Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1631: How to Balance Training for Aesthetics & Performance, The Muscle Building Effects of Intense Flexing, the Benefits of Adding Bodyweight Exercises to a Weight Lifting Routine & More

Episode Date: September 1, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about combining bodyweight and weight lifting in a workout, whether the intensity of the squeeze or clenching of a muscle matters, how to tell the difference between fatigue and tiredness, and how to program a balance between performance and aesthetics. Dad jokes with Mind Pump. (5:42) Mind Pump Investments: Welcome new sponsor, Path Water. (7:21) Another study tying fructose consumption to obesity.  (8:28) Apeel, minimizing fruit and vegetable waste.  (10:54) Fear and the future of humanity. (21:13) Adam vs. the stranger. (34:13) Fun Facts with Justin: How Star Wars nearly started a real-life war. (37:15) When it comes to the cancel mob, there is no statute of limitations. (38:57) Stock up on your Organifi Pumpkin Spice Gold Juice now! (42:00) Do you wear shoes in the house? (43:50) The origins of random terms with Mind Pump. (45:59) #Quah question #1 – Can you combine body weight and weight lifting workouts? (53:38) #Quah question #2 – Does the intensity of the squeeze or clenching of a muscle matter? (59:12) #Quah question #3 - How can you tell the difference between fatigue and tiredness? (1:02:41) #Quah question #4 - How do you program a balance between performance and aesthetics? (1:08:37) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Strong and MAPS Powerlift 50% off!  **Promo code “AUGUSTSPECIAL” at checkout** Visit Path Water for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Fructose in the diet expands the surface of the gut and promotes nutrient absorption Apeel | Food Gone Good Apeel bites into another $250M funding round, at a $2B valuation, to accelerate fresh food supply chains | TechCrunch HumanProgress Watch: US company Virgin Hyperloop unveils new video of passenger pods that can travel at 1,000 kmph Georgia Guidestones - Wikipedia How Star Wars nearly sparked a real-life war between Tunisia and Libya Joe Rogan Experience #1411 - Robert Downey Jr. Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “mindpump” at checkout** Why Am I So Anal? | Psychology Today The vibrator: from medical tool to revolutionary sex toy Fire up your Central Nervous System to maximize Muscular Adaptation – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #610: Dr. Andy Galpin Sexy Athlete Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Andy Galpin (@DrAndyGalpin)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. You guessed it, this is Mind Pump, alright? Today's episode we answered some fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience. But the way we open the episode is with the current events, fun story, scientific study, latent intro.

So today's time was 47 minutes long. After that 47 minute intro, we got to the fitness questions. Here's what went down in today's show. We opened up by talking about dad jokes and dad shoes and dad stuff. So the guys were teasing me. Daddy-o. But the reality is we're all the same.

Then we talked about one of the companies that we actually invested in, that Mind Pump invested in called Path Water. Now this company, as you guessed it, makes water. But what they really do is they give you water and you buy it in these reusable, fully recyclable aluminum bottles. It's really cool, it's really smart. It's actually the same price you would pay plastic bottled water, which is worse for you and the environment, and you can't reuse

them, not safely at least. Go check this company out, use the Mind Pump code for 10% off. Head over to drinkpath.com and then the code is Mind Pump. Then I brought up a study on fructose showing how can actually increase your body's ability to store calories. That's interesting. Then we talked about a company called Appeal, which is figured out a way to make fruit and vegetables last longer. Very appealing. Kind of interesting. Then we talked about fear and the future.

Oh, it's so scary. It's scary right now too. Then we talked about the Georgia guide stones, obviously written by the lizard people that run the world. Yes, finally real information. Then Adam talked about the stranger, listen to the episode, to figure that out.

Then Justin brought up how Star Wars almost started a war in Tunisia with Libya. Way to go, Lucas. Yeah. Then we talk about Robert Downey Jr. in the movie, Tropic Thunder. Why hasn't he been canceled for that depiction of what's listening episode you'll figure it out? Don't go after him. Then we brought up a Gorgiannify, this company that we work with that makes organic plant-based supplements. They now have pumpkin spice, gold juice, this stuff tastes so good. It's anti-inflammatory.

Drink it before you go to bed, get really good sleep, but I'll be honest with you ladies and gentlemen and everyone else. It just tastes really good. That's why I like it. I mix pumpkin spice and everything nice. I mix it with almond milk every single night. Go check them out. By the way, pumpkin spice sells out fast. You might want to go now. Head over to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward slash mine pump.

Use the code mine pump and get a fat 20% off all products. Then we talked about uggs and shoes in the house. Then we talked about Sigmund Freud and the roots of the term anal retentive and how people use to treat ailments and how women were treated for a condition doesn't exist anymore called hysteria. Ladies, you wanna listen to that part of the episode. This is back when women really love their doctors.

And oh, by the way, if you ever wanna get links to the studies that we quote in the podcast, go to mindpumppodcast.com. All the show notes are there for the show, all the links so you can read for yourself that we're not making things up, we're actually telling the truth. By the way, it's also very searchable.

So if you wanna find topics that you wanna specifically listen to, same thing on that website. By the way, I dare you to go there and look up the jazzle. Look up the jazzle. Trust me on this. That was Adam's idea. Then we got to the question. So here's the first one.

First question is, can you combine body weight with weight lifting in your workouts? The next question, this person says, does the intensity of the squeeze of a muscle make a difference? The third question, how do you tell the difference between fatigue and genuine tiredness? When should you push through it, and when should you take it the day off?

And the next question, how do you program a balance between performance and aesthetics? In other words, moving well versus just looking well. Also, final hours for what now seems to be a very successful promotion campaign, one of the most successful we've done all year, probably because these two programs are very effective, very fun, and great for building strength. So right now, you can take advantage of the 50% off sale for maps strong and maps power left.

Again, it's ending in hours, literally, when we drop this episode. So if you're interested, head over to mapsfitnisproducts.com. Just use the code August Special with no space for that discount. T-shirt time! And it's T-shirt time! Oh shit, you know it's my favorite time of the week. We've got three winners this week, two for Apple Podcasts, one for Facebook, the Apple Podcast winners are Stevie Wonderful.

Oh, he didn't see that coming. And Earthling 91, for Facebook, we have Jordan Stidham. All three of you are winners. I send the name I just read to iTunes at minepumpmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping dress, and we'll get that shirt right over to you.

Is there something you both subscribe to where the dad jokes come from? Because many times one of you will say one of the other guy, no. It happens naturally. You're already, it's already happening with you. Little by little. I mean, this is all new Adam.

It's all gonna come in a day long and later on. Yeah. At some point, like you wake up and the dad's like, this is like black belt dad. It's just in your DNA, dude. It's just, you know, epigenetically it gets expressed. It's a speaks scientifically. Just wait till you start talking to your kid, you'll start dropping these jokes.

And in your word, new balance at some point, I have it. Yeah. I refuse. I mean, that's the magic of emotions. Speaking of that, because Roger Federer is tied to your brand, Owen or whatever they are. These are here. Yeah, you're comfortable. Your dad, shoes are super.

They're not popping up. They actually are going public today. Wow. So I believe it was today. I know this week they were going public so far my all my my public choices of companies of crush Even the ones that you've picked that you didn't invest in that idea That one time and at one time I lost tens of thousands of Hey, I gotta tell everybody Adam comes into work. He's like dude. We have to invest in this company That one time I lost 10s of thousands of Adam comes into work is like dude we have to invest in this company. It's freaking gonna explode But I'm like you know what dude. I'm like I think you're right So I did that day Adam never did and there were like at 70 bucks

We had some news report came out that one stings man I'm stings do you there when you guys jump on the weed maps one afterwards? Yes. No, I'm not. I'm keeping my slow to advice. I'm keeping. I'm you know what? I'll speak in of investments. And by the way, I have a fruit toast study. I have a study that's on on fruit toast and fat gain. So remind me that I go to it. And those of you watching tune in, keep watching. But I want to talk about one of the company. So a lot of our audiences know that we've now started investing in companies as early investors.

This is just part of our strategy as mind pump for a couple of different reasons. One, we want to put our money where our mouth is. So when we say a company doing something that aligns with our values, integrity, we like it, and we want to be a part of it. And also, of course, as investors, it's smart, and we invested in this company called Pathwater

that makes, and this is actually quite brilliant, it's, these are reusable, refillable, aluminum-based bottles, but you buy the water, and it costs like as much as a normal bottle of water. So it's like fully recyclable and refillable, and they have all these contracts with the schools and airports and stuff. So really interesting stuff. You know my kids' school uses these. They can white label. They are at his school, huh? That's how that's how I recognize it because my son's been using the same bottle now for like a year and when I saw the arrow I'm like, wait a minute. That's that they do it at my Sun School too. Yeah, they're everywhere. And you're really cool. So, fructose.

They did a study on fructose showing that consuming fructose increases the gut's ability to absorb nutrients. OK, so. Increases the ability, like positively. Right, so this is good or bad, right? Good if you need to increase your absorption of Calories, let's say if you have maybe issues absorbing calories bad if you're dealing with obesity and stuff Because it increases the amount of calories that you actually store and use

So this is one more kind of study that's tying fructose to Issues with obesity potentially and fructose to issues with obesity potentially. And fructose is something that we consume a lot of. Now that, well, now that's been a while now that you look at like drinks and foods that have added sugar. It's typically high fructose corn syrup. That's added to those things. Is it still that way?

I thought that was slowly starting to shift. There seems to be a bit of a market for like real sugar again, but it's not like it used to be, dude. It's ever since we subsidized corn, it destroyed, a lot of people know this. There were big sugar markets in parts of the US like in Hawaii. Hawaii used to grow, used to have these huge plantations of sugar cane.

They were decimated when we started subsidizing corn because it became cheaper for us to process high fructose corn syrup than it was to make sugar. So is it just the high fructose corn syrup that's, you know, they're gauging the study off of or even from fruit, right? You know what it is? I don't know. People bring that up and be like, oh, fruit's not unhealthy, which is true. The amount of fresh fruit that you would have to eat to equal the fruit. Oh, yeah, for concentration wise. Yeah, dude. That's the issue. Even with

sugar. When was that statistic you brought up a long time ago? But how many sugar cane? Six feet, six feet of sugar cane is what you'd have to chew six feet of sugar cane to equal like which is like bark. The amount of sugar that's in one, one can of soda. Yeah, so I mean sugar appears in nature, but it's really hard to find it in those concentrations. Like you know, harder would be to find 50 grams of sugar in nature. I think the only way to do it. What's honey? Like honey. What is it?

Yeah, that's fruit toast. That would be the only way to do it. And then you'd have to fight bees and climb shit to get to it, you know? You guys know that we waste like 40% of our fruit. Do you know that? That we throw away almost a half of our fruit. I know it's a lot.

I didn't know it was that high. I saw that Jackie sent over that article in that company. Did you guys see that appeal? Yeah, appeal. And it was that high. I saw that Jackie sent over that article in that company. Did you guys see that appeal? Yeah, appeal. And I was reading that, they'll say they got like a $2 billion valuation right, this company's like exploding right now. And they've come up with a plant-based, like sounds like a spray that layers over the fruits

and vegetables that increases its life expectancy by like double. And it allows it to breathe, oxygen to get it out, but it holds in moisture. And it's supposed to extend the life by double. And it's gonna seal the preservative. I don't, you know, what's weird, so I'm reading the article and I was telling Sal about this.

And, you know, they say it's plant-based, but- So it's tobacco. Okay, yeah, right. Plant-based breathing alternative to vaping. Right. And so I'm wondering how much of it is. This is a whole genetically modified in order, you know, what else is inside it?

I know it's plant-based, but what else is in it to be able to do that? That's a good question. And so that makes me wonder like, okay, well, because if it was organic and all natural, they would have said that in the article. I mean, they would promote that for sure. Now, that being said, I'm pro at no matter matter what because if we're throwing away half of our fruit and vegetables and there's people that are still starving

Simply by extending the life by double I would assume that we could cut that number in half right you bring a great point because first off plant-based arsenic is plant-based too So that doesn't necessarily mean you're okay So that's a good point, but a second point you made, a lot of people don't know this, but people think that food production is the issue when it comes to feeding people, it's not. It's distribution, it's markets,

it's making them more efficient because we grow enough food, we actually throw away enough food to feed a lot of the starving people in the world. Like you said, 40% of fresh foods and vegetables are thrown away. Right. And if you could minimize that, I mean, let's say we brought it down to, you know, 10%, the cost of food would drop considerably, especially fresh foods.

And the reason why processed foods are so, partly reason why they're so cheap is they don't have that issue, right? I could ship a box of cheesets across the world and it could take a week, it could take months and it would be fine. You can't do that with apples or tomatoes or anything like that. I thought I read a stout, check me dug on this because I don't know if this is right, that.

One in nine people are starving. Is that, that sounds so high. Is it world? Yeah, worldwide. Is that true? You know, that's gone down a lot. You know, I know it's gotten a lot better. It's worse countries now, I would wonder.

The worst with starving. Yeah, in terms of like, yeah, hunger problems. Well, China really reduced their starvation quite a bit in the 20s. So that is probably accurate. 8.9%. That's about, that's about 9% right? Yeah. Pretty close. Now, one in nine, you should see, you should look up. Wow. What percentage of people

are below the, whatever the, I forgot what this the standard is was for poverty worldwide, but it dropped like 80% in the 20th century. Like we made such a huge dent in that because of the opening up of markets. That's on that one website you always talk about, right? The human progress door is. Yeah, we'll talk about that website. Huge reduction. Used to be a big, big, big, it's the whole issue.

Well, imagine, I mean, a company, that's why I think this company is gonna do well, right? I mean, regardless of its GMO or not, if you could double the life expectancy of fruits and vegetables, we're throwing away 40%, 9% of the world is starving. I mean, you got to think that that's kind of dramatically impact that. I mean, just by being able to preserve that and give it to us, that are throwing it away. So be very interesting to see what kind of dent that can make. And I know I throw away.

And you know, Jessica and I talk about this all time, we end up throwing away a lot because you'll buy it. Yeah. And unless you shop every day, which is another option, it's to buy just what you eat that day, which is kind of a pain in the butt. But if you shop like once or twice a week and you know, get a bunch of asparagus and avocados and whatever in the fridge, you know, it's every week. We go in there. Oh, bunch of asparagus and avocados and whatever in the fridge. You know, every week we go in there, oh, get the asparagus, oh, it went bad.

We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it.

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We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We'll split it. We used to really do the whole Instagram thing. I always used to go to the grocery store. Now it is very rare that we go to the grocery store and it's almost daily Katrina has stuff sent to the house. What's the, what's the feed look like with that? I know, obviously there's a feed. Yeah, there is, but I mean, guy, when you think about the time and gas that it costs to go do that,

like the, it's not, I would have thought it was a lot more than what it really is. It's really insignificant. It's not a big, it's not a big no. Now, mind you, if you're somebody who is tracking every 50 cents to dollar that you spend extra and so on and so on, then it's probably cheaper for you to drive yourself the grocery store. But when you factor in things like waste, that's one of the reasons why we do it so much now. If you just have it come.

Yeah, so we just buy a little amounts of fruits and vegetables and that way in the past, you go to Costco, where you go places and like your point you're bringing up is you buy in bulk and then oh, so we changed, one night we decided to go out to dinner and we changed our mind. That was the night we were gonna cook this meal and then now it's bad three days later.

You know what I'm saying? So, we do this whole, you know, from the local farms and they give you like options of what, you know, you can select in terms of vegetables and fruit and eggs and bread and stuff like that. But it's just like you have to consume it because it'll perish within a few days. So we're just always like in this

mad rush to kind of consume this stuff but We were talking about this too since we're moving again. I think we're gonna bring the chickens back. Oh, wow Oh, yeah, I think the chickens are coming back. You know why I was a pain was because just We wanted to get them out with more space because it won't be more free range and they could go. Yeah, your property now is out for it. Yeah, I couldn't like, contain it, you know, they were just all over the place and I'd be chasing them and neighbors yards and

they would just take off. So now it's like, we can have like a bigger kind of a coupe for them and be able to manage it better. Now what about like, because where you're gonna be living, you're up in the hills or whatever the mountains, aren't there gonna be like animals that will eat them? Mountain lions, coyotes, and yeah, even raccoons, I think, I don't know if they each have them. Yeah, but you put them up at night, right?

Yeah, they'll go in there. Is that, oh, that's what you do? Yeah, you put them in the house. You let them grow, you let them grow them early. In there, yeah, and you close the house. Oh, house. Okay close the house and then the outside has the the Cajer on it or you get a badass rooster those things are Rooster saves you from a fox. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't know man I mean you we might just end up with a bunch of you know off to chickens

Actually wasn't there that is maybe I'm tripping, isn't there like this breed of rooster that's huge? Am I tripping? Was there a rooster once that we saw in an article that was just like a big, I think like, I think like, I'm on the reds or like one of the bigger,

bigger ones. It was a big ass rooster. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, it was big. What are the biggest chickens, don't you? Yeah, I don't know what specific breed that is now the rooster when it lives with your chickens He bangs him and shit all the time right makes eggs Well, yeah, so we can't have yeah, I don't know. I guess I don't know how that works because

What I've Understood with that is like you you want them to just be producing so I don't know if the rooster helps that process or Yeah, it starts to fertilize the eggs. He's when it fertilizes the eggs and then we'll turn it into bacon. Like I don't want that for eggs you cook, you don't want that. And that's really? Yeah, yeah.

Unless your clip is nuts or something, I don't know how that works. Well, I mean, I think you clip this. Well, I mean, doesn't he? Okay, so I don't know anything about this. I'm just speculating. By the way, there's a call to the promise. That's a pretty big ass.

It's a 30 inch tall. It's a Brahmus. That's a pretty big ass, it's a 30 inch tall. It's a big cock. That's a huge, yeah. That's a massive cock. No, I'm talking about the rooster. Not the other thing that Doug has up on the picture. Brahmicock. So here's my speculation.

So wouldn't the rooster be more likely to protect the hands if he's banging them? I mean, I feel like it, right? Based on what I've seen in animal behavior. I don't think though he's much of a protector from the animals that kill chickens. You need a lot of roosters, huh? How many roosters would it take to stop a fox? Yeah, I would take a massive cock to be able to stop a fox.

Don't the vicious cock. I mean, real nasty one. Yeah. I just don't think it's going to work out. Hey, I don't think so. We're 12 basically. This whole conversation extended so that we could say cock a few times.

You know, I got DMs of the youngsters that follow and listen to us that were teasing the shit out of me and us for the our online dating conversation. Oh my God. Listen to you guys talk about online Like this is my dad or buddy's talk about No clue on how it works like aren't there like tubes? Oh Shame me and you got to push a button or something like that. I mean how do you I remember one time? This is a while ago. I have brought this up a couple times a girl person be a man dude

I hope I hope my dad never hears this, but he was, he was, Missed a back on my brother was living there, and my dad goes in there at, it's like 2 a.m. Knocks up my brother's door, my brother's like, what? And he goes, I need your help.

Because how do I take this off? And my dad had a rope in a comment on Facebook, because he didn't know how to use search, you know, he's trying to say, and it's said porn. I think I did. And he literally just searched the truth. Yeah, that's Google you're supposed to do that. I'm not Facebook.

He's like, how do I take this off? I mean, you're close dad. At 2AM, my brother's like, oh shit. He's gonna add a youth friend in there. He called me up and he goes, dude, dad at the end. Dad, we have a 2AM, we have to ask him, we have to take this off Facebook. I was like, oh, that's hilarious.

That's hilarious anyway. Hey, you know, I had a great conversation. I want to have you guys. So I was talking with my kids on the way to school this morning. And we're talking about my son. I'm about to get him driving lessons because he just turned 16. He's got his permit, right? So he'll be driving soon.

My daughter is going to turn 12 this year. And so she's like, oh, you know, it'll be cool when I drive. And I'm like, and then she's like, what it's going to be like when, you know, Aralius, you know, my nine month old, when he drives. I'm like, you know, I wonder if by that point, because I'll be 16 years from now, essentially, right?

I wonder if self-driving cars will be the norm at that point. And if it's really not going to be people getting too many drivers licenses, and then we were talking about what it's going to be like 30 years from now. And this is just a brilliant, my son said this. I thought this was absolutely brilliant. He goes, you know, in 30 years, we're gonna be talking to, you know, our grandkids and our kids will be talking about how crazy we were to drive around half-tun machines

under our control, like, oh my God, can you believe grandpa? Used to drive around in this half-tun killing machine with all these people driving the road. I thought that was such a good point. Did you see, so on Richard Branson's Instagram, he showed the hyperloop that Virgin has come up with and their prototype and everything. And so it's basically that high speed rail,

which has the frictionless, like electromagnetic track where they have these pods that basically are like a high speed that they're on tracks that are gonna be, they're planning on like moving that through all, basically where you'd have freeways. So you just step in and then it takes off, like super, super fast. Percentage-wise, are more people living than dying?

So not dollar, or a dollar, a mount of people, but the percentage. So as things begin safer, okay, to what you're alluding to right now, over the last, let's say four or five decades, has that dramatically dropped? Yeah, oh yeah, but the population, what about overpopulation then? Well, no, that's okay, so that's a huge,

like everybody's like, oh my God, first of all, we have way more than enough resources, land, and whatever. It's but population growth has been shown in developed nations to slow down and then eventually, yeah, has become, as people sort of self-regulates, but according to the Georgia stones, we should be at half a billion.

Okay, what's the world wide? Okay, so what's the Georgia Stone? So this is weird, I didn't know about this. I don't know. It looks like a stone hinge, but it's in Georgia, and people have had their own conspiracies around it of it being like sort of part of new world order stuff and the globalist stuff out there,

but yeah, it has all these sort of guidelines for humanity to achieve. And so one of them was like maintaining a population of 500 million. Well, we already passed that up. It's like, that's just, I mean, those are some major cities, you know, like around the world. What are some of the other things on the Georgia stones, too? Oh, yeah, pull those up, don't you? So is it a mystery?

Yeah, some of them actually sound like feasible. Like they sound like good ideas and then they just like kind of cram in some like everybody should. There's going to be a new language. There should be a new language. I've been so lost here. This is, they told me it looks like, is it looks like Stonehenge? Yeah.

And it's been carved in with how long has it been here? Like, has it been there a long time? Yeah, Doug, you need to read off those. Yeah, so they put it up there in 1979. I don't think they know who did it. Yeah. There's 10 guidelines, eight, in eight modern languages and four dead ones carved onto the slab.

With Babylonian. Right. So there's 10 of them. The first one being maintain humanity under a half a billion people in perpetual balance with nature. Second one is guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity. Number three, unite humanity with a living new language for rural passion, faith, tradition, in all things with tempered reason.

Number five, protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. Number six, let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. Number seven, avoid petty laws and useless officials. I'm behind that one. Eight, balanced personal rights with social duties, nine-price truth, beauty, love, seeking harmony with the infinite. And number 10, be not a cancer on the earth, leave room for nature, leave room for nature. This sounds like a couple. Is it 1979? 1979. A couple college students get high. We should go create our own 10 commandments. Yeah, this is a very expensive project though.

It's massive. Oh, I want to see it. I'm trying to get it up, but it's not casting. It's like a stone hint size. Is that how big it is? It looks like it. It was like five or six huge slabs and then one on top. There's a lot of code in there. So it sounds on top. There's a lot of code in there.

So it sounds good, but there's a lot of code that I could see why people would be like, I don't know if I like this. It's under the impression that everybody in the world has to subscribe to the same sort of ideas under the same language, under the same ruling. It's very much one world order. So that's why. Oh wow, it's massive. Oh, yeah, look at that

So this happened in 1979 cameras and we got all kinds of stuff and a project like that which looks like it probably took months Nobody knows who's behind this old craings and things to get that up there and nobody nobody knows Well, my guess is they made them carve them someplace else and has brought them here and set them up. Yeah, but you don't know who did that. But why, yeah, the reason why. Yeah, to the group of people, right?

For sure. That's kind of cool. It is kind of cool. Yeah, that is very interesting. Massive. Yeah, but I mean, what do you guys think about, like that conversation I had with my kid about? Because if you think about it, that is a very, that's a realistically,

and a lot of people die in car accidents. It's such a feasible thing to say. In 30 to 40 years, it would, in looking back, you would 100% be like, oh my gosh, people were crazy. Well, I don't think it's a weird conversation all because you think our parents, it was a very common practice to be on the freeway and being the back of a pickup truck.

Yeah. You know what I say? Like driving places or driving vehicles that have no seat belts. Like there's a lot of things that were... Yeah, I mean what this pandemic has taught me is just, all you got to do is hyper focus on one thing that could potentially kill you and everybody's going to freak out. Oh yeah, no.

Even if it's minuscule, it doesn't matter. If slipping in the shower has killed somebody, like we could just focus on that. Dude, my grandfather turned 90, right recently. This is exactly what he says. He goes, he goes, you know, everybody's so scared, everybody's so, he goes, man, I was 12 years old. I used to sneak on trains and I go to

and have to sleep in other towns, just to find ways to feed myself and help my family. He's like, I came to Venezuela, left your grandmother in Sicily because we had no money. I didn't know anybody over there. I went to a country where I didn't speak the language, figured out how to make money to send it back, it goes, I slept on the floor with cockroaches and rats, and he's like,

tuberculosis was all over the place, he goes, you know, we had World War II, he goes, I remember American soldiers, coming through Sicily to go through Italy, and he goes, and he goes, and then my grandfather had a way worse and scarier than I did. And I'm like, yeah, you know, he makes a very good point. It's like we're so easily afraid.

That doesn't mean that there isn't like validity and the stuff that might hurt us or what. It's definitely valid. But what was it? Who is it? Winston Churchill, what did he say? There's nothing to fear, but fear itself. And I think that there's a lot of truth in that story.

What are the top five to 10 ways people die that are not related to health. That aren't like cancer like car accidents and murders like falling off a cliff. Like what are the suicide? Like what are the top five to 10 ways people die that are not health related? Any idea? I think car accidents has got to be one of the top. Especially if you're young. If you're a young driver, it's pretty bad. that are not health-related. I think car accidents has got to be one of the top. What is going to be the best? Especially if you're young. If you're a young driver, it's pretty bad.

It's a pretty, it's a top-killer. Suicide is now pretty, oh, sorry. Franklin D. Roosevelt said that. Can't believe I got that wrong. But anyway, I believe that. I want to see my thing, Doug. Can you find that? How people at top 10 ways, non-health-related people die?

How you just look up the top 20 ways people die and then we can see well I have a feeling Ten of them are gonna be health at least you know, you're gonna get you cancer obesity heart disease Yeah, you're gonna have all those wow look at that. So it's it goes accidents stroke. So accidents is three so 160,000 deaths a year. See all the rest are all health related. So everything else I want to see, I want to see things that like that we, and why I'm

asking is because I'm trying to think of obviously that would be a huge accident. Wow. Number three, that's a big one. Yeah. Again, especially if you're if you're young when you're driving, but I'm sure that they count other accidents too, like falling off of a ladder or suicides up there. Suicide number 10. Suicide's gone up a lot recently. I don't know if you guys knew that.

What is that? Septicemia? Septic? Yeah. Septic, I think. Yeah, so you get septic. So like bacteria. Blood poisoning.

Blood poisoning. Yeah, overcomes your body. Chronic liver disease is number 12. I mean, you know, and it's funny, again, having this conversation with my son that led us to talk about, you know, fear and all that stuff. And I said, you know, our ancestors had to make crazy decisions. Like, they had to, they were, they'd had to ask themselves, all right, like, here's our choices. Either we stay here and starve or I go out of the cave where all the sable tooth lines are, and even the animal I'm going to try and kill might kill me.

So I got to make that choice or we stay in here and then we're 100% guaranteed, you know, to die. And then, you know, we talked more about fear. And I said, you know, it's. And then, you know, we've talked more about fear. And I said, you know, it's weird. When people are scared, we allow some of the craziest a lot of truth and stuff. Those type of decisions are so easy though. It's survive or don't survive.

Where it's so much more nuanced today. They are options. I mean, you're, your point, I get it, where you're going with it, but it's so different. Like today, like we have so many luxuries today that we, I mean, even when we talk about this other day, like just the fact that you have the option to be a vegan is a total luxury that we, you didn't have 300 years ago. No.

So, and so when you have these, these people that get all scared and then you make a point, like, oh, the decisions that we made that were way scarier back then, well, they also didn't have all the options. Here, I'll make it more recent, okay? All of us were, we were all in our 20s when September 11th happened, and I vividly remember the fear that was spread across the country and the free world, and that led us to invading a country

that had nothing to do with September 11th, so we got in a war with Iraq. We occupied a country, Afghanistan, and we just recently left over there for decades. We passed the Patriot Act, which literally says they could read your shit, go through your stuff, spy on you with no warrant. We passed non-defense authorization act, which allows them to jail you indefinitely without without- non-defense authorization act which allows them to jail you indefinitely Yeah, without without Spine labeling you a terrorist like without any no course involved so and because we're afraid we were scared of terrorists

And they and this what happens when we get scared we let's that people do stuff and pass things That we normally wouldn't all under the guise of oh, it's gonna keep us safe That's all political strategy, right? I mean, what's that other, what's that saying? Don't let me break a good, good, good crisis go to waste or whatever. Totally. Yeah, I mean, that's what that is. Yeah, it's a 100%.

Follow the money. That's why we gotta be careful because it's easy. And look, I tell you what, historically, the freer nations that protect people's liberties, so freer means more risks and stuff, right? They fare better. People live better, they tend to not get killed as often, they tend to be safer.

So, this false belief that if we just control more people and pass more crazy laws will be safer, it doesn't work that way. I mean, you could live in a country with crazy laws, there's a lot of them that exist in the world. You're not gonna be safer, I could tell tell you that much right now, then you will be probably in more free places. Done with my rant.

I'll tell you. I'll tell you guys what I was saying. I told you guys what I was saying. That was scary. That happened to me last night. When was the last time that you guys had a limb fall asleep and it fell asleep so bad that it took two minutes for the blood to get back in there and you feel it. So my arm, so I mean, I talked the other day

about how I've got the long COVID thing going on where I'm just exhausted and I have like shortness of breath and so my best friend, his wife, is a respiratory therapist, right? And so she's given me all these different advice. Well, one of the things she tells me to do is to sleep on my stomach. And I'm a back sleeper, so I never sleep on my stomach.

I just can't. So I'm like trying to do it. Part of it too is, I don't know if it's my feet are so big that when I lay flat, it hurts my ankle, so I can hang my feet over the leg. Yeah, off the bed, like so. No, put a pillow under your ankle. So or that, yeah, or that.

But then that kind of like arches my low back and it doesn't feel as comfortable. So the moon is still under your tummy. Yeah, you're trying to make it pregnant. It's sexy look. So anyway, so I'm like trying to do that, right? So I, because Katrina told me that night, I was like whistling while I was breathing

and it woke her up, woke me up. So I'm like trying to fall, I fell asleep on my stomach and I fell asleep with my arm and my shoulder underneath. Bro, and I, you know, I wake up in the middle of the night and I can't move it at all because it's completely sleep. So I gotta use the other arm to push and roll over. And remember, it's like two in the morning, it's pitch black.

She's flopping. So I roll hard and when I roll hard, it's so limp and I can't feel it, it slaps me in the face. It's like, and then I freak out because I can't limp, but I can't feel it, it slaps me in the face. And then I freak out, because I can't see anything, I can't feel it, and also, I feel something slapping me in the face of my other arm is, I swear to God, I have no idea how Katrina didn't wake up in the moonlight,

because I freak the fuck out, dude, because I feel this thing hit me in the face. I don't know realize what it is until I grab it with the other hand and throw it off, and then when I go to throw it off, because I have no control, I hyperst in my elbow. Oh! Oh!

Oh! Yeah. Bro! When that happens, you get disaster by 10 ranger. That's the right, that's the real stranger. That's the stranger. You missed out on the table. It's a technique.

You had two minutes of a stranger. But it hasn't, so I've, you know, you have a little time where your hand falsely brought this, but I mean, it was so bad that like, after that before. It was like, took like two minutes of a string. But it hasn't, so I've, you know, you have a little time where your hand falls asleep like this, but I mean, it was so bad that like, I've done that before. It was like, took like two minutes. There's a little bit of fear that creeps. Dude, I've done that before.

Is it gonna come back? Yeah. I've done that before and I had to pick up my arm with my other arm in order to move it. It is a creepy, especially when you're half asleep. I don't even know, yeah. Especially when you're half asleep, right? Yeah.

And then it's this dude, and when I threw it, I had no control, so I'd whack! And a hyper extended, it'll hurt so bad. Oh, no, I'll get you in a different way. So that happened to me years ago, and I picked up my arm and then dropped it, and I hit my ex-wife with my hand, and she's like, wow, why would it happen?

I'm like, no, it was my hand fell asleep. That was my excuse at least. Yeah. Yeah, it's really scary. I was just thinking all night, like, aww. I'm gonna tell her, I'll tell her, I'm fell asleep. Oh, it's my arm, it's weird. Yeah, back to, kind of, you brought up wars and whatnot.

So I found a fun fact that I'm a big star wars geek and I did not know this. When they were filming a new hope back in the day, they're filling in Tonsania. I don't know how to pronounce the country. Tunisia. Tunisia. And so it's like all desert and it's basically where they had the sand crawler. So the sand crawler was there with the javas. The javas were, yeah. So that was that whole scene where it was kind of like crawling in the desert. This is big, like military looking object. That was going. So apparently they're doing it near the border

of Libya and it almost started a war because they were like, like thinking that they're mobilizing their military. And so like George Lucas was like, you know, had to, had to like, this was on new hope, which one's new hope? It's the very first one that they released number four. But yeah, okay, wait, no, so it's the timeline is number four, but it's the first one they released. The first new one they released. Not the only very first Star Wars.

They thank you. Just confused the shit out of it. Yeah, don't tell me that wasn't confusing. One is number four. Because it was the first one Wars. Thank you. You just confused the shit at an end. Yeah, he told me that wasn't confusing with this. Number four. Because it was the first one they released, number four. I gotta be accurate, dude. Well, that's because the very first Star Wars is actually number four.

It just jumped you in because they did three prequels later on. Yeah, okay. So in the timeline of movies, it's number four. But it's the one with the original one, right? With Luke Skywalker. Okay. Very first one ever produced. Is this?

Yeah. Probably hell I was. How epic would it have been? He starts a whole war over this like same sci-fi movie. He's like, keep the cameras rolling. Yeah, let's go. This is firepower.

It's a, I watched reminds me, I watched Tropic Thunder with my son. You know what I'm saying? I love that movie so much. So you know what's funny? So I'm watching this with my son. So inappropriate. So he, okay, with my son. And so inappropriate. Yeah, okay, and my son's obviously he's 16, right?

And we're watching it and he goes, did he just put on blackface? I'm like, he did. And he's the only actor that never got canceled over it. Like Robert Downed Jr. The Jit did blackface in that movie. Yeah. And maybe because it's a comedy, I don't know,

but nobody ever gave him any shit over it. And it wasn't that long ago. How old is the movie? Like, yeah, they talked about it a little bit when he was on Joe Rogan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It did get a little bit of controversy, but it didn't go very far.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't, that's a good question. I don't know why it didn't get much. I mean, it was all satire, obviously, but maybe then, I don't know how he made it through. Yeah, because everybody else got completely lambasted. Oh, I mean, who knows? They all that there's no like that's right after he was making his comeback, too. Wasn't that one of his first two that when he got back What was his first one? Iron man. Iron man. That was his first one back Yeah, he did Iron Man and then like Sherlock Holmes and yeah, that came later. I think yeah

Yeah, I think after trouble. Yeah, chopper thunder was like one at least one of his first two or three when he first got back So you know who was brilliant and tropic thunder brilliant brilliant brilliant Tom Cruise back after the place. Oh, yeah So good he should do more comedies did he was he was a natural. Oh, we were we were on the ground My son doesn't have a lot of comedy. So no, he doesn't actually movies. That's a really good point. I'm sure all the movies Tom Cruise has been, that's the only one I can think of top of my head that he does a, like a, you know, satire role or what. Arguably his best role.

I would say the second was hilarious. It was good. It was brilliant. And the second, his second best role I'll say was born on the 4th of July. I think was pretty good. And then what's your favorite movie? That one that you talk about all the time? I don't know that what's what. Born on 4th of July, I think was pretty good. And then what's your favorite movie, that one that you talk about all the time?

I don't know, what's, what, born on 4th of July, you've never seen that? No. Oh, yeah, that's the one. Not like Top Gun, I mean, that's heavy. What's that movie you talk about all the time that you love? Two good men. Okay.

I think that was one of his best, first of all. Yeah, that, the firm, the both those two are really, but all those are all serious. Well, I'm trying to, I'm trying to rack my brain around. I can't believe he hasn't done too many comedies No, no, no, no, that must be intentional right that you got to be you want to be the serious guy And you must tell your agent like I don't want to take any funny movies. Yeah, I'm a serious guy Do you know Robert Downey junior got nominated for best supporting actor for his role in Trump Thunder?

Wow That's it that's like the opposite you would imagine? Pick and choose, man. It's a pick and choose. That was a different world back then too. Not that long ago. And you know what? Listen, the cancel mob, there's no statute of limitations.

Like, it could have easily gone back and you're canceled because. There's probably a reason behind why they didn't. I bet you could look it up. Because it is strange, they didn't. If he comes out and says a particular political stance, I guarantee you. Yeah, that's probably what it is.

He's probably just, yeah, able to move right past it, just because he hasn't been super political about anything they disagree with. Very smart. Yeah. Very smart business. Anyway, speaking of smart business, did you guys crack open your goal juice,

your pumpkin spice? Oh no, I haven't opened it up yet. Did you take it last night? It's so good. I know we got to make your lots, is it? That's all I like. You warm on the milk? It's gonna, we're gonna sell out.

They always sell out. Always. Warm on the milk, you mix it in there. Oh man. Put your little egg boots on too. No, I just, I just picked your name. You actually bought a shawl. I have big fluffy socks. Who is most likely to wear ung boots in here out of us. Yeah, you you

Now we're Or fashion yeah, but I would not wear He would make the all you think are fucking comfortable I mean he'd make a scientist back study behind it for sure Do it because you would back up how comfortable it okay? I would not and here's why How much is a pair of a boost cost? Okay, so I'd probably get like pug or something like Yeah, I suck off rad even worse even worse you would wear a generic man You would get a good point you're right you wouldn wouldn't spend $100, but you would spend 20.

And if they look just like it, you're like, whatever, I would comfortable. You know it, I'd come in here and be like, dude, do you feel exactly the same? You would. I don't give a fuck. That's a great point, you would not, you would not spend that much.

That's not made with, what's the fur that they use? Was that, what do you call it? What do you call it? Alpeca fur? Oh, right. No, this is bison fur, bro. It's even better. No.

I wonder if Britney Spears gets like royalties for that. I mean, she literally put them on the map. If it wasn't for her, I don't even know if it would have been for her. I bought my wife a pair. Oh, that's where it came from. I know. Oh Katrina loves them. She's got like three or four pairs.

Yeah, really? Yeah, that's like her. She doesn't wear them out at least not anymore. Maybe she did like 10 years ago or whatever, but she loves, they're comfortable. They're easy to slide in and out of. She keeps you. Yeah, like those slippers that have and out of. She keeps, she's awesome. Yeah, like those slippers that have that same feel. You know, that's about as fancy as I get.

Do you guys wear shoes in the house? Or do you guys walk around, like, do you take your shoes off when you come in? I take them off, but if it's cold, I'll put some slippers on. Yeah, you don't wear no shoes in the house. No shoes, no shoes. No shoes, no shoes.

Yeah, I mean, either, you know, I grew up wearing shoes in the house. Oh, you did? I did. We always wore shoes in the house. And, and I had a friend that always took their shoes off. I thought they were weird. And I remember, he brought it up, I brought it up once, because we were good friends.

So I tease him about it. And he goes, dude, you walk around in public bathrooms, outside, all over the frickin' place, then you walk around in your house, and I'm like, oh shit. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. So then I was there, stop wearing shoes in the house. Yeah, I just think it keeps it down.

I especially if you have light colors. Like so my house is all, you know, light gray and white. And you trap so it is. Yeah, it's strapping. Now what do you do when you have guests over? Do you make them take their shoes off? Yeah, I normally ask my guests to take them off. We have a sign at the door, it says shoes off.

Same here. Now have you guys had this happen where I'll tell somebody to take their shoes off? Oh have a sign at the door, it says shoes off. Same here. Now have you guys had this happen, where I'll tell somebody to take their shoes off? Oh, you know, please take your shoes off or whatever. And then I see the look on their face. They're like, oh, fuck. I got this motherfucker. I got fucked up socks on or something.

I'm like, is that happening? I've got a hole in my big toe. Dude, that happened. I had a buddy over and I'm like, oh, you got to take your shoes off. Him and him. I normally don't make a big deal, I do make a big deal on our trucky house though,

because it's ours. Because it's all of ours. So we're responsible. I'm way more anal about it. Someone walks in and they do that. I get hell of pissed. But if it's at my house, like the signs there, I'm not in them, like I just kind of expect you

to pick up on it. That happened to me when I was in security to get through baggage or whatever, for like the airport. it took all these socks. I had a big hole on one of them and they're two different socks. You know, and I'm just like, whatever is like early and I just put them on and I just like, oh no dude, it was so bad, my two toes are sticking out

and like there's like short here and then long here. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, that's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb.

That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb.

That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a bomb. That's a know the roots of that. Anoretentive. Right, but what okay? What is that? So you're like your tight like it's tight like you're so tight couldn't like that saying you're so tight

Couldn't fit a grease BB up your ass. Wow. I think it comes from Freud. Is it? Yeah, anal retentive right? Is not is not where it comes from? Okay. Is that okay now? I thought it meant that there were some conditions Freud Frodian. Everything. Everything. I thought it meant that somebody who doesn't, they hold their poop for as long as possible. That's what it was. I thought that's what it was. No, I'm not gonna let it go. Am I tripping?

Yeah, that's something else. All right, maybe duck. Yeah, let's clear this up. It's here. Walk around like you guys, stick it. Oh, wow, look at this. It's an energy and underage during the period. I stick it. Oh, look at this. Energy and under-dolge during the period time. I knew it.

Freud deposited that children who experienced conflicts in which libido energy is under-endolge during this period of time. And the child's perhaps too strongly chastised for toilet training accidents may develop anal-retentive fixations or personality. Okay, wait, so break that down. So, I mean, I knew it was anal-retentive

as where it came from. So, anal-retentive means that they personality. Okay, wait, so break that down. So, I mean, I knew it was anal-retentive is where it came from. So, anal-retentive means that they're trying to hold their poop. Yes. They just won't go to the bathroom. That I didn't know. Yeah, so you're anal, right? Because you hold in your poop the whole time.

Yeah, let it go. Let that out. Got how much of our stuff comes from Freud, dude, you don't even realize. Everything's about sex with it. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Well, I don't think about your mom. It's all, it's like, you come on.

He must have been. Well, it's not like a lot, not all of it's been disproved. I know he's had some things that have been disproved and evolved. There's a lot of things that still hold true there. You guys know Freud did co-packs and all that. All those guys did drugs.

Yeah, but Freud was a big co-cat. Like, like, like wrote about it. Like, oh, this so the greatest thing ever Well, that used to be that used to be like prescribed. Yeah, yeah for a lot of Yeah, you know what elements you know what else was prescribed Coquist prescribed. Yeah, you don't know that. I did know that. Coke and heroin. Mm-hmm heroin. I knew because it's an opiate so I knew it was like a pain thing

Oh, yeah, so that's what a lot of what lotium or lotum came from right? I know it was like a pain thing. So that's what a lot of, lot of them or lot of them came from, right? Is it a lot of, is Doug? Come on. You should stand up and say something. I'm not so good with my opium stuff. It looks like you, yeah.

Lot of them or a lot of them. I don't know about that, but I do say it wrong. I do know that you used to be able to go to a pharmacy and you could get a bottle of something and it would have cocaine in it. Or an oxycod is basically a pill form of heroin. Yeah.

So it's just time release. Yep, yep, yep. So, you know, I know that. So you guys know, I didn't know Coke. I'm because I did what is it for use for? It would energy. Yeah, I get that part. It would be an elevation.

But when you go to the doctor, like, yeah, like anything kind of discomfort, there, there. Oh, it does have nothing properties, huh? Nothing properties. And methamphetamines were originally sold, you ready for this, to housewives. Oh yeah. Put some pep in your step.

Pep in your step. That's what the campaign, that's what the ads, what do you mean you remember it? I remember it because I see all those ridiculous ads that we can go back and look at nostalgia. It's not like I live through it like Doug. He's really stuck. Oh, it's called Lottinum.

A mixture of opium and alcohol. Wow, you know what? Let me taste something right now. Once every 500 episodes, Adam knows some random shit. That is really good. That's old, too. That's a hard word, too. That's I'm proud of you.

That's really good, dude. You don't have the long COVID brain fog. And that's working good. I don't know. That's working really good. This is a real random one. So, do you guys know what the origins of vibrators are? Yes.

I brought this stereo a long time ago. I shared a meme on it like four or five years ago. It was for women's hysteria. Yep. Is that what it was for? I found there's actually advertisements for a whole lot. Hey, sorry. So think about, okay, how fucked up it was,

but also. Also, ladies. Brilliant. This was a good time, right? Yeah. So women, they used to have a medical condition it was, but also, also, ladies, brilliance. This was a good time, right? Yeah. So women, they used to have a medical condition that they said women would suffer from called hysteria, right?

That's where the word hysterical goes on. It's like anxiety and stuff, right? That's what they use it for. I think it's just, back then, you had 12 kids and you had lost your mind because like, they're just driving crazy. Come on, dude. You had to wash your clothes by hand. You had to kill.

Life was really hard. You're free by scratch. I mean, my scratch, your husband was pro, maybe more the smartest things they did back then. Yeah, and so yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden, there's this uptick in women saying they have hysteria. Where are you going, honey? I got a doctor to treat my hysteria.

So hysterical today. And I got back. You've heard an orgasm. Oh, I feel, ooh, I might tell you, man. I feel so much better. Relief. Dr. Smith really fixed my hysteria, but it only lasts 24 hours.

I gotta go back tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, where the doctor's, you know, sort of, you know, guiding them with that. Yeah, that's why I was- Yeah, there it is. I've seen this, I've seen this right there.

Give it to her. Give it to her. You know what it says. What was the year? Those are, this is not when Whitman, they use it. These are ads for actual vikers. The actual vikers. The actual vikers that they didn't advertise

this like sexual tools. She's rubbing it under her neck. Yeah, right here. Yeah. This penis shaped vikers, right for neck and socks. We're in my neck. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. That's what it was later.

So this is after it's been used. So that's 60. So what is probably the 40s and 50s that it was being prescribed? No, women were not being masturbated in the 40s and 50s by it was being prescribed. No, women were not being masturbated in the 40s and 50s by dog. It was early 1900s or yeah, but when they first started doing that. Yeah, and they were like, so when it, so when it was, what I'm trying to get at was, okay, it was being prescribed.

You're saying in the early 1900s and then because of probably all the relief that it gave women, it made its way to over the counter. Like, no, I think, I think that people were like, hold on a second, this is not, this is, there's even more of an organ. Intended uses here. So, doctors stop doing it, but that's the original vibrator right there

on the bottom left. Yeah, look at that, that thing. I think probably strong, my God. Wonder how many, with the powers on that. But anyway. I wanna know how it went from being prescripted. Do you think there was a gap where there was like all sudden, so as doctors are using it, then your theory is that they go, okay, this is not legit. So they stop. It goes, it's

out of no one's using it now. And then what they did is they marketed as a massager. So, and if you look at the ads, like, you know, Doug was scrolling through the ads, a woman's like holding it on her neck or on her back. Like, oh, so much relief after a tough day. And then it was up to the consumer. So imagine imagine a past socially like that transition, how funny that is. Like, oh my God, wow. Hold on a second.

How old are these cartoons? This is a, this is 200 AD. Really inspecting down there. It's called the genital massage. Yeah. Oh, so yeah, the doctor is teaching. Wow, look at that the doctor is teaching. Wow, look.

1650s. Just imagine like the evolution is socially like when it first started. Like, you had to have been like large percentage of women that were out. If you were getting advertised, it is like a massageer, like that we're getting in there, like, oh, this is so great.

You know, sitting around, and that's actually how they were just using it. And then one of their girlfriends was like, hey, you know if you put that on your vagina, it feels way better. Right. It's that you know they had to have been like that. They didn't go and they they were just using it. And then one of their girlfriends was like, hey, you know if you put that on your vagina, it feels way better, right? It's that you know they had to bend like that. They didn't go and they weren't talking about it. Oh, totally.

Or accidentally. She was like, oh, my leg is so, huh? Oh, what's going on here? Oh my God. So if you're sitting on the shower head, you know, the leg is one by, you know, good stuff. You know I'm talking about.

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and you'll get all the episodes on that topic that we talked about. Also, on that site, you can look up all the links to the studies and articles that we bring up on the podcast, okay? So it's a great page, mindpumppodcast.com. All right, enjoy the rest of the show. First question is from George Semi-Lembro.

Can you combine body weight and weight lifting workouts? Yeah, absolutely. It's all resistance training. Can you combine body weight and weight lifting workouts? Absolutely. It's all resistance training. You know, the typically exercises done with weights or machines, or we don't know, is open chain. Exercise is meaning you're moving the limb and the body is stationary, right? So a bench press would be open chain.

Close chain would be a push up, right? So a bench press would be open chain close chain Would be a push up right because I'm moving my body away from my hands in a push up and they both have their benefits These body weight movements give you really good obviously body control body awareness in a type of strength That translates really really well to the real world. Free weight strength, machine strength, that also translates to the real world, but typically not in the same way. Now, let's think of some of the best free weight exercises that you could do, right? A barbell squat. A barbell squat is actually a closed chain. It's a loaded bodyweight exercise because if you take the bar off your back, you're just doing standing squats,

pull ups, another great exercise, right? Dips, another great exercise. So yeah, it's all resistance training. You can even throw in bands in there, and other, anything that provides resistance so long as it's done in a way to build muscle can be put in a routine. So we wrote programs that kind of separate this, right?

Maps anywhere is like a full bodyweight type of a program that's bands involve, but mostly bodyweight. And then like when you look at Maps and a bulk, it's traditionally all, you know, basic resistance training program. But the truth is most of my lifting career, I would, I actually blended these. And a lot of it just had to do with like how I felt,

like I always felt like doing bodyweight exercises was good if I kind of like pushed it too far with weights like the previous day, or let's say I'm in a hotel and I'm limited to the equipment that they have. And so I kind of would, on the fly, very similar to how I intermittently use hit style training. It's just, I think it's another tool in your tool belt. And I think there's nothing wrong with combining it

with half of your exercises or traditional weight training, and then the other half is body weight, or if you're doing super sets, I used to love to do like, you know, a dumbbell or barbell exercise, and then go to a body weight exercise right after that. I love doing stuff like that.

I do like a close grip bench press or skull crushers with barbells or dumbbell, and then go right down the ground and do close grip pushups and keep your elbows real tight for your triceps. I love doing stuff like that and a lot of my training I think has always looked at that even though we didn't write a lot of the programs that way because I think when we wrote programs we were always thinking of not only one of the best ways to program but also for teaching purposes.

So we would separate a lot of those things. But this is also what we encourage people that have gone through most of our programs. There's nothing that says you can't intertwine a lot of the different philosophies in each one of them and do it that way. You don't have to follow it to a tee every time. Same. I used to love combining them for supersets. I just like, when I like about body weight trainings,

it just keeps you connected to your body. Like a lot of times we get outside of our body and don't realize it. And we're just sort of like going through the motions and we're utilizing momentum and we're not really being as intentional as possible and body weight training like exposes a lot of that. And it is a little more challenging

because you have to get creative sometimes to make them more difficult, in terms of using angles and gravitational forces and such. But yeah, so in terms of adding more stress and load, weights are superior for that. But in terms of being reconnected to your body and being able to brace and protect your joints and, you know, there's just so much

value in body weight training that you need to keep that within your programming as much as possible. Yeah, well, look, let's compare two exercises that are similar in terms of the motion, but one being body weight, one being not body weight, right? So compare, for example, a pull up to a lap pull down. It's the same similar, I should say, biomechanics, but let me tell you, you get really strong on a pull up, it feels very different than when you get really strong on a lap pull down.

Think of another combination or comparison, right? Overhead press or handstand pushups, right? They both have their value, but they both feel very, very different. Like you get really good at handstand pushups, you have a whole different level of control and stability and athleticism. And I'll venture to say that probably the most

athletic resistance trained athletes that you'll find, when I say athletic, I mean just general athleticism can do a lot of different things and display strength in a lot of different ways. Has to be gymnasts, have to be near the top. And gymnasts do use some weights, but mostly what they do is heavy resistance training, body weight based exercises.

And I've worked out with gymnasts, I've had gymnasts that have worked for me, I've trained gymnasts, and you bring them in the gym and you teach them a barbell or dumbbell exercise, they get good at it real fast, and they get, they're strong, like right out the gates, it's very, now they're not as strong as a power lifter or but the strength that they display

for their body weight is just remarkable. So it's tremendous value and body weight exercises. And yeah, throw them in your workouts, mix them up, absolutely. Next question is from more live JoJo. Does the intensity of the squeeze or clenching of a muscle matter? Big time, definitely. Big time. You're in trinzig application of intensity, right?

So how hard you squeeze the muscle, increases the intensity just like adding weight to the bar would, makes a big difference. Isometrics are depending on your intensity of contraction. If I flex a muscle, I can flex it, you know, have good control, or I can really flex it hard, and the harder I flex it, the more the louder the signal, the more potential damage, all that stuff.

So this makes a huge difference. One way you can apply this to your training, well there's two ways. One is to do isometric training in your workout, or two is focus on the squeeze at the top of a movement, and really squeeze the muscle hard, but I will warn you, you're gonna have to go lighter to do this. You fatigue real fast. When you do this, it's not as easy as it sounds. It definitely makes it a lot harder. Well, wouldn't a simpler way to kind of explain this, be like, if I were to clinch my fist very lightly, right? So I'm squeezing my arm right now. My brain is firing

neurons to my hand right now to in order to do that. And let's just say for this example, a hundred of them are being fired in order to do that. And then just by me simply clenching down as hard as I can, I now recruit even more from my brain to there in order to do more muscle fibers. Right, so, and I'm also training that connection

a stronger, more neurological connection to my fist. And if that is training, I loved your analogy that you used to give on the podcastle time, which is comparing it to an amp, so your central nervousism is an amplifier to the muscles or the speakers. And so you training that amplifier, you're getting a higher wattage, a stronger amplifier,

the better, the better and stronger it can get, the better that you can recruit muscle and the more likely you are to lift more weight. And that goes back to the last question with, like gymnasts, part of the reason why they're so good is they have great CNS control. I mean, they have to, all that body weight training has connected them

to their body so well. So they have incredible amplifiers. Maybe they didn't have big muscles yet because they haven't lifted hundreds and huge squat or deadlifting days, but they've trained their body so well. They're so well connected. They have an incredible amplifier. All they need is to plug in some speakers and they're going to get tremendous benefits from it. Yeah. And for some reason, you know, that concept is hard sometimes to, for people to grasp right away of like, you can squeeze harder. Just think of it as like,

if I'm going to grab an object that's lighter versus heavier and what that all entails. Like if I'm gonna pick it up and just use the same amount of contraction to pick it up as I would, you know, the heavier object, you're gonna have to squeeze harder, You're gonna have to squeeze harder, you're gonna have to try harder, you have to recruit all the way up your arm

into your hips and stabilize with your legs. A heavy object requires more force production. So you have to be able to generate more muscle fibers, you have to recruit more to be able to pull that off. So you're just sort of simulating that on your own. So you just have to get into that mindset. Like I need a squeeze and I need to really bear it down. And that's going to then transfer to when you do have

heavier loads and things to account for. Next question is from stones and lead. How can you tell the difference between fatigue and tiredness? One should or shouldn't you try to push through it. This is a good question because it's a hard one to explain, but I will say this, this might help. Rarely is the answer not movement. Sometimes it is, but rarely is that the answer.

Now the kind of movement you do, this is where there's a big difference. So what I do, if I feel fatigued, retired, rarely will I not do a workout, but what I will do is I'll start and I'll go very easy and very light. And if it's just me being unmotivated, usually what happens is I start to feel more energy and I start to feel better and then I start to ramp up my workout. If I'm actually tired and my body's like really fatigued in a real way, the light workout I can tell,

I do the light workout, I'm moving or I'm just going for a walk, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm definitely tired, I'm gonna keep it very easy and it's not bad for you, It's actually quite recruitive. Now, if it's the kind of tiredness or fatigue that you need to not work out, usually you feel almost ill. That's my experience where you're like,

oh man, I don't have a headache. I really don't feel good. I need to go to bed. But usually any movement, someone that's appropriate is probably a good idea. Do you guys remember the conversation that we had with Dr. Andy Galpin around this? That's optimizing versus...

Yeah, and that's stuck with me, and it reminds me of this question right now, and one of the points that he was making was that there's also benefits to being tired and exhausted and pushing the body still occasionally. So I think the answer to me for this question is If this is a a once in a while thing I think there's actually lots of benefits to you know, I'm mad

I didn't sleep very well. I'm a little tired. What are that? I'm gonna push through and still get after it that Every once in a while if this is a Consistent thing that's reoccurring where you're not getting a lot of sleep almost every night and you're constantly pushing the body to the gym. That's right. So I think if this is like a one off where it's just like, man, just today,

I just don't feel like it. I think there's tremendous value in pushing through that. But if this is you are consistently tired and feeling fatigued going into workouts, then you probably need to look at your sleep, your diet, stress, and other factors in your life. So that's kind of how I try and look at it now is that if this is something that's considered a p-defender.

Right, versus just one time, because I think I want to be careful, or before we had that conversation with Andy Galpin, I kind of had more, I think the point sounds coming from which is, hey, nothing just take it back off a little bit, but then you tell that to a client that is already unmotivated to train and workout

and it's kind of like giving them the past that, oh, you feel tired today, don't worry about pushing hard, so then they never stretch their capacity because they got the okay from their trainer that, hey, if you feel a little tired, nothing wrong with like taking it easy. So it really depends on who I'm talking to on if they would have value pushing.

Now, taking the opposite example, somebody who is addicted to the gym, they train seven days a week, they're always getting after it, and then they have a day like that. I'm gonna lean more towards what Sal is saying, which is hey, like back off, take it easy, like you're consistent as hell,

you train hard all the time, your body's obviously telling you, you're not feeling well right now with that, it doesn't hurt to bring up, drop the intensity. But if it's somebody who has a hard time being even consistent in the gym, and they're always looking for an excuse of why they shouldn't lift or why they shouldn't push their body,

it probably there's probably more value in them pushing through. Yeah, I've seen both scenarios, and that's a good point to bring up because sometimes you have to talk some of your fanatical gym people off a cliff and be like, you need to address this. Like this is a signal of the body that's telling you,

you know, you're either not getting enough sleep or recovering properly, which means like you're really not pushing forward. You're not adapting. You're not adapting. You're just healing and then trying to keep going in just survival mode versus, yeah. The majority of clients, though, that we had were the biggest issue was frequency. It was just to get them in and to just keep going and to know that they could have another

operating system even when they aren't feeling and to know that they could, they have another operating system, even when they aren't feeling up to it, that they can pull from. So yeah, it really does depend on the individual. Adam, because you're, you're right now experiencing some kind of lingering, right? It's like two and a half weeks past. I'm not sure.

Right, but are you also not moving or are you doing? I mean, I move a little bit, but to be honest with you, I mean, it's so, I'm so fatigued and so tired that it, I mean, I was playing with the, we have like a little Fisher Price basketball hoop in our house with, and I was playing with Max. You just dunking on him? Yeah, yeah. Playing around.

Just swatting like 20 minutes literally. And then I like, right after fell on the bean bag, passed out snoring at like three o'clock in the afternoon. So I'm really, like I'm definitely feeling the effects of the long COVID they call it, right? So, and I'm not worried about it, I'm not training. Like so I, I want to, you know, I told Katrina last night, man, I really want to get in and maybe I'll do a little lift tomorrow, but I'm so, I'm so feeling under the weather

that I'm not even thinking about pushing my body right now. In fact, I'm more concerned that doing that may send me backwards. And I know I'm losing muscle. I know I'm getting weaker. I know that. I'm very aware of that. But I'm not allowing that to be my driver of my decision on should I lift or train today

or not. And so, you know, for me, go into the grocery store or walk around the block for 15 minutes is is is strenuous enough that it's putting me in knocking me out. So thinking that if I go get under a barbell and start squatting even at 30% intensity still too much for me. So next question is from C Greenwood 32. How do you program a balance between performance and aesthetics? You know, it's funny. We get a question like this every week, every single week, right? Yeah. Okay, here's the thing. For most people, what I'm going to say is, for the average person, focus on performance. And here's why.

Focusing on performance is going to give you a great deal of aesthetics. And performance is more of an objective measure. So you either get stronger or you don't. You either gain more stamina or you don't. Aesthetics, like define aesthetics, define what looks good. It can be very challenging. It's very subjective. Very subjective and people really mess with their own heads.

Someone may lose weight on the scale but lose a lot of muscle, but because they're smaller, they're happy. Like, no, no, I did a good job. I lost weight, you know, not caring about the fact that maybe they lost a lot of muscle because they're so aesthetically driven. In my experience, again, this is the average client.

People who are more performance driven to end up with a greater deal of performance in aesthetics than people who are only aesthetics driven. Okay, now there's a caveat here. I think as you become more advanced, you've been training for a while, you're not going to see regular gains in performance. I'm not going to, I don't expect to see regular gains in performance anymore with myself. I've been training for so long. If I gain five pounds on a lift, that's like a big deal, right? I don't expect to see regular gains in performance anymore with myself.

I've been training for so long. If I gain five pounds on a lift, that's like a big deal, right? It's not like it was when I first started working out. Now I can focus more on aesthetics. I have a good performance base. I have a kind of healthy relationship with exercise. But the way I would train clients, for most of my,

well, I'd say for that back half of my career, when I got really good at it, was I would have them focus on performance and the aesthetics almost always followed. Yeah, if you start with that as the foundation, it's just a healthier mindset that's, you know, more sustainable. And I don't think that it's a bad thing to focus on aesthetics. And I think that, you know, that's something that can take, you can then go from your hyper focus of performance

and then build upon that to now enhance areas of your body that you wanna single out. And there's a way that's different to train for that. And it's beneficial to your body to step out of, you know, the performance heavy initiative. But the reverse of that to me is just, it's a lot more challenging when the driving force is just how you look because, again, the psychology of that is a lot harder to step away from.

Well, I think why we get this question so often is because there's more than one way to skin a cat. I think that there's more than one way to approach this. And a lot of that has to depend on what is more of a priority to you, or maybe where you're currently at right now, or maybe what you've done in the past. There's a lot of different factors that may change exactly what the programming looks But we for people that want this and don't know we created a bundle for this We have a sexy athlete bundle and that's and basically what it is is the it's the combining of maps performance and maps aesthetic together So we've we've taken a lot of the principles from maps aesthetic

We've taken a lot of the principles from maps performance and then we've put them together to show you how we would blend the two of them. But it doesn't mean it's the only way to go about that, and it doesn't necessarily mean it's perfect for every single person, but to give you a really good idea of what programming would look like for somebody who wants to be athletic, but then also cares about how they look.

I mean, that's how I would approach it. Yeah, it's just, I know when I, I'm sure you guys experienced this too, and I would train clients, the, you know, the average person works out because of aesthetics. Like the average person doesn't think to themselves, I'm gonna squat 300 pounds, or I'm gonna, you know, have this particular type of performance. They think I want a rounder butt, I want to be leaner,

and what I would do often is I would, for example, I'd have a female client that wants to build her butt and sculpt her legs and her back. And I would say, okay, here's what we're gonna do. I want you to be able to squat 150 pounds for reps. I want you to be able to deadlift a couple reps with over 180 pounds. And I want you to be able to hip thrust this much weight.

Let's just focus on those and then let's see what happens. And sure enough, they would take their mind off of their aesthetics They focus on the goals that I gave them and then they would hit those goals or in the pursuit of those goals They would gain the aesthetics same thing with guys You know some guy would hire me and say I want a bigger chest. I want bigger shoulders a bigger back I want to look you know more muscular. It's okay. Here's what we're gonna focus on I want you to get to a dispensuous this overhead press this deadlift this row Don't focus on your looks and you to get to it, this bench press, this overhead press, this deadlift, this row.

Don't focus on your looks, and let's just see what happens. And again, sure enough, because their strength went up and they focused on performance, they would gain the aesthetics. Now, of course, at some point, like I said earlier, then it makes sense to focus on aesthetics as you're not gonna always gain strength or performance linearly. But for most people, if you go to the gym and you haven't

been working out for more than three or four years consistently, you go to the gym and all you're focused on is, can I move better? Am I getting stronger? Can I connect to the exercises better? You're going to look better. Think about it this way. If you were fit, strong and mobile in your performance, how would your body look? Okay. Now imagine if all you cared about were your looks, you didn't care about performance.

What are a lot of mistakes you can make? There's so many different mistakes you can make, so many subjective errors that we tend to have. Oh my God, I'm a little bloated. Oh, I better, you know. Gosh diets, you know. Totally. These things kind of sneak in.

Yeah, so that's why I'm like, I tell people to typically focus on performance and the aesthetics will follow. Now, if you've been training, like I said, if you've been training for a long time, and you're not, again, you're not going to get those performance gains like you did when you were first start working out, then it makes sense. You focus on sculpting and connecting, and you're doing more bodybuilding style workouts, because at some point, if you always push performance injury rates tend to go up and all that stuff. So, you know, so I still stand by that. I think it's a good idea for most

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