Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1529: How to Build Muscle Using Only Light Weight, Ways to Kickstart Growth in Slow to Respond Body Parts, the Benefit of Varying Your Training Modality & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: April 10, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer five Pump Head questions via Zoom. Adam’s justified moodiness. (4:09) What’s in Sal’s post-workout shake? (12:34) Pasture eggs versus conventional farm eggs. (13:50) Are you willing to take the ‘Burger Den’ challenge? (15:06) The common chemical that may be causing an explosion of Parkinson's Disease. (21:43) Fun Facts with Justin: Who is the top producer of tires? (24:44) How humans evolved to eat a lot of animals. (27:51) Mind Pump’s first take of Seaspiracy on Netflix, being open-minded, and more. (29:52) Why do we lead with punishment rather than incentivize? (42:12) Another reason to build muscle. (44:57) What is Mind Pump’s favorite Legion ‘Pulse’ flavor? (46:11) An update on Adam’s hormone replacement therapy. (48:05) #Quah question #1 – How can one program isolation exercises and still gain the same amount of strength and muscle as compound exercises? (52:46) #Quah question #2 – What are ways to kickstart growth in slow to respond body parts? (59:47) #Quah question #3 – What is the best programming to bring up my upper body to the progress I have made with my lower body? (1:04:25) #Quah question #4 – How do I get started as a new trainer in this current environment? (1:12:54) #Quah question #5 – Would I be able to run the same program over again after I complete? (1:20:48) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Specials: MAPS Anabolic or Shredded Summer Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “APRILSPECIAL” at checkout** Nearly $1,000 worth of oily pennies used to pay former employee Coinstar fixes Georgia man's oily penny paycheck problem Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “Mindpump15” at checkout for 15% discount** Rates of Parkinson’s disease are exploding. A common chemical may be to blame Rolling, rolling, rolling: Lego, the world's biggest tire maker As “Hypercarnivores", Humans Were Apex Predators For 2 Million Years Seaspiracy | Netflix Official Site Sacred Cow Yellen Declares End to Trump’s Global Retreat, Eyes Tax Deal The Role of Skeletal Muscle in Maintaining Vitamin D Status in Winter Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump #1397: 5 Ways To Maintain Muscle When You’re Sick Or Injured MAPS Aesthetic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System How To Do A Barbell Hip Thrust The RIGHT Way! (FIX THIS!!!) Best Hip Thrust For Glute Gains (ADD THIS!) MAPS Fitness Anabolic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Z Press to take Your Shoulder Development to the Next Level How To Overhead Press with Kettlebells | Mind Pump Mind Pump #1492: Five Things To Look For In An Online Coach With Jason Phillips Facebook Forum | Mind Pump Media Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Rand McClain (@randmcclain)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now in today's episode, we answered live questions. So people called in and we coach them live in this episode, but the way we open the episodes with an intro portion,

which is 45 minutes long. This is where we talk about current events, we bring up studies, and we talk about our sponsors. So here's the rundown of today's podcast. We open up, I talk about Adam's mood. Oh, he's a little moody today. And so we find out why. Watch out.

The storm's coming. Then we talk about my post-workout shake that includes a lot of raw egg yolks, and I like to take paleo-valley's organ complex. So if you want to get the benefits of organ meats, which are the most nutrient-dense foods, you can find anywhere, but you don't like the taste of liver, heart, and spleen,

you can supplement with this product. Yeah, we do. Why would you not like that? Go check it out. Paleo Valley has a lot of great products, all very natural, all very healthy. Go to paleovali.com-forward-slash-mind-pump. Use the code MindPump15, so that's MindPump15, at checkout, to say 15%. Then we talk about pasture eggs versus regular eggs. One of them is good. One of them is weird. Then we talk about the burger versus regular eggs. One of them is good, one of them is weird. Then we talk about the burger den, this new place to eat around here, or is it new?

Yeah, I don't know. I talk about a study showing that there may be a chemical, common chemical that may be causing an explosion of Parkinson's disease. Justin asks us a question, we don't know the answer to, the world's biggest tire producer. I got you guys. The answer will shock you. Then I talk about a new study that came out that says that humans,

sorry everybody who thinks we should need animals, we evolved eating a lot of animals. Then we talk about the inconvenience, the documentary on Netflix see, Spiracy, then we talk about the global minimum tax that they're trying to pass, those bestards. Then I talk about a study showing how skeletal muscle stores vitamin D, which will help you in the cold winter months. One more reason why building muscle is good for you. Then we talk about our favorite flavor of pulse pre-workout.

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on your first order. And then Adam gives us an update on his hormone replacement therapy. Then we got into live questions. The first one was from Phoebe from France. She's talking about working out, and her doctor says she can't lift heavy anymore, so it would like some other options.

Then we talked to Christian from Florida. He'd like to build both his upper chest and glutes. Can he focus on both of them in the same workout cycle? Then we talked to Patty from New York. Patty just finished maps and a ballic, squat and deadlift one up, bench press and overhead press, stalled a little bit, wanted some advice. Then we talked to RC from Texas, you know, wants to know about starting off as a personal trainer in today's environment.

Do we still think it's a good idea to start in a bit of a big box gym? And the final question came from from Just Lean. Thank you for pointing that out. Just Lean from Canada. This person's following Maps maps aesthetic it's the best program she's ever followed once and oh she could just run it back to back to back and continue to see progress also we are running a huge promotion summer is almost here so we are putting two of our most effective programs on sale, ones of program, ones of bundle, to help you look sexy for summer. So, Maps and Obolic, 50% off,

and the Shredded Summer Bundle, which includes Maps Esthetic, Maps Prime, Maps Hit, and the Intuitive Nutrition Guide, also 50% off. Go check them out, go to MapsFitnessProducts.com and use the code AprilSpecial with no space for that discount. Are we going to address the moodyness that you have today, Adam? I am a little moody today, actually.

You get moody sometimes. Well, I learned this early on. It's a posture thing. I don't like that. I don't like that we've started this thing. It's true. When we started Mind Puff, I remember when we started working on it. That was what it always was. I don't like that. I don't like that we've started this thing. It's true. When we start a Mind Puff, I remember when we started we're in a different, that was what it always was.

I remember thinking like, sometimes Adam's just in a bad mood. I just can't explain it, but there's some energy around it. Yeah, and I told Justin, like, is it considered moody if it's justified? I feel like if it's justified, it's not really moody, right? It's, it's what Jessica says to me. Right?

It's causing, cause and effect. That's what it is. I mean, I got like it, I don't know, maybe. I don't think you're crazy. I don't think you're making shit up, but you definitely get moody. Not that often though, right? I feel like I've been, we've been in a really good mood.

I think things have been like really, really good. I, especially with us working out the morning, although I missed it today. No, I'm, what happened? Well, I'm, I'm short on sleep. I got maybe an hour and a half, two hours of sleep last night, my dad came in. Total?

Yeah, yeah, I didn't get it. How are you even alive right now? I know, I'm barely, I'm hanging in there right now. So we'll see how this ride goes today. But yesterday, it started yesterday, my phone, and I, like, busy as day yesterday, I got a crazy day today. Running low on sleep, and my number, a local day yesterday, I got a crazy day today. Runnin' low on sleep.

And my, a number, a local number has been callin' me like crazy. So I don't, did you guys walk in the office and you see I wrote some numbers down on the whiteboard and tell you what I'm doing right now. So, you're gonna call these people back? So, I'm, yeah, I'm paying our employees to do that just so you know, it's coming out of the budget just for today.

Wait a minute, wait a minute. So, you're paying our employees to call back telemarketers? Yes. I'm so annoyed. Like this, this, I'll show you guys my phone, okay? It's literally every three minutes since like five o'clock this morning.

That's the next girlfriend. And they were, no, I answered finally. I finally answered, who the fuck is this? Well, this is you qualify for health medicare, doctor, doctor, doctor, doctor, doctor, they started going off like, are you kidding me right now? You're calling me like this over that? And I came on glue, the guy hung up on me and stuff like that.

But one of the things I said to him, I said, you mess with the wrong, you rest in the wrong with the fucker. I said, because I have a staff that I'm going to pay today to call back these numbers all day long. That's it, I'm going to lose money today just to mess with the world. We're all gonna lose money today.

Just today, I don't know how I feel about this. Because that's the thousands of numbers, you know. They Just today. I don't know how I feel about this. Just because I see thousands of numbers here. They do, I wrote them all down. I got them all. I mean, I got all the numbers. You know what you gotta do? This is the best thing. Don't do that,

because then they're not gonna stop answering your phone. That's the phone, because I've done that before. What I do, which I think is this is what you should do. Answer the phone, and when they're trying to sell you something, lead them on. Act like you're interested

and put them on hold 85 times. In fact, I do this with my kids. Taking with you to the bathroom. Oh yeah, dude. So I did it with my kids where I get to, I'll show my kid, hold on, quiet. Now put them on speaker phone. Oh, you know, would you like to blow it?

Like, you know what, that sounds very interesting. Hold on one second and then I'll put them on hold. And then like five minutes later, come back. Can you tell me that again? Do you guys accept credit card? All right, hold on one second and I'll do this for, just leave the phone over there, go do something. Yeah, so we called you first thing in the morning.

Yeah, that's why I was so annoyed. Wow, that's rude. It was like five o'clock, it started. Five a.m. And I'll show you, it's like every three, I think the longest stretch he went was like seven. So I'm like, I'm listening to my audio book on the way to work, it's getting interrupted every like five minutes. Wait a minute, I got an idea.

Doug, I don't know if this is, is this gonna be legal? What I'm about to do right now? I have no idea. I have a better idea, bro. Than having our staff do it. What if we posted the number on the YouTube channel? Just let everybody just have a good time with that. Call. See that said.

Can we do that, Doug? Um, I suppose we could. Oh, bro. It's just information. I feel like these people have these random generated numbers that they're calling from. So they do, they they do answer them. They can go to some voicemail.

When you call back, I'm gonna try. I know, it's fine. Let's solve this right now. Because I'm so annoyed at it. I want to deal with it. Let's see. Let's see what happens. You got to be really enthusiastic though.

You know, I'll play Sal's role. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. See if it's closer to the mic. Oh, that was it. Oh, there you go. Son of a bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah See if it's closer to the mic Son of bitches They've moved on that just made my day worse Thanks a lot dog you're welcome. Sorry. Sorry about that I actually took the time to write all the numbers down in the office on this

You there to carry Eli and Chokia's like literally like today, I'm asking you guys out, like rotate all of you. Wow. Wow, they have a blocked number, right? So then they call from, that's so crazy. Or are you getting a message? If you want to unsubscribe, you know, push one or something like that, you know. So we don't even have voice.

You know what, you know what I've done before? I was so annoying. Here's the other thing because I appreciate sales. I appreciate good sales people. Yeah, this is terrible sales tactic. Yes. I say if you, I'm like easy close. Yes.

You can get me. This is not how you get me. Yeah, when you're a shitty sales person, oh, I hate that. So I've done that to people where they've come up to the door to sell me something. Yeah. And if they're good, I'll listen,

and I'll tell them, I'll be like, you know what, you're really good. Listen, don't they do that? Dude, I don't care how good it sales me. If you're calling me all the time on my phone, I will yell at you. Well, that's a bad sales person. Like, telemarketers do not have any, you know,

wait for me. No, no, no, I've done it where I've bought, like, I've got to buy a car. And then the guy trying to sell me the car is literally going down the script of like old, you know, Tom Hopkins sales. Yeah. Oh, that's a nice tie down, huh?

He's like, I'm like, do you know? You know, you know, I remember there, one, one time he's like, so if, so if we, if we can do this price, then you think you buy, right? And I'd be like, I'm like, waiting, I'm like, I think so. And then you'll say, okay, initial here, I'll just a blank piece of paper. Like that's, well, isn't it? It's a great way to get my career manager. Isn't it true? Isn't it true, you're manning it?

Isn't it true that we're more likely to get closed on something because of being salespeople? Is that not, is that not true? Or that just, yeah, maybe from, yeah, like a good salesman. Yeah, we're, we definitely, I feel like I'm susceptible to that. I feel like I read that somewhere that, you know, that we are more likely

than like the average consumer is to buy something because of that, because we appreciate how they'll hard work and what it takes to get there. And if someone does a good job of pulling me in and we interest in getting me interested. Sales people typically, this is a stereotype, but typically, or they like that process of conversation convincing. And if you do a good job, we can get roped in and really excited about what you're talking about. I've told many people that like, hey, that was really good. Yes.

I did not want to buy this at all, but that was so good. I'm interested now in paying for this. But now when you harp on someone, you know, 85 times around with a phone. Oh, man, it was so hard. Yeah, that, you're just assaulting you at that point.

Yeah, I can sleep. Yeah, that too. What do I do? Well, never mind. It's justified then. Hey, remember I brought up, here's a story for you guys. Remember I brought up the pennies?

Yeah, the green stuff pennies are what they do. Yeah, yeah, did you know there's a follow up to that story? What happened? Coinbase, here's brilliant, more brilliant marketing. It loves this stuff. Coinbase came in and rounded the pennies up and cash the dude out. With what?

With money. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, so instead of, hold on, is it Coinbase Bitcoin? Coinbase, no, Coinbase is the, or Coinstar, excuse me, or Coinbase is the Bitcoin one. Yeah, it's like, yeah, Coinstar.

The company Coinstar, obviously this, this thing. What is easy, what is easy commercial? What a great commercial. Easy. I think they rounded up like a hundred bucks higher than what it really was about that, and obviously didn't make them count on that.

They took them, they took them, and then gave the guy a thousand dollars or like that She publicity right there. Great. Yeah brilliant, right? That is really good. I thought that was really smart You know is there's something that you guys this this happened to me again today And it's funny because I've posted this on a hundred times Is there something that you know if you post in your story on your Instagram? Whatever you know for sure you're gonna get lots of comments and it can be the same thing over and over again. Is there something that you have?

Yeah, I don't do that. Yeah, for my audience, I mean, I haven't done it in a long time, my physique stuff, like so if I might my body, like if my transformation, if I'm doing, your body, your body, putting things out my abs, just my hoiled up abs,

and I'm off on a chair. That does, what I eat, it blows my mind. People are so curious about what I eat every day. Nobody cares what I eat. I, I don't get a shit about chicken. Yeah, they're just like, let me get it. Okay, where's the cheese? There's coffee.

Oh, chicken nuggets again. Yeah, that gets, so am I, and then I'm like, I'm so much more than that, you guys. My question and answers get a lot, right? So I post, you guys will see it sometimes. I'll post in the morning, what I like to do after a workout, which is a lot of raw egg yolks, and then I'll mix it with supplements.

That gets a lot of views? Yes, so today I did, I do, we're do. Today I did the Paleo Valley organ complex pills, which I love because organ meat is so healthy and nutrient dense, but it tastes disgusting. I mean, straight up. In fact, that's not gonna stop you.

We were gonna trucky and Doug had a bag of liver jerky. It's so disgusting. And I can't notice. It's the tongue of the whole car. I will so disgusting. And I can't notice. It's stuck up the whole car. I will take disgusting stuff all the time. If I think it's gonna be good for performance or whatever. I have no problem doing that. That just means it's healthier.

That was the worst fucking thing I've had in my life. Whatever he gave me, I could still taste it in my mouth. But anyway, so I take the Paleo Valley organ complex and then I show the cup where I crack the raw egg yolks and today I did eight egg yolks and people lose their shit over it every time dude they're like aren't you gonna die? What about the cholesterol? Oh my god I'm like oh you know Really? Yeah, so manila. The Electoral that you talked about this? Yes and okay for people don't know I've said this under time post workout cholesterol has got some great muscle building effects

Here's another thing, by the way, went to the store the other day, and they didn't have the eggs that I always buy, which are pasture. I always get the pasture raised eggs. When's the last time you guys had regular, conventional eggs? You guys, I mean, when I had chickens. They had them quite often.

Yeah, but your chickens, they ate bugs and shit, right? Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm talking about when you go to the store, and you get the mass produced. You're talking about comparing to cut the color contrast. How different it is. Oh, this is the, yeah, the mass manufactured ones.

Bro, they're like zombie eggs compared to pastures. Pastures. They are. Because they're now. Well, they have small yolks. They're the color. The color is like pale. They're way, if you put them right next to each other

and have them a long time. If you put them right next to each other, if you don't really pay attention, the average person probably has no idea. But when you put them right next to each other, if you don't really pay attention, the average person probably has no idea, but when you put them right next to each other, it's like way different. Oh yeah, pastorase eggs, because they let the chickens go out and eat bugs and stuff.

They're like a really rich, orange-ish yellow color. Yeah, delicious. They're like orange. The other ones are yellow. Yeah, the other ones are like a light yellow. And then the yolk is like plump and it has a lot of integrity, and the shell is harder. The other eggs, the shell is like plump and it has a lot of integrity and the shell is harder. The other eggs, the shell is like paper, the eggs like thin, like, oh I'm eating these

are all the ones that they slam right next to each other in little cages. Yeah. And just just make them pump out. Yeah. There's ambiance. There's machines. Yeah. But anyway, I always get like a whole butt side, you know, handful of pills, right? Let's just my work in complex. And then egg yolks and people like, what is going on? Hey, on the topic of food. So, more, also brilliant marketing here. Okay, so you guys are assuming not like fans of Denys, right? Denys is not like on your top 100.

You're talking about Lumberjack's land, right? I mean, moons over my head. We agree like pretty much this is drunk food. You're right, it's like the absolute last option, right? If you're starving at two o'clock in the morning. When all your inhibitions are gone from alcohol and so we can all agree, it's like some of the worst food, right? Either a trucker or you're like 500 pounds.

So I brought this up on the show, I think like, I don't know, six months ago. Do you remember when I brought up what Chuck E. Cheese was doing? Yeah, they created like an Italian sounding pizza brand. Yes. So okay Katrina night late night. Chuck a rally listen late night We're listen Linda listen. We're listen. We are we're we're looking late night on on you know uber eats or whatever door dash, right? And Katrina was craving a burger and it was actually really late and she's like she's like oh my she's like oh my god This look at this new place and she pulls it up and it's called the burger den and the photos are like look and I'm like wow That looks really good don't tell me it's

Denny's those motherfuckers and they named it the burger den and and they to trick you yes Isn't that brilliant now did you get the burger hell no I read into it into it first, because I was like, this is too good to be true. It's like 11 o'clock at night, never heard of this place. $4.00 burger. Yeah, yeah. I was like, and $5.00 and really, and really, really small fine print. It says hosted by Denny's,

but it's all branded like, it's the burger den. Like it's this, Now is there a burger down? Doesn't that sound like a good place? Right, so is it a burger den or is it? No, it's dinnies. It's just like the, the, just like,

so when you order it, then he's makes it, it's at dinnies, the guy picks up a dinner. So is it spelled burger den or burger den? It's D-E-N. Okay, what's the difference? I don't know. Just as I need to paint the picture.

But doesn't that, just wait a minute. Doesn't that sound like a good burger joint? It does, right? I mean, who wouldn't want to go into a den for burgers? That's how I feel like that, right? And it almost got Katrina. I thought that was really smart. So I'm wondering now like how there it is.

I'll look at it. Denny's to offer burger den, meltdown virtual brands. Huh? That's, that is smart. It is smart to trick people. It is. It is. It's smart to bamboozle you into food

that you normally wouldn't order. Yeah. Well, you gotta think there's a, okay. Now, I also think that Denny's has such a bad name as far, and maybe they have a decent burger, right? Cause I can't even, I probably haven't had a burger from there since I was a kid. And maybe it's okay, and somebody who has it,

who doesn't know it's Denny's, and goes, now this is my spot. Look at the branding, it looks good. I told you. And then look at the branding, it looks good. I told you. And then look at the bottom, they have another place called the Meltdown. Dude, the power of association, right? Bro, you guys know Hagen Daws is an American company.

They made up the name Hagen Daws because it sounds like it's some like, for an authentic Austrian or German name or something. So I wonder how many big brands like that and the fast food type places are pivoting and doing this. Because if you're just, if you're not really paying attention, if you doordash, you don't know.

You don't know. And what I don't know either is, are they, do they even go the extra step of actually sending it in a different package? Like I'm curious if I would have ordered the burger din if it would have- Yeah, if it came in a different paper bag that said burger dinn instead of saying dinnies

and so you could be ordering for there for months and have no idea that you're eating a Ford all or dinnies per day. Disgusting. Yeah, I'm a- There reminds me of those old commercials where they used to have like the taste test. You know, and they'd like put one brand X or this.

You know, and then you'd like eat one and they'd be all, oh my God, I couldn't even believe that it was talk about. Didn't Pepsi start the Pepsi challenge? I'll take the Pepsi and Coke. Yeah, I'll take the Pepsi challenge all day. That's what it was. Right, I do in this in real life. Yeah, years ago my aunt got my uncle real good

because this is back in the day when bottle water wasn't a big deal. Nowadays everybody buys bottle water, but back in the day, if you bought bottle water, people would tease you about it because you could get water from the tap. It's the ultimate hustle of anything. Yeah, so he would buy bottle,

I don't remember what the brand was, but he'd buy bottle water all the time and he'd say, no, it tastes better. It's totally better. Love it. So she got the bottles and she filled them with tap water and gave it to him just to see what he would say and he said nothing.

And then she's like, ah, I got you. That's San Jose municipal water. I could tell that. You got tricked. I could tell. I could tell. If you're in a bad place here, I think I would take that challenge with like the water up in Tahoe.

I think that water is so good that you can probably fool some people, but you're in San Jose. There's no, there's no. I don't know, dude. The ultimate I heard was, you know how like crazy wine people are with the small yeas and these people have like the pallets to like describe all these different things.

Well, I guess there was one guy that was really good at this, like he could identify all the elements for each one of like the most expensive wines in the world. And so he just started mixing wines and trying to like recreate them and basically sell them for the crazy price, like'd sell a really old, exclusive wine to big companies, and they bought them and everything.

This is a big hustle. Wow, that's crazy. Well, so here's the thing with water that you gotta be careful now is that they're finding because women take birth control, right? They go to the bathroom, traces of that getting up in the water, people flush their drugs all the time in the toilet, so they'll flush their old antibiotics,

they're all whatever. So these traces of chemical zenoestrogens end up in your water all the time. So getting it extra purified and stuff is probably a good idea nowadays. You know, it probably makes sense. Is it ridiculous? I don't know, I don't know where I'm speaking out of turn here,

like not knowing any information around this, but is it ridiculous to have the water companies like have reverse osmosis before it's sent to your house? Like why would, like everyone buys these now, it's created this aftermarket thing, but why wouldn't there be an opportunity for a competitor, like water irrigation district or something to create? Well, they actually do a pretty damn good job

cleaning the water to be quite honest. It's just, you would take it through another process if you were to add your own filter. So now it's gonna get cleaned again and you're likely to open it. Yeah, like what's up with that market? Like why can't somebody else come in? It's not a market, dude.

It's not what it means to see. No, bro, that's the city. The city and the state, dude. Could so it's controlled by the government. Yeah, bro, that's a, that's a, that's a lot of money. That's why there's no innovation. Yeah, that's always. that's a, that's a, that's why there's no innovation. Yeah, that's always. That's why I feel like I feel like if you were actually

would have make that competitive and allow companies to compete for your service, you would, you would eliminate. That sounds very logical. Of course. Of course. Of course. Yeah. That sounds very, very logical.

I'm on well waters. I'm doing good. Speaking of chemicals, there's now this research that's coming out that showing that this particular chemical, I think it's called TCE, I'll look it up, is maybe contributing to this explosion of Parkinson's disease. So they predict this is what's found in. I'll tell you.

So researchers believe a factor is a chemical used in dry cleaning and household products, such as shoe polysus and carpet cleaners is causing this explosion of Parkinson's. They think, so check this out. Parkinson's has increased, I don't know this, 35% in the last 10 years. Whoa.

The last decade it's gone up 35%, this researcher thinks it'll double in 25 years Yes, and so the the chemical that we're talking about it is TCE It's trichloroethylene and it's found in industrial Degreasing dry cleaning and household products such as some shoe polishes and carpet cleaners And it's been it's a carcinogen. It's been shown to cause renal cell carcinoma, cancers of the cervix liver, lymphatic system, and male breast tissue, fetal cardiac defects.

Now, how do they come to this? Like, how do they decide that they're going to go test this thing? Well, here's the problem with this. Or, like, how did you make this correlation of, like, all of a sudden, we notice people that were in these, like, you know, carpeted, the carpeted history cleaning, and then they as Here's the problem with some of these chemicals. It takes a long time to see these effects, right? So they're saying here that exposure

Yes, that you you get exposed to it little by little over time and it could take Decades before stuff like this starts to happen. So how the hell do you test that right? The the regulations on testing chemicals is like So how the hell do you test that, right? The regulations on testing chemicals is like six months, nine months, test it for nine months. Oh, it looks like it's not doing anything. Therefore it's safe. But you know, something like this might take 10, 15 years. How do you test that, right?

Wasn't this always your argument too with like all the different artificial sweeteners and stuff, right? It's just everything. Most of those studies are pretty short term. And you know, here's an example of like, okay, in the short term effect, it's not bad for you to do this, but how about we do this for 15 years?

Well, how do you tease that out every day? Was it a monsanto or like the round up thing where it would have one of the CEOs are telling him to like, to consume it? It was like, no way. Yeah, he's like, it's so safe. You can eat it. Okay, do it. Yeah, but it idiot. He was like, no way. Yeah, he's like, it's so safe, you can eat it. Oh, okay, do it. Yeah, I'm gonna eat it.

He's like, super sad. You can totally drink it. And they're like, okay, drink it. It's a, yeah, no. Wool way. Yeah, I don't want to do this right now. I'm cool, bro. Oh, so you have doubt.

Yeah, it's okay. His bluff got cold. But that's what happens. And that's why, I'm not like this guy that thinks you should live in a cave in the woods and, you know, drink creek water and whatever you want to do, that's fine. I'm just saying we're exposed to so much stuff in cumulative that you're, you're probably, it's probably a good idea to limit what you know. You can limit. It's probably a good idea. And you won't notice tomorrow, but you

might notice when you're 70, you know, you're not. Dude, I got a little fun fact for you guys. Let's see if you can guess. Oh, good. Let's do it. So we're gonna play the fun fact music. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude tires produced in the world. The one year? No. Firestone. Pirelli? No.

Legos. What? What? Oh, wait, wait, you mean the Lego cars? Oh, that is stupid. That was a trick. That was stupid. You guys are so dumb.

Okay. Damn. Did you know that, did you know that Mr. He fooled us? Did you know that Mr. Goodyer actually died poor? You know that? Oh, he spent his whole fortune trying to invent. Yeah, I read that.

Yeah, imagine this. Why I think his wife left them. I think everything bad. Yeah, I forgot the whole, I mean I read that all. What happened to him? A long time. Oh, he said he didn't have like a crazy. I mean, he spent his year.

He's no, he spent his whole life trying to get it off the ground and didn't actualize it. Yeah, yeah, I did actually really start making a lot of money until after he was his passing on. So obviously it's now a massive, massive company and makes tons of money. No, it's kind of bums me out when somebody does something so great

and they never get to see it, actually get to the point where everybody enjoys it. That's annoying as hell. Did you imagine, you die and then you're family and then someone else gets rich. So it says here, in 1855, good year was in prison for debt in Paris, wow. And then his patents in the US were in French upon

and his invention made millions for others, but at his death, he left debt of $200,000. Back then, that's a lot. Back then, that's a ton of money. You're like, thanks. You know, I have some more random facts for you too. Justin, you would know this, right? Okay, have you ever heard the story of Michael Jordan

not making his high school basketball team? Is that true? It's not. Well, I mean, it is, but it isn't, right? So he uses that story as like one of his, like, main. The biggest motivator. Yes, but he was, he was a freshman trying out for Varsity

and he didn't make the Varsity team. Okay, that's an interesting detail. Right, it's a very interesting detail. It's also says a lot about his character of like he used that as fuel to be like, I'm not good enough for these guys, I can get this good. And so what freshman Dino's playing on varsity? Well, I mean, there is some, but I'm just saying that's like exception. Yeah, well truth be told, if I had to guess, it would be Michael Jordan.

Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, that's why that's why the story works and so many people share it because it yeah, it was already was like short and everything for a while and then all of a sudden like he had this big roast later. Yeah, he's he's proud of it. I didn't know that though. Like so I was reading a book or listening to a book yesterday and they talked about that stat. I thought that was really interesting. I also read that he when he went and went did the dream team, the Olympic team originally, his main motivation to join the team was actually to play with all the other NBA players so he could learn all their flaws and weaknesses.

So he could then take it back to the festival. Sounds like a Jordan move. Totally right? The next season? I thought that was really cool. Yeah, best basketball player of all time. It is. Oh, boss.

Hands down. He's the only one I know. The comments are crazy right now. Better than the bronze. King James. Yeah. Better than all of them. So you want some more controversy?

This is going to piss off all the sense of it. Oh, wow. I have some controversy too. You do? Yeah, maybe I'll leave mine for another day. Well, we'll see. Well, this is not that controversy. Well, this is not that controversial.

Double down kind of data. So the American Journal of Physical Anthropology published some new information saying that, sorry everybody, humans were hyper carnivores, apex predators for two million years. In other words, we ate mostly animal. Oh, no. For a long time. Oh, no. Not just lettuce.

And this is because there were big animals that we could hunt and eat from like the mammoths, the woolly mammoths, and we did a good job killing them. In fact, we almost think in some cases made them extinct, but mean. But this is what, so look, here's a deal, okay? If you really break it down, humans are, we evolved to eat meat. We absolutely did. We did not evolve to survive off of pretty much almost anything else. Oh, you're gonna trigger a bunch of it.

It's true, dude. It's totally true. So, yeah, and it's why our brain, by the way, our brains shrink a little bit when we went to eating a lot of agriculture. You guys know that? And will that's what they've connected it to? Yeah, so we got bigger brains. Our eyes are in front of our head.

That's what you see in predators. Obviously, we're very intelligent, probably. That's what you see in predators. Obviously we're very intelligent. Probably because that's what makes good pack hunters is to work together and be smart. In fact, carnivores tend to be smarter than herbivores. Isn't the brain mainly consistent fat? We get the majority of it. Dude, the brain, there's no way

we would have these massive brains if we didn't eat a shit ton of animal fats. In proteins, just what didn't happen a shit ton of animal fats in proteins just wouldn't happen. And again, if you look at like herbivores versus carnivores, herbivores tend to be pretty dumb animals. Carnivores tend to be very smart tend to have complex social networks and that kind of stuff. So forever, that's what we were. Yeah, isn't there that whole thing with prey and predators where your eyes set, you know, like the the the prey's eyes are set back a bit. Just to look around. Yeah, versus the predators like focused on out in front. Everything's

out in front. Absolutely. Well, that reminds me of what I just send over to you guys. I think I sent it yesterday, the day before. And by the way, I haven't watched it. So before you freak out and crucify me for saying this, but I somebody who I respect in the space was doing basically a Review on that documentary. Oh, is it C-spiracy or something? Yeah, C-spiracy And so I watched 15 minutes of it and I had to stop yeah, and I just I think Justin said the same thing too He's just like oh my god, so terrible. It made me angry like immediately. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I just I wanted to watch it because I had a lot of people like recommending like, I want to see what you guys think about this, you know, documentary and I just, I just couldn't get into it because it was so negative.

And we should watch and do a whole thing. We should watch so we can do like our complete opinion. So what I'm sharing right now is, is, is here say from somebody else. So I want, you know, fact check me. But I believe that the people that made this also made cow spheracy and also made what the hell. Yeah, really. So I watched 50 minutes and then I skimmed through it

and I could see what they were trying to do. I haven't watched it fully, but it looks like what they're trying to do is set you up to make the case to never eat fish again. Yeah. Now, if I'm on the, you know, don't eat any animal products ever side. So if I'm one of those people, right?

Like only plants eating animals is terrible. We shouldn't do it. I would really have to, I would get together with my smart friends and I'd say, okay, how can we attack fish because fish is healthy? We could go after beef because there's some studies that show this, we could maybe, but what about fish? Like fish. And the angle that they're coming up from is

pollution, we're killing all the fish and therefore and there is no sustainable way to have fish. Therefore, we should never eat it before ever eat it again That's the angle they're trying to come from. Yeah, yeah. Now the truth is Fish is one of the last wild animals that we eat quite a bit. For the most part, if we, you know, beef, it's from cows that we raise, if it's chickens, it's chickens that we raise. So fish is one of the last wild things.

I do believe in the future that we'll probably have to figure out really good ways of farming fish. Well, there's more responsible ways to do it for sure. I think they're probably highlighting just like they'd highlight, you know, ways that they farm, they factory farm, you know, the disgusting ways that like some people do things versus like, you know, the more of the mom and pop and the smaller operations, like, you know, that are catching fish responsibly, all those things, like, I don't know that I saw any of that highlighted. I find this, I mean, this is what it is, it's happening, I feel like it for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past, for the past,

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Here's why you see a lot of money in this. You cannot patent animals, okay? So I can't, I don't have, I can't have a company that only has cows and nobody else has cows. Therefore, you buy my cow product. We don't have genetically modified patented animals, so big corporations can't monopolize on them like they can with plants.

With plants, there's GMO plants that are patented, and if they could GMO patent animals, you would see this reverse, but what they want, they know this, they know if they get people – Yeah, you spider goats. – They get people to stop eating all animal products, now they're gonna eat just our product, our patented wheat or soy or corn based whatever products, and we're gonna make bazillions of dollars. I even, I think less conspiracy, right?

I think it's true. I know, here I, and less, do your research. Policies, I see conspiracy. I think it's more that we do live in this time where the The clickbait titles and the alarmist type of content sure is what causes things to go viral right if they they came out and just made the simple case of like Here's some bad things. Hey together. We should be better about this But it's the the shock and awe and the extreme opposing sides that causes the viability, right?

It's just like what we see. Where do we become so numb that all these tactics just stop? I believe it's coming. Yeah, I do believe it's coming. Here's what I disagree with you. Every magazine, everything that they're trying to throw, something in there that's a curve ball for society to be like, deal with this.

Here's what I disagree with you. Look off fuck. Here's what I disagree with you, okay off fuck. Here's why I disagree with you. Okay. What was it? Rob Wolfe's documentary. He talks about, they're blocking it all over the place. Hard to find to watch.

You don't see Netflix posting that up. Well, I see it. That's where the conspiracy is. Yeah, part, come on. Well, I think that's less conspiracy. Also, I think that's, okay, here's the thing. Okay. We have our own ideologies, right? And philosophies and, and, and, and, and beliefs

as far as truth. Yeah, we, we didn't really. Are you referring to truth? I don't know. Okay. Okay. So let's just, in his pure form, let's just pretend there's an objective that mind pump media is, you know, a hundred X, we know what it is today, which, which if we were 100x, that means we would be much more like a Netflix where we have all kinds of people working for us and providing content for us. And we're a privately owned company and we make decisions. It would be hard if you had somebody who you completely disagree with their political views to allow their content on your channel

you built from the ground up with your ideology. So I think that what you see more of with Facebook and I think it's less of this is weird that they all agree though. Well, I mean, I it's so in that strange. Yeah, look, I tell you what, when you have it's program. I'll tell you something right now. Okay, here's my, play the X-Files music or whatever, because here's my, just, I do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, like, their Amazon, they're constantly competing and trying to win market share. So they're not like friends in the back, they're competitors, which is great. I love that, I love that, makes them better.

But then all of a sudden, very strangely, sometimes, they just all agree together, eliminate that, get rid of that, get kicked this person off or kick that person off. That doesn't sound like they're all just on their own, oh, this is what we need to do. It sounds to me like, how do you, somebody ordered them? Yeah, but how do you explain somebody,

how do you explain like somebody, and this is why I love Elon Musk, who, it pushes back. I just think that, how do I explain him? Yeah, because, it's hard they go after him. I know.

Well, I mean, but I think that, I don't think so much that they're trying to control all of those companies as much as I think that those people, a lot of their ideology, aligns with some of these big government people. Big government wants more government, wants more regulation, wants to hire more people, some of these big companies, whether you're your, your liberal or conservative, you see the, companies, whether you're liberal or conservative, you see the power in, ooh. Do you think they made these moves to push off the government?

Well, no, no, no, no, I mean to appease them. Thank you. So they don't come in. Well, appease them, or get them befriend them so that when it comes time to make it more difficult for another company that would be in their space to come in and compete with them, they can say, hey, they're doing here this way. And hey, this is weird.

What I see is like all these laws now. I think the department, you know, the CIA or by the way, they run a lot of things behind the scenes that nobody knows. We know this. We have UFOs, right? We have fat. No, forget that. But we have, we know this.

They do, I think. There's confirmed times when they've gotten money and raised money in illegal ways to in the in the name of protecting national security, right? The CIA that's their job and they operate outside of the elected government officials if they think that it's for the safety of the country for whatever reason Then they'll make should happen. I think they walk into the office of someone like Mark Zuckerberg, and like, here's a deal, Mark. We want you, and they do this to Twitter, they do this to all the others.

We want you to take these people off your platform. I can do that. I am a human. Yeah. And you take these people off your platform because it's for national security. And then if Zuckerberg, whoever says, I don't think I want to do that. I think I'd like to keep them on. They say, well, if you go look at the Patriot Act

that was passed, you know, post 9-11 or, you know, NDAA, technically, you have to listen to us. Otherwise, we can jail your ass and not go to whatever, or we can find the fuck out of you, or we can mess with you. So these guys are like, all right, do what they say. See, I feel like if you have that much power, whatever or we could find the fuck out of you or we can mess with you. So these guys are like, all right, do what they say. See, I feel like if you have that much power, you're that intelligent. And if the government tried to bully you, I mean, we've talked about this, right?

We're, no, we're gonna be shaking. We are nowhere near, okay? We're nowhere near as big or as brilliant as the Elon Musk and the Zuckerbergs. We've even said this before. If someone came in and fucked with us,'ve already built a community of of loyal people that that believe in what we're doing and stand behind us that we burn the whole fucker down get rid of mind pump change the name whatever and i i we all have that confidence you can't tell me that zucker bird and elan

must can all these guys i think their values align with them i think they align i think that's why they do it. Otherwise, they justify it because they're like it's national security. They're telling me to do this. You know, maybe I should or I think it's a lot scarier than you think. I don't think it's just losing your business to just bunch of pussy.

Bro, look how they go after it. When it's time for somebody to be gone, look how they get taken out from all angles. Look at what's his name, governor of New York. Coma? Yeah. Bro, they were giving them hand jobs when the pandemic was going on.

All of a sudden news started coming out that the dude probably killed a lot of old people. It was responsible for that. By sending them back into the care homes and that was coming out. And so all of a sudden his own side is attacking them for being a pervert or whatever, which everybody already knew.

So it sounds like they're like, oh, sorry, you gotta go before they figure out this other stuff, so. That's more conspiracy-touch. Yeah. Yeah. This is all allegedly. You got me going, bro.

I don't. I got to say allegedly. I feel like Doug's over there like eyeball me in the corner of his eye. Don't you bring your shit up, no, it's you. It's like, don't you bring your shit up, what's that happened to? I'll save my coach aversey for the next episode. Hey, it's a good thing there's three of us, right? Imagine if That's it dude. I'll save my controversy for the next episode.

It's a good thing there's three of us, right? You're right. If there's three me, we be off the air so fast. Well, I mean, the one thing I've always appreciated about you, I think why we all hit it off is that we're all open-minded. Yeah. And I'm willing to have a debate with somebody and I'm willing to change my mind. I don't think I have all the answers in this.

I think we're speculating. Yeah. You know? Oh yeah, I'm totally speculating my mind. I don't think I have all the answers in this. I think we're speculating. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm totally speculating, by the way. Yeah, I don't know for sure. Right. It's so weird, everything has been going on. It's almost like we're just trying to make sense out of whatever we can in McRitter.

In narrative at this point. But sometimes too, the stuff that we talk about on the show, I'm always concerned that, you know, is that because too, I have a tendency to get a lot of the information from my side of the political spectrum. Yeah, you're right, 100%. And they just do a good job at confirming my... You have your bias.

I already have a bias. It's like an alarmist. Yeah, you're getting all this like, oh my god. Well, Daniel, I do my best that, you know, even if I, I mean, I'm playing devil's advocate with you, but of course there's a lot that I believe I agree with you. But I got to always challenge that in myself and go like, okay, well, you know, you're right. I've been fooled. I've been fooled before because I had my own bias. And then I come back and go, wow, it was totally, you know, wrong.

So that's happening before. Yeah. And because because here it's too, when you talk about like the political die, I really think that most for the most part, both sides, extreme left extreme right, are all fucking buddies. Oh yeah. You know, they're all, they're behind the scenes. Yeah, they're like, okay, hey, this is why they can write in all this other stuff into these bills. Yeah, they have the same spot.

I think they're hanging out there going, all right, this time you get to win. Okay, so we'll really let that you see it. I think it doesn't matter who wins. I think they go out and they make people feel like they have to pick one or the other. Yeah, that's what they do. Well, yeah, whoever you pick, it don't matter. Yeah, no, it's like you're Pepsi and Coke analogy you always bring up, which I think is a great idea.

Well, here along those lines, you hear that they're proposing, what's their name, Janet Yellen, she used to be the, was she used to run the Federal Reserve or whatever. She proposed a worldwide, minimum corporate tax rate. And that'll never fly. She proposed a worldwide minimum corporate tax rate. And it'll never fly. Bro, the international monetary fund just supported it.

Wow. Yeah, that's a great idea. Now, why are they doing this? Because... So you won't leave out of your country. Because big countries like us, when we want to raise our corporate tax rate, we know that companies will leave and go to other countries that are trying to attract them. And so what they want to do is create this minimum so that they don't lose.

Why do you always lead with punish instead of incentivize? Yeah. I don't understand. Like, why can't we just incentivize businesses to promote them to create more jobs and do things to stimulate the economy instead of hammer them? We do that on a state level, don't we? We talked about this. Well, they're state taxes, but this is a federal corporate tax rate.

Right? And they're talking about raising it, and they know if we raise it, we may lose some of these major companies to countries where their corporate tax rate is lower. And so they want to have a minimum, like a treaty. All right, all these countries, they all agree that the minimum corporate tax rate is this, that way you're... You know, there's people, I have friends that are like this, they hear stuff like that, and they're all about it because it's like, get the rich, you know.

But the truth is what a lot of these morons don't know is the really, they are, you're a moron if you really think that, they're really super rich, they're already five steps ahead of that shit. They already have loopholes to get around that. They're probably paying called with banks. You know what, it fucks, the guy or girl in the middle. It hurts that person. It hurts the person that isn't making a ton of ton of,

the people that make a lot of money, they've got the right people on their team to make a phone call and be like, okay, this is what the government's doing now. How do we work around this? How do we, how do we lose here? How do we gain there? How do we make it look like we're doing this there?

How do we do the, okay, fine. So that you jump at the 29% that's fine. We just reduced it by 13% by moving some parts around. They're probably in there writing the law with them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I don't, you know, so the, the, the, the little guy or girl that, you know, it always wants to like enforce these things because they think, yeah, get the rich.

And so now we all level out more. Come back doesn't. It doesn't, it doesn't. It hurts the person in all level out more. Come back to us. It doesn't. It doesn't. It hurts the person in the middle, man. It hurts the person that is in the middle that doesn't have that luxury. That worked hard for seven years to get to a place

where they're finally making maybe six figures and they're like having a little bit of freedom in their life and then they get slapped with some shit like that. That's who it kills. It does not hurt the billionaire. The billionaire could piss that money away in a day. I mean, some of these guys are making so much money.

I don't even think it's possible to spend that every single day. So this means nothing to those people. Yeah, pretty crazy. All right, I'm gonna go back to health and fitness here for a second. Just write a study that showed I know. Exactly, they got it.

I see Doug's face on me. Sorry, Doug. I just read an interesting study on vitamin D. So vitamin D, apparently your muscles can actually store vitamin D and help maintain it in the winter. So having more muscles, so we know it's about vitamin D deficiency. Wow, that's interesting.

Yeah, so another reason why, or something else that shows that having muscle is protective. It's like your armor and it protects you against illness. Another reason why, or something else that shows that having muscle is protective, it's like your armor and it protects you against illness. In this study, it shows that, so low vitamin D is pretty common, especially in modern societies. We don't get a lot of sun, or enough sun like we should be getting. Low vitamin D causes immune issues, it causes bone problems, hormone issues.

They're showing that having more muscle reduces that because vitamin D accumulates in skeletal muscle cells. So then you have a functional store during winter months. Now, so one more reason to build muscle. That's a reason. Really fast. Now, is there enough information on that to, is it negligible or is it actually?

No, no, it's significant according to this study. Yeah. That's fascinating. Build that muscle, speaking of which, are you guys getting comments on the bubble gum pulse, the mind pump bubble gum pulse? It's, I think last time I talked to Mike, it's become, I think, one of his number one cell.

People love that flavor. Yeah, that was a good call. That was a good call. Adam's the one that came up with that. I thought it might be a little sour, but it's good. Are you gonna give me credit right now? That was your Yeah, that was a good call. That was a good cool. Adam's the one that came up I thought it might be a little sour, but it's good That was your idea dude. I remember Justin wanted cheddar flavor That wasn't good We do Dorito not a cheese. I wanted pesto flavor didn't work out

No, that was it. That was a great idea. It's our Dean flavor people people love it Yeah, I like the bubble gum and green apple. I think of the two that I go back and forth. Yeah, I would say those are probably the two best flavors of my favorite. But he does make a really good, I mean, it's the best pre-workout. Now, where are you guys, where are you at? Because we always talk about, you know, coming off back on,

like where are you, I've actually been off the pre-workouts for a while, so. My caffeine is just so high right now. It is. Yeah, dude, I got to back off and what I think I'm gonna do, because I know we got a couple of days off coming up, as I told Jessica, I'm gonna try and sleep most of the day, just to allow my body to, you know, just get rid of some

of this. She's excited about that. Do you wanna know what, I mean, and I don't know if maybe you can tell me if there's any science to support this, but I actually notice a big difference when I do the sauna. So if I feel like that, where I've got too much in my system and I wanna kind of get it out

or detox whatever, you know, I don't know what the term is that I should use to be correct here. But when I get in the sauna and I do that a couple times, I feel like it speeds up that process of me getting back to where I can... You're probably right. I don't know, I don't know what the science would be, but you're probably right. But for me,. I don't know what the signs would be,

but you're probably right. But for me, I gotta go off, and there's a day or two where I'm just dog shit. Well, that kind of explains to you like what Ben Greenfield was talking about in terms of reset and sort of your circadian rhythms and you know, and see, like a red light sauna is good for that. So I don't know if that relates to that at all.

You know what else I learned? I sure this on the podcast. I sure this was Sal off air that I thought was interesting. So you guys know I've openly talked about my hormone therapy and I've been back on testosterone for a while now. Just recently switched over to another company that we're using and really liked this doctor, Sal. I can't wait to interview him.

Yeah, Sal. Dr. Rand McClain. Yes. Sal introduced him to me and I was like this doctor, Sally. You can't wait to interview him. Yeah, yeah. It's how Rand McClain. Yes. Sally introduced him to me and I was like, I'm fine where I'm at, but man, he just, he, and I wish that I could regurgitate exactly what he knows is shit. Yeah, you could tell he really knew he's talking about. And I thought, okay, so I thought there, I would need more testosterone than you guys because of my abuse of it for so much. Oh, I see.

Because it just makes sense, right? The body adapts to it. You're like, there's a standard dose. You need more because of your past. Yeah. Okay. And it is, I do need more. He told me, he referred to me as an expensive date.

That was the analysis. Well, we would say, based off, and he broke it all down to me, he says, where I see your levels going after seven days from your shot, we would consider you an expensive date. And I was like, oh, I said, well, that makes sense. I said, because I took so much for so many years that that was probably why my body. And he's like, no, actually the science

doesn't support that. I said, really, he goes, yeah, it's just, everybody is genetically different. And he goes, yeah, it's just everybody is genetically different. And, you know, he goes, I got guys that were abusing steroids for 30 years, taking ridiculous grams of it, and then have been off, and then we get them on a therapeutic dose, and they need hardly anything, and it just keeps them nice and level. And then you have other people. And he said it has a lot to do with my, what's the word, Sal, my, yeah, my receptors, right? Oh, your Andrew Jim receptor.

Yeah, I was thinking of mid-echlorians. Yeah, mid-echlorians. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, it was wrong. Yeah, no, he said something about my receptor density, right? So, in fact, I talked about this in a recent podcast. They were showing the, trying to see that, you know, men with naturally higher testosterone levels

versus men with lower testosterone levels, within range, within healthy range, right? Did the men with higher testosterone build more muscle and get better results? And the answer was no, it wasn't the testosterone levels, it was the Androgen receptor density. There was something else too that he was telling me. I wish I remember.

Maybe some of the way your body processed it. Well, also like a different number. Like I've always been taught to like pay attention to the free testosterone, the 400 to 1200 range. And although that's a marker they watch, he goes, there was another number that he was more interested in that was lower. And he was telling me that, you know, you should consider that you're taking this.

And so the audience knows, you know, I started off on 150 milligrams a week, the other place noticed that I was actually dipping down lower than what I initially started. At the end, like at the 70 more than 60 miles. Yeah, like the day seven, right? And the goal for them is they would, they told me originally, they wanna keep me at about 600. So on my drop down, single lower than that. Doesn't go lower than that.

And I was actually dropping lower than what I initially even started. So they, and they're really cautious. They only moved me up 10 milligrams. So they've actually done that three times. I went from 150, 160, 170, 180. And even at 180, I'm still dropping down to 4.75. And so that's what he alluded to of being an expensive date

and probably have to go like every five days that I'd have to take it. But there was another number, I'll have to have you talk to them. You're better with this stuff when you, because you remember this way better than I do. But he was really breaking it down to me and I was really impressed. So I'm excited to have him come on the show and talk

because I- It's gonna be great. All of the most informative person in an intelligent hormone doctor I've ever talked to. Yes, you need to know your stuff when you're working with, it's not just taking testosterone. It's very different from person to person.

Yeah, and he is the man. Yeah, so he was kind of, he's kind of explained too, like some of these companies, they use very general and basic rules. He's like, I've been doing this so long, he says, you know, there's exceptions to every rule, which, I mean, I can totally identify and relate to that. We talk about that with fitness.

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between risk and reward, we combine exercises being more biased towards risk with higher loads and the low the rate. So how does someone like me program use of more isolation exercises and still gain the same amount of strength and muscle? Okay, so very good question. I would like to get a little bit more information if that's okay. So is it the load that's okay. So is it the load? That's the problem or is it the intensity? It's a load at the moment. What I have is quite rare, so there isn't a lot of information around it, but it seems to be, I can still go to a point of failure, but the higher the load and the load of the reps, things seem to be a bit more difficult.

Got it. Oh, well, so there's lots of different ways to increase intensity and tension. One of them is with load. Obviously, that's being taken off the table for you. You could slow your reps down. You could do isometric training, which is very, very valuable.

You could do higher reps., which is very, very valuable. You could do higher reps. Studies actually show higher reps performed at high intensity can be almost as effective as low reps. Just do those things, and I think you'll be okay. As far as isolation versus compound, you'll probably have to do a little bit more volume, but feel it out. Here's something that might make you feel better. What you do to build muscle, oftentimes you can maintain it with much less work, load

and intensity. So in other words, if you built 10 pounds of muscle doing heavy dead lifts and squats and presses and whatever and you've kept that 10 pounds for a while, maintaining it, it's a lot easier to maintain it. You don't have to do quite as much volume, intensity, and load to maintain than you did when you were building. I would definitely, tempo is where I would go here, right? So I would just slow down the tempo.

And I mean, I'm watching Doug right now training and he's following, we have a new program that we're working on and he's following some of the protocol. And the tempo is a 422 in there, and I know, I think your experience right now with it's been, you've never experienced this, right? No, I have had to reduce my weight dramatically.

Yeah, so which, in this case, this is a perfect example of like, you know, because you can't do heavy load. And there's nothing that's, even though the research points to like the, you know, the 422, right, so 4 seconds on the negative 2 on the isometric and then and then 2 seconds on the concentric doesn't mean you can't do 622 doesn't mean you can't do 8 with a pause for 4 seconds I mean you can really manipulate and play with tempo a lot and it will make it feel like it is heavy as shit

And it doesn't have to be that heavy. Yeah, and just increasing your tension while going through that lift too, just intrinsically, like just squeezing harder as you're doing these wraps as well, even makes a difference. There's just a multitude of ways to add progressive overload.

Overload. Yeah, you know Phoebe, there was one time, I had only had access to a gym where the dumbbells went up to 30 pounds. And so for me, for a lot of exercises, that's too light. So what I did was exactly what we're telling you, is I went really slow, I focused hard on the squeeze, I did lots of pauses, lots of isometrics, lots of slow repetitions. And to my surprise, I actually, my body improved. I actually got

good results from it so much so that it became something that I injected into my regular routine. Okay. Okay. Great. What about the strength side of it? Because if that's muscle building and stuff like that, the strength have to be in the lower range. Can you still use the same? You're going to build strength doing that also. Yeah. You'll build strength doing that also. But you know, here's the thing you have to be in the low rep range. Can you still use the same? You're gonna build strength doing that also. Yeah, you'll build strength doing that also, but here's the thing you have to understand is that strength is also a skill.

So if you're not practicing something specific often, will you lose quote unquote strength in that particular thing? Probably. So in other words, if you are really strong at two reps with a squat, and then you go and perform, you know, 30 reps with a squat, like general strength, you'll probably be okay.

But yeah, you're going to lose some strength in the thing that you're not practicing very often. And that's, a lot of that has to do with the skill of the lift. But as far as how you look, how you feel, if anything, you're probably going to notice some benefit from this change. What I really like with isometrics is the way that you can actually apply a lot of max intensity. You can do that in a safe manner where you can also structure so you don't do quite as many reps.

You can emulate what you would be doing with compound lists, but now you're squeezing your entire body and ramping it up as high as you can go, intensity-wise, but then you can also back off at any time. Okay, that's great. That's great. Awesome. Alright, thanks, Phoebe. Cheers, thank you. Oh, it's cool, someone calling from France.

That's really awesome. Yeah, I'll wait that all the way over there. But yeah, we tend to get caught up. I was really curious to why or what? She didn't sound like I don't want to pry. I know I felt the same way. I was hoping you would, but you didn't. So I really wanted to know what it was. Because sometimes too, you know, sometimes that the doctors go this route because they just add a safety for safety, right? They don't want to be sued. And so they don't know a lot about what's going on.

So it's like liability. Yeah, it's like, you cannot ever lift heavy again. It's too risky. And it's like, man, I would like to know a little more. That's why I said intensity versus load because often it's intensity that the doctor says, you know, because I could go, look, I'll tell you what, like, yes, I could, let's say I could squat 400 pounds

for one rep, that's a lot of load and intensity, or let's say I squat a 250 pounds for 30 reps, the intensity's probably higher on that 30 rep. Or, or, or this, or take that 200 pounds and do just four reps still, but do them slow, do a, you know five six and that's what I mean it I'll tell you what you don't feel like it's ruling it'll feel like it's 400 and that's what I mean if it's intensity you

got to be careful for then then it doesn't matter load you know it's how intense the set is but she said specifically load so I'm assuming it has something to do with her connective tissue and her joints something that's causing issues with her instability yeah that's what I'm assuming. Yeah. Our next caller is Christian from Florida. Hey, what's up Christian, how can we help you? Hey, Sal, I want to say hi to Justin, Doug, Adam,

thanks guys for having me on. It's happening. So my question today is I'm trying to build both glutes and upper chest at the same time. So a little bit of context is I've been following an aggressive 12, 13-week cut and coming out of it I'm going to be reverse dieting and I want to take advantage of the extra calories and see if I can target two different areas at the same time while following a full body routine. That's actually not only exactly what map's aesthetic is.

You got to pick Titzer-ass Christian. Sure. There's one or the other, Titzer-ass. No, he wants a balanced physique. That is Christian that is literally map's aesthetic. So, a map's aesthetic is a full body routine that is designed to pick two body parts that you want to bring up and develop. Yeah, I think what you're,

it sounds like you're saying, is it gonna take away from, is it too much? Is it too much to focus on two body parts at a time? Not, so it doesn't really have to be designed. And the way it would basically works, and by the way, Christian, do you have maps aesthetic? No, I have prime pro to help with because I have a sleepy glutes syndrome. I just can't activate.

I'm very quiet dominant. But going into the cut, I didn't want to focus very ego. I didn't want to focus on what I needed to do. I just wanted to win a competition. So I just started training without really focusing. So that's where I want to really fine tune my lacking areas over the next three to five months. Okay.

All right. Well, you have maps aesthetic now. We're going to send that over to you. But essentially, it's a full body routine, but on the quote unquote off days or whatever, you're doing focus sessions. And this is where you're going to focus on the two areas you want to focus on in your case upper chest and Back Now one more suggestion if you do have sleepy glute right by the way

We did a YouTube video on that right so I'll make sure we link that to the to this if you do have sleepy glutes I do recommend you start your lower body workouts with an a glute focused exercise So I would do like hip thrust before I do a squat, for example, just to wake them up and connect them. So you could feel them in some of the other exercises more effectively. And for the audience, that doesn't all own maps aesthetic, so they kind of understand or get the program behind that. So it is a full body routine three days a week, and then two days you have what we call focus sessions,

and the theory and the idea or concept behind this is that you've got these compound lifts, and you're doing your more intense training on those full body day routines. And then on focus days, we're just doing isolation exercises. So we don't want to, you don't want to be doing heavy squads or over at barbell pressing

or anything that is going to do a lot of damage. All we're trying to do is kind of like trigger sessions, send a signal, but a little bit louder signal because we're springing the volume up. Yeah, exactly. We're just increasing volume. And so it's actually built into the program to scale you as you go through that. And it is literally designed to pick, we recommend that you pick one to two muscles to focus on on your, quote quote unquote, focus days. And we build it right into the program.

Awesome. Yeah. I'm going to have to regress from hip thrust. Whenever I do a hip thrust, my hamstrings just scream. So I'm going to go back and prime with Prime Pro or Prime before any of the sessions. But I appreciate it guys. Thank you so much. No problem. Thank you for calling. Yeah, it's a perfect routine. Perfect routine.

I mean, that's the textbook person that would use that program. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, really it's for anybody, even if it's just one muscle group that you want to bring up or even if you have more than two, it's still the protocol that I would take somebody through. And, well, I mean, I follow that program for most of my competing. So leading up to it, I did like more of an anabolic

before I got into shows. And then when I started the shows, it really looked a lot like aesthetic for well over a year. And all I did was, I just kept, every time I came back around, I would either change the body part focus that I was trying to develop based off of what I got back from the judges. Or if I was still like really trying to focus on the same muscle group because I still

needed more work, I would just start to scale the volume slowly up. So I just start to add a couple more sets every round that I went through. Our next color is Patty from New York. Hi Patty, how can we help you? Hi, so I am, first of all, I love you guys. I listen to you guys every morning. It's so cold to be talking to you. I'm calling about my MAP Santa Ballet progress.

So I ran anabolic. I absolutely loved it was really happy with my Squat and my deadlift progress. I tested you know my one rat maxes before and after and I was really happy with that But my bench and my strict press Terrible progress only five pounds on my bench and nothing on my overhead So and I've been stuck at the same weight since like the end of last year. So I'm looking to rerun andabolic

and make some modifications and changes to it. So I can address where I kind of lagged in my progress. So I'm just wondering, you know, what do you guys recommend I should do? What should I be incorporating or changing to help progress my upper body as much as or at least close to when I'm progressing on my lower body? Just one little wrinkle as I do with lupus. So my energy is kind of not always the most predictable. So I don't do

any of the trigger sessions. Two to three days full body seems to be my kind of happy spot. Okay, I'm glad you added that part because that definitely changes what my answer would be. So first number one, it's quite common for a female to see really good gains in lower body type movements and much slower gains in upper body movements. That's quite common. But the question you're asking is, how can I get my bench in my overhead press to go up? And because you have the loopess, what we're not going to do is just add volume to your workout, which is typically without...

Yes, that will work. Yeah, typically I'd recommend that. So what we're going to do instead is a volume transfer. Okay, so what I would have you do is reduce the amount of sets that you're doing for your squats and your deadlifts, and add those to those exercises that you would improve your bench press and overhead press. So it sounds like you found your sweet spot for total volume. I would stay within that and then do that volume transfer. By the way, I've trained many people with lupus and if you find the right amount of volume

you can make great progress. But as you know, as you know, if you go over it, then, you know, it's a disaster. Yeah, it's a good word for it. Patty, how long have you been training for? So on and off for like maybe two years, but I finally decided to stop being scared of the heavier weights and really focused in more last year and then, you know, overdid it. So I've been really good, really consistent since September. I haven't had to take any breaks,

which is actually a big deal. So that's when I really got more serious. And my husband told me to stop being afraid of trying to see how strong I really was. Yeah, awesome, awesome. I love that advice. Oh, you got plenty of room for gain still, and that's great.

Oh, yeah. I'm not pulling some great numbers You know, so are you are you working out from home? Are you working out in a gym? Yeah, I have a decent home setup So I've got an adjustable bench with one of those like adjustable racks over it and I have a cable machine Okay, so the other thing is this too So I mean of course the we always encourage everybody to follow the programs to a T when you first go through them, just so you can kind of get the philosophy of the programming and of course, many of those exercises are some of the biggest bang for your

buck. But here's an example where you can start to kind of manipulate and change movements in here. So I would also recommend, you know, subbing out some of the, you know, shoulder press or bench exercises for other bench or shoulder exercises or chest exercises. So, you know, feel free to get creative. Now, I wouldn't completely leave barbell movements, but there's exercises in there that you can exchange or change out or add to your routine and like South,

saying if you cut back on two sets of, you know, your squats, you can do two sets of a total different chest exercise or a shoulder exercise, which you'll probably get good benefits from that because your body's not used to that exercise. Now, Patty, have you noticed any sticking points in those lifts? Are there any part of the movements that you feel

like you lose strength in? Yeah, so when I'm doing my overhead press, I can definitely, I've tried playing around with push presses. I thought maybe that would help me build it up a little bit. So I know I can go heavier, but when I'm on my weight that I'm stuck at, if I try and go any heavier, I get stuck with the bar right about in line with my nose, and I can't quite get past that, but I can hold the thing over my head for forever.

Okay, so this is more like on the lockout portion for overhead. Do you feel it's a little bit unstable so in terms of being able to control the weight or is this just like a, you know, you're pushing it up, you just don't feel like you have that extra to extend? Yeah, I feel like I don't have enough gas in the tank to make it past that one point. Kind of like it's like a bump in the road, I can't get over. Yeah, you could do carries where you're,

so you said you're strong at the very top. Yeah, I can stand there all the way. It's ridiculous. But it's when you're at your nose level that you get stuck. Yeah, I can't get past that. So you could do isometrics in that position. So you could literally get a barbell, put it underneath the rack. So what you push up, you're not going to go anywhere and then do 10 seconds of pushing up with high intensity

in that isometric position and do some sets there. And what you'll get is this strength gain in that position in about 15 degrees up and down from it. I would love that as E-press here. Yes. I would love that as E-press. Oh, yeah, it's a from it. I would love that as Z-Press here. Yes. I would love that as Z-Press. Oh, yes, that's a good idea. I would love to put a Z-Press here. Because you'll see, carry over into your bench exercise from the Z-Press also.

And when I get stuck or have somebody who gets stuck, we're right where you're talking about, sometimes too, if I can develop their core strength, because that's kind of what happens, right? When you're ready to give to that nose point, you'll start to feel the tendency of the back wanting to arch or to kind of lean back for leverage. And if you have a really stable, good, solid core and you've built some strength there, sometimes that will engage and that will help you kind of get through the rest of the lift. Z press is great.

I think that's money. That's perfect advice. Also to add to that, like just, I mean, I'm always voice in rotational movements, I think, you know, taking dumbbells or kettlebells through a rotational spiraling type of press will really help to you feel a lot more controlled, a lot more stabilized in the shoulder joint, which then tells the body everything is secure so we can actually apply a bit more force. So the part of the recruitment process is really being able to generate that force in those parts of the left where you feel like there's discrepancy. So to add things like that, to supplement, to really enhance the stability of the overall movement is going to help.

Okay, cool. All right. Thanks for calling in, Patty. Thank you guys. Love the show. Bye. Thank you. All right, I love getting feedback like Patty. Thank you guys. Love the show. Bye. Thank you. All right, I love getting feedback like that, you know, from somebody that she's doing well, just has a couple questions.

And that's, you know, exactly. If you follow one of our programs, first time around, follow it as it's laid out. As you, when you're done with it and you go back through the second time around, now you can start to modify because there are always individual variances. This is why a personal trainer is such an incredible investment because they could train just you and not anybody else. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I love the Z-Press for this. Like I can literally remember being stuck at that place with shoulder presses. And this was one of the things that I felt I broke through when I started to incorporate the Z-Press. And I also am somebody, now I don't corporate the Z-Press. And I also, I'm somebody, no, I don't know, we didn't get a chance to ask her on how much she trains core or not,

but I do have a tendency personally to neglect it. That forces you to do that. It forces you to really lock that in as you're pressing and doesn't allow you to cheat the rest. I think it was because yeah, a lot of times it is your cords, it's the lack of stabilization, especially when you're going for that last bit to lock out. Because I was going to point to the fact of the overhead carries. That's usually bringing it all the way up and overhead is usually a sticking point for a lot of

people to feel like they don't have stability there or in the rack position. There's a lot of loss of energy because just to get the kind of support and stability initially, you lose a lot of that if you don't have that right away, so your lift gets affected. Our next caller is RC from Texas. Hey, what's up RC? How can we help you? Hey there.

How are you doing guys? Real good. Great. Yeah. Well, I've just, I've been into fitness and you know, exercise for years, I've kind of changed the way I've gone about it over the years. I used to be a long distance runner, but now I thanks to you guys very into the strength training. I'm pretty new as a personal trainer. And I just got started as COVID kind of hit, which, you know, so going to, you know,

try to get a job at a gym wasn't quite an option. So I've been trying to figure out the online route, kind of a slow start. So I was just kind of curious what you guys would suggest as far as how to get started as a new trainer in today's environment. Okay, that's a great question. So we've said many times in the show before that we think one of the best places for trainers to start is in a big box gym. And there's a few there's a few reasons for that one. You're gonna get

presented a lot of opportunities. A lot of people you can talk to the hard part about building your business is kind of done for you. And a big box, you get clients, you get people working out that don't have trainers. And you can really gain a lot of experience there and probably even shadow trainers that have been there for a little while. I still think that's the best way for trainers to get started.

Now that gyms are reopening, I still think if you're new, get hired at a big box gym and work there for a year or two and see if you can become the top trainer at that facility before trying to go build your own business. Now simultaneously, I do still think it's important to build an online presence. I think that's just, that's the business card of today, you know, you need to have some kind of an online presence at the very least for potential clients to look you up and to read about you and to see what you're all about. But I still think you're gonna learn the most

and gain the best experience, the quickest by working with more people and being presented with more opportunities which you're gonna get in a big box, yeah. Yeah, that's tough. I totally agree. I do think it does take that hands-on approach and being able to be in an environment like that

where you can get more volume to really hone in on your craft. But I do highly suggest in the meantime, even before doing that, that you really put yourself out there with your friends and your family and you apply a lot of your methods and what you know to help and out people that are close to you and that can give you real feedback and critiques. So that way, you know, you can at least get the ball rolling momentum rolling in that direction.

So there's three things I would do. I agree with the guys. I would get a job at a big box gym. So the 24's, the UFC gyms, the ballies, types of those big, big box, it's gonna see a lot of workouts and take everything that you can. Don't be one of those trainers that's picky, take work as many hours as you possibly can, see as many faces as you can,

practice on free appointments as much as you possibly can. Then I would use my social media. Don't think about your social media right now as I'm going to try and grow it so I can get tons of followers and make that as a lead generator. Use it to service your current client base. So as you are talking to your clients and you're learning this, going through this process and they ask you a question because one of them has gout or one of them has diabetes. As you are learning and you're going through and you're like, oh, I don't know much about that.

So you go and you research information and you learn, share that on your Instagram or share that on your Facebook and start to use what you're talking to your clients with as another place that they can receive that content and what will naturally happen is you will attract more people that have those same conditions or issues

and you'll also provide an even better service to your current clientele. The third thing that I would do is absolutely join our Facebook group. Most of the people that are in there are personal trainers and professionals. So most all of them are our professionals, personal trainers, and certainly people going through the program or people that are aspiring to be one day, and the community is unreal. You could post a question about a client that you're currently dealing with, people do this all the time in there, and not even a half hour will go by before 10, 15 other trainers have posted their opinion on that, or helping you troubleshoot whatever you're going through,

or if you don't have many of the maps programs, I would invest in those as a skeleton for you to use and learn from how we've programmed in there. And then to put your own spin and flavor and when you're training somebody that has specific needs adapting it to them. And then again, using the forum to be able to modify things that we've already kind of laid the blueprints out for you. So those are the three things that if I had to start all over, didn't know anything going on,

I would use those three resources. Well, that sounds pretty cool. I do have several of your programs that I'm following aesthetic right now. And yeah, but I've heard about your forum, I just haven't been on it yet. I've heard you guys talk about it But that sounds very handy. All right. No problem. We're gonna give you access to the forum. Okay RC

Oh really that'd be cool. Yeah, you got it, man. I'll add you I'll put that to some good use. Thanks guys. Perfect. No problem. Yeah, make sure you say hi and tag us when you get in there I definitely will do that Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, the training space, the trainer space definitely has been challenged, but the market is still growing. If you look at the numbers, the market for trainers.

It's definitely the landscape is changing, but I totally agree with both of you. I don't know where you could get as much practice as you could in a big, and that's why it's even better than a private studio. I wouldn't go to a private studio, I wouldn't go to a small unknown gym. If you can't make it in a big box, you'll crash and burn in a private studio.

Yeah, and for the most part. And of course there's a trainer that maybe in the thick of all of it might sit there and try and tell you the pros and cons of one of the all, you know, private, they'll be more educated trainers and you make more money and you're specialized, but you're not going there for that. You're going there because this company before you built it up to be a hundred million or a billion dollar company and they did something right as far as their systems and their ability to attract tons of leads. There's a lot to learn from that and you're're nowhere else, you're going to get literally,

20 plus reps a day, potentially on people. Just dealing with all the variables. You know, like troubleshooting is such a vital process to personal training. I don't think people realize it's like detective work. You get somebody just coming in, well, what am I dealing with? And a lot of times they don't even know what to tell you.

So you have to learn the right questions and you have to really have experienced identify these. And the other mistake I see these new trainers making right now is that they all want to become the next enced famous person and trying to figure out what they're all doing to attract all these people to build a business. I would absolutely not even try to do that.

I would use it just like I said, as a tool to enhance your already current clients. So your current client, you're starting training right now, as you're having dialogue in that hour, you're training them, you guys remember, you're having conversation about what they're struggling with, and that is all your ideas for content. Then I'm gonna go home,

I'm gonna go deeper into learning more about what that person was talking about, how I could help, and I'm really to go home, I'm going to go deeper into learning more about what that person was talking about, how I could help. And I'm really speaking to them, but I'm going to speak in general on my social media. And I'm going to start to build it like that. And really, I'm not going to focus on, oh, did I get 10 more followers? It's hopefully this provided more value to the people I'm already helping. And that will naturally start to track other people that have those things in common.

That's right. Our next caller is Jess Lene from BC, Canada. Hi, Jess Lene, how can we help you? Hey, so my question is about Maps Estetics. I'm on Face3, and I absolutely love it. A little bit of history. I have spent thousands of dollars on personal trainers, weight classes, apps, different programs, you name it, I've probably done it. And nothing has worked for me like

aesthetic stuff. So my class... Sorry, that was so funny. Yeah. I love it much. Would I be able to do it, say, I don't know, as an example, if I want to do it for like three years, would I be able to do it continuously, just one right after another, and see results if I maybe just increased my weights every time I started the program again? Yeah, no, that's a great question. Number one, the reason why it works so well is because it's program because Adam's body is on it must be it. No, I appreciate that positive feedback. We designed every single maps program to theoretically be run essentially indefinitely right. They're all they're all phased. You could definitely run through Mapsesthetic over and over again, going through the different phases. However, if we're speaking in ideal terms, ideally, you'd be better off going through the

different Maps programs, because Mapsesthetic is very bodybuilder-focused. It would be great to go through Maps Strong, which is more functional strength or Maps Performance, which is more functional strength, or maps performance, which is more athletic minded. All the programs complement each other. And so you'll get overall better results if you go from program to program. That being said, you definitely could continue to run maps aesthetic back to back to back

and you should still see some good programs. We literally just talked on, I don't know if I talked off air, it was off air with Tano, or it was after we hung up with the person. And I was mentioning how I ran maps aesthetic for actually most of the time I was competing. So leading up to it, I used programming similar to how

Annabelle kids laid out, getting into shows. Once I started competing, maps aesthetic was really the foundation. Now, I manipulated it right So you know and there's nothing wrong with you exchanging some of the movements in there or changing an exercise, you know follow the form. I mean the real brilliance behind the programming is how it's laid out how it's phased and And yeah, that's really what's what's so powerful about it it. And we build the volume builders into the program.

But there's nothing wrong with you going like, oh, you know what, I haven't done a Z-Press ever and this time of going around, I'm gonna pull out the, you know, barbell press there and I'm gonna do a Z-Press there. Or, you know, you can take exercises and exchange them and you'll get a lot of benefit by doing a different exercise,

but laid out in the programming very similar. So if it's shoulders, you're doing a shoulder work if it's chest, benefit by doing a different exercise, but laid out in the programming very similar. So if it's shoulders, you're doing a shoulder work if it's chest, you're doing a chest exercise, but change them up. And then you also have the way we set up the focus session. So you'll notice that the focus session is really only take you about 20 or 30 minutes probably to complete.

Well, as I would get ready for each show, after every show, I would actually add more volume into the focus session. Since it was an area that I was trying to work on and I wanted to bring those muscles up, every time I ran the program again, I would add a couple sets to whatever muscles that I'm trying to develop on those focus days. And I eventually got to a place where it was five days a week,

I was lifting an hour every day. So it was, but I worked that in over time, of every time I ran it over. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I think too. A lot of times we recommend, we have our main three programs.

We have anabolic performance and aesthetic, and the reason why we're kind of taking people through those is because it has very specific attributes and adaptations that we're trying to teach the body through that process. And this is a long-term strategy. And so there's nothing wrong with finding one of the problems that really resonate with you.

And you get great results from it with repeating that quite frequently. But also keep in mind some of these other attributes like that you're gonna get in terms of fortifying your joints and doing movements that are outside of your comfort Some of these other attributes like that you're going to get in terms of like fortifying your joints and You know doing movements that are outside of your comfort that actually You know translate really well to then you know adding adding more Abilities going back into the program that you love so much so there's a lot of carryover between you know Those main three and then obviously you can get more intense with some of the other ones that we have

But those we always kind of tried it to steer people in that direction because it's a really good long-term stress. And there's a way that you can do what Justin's saying to and still cut. So I'm a map aesthetic. I'm obviously unbiased right to that programming because it's kind of how I like to train. So I do go back to that program more than anything else. And so what I'll do to Justin's point, because there is tremendous value and you moving away from that training for a little while,

is I'll actually take a month or a one or two phases at a strong and I'll run it and then I'll move back to aesthetic. Or then I'll take one or two phases at a performance and run it and then go back to aesthetic. So you doing that has a lot of value too. So if you really love one of the programs more than the other, I always recommend like going through the other ones so you see what's in them.

And there's a lot of value and you just kind of moving out of that modality and training a little bit different because like Justin said, there's gonna be a lot of carryover from the other ways of training for that program too. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, well, thank you for calling. Awesome. Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Well, thank you for calling.

Awesome. Thanks, guys. No problem. Yeah, you know, if you are following a MAPS program and you love it, there's nothing wrong with repeating it, but really when you go through the other ones, like Justin said, the long-term strategy, overall you'll just get better results. You have more balance, you'll have less injury, you'll feel better because you're training through different styles and modalities. Well, and the truth is, we say this on the show a lot.

It's been a while since we've said it, but I love to say that the best thing that you're doing, you should do is what you're not doing, right? So the best thing you can do for your body, whatever your goal is, is probably what you're not doing. If you've been doing something for a very long time or you've repeated that program, even though they're designed that you could do that, there's tremendous value in going away from that completely and then returning back to that.

And so, and a lot of times, we're all in this room guilty of this. We all kind of gravitate to our favorite, you know, back to the old thing that you love so much, right? And I know, damn well, that it's not ideal for me. I like doing it. And so there's this balance, right? Because you also should enjoy your training.

So I mean, that's part of it too. Like you want to be able to go to the gym. You don't want to do something that you hate just because it's novel, you know. It's like that's not a good idea either if you're not going to be consistent. But you also have to be self-aware enough to go like, okay, I always do these exercises.

But this is good for me. Yeah, I always do these exercises. This is good for me. Yeah, I always do these exercises, I always try this way because I like it. It feels good because I'm good at it. But you know what, going over here and doing those stupid matric lunges or adding the Z press in there, or doing these movements that I'm not very good at,

the truth is, gains will come on fast for that because you're not good at it. Completely. Look, if you love the podcast, you have to go check out mindpumpfree.com. We have a lot of written content and it's totally free. Lots of guides you can learn from. Again, it's mindpumpfree.com.

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