Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1563: How to Permanently Kick a Sugar Addiction, the Exercises Best Suited for Higher Reps, the Most Effective Nootropics & More

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best nootropics according to price and effectiveness, how to quit a sugar addiction once and for all, the exerc...ises one should and shouldn’t do when doing low reps, and things that they preach but struggle to practice. Parenting differences between the guys and their spouses. (4:30) Mind Pump Debates: Miyagi-Do Dojo versus Cobra Kai, who is the true bad guy? (12:38) Attractiveness as a social construct. Do you agree or disagree? (14:43) Is this the beginning of the end for crypto? Joey Swoll is NOW giving out advice. (25:23) Jake Paul has signed with Showtime Boxing. What does this mean for the future of boxing? (30:17) Amazon acquires MGM Studios. (35:40) There is a spectrum to intelligence. (37:28) Mind Pump looking younger thanks to Caldera. (43:38) Check out Sal on some recent podcasts promoting his new book. (45:23) Are they preparing us for the end of the world? (47:07) #Quah question #1 – Can you guys go over nootropics and your personal experiences with them? (53:45) #Quah question #2 - How can I quit my sugar addiction once and for all? (1:01:57) #Quah question #3 - What exercises should we and shouldn’t do when doing low reps? (1:05:06) #Quah question #4 – What are things each of you preaches, but struggle to practice? (1:08:40) Related Links/Products Mentioned Mind Pump Store May Specials: MAPS Aesthetic & the Extreme Fitness Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “MAYSPECIAL” at checkout** Mind Pump #1560: Woke Fitness Is Making You Fat & Unhealthy The Relationship Between Waist-Hip Ratio and Fertility Joey Swoll: The Truth Behind Crypto, Dogecoin, and Elon Musk Jake Paul Signs Multi-Fight Deal with Showtime Boxing, Working On Opponent Amazon roars with multi-billion dollar purchase of MGM Studios Toddler admitted into American Mensa has an IQ of 146, makes history as youngest member Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** The Resistance Training Revolution – Book by Sal Di Stefano The Genius Life 171: How to Lose Fat, Smash Weight Loss Plateaus, and Age-Proof Your Body | Sal di Stefano Habits and Hustle Episode 117: Sal Di Stefano – Mind Pump Host, Top Fitness Podcast in the World Report: US Navy Has Tracked Underwater UFOs That Can Do Hundreds of Knots Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout* Strength training can help protect the brain from degeneration Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work – Book by Steven Kotler and Jamie Wheal Startup CEO says he was fired for microdosing LSD at work Mind Pump #1435: How To Kick Your Sugar Addiction In 5 Simple Steps Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Joey Swoll (@joeyswoll)  Instagram Brendan Schaub (@brendanschaub)  Instagram Jake Paul (@jakepaul)  Instagram Logan Paul (@loganpaul)  Instagram Floyd Mayweather (@floydmayweather)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Jen Cohen (@therealjencohen)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. You're listening to Mind Pump. Real quick, tomorrow our Memorial Weekend Special starts. So we have a kickoff summer bundle. This is an at-home workout bundle. So we have a kickoff summer bundle. This is an at home workout bundle.
Starting point is 00:00:26 So what it's included is suspension trainers, glute bands, and ab wheel. You also get a gym flag for 140 bucks. That's a pretty big discount off of retail. You can find them all at minepumpstore.com. All right, in today's episode, we answered fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience.
Starting point is 00:00:44 But we opened the episode with an intro portion where we talk about current events. We have debates. We talk about fun stuff. We talk about scientific studies. Here's what went down in the first intro portion, the 50 minute intro portion. After that, again, remember, we got to the question. So we open up by talking about parenting differences between us and our spouses. So we do have to some differences. Well, you're not listening. Yeah. We have plenty differences between us and our spouses. So we do have to some differences. Hopefully you're not listening. Yeah. We're right, by the way.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, I was right. Then we had a debate. Miyagi Doe versus Kobakai. Huh! Who are the good guys who are the bad guys? I think it's Miyagi Doe. We all know Kobakai. Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Anyway, then we talked about attractiveness as a social construct. I don't know. Somebody got a little annoyed with our woke fitness episode. I think we triggered them. You must be attracted to that. We talked to that person a little bit in that part of the episode.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Then we talked about crypto in particular, Joey Swole apparently is a crypto expert. Oh, it's worth a listen. We might need to sell our Bitcoin right now. Then we talked about how Jake Paul signed with Showtime. It's crazy what these guys are able to accomplish. Then we talk about how Jake Paul signed with Showtime. It's crazy what these guys are able to accomplish. Then we talk about Amazon bought MGM for $8.4 billion. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Then I talked about a child genius. This is a two year old who's IQ scored over 140, got admitted into Mensa. The youngest member in Mensa, it's insane. Then I talked about the podcast that I did with Max Lugavir and Jennifer Cohen, those episodes are both up. Max Lugavir's podcast is the genius life. Jen Cohen's is Habits and Hussle, both great podcast.
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Starting point is 00:02:47 Then we talk about more UFO stuff. There's more stuff coming out. It just keeps happening itself. They're getting ready for the big reveal. That's what I feel like. Then we got to the question. So the first question, this person wants to know all about neutropics.
Starting point is 00:02:59 What we think are good neutropics, what we think are bad neutropics and just overall opinions. That led us to bring it up one of our sponsors, Organifi. They actually make a product called Pure, which to date is the most consistent, uh, new tropic that we've all tried. All of us like it. We all use it pretty regularly.
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Starting point is 00:03:35 Adam is quite experienced at that, so we had a good conversation there. Then we talked about what exercises you should and shouldn't do with low reps. Somebody want to know when low reps are good or what exercises are good for low reps. Then the final question, this person want to know, things that we struggle with that we preach all the time. So of course, we preach a lot of fitness and health stuff, but we're definitely not perfect.
Starting point is 00:04:01 We're far from it. I have no weaknesses. So we talk about the stuff that we suck the most at. Also, four days left for the huge sale on maps aesthetic and our extreme fitness bundles. Right now they're both 50% off. Four days left to take advantage of this huge promotion. Go check them out, go learn more,
Starting point is 00:04:19 or just go sign up at mapsfitnessproducts.com. Just remember to use the code may Special with no space for the discount. Getting into the Montessori School is really hard right now. Listen to this stuff, dude. All right. Okay. At two years old, not only the Montessori School and then also airlines, the mass required at two, I thought it was four. That's insane. Two years old, I can't even get max to keep his fucking socks on. How am I gonna get him to keep a mask on?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Use glue. Impossible. No, there's no, like, you go really glue. No, this is where people, you've seen clips of people like having to leave the airplane because of their young toddler. I didn't know it was two. Like, it's crazy. I thought it was ridiculous for four, but two is come. Okay, no, it's two. Like, it's crazy. You know what, you know what I thought it was? I thought it was a little ridiculous for four,
Starting point is 00:05:05 but two is come. Okay, no, that's okay. Here's how silly that is. This is how stupid that is, okay? Have you ever been around a bunch of two-year-olds? Okay. Hold on a second. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:05:15 How many teachers and how many students per teacher, right? Monasaur is probably last, right? So, let's say there's 10s, nine to one. Okay, nine. You are the teacher, nine to your olds, okay? You're gonna have more masks to prevent them from spreading their germs. Have you ever seen 2 year olds?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, I have. We're gonna touch each other's faces. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what the hell's going on here? You're in a kick control, though. What do you do? I mean, what really sucks is that the way this all came up, well first we were talking about the Montessori School.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's just one of those feel good policies that doesn't make any sense. But the one that were this all came up, well first we were talking about the Montessori School. It's just one of those feel good policies that doesn't make any sense. But the one that where this really came up that it was like I had pissed about was, because it started with that conversation Katrina were talking about, and then we were talking about potentially going to Cabo this summer or something and we've also talked about maybe coming out with you guys
Starting point is 00:05:59 to Hawaii and Max in July turns two. And Katrina is like, well you know he's gonna have to wear a mask when we go on the plane. I'm like, there's no way. Yeah. And my son is like super well behaved. There's no way he keeps a mask on his face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, I, maybe you put him in a bubble tint. You know what I mean? He can't bubble dumb. Yeah, I've seen that bubble boy. Yeah. Just make sure you poke some holes in it. Yeah Oh, that's what I've learned. That's a very important point. It is if you don't do that Oh my god, you just being a dad. That's true. Oh, mad at me. I put a paper bag over Max's head like
Starting point is 00:06:36 Here we go. Oh my god, dude mama bear came out What are you doing? I'm like relax to playing with them. You know what I'm saying? Like we're just messing around cuz like We were throwing ninja stars at each other. He's just he's learning how to dog What do you do? What do you do? What he does it with a plastic bag or his face? I'm like, whoa Makes you make you a point though. It is that's dangerous Not my best dad move Yeah, you see she cut holes so his eyes and all that you can still You got it. Yeah, you see you can't hold so his eyes and all that, he can still kind of breathe.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, yeah. It's still kind of breathe. You know, that's the evolved version of. Yeah, I lost that argument, let's just say. That's such a not winning. Well, that's good. You know, they help balance us out. Dude, we have ideas too.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Listen, moms and dads, okay, we both have our thing that we're valuable for. Dads aren't necessarily the safest. What are you, so are you, we promote risk. You're still so early, so I feel like it's starting to get to this point now where the more and more of the, you know, how Katrina and I are different with raising a child is starting to come out, right? And all good stuff, right? But it's, you know, things that you just don't think to talk about. Are you, have you in Jessica? Are you, have you, have you got into something, not get into like a fight?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Like, you guys, I know you guys wouldn't fight over it, but I mean, like, we're like, oh, I never thought that she would be so strongly this way, or not really see my point here. I'm trying to think right now. She's definitely far more sensitive to him crying. Like, if he cries, ooh, it really makes it like really triggers her. That was a big one for me. If he cries, I'm like, okay. Yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 00:08:10 He doesn't want to get, he wants to get his way. Let him cry, sit up. But if for her it really, it's a really, it really affects her. So that's one big difference, but I can't think of any. Yeah, it's early right now. They start to come out more, I think, as they get a little bit older, because that I had the same thing to.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Once they get their little personality and everything that you have to figure out. Like, how are we gonna manage this? He's also now, like, now he's starting to have a preference for her or me depending on the situation. Like, I'm fun guy. Like, if he's fed and he's not tired and he sees me, he's like, yeah, it's let's play. It's gonna be a good time.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He laughs and smiles and it's all good times. But when he's tired or hungry, he doesn't feel good. He don't care. He's like, who is this guy? Like go with me. Where's my mom? At the other night I went up to,
Starting point is 00:08:53 because she put him down and then he didn't go down, so he's kind of fussing and then he starts crying. So it's like, okay, we gotta restart, right? That's what you gotta do. You gotta go in to restart. So I'm like, let me go try, right? So I go in there and I pat him like this on his back and he's like, push his up. And you can tell he's looking up and he's like, trying to figure out, is this mom or dad, right? So then I'm
Starting point is 00:09:15 like, it's okay, but here's my voice. So then I pick him up. Who I wanted. Yeah. So then I pick him up to try and like, see them or whatever. No way, dude. He's twisting. He's like where's mom? I need to find mom. Yeah, soon as she walks in the room and he hears her voice Just sits this head on her shoulder. I'm like Dad's not the guy home Yeah, he's not the one that comes for me. Oh the thing that we're dealing with right now So this this thing that's becoming consistent and I haven't decided how much I like it or not So I have the Instagram stories today. So I don't know if you guys saw so far my day. And it's the cutest thing in the world, like every morning pretty much now, before I leave, Max is sleeping in the bed with Katrina,
Starting point is 00:09:55 and they're all, he's normally like, hand on her face, and they're all cuddled up. It's adorable. And when you see that, you might think, oh my god, did I let the kid sleep in the bed? No, absolutely not. That's doesn't happen. He sleeps incredibly well. So he goes down at 730. He sleeps all the way till the earliest he'll wake up is five, normally six or six 30. But when he wakes up at five or five 30 or anything before six 30, she will bring him into the bed. She'll give him a little bit of milk and she'll bring it back in the bed and he'll fall asleep together, but I have to get out of the bed So even if I don't need to get it. Why do you have to get out of the bed because like you he dad is play time So he won't even sleep he won't sleep and I also
Starting point is 00:10:36 Shot myself in the foot by teaching like so I don't know. Maybe six months ago You know, I started to like we'd be reading his books like before bad like we always do and I pretend like I'm sleeping like when it's getting closer to be done with the books, I'll be like, oh it's time to go to sleep and I pretend like I'm snoring. I start doing that and so he would you know I try and wake me up and we was so the game. So it's a game right? Well when he comes in at five o'clock in the morning and I'm really snoring He comes over and he's laughing and hitting me on the head because he thinks I'm playing with him Yeah, so we I have to get up and I have to go to the other room so they can actually continue to sleep Yeah, I'm doing this thing. I have a problem with that my my son laughs because I'll pretend to bite his leg or his hand
Starting point is 00:11:20 And then I'm like wait a minute this kid's gonna get teeth soon. This might not be a good game to play. Yeah, you're gonna reciprocate. It's fun. Oh, little shit. Oh yeah, no, that's one of those things. It's always before bed. Like I thought that was something I had to learn the hard way too. I was like, hyping them up a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We were wrestling like before bed because they just have all this energy just spontaneously right before they have to go to sleep. And so I'm like trying to corral it, but then I'm like giving into it because it's fun or you know, I'm reading a story and then I'm like pretending to be all these characters and they're chiming in and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And then it's like, I can't do this every night because they're never gonna go to bed. You know, then they keep coming back up and staring. I'm like, I know what you're doing. You're stalling, stop coming up staring. Oh yeah. I had to like lay down the law with that. Oh yeah, no, my, they're smart with that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:12:06 because when they get a little older, it's like, I'm thirsty or, you know, hey, I'm just coming up for my water. Yeah, right, right. So I'm just like, I'm just like, but it starts early, like my, my, my baby's on seven months old, right? If he's anywhere and he wants you to get him and he makes eye contact with you,
Starting point is 00:12:22 he knows to make a cute, happy face. So he'll be like, whatever, then he'll make eye contact with you and he's like, he makes this big smile. And I'm like, is he like trying to entice me? Is it closer? Yeah, to come get him? Is it closer? I know, I was like, it's good.
Starting point is 00:12:36 It's pretty good. It can't be, it can't be, it's just our start. Apparently I didn't get the memo here. What? Cobra Kai, Miyagado over here. Dude, what's going on? Come on, bro. Did you guys, is it?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Cobra Kai with the, was there like What's going on bro? Did you guys is cobra Kai with the was there like a you know karate kid marathon Listen here's a bit of a split. There's a rift over here's the deal. Okay. I know you there's the good guys I see that with good karate. Oh good guys. There's the bad guys Cobra Kai suspect We should fight this out. Yeah, don't follow in the I'll get up right now all my actual rules Right. Yeah, I got my Johnny was misunderstood change my that's why I love so much about the cober kind of show Like he was a really getting to it like dude look at his background and the thing is like he was doing his best
Starting point is 00:13:14 You know and he's just so I do in the last fight. It's just like okay, you know He's doing his thing. He's he's kicking his ass, and then there's an illegal move that he lost. Let's talk about this. You guys both actually, it's actually very fitting that you guys are representing like this because I do feel like you are like Daniel Sun for sure. It's real, let's talk about this for good. I told you guys, I was a little bit borderline bully,
Starting point is 00:13:39 but like, you know, made my way out of it. So I wasn't like recovering. It's a total dick. Yeah, no, Danny Leruso came from when he come from New Jersey and he learned karate. And so obviously you love him. You know, I mean, maybe he came to California to this in this dickhead bully, starts messing with Daniel Leruso. Do you come in? He's a good girl. He studied karate for like six months. He didn't even have to change grades six months. Yeah.'t even have to change grades. Six months.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. Freaking Johnny been karate his whole life. And who wins the fight? I do believe it. So I mean, that's pure. They did. So I'm not like, obviously I'm not like a crazy fan. Like you guys are.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Sure. But I do, I did enjoy all of them. And I do like the new one because they do such a good job actually of telling his story, right? And like making him seem like not such a, oh, I get it. that's why he was bullied. And oh, man, didn't realize that he felt like he stole his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That was very smart. Yeah, they did it. It was very well done. Very well done, what they did. Yeah, his dad was a little jerk. You know, like it just, we just punk him all the time. At least he had a dad, Danny was there
Starting point is 00:14:40 with just a single mom. Oh, speaking of you guys being jerks. What are you doing? So I brought up, I know, I know I rolled that company on the bus the other day on email. So I get another email, okay. So Cassie, same company? No, no, no, no, no, no, this is different.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So Cassie sends me a message and she forwards this email and she says, what do you want, how do you want me to respond? So Doug, do you have this email? Please tell me, you have the email that Cassie has. So we get, it's in response to woke fitness. Oh, our last episode. Which by the way, I kind of knew that we might
Starting point is 00:15:15 ruffle some feathers, but I thought, when I went back and watched it, because I was a little concerned. It's surprising to me, because if you listen to how we talk and communicate, we've been helping people and we have incredible empathy for the whole situation. For sure. So it's weird to me because if you listen to how we talk and communicate when we've been helping people Through and we have incredible empathy for the whole situation for sure. It's weird to me that it would even No, Courtney love this she actually with a text me or just listen to it and was like wow That was a really well done, you know episode. Yeah, I thought I thought we had a good balance in it I didn't think that so I was a little surprised by this so Doug
Starting point is 00:15:41 Can you pull it up and read it for the audience here? Yeah? Oh? Just get it turned off here Yeah, Oh, just kidding. Turned off here. Turned off on. This is the topic. Turn me off. No, I'm going to read from the most important parts. I listened to your latest episode, Woke Fitness, and while I wasn't intending to do cardio today, my heart spikes so much during that podcast from Rage that I might as well have
Starting point is 00:16:03 run a mile. For a podcast that is always favored nuance and deep understanding of topics, I was totally unimpressed with your lack of discussion on the following. You are attracted to what you're attracted to. Here's food for thought. You're attracted to what's sold to you and what's sold to us is white skinny athletic cultural norm. It's easy to dismiss your preference, which as you stated feels so personal, none of anyone's business, but really your preference isn't your preference at all. But it's what's marketed to you. We can't even think for us. Through all mainstream outlets, calling out preference as fat phobia is not evolutionarily based, but
Starting point is 00:16:51 monetarily based. Our preferences are inherently fat phobic because that's the message that's marketed. Furthermore, those in the woke space aren't absolving themselves or of their autonomy by not pointing the blame on them, but are reclaiming obesity as a systemic issue. There are so many other points that I could discuss, but now that my heart rate has recovered, I'm going to eat a post workout meal. As a healthcare worker, healthcare worker,
Starting point is 00:17:22 I've listened to your podcast regularly since the pandemic and it had become to beloved Routine a mine to get my steps in and tune in not anymore Y'all are on the wrong side of history All I ask is that you keep this podcast up on the app years from now So the that the proof remains public. Oh, it's so sad that we lost it. How about that one, huh? History is against the law. So here's a deal.
Starting point is 00:17:51 There's a little bit of truth. That only, but actually that only is true for Justin. That's Justin's type. Yeah, the rest of us, you know. No, no, no. Okay, there's a little bit of truth in what they're saying in the sense that media does influence what we tend to preference. But there's also a very strong, there's very strong evolutionary roots. The bothers as well
Starting point is 00:18:11 studied. So I hate this whole like the science, no, that's bullshit. The science is actually quite clear. They've done studies on, like for example, to say, you know, what kind of shape are, are man attracted to? And they'll do this like all over the world. And what they do find is that there is a difference in weight where in some countries, what they find preferable are 30 to 40 pounds heavier than what they might find in another country. But it's the ratio of waste to hip.
Starting point is 00:18:40 There's a hip to waste ratio that is the same in all of these. And that hip to waste ratio is connected to health longevity Successful childbirth. You know what you don't find? Almost anywhere in any country is a general preference for severe obesity There are places where it's borderline and I forgot where exactly but there's a region in Africa Yeah, they they defeat everybody a lot of milk to but there's a region in Africa. Yeah, they feed everybody a lot of milk to get the weight up. I remember seeing that as like an attractive quality.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Like they were looking for, you know, women that were a little bit bigger. Yes, but there was, there was, in its borderline and one, and one of these areas is because there was such a huge epidemic of HIV and AIDS. So being heavy looked healthy because you are not wasting away to this disease, right? But by and large, there is no like evolutionary preference for severe, actually, for there's no evolutionary preference for anything that is generally unhealthy. So this could be really bad skin. This could be teeth that are falling out. This could be anything that displays poor health. Generally, I say general because humans are complex. So there's definitely nuances and fetishes
Starting point is 00:19:52 and all that stuff. But generally speaking, anything that is a display of poor health is considered unattractive. So this is terrible. It's not fat phobia. They label it that because then the next step is to say, you are a bigot or discriminatory. Why aren't you sleeping with these super obese people? Why are you pursuing obese people as your preference? Yes, it's terrible. And then the thing is the whole marketing aspect of that, that's where I'm immediately, I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:20:21 so you're telling me that none of us can think for ourselves. We can't have our own preferences. Like now, you're telling me a marketing company's gonna influence me that much to where it's gonna be like, oh, well, this is what I'm supposed to be attracted to in my life. I mean, we've addressed... Tell me what else to do. In her defense, we have addressed that too, though. I mean, we talked about this when we talked about magazines.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I mean, much of the 80s and, 80s and 90s and even probably even to early 2000, well, maybe not so 2000, but definitely in the 80s and 90s and maybe even before this, you know, skinny cocaine looked, you know, just totally an anorexic looking model was what we were promoted as health or what people should be attracted to. But I don't, I can't get behind that. We've been sold that, so that's what everybody wants. That's such an overjumization.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, that's exactly if that was the case, then that would be like everybody right now. Also, you gotta remember this, the market is driven by the consumer. If you stop buying that shit, they will stop promoting it. They have no way of making money off of what they're promoting if people don't buy it. So at the end of the, and this is the problem, nobody wants that response. And by the way, the way marketing companies come up with stuff like that is they go survey
Starting point is 00:21:35 people first and then they go after you. Or they'll put something right around. Yeah, I mean, here you are in this company. It's big company corporation. And you're like, hey, I'd like to use this model to market our new product. And like, okay, and then two months later, like, we're losing sales, it's not working. It's the company, like, keep pushing it.
Starting point is 00:21:51 We need to teach people to like this model. That's a terrible approach. They'd be like, you've changed. And you've kind of seen that a little bit in programming for like TV shows and movies, and it's just not doing well. You know, like it's just, you can't as much as you want to have people kind of come into
Starting point is 00:22:07 your ideas and your ideologies. Like if it's not, if people aren't buying it, it's not working out. And also this whole, like she had, of course, this person had to throw in not just skinny, but also white, right? Yeah, where did that come in? Okay, well, first of all, it's partially true, but mainly because for a lot of long time, right? The number one, first of all, America is the largest consumer base in the world, right?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Everybody knows if you want to build a company and make it extremely successful in billions of dollars, like you do it in America, we consume the most. We have the most money to consume, right? And for a long time, a majority of the consumers in America were white, right? There were European centric. So you saw that, but America's landscape
Starting point is 00:22:52 is changing quite a bit. And what's changing along with that is the marketing. It's not because companies are trying to be virtuous. It's because it's starting to work to show somebody that is Hispanic or that is black or that is, you know, not white, because the consumer base is starting to work to show somebody that is Hispanic or that is black or that is, you know, not white? Because the consumer base is starting to change, right? That's why it is the way it is.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Now why is it, why does it show up in the rest of the world? Because again, America is the main consumer. If you look at the amount that consumers in America spend on products, it like pale, other country's pale in comparison. That's why it is the way it is. But as the consumer based changes its habits, so will the marketing. But yeah, this labeling it fat phobic, like what?
Starting point is 00:23:35 I can't believe the people are so dumb. I can't believe you're this, it hurts my head. I'm glad we did the episode now. I was like, I was kinda like, really, I mean, it's kind of obvious to me, but. Obviously not. Yeah, okay, so if I'm an asshole and you're not attracted to me,
Starting point is 00:23:48 does that make you asshole, Fobick? Yes. Exactly. You're just a Fobick. You just have a Fobick against jerks. Yeah. You should like me. You have a Fobick against guys with vans.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. Whatever, come on in. Yeah. Yeah. Come in my van. I have a Fobick against guys that live in their vans. Yeah. With no windows. Like me. Yeah, and in my way. Him a phobia against guys that live in their fans. Yeah, but no windows. Like me.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, and I got duct tape in the back. It's just, it's ridiculous, but it's part of that whole strange like woke fitness movement that it's always default to the systemic. Everything is systemic now. There's no personal responsibility. Heaven forbid, like you just own up that, maybe I like that or they don't like that.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It how always we have to blame a system on it. Well, it's very, I'm sorry, but it's very parallel to cults. This is the first thing they do. Everybody has to have the same ideas. Everybody has to subscribe to this type of language. Everybody has to do all these things the same. Where's the diversity?
Starting point is 00:24:43 Diversity is where it's at. That's the beautiful part. We're a melting pot of a million different types of people, and that's beautiful. Why did we get away from that? Yeah, and again, you're just, okay, you're attracted to what you're attracted to, whatever. And I hate to, like this, generally speaking,
Starting point is 00:24:57 this isn't of course on an individual basis. This is, it could be very different, but that if you're healthy, you're probably gonna be more attractive. And by the way, when I say healthy, I don't just mean physical, that's part of health. I also mean mental health and spiritual health, right? So somebody could be physically very attractive,
Starting point is 00:25:15 but if they're mentally not healthy, they're also probably not gonna be attractive to a lot of people. It's just sweet. On other news of dumb people, did you guys see Joey Swall giving out cryptocurrency advice? Oh no.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Oh no. I don't know if he's even 30 seconds of my life watching that. Oh. I had to tag you guys. Is that the beginning of the end for crypto? I just. It was the best gift you give me in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'll be honest. That was amazing to sit through. So great. The way he talks about it, obviously, doesn't know. I'm totally into crypto. This is, everybody knows. It reminds me so.
Starting point is 00:25:51 In culture, you have certain terms, like getting jiggy with it. That was a cool thing because we'll Smith said it once or whatever. And then your grandma said it next. Like Joey Schwoll just did that to crypto. The shark has been jumped. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, I know. I mean, the thing that I've now talked to several very brilliant minds that, I think one of the best things that I've heard from them say is that, I mean, I don't understand it. It's, you know, and this is. Are you talking about economists? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, I know. I'm talking about brilliant minds in that field are like it's confusing and it doesn't, I can't quite piece it all together or make sense of how it's all on musk and figure it out. Yes. But Joey Schwol has it down. By the way, I just read in article,
Starting point is 00:26:44 you know how the criticism that he said was that it was the carbon footprint of mining for Bitcoin, because the energy, right? The energy to mine for Bitcoin. Yeah, you said you debunked that, no? An article actually debunked it. They went and compared gold and dollars, and the whole process, right?
Starting point is 00:27:02 The process of mining the gold and transporting it and all that stuff. And then the process of mining the gold and transporting it and all that stuff. And then the process of like what it takes to make money and print money. And they actually compared the carbon footprint and the energy that was required to make them. And Bitcoin actually uses the least. It's actually less battery environment than those other ones.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And I knew it. When I heard that, it reminds me a lot of how, you know, oftentimes we have these environmental policies that sound and feel good, but when you actually break it down, it's not so simple. Like I remember the plastic bag band that they had in California a while ago, and it was all based on the fact that plastic bags don't decompose or whatever, and so it's worse for the environment. And then people actually went, scientists actually went and studied like the amount of water that is needed to make paper bags, the amount of materials, transporting them, they take up more space, they're heavier.
Starting point is 00:27:53 They actually did all the actual math and figuring. They said, actually it's not that big, it's not a different. These are all the inconvenient details. Yeah. You know, it's much easier to think like generally this will be better, but like when that's why it's so important, you know, to follow that train of thought and see it all the way through. Well, I still stand behind that. I don't think it's going away. I know I came out the hardest probably saying that I believe it's going to stay. Yeah. It's
Starting point is 00:28:17 here to stay just for the black market reason alone. That's it. Yeah. I mean, that's where it's going. And I don't know that for sure if it will or will not, but even the money that I put into that, I looked the same way when I put a bet on the Lakers to lose. It's the same, I'm gambling. It's a gamble. It's a gamble. I'm gonna throw a little bit of money on it.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Let's see what happens. I do as much research to figure out as much as I can. I think, oh, I think these are decent bets, but that's it. I'm walking away from it. It's like, if it turns out to be something then great if not, I'm not gonna. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 People got in early and they made a lot of money. Well, good for them. Here's the truth, right? If the shit really hits the fan, right? If the shit hits the fan, you're gonna want something you can use in a black market, because black markets change all the time. Now, right now it's drugs and guns and other shit,
Starting point is 00:29:02 but who knows if the shit hits the fan, maybe the black market is something like milk or bread or car or who knows, right? So what's the odds of the shit hitting the fan? In this country too. Yeah, but very, very small, right? But if it does hit the fan and everything goes crazy and you're like, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And by the way though, if a scenario like that were to happen, I don't think we're the first country to show that as an example. Right, so if you're like shit hits the fan, it gets all crazy. Oh, it happened in the past in the places. Right, that's what I'm saying. Do you know in Venezuela, Bitcoin,
Starting point is 00:29:36 like people like saving their lives with Bitcoin? Because their currencies completely destroyed. In other countries that have gone tyrannical, there were black markets for clothes, there were black markets for clothes, there were black markets for education, there are books that you couldn't buy because they were banned. So how are you going to buy these books? Well, you got to use the black market. So Bitcoin is good for that, I would say. But as far as the value, I don't know so vaulted. But still, look, here's a deal. It crashed, everybody's like, it crashed. It's
Starting point is 00:30:03 still so much higher than it was a couple of years ago. Like, what is this sitting at now, 30 something thousand? Where was it a couple of years or nine? So even with its crash, holy cow, it's still way more valuable than it was before. Yeah, weren't you gonna bring up the Logan Paul? Oh yeah, so did you see that he signed with Showtime? Yeah, so Brendan Schobott was talking about this.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So he, okay, by the way, which is, is okay, that, that, what's a company called, Thriller, Trilla or some shit, whatever that name was. The, remember I was bringing up like how trashy it was. I was like, oh my God, this company is, I cannot believe. But I mean, there's so much hype around the fights. If it makes money. Well, especially with like Logan Paul and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:30:45 they're gonna be and Jake Paul being involved in it or whatever. So they have so much pool with their network. So I'm guessing that they probably carried a lot of the success that that company was having. Now they signed with Showtime, Dunso, dude. So watch the fall of that company. It's only gonna be a matter of time. So what's Showtime gonna do with them?
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's a real boxer. They will set, they won't set no bullshit fights. His next fight, his fights coming up will be real fighters. Every way YouTube contender, that was like his title. I'm like, okay, so Logan Paul, just focusing on him, because we've seen Jake Paul actually had a fight and he won, right? Yeah. Logan Paul, he didn't win. Like, where's his track record?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Oh, did you bring up Logan or Jake? I'm sorry. I've run a blog. Oh, I was finding me with. I was talking about Jake. Oh, so Jake's on the little brother who just fought on the thriller. What the fuck is it? Yeah, it's a thriller.
Starting point is 00:31:34 What if I don't know the name of it? So it's a little bit more. Is it any fine Floyd or is that the other guy? No, it's Logan is fighting Floyd. Oh my God. Yeah. That one just blows my mind. I was trying to scratch.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Let me ask you guys this. Do you think Floyd is going to go in there to try to hurt him? Or do you think Floyd's gonna go in there and make a show? No, he doesn't fight that way. He doesn't fight that way. I would love it if you did. Okay, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Yes, he doesn't fight that way, but he's one of the best boxers of all time. Yeah, he makes no mistake. If you wanted to, And he did it early in his career. He's also a very, very intelligent fighter and he everybody has a fighter's champ, what is called a punch, a fighter's punch champ.
Starting point is 00:32:09 What's the boxer's chance? No, no, no. Puncher's chance. Yeah, thank you. Puncher's chance. Jesus, today I can't put things together. That's a bit, some analogy. Yeah, you know what I mean though, right?
Starting point is 00:32:18 So he knows that, and he's a big boy. So he's not gonna mess around. He's not gonna take risk. He's about his money. So he's not gonna mess around, he's not gonna take risk. He's about his money. Yeah, but you gotta understand. There's a, when you're talking about world class boxer versus a good boxer. Yeah, but you know.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's like light years. Okay. All right, although he's a technical boxer, he dances or whatever. And he's not known as a hard puncher in comparison to other. Yes, he will knock. Yes, you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But there's a big difference between 150 pounds and 210 pounds. Okay. So you can be world class or not. I mean, here's the. I don't know, man. I played my, may weather would, would, would, whoop my ass, but I guarantee I would put a lick it on him. If we, if I got a shot on him,
Starting point is 00:32:59 well, because I'm twice a size. He's so smart. Just like somebody else would. He's just going to put him through the ringer until he gets him tired. That's what he'll do. And then he'll, maybe he'll go. He's one of the most elusive boxers of all time.
Starting point is 00:33:11 How do you even touch him? Have you guys ever been around a world class small boxer? Hit a bag or anything like that? Oh yeah. There's some other level of. Okay, so I've never been a pass for a Mexican box and do this guy. It hits so hard.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It's, and there's small, he's 150 pounds, but my 150 pound guy I guarantee you he hits three times as hard as anyone in this A great agree to agree, but I've so I've never been around a world class But I've I've boxed with an amateur boxer who's so obviously way better than I am But the weight and the size was such a difference that I actually could go a couple rounds with a guy because I could just sit there with, I mean, I know skills. Yeah, I mean, just, I'm leaning back, I'm keeping the, like, he would have to lunge at me to get in. So I actually looked like I hung in there for now, give, by the third round, I can't breathe and I'm slapping all over myself and then he's hitting me in the gut and then
Starting point is 00:34:00 it's game over. Wait until you're sloppy. Yes. So, but you're, and you're not Logan Paul fights. Like I'm not a fighter, right? So Logan Paul is an actual fighter. So he's got the punchers chance. It is crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's not going to go. He's athletic. He's skilled, but like, I mean, he hasn't proven anything yet. I hate to say it, Adam, but you called this and it's happening. I mean, they're signing with showtime and it's just money. It's all money. Of course, yeah, of course it is. That's everything.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I want to know more specific so because you you see Connor McGregor called out, uh, um, Floyd Mayweather for taking the fight claiming that these numbers are inflated. Mm hmm. That they're saying that the numbers are the numbers that Jake and Lowe were saying last fights. Yeah, they're fights that they're making all this money. Well, didn't Floyd sue them because they weren't going to pay him X amount of dollars in something like that
Starting point is 00:34:45 Happen. I know he did I don't know if he won I don't know where yeah, yeah, he sued him because The chain is it the change the venue do you know that we talked about it? It was something there was something that they didn't agree to and that they changed yeah Either the day to the venue or some I can't remember what it was all but you're you're right He did sue me suit him for like two or four million dollars, something that range, something ridiculous. I don't know where it's at. And I don't know if that was just a posturing. Any boxer that goes in there to fight one of those guys,
Starting point is 00:35:11 I would think because as a boxer, as a fighter, that's your skill, right? So it's almost like if one of us was put into competition with like a fake fitness influencer, you know, personal trainer. 120 million lawsuit. What? Whoa, yeah, that's, that's, I influencer, you know, personal trainer. 120 million lawsuit. What? Whoa, yeah, that's, that's,
Starting point is 00:35:27 I said, I was supposed to be in Dubai. Yeah, see it was location, right? Oh, wow. 120 million, yeah, that's insane. I was way off on that. Yeah, I thought it was way less. Dude, speaking of big money, did you guys see Amazon bot MGM?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yes, I did. Eight point four billion dollars. The second biggest acquisition in like the last decade with them, right? I see Amazon bought MGM. Yes, I did. $8.4 billion. Yeah, the second biggest acquisition in the last decade with them, right? So Whole Foods was the last really big one I did. Now, you know why? Is it the programming? Is it the...
Starting point is 00:35:54 Well, yeah, I mean, right. So, yeah, potential. There's just the competition with streaming services in order for, it's all about Amazon Prime, about keeping the Amazon Prime customers. They have to stay compare one of the best perks about having Amazon Prime as you have access to great movies And so in order for them to stay competitive They almost their hand is almost being forced in this direction to hang with all the Netflix the HBO Max Disney plus I love it. Yeah, because you see that Netflix original just came out for the zombie movie
Starting point is 00:36:24 You know with Dave Petista is that name is a good you watch it. Yeah, because you see that Netflix original just came out for the zombie movie, you know, with Dave Petista, his name. Is it good, you watch it? No, I just want to keep bringing up it. Oh, that was a dumb one. That was kind of stupid. But I did see that like Chris Pratt has a movie with Amazon that's original.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And it actually looks really good. Like I saw a trailer. I love it. I was like, boom, this, I think this is great. Now does this mean Amazon's gonna own the MGM Casino and hotel in Vegas too. Is that all part of the whole deal? I would assume so. Yeah, I would actually think it's different I would think there's the production company MGM. Yeah, but is MGM own at all or is it separate? Yeah, but I think they bought MGM Production company. I don't know if they bought MGM as a
Starting point is 00:37:00 Contire because I would be cool. Imagine a casino owned by Amazon GM as a contire. Because I would be cool, imagine a casino owned by Amazon. That's lame. That doesn't sound cool. No, I bet you would be an opposite of Jeff Bezos that wrote, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:37:11 That's a good question though, Doug, could you see if they, if they, if they, I don't think they do, Sal, though. I would assume that MGM has got many branches to the company and they're probably selling off the production side of the movie making.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And then they, I'm sure they have other, I mean, I'm guessing. Oh, hey, I got some good news. I'm kind of nerdy, but it's kind of cool. Do you guys know that the American, so do you have these math competitions in the world, right? Or they, I guess they figure out complex equations or whatever, and China dominates these competitions.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Well, guess you just won the latest math competition. America. Yeah. Really. Yeah, we did. Wow. You wanna say. Yeah, we beat them. How, I mean, I bet we won the latest math competition. America. Yeah, really? Yeah, we did. Wow. You must say. Yeah, we beat him. How, I mean, I bet we haven't won him forever. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'll can look it up for you, but we beat them, and it was pretty, apparently it was a big deal. Of course it is. Oh, here we go, ready? How long has it been spent? By the way, almost, I think, I don't know if this is true, but everybody on the American team.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Was it a janitor from Boston? No, I wasn't. It's his USA math team, Olympiad, China for the first Chinese in 30 years. Is he a Chinese guy? No, it's four kids. I don't know if they might all be Chinese, but that's the beauty of America.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We got them all, man. But they won. Look at that in 30 years, though. Geez. I don't know that they kicked our ass for that. For come on. Speaking of basketball still. Speaking of smart stuff. We got basketball.. Speaking of basketball. Speaking of smart stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Speaking of smart stuff, there was this kid, did you guys hear about this, the first, like, toddler to be admitted into, what's it called? What's that organization, Doug, where your IQ needs to be super high? Mensa? Mensa. Mensa. Yes. There was a two-year-old that got in, I'm gonna look it up because I forgot to save this article.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Two-year-old that got admitted into Mensa, the youngest member of Mensa, this two-year-old scored a 146 IQ test. Whoa. What? Two-year-old? A two-year-old. How was that even possible, dude? You hear that, you hear that honey? Well, even better than Dougie Hauser.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah, we're behind with the fuck. No, I've been said that's been the debate at home right now. No, it's really yeah, but when I brought up the beginning of show, that was one of the things that we didn't get to that. Listen to this, about 17 months old, she had recognized the alphabet numbers colors and shapes. Wow. She could say all the states just by the shape of the state.
Starting point is 00:39:22 She could tell you all that. Wow. I the, wow. I mean, a two year old, she speaks over 50 signs and sign language can count to, just a two year old. So we're like a virtuoso, like piano player. So you can identify elements on the periodic table. Like it's really, and she's two, dude, two years old. Now, in order to get to a two year old there,
Starting point is 00:39:42 I mean, you gotta think they couldn't even start until at least six months, like actually teaching it. The baby can barely see anything at that point. I know. And she's adorable. Every, every all just modeling legs, like, have to. Yeah, have to just pick up on everything. Every, every waking moment they had have been like trying to teach you.
Starting point is 00:39:59 This is what we need to realize. And this is the trippy thing, right? There's, we know this, this is very easy to see, but there's, there's these genetic, obviously most people are in the middle, right? So if you look at like the ends of the spectrum, so on one end is like, you know, really, really bad on the other end. That's right there.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Exceptional, I think that's her. Yeah. And then most people are somewhere in the middle, right? So if you think of it physically, right? On the, on the very, very end of the spectrum are people who are like over seven feet tall, super, super rare, or like these physical anomalies that are super strong, they don't work out, they can just bench press three hundred pounds.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's like that with intelligence too, that might even be more extreme. So like more, so there's people on such a far end of the spectrum that we probably sound like children, you know, when we talk about certain things. And this kid, two years old, just imagine what she's gonna grow up to become. Oh, who knows?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Well, who knows? You know, it's where the government start kind of pulling and approaching torture, dude. Well, you know, it's funny. Oftentimes these genius kids don't do much. Tortured, man. They don't. They end up going to school.
Starting point is 00:41:00 They don't connect with other kids. They feel very, you know, and they end up doing okay. but oftentimes they don't do anything great because it was such a challenge for them to learn. Yeah, just be, would be interesting to see where her passions can take her. Yeah, what was that? She's adorable, huh? She's so cute. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:18 What was that? My, I knew imagine you have a little genius kid. I mean, part of me would be so proud. I'd be so stressed out and part of me would be so sad. Yeah, just like trying to protect like, you know, anybody around her. Yeah, like, or you're like, they're like 10 and you're like,
Starting point is 00:41:29 Hey, you want to play with blocks? Like no, thanks, father. Let's, I'd like to do these equations. Can you do these with me? Sorry, kid. You're gonna solve everything. No, obviously, now obviously, there's a big portion that's genetic here,
Starting point is 00:41:39 but I also wonder how much effort like mom and dad put into like teaching. Well, I think you probably recognize your child's gift. And when you're that, you know, here's a deal. You're not gonna know all the stuff as a two-year-old unless you want to. So I think you can force your kid. At two years old, they probably, they love it, you know?
Starting point is 00:41:57 More, mom, more, dad, teach me more. You know, they're probably super, like those little kids that are like athletic phenoms, that are client ones whose two and three year old was like, I couldn't believe the stuff this kid could do with like a racket in a baseball bat. And I'm like, are you guys like just making a prize? And they're like, no, he literally cries
Starting point is 00:42:14 if we don't have the levels. I also think there's a lot to, I mean, hopefully, I bet you these parents, you gotta give them credit too, right? So you recognize that, but you also have to still get them to do that and teach that, which takes some creativity, right? So this is the conversation like Katrina and I are having like there's this like little debate at home right now that and I'm like, because he's my son in the last, I would say two or three months as showing
Starting point is 00:42:38 signs of like wanting to learn. But that doesn't mean that he doesn't get distracted, it doesn't mean that he gets bored sometimes and he doesn't want to do it. And so it takes an effort from me to like, or her or the nanny to like consciously like keeping him focused and engaged and making a game out of it to do that. And that I was complaining. I was telling her like I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:43:01 The nanny doesn't do enough of this. Like she just takes the easy stuff. Of course he wants to go play in the sand and dig holes all day long. But I've now got him to where he's recognizing all the animals and the colors and he could put the puzzle pieces together. And so, but I also have to like get him over to do it. Like Max, go get your book, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And then as he gets distracted, re-engage him with being with my voice and making fun. And so, there's definitely gotta be something here with the parents too. Like I wouldn't be surprised if their teachers themselves or they also, they made a real serious effort to accelerate a kid that far by two years old. I mean, you can't think that's all genetic, right?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Speaking of distractions, just your face just keeps distracting. I don't understand how much Keldera stuff are using. It's the, hey, so I'm loving the moisturizer. Is that what it moisturizers that would have done? Because you're using it too, right? Yes. You have to say it like this. It's like a face wash first, right?
Starting point is 00:43:52 And then it moisturizes. So you have both. It's a two-part, are you using both? Yeah, because I just started using this. So I keep the, I can do the, I do the one in the shower. So I keep it in the shower. And it's only for your face though in the shower. Yeah, well, are you put it on your own? That's all I'm gonna do. I'm gonna show it on my face. so I keep it in the shower. It's only for your face though in the shower. Well, yeah, that's all.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Or do you put it on your own? I'm just gonna show it on my face. Yeah, just face. I just use it on my face. But up here. I imagine if it's good for your face, it's probably good everywhere else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And then after that, I put the moisturizer on afterwards. Look for it, yeah, so. You like it, Doug? I love it. So do I. Yeah, I think a lot of moisturizers are creams for one they have a really strong odor that I don't like. And then the other thing is that they're greasy,
Starting point is 00:44:28 and this is not, it just like goes right into the skin. So. Well, I mean, I mean, here's a deal. We record our podcast, I'm not bullshit. Go and watch our podcast from months ago to now and look at the difference. My handsome level. Yeah, it's like, well, it's like your haircut level, right?
Starting point is 00:44:45 Oh my god, I'm gonna get out of here. I'm gonna turn my head like a skin. I'm gonna get out of here. Eminates. But, speaking of Caldera, I know you just, Oh, I was with the Max. Actually, he just dropped my interview. So, I went down there to visit him
Starting point is 00:44:56 and he's also working with Caldera. Also, and by the way, I noticed. Also, a handsome man. He is very handsome. He didn't tell me I made a comment. We were on the podcast and like, dude, you're like, keep looking younger, like what the hell's going on?
Starting point is 00:45:10 And he's like, oh, I'm using this product or whatever, I'm like, shut up. Do we work with them too? So it was like this, you know, this funny moment. Actually, that was, and he, you actually put that in his podcast because he sponsored by them. So it's like, I'm glad you brought that up
Starting point is 00:45:20 because it's like, we could talk. Now, you did a max, I know, Jen, co-hand, and by the way, I wouldn't want an entrepreneur magazine post that yeah so yeah so Jen cool Jen Cohen that interview went up and then max is also just one now now you've done so many of these so far I mean the obviously you're on your book tour right now any favorites like as far as like you felt like you know you know when you hit it right like when you get in like the flow of like communicating whatever it is you're talking about, like when, what are some of your favorites you've done so far?
Starting point is 00:45:47 You know, I like, you know, I like talking to Jen a lot because Jen is very genuine with the questions. Like these are things that she wants to know. And so she's easy to talk to. She's relatable. That's what her name short for. Yeah, exactly. Max, of course, Max is just a great, easy person to talk to.
Starting point is 00:46:07 He's a natural media person. Like Max, you see him on camera. You hear him on a podcast. He's very polished. So that was also a lot of fun. I also did our friend Scott was an iron sights podcast. And I thought I had a great, now he's a trainer, right? So we had a good conversation that you would have
Starting point is 00:46:26 between personal trainers. Yeah. So I enjoyed that. Well, now you're saying things that you enjoy, but what, which one you think was your best representation of the book, right? You're selling the book, obviously, on a different point of view. I think so far, Max and Jen, I think I, I was able to really communicate it very well. Yeah. I would say those are two probably pretty close. You had another one I listened to, I thought was really good,
Starting point is 00:46:42 that it was a while back, it was like a month ago. I can't remember who it was, and I thought you did really good. Yeah had another one I listened to, I thought was really good, it was wild back, it was like a month ago. I can't remember who it was, and I thought you did really good. Yeah, thanks, I appreciate that. No, it's, look, I've been talking about this for all of us, I've been talking about this same stuff for so long that you just, you get very, it becomes automatic, it becomes very polished, right?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Because you practice it so often, and think that's, and that's what I'm doing when I'm talking about resistance training and its benefits and all that stuff. Hey, real quick before we get to the questions. I know you love it when we talk about UFOs, Adam. God, but there's more. It's not UFOs, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:14 You gotta fix happening. For all, there's more stuff. You guys sound behind times here. Come on, we're just trying to keep up. Listen to this. This is a bad thing. This is more shit than really, I swear to God, Justin. They're really I swore to God just then yeah, they're preparing us I know for the big drop. Yeah, they're gonna drop some crazy shit and they're testing us check this out
Starting point is 00:47:31 Okay, the US Navy now has released this that they detected Unexplainable mysterious objects moving at hundreds of knots under the water So these are called us oh, I think we said that. I identified submerged objects So the Navy is like we actually have picked us up on our sensors and shit of things moving so on our data Okay, going hundreds of knots underwater. Okay, break down knots. How fast is a knot? I have no idea Actually, I know the origin of not somebody explained it to me one time and I was just like okay I'm never gonna be able to recite that, but yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Is that a basic thing like how I'll- I know what the origins are. There is a speed, Doug will find it, but I know what the origin is. They would tie knots on a rope, a certain distance, and then they would travel, and it's how many of these knots that would pass through a particular like measuring,
Starting point is 00:48:20 how many knots pass through this ring would tell us that we're going this many knots fast, and I forgot what it was. So what is one knot? like measuring, like how many knots pass through this ring would tell us that we're going this many knots fast and I forgot what it was. So what is one knot? Oh, it's almost a one mile an hour, right? So 1.1 miles an hour is one knot. Maybe look up the origin of knots too,
Starting point is 00:48:35 because that'll be cool. So think about this way. Hundreds of miles an hour under water. Do you know what that, how impossible that is? Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying that is? Underwater. It's like a speed resistor. Yeah, we don't have anything that does that that's right. No, submarines don't go quick. Oh, no, even the James Bond stuff we've seen, like,
Starting point is 00:48:55 it wouldn't be able to pull it off. So look at this, right? So the term not dates from the 17th century when sailors measured the speed of their ship by using a device called a common log. The device was a coil of rope with uniformly spaced knots attached to a piece of wood, shaped like a slice of pie. So however many knots passed would tell them, however, whatever speed was. Doug, look at the fastest underwater submarine. Let's see how many knots. Well, if it can create its own gravity and have that sort of separation, then there's
Starting point is 00:49:23 no friction. So of course, it can it goes fast as it wants. Yeah, well exactly, like no way it's passing through water, but rather it's probably creating a bubble of space. So a better thing, I would, what's the fastest life? 44 knots, bro. That's the fastest submarine that we have.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Hundreds of knots. Now is that, is this a dumb question too? Is that faster than any dolphin or any animals? It's like, what's the fastest? Oh, it is soon. Yeah, what's the fastest dolphin? I would, it's dolphins, dolphins probably the fastest, right? Was there anything faster than a dolphin underwater?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, I think a, what's the fish with the long, was it swordfish? Oh, yeah, they're... I know tuna. I think tuna might actually be faster than dolphins. Really? Bluefin tuna, you ever seen those fuckers? They're made for speed.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah, dude, tell me the fastest fish. Yeah. 68 miles per hour. Wow. Also a fish can go faster than our fastest submarine. Wow, that's actually pretty good. Fail fish. Fail fish.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Oh, sailfish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. This is the big trophy ones. Look up how fast the bluefin tuna is and then a dolphin. Get your fingers moving. Get your fingers moving. Thanks, Doug.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Keep going, Dore. Today is fish trivia. Yeah, Google. You guys have ever seen it like an actual tuna up close. They're all muscle and they're made for speed. They look like torpedoes the way they move. Oh yeah. Not so impressive.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Oh, that's four knots. Yeah, you're way off. Wow. That's pretty fair. Come on, bro. Wait, hold on. Capable of 16. Capable of burst speeds of 20 knots.
Starting point is 00:50:44 That's pretty freaking good. 20 miles an hour underwater. Look up a dolphin. I can do that. I see it's faster dolphin or bluefin tuna. My money's on dolphin. What about you Justin? I mean, sorry, tuna.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Tuna? Yeah, I think dolphin's faster. I'll go tuna. No, looks like it's the bluefin. They could reach speeds up to nine knots. So, no, not even close. Wow. The blue fin tuna gets away.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Winds. That's fast. You don't know what that's about. Now that's crazy though. So you said a few hundred knots. So, so here's the thing. So do you think that we just haven't been getting this information forever and then all of a sudden now, it's like, oh, it's open. And so we'll tell you all these unique experiences
Starting point is 00:51:26 that we've, you know, not cataloged or are we give it and then it becomes like classified. I think so. What if it was a missile? You can't go that fast underwater. A missile can't go that fast? Underwater? Yeah, there are no torpedoes.
Starting point is 00:51:40 It goes hundreds of knots underwater. Really, what's fastest torpedo dive? You can't go that fast. You can't go that fast. Underwater? Yeah, torpedo. There are no torpedo, let's fast the torpedo down. That's it. That's it. That's it. Do you know what that would have a finger fatigue? By the way, do you know what that would do under water?
Starting point is 00:51:50 If it were torpedo went hundreds of miles an hour underwater, it would create like this crazy wave. Yeah, or turbulence or what? Yeah, and so that's the other thing. And so it wasn't creating like, no, okay, no. So this is again, back to the whole thing. It's like frictionless.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Okay, there is a rocket powered super cavitating torpedo that can go up to 200 knots. It's fast, but not as fast. You said a few hundred knots. Few is like three or 400. See, it was probably a torpedo. Yeah. They wouldn't know if it was actually unidentified.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Well, it was not theirs, huh? Identify So identify it's not ours. You know somebody else's torpedo fire in underwater. It identifies as a you Where's this headband who's this headband? I don't know looks like it's a identified an identified headband Who's it might be alien? I would yeah now with all this nautical talk? I don't know, it looks like it's a identified headband. Yes, so knows. Who's it? It might be alien. I have no idea. Now with all this nautical talk, I want to do a shout out to the Naval Diving and Salvatroning
Starting point is 00:52:52 Command in Panama City Beach, Florida. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yes, T.C. Hold on a second. Navy, Naval Diving and Salvatroning, I bet they find a lot of cocaine floating off of a Florida. That's like the hub of like floating cocaine.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah, that's what they find. Every time I ever read about that, there's bricks of stuff. Yeah. Shhh. Shhh. Quee-claw. Quee-claw. That ain't going everywhere.
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Starting point is 00:53:37 It's the motherfucking floor. An eagulous landage. Quick call. What? First question is from Omar Martinez 0-8. Can you guys go over new tropics and your personal experiences with them? You've probably had the most, right?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Yeah. And you've tried them all. Well, I've given you guys a bunch too. Yeah, no, I've tried a lot. And honestly, consistently, nothing beats pure for me. Yeah. I mean, the way I feel from that, that's my favorite.
Starting point is 00:54:04 The other ones, hit and miss. Might get a headache, might feel a spike, then come down. I have a, I think, like, because they use like artificial ingredients, I think, some of the ones that I've had before, like I think. Yeah, I mean, okay, to be clear, just like this is like when people ask us fitness questions,
Starting point is 00:54:21 what's the best supplement, whatever. Nothing's gonna come close to good diet, good sleep, you know, sleep, by the way, is huge. Like whenever I would have clients who had issues with cognitive performance, nine to ten times, it was either they weren't getting enough sleep or they had crappy sleep or even like overconsuming like carbohydrates, like being just overloaded with calories. Right. Or diet or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It makes a huge difference and they show that exercise makes a big difference with cognitive performance, especially resistance training. In fact, there was a study done out of Sydney, Australia that showed that resistance strains, the only form of exercise that seems to prevent or halt the progression of dementia or Alzheimer's, probably because it increases insulin sensitivity. And that's part of maybe they think one of the reasons why our cognitive function declines is our ability to utilize insulin,
Starting point is 00:55:10 starts to get poor or whatever. So those things are the most effective, but okay, as far as supplements are concerned, creatine has been shown to boost cognitive function. Then you have the class of drugs called raceatems. These are these, and these are actual synthetic. These are the ones I don't want. That's a synthetic, was the worst.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah, like paracetam, anarasitam, and there's lots of others. And I've tried them, and what they seem to do for me is almost give me like a stimulatory effect. Don't know if I get a cognitive boost. Like, I feel like, you know, I could definitely take things that'll increase my wakefulness, like caffeine will do that. But does that mean I'm actually thinking sharper
Starting point is 00:55:49 than I would if I was already kind of awake? Does that make sense? So it makes me think sharper mainly because I'm not feeling as tired. But let's say I wasn't tired, everything was fine, would it improve my cognitive performance and studies show that, no, like for example, Adderall, right?
Starting point is 00:56:03 They do studies on Adderall and people report that they feel smarter, but they actually do test and they find you don't. You just like what you're doing more. Yeah, you think you're smarter. So I don't know, it's very interesting. But the one that seems to be the most consistent, I'm with you is the pure.
Starting point is 00:56:18 All the race attempts, they can make me feel kind of crappy sometimes, or when I get headaches from this. Or when I come down, I don't feel good. Pure is one that I take regularly. We take it before we podcast. And now is that because the reason why we probably feel that way is because everything in it's all natural, is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:56:35 Natural, it's not super hyper strong. It's got lions, mane in there. It's got some other compounds in there that help. It's also got some gut health. And it's actually a nice compliment to caffeine, which obviously you guys know, I'm pretty much addicted to, but it's one of those things, like I can, I can get, I feel sharper,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and it really is the effect of it is only when I'm super consistent with it. So it'll take like a few times, and then I feel like it really starts to kick in like maybe the fifth or six time that I'm like using it and then I'm like you know on fire. Yeah. Another thing that seems to help some people is to do a ketogenic diet. So some people will report that when their body is running on ketones that they feel sharper or they're able to think faster. I'm like that.
Starting point is 00:57:26 So you guys know that I go on a ketogenic diet, maybe twice a year, and I do it specifically for that. I'll go on it because I want to get those mental benefits. I don't like the performance benefits that tend to lose strength on them or whatever, but when I do do it, I do notice that I get a little sharper in the way I do it. I notice the same thing, but I actually don't have
Starting point is 00:57:45 to be on the keto diet, you just fast. So I feel the same benefits by it. So there's something that if I have to do, a lot of times when I have an interview like on another show in the morning or whatever, I will. Yeah, I stay fasted and I just, I feel way sharper than if I were to go eat
Starting point is 00:57:58 like a 600 caliber breakfast. This is a booming segment of the supplement industry. I remember when we first started the podcast, how I would bring it up and it was kind of this new thing. I remember how we would speculate and I'd be like, you know, I bet you this is gonna be a huge part of the supplement industry. Where did it start?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Because I feel like it was in Navy SEALs. Yeah, Navy SEALs are like, yeah, like fighter pilots. Like I feel like that was like, you know what sound? Promoted. Well, they would take drugs, so they would take infetimines or medaphanil? Medaphanil was the big ones. That's the piter pides. But I thought the seals were the ones
Starting point is 00:58:31 that were using a racetim and all those that impressed the tibetimines. I don't know, I know that they're the prescription in Russia, I believe in Europe as well. But they're mixed, because I've given all, okay, so here's a deal. And the audience knows this, we've talked about this. I love experimenting with supplements, and I love experimenting with you guys with supplements
Starting point is 00:58:48 I'll get something sent to us and then I'll hand and you guys trust me which is wonderful I'll just say hey try this we're losing that far away Well come on At least 70% of time it's all good Because that 30% could you? I think it was 70%. Could you Google magic the origin of that? What, what, the more? Like, the orgin of neutropics?
Starting point is 00:59:10 Yeah, I think even the term neutropic was, I believe was a new one. I think they came out with that, like not even that many decades ago. What was it before? There wasn't one, there wasn't a term, neutropic. Yeah, so I think it's, it was like, maybe in the 70s or 60s, I might be wrong. Let's see if Doug finds it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there wasn't a term, neutropic. Yeah, so I think it was like maybe in the 70s or 60s,
Starting point is 00:59:25 I might be wrong, let's see if Doug finds it. Oh, no, it's 1972. Not weird how I remember reading shit like that. You could literally ask me, like where are we? Where are we? Where we keep the teaspoons in my house, and I'll be, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Jessica gets a one. That's how I am with commercial jingles, whatever. Yeah, but yeah, it's an exploding segment of the supplement industry, and I predict it to continue to explode, especially as the aging population continues to become more interested in taking supplements. And as we start to idolize people in tech, like 30 years ago, really smart people were not idolized.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Today, that's because tech is running the world. Now it's like this big thing. And so everybody's interested in making themselves smarter or whatever. So it's this exploding segment. But yeah, so far consistently, from what I've given you guys, some stuff gives you headaches,
Starting point is 01:00:17 some stuff makes you crash. I remember one time I gave Adam something, and then an hour later, he was like, he was done. He had to go home or was awful. Yeah, but the pure consistently. Is biohacking still a thing? I haven't seen, you know how it was pretty much in a lot of magazines, it was still the thing.
Starting point is 01:00:36 So it's still going strong. Oh hell yeah. Hell yeah, I haven't seen much from it. Silas, I haven't fallen into this category, would it be considered? You know what's funny? Microdosing. Yeah, microdosing, they haven't put them in that neutropic category, And does psilocybin fall under this category? Would it be considered? You know what's funny? Microdosing.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Yeah, microdosing, they haven't put them in that neutropic category, but they are finding that people get like positive mood effects from some of the stuff. And this is anecdotes, not a study yet to support it. And it's kind of getting popular here in Silicon Valley. In fact, there was a guy that was fired recently. It's very popular. It's stealing fire, the whole book is all about them.
Starting point is 01:01:04 There was a CEO, literally, who got fired for microdosing LSD. What? Maybe Doug can pull up. How did you open that up? I forgot. But Doug, look up CEO fired for microdosing and it should come up. Oh wow. And it was a tech CEO.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Here, huh? I think he was here in the mirror. Wow, how did no one bring this up? That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. And it was a relatively recent or what? Yes, it was not that. It was so who was it, Doug?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Does it say? Yeah, Justin Zew of Itterable Inc. They dismissed his CEO. Because he microdosed LSD at work. He told everybody. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I was gonna say it's like one of those things. First rule of fight club.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Dude, it's like the early days at him when we were in that podcast and we, we blocked that podcast, and we thought we were microdusty. Whoops, it was more of a macro toast. Yeah, yeah, that was not a good idea. It was a good choice. Wow, that's crazy. Next question is from Zilcus Chris.
Starting point is 01:01:57 How can I quit my sugar addiction once and for all? I have yo-yo eaten and have quit sugar my entire 32 year old life. This one, Adam, I have yo-yo eaten and have quick sugar my entire 32-year-old life. This one, Adam, I think this is your deal. Yeah, you know, this was actually something that I actually really liked the ketogenic diet for, or at least what I learned from it or got from it, right? So even though I don't follow a ketogenic diet, before that I was like a carb junkie, right? I was eating 400 to 600 grams of carbs every single day
Starting point is 01:02:26 and I love sugar and I crave sugar all the time. And so it's a constant battle. And I was always looking for things like hacks to like the rice cakes with cocoa whip and things like that to like, you know, satisfy that craving versus trying to find ways to like, you know, suppress it. And when I went on the ketogenic diet, I noticed that.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I noticed that it dramatically went down, like almost completely gone. And that was one of my favorite things about running it. Now, I don't think there's anything magical about the ketogenic diet so much as I think that when you run a higher fat, higher type of protein, either one or both type of a diet, opposed in a lower carbohydrate
Starting point is 01:03:05 diet, I think it totally makes a huge difference. So, you know, I've completely changed my macro profile. Now, like, I, somebody who was consistently eating 400 to 600 grams of carbohydrates, now I'm like 200. So it's nowhere near that. And I don't have those cravings. Like, I can't even tell you the last time I had canned. I'm sure I brought it up the last time I had candy
Starting point is 01:03:25 on the show. I don't even eat it that often where it was like a constant battle and struggle for me and same thing like with the ice cream. Yeah, anecdotally speaking, I don't know if there's any research to support this, but anecdotally sugar is one of those things that if you have it, you want more of this.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And if you don't have it, at least initially, you probably want it, right? So if you cut it out, you're gonna have kind of this, these cravings that might last a week or two. Then at some point, it's like you don't want it anymore. And this, I've noticed with myself, I've noticed with countless clients. And so the strategy to have a little bit of sugar
Starting point is 01:03:59 in your diet seems to not work for people who say that they have a sugar addiction. That's me, like it's all or nothing. It's like, I cannot do the, like Katrina has, she doesn't have a sugar addiction. So she can have a little bit of... She can buy a frickin' chocolate bar and put it in the freezer and have a square of it for the next two months. You know, and I do not have it. If I have one square, and even if I tell myself, I'm just gonna have one, I'll eat that one square, and then I'm thinking about that chocolate bar.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I'll keep chewing the year. Yeah, for the next couple of days. Like literally, like an attic. I totally feel like an attic when it comes to sugar, and of course I know why, because of how I ate it when I was growing up, all the way even through my 20s. So for me, one of the best things to kick the sugar addiction was running a higher fat or higher protein type of diet
Starting point is 01:04:44 in a lower carbohydrate. Doesn't mean you have to be all, like, you don't have to be ketogenic to where you're no carbohydrates, but stick to low. And then the carbs that I do intake are like low glycemic stuff like yams and sweet potatoes, quinoa, like those type of carbohydrates may be rice, like those types of carbohydrates. And if, if any, that I have in the diet and then predominantly protein and fat. Next question is from Haiti's Gray. What exercise should we and shouldn't we do when we are doing low reps?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Okay, so technically any exercise can be done with low reps, but some exercises just lend themselves better to low reps and others not so much. Typically generally speaking, it's the single joint isolation exercises that tend to not be so, done so well with low reps, and it's the compound lifts that tend to work better with low reps. Now, why is that? Well, when you're doing a single joint exercise,
Starting point is 01:05:38 like a side lateral, let's use that as an example, right? That's for the shoulders, right? When I'm doing low reps, when I'm doing first of all, when I'm doing that exercise, what I'm trying it first of all, when I'm doing that exercise, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to really isolate the lateral head of my shoulder. I'm trying to really feel it in my shoulder. If I wanted to, I could lift more weight
Starting point is 01:05:55 by utilizing the muscles of my upper back and my traps and momentum. Yeah, right. And so it just becomes so. And that takes away from the intent. Yes, and it becomes like such a struggle to do like four heavy reps of side laterals and not turn it into, you know, an upper back exercise,
Starting point is 01:06:11 which is very, very difficult. Now with squats or dead lifts or bench press, it's much easier to maintain good form and go low reps, but those isolation exercises, they can be a bit tough with the low reps. So it's okay to do lower reps, typically with the isolation exercises, they can be a bit tough with the low reps. So it's okay to do lower reps, typically with the isolation stuff, but I don't like to go below like eight reps with that kind of stuff, because I've just found, even with myself, my form starts to go
Starting point is 01:06:34 off of the next size thing for me. And I've seen this in the gym and the side laterals, a great example of when you see somebody like that, and they add a little English to it, it's like, now they're getting, you know, the small momentum that they're kind of thrust in their hips into it. You know, they're leaning back with their shoulders. You know, they're incorporating their upper back muscles
Starting point is 01:06:51 or just a lot more things have to happen to move that heavier weight up versus like really just honing in and doing what your intention is to really try to activate more specifically, you more specifically your deltoids in this. Now, we've answered this question several times in the show of the last five, six years, and every time we do, we always get somebody who messages somewhere and tries to argue or debate it, or here's the thing. This question's presented in shouldn't and should, and it's not a shouldn't and should. It's not black or white. Exactly, it's not black's not a shouldn't and should not block or why exactly
Starting point is 01:07:26 It's not black or white and nobody in here is saying that I've never done three reps of bicep curls So yes, I have done three reps of bicep curls before it's just they don't lend themself well to your point So I just want to make that clear because I know we'll get some knucklehead that will find that will feel the need to defend Low reps on a lateral raise or low reps on a bicep curl and say it's been the best thing for them or whatever. It's just it's not ideal. It doesn't mean you can't do it and there's not some value to it. Because I definitely did this not that long ago where I grabbed really heavy weight and did three reps of bicep curls really slowing control. But also the tempo of it.
Starting point is 01:08:05 So I was not using English on it. I was still was trying to control and have good form. It was just I couldn't get more than three reps out of it. So it doesn't mean that it's worthless. It doesn't mean that you can't do it. We just always come from a trainer's perspective. And when I think of... We know what tends to happen.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That's right. And when I think of 99% of my clientele, you're right. I would never do heavy lateral raises. I would never do concentration curls that where we would do less than six reps. So for the, we're not speaking to the exceptions. Yes. We're trying to give information
Starting point is 01:08:37 that like most people benefit from. Next question is from Pat Nori. What are things each of you preach but struggle to practice yourself? Oh, you know what's funny? Everything? No, it's true. It's 100% true. It's easy to communicate. And this is the key. And this is important. I think I'm talking to trainers right now. You got to be real and don't feel like you need
Starting point is 01:09:02 to be perfect in order to be a trainer. And what I mean by that is it's okay to continually seek to be the example for your clients, but don't be afraid to communicate them to them. The realness of what it's like to need healthy and get good sleep and exercise consistently, because they'll connect better with you. But the truth is, nothing we talk about on the show is easy. Now, we have ways of creating discipline around them. We have ways of, you know, making ourselves more consistent. There are things that I definitely struggle with more than others. So I'll give you an example of one that I preach, but I'm terrible at in terms of practice. And that's supplement
Starting point is 01:09:41 use. I talk all we always talk about all the time about how supplements aren't the answer and you don't need to take a million different things and yet I walk around with a bag full of supplements. I come to work every single day with the bag of supplements. I go in the back and I try different things all the time. I know this is you know something that I have a challenge with. I'm way better than I used to be to give myself a little credit. But I'm way far away from what's ideal. But I mean, none of this stuff is easy. In fact, that's probably what makes a trainer a better trainer is in fact, if I were to talk to somebody
Starting point is 01:10:15 about the struggles of supplement addiction, I would probably communicate it better than somebody who never had a struggle with it at all because I get it. I know what that's all about. But it's all hard, man, to maintain a fit healthy lifestyle requires more discipline and is more challenging than to live in some respects,
Starting point is 01:10:33 than to live a life of not exercising and eating whatever you want. Of course, that's reality is it's more challenging in many other ways as your health declines and all that other stuff. But that's also part of the reason why it's meaningful. If this was easy, I don't think we would value it nearly as much.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, I know personally, I am pretty consistent about what I'm doing with myself in terms of training and lifting weights and in terms of stuff that I have that athlete mentality that's still there, but with that comes the struggle of the nutrition side, which has always been one of those things that I knew even getting into personal training, I'm like, oh man, I gotta figure this out now. Before I was doing enough movement and everything was
Starting point is 01:11:18 working enough to where I was at typical stereotypical athlete where I would just kind of eat to fuel my needs. And it didn't really matter where the source was coming from. You know, I built in all these bad habits, like leading into that, which I didn't really address because my body was, you know, I had muscles, I had definition, I had all that stuff, but it was just because of the insane amount of activity I was, you know, a part of. And so, to really nail that in, it was a big struggle. And I actually sought a lot of help for it.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And I've incorporated people in that were professionals, dieticians, even like a personal chef. I'm bringing all this stuff into to try and build more value in what I was presenting my clients. And it's like, I have this built-in knowledge now that's pretty crazy, but it's also, to me, I just don't care enough about it personally to sit in the nuance of it in discuss it all the time.
Starting point is 01:12:17 It actually frustrates me that I don't care. It's much about, it just drives me crazy. And it's a struggle, but it also like I know how to manipulate things personally and how to navigate through it and the knowledge is there. The application of it has always been a bit of friction for me. Mobility. So and I'm dealing with this right now. So I do really well with giving myself a goal and getting really focused on that specific goal. And the last couple years, a big part of that was mobility, right? I made a real conscious effort to say, okay, I'm going to get a deeper squat. I'm going to eliminate this back pain and hit pain
Starting point is 01:12:59 that I'm dealing with. And I thought I did a great job. But I also completely just, I knew in order to do that, I had to let go of strength goals, let go of how I looked, it's all about how I felt and moved and I had a lot of success with that. In the last, I would say, I don't know, eight months or so, maybe close to a year now, I've transitioned back into building my aesthetic physique again and I'm enjoying it.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I'm back to sending my wife naked photos again and stuff because I'm feeling myself. You know, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm is because I got so focused in that direction, I've laid off of the discipline that I had built the previous two years and doing my 99 knees in my combat. Now, what's cool is that in that time, I did build enough good habits that like I still have an incredibly deep squad. I showed a video of me still being able to do that barefoot and I've made a lot of progress there.
Starting point is 01:14:06 But I've been battling with my hip pain again and I'm battling that because I know I'm not putting the work into my 90-90s like I should be and you know and I'm also focused on building a body right now more so than that. So what I struggle with and probably will always is knowing that it's all those things that I should be addressing and I tend to do really well focused on one thing or another versus like being a little more balanced with my training. And so I'm there again, you know, with that trying to balance myself out. And I don't know if I'll ever end. I think the thing that's important and it's kind of to Justin's point is you know, like you, is being aware, right?
Starting point is 01:14:47 Being aware that that's your issue and then just never allowing, because we're just talking to somebody, about talking about balance, how there's no such thing as like real balance. Like real balance is you're focused in one area, then you shift your weight over to another, you shift your weight to another place, like the same way that you would ride a surfboard or a snowboard or skateboard, you're never skateboard you're never perfectly balanced on the board. You're always kind of, as life is changing, you're navigating a little left, a little right. And so I think that your pursuit and journey to be very healthy and fit and longevity is kind of like that.
Starting point is 01:15:18 I don't know if you're ever perfectly balanced. Sometimes one thing you're focused on a little more another. And so, you know, that's definitely my challenge. I'm not as good on my mobility right now because I'm focused the other way. Yeah, I think there's a mistake too when people idolize their, whatever, their coaches. Let's just stick with fitness. As like, that's the ideal. And the problem with that is that they're human.
Starting point is 01:15:43 We're all human. Nobody is perfect. Everybody has their challenges. And there's a long way to fall when you put someone on that high of a pedestal. I've seen people like, you know, like it's like that, that train or that fitness influencer
Starting point is 01:15:56 and then someone sees the meeting of burger and takes a picture and posts it. And everybody's like, oh, yeah. He eats a burger too. Like, well, yeah, I mean, you know, he's also human. He also lives here just like we're rest of us. Well, yeah, I mean, he's also human. He also lives here just like when we rest in the room. Well, not only that, but they also are, you know, you're normally idolizing them
Starting point is 01:16:09 for like one aspect of their life. And you have no idea about how out of balance they probably are and other things, just to my point, like you're never really that balanced. You're kind of, and if you like, you're so focused right now, your personal journey is I just want wanna get fit and shredded and my coach is just amazing to see
Starting point is 01:16:28 and it comes so easy for him and this, but then what you might not realize is he's got a shit relationship with his wife and his kids and you have an amazing one because you prioritize that more than he does. So be careful, like you say, of idolizing these coach. But it's all hard, it's all hard. You're living in a world that you're surrounded
Starting point is 01:16:46 by fast, easy, extremely tasty food. Life is inactive, it's designed that way. It's not designed to be super physically demanding, which is a good thing, but of course, challenges come with that. We're brought up in this kind of world to value food for its taste. We're taught to value things for how they make us feel rather than how they make improve our health.
Starting point is 01:17:12 So it's a struggle. You live in this, it's going to be tough. You have to make conscious decisions every day. It's tough. And so we struggle with all the stuff that we preach. Of course, we talked about the ones that we struggle the most with, but we struggle with all of them. The difference is this is what we've made our career around. This is what we love to practice and train with the most. And when we communicate, by the way, what you're hearing from us is our experience, but mainly what you're hearing is of the clients that we've worked with and their experience, because my experience is coming from a person
Starting point is 01:17:45 who loves fitness and works in fitness, probably not gonna relate to you as much if you're the average person, but I can tell you a lot about what worked for people that I've worked with, who are very similar to you, who don't have any plans on working out six days a week, who probably realistically are only gonna ever work out
Starting point is 01:18:02 consistently two or three days a week, who have no desires to Do what it takes to get a six pack, but want to be fit and healthy They have no desire to eat perfectly, but they want to eat in a way that you know Not only to enjoy how they eat, but they also want to have longevity And so that's what you're here is a communicate all the time, but it's hard. It's hard and hey, but that's a good thing. That's what makes it Meaningful look if you lack our information you like like our content, head over to MindPumpFree.com. We've got so many guides there that can help you and they cost nothing. They're all totally free.
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