Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1518: The Benefits of Squatting Every Day, How Your Training Style Should Change When Cutting Vs. Bulking, Ways to Prevent Low Back Pain When Deadlifting & More

Episode Date: March 26, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the benefits to following a squat everyday program, changing training style when cutting and bulking, whether artificial sweeteners are as bad for you as sugar, and how to address low back soreness after heavy deadlifts. The NCAA weight room controversy revisited. (3:41) Mind Pump Recommends, Formula 1: Drive to Survive on Netflix. (17:18) Krispy Kreme’s latest promotion is on-trend. (25:37) When you buy your dream house, but the seller refuses to leave. (27:46) Snapchat’s latest acquisition has Adam intrigued. (30:56) Trump is launching his own social media platform. (35:16) Mind Pump Recommends, Made You Look: A True Story About Fake Art on Netflix. (36:53) The benefits of Organifi’s probiotic supplement when you have a late-night craving like Adam. (41:34) How nobody wants to be in reality anymore. (44:40) Magic Spoon to the rescue to save you from cravings. (50:23) #Quah question #1 – Are there any benefits to following a squat everyday program? (53:13) #Quah question #2 - When cutting or bulking, should your style of training change? (1:01:17) #Quah question #3 – Are artificial sweeteners as bad for you like sugar, and how do they affect blood sugar, etc.? (1:06:58) #Quah question #4 - How do you address low back soreness after heavy deadlifts? (1:16:07) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Specials: Get in Shape for Summer! MAPS HIIT, MAPS Spilt, and the Bikini Bundle all half off! – Promo code “SPRINGBREAK” at checkout Under Fire, The NCAA Apologizes And Unveils New Weight Room For Women’s Tournament Formula 1: Drive to Survive | Netflix Official Site Ferrari denies Marlboro influence on Formula One logo Mind Pump #1115: The Amazing Adventures Of Tommy Caldwell, Star Of Netflix’s The Dawn Wall Krispy Kreme offers free glazed donut to those who show Covid vaccine card Couple buys California dream home, but seller refuses to move out in eviction moratorium loophole Snap’s latest story: An acquisition to power up its ecommerce apparatus Trump hints at launching his own social media platform Made You Look: A True Story About Fake Art | Netflix Infamous Jesus painting restoration inspires opera about the woman who botched it Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout* Ready Player One (2018) - IMDb Bitcoin tumbles from record highs as India eyes crypto ban Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Resistance Training for Beginners – Mind Pump Blog The Most Overlooked Muscle Building Principle – Mind Pump Blog Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Fitness Products How Bad Are Artificial Sweeteners? - Mind Pump Blog Should You Cut Artificial Sweeteners Out Of Your Diet? - Mind Pump Blog Kitchen Sink Challenge | Man v. Food | Travel Channel Mind Pump TV - YouTube What Is The Prerequisite For The Deadlift? - Dr. Jordan Shallow How To Sumo Deadlift (The RIGHT Way) | Jordan Syatt 4 Cues To Improve Your Deadlift With Eugene Teo Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Connor Murphy (@connormurphyofficial) on Instagram Tommy Caldwell (@tommycaldwell) on Instagram Gary Vay-Ner-Chuk (@garyvee)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram Jordan Syatt (@syattfitness)  Instagram Eugene Teo (@coacheugeneteo)  Instagram

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We mentioned our sponsors, we talk about scientific studies. Here's the rundown of today's episode. By the way, the intro portion was 50 minutes long. Ooh, a long one, so. So we opened up by talking about that weight room controversy with the women and men's basketball teams, so we did a little follow-up there. We talked about it before, brought it up again. So we deal a little follow up there.

We talked about it before, brought up again. Then we talked about a show on Netflix called Formula One. Apparently it's awesome. I talked about how crispy cream has got a great way to motivate people to get vaccinated. You know, go get diabetes, get fat. So great combo. I talked about a couple that bought a house.

Couldn't get it because the guy they bought it from decided not to leave and they're in California which means he wins. Come kick me out, try. Then we talked about Snapchat. I guess they're making some big moves. Didn't even know they still existed, that's because I'm old. Then we talked about how Trump is gonna start

his own social media company. Hmm, didn't see that coming. That's actually weird. That's where we did. Then we talked about a documentary called Made You Look. Sounds very interesting. We talked about a botched art restoration. That was hilarious. You got to check that out.

Adam talked about how he ate a polar pizza the other night. It's a big ol' ice cream pizza to his face. He was feeling a little emotional in the press, I think. That must be it. Then we talked about Organify. It is a company that we work with that makes some really good organic vegan-based supplements. Go check them out and get 20% off with the Mind Pump Discount.

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with their product. Then we got into the questions. Here's the first one. This person wants to know if there's any benefit to squatting every single day. The next question, this person wants to know if you should change your workout style if you're trying to drop weight or if you're trying to gain muscle. The third question, this person wants to know if artificial sweeteners are as bad for you as sugar. And the final question, this person wants to know how to address low back soreness after heavy dead lifts. One more thing before the

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no space for the discount. This is what I like. I really enjoy. My best friend who I talk about that say, you know, he doesn't think he's liberal, but he's very liberal for sure, right? He's a principal at a high school and like a lot of his political views

link that way, which I enjoy, because we're best friends, and so we argue it out all the time. And you know, there's certain things that, you know, he brings to light that I was unaware of from his perspective, and I go, okay, I get that a little bit, right? So we are making the case about, you know, the weight room, okay, get that a little bit, right? So we are making the case about,

you know, the weight room being like, it's market-driven, right? I mean, the women's basketball versus the men's. Yeah, yeah, right? So we made that case the other day, and it's con viral, and it's causing all kinds of stink and everything like that. In fact, by the way,

NCAA responded right away, and they set up the girls weight room. Which, by the way way is a market response. Right, because they were about to suffer. They were about to suffer the consequences of people who thought this was so bad and so unfair. Yes. So that is a market response, like protesting in front of a business or putting bad reviews. Right.

Is a market response like buying stuff? And totally, totally for all that. And then my buddy brought up other points, because we were talking about it being, you know, a market response and, you know, the men's basketball team that produces $700 million a year at the tournament and then the women's tournament actually loses money and the most women's programs and basketball lose money or blah, blah, blah. Well, he's like, it doesn't matter.

None of these athletes get paid. They're not getting paid for that. It'd be different if we're talking about free markets where the men are actually getting money for making that. And well, the school does. And that's always been a debate. Should we allow them to make money?

Yeah, but so back to what my argument was with you a little bit, was that Title IX does cover that. And that's why it is unfair is because Title IX basically says that the school gets this allotted money and they have to evenly distribute it regardless of which side whether the men or the women are now that's federal money that you're talking about yes right but the money that the universities get isn't just the federal money right correct they get lots of money from merchandise and people paying that's what makes this kind of murky though right is because they're they're not

only taking money on, but then they're also making money on what's. You know, here's the thing. I actually just got in a debate with Connor. You guys know Connor with his podcast. And I love talking about this kind of stuff because we can, you know, we're usually on different sides

and we'll have these great discussions. And I tell him, I'm like, look, you know, markets are what they are and standing on the outside and looking at them and saying that's unfair. It's not a It's not an accurate way to judge it. I'll give you an example. Okay. I could argue very very strongly that That teachers are more valuable than Beyonce. Very I could make that argument. Hey a teacher is teaching kids They're responsible for raising our youth.

And I've had good teachers in the past that had a tremendous impact on me. Right. I don't think anybody would argue that. A teacher will never make more than Beyonce. Beyonce makes tremendous amounts of money. Now, why is that? And it seems unfair, right? It seems like it's, how's that fair? Teachers is so much more valuable.

It's because there's a strong demand for what Beyonce does, and there's only one Beyonce. There's only very few people that can do that. Now with teachers, there's definitely demand, but there's also a huge supply of people willing to be teachers. So the cost or the value of that service is far lower. So people like Beyonce or professional athletes

are gonna make more money than teachers or social service workers or even doctors, there's surgeons who save lives all the time don't make as much money as Tom Brady does, right? So this is just the way it is. And the way you need to look at it is you need to look at it like a mirror. This isn't the responsibility of us.

If we think it's a problem, it's our spending. Well, that's when you come, that's when you come from a very free market point of that just human behavior. Yeah, but I mean, that's what you had to understand. And this was like my buddy, like my buddy leans with like a lot of these socialist ideas, right, that the government should come in and even this out. You know, if it was up to them, they would want, you know, teachers to get paid more.

Let's take some more money from Beyonce and let's move it over to the teachers. So they make more money. Well, see, the problem with that is, and I can see you can argue specifics and you can make some, you know, some, what's sound to be compelling arguments. The problem is is we're blaming a system

on human behavior. So, human, and this is why income inequality exists, and this way, inequality will always grow, is because, and that means the gap, right? The poor versus the rich or the middle class versus the rich. The reason why that will always exist is because we're value driven. So, humans always, we make decisions based off of value. Every decision you make is based off of. The reason why you work where you work is because it's the best option that you had available versus other options.

The reason why I wore this shirt today is because I chose it over other shirts and so on. Everything is value based. If there's people that provide tremendous value, by the way, judging what people consider valuable, it's a losing game. The top websites on the internet are pornography. I can make an argument that they're not valuable at all. Obviously, to people, they are valuable. Is that mean that it's good for them or whatever?

No, but people value, so they're the ones that are making this decision. People value things, and when people can provide something that a lot of people value, people give them their money. So Jeff Bezos, for example, is it tremendously wealthy, but he's tremendously wealthy because Amazon provides a lot of people, a lot of value, where the ones that voluntarily gave him this money and did the stuff.

And then as far as wealth is concerned, it's not a zero-sum game, meaning if I have more, that means that there's less going around. That only happens when I steal, right? So like back in the day when we would plunder, yeah, that made sense. Like there was only so much gold, and I come and my army would defeat yours and I take your stuff. Your poor now, I'm rich. In markets, wealth grows because things become more efficient. We start to innovate. But here's what happens.

The more specialized you are and the more value you provide, the more you're gonna make versus someone who's less specialized and less valued. Now, this also means that the person providing all his value and innovation lifts everybody up. So what that means is that today, if you were lower middle class, you have way more wealth than someone 50 years ago who was lower middle class.

Here's some other facts. This is just the bottom line. When you invest your money, if you invest $100,000 and I invest $10,000 in the same investment, and they both grow 10%, we both made 10%, but you made 10 grand, I made one grand. So now your wealth in total dollars grew much more than mine, even though they both grew at 10%.

So we're looking at this and we're saying, we're judging things, but I tell you what, find me a system that you wanna be in a system where there's a smaller gap, but everybody's more poor and there's way less innovation. You can go to North Korea, and by the way, the gap there's massive if you look at the ruling class, like the leaders and the people who barely have enough food. But if you cut out the leaders, yeah, there's much more equal. Everybody's much closer together. But everybody's equally poor, you know?

Well, with this thing, I've found a couple things really ironic, right? So Sunday, and I totally set my buddy up because I knew this was what was gonna happen. So he's like, we're fighting back and forth and over this, this was like Friday, Saturday's conversation. Well Sunday rolls around. And in my house, I have my Katrina is a division one basketball player. So we watch women's basketball in my house.

And so I sent a text message to my buddy that was advocating for the women's weight room and so at that and I I said, hey, what do you do? I said, what are you doing right now? He was like playing with his daughter. And I think they were watching like some Disney movie or something like that. I said, that's funny. I said, the guy who wants to advocate for women being equal with their weight room and getting just as much funding as a guy is one of the best ways that you could do that is to support them by watching them or buying their jerseys. I was like, it's so funny to me that people that are getting all fired up about this,

I'm like, they've probably never given a single dollar. They just need to be reminded of that. You know, like it's one thing to say something, but really it's the actions that move people in a direction for change. Yeah, and it sucks because it means you have to take responsibility. Yeah, you actually have to do something about it.

Which nobody wants to do. It's like driving a lot of these causes out there. Dude, it's like driving around and complaining about, you know, crime or whatever. Oh, it's always crime, it's always crime. And yet, you don't do anything about it. You don't try to advocate for police. You don't try to, you know, set up things yourself.

Yeah. You know, it's like the kid that lives at home that complains about not getting dinner. Yeah. And you're like, go make some things. Yes. Funny. I've been sitting in on these Zoom calls and I haven't found a Beyonce yet. I'm going to be honest. You know, the second most ironic thing about this debate, this will be the last thing that the animal dropped this conversation, but I just I think it's going viral right now. Everybody's talking and fighting about it. And I was,

you know, my buddies, there's three of us, right, that were going back and forth. And then finally, one of my buddies posed the best question of all. He says, what division one coach is letting their players lift weights between games? And I go, I started laughing, I go, exactly, dude. I'm all this is like smoking mirrors

because I don't know, I don't know a single coach that would let their athlete go do squats or deadlifts between a tournament. I mean, all your weight training and hardcore training is in preparation of the big dance of the big game like that. You might be doing some rehab shit. Exactly. If you rehab are just trying to maintain your stamina or something, but yeah, not mid season or like, especially like when you're

in a competitive championship, you're gonna turn them in. Yeah, you're playing basketball. You're not working out. Every other day. I mean, you were your rest recovery on days off. You're an ice bath. You're doing infrared. You're getting massages.

That's what I mean. You're doing mobility. You're doing, you're stretching. You don't say you're not pounding the waist't say, you're not pounding the waist. Yeah, you're not in there squatting and deadlifting. Dude, come on. So this whole thing is hilarious to me because it's like, who the fuck is even doing that?

Like, I think it just happened to be that they had access to that at this, because they're in different facilities completely. So one facility probably had this big, old weight room area and the other one didn't. And so it turned into this huge. Well, it's just a picture that shows such a, you know, discrepancy between the two. And I think that's why I went so viral.

Yeah, I think it's because we equate the effort that people put into things with value. So we say they work just as hard and they do their train their asses off and they do. Yep. And and why aren't they doing, why aren't they making them? It's because we don't value their basketball as much. That's it, that's the bottom. You know what they, you know, it's equivalent of this. What if they, what if instead of showing the weight room, they showed the crowd, this is not fair.

Look at the massive crowd for the men's basketball game. And look at this tiny crowd for the women. But they wouldn't do that, right? Because that then is on us. Right, right. It looks like an animal. And of course that points moot right now everybody's going, hey, there's no crowds anywhere, of course, you know.

So, I mean, but I mean the audience on TV. Well, on a normal, right? So yeah, your point is valid, but right now there's no crowds. Yeah. Do you guys remember when you pieced that together with training in season that you should not hammer yourself with weights in season? Why, it came around.

So when we were kids, we knew nothing, right? So it was. It was to be you up all the time. Yeah, yeah, when you were a kid, we were doing everything wrong. That's why I think I asked Justin when we first brought this up, like what his coaches were, what level they were at because he obviously

went a lot further in sports. But I feel like now, I mean, the amount of information that is out there, like once you're at the, beyond the high school level, you would know. Oh, yeah. It's completely like a different, every time you go up a level, like so from high school to then college to then, you know,

if you're in a bigger division, division one, and then you go into like, you know, minors or pros, like you're gonna get a completely different type of coach, hopefully. But I definitely, like we would start backing off of even a lot of the intensity, like midweek leading into competition because it's just like, let's stay healthy, let's stay fresh, let's just go over our skills

and, you know, but in high school, we're just bashing each other's brains out and telling like, gang day, you know? It's like, what are we doing? Like, have people show up half injured? No, gains come off season. And then during the season, your goal is to keep yourself from getting hurt.

And not to mention that, especially a sport, like a finesse sport like basketball, you do not, what's wrong, Mazi? Who just got here? He's in his ass. He doesn't like your argument. You can kick him out, Doug, if he doesn't usually bother on you.

Dude, you think of basketball as a finesse sport, so that you can't have tight shoulders. You know what I'm saying? You can't be sore in your legs. Like, you need to be completely fresh when you're playing a game or else that slightest bit of being tight. Joint health is at the utmost concern. Yeah, dude.

So I don't know. I thought it was pretty funny. That is pretty hilarious. I remember piecing that together as an early trainer. I had a gentleman that I trained that was, he was a coach and he was the one that told me that. He goes, you go, you go, you have a trained young athlete,

so at this point I was a new trainer. So I may know, no, I have it, and he goes, here's one thing to keep in mind. Always make sure that if you're gonna train them to get stronger and train them hard, that it's off season. When they're in season, just keep them from getting hurt. And I was like, mind blown.

Cause I was a new trainer and not having tons of experience with lots of organized sports. Remember I was like, mind blown. Cause I was a new trainer and not having tons of experience with lots of organized sports. I remember I was young, I was 18 years old. I thought if I trained a young athlete, yeah, I'm gonna make them, you know, crush all the time. Don't do that, you'll get them hurt.

Oh yeah, I ended up doing that. Hey, have you guys seen the series on Netflix called Formula One? No. Yeah, actually I watched a few episodes. Okay, so I just started watching it, right? I guess it's on season three. I didn't see it pop in my queue until recently. And so Katrina and I started watching it.

Now, I have to preface this with like, I do not know hardly anything about Formula One. So for those that are like big fans, if I mess up on some facts here, not as big here in the States. It's definitely huge. Huge, huge, huge, huge, one. Right, right. So here's something. Okay, now I remember in the 90s, okay. Now I have a very vivid memory of like the Mario and Dreadie and the like the Mar-Bro car. The Mar-Bro car. Right. Okay. So do you know that that doesn't exist anymore? Are you familiar with this?

No. Okay. So in 2005, Europe put out like a law that you cannot advertise cigarettes anymore, anything. Like you can't TV, radio, and because of, oh, cigarettes in particular. Right. Cigarettes in particular. And by the way, Marble was partnered with Ferrari. They had like the most dominant run,

they still are the most dominant run ever in like formula I think in formula one again correct me if I'm wrong, but I know that they're one of the most dominant forces in formula one So we're watching this series My this happened it reminds you I did my research to find out that this happened in 05 I don't know this and we're watching and I'm like you know Katrina and I are watching together So I'm trying to explain to her a little bit about what I know, like the points kind of do this and there's two guys per team and and I'm watching them like where's the marble car at? And she's like, what what are you talking about? I'm like, well, I mean, Ferrari and marble have always been paired together forever. And so this sends me down the the

nerdy rabbit hole that I could figure this out. And I find out that Marbles been pulled since 2005. And so I'm like, oh, wow, that sucks. But then I find out that Marble still is giving a ton of money towards the race program. So what they did, and this happened, I think in 06 or 07 the first time, and this was fucking brilliant. Okay, Google this dog, check out Marble paint job on for a controversial paint job. So Marble has Ferrari paint the car. And from a bird's eye view, it looks like a pack of cigarettes. Oh wow, so they got around the regulations.

Yes. Wow, that is brilliant. That is brilliant. It's so brilliant. They were pissed too, by the way. Like they were up in arms about it because. The smoke that comes out of the exhaust is to be- No, it hadn't.

So it looks like there's lines. And it looks like a barcode. It literally looks like a pack of marble cigarettes from a bird's eye view and then driving around the track. So the concept was, okay, we'll send a sublib and all message to this. That is brilliant. I know.

Do you know how much money, they talk about how much money goes into the- Stupid. You know how much it's ridiculous. They're like fighter jets. Yeah, yes. Yes, take a guess at like what, like in average. So there's a big discrepancy by the way, of like a small team that's coming up versus like a,

like engineers and everybody they have involved in these cars. You want a car cost for the build one of those? 500 to 500 million. Wow. Yeah, and you know that they pass regulations to because they get so good with the tech that the cars get so fast Then they have to pass new regulations to prevent them from all the time. Yes It's crazy. I mean, they're basically fighter jets that stay on the ground

I mean, they're they're pretty much like and they might as well have like You know like jet engines in them. I'm so sucked into the series now. I didn't think I was gonna like it I'm like all into it. Oh yeah, look at that. So the one on the top right. See how it has a bar code and stuff? So this is all pre, right? So back when you can, back here, the old marble, that's what, I mean, that's,

I have that image in my mind for Formula One. Formula One, I can just see the Ferrari, the Mario and Dready car, like them winning all the time. And then after they get banned, this is the direction they go over here to the right. So I got my family members that they watch Formula One like people here watch The Super Bowl. It's like, oh yeah, they'll wake up at 3 a.m.

to watch Ferrari race or whatever, and it's like a big deal. It's like a big source of national pride. Yeah, I was gonna say, they're always in there. I, one thing I don't understand, I never could understand is how the drivers can make the decisions that they make in control. Like I remember, as one time as a kid, I watched the inside of a cockpit for one of those

funny car dragsters, like six second, quarter miles or whatever. And I remember like a blur. Yeah. How do you know what you're doing? It doesn't make any sense. You know what I brought up to Katrina? I don't know if you can find this, I was trying to find this so maybe you can.

Remember when we interviewed, not Alex, but the other guy, the rock climber, you can't even give his name right now. But he called well. Yeah, yeah, so and they said that, they both have had like those brain scans and they're missing that connection to the front or it's like what matter percentage

they just don't feel right yeah they don't feel they don't feel like fear right they have to do something like almost death defying just to even get a little bit of an adrenaline rush I said I wonder if anyone's ever done that same scan on these drivers because I would imagine and when you hear they're interviewing them in the show when you hear them talking to them they're just like most of them are just they know they're they're pushing the boundaries of everything that is

Deftify and they're willing to die to win like so I feel like they have that It reminds me of when Justin went in the what was the jet that it's called the Thunderbirds. Yes, it reminds me of that when he came back and told us about the Gs and stuff Yeah, and I'm like how do they they, how do this all the time? Yeah. They know what they're doing. Yeah. Could you imagine being under pressure,

you're getting fired at and you're doing this crazy shit in this jet and your brain is coming out of your ears. How do you even know? It's a different kind of human, yeah for sure. It does like my, my little taste of what, you know, like crazy people actually do. Oh, all the time. And if you guys have ever, so I've like, my uncle used to race go carts

when we were kids, and I was talking to Trina this, I was like, they just brought up all these members because a lot of these guys, that's how these kids get into this. They start them really early. Like you know, all said in like, at 30 years old,

I'm gonna try driving a Formula One car, you know what I'm saying? Like you've progressed as a kid. You drive on a dirt track, you have like the figure eight, you ever got into those? Yeah, so my uncle used to do this and so we he had this like like was a kid I thought it was unbelievably fast probably went 60 miles an hour but 60 miles an hour you know when

you're a quarter of the floor on the ground it feels like you're going to a miles an hour so imagine those things push 200 miles an hour I can't imagine and I'm sure you've all been in a very fast car being in a fast car that's sitting off the ground a foot to two feet is totally different feeling than hovering on the ground. I was in years ago, I had a buddy who got, he had a Toyota Supra.

Remember the twin turbo Supra from the, it was the 90s or whatever, or 2000s? And he souped it up like crazy and he's like, let's go for a ride. And that was the last time I ever got in a car with him. He 170 something miles an hour on the freeway we hit. And that was terrifying. So you know, De La Viega, like when I was, I think I was 15 or 14 or 15.

And they have a, they have a Formula One car that has like a two-seater. And they do like runs where they go on the track. They put you in. Yeah, so I did that. My dad paid for it and I went on the track. The track, it was so freaky. Yeah, because they, well, I don't think they even turn it up like half of what, you know, the guys are racing,

like at the speeds that they're doing, but when you go to approach a turn, you're just like, oh my God, you think you're gonna totally like flip and spin out and all of a sudden, it just grabs. Like it's on rail. And then he accelerates through it. You know, and you're like,

oh, it's, it doesn't make sense. But they get the physics down. You got to do with those? Yeah, I did that. Oh no way, a long time. Where, where is that at? So yeah, De La Viga. Where is that, where is that?

What, Mon-ray? Oh, my direction, no kidding. I didn't know that. Yeah, so it would be fun as shit. Nah. Oh, it was great, man. No, my direction, no kidding, I didn't know that. Yeah, so it'd be funny shit. Nah. Oh, it's great, man. No, thank you, cool. Really?

Dude, I get car sick if I don't sit in the front seat. That's true. If I sit in the back and you're driving the speed limit, I'm like, oh, that's true. That's true, I see. You put me in one of those cars, it could be, blah! Yeah, we used to be at a car show,

there's like all these car shows there. And so like they had one of those is like the, you know, the feature of like something cool to do. And like, yeah, my dad and I went to a lot of the drag races and like it's here's point and all that. So we were real into that. That's awesome. Yeah.

You guys want to hear some hilarious, I guess this is a hilarious promotion. People, I don't know, I'm sure a lot of people are audience, we'll get the irony of this. But Krispy Kreme, you guys know Krispy Kreme. By the way, you guys like Krispy Kreme? I never understood the excitement about that. I did, like everybody in Chicago went Gaga for it. Like it was, I remember it's telling the story like, they're the worst donut in my life. Yeah, so they actually throw a lot of it away because they just keep the fresh stuff. And so my friend knew this and like would, we'd be driving on the freeway and it was like,

I don't know, it was like two in the morning or something and he's like, what's stopped by here? And he would like, haggle the guy to get all the stuff he's just throwing. So he goes back, we go back to college campus with literally a trash bag full of donuts. No way. Yeah, and I'm like, do you get diabetes? Yeah. He did not care.

You guys were heroes a bit. Oh yeah, everybody's like, yeah, the bag of donut. It's like a day old donut. Oh, that's great. So yeah, anyway, I'm not a fan. Never, never a fan. I never understood. I ate it once.

I'm like, why is everybody excited about this? I like winchels or whatever. So that was a winchels game. Yeah, way better. Anyway, so Krispy Kreme came out with a promotion. If you show them that you got a vaccine for COVID, so if you go with your vaccine card, you can get a free donut every day.

Health for a year. Whoa, it's a great combo. Yeah, that's the thing. It's literally one of the number one. That was the soda. Remember, I brought the soda thing when they were doing the whole, the getting the test done and Pepsi was like sponsoring it

and stuff like that. Yeah, that's hilarious. Hey, my problem. That's like one step, but it's just like anything else. You know what, the whole thing that, oh, no, I got that, I'm good. It's back to the point I brought up the other day with my client that I told you is just like,

you're going the wrong direction at him by trying to follow the fitness trend. Like where the money is at is the people that are getting obese. And so the truth is, you know, that's smart marketing on Krispy Kruz. That's why our next promotion will let everybody know right now if you get a maps program. We'll send you free donut

I mean, I'm sure some people got excited I mean planet fitness did it you know I'm saying they were they were smart with the same thing Did they can't do it though right now you guys know that right what is a COVID? Yeah, plan of fitness now doesn't have any free pizza. I think their membership dropped 20% You guys want to hear something else that's ridiculous. Yeah. So there was a call, I just read this story, and apparently this is happening all over California right now.

This couple back in January of 2020, bought a brand new house in, I think it was Riverside, put half a million dollars down on this house. So it must be a massive, beautiful house. Buys the house, everything closes. The California passes the law that you can't evict anybody because of COVID or whatever. So the owner, the previous owner who collected their money

refused to leave the house. So for one year, they own this fucking house and the guy who took their money is still there and nobody can help them. What? They went to the police, the sheriff, and the sheriff's like, you know, if you were in Arizona, we'd be able to get him out, but there's nothing we could do in California. So the guy took their money.

I've heard a bunch of horror stories like this. And he's staying there. You gotta get a guy. Yeah. Dude, like, under cover. This is when weird shit happens, you know what I'm saying? This is when you like, you know, you know, that is not gonna stand.

No, could you imagine you give someone half a million dollars to buy his house? Yeah. And say, I'm not gonna leave. Make me leave. Make me leave. Oh, I'm protected. Oh, that's crazy.

Yeah, that's when you, I don't know what you do. Tell your, tell my cousin Vito. Oh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you got it in real trouble before. I know. Yeah, I know. I think it's keep your money, you go to jail, and it gets the house. I know.

I'm just saying, I know. You know, you're in a... Are you right-handed or left-handed? Why are you wondering? No, no, I just want to know real quick. If you're right or left-handed. Do you like your thumbs? I can't believe that.

Can you believe that? Dude. So apparently it's happening all over the place. No, that's maddening. No, I've told you, I heard some stories of... So I have a Katrina's friend, her husband rents a couple properties and they had somebody they couldn't evict like that.

And they finally got somebody out and then they actually, somebody else came in and squatted. So they finally, they went through this battle for a while. Somebody else comes in squats, goes out, furnishes the place and the cops show up and they're like, this is all my furniture, this is my house, and then it cops tell him, we can't do anything. So I have a family member who has a place in Tahoe

and the guy stopped paying rent, couldn't kick the guy out, and not only did the guy not pay rent, but then he sold the furniture in there, which was my family member's furniture, sold it all. Now, he says he got rid of it because the dog did something to it up. But anyway, they finally got him out,

took him a year and a half to get the guy out, and they go in there and the place is trashed, and his furniture and appliances are gone. So he's like, well, I do, dude. You know it. I would literally just start living in there with them. And make their life a living hell. You know, I do, dude. You know it. I would literally just like start living in there with them. Like their life and living hell. You know?

I can't get rid of you either. Like, oh, yeah, exactly. You can't get rid of me. Try and get rid of me. I can just see Justin right now, I think there's a robe with no underwear on. I can drink a chicken coffee the more you like this. Oh, wake up.

Just fuck it up. I'm just fucking looking at him every morning. Take your shit in a pop. Yeah. I'm going to bathroom right now. Let's just be the most obnoxious human being ever. Then it's just a game of attrition. It is.

See who could be the most annoying. Stair Adam. Yeah. That sounds like a great movie plot. I feel like that would be a great movie plot. Did you guys see the Snapchat big acquisition? They just bought this company. Can't think of the name of it.

Snapchat. No. Anyway, subscribe to that. I was reading. You know, I just, I'm, we're not on Snapchat, I don't know, none of us are, right? So I think it's the demographic is 14 to 24, right? But it's still growing. They have 265 million visits a day.

I didn't even know it was still doing well. I thought it was still gone. It is still rapidly growing. Oh wow. And in 265 million visits, the average person opens it up and checks it 30 still doing well. I thought they were gone. It is still rapidly growing. And in 265 million visits, the average person opens it up and checks it 30 times a day. So they partnered with this company that does like analytics for like Patagonia

and a bunch of these other big brands. And they're really making a big push on the advertising side. So huge, I bought some of the stock this morning. So reason why I'm running. So do you think a company will buy them like Instagram, like Facebook? They already said no, they were offered someone offered to buy them a while back. Okay, so I'm going to sound like a funny, dirty, but so Snapchat, explain that to me.

You go on there, you do. It's no different than Instagram stories right now. So Instagram stories was the answer to it. So, the whole site is that. But here's why it's... I thought it was, you send a picture someone and it disappears after they look at it. Yeah, it does, too.

So, Instagram has the same feature. Yeah, yeah. So, they have the same feature. Instagram has all the same stuff, basically, right? And they were the first one to do the filters. They were the first one to do the disappearing stuff. Oh, right, right. But here's why it's still of great value and why I bought stock is they they own

the 14 to 24 year olds. And it's not it's not a play today. It's a play for tomorrow. As long as they stay there. Well, yeah, I mean, the idea is if you continue to evolve the app and and and provide value and bring that audience along and bring that audience along, that you will be able to you got a 265 million people checking in on your your app every single day that's a lot of eyes on you see I thought they all moved over to tiktok for some reason I felt like that same demographic was like okay this is like where everybody's gonna hang out now well tiktok is a little bit different right tiktok gets more of the dance dance people right the people that are trying to do all the funny,

yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen to a bunch of old funny dance. The mockerina, fucking. Honestly, tell me it's not literally the mockerina social network, right? Where you have my dick. When I see 40-year-olds on TikTok, doing their thing, the nurses,

they just hate you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or they're like, you know, 40-year-old fitness person or health person. Hey, yeah, carbs, protein, fat. Yeah, you know, this is what I'm like, dude, that's the most embarrassing thing. I feel so embarrassed. I blame Gary V.

I'm just, Gary V is so influential in our space, everybody's space right now. He says so. Yes, if he goes, this is the next app, you know, you got enough of these 40, 50 year olds that are like, I need to do this. I see, I asked myself constantly, would my kids be embarrassed by this?

And if the answer's yes, then I probably, you have to use it as your bench app. I don't always not do it, but usually I won't do it. So I think I'm gonna dance in front of Instagram, would my kids be embarrassed? Oh yeah, they'd be embarrassed. Yeah, they better not do that. Well, especially when it just doesn't,

to me, it's a big leap For me for you know, okay, I let's say I did let's say I was real let's pretend I've for a minute that I was really good at dancing and singing And I could do these things in a universe Unbelievable land right so I let's say I'm really good and I get millions of people viewing me The leap to selling the maps fitness programs just is just massive for me. So these people, how does that work? Yeah, so do you want big biceps? Right, you want nice ass. So these doctors and trainers that are doing it, it's just like, you know, and I don't I don't see that translating very well, you know,

I just and maybe I'm maybe I'm just too old to understand and there's some kids. This is different. I don't entertain it. I mean, I really don't see any other value. Lots of views and eyes doesn't necessarily mean. Yeah. And that's what, and so that's part of why I heard that

why so many people are drawn to it is because it's easier to get more attention. Yeah, but that doesn't mean, it doesn't mean anything if it doesn't turn into. Well, no, I agree with you. Yeah, in fact, attention without, in my opinion, I'm a surgeon, I can do the worm. Yeah, getting lots of attention without it converting

to me is a nightmare. You're famous for no reason. Now you're, I have to deal with the bullshit of that, but you're not making any money off of it. Speaking of social media, I hate to say it, but we predicted something a while ago. What's that? For the listeners who've been listening

to live with you in the bathroom. A while ago. We called it, so Trump announced that, or they said that he's gonna create his own social media company. Yeah, I mean, that's a course. And I mean, we just kicked off all platforms, we think he's getting.

And not only that, but he's been saying fake news for such a long time. Right. He's essentially setting himself up for a guaranteed special. I'm the least proud about this special. I'm the least proud of this. I'm the least proud of this. It seems obvious. Yeah, to me, it's very obvious.

Like you said, he's not that far at least. Fake news forever that it's, I mean, it's in grain. I mean, it's become people's lexicon now. I mean, how many people even just joking around with friends are, oh, that's fake news. Right. You know, I'm saying like, he is, and just look at, you know, I feel like he even ran for president just out of spite, you know, because like,

like people told me couldn't do it. Well, we, I mean, we talked off-air about that, like way, way before he even became president and he was just running. A lot of us were like, dude, this is just, he's a businessman. This is just a play to build a business after this. Totally. There was no doubt in my mind that- Yeah, because you could pivot so many different ways.

Anybody could, right? If you become president, typically when people become president afterwards- That's what they make all their money. Way more money, right? Speaking engagements or appearances or whatever, but a media company makes perfect sense. He's been saying fake news forever. He got kicked off all media platforms.

He's got a huge base, right? Of people that will want to follow him. And then he's got a huge amount of people that don't like him, but can't kick their eyes off of him. So his own media network, it's like guaranteed win. So did you guys, I watched this documentary over the weekend, it was really fascinating.

I'm not very familiar with the art world. I know, I don't know if you guys have ever been auctions and bought yourself an art piece or how that all works. Yeah, so I think this documentary is called Made You Look. But I watched it. Yeah, I just went over, it was really fascinating, like how all of these people got totally hoodwinked.

They got totally scammed by a few people that, I mean, you find out later, and this is kind of like spoiler alert, but this Chinese guy was basically able to copy I mean, you find out later, and this is kind of like spoiler alert, but you know, this Chinese guy was basically able to copy a lot of really famous artists, like Pollock and Rothko and Motherwell, I think, was the main three, but was able to literally copy their style, and they'd find old canvases. And then he would paint like what was supposed to be like a new undiscovered painting that they painted, that they found.

They have this whole backstory for it and everything. So like I was super fascinated by one. Did you do you believe that she was in on at the dealer? Yes. Oh, you do. I do. Oh, wow. I thought she was in there.

Because dealers make a cut. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, dude, look at her still. She's still a business. I know that's fascinating to me which I'm like What I was also really you know, I was really fascinated also by that in China I guess this is this is a common practice. It's actually not like fraud and a bad thing like there's like a lot of other artists that they actually they try to mimic somebody else in In the better your art. Like here in America, it's more popular to create something new and different.

Where there, it was like, you're proving it, you're a very skilled artist, is the ability to study all these different artists and actually, I can see that as form of flattery, but they were signing the back like they were the artist. Oh yeah, I'm not defending this motherfucker at all. I'm just saying, that's a clear and definitive difference. Yeah, you know, that's, you know, intent to, you know not defending this motherfucker at all. I'm just saying like that's that's a clear and definitive difference. Yeah, you know, it's that's that's you know

Intent to you know pass this off and get money. He got away with it too. He would be flew back to he got his money He was gone. Yeah, well he didn't he didn't get hardly any money at all. No, that's the fucked up part. Yeah, they were they're They're fully extorting his talent. Yeah, the fuck and that's where I don't feel bad that he got away with all of this because He's like this old old Chinese guy And he was just like he loved painting. You could tell he was very talented He was making a little bit of money, but he was not making these guys It was real art like like people were just stunned at these you know paintings and they were like willing to pay His money for it. So it had value

It just was that it was presented as these famous artists. Did you guys remember years ago, there was a woman who worked in a museum and she was restoring, did you guys hear about this? She was restoring a piece of artwork that was valued, I don't know what, and she was cleaning it and apparently she accidentally wiped some of the face off of the painting. And then she went to fix it. Have you guys seen this? No. Maybe Doug can find it. I didn't know this.

It's the worst restoration you've ever seen. It's like a child drew a face on. Like a stick figure? Yes. You smear the motor Lisa, then you come out there. I hauled little eggs, squiggly smile. I hope Doug can find this because you can say, I did not know.

I don't know. Maybe look at woman messed up a classic painting with restoration or something like that. That's the, it was, it was hilarious. This one went, this went on for, what was it a decade or two? Yeah, so that was the interesting part too, is like, it would have been a real red flag

if all of a sudden you get like 10, 20 new, undiscovered art pieces all in the market at once. They dripped them in like one or two a year. So it was like relatively, oh shit. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Do you show up to work after that? I'm a Jesus.

Yeah, Jimmy. What have you done? Is that a joke, Doug? No, it's real. Amateur restoration botches Jesus' pain in his face. Amateur. Oh, man. That looks like I did it.

Todd learned, you know, how to stab at it. That looks like I did it. Yeah. That's the best thing ever. Well, that is so classic. I'm so glad you found that. Yeah, I was years ago and then there were a bunch of memes that were done. That's the worst thing I'm so glad you found that. Yeah, I was years ago, and then there were a bunch of memes that were that were funny.

That's the worst thing I've ever seen. I mean, it's not even close. You imagine you're the museum director. You show up to work. Like, hey, did you finish that? Yeah, I did. It is so bad that I feel like you could give me a blank canvas that I could get closer.

Look at that. It looks like that. You're the gray one that all the memes are about now like I don't know for yeah It's a classic pain. I know Yeah That's hilarious like no details in the face Adam. I wanted to ask you something I hate sorry to take a left-term like that But I know you were using

Organifies probiotic the old one. Yeah, do you think of what do you think of the of the the balance? I've only tried it like one time here and I haven't used it the same way that I used the other probiotic. Is it the same? Or is it more so? It's better. It's much better. So this not only has the probiotic but it's got the prebiotics in there.

So it also provides you with the things that feed the bacteria that's in this right here. It's in a packet. So you just pour in your face, drink some water. Really? Yep. I'm so mad that it's a guilty thing I this right here. It's in a packet, so you just pour in your face, drink some water. Really? I'm so mad that it's so guilty, this would be a thing I did right here. So I gotta admit it now, you're bringing up probiotic because I was actually looking for one in my pantry

and I didn't have one, and I'm out of the, they're original ones, so I used to love their original one. What I've trained myself to do is that if I have something that I know that would compromise my gut, I ride away, go over and have a couple of those pills, and it totally mitigates how bad it is. So I had this late night craving,

and by the way, I justify it like this. So I, you know, I wash three cars. I walked, I took 10,000. I just did. I washed three cars this weekend. I lifted, I did all this stuff. I'm like, I deserve some ice cream. It's been a while.

It's like 9.30 at night. Nothing is open except for Pascon Robbins. And I'm like, I'm not a Pascon it's been a while. It's like 9.30 at night, nothing is open, except for Pascon Robbins. And I'm like, I'm not a Pascon Robbins fan at all. And they have this thing called a polar pie. And so I ordered it. And it's literally like a giant chocolate chip cookie with cookie dough ice cream layered on top.

Wait a minute, wait a minute. This is your fake kid. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. How big was this? Wow. You on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. How big was this? Wow. You bought the whole thing? Well, you can't buy a slice.

You got to buy the whole thing. I remember one time. I don't remember where we went. I bought the whole thing. No, hold on. I don't remember where we went, but we went somewhere and we were spending from anywhere when we were in Sacramento.

There you go. We were going to stay for like three, four days, creating a new program or whatever, filming some of it. And we always go to a grocery store because we get Airbnb, so we buy food for the house or whatever. And everybody kind of divides up

so we can get the food that we want or whatever. And we're online waiting, waiting, where's Adam? Where's Adam? And Adam comes around the corner and he's holding a full ice cream cake. Like a whole cake. Look at him, how gracious he is. And I'm like, I don't, and I'm like, I don't need, I can't eat ice cream. I a whole cake. I'm more crushes and I'm like I don't I don't I don't need I can't eat ice cream

I don't want any of that I'm like the same for nobody else is mine Usually he tries to pull me in Yeah, right I started setting them up with the quit. It was the last time you had something like this to try this You know you like that's a while. Oh by the way I grabbed something. He's like a gazelle. Yeah Yeah, so I order this thing and Katrina comes down she goes what the fuck is in the freezer? It's called a polar pizza. Yeah, polar pizza. What did I say a polar pie? Oh polar pizza? Yeah, yeah, it's it's all right So how bad was the diarrhea? It was not as bad as I thought, but my stomach was messed up.

Like, I mean, I definitely, I woke up this morning filling bloated. I definitely didn't feel good going to bed. And I had a very small piece. I knew better. I was like, I can't crush this whole thing. I'm gonna have a little piece. Well, I mean, I made Ethan a bunch of peanut butter cookies with like the Reese's cup like inside it. I was like, oh my god.

I had quite a few of those, but it was funny because so it was just birthday this weekend. And so we were trying to like do stuff and had one of his friends over and whatnot. And then we went to see his cousins yesterday and he gets these gifts and you know, he gets his gifts every time he's now, they give him a card for row blocks. And so he gets so excited about this to buy and basically upgrade his character. I'm like, this isn't even a real thing.

I'm the asshole that got him like, a basketball hoop and I'm all excited. And you know, he's not excited about it. He's more excited about putting a new outfit on his stupid character. They're not giving him real money. They're giving real blocks to me. Roll blocks money.

I saw it last night. I watched, I just got these new speakers. I was telling you guys off-air, and I wanted to watch a good movie that was newer. It had some good sound effects and shit in it. So I just fell across, player one, I haven't watched it again. I really think that movie is.

I love that movie. They did a good job. They did a great, you know, you know, we got like 70 something percent movie, like it's not like it's not like it's not. That's a great movie. That movie. And I think it's accurate.

And they did such a good job with that movie. It almost harks back to like the goonies or that kind of adventure with friends and stuff. It did such a good job. Such a good job with it. But I mean, that, that the whole thing is about this idea. If you were, they said at the whole beginning,

intros like how they got here. It's 20, 40, something or what do I like that. And like how it got there, how reality is no longer, nobody wants to be in reality. It sucks, it's overpopulated. It's dirty happening. Yeah, we were talking earlier like about that painting that sold for how much money is NFT or whatever it's called.

Non-fungible, fungable token. And so that would, I guess that would qualify as one of those NFT for Roblox money. Money within the game that actually has value. That's what an NFT is. It's backed by, it's like a certificate. Now it's on blockchain. Blockchain. So you can't, it's a very complicated. You can't it's it's it's on blockchain. Blockchain so you can't it's a very

complicated. Yeah, so that's the thing. Okay, so that art that you brought up that that was considered an NFT. Yes, and what what makes it like we are joking about someone would just screenshot it or copy it and they would have the art. You can't do that because it's done on blockchain. I think you can screenshot it. So you can screenshot it. Yeah, I think it's yeah, I think it's, it's quality somehow. And you can always prove that you have the original because of blockchain. Yeah, that's the thing. So if you did a screenshot and someone want to buy it off you, they'd be like, all right, show me the proof.

And you don't have the blockchain or whatever. That's my understanding. Yeah, it's still confusing, but that was, I tried to like, you know, read up a little bit on it. And it was just like, okay, I guess so it's just basically these digital assets that you acquire. And they're, they're, you know, read up a little bit on it. And it was just like, okay, I guess so it's just basically these digital assets that you acquire. And they're, they're, you know, trying to figure out, this is gonna be like the next thing

because we're all gonna be in that virtual world or an augmented world or whatever. And so it's like a whole new landscape for opportunity to like, maybe I'll grab some. Yeah. I don't know, see what you use. I don't know what the hell to grab though. What, what, what can I do?

It's all new. And then how do you know he's gonna be, whoever it is, doing it is gonna be like the Picasso of NFTs. Like how do you know it's just something to be like? You take a chance. Well, I would imagine that current artist with a lot of value would go there first, right? So you're already making paintings and stuff

that people want. So then you create a one of those, and then it's already got value. Maybe Doug can do some homework on this. Maybe we should throw a couple bucks at it. I feel like it's, I mean, if we all agree, it's going this direction, right? None of us believe, I don't want it. I don't believe that blockchain or Bitcoin's going away.

It's been saying that. Well, I don't know. India Bandit. You guys see that? Oh, really? India banned Bitcoin like, like, big time bandit. I mean, if government's banned Bitcoin and other blockchain currencies, it will be relegated to the black mark forever

But it ain't going to be as valuable as it is now. Yeah, okay. I agree with that But I mean, I still stand by what I said, which is it's it's open the the floodgates sure it'll exist But it ain't going to be valuable like it is now unless all money collapses Well, that's a lot of people been and then also you have to I mean, do we even know how big the true black market is? We speculate on it all the time, but how does it compare to the fricking GDP? I mean, is it fricking, are we like 10X, 100X? Well, you're counting the whole,

you know, it's gotta be smaller, it has to be. You think so? Yeah, I don't think so. Really? Yeah, well black market includes a lot of crazy shit too. That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of stuff on the black market I would think that it rivals like I think it was would rival our entire economy

That's how big I think the black market is and if it's that big and it ends up and blockchain ends up only or Bitcoin only ends up Supporting that side. It's is it still big enough that even where it's valued redic because there are a lot of people You know by drugs and guns, nukes. Like what are you gonna do if you just have Bitcoin? Well people are in the black market. You can't buy anything in a real market. Right, so. But my argument is that that market is as big or bigger.

What's it, what do you put in that? It puts the global black market at 20% of global GDP. Wow, 1.6 trillion. And here's the thing, that's what we can, that's what we can guesstimate, right? How much, how much shit, I mean, how far off could that be? Yeah. That could be weight. I know. That could be way off. Definitely still risky. Well, like that whole silk road thing, like they shut that down and then, you know, they took basically like two billion worth of Bitcoin from them. I still think that the Bitcoin was invented

by the CIA. I think they're watching everybody. And they're just, little by little, they pluck people. I mean, it's, yeah, that's why we wait. You get away with stuff for a while. Yeah, that's okay. Nobody knows who created it. There's like a theory. I thought there's like a theory of like 12 or 15 people.

That's what I'm saying. It's such a mystery. It sounds very CIA to me. You know what I mean? Sounds very, so have you guys tried? I'm transitioning here. The, it's the waffle and maple flavor. No, but you know what I mean? Sounds very... So have you guys tried? I'm transitioning here. It's the waffle and maple flavor. No, but you know what I did?

I did. You know what I did, by the way, I wouldn't have had the... And this is the one thing I've definitely learned about myself is that if I have magic spoon in my pantry, I won't make that Baskin Robbins choice. Oh, so you wouldn't have got the pizza... Yeah, because what happens is I smoke a little weed and watch a good new movie or I'm listening. I'm all into the the where I'm at, right? And it's like you know what would be really feeling a little irritable or whatever.

Typically, why don't you let some comfort? No, I'm actually in a very good mood. You know what I'm saying? I'm high. I'm watching a great movie. Everything's I feel like I'm a theater in my own house, right? I'm like, what I need right now? Some treats and magic treat and magic spoon or I wish I can I just picture that are you wearing like are you wearing like slippers? Like what do you do? I'm in baggy sweats and a t-shirt. I'm comfortable. Yeah. I'm not a dad. I gotta get one of those. With your big old ice cream. Yeah, my big ass bowl like this, right? So, no, so anyways, back to Justin's transition to our commercial here. I was, I would normally eat the magic spoon

because it gives me that, that if I have like a craving sweet, I can say, I can discipline myself to go, okay Adam, you don't need a bowl of ice cream, you can have a bowl of that. And it satisfies me, but I was out. It helped me because the kids and that were staying over for Ethan's birthday,

like in the morning, Courtney made them waffles and everything. I was like, cause I used to love waffles. Dude, waffles was my jam as a kid. Like my mom would make them. There was a very, like, she'd make them overnight.

So it was like the Belgian style, really, anyways, really good. So all those smells and so I had a bowl of it. And it actually was, I mean, anyways, really good, so all those smells and so I had a bowl of it and it actually was, I mean, it was really good. Like I didn't like the cookies and cream one quite as much, but the maple waffle one, it did taste like, I don't know, like a honey crisp slash like maple waffles.

I'm waiting for the first person to screenshot like a fried chicken with the cereal in it. Oh yeah, chicken and waffle. Yeah, it's somebody who will try the way with the cereal in it. Oh, yeah. Chicken waffle. Yeah, it's somebody who will try the way. Oh, they're so good. Great combination. I know, it's weird.

It's weird. I still haven't done it. It's good. I mean, when I live in Chicago, we went and did that one night. It was really good. You guys go to Roscoe's. Yeah. Shhh. Wee-eek! Wee-eek! Call! I'm going to have my everything.

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Go to mindpromidia.com and and started today? It's the motherfucking world. The English Landish. Quikwa. First question is from Cole Pepper Eric. Are there any benefits to following a squat every day program? So do you guys remember when this became popular? Squat every day program? We actually addressed this exact question

while it's been a while now. It's been a long time Yeah, but you guys remember when I became a thing on the internet I do it was a while ago and I remember when I first saw this so here's the thing I've changed my stance on it Oh, well, so so here's the thing back in the day We were told in or build muscle build straight. I love to do that Adam It's wrong with the way

We were told and this information was disseminated through bodybuilding magazines. We were told that training a muscle group every day was a bad idea. You got to train it, you got to beat it up, let it rest recover so that it can grow. God forbid you work a muscle on its sore. God forbid you do the same thing, you know, two or three days in a row. That's terrible. It's going to cause your body to eat away at muscle. Well, I remember at this point in my career, I started realizing that frequency was an amazing thing. If I adjusted intensity, if I could train body parts quite frequently,

and although intense workouts send a louder muscle building signal, low intense workouts also send a muscle building signal. Not as loud, but it still sends one. And if I do it right, I'll get a great central nervous system response, meaning my CNS gets my muscles to fire, and to get strong, especially if it's the same movement, and it can actually facilitate recovery. So when I first saw this come out, I remember I was talking to one of the trainers that

worked for me and he's like, oh, this is so stupid. People are going to totally lose muscle. And I said, if they modify the intensity, people are going to see some of the fastest gains they've ever seen in their entire life with squats. And sure enough, lots of people did. Lots of people did see incredible results with this style of program. But you've got to monitor the intensity.

You can't hammer yourself with squats every single day because that's a recipe for disaster. Well, I do think that there's a big percentage of people this is going to be phenomenal for. And then I think there's a big percentage of people, this is a terrible idea for. If you don't know how to modify your intensity very well, this is a very dangerous idea. It's, and you'll get little to no benefits from it. If you approach every workout and with the idea that you're just going to, you know, squat and try and get as strong as you can every single workout, lift as much as you can every single workout, I think it's a terrible

idea in a recipe for potentially getting injured. Now if you understand that the idea is that you're just supposed to be practicing squatting and that you're not supposed to be loading it like you're towards your max rep at all. I think it could be phenomenal. I mean, when was the last time, so when was the last time somebody squatted 30 times in a year? Right. I would challenge there's very few people

that have squatted 30 times in an entire year. You got to be pretty consistent with your training and lifting and squatting to do that. So doing 30 days of squatting in a row, you're going to see some gains if you back off the intensity. Well, and yeah, and to that point of not paying attention to your overall mechanics and sort of squatting in spite of what your body signals are kind of telling you,

there's gonna be people out there that are just gonna see a message like that and program in squats every day and they're just gonna be like, it's just gonna work its way out. Like things are just gonna start working their way out. And I have a problem with that. I also too like to change up,

instead of always being like the back loaded squat, like I've seen people like, so they'll do different variations of the squats. So they'll do like the Bulgarian squat or they'll do like, you know, goblet squats. So they'll do like multiple versions of squats and not just keep do like, you know, goblet squats, or they'll do like multiple versions of squats and not just keep it always, you know, the same type of a squad.

And so I prefer, you know, if you're gonna do it to do something like that where you get different stimulus. Yeah, the first people to really talk about frequency in this way in structured studies with the Soviets, right? The Soviets trained their Olympic athletes who were so dominant in Olympic

sports, it was incredible. They won everything, and they trained frequently throughout the day, let alone every day, but it was throughout the day. But what they did is exactly what Adam said is they practiced. You're practicing the left, you're practicing the left. And when it comes to strength, because strength is a skill as much as it's your muscles growing and contracting harder, it's also a skill. So if you practice the same skill over and over again, you'll get better and better and better at it. Now on the flip side of that, let's say when you squat,

let's say normally you squat once a week. And every once in a while when you squat, you feel it a little bit in your hip, right? But it's not a big deal, you're okay, but you feel a little bit in your hip. If you squat every day, you're gonna hurt your hip. Like that little bit you feel, now you're okay, but you feel a little bit in your hip. If you squat every day, you're gonna hurt your hip. That little bit you feel,

now you're gonna amplify it time seven in a week. It's a just. And you're gonna hurt yourself. So you got to have a really good squat, you have to have a really, really good technique, you have to practice it, and you have to really modify your intensity. But I will say that frequency is still

the biggest secret in fitness, especially in muscle building, it really is. You can train things very frequently, your body adapts and you get tremendous gains from this. Look, I tell you, you see this with blue collar workers, people who, you know, hall, concrete or dig ditches or, you know, they're doing some stuff that if you went to go do even if you're fit and you work on the gym, you'd be so sore the next day, you're formed, you're shoulders, but these guys and girls, they feel nothing from doing it every single day and they've got

incredible capacity, work capacity in those corresponding muscle groups. You also see this with gymnasts, gymnasts don't lift any weights, typically they have incredibly muscular bodies. They're. They're training their bodies every single day. It's not like they're doing, oh, pummel horse once a week. I can't practice more than that because my muscles are sore on them. No, they do that shit all the time. And they build tremendous bodies, people in prison.

This is how they work out and they get tremendous body. So this is something that you can utilize, but if you're not smart about it, you're gonna hurt yourself. Well, it's definitely, you know, it's a recipe for gaining strength and getting stronger is, you know, practicing and adding that in consistently. So that way your bi-recognizes, you get better at it as an overall skill, but you still have to be conscious of the fact of repetitive stress. Like, if you're doing this for a really long period of time, you know, inevitably your

bi-s biases start forming into these positions, you're not expressing rotation, you're not expressing side to side movement. This is all gonna add up as pain and you know, potential injury down the road. Yeah, in fact, I'm even thinking about experimenting with the routine myself where I train my whole body five days a week, but literally I'm gonna do one exercise

per body part anywhere between one to three sets per exercise. And I'm going to obviously listen to my body and train heavier on some days, lighter on some days, just to see what's going to happen. Every time I've experimented with frequency in that way, I get the fastest gains in the short period of time. I think you'll crush the only thing that you'll have is the same challenge that the people that have that do this, which is the ability to back off. Yeah. Because you will. There's gonna be, I guarantee, when you do that,

you're gonna have a day when the music hits right, you're feeling refreshed and good, and you're gonna wanna, oh, it's stuck another plate on there. Oh, let's do a little more. Let's do one more set. I think that's when you do, when you increase the frequency this high, where you're doing it every single day,

or like what you're talking about five days a week, the hardest part is the psychological piece. Yeah, right, because to give you an example of how much I would scale back, it would be like, let's say for me an intense set of squats is 10 reps with 315, so 315 pounds, 10 reps. Well, if I'm gonna squat every day, I'm gonna be around probably 225 for 10 reps with 315, so 315 pounds, 10 reps. Well, if I'm gonna squat every day, I'm gonna be around probably 225 for 10 reps.

So much, much lighter, still doing 10 reps. And then I may have a day in there where I put 315 on and do like four reps, right? So I'm never really going to that high level of intensity, like, angelating it. Oh, right, and I miss it, but I'm always keeping the intensity very moderate and fighting the urge, you're right, because it will happen, you'll be like, unjeling it. Oh, right. And I miss it. But I'm always keeping the intensity very moderate and fighting the urge, you're right,

because it will happen. And you'll be like, oh my gosh, feel so good. Oh my God, I'm getting really strong. I feel like I'm getting strong. You want to push it. And then if you do, you've got to take some time off. Now, you can't train every day doing that. Next question is from Cameron Dart.

When cutting or bulking should your style of training change? This is a great question. I actually get asked this all the time. It depends on if your goal is short term or if your goal is long term. Long term, regardless if you're cutting or bulking, you're training, if for time, or resistance training, should be focused on building muscle

because building muscle obviously benefits bulking, but it also benefits cutting. One of the challenges with cutting is preserving muscle and maintaining metabolism that still remains fast. It's one of the hardest challenges, right? How do I lose body fat without losing this hard-earned muscle? Because if you lose 10 pounds, half of its fat, half of its muscle, you're just a smaller, skinnier version of your old self, same body fat percentage and everything. You've actually gone nowhere, you're just a smaller, skinnier version of your old self, same bad body,

fat percentage and everything. You've actually gone nowhere, you've just lost muscle. So whether you're building or cutting, long term, the goal should always be to build muscle. Now if it's a short term goal, if I say I got six weeks to get lean and I'm going to cut, what I'm going to do with my workout is I'm going to, because this is a short term approach, there's not a long term approach, but what I'm going to do with my workout is I'm gonna cut. What I'm gonna do with my workout is I'm gonna, cause this is a short-term approach, it's not a long-term approach, but what I'm gonna do with my workout is I'm gonna change my workout to burn a lot of calories.

So now I'm gonna do super sets. I might do a couple of giant sets or a circuit here or there, throw in some hits-style training, because in the short-term it burns more calories, I'll burn more body fat. Still doing resistance training to preserve muscle, but that's my short-term approach. Now why is it not long-term?

Because if I do that long-term, then I still get those negative effects that I'll get from cutting, which is all I end up losing. Well, I think so, because what would you do if you were already training like that and then you go into a bulk? Let's say, for example, you're following, you know, maps aesthetic and you're in phase three, which has got supersets and what you're talking about. And then you're bulking, right? You're bulking all the way through maps aesthetic and supersets and what you're talking about. And then you're bulking, right? You're, let's say you're bulking all the way through,

maps aesthetic, and then you've decided you're about to trans, after maps aesthetic, you're going to transition into this cut and you just came out of all these supersets. Right. To me, whatever, and there's no like wrong answer here. I see the direction going. Right, there's no, there is, there's no wrong answer to this. Like some people love being in a calorie surplus

when they're training one to five reps. And some people love to be in a cut there because you preserve so much muscle. I think there's benefits to going both ways. Personally, whenever I adjust my food like drastically, we're deciding I'm going from a bulk to a cut, I also like to switch up how I'm training. Whether that be the modality of it,

like going from like a very basic maps in a ball to like a map strong type of a program, or really manipulating the rep ranges, like you just alluded to. I just find that it takes a lot of different stimulus, both nutritionally and training wise, to really see my body make big changes, so I love to kind of play with all of that.

But there's nothing to say, I mean, you could follow, let's just say, you know, one of the maps programs, because we do all the phasing and underlating in there for you, just say you follow that along, and you could be going into a cut bulk, cut bulk at different phases, and it doesn't matter. You know, that's a good, yeah, it's basically train in a way

that's going to be appropriate for your body to build muscle, which can be super sets, if that's going to be appropriate for your body to build muscle, which can be supersets if that's not what you're doing. It could also be heavy weight in low reps if that's not what you're doing. Now, speaking to what you're saying, Adam, personally, I like to cut and I like to go heavy and have longer rest periods when I cut

because I don't have as much energy. Super sets and shit like that. Yeah, I like to be fed when I'm gonna go and do a bunch of super, and I know that's counter to a lot of things. Well, I agree with you on that, but at the same time, it's also an ego thing because you know, you're low calorie

and now you're trying to do these same lists that you would normally have like a lot more strength when you're well fed. So you just have to like work through that psychologically, but I do prefer to try and like do like, you know, lower reps and go in that direction. That's why there's no wrong answer here. I mean, so long as it's appropriate,

it was just right. Maps of Stetek really was designed to kind of mimic how I got ready for a show. And technically, the last phase of Maps of Stetek, I'm cutting, that's the last four weeks. And that's where all the super set and crazy stuff is. So, and the, the, the idea for me is, as I'm getting, you know, those last four to six weeks

as I'm getting ready for a show, not only am I restricting calories, but I'm also moving more in my workout to create an even larger deficit to really see a dramatic change. So, but your point is valid too. Like, you know, I totally agree with you. Like it's nice when you are fed to be doing a lot of

super setting and moving it around and it's a pump. Yeah, so the answer for I think for everybody is to play with this. This is what's so neat is that, you know, everybody listening right now, there's gonna be a group of people that go, oh man, I need to be fed when I go one to five rep range. I just feel amazing and I see great response. I think great. Then do

that. You know what I'm saying? That you can do either one. I think getting a hung up on this because we do, I get this a lot in my DM. This is actually one of my, hey, I'll get a exact, do you want like the perfect formula? I'll get a DM that says, you know, hey, Adam, I'm in phase two of maps performance. Should I cut her bulk? Yeah, should I cut her bulk? Or I'm about to transition into a bulk what phase should I be in? It's like, it doesn't matter. I'm saying you should be going in and out of cutting and bulking.

I think we always talk about at least every four to six weeks. You shouldn't be staying in one of them too much longer than that anyways. It's not always going to line up perfect for a phase in the workout. And I think it's a good thing for everyone to try both ways, cutting in a program that's strength-based one time and then cutting one time in a hypertrophy or a superset type of phase.

Next question is from Johnny Humber. Are artificial sweeteners is bad for you as sugar and how do they affect blood sugar, sugar, etc? Ah, the big. This one's always a debate, right? Always a big deal. I know Laine's head just exploded. Yeah, no, Laine Norton and I have gone back and forth

over this many, many times. Okay, so as far as blood sugar is concerned, artificial sweeteners don't seem to affect blood sugar. And there are some studies that show that it may affect the microbiome and how it responses to glucose and stuff, but those studies are not very good. So I think we can safely say with current research, which there's a lot of it that artificial sweeteners

won't affect blood sugar. Okay, so that being said, if all things being equal, sugar versus artificial sweeteners, you're eating an appropriate amount of calories, you're everything else is healthy, doesn't make a big difference. Now here's why I like sugar better than artificial sweeteners for most people. It's because of the behavioral effects that we can develop from using artificial sweeteners. So let me explain what I mean, okay.

When you eat something with sugar, if you're somebody that's working on your nutrition and you're becoming self-aware about the things you're eating, you're trying to eat in a healthier way, sugar has this natural barrier known as calories, right? So if I'm watching my calories and my macros and I'm trying to lose weight and I'm like, I want to have that soda, I'm gonna look at the soda and be like, okay, okay, it's got 200 calories. X amount of grams of sugar. I think I can only have one. When I drink things or eat things

with artificial sweeteners, I've eliminated that barrier, and it feels like I can have as much as I want, because there's zero calories, there's no risk, there's no problems whatsoever. I can drink 15 cans of the soda because it doesn't affect my macros or my calories at all. The problem with that is, yes,

from a calorie standpoint, that's true. But from a behavioral standpoint, it's terrible because these things are very, very sweet. They change how, still stuff still happens in your body when you drink these things. You're still perceiving sweetness. So your palate changes. Other food start to taste more bland.

You start to develop this relationship of feeding, whatever feeling you have, whether it's stress, anxiety, or whatever, with this sweet flavor. And it's not a long-term approach. And I'm going to say this right now. I've worked with clients for a long time. I've never had anybody lose weight, long term successfully by having artificially sweetened substances over sugar. It's never

been a strategy I've seen to be successful. The only time I've seen it be a successful strategy was with competitors. That's where I was going to interrupt you and go, because I do see value with it on that. by the way, you were the one that got me to stop drinking diet sodas in the artificial sweetener stuff and replace it with drinks like the had sugar in it. Like Hanson Rupier, for example, was like my switch from Diet Coke. And exactly what happened is what you said is I knew that that drink had like 135 or 150 calories. And X, I can't remember how many grams of sugar in it.

And because I know it had that, it kept that at bay where I would be like, okay, I already had one today. That's all I get. Where what I've always noticed about my behaviors with diet coaxes, once I allow it into the diet, oh, I have one, you know, every other day, and then it's one a day, then it's two a day, I'm going to get up to three, four in a day. Really, really quickly, if I'm not paying attention, I can do that because you justified zero calorie, and it promotes those behaviors. I do see, though, somebody who's competing and who is weighing and measuring and tracking everything,

that to me, that was something that I love to, that was like a treat. It was like, oh my God, I can't have any calories. I'm out of calories today, but, well, I'll go sip on a diet coke right now. And that will give me that kind of sweet feeling and feel like I'm getting a treat. I used it like that a lot, and I liked it for that. But for the average person who is not tracking, it just promotes the bad behaviors. And it ends up you end up craving something else to go with that diet drink or that zero

calorie food. Well, it's interesting because the, you know, the artificial sweeteners tend to really ramp up that sweet reward. So it's like even more powerfully sweet, which, you know, throughout the day, you're constantly thinking about, where can I get my next sweet? Like, it's something that your body starts to really seek for that same feeling. And so, you, behaviorally, I'm a lot more drawn towards providing that through maybe I'll have some cookies or maybe some things will sneak in my diet

that previously wouldn't have otherwise. Well, so to that point, Justin, that was another thing that I noticed during when I was competing. So I've talked on the show before about, I did a show, a couple shows like this where I did all whole foods and I did no artificial sweeteners, nothing like that. Then I did another show where I allowed like the quest bars and diet drinks and stuff in there.

And one of the things that I noticed about when I was eating whole foods versus the artificial sweeteners was the taste of fruit. And when I am, when I'm allowing the diet cogs and all these drinks and quest bars, things that are all that utilize a lot of the artificial sweeteners, the taste of a strawberry or an apple is extremely bland. When I eat nothing but whole foods, now a sudden a strawberry, a grape, an apple.

Tastes different. It tastes like candy. It tastes sweet. It tastes incredibly sweet. But when you're always pumping in those artificial sweeteners, then you go have natural sugar and fruit. It ruins fruit. They're sweeter than sugar.

In fact, I guarantee, look, I guarantee it, someone watching right now. If you have lots of artificially sweetened sodas, let's say you have a lot of diet coaks, you probably find the taste of a regular Coke to be bland. And I've talked to many people, no, I prefer the taste of Coke Zero because the sugar one doesn't taste the sweet to me.

They're extremely sweet, they're still in effect in the body, changes how you perceive foods, and then look, let's look at the studies. The studies that are controlled, and what I mean by controlled is, they put people in a lab and they give them everything measured out.

So here's your food and that's it. What does replacing sugar with artificial sweeteners cause them to lose weight? Yes, their calories drop. But that never happens in real life. In real life when they do studies on people living their lives, when people cut out sugar and replace it with artificial sweeteners, they never lose weight. Almost no study show people lose weight, except for when things are super controlled. Well, don't they actually show they eat 500 more calories?

That's what happens. They replace it with other calories because it causes those behaviors to happen. It is a terrible long-term approach to weight loss. I've never in my life have I had success. Have you guys ever had success with a client? Hey, replace all your sodas with artificial sweeteners. And it just doesn't work.

So that's the thing about it. The promise with artificial sweeteners was people are gonna lose weight. They get to get the sweetness and they're gonna lose weight. It's never worked. It's never worked. So that's the problem. So yeah, if everything's measured and you're measuring

everything in your pre-contest, you already have dysfunctional eating anyway, try and go throw some artificial sweeteners in the fall. Well, you know, because we're talking about behavior stuff right now, right? So if you're tracking, there's your accountability. You know, you have the accountability. There's no mistake when you have those two diet coaks

like, and you measure anything out. You're like, oh, I can't have anything else eat versus the person who's like, oh, well, I had zero calorie drinks today, so I can go have this dessert. I should be okay, right? I can go ahead and have two, three hundred calories here. They're guessing, and they're going based on how it feels.

Well, sweetness or a change in flavor, it overcomes palate fatigue and allows it to eat more. So, in fact, I've talked about this before, what's that show called, Man vs Food? Yeah, the ice cream thing. Yeah, there's a contest called, Man vs. Food? Yeah, the ice cream thing. Yeah, there was a contest where he had to eat a kitchen sink full ice cream. And he got, I don't know, how far 70% of the way there.

He had potato chips in between. Yeah, he started French fries. He started gagging, he couldn't eat anymore. So how did he get himself to eat more ice cream? He ate a big plate, or like 3000 calories of French fries. Yeah, super salty French fries. And he had to eat more to eat more. And what that did is it made his palate fatigue,

he overcame it, was able to eat the ice cream. We all know this, right? You eat a big dinner, Thanksgiving, you're, oh my God, I'm so stuck. I can't eat another bite of turkey, I'm a throw up. Then they bring out something with a completely different flavor. A big pie.

Yeah, I know, I can eat more all of a sudden. So here you are drinking more sweet than sugar. Artificial sweeteners are far sweeter than sugar. You're drinking that while you're eating, you're gonna eat more. That's what happens. Actually, it hijacks the body. What is that, Doug?

Is it 10x? What is it? Thousands. Is it? No. It's incredibly sweet and comfortable. Yeah, how much sweeter is artificial sweeteners than you look at?

I just go aspartame to sugar. Yeah. You could just look that up. I know it's high. Very high. And they put a tiny amount in there to try to make up for it, but it's still far sweeter.

You know, I can always tell too. So if you ever messed around with, I don't know if you guys ever did sugar in your coffee or not, but if you do like regular sugar, you get out of way more. Oh yeah, then versus like sweet and low. It only takes like one or two packets in a sweet and... Yeah, even this too much.

Right, sweet and your coffee up like crazy. 200 times sweeter. Wow. And sucrose. Yeah. Wow, that's too gross. Yeah. Wow, that's a lot of you. All right, next question is from Ali Akeli. How do you address low back soreness

after heavy deadlifts? Oh, okay, so if it's muscle soreness, you know, I say it's fair to assume that heavy deadlifts you're gonna experience in a appropriate level, because if you overdo it, right, you're going to experience an appropriate level, because if you overdo it, right, you don't want to get too sore, but an appropriate amount of soreness in the muscles that support the spine, the erector spinae muscles, which will be,

it'll be the low back, it'll be up the middle of your back, and it'll feel like muscle soreness. It's the abdominals of the low back. Yeah, so that's okay, and that's normal. If it's a bad kind of soreness, if you're in pain, you can't move, you're going to having your form is not good. I would work on hit mobility. Ankle mobility is important too, but hit mobility seems to be more important for someone's deadlift and then their form. A lot of people when they deadlift, they make the following mistake.

They lift their hips and then they lift the bar. So it looks like it's like a two-stage lift. And it becomes like a Romanian deadlift with really heavy weight. Really a deadlift is both a pushing and pulling movement. We call it pulling, but the reality is, especially if you listen to some of the best deadlifters of all time, like Ed Cohn, for example, they talk about, you grab the bar, you tense up, and you are pulling with the upper body, but you're pushing with your legs, like you're trying to push through the floor. And it creates up this much better technique

that prevents you from overloading the low back. I think I'm looking for my, I'm asking my client some questions on this, right? So I wanna know how much they feel in their glutes and their hamstrings. If they only feel soreness in their low back, it's normally a form issue. It's normally something that we can address

and we can mod up to your exact point. And it's normally exactly what you said. It's normally the hips are rising early and they're just doing like this back extension more than they are doing a driving the hips forward. They're going into the lift with the, they don't have the right intent, set up in their mechanics and really feeling that.

And I love that cue of like driving those feet into the floor. And that's what propels you up. Really like you're trying to engage your back so everything's braced. So even like kind of pulling, feeling like you're bending the bar to really engage, you know, your back and your lats and everything else is great for that stabilization. But to stabilize and then drive with your legs, you know, is where I like to get to that point. But, you know, once you get a back soreness,

I mean, really, to just like lightly go through, I find that walking really helps too with that, and in terms of like trying to, you know, get some active recovery going with that, like some light, like hip ridges and things like that, some hip mobility, but really, I mean, that's, if it's a really bad soreness, you know, get some active recovery going with that, like some light, like hip bridges and things like that, some hip mobility. But really, I mean, that's, if it's a really bad soreness, you know, something you really have to look into,

like Adam said, your technique. Yeah, so, you know, flat shoes or barefoot, if your gym allows it, because any rise in the heel throws your center of gravity forward a little bit and we'll make it more challenging to have good form. So flat shoes get close to the bar, just then gave a great cue.

You wanna turn on your lats. You wanna pull down a little bit, bend the bar, and then take this slack off the bar, meaning create a little upward pressure. Don't lift the bar, but get it so that it's tight before you're ready to lift. Take a deep breath, hold your breath, and then drive through the floor to your legs

and lift it to your upper body, and you'll create a really tight position. You gotta go through our MindPump TV YouTube channel too because we've got, I mean, we've got Jordan Shallow that did some great videos on there. We got a few experts. We got Jordan Syetha did some really good videos on there. Who, we got Coach Eugene Tao that did some great.

All gave a lot of different really cool tips on deadlifting. And I believe Coach Eugene Tao is the one that did address the low back issue as far as queuing and stuff. And I saw a lot of people that commented like, oh wow, this really helped me out. So cool. Check that out on the mind. That'll be in the in the show notes at mindpumppodcast.com. Look, mind pump is also on YouTube. So you can come watch the podcast if you like listening to it. You can also find all of us on social media. You can find Justin at MindPump Justin on Instagram, me at MindPumpSale, Adam at MindPump Adam and one more thing, if you go to MindPumpFree.com, you can check out and download a bunch of

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