Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1599: How to Get Past the Mental Hurdle of Eating More to Speed Up the Metabolism, Ways to Regain Strength & Athleticism After a Layoff, The Best Training to Improve Sports Performance & More

Episode Date: July 17, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. The Mind Pump x NCI coaching experience. (3:48) How tech could impact the fitness industry. (12:51) The Airbnb of rental cars. (22:38) The incredible journey of your child’s early growth. (27:22) Mind Pump speculates on the future of autonomous cars, celebrities in politics, and virtual reality. (30:53) How Mind Pump vacations. (39:52) #Quah question #1 – How can I gain my functional strength and athleticism back after going through appendicitis surgery? (49:28) #Quah question #2 – How would you go about pursuing a side split, while training for strength? (55:21) #Quah question #3 – How can I get my wife over the mental aspect of increasing calories, bulking, while pursuing building strength? (1:01:39) #Quah question #4 – What are some specific exercises or mobility movements that I can do to gain more distance on the golf course? (1:10:47) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] July Promotion: MAPS HIIT and the No BS 6-Pack Formula 50% off!  **Promo code “JULYSPECIAL” at checkout** NCI Certifications x Mind Pump Visual AI for instant, accurate damage appraisal | Tractable Tractable raises $60M at a $1B valuation to make damage appraisals using AI Zipcar The Airbnb of Cars: Use Turo to Save on Your Car Rental Turo | Find the perfect car on the world's largest car sharing marketplace Idiocracy (2006) - IMDb How Roblox is setting the stage for more and more concerts Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Fitness Anabolic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Fitness Prime Pro | Muscle Adaptation Programming System COSSACK SQUAT - Increase Mobility & Leg Strength (TRY THIS SQUAT) - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1565: Why Women Should Bulk Add Windmills to Your Workout to Increase Your Deadlift Strength – Mind Pump TV Stop Working Out And Start Practicing - Mind Pump Media Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition)  Instagram Jordan Syatt (@syattfitness)  Instagram Craig Capurso (@craigcapurso)  Instagram Kelly Starrett (@thereadystate)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. You know this is Mind Pump, right? In today's episode, we answered live questions. So people actually called in and we helped them out with their fitness. By the way, if you ever wanna be on our show live,

send your question and your story to live at mindpumpmedia.com. All right, so we opened the episode with an intro. Today's intro was about 48 minutes long. After that, we got to the questions. In the intro, we talk about things that current events and scientific studies and we tell stories.

So let me give you a rundown of today's podcast. We opened up by talking about Justin's training call with NCI. So NCI is a company that makes great certification courses for online coaches, fitness trainers, very valuable. And now we are working with them and doing these mastermind classes, which are actually very inexpensive, but very valuable, where trainers and coaches can ask this question in person

or over the phone. It's pretty cool. Go check them out. There's a mind pump hookup if you're interested. So head over to ncicertifications.com forward slash mind pump. And you'll see some of the current offers through mine pump. Then we talked about tractable, a new company with a $1 billion valuation kind of interesting.

We talked about car sharing services. We congratulated Adam, his son turns two years old as of the recording of the podcast. We made some speculations on the future. One of the great things about these recorded podcasts is people are gonna listen to them in the future. And be like, see how right we really are. Look how cool they were.

And then we talked about our trip to Hawaii, how much alcohol we're probably going to drink, and why Zeebiotics is a great invention, it's going to save us. This is a company that we work with, and they make these probiotic drinks that are genetically modified. In other words, these are specific bacteria that you only find in Zeebiotics. And what you do is you drink them and then you drink alcohol. And what these bacteria do is they actually break down the negative byproducts of alcohol. So what does this mean? This means you drink and you feel great the next day in comparison to how you normally

would feel. Ladies and gentlemen, this stuff is very effective. That's why we work with them. Go check them out. Head over to zbiotics.com. That's zbiotis.com forward slash mind pump and get 10% off your first order. Then we got to the question. So the first person we talked to was Audrey from Pennsylvania.

This person had some surgery. They were a personal trainer. I want to know how to get back into fitness. The next question was from Brian from New Hampshire. X professional hockey player wants to grow his butt. Believe it or not, his girlfriend said he had flat butt and wants to be flexible again. Like he used to be. Yeah, he can't have a flat butt. So wanted his our advice.

The next question was from George from North Carolina. This person is wanted some advice for his wife. He thinks she should go on a bulk to build more muscle, but she's reluctant because she's afraid of gaining weight. So we helped him out there. Then we talked to Eric from California, and this person is focused on getting stronger, but notices that their golf game isn't improving.

So once they know what they can do to improve their golf performance, so again, we give them help there. Also, this month, we are running a sale and a promotion. Maps hit and the no BS 6 pack formula are both 50% off. Go check them out at mapsfitinistproducts.com. Just use the code JulySpecial for that discount. You're doing the NCI masterclass coaching. Yeah, I'm doing the masterclass tonight,

so I'm actually pretty excited about it. I was gonna ask you about it because I know you're the only one in the group so far that has done one of these, like how did it all go? Okay, so little context, right? So this is, these are trainers and coaches who sign up to get more intensive personal coaching

to make them better coaches and trainers. Okay. So Jason Phillips is the founder of NCI, it's a company that we work with that does these online coaching certification courses. Very, very good. So the only personal training type certification company that we actually aligned with or work with.

Because we like them a lot. Education wise. Yes, we like what they do. So anyway, he heads it and he asked us to do these courses once a week. So one of us will be on there once a week. And essentially what it is is Jason asked me a bunch of questions, and I'll answer him and talk about, like, he would ask me questions about like What's the most important attribute of a successful

Personal trainer, right? So I talked about for you know, I've talked about this before the show effective communication So I talk about why that's important and so we go into all that and then at the end There's you know, I want to say there was about 60 trainers and coaches that were on there. At the end, they get to ask me questions. They were asking things like, one person asked me, how do you get, if you have a client who doesn't want to listen to what you're telling them to do, how do you get them to comply? You slide to them. That's good.

That's good. No, and I told them, the early trainer version of me would have said this, but this You slide too much. Yeah, that's good. For some. Yeah. No, and so, you know, and I told them the early trainer version of me would have said this, but this is what the older wiser experience version of me, which is that's fine. If they're showing up to the workouts, that's more than what they were doing before. You inform them, you coach them, you train them, you be honest with them, but then it's up to them and you can't force somebody. But that doesn't mean you kick them out the door.

I used to have this mentality, and I know a lot of new trainers have this mentality, which is if you don't do what I say, and if you don't get in shape, you can't train with me. Everybody has the same amount of time in a day, right? You're not really serious. Yeah, and you're just not really. I was so guilty of you.

If you really want to help people, the people that need the most help, or the ones that have the most challenges with that. You know, the reason why I think that's so prevalent in the space is because it works temporarily. It's kind of like leading from with fear, right? Like, like, leaders and managers that do that, like, if you don't do your job, you're going to get fired. You know, you get temporary buy-in. Yeah, you get temporary buy-in on that.

And so I think there's this, I think the feedback loop that you get as a trainer is that, oh, I do this and yeah, my client shows up and they bring the heat the next time, but what you don't realize is that you're not changing behaviors in them, you're not building a new lifestyle with them, you're not changing the relationship they have with that type of relationship.

They're not changing ownership of it, they're just doing it out of based off of fear. Yeah, purely out of fear. Just's like, if I don't. If I don't long-term success with it. Yeah, no. They drop off or they become part of the statistic. The 85 to 90% of people who lose weight and then gain it back, which is, you know,

that's almost everybody. Well, I saw some of the subject that we're gonna cover and it did look pretty fun. Oh, you see it ahead of time. Yeah, I mean, I talked to him a little bit ahead of time. I just kind of wanted to get a heads up of like what I was gonna cover and like, you know, how to find your niche and, you know, like some of those characteristic traits that make a good coach and things like that. So, yeah, I'll be exciting to kind of, you know, see where the conversation leads and see what kind of

questions I get. My favorite part about all this is, and I haven't had a chance to go. I think I go next Wednesday is when I go, is, and I haven't had a chance to go. I think I go next Wednesday is when I go. When Jason's been trying to get me and us to do this for some time now, and one, we're extremely busy, two, we are so resistant to the mastermind-esque type of group that we didn't want anything like that. And I remember when he came to me, I mean, I'll never forget because I drove here really, I was on the phone with him for like an hour, loved what he was doing. I was, I think it was on a weekend or a day

when I was supposed to not be here and I called you guys, you know, I'm in the studio still, I said, I'm gonna come down, I wanna talk to you guys. I remember. And I came down here and said, listen to how Jason wants to do this

and tell me you guys don't love this idea. And the way he structured it is just, it's awesome because my concern, my knock on these mastermind groups is you pay tens of thousands of dollars to be involved in this quote unquote mastermind group. And most of them are just teaching you how to start your own mastermind group and do the same damn thing. And it's basically like a pyramid scheme.

Not a ton of value. Yeah, not a ton of value on learning how to build a business and expensive. And this is $1,000 for a year. I mean, that's crazy. And these people have access to one of us, Doug, Doug's gonna be on there, Justin, you, Sal, myself, and Jason, every single week

where they get to interact and ask business questions. And then they have a private form where they interact with each other and us and then also start to set up. So what I foresee happening is the initial kind of conversations we all have for the first month or two and then after they kind of get to know

what everybody tends to. Oh yeah, the questions will probably get more specific. Yes, each person. That's what I think is going to. And then I think that's where the tremendous value will come out. Because I think a lot of people don't even know what each one of us kind of specialise in within the business because we don't always talk about that. And people know our personalities from the show.

But who does what in the business? And I think as they start to learn that, it'll start to drive better questions to ask each one of us. And so I'm really excited about it. And I love the idea of, you know, to provide that much value for that lower price. I mean, I would charge more for a one-hour phone call by myself just by itself, right? More than $150.

And I mean, it was charging more than that for a one hour session. So the fact that these people have access every week to one of us in addition to Jason, in addition to the private form and all of the coaching tools that he has, I love it. I think it's tremendous value. Yeah, trainers will and coaches will always have a special place for us. So that's what we did. That's what we did for decades. That's what we still are. I mean, if you ask me, you know, what I am on my core, that's still, you know, what I am, we just do it, we do it through now through a different medium.

And I've said this so many times, that I really believe this, like the people that have, well, generally speaking, the answers to the health problems that we're facing, which are monumental. I don't wanna make light of this, like obesity in all of the umbrella issues that come, because that's an umbrella term, all the issues that come under it, and diabetes, and Alzheimer's, and, you know, there was a statistic you just talked about how type two diabetes

is exploding among children, which is crazy. I remember when I first got certified back in 1997, they called type two diabetes adult onset diabetes because kids didn't get it. That's in 1997. Today, so many kids are getting it now. Well, first of all, kids started getting like crazy because they changed their name.

Well, and you say getting it. So people think like you catch it like it's a disease. No, no, you develop it through your lifestyle. That's what I think is important. You clarify that. It's a model to that. Because if you don't understand that, you go like, oh, that's so weird.

Like it was a disease that only adults can't just to decades ago, but now it's kept. Kids are so unhealthy that they change the name of an adult onset diabetes, it's type two diabetes, and it's exploding. And so what does this all mean? All these problems are extremely expensive. They're, and for the society,

they destroy innovation. They've course quality quality life is terrible. I mean, there's all these downstream effects. So this is a big problem. The solution to that problem isn't found in any industry except for the fitness and health industry. We're the only ones that actually have the real, I'm not saying the whole fitness and health industry

because I think a big chunk of it contributed to that problem. But if you want the answers, that's where we're going to find it. And then if we really narrow it down, who in the fitness and health industry has the answers, who really will make the real impact, who can actually solve this real world? It's coaches and trainers. So they're the ones on the front lines. It's an extremely rewarding job.

It's extremely rewarding job. It's extremely rewarding career, but it is also a challenging career to build and do successfully. So things are very important to learn how to do it from people who've done it before, because I know a lot of people who were very passionate about helping people, they just couldn't stick it out. Because it's...

Well, that's what we see, that's why we're so passionate about doing whatever we can to show the gyms or to talk to coaches and trainers as much as possible to see if, you know, if they haven't heard ways that they can better optimize their business and take on their business, you know, way where they're going to be able to monetize it and be able to keep it going because I think a lot of times, you know, we get so passionate about helping people, going because I think a lot of times, you know, we get so passionate about helping people, but Lucite of how to keep that sustainably going

and get revenue out of it. Now, have you guys seen stuff that's coming at like A.I.Y.s and tech-wise, it's like entering our space that's really starting to change the game? I asked this question, I was reading an article, I think this company, I think it's, I wanna say it's tractable, was the name. Oh, I've seen the gym pass one, have you seen that? Or you can basically use this.

This is cool. Yeah, you get, I forget the name of it, but basically you have like this, this gym pass that you pay a monthly subscription fee and you can go into like a golds or you can go into like a UFC gym or you go to so many different types of gyms. Brilliant. So it's like the gold pass for California when it with the ski resorts. Brilliant. So it's like the gold pass for California with the ski resorts. Okay. So there's, but now how do they do that? Because UFC is not affiliated with gold.

They have to have the... Yeah, exactly. They pay them a percentage or something. A percentage and I'm sure. I don't think it's unlimited. I don't think you can get the gym pass and then go work out at the same UFC gym all the time. I think there's a certain amount of visits,

if I'm not mistaken, but nonetheless, it's very smart. Very, very interesting. I'm sure that's gonna take off more as my point. I think it's a brilliant idea, just probably that needs more awareness so they can get more people using it and, you know, GMC value in it. Yeah, now you said something, what did you say?

Oh, I was just talking about this, it has nothing to do with fitness, but it's what made me, because I was, it was like a I think it was tractable. This company contractable and it got a $1 billion evaluation and they were taking on 50 or $60 million or something. And it's actually like for insurance companies and it's just going to completely flip and change how insurance is done because it's all done through. It's basically appraisals

through your phone. So the we can walk around the car and it'll see the damage that's done to a car and it'll easily calculate like based off the car model, this like that, give you, so yeah, it's gonna, appraises appraisals and adjusters that come out for cars. Like that's a big process, right? If you get in a car accident, they send out, the insurance company sends out an adjuster,

adjuster comes out, gives their appraisal on what it'll be. It's like a whole process to do that and this app makes you do that all, it does it all virtually and instantaneously give you that. So, brilliant. And I just think, man, you know, I'm seeing this stuff all the time come out in the space. And I feel like the fitness space is always so behind to come out with tech to support what we're doing. Yeah, the thing that I could see that would really,

that might potentially have a huge impact, would be something that, because now they have those what continue with glucose monitors, right? So you put it on, and it measures your glucose response kind of in real time. So you know how you respond to certain foods and stuff. I would love to see something like that, that measures metabolism in real time,

measures glucose in real time, inflammatory markers in real time. Then you go on your phone, and it's also connected to restaurants and food and it literally will tell you, here eat this meal at 600 and something calories because you're burning this many right now with your metabolism and it's got this many carbs

because this is your, and it literally just tells you what to do when to do it. Now I don't think that's a long-term solution, but I could see a lot of people doing that and getting incredible results. I think coaching a real life. I think we are not too far off from being able to sit down and eat, and as you're eating the food,

your iPhone watches like the macros are filling up. So you could look, so like it's a, you'll be able to eat. Like each bite? Yes, like you'll be able to, you know, or maybe as the plate, like maybe you'll be able to, take a screenshot, chip in your mouth. Maybe you'll be able to, you know, or maybe as the plate, like maybe you'll be able to take a screenshot, get a chip in your, maybe you'll be able to screenshot the plate. And then so when you clean the plate off, it'll automatically go, it'll know I scan the food, but I don't think

we're that far. Actually, that, that sounds like you should be able to do that. They have some things that are some, some, some, like a screenshot and it'll calculate. Yeah, I don't know how accurate those are yet, but I think that when we get that down to where it's gonna be that easy, where someone could look at their iPhone and go and see if there are plus or minus on their calories for their day, what a cool accountability tool for somebody who's getting ready to go sit down

and eat the restaurant, they're like, oh wow, I only have like two or three of those calories. Ah, I'm frustrated because I can't remember the guys name that we befriended and we brought them in here to the studio before who was working on this Incredibly audacious goal of bringing all the sensors involved with fitness and with nutrition and like organizing it in one platform And then it would basically like give you HRV gives you Glucose monitor like activity level Do you like everything on one panel? Like way more robust than like Apple's health

or Google's health. Oh, not only that, I remember what the way he was building it was to where like, so your glucose monitor would show like what restaurants would compliment like you were, you're kind of like what you're talking about. Yeah, you're dietary needs. So if these types of foods affect you negatively

and these are the following restaurants, so within a 10 mile radius, work here. Yeah, here's the items on that menu that would work best for you. Yeah, but then it would they would end up partnering with other restaurants and lying. Well, it was a Carl's junior, it really corrupted you.

Well, then the other thing Western beef, the other thing that I always go back to and when it comes to fitness like are all These things just kind of band aids anyways like is is normally the real reason why somebody is severely is obese right because that's a Bate we're not trying to solve somebody getting down to 5% body fatting and shredded because that's the people I think will benefit the most from this like crazy tech I don't think it's the people who really need to work on internal issues, the deal with food. Right, so that's what I'm my point, right?

So the people that are already fitness fanatics, it reminds me of what our buddy Craig, right? When his, and I don't have no idea if this still exists or if he's still trying to get it off the ground. But you know, his programming thing that was like, you know, it was supposed to progressively overload and it's supposed to figure the math out for you. So you just show up to the gym and these exercises.

And it's like, it's so nuanced and so much data you had to input to figure out to get this back. It's like, you have to be a fitness fanatic to even use this tool. And it's like, you're, and you're not really solving the obesity issue that's out there and helping those people. There's the real market. Yeah. I remember- I remember-

Yeah, I remember meeting this lady when we were doing our live events and she was saying that she was going through this school for therapy, but also wanted to be a trainer at the same time and combine both those practices. That would be great. This is brilliant.

I was like, I wonder if there's gonna be a new certification eventually, that will combine both of those different institutions together, because that's what we're always talking about is human behavior is life-icoustic. They might, the problem is when you're talking about therapies, there's so many barriers,

there's a lot of rules and regulations of how much, how many courses you take, how many people you work with, it would be a long process. Unless they call it something else, like they do with like life coaching, or you know, make up, you know, like, you know, there's a name and it doesn't require really any education, so I can't, I'm not a therapist,

but I'm a, you know, I'm a life quality enhancer, whatever, you know. So, you know, I mean, you say that kind of sarcastically, but the truth is, man, you know, who would you rather work with? Somebody who just finished their eight years of their psychology degree, or the person that's worked, who's 65 years old and has worked with.

Oh, I agree. 3,000 people that has no certification. Well, yeah, you know my answer, of course. Absolutely. And if you wanted to do it, and you wanted to say you also did therapy, the laws would require you. Of course. To have certain times. Unfortunately. But I can't think of more complimentary, do it and you wanted to say you also did therapy, the laws would require you.

Of course. To have certain times. Unfortunately. But I can't think of more complimentary, honestly, it's so complimentary to personal training. Oh no, when we were touring around and doing the trainer talks and stuff like that, I remember meeting a trainer who was going through school

and they had a Kinesh major in a minor in psychology. And I don't think you could pick a better, maybe it would be the other way around. A major in psychology, minor in in kines or something would be Even better possibly right because I think you even need more the psychology. I mean looking back now as far as like my career as a trainer I thought the exes anos I thought that all the certifications and the education around kines and stuff would be the answer to being a great trainer And it plays a significant role, don't get me wrong. But I think that the psychology aspect

and behavioral sciences played a much larger impact on the real success of it. Because the problem is in that we don't have access to information. You're right. It's there. I really do feel like there needs to be this intervention of understanding your own behaviors

and how this is affecting everything. This is a complex problem. I think one of the things that contributed to it was the development of suburbs and freeways. If you live in more modern developments, I'd say since the 1950s, which is a lot of America, maybe even before that, you live where there's houses, and if you wanna get anywhere, you have to drive. There's, you don't walk anywhere.

If you look at, by the way, if you look at the health of people that live in cities where it's not conducive to own a car, you see healthier people. Why they just move more. Like, it doesn't make sense to own and drive a car if you live in a metropolitan city where there's no parking, it's all kinds of stuff. So what do you do?

You walk or you take the subway or you have to walk to all these places. That's one, two, activity needs to be a cultural phenomenon. If you go in certain Asian countries and you wake up early in the morning, they have these parks and you see all these people out there practicing Tai Chi or stretching or exercising. Nobody told them to do that. It's a cultural thing. It's like this is just kind of what we do every day. That's the other thing that has to happen. And the third thing that has to happen is we have to destigmatize resistance training because the average person doesn't pick up dumbbells and barbells because they think that's for

bodybuilders. That's just what you do when you want to get big. Not realizing that one hour a week of doing that would give them way more benefit than spending four hours a week doing other forms of exercise. I think that's the four prong kind of. Did you guys see our buddy, you know, Jordan Siett, Marbadi, he moved from New York to Texas. I don't know if you guys know that. I did. Did you see that he's getting his license right now?

I know, he didn't have one. For the first time ever. How wild is that? You're a new one. I know, well, that's, I mean, he grew up, I think most of his life over there, and to your point, you know, you walk everywhere or take a cab or Uber.

You definitely get away with it, New York. Yeah, I just think that's fascinating for something. My brother did that, he moved to San Francisco. He moved out now, so he bought a car, but when he moved there it was like four years ago He sold his car because he never used it and the park it cost him 300 or four bucks a month To park his car. Yeah, he's like this is dumb. I don't even use my car sold it and that was it You have a car for you. I totally get it and and makes total sense to me and so that but personally I I like to drive. Mm-hmm.

If you, if everywhere you go, you can't drive to. No, I mean, yeah, but that's okay everywhere most of the time. Like you can't tell me that you don't drive out of the city sometime. And when he would, which is, you know, how long would he do that twice a month? Exactly. Yeah. He would rent a car. Yeah.

You just rent one of those, actually, I have these, these new apps where you can rent a car. You just rent one of those, actually, have these new apps where you can rent a car. Yeah, what is it called? It's called... Like some personal owner? Oh, you're talking about that one. There's different types of, what they're called, zip cars. There's zip cars, which is like, you know, they give you, there's an app, you go over, there's a code to get in the car.

Oh, no, he was renting it from, it's like, what's it called? Airbnb, but what's it called? Yes, then there's those that are like, Airbnb's for cars, and you can actually rent like someone's BMW. He was doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

Because a lot of people over there, their cars weren't doing shit during the week or on the weekend, so he's like, he'd go on, and it was cheap. That mean, because it's just sitting there, think about it, if you own a car, and you're not using it ever on the weekend, you would, I wonder what that price point has to be a car and you're not using it ever on the weekend. You would love some of the 500 bucks.

I wonder what that price point has to be to be really equitable for the car owner to do that. Yeah, exactly. I don't have to see how that would work. Right, I own this beautiful M5 and I'm not driving it because I live in the city and I have it there, but how much do I need to make to make it work? You can just have my hoopty.

Yeah, right. How much, I'm trying to figure out like, how much would you have to pay me to make it worth. I have my hoopty. Yeah, right. How much, I'm trying to figure out like, how much would you have to pay me to make it worth my a while to let you borrow my car and put a thousand miles on it. I smell like whatever you'd have. Is that a thing right there does? It's called Turo.

It's supposed to be the largest car sharing. Put someone else's car. Yeah, give me a, give me a, give me a Tesla. They're the 2018 Tesla model. Yeah, give me three. Oh wow, it's're the 2018 Tesla model. Yeah, give me three. Oh, wow, it's ranked just like Airbnb's too. We're like the star. $106 a day.

There you go. 20s and there's no, there's got to be a mileage. 206. 206. The mileage limit. Yeah. Let's see. There's got to be a mileage limit.

You can't just 200 to take someone who can drive it all the way down to San Diego and back and we'll be screw you. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like you have to, there's got to be, because the wear and tear in your car, you're making a couple hundred bucks,

but 260 bucks a day is good. That's good. And that's a Tesla. I wonder what like a regular sedan would be. I'm sure Tesla's a little bit more. You think so? Yeah, I would think so. I would think so.

There's more of a luxury. Because it's electric and it's cool. Well, there's a BMW 4 series, that one's how much? $107. $107. That's a 20-16. 20-16, but it looks nice, look at that. Yeah, it's a 4 series, too, is a smaller,

a bit of a bigger BMW with more spinners. That's not very expensive, though. 107 for the day. Yeah. Actually, why don't we rent a car from that place? Well, we always do. No, that's actually a good point. What do we pay for our car that we purchased this ride?

Yeah, we rented a car down in Utah, and it was $300 some dollars, and I drove it from the airport to the hotel, and then we came back the next day from the hotel to the airport. Wow, you guys look as scooter. That was a waste of money. We did that another time too.

Didn't we go somewhere? We rented that jet for time now. Yeah, endeavor. We got two black like SUVs. SUVs. Yeah. That one I can't say same with my fault was this one was my fault. This one was my fault because Jerry asked me she goes, do you want a rental car? Because Brooke is going to pick you and dug up from the airport and I said, you know what? I don't want to be trapped. I said, I don't, so we're gonna be there for two days. I don't have it, but at this point, I haven't met her

in person. I don't know any of these people. I don't like the feeling of feeling trapped, right? So I told her, I said, you know, get it, get it for us and then Doug and I will end up. Now we're going to my parents house. Right. No.

Right, I didn't want that, right? So I said, we'll meet you there, but we ended up having a girl. That's when you fuck up and someone like you're with someone and then you mess up, you answer wrongly. Hey, so what are you doing later? Oh, not really nothing. Oh, cool.

You want to just see why don't you just come with me? Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm doing a lot of things. Yeah, I'm a lot of things. Yeah, I'm a hell of a busy guy. I forgot, yeah. I know, do you think that, because your boys too, he just turned two.

Yeah. That's right, happy birthday to your son. Yeah. Happy birthday, man. By the way, I cannot believe that. boys too, he just turned two. That's right, happy birthday to your son. I can't believe that. By the way, I cannot believe that. This time, okay. Now that you have a kid, does it do you experience this now? Well, it hits hyper drive after one.

So I really do feel like the first six months, it couldn't go fast enough. Like I was like, please, God, get this kid to a place where he can sit up, right? Like I just remember, I remember thinking, I mean, the first, let's, let me back up, the first month amazing, right? Like just eating it up.

You got this new human that you created and it's a little version of you and all he does is sleep on your chest and so I gobbled all out. That's when you were talking shit, by the way. That's my- Oh, it's easy guys, I can totally wrap this. Adam and I, I mean, Justin. That's when you were talking shit, by the way. Right here. Oh, it's easy guys. I got to talk to Adam and I.

I mean, Justin and I look each other like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he didn't cry for like the first week or two. Yeah. Which looking back now, I realized, well, he was a preemie for four weeks. He was still in the world. He was still thought he was a boom.

He was a hop-up on adrenaline. Yeah, you know, you're like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was all in a hide. I was like, that's my first boy and I was like that. So yeah, I was eating it up for like the first month. Just amazing. But then I got cabin fever. it was just like all we do was sit around I mean I watched more television that that six-month so many recommendations. Oh, it's mad at us that we weren't watching these shows

I know I was I was like I burns there's so many series and I was like I could definitely I could have done a side business on reviewing Netflix shows, right? so That was the first month. And then from I would say month two to six, that felt forever. I mean, it really did feel like the Twilight Zone, the same thing. You know, you, you, he's getting up every two hours and feeding and you're just, you're at home all day long and it just, that, that was like, please God, please get to a place for this kid could just sit up and do his own thing for a was like, please God, please get to a place where this kid could just sit up

and do his own thing for a little bit. You know? Yeah, so then it gets to that point, and then it gets really fun because every day almost feels new and a new thing he's learning or his face is changing or he's growing. Yeah, but when you see pictures of him when he was like six months old or four months old,

are you like, oh my god that that was so fat like I felt like a long time ago, but it happened so fast It does feel that way, but I'm so into his age right now that I don't like oh, I missed that like there's like I'm getting Every all your pictures like later. Yeah, I. Yeah, I mean, everything that he, that I liked that he was doing when, because you know a lot of people say this too, like, oh, enjoy. Oh, by the way, I tell you guys this, because when we talk about,

I talk about like wanting to have this bond with Max forever. And like the prevailing thing that everybody says to me is just like, enjoy it while it lasts. You know, like, I got this lady wrote me like the sweetest DM and said, hey, I listen to every episode and I love you. What you guys are doing and I just want you to know you just keep doing what you're doing because my husband and my, you should see and my son, he's 25 years old and they've been

inseparable since birth and he sounds just like you. The way you guys are together and they're the best of friends and many of the family members are jealous of their relationship because they're so bonded and so tight. So, I think she even said, fuck everybody who tells you that, enjoy it while it lasts because you can create that for yourself. You can build that relationship. So anyways, yeah, I hope that continues, right? We have that kind of bond right now

where all the good stuff that I had in the first early months, I'm still getting that right now. That's great, that's crazy, there's two. But I was gonna say, because he's two, my youngest stuff is eight months. So do you think, so your son's gonna be 16 and 14 years, my son will be in about 15 years. Do you think that they'll be by that point driving their own cars?

Or do you think by that point they're gonna it's gonna be a total waste of time to get a license because you're gonna get on an app and And a drive a car is in a drive itself to him and drive them off. I mean we've talked about this before I mean think about that's like 15 years from now. So I could they could theoretically It can happen. Yeah. Well, I think before the autonomous cars happen, I do think companies like Uber are going to figure out the, you know, annual fee to have access to Uber all the time, meaning that they pay a fee and they're unlimited access. That's right. That's right.

So that's already been kind of, they've already kind of mathematically figured it out. And supposedly it's feasible already to make it more cheaper to have this access. Well, it could be hundreds of dollars a month, it would be cheaper than paying for car payment insurance again. That's what I'm saying. So I think they've done the math on like, what is the lower average of a car payment

and insurance for the average person? That's a game changer. What does it cost? And would it be feasible to, if all those same people had a, you know, annual membership to Uber, which basically gives them their card and they can go and use as many rides, whatever they want and do whatever that.

And it would still, it would be a win for both parties. That's brilliant. So I think that before autonomous cars have, and that is most likely going to be in buyer that's longer than we think I well I think it's well the autonomous cars are what I'm saying that's because the car's so I do regulations in government and do we see how everything's getting so crazy like dysfunctional just you know just what they're trying to sift through right now is

insane and to try and introduce innovation, I think we got to clean up a lot of shit. Well, look how long it's taking to move to the electric car direction. I mean, gas should be kind of obsolete with cars when you think about it. I mean, the amount of power that Tesla can generate, how efficient it really is,

we really should convert all that way, but what is- It's still not, it's cost effective to point to the point where people buy electric cars and stuff like that. Yeah, so I do think before we see autonomous cars, I agree with you Justin, I think that's further out. But I do think what I, that sounds pretty reasonable. Yeah, but 15 years is a decent amount of time. Now the challenge is gonna be, how do we have autonomous cars

on the road with people driving cars? That's gonna be the challenge, what that's gonna look like. But 15 years, bro, a lot can change in 15 years. Think about like 15 years ago, think of the, of who's gonna be our president and who's gonna be, you know, the person at the helm that's gonna lead all that. I'm pretty sure that's when the rock will be the president

by the end of the game. Yeah, for sure. The rock, huh? No, no, that's when the aliens come to us. I bank on it. I'm telling sure that's when the rock will be the president by yeah for sure rock no that's when the aliens I bank on telling you right now the rock the I'm gonna call that is in the next the rock yes he's into that and the next decade in a half like you so but by that time I think you just dropped a little celebrity I know it's it's it's it's it's it's a popularity content it is and it's and it's always bit back in the days You used to be who had the most money to be able to get out there and campaign and manipulate the most amount of people With the power of the internet and social media already like can it be a problem solver like in neon Elon Musk kind of guy

You know or girl that because they're not there like making real church. I like enough We don't want smart people, dude. It's stupid. We want likable, decide, you know, people that divide everybody, I think is what we want. I, you know what, it's where it's more and more looking like the movie, Idiocracy. You guys have to see the movie.

It's 100% Idiocracy. I know you still haven't seen that. No, we're decent. We're decent, this guy, this guy's like, he's like, frozen, cryo, you know, cryogenically or whatever. He wakes up and he's in way in the future. And he's a regular like average dude, right? But what ended up happening while he was being frozen was that dumb people had way more kids than smart people. So over time, everybody got really stupid. Yeah. What?

And so you movie or something? No, it's like Mike Judd was Mike Judd was it was he the one that did it? I think so I think it'll be awesome. But yeah, so he comes out and he's a regular guy when he went down in but when he comes out He's brilliant. Yeah, he's genius and the president of the America of the US is this pro wrestler Yeah, and they everybody they're all sponsored everybody sponsored by like all these yeah company What was it called brunt brando or brunt? I don't know. it was this drink that's like, it's got electrolytes and they feed the plants in, they can't figure out why they're cross-dying. They're dying. They're dying. But yeah, he's a pro wrestler president.

I'm like, oh, we're so close. Dude, you know what that was? It's so close to the gallery watch. What you just said reminds me of something. And I think we shared this years ago. When we, remember when we went to the, I took you guys to the Smackdown thing with Craig at the, I surprised you with the tickets to the wrestling.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh my god, I forgot about that. Right, that's the only thing I remember about. Who was that? Craig. Craig, you dropped a blast in us. Be for in that.

Oh yeah, sorry about that. But the thing that you just reminded me of with the president being a wrestler and being sponsored by a horizontal tag, you remember how wild it was to, like I hadn't been to one of those events since I was like a really little kid. And it was so it's evolved a lot.

I mean, they found so many ways to monetize it. I know. That it became this six hour long production. It wasn't like a one hour or two hour type of match like going in, it was like six hours and they had it broken up with all these commercials And they had commercials with brands like Doritos and Pepsi stuff that nobody else gets to see It's just the people in the area because they were wrestlers that are promoting

Yes videos I know I was really fascinated by that there's this this whole other world in there that you don't if you unless you're in it You wouldn't even see those commercials or experiencing that. I was wondering how much money do you think is in that, in the advertising space? And I don't even know what you would, I don't even know what Doug would Google to figure that out. You know what I was tripping out on was,

you know those old games like Sims and some of those virtual reality, even build a Minecraft and you know these things that are like fully immersive that people like spent like an exorbitant amount of time in and had friendships there even like made relationships virtually with people inside like this whole game and they would like change themselves completely and like be this like dragon with this huge penis. And they all really random crazy stuff, right? And I'm like, this like literally looks like what's happening in the real world now.

Yeah. Like literally, like that same like mentality concept, it's just weird. Like leaped from the virtual into reality. Well, I think that, I think player one did such a good job at thinking this. Yeah, I mean, I do think that we're this close to something very similar to that where, you know, virtual, I mean, isn't that the

I always forget the net row blocks is that the name is I say roblox is the thing that your kids all to now they're doing aren't they doing virtual. Yeah, basically. Concert games, I think games inside it, you know, they they're all they're doing. They're holding like massive concerts virtually. But you go on Roblox the watch. Yeah, you probably I think if this is how it works, I think you you get your Roblox character, which an avatar you build, right? So your character attends these concerts and gets the mingle with all the other people that attended it.

And you have to pay to get into it, right? So, I mean, I did make my own dugs away from computer right now, but I'm curious to, I know there's some artists that have done it already. I think Travis Scott did it, and I think they made millions and millions of dollars doing this virtually. That's well, during a concert in Roblox.

Yes, I'm gonna look it up right now, really. Back to what you were saying though, about this major celebrity being president. It'll be a YouTube star or something like that. It's TikTok stuff. That'll be the, that's it. It's one of the Paul Brothers. Yes.

Don't, it's gonna happen, dude. It's gonna be one of these TikTok stars or whatever. I'm gonna be president. I'm gonna fix everything. No, you're not. Yeah, we need to go to Mars. I'm gonna go to Mars. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Give me on that fucking rocket. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, we need to go to Mars. I'm gonna go to Mars. That's not gonna do.

Give me on that fucking rocket. Yeah, it's my order. Hey, so speaking of whatever, Adam, are you gonna miss us because we're going to Hawaii and you're not. Okay, let me get that. He has a vacation. On November 13th, 14th,

Little Nas X dazzled the world with a virtual concert experience performed entirely within Roeblocks. not only was it first of its kind Achievement for both little noss x and row blocks but attracted more than 30 million visits to his show stopping spectacle across Laptop dancing Satan. I don't know. Yeah, that's important. Yeah, that's what I'm more interested in it how much people pay to get in because it attracted 30 million people That's true hot roblox is for kids and they had that's a lot dancing Strange choice. Yeah, good job. Now back to your Hawaii thing Yeah, so yeah, because we're going in you're not are you feeling are you gonna miss us? Yeah, I'm going to miss you guys

I'm going I always do a more not here for a while if we don't see each other We'll send you lots of pictures and stuff from the pool Yeah, I want to see I Altand and Abdup. That's what I'm actually asking. And what he's gonna bring is Banana Hammocks. So I'll bring you one too. Now, are you guys, so I'm trying to think, have we done like a tropical week vacation?

We haven't done like a Cabo, Mexico, or anything. We haven't planned in a couple of years. That's sure, maybe. Yeah, so we haven't, so how are all of you guys? I've done it with Justin before. Justin and I have been on trips like this before. We're good vacation buddies. I'm funny with the way I am with vacation, right?

So I'm not the most fun to be with and just being normal. He's like a homebody. He's like a homebody in another place. Yeah, I mean, when I vacation, my type of, so it's my sister and her husband, Tom, are the complete opposite. Yeah, when I vacation like my type of a case. So it's like my sister and her husband Tom are like the complete opposite. Yeah, they're adventurers. They decide we're going to go somewhere and weeks leading up to the vacation. They he does research. He researches the all the five star and the local places to go for food and the places that you want to see that nobody knows about.

Like, I mean, he does his homework. And then after he does his homework, he plans out his whole week. Okay, Monday, we're going to get up at this time. We're going to go here. We're going to do these things, spend the half day there. We're going to go, we're going to stop at this place, which is down the road and eat there. Then we're like, that, I am like, fuck no.

I don't want none of that. I don't want to do any of that. I want to go there and not plan anything and maybe Stay in my infinity pool the entire week. This is what I do I I go back up for it between Tom and then Adam Yeah, and I just kind of stack it out because I like both those approaches, but it depends on what mood I mean nowadays I'm probably more like you where I won't do anything especially because we have the baby But before when when Jessica and I would go on trips we were such good and move it on. Now a days I'm probably more like you, where I won't do anything, especially because we have the baby.

But before, when Jessica and I would go on trips, we were such good vacation partners because we like to adventure. Now we don't do what your brother-in-law does, what we really go crazy. But what we like to do is wake up early, we typically work out together, I love working out on vacation

because I can take my time and joy. And then we get in the car and we just go explore and I love that I love driving places exploring different restaurants. Let's go see meet different people hang out at this bar Hang out. Oh, and then it's just really really fun sitting in one place the whole time I don't know. I don't know if I could I get criticized for that because you know Everyone's like well, it's the point of going to this place because you want to you know Find out about the culture and do also, and I totally get it.

So if you're that person, I understand and I, you know, the more power to you, and I've done that before. But when I feel like on a trip like that, I want another vacation when I get fucking home. Yeah. I get home and I feel like I've been going, going, going, and I'm tired and then I just want to take a week off of work, which is the opposite of what-

The oldest guy, no. That's what I'm talking about. Right? Like, I just want to take a week off of work, which is the opposite of what old is guy now Right like I want to go on a vacation and I want to just I want to be pampered I want to relax. I want to enjoy I want to I want to eat I want to sleep. I want to Read so dude like I base it off of like how I wake up in the morning if I got energy I'm like hey, we're doing shit today. You know if I if I'm like I'm like struggling Why am I why am I struggling to do something? Like, no, I'm just gonna stay here and relax, chill, and whatever.

So yeah, it's totally like, I mean, I'm probably more like you just, because I'm also, I mean, I'm saying that, but I'm also not like a, you know, if Justin said, hey, let's go fly fishing today or let's go do this. I'm like, I'm down, like, let's go do that. I just don't, I don't, it's, I've gotta be on my terms.

It can't be planned. It can't be planned ahead, because I don't know how I'm gonna feel. I'm not a plan. I don't, it's, it's gotta be on my terms. It can't be planned. It can be planned ahead because I don't know how I'm going to feel. I don't know if on, if Tuesday night, I'm going to have drank until 11, 12 o'clock at night, party in, right? And then hungover feeling in the morning. And then you asked that was the day we're supposed to go on the seven mile hike up a mountain. I know what to get you for your 40th now. I'm going to get you a nice spa. All day, you go there, massage, facial. Hey, I wouldn't hate on that. I wouldn't hate on that for sure.

That's totally something you need. I know, no, I do. And more so as I've gotten older, like that type of stuff, I probably would have scoffed at in my 20s, a massage or a spa. No, I like to either party really hard or do go out and check things out and then relaxing is third

But like I said now that we have a baby we're probably gonna relax now speaking of party and then you guys going out to Hawaii You need to make sure I just saw Jerry ordered. I don't know if it was specifically for you guys another hundred pack That's for us Z-Bottaks Yeah, well, it's in the back still so you can use better not forget it or else you're gonna regret it No, I know this guy will be drinking pretty much every day. Oh, yeah, so and I'm gonna be hanging out with him. So I'm gonna Influence you. Oh, she enjoys whiskey though, which I like. She likes the fl- Yeah, she likes, she drinks like an old, an old established man.

You know, she likes like, you know, whiskey and, yeah, like the refined, yeah, like the PDT, you know, shout out the word she uses to describe her whatever. I'm the fruity drink person. Yeah. We have all the lava flows. Hey, we ordered drinks.

When we would go on vacation, we'd order drinks. The guy I guarantee the waiter brings over. Yes. Your her drink to you and the other way way around oh, isn't that funny? Yes. Yeah, who got the whistling? You know whistling pig whiskey or whatever the name is and yeah, no, that's hers. Yeah, I'll take I got the I got the watermelon mojito But I know I think what the drink the of choice for me is probably gonna be vodka tonic because Lots of sugar with alcohol not a good combination

That's honestly an even court and he's moved to that just because it's refreshing and it's not a whole lot of Sweet sugary stuff Yeah, but I also feel like that is one of the best things that Z-bottac does so well I feel like if I have that I can get away. I can get away with a lot. I can get away. I can too. I can get away with mixing. That's my thing. I can get away with the sweet drinks. Yeah, I can get away with a lot. Now, if I don't, I got to be very careful on how many I have. I got to be careful on what alcohols I choose. But the Z-biotic, I swear, I can get away with all way more shit. Well, I can too, which makes it a little dangerous. Yeah. I tend to push it a little bit.

Yeah, no, I'm pretty, Katrina on the other hand, she'll drink every day. Like, she loves going out with us. Oh yeah, girls got four livers. Yeah, it's funny. Like, I'm not gonna drink, like Katrina, like, oh, let's have a drink, you guys. Yeah, great idea.

Yeah, that's your idea, not mine. I tease her so much about it that she hides it every once in a while when she does it. Like so like she'll have like, there's been times where like, you know, we're doing stuff in the house. Maybe I went upstairs, I just got home from work and a lot of times I shower, so they get home and she's with the baby and stuff.

And I come down and I see that she's got, looks like a diet coke on the counter and I grab it and I just sip it and it's kind of, I'll call her out. Yeah. It's fucking Tuesday. What are you doing? She's like, we left.

It's my day's ending right now. I wanted to have one I've been good all week and listen look at you dude. I'm more of an edible person That's what I'll do more of the cannabis edibles I think Oh, that'll fill me down. Those are nice, too Yeah, that's true bro. Yeah, if you're at the pool and you have a nice, you know, even Edibles tend to and less it's the right one and it has to be the right one and it's always hitting miss for me. Well, maybe because you take too much, dude, I've seen you, you gotta find your brand.

You gotta find your brand. You gotta find your brand. They can make me steep. Well, yeah, if you take 70 milligrams of this, you know, I take to feel it. How many of you got in there? No, I've been off of smoking that much that I'm super lightweight right now.

Yeah, yeah, like, I took that whole month off and then even since then, I've intermitt lightweight right now. Yeah, yeah, like I took that whole month off, and then even since then I've intermittently been smoking. And so I had to be careful because it doesn't take too long. That was my favorite thing, that was my favorite story of yours. Like, I don't know, people send a shit all the time. We get this, the bottle of like, it's like liquid something and it's got cannabis in it.

Oh yeah. And this is literally what Adam does. He drinks the whole thing, and then he hands it to me and he goes, how much is in this? It tastes good. Yeah, like he drinks the whole thing. So how much is in it. Oh yeah. And this is literally what Adam does. He drinks the whole thing and then he hands it to me and he goes, how much is in this? It tastes good. Yeah. He drank the whole thing. So how much is it? I look at it and I'm like, I did the math on like 10 milligrams. There's this many servings. I'm like, bro, you just had 75 milligrams of THG. I remember about right. I remember when the guy, the rap who brought it to us, I forgot the brand and the company that this was, so I should shot him out.

But thanks for bringing me first. Well, maybe I shouldn't for this reason, right? Because I remember he brought him to me and he was like, oh, these are really mild and I'm like, okay, like thinking that it was no big deal. And of course, that's like stoner, I guess I have a stoner look to me. So, you know, like from one stoner,

like, these are light, bro. You know what I think? One can, I'm thinking, who's gonna drink a fourth of a can? You know what I'm saying? Who's gonna open a can of a soda and drink one fourth of it and then put it back? So I'm just assuming whoever created this drink would make a good dose for the whole can,

not a can that you would want to break up in sevenths. You know what I'm saying? That makes no sense to me, so I'd just drink it, and then later on found out that I had that. Maybe that's what I didn't take off. Yeah, that's what I mean. Well, you know, I'm supposed to take sips out of a soda? Yeah, nobody does that.

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Our first caller is Audrey from Pennsylvania. Hey Audrey, how can we help you? Hi you guys. So first of all, thank you for everything that you do. It's an honor to be talking with you. So basically I'm normally a very active, and I had emergency surgery back in September for appendicitis, and everything seemed to go well with that, but during my recovery, there seemed to be some type of nerve damage that had been done perhaps through the surgery

or perhaps through working with my sports doctor. So what ended up happening is I had extreme 10 out of 10 pain most of the time for several months up until about April when I was able to finally do things again. What I did was I started with maps in a bullet in pre-phase to get back into my lifting and then I worked through maps in a bullet backwards from phase three to phase one. So I get my question is I'd like to get back some functional strength and my athleticism again. If I go into maps performance to accomplish that goal, can I start at phase one, even though I'm coming off of a similar, the phase one of maps in a ballad being heavy going into

a heavy phase of maps performance? Yeah, that's a really good question. So for people who aren't familiar with the programs, phase one of maps and Abolic and phase one of Performance, they have some different exercises. This is a little bit different, but essentially you're lifting heavyweight lower wraps. You're doing longer rest periods. And so the question is like, okay, I'm moving out of that kind of a phase. Do I go straight into the similar phase into the next program. So my answer to that is yes, but I would shorten it. So I would do, you did three weeks of phase one in maps in a ballad.

Yeah, maybe two of performance. Yeah, I do one or two in mass performance and then move on. And the reason why I'm saying that's because it is different in mass performance in terms of the programming. The temp was a bit different. A bit different. So I would go one or two weeks, phase one,

then jump right into phase two of performance and then you should be totally good. I can tell you listen to the show too for quite a bit because I think we've talked about that a long time ago, right? If somebody was injured, how I would train them, and I think I'd talked about Katrina training reverse, right, as far as anabolic, is that what made you decide to do that? I'm actually a personal trainer on the side, and yeah, but I've been listening to you guys for since 2014.

So you're my fitness mentor for sure. I love it. I'm going around there. I'm sorry to say again. No, I love that. I mean, I think that's just a smart decision after coming out of an injury like that, going right. Some people start with anabolic

and go right into strength. And I'm like, if you're just getting back from recovering, starting. And so the audience that doesn't understand what we're talking about, phase three of anabolic is higher reps, higher reps, lower weight. So I just think that's a smarter play. Even though in the program, that's our third phase. If I had somebody who was recovering from something or just getting off of a surgery,

I would rather them do lighter weight and more reps until we fully recover before we go after like a strength phase. So I think that was a brilliant way to run that program. And you have access to Prime Pro and Prime, I see in the question, because those are the other things that I would say to add to your routine. Yeah. I did that as best I could during recovery. I was in a lot of pain so even that was difficult for me but I lost a lot of mobility. I lost a lot of weight. It was pretty terrible.

Well, it's good to have you back so you're 100% now. Just about. I measured that by my deadlift weight last year, which was 260. So I consider myself at like not anywhere near 100%, but I'm working at it. Cool. Well, yeah, no, do do what we said. I go one one week or two weeks and phase one of performance. And then keep moving those mobility sessions and performance. Those mobility workouts are going to be really bad. Yeah, those are awesome. All right be really good. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Those are awesome. Alright, cool. Thank you for calling in. Thank you guys very much. How a good day. No problem. Yeah, that's cool. It's cool to have a question from someone who's got some experience and kind of understand.

Because the goal always was to create these programs, have people follow them, and then kind of learn their body and adjust them to their individual needs. Well, that's great that we have a podcast explain it even further. And I think that's why it's important. Like, you're able to do both because we did have to write those kind of generally, but I love the way that she was able to create that to be more specific to her needs. I talked about this right after Katrina's pregnancy.

So, you know, and I got a lot of questions around, you know, why did you tell her to go to phase three in reverse? And it's not that she couldn't have started in anabolic phase one. I mean, I could have had her do that and then just told her, hey, back off the intensity and don't try and max load anything and take it easy. But it was just as, it was easier for me to say,

hey, just run the program in reverse. So that, because what I'm looking at is I know that it's gonna be 10 weeks or so before she even gets to really heavy lifting and she'll be lifting lighter weight for more reps, which is less risk when I have somebody who's, in her case, just coming back from recovering from pregnancy or in this case,

somebody recovering from injury, I think it's just a smarter strategy and that's again, to your point, this is how we always created these programs. It's not a one-size-fits-all. It's, you know, you take the core principles from them. It doesn't mean you can't modify and change. Our next color is Brian from New Hampshire. What's up Brian, how can we help you? Hey, how's it going guys? First of all, just want to say thanks for all the content you put out. You guys are awesome. Just nice to get that unbiased viewpoint and you guys are willing to change your minds about anything. That's great.

So I think I know some people do a little bit of background. I think that would help with my question, help you guys answered. So I retired from Prohockey about a year and a half ago in March 2020 and I've always been into mobility, I do the Kelly star stuff, Pablo Satslene, just for injury prevention my whole career, been weightlifting since I was 10. I've been training for hypertrophy for the last four months, just to kind of get a new fitness goal, as opposed to always doing performance stuff, my whole life.

So recently, I got the job I work at now. It's this company we make stretch suits called State delivery. But I'm trying to film a promo video where I'm doing a side split wearing one of the suits. I was wondering if like you guys think that those are conflicting goals, like if I'm squatting twice a week, is that going to like hinder my progress if I'm trying to do side splits? No, it's not. There's a common misconception that strength training reduces flexibility. It actually improves functional flexibility.

Now the key is to practice your splits. So you're just trying to get into the splits. So static stretching is going to get you there the fastest and daily practice of the static stretching. But no, it's not going to hinder or prevent you from being able to do any type of stretch. What do you guys think though about him doing some specific exercises like a caustic squats? Like I think somebody who is working towards doing like the splits, I think that would be a, and let's say he squatting twice a week or whatever, I would actually pull like a traditional

back squat out one day and then do something like caustic squats in there and really try and stretch your capacity on the range of motion and flexibility in that movement. So you try to connect and create opportunities for strength out of that position. Yeah, I think that would be smart or even isometrically trying to get a bit lower with that and really connect. So it's not just passive flexibility you're after. You can gain some kind of active control over it, but yeah, I mean, it's, again, if that's your pursuit,

it's not going to be a confliction as long as you're still trying to connect and make it a strength. And then also, what do you guys think about him starting and ending the workout with that, right? So if my goal is to get to this, this, you know, splits, I do my priming and mobility work and warm up to try and, you know, get to that place as far as close as I can. I do my strength training routine and then even at the end of the routine, I do it again. I work on that again. Yeah. No, I would do lots of static stretching at the end of the workout.

I mean, if you're okay. So when you do this, when you're doing this, this, whatever, this photo is performance, you're just going to sit in the side splits, right? Yeah. Yeah. So static stretching is going gonna get you the fastest. Because you don't need to be able to move or get out of it very quickly.

You're just gonna- But I also wanna like combine it with being able to being like strong in that range of motion. So I don't wanna just sit, like I could probably do that today if I sat in a stretch, you know. Well then what Adam said is ideal. I mean, then practice things like caustic squats

and side ranges and stuff like that to kind of work on that. And then when you do the static stretches and your side splits, when you get into that position, activate your inner thigh and outer thigh muscles. I mean, really if you just turn them on when you're in that position, that'll help you connect with that really wide range of motion.

At a curiosity, were you a goalie? No, I wasn't. I was a center. Okay, only reason why I'm asking is I know goalies have like tremendous flexibility in hockey. So what's this in your question about having a flat ass? We have to address this. Oh, no, it's a girlfriend kind of like six months after I retired, kind of made a comment about it. And that was like, it just kind of hit home. I was back in the squat rack the next day. That would cut steep. I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm not supposed to say anything,

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This girlfriend's mean, huh? My girl tell me too, if I'm mean, so I want like honest feedback. Yeah, but do you say that to you? Would you ever say that to your girl? Yeah, you lost your ass. Yeah, we're pretty, we're pretty, you would? Oh yeah, no, Katrina and I are pretty,

I would say directly like that, but I would definitely say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, I don't know if I'd be like, hey, honey, you're losing your ass. Depends on the relationship. Yeah, no, she's, I mean, one of the things I love about her is that she loves that about me is that I just, I have no filter

and have a really hard time. I keep it real. Yeah, bullshitting. So if she asked me, I'm gonna tell her the answer. You know, our buddy, Jordan Siett is working on this right now. Have you guys, I don't know how often you guys click over. Or glued gains? No, on splits.

Oh, splits. Yeah, he's on, and I should probably look more into exactly what the reason behind it or whatever, but I saw him post maybe, I don't know, I wanna say three weeks ago, or so that, and he showed a video of how far he could get right now, which was terrible, and then he's showing his progress. So maybe also check into that.

So I don't know, George, if you are, or this is, who's, what's the name of one of us? These are the things that we do in front of you. I think you're right. It's Adam. Brian, once you check out our buddy, Jordan Syed, I think it's Syed Fitness is what his handle is. And Jordan's a pretty smart trainer himself.

And I think he's actually working on that at somebody who follow his journey. Yeah, splits were cool for a second. They remember Van Dam, he was like bust them out. I never got that. Like, that's his flex, you know? Like, oh, hey, I can go on a countertop like this. Yeah.

Yeah, but how hard you kick, bro. Well, I think the flex on that was that he could do that and he was buffed. Right. Yeah, I don't know if he had the hands on me. He had some. Yeah, and he could also do. Right, yeah. I don't know if you would be. Your hands on him. You're in some shape in Hanselman. And he could also do a 360 round kick with the.

We definitely have to give the girls a opinion on that. Like, does that do something for you? I don't know. I think anything he did at that time would have done something for sure. Yep. Check me out. Our next caller is George from North Carolina.

Hey, what's up, George? How can we help you? Hey guys, well, thank you for allowing me to ask a question. Very grateful here. And I love you guys. Show I've been listening for a long time now. Thank you. Nice.

I just wanted to go ahead and ask. This question is actually on behalf of my wife. She is pretty much my workout partner. And she works out with me consistently or did before COVID. So I just wanted to get her a little bit help here. So she pretty much has worked out in hyperacafee setting for a few years now and also just constantly going in between standard calories and a calorie deficit. So I just wanted to get your guys opinion and help her moving forward

to really get over that mental aspect of increasing the calories to being a quote unquote, boaking stage and also to focus really on building strength and then instead of just trying to work out to look a certain way. Yeah. So what was the name cell of the episode that we did just recently? Was it called Why Women Should Bolt?

Oh, there you go. Yeah, we just did it. We did a whole thing like perfect for her. If you haven't heard that already. That's a great idea. Have her listen to that episode because the whole episode was dedicated to Why Women Should Bolt or the Benefits of Bulking.

Maybe Doug Andrew could look up what one that what number that was. I know we did in the last couple of weeks. I mean, obviously look, here's a deal. The benefits you'll get from feeding her body to build strength is she's gonna have a faster metabolism. It's gonna make getting lean much easier in the future and much easier to maintain.

Of course, more muscle means more curve. A lot of women are afraid of building muscle because I think it's gonna make them look not feminine. This is not true, except in really, really rare extreme cases, building muscle just adds more curve. You have a rounder, but you have better posture. You have a nice tight midsection, a nice hamstring. So those are the benefits,

but the problem is when you're communicating kind of to somebody who's got kind of a psychological issue with a particular pursuit, and you're trying to give them a logic, it doesn't always work. So really, I would say, and this, if she was my client, it's what I would do. I would say, okay, here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna want you to take your scale, and I want you to

put it in the closet. You're not gonna weigh yourself for the next two to three months. We're not gonna weigh you at all. All we're gonna focus on is how strong you are. That's the goal. Let's get you strong. Now, at the end of two months or three months, then we'll test your body fat.

We'll see your lean body masses and we'll see what we've done within that period of time. But for the next few months, don't weigh yourself and we're just going to focus on strength. And if she can just do that, that should be enough to get her out of that mental block. George, the episode number is episode 1565, so 1565, and I would really point her in that, we could say here and give you all these like little one line or tips, but I know how hard this is to convince.

I mean, the reason why we did that episode and wanted to talk about it full of four, full hour was because it was one of the most difficult things for me to do as a coach. Getting a client, a female client that would come in and tell me, Adam, I want to lean out or look this look a certain way. And I assess their diet. I assess their what's going on with them and you know, almost always what I want to do is increase calories and focus on gaining and quote unquote, bolking. And that just scares the shit out of all of them. And it would be quite the process, even as a professional, right?

She's coming to me, hiring me. I'm supposed to be the professional. So I can I totally probably know how you feel, how you feel as the husband trying to convince your wife to do this and how challenging that is. So I would, I would listen to that episode because we really unpack all of that and we, we give all the points in the reason. Yeah, it goes, it goes against like everything you hear in pop culture, every kind of like magazine that, you know, women are reading reading all the marketing out there that's just

dog shit and so that is something that we're always having to dress you know with new clients coming in and having these type of goals so great episode to really you know turn her on to to understand you know better how this will really benefit her. Yeah, and here's a deal too. If she can do this for about two or three months, usually at the end of that period, they're convinced. Usually after 16 to 90 days, you're showing them, oh my gosh, you're eating 500 more calories a day. I just tested your body fat. It didn't go up, but you gained some muscle.

You have a faster metabolism, or you got leaner, that's sometimes that would even happen. Wow, it looks like your body fat percentage actually went down and you're eating more food and you're stronger and you feel good. And oftentimes at that point, they would say, okay, now I trust the process.

It's just they need that proof initially and that's the hard, the first step is the hard. I remember actually even kind of lying to my clients to get them to do this when what I mean by that is like I would be obviously as a coach I'm tracking all their calories and so you know I say I'm training Suzy and Suzy's eating 1500 calories she's afraid to death to bulking some of that instead of me even terming what we're doing as bulking or even letting her know and yeah I just I would add I would just say, you know what,

I really want to see if I add this to your diet, if you notice a difference in your skin, in your mood, in your hair, in your energy, and I would tie it to something totally different, and then I would just add a couple hundred calories, and it could be like an apple and in 10 almonds, or something, and I would just keep doing that incrementally until I've got to a point where I bumped it to like,

you say like 500 calories, I guess what we've done, you know, than explaining next plane. I tricked you. No, you know what, I used to say this, I would have these conversations and then I would look at them and I'd say, look, I'm going to ask you this one time to put your trust in me and I promise I'll never have to ask for your trust again. And that sometimes would work because I think at that point, the person just wants to give up and give control to someone else, to some extent. And that would work sometimes, but I feel like George is a horrible one.

Yeah, this is tough being the husband. You know your wife the best, right? Whatever method that is. Hey, look, if she does, by the way, if she starts doing this, you cannot compliment her enough. Okay, you get encouraged to what's going on. So she starts to eat more. She starts to lift.

Oh my God, honey, You're look incredible. Wow Look at your butt. My god. He feels so tight just to kind of you know make her feel good about No, that's a great point because the next hurdle, you know, that you would have as a coach or in this case, you know Workout partner is then she does start to build a little bit muscle But then clothes might start fitting a little tighter and And right away they start freaking out like, oh my God, my jeans don't fit. I told you I did not want to do this stupid bulk and now I'm getting fatter or bigger. And so Salis Point is so on point you have to continue to reassure that you love the way her body is shaping up and changing the definition.

Right, right. So make sure you are complimenting through that process because, you know, once you do finally convince them that it's smart and a good idea for them to bowl, then they start doing it. And then the next thing they do is start saying, like, oh my god, my shirts are my pants or something's fitting to die. I'm getting too big. Be a little manipulative. A little. I

was like, guys, and yeah, I definitely did listen to that episode. I wanted to heard towards that one one as soon as it came out because I just knew how beneficial and how it made me think about things differently. I was a trainer in a big box gym for a year before COVID happened and I just realized that most of the women clients that I had, they listened to me, over listening to any of their family members. So that was my main reason for reaching out to you guys is just to get an answer from an outside store

is because being the husband, I can only do so much before she tells me to go away. That's true. What's your wife's name? Kirstie. Kirstie or Kirstie? K-I-R-S-T-Y. All right, Kirstie, this is Sal from My Impump.

I know you know who I am. You listen to my podcast. I want you to bulk, do a slow bulk for about two or three months. Focus on strength. Don't weigh yourself anymore. Trust me, it's going to work. You get this. You get this at the end.

Awesome. Thank you guys. Is there any specific programs that I should want to do? I have in a bottle like I was thinking maybe that would be a good one. That's perfect. That's the one. Do that. Okay. Awesome.

Thank you very much guys. I appreciate it. Thanks, George. Boy, that's a hard one. I tell you. Oh, it's he. That's a hard one as a trainer. I know.

Coach, I mean, that was... Let alone your husband. Yeah. I mean, it took me over three years before I could even get a hold of Katrina's diet and training. You know, even with all my experience, hurt knowing me, seeing everything that I'd done in fitness, I didn't even touch that area because it's just tough

when you're, when you're of the family, when you're inside that, what's that, what's that saying Doug, it's hard to be a prophet in your own, what's the, in your own country? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah, that's a tough one. Our next color is Eric from California.

What's up, Eric? How can we help you? Hey, what's going on guys? How you guys doing? Good. Good. We're in California, are you? I'm actually in Santa Fe, North Bay.

Oh, not far from us at all. Yeah. How can we help you, buddy? I love the content, guys. I really do appreciate you guys having me on the show. So to give a little background, I played collegiate golf from 2015 to 2019. And I was going through a lot of personal issues back then, which made me turn to food and alcohol to kind of fill the void. I went in a freshman year at 5.7.150 to 200 pounds by the end of my sophomore year. We had a trainer and we did strength training workouts with the team, but I kind of just ate

so much and drank so much that I just gained a bunch of body fat. And I wasn't really going through the workouts with intensity either. I was just kind of going through the movements so that I didn't get kicked off the team. I was able to get past my personal issues and really started getting to resist this training by the end of my junior year. And my buddy Gavin being actually turned me on to you guys and I was able to get down to a healthy 158. Lately I've been training more for aesthetics, doing more of a push full leg split five

to six days a week for no more than an hour a day. I don't do any other specific cardio other than walking and I roughly get around 10,000 steps a day and currently on a bulk eating around 2,800 to 3,000 calories a day. So for my main question, now that I've gotten down to a body that I'm happy with, I'm just focusing on getting stronger. And although I'm definitely improving in my lifts, it's not necessarily translating to more distance on the golf course. If anything, I'm hitting the ball shorter now compared to when I was fat and had little snow muscle. So what are some specific

exercises or mobility movements that I can do to gain more distance on the golf course? Yeah, that's very common. Yeah, great question. So here's a deal, okay. I'm probably stronger than most golf golfers. And he's gonna say that. I can't hit the strongest golfer in the game. I am the strongest person in the room right now. Listen, I'm sorry, we couldn't help it, yeah. Listen, stop speaking so much truth.

No, so I'll check this out. I'm definitely stronger than the most golfers. I cannot hit not even a tenth of the distance that a golfer can because it's technique, it's skill and technique. So gaining strength in the gym isn't gonna translate if your technique is now thrown off because you're not getting them to connect,

you're not working with them together. So technically golf. Technique is number one. Now if you wanna do movements to improve upon your technique, a lot of it's going to be rotational, a lot of it's going to be mobility based. It's not going to be bench presses and dead lifts and squats. Those are good for general health and strength, but if your goal is to hit the ball further, I would focus more on skill and technique and then maybe focus on rotation

and focus on increasing a range of motion and connection to more rotation. Something like windmills and looking into getting that thoracic rotation and just being able to be more fluid with your body because of the focus being on strength for a while and not really emphasizing skill and the technique that you had in place previous to that. Just getting back into that mentality and allowing your shoulders to be more loose and free and mobile along with your hips and kind of work your way down the joints and put a lot more emphasis on freeing up your body to be able to move fast and loose.

I mean, something's got to give here. You're not just a regular golfer. You're a high level golfer, which was probably playing a lot more golf than what you're probably currently playing right now. Yeah, you're lifting weights five or six days a week. How many days a week are you golfing and practicing your skill and technique? Probably like one to two days a week. Well, there's a answer.

I mean, that means in so six days. You're getting great results. I mean, your strength is going up. You've built the body that you want. You still want to get some more strength. So you've just, you've completely went from the guy who wasn't even strength training really much at all or just kind of going through the motions

and playing a ton of golf to now also building a physique that you like the way, not only the way it looks and performs and then also thinking that you're going to keep up the same level of and someone like you is going to see more discrepancy than the average person an average guy like myself who golf so every once in a while or like my buddies who golf once a rather weak they might not see that much of a discrepancy in this, but you were at such a high level with the sport that this makes a huge difference, especially since you're getting bulkier and stronger building more muscle and practicing the skill a lot less. So, something's got to give here. You've got to be either one, okay, with probably losing a little bit of the golf

skill and seeing that slide back as you continue to build strength and to get stronger and to look better. Or you go, man, I'm going to scale back a little bit of this strength training and I'm going to introduce more skill training back into golf for more days of golf every week and then so I can improve that. To be clear, the resistance training is not why you're losing your distance. That sounds like the right thing. It's the lack of practice of golf. Okay, so it's not the strength training. It's because you're golfing once or twice a week. Now, if you want to really do well with golf, then I would flip that. I'd go resistance training once or twice a week in golf every single day and then watch what happens. Or just keep doing what you're doing and be okay with the fact that you're not going to golf

is good, but you'll look good, you know? Which by the way, and we just had a question earlier today that was related to this that, don't be surprised, you could actually still get stronger and only train once or twice a week in the gym. So if you really want to get better at your golf game again, that dude's actually with Sal saying, get back to playing four or five times a week

and strength train full body one or two times a week. And then like a very like a match. Adding those kin stretches, I'm telling you man, to be able to ramp up that and generate more force, you know, out of those, out of those hips, be able to transfer that up, you know, in through your entire body

and really connect, you know, from fingertips to toes, you know, you're going to reconnect and have more of that athleticism back. Eric, are you following Maps Performance? No. That's, that's the program. Yeah, that's the routine. So Doug, Doug will send that over to you. So Doug will send Maps Performance over to you. Appreciate that. That's the foundation. But again, I would mold it and shape it more specific for you since the mobility exercises are general. Like the guys are saying, I would do more rotational type things that are going to translate over

into golf for my mobility stuff. I would also scale back on the amount of days based off if I want to see more progress in golf or I would leave it the way It is if I care more about building strength and muscle. How many how many days a week were you golfing when you were competing in golf and in college? Oh Yeah, we were playing every single day So I'm literally I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a very straight answer Okay, whatever you want to get better at do that the most. So, that's it, bottom line.

So, essentially what you're asking is, hey, I used to golf every day, now I golf once a week, and I can't hit the ball as well. Now the answer's quite obvious, isn't it? Yeah, right. All right, cool. All right, we'll send you over maps performance. We appreciate the call.

Well, thanks for answering my question, guys. I really appreciate you guys. You got it, man. No problem. That's, it's so, it's so funny to me. I get it because people, you know, they wanna do two things at one time and they don't connect it to, but if you did, if you were at a high level doing something five days a week,

you move it down to one day a week, are you gonna see a decrease in your performance, especially if you're at a high level? Of course. Of course you are. It's the number one thing we get. I mean, this is the same question worded a different way. I mean, every week we have this, I have this goal and this goal.

I want them both. Well, how do I do it? And it's, you know, especially when they are so different, you know, it's not, there's not a lot that he's going to. And then, marathon's, but I want to be a bodybuilder. Yeah. So just some people got to get to and it doesn't mean that you can't be kind of a buff guy that can run, you know what I'm saying? But you're just not going to be your peak at either.

That's right. You're not going to be the best version of yourself at running. And I'll be the best version. And the same thing with him. He's not going to be the best golfer. And also the buffest he's ever been. It's just he's now focused his adaptation in that direction. So it's what you get. And by the way, this is now focused his adaptation in that direction. So it's what you get. And by the way, this is how resistance training gets a bad rap.

Is that people will do this? I think it's a bad, yeah. And then they're like, oh my gosh, you know, I'm not as flexible as I used to be. So it's taking away from their skills. Yeah, it must be the strength strength. It's like, no, you used to stretch every day. And now it's one day a week.

That's why your flexibility is going down. Not only that, but you have to integrate the strength and muscle into your skill. You know, look, down. Not only that, but you have to integrate the strength and muscle into your skill. You know, look, I'll tell you what, if you're watching this right now and I slapped 20 pounds of muscle on your body with strength, your skill and technique

for whatever you're highly skilled at would decrease because you have a new body. You're not used to this 20 pound to have your body that you're moving around. You have to integrate the tool. And you're not practicing with it, too. That's what I'm saying. You got to integrate the two. So whatever you want to be the best at, that's what you're moving around. You have to integrate the tool. And you're not practicing with it too. That's what I'm saying. You got to integrate the two.

So whatever you want to be the best at, that's what you do the most. That's just very simple answer with that. Look, if you like Mind Pump, you got to head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out all of our free stuff. We give away all kinds of free information on everything from Burning Body Fat

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