitting anymore.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Trying to appeal to like actual average people because the the arguments I get into with people about this after because they do courses will piss a bunch of people off that one and fucking stir shit up with us. So bring it. Okay. The conversation I'll get is oh, well, at my box, we do this and we do that. Okay, motherfucker, that's training. Yeah. Okay. That's no longer crossfit anymore. Crossfit like you're under that umbrella anymore. Right. It's and that's what what's happening. The reason why it's still surviving is because they've had to pivot away from what it started. I mean, it started off with a clown throwing up.
Starting point is 01:09:10 You know, that was where we were trying to get everybody to push like that. That's ridiculous. Oh, paralysis. And it's staying around because it has changed and more so much, but then it's just starting to look more and more like real personal training. So it's like, it's not really CrossFit anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:24 So if you are here to argue with me that it's great or your box that you train, well, you probably have a good trainer that works there and realizes him or herself. They're in functional training. Yeah, and they're trying to help you. I get it. Smart.
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