Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1561: The Best Exercises to Build a Thick & Wide Back, Why the Metabolism Boost from Building Muscle Is Superior for Fat Loss, the Optimal Way to Take Creatine & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, alright. In today's episode, we answered some questions that were asked by our audience. These are fitness and health questions. But we opened the episode with an intro portion

Starting point is 00:00:26 where we talk about current events. We talked about investments. We brought up some of our sponsors. It was a good time. The intro was 42 minutes long. After that, we got to the questions. Here's what went down in today's episode. We opened up, I talked about movies from the 80s.

Starting point is 00:00:40 These are the ones we grew up watching. The best ones. As kids, we give you some good ones to go pull up on the internet and watch. Trust us. They're right. Sure, circuit. Then Adam tells us about the origins of the name

Starting point is 00:00:52 Lulu Lemon. It's not what you think. It's actually kind of a funny story. Then we learned about gold leaf stakes. So for people who think that expensive stakes are not expensive enough, apparently, there's a restaurant that will wrap your staking gold so that you can spend more money, apparently.

Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah. Then, burn money. Then there's more controversy around Epstein. Yeah, that piece of crap jerk guy that killed himself or was suicideed. More interesting information is surfacing. He's still alive. Then we talk about more alien stuff.

Starting point is 00:01:24 More crazy information. They live among us. That's still alive. Then we talk about more alien stuff, more crazy information. They live among us. That's what Justin says all the time. I do say that. Then we talked about the Wuhan lab, the one that, in the past, they said, did not release the coronavirus. We went like, we went all in on this one. Yeah, but now they're saying that

Starting point is 00:01:39 might actually be where it came from. Then we talked about very effective insulation in containers. Now, our favorite are mere cups and bottles. They maintain the temperature of the fluids in there, whether it's cold or hot. So effectively, it's not almost too effective. In fact, you put something hot in there and you're ready to drink it.

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Starting point is 00:03:25 with speed up your metabolism, but don't you get hungrier? And if you get hungrier, doesn't that negate the effects? No, it doesn't, we explain why. Then the final question, this person says, look, I need some advice to refocus my goals because I'm not doing team sports anymore, but I do wanna be fit and healthy. Also, all month long, and this is ending soon

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Starting point is 00:04:10 And it's T-shirt time! Ah! Shit, Doug, you know it's my favorite time. That was a little weird. I should have took off my ear for this. Yeah, a little extra. Tell me about that. So we do have two winners.

Starting point is 00:04:22 We have one for Apple Podcasts, one for Facebook. The Apple Podcast winner is bass player, 1776. And for Facebook, we have Tavita Kali Kalani Haveli. You both are winners. Send the names I just read to iTunes at minepumpmedia.com. Include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get those shirts right out to you. Since we brought up on the show, we've started talking about everybody

Starting point is 00:04:50 that is either listening in the fire stations, police stations, we've had Navy, we've had all kinds of people reach out and had another shout out, what's the most recent one that we have right now? Yeah, we have the HMAS Canberra from the Australian Navy. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah. Hulla. That's very cool. Yeah, very, very cool. Yeah. Good stuff, boys. Thank you. Thank you for that.

Starting point is 00:05:13 I want to talk about Justin's $80 t-shirt that he's going to do today. Why is it so expensive? I mean, because it hugs me. It really like you. Well, these days contours. These days, every shirt hugs you. You know what I mean? It looks fantastic.

Starting point is 00:05:23 Do you know the name of the brand or no? I don't know. It's like a boutique, right? You got to know. It's this brand, whatever the heck this is. Like, I don't know. Like it's got to end and it has like colors. I've seen it on a bunch of things.

Starting point is 00:05:39 Hey, do you recognize this guy? I don't Justin does. Do you know who this is? Yes. Is that from the movie we talk about? Oh my God, dude. I'm a wrestler. Do you know who this is? Yes. He is that from the movie? We talk about my God. I'm a Russell. Oh my. Oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah, yeah. I know the name. I know the name. I can't think of it right now. I the God, I can't think of the name right now. You know, I know what it is though. It's with Kurt Russell and this is his name is low

Starting point is 00:05:59 Pan. This is a low pan. Yeah, low pan low pan. Yeah, from a big trouble. Yeah, it's a big trouble. Yeah, so I had this so Jessica got me this because we had this conversation where We're talking about like great movies when we were kids or whatever grown up Mm-hmm, and I'm like we have to watch big trouble and little China Did and she's like what I'm like it's trust me. It's awesome. You'll love it So then I start explaining it to her Jack Burton. Yeah, I started explaining it to her She's like what's it about? I'm like all right So it's awesome, you'll love it. So then I start explaining to her. Jack Burton. Yeah, I started explaining to her. She's like, what's it about? I'm like, all right. So it's like, you're in, you know, Chinatown.

Starting point is 00:06:30 And then like mystical, like warriors are attacking. One guy has electricity. For a combat like gods. Yeah, down from the sky. Yeah, it's like Chinese games that are fighting each other. And she's like, oh, this is so normal. Yeah, this is like, this is terrible. So like, no, it's way better than that. I love it with green-eyed girls. And she's like, oh, this is so normal. Yeah, this is terrible. So like, no, it's way better than that, bro.

Starting point is 00:06:46 They're in love with green-eyed girls. Did she watch it? There's a monster. No, she won't. She won't even watch it. No, and you know why she won't watch it? Because I ruined it with one movie, which I still think she's wrong.

Starting point is 00:06:55 And we'll ask the audience who they think is right here. I talked her into watching what I believed to be one of the best vampire movies of all time, which when we were too. White light. That's the worst, right when we were two. White light. No. That's the worst, right? I'm about to slap you. That just interesting.

Starting point is 00:07:08 Name a great vampire movie from when we were kids. That was just awesome. Oh yeah, I mean, the one that they shot it, it's Santa Carla, right? Yes, yes. Lost boys. Yeah, I forget the name. Great movie. Amazing movie.

Starting point is 00:07:20 So we watched it and thought it was terrible. Get out of here. Yeah, exactly. Jessica, we all disagree now. Those are old classics and you have to be terrible. Get out of here. Yeah, exactly. Jessica, just go home. We all disagree now. Those are old classics and you have to be into it. I feel like to watch it now. Because part of what ruins old movies like that

Starting point is 00:07:32 when you introduce it to like your kids, or what? They don't have the connection. Exactly. And cheesy too. Well yeah, because the acting and the camera and everything has come like so far. But last boys wasn't cheesy. No, well yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:44 But it's like you can, I mean, the makeup and the lighting in it, it's kind of, it's an 80s movie for sure. It's an 80s movie. Yeah, I mean, it's like my rad, right? I mean, you have to like, but that's legit. Stupid. No, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:07:57 You can't talk shit. You can't talk shit. You can't talk shit. I saw one clip, dude, the freaking music slow motion. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, judge a movie by a 15 second clip. Get out of here with it. You know what I watched yesterday? clip dude the freaking music slow motion Judging movie by a 15 second clip get out of here with you know what I watched yesterday while you're talking about the movies You're talking about right now. I'm teasing you. I'm teasing you. No, you know what I watched a little bit yesterday was the remake of red dawn I never saw the original red dawn. Is that good with Arnold? No, no, no, no No, no, no, no. It was another one of those 80 movies that was... No, no, Red Dawn was the one.

Starting point is 00:08:25 You're the one that won the enough. Just in that. So yeah, it was basically under the premise that the Soviets had taken over in the one like the Cold War. Yeah, so the worst. Who's the main actor? Isn't Patrick Swayze in that one?

Starting point is 00:08:37 Maybe Doug, look up Red Dawn, 1980s, Red Dawn. You know, I think you're right. Yeah, Swayze. So they're like high school kids, and then like some of the high school kids and then like, some of the high school kids have like an older brother who's like this navy guy, whatever. And the Soviets invade the US and these kids become,

Starting point is 00:08:55 I never watched it. So I'm just speaking out of like reading about it. And these kids like figure out like they fight back or whatever, and it's like a classic apparently. Yeah, no, it's good. It is good. It's not like one of the ones, like the staple classics, like I would go back to, but it was,

Starting point is 00:09:11 it was mildly entertaining. Yeah, it's like a cult. It's got like a cult classic. Anything like going through like the old 80s movies and watching them or what, what's up with that? No, it was, I did for a second, because we had that conversation. And then I saw the remake of Red Dawn.

Starting point is 00:09:25 And the remake is, and this is how I convinced Jessica to watch 15 minutes of it. Because at first she's like, I don't wanna watch this. And I'm like, that guy that placed the floor is in it. She's like, and of course she's in. She's like, who? I'm like, you know who it is. Yeah, I should try pretend.

Starting point is 00:09:39 All right, I'll try it. You know exactly who it is. That's why you wanna watch it now. 15 minutes into it though, it sucked. Yeah, it wasn't good at all. Yeah, it was North Korea invading, which is like, yeah. Yeah, no. No, I've been going on the 80s kick too,

Starting point is 00:09:52 mainly because I'm trying to get my kids to like, you know, watch some of the old stuff, like the nostalgic movies I grew up with and whatnot. And they're, they like most of it. I think it's because they know I like it, but then later they're kind of like, yeah, damn, I don't know about that one. And they've been giving me that a lot lately,

Starting point is 00:10:11 so I didn't get to do it. Did they talk crap about the special effects and stuff? Yeah, that's my cue. That's it. And even a movie like Top Gun, I'm like, dude, it's really amazing. You guys love this. And I was like, man, it was's amazing. You know, like, you guys love this. And I was like, man, you know, like, it's,

Starting point is 00:10:26 it was kind of cheesy, dad. Oh, really? Like cheesy. Now, they're at that age though. They're old enough boys now where they're watching probably cool movies. What are they into right now? Like, what's a, what's a favorite,

Starting point is 00:10:35 do you know a favorite movie of theirs right now? Well, I know, I know, ever it's like really into Monster movie still. Like, he's gone down the rabbit hole of all Godzilla and like all Pacific Rim and like everything. Oh cool. You know, I said this weekend. Did you? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:50 Pacific Rim? Yeah, yeah. Katrina went over with Max over to her mom's house for the weekend or for the day all day. And I was home and I was like, I haven't been home alone like that in a long time. And she doesn't like to listen to the TV loud. It drives me crazy, because I have these bad ass rounds.

Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah, because you're all about the experience. I'm all about that, right? So I'm all about having the movie theater experience at your house. And so I went upstairs in the movie room and stuff and like, volume 70. And watching, and actually, the way I landed on Pacific Ram, I'm like that guy from the max well commercial

Starting point is 00:11:27 So me so me and the way I landed on Pacific rim was I googled best surround sound movies and Pacific rim is like now How do you see it before? Yeah, I see it before I saw I saw quite a while ago. It's not it's actually Monster movies. Yeah, it was pretty good like I like that. No, I remember right now, like what movie was like total mess was, was short circuit. Remember that movie, the 80s movie about the robot? Yeah, yeah, I thought so too. But like, kids were making fun of me,

Starting point is 00:11:55 like, about the whole thing. And I'm just like, dude, and I, it was so funny, because I- 95. Yeah, it was actually the second one where he like, ends up joining this gang. And so I remembered the whole song because it was like ridiculous back of the day. What was the name of the gang?

Starting point is 00:12:10 Was it Miss Lakos? Miss Lakos. That's a Miss Lakos kicker face. Yeah. Miss Lakos. Didn't they make that a remake of that? Like just like a few years ago? Didn't they do a remake?

Starting point is 00:12:20 I don't know. They did. They did. It was like a very, very similar to Short Circuit, but like a newer version. I don't know. They got caught in a gang. Everything very very similar to short circuit But like a newer version got caught in a gang everything right short circuit one was good too was dumb See I like to versus one. Do you really yeah cuz it's it's so bad. It's good Yeah, it's like so cheesy and awful. No, I love it. Yeah, you know It's you know, it's really good that also couldn't convince my wife to watch was 28 days later Oh my god, that's the movie that brought zombies back that also couldn't convince my wife to watch was 28 days later.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh my God. That's the movie that brought zombies back. That'll freak you out. Yeah, because zombies, you know, now zombies are cool again, I guess, but for a while, it was very campy. And if it was, if you made a zombie movie, you were basically, you know, you were gonna tank.

Starting point is 00:13:02 Nobody took them seriously. 28 days later comes on and they changed the whole thing. And these are zombies that are like fast and aggressive. Yeah, and scary. Would you say it's very campy? Yeah, it was campy. Like zombies got like silly, you know? Like, ooh, you know, and they're slow and never heard

Starting point is 00:13:18 that term for a while. Yeah, I think I'm using the term right. Yeah, is that right? Yeah, campy's, thank you Doug. Thank you Doug for the, yeah. So it means easy. So campy is like another word for cheesy. Yeah, I think I'm using the term right. Yeah, is that right? Yeah, I can't be staking it. Thank you, Doug. Yeah. So it means you, so campy is like another word for cheesy? Yeah, kind of, kind of. Kind of.

Starting point is 00:13:30 Where's the reference come from? Well, like sitting around a campfire telling cheesy stories, I think it's like, I think it's like, so you have never heard anyone use that before. Yeah, you go on like, like, you're at a camp, like your camp counselor is like telling you stories. Like, well, that's what came to mind when you said it, I was sitting around telling you like a cheesy campfire like your camp counselor is like telling you stories. Like, me.

Starting point is 00:13:45 Well, that's what came to mind when you said it. I was sitting around telling you like a cheesy camp fire story. I have no idea. I know what it means, but I feel like I used it properly. I just don't know where it came from. Here it says, let's see, in the style of camp, absurdly exaggerated, artificial or affected

Starting point is 00:14:00 in a usually humorous way, campy horror movies. So yeah, so it's basically all those things. It's kind of like cheesy. So it's exactly exactly what's happening. Did I say where the term comes from, Doug? This is probably from the French. We just get a credit there, we'll have a credit there, John.

Starting point is 00:14:16 We use chiefly by persons of exceptional want of character. How very campy is. I don't know where that comes from. Yeah, I mean, the whole slow zombie thing like I So you guys watch walking dead. Yes. Yeah, it's just got to a point where you're like okay So there's like more of them, but they just move this fast, you know I just I'm not I wasn't the gripped by it. Oh 28 days later was a completely different experience Terrifying well-made very very good brought the whole genre back. Made it very, very good.

Starting point is 00:14:45 I'm gonna make it a left turn here. Doug, you've been in Japan, right? Yes. You live there. So I have something for you that I thought was really interesting. So I listened to the, I was just telling Justin this before, Sal walked in.

Starting point is 00:14:55 I was listening to the founder of Lulu Lemon. And you know how he came about with that name? Mm-hmm. So, I do, but here he told me. So there's no, there's no, there's no Ls in the Japanese language. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, so the backstory is this. I'm gonna make it really hard for him to make it.

Starting point is 00:15:12 No, listen, no, no, no, listen. So he used to have a company called Homeless. He had like a skate brand before, before Lulemon ever existed. The guy's a billionaire, right? So he came up with a bunch of cool stuff. And he had like this skate brand before that was called homeless. And it was pretty much tanking. And every time he'd go back to Japan, like they were trying to buy that name from him. And they kept offering him more and more money for it. And he just was like, because it had an L and

Starting point is 00:15:36 it was very American. It was a very American. And that's why they wanted it so bad. And so when he was coming up with a name to name his ATthleisure Wear brand, which was going to become Blue Lemon, his strategy was to put three Ls in it because he knew he could probably sell it for three times more if it didn't take off. Oh really? Yeah, so that was where Lulu Lemon came from. So how would they say it then in Japan? How would they pronounce it?

Starting point is 00:15:58 Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, DEMON or something like that. Okay, okay. Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, Ruhu, DEMON, it's hard to say. I don't think they have L in their underwear. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. That's very interesting. That's a very very interesting Yeah, that's actually true of a lot of languages where they don't have particular sounds at all And so it's a totally new sound. I do know that that's weird. Yeah, interesting. I thought that was really

Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, and that was the that was the sole reason and he was like he was sitting there He was sitting there. I want three else in it. It was like And that's like how it came about. Interesting. I don't know what it is, I've always wanted to go to Japan. I've always felt this interesting connection to the culture and just everything about Japan. Never been there.

Starting point is 00:16:37 I've always wanted to go to Japan. It would be cool, it would be cool to go. Yeah, like the Sumurai history, their martial art history, the way that they respect their elderly, and you know, I had a shoe market I had a so Doug obviously lived there so he would tell me about it. Great stakes. They got good whiskey Bro speaking of stakes. You guys know that you know the the salt bag guy. Oh

Starting point is 00:16:57 I just saw Mark Wahlberg do that. Yeah, okay, so he you know he has a restaurant down in LA, right? Have you seen what his stakes go for? He does these golden Tomahawk steaks, though, you have to pull this out. Literally, Google golden steaks. Is this sprinkle gold on them? It's a gold leaf and it's tasteless, and they wrap the steaks in this.

Starting point is 00:17:16 And the cheapest one, I think goes for $6.50, most of them are like $1,000 to $2,000 for a steak. So the restaurant is packed and everybody's eating it. Do they take the gold off off or do you eat it? No, this is added all to the flavors. They'll use like a Tomahawk steak wrapped in gold. Yeah. Like a little gold leaf.

Starting point is 00:17:33 Look, there it is right there. See that? The heck? That's a $1,000 steak. And I saw a video, this girl that I followed was like in there and like everyone was eating it. So it's just literally for the gram right? It is.

Starting point is 00:17:46 It is. And here's the thing, you know, seeing what's happening to the dollar and how, you know, things are getting inflated, I mean, you would eat that and then probably, I mean, I don't think you digest gold. You probably save it afterwards. You know what I mean? No, this salvage it. I think gold goes through your body.

Starting point is 00:18:01 I don't think you absorb it. I think you would go right, you'd have gold poop afterwards. Yeah, like gold speckles. It's a leaf. It's a, it's a gold leaf that it's wrapped in. Yeah, so it's like thin, right? It's like wagu beef already, right? Or wagu, I say, wagu.

Starting point is 00:18:16 Wagu. I say it duck. Wagu. Wagu. I'm trying one more time. God, I'll fuck that up. It's a duck set up for the audience. They know what it is.

Starting point is 00:18:24 They know what it is. They know what I meant, right? Have you ever eaten legit Wagyu steak or a piece of it? Have you ever had the real deal? Yeah, we have. We had it with the steak house when we were all together. It's so melts. Yeah, no, it's insane. The steak alone would already be a $250 steak.

Starting point is 00:18:40 Well, that's the thing. He's just trying to find another way to raise the price up. No, you're right. It's totally... If it doesn't add flavor, no, nothing. It's literally for the presentation. I mean, supposedly, I'm not going to lie. I want to go to the restaurant now.

Starting point is 00:18:54 I saw the videos of it. It looks hella cool. There's gold steak, everybody's eating. But they do. They do this whole and a presentation. I'm coming with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:03 Take care of me. I'm not eating gold. I didn take the stay meeting goal for it. I didn't even know this was a thing. Did you have the discounted stake with cubic zirconium because I can't afford the gold. I mean, you can order stakes, right? That aren't, they don't have the gold on it. But if you go to, if you get one of their gold stakes,

Starting point is 00:19:17 I think the cheapest one is 650 for one stake. And then they go all the way up to like 2000 dollars. That's the same. I know. And when I saw this, I saw like a restaurant that was just packed of people and you could see all the gold, all the gold stuff. Infer dessert, you get to burn a stack of cash. You fucking crazy.

Starting point is 00:19:33 That's such a great place. Hey, you know, sometimes they do that with the flaming tray. Yeah. It's like a stack of hundreds and they're like, yeah, yeah, we're going to put all your money in here. We're going to warm up your dessert with this money fire. Yeah. It's in lava cash.

Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah, exactly. You know, I'm more likely though, I'll be honest. I'm more likely to spend a lot of money on a meal than I am to buy things because of the experience. Of course. Just for me at least, I know some people like, you know, the things, but for me, I like to experience some.

Starting point is 00:20:03 I like things too though. But I don't know if I'd spend a thousand dollars on a piece of meat. Yeah, I know some people like, you know, the things, but for me, I like to experience some. I like things too, though. But I don't know if I'd spend a thousand dollars on a piece of meat. Yeah, I don't know the, yeah. Again, if it makes sense, like if it enhances the meat and like it's, it does best. Yeah, so to me, that's just silly. Oh, dude, I got something for you, Justin.

Starting point is 00:20:16 Okay, do you hear the new news on Epstein? No, I have not. There is news on Epstein. I mean, bring it up for you. I've been wondering because this whole Jislaine lane Maxwell thing like she's just sort of disappeared into the ether. So this is mainstream media. So here's the title of the article.

Starting point is 00:20:34 Jeffrey Epstein's prison guards, so these guys that were guard, remember he killed himself? Yeah. And the security camera, they lost the footage. I'll let you, yeah, let you. A bunch of weird shit happened, right? Like a million things that could never happen all the same time will happen.

Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, conveniently. Jeffrey Epstein's prison guards admit to falsifying records in a deal to avoid jail time. Whoa. They admitted it. What? How insane is that? Like they falsified records, but I mean,

Starting point is 00:21:03 what are they admitting right now, like besides that they just messed with records? Well, it says here, so instead of jail time, so the two guards, Noel and Thomas, would receive a supervised release, be required to complete 100 hours of community service and be expected to cooperate fully with an investigation that's being conducted

Starting point is 00:21:19 by the Justice Department's Inspector General. So essentially what they're saying is that they falsified, you know, the records. And that's what we're at so far. So now they're agreeing to talk about everything. So here's the question, are the prison guards gonna be, are someone gonna suicide them?

Starting point is 00:21:39 That's the question now. Now that they have to be a suicide them. Yeah. You know what I mean? They're on a death watch immediately. I feel like that gets all clocked. Don't you guys feel like that all got like brushed on the rug was like such a big deal

Starting point is 00:21:50 and then all of a sudden no one's talking about it. 100%. I do, because right after that we had the killer hornets and then a bunch of the weird things to get us off the track. Well now you see the connection with Bill Gates and Epstein and all that being on the logs and stuff and that's like, oh we gotta throw some else out there.

Starting point is 00:22:07 I know, right? So along those lines of weird stuff, so more, so this is getting crazy now with the alien stuff. It just keeps coming out right. Right, God. I saw that with Joe Rogan posted the other day. Which one, oh the one that we're in the water? Yeah, okay, so it was submerged.

Starting point is 00:22:22 There's even more now. So I think it was in 2017, I'm gonna pull it up right now There's even more now. So I think it was in 2017. I'm gonna pull it up right now. So I have the article. I think it was in 2017 that astronomers saw this, essentially this, this asteroid that they found and it was very strange. It was a very strange asteroid.

Starting point is 00:22:42 First off, it was shaped like a cigar. So it wasn't round. Oh yeah. And the way that. First off, it was shaped like a cigar, so it wasn't round. And the way that it was flying was it was going head over heels. And usually asteroids aren't that weird shape. The color of it was red, so it means it was outside of our solar system. It looks like it's only a Bristol stool chart. Yeah, thank you very much. It's a number two.

Starting point is 00:23:01 No, it's a number two. It's an oracle four. It's an oracle four, as you sure it was a three. It is. It's a healthy two. No, it's a number. No, it's a number. It's an oracle four. It's four. Yeah. As you sure it was. It is. All right. Well, double chat. That's a healthy one. It's a healthy poop, essentially. But it's a the color tells the astronomers now that it came from out of the solar system. The way that it was moving. How come how does how does just because it's painted red, it means it's at the solar system. You know, I don't know the science. Painted.

Starting point is 00:23:22 Who's painting it? Well, I mean, it's red. They got red somehow. It's said alien on it. And I'm like, boy, yeah, but how do you know? It's all Russian. I have no idea. Come on, because something is red, we all send us assumes. I think that there's a certain color

Starting point is 00:23:36 and character is green, or yellow it would be here. No, no, no, no. I think that there's certain colors and characteristics of asteroids that we know originate from our solar system based on what we know and I don't know the details. But that's what they said in this article. Okay, so let's believe it. It also lacked the particles and gases that usually surround a trail comet known as a

Starting point is 00:23:55 coma, didn't have that. It was moving unusually fast, like I said, tumbling head over heels and accelerating in speed as if it was being pushed. So now they're going back and they're saying that might have been alien origin. It might have been alien technology. They kind of, so it has like its own propulsion on like an actual like meteor.

Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, so they're looking back at all the data and all these scientists are going, okay, this is too weird. We should investigate this thing back in 2017. What's the new term now? It's not UFO anymore. You guys aren't supposed to call it UFO. That's like, oh, there's a new term that you're supposed to use.

Starting point is 00:24:36 What's the new term? Come on, both you dorks are into this and you're either one of the guys from the USSR. I heard it before. But say, put it Google, I refuse to change you. I for an actor old term. You have a old term.

Starting point is 00:24:47 It's that we can't say aliens. They're undocumented. No, it's something like that. It's no no one says you a foe anymore. If you're really into this, you're not supposed to say that. Yeah, I just want to get you guys in the I know there's a term, but I forgot. There is school. No, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

Starting point is 00:25:01 Well, if you guys want all of these you've evolved to these other conspiracy theories people to get on board with you, you better get with the right. Well, if you guys want all of these, you've evolved to these other conspiracy theories people to get on board with you, you better get with the right, you better get with the right terminology. Yeah, well, this isn't a conspiracy theory. Did you guys hear about China? There it is, right there, UAP. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Crap's?

Starting point is 00:25:17 What's a crap? I don't know. Can you find out what a crap is? There's an acronym crap. What is that? Okay, unidentified aerial phenomena. Yes, you are a P, you AP is a new name. Why would they change the name?

Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, that's, I mean, we had it, it was just fine. Like, you a foe, that would involve guys. Actually, actually, I have a theory. Okay, here you, completely ridiculous alien piffle. That's a crap. I'm alien piffle. I have no idea where that came from. So, I have a theory just then. So, that last one sounded like a crap to I'm alien piffle. I have no idea where that came from. So I have a theory just then.

Starting point is 00:25:45 So that last one sounded like a crap to me. It did. Yeah, but it looks like one too. I have a theory though as to why they would change a name. Okay. Because they're slated. They've already announced this by the way. The government has already announced,

Starting point is 00:25:59 I believe if I'm not mistaken in the next year or two, that they're gonna release release a whole shitton of information that's been classified on UFOs. Under UFOs. Now they have to reclassify it so they can still hold that secret. No, I think they're going to change the name because people now associate UFOs with fake conspiracy theories and I think they're going to release stuff and they're going to say they exist.

Starting point is 00:26:24 That's what I think. It's like we got to change the name. UFO now says the negative connotation. Okay, so not explained to me why, okay, I just read that China has plans of creating an artificial moon that's just supposed to like, oh I heard that. Yeah, it's supposed to like go over this one city and light it up. What's the point of that? I have no idea, I'm trying to figure this out.

Starting point is 00:26:47 No, that reminds me of a movie where they create an artificial moon. Like it keeps getting bigger and then it has a laser on it. You know, it blows the stuff. We're gonna call it the Death Star. Yeah. It'll be flying over the earth. Like, honestly, what are we doing?

Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, crazy stuff. That's a real thing. I'm not just like throwing that on my ass. That's actually true. And then speaking of which, apparently there's new stuff coming out that is connecting. Now it's becoming more mainstream

Starting point is 00:27:16 that potentially the coronavirus did come from the Wuhan lab. Do you guys remember when that was like, if you just said that, everybody was like, you were conspiracy theorist, you're a conversation conspiracy theorist, your relationship. The entire relationship. Yeah, there's a lot of mainstream people now

Starting point is 00:27:28 that are saying there's more evidence that indicates that that's actually where they came from. Right. Well, I mean, are we ever gonna get resolved with the origin of it? It's just like, that's pipe dreams. And really doesn't matter other than just putting the blame on somebody.

Starting point is 00:27:43 Of course it matters. I mean, the world wants to know other than putting the blame on somebody. Somebody's got to take responsibility. That makes a big difference, right? Because if we put the blame, if China says, or we find out that we don't want to replicate it again, right?

Starting point is 00:27:57 Well, that they came from their lab, now they could potentially be held responsible for all the problems and damage that it's caused. Yeah. Obviously it's a big dark, and damage that it's caused. Obviously, it's a bad mark against them. And then, if it's proven, we're gonna not want to know how did you make it? What was it combined with, which will give us even more

Starting point is 00:28:16 information was involved in funding this? Yeah, but don't you think if they knew that, they would have made the cure for themselves over there Don't you think that was if they not if they weren't planning on releasing it like that's a different story I don't think anyone saying that they totally different like it tried to release it. Yeah, if it's under the assumption It was an accident, you know like and we keep going in that direction like but we haven't got anywhere with that like There's still a lot of pushback. Mm-hmm. So yeah, I'd like to see more like WHO and then really getting in there investigating. Yeah, see what's happened.

Starting point is 00:28:47 Hey, speaking of which, you know what, so my cousin got married this weekend and it was the first like actual family function where there were more than five people. It was a huge right, it's still small. This is the second one, you've got it up twice now. The wedding? No, that you've got together with a bunch of families.

Starting point is 00:29:04 Yes, but this was like much bigger. So not huge, but much bigger. So I got to see cousins and stuff that I haven't seen for a year and a half at least. Yeah. And it was nice, man. It was really nice to see everybody was so emotional and everybody's all dooted up and dressed up.

Starting point is 00:29:21 Everybody was good. I had the baby there. And so everybody got to be the baby. He was so cool. Did you see that? The little bow tie on it. It was really good. But anyway, I had the baby there, and so everybody got to be the baby. He was so cool. Did you see that, the little bow tie on it? It was really good. But anyway, so you know what, okay, so I was supposed to talk about Mir,

Starting point is 00:29:30 so check this out, right? So I was driving up there, it's about two and a half hour drive, and I always put water in my, water in a cup or whatever, and drive up with it. And I brought a, I didn't bring my Mir cup,

Starting point is 00:29:43 I had some other cup that I found that's also supposed to be insulated. Yeah. I don't know what mere does, but they're way more effective at keeping the temperature. It's almost, it's almost too effective because I had hot tea this weekend in my mere cup and I had to, you know, I made it, put it on

Starting point is 00:30:01 and then this is actually when I was watching the movie upstairs, right? And I burnt a shit at the top of the roof of my mouth because it had been sitting there for like 10 minutes. I had like forgot about it. I was eating, I was watching TV. And then I reached over to Grav and I just assumed because it had been sitting there for a while

Starting point is 00:30:14 that it would cool down like temperature to where I could drink the hot tea. Burn the shit out of me. So I had to do the same with the soup. Yeah, because you got to let it breathe. Yeah, it was like, it holds the temperature. But you're hot. So breathe. It holds the tip of your tongue. It's so good. Yeah, because the other one I had,

Starting point is 00:30:27 because it's hot up there, hotter than it is here typically, and I go to drink my water, and it was warmer. It was warmer with the mere one. I get leave it in there forever. I open it up, and holy cow, this is still cold. Dude, so what's the deal?

Starting point is 00:30:41 Because I have a Yukon, and then also have like a truck, a Denali truck and the cup holders are different cause I could fit that mug that that mirror has for coffee and I could fit it just fine in my truck but I can't fit it in the Yukon. Oh weird. Yeah, and it's like why are they different sizes?

Starting point is 00:31:01 This is piss me off. I didn't even know that. Yeah, I, you know, cause I'm trying to think right now, my truck versus the- Which one's bigger? The truck. I would, I'm wondering if they are, because they're, they're hitting a different market.

Starting point is 00:31:14 Maybe, you know? Yeah, one's more family, more likely to be driven by both male and female family type of vehicle versus the truck, which is the guy who's got a very nice, very nice, very nice, yeah. I would assume so, because you know what I noticed too, is that? But you would think same company,

Starting point is 00:31:29 you would think they would have like a very, it would make sense to have, because when you look at like most of the trucks, the Ucons of it, like a lot of the parts are interchangeable. So you, it would be make sense to make everything similar. So if something broke or what about it, it's easy. Well, here's a good, it's have a separate mold for two different.

Starting point is 00:31:43 Well, here's a good question, is the turning radius, the same between the two. No, I mean the tracks got worse. Well, no, it doesn't. I mean it's harder. Well, it's a Denali, the Denali has the, it's a bigger vehicle.

Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah, it's harder for me. Like it, well Denali has the dual turn on it. Oh, it does. Yeah, it's easier. So here's the, so because we have a suburban, and I'm always shocked at the crazy turning radius that it has.

Starting point is 00:32:10 And then it's got all the sensors and everything. And so I'm thinking, like obviously they designed this for a family person. Yeah, that's way easier to park. Yeah, for like soccer moms and dads and stuff, because it drives like a car. But not maybe not necessarily with trucks. Yeah, so that would be my theory as to why.

Starting point is 00:32:25 You know, you know, whatever. I bought some Snapchat last week and it's, Wait, what do you mean? What do you mean? Yeah, the stock. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:32:36 I don't know. I don't know, because this is like one of those things. So my buddy, who's a day trader, like we're always like talking stuff, and I love him to death, he's my best friend, but he fucking pisses me off so much. We grown up since we were kids together, and he's like trying to really,

Starting point is 00:32:52 he's trying to leave being a principal and become like a full-time day trader, but he never shares tips like what he's learned or what he's, like he's that guy who's like, I did all my homework and research on this, so you don't deserve to get the information that I have put together, right? Wow, it's so nice to be here.

Starting point is 00:33:10 I know. He's like, here's a crumb. No, and I'm the opposite. I'm the friend who's like, if I learn, I'm sharing it as I learn. I learn something, I like, try and tell my friends, maybe they can compound on that together. We like, together we win.

Starting point is 00:33:21 So anyways, we did get on this stock thread talking and he said that he was buying Snap. And so for like the first time ever, he was like, yeah, I really like what I'm gonna hold for at least six months. I like what I see that's coming up. But he's even then, he doesn't give me disclose everything. He just says he likes it. So I get on there, I see, I look at their last,

Starting point is 00:33:41 their 52 week trend and they're kind of like in the middle, lower in so like, okay, I like that. Plus I know we talked about snap a while back and knew where their their user base was growing And so I actually bought it for Max so in his portfolio So I bought a bunch of snap and to this morning I'm reading articles that come out which was awesome that They're up to 500 million users and they're about to move into the e-commerce space big time So listen to how they're doing this. This is fucking brilliant. So remember how we talked about,

Starting point is 00:34:10 I told you guys about how there's companies now they're starting like the whole virtual clothes and stuff. So they're gonna, you're through their app, you're gonna be able to like try on clothes. And then it'll be directly connected to the businesses so you can buy it. So you can like shop. You can do their filter, you have a name,

Starting point is 00:34:26 you can watch it. Very smart. Yes. How very smart. Isn't that brilliant? That is very smart. I know. I thought that was so cool.

Starting point is 00:34:34 So they're moving hard into that space. Their user base is up to 500 million. So they're growing and so already the stock is up since last week. That's very interesting. And I think it's going to go in a run for a while. So those that are listening to it. Well speaking of stuff like that, the cryptos are still getting hammered.

Starting point is 00:34:49 Like their value is getting destroyed right now. Now be fair because we got context, wait a little context here. They're still way higher than they were a couple years ago. Right. And you see historically, it'll plummet, come back up, plummet, whatever. But there, I mean, I think as of right now, I believe there are 37,000. I'll tell you what, though, you know what scares me to death about it? Who are we just talking about that? What's the guy, Snowden?

Starting point is 00:35:13 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I sent you the video on that, right? So I have, like, because everyone's jumping on the whole crypto bandwagon and buying like crazy. I know I've been a fan of it since the beginning, talking about it. But I tell you what, one of the things that's supposed to be so great about

Starting point is 00:35:28 is the privacy, and he's like, he's like, they haven't solved that yet. You know, when he's talking about is the platforms that you buy in trade crypto, coin base or whatever. And you're right, that would be a huge Achilles heel because he, a lure for a lot of people, is exactly that. Now the other a lure is that it's not a inflated, it doesn't inflate itself, right?

Starting point is 00:35:50 There's a very controlled release of Bitcoin. And it was supposed to be a great way to hedge against the dollar, which seems to right now, obviously be not true, right? Because the dollar is getting hammered and so is crypto. Crypto's also getting hammered. So I don't know. But it is interesting. And I was looking at both sides, right?

Starting point is 00:36:10 So you got Peter Schiff, who's like super anti crypto, of course, he's pro gold, all that stuff. And he's like, you know, he's having a hay day right now making fun of all the crypto people. But then I saw a chart with the performance of cryptos like Bitcoin and he's like this of this is what happens

Starting point is 00:36:26 There's lots of corrections ups and downs, but it's still way higher than it was, you know a few years ago So you know hang tight buy on the dip. That's the hashtag right now buy on the tips Well, what's the what's the prediction? I've heard people are saying as low as 10 that to come all the way down to I mean We'll see we'll see what happens. I know it's been some pretty. It's another country's that like block it. Yes, that's the problem. That's the problem I'm worried about. Well, that's what made, that's what caused this last big dip right now. China blocked it.

Starting point is 00:36:51 China banned their banks. And then Tesla, yeah, announcing that. Yeah, because if, let's say the US came out and said, that's it, Bitcoin is illegal. Well, that would hammer the price. Yeah. Bitcoin. I think there's always going to be value on the black market for it, but as far as being mainstream, I don't think it's gonna be difficult to trade.

Starting point is 00:37:10 No, it has to do with all the news that came out with inflation lately too, because I know that there's a lot of stuff going on. Well, that's what I'm saying. It should have done better because of that. Remember, historically, people said Bitcoin is a good hedge against inflation, because it doesn't get inflated. It's a controlled release. You have to mind.

Starting point is 00:37:28 Really weird that it would dip right now then when all that news is coming up. Well, about the inflation. Remember, the value is also based off of its demand. How much people want it. And the demand went down because of consumers got scared. Yeah, because consumers got scared. Well, that's what I mean by the inflation. A lot of the other reactions to inflation is people holding on to their money and freaking out.

Starting point is 00:37:47 Sure, I'm saying. So that could be why. I mean, everybody was spending money like crazy lately and then everybody gets this news that we're, oh my God, we're inflating it such a fast rate in comparison, normally we're training it like two something percent. It just reports came out saying we're like 4.2 or something. And it's going to probably go on.

Starting point is 00:38:03 Which by the way, I heard that number is a little bit skewed because they base it off of prior year that month. And last year, this exact month was like one of the worst months we've ever had. It was flat line because of COVID. You mean in terms of production of products? Yes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:19 If you have low supply. That's right. So everything kind of froze. So we had like this. So it looks so dramatic because now we're on the kind of the rebound right now Economically, we're seeing that we're seeing where the rise come back right and like everything starting to look good People are so buying we're getting jobs again and because it's on the rise and last year at this month It was just like a weird flatline. It looks so it looks like inflation is worse than what it really is

Starting point is 00:38:42 This will be a good question to ask You know our Peter Litteman. Yeah, who's going to be on the show? I want to ask him all these questions because, okay, and here's the thing, by the way, inflation has, that we've changed the meaning of inflation. Inflation historically, economically, has always meant an increase in the money supply.

Starting point is 00:38:59 It has not meant prices were higher. It just meant that the money supply went up. Price is going higher is not what inflation historically has meant. So have we been seeing inflation? Yes, we've seen massive inflation. The money supply has increased dramatically. But here's the problem.

Starting point is 00:39:17 And I saw Peter Schiff talking about this, and it makes perfect sense. It reminds me of the minimum wage arguments that sometimes people make. Is we don't know what the prices we're going to do before the money supply got inflated. So if we see, let's say the print, trillion dollars, and then we're like, that inflation didn't happen, prices went up half a percent. What we don't know is if prices would have gone down to percent or whatever. So just like if we, you know, change minimum wage and they say, oh, no, we

Starting point is 00:39:52 still added jobs, we don't know the jobs that could have been added. So it's hard to, it's hard to come up with a specific number because what, because we've increased our innovation, our productivity, we may have been in a situation where not only do we not get a little bit of increase in price, but maybe the prices would have gone down a lot of things because of the productivity and the innovation that we introduced. Those are really good points that he made, I thought.

Starting point is 00:40:18 I'm excited to have Peter Lemo. Yeah, I'm curious too. I was talking to my friend about this and how lumber and everything's up like 200% You know and just like the materials and raw materials for things right now are through the roof And you know just thinking about that like people that own like tree farms and whatnot I mean that's that's like crazy right now. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, be interested in looking that. Yeah, so market I'm still I still think to one of the crazy stats that I heard and it was when I listened to Peter

Starting point is 00:40:46 let him talk about what the average savings is right now as far as what people have in their bank accounts. Is it higher? It's higher than it was before. Three times, it's three times higher. So it's, you know, people have the money right now. There's more money in bank accounts right now. Now is it comparing it to pre-2008?

Starting point is 00:41:02 Is that, I'm assuming that's the number he's... No, it's comparing it to the last three decades in a row. Oh, well that's good. So most people, on average, I want to say it was, and I brought this up in the podcast before, so you can go back and reference the number that's probably more accurate. I believe it was like two or $3 trillion

Starting point is 00:41:21 at all times is like in bank accounts. Wow. And right now it's like nine. So there's money to be spent and there's people, and which is part of why I think we see the spike and not only real estate, you see, I have debt gone up. No, there's not more people that are getting it, going out to get loans for houses and things like that.

Starting point is 00:41:44 That's good. Staying in this similar rate. Yeah, that's very good then. Well, that's why a lot of people don't think this is a bubble. People that are saying like, it's not like we have this massive number of people that are going and getting home loans. And a lot of these people, and a lot of these people are putting 20 plus percent down on it, which was completely different than what we saw. Well, it's okay here, and obviously we talk about here because we live here and it's

Starting point is 00:42:05 always crazy, the prices of houses and all that stuff. The rental market is crazy too, right? I'm trying to find a place to move. Yeah, by the way, did you get that or not? I don't know, I haven't heard yet. So here, this is what's weird about it, is I go to rent a place and I'll inquire and say, we're interested, we'd like to take a look and they're like, oh, we're getting offers already.

Starting point is 00:42:23 Before anybody even looks at them. And they're bidding the price up of rent. Yeah. I'm so annoyed. I know you send me the house and I was like, did you bid over? Like, I was like, first thing I said to you because that's how, I mean, it was that way for Katrina and I when we were looking for places.

Starting point is 00:42:39 Like, I mean, I would have, when I would send over, I'd be like, I'm an 800-something score, I'm willing to pay six months in advance, I'll pay you $200 over, like you had to do shit like that to get to play. So that's how crazy it is. I know, I know. So annoying. It's extremely frustrating.

Starting point is 00:42:54 Okay, so you know the episode that we dropped recently on woke fitness, right? So it's crushing, right? People are, I'm getting DMs, people are asking, or you know, making a lot of comments on it. So I was thinking yesterday on how you could use that kind of woke philosophy to, to sell being fit because you could use that philosophy any way you want. That's what's wonderful about it. So I politicians love it. Because I can take it and I could use it and twist it

Starting point is 00:43:20 and then sell you, you know, whatever idea. Yeah, I have to explain where you're going. So how can we take that woke kind of, you know, philosophy and tell people that you need to be lean and fit? So I came up with some interesting tips. So here's one right here. This is why you shouldn't be overweight. It's bad for climate change. Here's why. That's because the amount of carbon that your car produces

Starting point is 00:43:45 because you're extra weight per year, for your lifetime, that plane's produced. because the amount of carbon that your car produces, because you're extra weight per year, for your lifetime, that plane's produced. Packaging and all that, you know, from just eating, all the wrappers, you're throwing all the food that you're eating is a result of it. You are polluting more because there's more of you. So you are contributing to climate change.

Starting point is 00:44:01 All the methane gas. If you're overweight, so when people say to you, they're super into saving the environment, and if they're obese, you can tell them to full of crap because they are actually contributing to climate change. Here's another one. You're eating more than your fair share, right? So there's two.

Starting point is 00:44:19 We all should be eating our fair share of food. I mean, literally the same. Yeah, and if you're, if you're, we're all, we all should be. And if you're overweight, like, hey man, you're eating more than your fair share of food. Like that food should be giving to someone else. Did you write all these down? I did. Here's another one.

Starting point is 00:44:35 Here's another one. You're giving too much money to evil corporations. There's just these evil corporations. Why are you spending so much money with the Biscoe and General Mills? Don't you know how bad they are? Yeah, grow your own food. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's the weakest thing to do.

Starting point is 00:44:48 And then here's another one, you're using up more than your fair share of healthcare. You gotta leave some of that healthcare for people who need it. Oh, that's it. So there you go. How you do an Instagram post to see how that does. Yeah, oh, I mean, it's obviously tongue in cheek. It's good, right? But I just, to go to the show, you could use that philosophy.

Starting point is 00:45:04 However you want, and you can make it very effective. Oh my God. So there you go, fitness for the woke people. So Justin, I saw you take a bunch of the mellow from the back. You said you were going to have a Courtney try. Yeah, I just grabbed a few more, so you can blame me for that. But like, this has been the most effective thing that she's used in order to, it's like a sleep aid. So, you know, not just like that feeling of like calm

Starting point is 00:45:30 and all that before bed, but like, honestly, she's been getting really good deep sleep for it and it's been a little bit under the weather. So, you know, this has been like a life saver. What's your theory on that cell? Cause I'm having the same experience with this. Like literally, I know, like, like, most of the commercials when we've talked about net, I've brought this up

Starting point is 00:45:48 and I'm not overselling it for my, it's literally everything that we've ever used, product-wise. It's that effective. It becomes something I use almost every single night now. Do you think it's because I'm deficient? You think that's why. Because I don't, I mean, I have heard lots of people getting similar effects, but then I've had some

Starting point is 00:46:07 of my family members, I've let them try it, and they're like, oh yeah, I kindness let better. Like it's noticeably different. Yeah, like what is it about magnesium? That's specifically too, because like, that's definitely something that she noticed. She's like, man, I must be deficient in it. Yes, that's what it is right there.

Starting point is 00:46:20 So there's nothing in net, so there's net sleep. So they have a product called net sleep. Now that'll make you tired. That'll make you sleepy. And it doesn't matter if you're deficient, whatever, the stuff in net sleep will just make you... It knocks you out. That's how I use every now and then.

Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, that's like, now mellow has got magnesium, but it's got forms of magnesium that have been, the only forms that have been shown to cross the blood-brain barrier and to get absorbed, because there's a lot of magnesium products that are out there, but they're so poorly absorbed that you're essentially taking a laxative. Like I used to take one and it was a powder

Starting point is 00:46:54 and I would take it, you know, and I would get this kind of laxative effect. And when I learn more about magnesium, I realize that that's really the only benefit of this commonly, these common magnesium products You need to get a form of magnesium that your body actually absorbs so if you're deficient Then you will get profound effects from taking Ned Mellon and it also has gab in there, which is also something that's yeah relaxes you can sleep relaxes the brain, but that's what that's the reason so now. Why would you be deficient in magnesium?

Starting point is 00:47:24 a lot of us are but that's the reason. So now why would you be deficient in magnesium? A lot of us are stressed. Over 60% right? Yeah, so stress is a big one. We don't get lots of magnesium in our food and if we supplement with magnesium, it tends to be the shitty versions of magnesium that you don't absorb.

Starting point is 00:47:38 So if, and here's the thing, because it's not like a sleep aid, like other products, right? You could take it every single day. Whereas with the other stuff that makes you sleepy, although those are very effective and have value, if you take them every single day, you may cause yourself to have a dependency.

Starting point is 00:47:55 That's another thing I noticed too. I don't feel it. I think when I first brought it up, I was like, oh, I was trying to like use it as little as possible because I was afraid that like my body would adapt to it. And I'm trying to get all dependent. Yeah, and then I thought I'd have to keep scaling up, scaling up to get that same effect. It's not like that. No.

Starting point is 00:48:10 I take one packet of it. I take it almost every single night. It works exactly the same every single night. It's not, I don't feel like it dipping off or anything like that. It is amazing. Yeah. The only way you would feel like it's not as effective anymore is if your magnesium now demands have been met. In which case, you would just be more relaxed and calm anyway. You see what I'm saying

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Starting point is 00:49:57 First question is from GeorgieRX. What are the best exercises for your back for its width and thickness? Oh, you know what we have thickness? Who I don't know who picked this, but this is a good time to... Yeah, so I know exactly the regalins, exactly what I picked. I am fucking so mad. So it gets me so mad when I see these guys that are like, they want to discredit the deadlift

Starting point is 00:50:18 for the back. And it annoys me so much because I understand traditionally, I understand biomechanically i get it i get it that the deadlifts isn't that's right it's a hip-hands movement i get it it's it's primarily hamstring and glutes again more but i tell you what uh... anybody and everybody that i've got to to to to load the deadlift and work on that always sees a huge improvement and And personally, if everything that I've done, lifting wise, nothing grew the thickness and size of my back like deadlifting.

Starting point is 00:50:53 100%. Even in body building, and this, you know what it comes from? This argument, there's two places it comes from. One, it's the biomechanic, you know, PhDs, right? Where the one that has like the muscle activation sensor. Yeah, or there's like, oh no, it's hip-in-ging, so therefore, whatever. So they have really no experience with the exercise.

Starting point is 00:51:10 Then the other people that tend to protest this are the body builder types, where everything is about, you know, isolating and contracting, and this is, you know, whatever. But I'll tell you what, even with the body building world, some of the best backs of all time and bodybuilding came from tremendous deadlift, right? Ronnie Coleman.

Starting point is 00:51:28 Ronnie Coleman. It's still known as the best back in bodybuilding ever. Franco Colombo, obviously from the 70s. I mean, by the way, Franco Colombo, look it up, in the 70s. He was lifting cars. Okay, in the 70s, you had bodybuilders that had like body parts that really stood out.

Starting point is 00:51:43 This was before, like you have now, where bodybuilders just had like body parts that really stood out. This is before, like you have now, where bodybuilders are just crazy looking all the way around. Franco's back was on another planet. He had like a back of like a 90s bodybuilder in the 70s. He was a huge deadlifter. And what you can see from people who deadlift a lot, typically is that mid column of muscle, right? I'm talking about the canal.

Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, the spine and maybe like from the outside of the spine like this. You just see this thick muscle that you end up building from the deadlift. So in my opinion, the deadlift is by far. It gives this three-dimensional look to your back. And I mean, looking like when you unpack it and you think about it, I mean, we talk about

Starting point is 00:52:21 the benefits of isometrics all the time. And in order to keep the back from flexing or extending, that all those muscles that support the spine all the way down are, and they're not only are they working and activity, but you're most people like deadlift, they can deadlift way more than they can lap pull down, row, or do anything else significantly more. It's the heaviest back exercise you could possibly do. Exactly. So this idea that it's not a back exercise to me, it's like, okay, it's not only a back exercise, it's very much so a hamstring and glute dominant type of movement.

Starting point is 00:52:53 I'm not denying that whatsoever. But if you want an exercise that's good and you, especially if you don't, heavy dead lift, that's where you're really, now if you already kind of deadlift and you're like, hey, I'm looking for other great exercises for my back, or we can talk about the row, we can talk about the lat pull down, we can talk about other great movements. But if you are not a major dead lifter and you're looking for a great exercise to develop the back, especially the thickness and the like the three-dimensional look to a back, heavy deadlift. It does, and it acted by the way, it doesn't just activate the muscles of that thick, you know, part like you were saying next to the spine.

Starting point is 00:53:26 Lats are having to stabilize. The lat, not just stabilize. Like when you start with the deadlift, you, and you stand up, you are getting this, this, you know, this, this, this adducting effect with the, with the humorous too, because you're starting out here, when you stand up, your arms are by your sides.

Starting point is 00:53:40 It's not a huge lat movement, but you are getting the lat, to not just activate, but also move a lot of Romboids are involved, right? Your scapulas because here's the thing with the deadlift with the deadlift, although you want to keep a neutral spine You're scapula round at the bottom, especially when it's really heavy and that's perfectly safe by the way So when they say no back rounding with the referring to the low back that you want to keep very neutral But the upper back come round a little bit

Starting point is 00:54:06 Especially the scapula then you stand up and you're scouting right and then you're upright So crazy rhomboid activation crazy trap activation. So for thickness is there's no exercise in my opinion that comes close now With when people talk about with with the referent through the lats, the lats hang on the sides of the body, and when those develop, they build out. So you get this V-shaped to your body. I can't think of a better exercise than pull-ups. Yeah, weighty pull-ups. All those variations, right?

Starting point is 00:54:36 So in my favorite, I think general lat, excuse me, with exercise would be a neutral grip or even a kind of a supinated grip pull up. I like wide grip too, but the range of motion is a little shorter. And for some people wide grip pull ups are just, you can go a lot heavier too on a neutral grip. Yeah, they're just not, you know, super great.

Starting point is 00:54:58 Other exercises for thickness, barbell rows, dumbbell rows. Like there's, there's your movements right there. It's going to give you that kind you that 3D look to your back. But if you're not deadlifting, practice deadlifting, get good at deadlifting, put them in your routine once a week, get strong at them. Oh, by, oh, forget to say, take a before picture. Do it for six months, take an after picture.

Starting point is 00:55:19 I dare you to show me that you didn't make a tremendous change in the way your back looks. Next question is from Zellin Castiott. How much and when should you drink creatine in order to use it to its maximum potential? I love the creatine questions because it's proven to be aside from supplements that will meet some kind of nutrient deficiency. Besides that, there is no supplement that comes close to, in terms of proven benefits to creating. It's the most studied, eryogenic supplement. There's got to be, I don't know, thousands of well-done studies on it. It used to be thought that

Starting point is 00:55:57 creating just improved strength and muscle growth, but now we know it improves cognitive performance. It's got antioxidant properties. It helps with heart health. It may help with to to testosterone production. It may help with bone density. So it's just this incredible supplement that I think a lot of people could benefit from. I remember our coaches were super worried about it. Like it was some kind of like anabolic steroid that we had to be a, you know, about it, like it was some kind of like anabolic steroid that we had to be, you know, we had to be concerned with and we had people come in and talk to us about it and like finding out who's using it because it was effective. It was one of those supplements that actually had, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:36 like you actually had something, you know, positive as a result, especially strength-wise that we noticed, you know, from taking it. But yeah, it's the most studied, it's the most recognized in terms of, like, it's benefits. And I think the exciting part is the cognitive stuff and the wellness aspects of it that we're just recently finding out. That's what I'm most interested in that. Do you think that we're going to see that? Do you think, you know, your health and wellness people are going to be promoting creatines? It's already happening. Are you saying that? Yeah, so people that I know in the wellness space that are in the up and up, who tend you know, your health and wellness people are gonna be promoting creatine. It's already happening. Are you sure?

Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, so people that I know in the wellness space that are in the up and up, who tend to be the first ones to put things, they'll sell supplements that are for health and you'll see now there'll be like a few ingredients and one of them will be creatine monohydrate. And these are wellness supplements. So they're not even selling them to people who are trying to get bigger and stronger. They're selling them to people who want to improve their overall health. Because remember, creatine, it increases ATP. Okay, so an ATP is produced by the mitochondria of your cells, all the mitochondria of your

Starting point is 00:57:35 cells, those are the cells powerhouse. So creatine literally on a cellular level, because you've heard in the wellness space a lot that the, that it's so important to improve mitochondrial health right if you're mitochondria healthy cancer risk goes up your you age faster you feel worse so we got to make the mitochondria healthy healthy creatine is part of that it'll improve the health of your mitochondria so yeah it's already and they're even starting to include it in some of these formulas for geriatrics. So these, like, what are they called, the homes,

Starting point is 00:58:08 where they put, where people are in homes? Yeah, like retirement homes. They are starting to use creatine to improve function and health. Like muscle sparing or what? Muscle sparing, cognitive cognition is the big one. Heart health is another big one. They're noticing that when people take creatine,

Starting point is 00:58:29 they're... Well, they have an interest cellular fluid. Does that help too with joint pain? I would think a little bit. That's a good question. I haven't seen anything like that. Now, the dose is three to five grams. Is that what it is?

Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah, traditionally, it's five grams, but I just read a study that showed that people got great benefits from two grams. Just taking two grams a day, every single day, and they got really, really good. Now most, all your supplements that be the powder form or pill, or they are in five gram doses. Yes.

Starting point is 00:58:59 Most of them. So normally what I would tell clients is three to five, and I'd say like, you could do three if you're already like a heavy steak eater, or you eat a lot you could do three if if you're already like a It's a heavy stake either right you eat a lot of red meat or if you don't have red meat Then you probably don't need five Otherwise you could probably take the serving size of five every day and you're fine Yeah, there's that and then there's the how much muscle mass you carry so the more like if you're a very small petite person

Starting point is 00:59:20 Then less creatine you would be fine. Oh interesting So I wonder what so what about somebody who's like a massive bodybuilder then then then they would need fine. Oh, interesting. So I wonder what, so what about somebody who's like a massive bodybuilder? Then they would need to take five or maybe even 10. Oh, yeah. Because that's where you're storing a lot of this is in the muscle. So this is why back in the day.

Starting point is 00:59:35 So I wonder, do you have any idea what most of the studies are done on like what size? No, all the studies will do five grams. No, no, no, no, like what type of person? Because if your studies are showing five grams and No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So that's usually what you see. When you read studies, those are the people that volunteer for studies or college A's guys they need 50 bucks. They need 50 bucks. Yeah, the same ones that are signing up for like you know like don't ring their body to science to get paid like a hundred bucks. Yeah, we're getting injected with some weird thing. They're core risks and they get 50 bucks. Totally. So yeah, but the more recent studies showed two grams with everyday people,

Starting point is 01:00:26 including athletes, had great benefits. So I think five grams is fine. There's no, all the studies I've been done on creating, actually not all of them, most of them were five grams. None of them showed adverse effects, right? So you're fine taking five, but I don't think most people even need five, especially if you're not like, you don't have like a ton of muscle. And like you said, if you eat a lot of food that, you know, that contains creatine. And then what they used to say back in the day, and some companies will say this is, do a loading phase of 20 grams a day for like a week and then go to five grams.

Starting point is 01:00:58 And what this does is it gets your, your stored creatine levels, if you will, up faster. Cause once you get up to a certain level, then what you're doing is just maintaining that. But to get it up faster, you could take more. I disagree with that. I don't think that's necessary. There's a waste of creatine. Plus it's harsh on your stomach.

Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah, I don't think that's a whole loading phase thing. I think two to five a day. That's it. And I don't even take it every day. I take five grams and I take it five days a week. Saturday and Sunday, usually don't take it. Next question is from Sebastian Ortiz. You guys talk a lot about building muscle to speed up the metabolism to make fat loss easier. However, I have heard that this doesn't matter because as you build more muscle and increase your

Starting point is 01:01:39 metabolism, you just keep getting hungrier, making the fat loss just as hard compared to where you were at before. What are your thoughts on this? Let's terrible advice. Yeah, and whoever gave that to you. Yeah, and it doesn't matter. Okay, so there's a couple of things that we have to clarify on. There's healthy hunger, and then there's a relationship with food where you have cravings, which is very different.

Starting point is 01:02:02 You can have cravings because you're stressed or because when I watch a movie, I always eat a bowl of popcorn with a lot of butter or I'm upset or I get triggered by food, I'm at a party. And we all know this. How many times do we eat in foods that trigger us, even though we're full? Like, oh, I'm stuffed, but there's some chocolate.

Starting point is 01:02:23 I'm gonna go through it on that chocolate. Real hunger is healthy. There's nothing wrong with real hunger. And the reason why you're hungry here in the real sense, in the healthy sense, when you build muscle is exactly because your body is fueling this muscle. It's fueling this fat burning machinery.

Starting point is 01:02:41 Not only that, but, you know, I know studies will show that every pound of muscle, they'll say, oh, it only burns in extra 10 calories, which still isn't trivial. You're getting five pounds, it's 50 calories a day. You do the math, that equals a decent amount per year. But it's not that simple. The metabolism's super complex,

Starting point is 01:02:57 and there's this range of efficiency and non-efficiency with calories. In other words, you can have a faster or slower metabolism with the same lean body mass. Building muscle through resistance training, not only are you building the muscle, but you're also telling you, especially if you feed your body, especially if you feed your body with high quality protein and good food, you're telling your body with the resistance training that it needs, it can, it can't, not only does

Starting point is 01:03:22 it have a faster metabolism because of the muscle, but it's also being less efficient with calories, meaning more calories are being burned for heat and for other purposes. So, and so here's, I would love your guys's, you know, stories on this, but I can't, I can't remember, I don't count this time. Clients would train with me. And after about six months or eight months of consistent resistance training, they'd be like, okay, this is really weird, but I'm eating more than ever. I'm so much hungry than I used to be, but I'm still getting leaner. This is really weird, like, what's going on? Like, like,

Starting point is 01:03:53 metabolism is roaring, but I'm eating more. I'm so much hungry. That's a good thing. Keep it going. Well, this is also a good goal, right? So this is actually, when I do this with clients, I'd say, listen, we're going to increase calories, our goals in a build muscle. I know you hired me to lose weight, but we're not going to get there yet. I want to speed your metabolism up. And so we're going to increase calories, try and build muscle. He said, well, how long?

Starting point is 01:04:15 I said, well, I'd like to get you to place. And by the way, this is very possible for whoever's asking this question for you to get to a place where it's actually hard to obtain all those calories. Yeah. And that is such a great place to then go where it's actually hard to obtain all those calories. And that is such a great place to then go, let's go the other way, the other direction now. So my goal when I would tell these clients, I'd say, well, I actually want to get you to a place where you look back at me, go, Adam, I'm just having a hard time getting all these

Starting point is 01:04:36 calories because we've, we've sped your metabolism out. Then I'd say, okay, cool. Don't worry about it. Then now I just want you to eat when you, when you feel like it, when you're hungry, eat, stay with course with the types of foods that we've been eating. You've naturally shaved down. And you naturally come down.

Starting point is 01:04:49 Another point to make too, okay? When we do shift gears to decide that we're going to cut and reduce body fat, feeling hungry is a very normal thing. It's okay, that's a normal, this is going to happen. When you are deciding you're going to lean out, you're going to be in a caloric deficit for days. Okay, you're going to be hungry. And that's part of this is getting comfortable

Starting point is 01:05:13 with that. A lot of times, you have the hunger and this craving thing hitting at the same time, and it's like this overwhelming feeling of like, oh, I'm craving and I'm hungry. And many times, when you just discipline yourself or go have a glass of water or go move, go for a walk for a little bit, it subsides.

Starting point is 01:05:29 And it passes a little bit and it's not so bad anymore. So you gotta learn to get comfortable with that feeling too. Now, I only want you getting comfortable with that feeling when you're at a very healthy place calorie wise. If you come to me and you go out of my room, I'm really hungry and I go, well, how many calories are you? Oh, I'm only eating 700 day. Okay, well, that's not a sustainable place for you to be. But if you tell me, you go out of my really hungry and go, well, how many calories do you mean? Oh, I'm only eating 700 day. Okay. Well, that's not a, that's not a sustainable

Starting point is 01:05:45 place for you to be. But if you tell me, man, I've had 2300 calories out of it. I'm still hungry. That's okay. We're in a cut face right now. It's totally normal. That's such a good point. Like, especially to be in a healthy place because I, you know, this is where I found a lot of benefit in deciphering between the two of having a craving versus hunger. And that was like to be, to refrain for like 24 hours and like, you know, do a fast where I could like, really see where my tendencies lied in terms of like, I would go someplace just because it was ritual

Starting point is 01:06:15 or, you know, I would have these things kind of pop up and these feelings pop up, but a lot of times it was cravings and then you can kind of like, you know, get through that and struggle through that. But to learn that about yourself, and like when you actually really are hungry, you know, a lot of times it's only gonna happen

Starting point is 01:06:32 when you're in a healthy place where you can build yourself up to that point where, you know, I eat good amount of food and I'm actually putting the work into which you feel that it's supplying, you know, that demand. I've also heard somebody describe, and I wish I remember who described it, they're going to say it, they said it probably way better than I'm going to say it right now, but there's a point where your body switches systems, right?

Starting point is 01:06:54 So it goes from utilizing sugar as its primary source of fuel glucose, right? So it's, if you're always being fueled and you're eating all the time and you're over consuming, it's going to use food, that's its main source of fuel. But if you're in a chloric deficit for a consistent period of time, the body then shifts over and then we'll start to metabolize fat. And that shifting over feeling sometimes creates that feeling of, oh, I'm hungry, that's the body transitioning.

Starting point is 01:07:16 So I used to tell clients like, listen, here's what's really cool. And let this help motivate you when you're sitting on the couch at seven o'clock at night and you kind of feel hungry. That, all of a sudden, you feeling that, and you know you ate that way all day, that's your body switching over now, and it's starting to metabolize fat.

Starting point is 01:07:33 And if you can just discipline yourself, not to go run to the court, the cupboards, and go, you know, pop a bunch of popcorn, or eat a bunch of snacks, because as soon as you do that, now the body switches over, it's gonna use that as fuel. But at that moment, you're sitting watching TV and your body's burning fat. You're not exercising, you're not lifting weights, you're just chilling and you're burning body fat.

Starting point is 01:07:52 But the moment you go over and you start to consume calories, then the body switches back over and is now going to use that food as fuel. Right. Now, you know, we all have been mentioning cravings, right? So here's a good way to discern craving versus hunger, right? So let's say you're gonna go eat lunch, and your friend says, hey, would you like to eat? And you're like, I don't know, and they say,

Starting point is 01:08:12 do you want Mexican food? And you go, I'm not in the mood for Mexican food. Well, what about Chinese, I'm not in the mood for Chinese. You know what I really would like. I really would like this thing. That's what I'm into right now, right? That's a craving, right? So true. Hunger is... Everything sounds good. Yeah, you know, this thing, you know, that's what I'm into right now, right? That's a craving, right? So true.

Starting point is 01:08:25 Hunger is... Everything sounds good. Yeah, you just want to eat. Yeah. Give me whatever it is. Yeah, so long as it's not repulsive, like hunger, I don't really care what we go on, just hunger it. I'd like to eat some food, so let's just...

Starting point is 01:08:34 Which, by the way, you'll notice that when you get to that point where you're truly hungry and you eat something, it's... It's all good. Yes, you're satisfied. Absolutely. It's a taste better. Now, back to you earlier, Adam, you said, clients would tell you, you know, you want to get to the point where they're like, I can satisfied. Absolutely. Absolutely. Tastes better. Now back to you earlier, Adam, you said clients would tell you, you know, you want to get to the point where they're like, I can't eat anymore. And someone listening

Starting point is 01:08:49 might be like, oh, that'll never happen to me. Okay. One caveat is the foods that you're eating, right? If they're unprocessed whole natural foods, then what Adam says will happen. If they're heavily processed foods, that might not happen because heavily processed foods are engineered to make you eat more. So you might think to yourself like 3000 calories a day, I could easily do that and you're thinking French fries and potato chips and you know, pizza. Well, yeah, now it's easy because you're eating foods that are hyper palatable, that are literally designed to make you overeat.

Starting point is 01:09:18 If you stick to whole natural foods, especially if your diet is high in protein, you will hit that point, especially with the protein. Like, I heard that on the regular from clients when they're like, I can't eat 130 grams of protein a day. I'm like, stuffed. Like, there's no way I could do that. But if I let them eat, you know, or if they ate heavily processed foods, yeah, then they're

Starting point is 01:09:39 going to be able to hit those calories and then some, no problem. Next question is from Lucy Brown 94. Any advice for refocusing your goals after moving away from team sports? Oh, good old team sports. You know, clients who did this, who were athletes, and then they would come, like maybe like 10 years ago, and then they would hire a trainer. They were really hard to train.

Starting point is 01:09:58 They're always hard to train. Very hard to train. They still have that athletic mentality. Yeah, I mean, this is, this kind of hits home a little bit just because like if you really identify as an athlete and something that like you have trained and gone through school and like you're just always in that in the mix of like I mean the off season, I'm an in season and this is just like one of those things like it's a really hard ritual to just all of a sudden give up and like turn course and now what do I do?

Starting point is 01:10:26 It's like it's this whole, like kind of a, it's a tough moment where you have to kind of reinvent yourself because you've put place so much of your identity in that direction, so I totally get it. Well, I think a lot of that has to do with in sports, there's such a mental aspect, right? Like, and you've been rewarded for pushing

Starting point is 01:10:46 beyond your limits in sports. So if you're, and it doesn't matter what sport, name a sport, any sport, right? And you training to that next level and overreaching all the time, actually benefits you most of the time, right? Unless you're doing something physically like weight training for your sports.

Starting point is 01:11:01 You're just crazy or what I'm saying. But the more you do of your sport, the better you get at your sport. And so you've been rewarded for that mentality. Well, when you're dealing with fat loss and muscle building, it's way more scientific. And there's a lot more that's coming into play here. And that same mentality doesn't reward you the same way.

Starting point is 01:11:24 And so it's really tough to make that switch of, I know that the harder I push, the more I do in sports, the better I am at that sport, that's not necessarily true with fat loss and building muscle. Yeah. And I have to think more long term, like that inhibits your progress at a certain point. That's what I had to figure out was like that train hard and leave it on the gym, kind of mentality. You just like your body changes over time too.

Starting point is 01:11:48 And so to be able to, you know, look at this and see what's the healthiest thing for me. And what what I really want to accomplish now sort of in the second half is, is, you know, like you have different priorities and you have to realize that like you have to train your body a different way in order to benefit you long-term with us. So I love taking, and of course, I'm just assuming or guessing where this person is at, but most people that were athletes before have this kind of high intensity,

Starting point is 01:12:16 keep it moving type of mentality when they wanna lift. And so I love taking them into like a strength phase with long rest periods, enforcing the rest periods. I love a program like our maps power lift because of that because it's very structured. It's got long rest periods in it. And it's still somewhat competitive. Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 01:12:36 So you're watching your weights go up. And so I like, they'll like that part of it. But then you got to really follow the structure of sitting there and resting for three minutes, which is like a lifetime for the athlete. The athlete who's used to running up and down the courts or up and down the field, constantly moving, constantly sweating like crazy, you may actually do these workouts

Starting point is 01:12:54 and not hardly break a sweat. And that's really tough for them to realize that that can still be a great work. Well, one of the biggest challenges that I encountered with people like this was they went from training for a particular competition or a goal to now I'm training just because I need to keep exercising and stay healthy. So it's like, what am I training for? Right? One of the reasons

Starting point is 01:13:18 why I might not recommend Maps Powerlift is because you might get the athlete who's then like, they're going to sign up for meets because I'm going to compete. Yeah, and it's a same mentality. I'm still an athlete that's going to compete in powerlifting. Here's the challenge. The challenge is, and this is a challenge for everybody. It's especially challenging with, um, with athletes is you need to exercise for the sake of exercising and you need to enjoy the workout for the sake of the workout, not necessarily because you're going to hit some target, because

Starting point is 01:13:46 if you continue to train your body with goals, or like, I need to hit this number, I need to do this run, because here's what I would see with these ex athletes, is they would sign up for a marathon, or a trathlete buddy, or a bodybuilding show, or a powerlifting competition, because they don't know how to train without a competition. And there's nothing wrong with competition, but athletes aren't the healthiest people in the world specifically because they're pushing their body to the limit. If you're done with that athletic period of your life and you just want to improve your health, you can't always do that.

Starting point is 01:14:21 And there's nothing wrong for signing up for things here and there. But if you caught up in that, you're going to hurt yourself, you're going to beat up your body. You can totally always do that. There's nothing wrong for signing up for things here and there. But if you caught up in that, you're gonna hurt yourself. You're gonna beat up your body. You can totally do it. You can totally reframe your workouts. And go through those types of lifts where you're just doing it because it makes your body feel good. Yes.

Starting point is 01:14:36 And you wanna come back to it because it's something that's almost therapeutic. But you maintain a lot of the skills and a lot of the abilities and a lot of the abilities and things by appropriately training your body. This is why I really got into mobility and I really took that on with competitive mentality because I knew that I wish I would have done all that stuff going into sports because I would have been such a better athlete.

Starting point is 01:15:02 But now it's like, I know it's gonna benefit me because I'm gonna feel good. Like my joints are gonna feel good. I'm gonna wake up in the morning. I'm gonna wanna throw the ball to my kids. I'm gonna wanna get up and go for a hike. And I just wanna do shit. Yeah, that's, and your opinion is real important here, Justin,

Starting point is 01:15:18 because I remember you telling me, because you went very high level with football. You competed in college and you played it. And then I remember you saying after you finished college football, you actually had a long period where you didn't work out at all. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Almost you didn't want to. What was the mentality? Why did you say, I don't want to do this for a little while? Yeah, I think it was just that I had always lived in the gym and I was always doing the hardest lifts I could possibly do. There was no in between.

Starting point is 01:15:43 Like I didn't really do it for those reasons like to really help my body feel good or to even for aesthetic purposes. Like I never had that mentality was always crush myself. And I just, I think I got to a point where I just was like I crushed myself. Like I was done. And so I just had to take a break.

Starting point is 01:16:01 And it was a good break, but it also made me like miss it. And I was just like, I don't feel good. My body's like just doughy and gross. And like I just, I was, I winded all the time and I was in pain and I'm just like, this isn't a way to live either. So yeah, you can be competitive still. You just gotta be competitive about different stuff, right?

Starting point is 01:16:20 So instead of like how much I'm lifting, how hard can I go? It's like how consistent can I be with adding yoga into my routine? How consistent can I be with my diet and compete with yourself to be better about this. I mean, I'm a want to be athlete, right? So I didn't go play college basketball or that that, but I've played sports my whole life and I've even played in adult leagues as I got older. And so I've always been that like that, that mindset I totally identify with.

Starting point is 01:16:44 And so there is some value to it. Like I mean, any athlete at all, especially if you reach higher levels, you've had to apply some serious discipline, competitiveness, like so you can do that, you just need to reframe it a little bit. It's, you need to back off the intensity and hammering yourself all the time and pushing that side of it and push the side of it with consistency and introducing or challenging yourself, right? Athletes love to challenge themselves.

Starting point is 01:17:08 So challenge yourself by doing a modality that you know is probably good for you, but you don't want to do. That's the challenge. Right. I mean, why I was so successful with my mobility journey the last couple of years is because I took that athletic mindset. I became competitive. I could do this seven times a day.

Starting point is 01:17:23 I knew that it wasn't going to hurt me to do mobility work seven times a day. Now, initially, when you do it, it's lame. It's not hard. It's not like what I'm used to as a sport, but I took that mentality and I applied it to something that I knew would benefit my body and I was competitive with myself. There are some great attributes to that athletic mindset. You just need to reshift it. Yeah, now there's one part that we're not talking about, which in my experience

Starting point is 01:17:49 was the hardest part to deal with with athletes, which was diet. Oh my God, was this hard with diet because because you're moving so much, you don't really have to account for it, you know, no big deal. Yeah, and they usually did the sport when they were in high school or college. So by the time that hire me, they're, you know, 10 years at a college, right? So they're 30s. So yeah, I was a competitive swimmer, D1 or whatever, or I was a competitive basketball player in high school. And they remember how they looked.

Starting point is 01:18:17 Oh, I was so fit when I did that. So I'm going to do what I did back then. And so what they do is they swim sometimes and they work out with me, but they're not really swimming twice a day or three times a day like they did in college. They're also not walking around the college campus to class from to class. And they're also not 20 years old.

Starting point is 01:18:31 They're also 15,000 steps a day. And then they eat like crazy and they don't, and their concept of appropriate portions is so skewed. I remember specifically, there was this woman that I trained and she was very, very high level athlete in college. In fact, she was an alternate for the World Cup

Starting point is 01:18:50 for soccer at one point. So she's super high level. And she's like, oh, it's crazy, Sal, she's like, I walk every day. I'm lifting with you twice a week, and I just can't get knee-leainer. And she's like, and I'm like, what are you eating? And she's telling me the foods, and I'm like,

Starting point is 01:19:04 oh, that sounds pretty good. And like, can you like, and I'm like, what are you eating? And she's telling me the foods and I'm like, oh, that sounds pretty good. And like, can you like send me a picture of like, what you're eating? She sends me a picture. I'm like, how much do you think that chicken breast weighs that you're showing me right there? She's like, I don't know, like, five ounces. I'm like, put it on the scale.

Starting point is 01:19:17 It's like a 12 ounce chicken breast. She's like, but this is what I used to eat. I'm like, okay, it's not like when you were, you know, doing double days in college and you were 20. So we had to like completely learn portion sizes because she was so used to eating these tremendous portion sizes as an athlete that I had to like get and it took a while, really hard.

Starting point is 01:19:36 This is why you see in some of those professional sports realms, the life expectancy is really low, you know, like leaving because of their, those types of habits and you can't maintain that, but you know, for some reason, like psychologically, we still kind of maintain the plate, the portion sizes, the, you know, it's just one of those things. Like, food is just ingrained.

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