Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1593: How Flexing Can Help Build Muscle, Inexpensive High Protein Snacks & Meals, Ways to Increase Core Strength & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right? In today's episode, we answered some fitness and health questions that were asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is with an intro portion. So this is where we talk about working out,

Starting point is 00:00:28 nutrition, we bring up scientific studies, current events. We mention our sponsors. Today's intro portion was 43 minutes long. After that, we got to the fitness question. So we opened up by talking about Justin's workout. We're gonna film his workout next. You guys can all go to YouTube and see my workout. You guys are out. You're not ready for Justin's workout.

Starting point is 00:00:46 Let me tell you. That led us to talking about some great athletes of the past, the great gamma and Kimura. These were fighters who looked like they lifted weights like bodybuilders, but then were men. Really crazy. Then we gave a little update on the book sales. So I wrote a book called The Resistance Training Revolution

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Starting point is 00:02:31 Bacon forward slash Mind Pump and get that hookup. Then we got to the question. So here's the first one. This person says, this flexing the mirror have any significant carryover. So is there any value to flexing in the mirror for the body? The next question, does personal wants to know some of the best ways to improve core strength and performance? The next question, does personal wants to know about food intolerances? Are they self-induced or is this something that we're born with? And the final question, this person says, look, I'm a college student, don't have a lot of money.

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Starting point is 00:03:23 So half off both of them for the full month of July, go check them out, head over to mapsfitinistproducts.com and use the code JulySpecial with no space for that discount. We just went live with Sal's workout video and I was really curious to see because the vlogs do kind of like whatever on the channel. People always wanna watch, because the vlogs do kind of like whatever on the channel.

Starting point is 00:03:45 People always want to watch, see what we do when we work out. I know, and we should of course, right? Know that, I mean, that was like the first time we've done a vlog that's like that. And I know that there's been a little resistance from all of us on that, because none of us feel like we're like, I don't want to post like a cool guy. Right.

Starting point is 00:04:00 Like, yeah, you kind of have to do all the cool guy stuff. Yeah. It's also anti like, we're so against like the way the fitness Industry sells fitness, which is like look at me Sexy and blood we're all like but it's every now and then we got a little Yeah, that's right. They don't even know But I mean the truth is though it just it just highlights how much it works still because look at the way it's taking off right now The comments are flying you didn't even call for comments. It's flying right now

Starting point is 00:04:31 And you know the one the number one comments I'm seeing right now is everyone wants to see this guy's workout Justin's workout. Why yeah, that's interesting to me. You're a horse What do you mean? Well, maybe because it's a little different Sal's Sal hyped you up pretty good too, so That was part of you. He hyped you up pretty good like just so strong I'd say that did you watch it? Yeah, but like I Like okay, then tingly's are happy yeah, you can only watch Sal and a wife be so long. You can't watch it so long, you guys. He's like, I just weirded both out of those. Is this a fact on me? A weird bone right?

Starting point is 00:05:09 This doesn't make sense. No, what I said in the video was, because I actually talked about both you guys, and this is just true, right? So, you know, because Eli's filming it, and so people don't know Eli kind of manages the vlogs and he narrates it, and he was asking me about my workouts and comparison to you guys.

Starting point is 00:05:28 And I was just very honest. I said, look, here's a deal. Adam was an IFBB professional chasing his aesthetics is going to be, it's a game in futility. In other words, I'm not going to achieve his aesthetics, but it's nice to reach for that, right? And then I mentioned you and I said, Justin's different, I said,

Starting point is 00:05:46 if you work out with Justin, one of two things will happen, which is true also, either you're gonna get hurt or you're gonna give up. Because that's kind of what happens. I feel like the more Jack he gets the sweeter he becomes. All these, I was watching. I'm not censored.

Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah, that's true. Hey, that's true. I don't know go back just like Ten Yeah, I've been talking shit so with that when he's feeling amazing Adam so good looking fit and just and so Stuce will hug him. I'm just lucky to be here I'm trying to just this guy Talk to you guys at a

Starting point is 00:06:19 Fine stop. No, I know what you're doing. He's like setting a set what that is because he's feel so good He's like I'm gonna be nice to these guys and I'm not gonna talk shit. I'm waiting for them to talk to me in the middle. I'm like, I'm here and I just gotta get these guys up with daddy here. Yeah, it's so tough. No, that's all right. Yeah, no, actually that would be fun.

Starting point is 00:06:33 I'd have fun with that. Like, you know, filming a lot of stuff. What is everyone's training look like right now? I know it's been a minute since we did an update on what it was. I like the differences in your workouts. I think that's such an important thing to talk about because you do things different.

Starting point is 00:06:47 I mean, Adam and I will play around with some of the stuff you do and some of the stuff will do consistently. But you definitely work out differently. Adam and I work out more similar. Yours is a lot more serious. Yeah, well, that's true. No, it's Adam and I work out more serious than you do.

Starting point is 00:07:02 It's like if you have your go-tos that you still kind of incorporate, even though you've trained or you've changed your adaptation focus completely, you still kind of pull in some of your favorite exercises. I do that a lot with certain things I know, especially for my shoulders that I want to maintain and keep functioning and keep performance high. I need to keep putting rotation in there. So I do still do Indian club swings, I do Mayspell swings. I do things that are loaded for rotation because I want to maintain that strength. It's just been so beneficial for me with overhead presses,

Starting point is 00:07:40 specifically also bench press, anything where I'm pushing, and then just having good posture throughout the day, too. I've noticed that. If I don't incorporate certain unconventional lifts, my posture gets affected, and even all the way down to my hips, that's one of those things I'm always considering if I'm not doing a Turkish get up, or I'm not doing farmer walks, or things like that. I feel like my body starts to slowly deteriorate on me. Yeah. Well, we need to talk about the Mayspell Swings, because a lot of people watching or listening to this have never tried one.

Starting point is 00:08:16 And so they see it and it's like, like if you see, if you work out and you see someone squatting two or three times their body weight, everyone's impressed, right? You see someone with a Mayace bell that weighs 75 pounds. Yeah. And you don't really understand that that's frickin' hard. Like, how heavy is the heaviest one that we have that you've seen? The lightest one's 15.

Starting point is 00:08:33 55 pounds, I believe. Yeah, okay, so swinging a 55 pound mace bell, it's a long ass lever. You're holding the end of it. You're swinging it behind your back. It's a big ol' bell, too, that has like, playing a plane. It wants to twist your spine in half is what it feels like. I mean, what would you say?

Starting point is 00:08:49 I mean, Justin, would you, I feel like I would tell somebody that I would start somebody in like Indian clubs before I went to Mace Pirmerson. I just safer, right? Like swinging a Mace belt, you could swing more control. Make sure you have space, by the way. Remember that time you were swinging it and Adam had his dog here and it was running for us. Oh my god. I almost took his head out.

Starting point is 00:09:09 That was scary. Yeah, I feel like Mace Bell can be a lot more dangerous than the Indian clubs, especially if you've never done it before and or you don't have great shoulder mobility. I think it requires more technique to learn. But yeah, I think it's so valuable though. Like I just don't feel like, you know what happens is Instagram sort of pollutes a lot of these training methods where you start adding dance moves to them.

Starting point is 00:09:36 Okay. And it's like all of a sudden it becomes this thing where everybody's doing all these really super fancy moves that are like unnecessary. I get so much benefit out of just a 360 swing. And because I can be intentionally focused on just that swing, I can slowly, progressively overload, I can add more weight to that specific movement and build strength just like any other muscle.

Starting point is 00:10:00 Well, don't you fit, I mean, that's typical fitness industry, to bastardize something that's amazing tool. Like, I think your point to the 360 is that really what, or at least what I use it for is to keep great full range of motion strength up. Yes. And one movement, the 360 swing that you're talking about, does that better than almost anything else? Now, what I see a lot is like you said, is I see people doing these fan reverse lunge with it to a whole, and I've messed around with that, and when I'm doing it, I just feel silly,

Starting point is 00:10:30 because I'm like, okay, this isn't really a great leg exercise that I'm doing right now. I'm getting a little bit of an ant-train-a-routine. Yeah, it's like the biggest thing to me too. I don't like to, I mean, I guess, you know, I know some of these guys, and I think they're doing cool stuff, and it's like, but it's a totally different genre.

Starting point is 00:10:46 Let's put it that way. Like I'm just focused on the strength part of it and what's benefiting my shoulders. And so that's where I just try to keep it simple. Just like when you go back and start lifting, you know, for these compound lifts, you're like, oh yeah, those five lifts. Why did I get away from those five lifts?

Starting point is 00:11:02 It's just because you get distracted. Yeah, you know what's, you were talking about how they bastardize exercises. You know what it reminds me of, is when they, when you got these fitness influencers doing like leg raises, and there's someone there punching them in the, they're not a boxer, they're not a fighter.

Starting point is 00:11:18 It's just some dude who's lean, and he's doing, and then in between, there's a guy slapping his abs, like this is how I work out my abs. No, that's how you're in idiot. That doesn't do it anymore. You know where I feel the Mayspell swings the most? I know it's a good for rotation of the shoulders, my core.

Starting point is 00:11:32 Oh, yeah. Well, you want to stabilize your spine or you're gonna snap, right? So, yeah. And the history of it, by the way, it was used heavily by wrestlers back in the day. Indian wrestlers in particular, you know, if you look at the history of wrestling,

Starting point is 00:11:47 India has an incredible lineage. There was one wrestler called the great Gama, I think his name was, if I hope I'm saying his name right, maybe Doug could try looking him up. And this guy was like, I mean, he looked like the cartoon wrestler with the mustache. And it's just, oh yeah, the curly mustache. I mean, this is before like, forget steroids

Starting point is 00:12:03 before protein powders and creatine, right? And this guy was just huge. And I think he had something like 2000 matches undefeated. Wow. And he would, and this, and some of the exercises they did, where there he is right there, look what he's holding. A massive, look at Doug, push the man right there. Click on the very right picture.

Starting point is 00:12:21 That's an Indian dude. Yeah, and he was a beast. I mean, look at that guy. Remember, this is no, they didn't like necessarily lift weights. They did what we're called, so great gamma, G-A-M-A. I'm sure a picture of him will pop up here on the YouTube. He, they did what are called Hindu squats, Hindu pushups. They did lots of kettlebell swinging.

Starting point is 00:12:41 They did, of course, Indian clubs. And this guy, what year is this? Do you have any idea? Good, good. It was a long time ago, but that's a good question. I want to say it was in the 1800s later. He was gonna call that. You know in a king, when was it 1940s?

Starting point is 00:12:56 Oh, so it wasn't even as long ago as I thought. Yeah, but anyway, this guy, 2000 matches or something like that undefeated. And he was born in 1878. So, yeah. Yeah, so he was wrestling then in the 1880s. Wait, wait, you just said that's in the 40s. That would be, he's 70 something years old

Starting point is 00:13:12 when he was doing these feats. No, no, no. That can't be right. No, I've read about the 1947 riots. That doesn't have to do with his stuff. Yeah, just a random fact for us here. That's how I'm looking. He's looking like a kid.

Starting point is 00:13:24 He's wondering if there's a's over there at the site. By the way, the Menland of a Moon in 19th. It's a pretty-errone history here. I love reading about old strength athletes because they were not polluted by social media, magazines, supplements, something like that. Nothing. And these guys were beasts.

Starting point is 00:13:45 Like, there's another guy, he was a judo fighter from Japan. The Camera. Actually, the Camera lock in Jiu-Jitsu was named after this guy. Oh, wow. This guy was a beast. He would throw people with a very basic judo throw. I think it was a Soto-Gari, it was a call. It's like one of the first throw.

Starting point is 00:14:02 And he would learn knock people out. He hit him so hard on the ground. Is this a stupid question? And when you go through judo or Soto-Gari, it was a call. It's like one of the first words. And he would learn knock people out. He hit them so hard on the ground. Now is this a stupid question? And when you go through Judo or Jiu-Jitsu, do they actually teach you the history of all the moves? Like when you learn a move in class? Not really. No, they don't.

Starting point is 00:14:14 Not really. But the Camurra is famous because he, so, Helio Gracie, who is the founder of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu or some people would say Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, he was this kind of small skinny guy and he would do all these fight, these challenges in Brazil. This is how we got Jiu Jitsu to be very popular

Starting point is 00:14:32 and his dad learned from a Japanese judo guy. So he learned it and he would do all these matches and then he wanted to challenge the Japanese champion, Camura and Camura was undefeated. Nobody could touch him. Camura sent his student down first, because he saw one look at Helio. That's a move, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:14:48 It is, so this is what happened, right? So he sends down, I think the guy's name was Sato. I don't remember, anyway, he had this student, his top student, and he said, if you beat him, then I'll come fight you. And I think because he saw Helio was a skinny kid, guy or whatever, so he's like, I'm not gonna waste my time.

Starting point is 00:15:03 Anyway, Helio ends up choking this guy asleep. So Camura comes and says, all right, I'll fight you. And the fight lasted, I don't know how long it was, a long fight, he threw Helio a bunch of times, Helio did not give up, he couldn't beat him. Finally, he gets him in a Camura lock, which didn't exist in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and he breaks Helio's arm, Helio refuses to tap.

Starting point is 00:15:22 So Camura afterwards says he's the greatest warrior I've ever fought. And then Jiu-Jitsu included this, you know, some people call it figure four lock, or it's called Camura lock, and Jiu-Jitsu named after. So what does it remind me with that looks like? I don't have seen it in UFC before. They'll take the arm and they'll bend it behind you, and you grab the wrist, grab your own hand,

Starting point is 00:15:40 and so you use leverage to... Oh, you can't... So two arms on what? You're cranking on it? Yeah, so it's two arms on one So it comes from the behind here and yeah, it'll snap you Snap you snap you snap too. I do I've seen spiral fractures. Oh, you're termin turn them in it's disgusting Yeah, arms now how many how many of the moves like that have you learned the history? Do you know a lot?

Starting point is 00:15:58 I was ignored about it So of course I love to have heard about every is there any I'm not a nerd about there's a comrade logs you on the very right I mean I appreciate bro. It's great for podcast right. I mean, I appreciate it, bro. It's great for podcasting. So, I mean, it's so, it's so, it's so you, it's the knowing of life. Yeah. Yeah. In real life, it's a knowing for podcasting.

Starting point is 00:16:13 It's brilliant. Yeah. That was one of my favorite some damage. Yeah, and the Japanese are huge fans of that, of that particular. Oh, yeah, that's a nasty one. Yeah, if you look at Camura, if you look up a picture of, of Camura, the, the Japanese judo guy, remember, they didn't lift weights either,

Starting point is 00:16:26 they did lots of body weight stuff, and they would do body weight stuff with partners, so someone would jump on the back, the squats, or push it. He was jacked. He was like 220 pounds, and he would, I don't know if he had done other people's body weight

Starting point is 00:16:38 around the whole day. Doug, if you could look up like Camera judo champion, or maybe that'll help, or Camera judo, oh yeah, Masahiko, is that how you say? Okay, look at it, look it on the very left, look at the guy's neck, right? Right now. Wow.

Starting point is 00:16:52 Just thick neck, everywhere. Yeah, dude, and there's, he was jacked, dude. Bro, again, look at this guy, can you imagine? This guy was a beast, and there's videos of him in his 60s, I think, teaching his students, and he's just throwing them. Like, they're nothing. Now, when did, when did like the weight training evolve to help these guys?

Starting point is 00:17:13 Like, when did we start to figure out like what type of exercises and things that they should be doing in the weight room to get them great at? Like, traditional resistance training? Yeah, yeah, as they did body weight. Because it hasn't been that long that that really has moved into it right?

Starting point is 00:17:23 You know, here's the thing. In fact, I talk about this a little bit in the resistance training revolution book. How is that going, by the way? Oh, it's going, oh great. I think we're, we've hit like 10,000 copies, which isn't bad for a few months, release. Oh, wow.

Starting point is 00:17:36 All right. It's got five star reviews on Amazon. We have great fans, so I mean, they'll go on there. They're very vocal, yeah, they've been. Yeah, I do. The best thing is I'm getting messages from people who never exercised or traditionally and the message means, say, wow, I never thought about doing resistance training to improve my health.

Starting point is 00:17:54 And now I'm doing routine. I feel really good. And so that's the most, you know, I mean, you would know more than me as far as talking in the publisher and the agents of like that. What is what they consider? Like is it a good launch for us? Is it, I mean, 10,000 sounds like a ton of books. Yeah, that's good for the how long it's been released. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:18:13 Because it's evergreen, it'll probably continue to grow. So, I mean, the goal really was to create a book to get people talking and get me on shows to talk about resistance, right? Of course. I mean, I know what our desire to outcome was, but I'm just curious to like, you know. They said it's good. I actually have no idea.

Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. I don't know if it's good or bad or what. I mean, it sounds good. I mean, that's a lot of books in a short period of time. And what we tend to notice is it's still just trickling, right? Just happening. But yeah, back to the resistance training.

Starting point is 00:18:38 You know, I think with all sports, it wasn't that long ago. It was like five decades ago, maybe. So maybe 50 years ago. Yeah, but even then I feel like, so I remember when UFC was first coming out and remember they were all doing like CrossFit. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:53 So it really evolved just in the last decade, I feel like where they started to release this. Bruce Lee, who really started kind of bringing in a lot of the actual training and bodybuilder kind of training. Yeah, but he was so ahead of everybody. Yeah, but I mean, at least the thought of it of bringing that into martial arts. Yeah, think about that, right?

Starting point is 00:19:09 Bruce Lee was doing movies in what, the 60s. So who were the top boxers at that time, right? You had like Muhammad Ali, Muhammad Ali, they didn't live with whites, even George Foreman didn't live with, and he looked like he lived with whites. Yeah, that's true. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:19:21 Boxers were encouraged not to. They told to do road work, calisthenics, bag work, right in chop and trees. Yeah, and they were saying if you didn't realize they weren't, they weren't lifting weights back then. That's a little bit long ago. They thought it would make them slow. Who is the first boxer then to start to do?

Starting point is 00:19:33 Well, event of Holyfield was, all these like random quiz. You never know Jack, the banner, Holyfield was the first guy to popularize it. Right, to make it look like, let's do this weights. And then of course, Tyson, and lift a little bit.

Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah, that guy was a pure person. But man, it took a long time, but you know what, I love about sports, is I do this way. And then of course, Tyson. Tyson and lift a little bit. Yeah, that guy was curious. But man, it took a long time, but you know what I love about sports is, I'm not a big sports guy, obviously, but here's what I like about it. It's objective. So it's like, if the team keeps kicking everybody's ass, then at some point, you can believe whatever you want, but they're winning. So you go, okay, well, I guess lifting weights has got some real value. So maybe it's time to start implementing it.

Starting point is 00:20:03 Football is probably the first sport to really do it. And then later on. Now it's like, can you think of a sport where they don't live weights? No, but I still think that. You don't even golf the lift weights. I know. I mean, I think that even it's still evolving those as far as how they train. I mean, there's still a lot of professional athletes that have terrible coaches and trainers. Yeah. I mean, so it's been it's been popularized enough to know that it's been popularized enough to know that it's important, like, hey, lifting weights can definitely benefit whatever your sport is,

Starting point is 00:20:29 but I don't think that it's gotten so popular that every athlete has a primo coach who's telling them what they should be doing. I think that's only just now happening. I agree. I agree. They're just now figuring out they need to really specialize their training programs

Starting point is 00:20:44 to cater to these athletes for longevity, but also they're very specific sports needs. Yeah, because it wasn't that long ago, where, again, athletes were encouraged to not lift weights because it would reduce their speed and performance, and now you're starting to see them pay attention. Go back to the 80s, right? Look at the training regimens and diets of some,

Starting point is 00:21:07 some of these guys, literally there were baseball players that would party all night, forget that they had a game. Who's that one pitcher? He dropped a ton of acid, because he thought he was gonna party and end up showing off. Obviously he had a derrel strawberry, but no, yeah, I know you're talking about. Yeah, that was like a pitch to no hitter.

Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah, yeah, quite, quite insane. I don't, I don't think that's who it was. I brought him up on our way. I keep forgetting his name, but you know, and then of course you go back even further. Well, that, I mean, worth, what about nutrition? I mean, nutrition is really, is probably even further behind than the way training

Starting point is 00:21:35 because there's still a lot of athletes that eat like crap and then there's a handful. I feel like we're not a handful, more than a handful, but there's a smaller percentage of them that are actually dialed in. It's fabulous. Oh, doc, you can watch the game, and you had no idea this guy's high on acid,

Starting point is 00:21:51 and he threw a no-hitter, which is absolutely... It was a bold move. I know. Yeah. When he was in the zone, no, you know, like... You know what, I did not know, and this is when we talk to top level sports coaches, right? Is they say oftentimes the reason why you don't mess with diet

Starting point is 00:22:11 is because it messes with the athlete psychologically. So like if someone's so player is like, before every game I drink two glasses of cool aid and I eat a cheeseburger from McDonald's. And I win when I do that. And then you're like, no man, that's not good for you. You know, it's super- That was um, ritualistic.

Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah. What was the sports psychologist we had on, uh, McCabe, Brett McCabe? Oh, yeah. He said that. That's right. I forgot all about that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:36 You're right. It's because it's the return that you get on them eating better is a small enough return that it's not worth messing their head up. He's like, no, I eat a double cheeseburger before we game. That's how I win. Did you get there? All right, that's your process.

Starting point is 00:22:47 Did you have anything like that when you played? I mean, I was very much superstitious. Like I had like specific socks. I had a specific way I put, you know, my uniform on and that. Never watched his underwear. Nobody fucked me. You know, I was really adamant. Don't talk to me.

Starting point is 00:23:01 Like I had to hyper focus and be in my own world and I used to get so mad in college specifically because everybody is just all joking and jovial before we're about to like basically go to war in my mind. Were you guys taking supplements? Were supplements popular in your school when you were doing that? Were you or I?

Starting point is 00:23:22 Obviously 90s. Yeah, so there was some guys that were really about it. Like I mentioned, was it many things? Remember those when they came out, I was like, Fedra, Fedra, like, there was a couple guys that, I mean, this only happened for a few games, but they're experimenting with it. And oh my god, you should have seen the opening kick off. It was like a bunch of rabbit dogs.

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Starting point is 00:23:55 I actually did a whole talk yesterday just specifically on nutrition because I was like, that's something that nobody talks about. I have no idea where these kids are coming from. One thing that was interesting to me to think about was a lot of these kids will sleep till noon, right? And so then they're just like barely even cramming something in before they come to practice. And so they're not even like properly,

Starting point is 00:24:17 you know, preparing and eating, you know, to get to practice, which, I mean, they're expending so many calories in these workouts because it's not just like in the weight room where I wanna implement what I wanna do with them, but it's also they gotta go run hundreds and they gotta do all this crazy other stuff and they don't have the proper energy

Starting point is 00:24:36 because they haven't been focused on eating crates. Well, you have to be that, okay, I'll get, before we're done here today, make sure you talk to Jerry, I'll have them send over specifically for your high school team. You'll be a champion, but you show up every time with the element.

Starting point is 00:24:48 It's perfect, can hook all of them up. Yeah, this kid's getting cramps, and you know, there's, they're not properly hydrating, so I guarantee that would make a massive difference. I did bring them up. I brought them up and I brought a creatine up. In terms of how it's-

Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, I'll have them give you extra, so you can literally bring that every month for the kids and you can be that, that coach is who can everybody up. So that'll be cool. That's a lot of, yeah, I love it. That'll have an impact too, because you're a kid. And you're like, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm, I think about it. Supplement. There's a little performance boost. Cutting edges, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, it'll be super cool. That's what I'm saying. You'll be looking at champion doing that. That's not what the parents are. And it's like, who does it love free supplements?

Starting point is 00:25:24 That's it. So Katrina always laughs about this because we just did this yesterday. Who was it? I don't remember who she did this for, but we do this a lot. Like as a thank you to someone that maybe helps us out or comes by the studio.

Starting point is 00:25:34 We talk about how much free supplements we have. She always does this little, oh, it was Vicki. That's who it was. And I didn't even tell you guys this. So yesterday Vicki was in here. She cut my son's hair after all of us. And she's like, hey, she hasn't asked any one of us this. She asks Katrina.

Starting point is 00:25:49 She goes, hey, could I buy some mind pump gear? I, you know, she was like, no, we'll take care of you. So I don't want to say, no, no, no, it's okay. I'm like, of course, don't worry about it. What size and she's getting our stuff. And then she put together like a, you know, she just took all the random supplements that we get since. It's like, like, go to move, like, all these supplements that we get given to it. And then we give them, she just took all the random supplements that we get since, that's like the go-to move,

Starting point is 00:26:05 like all these supplements that we get given to it, and then we give them by, she goes every time I do that, you would be surprised like how excited everybody gets. I'm not surprised. I said I know what I was, and we talked about this before that. If I was 22 year old me trainer, and you told me that this future business

Starting point is 00:26:24 that we were going to build all you Did you as well as sell at a fitness expo no it gave me Unlimited supplement access and like thousands of dollars someone sent me free I would be like oh, that's it. I wouldn't even care about the salary or how much money like really? I'm gonna get that much free supplements every month I know I mix all kinds of weird things together Just see what'll happen if I ever die, that's probably what killed me. Sal makes four different supplements together.

Starting point is 00:26:48 He wasn't so much. No, but psychologically, I remember as a kid, when I was 14 or 15, I just started lifting weights and I'm going through my parents like they had their own supplements. And they were vitamins. It wasn't like anything crazy. But I remember going through being like,

Starting point is 00:27:02 what can I take before I work out? And my dad had these Vitamin C packets that you put in water and it fizzed. Yeah, and I thought for sure It has to do something. Oh, dude, and I would take it and get the best workouts. It was all psychological Nusk is it got bubbles talking about football? Have you guys just and have you seen what the COVID restriction rules are for the NFL right now? Have you seen what they're doing? No, I haven't. Oh, dude, I'm going to read these to you guys. So I actually restriction for fans or for the players?

Starting point is 00:27:28 For the players. So this is what they're doing. So they tried to encourage the players to get vaccinated. And I think they were so unsuccessful with it. This is this is the rules for this season. I'm going to read them off because I was so surprised on like the stuff that we have. So if you're a vaccinated player, uh, you will not need to be required to submit

Starting point is 00:27:46 a daily COVID-19 test. If you are in vaccinated, you'll have to test daily. Every day. Every day, right? If you're vaccinated, will not be required to wear a mask at team facilities or during travel. Obviously, if you're not, then you will have to. Well, if you're vaccinated, you will not need to quarantine after being exposed to COVID-19. If you have it, we will need a self-quarantine following exposure. For someone who has been vaccinated, no travel restrictions or limits on movement. If you haven't been, we'll remain under same

Starting point is 00:28:16 travel restrictions as of the 2020 season restrictions, which is the whole two weeks before you can see anybody, you'll remember all that stuff. They can't, so listen, there's a bunch, but I'm gonna name some of the ones that I thought were really interesting. Like you can't even use the cafeteria with your teammates, so they're gonna isolate these people that are decided

Starting point is 00:28:35 they're not gonna get vaccinated. You can't even use social media. Social exercising, then. Here's a weird one. You can use social media. Listen to this. Okay, vaccinated players, no limits on social media marketing or promotional opportunities. Unvaccinated players not allowed to have social media marketing or promotional opportunities.

Starting point is 00:28:53 Why? I know. I thought that was really weird. That's then at that, clearly is just pressure to get vaccinated. Because that has nothing to do with that. You're not permitted to use a steam room or sauna. I mean, they're doing a lot of things to just completely isolate this.

Starting point is 00:29:07 Dude, remember how I brought up that dark horse podcast where they had that doctor on who talked about Ivermectin? And then Rogan had the two guys. Was it Brett Weinstein? You know, it's someone corrected it. Is it Weinstein or Weinstein? He pronounces it Weinstein. Weinstein, okay. So Brett Weinstein, and then there was a other doctor, can't remember his name.stein? He pronounces it Weinstein. Weinstein, okay.

Starting point is 00:29:25 So Brett Weinstein, and then there was a Southern doctor, can't remember his name, they talked about Evermechden. Rogan had an emergency podcast, had them on. So I got a message, I actually got several messages from doctors in other parts of the world where they have low access to vaccines, and so they've been relying on Evermechden,

Starting point is 00:29:43 and they're saying it's tremendously effective. I had one lady message me, I forgot what part of the world she was fine. I want to say Africa and she was saying, oh yeah, we've had tremendous success using Ivermectin to Thailand, too, right? Yeah, Thailand, Africa, I know some areas in Brazil, we're using it and they're finding tremendous success. We don't hear about that over here. And then there was also some, now I think the FDA's now investigating. We don't like competitors. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:09 I know the FDA's investigating heart inflammation issues for adolescents who are getting the vaccine. That's mainstream, by the way, I'm not making that up. So, yeah. No, there's concern, yeah. I know, interesting, right? Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I get the whole, I get the fear around it.

Starting point is 00:30:22 We don't want to, yeah, there are major, you know, money machine and they want to protect their money machine. Totally. And that's really like why they're so crazy about them. Sure, you know, it's amazing. Yeah, because one person on a team gets a full of it. Fixed, everybody's paid check. Yeah, the team can't compete. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:37 That's the way, you know, I was going to ask you guys, so what, I mean, I know how I feel about that. Like what's your, I mean, I would be upset as a player, but at the same time, it's an organization and you're getting paid. So it's kind of like each one of these companies sort of have to set their own standards, right? So, no, I agree. Yeah, so, I mean, what are you gonna do?

Starting point is 00:30:58 It's part of the business. Plus those guys, I mean, it's hard to feel bad for pro football players, you know, millions of dollars. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a job, right? And there's most people that have a job. There's parts of their job they don't like. But you still show up when you work because there's a lot of other things that you like about it.

Starting point is 00:31:13 And so that's the way I look at it. It's like, you're not the one writing the check. You have the opportunity to work for them and play. And even though I'm not a fan of all that stuff like that, I also agree with their ability to be able to do that. Yeah, let me see if I can stump you guys in this. I have like one little fun fact that's thrown here. Okay, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Sal might know this or not, but why is it, why you always start like that? Because, because he's in the weird facts. I know you never bring anything with you on the dumb guy over there. No one is there. He's all, you bring it all to business. Adam doesn't know anything, so it's like, it's not me. It's what it feels like. Yeah, no, it's like, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sides? Wrong. Oh, damn. Eight.

Starting point is 00:32:05 Eight, what do you mean? Eight has eight. So it's an eight-sided. Eight-sided, it's eight-sided. So it actually inverts from the corners. So there's a point in the middle of each one of the corners. And they didn't see that until they were, it was some kind of like, so it's equal knots.

Starting point is 00:32:21 So it changes as it goes up. Let me get a hexagon and not a freaking, I don't know what that's called, but it's it's definitely eight points to it where we always thought it was for But they didn't notice that until the shadow of the sun hit it like an equinox or Interesting, you know situated. Yeah, I was crazy. I wonder why aliens made the pyramids. That's what I always think about Yeah, why would they mean there's a reason I mean wouldn't that change the definition? It's not technically a pyramid anymore. How is that? It's just the base. So I think the pyramid's still, it's part of it,

Starting point is 00:32:49 but okay, I'm explaining it. So there's four points to the base. Correct. Right? So now if you add like little inversions on the sides, it's still a pyramid. It's not like, I feel like I'm more confused than before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know even less now. They don't even know. Yes, that's where I'm at. Have you now I know you know this Justin because you're again

Starting point is 00:33:15 You're into this. Yeah, but you know that the you know the spinks right that's the that looks like a big cat looking thing. Yeah. That it has pretty clear water erosion marks on it, right? Oh, good to prove the flood. Well, just to show, like, and there wasn't water in Egypt for way before the pyramids ever existed. Yeah. And so they think that that the sphinx was there way before the pyramids were. I mean, how crazy is that?

Starting point is 00:33:45 You know, it's funny, we have no way of knowing. We have no way of knowing. It's all speculation. The truth of like all of this shit. Well, okay, what's the, if the great flood was true, right? From, if you're going from the Bible, when was that time frame of that in relation to it? Oh, I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:34:00 Oh, yeah, that's something. I mean, there's my no, though. Yeah, there's no definitive date for that, I think. It's just me, well, there's no definitive like date for that. I think it's just me. Well, there's a lot of interesting new data out there too that you know shows more than likely there's a meteor impact which then caused like this huge flood and you know affected basically in the United States, you know, the Great Plains. Yeah, where like there wasn't a slow process. Yeah, it was a slow process. It was a fast piece of ice just basically came down

Starting point is 00:34:26 and carved through the land. Because the current theory is like that water slowly eroded and created the Grand Canyon. And so Graham Hancock says, there might be evidence that this was a fast process, that there was this cataclysmic event that created all of these things. And we really have no idea.

Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah, Randall Carlson, he's like this geologist, but he has like really cool evidence that shows, you know, from aerial views and things how when water moves fast, how it cuts through the earth differently. So you can actually see that on a massive scale of these fingers, like you'd see at the end of like a river or whatever, it looks very similar similar but on a really massive scale.

Starting point is 00:35:07 Here's the weird thing for me. You've ever seen the pictures of, they're like, I don't know how you would explain them. They're not carvings, but they're definitely big pieces of, I don't know, for lack of better term art, that you can't even see or notice until you're in the sky in a plane. Have you guys seen these? No. And they're ancient, and you can't make them out. Like if you're down on the ground or around it,

Starting point is 00:35:31 you don't know that there's literally a picture of an ant or a spider. One of them is a naked dude with an erection. Doug, what? Yes, you have to look this up now, Doug. Yeah, Doug, look this, it's literally a dude with a boner. What? And you don't see it unless you're way up in the sky. He's excited for aliens to visit. Yeah, and you don't see it unless you're way up in the sky.

Starting point is 00:35:45 He's excited for aliens to visit. Yeah, so those are the nods collines. There's one that's a spider. What is that? I don't know what that is. Those are, you see them from space. No, no, the nods collines. What is that?

Starting point is 00:35:55 That's what I'm talking about. What I'm saying, Peru, I believe. Yeah, and Peru. And you mean, what is creating, is it someone, I mean, they just mowed along a certain way? No, they blasted for 100,000. It's very impressive. Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:36:09 It's because it's making the lines, though. What is it? The mount top ridges? Soil is darker, and then when they carved through it, it's like, it uncovers the lighter type of dirt. So it just stayed like that. 2000 years old, some of these, that they find. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:36:22 Look up the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the green piece that came down there and actually destroyed. I don't know how you find this, but it'd be like naked, ancient naked man seen from airplane or something. I want you guys to see this. You really want us to see this naked man.

Starting point is 00:36:36 You know, Doug is so his search history. His history. Yeah, Nazca. Naked man. Naked man. I don't know if it was in Nazca though. I might have been someone else That's a guy that's like yeah, no, there's literally a dude I swore to God. There's a monkey. Yeah, yeah right there No, that's an English

Starting point is 00:36:57 Hell's that one been there Medieval so it's a medieval it's got a club you know, what? No way that's what it says it's not prehistoric it's medieval but for whatever reason medieval English people drew a dude with a club and a boner it weirdly makes it a thousand years old how old a thousand he's really divided that's a thousand years old yeah now now because it's a dude with a boner holding a club, do you think it was a bunch of dudes that were like, they were drunk on mead or something?

Starting point is 00:37:30 Yeah. It was like, dude, you know what'd be funny? If we did a massive naked dude. Painted boom. Just to tell the truth. Imagine the math required to do that. Exactly. Without the ability to see something from that high,

Starting point is 00:37:44 imagine that. That's way more difficult than see something from that high, I imagine that. That's way more difficult than you think. That's what I'm saying. To be that accurate. They couldn't, here's a thing. I was expecting to see some lines and you were like, No, that's better than I can draw on paper.

Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah. You know what's funny about this. Really though. There are all these alien conspiracies come from. Like you can only see it. That's crazy. Yeah, well think about it. They never saw their own damn painting.

Starting point is 00:38:07 How are they going to see it? You're in Medieval times. You ain't jumping that high. Like what are you doing? You're kind of guessing, you know, where are they going to see that from? That's from a plane. Man. And it's in rockers.

Starting point is 00:38:17 I can't tell what is it in that's, that makes it, stand out. I thought, are you less interested in this dog? I feel like I'm really interested in this stuff. Yeah, you are very interested. I mean, that's fascinating to me. Something that's that old. I'm with Justin, we found some that's Adam's like freaking Adam. Well, that is, that's, I mean, something that old,

Starting point is 00:38:36 you don't have the ability to see how, I mean, and to be that accurate, unless it's a big hoax and someone mode along that way in the last, then I'm not impressed anymore. Well, some of those crop circle things they've shown how they've been able to do that, but those can get really geometrically complex. Yeah, and so someone of the of course funny theories is that they were making that for the aliens because aliens are they're communicating. They're like, hey, it's like an FU or what? Hey, we got a boner. Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:05 I'm cock ready. Hey, you got two options if you come down here. We're producer kill. One or the other. We either fight or we fuck them down here. They're fuck around, find out. Yeah, that's that guy. That saved us.

Starting point is 00:39:18 We don't realize it. They saw that shit. They're warning and violent. We're out of here. We're not going to explain it. You're gonna go to Mars next plan. It's made out of chalk. It's what?

Starting point is 00:39:29 Made out of chalk. Yeah, that was a wash away. They've repaired it multiple times apparently over the years. Yeah, this makes sense. Here goes Adam's, Adam's. Okay, yeah, here's Adam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:41 Adam, I know. It's been there one time. Some kid did that in the 1980s, that's not real. Now I'm starting to think that way. It's chalk on grass, huh? That's kind of weird. I don't understand the details of it, but it's a thousand years old.

Starting point is 00:39:56 So I've never seen that before, so that's interesting. Yeah, no, that's interesting. That'd be a fun tattoo, huh? The statue. That'd be great. In your arm? Yeah. It's in your arm. The ramp of Your Arms. Stead of Your Arms. Stead of Your Arms.

Starting point is 00:40:06 The Rams. It's famous. You guys read that, I told you. It's medieval. It's super fast. It's cool. It's cool stuff. Anyway, I want to ask you, I'm going to take a left turn here, Adam.

Starting point is 00:40:14 I obviously wasn't in trucky with you guys when you guys had this famous rib meal. What's the deal? Everybody's like, bragging or talking about how amazing it was. Yeah, I mean, Doug brought a smoker up. So I was actually really excited. So I did Korean short ribs for dinner and a salad and I forget what else we did, Katrina and I did. And that was the original plan.

Starting point is 00:40:38 And then when I found out that Doug was bringing his smoker up, I actually have a freezer full of butcher box ribs, just over the course of, since I have moved from the other place to this place, I had just set up actually my grills. So I haven't grilled for a few months at my house. And so my freezer is,

Starting point is 00:40:54 cause I got everything on auto. So I've got all these ribs and I'm like, oh, you know what? I'll bring those, and we'll bring them, but I wanna make sure Case Doug didn't show up with his grill that I had a dinner plan for all of us and we're okay, but I'm gonna bring him just in case. If he does bring it, but I want to make sure Case Doug didn't show up with his grill that I had a dinner plan for all of us and we were okay, but I'm going to bring him just in case.

Starting point is 00:41:08 If he does bring it, then what I'll do is I'll get up early, throw him and smoke him all day long. And then oh, that's what you do. Yeah, so they're mom do they were like a six hour smoke. So well, not technically the whole time smoked right? It was smoked for two and a half hours, but it's cooking for that long. Yeah, oh yeah, cook for six hours. Yeah, so it just falls off and it's just,

Starting point is 00:41:26 oh yeah. I got to admit I was a little jealous because they were actually better than my ribs. Oh, I was wondering what you were asking. So when you guys were asking a lot of questions, there was a lot of questions like, what did you do here, Adam? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:38 I didn't know you had that in you. Yeah. So I, he is competitive. He is competitive. I'm very competitive with it because of this. Yeah, I was really, you know, it's funny. He says that now because he was, he's after a lot of questions for guys,

Starting point is 00:41:47 smokes ribs all the time. Right. Yeah, they were so good. I mean, they were super juicy and, I actually called an audible a little bit because we couldn't find apple juice where we were at. So I didn't have the apple juice to kind of hydrate it. And you actually saved me with that because I'm like,

Starting point is 00:42:01 looking in the house and like, what can I hydrate these things with? So I don't dry them out too much. And Doug's like, well, you could use beer. And I'm like looking in the house and like, what can I hydrate these things with so I don't dry them out too much? And Doug's like, well, you could use beer and I'm like, oh, that's a cool one. We have plenty of them. Okay, I'll take some credit. You do, you do. I mean, so, because that was my one fear was that they were going to get dried out too much

Starting point is 00:42:16 because I didn't have anything to kind of, you know, base them in a rehydrate them throughout the smoke. You know, that long of a smoke without having anything to hydrate it with, it could dry it out a little bit. So Doug said the beer, but I didn't want a really heavy beer taste, so I didn't do a lot. It did just enough to keep it dry. What kind of beer?

Starting point is 00:42:34 That 808 beer we had in the refrigerator? Is it 805? 805, yeah. 805, sorry, you don't even know my beers, right? So yeah, whatever, we have all this beer in that refrigerator because people have stayed at our house, and then we just, none of us drink beer. None of us drink beer, right? Yeah, so it's like piled up so that's perfect. So I use that and I had this seasoning from from kinders that I use

Starting point is 00:42:52 I think that's how you pronounce it right is it can they pronounce their kinders? It was a maple it was a like a Maple seasoning, but it has things like brown sugar like that in it Which is something I would know I'd you normally use that brown sugar with butter and honey to when I do the foil. So the way it looked is I seasoned it with the kinders, smoked for about two, two and a half hours at like a two, two, 20, 225.

Starting point is 00:43:17 After that I pulled off, when I pulled them off, I wrapped them in foil. It's obviously seasoned them again, and then I took some carry gold butter to kind of melt over the top of it, and then did a little bit of the beer, and then I drizzled real lightly honey, sealed them back up in the foil, flipped them upside down,

Starting point is 00:43:36 so that it's kind of marinating and all that, and then cooked them for the next three and a half or a half. Here's a deal with grass-fed meats, is that when you get the grain-fed stuff, it's a deal with like grass fed meats, is that, you know, when you get the grain fed stuff, it's like more palatable, obviously it's got more fats. But here's what I will say, their ribs are the best ribs. They're actually, okay, so. They're way better than the,

Starting point is 00:43:55 Well, especially if you cook them for a long time. I was excited about, you know, how well they turned out myself, consider, I didn't have all the things I wanted. So I did them again for Fourth of July, but I didn't have the butcher box. I had to use the, one of the safe way I wanted. So I did them again for Fourth of July, but I didn't have the butcher box. I had to use one of the Safeway one. So I had one butcher box, and the butcher box,

Starting point is 00:44:10 butcher box one, way better. Way better. Yeah. Now these are pork ribs. You know what, their pork is incredible. Yeah, it's the heritage pork. So tasty. Yeah, which is interesting to me because being completely

Starting point is 00:44:21 transparent when you eat grass-fed beef in comparison to your grain-fed beef, I don't like the taste that much better. I mean, it tastes healthy and it's good, but it's not as rich and marbly as beef-fed. Sure. But with the pork, and maybe you can explain to me the difference

Starting point is 00:44:38 between the butcher box heritage pork versus what you would get the grocery store. Cause I don't know. I don't know. I don't really know. I know heritage pork. You know, Doug? I don't. Oh, that's. I don't know. I know heritage pork. You know, Doug? I don't.

Starting point is 00:44:47 Oh, that's how funny nobody knows. I know it's really what I love. I know they raise it. It's a different. They exactly. It sounds important. It tastes better. Yes.

Starting point is 00:44:56 So it tastes significantly better than the pork. And it's like, so one of the tricks about ribs too, is having the bone straight and even so it cooks even because it's such a long cook. It's easy to have one side cooked perfect and then because this is kind of fattier or it's turned and thicker, this will be way different because the longer a cook like that, the more discrepancy there is in the meat size and everything from one end to the other in the bone can really change how perfect the whole rack is.

Starting point is 00:45:25 So you want a rack that is almost identical so that when you pull off in six hours, it's a nice even cook everywhere. And I actually, but your box, they're beautiful. They're always perfect. And the hardest thing when you're at the grocery store, one of the hardest things you can do is to find multiple racks that look identical. What you end up having to do is cutting probably a good portion off to try and make them look like that.

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Starting point is 00:46:54 If you look up the studies on isometrics, right? And the value of isometrics and how it helps you connect to muscle, so you can fire it better. And oftentimes, isometrics are done in these studies without any outside forces. So you're just flexing essentially, like what a body builder would do on stage. And if you look at the old school bodybuilders, this was actually a part of the routine. I know Arnold would talk about posing for an hour a day,

Starting point is 00:47:24 something like that, pre-contest before the show. And he said it would bring out definition and in quality, he said to his muscles. This one hundred percent has value. So yes, there's definitely an ego portion, right? You're flexing for the mirror here. But I tell you what, if you know how to hit, here's a good example. If you know how to hit a good back pose where you can activate your lats and flare them and flex them, it's gonna be much easier to feel your lats when you do an exercise like a row. Well, this is how I teach if there's not any good solid connection,

Starting point is 00:47:57 my muscle connection there in the chest even, I'll slow it down and just pause in that position to squeeze and gain that neuromuscular connection because it's so valuable that way because when you slow down and you're able to kind of feel your way to activation of the muscle, that isometrics are beautiful for that. I always wonder when I was competing if that was like the origin of it, right? Like if somebody actually really had the smarts to know that what he was doing or she, if it was a girl that was starting to do this first, right?

Starting point is 00:48:30 Like if it was, my intention was to fire the CNS, get better connected. That's why I'm flexing in the gym all day long. Or if it was really something that was more self-absorbed, I like the way it looks. I mean, I always wondered that. I know I know that. Shicken or the egg, huh? We talk about this a lot. We talk about the importance of the central it looks. I mean, I always wondered that. I know that chicken or the egg. We talk about this a lot. We talk about the importance of the central nervous system.

Starting point is 00:48:48 We talk about being able to be connected to a muscle. If you can, if you can with no resistance flex every muscle on your body. I guarantee that you can train it better than someone who gets it. That's control. Yeah. So that is a fact. So there is extreme value there. If you can on command, if I can look at you, say, sal flex your right peg or squeeze your left flat.

Starting point is 00:49:07 If you have the ability to just like that flex or activate that, I guarantee that you have a much easier time building that muscle inside the gym. Totally. Now, to answer your question, it was the isometrics that came first. Tension-based exercises have been around as long as we've known about resistance training. It's been practiced for a very, very long time as a way to improve strength and performance. Later on, bodybuilding included a posing round. So what they actually used to do in these shows is you would come out and do some kind

Starting point is 00:49:38 of a feat of strength, usually involving gymnastics or some kind of a strong man event. Then there was a second round where you can bring that back. You can't bring that back. Yeah, right. You can imagine these 300 pound bodybuilders doing some kind of like gymnastics. something like a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, a golf ball, Tom Platz was known for his incredible flexibility. Yeah, but anyway, it's, there's definitely value to it. And what's funny is the bodybuilding poses, the compulsory bodybuilding poses, actually,

Starting point is 00:50:12 if you do them right, are excellent at activating pretty much every single muscle. Every single muscle, you have the front double bicep, the back double bicep, the front lat spread, the back lat spread, you have the, the, you know, hands around the neck, ab pose, which is actually more of a quad pose, most muscular, like all of the poses that you find

Starting point is 00:50:31 in bodybuilding, even the rotating ones which are in compulsory, they're excellent for connecting people. Even before bodybuilding, you had Charles Atlas and you had his program that was bodyweight based, but it was all just isometric flexing, I mean, for the most part. This skill also gives you the ability to change exercises.

Starting point is 00:50:50 So you can do an exercise to one person may look at and go like, oh, that's for your traps or oh, that's for your rear delts. And you can actually change what you're trying to focus on because you have that ability. Totally. Like, when I go into an exercise, I can take the same exercise and it could be something that was designed for my rhomboids, but I could be using it for my rear delts.

Starting point is 00:51:10 Or you could be doing something that's like a major back exercise, but you're really trying to isolate and focus on the lat. So you can do movements that are traditionally for something else, but then work. I mean, just like a close grip bench press, right? When you are trying to work the triceps, you can really make that be more tricep

Starting point is 00:51:30 than chest and shoulders. But if you don't know how to think about that while you do the movement, it becomes a lot of chest and shoulder still. It's still a chest and shoulder movement because of what you're doing. But if you have that ability to contract and flex the tricep on command like that

Starting point is 00:51:43 because you've practiced that, then you can go into a movement that has just shoulder and triceps and you can make it more triceps like you're trying to do. Yeah, like how about a supinated grip chin up? I can make that a back or a bicep. Or bicep. Like big time bicep. Bicep. Yeah, I'll tell you what, when you look at priming, like we talk about priming all the time,

Starting point is 00:52:05 priming really is a much more individualized, advanced, and effective way of just connecting to muscle. Flexing essentially is what priming is if we were to make it really, really general. So definitely there's a value to flexing. In fact, especially if you have a weak body part, flexing it in between sets, and at the end of your workout, should make a difference. Well, that's all resistance training is flexion of the muscles with some sort of resistance.

Starting point is 00:52:33 That's all it is. You are flexion muscle, and that resistance can be weights, like barbell stuff, it could be cables, it could be bands. I mean, that's all resistance training really is, is flexion of the muscle with some sort of resistance. Next question is from Fulvio the castle. What's the best way to increase core strength and performance?

Starting point is 00:52:53 Okay, so since performance was included in this, I'm gonna avoid the kind of aesthetic exercises, because you could definitely do exercises that develop the muscles like a bodybuilder, really get them to look really great. And then there's performance, which means, how well does my core perform in lots of different movements? I mean, most movements involve the core to some degree.

Starting point is 00:53:15 So when we're talking about performance, really it's about stabilization, it's about keeping the core stable, it's about transferring energy. Can I use my legs and my upper body and have the core transfer that energy very well? Because if you'll notice if you run or walk, there's this kind of counter pendulum that happens. Cross sectioning sort of pattern. Yeah, so I like rotational exercises. I like what is it called? Counter or anti-rotation exercises, stabilization movements where I'm holding and stabilizing explosive

Starting point is 00:53:48 you know, medicine ball slams and throws. I mean, those are really going to give you phenomenal core performance in terms of athletics and being able to move. I think you have to break down a little bit more exactly the difference between, because strengthening and performance are different goals. So if you came at me and you said, I just want to build strength in my core, the training routine would look different than if you came to me and said, I want to have performance in my core. Like when I think performance, I think of speed, acceleration, control, stability, explosiveness,

Starting point is 00:54:19 rotational strength, all those, that's all performance driven, right? I want to be able to have this stable, strong, explosive, reactive, controlled core. And then if you say I want to have a strong core, like it's building strength, just like it's building strength in quads or biceps or any other muscle. So it's a different adaptation. Now, there's carryover from each to both of them, right?

Starting point is 00:54:39 If you have, if you never trained your core and you get stronger, you're gonna have some performance benefits. And you also, if you trained for performance benefits, you're gonna have some performance benefits. And you also, if you trained for performance benefits, you're gonna get some strength benefits from it. But they are different adaptations we're trying to go after here. Well, I know in terms of performance,

Starting point is 00:54:53 a couple exercises just for like sort of a visual that come to mind are like chops, like wood chops or like upward chops or, you know, like just rotating across your body with either your hips being an anti-rotational, stabilized position or rotating with you. So there's both of those elements to it where I like to be able to compartmentalize that.

Starting point is 00:55:17 So a lot of times in athletics, you need to be able to have like a nice stable base in order to produce ground forces, but also you need your upper body to be able to rotate, you know, ferociously. And you'll see that a lot in, you know, in baseball, you'll see that a lot, you know, when you're hitting, you know, a baseball or, you know, you're throwing a punch or, you know, how to generate that kind of force from the ground through your legs, you know, be able to anchor your hips and then be

Starting point is 00:55:42 able to drive and take that momentum through your arms. So what I'm hearing from both of you guys is that if someone came to you with this specific question that I want core strength and I want performance, it sounds like you both would go, I'm going to focus on performance because I know that I'm going to get some strength because both the exercises you guys are recommending right now are more performance-based. Yeah, and I would say strength is very specific. So, okay, I want a stronger core for what? You just want to be able to look at it or more reps with a high resistance exercise, like a leg raise or a decline sit up or just stable in a squat and a deadlift.

Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah, performance, I tend to think more of sports that, you know, football, baseball, tennis, those types of sports. But yeah, I mean, strength is just, it's very specific. Like I can get very strong with a decline set up with resistance and really activate my core, have a good strong stable core. But we terrible at throwing a ball. Yeah, because there's a lot of technique, skill, and speed that's involved in that.

Starting point is 00:56:43 So, you know, and this is, By the way, it's a good attribute. It is awesome to train your core. We have the No BS6 pack formula, which is really an aesthetic based, and strength based app in core program. Really developed to build the apps so they're more visible. There's carry over there. If you want athletic and sports performance, train your core like an athlete. Well, that's where I would lean you to. Okay. So perfect example, no BS6 spec abs, more

Starting point is 00:57:08 strength-based core stuff in there, maps performance, more, more, more. Yeah. You started the foundation of the strength, right? To be able to gain that control, but really stabilizing the spine. So, you know, being able to do that on command is the first step, because you need to be able to be anchored and be grounded where you are, and be strong in that position, whatever it is. And then the performance to me is now adding a lot more variables to that where things need to rotate, things need to anti-rotate, and how you're able to kind of put all that together is performance. Next question is from W of the tree yogi. Are food intolerances self-induced or not?

Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, that's the million dollar question. Yeah, right? Yeah, so more often than not, which is a question. Yeah, so I mean, food intolerance is like what causes them? So one thing that might cause them is you have inflammation in the gut, the junctions between the, I guess the cells that line the gut, because remember the gut really isn't in your body.

Starting point is 00:58:08 So think of it this way. Think of like a donut, right? The hole inside the donut isn't in the donut. It's actually on the outside of the donut, the donut just surrounds the hole. So when you eat food, it goes through the body, think of it that way. It's not in your body until it's absorbed.

Starting point is 00:58:22 And what allows it to absorb, we're coming to the body, or it's very. And what allows it to absorb, or come into the body, or it's very complicated, but the wall of the gut and the intestines allows things to move through. Well, if it's inflamed, particles can go through when they're not supposed to, and over time your body might recognize

Starting point is 00:58:38 these particles as foreign invaders, develop kind of an immune response, and blingo, blingo, you have an immune response to food that you eat all the time. So that's one common popular explanation. You also could have food intolerances because of SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. You could have an histamine intolerance as a result of it.

Starting point is 00:58:57 So now you're eating foods that are high in histamine, like bone broth, for example, which is supposed to be good for your gut, but all of a sudden it's causing problems. So I would say probably a lot of it is self-induced, but then there's ones that we just, I mean, could you consider, I guess, lactose intolerance to being born with allergies. Well, I was going to say, yeah, what about things? Would you guys subscribe to the idea that, like, epigenetics are playing a huge role here? So let's say, like, what's expressed? I mean, I definitely think there's things where

Starting point is 00:59:26 if your family came from the Mediterranean and there's generations of generations of eating certain types of foods, your body has just, and you've, that's been passed down from your dad, it just agrees with a lot of that food. And then when you go outside of that, I think that I see, at least in my experience with clients,

Starting point is 00:59:42 right, when they go outside of those things that their, their families have been eating for generations on generations, I feel like they're more likely to be intolerant to those. I feel like some people are more susceptible to it than others in terms of like having that kind of genetic predisposition. There may be something underlying there,

Starting point is 01:00:00 but a lot of times some people, they don't really get to the point where they feel the consequences. Yeah. The clearest example of that is lactose intolerance. So if you look at like northern Europeans, right, is in African-Americans extremely high too.

Starting point is 01:00:15 Right. So if you look at northern Europeans, they have a very high tolerance for lactose, right? Of course. Yeah. And it's because for they've been drinking milk probably for thousands of years longer than most places, right? As you go further south in Europe, you start to see lactose intolerance go up in Africa. You see Lots of lactose intolerance except for certain areas. Yes, there's tribes that drink milk. Oh, yeah There's there's regions of Africa where they have tremendously good lactose tolerance

Starting point is 01:00:42 So that's a good example of how our genes kind of, play a role in how we tend to tolerate food. Now here's a challenge with that, Adam, is especially nowadays, and especially in Western countries, very rarely we find someone whose lineage is so like one area. Like my family's all from Southern Italy. So it's easy for me to be like, okay Mediterranean.

Starting point is 01:01:04 But most people are like, yeah, I have a little bit of, yeah, Swedish, I have a little bit of this and a little bit of that in me. And so then it's, so I think you really just kind of test it out for yourself and see how you feel. But that's the clearest one.

Starting point is 01:01:16 That's the one that's most studied where we can see clearly, oh, people from this area tend to have 20% of them are lactose intolerant whereas people from here are 5%. Right. What are... Next question is from Jack Michael. What are some good high protein or just healthy meal or snack ideas for someone on a college budget?

Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, yes, that's just a while. You know, there's a myth that if you're on a budget, you can't eat a diet that is conducive for building muscle and being lean. That is totally false. In fact, every college student or person that I've worked with this challenge, oftentimes when I look at what they're eating, I'm like, you're eating out, you know, four times a week or once a day. Like, why don't we try removing that?

Starting point is 01:01:59 And then Starbucks on top of that, which is $7, $8. Yes. Who's the super jack black dude with the, where's the crazy gold glasses and stuff like that? which is $78. Who's the super jack black dude with the, where's the crazy gold glasses and stuff like that? He did this thing. Is it the crazy muscle? Oh, a coley muscle? Yeah, yeah, that guy.

Starting point is 01:02:11 He did the thing of like top ramen and jack chicken thighs. Yeah. You could get jacked off of that. Now, I don't think that's the most ideal diet for people, but I do think that there is this myth that eating healthy is so expensive because I think what we do is we compare safe way to whole foods. And then everyone's just like,

Starting point is 01:02:29 I'll hold food, you've been to, well, okay, yeah. But if there's ways for you to buy, buy from farmers markets, there's ways for you to buy in bulk for things like chicken thighs that you can get and you can have a very. For our own meat. Yeah, like come on, it's cheap.

Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah, dude, stop buying the aged prime rib, you know, at the whole food's like, literally bulk ground beef, rice, frozen vegetables, like, like you have, that right there covers quite a bit. So you could buy bulk ground beef, you could buy bulk chicken thighs or chicken breasts, canned fish, so tuna fish is very inexpensive. You could buy rice, which is one of the least expensive foods on the planet, very easily

Starting point is 01:03:07 digestible source of carbohydrates, potatoes, very inexpensive, certain fruit, very inexpensive. Frozen vegetables. Frozen vegetables are very easy, very inexpensive. You buy a bag of broccoli, that's frozen or a bag of asparagus, that's frozen, and there you go. And you actually will save money. You'll actually save money eating this way, and it's healthy and it's conducive. I think this question gets asked too a lot because of how much we promote organic whole natural foods. And I think we've talked about this a long time ago.

Starting point is 01:03:36 We haven't talked about this in a while, that if we had an order of operation here, right, of like what's most important, organic food isn't number one, right? So I think what's most important? Organic food isn't number one, right? So I think that's something to be clear about. Like if I had a kid who just absolutely every 10 cents difference makes counts, and I'm trying to get him from eating McDonald's and fast food off the 99 sent menu and you want to build muscle or you want to be fit, you know, regular ground beef that's not organic, that's fine.

Starting point is 01:04:05 And I'm not saying that that's ideal or where I, or what I even eat. But if it came down to, I've got a choice with this kid who's broke that I can't, I can't buy, I'm just trying to find money under his, you know, couch or something, then yeah. Organic food doesn't come above eating balanced good diet. Correct.

Starting point is 01:04:23 Balance good diet is a higher priority, even if it's not organic before that. You're right. But I will say this, nowadays, grass feds are not bad. The market has grown so much that you actually get pretty good prices, you could look out for good deals. Butcherybox, a company that we work with. Great prices for grass fed type of meats,

Starting point is 01:04:43 but yeah, at the end of the day, I mean, literally, buy in bulk, ground beef, chicken thighs, chicken breasts, buy in bulk rice, buy in bulk, frozen vegetables, some fruit, you are set, you are good, you have nothing to worry about, and you'll actually save money. I promise you, you'll save money doing it this way,

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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1593: How Flexing Can Help Build Muscle, Inexpensive High Protein Snacks & Meals, Ways to Increase Core Strength & More

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