Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1588: The Ideal Split for Building Muscle Mass, Why Training to Failure Can Halt Your Gains, Fitness Gimmicks That Need to Die & More

Episode Date: July 2, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the ideal split for building muscle mass, the pros and cons of lifting to failure in each set, why too much volume is negative for hypertrophy, and fitness gimmicks still around today that need to stop. You learn the TRUTH listening to Mind Pump. (7:12) Adam and Doug’s trip to Utah. (9:14) What is going on in the medical field?! (14:08) Another study on the impact of artificial sweeteners on gut bacteria. (15:46) Mind Pump Recommends, The Dark Horse Podcast with Bret Weinstein. (19:45) Own your audience or be on many platforms. (24:24) Vuori is EXPLODING! (29:00) Political correctness with Mind Pump. (31:46) Fun Facts with Justin: ‘Dragon Man skull’ may be a new species. (36:03) When a harmless DNA test solves a 14-year sexual assault case. (38:31) #Quah question #1 – What's an ideal split for building muscle mass? (40:25) #Quah question #2 – Should we be lifting to failure in each set or should we feel like we can get more reps for each set? How can I tell if I’m lifting the right amount of weight to make progress? (46:38) #Quah question #3 – Can you explain how too much volume is negative for hypertrophy?  (51:27) #Quah question #4 – What are some of the fitness gimmicks still around today that need to stop? (55:22) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS HIIT and the No BS 6-Pack Formula 50% off!  **Promo code “JULYSPECIAL” at checkout** Mind Pump #1580: Economy Crash 2021 With Peter Linneman FDA Approves Aspire Assist | Disgusting Weight Loss … – YouTube Look: New Weight Loss Product Magnetically Locks Your Mouth Shut Artificial Sweeteners Negatively Regulate Pathogenic Characteristics of Two Model Gut Bacteria, E. coli and E. faecalis Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for 15% off your first order** Dark Horse Podcast JRE #1671 - Bret Weinstein & Dr. Pierre Kory Russell Brand | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 116 Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Vuori CEO talks brick-and-mortar plans and sustainability efforts 'Making a mockery': British influencer defends 'identifying as Korean' after undergoing surgery to look like K-pop star Meet 'dragon man,' the latest addition to the human family tree 14 years after a sexual assault in Tampa, a man has been charged with rape because he entered his own DNA into a genealogy database Are Split Routines Effective for Beginner Weightlifters? - Mind Pump Blog Body Part Split vs. Whole Body Workout: Which Is Best? - Mind Pump Blog 3 Tips for Better Muscle Growth – Mind Pump Blog The Breakdown Recovery Trap, Why You Aren’t Progressing – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Bret Weinstein (@bretweinstein)  Twitter  

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we're talking about scientific studies, we have a lot of fun. Today's intro was 38 minutes after that, we got to the fitness questions. So we opened up the episode by talking about conspiracies, more conspiracies. Listen, a ton of them, so. You learned the truth, listening to Mind Pump.

Then we talked about Adam and Doug's, you talked trip, they've been going on a lot of trips alone. I think they're Mormon now. Something's happening. Then we talked about a new diet tool, breakthrough, medical diet tool, that'll make you lose weight. It's something that keeps your mouth closed.

I swear to God, that's what it does. Dude, they finally figured it out. You'll hear more about it in this episode. Then we talked about artificial sweeteners and gut bacteria. It is an in vitriol study, but I don't know Lane Norton. There's more more of these are popping up I'm in for you then I talked about a podcast called dark horse podcast boy Was this a controversial episode the host Brett Weinstein interviewed a doctor talking about Iver Mechden

We didn't do that episode. Don't shut us down everybody Podcast really interesting then just talked about the podcast. Really interesting. Then we talked about Russell Brand. He has another great podcast, Adam talked all about that. We talked about an article highlighting Viori. Viori is an at Leisureware company we've been working with for a long time.

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He identifies as another race. That's a thing. Is that a new thing? I guess then just then brought up the dragon skull that they found It's a new type of human to dragon man Really cool then I talked about how a man turned in his DNA to find out his heritage and Ended up getting caught for raping someone back in the day. No joke, real story. Oopsie, poopsy. Then we got into the questions. The first question is, person wants to know what is an ideal split for building muscle. The next question is, person wants to know if we should be lifting to failure to maximize results.

The third question is, person wants to know why too much volume is negative for building muscle. The fourth question is this person says, what are some of the fitness gimmicks that are still around that need to stop? Also, we are running a promotion. We're in the middle of summer, so two of our best summertime workout programs is what we're putting on sale. Maps hit, that's high intensity interval training, and our no BS 6-pack formula, which is an

AB and core training program, are both 50% off. You can check them out at mapsfitinistproducts.com, just use the code JulySpecial with no space for that discount. If you guys seen the, it's like circulating, it's like a fact about bees. Effect about bees?

Yeah, so male bees, male honey bees, I don't know this, they die right after mating. So the life cycle basically is honey, nut cheerio. Cheerio. Oh, get out of here. Hey! How long have you been holding on to that dead joke? That's so good, right?

That's like another level dead joke right there. That's not bad, dude. Honey, nut and cheerio. How do you guys feel the podcasting with the headphones? Kind of weird. I don't know, dude, I don't know how I feel about right now. I feel free.

Yeah, it's somewhat that, but I'm like, I'm not quite in the zone yet, dude. This might take a few times. Could be that, and also the extreme heat that's in the store. That could be a factor, too. Yeah, legs are so slippery. A little bit of a sweat box in here,

so we'll see. I feel naked. I'm a little grease-up. Yeah. A little leg right now, so it's not here. Did you get your lift this morning? I did, I worked out, but I was at 6.30. No way I'll work out in the afternoon.

Right now it's hot, dude. It's like 90 degrees. I way I'll work out in the afternoon. My house is hot, dude. It's like 90 degrees. I don't know what you're gonna do. What are you gonna do? Well, I did it, I mean, it was hot. I just ended up, you know, shirtless by the... You did half the way through. In front of the wives?

No, I wait until they laugh, don't worry. I don't wanna... Put too much out there. I had to hear from Katrina. I heard you were prancing around with no shirt on. Yesterday. No, I was in prancing around. You could on yesterday. No, he was a prance around. No, he picked me up.

Yeah, he picked me up. Just this looking good, right? No, I was up in my boys room because it was like belazing hot. It was an inferno in there. I'm like, this can't happen. It was a roll of shirtless. And they walked out of them. Yeah, then they were there.

It's a... Adam, you better come home. She caught me. She caught me. On a whole lot of clasped it. Yes. Right now. I want to cause issues. How about you? You haven't got one. Obviously you got home late. Yeah. No, I don't get home till after midnight. Do by the way to Salt Lake City, Utah, that airport. Yeah. Worst airport I've flown. Really? Yeah. Worst. Why? Well, it's okay. I shouldn't say it because I know people. I think

people say JFK is like one of the worst I for Dallas airports really rough But I phone that Dallas midway used to be really bad. You said I never like that. I have him phone out of every airport anything But this is the worst one I've ever flown out of and it's the layout of it Like did you just did you get my text where I said it was how long it was gonna be till I left He was so check this out last night, we're leaving. We both are leaving Utah. Doug's going home to San Jose and I'm coming out here to Reno.

And he was A22, A only goes to 25. So he's A22 and I'm B5. So we're like walking together, oh cool, we'll just hang out till then. But because we've already flown in and out of here already, I'm like, you know what, I better double check to make sure that even though you're your seems like you should only be about seven away from me, which sounds like maybe 50 yards, you know?

No, this thing is like literally, it took me 15 minute walk to get from where he was at, straight 15 minutes. And it's the only airport where I've seen this too, where up above, it tells you like seven minutes to hear, 10 minutes to hear. Yeah, because it's- And it's that big. Yeah, it's the only airport where I've seen this too, where up above it tells you like seven minutes to here, 10 minutes to here. Yeah, because it's... And it's that big.

Yeah, it's spread out. I might want to go from a walk to a sprint. Yeah, and also it's actually, and it's a connecting airport. So there's a lot of people that are going north or south from there that are coming from east to west, it's a hub. So you get people that get like, like me, one of my flights was delayed

and like half the planes like stressing out because they know they're landing in Utah and they know that if they have J and they're coming into A, it's gonna take them 30, 45 minutes to get to their side. I hate that one. I hate that one.

Oh, I hate that one. When airport, it takes you like, an hour to get to your rental car. I hate that. You have to take a train here, train there. So there were no of those you know those They're not escalators, but they're like kind of Accelerate your walk

Yeah, you are run through this their bags down. This is a take a break. Yeah, and that's for speed, bro Yeah, that's the turbo lane exactly I ended up skipping all those because I could power walk faster than I could weave through all the people that are doing that So it's like well that sucks So we were playing Mario Kart and have those I could power walk faster than I could weave through all the people that are doing that. So it's like, well, that sucks. So. I think we were playing Mario Kart and you have those. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah. What's the airport that's got all the controversy around it?

Like the conspiracy. It's in Denver. Yeah. What? It's in Denver. All the murals and all the stuff. The conspiracy theorists, like, is there haven? Because they think that there's some underground.

Yes. Like some, like secret base or something underneath it, as far as I know. It's actually kind of like, guys could take an airport story and transition into conspiracy theories blows right now. Because they got the all-seeing eye and it's like, there's weird stuff.

You're all- The season name of this podcast really is here. No. I know, we're becoming the hudster. It took us like seven years to find out that Justin and I had this- I didn't know that. Yeah, seriously, like I went I went like when I was in college

I got really and sucked into the whole conspiracy theory stuff just because I don't know why what somebody had told me something about like Fiat currency. I think it was the first thing and I'm like what? Yeah, that's just that's just like the the introduction You know and then you start going but then you you have to really check yourself and be like, well, okay, like is this feasible at all? You got to really like throw away a lot of it and just look at it as pure entertainment. Speaking of which, do you guys see, is it McAfee? That's saying his name right?

McAfee's girlfriend? Got interviewed? Did you see that? No. No. She's like, I talked to him the day of, I think it was like the morning that he supposedly committed suicide. He was, he was good, everything was solid.

We had a plan because we were getting extra-dited. We knew what our strategy was gonna be. She's like, he didn't kill himself. There's no way that he killed himself. That's so crazy. Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude, come on, bro. That and Epstein get the fuck out of here.

How do you reckon? I reckon that it's how those two very blatantly obvious ones. Come on bro that and Epstein get the Records out those two very blatantly obvious ones come on dude I don't understand why it's not like like them biggest thing on news that we're talking about where everybody is trying to control on news, bro They want you to believe Every time yeah, you try to explain how things really are it's like you sound like a whack-a-doodle Yeah, as soon as a mac if he kills himself or gets suicide it like oh Release the Delta variant Everybody gets scared about that real quick. Oh man. Hey Doug is your mic turn on over there today. Yes, it is

Hey, what did you what do you think of Park City Utah? I liked it a lot. Did you like it? Yeah? We didn't spend much time in there, but I enjoyed where we were right like a ski town Yeah, it's really it's the first time I spend much time in there, but I enjoyed where we were at. Is that like a ski town? Yeah, it's really, it's the first time I've ever been in there. I've been to Salt Lake City before, but I never drove up to, which is only, it was what, a half hour or so from the 40 minutes from the city.

So it's not that far of a drive. And then I mean, I would relate to like Bay Area people going up to Tahoe, right? Sure. It's kind of like that, right? So, but it's even closer for them, and it's even like more epic with like ski resort. Now, how frustrating is it So, but it's even closer for them, and it's even more epic with ski resort. Now, how frustrating is it,

because I always get frustrated with this, when I go other places in the US, and they're nice and clean, and then you see these gorgeous houses, and then I make the mistake of asking, like how much? Yeah. How much is that incredibly,

like a 5,000 square foot mansion over there? It's like 20 punches, right? Yeah, and they're like, oh, you know, it's $400,000, $500,000 for my dad. Yeah, I was like, dude. I was actually really, so I was really surprised, though, by how expensive it was to be anywhere near the park city area, though.

Like, I mean, it rivals the Tahoe numbers. I was like, really? Yeah, I did not, I wouldn't, like you're, like you're talking about properties that are close to some of these ski resorts that are the price of what properties on the lake are. Yeah, you're getting up for a little mind shaft thing was like five million, right to four, five million

for some of those little ones. Yeah, crazy prices. Yeah, and then I mean, get up to 10. Now, what about the surrounding towns and stuff? Is it like you would find, like, you know, we go to San Jose, we go. Yeah, so now as you get further out from, you know, know either Park City or so there's like the midway of and I don't remember all the town's names really well But if they're midway from Salt Lake City to Park City

There's like some suburbs in between and then there you can get still and you can get some pretty like a You know, you know, it's a 1.3 1.5 over here here, you know, gets us like hardly anything right at track home, right? It gets you a custom 5,000 square foot three car garage and they you know think about there all their stuff, too What I love is because almost everybody there has an RV or a boat or something like all their garages are like the 20-foot ceiling ones where you can drive an RV or a boat with a tower in it. They had this one spot that she took us over to that was, dude, it's probably, I want to say, 50 houses or so.

I'll get the name over the next time we talk, but in this gated community, and it was literally a wakeboard community. So everybody had a wakeboard boat, and the lake in the middle of these 50 houses, was this, you know, it was man-made like, a little- Like a finger-like, like just went straight. Just totally made for wakeboarding to pass down and back. And everybody had their own dock that had its full roof and boats elevated out of the water, sitting right outside their house house and these were all like

6,000 square foot house. Wow. Yeah, I feel like I read an article. I was trying to find it right now I can't find it. I feel like there was a house in Palo Alto that just sold the 501 no it was like tens of million dollars tens of millions of dollars over asking. Oh, you guys hear about this? This was a Mark Mastroffs place. No, it was, I mean, it's a nice house, but it was over asking, like tens of millions of dollars. I was trying to find the article to share about that, but yeah, that's crazy. That's just insane.

You imagine you put your house up for sale for $15 million and someone's like, I'll take it for 25. Yeah, it's okay. You know, though, I've been talking to a lot of people since our Peter Letterman episode about the whole, because I kind of when I first heard him talk about what is he called Unintended savings or something I forget what the term he used. Oh, right, but basically the the consequences of COVID and being basically locked up especially people are traveling

So saving money. There's a lot of people and since then because I was he after he's talked about it I've been like asking more people and and I been sharing that episode. And they're like, yeah, no, that was my husband and I. We canceled our Paris trip this year. We had Disneyland plan with the kids and you started doing the math on that 20, 30, 40 grand. Yeah. Yeah. That you're doing. You get some payment on something, right? And then maybe even more so if you're so that same person too, or a couple probably goes the day dinners out a couple times a month, you know, so.

See, I spent more money. Did you guys spend more or less money? I spent more on junk food. I was ordering my order to laugh at Amazon, but I don't think that. And I think I actually saved money, though, overall, because our thing is going places and doing things, so we really cut that out.

I'm with you, I saved for sure. It definitely. More than you would have. more than I would have. Because I like Justin, I I tend to that's like one of our favorite things to do. Katrina and I is to go some random place, stay at a hotel, find a really nice restaurant to eat at. Like that's like an awesome weekend to me. Like it's a three day weekend where we do something like that. But then also that can deem you for real quick three, five grand, you know, those add up racks up's a bit crazy.

Yeah, so I didn't do that really in COVID. Dude, speaking of junk food and food, did you guys see this new approved? I'm gonna pull it up right now because it's unbelievable. It's one of those things. Okay, do you guys remember, it was like two years ago and there was a medical device that was FDA approved? Oh, just suck out after.

Yeah, you guys remember that right? It's a spire assist. Yeah, it was literally a tube attached to your stomach and then when you eat medical intervention, it wasn't fire assist. Yeah, it's basically, exactly, medical bulimia. You basically puke it out. Right.

Oh, this is great breakthrough. There's a new one. You ready for this? Okay, what do we got now? Okay. A weight loss tool that uses magnets to stop people from opening their mouths. Oh, I saw it.

I saw it. I saw it enough. I saw a lane post about that. Yes. Why do enough to eat solid food has been developed by scientists in order to tackle obesity? Was this invented by Dr. Evil? Eh, magnets.

Like, okay, use magnets. Are these the dumbest scientists of all time? Like, you invented something to keep someone from opening their mouth. We're a genius. I saw some people. I saw some people trying to defend it though with Lane and say that. It's for a very small percentage of the population

that have some conditions specifically that they can't control and so therefore they're just see things. I mean no matter how you end Lane, we said the same thing that I'm sure you guys would say is just it doesn't matter. It's called Pac-Man Syndrome. Yeah, have you seen the picture of it? No.

It's literally, look at that. It's so they attach one end to the top, to the other, and then it's like very powerful magnets. So you can barely open your mouth. So you can only basically drink your calories. This sounds awful, dude. And that's a diet strategy that is medical. This is what we're dealing with.

This is crazy. It was that dude for any of the behaviors. This isn't saying. Hey, speaking of that and Lane, I saw you tagged in one of the artificial sweetener thing. I didn't read the article. It's so weird. So this was done in vitro and I know that ticks them off because it's not a human study. But it's another study showing that, and there's been a few in vitro studies showing that artificial

sweeteners, sucralose, aspartame, they actually turn normal gut bacteria into, they become more inflammatory and can start to attack, theoretically attack the gut wall, so cause problems. Now, there's been several in vitro studies that show that there's some issues with how these artificial swingers affect gut bacteria. There haven't been any human studies to show this. That's as big.

Right. I mean, you guys know our stance obviously is, I've never had a client lose weight by switching to artificial sweeteners, except for those that track everything. They're competitors. I see tremendous. Never seen an average person. But even then, it's only when they're competing, you know, versus when they go off track, and they're not as dying. Well, I remember talking to we brought this up, I don't know, maybe a year or

two ago when I cut out the diet soda. So one of the things that I noticed was that's when I would keep allowing it back in. And because I know it's zero calories, I go from, you know, one every few days to one every day. It feels like there's no consequence. Yeah, exactly. Because I know there's no consequences for putting on body fat. I would justify allowing them more and more. And you do, you crave them more. The more, I drink them, the more I crave them, I crave them to come back.

Simply by switching over to a brand like Hanson's or Drinking the Oli Pops and said that have 35 to 100 something calories, just them just knowing that. Like isn't enough for me to go like, oh, keep it at bay, like I'll just have one, I'm good because I don't want all the extra calories from children. It's a natural barrier, it allows you to create better behaviors.

And again, in the studies show this, when people aren't controlled, in other words, all their calories aren't controlled, they're just allowed to live normally, which is regular life. And people switch out their regular sodas for diet, so does they don't lose weight? Because they eat more food.

It's just, it's who you're talking to. I think Lane attracts mostly competitor like people like you. Yeah, dude, if you're using his app, and you're tracking your food and you're somebody who's like that, then artificial sweetener's here and there to replace from sugar syrup on your protein pancakes or adding it into your coffee here and there.

I don't see that as a problem, as much as I see using it as a weight loss strategy for somebody who's a hundred pounds overweight, has a terrible relationship with food, and then the answer is, oh, let's stop eating drinking these sodas and move you just to diet sodas. It's like, you're just putting it that way.

Yeah, you just see, like, cause an effect after that. I always tend to see more calories sneaking their way back in. Because it's just part of that whole calories. You have yet to find a study that's not controlled, that shows weight loss. Yeah. Don't.

Only the ones where they're totally controlled on what they eat show weight loss. Otherwise, it just people just don't lose weight using them. They haven't solved anything. When they were first invented, you know, they were, they were lauded as like the solution. Oh my gosh.

Here's the solution. Now you can have something to taste sweet with no calories. This will solve everybody's problems. It didn't solve anything. Do you guys remember? They underestimated human beings. We shared the old articles on the sugar

as they were there advertising sugar as a fat loss. Oh, I remember that. I did. Oh, that was really old, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All advertising that sugar is sugar to help lose body fat. You cannot believe them ever. Do you guys remember the fat substitute,

Olesstra, do you guys remember that? Oh yeah, I remember actually getting diarrhea from that as a kid. That came out when we were in high school. Yeah. And it was in Lays chips. Yes. And they had to pull it.

They pulled it like after a year. And I remember I was a number one guy. Yes. Oh, somebody was telling me about that the other day. I think it was my sister. Oh yeah, like, where am I going to pull those chips off the market. I remember you know I was back in high school crushin chips like that And I remember when those came out. I remember thinking this is before the news came out. I was getting the shit Look damn I'm losing weight

Working because it goes through your body. Yeah, I'm sick of pads every 20 minutes Like it goes right through your body. It's like, okay, it's here and there, but disgusting. Anyway, dude, I listened to a very controversial podcast, the other day that Doug recommended to us about two weeks ago. It was, what's his name, Doug? It's a dark horse podcast? Dark horse, yes. And it's Brett Weinstein. Oh, it's Brett Weinstein.

And he interviews a doctor and a researcher on who's on the front lines of COVID treatments. And he talks about all of these clinical trials and there's a lot of them. And I looked them up after I listened to the podcast. I listened to it. I'm like, let me see if these exist. There's a ton on a drug called Ivermectin. You guys familiar with? No, I've heard the name, but I'm not. Yeah, I listened to part of that podcast. He also was able to go on Joe Rogan's podcast and get the same conversation because they've already shut down

a lot of these episodes that he did. Weird, okay, so I've remected it. I saw Rob Wolf just tweeted. Somebody, I think it was Weinstein just got pulled off of like his social media. This is, it's so strange to me because there's lots of these trials that have happened. There's lots of this, there's a lot of evidence.

They don't have the double blind placebo-controlled gold standard type trials yet, but there are lots of clinical trials. And it's an old drug, it's been around for 40 years, I think, it's an anti-paracidic drug, but in these trials, and other countries are using them. Places in Brazil are using them, Africa is using them. Places where they can't get their hands on vaccines quick enough

There were some areas in India. I think that we're using Evermechden and the results apparently are remarkable There was one in particular where there were there were frontline workers This is according to the podcast. Okay. There were frontline workers and they gave half of them a I think once or twice A week dose of Evermechden and then the rest they gave them nothing and then, I think once or twice a week dose of Ivermectin, and then the rest, they gave them nothing, and then they let them treat people with COVID to see what would happen. The people who were taking the Ivermectin, zero of them got COVID.

The other side, the other group, almost 50%. How big was the control group? This was, there were hundreds of doctors in this. And there were hundreds. Yeah, okay. I was wondering if five is like, well, that could be random. Yeah, you're right. No, there's a lot.

There's actually quite a bit. It's really fascinating. And then the reason why they think it's not being promoted because in other places it is in other countries is because, and now this is where the conspiracy part comes out, is because in order for, again, this is on the podcast, in order for any drug to be approved for emergency use authorization, which is how the vaccine

has got the public got to use them, because they're not FDA approved, right? They got that designation first, which essentially is pushing something forward because there's no other viable treatment. So it's an emergency. I know we don't have enough research, but go and push it forward because there's no, so in other words, if another viable treatment was shown, for example, Evermech, and they would not have been able to release the vaccines through law by emergency use authorization. So they think the reason why they shut it down is so that they kiss you. Otherwise, if they show, if they show, this is a viable treatment, that's that they kiss you. They get the vaccine. Otherwise, if they show, they make their money off of it. If they show, this is a viable treatment.

That's according to the podcast. I thought that was really interesting and very, very fast. Well, what is this, Doug, what's the stuff you got me taking right now? Doug gave me some stuff after listening to all that stuff. I just said on the show. Oh, you can't say it.

Oh, I can. Doug's got me taking some droppers. It's got so much controversy around it. It's chlorine dioxide. Oh, yeah. There's a ton of controversy around it yeah, there's a ton of You know Controversy around it and there's a lot of people that's the thing that I believe people are saying well Trump was saying drink bleach But it's not bleach and there's actually a lot of

You know supporting information regarding that as well. It is a very microscopic dose that people are using It drops the tiny drop and I mix it in a 16 ounce water But I'm sure we'll hear something about that after this I just want to be real the audience like hey, I'm crazy enough to try it I'm always good for that. Yeah, so I'm using these as trooper. I tell you what you take everything I give you I trust you guys you ask after I mean you guys trust me with a lot of things in the business that are a big freakin deal And I you know I'm saying true. Yeah, you guys trust me with a lot of things in the business that are a big freaking deal. And I, you know what I'm saying? It's true. Yeah. So I trust you in my life.

That's true. So as I feel like you guys do with me, I know. Yeah. Sometimes I feel like that's kind of like the nature. Hey, do you remember that scene? Rensville Pumping Iron. Remember that scene in Pumping Iron

when they're interviewing Franco and Arnold? And they're asking for... He's telling him he's given him bad advice. Yeah, yeah. He's interviewing Arnold and he goes, oh, Franco's really good. He might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, he Arnold and I go, and he goes, oh, if Bronco's really good, he might, he says, yes, he's very good, but you know, he takes my advice and it's not hard for me to give him

the wrong advice. I give him the wrong advice. I'll call him the day before and I'll tell him the wrong advice. It's such a great thing. I love that. No, but that podcast was very interesting and it's weird how controversial it is.

I have shutting it down. I have one that you guys will like that I just, I just, I shared it with you to listen to, and I don't know how it would popped up, and I actually don't listen to Ben Shapiro show. Oh, is this the one you were telling me? Yeah, but Ben Shapiro and Russell Brand, and normally I don't like some of Russell Brand's stuff,

and so I don't really follow him much. Sometimes he uses 100 words when five words is a month. He does, he does, he definitely, like, so much. So much. So much. So himself is being very poetic and just a little... It is, so he likes to weave around, he's a lot more.

It is, I mean, in his defense, I mean, I actually really enjoyed the episode. I really enjoyed it mostly because of him. I enjoyed the conversation that they had and Shapiro could be a prick and kind of challenging. And so it was really neat to watch Russell navigate through that and he does so very eloquently and And I'm sure he's the type of person where you either like him or you or you don't and I I typically don't really like some of his stuff But it actually now made me more interested in some of his content and what he's doing. He's got I do know like a very story like what he's happened with that? I don't know a whole bunch, but from what I do know is he was a drug addict,

a sex addict, and he been through spiritual practice was able to help himself. Right, the 12 steps. Okay. It's really the 12 steps, and he talks about that in there, like because I get into like kind of spirituality talk. Okay.

And he kind of, then Shapiro's kind of trying to challenge him and pigeonhole him into giving him like, well, what is your ideology or, you know, what God do you follow or what is it like? And he's breaking down how he thinks that the 12-step program is like universal and applies to everybody. And like, that's kind of where he gets his spirituality from and it goes through each step. And it was interesting.

It was really interesting. I didn't think I would thought it was, it sucked me right in and then I listened to the whole thing. And you know what I didn't know that Shapiro does which is a bit annoying as a consumer. Because again, I don't think I've ever listened to a full episode. By the way, have you ever heard him? Did you ever watch the video of him singing WAP? Remember WAP? No. Does the most cringe-worthy thing you got?

Yeah, wet, A word, P word. Like you can't say a bad word in the whole thing. Anyway, it's the most ridiculous thing. And I don't know why he looks like he's talking. That was classic. I know he's not 12. He does it, louder with Crowder does it. Some of these other guys do this where he did a whole hour. I want to say an hour and a half or so conversation with him and then he cuts it and then you

have to subscribe to the daily wire to get the rest of it. That's a new, that's a noxious. That's like a strategy that you're seeing a lot of. Well, you're at your seat, I wonder how well that does, because I've seen that use that all. I don't know. I'm a cliffhanger, right? Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

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okay, we wanna now charge people to use. I know a guy who, I mean, just speaking of the social media, and this is something that you need to know if you're gonna build a business, because social media is a great, it's a new way to build business, it's a great way to reach people, and there's lots of opportunity, tremendous opportunity.

The barriers to enter the market are really low, It's a new way to build business, it's a great way to reach people and there's lots of opportunity, tremendous opportunity. The barriers to enter the market are really low, the opportunity to reach lots of people that are going to be interested in your specific product or service. So it's tremendous. However, there's one major flaw and that's that you are beholden to their algorithm and if they decide to shut you down for whatever reason. I know somebody who was literally generating like six figures a month in revenue,

Facebook changed the algorithm, and it went from six figures a month to three figures a month. That's how big of a swing it may be. Simply because they changed the algorithm overnight, and then you got a hustle to figure out how to fix that. I also know other people that on Instagram build their whole business and then one thing goes wrong, either it gets hacked or they get shadow banned for a second,

business is gone. So the name of the game is, in my opinion, own your audience or be on lots of platforms, although even being on lots of platforms might not protect you. I really think that's old wisdom too, it's not new to diversify. That's all you're really doing is like.

You don't call your eggs in one basket. So you're just, I mean, just because YouTube or Instagram or say whatever platform you got famous on is generating 90% of your revenue doesn't mean you should ignore all the other potential ways for you to capture not even business. Speaking of business, Viori, right? So Viori, I've been reading articles on Viori

because they are, so for people who don't know, Viori's a? So Viori, I've been reading articles on Viori because they are, so for people don't know, Vior is a company we work with, they make great athletes, you're where exploding. Since we started working with them till now, I mean, how much of they grow? Oh, they're in a rocket, how much of they grow? 10X more. Oh, yeah, they're, I mean, they weren't, I know they weren't house. I know they weren't even in the 100 million club as a business, and then I know they're in the hundreds of millions now.

Yeah, they're crushing. They're absolutely crushing. I love what they did too. They were a direct consumer model first built huge audience around their lifetime guarantee on their clothes because it's so legit. And then they built a solid base. And then after that, then they started to go into brick and mortar and they go now we get into retail. Santana Rose, the Hamptons. I forgot that. Joe about that too, if he's gotten better deals now, after I'm sure it's coming. You know, to go back into retail, like how smart.

Oh, they grew during the whole pandemic. That's why it's so amazing is what a time to double down, right? When everybody's getting scared and losing real estate and they're also going like, oh, we don't need to come in office anymore to be the company. And they're smart, dude. They have a very small footprint,

so it doesn't take very much for them to do it. They've already built such a huge loyal base online. Like, I love that company. Yeah, so he actually mentioned us in an article. He got interviewed. Oh, really? Yeah, he did because he's, Viori was really smart with podcasts early on.

Obviously, right? We've been working with them for a while. We were the first to work with them. Right, and a lot of companies still don't realize this. Podcasts have a very high conversion rate. It is still untapped. It's an excellent place to advertise in terms of creating a 40.

Depends on the podcast, of course, and getting exposure and all that stuff. So anyway, he got asked, can you speak more of the direct mail podcast and TV efforts you're working on? And he says, I don't have any many specifics, but I can tell you that with podcasts, we're doing a lot of testing, learning and investing. We found a lot of success with podcasts like Smart Less, which is great for us.

And then we've continued to work with some of our tried and true podcast partnerships, like Mind Pump. So I actually mentioned this. It's cool. And this article is... What article is that? This was, it's Intelliger, excuse me, EMarketer. EMarketer.com, so they talk about it. Yeah, because when we were talking with him,

I remember we were talking about, like, oh, have you been on a bunch of interviews and all this, and it was like less podcasts, interviews more like, you know, ink, you know, fortune 500, entrepreneur, four arms, and all, just done, they've done all. Yeah, they're just, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, you're on another level.

Well, for men's athletes are aware, so when we did the grand opening and there were people coming in, they're like, yeah, there's no competition for men's athletes are aware, for sure. The women's stuff's also, for their women's lines coming up, too. It's really competing with Lou Lemon. Yeah, so all right, so you guys might hear something hilarious. Yeah. So

there's a British born influencer. So this is an English person making controversy right now. This is a news week. How old? So his name is Ollie London. Okay. And they are transracial. So this English wait. Hold up. Because it's the whole identify as something that I'm, you know, a different race. Yes. So this person... Can we do that? Is that okay?

I mean, didn't that one lady get hammered for that? Who was... Yeah, I don't... So, I mean, I guess, right? Because you can identify all kinds of different things. So, I mean, if that's how you feel... feel I don't know okay, so what's happening? Okay, so British born white influencer Ollie London has doubled down on their assertion that they're transracial after declaring they now identify as Korean Wow, so London who identifies as damn ad popped up here. Okay, who identifies as a British white guy claiming that he's Korean

Interesting identifies as Korean. Identifies as non-binary has faced backlash on social media over the past several days. I don't know why that just turned on. Hold on one second. You're poor and hope just popped up. Yeah, that's not what happened. That's not what happened.

That's not what happened. Oh my God. That's not what happened. Here for more. It was a commercial. After saying on YouTube, they had transitioned races and cultures after surgery to resemble their K-pop idol. So they essentially did surgery to make them look good. I'm sure they got the person. Oh, okay. Yeah. So here, I'll

show you the picture. I'll send this to this. This will pop up in the video. I'm going to send this to Andrew R. Like I added suspense. That's that's that's the video. I'm gonna send this to Andrew R. Like I edit that stuff by the sea. That's the, that's their general in Korea. I can't imagine this going well. Yeah. So how does somebody, is he born? Where's he lived? He's English.

Why do? Yeah, so what I mean, so is he living England and he doesn't live in Korea? So how did he find out that he identifies in the author? I think he's the pop star he's like Korean food. He's like, I really like this. I must be Korean. Yeah. Wow. I think the pop star. Yeah like Korean food. He's like I really like this. I must be Korean. Yeah. Wow. This is what I feel. I have no idea. I have no idea. I mean, I love

Korean barbecue. So do I. It's delicious. I think these K-pop fans are like very rabid, you know, rabid. I don't even know what that is Korean pop oh Justin's heavy into that yeah Brianna's really is that a gangnam style type stuff no, it's different. I mean I Haven't really listened to those I know you just be listening to stuff all the time when I can't I can't tell you all the details I think it's more like you know know, boys to men type stuff. Oh, I'm not sure. Really?

Yeah. If it's anything like that horse riding exercise equipment that they have, you see that? That's what I thought gave them. Style type stuff. Yeah, I don't think. Again, not an expert. All right.

I'm, I, some great fitness equipment in Korea. Don't worry, we always get the M's. We get, what you were telling me about a deal with the dude. I gotta something great. Finis and Finn and Finn and Korean. Don't worry, we always get the M's. We get what you were telling me about a deal with dude. I gotta tell you. So we got a, there's a new word, a phrase that apparently we can't use anymore. So we did a podcast and you got Matt, you were joking with us or something.

We did something and you're like, ah, you cock suckers. Okay. Somebody sent a message to me and said that that is a homophobic slur. So you can't say. Cocksockers? Yeah. Although, I mean, women do it too.

I mean, you're just calling your friend that. That's so good. I don't know. Oh, the cocksockers homophobic. Can't say that now. Really? You gotta say something else. So I think it's something else.

No way. Remember that whole bit on the ice flexing of the skin? Yeah, there's an SNL skit. It was like all like cork soaking. And so the whole joke, the ice, like, in an ice. Yeah, there's an SNL skit. It was like all like, cork soaking. And so the whole joke, right, is the cork soakers, right? Yeah, sounds like cock-suckers. And they're all just like, sorkin' cooks. They're like, so, so-k-sorks.

That's a total area. Yeah, never fails. My favorite though is that when you were talking about the homeless guy outside the studio, he was gonna use the bum. Yeah, do you know how they can say that, bro? Yeah, I was like, I can't say that, bro. Yeah, that's bum. I don't wash my window.

I had no time in the day to like go back through my lexicon and go like, what is the not appropriate of this? I don't know, I can say, because it's just, it's too tough, man. I'd rather just ask for forgiveness. Let it fly and just figure it out. You know what I mean.

You know exactly what I mean. Oh, so I got something for you guys yet. So you probably, I don't know, you might even know this already, Salvo. There's like this, why would you know exactly what I mean. Oh, so I got something for you guys yet. So you probably I don't know You might even know this already, so there's like this. Why would you know, but not me because it's it's science related Oh, sorry What the fuck is that mean guy? I'm just I'm just rolling You you you you you cut sucker Sorry dog Yeah Doug We're politically proud. Yeah, we're gonna piss them off

Dragon man dragon man. It's a school. They found it. Yeah, and Asia see I knew you would know this It's huge. It's this huge skull. I don't know how many hundreds of years it's been around for a while that they found it But it like it totally puts a wrinkle into the whole evolution of Of human beings alongside Homo sapiens. They think it belongs to another species of human called the dynosovians. Dynosovians.

Dynosovians. So there were nests that Super Accurate Carbon Dating could help us out with this. I don't know how we could have made that mistake. I could just, whoa, shook up everything right there, huh? I love how you know, like when the artist goes back and has to draw like what they look like, you have no fuck idea.

And then the same thing with dinosaurs, they just put feathers on them all the sudden, you know, let's try this out. Yeah, let's put some glitter on there. Who knows? So the skin colors and so on there. There's like green ones purple ones. Apparently, so we had Nyanra Thal,

which is pretty established. So Nyanra Thal's, then we had Neanderthal, which is pretty established. So Neanderthals, then we had Homo sapiens, which is us. Right. And then we had Dinosovians. And there were some others. Now, at some point, the Homo sapiens, basically mated with and killed everybody else. So we definitely banged and dominated. Yeah, we did because we have Neanderthal, DNA in us. We can then we eradicated the DNA, Neanderthals. Yeah. So we, we, weanderthals. Yeah, so we slept with them, but then we must have killed them all.

And then we just called it a Uber and we got them out there. Yeah, did the Soviets are gone, so it's just homo-sap. So there's all these, now here's my question, it's to your defense atom. It's a different looking skull, right? So like this can't be a homo-sapian. What if it was a regular dude, that was just fucked up. I know, because only found one.

Yeah, it's like the creative soul's capy-sheet around one guy. I've seen people today that I look at them. I know, because only found one. Yeah. It's like the creators whole species around one guy. I've seen people today that I look at them and I go, you're like, that's an interesting looking guy. Yeah, if he died and we found a skull, we'd be like, that's a different species. Eating the skull had like the square eye socket. Like it was in like huge furl brows and it looked pretty gnarly.

It's like, and how do you know that wasn't an ape, more of an ape than it was human? I don't know. I don't know. Dinosovians, look at it. Dinosovians. I don't know any of that. Yeah, that's because of fun time.

Speaking of DNA, one more thing, it's kind of cool. So, you know, those, these private services that you can do a DNA test and they'll tell you like, oh, you're, this percent from this, you know, part of the chart. Which you found out they sold a lot of that data off and got in trouble for that. Oh, well, this is huge.

You trace back into that. This is really interesting, right? So lots of people do this, right? You put your DNA in, you say, oh, you're related to this person, or this is going on, or whatever. Kind of fascinating. Well, anyway, this guy uploaded, or put it as DNA

into this price. Is this the mailman guy? I don't know. Okay, keep going. So he did this and gets arrested because he raped someone years ago and the DNA matched the DNA at the crime scene. So this guy put in his DNA for one of his private services, gets arrested for the rape of somebody. Wait a second, the private service.

Science! How the log get that? That's a good question, I don't know. But he got arrested over it. So they're like, oh, thank you for your DNA. We caught you. Which the log get that. That's a good question, I don't know. But you got to rest it over it. So they're like, oh, thank you for your DNA. We caught you. Which is kind of crazy. Crazy, right?

Yeah, yeah. That's good. I mean, it's good because of who it got, but then there's also, that doesn't make you do a little nervous. You do this tape, like we've done those like, at home blood test things, that you send that stuff away.

And then now the, the car DNA was in the hotel. Yeah, I was there once. Yeah. That's a little trippy. I've left DNA all over. I left DNA all over. Yeah, who knows?

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Our first question is from Alberto Gonzales VIII. What's an ideal split for building muscle mass? The ideal split. Of course there's always an individual variance, right? The one you're not doing. So workouts that are... I'm going to give some general answers, but of course there could be differences depending on the individual that I'm talking to.

But generally speaking, this is true, generally speaking. And if you ask strength coaches and people who train people to build muscle, a majority of them are going to tell you that a full body three day split is probably the most effective for most people. I would say seven out of eight people, at seven to say seven to eight people, so 70 to 80% of people do better. We'll build more muscle, more strength, get better results, just training full body, you know, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, for most people. Other people probably do well with an upper, lower split or even a push pull,

legs type of split, but I still like a two or three days a week of frequency per body part. I think you have to talk about why we are so pro-full body, though, because yes, the research in most coaches would all say that in a degree, but that's just that. I, for me personally, I'm gonna go to the pragmatism round. Yeah, yeah, I just think that there is, one of the things that I,

and it took me a long time to piece that together and figure this out, it wasn't something that was an early trend. I train my clients on splits just like I train myself for most of my career. It wasn't until way later when the light bulb went off for me. And what you find is that very few people, unless you're a, excuse me, a very competitive athlete

where you're being super consistent or you're getting ready to get on stage, most people are going waves. They're consistent for a while, then they're inconsistent, or they do really good one week, and then one week the only of the gym wants are twice. And that type of behavior, which is most people that I've entrained my entire career, they are the majority by a lot landslide by 80 plus percent. Those people do so well with a full body because they still get, they touch everything.

At least if you only trained twice last week and you did full body not a big deal but you know where you're screwed you did a split and you only hit back in chest yeah and that's all you hit and then now you and then you have that same dilemma that everybody has is oh I'm starting back up again should I start back over or where I left off and they're constantly playing that game or the other thing you see is everybody skips the things that they need to work on or the things that are challenging or that are hard. They're hard. They're hard. They're the hardest. Yeah, it's easy to avoid things you don't like to do quite as much, whereas the full body workouts, you basically have to get through the whole entire thing.

And I like that it's more functional. So from a perspective of adding in multiple groups that you're working on for that workout, it resembles more of what's going on in terms of everyday life, in terms of movement and sports-specific type movement. And I know there's some emphasis there where I could really spend some time on getting hypertrophy in certain muscle groups that you're really setting yourself after, but like working the

total body has just as much effect as. Yeah, so to add to that, let's say you want to do heavy, trap bar, farmer walks, which are tremendous for building overall muscle and strength. Where do you put that in a split? Right, where do you put that? But if you're doing full body, it works just great. You want to drive the sled. You want to do a circus press.

You want to do some snatches or some cleans. Where do you put that on a split, right? But if you're doing full body, it works just perfectly. Here's some other stuff, too. When you work out, you send a muscle building signal that's pretty specific to the group that you just train. So in other words, if I do squats, most of the signal goes to my legs to build.

But there's this kind of systemic signal that happens. And when you train your whole body, that systemic signal is much louder. You get a louder overall anabolic signal than you would if you trained half your body or a portion of your body. So this is also why it just tends to build more muscle in a lot of people.

Also, I mean, you tend to do the most effective exercises. If I'm doing legs on just one day, I'll probably end up throwing in leg extensions, leg curls, and all those things. And by the way, why are I like talking about all these things? These aren't the things that come up when you talk about the research studies. They've already done this

where they've compared average people, and it's superior. So for most people, so just based off of what the results are, but there's other things that you have to factor in, and you know that if you've coached clients for a long time, if you've coached clients, there's so many other factors that play into someone being successful, other than the routine, the split that they picked,

or the workout program that they're following. Yes, yes. And a lot of that has to do with consistency and normal behaviors, and I just think that when you do that, and by the way, does that mean I train full body? I was like, no, I don't train full body all the time. A lot of times I do splits, and I break break it up and I change that up all the time. But then there's also times in my life when I know I'm struggling with consistency.

There's other priorities going on right now. Remember when I first had max? I knew I was going to be in the gym five days, seven days a week most weeks. I'd be lucky to hit it two or three times. And if I were going to hit it two or three times, I'm going to do full body because I'm going to get the best bang for my butt. I also like it for this. Like if you're doing full body, you're probably doing one, maybe two exercises per body part, right? That means you're probably going to do squats for legs.

You're probably going to do a bench press for chest. You're probably going to do some kind of a barbell row or a deadlift. Like you are picking the best exercises because you're only doing one or two per body part. The frequency is high, right? You're going to be able to perform it well too. two per body part. The frequency is high, right? You can hold on. Or four of it will too. Yes. And again, the frequency is high. You're hitting the whole body three times in a week and you can do that with a split

two so you can go upper lower, upper lower, upper lower, which will do the same thing. But it requires five, six days in the gym. Exactly. So in my experience, full body for most people builds the most muscle gets the best results long term, just the bottom line. Does that mean splits can't also be effective? No, they could also be greatly effective. One more thing by the way, most strength athletes and bodybuilders train that way for years. It wasn't until the late 60s early 70s

were bodybuilders, especially with the introduction of anabolic steroids and the higher doses that they started using. You saw them doing these kind of higher volume workouts, more specific to particular body parts. But back in the day, when they were using no steroids or very low steroids or low dose steroids, I should say, full body. This is what everybody did and they got the best results doing it. The next question is from May punk. Should we be lifting to failure each set or should we feel like we can get more reps in with each set? How can I tell if I'm lifting the right amount of weight to make progress? Oh man, guess we haven't addressed this in a while. It is.

You know, when I was younger, I was under the impression that lifting the failure was essential because you knew if you went to failure, you at least passed the threshold for building muscle or sending that signal. So going to failure, you know you hit that threshold. Not only that, and I know you were reading the same articles and shit I was reading. I mean, there was a lot of stuff to support the benefits of that.

To show what end up, you what would happen if you ended up training to failure, the extra benefits of doing that. The problem with that, there's a lot of those that research doesn't take an account, like you're how taxing is on your central nervous system, what you do the next day or two days. How it affects you like multiple days after.

And then yeah, and then what that looks like over the course of three to five months, because what ends up happening is, and I'm sure there's lots of teenage boys that do the same thing that I did, which is read an article like that and go like, oh, training a failure gets X percent more muscle because of X, Y, and Z.

Okay, every session, every exercise I'm training to failure using my buddy in a spotter and you're just fried all. No, the truth is I got the best results of my life with myself and my clients almost never trained to failure. In fact, if you look at some of the best strength athletes in the world, they rarely ever trained to failure. Look at Olympic athletes, even power lifters rarely go to failure, except for maybe competitions. Bodybuilders tend to be the ones that go to failure more often, but even bodybuilders, even if you watch pro bodybuilders,

they rarely go to failure. Lee Haney, one of the most winningest Mr. Olympia said, stimulate, don't annihilate. Okay, so these are all opinions, right, and experience. What are the studies show? Studies also support this. Going to failure does not produce better results, in fact, So this is, these are all opinions, right? And experience. What are the studies show? Studies also support this. Going to failure does not produce better results.

In fact, actually starts to produce less results, or worse results, than not going to failure. So what's the right intensity? For most people, it's stopping maybe two or three reps before failure. So here's where I see the value of going to failure. Every once in a while, it's good to go to failure so that you know what it feels like.

And then you know what stopping to rep short of that feels like. That's what I'll do. So I to go to failure so that you know what it feels like. And then you know what stopping two reps short of that feels like. That's what I'll do. So I'll go to failure once every three months or six months. Now, okay, this is the intensity that failure feels like. Sort of your barometer or whatever.

That's a gauge for you to know. Okay, here's where my threshold is. But honestly, the least amount of times you're gonna expose yourself to going to failure, probably the better. I used it a lot with strength athletes and athletes in general just to see if the training has been successful leading up to this point. It's almost like you build up to a point where now you're displaying your true strength

and finding out how much am I capable of with this, but there's got to be... There's significant time after that where they need to recover and then go back to, you know, this, this two-repshi affiliate. The other thing that's really negative about training to failure too is it can be very detrimental to your form. So if you're like I was, a kid who was always chasing that PR or always trying to put more weight on the bar and have him buddy spot them. I can remember, I know you have a vivid memory of yourself. Bitch pressing like this to get the weight up. And if you're doing that all the time, you're creating bad patterns, bad habits. And maybe at 20 years old,

it don't bother you right now, but that's the type of shit that catches up when you're 30 and 40 years old. Yeah, this is my blowing stuff that I've been teaching, these high school kids is when we're going through these like compound lifts. It's like, we don't want to perform a bad rep. It's not even worth it. Like it's way better for you to master the technique

and hone in on that and treat it as real practice. Every time you're doing the lift, I want you to go down and load until we do it right. Yes. So that was something that they just looked, because every other coach, was just keep loading, loading, what until we do it right. Yes. So that was something that they just looked, because every other coach was just keep loading, loading, loading. What can we do?

But it's all slop. Like you said, you have somebody spotting them when they're struggling their way through it. And as they're doing their compensating the whole time, like shifting their way to the side and overreaching with their arm. And you get terrible results to develop an unbalanced physique,

you increase your risk of injury. I'd like to redefine failure. How about this? Go until your form is about to write down. That's right. And I think that's important that you say that too, because when we talk about failure like that, being too short, that's like too rep short of absolute failure,

but you can cut your rep. And I think a better gauge is literally the minute that you can feel your form is about the TVA. Yes, because most people think failure is, or at least the way it's defined, popularly is, I can't do another wrap. That's right. No, you can't do another perfect quality. Yes.

The second you feel like you can't do another perfect wrap, then you stop. And incidentally, that probably matches up pretty closely to two reps or three reps short of failure. Yep. Next question is from Catherine Health Journey. Can you explain how too much volume is negative for hypertrophy? Why is doing more exercises or more frequency often considered negative? Yeah, you know, your body isn't, you're not building muscle, you're not improving your

physique or your performance or your strength in your workout. You really aren't. All that's doing is it's sending a signal to the body that says we need to adapt and get better at this so that this same stress next time is no longer a stress. And so your body, what you want is your body to get stronger and you feel better. And the next time you have to add weight, do a little harder workout, so you can continue that process. If the stimulus is too hard, and it overwhelms your body's ability to adapt, all you're gonna do is heal.

All you're ever gonna do is your body's ever gonna just try to heal and recover. And you get stuck in this situation where you blast your body, you get sore, soreness goes away, you go back to the gym, you repeat the cycle over and over again, and you never improve, because your body can only focus on healing.

Before your body adapts, it heals. It needs to heal before it adapts. And if it doesn't, if you give your body too much volume or too much intensity or too much frequency, just too much in general, your body can't adapt. It's impossible, it body can't adapt. It's impossible. It's constantly breaking down. So the right dose will get you to the results fastest.

Any more than that, will get you there's a lot. You always give that great analogy on the podcast and you haven't said in a while. So maybe you can share it again is when you compare it to sun tanning, like you get tan. So it's more like that than something that, oh, the more I do, the more results I get. Yes, yes.

A tan is also an adaptation process, right? Your skin is adapting to the stress of the UV rays and it's getting darker so that it can tolerate more. Well, if you, you know, if you can, the zephy would happen when you stimulate with muscle. Yeah, stimulate the body's adapting by building more muscle to be more resilient because it knows it's gonna get beat up like that.

You see the same process in building a calis too with the skin. Yes. So that's one of those things. It's beneficial at a certain point because now, you know, it allows like, you grip the bar, you know, without your skin getting so irritated, but there's a certain threshold where if we go too hard, it's gonna rip off.

And then we start over and we just gotta heal. That's right. So the gym is important, working out is important, but you go too hard or too long or do too much. Your body can't handle it. It's not gonna adapt and all you're doing is breaking down and healing, breaking down and healing. It's the breakdown recovery traps, like a hamster wheel.

I know lots of people like this. It's like they never improve or they improve. I was this way for years. For years I trained because I subscribe to this idea of training to failure. And so like every workout, I needed to be, I needed to be crushing it more than the last workout. And so, and it was like,

how if I wasn't sore enough the next day, a problem with that was I was never adapting and growing. I was recovering sometimes, and not even all the time fully recovering. So I was hammering myself so much that I didn't even, not only did I not fully recover, I also didn't adapt and get stronger, which is an clear indication of this,

a real easy way for someone to go, well, how do I know is if you're not getting stronger ever and if you actually see yourself decrease in strength, really common to see that where you have all of a sudden, you've been consistent for two months, three months, and you're getting weaker one week. Oh, you're overdoing it. Yeah.

Yeah, this is a hard conversation though to have. A lot of times because you think about the person that works so incredibly hard. Yeah. And it's something that they've always done and it's worked out in every other direction. And but there's a certain point where just working hard is not going to do it.

Like, you really have to be smart about your approach and the body adapts. And that's different than just beating the shit out. Yes, hard work is very valuable. But boy, you can dig a ditch with a spoon and you're going to be working real hard. But the guy next to you with a backhoe, he's going to get there much faster, right? So you got to do it smart too. Next question is from Jim Gadget. What are some of the fitness gimmicks still around today

that need to stop? Oh, fitness gimmicks. You know what? The screen is still popular. I know I can't mention that. And you know what, that's been around forever. You can call it a course. The Renaissance Age or whatever.

Yeah. So here's one that I remember it from early on and it always cycles its way back in. These are these stem machines Yeah, that's it stems they'll put on their abs and say like doing a thousand sit-ups while you're at your desk Or now there's one that goes on your butt and there's just funny because they use a girl with like a nice butt or whatever And they'll put it looks like a butterfly and they stick it on her butt and she's laying on her stomach and her butt makes her butt twitch Yeah, it's like I'm doing squats for my butt. No, STEM machines, there's a little bit of value

to preventing muscle loss. Yeah, I see recovery, I see some value there. Yeah, but to build muscle, now, it's a waste of money. At least, if you can't generate it yourself, you could devalue it immediately, if you could just generate that force yourself. I remember, I bought one because Bruce Lee used them. So Bruce, that's how long these things have been around, right?

Bruce Lee would put him on while he was writing and his chest would do the thing and he'd talk about how it's like doing a million push-ups on both Bruce Lee does it. I'm gonna do it. And I remember I put him on my calves because I'm like, I'm gonna grow. Anything passive though, I mean, again,

that's an example of that, something where, oh, you could just sit in your chair or watch TV and you're gonna build muscles, bullshit. Yeah, there's anything passive, it's just not gonna work. Yeah, you know? So that's one, I mean, we're not in the gyms anymore, so it's hard, right? It's, I mean, it's been so long since we've been in like

a commercial gym to like look around and people, which I mean, one of my favorite things to do is go in the gym and like people watch. And we haven't been able to do that a long time. But I do know that the, the screen thing is still a big deal. Like that's still a possible. What about the creams? These have also been around forever.

They make you sweat. They're for help people on the body. Oh, sweet sweat, right? Is it like, all that? Yeah, and you rub them on your body, and then you sweat a lot, and then it's... Well, because they're still that association when I sweat, like, I'm getting skinny.

Like, I'm getting rid of whatever. Like, there might be fat that's leaking out with my sweat. Like, I'm just disgusting, that would be... It's a slippery, it's just... That's coming off of you. That's just a lard, you know? Yeah, it doesn't work like that. But it's funny because a lot of these old ones cycle themselves.

Yeah, they come back. Over and over, this dim machines, I swore to God, man, I saw the ads for them in the 1990s, and I see the ads for them in the 1990s And I see the same damn products just packaged it. You know what we should do? We should come up with the one that just shakes the shit out of your We should just do that because people like it needs to post that video. There's a great video of a blad's black and white video So it's my grandma had one really no way no way how threw it away, I'm so mad because I'm like, this would have been so awesome to save.

Oh yeah. And it's a relic. But literally, it stood up on a, it was like a scan. Like a little belt. Like a little runny. Yes, and it's a belt, and it was attached to these two arms that would move like this, and you put around your body, and you turn on, and it literally just shaked the shit out of you.

Yeah. And apparently, you had a weird byproduct, like you became a really good salsa dancer. That's the only thing that came out of you. Which turned out apparently had a weird byproduct like you became a really good salsa dancer That's the only thing that came out of it. You lean right? That's it. That's why it works. Yes Check this out head over to mind pump free calm and look at all of our free guides and free giveaways lots of free stuff Mind pump free calm. You can also find all of us on Instagram So you can find Justin at mind pump Justin me and mind pump sal and Adam at mind pump Adam Thank you for listening to MindPump.

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