Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1556: Tricks to Kickstart Rear Delt Growth, How to Build Your Neck, Understanding Insulin Resistance & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND We answered some health and fitness questions, but the way we opened the episode is with an intro portion where we talk about current events, scientific studies, fun conversation, we mentioned our sponsors. Today's intro was 48 minutes long. After that, we got to the questions. Here's what went down in today's Mind Pump podcast. We opened up by talking about Bill Gates,

Starting point is 00:00:40 divorce, and some conspiracies around it. Was it because he was friends with- Let me hear your thoughts. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Then we talked about the woman making money on only fans by live streaming her birth. Who doesn't wanna see that? What the hell's going on here?

Starting point is 00:00:57 Then Justin, dry scoops, organifies pure. Now pure is a- Like a man. Pure is a neutroph is a neutral pick sold by Organified plant based it's got nutrients and compounds that help with cognition and gut health Normally you mix it in water, but Justin's pretty hardcore. Yeah, he threw it right in his face waters for whims It's a great. It's a great product go to Organifies website check it out and check out some of the rest of other stuff Go to organify that's or g aR-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward slash mine pump.

Starting point is 00:01:26 Use the code, mine pump, and get 20% off all of their products. Then we talked about tang, the old drink from back in the day. Don't be confused here. And oval team, that's another drink from back in the day. Then I brought up how Russia created a Poseidon Nuke. There's a blow up on the water.

Starting point is 00:01:46 Say radioactive tsunamis to people. Thanks, Russia. Yeah, we're excited about that. Then Justin talks about the diet that he's on. He's not copying Adam. That's not what he's doing. Forget that, I'm my own person. But he is gonna get ripped.

Starting point is 00:01:58 Then we talk about backyard houses in San Jose because they'll try anything except solve the actual problem of housing here. Let's start stacking people together. Then Adam talked about his workout because he looks good and his diet and that let us talk about butcher box. This is another company we work with. Now what they do is they send grass fed high quality meats to your door.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 Then I talked about sad vegans. There was a study that came out about vegans. Sorry guys. Single tier. That's right. Then we got to the, oh no, then we talked about Sesame Street, the documentary was on Amazon Prime about one of the favorite shows we were kids.

Starting point is 00:03:11 Then Justin brought up another show called Superhuman, The Invisible Made, Visible. Another great show on Amazon Prime. Then we got to the questions, here's the first one. This person wants to know how to develop their rear delts. They work them out twice a week, but they're not developing, so we give some tips there. Second question, this person wants to know how to develop their rear delts. They work them out twice a week, but they're not developing. So we give some tips there. Second question, this person says, how would you incorporate neck training into

Starting point is 00:03:32 a routine? The third question, this person wanted us to explain insulin resistance, the fourth question, the last question, this person wants to know if pain tolerance improves along with strength training. Also, all month long, we're running a huge promotion on maps aesthetic, we're putting it 50% off, and on our extreme fitness bundle, which is multiple workout programs, discounted twice. That one's also 50% off.

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Starting point is 00:04:40 Then the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpMedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address. And we'll get that shirt right out to you. Thanks everybody. Hey, did you guys ever have a friend that, you know, okay, your friends with, but just because they're, they're so nefarious or what's the word? There's such douches or whatever, that simply hanging out with them is something that your girlfriend or wife is like,

Starting point is 00:05:10 no, I don't care what you do. I don't care if you go to, you know, breakfast. I don't want you around that guy. Have you ever had a friend like that? Well, yeah. I don't know if I label him as a douche because of that. I think that he's my infamous.

Starting point is 00:05:22 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that you're searching for the word, but I mean, you're friend, right? So you're gonna call him a douche. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're searching for the word, but I mean, you're friend, right? So you're gonna call them a douche. You know what I mean? It's problematic. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like that one friend that your girl is like, listen, trouble. Yeah, like she knows.

Starting point is 00:05:34 Like I don't care what you do. I don't even, you can't even, you know, drive them to the airport. I don't even around this person. Right? You know what I'm talking about? He's the one I always used to use as an excuse of like, oh, well, you know know Joe made me do it. Yeah exactly like he's that guy.

Starting point is 00:05:47 You know who's like that? The worst in the world? Who? Epstein. So you hang out with Epstein. Whoa. Whoa. You get to hear about him.

Starting point is 00:05:54 He set me up for this. So you guys see what happened with the Bill Gates thing? I did. Dude there's like, there's a couple conspiracies floating around and I think I brought it up a little bit, but I didn't realize like there's actually something that is interesting, I want you guys to speculate on, just a little bit, right?

Starting point is 00:06:08 So I love succulents. Apparently, you know, they had actually planned on, well, Melinda is her name, right? Melinda Gates had planned with a lawyer to go through with a divorce in 2019, based off of like his relationship with Epstein and was uncomfortable with it, didn't like that old thing. He apparently was on his private plane.

Starting point is 00:06:30 Okay, yeah, okay. His island. Okay, this is 2019. Also Jeff Bezos filed for divorce 2019. That whole thing went down. Obviously we knew like his picture, dick pics and all that got leaked. Kinda led in that direction.

Starting point is 00:06:43 So that one wasn't like as, you know, spicy. He also hung out with Epstein. He also hung out with Epstein. So you have that. I feel like this is the sixth degree from Kevin Bacon. It's almost impossible. So I'm wondering if anybody in here knows about any kind of a loophole in terms of being able to liquidate stock by getting a divorce and how that works in terms of being able to liquidate stock by getting a divorce and how that works

Starting point is 00:07:06 in terms of being able to acquire that and turn that into cash without causing any kind of hysteria in the market where it drops all of a sudden. Now everybody's like, oh, what's happening? All this stock is, you know, he's taking it out versus just getting a divorce kind of diffuses that. Interesting. So for example, I'm gonna paint a story. getting a divorce kind of diffuses that interesting. So let's so for example I'm gonna paint a story you tell me if this we talk about let's say I am a politician or I own a company or I work with a company

Starting point is 00:07:33 I just pretend I hear Bill Gates and I know Okay, that's pretend. Yeah, just hypothetically. Yeah, I'm Bill Gates. Yeah, hang And I know Computers. Yeah, I know that there's gonna be some bad news coming out about a company that I tied to and I've got let's say I don't know 50 million dollars tied up there, but I know that the news is gonna come out, you know, next year It's gonna tank my shit and if I sell it all and then the news comes out SEC is gonna be you know up my ass, right? So getting a divorce getting a divorce is a way to look, we liquidated it because we had to split it

Starting point is 00:08:06 and this will be agreed to do. Is that what you're saying? That's what I'm saying. Did he do that? Well, it looks like that. Oh, well, company. What company was about to tank or what, give me, yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, no, they're speculating this in terms of like, like what happened with the pandemic and everything else and like being able to kind of like prepare, you know, their assets and gain and acquire assets before everything, market crash. Interesting. Yeah. But I mean, divorce is expensive.

Starting point is 00:08:34 So you know, I mean, must be a big win because. And also, like how much of us, do we know how much he's, his stock that he sold off then for this? Do we know? Do we have any idea how much was liquid? It was a hefty amount. I'd have to have Doug pull that up. Yeah, Doug, find out how much was liquidated. I didn't even, I didn't know that's what happened. And what stock was coming from? I just thought you just like,

Starting point is 00:08:52 I think it's Microsoft. Oh, really? Is it not? I don't know. Yeah. Well, I mean, that would be my guess. Interesting. Well, the part that's real is that she definitely, this is, this was mainstream news. Melinda had issues with his relationship with Epstein voiced it. And in fact, this was something that she talked to a divorce lawyer apparently about when it happened.

Starting point is 00:09:14 So, now the speculation is that this is the main driver behind their divorce. Well, and everybody was, and this is where I didn't want to go to conspiratorial because everybody's already been hammering him because he's such a vocal proponent of the vaccines. And like, why was he at the forefront of all this, like, immediately, you know, like, he has already had all the systems in place to basically, you know, sell his vaccine. Well, that, that part doesn't necessarily, because he's always kind of been, like, he's

Starting point is 00:09:43 been preaching that for a long time. For a long time, yeah, that, that part doesn't necessarily, because he's always kind of been, he's been preaching that for a long time. For a long time. Yeah. That part doesn't, but the part that is weird is that he did have a relationship with Epstein. He said he just talked to him one time because he's looking for investors, but they're saying he was on his plane and whatever. And you, who else was on Epstein's plane? A lot.

Starting point is 00:10:00 Bill Clinton. Oh, we know. We talked about this. Oh, yeah. We seen the records. Like a ton. They're the public. I mean, oh. Oh, we know. We talked about this. We seen the records. Like a ton. They're the public. I mean, oh, dude, he had a...

Starting point is 00:10:09 And Bill isn't exactly known for being... That's old, me, so I'm not... He's not the most faithful guy in the world. Yeah, he had a picture of him in his place. Come on. You got to be pretty close. I mean, imagine, we're pretty close. Wait, I don't have the painting of one of you fuckers in my house.

Starting point is 00:10:24 You did, that'd be weird. It would be dressed in a... Yeah, imagine, we're pretty close. I don't have the painting of one of you fuckers in my house. You did, that'd be weird. It would be dressed in a heel. Yeah, imagine if someone found that, that'd be like, whoa. Hey, what is that? That is such a power move to have, what are your friends on the wall and dress in high heels? Imagine if you went over to Adam's house,

Starting point is 00:10:37 and you go to the bathroom and there's a painting of you, but like wearing a dress or something. I'm gonna do this. Just this blackmail. What is it? I'm like, for a release this, you guys. I like you, but like wearing a dress or something. I'm gonna do this. Yeah, just this blackmail. But it is, but it really, I'm like, for a release this, you guys. I, I like you, but we have to fight. No, this is a very weird thing that's going on.

Starting point is 00:10:52 That is weird, and you know, it is sad because it's such a visible thing because there's celebrities and whatever. But I mean, they were married for so long, it is strange to get divorced after being married for so long. Yeah, that's, it's way rare, right? Don't divorce this typically happen when people are like in the beginning of their marriage,

Starting point is 00:11:09 you know, that's what the statistics are, right? I don't know, I don't know what that, what that, I think it spikes again after the kids are out of college and stuff too though, right? I think that is another thing. Actually, you're right, you're right because people stay together and then when the kids leave, they're like, all right, now we don't have to be together anymore. That's true. Speaking of weird stuff, did you see the, I don't know the name of the girl, but she is doing,

Starting point is 00:11:29 she's on OnlyFans. Oh. And is selling her a video of her live birth. Is that right? You might get better. I'm gonna pull it up right now, dude. Yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 00:11:40 So this is a demand for this. Yeah, I'm gonna pull this up. So only star, only. So only fan stars, excuse me, plans to livestream birth for $12,000 and has offers to sell her breast milk. Oh my God. What in the hell? She's the only fan's mom from the UK.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Her parents are so proud. Oh boy. Okay, is it 12,000 a person to come in and watch? I have no idea. It's this Carla Balucci is her name. So it's a 39 year old mom to be, I mean, Doug, I'll send you this link here. So you can pull it up,

Starting point is 00:12:10 because we gotta take a look at it and see what she looks like, because that's a lot of money to watch someone do. Yeah, something like that. I'm texting it to you right now. Yeah, what I wanna know, the kind of dudes that are excited about that. Yeah, so Carla Balucci, 39 year old mom to be,

Starting point is 00:12:23 recently decided to cash in on her growing baby bump through fetishes So people with fetishes with this on only fans. Okay, like you know, I get the whole like fetish stuff But but like the live birth part of it. Where does that come from bro? If I don't know like pregnant ladies, you know, I get that you know There's no appeal. Yeah, I mean, she's attractive. Yeah. Okay, I don't, okay, it says 412,000. Is it 12,000 per viewer? Is that, because that could be a lot of money

Starting point is 00:12:51 this chick's gonna make. I don't know, wow. I mean, maybe. Yeah. I assume, right? Dude, that's weird, bro. That's your thing. You're into like women having babies.

Starting point is 00:13:00 Great, what are you doing? Click on her Instagram and tell me what are you doing, bro? Oh, me, click on these people. Click her Instagram and tell me. What are you doing, bro? How many people are out there? Click her Instagram and tell me how many followers she has. I don't know who this is. Like I don't know her. 117,000. Oh, that's it.

Starting point is 00:13:13 Okay, so that's it. Like that's still not as, I thought she'd be someone like. Well bro, you only need, okay, this is the, I guess the beauty and the bad about the internet is if you want to find people that are into, I don't know, smelling your feet or something like that, you'll find them on the internet, like it exists. That's why I'm telling you guys, like our fallback is that, right? So if this doesn't work out, Justin's just slap you with stakes.

Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, Justin's really into that. Balloon porn or something like that, folding up balloons? That's something, I bet you that's something. I'm sure it is, too. I bet you things that people are into that. Balloon porn or something like that. Folding up balloons. That's something, I bet you that's something. I'm sure it is too. I bet you things people are like. Cloud porn, it's weird. It's weird. That is weird.

Starting point is 00:13:51 She's pretty though, she's a pretty woman. Yeah. And I mean, look, pregnant, I found my wife extremely beautiful when she was pregnant, but it wasn't necessarily because- She was your wife, it's different. But it wasn't like a fetish, it was more like, she's a mom and she's, you know,'s so that was that's always a you know for me

Starting point is 00:14:06 That's a good thing. You know, I don't know. I'd yeah Opinions that I'll keep the mic. Hey, so you did you dry scoop that that pure there? I mean I can are you gonna do that like Who was talking about this? Was it in the comment section or like because we brought this up? Yeah, somebody's like oh, like hold on have you ever brought this up? Yeah, somebody's like, oh, like, oh, it's a hard core. Hold on, have you ever dry scooped a powder? Yeah, dude, you have. Oh, yeah, well, if you choke right now and blow out powder

Starting point is 00:14:31 probably the time. You guys probably know how, but, yeah. Okay, don't breathe. Oh, God. Don't sneeze. Dude, oh, oh, oh. Oh, God. No, I like the idea that will appear with a rock star.

Starting point is 00:14:46 That sounds like it. That sounds like a good time. Yeah, no, I mean, you used to, but you know what? Like, let's give it a little kick. So, okay, now that's the first time that Organifi has sent us the... Yeah, so instead of the individual packets, it comes in a little bit.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Did they always have that? I didn't know they had that for a pure. I think it's brand new. I was gonna say, I don't think they had that before. It tastes good though, doesn't it? It's good, yeah, it's not even like a bad thing. Yeah, you're not tough for doing that. No, well, I mean I used to try It's very tang-esque Right, don't you think can I take a tank? Never tank? Yeah, I was bad

Starting point is 00:15:16 I wonder how many people watching I know it's a thing you're talking about Poon Tang. Yeah, Tang was a drink an orange drink that actually Did you know they sent that up to them? Was it the moon or up into space? Yeah, it was a first the astronauts had it This was like so back in the day they would sell Tang as like a health drink. Did you guys know this? Look up Doug look up Tang if it exists. Let's look at the ingredients I'm sure it still exists. No, it's an or it's like an orange powdery drink. It was so good You mix it in water. It's like a crappy version of Sun-E-D. Yeah, and they would sell it as like this health thing.

Starting point is 00:15:48 It's basically cool. Yeah, it is. Look at me. So go ahead, still make it. It's astronaut cool. What's the ingredients, Doc? I'm trying to find that. It's hard to see.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Well, of course, the first ingredient is sugar, then fructose. Okay, more sugar. You can use a trick acid. Okay. I'm trying to read this label, it's kind of on an angle here. I think the rest is just a bunch of other stuff,

Starting point is 00:16:12 or gum and other things. It's just a tasty orange colored drink. But they advertise it as like this healthy thing, like vitamin Z, tang. It's all about the astronauts too, they were selling it because the astronauts that supposedly were drinking tang. Is it exclusive to Walmart?

Starting point is 00:16:27 Is that what it is? They just have it, maybe they own the brand now? No, I don't think so. Speaking of Walmart, I saw a funny clip of Shikil O'Neil. I didn't know this story. I thought that was interesting. He holds the daily record for the most money spent at Walmart in a day.

Starting point is 00:16:42 No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He spent $70,000. That's how they'd buy for me. At Walmart, it's a lot of shit. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He spent $70,000. That held you to buy for? Holy moly. At Walmart's a lot of shit. While he tells the story, I believe it was when he went to Miami, he was traded to another team.

Starting point is 00:16:55 He goes there, he has a house, but nothing was set up. So he had nothing. So he literally in one night, he said it was like at two o'clock in the morning or some crazy, it was like really late at night and went there and just TV, too, I mean, everything you could think of that you would want it for TVs, laptops, computers.

Starting point is 00:17:13 I mean, he needed all the stuff for the kitchen, he needed everything for the bathrooms, like all in one shot, setting up. You such a philanthroper too, right? He is, he does so many cool things that nobody knows about. Yeah, do you know that he does that? That's something really cool about Shaq. They're like, I think he says every day he does like a deed like that where he finds a random

Starting point is 00:17:29 person and like just like gives money to him. And he doesn't talk up like, he was only, only did I know about this because somebody asked about this and he doesn't post it on his social. He doesn't promote it. He just does, it's something that he's done for. Well, he was just at the Jonas Brothers. Like, he saw that. Did you see that? Yeah, he was in the crowd. Brothers. Like, he saw that. Did you see that, or he was in the crowd.

Starting point is 00:17:46 And he's like, yeah, he's like a real fan. Now, I don't know a ton about basketball, but wasn't he the one of the first guys that kind of ushered in the era of like the big muscular, strong kind of basketball player? Was that kind of, was he, I know he was a part of that, right? He was being like this, this huge center that was just dominating.

Starting point is 00:18:03 Because it wasn't there like an, a period of time when basketball players changed to him. He was a seven foot, this huge center that was just dominating. Because it wasn't there like an a period of time when basketball players changed. He was a seven foot, almost 300 pound. Yeah, he was a movable, you know, you're not going to, yeah. There, I mean, before him, there was nobody of that size and weight that could play basketball. I mean, there, he was the, all the tall guys were really skinny. Yeah, exactly. If you look, go back and look at the basketball history, like anybody that was, you know, seven foot range, they were lanky, right? Really, really lean, right? Where he was like the first Dr. J, like beefy and first, someone of that size. I mean, he's obviously, he's been teased

Starting point is 00:18:36 forever in his career, but I mean, his footwork at that size is unbelievable. I mean, to watch, normally when you watch like a, a, a center and like a center and playing basketball, they're like in slow motion when you compare them to a guard. And Shaq's footwork and speed for his size is incredible. Now, he looks slow to us when you compare him to all the other pros that he's playing, but if he were to get in playing. Well, when you're that big, he dominated in the paint.

Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, so him and what's his name? What's the other guy told me? No, no, no, no. What's that show that he's on that you showed us? Yeah, Charles Barkley. Him and Barthly are such great chemistry. I love that. What a grazing chemistry.

Starting point is 00:19:14 What a great duo. I mean, they're they they mess with each other that laugh. You can tell that they obviously have respect for them. They want so many Emmys for that show. It's so good. Yeah, what now, what did you pull up? It was like a highlight clip of that show. Yeah, so I love, I mean, I honestly, when I look at content to try and emulate

Starting point is 00:19:30 or what I would like us the vibe to feel like, very similar, obviously they're in basketball, we're in fitness, but the dynamic between, you know, Ernie and Kenny and Shaq and Charles is, I feel similar to ours. The only difference between us and there, I mean, there's a lot of differences, but, I'm comparing myself to a very similar one.

Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah, maybe you can't even tell the difference. I mean, next to Shaq, it's like, I'm a little less black. We look dominating after each other. No, I could fit in this pocket. I mean, our stuff is, you know, we don't have anything scripted, we don't have the content that we prepare as normally. One of us brings the content where the difference is

Starting point is 00:20:11 Ernie actually really is the mastermind behind that. Like he, and they just riff off of his stuff. Yeah, so he really, he steers that whole thing. And a lot of people, unless you've seen like Ernie's documentary on ESPN, you may not know that. That you're just like, man, they're just so unbelievable. The dynamic between them, the conversation, the way it flows. But Ernie really has a huge, he has thought out the entire show as all these notes. And then he kind of like, he throws the crumbs out there and lets them kind of

Starting point is 00:20:42 battle and talk shit, have fun. and then if they start to trail off you Reinsamon yeah, you'll see he reigns them in or he'll direct the conversation over to Kenny to kind of get it to another subject like it's really brilliant When you look at it, but it didn't feel that way but it wouldn't work without their chemistry you know, of course Yeah, that's that's what makes it fun to watch is when you see a group and they have really good, you know I mean chemistry is I feel like it's a word that we use because we don't know how to define, you know, like, let's just chemistry, right? But I don't know what other word to use. Well, you call it the X-Factor, I said you like to be honest. Yeah, I call it Justin the X-Factor.

Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, you're the guy. Yeah, annoying me. I got my own symbols. You know how annoying we'd be without Justin Adam? Well, yeah, we would be a lot less light that's what I'm sure. Oh my God, yeah. There'd be, there'd be some serious haters.

Starting point is 00:21:23 We've education. I did, we did that one. The last episode we did at the beginning, this was on YouTube. So on our YouTube channel, we often give away, like, you know, every episode, right? And so what I said in the beginning was, hey, leave us a comment and tell us who your favorite

Starting point is 00:21:37 host is, right? It totally unprepared for everyone to say Justin. It was not the case, bro. It was plenty of sound in there now. 90%. I think people felt bad after seeing all the Justin, bro. It was plenty of sound in there now. 90%. I think people felt bad after seeing all the Justin's way. Yeah, I'm like, oh, yeah. Let's throw him a crumb.

Starting point is 00:21:50 We like the extra. That's a couple gay guys that said me. That's about all I had. Well, I mean, you are a desirable. You are a, what I call, Tasty is what I think I've heard. A snack? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:00 A big snack. Delicious. You're not a little snack. You're not like that. One of those descriptors. You know, speaking of snacks and we talked about tango earlier, I can't get this out of my head. Do you guys know?

Starting point is 00:22:10 No. Wow, great transition. Yeah, there you go. Do you guys know one of the first nutritional drinks that was sold to the mainstream? Slim fast? No. No, that's a diet drink, but yeah, that's a good one.

Starting point is 00:22:22 That one's been around for a while. Nutritional drink? Yeah, this is good for you. Drink it, give it to your kids, but yeah, that's a good one. That one's been around for a while nutritional drink. Yeah, like it's this is good for you drink It give it to your kids got nutrients and whatever probably high-sea or some show of all team. Oh I knew that You guys remember that. Yeah, do they even make that anymore? They do I think what the hell is oval team? I mean, they decided like nestly quick came right after that. Oh, that's they weren't even pretend Yeah, but they weren't pretending to be healthy. They're just like, yeah, we're gonna add more.

Starting point is 00:22:46 I used to be sugar. I liked, I was one of the few kids at like strawberry Nestle. I don't like the chocolate. Give me the strawberry one. Yeah, and all my friends are like kids. They're like, what's wrong with you? But all the team was weird, bro. It was like, what is it?

Starting point is 00:22:57 It's like malt, something drink. Chocolate malt. It's like a milkshake. But what's it made with chocolate milk? Yeah, it does. It's not made with chocolate milk. So maybe cocoa or something? I imagine it's cocoa. It's derived from that. It's made with like. But what's a made chocolate milk? Yeah, it's amazing. It's not made with chocolate milk. Is it made with cocoa or something? I imagine it's cocoa.

Starting point is 00:23:05 It's derived from that. It's made with, like, what's malt? I mean, this is Doug's generation. Yeah. He should be the one I know. Doug got the Dakota ring when he was a kid. So he had the free, you know, oval team. It's like the same substance they put in those woppers.

Starting point is 00:23:17 They're those candies. Like, malted milk balls. Is that what that is? Yeah, it's malt. It comes from wheat, I believe. The oval team does? Yes, wheat. So you're just drinking gluten. Yeah, I believe. The whole team does. Yes, wheat. So you're just drinking gluten.

Starting point is 00:23:26 Yes, you're just drinking gluten. I'll look it up. Maybe barley. It could be barley. Let me double-tank. Which is also pack full, I think, pack full of gluten. See, when I was a kid, that was the first supplement that I took.

Starting point is 00:23:37 I saw a whole team. Yeah, because I saw, I've always been a fanatic. I'm like, I love this. She'd take her pills with it, and everything. Yeah, so I was as a kid, I remember, you know, I was young. I'm talking about like 10, right? And I'm already thinking like, what can I take to get jacked? 10 years old.

Starting point is 00:23:50 This one I was eating spinach because of Popeye or whatever. Wow. So I got the low down on this when you're ready. Yeah, tell us, go ahead. So malt is germinated cereal grain that has been dried in a process known as maltene. The grain is made to germinate by soaking in water and is then halted from germinating further

Starting point is 00:24:08 by drying with hot air. Various cereals are malted, though barley is the most common. Wow. And what a great marketing. This is good for you, really? Yeah, not really. But when I was a kid, again, I remember I saw,

Starting point is 00:24:22 what was I saw something, I was an old TV show, and the kid was drinking oval tain and he's like, oh, it's good, you know, it makes you strong or whatever vitamin so I'm like, mom, I want oval tain. Yeah, please. And I would take it every morning, it's 10 years old. Really? Yes, dude, I'd go downstairs and I'd mix up my own thinking,

Starting point is 00:24:39 this is my first supplement, and I'm taking it like this. I drank two gallons of milk a week. Like that was my thing. Really? Yeah, I was really into drinking milk. And I'm sure you have no dairy I drank two gallons of milk a week. Like that was my thing. Really? Yeah, I was really into drinking milk. And I'm sure you have no dairy in total. No, none at all. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:50 By body and wholeheartedly that, you know, the milk does a body good. Is a pasty poop is not a result of a dairy in-tolerant. Listen, you guys. You can essential. You can build a central Nutrient you know in my diet. You could build a hut with Justin's poop What's that stuff called a dope this it's like a doby right you can like build it a doby

Starting point is 00:25:15 Well, why would you build here and the wilderness Justin? Thanks milk. Yeah, it's my Boop. Yeah, anyway, I'm gonna take a crazy left turn here and tell you about something terrifying. That's right, just say no. Oh, this is wrong. If you're watching this way, I give a take of right turn here. Hold on, let me do the thing.

Starting point is 00:25:31 But it was following you. Oh, he did that. Oh, he did that. Okay, remember that when you were a kid? Yeah, did you yell? Anyway, did you know the Russians, ready for this? Damn, Russians, man. They developed a tsunami nuke.

Starting point is 00:25:43 Have you heard of this? The called Poseidon. No. this? They called Poseidon. No. So they named it Poseidon. This is what it does. It literally cruises along the bottom of the ocean. So it just like blows up right before land. And then it just causes like a tsunami wave.

Starting point is 00:25:57 Massive tsunamis to annihilate, with radioactive water to annihilate coastal towns. You know this is how Godzilla really is little bit of brilliance in that. Like it is. I'd be pretty Godzilla. What the fuck? I feel like Russia sometimes, the, by the way, you know the Soviet Union had

Starting point is 00:26:14 by far the biggest nuke of all time. I think it was called the Tsar Bomba, T-S-A-R-B-O-M-B-A, which was something like thousands of times or more powerful. Sa-a-ra-ra-ra-ra-sa-bomba. Then, then Hiroshima. which was something like thousands of times or more powerful than Hiroshima. So I feel like Russia's strategy is like, here's a deal, if you attack us, we'll kill everyone.

Starting point is 00:26:33 Which is pretty effective strategy because nobody wants a fucking guy. We want the biggest bomb. Yeah, you're not gonna mess with the guy that's like, I mean, you can fight me, but then we're all gonna die. So is that as to, I've heard people say that we have nukes that could blow up the world seven times over. Yeah, not single nukes, but sorry,

Starting point is 00:26:49 not single nukes, but rather collectively. Collectively, we have so many nukes that we could totally annihilate the earth many, many times over. But not a single nuked that could blow up the earth over seven. I don't think anybody's made it. Haven't you heard that before?

Starting point is 00:27:01 Haven't you heard that statement before someone said, oh yeah, you could blow up the earth seven times with the amount of nke so we have, but it's collectively not a single one. Not a single one. I don't know what the value would be in something like this. Are we still testing these things in the ocean? That was always like mind boggling to me.

Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, it was like bikini beacher or bikini island or whatever. The bikini of tolls. Yeah, so I mean, we just tested so many nuclear weapons and hydrogen bombs out there and it's like dude like that stays in the environment forever So I was when I was a kid I was fascinated by nuclear weapons I thought they were so interesting and I would watch you know I'll try and find pictures or whatever and now they have They've released all these testing videos that were classified so you can actually go on YouTube and pull up

Starting point is 00:27:46 videos that hadn't were classified before of nuclear explosions. And it's, I mean, it's fascinating, but it's terrifying. Like, it looks like, I don't even know. Especially watching in slow motion. Like they have some clips like that now that you can watch, you know, how that cloud forms and then just engulfs everything.

Starting point is 00:28:03 And you know what the strategy is with these things, I don't get an all nerdy on this, but the strategy they figured out early on wasn't to land a nuke on land to blow up. It was to have it detonate a couple thousand feet from the ground because it causes more damage. That's crazy. Spreads out for you.

Starting point is 00:28:20 That's scary stuff, dude. Yeah, a little terrifying. Justin, I heard you're, are you starting the adenovore diet? Is that what I heard? Adam and the, dude. Yeah, a little terrifying. Justin, I heard you're are you starting the addon of or diet? Is that what I heard? Adam and the more I am I don't exactly know what it is, but Try to mimic it We're eating meat. Where you eat whatever Adam gives you? Just feeds me just like it's what do I want?

Starting point is 00:28:40 No, I heard you talking to the life about what you were wanting for dinner and stuff like that It sounds like you're you're back to the all meat thing or a lot. Yeah, I was I was sort of waiting that out, but I I wanted to get back on the shred. Well, I didn't that's why I wasn't gonna you know bring it up. Yeah, you know, I was doing my own version. So, you know, the I don't know he's doing the Justin Vore. Yeah, but you know what that means at him. Yeah, it actually sticks to it.

Starting point is 00:29:02 That's what it means for it. It's in sticks to the toilet Now what's the motivation is it cuz we're gonna why yeah, there's that and it's just like again Like I mentioned things and when I mentioned things I follow through with things Yeah, you're gonna see now Yeah, that's how we put it on air dude you better When you guys go to Hawaii July June yeah whenever your vacation was we planned around that. Oh

Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah July, yeah, it's like the second week of July. It's gonna be fun man. It'll be fun to hang out Damn you're gonna get shredded. I can't hang out there shredded just like you're not But that's what I'm saying and then you get shredded not forget about it. It's like I'm out of here It's stupid you messed up. Yeah, I don't like that. You showed your cards to your own. I'm motivated. They don't even know. Any nerves at all around the six and a half hour flight with the little one or one.

Starting point is 00:29:52 Now, yes, because when I flew to Vegas for an hour, that was a little bit of a, like, okay, there was a few nightmare situations. Oh boy. So six and a half hours, yeah, that might be rough, because you got to feed the baby, you got to do all of a sudden, He's probably going to poop at some point. Yeah, imagine that.

Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I had a rough one when I brought Mike, my son, like to Hawaii, was, I had to walk up and down the aisles the whole time. It was the air pressure and like he already had kind of a cold and so it was miserable, but I don't think that's going to happen. I hope not, man. That's just going to put that out there. You know, that's one of the things that bothers Max more than he else is the air pressure on pressure on his ears and so when we go just go into Tahoe the climbing the elevation to go to Tovam get on the boob. Well, no, we're driving right so what we do is have we feed him something or give it like he's chewing

Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, the chewing will help it a little bit or if we're lucky we can time it to where he falls asleep for that time that period of the Transition and it helps but if he he's awake when we go through, like when we start climbing to 5,000 or so. Yeah, because what we did with the baby is we just, you just go on Jessica's boo because obviously that motion, you know, whatever. And then I'm like, honey, my ears are fucked. I need to help.

Starting point is 00:30:57 I need to help. Here's the other one. You need to help. There's another one there. I'm like, my back, my ears hurt. Husband on one and then a child on the other. Wow. The patty is back.

Starting point is 00:31:09 She's like, what are you talking about? We're at home right now. I don't know, but I feel like the pressure changed. I feel like that would be a funny clip though to catch everybody's reactions on the play and they have you were doing that. No. I got a creep.

Starting point is 00:31:18 No. Would you like a beverage, sir? I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. What a weirdo. No, that's not cool. Hey, did you guys see this thing

Starting point is 00:31:26 that they might be doing in San Jose where it's like a pilot program where they're going to, I guess they're gonna offer these 0% loans so that they're giving people money with no interest to build homes in their backyard. Oh, I did hear about that. What?

Starting point is 00:31:43 No. Well, first, is it like a lottery? So there's only so many they're choosing. Yeah, it's 20 to 30. So it's a pilot program. We'll see how well it works. And the idea is, so here's a deal in the Bay Area. We have a shortage of homes and a high demand. So that's why the property is so insanely ridiculously expensive here, like a track home in San Jose, which by the way, San Jose is not like this super great area. It's just like whatever normal place. Track home will cost you one and a half to $2 million,

Starting point is 00:32:11 like no problem. So I guess part of the idea is to increase the, the availability of homes and stuff and by building them in backyards, I guess. So, and this is a pilot program. Yeah. So now you brought up to me, we talked a little bit about it this off air, that you're like, this is gonna fail miserably because,

Starting point is 00:32:30 how pissed are you if you're a neighbor? Oh my God. To this person who builds in back yard. But my argument was, I imagine they do this somewhere like on East Side, where there's already like 30 people living in one track home house as it is. I mean, maybe, but you know, that's already, already one of the problems is,

Starting point is 00:32:44 is that if they want to build housing, there's so one of the problems is is that if they wanna build housing, there's so many regulations and things that prevent. Yeah, why don't they just open other areas that they can develop? I don't understand what they are like in San Jose. Dude, I mean, you drive in these like, po-dunk areas, why not just start developing po-dunk areas?

Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, and also, and also here's a deal, when they try to build high-density housing, if you, so here's a deal, if you to build high density housing if you so here's a deal If you own a house in the Bay Area You don't want the value of your house to go down and you don't want your neighborhood to change it all So it's in your best interest to prevent Any kind of building you see what I'm saying because it'll just lower your property value or maybe your neighborhood Theoretically yes, but when there's still more people trying to move in, I mean, that's

Starting point is 00:33:26 the argument that any realtor tries to make in the Bay Area, even though it makes no sense investing-wise, like, I've told you guys before, because it's like, you can't rent it for what you're paying more, which wise, the argument back that a realtor would say over here is that, well, the thing is that there's no more to develop anymore, and so there's more people trying to move in than move out. And so because of that, you'll always see these prices continue to rise. So yeah, I don't know if doing that would technically would drop the value of the houses. It's got to move a lot of the density into like central valley. You know, like move, move the whole like tech companies to kind of like

Starting point is 00:34:02 skirt over there a little bit. Well, I mean, it's a real problem. It is a real problem. The rent, the housing is just absolutely insane. Didn't California, I thought I just saw this on, I don't know, who's Instagram page who posted about just posted, I don't get a fact check me, Doug, that this is the first time ever that California had more people leave than come in. This, this last year. Yeah, we're definitely glad.

Starting point is 00:34:23 That's the first time that's ever happened, right? I mean, I don't know if it's the first time, but in a while, is it true that we lost the seat because of that? Or we may be losing the seat and then like Texas or whoever else is like gaining a seat? Yeah, because we're losing so many people. And, and in this, I'm sure this is not connected

Starting point is 00:34:39 to our governor potentially getting recalled, right? We'll see, but he's giving out free money. He's giving out free money to everybody. So we had a surplus of tax. First time in over a hundred years. Yeah, I guess you're right. You're like 600 bucks. Wow.

Starting point is 00:34:52 But we had a surplus of tax revenue. So now he's like, hey, we're gonna give away free money to people and we're gonna give tax breaks to small businesses and all this stuff. We're gonna lift the mask mandate. Dude, I'm gonna magically at this date because it's all gonna be totally different than that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:08 You gotta love it when politicians start to worry in the name of the house. Free pizzas on Wednesdays for everybody, you know. Thanks. You ever want your politicians to do stuff that you, I guess that makes people happy, just, you know, threaten to get them out of office and they say, that's it, man.

Starting point is 00:35:21 Yeah. They start to act and flex on them a bit. And take care, yeah. Speaking of flexing, Adam, you're looking pretty jacked. Oh, thank you. That's, man. Yeah. They start to act and flex on them a bit. And take care. Yeah. Speaking of flexing, Adam, you're looking pretty jacked. Oh, thank you. I thought, I thought, I know your weight's not going up though, right? You're getting leaner.

Starting point is 00:35:31 No, I'm going down. Yeah, I'm going down right now. Is that weird? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's all, I figured that out. I think I shared this before on the podcast. The first time, because I was on a permanent bulk for like the first,

Starting point is 00:35:40 you know, 15 years of my weightlifting career. And then the first time that I transitioned to like leaning out, oh, this is the first, you know, 15 years of my weightlifting career. And then the first time that I transitioned to, like, leaning out, oh, this is the first time where my body fat percentage is, you know, in the higher teens, I'm gonna go down. And I'll never forget, hearing more compliments about me looking bigger when I was going down. It's so funny, because, you know, my insecurity was being the skinny. I get, telling me that I was skinny, or, like, that's,

Starting point is 00:36:04 would be like the worst thing you could say. I just hate that too when people, instead of saying lean. Yeah, oh, you look like you had skinnier. Yeah, they're like trying to be complimentary about it. Right, you're just like, or you lost weight. You lost a bunch of ways.

Starting point is 00:36:16 Like, no, that's not what I was trying to do. So, but I do remember that and going like, that is so weird. I'm getting all these big compliments, compliments, and this is the smallest I had been in so many years. So. It's because when you're lean, you look bigger. Same thing for me is,

Starting point is 00:36:30 unless I have a sweater on or something like that, but if I'm in a t-shirt or whatever and I go to see family member, they'll be, oh man, you look like you got a lot bigger. I'm like, actually, a lot. I lost seven pounds of body fat. Now for me, the motivation is not looks at all. So I'm actually trying to lean out because battling like you already have that covered.

Starting point is 00:36:49 Yes, yes, so. It's hard to work on that. It's about to go too far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, not at all. Why is because I still got the golfer's elbow that I'm battling. You should stop golfing. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that might not be it actually.

Starting point is 00:37:02 What I notice is, and this has been just, for me, when I carry myself over to 20, and I'm eating in a surplus, training heavy, and so I thought I'd just tend to battle a lot of aches and pains, I would just joint inflammation and just fill in that all the time. And I fill it in my elbow, and I fill it in my hips more often than I should.

Starting point is 00:37:22 And I've been doing mobility work to try and adjust it, but it still, it feels like it's back and forth thing. It's like, oh, it makes me feel temporarily good. Are you under 220 now? I'm down to about 220 right now. So I was coming from 225, I mean, I was all of it 230 something when we did the,

Starting point is 00:37:37 when we weighed in. I weighed just the other night, just two nights ago, was the last time I got on the scale. And I was 221 in the evening, which makes me think I'm probably 2.19, or maybe as low as 2.18. That's what I would guess, right? Yeah, in the morning.

Starting point is 00:37:52 So I actually got away. I'll see, I mean, I'm, again, I'm not hung up on the weight or any of that stuff, or how I look. It's, I'm waiting for me to feel better as well. Now, because I, you know, earlier episodes, you were talking about how maybe too much red meat, especially not grass-fed red meat, it was causing, could cause psoriasis for you or make it flare up.

Starting point is 00:38:13 What are you doing with, like, what are you doing with your, like, butcher box orders? Are you switching it to chicken? Or is it like, what are you doing with that? So technically, my order, our boxes, is always been a nice. Like we actually get more chicken than anything else, chicken and bacon, and those are some of the big things that I get consistently. It was actually, I was eating more red meat

Starting point is 00:38:34 because when I was only eating meat, red meat has got the most nutrients, right? The most nutrient dense food that I could get, and just if you ate chicken in Turkey all the time, you'd be missing a lot. So I was actually eating a ton of red meat when I first started the carnivore-esque diet. And I initially felt a little bit better, which now I looked back and go, oh, that was probably just the reduction of calories that I felt that way because my psoriasis actually

Starting point is 00:39:01 wasn't getting better. I was finding myself actually itching more, and I thought that was really interesting. I switched away from eating so much red meat, switched over to turkey and to like fish and stuff like that and chicken, right? And I started to notice that I started to get better. So now I have a way more of a blend

Starting point is 00:39:20 and the red meat consumption is reduced quite a bit, and then the only red meat I'm having is my, you know, grass-fed butcher-bought side. Are you snacking in between? I just found, okay, so I've been doing this for the last two or three days, but I have to, because the calories are lower, and when you sit down and you have two pounds, three pounds of meat for a meal, it's a lot, so I've been trying to spread it out more and have more like, I'm up to, I'd be like five, maybe six meals a day now instead of like just spread the meat. Yes. I guess spread that meat. Well, I've now introduced a lot more things

Starting point is 00:39:55 back in, right? So I mean, rice is consistently actually just last night. I had white potatoes for the first time, since I've been back on this. I introduced Keenwa pasta the other day So I've been like doing that like Intermittently I'll introduce a new food kind of see how I feel a little bit and then and then go back to like more meat and then so And so far I haven't introduced to anything else that is like really made my psoriasis flare-up or bother me And I've been feeling really, really good, except for when I was eating all red meat. I thought that was really interesting

Starting point is 00:40:29 that that happened, so I had to cut back on it. That's interesting. Yeah, my weight is down now. I'm under now, two, ten, so which for me now is getting leaner, and Jessica's same component. Oh, you look like you're getting bigger, which is hilarious. But speaking of diet, you look like you're getting bigger, which is hilarious, but speaking of diet,

Starting point is 00:40:46 you guys know that they did this big meta analysis on vegans and they found some, and this is like causing a bit of controversy. It's a bit of an uproar over what they found. You wanna hear what they found? Yeah. All right, check this out. So researchers reviewed 18 studies.

Starting point is 00:41:00 So this is like a big analysis of different studies which involved over 160,000 participants. So basically to summarize, here's what they found. Vegetarians are twice as likely to take medication for mental illness. They're nearly three times as likely to consider suicide. They show significantly higher rates of depression, anxiety, or self-harm behaviors, and generally, vegetarians demonstrated poor psychological health

Starting point is 00:41:29 while meat eaters exhibited better psychological health. Wow. Interesting, right? Now, the question is, I can see how that pisses off of. Well, I mean, that doesn't mean if you're a vegetarian or vegan, that's true for you. It just means that they found in this,

Starting point is 00:41:44 in this made analysis that people who ate this way were more likely. Now here's the question. You guys remember the cannabis study I brought up in one of the last episodes where I said, that they said cannabis causes this. Like which one is it the chicken or the egg? Is it that people who are more depressed,

Starting point is 00:42:00 likely to smoke cannabis or just cannabis cause the depression? Same thing here. So the question is, is that they're eating this diet causing these things or is it that people that are going into the diet? Yeah, tend to fall in this category. So those are the two things and there's evidence potentially for both. So one of them is because when you eat a diet that's especially vegan, so vegan means

Starting point is 00:42:23 no animal product whatsoever, right? That the rate of nutrient deficiencies is much higher, right? Because you have to eat a good well-rounded combination of foods to make up for nutrients that you would get in just like a piece of, you know, steak or ground beef. And those nutrient deficiencies can definitely increase the risk of a lot of those things that we talked about Depression, anxiety, all these things then the other on the other hand Researchers are saying but here's the other thing people who tend to be anxious or depressed or have these issues

Starting point is 00:42:57 They tend to find ways of Finding control in their lives. So they're also more likely to have eating disorders or more likely to do the, so one way of finding control would be to be like, here's my strict, you know, my structure. Very strict. Yeah, regimented diet. And so I'm just gonna follow this. So very interesting, right?

Starting point is 00:43:15 So there's a lot of kind of hub up going on around, you know, this whole thing. Yeah, I'm sure that pissed off a lot of people that were. I mean, you can get as mad as you want. It's just the studies to set that. So, what they've revealed. I got something to share with you guys. I don't know can get as mad as you want. It's just the studies to set that. So, right. What they have revealed. It's a, I got something to share with you guys. I don't know if you guys have seen this yet. It dropped on, um, prime, I believe. Uh, I think, you know, Sal was the one that got me paying attention to that. How prime does

Starting point is 00:43:35 the, uh, releases these like would have been in theater and you can buy them. Um, they just dropped, uh, the documentary on Sesame Street. Yeah, really cool. Really good. Did you watch it? I watched most of it. Yeah, did you like it? I thought it was really interesting. Very interesting. Very interesting.

Starting point is 00:43:50 So did I. That was Sesame Street and Electric Company. And what's the other one? Mr. Rogers. Okay, so who is your favorite character? On what? Sesame Street. Oscar the Grouch.

Starting point is 00:44:00 Oh, you like it. Yeah, I loved Oscar. How about you? Yeah, yeah. No, I liked Oscar. I liked what was the count? Oh yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, And we're kind of in this right now with tech. What do we talk about all time about? Being worried about our kids being glued to tech and scrolling on social media?

Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah, because there was a lot of worry about TV. That numbers were coming out showing that kids were spending a tremendous of time in front of TV. And so the strategy was, look, we're not gonna need kids to not watch TV. Why not present them with good information? Better programming. But using the same tactics that are used in commercials back then.

Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. So that was the idea was, you know, we, and what, I think what promoted it was, they're saying that kids were like singing like, you know, Budweiser and and and cigarette and cigarette jingles. And that's what they were those like. And of course you had some parents, I'm sure that were, you know, a Paul by that. Yeah, and then you see the bubble gum cigarettes. Yeah, I had, remember, big league chew and it's you know, a Paul like that. Yeah, and then you see the bubble gum cigarettes. Yeah, I remember Big League 2 and it's like,

Starting point is 00:45:06 dude, what are we doing? Yeah, yeah. But that's what motivated him to do this. And a lot of people thought they were crazy. It would never take off. Kids wouldn't like it, but they actually applied those same jingle and short snippets like as content to hook kids in and it just, it took off.

Starting point is 00:45:26 It was really interesting about this, right? So it was on PBS, right? Public broadcasting, is it service? I think it was. It was public TV. So this was government funded TV and TV programming. So I get torn, right? Because, look, here's a deal.

Starting point is 00:45:44 I typically oppose to that kind of stuff because we don't, it's not following a market, I guess, demand. However, it did succeed in the market. In fact, Sesame Street became one of the most popular. Yes. Some of the best programming. It became incredibly popular, right? So it was all educational too. It was like, wholesome, like good morals and Sesame Street was the beginning of that. Yeah, there was nothing before. There was nothing like that on TV before. It was all, you know what, it was all content was all centered around advertising. It was what shows would hook people in watching enough and then how could we insert as many

Starting point is 00:46:16 commercials as we could? I actually, I think I remember seeing too that they developed like cereals around these cartoons. And so they're actually like, yeah, they would engineer that. That whole thing was like, you know, because action figures were big, you know, back then. And so they would develop all these ideas based off of like how they're going to sell that. I also did you not get a feeling of, I mean, I made me feel good about what we do, right? Because when I think about the motivation behind what we were creating, right? Obviously we weren't going after kids,

Starting point is 00:46:46 but we looked at like the fitness space and the content that was being provided. And use those same strategies to present good information, right? Because you gotta beat them at their own game. If you don't win the attention, you're gonna present all the great information in the world, but you're not gonna do anything.

Starting point is 00:47:04 Totally, yeah, speaking of Amazon Prime though, I mean, this one's totally like more in your wheelhouse, so. But there was a movie, I guess, it's the format's kind of strange, but it's, you've ever seen the movie Men Who Stare at Goats? No, I haven't seen that. Okay, so this is like, this is like, sort of the science behind all of that in terms of like all the government programs for parapsychology and for like no edic science and all this like crazy out there stuff that are like it's called superhuman like the invisible turn visible or something. But it basically is just describing a lot of like really out there concepts but like

Starting point is 00:47:41 doing it in a really scientific way, and showing how like each cell has its own vibrational noise, and then they bring it into the lab, and they show you all these things. I want to watch this. This is on. Yeah, and they show this one lady that just shows like everybody, like how you can affect the pH of water just by like, really concentrating and putting your intention over it and then they actually measured it and everything.

Starting point is 00:48:08 And so, did they really? Yes. Okay, so are you guys familiar with, I'm not gonna talk about this long time. It's obviously your transferring that energy into the water. So there's this research that was done by this Japanese scientist,

Starting point is 00:48:17 and I can't remember his name. It's a famous study and it's controversial study, but what you would do is people would have some kind of an intention over water. So he had water that monks and priests would pray over. He had water that would be present when people were arguing. He'd have water that people are yelling at, like all these different things.

Starting point is 00:48:39 And then they would freeze the water. And then they would look at the ice crystals that would form from this particular water. And there were distinct differences in the water and then they would look at the ice crystals that would form from this particular water and there were distinct differences in the water that was presented with negative information versus the water that was too. So you're gonna like this. Oh, Masaro Imodo, you can look them up. Justin, you'll like this. The next time you're over at Tina's, go in the refrigerator and open it and go look at the water in there. Okay. She actually had, and I've got to, I can't think of the name for the life of me right now. Well, this is like a lot of the stuff like there. Okay. She actually had, and I've got to, I can't think of the name for the life of me right now.

Starting point is 00:49:05 Well, this is like a lot of the stuff like she talks about. Like it's all the science behind all of that. It's really fascinating. And it talks about consciousness and then it kind of describes like how basically like we, how we affect each other

Starting point is 00:49:20 and how we get entangled with other consciousnesses. And so you can actually like, and this is how they explain remote viewing. So that was a big part of the research that they didn't want to basically publicly display how effective it is. Okay. So during the Cold War, we invested a significant amount of money in this type of stuff, remote viewing.

Starting point is 00:49:41 The Soviets did too. Now, this is what they released, right? So I don't know if this is how accurate this is, but what they released was that the remote viewers, so you know the remote viewers, this is somebody like, let's say you and I are remote viewers where these pair of, you know, were these, they could talk to the other side, right? No, not talk to the other side. We would use our, you know, whatever powers are psychic abilities and we would tell the US government where missile,

Starting point is 00:50:06 the exact location where yeah, missiles were exciting. Military bases, and they invested, I actually spent quite a bit of money on this, and from what they released, it was 100% accurate. Not 100% really, that's it. Here's what I read, that it was better than the statistically. Again, they downgraded it, but like, maybe they're wrong in this movie,

Starting point is 00:50:26 but they said it was like 100% accurate and they pulled the program. Well, it was definitely better than random. Right, so I think it was Carter or somebody that basically pulled the whole program of like trying to move and hide these missiles because they knew that like, so the Soviets were also doing the same thing in like some other countries and so they're like, well, they're just were also doing the same thing in some other countries,

Starting point is 00:50:45 and so they're like, well, they're just gonna find a meeting. I watched one where this, I think it was a woman where she was doing it, and she would just draw, right? So she'd do this thing, and then she would draw, and she's like, I don't know where this is. And so then the researchers would have to kind of figure it out, and be like, that looks like a place in Iowa, and then they would go there and sure enough,

Starting point is 00:51:03 for fucking picture, matched the place that they found. Yeah, how weird is that right? It's hell a weird Very strange bizarre, but again, it's like I appreciated it just because it was like more of the actual like they tested all these theories Hey before we transition to the to the questions there's some shout outs that we want to oh yeah Douglas what's up with our firefighters? What's up? Yeah? We got some firefighters in O'ahuasso, Oklahoma woo and paramedics We also have the Bladensburg fire department in Prince George's County, Maryland Thank you very much for all that you do

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Starting point is 00:52:08 dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout A first question is from a you bond. I have worked on my rear delts two times a week for three years But they just won't grow any tips. Oh, man Okay, more than almost any other body part. So first off, the rear delts, obviously, is a part of the shoulder that's in the back. It's very responsible for giving you round looking shoulders. A lot of people don't know this.

Starting point is 00:52:34 They work the side delts a lot, thinking it's gonna give them that's kind of round what they call caps. But the reality is, and I was lucky to figure this out when I was young, and I know Adam talks about this all the time when he was competing You develop the rear del and it gives you this that's what gives you the shoulder this kind of round look Now here's the thing with the with the rear del almost always when people have issues developing it Obviously if they're training it frequently and the volume is good the problem is connection

Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, they go they go and do a rear-dell exercise and it becomes a rhomboid or trap exercise. Very, very, people have a tough time just for pinching their shoulder blades together and going too far. I love this. This was like, and this took me a while to piece together. And I 100% agree.

Starting point is 00:53:19 I think if you put, I even went on a kick for a while where I started all shoulder workouts with rear delts. And I highly recommend that to whoever's, you know, if you're listening and this is your question, this is start with your rear del exercises and pay extra attention to the technique because it's a small part of a muscle. So it's you're trying to target an area

Starting point is 00:53:45 that it's very easy, like Sal said, for a bigger back muscle to take care of, take over the movement. And it looks, when you just look at somebody doing a rear delt fly, it's really hard unless you really understand biomechanics to see the difference between a good one and a bad one. Someone doing a good rear delt fly,

Starting point is 00:54:04 there's just very slight angle. Exactly, there's a slight difference. And I'd have some good videos on our YouTube channel because this is something that I addressed a couple of years ago showing some of my favorite, great video, some of my favorite exercises for rear delts. One of my favorite for that is, and I don't even know what I would call it,

Starting point is 00:54:23 like a rear delt fly, bent over rear-delt fly on a free-motion or a cable machine. And I like this because the cable actually pulls you through which puts you in that forward shoulder position which is, this is advantageous for trying to work the rear delts. The mistake that people make is they retract and then that once you retract the shoulder blade,

Starting point is 00:54:44 then the back comes in to help out. So you actually wanna stay in this kind of forward position. And I like being bent over with the killer because it's pulling you in that position. And then when you fly back, I don't say fly back, I say fly out. And you're so you're pulling out in a way which kind of gives the cue of keeping it in the rear delt

Starting point is 00:55:01 and not allowing the back to kick in. Because if you come back with it it the back takes over the movement. Yeah, now the other part of that that's important is to keep the elbow up and high. What will end up happening is especially when you go into heavy is you get this kind of external rotation with the elbows and it starts to become this weird looking kind of row or fly elbow out. So you're kind of pulling way out here and it's a smaller range of motion than you think. It's not this huge wide range of motion. Now if you're looking for function and you wanna strengthen some of the muscles of the back,

Starting point is 00:55:31 then yeah, you wanna do this real wide kind of full range of motion. But if you're looking to develop this particular muscle, it's not responding well, go light, and then focus on really feeling that muscle and especially what Adam has said in terms of technique. And then it'll start to develop and it'll develop just like the rest of your shoulder.

Starting point is 00:55:50 It's just a lot of people and they do these exercises. It's all back exercises. So they do the flies, but they don't. I think the setup is crucial, I think, and to your point of like having that cable like kind of putting you into that position helps a ton. I've figured that out because I used to take it, you know, the opposite way.

Starting point is 00:56:06 I put myself in like optimal posture, right? And so I'm like retracting my shoulders, I'm getting myself upright. And in this instance, you know, in order to really target it, it's not going to be advantageous. Next question is from DM Coruso 93. How would you guys recommend incorporating neck training into a routine? Neck training, you guys ever work out, like, I mean, you play football, so I'm assuming you guys did a lot of neck training.

Starting point is 00:56:32 So we did, but also that wasn't a big emphasis. And we, we would start out as like sort of warm up drills and we'd have a partner sort of kind of applying pressure to one side and we do isometrics with it. But honestly, the Dynac training stuff's a little sketchy to me in terms of what I feel comfortable with training a client with, even if they're an athlete. And just the constant load, and what I had to account for having a helmet on for the entire practice,

Starting point is 00:57:00 did a ton for me in terms of building my neck strength and also just deadlifting, you know, by itself. So, you know, I tend to steer people away from this whole like isolating neck specific type exercising. Yeah, no, you have to have like any exercise, good technique, good form, and you have to be very careful because one of the weakest body parts that we have and one of the body parts that has some of the worst dysfunction is the neck. Forward head is a big deal. And so if you have forward head and then you train your neck

Starting point is 00:57:34 and do neck exercises with this dysfunction, you're asking for... I'm gonna add a lot more problems. Yeah, you're asking for neck pain and problem. So the way that I would train the neck initially, if you've never worked your neck out, is by working on getting better posture, I would do like 10 tucks. Yeah, like the wall test, right? Like in maps prime, where you're up against

Starting point is 00:57:53 the wall and you create those points of contact, you push that that that nodule at the bottom of your of your skull into the wall and you do what's called like traction, where you're trying to elevate your neck, you're trying to elongate your neck and press back at the same time, strengthen your neck with these exercises first. Get good function. Then you can move more to these traditional strength training exercises where your neck where by the way, don't use any weight at all

Starting point is 00:58:17 unless you already have a strong functional neck but it's as easy as like literally leaning forward and bringing your head back or leaning on your back and bringing your chin forward or going side to side. Now here's the cool thing. Once you have good function, everything's moving right, the neck develops very quickly. So if you have like a pencil neck or whatever

Starting point is 00:58:38 and you need a bigger, stronger neck, that for some reason, that muscle in my experience just develops very, very quickly. So I love to progress the wall. I would start somebody. First of all, never did with weights for people. I think it's a bad idea for most people. And it's just the risk versus reward in it.

Starting point is 00:58:53 And like Justin said, if you're playing a sport, you just carrying the helmet around, doing that's going to be enough to Sal's point. If you get really strong and you already have excessive forehead, you're only going to strengthen that, right? Make that worse. So I would start with the wall test, which is just the basic chin tucks where you're getting that down.

Starting point is 00:59:10 And then to progress that, I would actually do it off the floor. So head lifts off the floor. So you lay face down, and so obviously gravity's working against you, and you're just lifting. Yeah, you're not looking up. Yeah, you're not looking up. You're just lifting the head up into neutral spine

Starting point is 00:59:21 and then holding, and hold for five seconds, three laps, lift the head up, hold, hold for about five seconds, and I'll tell you what, that's work. It's just the weight of the head, and then trying to lift your head up into neutral spine and that isometric hold, you're gonna develop some strength in the neck and there's a lot less risk. There are some interesting products now

Starting point is 00:59:40 that look like they're a little safer options in terms of adding resistance, where I don't know if it's called the halo. Yeah, I saw that with the, Joe Rogan did a commercial for us. Yeah, I've seen DeFranco do some stuff with it that did make sense, but again, the prerequisites is, you know, making sure you have that proper function,

Starting point is 00:59:57 you can put, you can stack your spine and good alignment, and you understand how to put yourself in a good position first before we start adding stress. 100%. It's 99% of people watching this or listening to this right now, like work on neck function. That's all the workout that you need. It will strengthen your neck.

Starting point is 01:00:15 It'll also strengthen and develop good function. Then from there, which will take you a while, so it's not like you do it for a week, and like now I can go load my neck, do it for a while until your neck feels really strong, you've got the movement down, you've got great function. Then you can start working on some light loading. I mean, back in the day when I was doing a lot of grappling,

Starting point is 01:00:34 I remember we would have these wrestlers that would come in to train with us and they taught me I had a neck bridge and then I would do, I'd roll all the way back to my nose and I'd walk. Wrestlers went crazy. Oh, I did all kinds of stuff with my neck. Now here's the thing, I'd roll all the way back to my nose and I'd walk. Wrestlers went crazy. Oh, I did all kinds of stuff on my neck.

Starting point is 01:00:46 Now here's the thing, I didn't understand neck function. So I just did all this shit. Well, now I have terrible neck mobility, rotational mobility, and I 100% blame me doing all that crazy stuff without having the prerequisites before. Oh yeah, I remember doing like just getting in the clenching when I was in Moiety for a bit. I'm just getting pulled all over the place

Starting point is 01:01:06 Oh, man, I'd be sore for weeks. Oh, and a sore neck is the worst. The worst thing. It's way worse than sore legs. You have a sore neck your day sucks. Next question is from Marissa white 750. Can you please explain insulin resistance? Resistance. This is a big, big issue in modern societies. This contributes to obesity, inflammation, heart disease, cognitive decline, Alzheimer's, dementia. It's a big issue. And in that shell, without getting too complicated, what it essentially means is the insulin

Starting point is 01:01:41 that your body is producing, is it working as well in your body? It's like you need more insulin to do the same job that less insulin used to do. So it ends up happening with your body as it produces more and more insulin and your body becomes more and more resistant. And then of course downstream, what is that?

Starting point is 01:01:58 That's diabetes, right? Yeah, would you consider that like pre-diabetic symptoms? Yes, and in fact, you fact, now researchers are saying, because they'll measure your fasting glucose and say, oh, looks like you might be developing some insulin resistance. Now researchers are saying it starts way earlier than they thought, where it can even start as a kid.

Starting point is 01:02:16 And then it takes years to really turn into full-blown insulin resistance. So I guess the second part of this, the important part of this is, how do we avoid insulin resistance or how do we make our body become more sensitive to insulin? This is what the low carbs ellets attach a lot of their, their, their, their, the stuff they talk about to the research around this. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I agree with

Starting point is 01:02:43 lane when he challenges the only thing I don't like is I think it's a bad message to present to people because this is where eating so much carbohydrates and I think as a whole, or society does that so much that it could lead to this path. And so I know he tries to debunk a lot of the material that the low-carb zealots use about insulin resistance, but at the same time too, I think they're intentions to try and get people

Starting point is 01:03:09 to eat less sugar and to reduce their carbohydrate and take is an overall good message. It is, but it's really okay. So you can develop insulin resistance on a low carb diet. There's connections between insulin resistance. Although it's a lot less likely. It is, but my point is,

Starting point is 01:03:24 they've shown insulin resistance developing with a high fat diet. Now here's the thing that I'll lot less likely. It is, but my point is they've shown insulin resistance developing with a high fat diet. Now, here's the thing that I'll have in common. High calories, right? You eat a lot of carbs, a lot of sugar, and your calories are always high, and then of course you combine that with inactivity. Now the risk goes up. Here's the biggest risk. The biggest risk is lack of muscle. In fact, building muscle regardless of body weight. So you can even be obese.

Starting point is 01:03:46 Building muscle is one of the best, most effective things you can do to best protection. Improving insulin resistance. So if it runs in your family, diabetes runs in your family, if insulin resistance is a concern to yours, build muscle. Your muscle is like, with the most effective bulwarks against insulin resistance. It resistance, very insulin-sensitive tissue. It stores some sugars and carbohydrates. When you work out, it increases your insulin-sensitivity. Well, isn't this directly connected to the amount of time that the body takes to take a carbohydrate

Starting point is 01:04:19 and convert it into sugar, right? Part of it. And then when you come insulin resistance, it accelerates that dramatically. Is that the opposite of that? I mean, it's? Part of it. And then when you come insulin resistance, it accelerates that dramatically. Is that the opposite? I mean, it's all kind of connected. It's probably a little more complex than that, but it's literally, we're always looking for a simpler way to explain it to the audience.

Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah, I would say, you know, really it's just your, you're, I mean, just to put it in a nutshell, it's just, it's insulin stops doing a job, right? So you eat carbohydrates or sugar, insulin goes up to drive that into areas of storage, whether it be body fat or muscle or the liver. And so if you have more muscle, you have more place to store it. That's part of it, right? And then of course muscle itself increases on its own, increases insulin sensitivity. It's by far the best thing you could do. In fact, when they put men on, and I know this from talking to, you know, certain doctors, when they put men on testosterone replacement therapy, because when a man has low testosterone, he loses muscle and when

Starting point is 01:05:15 they raise his testosterone, he tends to add muscle regardless if he's working out or not, right? Because it's a hormone driver. By doing so, when the muscle comes on their body, they notice better numbers. Insulin resistance goes down and sensitivity goes up. So then obviously you have a client, you're training them. They go to their doctor, doctor comes back, tells them that they're insulin resistant. You as a trainer, obviously you're already on a program to build the muscle because that's part of your job. What are you coaching them on diet? What are you saying to them different about their diet?

Starting point is 01:05:43 Reducing carbohydrates. Now, I mean, their diet? Reducing carbohydrates, and calories. Reducing carbohydrates and calories. But here's the thing with reducing carbohydrates when you already have insulin resistance. It's almost like you're solving the problem, but not the root necessarily. It's like now we're at this place. So now reducing carbohydrates makes a big difference,

Starting point is 01:06:02 but really what would have fixed it is if we just made your body more sense. This is why people with Alzheimer's and dementia, you put them on a ketogenic diet and their cognition improves. It's not necessarily because the carbs in their diet would have the problems, it's because their body isn't utilized

Starting point is 01:06:18 the carbs very well anymore. And it needs ketones now to operate much better. So again, the best thing you can do is build muscle. Next question is from Folvio, the castle. Does pain tolerance improve along with strength training? I think your ability to disseminate good and bad pain, it totally improves when you start to work out. I think that's really what it is.

Starting point is 01:06:42 You understand better what these signals are. So if there's a burn, you don't freak out. Like if there's a soreness and achiness, like you can identify that this was a result of, something you do with the workout versus like, you know, a really sharp, like lightning type of response of pain that was, you know, something you should really pay attention to.

Starting point is 01:07:02 I guess I would ask what kind of pain tolerance are we talking about? I mean, is it muscle soreness pain or acute pain? Like, what kind of pain? I would say the pain that comes from exercise, your tolerance goes up. Like, think about when you would get a new client. Like pain from a breakup.

Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah. So it helps with that too. Does it really, or does your body just adapt? And so the same things that offended it before don't offend it? Well, no, because you work yourself out harder. I would bet you that you do sets, you do sets as you became more advanced that were way more painful than when you were at the beginning. Sure.

Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah okay so you know when you train a new client, every happened to you, where you train a new client and they're doing an exercise and they never lifted weights or worked out before and they burn a little bit and they like, it's like oh my god what is this? I can't even tolerate the client's drop weights before. So by. It was birding my bike to school. Yeah, exactly. I had this experience with my daughter.

Starting point is 01:07:52 So my daughter, she's only 11, so occasionally I'll do a workout with her. And I remember we did some leg exercises for the first time, and it's really hard to gauge if I'm going too hard or not hard enough. And so, you know, the first workout I might get her sore, right? And I remember the next day, she wakes up and she's calling me from her room for school. Bup-bup.

Starting point is 01:08:10 So I walk in there and like, what's the matter, honey? She's like, I hurt my leg. I'm like, oh shit, what happened? Where does it hurt? And she's like pointing to her quads. She's like, I'm injured. And so I'm like moving around. I'm like, no, honey, you're sore.

Starting point is 01:08:22 Like you don't know what it feels like to have this kind of soreness. So I think it's really, it's honey, you're sore. Like you don't know what it feels like. Yeah, yeah. To have this kind of soreness. So I think it's really, it's about how you perceive it, what it feels like. Because I could now, because I've been working out for so long, I can tolerate, you know, burn, I can tolerate the pain from working out. I know the difference between the good kind of pain when I work out, the bad kind of pain.

Starting point is 01:08:41 But if you don't train, it's all just pain. Yeah. It's really hard for you to kind of, you know. I also would caution somebody though here too, because you don't have to go through so much pain either to train and get the body to adapt. That was a mistake that I had that, no pain, no gain, mentality as a young.

Starting point is 01:08:59 And the more pain, the better. Yeah, and then I was seeking that soreness and we'd talk about how great it is to feel that way. And so you are chasing that for a long period. We're on the opposite now. I'll start training and I feel like, oh yeah, that's, I'm there.

Starting point is 01:09:13 You know, like that's, if I do another set, I'm gonna be more sore than I ever need. I can tell in a workout. So I'm not like pushing through pain and I'm like, oh, I'm five more sets. Like you actually don't need to train this way. I think that's what I'm thinking about pushing through pain and I'm like, oh, I have five more sets. Like, you actually don't need to train this way. I think that's what I'm thinking about tomorrow. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:28 Like, what's gonna happen tomorrow? Can I replicate what I'm doing today tomorrow? And I try and keep that in mind now, all the time when I'm working on it's so much more effective. And my body will adapt and change and get all those desired results, you know, much quicker that way. And I'm not just putting myself under the gun and then now I have to heal from what I used to do.

Starting point is 01:09:47 Yeah, as a trainer, I changed my vernacular when I would talk to clients. I stopped using the word pain. I would use discomfort. I'd say, you know, we want, you definitely gonna feel discomfort, exercising and stretching and doing things because that discomfort gets what gets your body to adapt.

Starting point is 01:10:03 But I wouldn't use pain because, again, if you don't know, like, you know, we work out, you know, for years, we know, like, the right amount of pain. You say pain to the average person, especially the message, no pain, no gain. Right. And you get the super motivated, like, I just want to lose weight tomorrow, person.

Starting point is 01:10:17 They're going to go hard for the pain. Wait too much. And you only need to be in that discomfort for a short minute. You don't need to keep pushing beyond that. Like that. So, you know, you're changing the vernacular or whatever. I mean, when you get to that point where you feel it from that workout, like, you're probably pretty close to done doing five, six more sets or another exercise.

Starting point is 01:10:36 I mean, that's the overreaching part that I think I made that mistake for many years. Yeah. Is it more discomfort than you used to, right? If you sit on your couch all day long, 10 sets of body weight squats, like we're probably going to get your muscles to change a little bit. If you work out all the time, five days a week in the lift weights, well, there's a whole different level of discomfort that you probably have to have to achieve in order to get your body to change. Look, if you like this information, head over to MindPumpFree.com. We have so many free guides that can help

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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1556: Tricks to Kickstart Rear Delt Growth, How to Build Your Neck, Understanding Insulin Resistance & More

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