Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1584: How to Build Impressive Shoulders, Signs It’s Time to Add More Volume & Frequency to Your Workout, Overcoming Sports Injuries & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: June 26, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. It doesn’t have to be a birthday or holiday to send someone some flowers! (4:11) Mind Pump Recommends, ‘This is Pop’ on Netflix. (5:05) Sal’s HUGE monumental change! (20:14) The controversy around John McAfee’s death. (22:04) The challenge of sacrificing in your sport in pursuit of getting bigger and stronger. (32:19) What’s really in your Subway tuna sandwich? (42:23) Is it good luck if a bird poops on you? (48:42) Mark Bell is a BIG fan of LMNT. (53:16) Adam’s concoction with Magic Spoon blueberry cereal. (55:54) #Quah question #1 – Would it make sense to add another training day if my recovery is good? (59:16) #Quah question #2 – What program would you recommend to build my shoulders? (1:04:41) #Quah question #3 – Where do I start if I have a muscle imbalance? (1:09:42) #Quah question #4 - Is it better to lay off heavier weights if I am focusing on mobility and technique? Or keep driving home technique while doing my heavy lifts? (1:16:44) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] June Promotion: MAPS Prime, Prime Pro, and the Prime Bundle 50% off!  **Promo code “JUNEPRIME” at checkout** Visit From You Flowers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! This Is Pop | Netflix Official Site The Mathematical Genius of Auto-Tune T-Pain: Usher’s comments about Auto-Tune made me depressed for 4 years T-Pain: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert John McAfee dead of apparent suicide in Spanish jail after court approves his extradition to U.S. on tax charges UFC Legend Jon Jones Packs On 40 Pounds In Anticipation Of Heavyweight Fight Is Subway selling real tuna or is it fake? Test finds no tuna DNA. Mark Bell's Power Project EP. 540 - Sal Di Stefano - Resistance Training Does More Than You Think Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Breakdown Recovery Trap, Why You Aren’t Progressing – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media MAPS Fitness Anabolic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System The Most Overlooked Muscle Building Principle – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Prime Webinar How To PROPERLY Do The Bird Dog Exercise – Mind Pump TV MAPS Prime Pro Webinar MAPS Fitness Prime Pro | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jon Jones (@jonnybones)  Instagram Stan “Rhino” Efferding – CSCS (@stanefferding)  Instagram Mark Bell (@marksmellybell)  Instagram

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By the way, if you ever wanna be on the show live and ask us some questions, send an email to live at mindpumpmedia.com, send them your question, and we may just pick you. But the way we open the episodes with an intro portion, so before we get to those live questions, for the first 52 minutes, we talk about current events, we bring up scientific studies,

we have fun conversation, we mention our sponsors. So we're being upset in two big studies. We have fun conversation We mentioned our sponsors. So let me give you a rundown of today's episode We opened up by talking about the flower company that were maybe going to start working with if you want to send Flowers to somebody because you want to be a nice person. Yeah head over to from uflowers.com forward slash flower forward slash mind pump. We have a hookup for you. Then we talked about a show on Netflix called This Is Pop and Adam tried to make us feel bad for making fun of auto-tune. Didn't work.

I still don't feel bad. Then I talked about how I changed my underwear, not just changed them but changed the style. I've been to wear it. I was sort of distinct. I decided for that. Then we talked about the controversy and conspiracy around McAfee.

Did he Epstein? I don't know, kind of crazy. Massive tinfoil hat. Then we talked about John Jones bulking up and getting big. Is it going to help or hurt his career? Then we talked about how Subway tuna sandwiches were tested and had no tuna DNA. What the hell is in there?

That's strange. Then Adam talked about the good luck bird shit that hit him on the shoulder. I talked about the interview I did with Mark Bell on the power project and how they drink element over there as well. And element T is an electrolyte powder that's actually sufficiently high in sodium.

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Just pay for shipping and you'll get some free stuff. And then Adam talked about slicing up bananas and putting it in his blueberry magic spoon. Serial. magic spoon cereal. Magic spoon cereal is sugar free, high in protein. There's a lot of way protein in there. The macros of magic spoon cereal are incredible for building muscle and helping you cut calories to burn body fat, but it also tastes like the cereals you grew up eating as a kid. No joke, the stuff is amazing.

Go check them out. Head over to magicspoon.com forward slash mind pump, use the code mind pump to get $5 off. Then we got to the live question. So the first person we talked to was Santiago from Ecuador. This person is measuring his recovery with some pretty high tech devices and said, look, I feel good, should I add another workout during the week. The next question was from Kate from California

This person used to do a lot of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and a little bit of weight training now is transitioning Primarity to weight training once to build her shoulders So she wants to build muscle especially in her shoulders wanted some advice the third question was Mike from Pennsylvania This person's a personal trainer has got some imbalances in their core. So one side seems stronger than the other. One had some advice on how to balance that out. And then the final question was Brianna from Florida. This person's been working out for a very, very long time. Has some issues with their bench press, their squat, some mobility issues, some pain, wants to know if they should go light and focus on mobility, or if they can do mobility plus heavy lifting, like what's the best way to approach this?

Also, all month long, maps prime, maps prime pro and the prime bundle are all 50% off. This is a sale that will end very soon. Go check them out or sign up at maps fitnessproducts.com. Just use the code June Prime with no space for that discount. Wait, did you send flowers to Brook too? Because I saw her post something about it. Her birthday, yeah.

Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, this is why I was really excited. I mean, I don't, we don't seem to be getting the same response from our audience as I was hoping for, but I mean, I like it because- But the thoughtless guys listen to the podcast. Yeah, but you get it.

Come on, guys, step it up. Send some flowers to somebody. Yeah, come on. It's somebody feel good today. And you guys love your wives. What's going on out there? Jesus, man. Doesn't have to be a birthday or holiday

to send your wives some flowers. Send some to your wife, send some to your girlfriend. Doesn't matter. Yeah, man, it's got so but anyways. Yeah, I've And they're super reasonable, man. I mean, you can you can go cheap or you can go over the top and there's candy and other little package stuff So yeah, anyways, I sent that over. It was a birthday. You know, I was in a send you win points. I know you like them. I do Yeah, I should send out of some flowers. Get a flower guy. Yeah, I'm putting a nice note on there. So far. You're my flower. I have something for you guys.

So what happened? How often do you guys watch something or you read something and you feel like really bad? Like something maybe you've been saying for a long time and you don't know the whole backstory, too? Or there's just one time I was walking on the sidewalk and there was a guy like standing and he was looking right at me and he didn't move out of my way.

And so I just bumped him because I'm like, me and he didn't move out of my way. And so I just bumped him because I'm like, whatever. And then he turned out to be blind. I felt terrible. That's true story. Oh, yeah. That's true story. That's true story, dude.

I was walking, he was looking right at me and I'm like, what an asshole. Who the hell am I way? You shoulder him? Yeah, I shoulder him. He's like, kind of stumbled. He's shoulder to blind. Hey, he stumbled.

And I go, what are you blind? He goes, yes, I am. He's like, yes, I am blind. he stumbled. Bro, hey, and I go, what are you blind? He goes, yes, I am. He's like, yes, I am blind. And I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. You are, I think hurts me a little bit. Can you get out of hell for that one? I don't know. I don't know.

How many hellmarries do you have to do? You're like, you're past purgatory. You're gonna have. You're gonna have. Really bad. Wow. Okay, that's like, nothing compared to how I felt. This was, I felt a little bad, but not like that bad. Alright. Yeah. You want to know what I felt bad about.

So I was watching, I think it's called 90s pop or this is pop. I thought you saw it on Netflix. Hell good. So good. I watched the one on Boyz the Man, which was excellent. Yes. BBD. Oh, yeah. They were, they were family. They were pretty amazing. Kind of sad story though. What kind of happened to them when it exploded within sync in 98 degrees Everybody else because they really were the ones that they're the first ones. They created that yeah, and they were good ones They were superior singers. Yeah, they were way way better, but You know and black sheep was yeah. Oh, yeah, that was the other one But then you know and sync came out backstreet boys

98 degree yeah, which one had Justin Timberlake? In sync. How do you know? I mean, I watched the document. He's really into Britney Spears. Yeah, I remember I told you I didn't like Justin Timberlake because he was dating my girl. Remember when his hair looked like top ramen?

Remember that? It just looked like a bunch of top ramen. So I heard you, so popcorn kernels. One of the, I think 98 degrees guy forget his name. Snicklashay? Maybe, I think I degrees guy forget his name. Nick Lishay. Maybe I think I that was married to just what is happening right now. I don't know that much. You guys have so much pop reference.

I'm proud of you. Well mine's just gonna just watched it or whatever. But there was a name for the the blonde in the front. He said it. I never heard it before. Lance Bass. It's in something like blonde roots or no. No, no, no.

Corn. He made fun of himself. Yo, he was no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no right like heart oh make a statement right now it sucks and you're not a musician if you use auto tune okay terrible okay so there's there's where you should feel about okay I did that on purpose this is what yeah well I mean you guys have both of said this I'm a sociopath so I don't feel about yeah you can try so stamp this on me okay so first of all let's do the backstory on auto tune you guys know the backstory how it was created everything I mean synthesizers have been around for a long time no no auto tune the software just cracks the pitch So when you're singing like it kind of gets you in range not what it is cocksuckers. What how did it come to be? You guys know the back story on how it came to be Of course I'm a story I'm assuming you so invented it You know so much, but then you just throw it out bad story

It's not hate it when you learn something. You come in like an asshole. I know it. Out with it. With your ear. It's exclusive knowledge. That's a look into my shoes, guy. Oh, Zara. Oh, I don't know. And this is what it feels like to be your co-host all the time.

Look, you guy. Always talking in certainties. Let me tell you how I'm an expert because I memorized this article. All right, anyways, when it's still, the guy, the bajillionaire who came up with it. So he's a total like math nerd guy. I forget the name of his job title, but he's the one who goes in and finds oil

and they do it by blowing up dynamite. And then the sound waves, we'll tell them if it's, if there's areas of pockets of oil. Yeah, like refracts off of it and by the sound of the way the sound changes, they know if there's oil or not there. And absolutely brilliant because I didn't understand how that worked. And so he geeked out on the math of that and the ability to manipulate and change sound based off of that.

And so he basically reverse engineered that for singers. And it's been around for quite some time. I don't feel bad yet. Well, I'll get there. Let me set the table. I'm ready to meet him. I'm not a good story unless it's at the table. So he does all this, right?

So he creates this, this auto tune. And by the way, it's been used for quite some time now. But the way people originally used it is not the way that ever really probably bothered one you guys like share would use it for one little thing. time now. But the way people originally used it is not the way that ever really bothered one. You guys like share would use it for one little thing in a song or if you have you believe in love, that's the love. Right. So I could use some there right there. There's the singers that you know they will sing them. I don't know is it a melody is that the right single whole melody and then if there's one thing there's like a little pitch off

and then they would manipulate it with the attitudes. So it just be a tiny fraction of the song. The thing you do in the studio when they get post production. And 99.9% of the population, if no idea, or could never be able to tell where it's at, the person who you guys don't like is the person who made it popular to use it throughout the song and as like obviously,

not like he was just trying to fix it. Oh, in the front. Yeah, T-Pain. So T-Pain becomes famous for being this guy who uses the whole song in auto tune. And the research, by the way, for him to get to figure out what software was using it to do, you know that wasn't like a common knowledge. That was

so, because it was like cheating, the music industry didn't come out of that. They didn't want to reveal that. In fact, they lied about the whole share one. So they were, they were asked in like a, a very popular article or whatever like that or interview, did share use this, you know, software to manipulate that auto tune with that and they denied it to try and play it off like it was really her voice weird the music industry live So it's so anyways, he uses it now He becomes an incredibly famous for this because they're it still appeals to a bunch of people sure sounds good

Now he had an app for I remember even download it because it's just fun to use now He now he is like you guys would like, I like, okay, up into this point, I really don't know anything about T-Pain. So this is my knowledge in T-Pain is like this our documentary. Like I just assumed like you guys did. Some asshole who hacked the system,

figured out auto-tune, probably a terrible singer, and it's just, it's kind of not like that at all, actually. He was very fascinated by the technology and the uniqueness of being able to manipulate that and wanted to create something creative. And he wanted to separate himself from anybody else. And this was a way to do that. And so he started to do all of some of the edit and it took off.

Now here's the part that I felt really bad about was he went through actually depression for quite some time. He talks about when the rise of his career, hanging out with Usher, and Usher pretty much walked over to him and said, you ruin the music. And you ruin music because of your abuse of the auto tune. And he said it just totally crushed him

because his intentions weren't to cheat the system. In fact, you don't find out till way later, the guy actually has a fucking pretty killer voice. He did that tiny little desk thing on that one channel on YouTube. You guys ever seen that before? No. Oh, you've never seen tiny little desk?

You've seen it before? I don't remember. It's popular right now. It's a YouTube thing. I believe, I wanna say BBC does it. Are you familiar, Doug, with tiny little desk? Yeah, I think it's called tiny little desk. It's on YouTube. Tiny little desk himself. it's uh... they they sing a tiny little computer

they sing with no instruments it's just them doing uh... what you call a couple of yeah yeah so he any sings on there and it's incredible everybody is like blown away seeing lady god is something that it was just amazing almost every big singer is is gone on time and a desk So you feel bad because you got depressed? Yeah, and I feel bad because he is an artist just in a different way. It's because it's new to, and then the whole thing sets the table

for all different genres of music. And when it's new, people are so... Oh, wait. This happens, yeah. I mean, with synthesizers in general too, like there's like purists out there, musician wise, those shit on any kind of new technology or you know ways. Electric guitar was shit on.

Yeah, so I mean, that's just a common thing. So yeah, it's, it's, I'm just being old. You do something new, like you're getting a haters. Well, I'm just being an old guy. Yeah, then do you guys know there was a huge controversy when photography came out and people were saying that it was art.

People who painted had a big problem with this. It's like, that's not art. You guys are just taking pictures. So it's always been that way. And that's my point. He actually really changed the game when it came in. And everybody said it would be a fad. Oh, you're here.

And then no one's going to do it again. And like, here he is. Everybody uses it. It's just a matter of how much they use it. It's all about if you enjoy hearing the sound That's really what it all and that's why I think at some point his record sales obviously prove that and that's why I think at some point AI is gonna make music that that is gonna crush and you know I don't use pop music is a benchmark for anything

They can do whatever the fuck they want they can have it over there Yeah, like if you're a music purist and like it's what you should be able to do whatever like acapella or Like if you do have a good voice that's where I'd have been. Hold on. Aren't you like a huge Michael Jackson fan? Yeah I love him, dude. He's the king of pie. I know, but again, there's a few of the pop guys where I'm just like Dude dancing singing like he I mean, he had the full, like everything perfect. He was about perfection. There's nobody even touches Michael.

So, like, you name somebody that seemed close. Well, after watching that documentary, I am unbelievably impressed. He never touches him, but he touches us. Yeah, anyway, he's like, oh wow, sorry. Wow, man. Boise the man, man. I was doing, you know, after watching that and what they did

when they did it, talk about the foresight. Well, what was brilliant about them that I didn't even consider was at the time you had R&B acts, but the way that they dressed and presented themselves was a little bit urban. And so there wasn't a lot of crossover, right? They would top the urban charts, but wouldn't really do well on the pop charts

and stuff like that. Boys to man comes out, and do you remember how they used to dress? Yeah, suit and ties. Yeah, bow ties, and they presented themselves totally different, and that was on purpose to give them crossover appeal. And they broke, I didn't know this until I watched it.

They broke all those records. They broke Elvis's Pressley's number one, like how long Elvis Press Lee was number one four. They broke it with, I think it was End of the Road. Yeah, it was like a 14 week run that Elvis had and they broke it. And they broke it again. Get the road.

End of the road was in every dance. I hate it. It's overplayed. Every eighth grade graduation. Yeah, eighth grade, everything. Like everywhere you went, there was End of the Road. Dude, I, they were so talented though. Super. you went, there was end of the road. Dude, I... They were so talented though.

Super. So talented, brilliant to do that when they did it. Like nobody, nobody even thought to really do it like that. Now how crazy is their fall though? Because they were, they were literally at the top of the world. It's actually really sad because... And then all of a sudden, this is what they talk about in the show. They were at the top of the world crushing the charts,

then come in these other boy bands like we said, in sink, back, sweep, boys, whatever. Literally the year after, they were at a club, and they barely filled it with 50 people. This was in a year. Wow. This is why celebrity, this is why people, celebrities lose their mind,

because the rise and fall is so crazy, especially if you're a kid. It's funny as I was watching another one about what they called it, the Stockholm something. Yeah, they're a Swedish influence. Yeah, because I didn't realize that there's a tremendous amount of the pop music that's popular that's written comes out of Sweden. Their writers and producers come out of there and like Brittany Spears and a lot of these boy bands and it was Abba's Swedish album.

Oh, that's where Abba came in out there. They were like, so a cageer force. They were actually the original band that they based, all these producers based, all the rest off of was Abba. Can I just say something right now? Abba's amazing. You just wanna say that.

And a lot, yeah. Well, in a lot of them, they didn't even, like they didn't understand what they were singing, like in English, but they just sang it, like, perfectly, it became a huge hit here. Well, do you know what they hacked, right? So you normally write, or correct me, Justin, I'm wrong, you normally write music. Yeah, the lyrics, and then you play something to it, right?

They did the music, and the lyrics had to fit. Yeah, yeah, just so. So here's an example. That's right. Yeah, it depends. So here's an example. That's the hack. Yeah. So here's an example, right? So one of the most famous Britney Spears songs, right?

Hit me, baby, one more time. Yeah. With the lyrics said, we're hit me up again, baby, one more time. But they had to change it to hit me, baby, one more time, to fit the music. Right. And they had to change the title of the song because record stores and stuff were like, hit me, hit me, yeah, that was a abuse. So it literally changed to baby one more time.

But that's why it didn't make sense to lyric. And a lot of those and Abba's an example of why, some people like they don't like it because the lyrics don't always make sense, but the lyrics were made to fit in the... By the way, as I'm watching this with Jessica, boy, does your perception change as you get older right as I mean Britney Spears came out in what the late 90s early 2000s, so I'm like

18 19 years old and I'm watching this music videos and I'm like, oh, this is so cool. Now I'm a father Yeah, I have a you know, I have a teenage son a daughter who's about to turn into a teenager and I'm watching this music video of this high school girl dancing with this little skirt doing her thing. And I'm watching it and I'm like, disgusted. I can't believe. Oh, see, now that's funny. These little kids are dancing this way.

That's funny. You saw it that way because what I saw, when I remember, there was so much, do you remember the controversy that was around that? I do, but there was a teenager watching. That's twice about that. That's, she's like the whole sum. That's half of what blew her up was the controversy around that I do but there was a teenager watching that twice. Oh, she's like the whole Soon that's half what blew her up was the controversy around that. Oh my God this little you know 17 or however old She was that time girl dancing with a mini skirt on but when I looked at it

I go like I remember how bad supposedly that was back then I go oh my god the kids today Yeah, we're stay it actually isn't that it's I mean it's a short dress But it's not. Well, it's all sexiness. It's not short, like some of these dresses are short. How many times did you see a thong growing up? Like, never. Yeah.

It's everywhere. Yeah. What's going on? I'm just saying they're all in the place. No, I mean, I'm just, I'm not talking specifically about that. I'm, what I'm saying is my perception. No, I get that. No, you look at it from as a father's perspective.

Which I do see that too. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I want my 16 year old no, I know I you look at it from as a father's perspective Which I do see that to like oh yeah, yeah I don't know if I want my 16 year old daughter fall in love with yes, like I'll give you an example breakfast club Great movie classic movie one of the greatest movies of all time. Yeah wait for a kid when I'm watching it I'm identifying with the kids. Yeah, I want to slap all the kids watching it now. Now is it a dope? I'm watching I couldn't stand that movie I was like oh guys are being such like like little punk little punk the hell. Now I identify with the principal, the one that's like, young man, you're gonna get the bull by the horns.

More like that guy. Now I'm like, yeah, kick their ass. As a kid, I was like, wouldn't asshole. Yeah, I mean, it changes. There's never been little shit. Anyway, speaking of underwear, okay, you brought up a thong. It's a great trend.

I made it, I made a huge, a huge change. This is monumental. I'm trying to change you. You changed from purple to purple. Now you guys know for years, for years, and I grew up wearing the Speedo European, this how I grew up, right? We're in the Speedo European, and we've seen it.

I switched over to the boxer briefs. Whoa! I did. What made you do this? Sacralidge. You know, I was just like saggy butt now, or something. No, no, my butt's actually like a full undershirt now too. No more wife be here.

No, that'll never change. All right, all right, all right, all right. I've never changed. I just got nervous. No, I was just, you know, I was kind of getting, just, I don't know what happened. I just felt like trying, trying them on, see what happens. So a lot of power.

How's the test drive going? You know, they're comfortable. They're really, they're, what, hotter dude? There's a lot more fabric. That's the only thing that I mean. I mean, does it hug them? Good. It's, it's good enough.

Yeah. You know, because the speedo is, have you, is cure and time. You need some support there. What are you doing with it? What are you doing with it? You play with rotation and stuff like that? How'd you know?

How'd you rotate? Yeah. No, I don't, I don't do that with creepy or rotation. I'm going to get a call. Hey, you look like an old creep trying to say something to somebody. Hey, you want another point? Yeah, you want to play over here. Come here, let me an old creep trying to say something to somebody. Hey, you want me? I got another point. Yeah, you want to play it right here.

Come here, let me rub you a little bit. No, I switched them out. And part of the reason why I switched them out is when I first started dating Jessica, she told me that she liked boxer briefs and that she didn't necessarily like my speedo outdoor. Now, you know me, I don't give a shit, I'm a worm anyway. But now later on, I'm like, maybe I'll change him

and see what happens. She gets excited. I thought that was like for the it. Now, you know me, I don't give a shit, I'm gonna wear them anyway. But now, later on, I'm like, maybe I'll change them and see what happens. You know, she gets excited. See, I thought that was like for the ladies. No, it was for the comfort. It's not has nothing to do with the leg or the legs. But now I'm wearing them right now. I was, yeah, I was trying to figure it out.

So now you guys aren't gonna see the lines anymore. You guys always, we're always looking, right? Yeah, just there's the, yeah. All nice, clean presentation. All right, so we have to talk about the craziest thing ever that just happened. Okay, that just happened. Let's talk about this,

because you had said that this is a massive conspiracy. We just missed and I doubt it. How, like, what are we missing? Dude, so John McCaffee, you guys know he is, right? No, tell me who he is. So he's at, McCaffer's at McAfee. McAfee, you guys know he is, right? No, tell me who he is. So is it, so he's at McCaffee? McCaffee, sorry. He's the guy that invented McCaffee virus.

Right, okay. Billionaire, whatever. This guy's been on the run forever. Super controversial. Talks about how he has, first of all, they tried to charge him with some sexual assault stuff. Then he's doing some tax evasion.

When they, when you, this guy does these videos, where he talks about the government, how he has this information on top officials, and he'll release it if he ever gets killed, and all this crazy stuff. Get a tattoo saying that basically, if he gets suicide-ed, you know, that it wasn't him. So he was put in a Spanish prison, he got caught,

because he's been on a land making fun of the government They can't find me. They can't nobody can find me it. Just talking shit. He's a wild kind of crazy guy, right? And again, wait wait hold on go ahead Oh, no, yes, yes, dude Bro, where'd you get that? I'm gonna hit your, April your action. You gotta hit your eyes while we're buddy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, about how the government does this thing and he talked about Epstein, and he's always revealing like very conspiracy controversial shit. Talk about how he has all this information. Okay.

Now real quick, because I don't know much about this guy, this is all he's known for is the being the anti-virus guy. And then also being this like anti-government, anti super conspiracy theory on the lamb, and he looks like, this guy looks like a maniac. And you see, he hears some of the stuff that he says. He's very entertaining kind of crazy.

He's just whacked. Oh yeah, dude, I mean, he's like, he has parties with a bunch of girls, he's all pro-drugged. Weird kind of guy, very interesting. Anyhow, gets caught in, and he's put in a Spanish prison to get extra-igited to the US for tax evasion. He does a bunch of tweets leading up to this, saying stuff, I gotta read some of these tweets, dude,

because I gotta find some of these tweets. But some of these tweets are saying like, hey, the way the government's talking to me, I have a feeling they're gonna suicide me. Hey, I will never kill myself. Here's a tattoo and he puts, you know, whacked on his thing, just to remind everybody. Then he says something like this, check this out.

I've collected files on corruption governments. For the first time, I'm naming names and specifics. I'll begin with a corruption, IA agent and two Bahamian officials coming today. If I'm arrested or disappear, 31 plus terabytes of incriminating data will be released to the press. In other words, he's saying, if I get killed,

you guys, there will be a trigger that will be set, and then there'll be all this crazy information that's gonna come out. Here's the crazy thing. Here's the crazy thing. They find him in his cell, hung himself, right? So he killed himself. And remember, he did a bunch of tweets saying,

I will never do this. Killed himself in his cell, right afterwards, his Instagram account posts a queue, just a queue. Like, in other words, you know, like he's going to talk. He's going to queue and on stuff. Like it's almost like it's a trigger. Like, okay, here we go, let the shit out, they got to me. Bro, how?

This is like Epstein, but crazier. This is super deep state stuff. Yeah, because he's been talking about for a while, how they're trying to kill him. I was going to say, now, will this still get labeled as conspiracy theory? If a guy comes out, like, how much more obvious that it's not a conspiracy that if he says, if they try, I am not gonna do this. Yeah, I'm not going to kill myself. I'm tattooing myself to remind you all in case I get killed.

Speaking of that, he's a new tattoo artist. Yeah. Not really. I just got to be a billionaire. Yeah, like, come on. He's got like tribal ugly tattoos in his shoulders. Well, now here's what works against him. Yeah. Yeah. Not really impressed with that one. He's got to be a billionaire. What's up? Yeah, like, come on. He's got like tribal ugly tattoos in his shoulders. Well, not.

Now, here's what works against him. He looks broke. Here's what works against him. Is that what's in prison? Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Well, no, even though even his even his even his suit and tie look, he looks broke.

He's a lunatic. Now, here's it. That's the part that works against him is he's he comes across. Looks like the Banksy. He comes across is crazy. So, there'll be stuff that he'll say that's like, oh, nobody believes me, life sucks. Like he's very up and down.

So he can come across as a bit crazy. Yeah, but don't you think that, okay, that's our perception because that's what we get from the media and what we get from Google. So if this guy could get, if the government can get to him, don't you think too that all the photos that you find to him are gonna look like this?

Like, right? I mean, if you have somebody like the CIA who's coming after this guy, they're also going to wipe out all the stuff online or in media that actually makes him look even semi-normal for that exact reason that you just said right now. So that the average person goes like,

oh, well, he looks fucking crazy. Of course, he said some shit like that. I mean, listen to some of the tweets that he put in. What does Duck Duck go see? Well, I'm on there right now. So here's some of the tweets he did. This is when he was in the prison. There's the big queue right there.

Oh yeah, that got posted after he died, or when he died, or something. So check this out. This is one of his tweets when he's in prison. I am content in here. I have friends. The food is good all as well. Know that if I hang myself, Allah Epstein,

it will be no fault of mine. This is just tweets. That's the normal tweet. Bro, this is crazy to me. Look at this, here's another one. This is another tweet he put out. Getting subtle messages from US officials saying, in effect, we're coming for you, McAfee.

We're gonna kill yourself. I got a tattoo today just in case. If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whacked, check my right arm. Dude, this is wild shit. Well, and yet, like, is anything, any investigation gonna happen in that regard? Who's gonna investigate?

Exactly, so that's the point. It's like, what happens now? And so you said that there's gonna be more information this can be leaked out Well, I mean that's what they're thinking, you know, because like his death He didn't trigger say that well how how how scared to death are you as the 25 year old reporter fresh out of college and he's told you like hey if I get wet you're gonna go share these files Well, I mean, it's like, oh, yeah, story that could like totally change your career, but the same time, too, it changes your living room.

And he would constantly talk shit about how they can't find them, they can't catch them. Like, here's the thing, this is what I would say. Yeah, why taunt them? Now, let's play on the side of conspiracy theory. Let's say it was the deep state that killed them. I think that they would have found a way to stop this information from coming out first. Then once they found it, they said, we got it.

Now we can take them out. What do you mean if? You're actually, or you think it's a possibility this guy hung himself? No, no, no. What I'm saying is if you got killed, if you got whacked, which I did, then I would think that the people who whacked him found where this information was gonna be shared,

stop that first, right? Take care of that first because he set up, the theory is that he set up a trigger. So like if I get killed, all you guys are going down, this shit's gonna get released. So I think that they would have found that first, stopped it and said, all right, it's secure. We can take him out.

Or they were all part of that who did that also. So then when nothing comes out, everyone goes like, oh, he was full of shit. Yeah. Oh, dude. You know what I'm saying? How, I mean, okay, so how blatant, unless he's a total whack job and he's doing this on purpose

and like, oh, when I die, everyone's gonna be real confused. But how crazy would that be that you're calling it out and then they did it anyway? You know what I'm saying? Whoa, the little scary. Does Hillary Clinton have no, no, no, I'm just kidding. Dude, it seems a lot of it has been out in the public eye.

It's just like, it's whoever decides to actually look into it. You know, like then you start raising questions. And then if you raise questions, you're immediately a conspiracy theorist. So end of story. Oh, so it's a brilliant structure they have. I think if're immediately a conspiracy theorist. So end of story. Oh, I don't know. It's a brilliant structure they have. I think if you label somebody conspiracy theorist around this one, you're kind of a moron. I mean, this person went to the lengths of tattooing that he wouldn't kill himself and

is saying this well before he dies. And then he gets killed. It's kind of like, it's like Epstein. It's like, oh, the camera. It's even, it's even worse. Right. I think Epstein was obvious to us also, but Epstein didn't come out and say, oh, the camera's turned off. It's even worse. It's even worse, right? I think Epstein was obvious to us also, but Epstein didn't come out and say,

hey, if I get killed tomorrow, it's because someone killed, or I didn't commit suicide, I would never do that. How'd he done that, too? It would've made that even worse. The problem is the whole crazy side, right? Or the crazy angle, because they could always say, well, obviously he said that he's crazy. Yeah, but you know what, how much of that,

is that since the beginning, they've been promoting that, right? If you, if you're the government and you're afraid that this guy is going to put out all this information, you also would be filtering the stuff that others can see about it too. What didn't you? I mean, to me, I feel like that's the easy first step is let's make him out to look crazy and not look normal by only letting this stuff out, you know, to go viral. Terrifying. It's terrifying. It's like, they'll get you. They'll get you. So this stuff out, you know, to go viral. Terrifying. It's terrifying.

It's like, it's scrub all the information. So this just happened, huh? Literally. Wow. Literally just happened. And then he was 75 years old, you know, and I mean, when I saw it, I was like, oh shit.

So it's like making it's around. So blatant. I know. So we'll see if anything gets released, but I think that they would have found a way to stop that before taking them out. Or he did commit suicide, and he was actually a lunatic. And I tell you what, he kind of did come across as a bit.

I heard he's like really eccentric. Like he was a very crazy, like, did a lot of like, really interesting things. Yeah, very kind of a weird, weird, weird dude. In fact, at one point he ran as a libertarian for, I don't remember what office or whatever Which by the way I know I identify politically libertarianish, but I'll tell you something about the actual official libertarian Party it's a bunch of fucking crazy

Oh, oh, oh, there's just but I never win. There's a bunch of crazy people in there Pot smoking murder. Yes, isn't there some kind of like retreat You know for a libertarian that it was like it was wild dude There's a guy that runs as a libertarian who wears a shoe on his head. And he's like a wizard or something. I think I'm not making a shoe on his head. Yeah, dude, it's not.

Oh, yeah. They're not going anywhere with the lunacy. Anyway, hey, did you guys, let's switch gears here. Are you guys watching John Jones's progression in his training because he's bulking up, right? Yeah, he's with our buddy, yeah, efforting. Yeah, Stan efforting is training. Yeah, so he's I just I'm gonna send this to Doug Maybe he can post it. How's he looking massive? Oh really? Bro, he's like like Jack, huh? He went from I'm gonna send this to Doug right now Doug you can pull it up There was controversy because before that he he was really focusing on dead lifting

and a lot of the compound lifts. And some people were criticizing that he was moving a little slower in his next fight after that. So I'm wondering if, obviously he's addressed that, but I've seen him still lifting weights and he's super functional. He's 255 right now. His old weight that he would walk around at or whatever his fight weight was 225 right now. He's 255 right now. His old weight that he would walk around at

or whatever his fight weight was 225 right now, he's at 255. He fights at a light heavyweight, right? Not a heavyweight. So he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, but right now he's walking around at 255 and he doesn't look like he's really fat. Does he have a, the fights get?

Yeah, see, look at that. Look at how big he is. Now here's the, here's the challenge. I don't know how Stan is training him, but I do know that Stan, his history is in powerlifting and bodybuilding, and so he's an expert at muscle hypertrophy. Yeah, really interesting for that to be the choice.

Yeah, now, here's the challenge. I don't know what Stan's athletic training background is. So I have no idea. So I'm speculating just based off of his own competitions. When you train a fighter who understands their body and knows how their body moves and is connected to their body, that's what happens when you're at an elite level and you just pack a bunch of mass on them.

No, I don't know, I don't hope at all. No, because you're in a new body. You're not used to the same, exactly. You're not used to the same mass and the same, the biomechanics change a little bit, the speed and the timing changes. Well, is this prepping him to fight at heavyweight? Like does he have aspirations for that?

I'm not sure, but I know part of the strategy was to get him big and strong. He already has a fight that I think is scheduled, doesn't he? Check out to see who it is. He's got a fight schedule, but that's a good question, Justin. I don't know if it's,

now this would make sense if he's going into the heavyweight division. No, heavyweight. He's going into heavyweight. Oh, so he is going to find the heavyweight. So it does make sense. So it does. Yeah, he needs to pack on a lot of weight, dude. He does, but he can't, and technically,

well, you can pack on too much, but you gotta be careful because I've done this to myself. I've seen other people do this where. Well, we've talked about, this is the most common question that we have to get, that we answer every single week, which is this somebody wanting to Get buff or stronger, but then they also have a sport that they play and if you Sacrifice the skill of your sport at all in pursuit of getting bigger

You'll get worse at your sport Especially at this high of a level at this high of a level especially at this high of a level, at this high of a level, the amount of frequency consistency that this guy has to do of his sport to maintain his level of excellence is extremely high. And if at all you take away from that to build muscle and pursue it to be bigger and stronger,

it not only will it probably at most certain level hinder is fighting. And here's why, because I know people watching right now are like, what are you talking about? Okay, so let's say you have a fighter that's really really good and he fights at a 200 pound bodyweight in a class that's 200 pounds and he gains 20 pounds of muscle and now he's not fighting as good. Yes, he was still kicked the crap out of 200 pounders. In fact, he might actually have an easier time with 200 pounders because he's a lot bigger and stronger,

but that's not what happens in fighting. He went up to another weight class. So he's bigger and stronger, but now he's fighting other bigger, stronger guys who may be more than it for a while. Yeah, they may be more used to their body. Or there are two guys that have been 250 and they're cutting. Or 270 and they cut down it to two.

They're usually the case. Yeah, and they had been doing that for years. So they're used to fighting at that point. So yeah, no, this is. This is where that old man strength comes from like if you go wrestle your uncle that you to be in the jam John Jones is the goat like I I feel he'll figure it out man. I don't know My money would be in his direction in heavyweight well Yeah, and I know you know our our Stan is a smart guy

I'm sure John Jones has got a camp full of his fight team. So I I don't See them not knowing what we're talking about. You know, I'm saying like this. This is not them. No, we're just trying to explain it Yeah, so I think that I'm excited I'm very excited to see what what happens from and I think it's really exciting for Stan I really like Stan and so and I like John Jones John Jones is probably one of the most talented fighters. His only challenge is his, the mental side. He keeps fucking himself. It reminds me a lot of my gets in his own way.

Yeah, like it was like Tyson. Like Tyson, Tyson at the mind of Muhammad Ali and he would have, it would have been crazy. Now don't you, don't you feel though, you have to factor that in when talking about them being great or not great, right? Like some people say stuff like that. Like, oh, he would be the greatest if it wasn't for, but he's not, but he's not, and he's

not because of that. You're not going to be balanced. And there's some people that are, and that's, they're extremely smart the way they, they fight. And that's part of what makes them a great fighter is there. I mean, that's, there's a part of the IQ, IQ fighting is, is part of the deal. It's just like any sport, right? Like, there's guys that I know that like in football

or basketball that are not the most physically dominant, but then their IQ is so high, they're considered one of the greats. Well, they read the whole game, they tell you what could happen in any given moment. So I had a pretty awkward phone call last night. I was like, so a court he's out of town and was like staying down in San Diego with her sister.

And like, I was just sitting in the couch by myself and like trying to take care of dogs and everything and I get this FaceTime and so I got the FaceTime and Courtney, like, is there an answer? She's there with like all these other ladies and every one of them were like like three sheets to the wind, you know? They were just having a good time. And I'm like, oh, hey, and they're trying to introduce themselves on FaceTime to me and she's kind of passing it around.

I'm like, oh, I shirtless after workout or something. Yeah, well, no, I was just sitting on the couch. And so one of the ladies is just like, oh, where's your other hand? Ha, ha, ha, ha. You know, I'm like, oh my god, this is what I'm dealing with, right? And so I just was like, all right, I'll be able to play this.

So I turned it down. I had my little weener dog on my lap. Oh, it's right on my weener. You know, I'm a pet. Wow. Wow. And I was like, this is the most awkward conversation I've ever had with people.

I don't even know. You know, and then like, I'm saying, how do I get out of this? Who's 40 singles? She was just like, just turning red. And like, she, I don't even know. And then I'd say, how do I get out of this? Oh, it's 40 signals. She's just like, just turning red. And like, she, I don't know. She thought I was gonna be a funny idea to include me in and I'm like, does a terrible idea. If you don't ever do that again.

You know, it's funny. This is like a little, let's like, like an untold secret, I think. If you're a guy and you're around a bunch, like a group of women that outnumber you, and they're drunk. They get intimidating. They get really bad.

They get really dirty. They're like, rogging, aggressive. Because they feel confident, you're by yourself. There's a whole bunch of them. And they just say shit and you're just like, wow. Yeah. I don't even know you. You guys are like, yeah.

Yeah, they're coming in hot. You know what was the worst was when I, I'm thinking back now, I'm starting to get all these memories. Because you know was the worst was when I got I'm thinking back now I'm starting to get all these memories because you imagine if the roles were reversed on that how awkward it would never It would you know yeah you made a group of guys You'd be in jail for that of course. Yeah, of course guys are terrible But I I remember I'm thinking back now as a young trainer 18 years old as a personal trainer In the gym and I remember some of the clients that I would have these women in their 40s or even members that would see me regularly.

Oh my god, they were terrible. Some of the shit that they would say to me, I couldn't believe I had a lady slap my ass every time I walk by. It's like a 40 year old. I had a manager did that to me when I was working at Red Robin. She was just like, oh, hey, how's my handsome? Whatever and she'd like, push me in. Wow. I meet you in the cooler. Push. No way. Handsome whatever and she'd like Slap me in the Meet you in the cooler No way, no one wants to talk about how it happens the other way to socially

Start a meeting That's because she's not too because you don't feel threatened. Let's be honest. Did you feel threatened Justin? No That's the part. Yeah, that's why I'm being playful funny by by saying that, right? Because I do understand that. Because if it was a big dude, that's what I remember. I do feel a little different. I have experience for me. Oh, yeah. I'll never forget that.

And I gave. Tell the whole story. Yeah, well, it gave me a whole new understanding of what it probably feels like for women and why it is so different for women than as men is because there is a real physical threat that that could happen. So if a little five foot one, one 15 pound girl grabs my ass, it's not very scary because

I know I could physically palm her with my hand and keep her away if I want to. But, you know, if the role is a reverse for a girl when that happens, it's extremely intimidating. And I felt that for the first time when we met Kyle. I remember the nice loving embrace on the other back. Kyle Kingsburg, you know, is MMA fighter, but we do black belt MMA bad as super strong. Great guy.

The by the way, we look for 230 pound just monster. And you know, he's a very fun and flirtatious. And he's not, you know, he doesn't, doesn't prefer one sex over the other and we have fun. We were in the coffee shop one of the first times we ever hung out and met and he did a real like a you know low-back reach around on me and it was very long time You looked at me and Justin and me and Justin were hey bro, the best we can do is call the police. We're like, Sal, Adam's been claimed.

Yeah. Because he could cold you down. Yeah, Adam's with. And I went flush and probably just like I'm sure women have felt that have had similar situation is what do I do? Do I make a big deal about it? And then potentially get penned and then he's gonna

or you just smile like, yeah, like pretend like I kind of like it but I don't or do I just give this look you know like that all sense are swirling around in your head and that has never happened to me before and so I never happens and you get whatever just shit your pants. Yeah. Just leave you alone. Yeah right away. It's a good move man. I don't want to discuss this. Kate move. Anyway speaking of disgusting things, did you guys hear about this journalist that took a subway sandwich,

a tuna fish subway sandwich, and got it DNA tested. So he tested the tuna, and you know what they found? What was, oh my God, is it a different species? They found no tuna. What? They found no tuna DNA at all.

Dude, I've seen okay, and I'll roll I've seen I've seen what does that mean that they squeeze out of a tube So so now here's the thing I think it hasn't so way already gotten trouble for this bullshit before it's so nasty Yeah, so it's already terrible. They're like a 90% bread and like 10% meat like a 90% bread and like 10% meat. What's the one? It was in like, 10% a lab? Well, so here's what,

so it says a weekend, New York Times report, took a look at what goes into the eatery's tuna offering. So it's talking about subway. And even had some sandwiches tested by a lab. The time said that the lab found no identifiable tuna DNA in the tuna sandwiches the papers had tested. Now here's a nine. Not even like a pixie dust,

at least supplement company's pixie dust. I mean, is it another fish? What are we dealing with here? I don't, I have no idea. Now here's the thing, I don't know if, so, here's a defense. The defense from subway, they're saying this, once the tuna has been cooked,

its DNA becomes denatured, which is true, meaning that the fish's characteristic properties have likely been destroyed making it difficult if not impossible to identify. Now here's why I'm leaning towards Subway. This is why I'm leaning towards Subway. Because you made a lot of tuna sandwiches. Oh, I love that one.

I love that one. No, because what would you replace it with? Tuna is relatively cheap. It wouldn't make any sense to replace it with another fish because other fish is more expensive. So what would they, what are the benefit? Is it the most, or the cheapest? It's very inexpensive.

Tuna fish is very inexpensive. What's the cheapest fish, Doug? I feel like, I feel like Macroll. No, I think Macroll or Capfish, those are all cheaper. They are, but when you're not, when you're- I think they put cod and fish stick. Not when you're doing it in mass.

And also, I don't think you could make cod, for example. Look at Lappia, maybe. No, yeah, Taupeo's cheap too. Cheap is fish by the pound. Yeah. But I mean, it would have to taste and look like tuna. It's probably chicken gizzards. Well, I mean, you put enough mayonnaise

and other stuff like that, you can just say. It's so sweet. What it wouldn't be hard to do is to make some artificial flavoring that's supposed to taste like tuna and then put it on the cheaper fish. So it could be the hack, dude. It could be another fish that's much cheaper to purchase than tuna.

It just doesn't make sense. I don't know, I'm thinking. You could buy tuna in bulk. You have easy distribution. I don't think it's as easy with other fish products. Well, this is, I mean, this is just one of those things. You start to really have to consider with fast food. Like how are they able to maintain

these profit margins? Well, the little prices. You wanna get, you know, it's like, then you look at something like Taco Bell and you got under fire for their meat. It's here in the back. T'lapia. So T'lapia's cheaper.

So what is to stop them? Can you tell me about a place like Subway where we're talking about probably millions of pounds of fish that they're moving a month, right? Because you would you think that tilapia is tuna? You have to add more shit to it. All you have to do is add a flavoring. Once it's all chopped up and mixed in their little mix of onions and relish and mayonnaise and everything else in that, you don't think it'll be harder to disguise a different kind

of fish as tuna? I guess. I mean, they also say canned fish is the cheapest. There you go. So there you go. But when they buy it, is it bought, a doubt spot in the can? How do you, what do you mean,

the buying a one tuna and then doing a while? No, imagine they buy it like a huge... Large can. Yeah, like, so they're arguments. 55 gallon drum. Yeah, that's right. I mean, I would seriously it would be like that Wouldn't you think they're not buying by a cat we think they're the little fucking cat can't open her to the back like this

Come on Steve we got 12 more fucking do to sell it I Tell you what I wouldn't feel that bad knowing that I was eating philope instead of tuna though You know I mean it's not that big of a deal to me, you know I mean well It's probably most likely because what else else do you think you can be? Cat. Exactly.

Wow. You know? Well, so you want to talk about... So, you want to hear about something that's supposed to be tasty. This is also gross. Do you know that food regulations... I'll taste something gross. Food regulations allow a certain amount of like rat feces and rat hair in...

Your catch up is like that. Your ketchup has a certain amount of dead rats and bugs that it allows. Yeah, because it's impossible to eliminate it. It's impossible, they all have a threshold. So you literally, if there's something there, so is milk, everything's like that. Wow.

Yeah, dairy's like that, everything's like that. Because it's impossible. You have this, you're, you're, you know, these massive, you know, tanks, with thousands and tens of thousands of gallons. Of course, a rat or a bug or a fly gets in there. So it is. It's, okay, you can only have so much, which is kind of gross when you think about it. That's right. Now you worked in some of these big food factories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I remember you saying when you worked in the way protein plays how it wasn't like the way that you throw it in the unit measuring it. It's not regulated. It fell on the floor scoop it or anything. It's not regulated, fell on the floor, scooped it right back. You know, there's a bunch of teenagers in a simply-lined run, things like that. Two for them, one for me. I mean, it's no different once you make it into the restaurant industry. So I mean, I had to experience their season. It opened my eyes with all of a seven-minute-editorial. And they're like, same thing. I'm saying, oh, shit, the fly went, oh, well.

I'm scared to wear this. It's stir-up, stir-up. That's why I'm always super nice to the waiter or the waitress, because I know. Oh shit to fly with oh well That's why I'm always super nice to the waiter of the waitress because I know I worked in restaurants Oh, I know dude if they go on the back like they can do anything they want your food That's it man, and I don't you don't want it to keep going back. I'll tell you that right now really oh Yeah, is that what's the worst thing you ever seen? Well, I mean there's been airs from certain areas sprinkled in silence. Oh, yeah, there's been, anyways, I don't want to get into it.

It's really gross. But like, you know, there's been stuff from your nose that made it in. Oh, yeah, sort of sauces. But like stuff, like I would, like, I just was a, I was never a part of that because that's just awful. It's just being awful human beings. I feel like it's being a coward. That's why I would never do it Like if I don't like you I'm gonna do it to your face not gonna do it

But I just know that there's people out there that exists that do stuff like that is what I know for sure Yeah, and they're getting paid minimum wage after garlic hides all that I think More hot sauce please So the shit I got shit on Saturday what happened? I got a shit on Saturday. What? Like literally. Wait, wait, someone shit on you? Bird shit on a bird. I haven't had that happen in so long.

You have good luck. He said I was gonna ask that. So I brought it up. So who made that up? Look it up, Doug. Tyans. Tell me, what is it? Tyans turn everything bad luck into good luck.

If you step in shit or bird shit's on you, I guess to make it like not bad, like, hey, good luck. I was at the wedding and we just changed, I just put a white shirt on, getting right ahead out to go get something to eat with Katrina and we're walking down the street for not even two minutes and look over my shoulder and pick up a bird shit right on my shoulder.

Yeah, a bunch of fucking seagulls over there. That happened to me on my hair. Laguna beach. That was brutal. Yeah, I would say, Doug, whats. I'm having me on my hair. Lagoon and beach. That was brutal. Yeah, I would say Doug. What am I gonna get? I don't know. I mean, I switched to duck duck go and I'm not sure it's good for me for finding things quickly. It's good. It's good luck. I put and now I got a bunch of articles. Oh, see? It's anything definitive to me. I know it's not good. Duck duck goes not very good, huh? Well, at least, no I heard that, that's why I was asking.

The reason why I brought it up was that exact reason because I was hoping I'd get some, I have some good luck for them. See now the cool thing is if it goes on your head, boom baby wife gone, cause you don't have hair. So, yeah, the shirt though. The shirt was a garbage off.

Just, the shirt was a problem though, you know. This is a good deal. I'm lucky though, money you think, you think it's money, huh? Anything having to do with shit, I just want my parents to tell you, step in shit, you get shit on,

you're supposed to get money. Come on Doug, the suspense is killing me right now. Okay, where am I gonna get man? I wanna, yeah, there's a sense when the bird poop's on you, it is transferring its prosperity. Oh, you're probably gonna get rich now. Wow, wow. But I know that the Italian are where the origin is. But, I know, where the origin is, but.

I know, all I know is my family would always say. Yeah, I bet you don't. It seems to be a lot of people who say that it is good. Oh, yeah. So you're probably okay. Well, think about it, the odds, right? So I mean, you're lucky just to get that. This is true.

You know what I'm saying? I felt a little bit, too. Yeah, yeah. I ruined my clam chatter I was eating, but I thought, oh, yeah, I was literally eating clam chatter. I'm like, this is just not good. Not good now. I was literally eating clam chudder, but this has just got not good. What do you call as astrological signs, like the whole zodiac?

I'd rather go to the zodiac, what they have to say for me to get shit on. Yeah, well Adam, don't remember, don't make fun of that. Adam actually, oh yeah, he believes in that for us. Those are real. Sorry, you ever read them?

Go to, it always, yeah, there's always something in there. You can either do that. Anybody who did eyes this, I challenge you. Okay, go back, everybody listen here. Listen, listen Linda, okay, if you don't believe these things, it's in the stars. This is what confirmed it for me, so this will work for you too. Everybody has dated a crazy girlfriend or boyfriend, right?

So go back, look up what their birthday was. Look at what their birthday was. You, look at what their birthday was. You can find this online. You can find like a, how I match with them. It's not my fault, so I'm a Sagittarius. I'm a Sagittarius. I'm a Sagittarius. Put in your birthday.

Put in their birthday and look up how you match. And you'll see like, I bet you just describes the drama in your relationship like to a T. Like whatever, whatever was going on with that person, like you'll, you do that and you're like, whoa, science. What are your science again? You're a curious like, I am. And what are you with that person, like you'll, you do that and you're like, whoo, science. What are your science again? You're a curious like, I am a curious.

And what are you again? Scorpio. Scorpio, that's right. That's my daughter, the daughter of people. Yeah, Aquarius is apparently, I think something like 90. I'm intelligent and I think maybe you can look this up. Very, very true. That's very charismatic.

You can look this up. I think something like 90% of the people in the American Hall of Fame are a Quarance. Did you guys know this? Of course. Look that up, Doug, because I think that's a true statistic. What's now? That's weird? 90% in the Hall of Fame and the American in that is actually the American Hall of Fame. I was on the Italian. What is the American Hall of Fame for what sport? I have no idea what it is. Yeah, it's made up. You know, the American Hall of Fame. Listen, there's a like a American.

Yeah, the American Hall of Fame. Listen, there's a high-cut American on it. Doesn't get more generic than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to the American college university. Oh, really? The University of School. Yeah. Okay, here we go.

I'm looking for a liberal arts degree. I can't find it. Cool story. Yeah, that's a bullsh- Some Hall of Fame, anyway. Yeah. Something about that. That ain't accurate.

Some about aquariums being awesome. Aquarians? Aquarians Aquarius. Aquarius, my friend. Aquarius Aquaman. Aquaman. What is it Aquarius? We even have a song that is that an instrument?

What's it Aquarian? Aquarian? Aquarian? I have no idea. Aquarian. It's like an instrument and a fish had sex. That's what it is. That's what it Aquarian.

Can you imagine the noises that would make? It's like half whale half, half a blue hole. Mom, I'm gonna drop my accordion into the water. It's an aquarium. It's just 90% of those are in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I don't know in case you're wondering. Speaking of water, so I was at yesterday I did Mark Bell's podcast, right? So I drove all the way up to Sacramento and I'm in there and I did the,

what's this podcast called Power Project? Power Project, yeah. Yeah, anyway, great guy. Love Mark Bell, very nice, very hospitable. Everybody there was super awesome, but I go in there and you guys know me, I always pay attention to the supplements that people have around in their office. And that's like a place of power lifter.

I mean, there's some massive beasts in there. In fact, I went in there and I felt very small. But I see supplements and I see a bunch of element. So element T, one of the products. Oh, they got some of there. A ton, right? Oh, awesome. So I asked him and I said, have you noticed?

Yes, what do they think about it? Exactly. I said, have you noticed any difference in drinking, you know, increasing your sodium? He's like, and I remember, Mark Bell does a very low carb time to diet. Oh yeah, he's like, it's huge, huge pumps. Especially him. Energy, everybody was drinking their product. And then we started talking about the potential success of this company.

You know, it's funny. This is true now. There's three components that make things very palatable, right? Salt, sugar, and fat. Okay, so when you drink gatorade, you got a lot of sugar in there, and it tastes really good. Yeah. Gatorade has electrolytes also, not nearly as much sodium as element T, and we've talked about why that's beneficial for athletes and people with low carb diets or people have, you know, non-processed food type diets.

You probably need more sodium in your diet if you're one of those people. The high sodium content of element T is why it's so damn hyperpalatable, because as I'm drinking it and it's sugar-free, this is way better than sugar-free any other drink, and it's because it's so high in sodium. So we were talking about it, I'm like,

oh my God, there's like unintended brilliance in their formulation. No, 100%. I don't know if it's unintended. I'm sure you got to think that that was intentional. I'm sure that maybe because they didn't do the sugar, you got to make up and you're probably not going to add fat into something like that.

So I imagine that. Yeah, because Gay and Ray, when they first started out, was very much like electrolyte driven. And it was not shocking. And it was higher and they just moved away from that. And it got mainstream and it's like high fructose corn syrup and everything else that throw in there. Wasn't it invented for the University of Florida?

Yeah, because, I mean, the humidity is insane. Like I experienced that just going into St. Louis from one of my first football games, the Midwest, and I literally lost 10 pounds before I even touched the field. Wow. It was just, I just would sweat. I wasn't used to it, and acclimate. Wow. It was just, I just would sweat.

I wasn't used to it. I didn't acclimate to it. So it was fresh as your performer. Crushes. I was like, I was like basically dizzy throwing up. It was awful. Oh, you got that bad. Yeah.

Oh wow. Speaking of our partners, if I don't, I think I've shared this maybe once on the podcast before and I know I've posted it on my Instagram at least once, but last night, watching the new episode of Loki, I went down and because you guys remember I talked about how I got like, you know, 40 boxes of blueberry. Yeah, yeah, that's food or whatever. And so, and fruity is like my favorite. So fruity is number one and then I'd say blueberries, number two, but I've gone through all

the fruity now, I'm onto blueberry, but what I forgot, which is amazing, and somebody in our forum first turned me on to this, and that is banana sliced up and the blueberry is the most amazing combination you've ever had. So if you haven't done, so maybe that, not with the fruity, the blueberries, the move. Blueberries with the banana, the banana and blueberry mix together.

I have a box of blueberry. I'm not gonna try that. What kind of milk do you use? Are you almond milk or do you go regular milk? So I'm normally almond milk. Although last night I was actually drinking 2% because Katrina gets mad when I drink the whole milk for max because it's the whole raw milk.

Who's drinking the 2% normally? Our nanny. Oh, I see. So she had it in there. So she stole her. Yes, stole her milk. Will she do that or get yelled at by the wife because I'm drinking max. She gets mad. I would normally drink maxes, but she's like, maxi's she had it in there. So stole her. Yes, stole her. Will you see that or get yelled at by the wife because I'm drinking Max.

She gets mad. I would normally drink Max's, but she's like, Max, you got to take that one. Yeah, exactly. You take one for the team. One of them works for you. Yeah, you don't wonder why. Yeah, so I drink roses, Bill, glass.

Now, when you eat a banana in public by itself, I don't eat bananas by themselves. Why? That's just for where you're heading right now. Really? I do not eat bananas. I have never ate bananas. So if I do, I do it really slow and just lean into it.

I imagine not a big throw it real quick. Just, oh yeah, just, you know, like, I actually don't like bananas by themselves at all. I would never just eat a banana. I don't like the texture. But banana in like smoothies or like the magic spoon cereal, that banana mixed with stuff is or like the magic spoon cereal. That's true. Banana mixed with stuff is amazing.

So I love banana. I love banana flavored stuff. If it's like a flavored drink or whatever, but I do not like bananas. No, I like bananas. And I remember when I'd go to work with my dad, we would always bring, you know, sometimes we'd have fruit, and salami, or meat, or whatever.

And I remember watching my dad eat it and he would, he never would bite the banana. He'd always cut off the piece and eat it with his knife. So, it was manly. Yes, and I remember like every guy I knew in my family, they ate a banana that way. That is the name. But as a kid, you don't know, you know,

some like why are you guys eating bananas that way? Why don't you just put it in your mouth? As you grow up, I eat apples like that. I get a carpet and put the knife. Just put the banana part, I mean, I get that. Yeah, I don't even need it. I don't want to do it like Justin said. Justin, like, when he eats a banana, if you want to stare, I'll give you something.

Justin eating a banana almost as awkward as watching you hip thrust. It's like, it's right up there. I'm waiting one day. I'm going to walk in Justin's eating a banana and you're hip thrusting. I'm just going to fucking walk back. You can really dream of it. Right back outside. He's like, what if I do put I have to say the end of mind pump.

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That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. A first caller is Santiago from Ecuador. Santiago, how can we help you? Hey guys, so basically my question is I just finished Maps and a bullick. I'm right now doing maps performance. I'm doing a three day away a phase one. So it's three days a week. I'm currently wearing a wearable that tracks my sleep, my recovery, et cetera, my heart rate. So my question is if it would make sense to add another day, if it might recover, it's good.

No, that's a really good question. And it's a trap that a lot of us fall into when we're getting into fitness. So the optimal dose of exercise for maximum results is not the same as the upper tolerable limit of exercise that your body can withstand. So in other words, you might be able to withstand more exercise, you might be able to withstand more stress, but that's not going to get you to your goal any faster. In fact, it may actually slow down,

and often times does slow down your progress. And also, it takes another tool off the table because at some point if you come really advanced, you may need to add extra exercise just to get your body to progress even further. So don't fall into this trap. If you're progressing, you feel good, performance is improving, you're stronger. Don't add more just because you think you can. Leave it alone, don't fix what's not broken,

allow your body to adapt and improve. Now that being said, if he's been doing this for a while and he's at a plateau and he's got great recovery, great sleep, that is an option. But I think it shouldn't be the first option, right? I think that before you, the last place I ever wanted to is to add more training days to my clients. So like we want to manipulate exercise and programming

and nutrition and do things like that and movement throughout the day. I want to play with all those things first before I say, hey, now let's add another day. Just because you're adding another day of exercise that you're now pretty much committing yourself to if you want to maintain whatever that physique is that you build. So, well, did you just start maps performance?

Like recently? Yeah, I'm finishing phase one this week. Oh yeah, buckle up. So, yeah, that's the thing. I mean, you're starting an entirely new stimulus and your body's gonna respond just because it's different than what you've been doing before. So, I don't know, give it a chance to sort of develop and ride it out. So if you are still getting results right now, I mean, I would focus on just, you know, the benefits of what you've

experienced so far and the strength of it. Yeah, and performance progressively adds volume anyway. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's all in there. Yeah, phase two, phase three, and so on. You're gonna get more and more volume. So just hang on, hang tight, and let the program get your body where you want it to go. Awesome, thanks guys. And the second part of my question is, I've been focusing a lot more on performance

rather than aesthetics. I've been following your advice. And I'm enjoying it more. So my question is, what program would it be beneficial to follow after I'm done with performance? To keep focusing more on a strong or powerful lift? I'd say map strong. Let's go on map.

Also, you can only ask one question. So I was going to give you a free program. I'm not going to get a free beer. I'm just kidding. No, rude. Santiago, I'm going to send you map strong. Follow that after Maps Performance. You're going to love Map Strong.

It's funny, we created Map Strong and we didn't really have expectations that it would explode the way it did. People did it and they become one of the favorite programs that people follow. Power lift would be great too, though, because I mean, Power Lift is literally designed to bring up all those four major lifts. So if you want something about all about performance, I mean,'s bare bones, yeah, yeah, it gets right after. No, we're gonna shoot Map Strong over to you, okay Santiago? Awesome, thank you very much guys.

I appreciate it. No problem, man. Yeah, that's the trap that I fall into every single time. Everybody does it. I work out and I'm like, oh shit. I can do more. You're antsy. Yeah, like I just think he's probably like feeling good

and like wants to just keep going on and on and on. But you know what part after it. You know also got it That's how you it's also how you find that out though too, right? You keep doing it No, no What I do like is that he has he has a tool and by the way This is the better way to use these tools to right is not like oh it says I'm great So I should just necessarily do more and do more it's now I have a baseline that I've been measuring so well. Now let's see what happens when I decide to ramp up my intensity, excuse me, at another day, something like that.

And then let's go back to this tool that I have and see, do I get a positive benefit from it or does it negatively impact my sleep and my recovery? And that should give you your answer if you're going in the right direction or not. Yeah, you know what the big challenge is with this is there's two. One is I wanna get faster results, but then here's the other one that's even harder, and this is the one that I struggle with. It's not necessarily that I wanna get faster results.

I've been working out for so long that adding even a little bit additional performances like a miracle, cause I'm doing this for forever, and I'm on the other end now of, you know, 35, right? So it's not like my body's gonna continue to progress forever, but it's I love working out. So if I think I can add another workout and I love that hour workout,

then my tendency is to add more exercise. But oftentimes that's self-defeating. So it's something that fitness fanatics in particular struggle with. Our next caller is Kate from California. Hey Kate, how can we help you? Hi guys, thanks for answering my question. I really appreciate it.

Yeah, let's go. So I started weightlifting probably like five years ago. And at the time, I was very active in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. So the training that I did really was just to compliment my martial arts. Since then, I have not been training so much in BJJ and I just want to focus more on my physique. I've never followed a structured program, so I was really interested in choosing one of the maps programs. And I have my eye on Annabolic.

I have a question though, as regards the, what do you guys call it, like the little extra add on programs. And maps mods. The mods. Yes. Yeah, my shoulders are something that I really want to see some more development in.

So I was wondering if I could add one of the shoulder mods to maps Annabolic. You could, but I would, if I had my choice with you, I could add one of the shoulder mods to NAPS and a Balik. You could, but I would, if I had my choice with you, I would actually prefer you go anabolic, then aesthetic in that order, and then aesthetic you'll actually get an opportunity to make shoulders your focus. I just think you'll get great benefits in your shoulders

just from running anabolic, and before throwing more volume on it with a a mod or just trying to add more like follow the program and then transition into a program that was designed to sculpt and bring up body part. Okay, are you still doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or anything else? Or is this going to be pure now resistance training? It's pretty much pure resistance training. It's pretty much pure resistance training. I have about four or five days during the week that I do like to go to the gym. I do cycling and running on

the side, but that's more like a fun thing for me. Okay, yeah, so I'm with Adam. Maps and a Balak. Now that you have the choice in Maps and a Balak to do two or three foundational workouts a week, I would recommend that you do three. And then the trigger sessions, if you want, you can focus on your shoulders with the to do two or three foundational workouts a week. I would recommend that you do three. And then the trigger sessions, if you want, you can focus on your shoulders with the trigger sessions on the days in between. And you should see significant progress

with strength, muscle, and body sculpting. So let's go in that direction. After you do MAPS and Ebola, the three foundational workouts, the trigger sessions, after you complete it, then move to MAPS aesthetic, like Adam said, and then let's see what happens to your body, but I think you're gonna do phenomenal. You're gonna see a lot of great results, especially if you really focus on those trigger sessions hitting them multiple times a day, which a lot of people don't really read that part, and I want to emphasize that because you're gonna get that recovery, and also it's going to help you to boost your performance going into the next workout. Now you said you don't have maps in a ball.

Correct? I do not know. I've been scrolling through all the programs and I'm like, okay, which ones for me? Well, okay, I want you to check under your chair right now. My cat's there. You're getting a program. Yeah. We're sending maps and a ball of tea for free. Oh my gosh.

Everybody gets maps. All right, so we're gonna send that over to you and then follow it like we just said. And please keep in touch. Let us know what your progress is. And more specifically. That's more specifically with the trigger sessions. I think I would actually do.

So when you do your trigger sessions, you'll see, I listen, watch the videos, make think I would actually do. So when you do your trigger sessions, you'll see, and listen, watch the videos, make sure, here's a mistake, everybody thinks that trigger sessions are like another workout, the intensity level is supposed to be a lot lower, you're not trying to. Just getting a pump. That's right, you're just kind of getting a pump,

but when you do it because shoulders are a focus, what I would have you do as a client is I'd say, hey, I want you to do rear flies, lateral raises, and some presses with the band. There you go. Every trigger session, and we do like three rounds of that. That would be like my prescription to you before we scale into maps aesthetic. Sounds great. All right.

Let us know what happens, okay, Kate? Thanks. Super excited. Thank you guys. No problem. Yeah. Yeah, just under her chair I don't mind to say that Yeah, well you don't like it because you have the email right Doug right? She you have her email already or not? Uh Jerry does. Yeah. Oh, it's too bad

Because if you had it right away, it would be kind of cool to like Him already be sending it and then you steal the check your right pocket. Yeah, just kidding chick your email right now boom It's there, you Boom, it's there. You know, she's gonna do junk file. It just because she stopped Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and is focusing entirely on resistance. She's gonna get the benefits of that. Oh yeah, she's gonna build some good muscles.

That's why I like this question because again, it highlights all of our tendency. I feel it's just humans, right? We want to do all of that. I want to build my shoulders. So I see you guys have a mod program, I see you have a program that's for aesthetics, like, but you're gonna get tremendous benefits from just running anabolic. And if you want the max benefits from the mod, the max benefits from aesthetic,

then you will follow it in that order. If you jump, there's steps. You don't want to like do all the steps at the same time. Yes, that's right. All right, our next caller is Mike from Pennsylvania. Hey, Mike, what's up? How can we do? Oh, yo, Mike, what's up? Yo, what's good, boys? How are we doing today? Yeah, good.

What's going on, man? Oh, we got a live one. Oh, let's go, dude. First of all, I want to say thank you for having me on. Love the podcast. Young personal trainer. Love listening to you guys. You guys have such good advice that you know,

can't really get from a lot of people. But so I have a question. So I need to know how do I balance out my core again because like as a kid no problems, no injuries as I'm growing older, I have like a left shoulder problem, hip you know, we all problems. But I tend to use my right side of my core like on every single exercise core, non-core. And it seems like I'm using my top left ab in my second to top right ab, but the whole core on my right side, I'm activating that way more. And I'm, you know, I don't know if it's because my head, my, you know, high ankle, sprained shoulder, but I guess my question for you guys would be where do I start

to get that imbalance back? Well, there's two things that come to mind right away for me is one, I would definitely do if you don't have maps prime, I would do an assessment to see if there's a breakdown and there's a good chance you've got to break down somewhere all the way down to your feet, right? And that's running all the way up the kinetic chain. So that's the first thing is I'm trying to look to see if I have limited range of motion in one of my major joints from the foot all the way up, right? So that'd be the first thing. And then an exercise that seems very tedious,

and I remember I rarely did it as a personal trainer and later on found the value of this would be the quadruped. And when you do the quadruped, do not do it like you see some trainers and some people in the gym where they're just kind of going back and forth like as fast as they can through the exercise. Like you are trying to articulate every inch of that movement and make it look perfect and seamless on both sides. And you're probably going to see and feel a discrepancy on one side or the other,

and your goal is to get that to match. It's a great exercise. We call it the bird dog too, for other people don't know what that quadruple is, but yeah, so opposite arm and leg, and really pointing your fingers on your toes in opposite directions, but not allowing your hips to rotate,

is that the biggest part of that exercise that you need to focus on. But yeah, to be able to figure that out, you'll be able to actually see a quite a bit of discrepancy there if it's there. And to be able to stay in there and really intensify the tension in your muscles to start trying to communicate again

where you need to communicate. Yeah, you can put a stick down your spine while you're doing bird dogs and making sure that the stick stays in contact with the different points you need to communicate. Yeah, you can put a stick down your spine while you're doing bird dogs and making sure the sticks they's in contact with the different points you're spine. So back of the head, upper shoulders, the pelvis, so that when you're doing it, it doesn't fall off. Have we done a good video for this? You know, I don't think we have. Yeah, I mean, really,

I think we did a bird ball. We did do one, but I mean, not in like, you know what, we're shooting great detail. We're shooting, we're shooting fitness tips. I think today or tomorrow with Eli put that on our list. Yeah, because that's, you know,, we're shooting great details. We're shooting fitness tips, I think, today or tomorrow with Eli, put that on our list up to shoot because that's, you know, that it's such a basic movement that I think people are familiar with, but no one really does it well. I think, and so we can talk about.

Any of those contralateral type movements and exercises you can incorporate where we get that sort of rotating left to right or like just getting that type of channel opened up is gonna help a lot. This is also how I would prime all of your workouts. That would be part of my warm up now if I was you. So that would, I would start my workouts with this exercise

to get everything kind of firing equally before you go into your other bigger movement. Yeah, now you did say a couple things that were a little confusing. You said something about your upper left ab or upper right ab. So as far as the abs are concerned, they don't really work that way.

It's there's two attachments. And so you're not gonna activate one brick of your ab over the other. However, you can definitely have a left to right in balance because of the external internal obliques. And so one thing you can test, Mike, is your rotational ability. So, you can try a windmill,

or you can just stand up straight, rotate as far as you can without twisting your hips in one direction, try in the other direction, and see if there's a difference between the two. And rotational exercises will help typically balance out the right to left discrepancy when it comes to the core. Well, this is why I recommend Maps Prime. Right, so Maps Prime is going to highlight that. So if in there is the wind to left, discrepancy when it comes to the core. Well, this is why I recommend Maps Prime, right? So Maps Prime is going to highlight that.

So if in there is the windmill test, so it's going to highlight the rotational component that Sal's talking about. And then it's also going to highlight what I was talking about with you may have some sort of breakdown in your feet and work your way up. So it's going to tell you a lot. And in there, whichever wherever you have breakdown,

there's exercises and movements that you should specifically be doing to address that issue. And that should literally become your routine that you follow before all your workouts to prime the body properly to start and balance the system. Do you have access to MAPS prime, Mike? I do not. So I started listening to you guys like a month ago, so like I'm kind of catching up on all this stuff. All right. Yeah, I do not. I I started listening to you guys like a month ago, so like I'm kind of catching up on all this stuff.

All right. Yeah, I do not. I definitely want to get it. We're going to send we're going to send that to you and because you're a trainer, it's going to be extremely valuable for your clients as well. The compass test and the priming movements, it's going to be tremendous for how you end up training your clients as a tremendous tool. And if there's any trainers listening right now, if you don't have Maps Prime, you're making a huge mistake. It's an extremely valuable tool for training. Mike, I always like to ask to our trainers.

Who's your favorite host? And why is it me? Oh, dude. Who's my favorite dude? I have all three you guys, man. I love my favorite part is like about the podcast is the beginning part where you guys get a little, you know, in the conspiracies and stuff.

I love that part. Well, Mike, I'm gonna gonna take away I'm gonna take maps prime back away. Yeah you said all of my games for free. You can try. It's almost as bad as the dutters. No I'm just kidding. Thanks for calling man. Hey hey good luck to you guys. I appreciate you guys answer my call man. No problem. Thanks Mike. Yeah, if you're a trainer, I swear to God, I wish I had this as a trainer. Oh my God, prime and prime, bro. Are you kidding me? The kind of information that you get in Maps Prime

used to be a thousand dollar certification. You'd have to go spend a thousand dollars to get certified. I say it at least once every hundred episodes that if you were a trainer and you don't own prime and you don't own prime pro, don't own prime pro you're an asshole Just flat out like I like that and we have by the way and there's a free go to the free webinar Don't buy it go to the fucking free webinars watch it consume the content the information in there in my opinion if you're coach

Right a trainer. This isn't I mean, I think the general population. It's it's extremely valuable period try a trainer. I think the general population, it's extremely valuable period. But if you were a trainer, when I think of the things that I learned over the two decades training clients, the information in both those programs, trumps, everything else that we have. Yeah, by far. So it's mapsprimewebinar.com, that's one of them. And then the other one is primeprowebinar.com and they're totally free. So go check those out. Our next question is from Brianna from Florida. Hey Brianna, how can we help you? Hey guys, just wanted a real quick say. You guys are awesome. I listen to you guys every morning,

so thank you for putting out a bunch of content. Awesome, thank you. Thank you. So my question is, I mean, there's a backstory to it, but basically, my question is, is it better to lay off heavier weights while focusing on mobility and technique or keep driving home technique while doing my heavy lifts and just continue to prime beforehand because I'm basically powerlifting right now. Yeah, good question. No, that's a good question.

If you want to improve and you want to improve smoothly and seamlessly, then you're going to back off on the weight. And here's why. The second you push intensity, which is what heavyweight does, your body will always revert to its recruitment pattern that it's, you know, been doing for a long time. So let's say, for example, I'm training a client that, for whatever reason, I make up a scenario. They wear high heels all the time. So they walk in high heels all the time. And so they've developed the recruitment pattern

where the body gets really good at walking in high heels. And then I put them in flat shoes, but I tell them to run as fast as they can. What'll end up happening is their body will revert to the high heel recruitment pattern because that's the one that it knows the most. So what happens when you go heavy is you're gonna continue to solidify poor recruitment

patterns. And it's going to be hard or if not impossible to change those recruitment patterns, even if you add a lot of mobility work. So ideally what you would do is you go back off on the weight, back off on the intensity, focus on mobility, focus on skill and technique. Don't push the intensity because it automatically throws your technique back to what you're used to doing Do that for a while until the problems are solved until the new recruitment pattern is solidified then go back to lifting heavy. I 100 I 100% agree

Who's that who's that they got a question? You snap at your mom I They got a question. Sorry. You snap at your mom. No. I 100% agree with Sal. I do believe though, you can still go heavy. You just got to train with like this mindset. So let's say, what happens a lot of times someone's following a program. If they're following a maps program,

they see on the program that this set I'm supposed to do six to eight reps. And you load the bar up with a weight that you think you do that. Now, when it ends up happening, let's say it rep four, it's getting kind of heavy and hard, but you definitely can get six to eight, and you push through and you get your six to eight.

But on reps five and six, you kind of shimmy a little bit, or the form isn't perfect and breaks down. If you're focused on the mobility aspect and correcting and balances and that's where our focus is, I'm stopping the set at four. So, you know, even though I can get, so it still allows you to go kind of heavy and challenge yourself. You're tensed, he's low. But I'm not worried about the rep range that my programming is or what I, I care so much about form that the minute I feel that it's going

to break down, I'm stopping the rep right there. Well, I'm going to add to that in terms of going less reps, but also stopping right before you see that discrepancy. You lean into that and you make it an isometric exercise. And so now I'm like, I'm slowly like really addressing it and honing in on it and trying to actively recruit more muscle fibers to provide support. And so, but again, you'll be able to find that, you know, with less weight and your body's gonna be able

to be trained a lot more efficiently that way to be able to kind of get past that one discrepancy. Yeah, whatever you train, you get stronger at. So you strengthen what you train. And if you train a poor recruitment pattern, then that's what's gonna become strong for you. So in order to change that, you gotta back off

and work with a different and trained and new recruitment pattern. And that takes a little bit of time. But here's the good news. Once you do it, you'll surpass what you did before. If you don't do it, it's gonna be very hard, if not impossible to get out of the place that you're in now.

I also, I'm reading your question now too. I see it up on the screen right now. And you say your hip dips a little bit when you come out of the squat. Yeah, so I usually feel it, like I said in my question, there's, I can only feel it when I go very, very heavy and it's not until after I start feeling like my, just the left side of that erector, spinae, and I can feel it, like if I go in for another set it feels like I pushed something too hard or that there is like a discrepancy there. So I dialed back

for the past like two to three months and my squats feel a lot better but I guess my question was should I continue to maintain strength by you know pushing the heavyweight but not going past that point of where everything starts breaking down. Yeah, no, I would definitely not go past or hit your max at all. You don't want to be dealing with. If you're constantly feeling that shift while you're also trying to correct it, you're just going to be stuck in a loop the whole time.

Do you have Maps Prime Pro? Yeah, that's where I'm going with this. I don't. Okay, we're going to send that to you because the whole time. Do you have Maps Prime Pro? Yeah, that's where I'm going with this. I don't. OK, we're going to send that to you, because that's the program that you should focus on. And I would do mobility movements for hips, ankles, and feet several times a day. Spend about five to 10 minutes, several times,

every single day working on those movements. And then when you work out, drop the intensity. And it's all about technique. Have you ever filmed your feet when you squat? Like, I actually filmed myself quite a lot and I just filmed my squat the other day. I have a slight pronation when I'm up. It's like so slight, but that's what's causing the,

just so you know, that's what's causing the hip shift, too. Yeah, and if you're, that's what's happening is the side that's that's pronating, opening up, you're shifting on the opposite, opposite side. So, and then that's also why you're feeling it on one side of your, your rectors. Yeah, and, and, and because you're strong and you're lifting heavy weight, I see here that you're aiming for a thousand pound total.

Wow. Which is tremendous, right? The slightest discrepancy between right and left, it doesn't make that big of a difference when you're lifting a hundred pounds. You start lifting 200, 300 pounds. Now it makes a big difference. So, I mean, honestly, I could literally put,

if I put a quarter of an inch rise in somebody who's strong and one of their shoes, they will develop some serious problems within a very short period of time. You give that to somebody that's not lifting very heavy, they might not notice for a long time. So, because you're pushing your body, because you're really strong, this is very important.

Yeah, that makes sense. Alright, well thanks for calling in. Alright, thank you guys. No problem. That's pretty damn strong. Yeah, it's really strong. It's pretty impressive. But yeah, you know, this is an example I've used before.

I'll say it again just for the audience if they have never heard this, but let's say you've always only ever typed with your two index fingers, you know, the Hunt and Peck, you know, method of typing, and you've done that for years, you're pretty fast with your two index fingers. If I go and then try to get you to type properly using all of your fingers, you're gonna be slower at the better method at first.

So if somebody came to you and said, type as fast as you can, you would have to revert to your old method because that's your recruitment pattern. That's what you're best at. The new method, there's a learning curve before it surpasses the old method. So it's the same thing with recruitment patterns

with the exercise. It takes a whole lot of reps, too. So you have to be very patient with this new approach. And so that's just something you're, you're gonna have to reconcile with that. It's gonna take a while. Now the positive though is that you're also gonna see benefits though, besides just that, like the speed of it, you're gonna have to reconcile with that. It's gonna take a while. Now, the positive though is that you're also gonna see benefits

though besides just the speed of it, you're also gonna see your body still changing because you're still progressing. Everybody thinks progressing always has to be me putting more weight on the bar. If you're working on mobility, getting a greater range of motion, you have better stability and control,

the body will show results. So you could technically still lean out or add muscle and look better and feel better, and show progression there, even though you may see a dramatic reduction in your squat. A better squat with lighter weight is gonna give you better results than a heavier muscle.

That's not as good. So that's just the bottom line. Look, thanks for listening to the show. If you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com. We have a lot of free stuff that we give away. A lot of free content, free guides on everything from burning body fat to building muscle, sculpting your body.

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