Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1566: How to Troubleshoot Not Losing Weight When Dieting, the Pros & Cons of Diet Breaks, How Long it Takes to Speed-Up a Slow Metabolism & More

Episode Date: June 2, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how long it takes for a metabolism to recover, what to do when the scale doesn’t move when cutting, the value of diet breaks, and the pros and cons of the suicide grip for bench pressing. The best Disney songs to make love to. (4:04) Why Adam is taking a break from cannabis. (8:52) Justin doesn’t do ANYTHING easy. (15:30) Dad life updates with Mind Pump. (23:42) Mind Pump Workouts: The importance of training frequency. (30:47) Adam is bringing his A-game for 40! (34:17) The benefits of walking for all aspects of your life. (37:40) Why the guys are SOLD on Caldera. (42:01) Some Gremlins trivia you may have not known. (43:50) Amazon’s cheap hack strategy to make money. (48:40) #Quah question #1 - How long does it take to speed-up a slow metabolism? (53:02) #Quah question #2 – What to do when the scale doesn’t move when cutting? (57:14) #Quah question #3 – What are your personal opinions on diet breaks? (1:01:19) #Quah question #4 – What are the pros and cons of the suicide grip for bench pressing? (1:07:17) Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS Prime, Prime Pro, and the Prime Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “JUNEPRIME” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout* Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Gremlins movie: Cult film's dark side you never knew How MGM Helps Transform Amazon Prime Video Why The Scale Is Not Always The Best Way To Measure Progress – Mind Pump Blog The Most Effective Single Step You Can Take to Lose Fat – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Alright, in today's episode, we answered questions, fitness and health questions, but the first part of the episode is an intro portion, where we talk about current events,

we talk about cool scientific studies, we tell fun stories. Yeah, fun. The intro portion was 48 minutes long, after that we got to the fitness question. So we open up by talking about the best Disney songs to make love to. Yeah, that's a great conversation there.

I wanna hear your thoughts. Then we talked about Adam's cannabis break. He's gonna be off cannabis for a little while and explains why. Then we to hear your thoughts. Then we talked about Adam's cannabis break. He's going to be off cannabis for a little while and explains why. Then we'll be less fun. Then we talked about dreams and sleep, which led us to talking about a product from organifi called organifi gold juice.

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forward slash MindPump. Use the code MindPump and get 20% off. Then Justin tells us all about his face. Something happened to his face the other day and it hurt. Yeah. Then I'd real trauma there. Then we talk about baby food and baby night duty. Us dads here trying to do a good job.

Then we talk about workout frequency and how our bodies are affected by how frequently we work out. Then Adam talks about his 40th fitness target. He'll be turning 40 pretty soon. I know he looks like he's 50, but he actually turning 40 and he talks all about. Yeah, his abs, dude.

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I have oily skin. Both of us look amazing because we use Caldera products. Thank you, Caldera. And of course, we have a discount for you. So go check them out. Go to calderalab.com, C-A-L-D-E-R-A-L-A-B.com, forward slash mine pump.

Use the code mine pump get 20% off. Then we talk about gremlins and dangerous chimps. And then finally we talk about Amazon and James Bond. That's pretty typical. Then we got to the fitness questions. The first question, this person wants to know how long it takes to repair a slow metabolism. The second question, this person is slowly reverse dieting

so they're increasing their calories. Now they're trying to cut and nothing's happening. So what's the deal? The third question, this person wants to know about diet breaks or opinion. And the fourth question, this person wants to know the pros and cons of the suicide grip or the thumbless grip for bench press.

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Send the name I just read to iTunes at minepumpmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Hey, do you guys know that we got one of our videos got demonetized on YouTube? Really? Yeah. You know why?

We put the clip of rad on, you know, that shitty movie you guys like so much. Stop doing that. Don't say shitty. And it was the clip where... It's mean. It was the clip where the guy is doing like, I don't know what he's doing, like slow motion trick.

It's like send me an angel. Oh, send me an angel. Because of the song, because it has like a, you know, like a, I don't know, it's got like some kind of a program that recognizes music, demonetized. It's not a bit, it's not a bit, it's not a big deal though because I mean, Andrew, you don't know this yet, but I had Holly pull that out of your check.

So yeah. So when you fuck up like that, we just, but I had Holly pull that out of your check. So yeah. So. So when you fuck up like that, we just, we just deducted from his pay. That's not your fault. What's that be one of the, that what's that be one of the one's viral? Yeah, no.

Made us $10,000. I'm not a sickle right Andrew? Yeah, because even on my Instagram, like all of these really old posts that had like a little bit of music in the background. Yeah, it's like this is pulled, you know, they're just going through and clean house right now. Yeah, they are.

It's pretty crazy. You know, what's that one, there was like a meme or something that while I go that said that, if you ever make a sex tape with your wife or whatever, you put Disney music in the back. Yeah, so if anybody ever posts it, can't go viral. That's pretty, that's actually pretty brilliant.

That is a really smart way to do it. There's only one challenge to that. It's like picking Disney music to your sex video. You know what I mean? Yeah, where would you guys go? What would you do? Show me the world. I can show you the world.

Under the sea. I feel like a lad in this probably very well. I don't have the best soundtrack. Hold on for sex? Yeah, really? Really? Okay, but what's the best Disney song for sex? I thought I'd say, yeah, it's a mask-y guy.

I don't have to think of it. If you had to pick a movie that you, that it came from in Disney work. We're, we're, we're, we're, that's Titanic. Yeah, that's not a, that's not a, that's not a, that's the wrong game. Gotta go cartoon, good. Hey babe, I'm going down.

Listen, Titanic music. Hey, cartoon classic, go. Which one? Come on. Cartoon classic. Disney cartoon classic that you're having sex to I want to hear that I'm having sex to yeah, I take a lad and you can't take it so you get take I I think it would be something from the little mermaid because I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie you would be a little mermaid. She's kind of hot bro. She's got the seashell the seasale thing going on

Yeah, but you you okay, that's I don't know bro. You tell me with video my sex to yeah, or which song? Justin was I don't know man, okay, I don't really bro. You tell me what video my sex to yeah or which song Justin I don't know man, okay, I don't really even remember like other than a cool Prope yeah, you gotta be super into it Lion King little mermaid I called it. Yeah, I said a lot. I think a lot of it. When they're writing on the carpet, like there's some like,

show me the world, right? Isn't that the song? Is that show me the world when he picks her up from the, Andrew, don't put the song on by the way. Yeah, he's so good. He wants to do that. I do.

Buy that. Yeah, that one. Yeah, that's what I know. What's your favorite just general Disney movie? Sword and Stone. Sword and Stone. That's a good one. I like Robin Hood. Yeah, Sword and Stone was the one that I watched over and over.

Do you guys remember, I only watched it a few times, it was really good. The Fox and the Hound I think it was called? It was good one too. That was pretty good. It's not one of those more popular ones. A Risto Cats? Well, the one I, so Sword and the Stone is like one of the oldest.

So it's, I think. Yeah, yeah. Look at the date on Sword and the Stone, Disney classic. I wanna say, Adam Lackis says Stone. No, that's not why. Speaking of that, you know, I haven't smoked weed in quite a while.

Really? I like what, 24 hours for you. No, no, no, I'm on like two weeks right now. Really? Yeah. Why? I guess you're all interested. Well, I guess I'm gonna announce this.

Now, I wasn't planning on actually talking about this yet, but you just reminded me that and you're calling it out. You switching to heroin? By the way, 1963. 63. Wow, isn't that crazy? talking about this yet, but you just reminded me that and you're calling it out. You switching to heroin? By the way, 1963. 63. Wow, isn't that crazy? That's pretty old, but Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty are from the 50s, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, they're old and fake and sold.

Isn't Bambi the very first one? No, Snow White. Oh, Snow White's the first one. Yeah. Really? Yeah. The first feature. Bambi was the one that ruined most of kids' childhoods by seeing frickin' it.

It's your 1937. It gets shot. Wow. 19ambi was the one that ruined most of kids' childhoods by saying, 1937, get shot. 1937, 1937. What you think about how brilliant that would have that must have been back in 1937. It's like a feature animated feature film, you know, that's probably blue people's minds. Well, I just think of how brilliant Walt Disney was period just to have the foresight to build an empire.

Bro, talk about like when was Disneyland built? I want to know that because imagine the risk at building in 1955 or 1950. Yeah, you're building a land like you know how big Disneyland is like that's a huge investment for your kids. Yeah, for a bunch of kids who don't have money. Yeah, you know, parents will totally bring their kids here to spend lots of money. Yeah, it's a big, a lot of crazy mass of bet. All right, so I want to hear what you're doing.

What's going on 1956 You're a close dog you still win. Yeah, it's a long time I'm quitting for a while why just because okay. Yeah, it's like like on signfield master your domain You know, no, it was not remember that episode. Yeah, I just I just do yeah, where they he doesn't masturbate for a long Just to prove that he has control. Right. Yeah, you know, I would be harder than quitting. Yeah. Yeah, I think.

Yeah, yeah, it would be. Well, it depends. Can you have sex? If you have sex and not masturbate, I don't think it's that hard. But to both, that would be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not making the 40 days. So one thing I respect about you, Adam, you tend to do that, right?

You'll just, I'll do the same thing. I'll just say, hey, I don't want to do caffeine for a while or whatever anymore, but I appreciate that about you. But what made you, it was just out of the blue or were you like, hey, I'm using it too much? Well, yeah, no, actually I wasn't using it that much lately. In fact, ever since Max, I've reduced consumption, but I have consistently been smoking

for the longest stretch of my life. Like as far as like not taking, like I used to, when I first started to smoke weed, it would be very intermittently, used to be more like a party. In fact, for a long time, I never even bought it because- It was just if it was there. Yeah, it was there. Yeah, like it enjoy it, it's a good time or what that. And then actually, because I've talked about when I started the cannabis clubs, I was

not smoking it before that. And so then it was all about research. So I have this strain come in, so I do it just to talk about it or whatever. And then because I had a flood of it all the time, I never had to purchase it or buy it personally. So I had access to it whenever I felt like it. And then afterwards, and after that was in know in my past long long ago, you know

Because it's now been almost 10 years I had to start buying again, and then I remember like I had went to this little like Jesus I kind of pay for the shit the sucks like this. I don't want to pay for this habit or whatever so You know, I would go kind of back and forth on that then it became like a consistent thing where I'd buy and bulk and I keep in these big Mason jars so it stays fresh for a long time and I've've caught myself being very consistent with not taking long scented break. So I'm going to take a long scented break. I'm not going to come out here and say I'm done smoking.

Are you feeling any... Because I've done that and I'll go off for like a month or two months completely. And I'll use it. I'll say a few times a week on average. And after about week, I wanna say two or three, I definitely noticed withdrawal sometimes. And what it was for me was my sleep. So I'd have these really vivid, crazy dreams. And my sleep wasn't good.

I noticed I wasn't sleeping very good. Well, so I'm definitely asleep. So that's the thing that I'm noticing more than anything is dreaming, right? So if you, and this doesn't happen to everybody, I believe it definitely happens to me, like you don't dream when you smoke. And since I only really smoke at night, right before bed,

I'd never really dream. If I ever dream, it's because I woke up at like three in the morning to go pee and then I go back to sleep and then from four to like six, I dream. But now, because I'm not smoking at all, I'm having all kinds of dreams. So I've been having all these crazy vivid dreams. Although I was mentioning before the podcast,

I didn't get the greatest of sleep last night. Sleep has been fine. No withdrawal. That's one of the things that I think is great about cannabis for the most part. I think anything can become habitual, and people become become addicted to even if it doesn't have addictive chemical properties. Totally.

So I do think that. I'll tell you what, the physical withdrawals from caffeine are a billion times worse. Oh yeah. Then they are. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'd like to go off caffeine and it's just fine. Well, because there's a chemical dependency.

Yeah. Right, we're cannabis association when you wake up. It's like part of ritual. Well, there's a chemical dependency, right? Where cannabis association when you wake up, it's like part of ritual. So that's the hardest part that I'm having to, that is just like part of one of the things I loved and enjoyed about cannabis is that, you know, after I've had a long work day, I've played with my son, I've cleaned the house,

and like he's in bed at 7.30 at night, like now it's my time, it's my time. Either I'm going to do research for the podcast, or I'm going to be reading on real estate stuff, or I'm going to watch a good movie, and I like to do that deep in thought, and when I take a couple hits off the joint, I go deep. I feel like me and Adam are always on opposite schedules. Now you're having a rampant it up, but you know, we can't warrior. I mean, I just do like a, you know, five milligram. You're edible guy.

You're an edible guy. So, but I wait, you know, until it's at night, everybody's asleep, you know, I'm trying to chill. And yeah, it's just one of those things. I've been trying to actually replace that with, you know, alcohol consumption, just to kind of give a break from that. So I guess I've been kind of taking myself off of that

because as I've been doing good things for my training. So there's no comparison in terms of which one makes you feel worse is alcohol. Oh yeah, by far. You know what I have noticed? It's actually really cool though, is because weed has always been kind of the thing that like chills me out and relaxes me.

I've been like messing with all of our supplements that we get all the time, right? And I'm using gold juice again. And so I feel like because I'm not doing anything else, like weed is so much stronger, right? And because I'm not doing that, I feel the effects of that better. So that kind of mellows me out more. Well, that's good, too, because the gold has lots of anti-inflammatory compounds in it. So one of the things about cannabis is obviously it's got cannabinoids, right?

And they're the systemically anti-inflammatory. And so sometimes when people go off, they notice that they're a little bit more stiff, because here's what happens, right? You're flooding your body with phyto cannabinoids. Your cannabinoid receptors do down-regulate. This is why you'll need more cannabis to get the same effect. So then when you go off, now you have less of these cannabinoid receptors do down regulate. This is why you'll need more cannabis to get the same effect. So then when you go off, now you have less of these cannabinoid receptors

and they do up regulate again. It just takes a little while. Plus, they don't know if this is what happens. I don't, I have yet to see a study that shows this, but I would guess that there's a feedback loop when you're taking cannabinoids, that your body then stops or produces less of its own. So when you go off, you're producing less cannabinoids, lower cannabinoid receptor density.

So you may notice that you're gonna get a little bit more stiff and inflamed. And the gold juice is, I mean, full of anti-inflammatory. So what do you, I mean, I'm not, so I used it also with the net. So I took the droppers of the net and then I did the organified orange juice. Do you do the gold juice like frost like with milk? Like that's a whole milk for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all my milk whip it and it's amazing. Whip it good. Heat it up. Heat it up too. So I don't know if you guys heated up. So I'll heat it up. Whip it and then mix it and it's it almost I

almost feel like I'm having like hot cocoa at night. So it's a yeah. So it's nice it's relaxing. I can I make I do that with the Ned, the combination of the two of them together is giving me a similar kind of a chill fill. So I was doing all of it last night because dude, I came home, I wasn't so much pain dude. And it's all my fault. Like your teeth, right? My teeth, I went to go see my friend, Dr. Rao.

And he did my fronts and did like the veneers and everything, I just had the bottoms done, but that wasn't the only thing I had done while I was there. So I had been experiencing pain in my tooth that's in the very back while I was on vacation and this was like a month ago, and I was like, ah, like just trying to grin and bear it and figure out, I'm like, I'm eventually gonna see him.

So no big deal, right? I get in there, he's like, well, you broke your tooth and half. And so, are you a grinder? Is that why? Do you grind it, nine? How do you break your teeth and home of grinder, dude? Yeah, he's that guy in the closet.

I'm saying. No, no, no. No, yeah, I set you up. You got any clothes in? Yeah, stupid. I am. I am. I've done a lot of damage to my teeth because of that. Like, I don you up. You got any clothes. Yeah, stupid. I am. I have done a lot of damage to my teeth because of that.

Like, I don't know. You don't do any manifesto night. You're like, you're like everything's hard. Exactly. There's not a damn thing you do slow. Or easy. And again, like it works for some things, but like there's a lot of things.

Like I pay the price for it, right? So this is one of those things where I just, like I didn't realize, I mean, I did realize there was something massively wrong, where I just, I, like, I didn't realize, I mean, I did realize there was something massively wrong, but I just was trying to kind of put it off. And he's like, he goes in there and he's like, oh my God. And it finds two abscesses on both, you know, underneath both. So I'm on antibiotics now. And so he's like, dude, we just got to take it out. And so they just ripped it out. Oh. And, uh, and then sutured it. Meanwhile, I still have like, this is major work, just ripped it out. Oh. And then sutured it. And meanwhile, I still have like,

this is major work. Just grinding it down to spikes and then having to put the other like temps on. So my mouth is just like, like I was driving home and I was just like this big beach ball face. You know, to have a fight. You had to fight everybody.

I was in a really on-re mood. Oh, night. Oh, that's soft. Yeah, dude. So okay, we were interrupting you. It's, what causes it? Does he tell you or do you know like, oh, the grinding?

Yeah. I still haven't been able to figure that out because my mom, I don't know if it is it when you, only when you sleep or is it all throughout the day, like what's your, it's only when I sleep. I mean, I guess I could track if I was working out and typically they'll tell you like if you're lifting heavy weights and stuff and you have this issue,

like you're probably also doing it as you're lifting weights so you should probably wear a mouthpiece or whatever. But so I'm probably gonna have to just start wearing a mouthpiece again even though they fixed my bite. You know what else you do that I do too, that you may have to watch is, so I went and saw, this was a long, this is before my pump, this is bad, there was a time when I was drinking like two, three rock stars

a day, like every day. Oh yeah. And went and saw my dentist and she said that there's something in those, in those, in those, in a road's enamel. Yes. And so I was getting, I was getting holes and it was, and when I quit drinking them completely cold turkey It all got better. You know you can heal your teeth. Yeah, yeah, I didn't do I didn't have to do any work That's what I was trying to do with this. It was not where I was the damage had been done It's so weird with that kind of stuff Well yours is your grinding but when it comes to cavities and stuff very strange like I've never had a cavity in my entire life It has to do with the I guess, the microbiome.

Some people, they are just super prone, like my sister, always had very, very prone to cavities. Well, you know, I, this is what, I used to think that Dennis were my total scam, too, because I, as a kid, I'm serious, right? You're like anti-anything, I know. I'm very skeptic, dentist, I'm foolish. No, I'm skeptical of it.

Well, there's always a reason though, listen, Linda. Listen, it's not that, it's not like I just saw, I think you all just, whatever. No, I'm skeptical of it. Well, there's always a reason though. Listen Linda, listen, it's not that, it's not like I just, oh I think you all would just, whatever. Yeah, I did. It's not like I just say dentists are all like scam artists. It's that one I have a story for when I was a kid. Okay, my parents took me to the dentist.

Like I can't remember exactly how old I was, but I hadn't been in years and I think we finally went. Maybe the job that my dad at the time finally had, had some sort of insurance so we could go or something, actually no, it didn't because we went. I find out I had like nine cavities. And we couldn't afford to do nothing about it. So my mom says, oh, we'll let you fuck, you know. Oh wow.

Stop eating so much candy or whatever. Hey, we're screwed. Hey, go play with the pony that we bought. Yeah. Go get on the quad. We might be free of birthday. This is your, this is before. No, I didn't get a quad, bro.

That's how you get out of here. I did not get a quad. Oh my bad. Yeah, they got shit for themselves, right? So, I, you know, years went by. This is all before that, actually. Years went by, probably, least three, four plus years went by, and I went like buttercup.

I'm trying to think of the name of the pony. You know what? I think buttercup. I wonder, I can't even tell you, I have to wear. He's all mad at buttercup throwing the food at him. Fucking, I can't do shit with my cavities. I don't remember our horses name.

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Yeah, had nine. And nine before and I have none, so, but maybe, I guess they could heal themselves. They can heal themselves, however, so I used to train a dental. Depends how deep it goes, right? I used to train a dental surgeon, and he used to tell me, oh yeah, there are a lot of bullshitters out there.

They'll tell you you need all these different procedures that you don't. So to date now, if there's anything ever that we need done, I always run it by him and he'll tell me. Okay, see, so there is some validity. Oh yeah, brother, there's scam artists in every field, totally. Especially ones that you don't, you can't check.

Like, if a dentist tells you that you need some shit done, like, most people aren't gonna go to another dentist for you that's you know, you need some shit done like Most people aren't gonna go to another dentist I'm gonna get a second opinion. Yeah, you just don't do that Isn't the wisdom teeth is another common one right so a lot of people pull them out don't even need it I never pull my wisdom. I either die. Yeah, yeah I'm the room and look at all the shit you deal with now I think Justin just needs a good cry. That's what I think. He doesn't let it out.

So just, ah, fucking. And the tears want to come out and he points it. To me some truth there. Do you wear a mouth guard at night? I used to. Yeah, I used to. Well, because this was the whole thing of why I wanted to kind of redo my whole situation

was we could reconfigure it so I had a better bite, which my bite wasn't aligning properly. And so I was getting, you know, when I would grind, it would do like a lot more damage. Yeah. And so I was having no problem with that, but I guess I'd been ramping it up again. So now when you have veneers, does it protect from that happening or do you have to actually take care of them a certain way? Because I mean, they're, I don't think you get cavities in there. They're way more... Well, not cavities, but can you still grind them down and stuff out there? Oh, yeah. Not the same. You probably fucked up your gums.

They're way stronger. Oh, really? Yeah, then your real teeth. Yeah, so he's got like that. You guys know that villain from James Bond? You know, I'm talking about... That's a real jaws. Yeah, that's Justin now. Just kill people with that.

I'm fucking bite you. Dude, I did the ones chip my front tooth because I have this habit of when I like play with babies or anything that's cute I do that. I Didn't you say there's an evolutionary theory behind that? That's the theory is that because you chew the food up for them Yeah, when we would feed our babies of you know thousands years ago We would chew the food because they have no you know we'd have food processors So we chew their their meat and then we'd spit it in some food. I do it with puppies and babies.

Just squeeze your jaw. Yeah, I'm playing with my arms. Yeah, I lock my jaw like that all the time. So cute. It's so hard not to do either. Yeah, do you do it? Do you ever notice? I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know if I do that. Yeah, I think you brought it up on a show a long time ago and I just thought that was something weird that I always Is weird I mean remember it's a theory right that's the theory, but because it is strange Why that first off? Why do we say things like I want to you know? I want to bite this baby's hand off or I want to squeeze him so hard that whatever like that's like Why would you want to do that to make you kill you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and what I bite my. Well, no, I always thought that I just assumed that it was just something I did, right?

Or a corky habit. Super common. Yeah, but the fact that you brought that up and said you do the same thing. And I only notice it with puppies and babies. If I'm playing with a puppy or do the same thing, I'm doing something the same thing when I'm playing with masks.

But speaking of which, so we've been feeding my son now like some solids, right? So we've been giving him like, serenity kids has that beef, sweet potato, like mix or whatever. And this kid is, do you try it first? Huh?

Have you tried his food? No, I haven't tried his food. Yeah, I'm just curious. Not at all. So he might get it, would. No, I don't know. He does seem like it. I mean, it was acid, it's already digested.

Yeah, somebody get all butthurt because I made the comment about Gerber foods and sugar in their food. You know that? Why would they get butter? I can't work at Gerber. Maybe who knows? I got a DM, say like Gerber.

No, they just said we were, they said we were, you know, I forgot what they said. People always call us some name or some sugar. You said harsh on them. Well, yeah, that we were demonizing your baby food. Or what would they mean? Easy guy.

Oh, there's some foods healthier than others. Yeah, that's all. I'm all, I was making the case was the sugar, right? or whatever, I mean, easy guy. Oh, there's some foods healthier than others. Yeah, that's all. I was making the case was the sugar, right? You know, babies naturally, at a certain, when they're really young, they create enzymes to break out, break down proteins and fats, but the enzymes to break down carbohydrates,

they don't produce until later. Yeah, so it's, there you go. And if you notice, like, when you, if you're a parent that has the opportunity to grind your vegetables and fruit and stuff like that up for your baby, like, you will not need to add any sugar to it. No. They will eat it just fine.

And they learn, right? Because, so, first off, thank God. I don't know. There's this saying in Sicilian that your kids either going to be a bad sleeper or a bad eater, like, you're not going to get both. And this seems to be true with my son, right? He doesn't sleep well, but he eats. Thank God.

So when we feed him, the kid is like, in fact, he's a machine, you have to pause, and you have to like gauge how much you're giving him. Cause he'll just keep going until he, oh wow. Yeah, until he can't breathe anymore. So really? And he gets real frustrated.

We'll be like, all right, you're done. He's like, I love him. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We are not letting grandma feed him. Because she'll just go ape shit with him and turn him into an obesity, you know, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, she breast feeds them first and then, and you're right, we have to do a schedule because like I said, he'll just keep eating, especially if it's that beef sweet potato mix, or you know what she did yesterday, she cooked liver. So real liver, cooked it, smashed it up,

and then you know, kind of, you know, so that he could eat it and then put breast milk in it to make it a little softer. Liver, nothing, no seasoning, nothing. The kid loved it. Then she did a fish row, salmon eggs. You ever eat salmon eggs? That's fishy as hell.

And she's given it to him and he's making his face. But then he's like, I want more. So anyway, now I'm fishing bait. Now I notice he's getting a little like huskier. So he's like sitting down and I'm like, oh yeah, little tiny big roll tank. That was one of those areas that I was wrong, right? So honey, you'll appreciate this. I was wrong, she was right. that I was wrong, right? So, honey, you'll appreciate this.

I was wrong, she was right. I was like, because she's very like, this is what time we feed, you know, on the schedule. I'm like, no, he'll tell us when we start. Yeah, so I was more like, don't worry, he's fine. He's fine, we're playing, we're doing this stuff like that. Like, I'll get around to feed him and-

And you're behind the eight ball. Well, and so that was she was trying to make that case all the time. She was, you know, trust me, she goes, I've already done this. You think it's gonna be okay, but then watch how crabby and hearingable he gets later. He doesn't know he's hungry, but he is hungry.

And so he'll get distracted playing all this time with you. And then two hours, three hours go by. And then he's pissed and he's angry. Or you feed him dinner and he eats enough then, but he's still hungry because he didn't get enough calories. So he wakes up at two o'clock in the morning. So she's like, you can go get him at two o'clock. Okay, you're like, cause of fact.

Hey, okay, you win. I learned that lesson. Don't argue with mom with the stuff that she's only having. Cause I learned the lesson with sleep. Cause I'm like, you know, maybe he's just not trying, you know, because he's having trouble in the app. I'm like, maybe he's just not tired.

Maybe we should just wait or whatever. She's like, okay, you could try that. Then you can have to deal with him. I said the same thing for the same thing. And sure enough, you just get over tired. And then he's like, okay, you could try that. Then you can have to deal with them. I said the same thing for the same thing. And sure enough, you just get over tired. And then he's like, yeah. So last night, you know, the same thing we put him down and she goes, she spends like,

she was like up there for 45 minutes trying to put him down. Finally, she comes down. She's like, I gotta like take a break and he's up there crying, whatever. So I'm like, let me try. And I don't, I'm 90% of time it's her or more, 95% of time.

So I went up there, he's not used to, and it's hilarious. I go up there, I put my hand on his back kind of rub him, he starts looking around. And I know he's trying to see if it's Jessica or if it's B, right? Yeah. As soon as he realizes to me, so that I pick him up and I'm holding him, he's looking for her. And I'm like, oh, this is this little shit, man. He wants mom so bad. You know, 30 minutes later, she comes up and he's so happy to see her, he just goes right to sleep. So I'm like, honey, here's a strategy.

I go up, disappoint him. You come in and you save him and then he goes to sleep. Now I'm lucky, we actually, so when we early on, I actually did a lot of the putting him down. So although that's transition now, so now she does this a lot because we have our little one. Now who wakes up in the night if he needs to go back down? Well, he never does, but when he did back when he did,

she always, Katrina's handled that always. Like I have never, in fact, I think I can count on one hand how many times, and this is not me, like I'm sure a bunch of people are gonna shame me for this, but they're terrible fathers. No, my fucking wife is amazing, that's all. She just respects that, you know, I've got long days, I do a lot of other stuff, and so she handles the nights.

So once he goes down, if he does get up, she would get him, but he sleeps through the night every single night. The only difference is if he gets up at 5 a.m. or 6, and I told you guys about what happens if he'll come in the bed then. But early on, I used to do, I did a lot of putting him down, or I wanted to, I really liked it.

Like, I really, like, he's passed the age now. Like, you can't rock him anymore. He's too big. Yeah. So, like, your kids, huge. Yeah, he's too big for that. He's tall. And that just, that transition.

That picture you posted, I couldn't believe I wasn't on the one. That, that, that transition just happened, like, maybe two months ago. He's got to be over the 90th percentile for his, yeah, yeah, for his, for his height and stuff he is now. He used to be under, right? Because he was a premium. So he was under for a long time and then he sprouted up and he's now passed everything. So yeah, he's now...

So it was like, I want to say like a month or so ago, we were in this transition of Katrina starting to almost always put him down. But then every once in a while, she said, can you do you want to put him down? I'm like, yeah, yeah, I want to put him down and put him down in a while. And I loved to rock him. Like I love to sit in the rocking chair. It's like my jam. Yeah, it's one of my favorite things to do. And you know, he just recently he was in that phase where he just kind of he rolls around and finally gets comfortable. When he passes out on me and then I put him in his bed, he's just he's too big now.

He can't get comfortable on me. And so I was trying to rock him and he was you could tell he's getting frustrated. And I put him in bed and he went right to sleep. He was more comfortable on his bed on that. Oh, that phase is over. Did you guys ever read that book? It'll make you cry if you did. Where?

Did you tell him about the giving? No, that one too. That one's terrible. No, there's the one where it's like a boy, his mom is taking care of him. I think it's called, I love you forever or something like that. And it shows that mom rocking him, taking care of him. I think it's called I love you forever or something like that And it shows that mom rocking him taking care of him Oh, and then she gets all at the end and you take care of her and she's old at the very end

She's like old and dying and he's rocking her putting her down and I'm like, wow. Yeah, I did see that. Yeah Oh, my god me too broke into the chills. I read that book. I'm like this destroyed me Why would you even make this book? Yeah, I don I read that. It's just to make you break that. Yeah, oh man. Anyway, I want to talk about working out here for a second because first of all, how's your guys' training going? It's pretty good. Mine's been going really well.

I mean, as of today, I'm like trying to keep it easy so I don't like tear anything else in my face. But you know, it was actually I was really starting to dial it in and get the nutrition going with it as well and add just a smidge in of cardio. Just a smidge in. What's your what are you doing for cardio? Just my my salt bike. I'll do it for 10 minutes. Get that stamina. So it's a little bit of you know, some

intermittent sprints. So you're doing weights with cardio. Resisting training with cardio. Yeah, exactly. That's the way to do it. That's my jam. I did. I can every time I do this, it blows me away. My body just responds better to frequency than anything else. Anything else. Free, you know, volume, intensity, grade, but if I train my each body part frequently, and I split up the volume, it doesn't matter. If I train my body three or four times a week, even if the volume is the same, my body just responds way better, that way. And I did, I switched to a higher volume,

less frequency routine for a while, went back to the more frequency, boom, just better results every single time. It's wild. I think we're a little different there. I mean, not that I definitely think that frequency was like one of the biggest like game changers to abuse that word we always use for me.

For me, droppers, I know. So it was something I wasn't doing before, making sure I trained two, three times. But to me, there's a sweet spot. It's two times a week of muscle group. When I hit three, I tend to overreach. I tend to get joint issues. Isn't that interesting?

You have to like, there's a total variance between them. Yeah, no, there definitely is. And I can still get away with, sometimes do, you know, the just high and Like high intensity one day on a muscle group and that will that actually maintains me well so if I'm like not training a lot and maybe I'm only getting three days in the gym and I run some sort of an upper lower split But I train intensely that will that'll maintain my physique. Like so whatever, whatever foundation I have or built, you know, recently, it maintains well, progressing though, I have to scale volume. I've got it, I've got to build, I've got to over time progressively overload and add

volume to the routine and intensity. Yeah, because I did two, two times a week for a little while and it was okay. I was doing more volume. You guys would see how long my workouts works. I was trying to you know whatever But I scaled the volume down per workouts. This total volume is the same now. I'm doing the whole body three times a week way better Every single time this is such a good conversation though for our audience because this is the stuff that That bothers me when we when you know You get the academics in the space that want to debate over a recent study that's supporting their case. This is the best way for this. It's like, you know, there's such an individual variance.

And we all obviously, what you're going to be most consistent with is the most important. So whatever works for your time, whatever you like to do, whatever you're going to do more consistently is going to be better than anything. So if you hate training full body workouts, even if I could tell you that they're probably superior for you, it doesn't matter if you don't enjoy doing them. So that's first and foremost. And then there's such a variance between three times maybe like the perfect dose for you, but maybe two times as me. Yeah.

So what I did was, instead of doing three full body workouts, is I go upper lower, upper lower, upper lower. So six days a week I'm working full body workouts, is I go upper lower, upper lower, upper lower. So six days a week, I'm working out, but I'm altering upper lower and everything's getting hit three times in the week. And it seems, and the frequency is three times a week, and again, it's just, I respond incredible to that. I've had to, like, my, you know, I showed my abs on the story the other day. First time in a long time, I've done a... Oh, yes, that. We saved that. Don, yes, that. We saved that.

Don't lie, Justin. I missed it. I know what I do. Okay, I saved it for you. All right, yeah. I'm so excited. Actually, I think I have slid in your DMs. Oh, girl, it should be.

It should be. Yeah, he does. He's just a picture of you in your ass. Just a Justin. Yeah. I got to look at this fucking book cover. The whole time I changed this. Hey, no, I do. You should send it to Justin, but put Courtney in the group text. like book cover the whole time to change this. No way.

You should send it to Justin, but put Courtney in the group text. Just put her face in your abs. Yeah. Hey guys, how you guys think I look right now? I know. I did, I did, I did the story and said they know now. They know.

Everybody's aware. Yeah, they know now. Yeah, no, I'm actually pretty dialed in right now. I feel, I'm feeling good. So I have a game. So you made me bring up the marijuana thing since we're here now, bring this up a little bit. Since it does, when I say it on the podcast,

I always commit better, right? I plan to bring my A game for 40. So this is my big 40th birthday. Hell yeah. So now, do you have a percentage you want to get to? I want to be for sure single digits, but it's more a look and feel, right? So I, and I'm not far from that, right? I really feel like I'm about a month of like some really good. So you're what? 2% probably 3% away from where you want to be. Yeah, that's

a good, yeah, it's a good, I would say that right around, I'd say I'm sitting right around 10% right now if I had to guess my, I would so yeah based off of that picture. Yeah, if I had to guess my percentage I'd say about 10% And I'd like to be about eight I think eight percent would be eight seven percent we need to get tested because I already I've already I reached out to them. We're gonna do something. Okay. Yeah, so I got I want to get down to Five or six just for fun. Yeah, I feel I don't know what I'm at now. I would guess them in the singles I have no idea it's hard for me to I don't know what I'm at now. I would guess them in the singles. I have no idea.

It's hard for me to guess, but I think I'm probably around. Well, if that, so if you go a long ways to go, if you go that crazy and my goal is to kind of get there sooner than later, because what I might do is for my 40th, it would be cool to do like a photo shoot with my son. So being 40 years old, having a kid and then being all fit and shredded, like you're just, I don't know, it's a stupid goal.

Maybe we could all do a calendar, huh? Stupid. We can just do it. No way while I do a calendar with Justin, he'll overshadow everybody. But you know, every time, talking about this, the reason why, the real reason why I was going here, it was not to talk about my abs,

but was to actually share, and again, always trying to share this stuff for the audience that, you know, it's so important that you are constantly, and this is why I like tools. I know we have a split audience that like, like leans towards the sal strategy of doing things all the time, right? Like of, you know, intuitive everything.

But you're gonna make fun of my people. You're intuitively. Yeah, because you're not an app guy, you don't use the Fat Secret app, you don't use Fitbit tools But I love these things and I love these things for this reason like I don't know if you guys notice Maybe if you look back to a couple videos you'll notice that I had my Fitbit on last week And I just do it now. I just do it like that just for I just need to kind of see and it's just a calibrate

Where am I at because what I was noticing you know a month or so ago when I was pretty dialed in I'm like God I'm I'm eating in, I'm like, God, I'm I'm eating well. I'm training good. I'm not moving like I should. I know my body well enough that I know how quick a change I can make when I'm really dialed in and I just wasn't progressing and so I wore the Fitbit. I was like, you know what? I must be I knew I was not moving a lot, but I must be really really sedentary right now and I am I mean I had some days where 3,000 steps. So, geez. I mean, that's just getting a lot better. Well, I know it's the same thing

and that's why I started to kind of incorporate a little bit of bike just because it's like, I just don't even walk like as much as I used to. And that's something I've been addressing even just getting home and grabbing the dogs and going with Courtney on like a couple mile walk. Yeah, so and Katrina and I are doing the same thing, and we so and it's been like an hour walk and even that is only getting me to like 7,000 steps. I know it's pathetic. So I mean we don't want to go what we're doing.

I know. I get up, I sit in a car, I drive, I come here, I sit and then go home and sit and drive and and it more so now because I have a longer drive and you know, I'm not I don't go home get, and I'm playing with Max a little bit, but I mean, he's little, so it's not like I'm playing like really physical or going very far. So I really had to adjust my calories. I mean, I was just way overeating. I was eating good, but I was not, I was not, like, or like Justin said,

increase my activity. So I haven't done anything like a salt bike wise, but I'm really making an effort to get out on the longer walks. I already walked the dog at least once or twice a day, plus Katrina and I were taking a walk, but now I'm extending that walk for like an hour. It used to be kind of like that 20, 30 minute thing

where her and I connect every night after dinner, I've been doing that forever. Well yeah, another part to that too is like, so we have the kids, we're starting to try our best to give them a little bit more independence. And they're at an age now where they can stay home by themselves, but we've still been really nervous about stuff like that.

And like, they have their iPads, or they have like another phone that we leave there. So if anything happens, it can call or whatever. But so we've been kind of stretching our walks a little bit each time. And you know, that's just one of these things. I'm just like, okay, this is how I'm gonna start, you know, pushing myself to, you know,

get more comfortable with them to have a little bit more independence and then they can walk and do their thing and then come back to the house. And so I'm just like training myself in that regard. Do you find, I mean, I find this being one of the best, and it's fun, we're talking about this for fitness and being in shape, but the walk with the wife thing has been one of the best hacks for our relationship. It's totally perfect for that. It's so, you know, and it's, it's, it seems so stupid and little, but, uh,

encourages conversation. And we, and we, and we also, like, no phones. Like, that's like our rule, right? It's like, it's like, you can't have your phone on you. Like, it's just, we, it's just our time to, and sometimes we're quiet too, which is okay. Like sometimes it's like a 10 of the minutes. It's just silent and we're looking around and looking at the sun falling or something like that. Whatever. And then other times it's we're in deep conversation lots of stuff to talk about or talking about. Max, it's just, it really, it really allows us that space and that time to connect. And I, and it's, it's, I know I sound like an old man talking about Max, it really allows us that space and that time to connect.

And I know I sound like an old man talking about this because it's not something that I would probably talk about. It's wisdom though. It's old man. Well, it really does feel like that. It does feel like it's, I've hacked into something that has really fed into the strength of our relationship

because we've made my ideas. I think the key is to create the space. That's all. So it's not like you have to sit there and have crazy conversations, but you have the space and it's a regular thing. Otherwise, especially when you have kids, you'll find that you just don't have,

you just slowly drift away. You know, and it's, you gotta make sure that you're intentional about like creating those spaces and opportunities for it to come up. Cause it is, and we just always get in our rhythms in our own worlds, and I'm trying to take care of this and always be ahead, so I don't get behind, with what the kids need, or what my partner needs.

I feel like I'm doing great, but then again, I'm not talking to her along the way. No, it's true. And a partnership very much so is that, right? There's many times where she handles that, I handle this, and that can be a good, healthy partnership. There's nothing wrong with you both kind of dividing and conquering.

I think a good relationship has the ability to do this, but it's also important that you come back and you meet. And I just love that it's something that we're doing for our health, too. So it's like, it's too side-ed here. So not on why we do. Two birds once go. Yeah, that's right.

So we get to... That's the pita way of saying saying it we walk and we get our movement and we're steps in and our activity right and helps our Digestion after dinner, but then in even more to two girls one cup Yeah, that's Don't look at up. Don't never any does that in look at blue waffle Speaking of wives have you guys as wives been using using the face serum, the caldera? No, I haven't caught on yet. No, I haven't asked Katrina if she has her own little routine. Because she asked why they didn't have one for, she was really almost jealous.

Well, no, women can use it. Of course. No, I actually saw an ad they did recently and it was a woman doing the ad. Because it doesn't have a masculine smell to it. No. It's a very neutral, Doug brought that up the last time we had a calderic commercial. That is one of the things I agree with him. That's one of the things that I really like about it.

Although Katrina really likes the smell of the moisturizer more than she likes the oil. So the oil she said smells a little like earthy hippie to her. And so when I put that on my face, she likes the moisturizer. So I do here, when I'm here with you guys, the before the show, I use the oil,

cause I like the oil. But then when I go home and I shower and stuff like that, that's I use the oil. I really get on my beard. I don't know, it makes it feel like it's soft. It makes it shiner and it shapes it. So no, I'm digging the product, I'm digging them a lot, dude.

I like it. I would have never thought. I know when we first started working with them. I like really? We're gonna put it in. Well, you guys really resisted it. I liked it. Yeah, I was like, what's the next step?

Makeup, you know what we're doing here? I was like, I was gonna try and check you guys. And then all of a sudden Adam started looking all amazing. We're like, damn it. Yeah, I'm like, I guess there's some. Well, you know, you remember originally, what really sold me was I started using it on my psoriasis.

Yes. So like the kicker was, they came after us, they sent us a bunch of free stuff like a lot of people do. None of you guys even gave two shits about it. I started using it and I was like, oh wow, this like is really, it works really well on my psoriasis. It keeps it, not only does it help the dry skin there, but then it also keeps me from itching it, which is always a problem.

Reducing the inflammation. Yeah, so that's what really originally sold it to me. And then I got better and more consistent with with on my face and then of course I get Mm-hmm. Hey, I got some movie trivia for you Justin. Yeah, bring it. You know the movie gremlins great classic By the way scarier than you I remember if you ever show little kids No, it's scarier. No, it's scare me as a kid bro No way. Oh, oh, yeah I remember I tried to show my kids years ago and I I like like this is wait There's a part where the guy comes out the one of the Grimmlands gets like all like evil

Yeah, or they microwave the the Grimmlands Yeah, and then they come through like the toilet like oh, dude. It's great. Anyway Here's some remember that here's something interesting. They initially were gonna use monkeys To be the Grimmlands. Yeah, but on the first day of shooting the monkeys went crazy and were tearing shit apart and shit and everywhere So they went with the puppets or whatever, for grandma. You guys know that? They were initially gonna use monkeys.

Like real monkeys and then what a pivot, that is. Like going from like real live monkeys and also we're gonna create just free-truly. Yeah, so it was just like bad behaving monkeys. No, no, no, no. I think they were probably gonna put stuff on the monkeys. Oh, like costumes on the monkeys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a terrible idea put stuff on the monkey, make costumes on the monkeys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a terrible idea. Yeah, I mean, come on. Yeah. Like me. Yeah. Yeah, monkeys do what you want them to do. Yeah, that's a good look. You're never gonna happen.

Yeah. Do you guys remember that story years ago about that woman who had a pet chimpanzee? Oh, that went into the face off. She fed the chimpe like wine and zanax or something like that. And then it lost its mind. She'd like sleep with it, too Like right next to yeah, I was like her friend right? Yeah, and it literally ripped her face off Yeah, it literally grabbed her face and ripped and tore it off her skull what they're

Fish and they're strong, bro like they're so She was giving her a monkey Xanax. She gave the monkey some wine and some Xanax. She said it was stressed out or something. And it lost its mind and fucked her up. I wonder why. And it tore off her face. Me, how dumb do you have to be to give a monkey, a pharmaceutical like Xanax? I mean, if you've ever had a Xanax,

it's not like it's like a, well, I mean, like a, like a talent. To her defense though, the last thing I would predict, you know, it'd be crazy because you took a downwind. You think it'd be like past. Yeah, I was gonna be super chill, you know, no it ripped her face off Also, they are strong. Yeah, I've seen this from the animals when you get them You know a sedative some animals like freak out because something's happened to them And they and it's yes, so that's why I you're dumb still in my opinion because you know that there's a lot of people They use drugs like that as as like an upper

Because that you trying to fight it right so it trying to keep you down you fighting it has a reverse effect on people actually on some people There is there is that effect where they'll actually get worse. Yes, yeah, so that I mean But apparently it tore her face off shit You should know that I think someone tried to help her and it ripped that person's arm off Just strong you have to be to rip an arm off. When was this? This was like 10 years ago, 15 years ago? Chimp strength, man.

No, it's, can you, can you, there was like a hundred pound champ. It's unreal. Is it dumb? Can you have, can you actually have a champ and Z as a pet? Apparently. Well, yeah, I wonder what the regulations are like.

Well, yeah, because you know there's like, I know like certain state, only certain states here in the US, you can have like certain, yeah, like Jackson, like Bobo or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you know, Doug, certain states, only certain states here in the US, you can have like certain, wow. Yeah, like a Jacksonet, like Bobo or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you know, Doug, do you know this? I feel like you would know this about monkeys.

I didn't hear the question. I'm looking for the chance. We just call him the chance. Can you own a monkey he's asking? Oh, I think you can in some places. What that's what I mean is, there's, like, in California. Well, I mean, if you can, I feel like- I'm a Gers.

Yeah, but I feel like you can- You can't own ferrets in California or something like that. Really? Yeah, I bet if you could have one in and count don't you think we live in the Bayer? Isn't that cuz of Richard? There's a bunch of rich people don't you think there would be monkeys people hanging around with monkeys if we It's Hollywood in general. I don't know, but all I know is is that you can use these poor things. Oh, thanks Doug That's her thanks Doug for showing us that I did not need to show us that is that dude That is not a little chimp that is a fucking gorilla. Oh, there's a chimp. It's a champ. How much is a chimp way? 200 pound oh, so it's a 200 pound chip never mind, but this is like in

I was I was picturing like a little tiny little spider monkey. Yes, not okay. Oh, thanks Don't hey, why would you do that? Welcome? What are you? You're talking about you guys are talking about What are you Hey, why would you do that? You're welcome. What are you, he's talking about. He's like, talking about it. He's like, what are you guys are talking about? What are you doing sleeping with the thing like that? I don't know. I don't know. Somebody's got little issues.

Yeah, dude. Yeah, a little. I think there's more to the story. The animal love. Do you know how strong we're on this? We have to be to rip some of the face off. I think she was trying to get him fucked up. Yeah.

She's trying to take advantage of him. She's trying to bang the monkey. Yeah, I think. Think about that for a second. Okay, now that sounds like a more plausible story. Let me see she's feeling a little frisky. She had a whole bottle of wine. Yeah, she starts pouring him some wine.

She's a musy. He's a mess. He got no yonnies. He's a banana. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna try to relax him a little bit. And then he said no way. Just, I'm not having a shit.

Ah, I ain't having this shit. Come here a little more. Yeah, come here a little monkey. I mean, I'm into chimps. On Ah, I ain't having this shit. Come here, Lil' Mom. Come here, Lil' Mom. I mean, I'm into chimps. On your question about monkeys in California, monkeys and other primates can only be possessed by qualified people issued to permit for a specific legal purpose.

New it, just from movies and things like that. Come here, Lil' Mom. Let me, let me, let me, I have a little bit of update to what we talked about. Last time about Amazon in their acquisition of MGM. Yeah, it wasn't, like I didn't find anything else about like the casino or anything, but I know they're like directly targeting

the 007 franchise. So that was part of them getting, you know, that was part of it, like survivor, was another one in Shark Tank and some other TV show, but like that was all because that's such a staple franchise. Like the 007 franchise can go on into infinity. Okay, so what do you guys think about this strategy? It's a very popular strategy right now.

Marvel, the Star Wars, the, I feel like it's a cheap hack. Yeah, of course, because... Because it's guaranteed. I mean, it's already been established in the fabric of, you know, society, like everybody knows those franchises. And so it's like, that's always gonna be a hit. You know, as long as you do it right. Who's your favorite 007?

Sean Connery. By far. He's the best, per cent. Yeah, but he's the original though, right? No. Oh, he's not the original. No, the first is the best. The first, I don't know who the first.

George Lason B, maybe. Was it really? I don't even know who that is. Who's that guy original. No, no, no. The first is the best. The first, I don't know who the first George Lason B maybe. Was it really? I don't even know who that guy is. I like the newer guy though. I'm not like a, I'm not like a, I'm not like a big like bond person, but I like the new guy. I like the old bond.

So was even with Pierce Branson or whatever. Well, Pierce Branson. He was okay. He was okay. I mean, I didn't believe he could, he could beat anybody out. Exactly. Sean Connery, he's like,

he's like, Sean Connery look like, what'd you say, dude. Sean Connery looks like he could someone else. What'd you say, Doug? Yeah, Barry Nelson. I have no idea who he is. He's the original. Actually played eight years before Sean Connery. Hmm.

Yeah, I like the old Sean Connery 007. Those were the best, weird characters that would fight him, they'd do throw this hat that cuts it in half and dude with the metal teeth. Did you both get into this series like big time? Only the old ones when I was a kid. I watched all of them.

Yeah, I was like, I think it's because my dad loved it too. So I would like that was something we'd watch together all the time. He was really into like a lot of Tom Clancy novels and things that were all about like Patriot games and you know all these sort of like spy type of you know stories. So I like the tech from the old ones because the stuff that we have now, you know what I mean? It's like talking to your watch you know, stories. I like the tech from the old ones, because the stuff that we have now, you know what I mean? It's like talking to your watch. Oh my God, that's pretty easy.

Oh, it's so cheesy. That we have now. Yeah, there's submarines and yeah. I like it. But I also think this is kind of a weak-ass cheap hack that all these, you know, production companies use. It's just, cause then it's just overplayed. It just gets overplayed to me doing the same costs so much money to come up with something

completely original. And it's risky. It's very risky. You're going to spend $100 million and you don't know. I mean, I guess, okay, so I can get down with that as like a smart strategy. It's like you do that as like your your bankroll or your found like your foundation. Yeah, okay, so that okay, I can get behind that. That's a cool strategy. Okay, Amazon goes, hey, listen, if we buy, we get the James Bond rights, the James Bond, we know we can make 50 of those, that'll produce X amount of dollars. This now gives us this money to go play and try and get better at all.

Well, they just spent like 425 million on their Lord of the Rings series, which they're given a launch, which I'm really excited about that. I can't wait. So we'll see what that does for them, but I really think they're gonna jump, you know, once all this stuff kind of rolls out. Yeah, before we get done here, before the questions, the shout out to the active

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Enter the code MindPump for 15% off your first order. All right, enjoy the rest of the podcast. First question is fit with weights mama. How long does it take for a metabolism to recover after years of a 1200 calorie diet I reverse dieted and am now at 2,100 calories and have been lifting for five months I am seeing great strength progress but I am wondering when it's okay to start cutting calories for a more aesthetic look and how do I know my Metallism won't get jacked up again. All right, so When someone says metabolism recover, we got to be very clear what they mean is faster

Right, I get a faster metabolism because the truth is the metabolism is doing what it's supposed to do It was never broken. Yeah, I wasn't broken. You were just eating a low calorie and you were probably exercising Programming it wrong and so it just slowed down. So the question is, okay, how long does it take before my metabolism is really fast? Well, so far you've done pretty damn good job. You've gone almost up a thousand calories. You're at 2100 calories. What I don't know is did your body fat go up within that period of time? Were you able to maintain your body fat percentage? Increase your calories and just get stronger in which case I'd say you're doing pretty darn good I if you if you've been able like I mean even if you put on somebody fat if you were to put on mostly muscle

It's you're doing phenomenal because you're not just adding a thought your dumb you're damn near doubling. Yeah So the increase is almost but I mean, that's huge. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, that's a great place to be. Yeah, the place to cut is when you're at a place where you feel comfortable cutting and maintaining. In other words, let's say you're at 2100 calories and you bring it down to 1600 calories and that gets you lean.

Are you now comfortable staying around 1600 calories? Now, that doesn't mean you have to stay at 1600, you can always reverse tie it from there, but that's the idea, right? The idea is, do I have room to go down in order to get leaner? For most women, I would say I like to keep them around, you know, I like to get them to around the low 2000s, at least 22, 23 hundred, 24 hundred, be real nice to get up to 2,500 before starting to cut. Five months is pretty good.

That's a pretty fast progression. I mean, I had some female clients that, it took us a year to get to the point. Yeah, to get to the point where things sped up a little bit because the body is just, obviously you were stressing it so much before, it adapted in a particular way. And a five month reversal of that is not bad at all.

It's actually pretty damn good. There are some numbers that we're missing here too, though, like we don't know her size, right? So, I mean, if she, 2100 is pretty good for the average fee. She's like 130 pounds. Yeah, right. But if she's 280 pounds, you're still really low. You know, so it really does depend on kind of where you are.

But if you're average size, I think that's a pretty good place. Now here's the thing too, if this is my client and she was coming to me and telling me that, hey, I'm looking to, I wanna lean out at him, we've been doing this, calorie increase for the last five months and I feel good, I'm getting stronger, I'm eating more, I'm not putting on a bunch of body fat,

but I would like to, summers around the corner, let's lean down a little bit. I would do like a three on one off type of like three weeks of cut, one week of bulk to maintenance, three week, and that's what we would start to do for a while. And doing that is gonna keep you in a really good place, right? You're not gonna be in this 1200 calorie deficit for an extended period of time.

If you're having a nice calorie surplus every third week, you should be in a pretty good place. And I'm also would not allow you to go down to 1200 calories It probably runs something something around 15 1600 calories For those three weeks and then I would run like a you know 21-hundred calorie Week in a surplus or maintenance right and be going back and forth with that I think with with doing that you should see some see yourself lean out pretty nice I agree

I think the trouble happens from you should see yourself lean out pretty nice. I agree. I think the trouble happens from being consistently trying to hit a deficit. That's right. Always, always, always hitting a deficit. And then, combining that with a lot of manual calorie burning, lots and lots of cardio, that tends to be the issue. But strength training with the reverse diet and then strength training with the cut and the cut being interrupted with, like Adam said, you know, a week or four days

where you're at maintenance or higher, it's probably a good strategy to get yourself lean without getting too much of that slow down in the metabolism. Next question is from Catherine Health Journey. I took three years off after dieting on low calories for years to reverse and get my calories up to a better level. Now I'm trying to cut a bit, and my weight is not budging.

What do you suggest? Well, if it's not budging, first of all, are we talking about weight on the scale or body fat percentage? Because oftentimes the weight on the scale isn't moving, but you're getting this nice body composition change. And I would see this with clients often where like, oh my gosh, the scale hasn't moved

or it's only moved a little bit, then I would test the body fat and be like, well, you actually gained a couple pounds of muscle and lost a couple pounds of body fat, so this is a good position to be in. So that's number one. Number two, if it is body fat percentage that's not going down, then you're not actually to cut. You're still eating too many calories. You have to reduce your calories even more. then you're not actually at a cut. You're still eating too many calories.

You have to reduce your calories even more. You know, it's interesting. There's this, this like play, there's like this buffer zone with your metabolism where, you know, so much lean body mass burns so many calories, but there's like, it could burn this low calories or this high calories, depending on whether or not the body

wants to become more or less efficient. Just cutting calories tends to make your metabolism want to become more efficient. Just bumping calories tends to make your calories want to be less efficient. So you actually burn more calories. So that's something to consider too. Sometimes you think you're cutting your metabolism adapt immediately and the realities you just need to drop down a little bit. Yeah. And are you reading this as three years of just dieting

or did three years off of everything? It says off after dieting. So I'm wondering if that means no exercise, too. That's true, it's a point. You know, so if you stopped eating low cow and exercising and dieting and then you took three years off completely of everything, does that mean that you took three years off of dieting and you took three years also off

of exercise? Because if that's the case, the main thing that I would do with you, we talked about this in a recent, I think, qual, where I talked about this, my goal for you is to not gain or lose. It would be to kind of maintain your weight, but introduce strength training and slowly increase calories. Like that is a huge one. If we can get 30, 60 days down the road, and you've been consistently strength training and slowly increase calories. That is a huge one. If we can get 30, 60 days down the road

and you've been consistently strength training following a map Santa Ball type of a protocol, following that routine, being consistent, making good food choices, balanced macros, and in a surplus, and your weight not go up or down, that's a beautiful place. That's a vital component to the whole process is to be able to train your way through that. So not.

Yeah, I would assume that they were probably doing that, but if that's not part of the formula, you know, you're going to have a hard time. We need to recomp your body with lean muscle mass. So that's all part of like building up your metabolism again to then start kind of shitting that out. I also would look into activity level. The guys and I were just talking off air about this. I was sharing with them.

I had a similar like this conversation with myself. Man, I'm eating really good and I'm training right now and man, my body, I normally would be leaning out right now. You just overestimated your calorie, bro. I'm just overestimating how many calories I'm burning. Just because I'm exercising and just because I'm eating good, doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to lean out. Overconsuming calories, I'm not moving very much.

I put on, so I actually put on my Fitbit for a couple weeks just to kind of get an idea, recalibrate where I was at and what I found was I'm extremely sedentary right now. My only bit of activity is my training. The rest of it and maybe a little play is my training. The rest of it and maybe a little play with my son. The rest of it is really sitting down on this chair or sitting down in my car or in front of the computer. So I had to reduce my calories and or be aware of the days where maybe I go create more activity. So you know, you got to either one create more activity

by going out and moving more, getting more steps, walking, or low intensity cardio, or reduce your calories. Next question is from Lassie Goutou. What are your personal opinions on diet breaks? I like them, but I don't like calling them diet breaks. That's the one thing. So what's real important with your nutrition, very important, a lot of people don't place any value on this,

but this is actually one of the most important things is your mentality and attitude about what you're doing. If you're considering what you're doing with your nutrition, a diet, then you're already moving in the wrong direction because a diet means that you're at some point gonna go off the diet. This is a temporary way of living

or a temporary type of solution, in which case a break then is, well now I'm not within these rigid rules, and a break means I can do whatever I want. And so this attitude tends to lend itself well to the on the wagon off the wagon mentality where they're eating very strict and then they go off. It opens a big.

It opens a big gate. Yes, and this is some of my, yeah, I've paid attention to. You still have to be very mindful of what you're consuming. This may just mean in terms of using it in a healthy way, is like you have a rigid structure that you're trying to, you know, have a very specific goal you're trying to achieve and, you know, a certain amount of weight you want to lose, you know, a certain amount of body fat. But then, you know, certain amount of weight you want to lose, you know, certain amount of body fat.

But then, you know, to be able to kind of pull back for a bit, still making mindful decisions about what you're putting in your body, but maybe a little less rigid in terms of like, I'm following my calories, I'm, you know, I'm writing everything down every single day. You know, that's how I see it. Yeah, the way I look at it is like, things come up in your life.

Once a week, you may visit family or you may go out to dinner with your wife or you go out with your friends for lunch. If you're doing pretty damn good with your nutrition, those occasional things that pop up, well, there you go. Now, when I go out to dinner with my friends on Saturday night, I don't even think about it as a break. I just think I'm gonna go out and enjoy myself with my friends.

It actually prevents me from going crazy with the diet because if it was a break, then it tends to become all about the food and I overeat, but rather, I'm going out with my friends and I'm just gonna enjoy myself. And today's dinner or lunch is about connecting with my friends and enjoying what we're doing. That's the way that I like to have flexibility with my nutrition, not the scheduled

Saturdays my diet break, and then it turns into 15 pancakes for breakfast and all kinds of crazy food. When I first started my Instagram and was tracking my journey, and I was a lot of the things I was commenting on this stuff that I was seeing really popular in the space, and the things that I didn't like, this reminds me of the cheat days, right? The same thing. It's such a popular thing in our space and the things that I didn't like. This reminds me of that. It reminds me of the cheat days, right?

It's such a popular thing in our space to talk about like, oh, you know, what do you guys think about cheat days? It's the same idea, diet breaks, cheat days. The idea of you guys figuring out what you should be eating, it should be a lifestyle change. The goal is to figure out, and that's why, I hate even talking about diets.

It's all made up. All diets, it's all made up. All these, it's all made up to sell books to you, sell books to you and to market to you. Really the goal should be, and does that mean that you can't use diets to help figure out what works well for you? Like, you know, so if somebody's like attached to how the ketogenic diet made them felt,

like I'm not anti-ketogenic, if you followed the concepts around that and you felt way better and you got in good shape and you like eating that way, then attach yourself to that. What is the diet consistent, not the diet itself, and that becomes your lifestyle a way of eating. And the same thing goes for this person.

It's like, don't be looking at it like you're either off the diet or you're on the diet or these break or these cheat days It's like the journey or the goal should always be I'm trying to find a way to eat where I have some flexibility I enjoy what I eat on a regular basis. I don't have to be weighing and measuring and restricting all the time That's the goal of all this because if Because if you want it to be long term, if you want to get to this desirable body or whatever it is that we're heading towards and you want to maintain that for the rest of your life,

you've got to find something that's sustainable forever. That doesn't require breaks. That doesn't require you to, oh my God, I need a day off. Or oh my God, I need a cheat day on Saturday because this has been terrible for the last five days. And then what will inevitably happen is the point that Sal brought up is, you know, there's gonna be a birthday.

There's gonna be at least enjoy yourself and be normal. And then, but also be mindful. You know, did you just do a birthday and then you had a Friday night with your wife and then the night before that, you celebrated someone's graduation and the night before that was like boys, you know, say, they're a trend here. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, you also gotta be self-aware enough to to know like, you know, you're on a break or you're not following anything, you're really eating whatever the fuck you want. Like, the goal is to eat in this balanced way that feeds your body what it needs and keeps you in shape, it eats you healthy. And occasionally when you have things socially that are important to you, right? So I went just last week, my nephew graduating and it was his birthday. We went to top golf for the day

and my family was drinking. And I had a chicken Caesar salad. It wasn't, and I didn't drink. I had a diet coke. It just, that was not the night for me. It was a Wednesday night. I wasn't gonna party. I'm saying, I gotta drive all the way home so I had a long drive.

It was ladies night. Yeah. I had a long drive ahead of me after that. This is not, and by the way, everybody else was drinking and having fried food and doing all that. But I was like, eh, to me, I wasn't missing much. Chicken salad was fine for me at that. I had a diet coke, I enjoyed playing and then I went home.

Like, you know, you make choices like that. Then, you know, I'm gonna have something coming up. I had a diet coke, I enjoyed playing, and then I went home, like, you know, you make choices like that. Then, you know, I'm gonna have something coming up. I've got my in two more weeks. I've got my cousin who I'm very close to. I'm as wetting. And we're gonna have a nice dinner and I'm probably gonna have some cake

and I'll probably have some champagne with them. And I'm gonna enjoy that because he doesn't get married that often, right? So, you know, be mindful of the choices that you make as far as around the lifestyle you're creating for yourself and allow those quote unquote breaks that organically happen when they make the most sense. But beware if you're abusing that too. That's what balance looks like. Right. Next question is from Fulvio the castle. What are the pros and cons of the suicide grip for bench pressing? I think the name alone will tell you the cons.

So suicide grip? Is there any real pro? Even though I benched this way a lot. Yeah, yeah, there it is. So it's a thumbless grip, right? So you're holding the bar like this rather than your thumb around the bar. And a lot of, you'll see a lot of power lifters and strength athletes and some party builders press this way.

And then you'll see other people say you should have your thumb around the bar. So what are the pros, right? Well, the pros are when you, are the hand placement when you're thumbless, and it actually shortens the lever just a little bit, right? So when I grab with my thumb around, I'm probably adding a quarter inch or less, but a little bit of lever length, right,

to my forearm, and what does that mean? A little bit more stability is involved in the press. When I shorten the lever, I'm probably able to lift more weight as a result. What are the cons? Well, you don't have your thumb around the bar. And never happened to me. I've pressed like this before.

And now I press every time with my thumb around. But I've seen people drop the bar. There's those scary videos where people, yeah, where they actually drop the bar. There's those scary videos where people, yeah, where they actually drop the bar and really hurt themselves. So there's a high danger factor. I said in comparison, I guess, with that. But there are ways to put your thumb around

and also kind of place it similar on your palm. That's how I grip. When I grip my thumbs around, but I still place it kind of low on the palm when I do my presses and it feels, you know, I just look at it like most things like it like even pull ups or pulling where there's people I do without their thumb and honestly like in terms of having a really solid grip and trying to make sure that that's something that I'm always trying to strengthen. I'm trying to strengthen this nice tight fist. So that also affects my wrists

and reiterates a good position there for the force distribution. So I just think it creates bad patterns. I think it's one of those novelty things that somebody makes an excuse for shitty form. And that's just where I'm at. I mean, I think another con is that it's weak wrist, right? I mean, if you're resting right there on the bone and you're not having to actually stabilize

and activate with your wrist, you could have weak wrist for that. And even weak forearms, the forearms are where helping stabilize the wrist. So that would be another con. And I guess pro for me, when I would use it, is it just felt more comfortable to me. And it's probably because it was a little bit easier.

I never put that much thought into it. So I kind of bounce back and forth. You'll see me do. Most of the time I grip around the bar, I guess maybe sometimes when I, I think naturally I probably default when I go to like a max lift or I'm lifting towards that. I probably break the wrist and go down in that position

probably because it's easier for me. Well, let me ask you guys, is did you ever allow clients to press without the thumb? No, exactly. Exactly, it's just not good technique, it's not. You would never teach it that way. No, you wouldn't. And by the way, for people listening,

they're like, what difference does it make with your wrist? I mean, look, there's a reason why power lifters wear wrist braces when they bench press. I remember this as a kid. I remember when bench press was like the lift of all lifts, right, I would do wrist wraps around the bar, tighten it up so that it was really tight when they bench press. I remember this as a kid. I remember when bench press was like the lift of all lifts, right? I would do wrist wraps around the bar, tighten it up so that it was really tight around my wrist,

and I could lift more because it felt more stable around my wrist. So yeah, you might be able to lift more or feel like you can lift more. I don't know how much of a difference it makes because the lever is shorter. Is it worth it? No, it's not going to contribute to more chest gains

or shoulder or tricep gains. And then there is that increased risk. I don't think it's a huge increase risk, especially if you're doing it properly, of you dropping the bar on your chest, that sucks. I've seen some terrible videos online. If you're already doing it, it's whatever, if you're not doing it, there's no reason for you to do it.

So if you're, there's no huge benefits though. That's what I'm saying. There's no real reason for you. If you're already benching with a complete grip, there's no reason for you to go to a false or a suicide grip. Right? So I would never teach, like you said, that's a great way to ask it.

Would I teach a client? I would never tell a client, hey, let go of the bar and let her just rest there. Yeah. And now we're going to do this exercise. Now I would tell them to grab on the bar and then we would teach them. Yeah, like you don't see people do a thumbless grip

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