Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1649: How to Pass a Physical Test, What to Do When You Miss Your Caloric Target, Fixing the Root Cause of Pain & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: September 25, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. The value of fitness as you get older. (4:02) Mind Pump x Jordan Shallow collaboration coming soon! (10:04) New product alerts from Magic Spoon! (13:14) Taco Bell’s latest drive-thru concept. (20:10) Crazy medical stories with Sal. (25:24) Comcast is now making TVs. (30:59) The pros and cons of new technology. (38:20) The link between depression anxiety and fitness. (42:38) How the ChiliPad has helped Maximus during his recent sickness. (45:00) #Quah question #1 – What would you recommend I do to increase my endurance, yet keep my muscle mass, in preparation for a physical fitness test? (51:41) #Quah question #2 – If I miss my caloric intake for the day, should I try and make those calories up the next day or throughout the week? (1:10:36) #Quah question #3 – How would you address and fix the root cause of my pain? (1:23:05) #Quah question #4 – How can I speed up my metabolism without building any more muscle? (1:40:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] September Promotion: MAPS Performance and MAPS Suspension 50% off!   **Promo code “SEPTEMBER50” at checkout** Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Taco Bell's Drive-Thru Is Getting Bigger With Four Lanes Man, 33, was left ejaculating out of his anus and urinating faeces due to rare condition... but didn't seek medical help for TWO YEARS Boy Hospitalized After "Measuring" The Inside Of His Penis Using A USB Cable Comcast and Walmart might make smart TVs together High-Tech Contact Lenses That Go Beyond Correcting Vision Internet of things - Wikipedia Exercise in the treatment of clinical anxiety in general practice - a systematic review and meta-analysis The Resistance Training Revolution – Book by Sal Di Stefano Visit Chili Sleep for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1345: 6 Ways To Optimize Sleep For Faster Muscle Gain And Fat Loss Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1605: How To Get Jacked On A Budget Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP10” at checkout** MAPS Aesthetic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media MAPS Prime Webinar MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Follow Along Shoulder Mobility Sequence – Mind Pump TV Luna Physical Therapy MAPS O.C.R. | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Frank Zane (@officialfrankzane)  Instagram Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram Cory Schlesinger (@schlesstrength)  Instagram Max Schmarzo (ATC/CSCS/MS) (@strong_by_science)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right? In today's episode, we did live questions. So people who actually called in asked us fitness and questions, and we coached them on air. By the way, if you ever want to call in, be on a show, ask us questions,

email your question to mindpumplive.com, or live at mindpumpmedia.com. That's the one live at mindpumpmedia.com. All right, so we open the episode with an intro portion, which is about 45 minutes long. This is where we talk about current events, and we open the episode with an intro portion, which is about 45 minutes long. This is where we talk about current events and we bring up scientific studies. We started out the episode by talking about Frank Zane,

one of the most aesthetic bodybuilders of all time. He's now 79 years old, still working out, still looking great. How many posters do you have, though? That led us talking about the effects of exercise and aging. Then we talked about Jordan Schalo, our good friend, a great fitness influencer who's very smart. We're gonna be working with him in the future, stay tuned.

Then we talked about how Justin took all the Magic Spoon serial home because his kids like it. Magic Spoon serial tastes like the serial you ate as a kid, like those sugary cereals, except it has no sugar. It's full of protein, way protein in particular. Surprise! The macros on this are incredible. Go check them out.

Head over to magicspoon.com, forward slash, mind pump. Use the code, mind pump, for a discount. By the way, they have two new flavors for the fall, cinnamon, apple, and pumpkin chai. Then Adam brought up the new Taco Bell drive through, got him really excited, which is kind of weird. I talked about the mysterious case of the man who had sperm coming out of his butt, doesn't sound as bad as it is, listen to the part of the episode.

We stick through that part. Then we talked about the boy who put a cable and you know where, so they are connected. Another medical story. So many facts this time. Then we talked about Comcast, releasing a brand new TV. We talked about the new smart contact technology that's coming out, that's gonna be weird. He's got a bad cold. They're opening the windows,

let cold air in, and the way that they're all staying warm is by warming up the bed with their chili pad. So chili pads, warm or cool your bed, they have products where one side can be one temperature, the other side can be another temperature. These things are remarkable at improving sleep quality. Go check them out. Head over to chile sleep.com. That's CHILI sleep.com forward slash mine pump and you'll see a discount right there on the page. Then we got to the question. So the first person we talked to was James from Georgia. He wants to work out and get fit for an upcoming Ranger physical fitness test. The next question was Jack from Missouri. This person's been working out for five years, started in high school, has built a lot of

muscle, burned a lot of body fat, has got their metabolism really fast, wanted some advice on nutrition. The third question was from SearHod from California. He's been working out for a little while, shoulder and back hurts now though, so he's avoiding a lot of exercises, wants some help on how to solve those problems. And then the final question was Rachel from Kansas. This young lady is very gifted.

She actually builds muscle very easily, very quickly, wants to know what she can do to actually pair that down a little bit. I know, I hate her too. Still a great question. Also, all month long, two workout programs are on sale. Right now, 50% off. Maps performance in Maps suspension, both half off.

Go check them out. Head over to mapsfitinistproducts.com and use the code September 50, that September 5-0 with no space for that discount. Dude, I was on Facebook and I follow like some fitness pages and stuff. And one of them shared a fitness tip from Frank Zane.

You guys remember Frank Zane? Of course. So Frank Zane, Justin has no idea. I mean, yeah. He's a guy. What am I saying? Bodybuilder guy? Yeah, I know who he is.

Yeah, he was three time, I think three time Mr. Olympia considered to be like the pinnacle of aesthetics. Yeah, I didn't say it, but didn't they call like Mr. aesthetics? That was like, he was three times, I think three time Mr. Olympia considered to be like the pinnacle of aesthetics Yeah, they're saving they call make mr. Stetix that was like hey Did because when he competed just a little backstory right he competed right around the same time Arnold did and then he competed In the 80s when Arnold kind of went into acting and he had a very different kind of physique right Arnold at the time was considered a mass monster One of the biggest bodybuilders Anyone had ever seen at that time in Frank Frank Zane was significantly smaller, like a lot smaller, but he was very well-defined, very well-balanced, had this really good posing routine. And so it was like this mass versus,

you know, class or whatever type, you know, competition that, you know, still in bodybuilding to this day, you still kind of see that. So great physique loss stuff. But anyway, he's 79 years old. And in the video, he's showing some exercises. He looks very healthy, very fit. And it just reminds me of the, how much more valuable fitness is when you're older than it is when you're younger. It's so valuable, it's insane.

I wanna see what he looks like right now. Doug, can you pull it up? I haven't seen a picture in him. And I wonder too, because like you say, he wasn't quite as extreme on the mass side of it if that helped him, you know, in terms of a longevity approach with it. He probably, now in those days,

the guys didn't use a lot of antibullic steroids to begin with. They use a fraction of what guys would use now. So I'm sure that, you know, kind of played a role a role and again consider he's almost 80 years old when he look at He had the he had the body type that like made me feel like okay I could I could get into competing like that his cuz his physique looked More realistic and obtainable for a body type like my one. Yeah, you know, it's funny too If he in his pinnacle peak stepped on a physique competition stage today at the pro level,

he'd probably be too small. So that right there is when he was in his early 70s, or his early 60s. No, those are little older pictures. So I believe there at the top, he was like 69 or 70, but if you pull up a current picture of him, he's, I guess that's it. I guess that's 70.

Looked amazing. Incredible. The guy looked incredible. And you can find classic picture of him, he's, I guess that's seven. I guess that's seven. He looked amazing. Incredible. The guy looked incredible. And you can find like classic pictures of him and you know posing when he was in his peak. And he just, is that him with a shirt on right there?

18 to 75? Yeah, that's 75. So the one I saw was 79. But you know, if you think of like your typical 79 year old person or someone who's 80, like I've trained a lot of people in their 70s, typical 79 year old person or someone who's 80. I've trained a lot of people in their 70s, a few people in their 80s.

The life expectancy is under 80. And think of the average 80 year old. The average 80 year old is on like five to 10 medications. Is not. As a walker or some kind of support. Yes, is not, I mean, that's him, there you go, right there. Look at him at 79. Yeah.

I mean, incredible, right? Yeah, it looks healthy. Yeah, and he looks better and he's more mobile than probably the average, you know, 60 year old or 50 something year old at 79 years old. He's got an Instagram. Yeah. I was just on his Instagram looking at,

he has his bicep exercise that he's kind of, you know, he's called the chemist? Because back in the day, he was one of the first body builders that was into like specific supplements and amino acids and stuff like that. So smart guy too, apparently. But yeah, I mean, when you find somebody at that age group who's fit and healthy, it's like they're in a different,

it's not even the same universe in terms of lifestyle and quality of life. Yeah, I think there's something to it though, even with the whole hypertrophy approach and bodybuilder style of training in terms of the longevity with that versus the power lifting. You don't really see a whole lot of champions, like 80-year-old powerlifters doing well with their joints. No, that's true. I think because of the extreme nature of constantly pushing the envelope,

your risk of injury is so much higher, whereas bodybuilding, it's focused on aesthetics, but the training focuses on feel. Dexter Jackson, right? He just retired at, I don't know, 50-something years old. He was competing on the pro stage. Yeah. But yeah, it's really incredible because when you're around, you know, there were a couple, I had a client who was 82 years old, this little lady, I loved her, she was a spitfire. And she's the one that I would tell you guys,

she would tell me stories about the, what do they call them, retirement homes or whatever. And she would tell me all the crazy escapades, which by the way, wild. Like it's hilarious. The shit that would go down. There's a couple funny movies that are built around that. Oh, dude, she would tell me she's still.

They're getting down. They're getting down. And if you're a man in one of those houses, those places, you're a stud because most everybody's a woman because all the guys are dead. Right. So, yes, if you can hold on. Yeah, you're gonna do well.

Yeah, in fact, there was this one guy she kept telling me and she kept calling him the stud. Oh, he's the stud of the house or whatever. And I remember I went there because I did a fitness talk because she's a little lag everywhere. Oh yeah, she goes, can you come talk to everybody about basic exercises that we can do on our own? And that's all yeah, I would love to. And then she pointed them out and he was this old guy with a cane, you know, and he, you could tell he tried to dress cool or whatever.

And I'm like, that guy's getting all the ladies. So incredible. He's good. But, you know, when you're in there, you see these people at this age, you're, you're much more likely to need someone to take care of you. You're much more likely to not be independent. Like you can't have, it's like you can't live on your own, you can't do things for yourself. And there's either that or you got a guy like Frank Zayn who not only can take care of himself, he's fit and healthy enough to take care of other people because of what he's done for himself.

So well speaking of smart buff guys, I am actually really excited because we've been working on this for a while now, but we're getting ready to do collaboration with our good friend, Jordan Schallop. Beast, so that's, it's been so cool to, I mean, I don't remember what year when we first brought Jordan on the podcast,

but I'm pretty sure he was just turning on as social media, I think he was just turning on his social media I think he was a friend of Craig Capersos who's a friend of mine or ours and He introduced us and we hit it off instantly and we've watched him continue to and that was back when he was at Stanford right so he was doing he was working at Stanford so to watch his evolution and to see where he's at and everything like that He was working at Stanford, so to watch his evolution and to see where he's at and everything like that, starting to work with pro athletes. He introduced me to Corey Slesinger and Max Schmarz.

That's right. So he got me in that whole world class strength world, which was awesome, but yeah, he's just a wealth of information. One of the smartest power lifters that I know. If not the, yeah, exactly. He's got that rare quality of where you could hang out with him and he's like your buddy, and you'll joke around like one.

And then when he gets technical, all of a sudden you're listening to, you listen to like a dissertation. Yeah, like a textbook. Yeah. He's also, you know, how you do anything, it's how you do everything, right? So he's extremely professional Katrina,

and this is not to throw anybody else under the bus, but you know, we work with a lot of companies, right? We have a lot of partners and sponsors and relationships that we've built, and Katrina manages a lot of that stuff on the back end and supports me with that. And you know, when we first started doing business with him, he was like, oh my God, you have no idea how refreshing it is

to work with someone with this level of professionalism. So, he's organized. Oh, so organized, he's got systems in place, like I can't wait to get his book over to us. And so, we're gonna do something in collaboration with his certification, which is amazing for everybody, I know that's been through it. And we're gonna do something for our listeners

that also go through his certification to a way to give back to you guys on our part to combine with that. So that's all happening and so happy that it's far ahead. Yeah, what's cool about that is, you know, he's a fitness influencer. And this is the rare combination. It's like you either have influence in social media and your fitness entertainment or your

an idiot or you're really smart and you're giving good information and you're really, you have a small influence and the only people kind of listening to you are academics and maybe other people who are super fitness fanatics. So it's rare to get somebody who can do both, right? You guys a large, you know, reach, he's an influencer, but he's also giving really good information, really smart guy, he's doing the right stuff, and the more we can lift people up like that,

the more we'll be able to outcompete the fitness entertainment morons that are doing so much to ruin the fitness and health space. So that's what gets me excited about that kind of stuff. Yeah, I know me too. Yeah, so anyway, Justin, I saw you take all the boxes of Magic Spoon again. Yeah, it's probably cause you had a long, so excited. You're flavors.

Yeah, they finally sent us all the new jams. Like I brought home and it's funny cause Everett, my youngest, he loves like Apple jacks and all that and like The only time we were allowed you know We we a lot that to them is when we go camping or something You know it's like it's almost like the you know the the sugar cereal thing because we're camping yeah, and so I anyway I brought the home. I'm like look you know They have like an apple cinnamon flavor and he lost it, it is so pumped on it, he loves it.

So yeah, it was... That's why you took them home. Yeah, that was, I saw that right away and I grabbed that one. I know they have like pumpkin chives, the other one. Yeah, the pumpkin chai one, which I haven't tried that one yet, but I, yeah, I didn't mind it, it wasn't my favorite one, but I mean, he absolutely loved it. So it's cool, they keep like trying out

these other flavors. Peanut butter, right? That's one of your favorite. I like peanut butter, dude. Yeah. Nothing beats that with chocolate. Nothing beats for you. I took them both home and I actually had them both already.

So I had one yesterday for dinner and then I had the other one for breakfast. And, you know, I still blueberry with bananas, fresh bananas in it, amazing. And then fruity, I still think. And I haven't had one that I don't like. Like I don't, I don't think there's anyone that are like, oh, this is gross, or I don't like it at all.

But the fruity to me is to the closest to tasting like fruity pebbles or fruit loops, like anything out there. Like they haven't, they, the rest of them, I'm like, oh, this is kind of like that. Or oh, it's, but those are like, oh, this is kind of like that or oh, it's but those are like Have you seen people posting like their obsession? Oh magic Spoon like you just see like I've seen like 20 something boxes laid out of all the different flavors and everything people are like oh no Look what you guys have created of all of our partners

That is the one that even like my my family members that don't work out like and I think they do because I feel like oh I'm getting something healthy right? They love it. You know it's pretty. It's of all our part of you into healthier things It's the one that is most consistent in my family that like everybody like once they've tried that they're like Oh, this is money. Do you ever got about fruity pebbles when you said that I really remember the rainbow milk afterwards Yeah, you'd eat it and there'd be rainbow milk left over in the bowl. That's one of my favorite cereals, that's why. Yeah, I think it's, it tastes the closest to those, I think, than any other, any of the

other flavors that they have. I mean, they're all good, but yeah, I wasn't really, the pumpkin shy had last night and I was like, eh, that's not really my thing. I didn't like that. And I, in the apple, the apple cinnamon was good. I was never an apple jacks fan though. Yeah. So I guess if you weren't like,

if I, that was like, Apple jacks you get to have apple jacks, yeah. My favorite all time though, and I don't, they haven't really quite, you know, tried to emulate this yet, but was the cinnamon toast crunch. Like that was the ultimate sugar syrup. Diabetes in a ball.

It was like so bad for you, but it was so damn good. That's the one time that I would eat a bowl of cereal, and I'd be like, oh man, I don't know if I can do it. It would hit my way too hyped. Yeah. You know what I'm interested in here from them is, I would love to hear their reasoning behind like why certain cereals are harder to create or emulate, right?

Like cinnamon toast crunch, like I wonder if there's like a formula in there that's like, it's so hard because they put this much sugar in there or something like that. It tastes like literally it's caked with like sugar crystals. You know what I'm saying? And why is fruity so spot on? Like fruity, I feel like they nailed, like it tastes. I know.

Yeah, you could almost do a blind test with somebody and they'd have a hard time telling if it's like the sugar full field. Now what I want to know is I want to know the science and technology that went into Captain Crunch because the whole selling point behind it was and it's very- It destroys the roof of your mouth.

So that's what it does. Well, that's what I was saying. The whole selling point was it doesn't go soggy and milk and it's true, it does go soggy but takes way longer. You could leave it in the milk way longer than other cereals. Yeah. But whatever they did, that's a factor. That's of concrete.

That's probably why it would shred your face, because whatever they did to it to make it last in milk, also tears your mouth up. Yeah, eating steel. Lucky Charms was just lazy. Let's be honest. You know what I mean? You have like a two minute window to eat that.

Yeah, I mean it's soggy as fuck. Yeah, it's a little soggy as just a little marshmallows. It all tastes the same. It's just to be packed to eat that. Yeah, dude, it's soggy as fuck. Yeah, the little soggy is just a little marshmallow, so it all tastes the same. You just, you know, you just need to be back to a memory when I was, I was still a teenager at home. And so my little brothers sister, I don't see how they'd be couple of years, three, four years old, and some around that range.

And I just remember getting lucky charms. I remember getting up for high school and pouring a bottle of lucky, a bowl of lucky charms, and no fucking marshmallows mean in there. Because my little brother and sister would go in there and they would just eat the marshmallows

and the brothers and the same thing. Oh man, oh my God. That's a fury. I know, I just, that memory just came to me with just a front that up right now. I thought, oh my God, I've never been so pissed. You know, you get ready and you can love lucky charms. And in my house, with that many kids,

it's like, you get maybe one bowl per box. That's like evil. I pour it in and it's like, you know, you get ready, and you love lucky charms. And in my house, with that many kids, it's like, you get maybe one bowl per box. That's like evil. I poured in and it's like, no marshmallows. I remember when I was a kid, for whatever reason, grape nuts looked good on the commercial. I'm like, that looks really good. I'm like, I'm gonna have to use the love those. And my mom's like, you're not gonna like it.

And I'm like, yes I am. We got this huge argument. And my mom goes, I'll buy you a box, but you're gonna have to eat the whole thing. And I'm not gonna buy you any, we got this huge argument. My mom goes, I'll buy you a box, but you're gonna have to eat the whole thing and I'm not gonna buy you any other cereal until you finish it. I'm like, okay mom, she buys grape nuts, which is essentially, what is it?

It's like, like, like, horse feed or something. It's like barley, dried barley bits or something like that. And it literally tastes like that. And I remember we, not much of a step up either. Yes, and I remember I poured a bowl of it. It's literally the densest fucking cereal of all time. I poured a bowl filled with milk. I got like a quarter of a way through. Oh, it's like I don't want to grab it feed. Yeah. And I had to keep eating it and never went down. I remember I keep taking a scoop out like it's still there. Uh, my mom's like, you're going to

finish this bowl of cereal. It's just areas whole grain wheat wheat flour Multibarly flour. I mean it's just it's gluten No oil, dude. It's just a bomb of like Whole wheat bits and it's I love that cereal. Did you? I loved it. Really? Yeah, it was amazing. Would you put in it sugar? Yeah We get to do shreds The ball was amazing. Would you put in it? Sugar. Yeah. It's tons of sugar. Hey, look at the new shred. How to do that? Have some grape nuts with your sugar.

It's like exactly a leaf hay that you're putting in your mouth. I love the crunch. I love the crunch. The crunch is so good. It did have a good crunch. Doug, what are the macros on that? Because it was so dense, I wouldn't be surprised if a bowl of it would be like 150 grams of carbs.

Totally. We know how they do it. They cut it in like a, the serving size will be like half a cup or something like Totally. Pull it out of the house. They do, they cut it in like the serving size will be like half a cup or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. That's having trouble getting ahead again. I don't know why. Why we have a couple of viruses since our last searches.

Let's be honest. That's what it is. There's 34 grams of carbs. In what, how big of a serving? Yeah. It says one cup, but I don't believe that. No, only 150 calories and I can't be right. That's that's a lot of. because it's super dense and high calorie.

You think you get away with all the signs of it. Yeah, why we're talking about super healthy food here. Did you see Taco Bell with their two story drive-through, four drive-through thing coming through? What what? Yeah, they're like the first. Okay, so they're, I mean, it's idea just to, so they can bust more people through.

So they built the restaurant on the second floor, and then like, yeah, I get those banks where you drive multiple lanes. So they can, they can serve multiple lanes. Pull up, I'm sorry, Doug, I know we're bouncing around here, you're just finally figuring this out. Now I'm gonna send you over to talk about. So you're food in like a vacuum shoot?

Yeah, I was reading this article. Like your old bench. Yeah, I mean, I don't think they serve it technically like that, but it looks like that. Pull up Taco Bell, two, I mean, I don't think they serve it technically like that, but it looks like that pull up Taco Bell two story drive-through. And you'll see what it looks. So does that mean like there's, there's like different levels of cars? Getting food.

No, it looks like the cars are on one level and then the restaurants above it. So it's like, so it's just driving under it. Yeah, you'll see it in just a second when Doug pulls it up here. Yeah, Taco Bell is, that's the one fast food I think I haven't had in the long time. Fastest drive through, it was rated. Right, so if you write any bean burritos

if you eat in your life. In my life, oh God. There's a picture of it if you just scroll down. A million, I mean, I've had so many bean burritos. Yeah, I couldn't touch it. Oh, look at that. It looks cool. Hey, you know what it looks like?

What was that movie with Sylvester Stallone where he goes with Wesley Snipes? Oh, yeah, yeah, demolition man. Okay, remember how Taco Bell was like a fancy restaurant in the future? They made it look like that. It actually does look like demolition man. It looks like the Taco Bell and demolition man.

It's pretty, is it four lanes? I can't tell from here, it looks like four lanes. Two on two on each side, huh? Wow. Okay. Taco Bell is, they were the first ones to capitalize on stoners. I feel like.

No, no, no, that was jackalbots. Jackalbots was the first one to open up all night. 100%. But now Taco Bell, I mean, listen. Well, they all do now. I think almost every, almost every fast food is, I don't know why they just keep saying. I think they just keep saying, yeah, you know, right? Just like shit.

I don't know why. Just like, look at him. You know, right? Justin, it's I don't know why. I just like look at him. You know, right? Justin, it's 24 hours and all that. Did you guys ever do something about Taco Bell, or you could just eat a ton of it? Did you guys ever do that with your friends, or you went in there, and you just order, like, I'll have 15 tacos and 7 bean burritos, and let's just see who can eat the most. You can eat it with me.

Yeah, no, we were pro-pregnant. Tiny, you can eat about a million of the sticky tacos. What do you mean you broke? That's like, literally what I just said. It's $1 each. Yeah, no, but I mean, like, when I was a kid, like, we went tiny. You could eat about a million of the steak talk, bro. That's like literally what I just said is dollar each. Yeah, I know, but I mean like you, when I was a kid, like we went to McDonald's on the 29 cent hamburger and 39 cent cheeseburger day and you, you ate what you could afford the three or four dollars that was in your, you know,

inside your little ash trailer. You know, I would do that when I was broke. I go talk about for sure. No, when I was bulking, this is back when I had no idea what the hell I was doing. I was like, I go talk about for sure. No, when I was bulking, this is back when I had no idea what the hell I was doing. I was like, oh, cheeseburger, and it's 99 cents, all eat seven of them, and that's gonna be all kinds of protein, and that's what I would do.

Not realizing it's mostly bread. Yeah, that's all bread. I haven't had that in a long time. I'm trying to think of like the last time I had any of these. Talk about been a really long time, because I do remember the last time that I do, yeah, it just tore my, and I all I could think about is like, man, as a kid, I used to eat this like daily, like how did this not tear me up back then? Or was I that,

this is that oblivious? I think it's long-term effects. Now you have the diarrhea, you know, front back when you were, you know, when you were a kid. Speaking of, uh, of, we'll go ahead Doug. Oh, yeah, the grape, the grape nuts nutrition facts are here. A half cup of that stuff is 200 calories. That's more like it. And 47 grams of carbs. And a half cup. And a half cup, which is not.

Very dense. Dude, I swear to God, you eat a bowl of that and you go take a nap for a couple days. Well, do the map, okay, so a normal like bowl, if you guys like a normal, like not crazy oversized, like two cups, three. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's closer to like three cups of cereal inside like a normal bowl that you would get so 300 grams of carbs Yeah

1200 calories. Yeah, if you would if you were to feel like a normal and that's a normal ball Not a big like I eat a big old bowl normally like the magic spoon stuff, so yeah, you would yeah It looks kind of like that actually You know you know it's you know it know, it's designed for, and we bought them like for, I think I have like eight of them because Katrina's like, she got so tired of like me having to constantly keep going back to fill the little ones up. So they're like serving bowls that I use for. Yeah. Living the top of wear.

Yeah. It's not top of wear, but it's like, but like that, you know what you would put on like, if you had like mashed potatoes, you were serving on the dinner table. And that's what you eat through your life, if you had like mashed potatoes, you were serving on the dinner table. That's what you eat cereal as a chip bowl. Yeah, we were over my parents' house and my mom, she's so old school that if something is still good, she just won't throw it away. So let me explain.

So I went over there the other day and I was looking for a bowl to feed the baby with and I opened the cabinet where I remember all the bowls are and I see the cereal bowls that we used to eat out of when I was a kid. Like, they're like Ninja Turtle bowls and like, you know, duck tails, you know? And I'm like, mom, I'm like, I ate out of this bowl.

Why is it still here? It's still good. It still works. I'm like, what are you doing? Oh, my mom saw those commemorative like Star Wars ones you get from like, you know, one of those fast food, like, or, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Talk like, yeah, so these are the few things. Oh my God, my parents used to keep the cups like that. Like when McDonald's would do like a collaboration with one of those and then we use those, like forever as drinking cups. No, and what we know about Zeno Estrogen's now, I wonder how much of that shit is released. Yeah, I do.

I do wash it to your dishwasher. So, you just all release it. Hey, so you guys wanna hear like some crazy, I read this crazy medical story that I had, I couldn't believe, and I looked it up in other places. It's a real thing. So here's what happened. This is like the headline of the story.

A man went to the doctor because he kept ejaculating out of his butthole. That's not okay. Yes, it is, dude. That's not real. Yes, it is. I have left the building. No, no, this is real. So I looked it up and I read it and he went and got tested. And they found semen and urine in his through that kept coming out of his anus. It's because his boy has somebody somebody put it up there? Yeah, no. It's not because he's just pumped him full of.

Yeah, I can't figure this out. How is this happening? No, no, no, no, no, no, here's what happened. Here's what happened. Years ago, he went to the hospital. So I read the same thing. I'm like, what? How is that even?

Like, what the hell is going on? It's got to be the weirdest thing ever. No, what happened was he got treated at one point for I don't Remember what it was a drug overdose or something and so they had to give him they had to do something where they Why cross the plumbing? Yeah, look the plumbing the room. No, so you know that he's a catheter So you know how they'll they'll do a catheter and Okay, so they did all these procedures because he was out so that he could, you know, relieve himself.

I just picture like this young doctor in there first time, everybody's like, oh, I think it's the green one with the red one. Yeah, all right. Fuck, just do it this way. Trust the, trust the, oh man. Well, what happened was they must have injured him and not realized it and they produced the fistula

in his anus and somehow it went in connected to the part. Oh, what's a fistula? Yeah, and you get a fist in your anus and somehow it went and connected to the part that was a fistula. Yeah, and you get a fist in your anus. No. It's not good. Wow. I think this is going to fall. I know, Doug was so excited to get to this.

Doug looked at that notes and goes, why does it say butt stuff on the notes right now? I know, butt stuff for sale. pus-filled and kind of infected, and it can grow. And what happened was, is it came into the plumbing that goes to his urethra, or his penis, or whatever, and he didn't know this. And so then it healed, but then things would leak through.

And so they figured out, because at first the doctors were baffled, how the hell is this happening? Then through testing and stuff, they figured this this out and they were able to fix it and he's a completely fine now but it was written in articles because how crazy so it wasn't actually seeming it was pass no no no no okay think of like plumbing that goes to your butt think of the plumbing it's sickle okay you could literally if there's if there's damage you can get the two connected and so things can move in the wrong direction.

Luckily, he wasn't pooping out of his penis. Luckily, it was the other way around because that would have been weird. But that's that that would have been weird. That's is that all really possible? Yes, that's what happened. It has to be the first time ever in history if we ever had somebody do this before. Okay, so here's the by the way, this is in futurism.com. So sorry, Doug. How conflicted are you too, and you gotta take it dump.

Like, ah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't, no, I don't, always when you're on board. I can't tell the boys when you're on board now too, for some reason. So this is in futurism.com. Sometimes they've got some good articles. The title of it was, and it's funny, because it's like a science article.

Yeah. And the title is Doctors Intrigued by Man Who Gives That Of His Butthole. So, anyway, this was, that's what happened. So, they found, so ready for this, so they called it recto-erethrural fistjula, an extremely rare condition in which there's a new anatomical connection between the urethra and the rectum. And this was caused by that procedure that he had. And sometimes that can happen with abdominal surgeries, rectal manipulation and penetration or rectal trauma.

I feel like this is when your skeletons were fun facts. Oh yeah, that's what I took. That's what I took out my favorite meme. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's like uncomfortable facts. Yeah, yeah. The more you know. Yeah.

Since we're already uncomfortable and we're just gonna stay on this for a second. Here's another one because, you know, I looked this up and then other stuff came up to you and I thought, this is all good. The typical you, right? You read this and you go down the rabbit hole. I love it, dude. I mean, you find the most random. You outranded me, dude. I've never met A.B.A. cannot read. I brought so random. It's great. Listen to this, right? So this is another article, and this is an IFL science. They often have cool stuff in there too. A 15 year old boy was hospitalized after inserting a USB cable into his penis

in a highly dangerous attempt to measure its length according to a new case report. In? Yeah. Now here's what I think. I don't think he was trying to measure his penis. I thought he was getting weird with himself, and he tried- and he came up with a really good excuse.

Yeah. Nonetheless, that's what happened. At the two distal ports of the USB wire were found to be protruding from the external urethral medias, I don't even know what that's the thing, the medias. Yeah, I mean, it's got a square end to it, so it's a lie. Yeah, we'll stay. The middle part of the knotted wire remained within the urethra. He was otherwise fit and healthy adolescent with no history of mental health disorders.

So he got and they actually have an x-ray of the cable in his junk. He was just trying to get connected. Dude, why is he? He's not going Plug it in. I'm receiving radio waves. Let me see if I can download some information to myself. The hell dude, they're weird. You know what dude? Why is it 9 out of 10 times it's a guy? It's always a guy. That's our wave.

It's more weird. Way more weird. They'll do crazy shit. Speaking of cable wires. You like the transition? Concast. Wow. I should get extra points.

It's probably some transition that you speak to there. Wow. I should get extra points real attention. I'm trying to show that to the speakers. I thought I'd try to do. I'm going to go like, well, what if I read lately? I could get us out of this, Doug. Thanks, Adam. So, Concast is making TVs now. So, did you know that? Oh, I think it's really interesting.

Yeah, yeah. So, I just thought that was an interesting read that, I mean, you're seeing more and more businesses doing this, right, where they're ecosystem, right? Apple, I think, you're seeing more and more businesses doing this, right? Where they're their ecosystem, right? Apple, I think, is the most notorious for, you know, bringing everybody in house and then selling you everything that's connected or related to their products or whatever. Yeah, because then Apple gonna make a car at one point.

Yeah. I think it's still on there. Yeah, it's still on there. I don't know when this was a lot. Maybe Doug, you could help me out, because I did just briefly read the article. And it was the only thing I could think of that could transition us out of a wire and a penis conversation. So yeah.

I was watching TV with Jessica the other night and we were talking about TVs and stuff and I said, you know how many, these are essentially TVs are just computers now. They used to just broadcast signals but now it's literally just a computer with apps and they go on the internet and then you can download apps and that's all it is. It's literally whatever, a week computer on a nice TV screen and you can put it anywhere you want in your house,

plug it in and- And with streaming, you don't need any, it's so cool. Nothing, you don't need any wired, I bought a, guy was like a 42 inch, I want to say 42, 200 and something bucks. I want it to be crazy. Yeah, I wanted something that I could put on the counter when I'm in the bath. So I want to be able to, it'd be in the bath. Oh my God, bro, I did the same thing.

Did you really? Yes. The new place we, the new place we did, it has like a Roman tub. And there's like a wall in front of it. Yeah, and I'm like this will be Perfect place for a TV and just cuz I don't know what what I said trust me. I know could shoot it as is not a fad I know what she loves it. Oh, yeah, it's awesome You send the tub and you put on your yeah, yeah, you put on your I mean, it's so cool that I mean it's a 40 inch

Which is a good which by the way, which is When I was a kid, 36 inch tube was the biggest and it was in the big wood thing. And it was a thousand pounds. Money is a good affordance. It's just a furniture. But now, I mean, this thing is, it's so lightweight that I just, when I'm dunking the bath, I put it in my closet and it's all it needs

is the plug and wire. I've downloaded all my apps to stream. Couldn't cast anything for my phone or whatever. And it's a, you do like to take baths. I'm a big bath guy. How often do you take baths? Honestly? Yeah, you can tell the truth.

Yeah, I'm like, it's like, you can be revealing here. Probably four or five times a week. Wow. Yeah, on the minimum, sometimes every day. Wow, that is a lot. Also, well, one, we have those, we have like bath tubs at bubbles. Fibbles or no bubbles? We do have, I have salts and candles.

No, no candles. You don't like candles? If I'm by myself, no candles. Katrina's coming in of candles and salts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have the Epsin Salt stuff and then the... So how much salt do you add? Because I started using Epsin Salt too.

And we have like a jar. Like eight, that's what we do. Yeah, you have a set up like we do. Like eight tablespoons or so. Oh, you use tablespoons? Well, it's a big wooden scooper. Yeah, you have a set up like we do. Like eight tablespoons or so. Oh, you use tablespoons? We have a big wooden scooper. Yeah, we have like a little plastic scooper that she just keeps in there and it's thrown in.

I'd say probably eight or so, I'd throw in. Do you notice a difference? In what? Epsom salt versus no salt. Oh yeah, like it pulls all the water. Like if I have like, if I'm like bloated and stuff like that, that's what it'll help out with that. Plus I love that.

You're cracking me up right now. You did baths and um'm what would you do? Cute cucumbers on the eyes. I do I do like baths man And I also when I was getting to was that my son and I so I bathed with Max still right So you know, I could probably only do that for a little while till it's weird right so Right now it's not with a 30-drill 13-year-old. Yeah, I take more school than this. 16, right?

It's a slap for real. So long as it's normal, I take advantage of it. He loves to get in the bath and the thing is so big. And I like to come at home when I come home. I like to relax and do that. So that's a routine. Oh, it's funny, actually, as it reminds me. Because, I mean, they're at the age where it's not weird yet you know

for naked or whatever but like we were just in the shower and like Ethan wakes up he's like walking in and then we're in shower and like he just like was like oh like he like he caught us for something like they were saying a shower nothing's happening you know like just waiting for the day where something is happening. Oh no. It was close. It was wrestling. Yeah, I know. My kids are old enough, my older kids are old enough now to where like, you know, you get into it, right?

You get into it with your girl. And you lose a little bit of like awareness of maybe how loud you may be or if the bed's banging, or whatever, right? And you're in the moment. It's banging. You know what I mean? And then afterwards,

I gotta fix my bed. Afterwards, you, you, you find me. Like? And then afterwards, I gotta fix my bed. Afterwards, you think, I think to myself and I go, oh shit, were we a little bit like, are we loud or whatever? So I'll kinda walk out the hallway and my kids have their music on loud and I'm like, oh fuck.

I'm not wondering if they were like, turn up the music. I'm hearing some shit. I've never happened to do that. Coming out. Yeah, so we have the bath too. And I started doing that too, not five days a week though. I do like maybe once a week here and there.

Well, you don't take it with your son at all, no? I, once, I did it with him, it's fun, right? It's fun with the kid. But Jessica and I have done it a couple times, but here's the thing, she likes to relax and talk in the bath. If she gets in the bath with me, I'm five minutes in and I'm like, are we doing this or what? Like, I don't know, because we're already naked.

Water's here, you're on me. Like, I can't do it. I can't just sit there and relax in the tub. You're like a 16 year old boy, dude. Yeah, I know. So she knows now, she'll be like, I'll be like, you wanna take a bath together? And she'll be like, yeah, okay.

Okay. We're not relaxing, right? Yeah, we're not. We're not gonna be relaxing. So Comcast, you know what I'm saying, Doug, this year by this year they'll have TVs. Yeah, let me pull that back down. You're interesting to see how good they are.

Yeah, I'm saying it's how competitive it'll be. Dude, cause like Sam, so I love the frame. I've had two now, this is my second one. And it's just so cool that it looks literally like a picture frame, it's so thin. Yeah. And you can just display like art on it and it blends in, you know, doesn't even look like a TV. Yeah, it's cool. It's so thin. And you can just display like art on it, and it blends in, you know,

doesn't even look like a TV. It's cool. It's wild. Well, with them, I mean, because they have, you know, cable and, you know, obviously like internet, like, and so I would think they're gonna start doing bundling packages. Yeah, maybe buy the TV, get a discount.

Yes, right? Or, yeah, buy TV free internet service, if so long as you have that or the other way around, right? Free TV, if a discount. Yes, right. Or buy TV free internet service, if so long as you have that, or the other way around, free TV, if you sign up for your- Not a bad idea. Of course. Especially without cheap TVs that become to make,

what a great way to lock people in. You're kind of on the fence, oh, should I go through AT&T? Oh, well, Comcast, I get a free 50-inch plasma, if I just sign up for a year. Like, that's kind of a no-brainer right? I meant are they ditching the Xfinity thing or they still because like that was like you know, they're going through all this rebranding rebrand because the

Concastly no, no, it's Xfinity. I know I should say Xfinity because that's what it is right because it Xfinity I don't understand like How the breakdown which is which yeah who who owns what or like how what's included in the... It's a say a dud. Yeah, so they're working with Walmart and a TV manufacturer, high sense, not familiar with them, on smart TVs that are supposed to hit retail outlets later this year. Wow.

That's insane. You know, I was reading an article on smart contacts. Have you guys seen the technology that they're... They're smart contacts? Contact lenses. Oh, yeah. So these are contact lenses that at night, you plug them in and you charge them during the day you put them on.

And while you're wearing them, it augments reality. And so the first people that they're going to kind of target with this are people with visual issues. So like you could put it on and it'll be able to zoom in on certain things or whatever you're focusing on will come in clear and sharper or if you have a you know, macular degeneration, it'll it'll it'll project the image closer to you so you could see the edges in front of you. And then of course, you're gonna be able to, for the average consumer, it'll be able to pull up internet searches and superimpose things

on top of things in front of you. So crazy is our world gonna get. Bro, you know what comes in my ears? It's fucking weird, dude. Stuff like that. What I think about right away when stuff like this comes out, like my brain automatically goes to like this whole biohacking and being able to like,

you know, make your eyes digital and being able to make your eyes digital and be able to manipulate with augmented reality. What I think right away is hackers. Like how fucked up is that? Someone hacks your contact lenses and you wake up and like a scary monster is like a running straight hatch. You know what?

Weird shit like that dude. Imagine how easily you'll be able to manipulate people. That's what I'm saying. You're like alien invasion, everybody sees, but it's nothing. It's all in your contact. That's where my brain goes right away. We start getting more connected with the web

and digital stuff like that. Well, think now, now let's move into the cool good side, right? Imagine technology in your contact lenses that'll be able to pick up weapons. There's a guy he's got a gun over there or you know crime was just committed. It'll show you what's going on or or even this you go to a restaurant and immediately when you look at the sign just like they have one of those QR codes, right? You look at the sign and it'll give you

the rating on you know Facebook. The rate you know here's people that you know that have gone there and what they said about it And you'll just be able to look at the place. Well get that I remember reading about the internet of things you guys familiar with that It's it was a whole movement like I don't know if it's in the 90s or whenever the internet started like people started to try to Catalog like everything Possible like in the world to find it and all that stuff. And so it had just been this digital catalog that they keep building upon.

And so eventually it was gonna feed into something like this, right? So if you're looking around, basically everything has a definition and based off of shape recognition or whatever, geolocation and all that kind of stuff, they have it to that specific. That amount of data is gonna be possible, it's crazy. It's mind-blowing, but this has been years and years

of people just contributing to it. That's wild. Don't think of law enforcement. Imagine law enforcement having these contacts and the contacts being able to pick up slight nuances in pulse, body temperature. They already have predictive software that can pinpoint all the trends of crime.

So they've shown that in a few, I think it was in like Minneapolis or somewhere in the Midwest that they had a lot of success with that. And you know what, you know what, it's funny? They shut that down oftentimes because it goes to certain areas and then people say it's discriminatory.

Like you're targeting, like, lower income. Even though it's really effective, from a crime perspective, it comes across as discriminatory, so there's definitely, right. It's not trying to save lives because we might hurt feelings. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, that makes a lot of fun. You know, that's an issue. You know, it's going to be interesting is when, you know, I don't, Yeah, well, I mean, you know, that makes a lot of fun. You know, that's an issue. You know, it's gonna be interesting is when, you know, I don't know if this will ever happen

in our lifetime, but when law enforcement is no longer people, and it's just AI machines that are objective, they're totally objective. In this case scenario, dude, that's for sure that's a terminator. It won't go there first though. Do you think, I think we'll have your, you can just wash your robots and shit first

before that. You can still get through to a human. You know, like the robot thing is, that scares the shit out of me. Yeah, it does, totally. Anyway, so I'm gonna take a little bit of a left turn here. I kind of, again, went down another rabbit hole of exercises effects on mental and psychological health.

You know, we were, we were, and I don't want to give away too much, but we were talking to another company and they wanted us to, to, to, she could say that. Maybe do so. Yeah, I was bodybuilding.com and they wanted us to, to do some content

for them on exercise and anxiety and depression. So yesterday, I was like, you know what, let me look up some of the current studies on exercise and depression. And just the mental and psychological effects. And it really does blow me away how people by now, people are very aware of the physiological physical effects of exercise. Like everybody knows, or at least most people know, if you exercise properly and you do it consistently, you decrease your risk of pretty much all chronic diseases, you know heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc. You get leaner,

you have, you can move better, you have less pain, of course you look better. Everybody knows that, but very few people know that the psychological and mental effects are literally just as profound, like just as profound. So I looked up studies on depression, for example. Exercise is at least as effective as current antidepressant medications for helping people with mild to moderate forms of depression, which is the most common forms of depression. And I say at least as effective

because the studies are only so long, but what they look like is as they, as the studies extend and get longer, that exercise actually starts to outperform medications. Probably because there's no tolerance build up and no side effects, right? Because of the unpowering. Yeah, and then there's all the other aspects that you're getting with. Anxiety is another one. It's a very potent, both acutely and in the long term, anti-anxiety treatment to the point where they're now starting to consider it as a frontline treatment.

If somebody has anxiety, they'll say, well, let's try exercise. Like, it's so profound, it's incredible. It's like as effective as it is for physical health, it's as effective for mental health. So I think at some point, the conversation is gonna change and that's what we're really gonna focus on. This, the resistance training revolutions coming.

Oh, thanks. I like it when you plug my book. I appreciate that. Thank you. But anyway, by the way, I know your boy has been, not doing so, He's been sick. Yeah, he had a crew. Yeah, crew per strider.

I don't know if that's like the same. Yeah, there's different. Oh, so he has both, right? So that's what he was diagnosed with, right? So he's got that. And they say, really common for kids. Yeah. Especially once you start reducing them to like class settings, right?

So he just started school. Yeah, I just started school and I know Katrina's been talking to Courtney a lot because I know you guys actually battled that a lot with every right. Right. Yeah, and it's you know, it's not scary because it's common, but there's a scary side to it that as a parent because he can't breathe very well. Yeah.

So during the days, yeah, and the day, he's actually pretty good. Like right now, he's running around playing, probably with Katrina, they're outside. It's probably a beautiful day. And he has a runny nose and stuff like that. But other than that, he seems pretty good. But come night time, and he has to lay down and stuff. It starts to, he gets all congested

and then it gets in his chest. And then what will happen, he'll like fall, he'll start to dose off, and then it'll get all caught up and he'll, and he sounds like he's choking and then you he'll wake up and sit up and the sound of him gasping for air is just freaking no parent likes to hear that. So, and they say really cold air. So that was actually what Courtney was saying

that you guys used to even open the freezer and have the cold air and the doctor said that the cold air. So that was actually what Courtney was saying that you guys used to even open the freezer and have the cold air, and the doctor said that the cold air will bring the inflammation down and open it up a little bit so that air can get through there a little bit. And he said, cold air outside or whatever. So last night, and of course,

we literally have had the warmest weather. We've had, yeah, right? So the first time my house even hit 72 degrees. So we opened everything up, which for me, I love because Katrina doesn't like to sleep like that. And she was putting him to sleep. Yeah, because it gets really cool. We're gonna have it, my God.

Oh, yeah, really cool. Was it get down to like 50, 52, 55? Oh, yeah. So it gets, it gets even in the hottest part of the summer. It gets all the way down to that. So anyways, she was doing that. I was laughing like last night was the first time that I turned my chili pad to heat for her because she's been sleeping with Max and

our bed and she told me the other night when she was doing this that she rolled over, you know, already cold because everything's all cool in the house and some of that to try and help him. He mutafires blowing stuff and then my side freezing her out and I'm not even in there, right? So I turn, I turn mine all the way up so the whole bed was like nice and warm so she could be warm there but then the air is cold for him so he could breathe. Did it help? Oh yeah, I mean, the chili pad helped Katrina more than anything else keeping her, her warm, but the cold air helped her put her in.

But the cold air made a huge difference. It made a huge difference. Like he, I mean, he still is getting up like that, but I mean, the nights before it was like, I almost scary how long he was like gasping for him. Yeah. It freaked me out a little bit. Like, where I was like, we would put him down in his bed, and then he'd wake up a couple hours later, normally when like the medicine or something would wear off. And then he'd wake up like that. You could hear him on the the Nanit, and I was like, go get him. I'm normally like we're always good about like you know keep him in his room

Keep him we don't ever want to train him that coming in our room is okay But like right now. I'm like no, it's this is exceptional rule So mom and dad aren't getting very much sleep. We've actually this has been Worse for me than any time of him being a you know I remember told you guys that I was really lucky, Katrina really handled a lot of the nights, and it wasn't rough for us with his sleep, he was a good baby. So I never felt that really, really rough, you know,

go that most parents do for the first month or two of having him. This week has been rougher than anything. Like between her and I, like he's up every couple hours and so like we're having to take shifts where it's like I'll come home today right as soon as I get home she'll be like could you take him I just need to go nap for two or three hours because between her and I we're not getting a lot of sleep throughout the night right now.

That's the worst feeling as a parent because if they're like they're sick and there's nothing you can do. I mean you're doing everything you can. Yeah we've nailed everything. I know you were sending suggestions and I could do we already went through all the herb lists and all the natural foods, things do avoid and stay away from them, and it doesn't have much of an appetite. But I mean, the fact that he's just got like a common cold, I'm not worried, it's just,

it's hard to see him go through that. That's it. Yeah, and he's doing this thing right now, which I've never had him do before, or he'll just, he does, he does kind of want this winding, where you just, you could tell he's uncomfortable and doesn't feel good. I know, my buddy, I can't do anything.

I'm so sorry. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, speaking of the chili, by the way, my brother moved, didn't have the chili, so he'd been using it for a while because remember, they sent us that one and the idea, and he's like, oh, I love it, whatever. Anyway, he didn't have it for a little while

and he goes, dude, I didn't realize the difference it made in my sleep because he didn't have it. And little while and he goes, dude, I didn't realize the difference it made in my sleep because he didn't have it. And he's like, I wake up stiffer. I don't have, I don't feel as rested. He goes, it's traumatic. What a difference it makes to cool your head down. I really feel like that a lot of, like a lot of the stuff that we talk about. Another good example is that like, feel like, gray, right? Partners and stuff that we, if you don't pay attention to like sleep routine and like what like consistently pay attention,

which let's be honest, like where I'm a fitness dude and I really didn't for most my career pay attention to that. Like, you know, what was I doing to get ready for sleep? What kind of quality of sleep was I getting? To me, it was just like, oh, it was good or bad. I had a good night's rest, oh, I had a bad night's rest. Not like really trying to analyze like, oh, wow, I'm, I've noticed I've been very consistent with this.

It takes clients having it and then not having it to tell. So the same thing I get for feedback on Felix Gray's is the same thing that you just said with chili pad. It's like one of those things where people are like, you know, it's not like one of those things you're gonna do and be like, oh my goodness. I just notice this huge difference. It's like you do it for a while

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Our first caller is James from Georgia. Hey, what's up, James? How can we help you? Hey, guys. I'm so excited to be here today. I can't believe I'm actually talking to you guys. This is a dream come true. So a little bit about me currently in the Army National Guard right now, and I'm hoping to go to Ranger School to stop coming April. My current goal is trying to increase my endurance so that I can pass

a range of physical fitness tests, which requires me to be able to do 49 pushups in two minutes. 59 sit-ups in two minutes, five mile run, and 40 minutes to less. Six pull-ups. And then my personal goal is to get my five mile run down to 35 minutes here at home, so that way there's no doubt that I can go to the Ranger School and pass to RPFT. I'm also trying to increase my endurance with working 12 miles with a 43 pound rope. I need to be able to do this 12 mile rope in three hours or less.

Let's see. About a month and a half ago, I hired a personal trainer, a founding on Instagram. He claimed to have gone to Ranger School. He claimed to have gone to a range of school. He claimed to have worked with Special Forces Group and he claims to have been training soldiers like myself who want to go to a range of school or SF selection on the side for the past four or five years.

He's been having me do a lot of Metcons with long distance running as well as strength training all on the same training day. For example, in the first month, you have me doing four days a week of something like one of the training days was bench, three sets, four to six, 85% of your training max deadlift, building up 85% and doing two sets at 85% of three to six reps, sets at 85% of 3 to 6 reps, then doing a 21, 15, and 9 pull-ups and wall ball and toaster bar, MetCon as fast as you can, and then going into Inclined Dumbbell Bench, 3 sets of 8, Dumbbell Hammer Curls, 3 sets, 10 to 12, and then going in 4, 5 mile run at the end of it.

It was killing me doing stuff like that. I had not been doing Metcons. I'd been running Olive y'all's maps programs, maps aesthetics, maps, and a ball eight maps performance, maps strong, maps anywhere. I've been doing maps prime. And I mean, y'all made y'all last programs and, you know, like there's no make-ons in any of those. I was.

Intentionally, yes, I was dying. So after the first month, I talked to the guy, told him I couldn't do four days a week. I'm currently a RN that works in the hospital at a pediatric cardiac ICU, works night shift. And doing four days a week, I mean, I was going in there off of, but nicely, having the caffeine of just to be able to get through everything and body and love it. I mean, it was doing everything I could just to get home. I bet.

Since then, he's got me down doing three days a week now, pretty much the same style training. Let's say, yeah, doing three days a week, the same style training. I followed you guys for about three years now. I feel like he's just throwing everything in the kitchen sink at me without any real progression strategies. He also refuses to give out his personal phone number for me to be able to contact him or his actual last name. So I have no idea to even verify this to you. She's telling me to truth about anything. So, friend claims to have found him on Facebook.

Apparently she's good at stalking people. I don't know. It was kind of blind to remember whatever. Believe her, girls are really good at it. Yeah. We'll find a way. Anyways, like he wants me to contact with you. It was like companies Instagram and his company's email instead.

And he's pretty quick to email me back, but it's still kind of weird. I mean, y'all have given me a little red flags to look out for. And he kind of checks it all off. So my question, basically, is what would y'all recommend me do to increase my running endurance and rucking to get a five mile time to 35 minutes, a 12 mile rucking three hours or less, and then just trying to maintain as much muscle mass as possible to help me not get injured.

Yeah. How many times a week right now are you doing the rucking right now? How often do you test this? So what I do for rucking, the rucking I've not as worried about, I've been doing it for four years now. The best way I've learned to train for rucking is actually by biking. It's got my rut town down from three hours to in college, I was doing a 12 mile rep with a 50 pound rut and two hours and 15 minutes. Okay. Pretty good. You know, something that a lot of people kind of don't consider when it comes to, you know, passing physical type tests is that a great deal, a large percentage of your success

doing those tests is actually getting good at the skill of the components of that test. Okay, so to give you an example, you know, let's say you wanted to get better at doing pull-ups. Well, yeah, you can make your lats stronger, you can make your back stronger, doing different exercises, but one of the best strategies would be just to practice pull-ups because that will get you back stronger, but also it's practicing the skill that you need to actually, you know, do in this particular test. So training for specific tests isn't as complicated as people think. I think one of the best strategies you could do is literally practice the test a couple days a week, two or three days a week, do the tests that they're

going to be asking you to do in order to, you know, get into Ranger School. And then you may want to add one day a week of basic traditional strength training with mobility. And you'll probably be just fine. If anything, you'll notice that you'll improve, you'll improve at a pretty rapid rate. I'm glad you stopped what you were doing earlier when you noticed that you just had no energy to go to work. Yeah, that's, that's been your tires in the dirt. Yeah, that's a really, really big red flag. Like, you should not feel like your totally zapped and your performance is declining when you're doing a workout.

Well, if he's not doing any, if the test, the Ranger School doesn't require to do wall ball, there's no fucking reason for you to be doing that. There's other than just exhaust you to exhaust you. So it makes no sense. It makes no sense to you to be doing that. There's other than just exhaust you to exhaust you. So it makes no sense. It makes no sense to do a movement like that if it's not gonna benefit anything else that you're doing. But you know, you are, he is an example though, if somebody who, you know, we talk about weight vest,

like always the knucklehead guy who's wearing a weight vest in the gym that probably has no business wearing it. This is a perfect example of somebody though that this is, I would do the test and I would slowly scale the weight vest, right? So I would run the test with a lightweight weight vest, improve my time, start to slowly add weight to the vest. Sure.

Before you know it, you're going to, you're blazing through the test with, you know, 40, 50, 60 pounds on you and then whatever you need to do for the, I don't know what the weight, what's the weight for the actual test? 40, 50, 30, 35 pounds. Is that what you said? Yeah. For the Ruck, it's a 45 pound. 45 pound.

Yeah, so if you could get up to where you're doing 50 pounds, you know, going through the test, like, this incliner you doing it on like roads. It's on a road, so it'll be some incline, some decline. Yeah, so here's a good example of kind of what I'm talking about when I say, you know, use the test as your workout. What that doesn't mean is three days a week you do the exact test.

So in other words, you don't do the exact 49 pushups and as fast as you can and, you know, run your five miles and try and get it under 40 minutes. What it means is you're doing the exact same exercises, but in different, you know, different intensities and volumes. So for example, and this is just some throwing this out there, but in different, you know, different intensities and volumes. So for example, and this is just some throwing this out there, one day a week you may do the actual test. So you're doing the exact numbers, the exact times that you're aiming for in distances.

And try to improve it. And try to improve it. The other, one other day a week, it might be half. So cut everything in half, and then do the, do the exact test. And then a third day a week would be down to a third. So you're almost doing like a sprint in your training. So something like that would get you to improve quite dramatically.

And then one day a week of like four to five compound lifts and some mobility work, and you're probably gonna be better than okay. Where would you say is your biggest area of struggle in a row? Different items. The ride. The run. I can get the pushups on. I can get the setups. I can find it below. The Ruck, I'm not really that worried about. It's just one of those things that you just got to push through. But the run, my

five-mile run right now is currently sitting at like 43 minutes. And that's well rested going into the run at Ranger School. It's gonna be six o'clock right in early in the morning, probably earlier than that. We'll go into our Ranger Physical Fitness Test. So it's gonna be straightening the push-ups for two minutes, straightening the set-ups, straightening to the run. And are you getting up at six and sort of emulating that? Some days with your running schedule? Ah, it is.

Sorry, what was that? Are you emulating that in terms of like what time of the day you train and everything else? I try to, working nights is a little bit difficult usually. Yeah. My training schedule now is I work Sunday Monday Tuesday at the hospital Today's Wednesday. It's usually a rest day because I try to wake up around two o'clock So I can flip myself back today's and I'll be a night owl with nothing going on

Well, the endurance part is gonna be something that Friday Saturday. I'll get up early and get run Okay, yeah, just just a gradual progression that. If that's the area of focus, I would just like gradually start to include that a bit more throughout the week and start adding a bit more time devoted to that. The other thing that I might add that Sal, you didn't say on those example days is, you know, a strength day where you actually load all these

things, right? So maybe you're not getting 58 push ups or 69 sit ups or six pull upsups whatever, but load it. Do a heavy day. Sure. Do a heavy loaded day and get strong at all those movies. Very movements. Very rarely do you see people do like loaded sit-ups, but this would be a perfect example of one of those three or four days. I would do like some loaded sit-ups. So in other words, you're doing the same skills a few days a week. Some days it's the same distance and exactly like the test.

Some days it's loaded in much shorter amount of time or reps. More strength focused. Right. Other days it's shorter and faster. So you're practicing on sprinting through instead of running five miles, you're running two miles, but you're running it really fast. So that's what we what I mean by focusing on the skill of what you're running it really fast. So that's what I mean by focusing on the skill of what you're doing. You definitely wanna do some mobility work too

because you're doing the same movements over and over again. So you're running a lot, you're doing a lot of pushups, a lot of pull ups. If you don't do mobility work, if your technique and form is even off a little bit, you could find yourself with some nagging injuries and then forget it, right? You're not able to do what you wanna do

because things hurt. And then one day a week, you do like four basic strength training exercises and you should not fatigue yourself, you're just kind of practicing your dead lifts and your squats and your presses and that kind of stuff. And then you're probably pretty much set. Now, the other part of your question was keeping as much muscle mass as possible. I would forget, not that you're not going to keep muscle mass, but don't worry about that. Don't worry about aesthetics, don't worry about anything else. Not only that, that actually is not advantageous

for what we're training for. Yeah, just focus on performance because the Ranger schools, they don't give a shit what you look like and how great your picks look. They only care about your performance. Now after that, after you pass, and maybe you can train for aesthetics and that kind of stuff a little later,

but for now, it's all focused on performance and nothing is going to give you a greater return than actually practicing the things that you have to do in the test. I mean, it's quite remarkable. I've trained with athletes and people where I beat them at exercises all day long, but then when we do a specific skill, even if it uses the same muscles that I typically am stronger at, they kick my ass because they practice those skills so often. So don't discredit that. What you don't want to do is look at your overall general fitness as the goal, although that is an important thing to focus on, you want to look at the skills because the rangers school is testing you specifically on skills.

What they're not saying is, we're going to generally test your endurance and we're not going to tell you what we're going to do. We're going to generally test your chest and triceps strength, but we're not going to tell you what it is. They're literally telling you, you're running, you're doing push-ups, you're doing pull-ups, you're doing sit-ups, and you're going to be doing a rock. Because you know those specific things, you got to get good at them. Yeah, majority of you get strong at them,

build endurance around them. I mean, that's focused mainly around that. And like you said, I would only add a couple of the big four lifts in there, just to compliment some of that stuff, which I would not do it to fatigue. I would do straight sets, punny of rest. I think that would be a great strategy for you.

Yeah, anytime somebody needs to take a test for something, what they're actually, it's almost like this, like, okay, let me ask you a question, right? Let's say I was gonna test you on general physiology, and I'm not gonna tell you, on human physiology, and I'm not telling you what I'm testing you on. You'd have to learn the whole human body to prepare for some random test.

But what if I told you, here's the 10 questions that I'm gonna ask you on the test. What are you gonna spend your time focusing on, right? You're not gonna waste your time on general physiology. If you wanna pass the test, you're gonna focus specifically on the 10 things that I'm gonna test you on. So that's, they're literally giving you the workout.

That the only real thing you need to focus on programming is one day a week do exactly what they're gonna test you on, one day a week do it maybe half distance, half volume, try and do it faster, and another day a week do it even shorter but maybe loaded. And there you go. Now you're kind of phasing each one of those skills for strength, strength endurance, and then just endurance, and it's going to make you better at the test. Does that make sense? Yes.

Excellent. Now I know you said you had a lot of our program. You have them all, get them in the forum. Yeah, are you in our forum, James? I think I am still, I haven't paid for it in a while, but okay, so here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna charge you because you've been skating by yourself.

Yeah, I'm hanging with the hell's going on. You begin to waste, got free. No, I'm just kidding. If you are in there, James, what I would like, if you decide to fire your, your, no name trainer, is I would like for you to, yeah, to every month or so or every few weeks go in there and, and tag us. Yeah, I would love to hear the update on this.

Ask questions and there's other people in there. We have other military people in there who are experienced and other trainers and just, you know, get some consensus and kind of get some Virtual coaching, you know that way. I think that'll that'll benefit you greatly And then if you're not in there, we'll let you in for free by the way, and then James What's the etiquette if if you and I are friends and you pass ranger school and you get one of those shirts Can I wear one is that like okay? Or is that like frown upon I'm serious serious question. I can definitely get you on I don't want it until you make it.

When you make it, I want one in that rocket. And then if people ask me, I'll say James is my friend. Yeah, I don't think you can say you're a ranger. It's got to say something like that. No, no, no, no, I used to have one. My boy had one. And it just says ranger across the six shirt. Yeah, I know you know, right, James?

Yeah, they look awesome. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. And they don't just like hand them out all over the place. So it's like they're rare to get a hold of. And I want to make sure I have a friend that I can say that's it that's a ranger right now So when you get past you do that you hit me up and then you do all the hard work Send us an extra medium extra medium. Yeah, thanks James Thank you, no problem. Yeah, when you it's when you have a specific test You know that they're gonna test you on.

They're literally giving you generally the workout that you want to, it's almost like they're giving you the answers. Why do, why does this, CrossFit make it way into so many things like this? Because that's immediately what they think is like, I gotta get all this endurance and strength all at once and so just, that's the one where everything gets, you know, so muddy because they just smash it

all together. You know what I, it kind of works, that's why. Because it's a very temporary window. I mean, if this poor guy wasn't it. It works better than nothing. Right. Well, I mean, if he wasn't like, you know, working and had a life on top of training, he probably could sustain this, you know, ridiculous amount of training that they have on going

on. And then he'd probably build so much resiliency that he would be able to power through the test and actually do okay. So maybe he would pass this test with this going this way. But there's such a smarter way to go about it. I love the analogy. I've never heard any of us use the analogy like that. Like, you're right. Like, you have a test.

You know what the questions are. You could go study a million other things related to that, you know, all the other exercises that they exist. Or just refine what's actually gonna be there. Yeah, or just know those 10 questions inside and out. I love breaking that apart, like you said, with different approaches to each one of those types of exercises,

so you do it fast, you do it long, you know, you do like a slower, gradual kind of progression of it. That's, I think I could add a little bit to what you said because one would, I definitely think that you should do a heavy strength component. Sure. I think that would, it's like phasing the test, right? Yeah, I think a heavy strength,

and then I would actually even do one that probably pushes him a little bit further. So that would be- Really push the endurance out of it? Yeah, so, and then exactly, it's just more focus on focused on maybe he doesn't have the the the vest on or yes half the weight of the vest and then I would exceed the the distance. I don't pass the amount of time that you're still doing. Yeah. So give him so he's so he's building that tank a little bit so you have like an endurance day. Right. You have kind of like a really heavy power strength a strength day and then something maybe

in the middle. I mean, but the key is you're practicing the same skills. That they're gonna test you on. That makes the biggest difference. I mean, look, if one of the biggest examples of what we're talking about is the Olympics, right? The Olympics are one of the most competitive places where you're gonna see athletic performance worldwide. And in the early days of the Olympics, what people thought would make the best

athlete was general athletes. So shop putters, long distance runners, wrestlers, they all kind of looked the same. But eventually because they're so competitive and you wanted your country to win, you started to notice what was called the democratization of these particular events, where shop putters look nothing like long distance runners. And that's because to particular events, where shop putters look nothing like long distance one runners, and that's because to be a very good shop putter means you probably look a lot different and train a lot different.

Different leverage. That's right, so if they're telling you what they're gonna test you on, practice those skills and only do other skills as a way to prevent injury, to prevent imbalances, to improve mobility, but the whole approach where you're like, oh, you need strength and endurance. Okay, here's what we're going to do.

We're going to do all this stuff that's around strength and endurance and do very little of the skills that they're going to test you on. That's the wrong approach, complete wrong approach. Our next caller is Jack from Missouri. Hey, what's up, Jack? How can we help you? Hey, what's up, guys? How you doing?

Good, man. Good. All right, so quick background to start. I'm a 20 year old college student right now. I've been listening for about six years, but the first three were in high school and it was mainly center round football and basketball and track. So it wasn't necessarily all calculated out as more performance-based.

But so I left or I entered my senior year at 280. I was a detackle so I was eating everything I could see. So left or enter that year 280 right I'm about 190, but the lowest I got was 175. But I've been for about the past six months. I've been reverse dieting and on a bulk. And I've gotten the calories up from about 1800 at the beginning, they saw some skewed thing I saw online to 3500 right now and that is about a couple hundred over my maintenance. But adjusting to getting in 3500 has been a little bit difficult and some days I'll get home later than expected and I don't really feel like putting down two pounds of meat or six cups of rice or some shit like that.

So I don't, I miss out on calories that day. So my question is, if I don't reach the calorie and macro goal for one day and hit under, buy about 600 or more give or take. Should I try and make those calories up the next day and add them to what I was already planning on eating or should I try and disperse it out throughout the rest of the week or should I just omit it and call it good? First of all, Jack, you're kicking ass, dude.

And say, did you say you're kicking ass, dude. Did you say you're 20? I am 20. You sound like a man, man. Right? He's not sounding like he doesn't sound 20 to me for some reason. You don't sound 20, bro. Well, you got to do a 280.

You say that. Yeah, dude. No, you're doing phenomenal right now. Yeah, that's a huge increase in your caloric intake and maintaining that's that's phenomenal very very good Yeah, I should I should thank you very much I should never been that low. I'm pretty sure I saw something when I was starting out beginning quarantine. I said like 1600 calories was what I should be eating and being 64 into 80 is not what I should have anything. No, no, but you're in a you're in a great place and

It would be interesting here with the other guys, ad, but I actually wouldn't worry too much about those days and the only thing that I would caution you, okay? So what happens to me when I'm bulking and I know sometimes it's hard, like I've been up to places

where I'm pushing four or 5,000 calories and then I'd have those moments where I'm like, shit. I'm 1,000 calories behind and I'm already fooled. I do I stuff myself. No, I'm not going to stuff myself. But when I always notice on those days, when I go to bed, lighter on calories the next day, I, the appetite like kicks up. And then that's also the times where I, I tend to play this game in my head where I go like, wow, I was a thousand calories low yesterday. I'm starting right now. So today I'm gonna swing by and get that double bacon,

cheeseburger and fries that I really wanted I haven't had in a long time. And you kind of play that game and you tend to go off your plan because you're so hungry and you make worse than other than that. If you actually stay on the diet the next day and you eat good and you're solid, I actually wouldn't even worry about the day or two here

and there that you actually don't hit your target. Yeah, you're overthinking it. 100%. You're doing a great job. I mean, unless you have a specific like targeted goal where you're like, okay, I'm gonna gain this much lean body mass by this point or I'm gonna get on stage or I'm gonna compete.

But if your goal is just, you know, you wanna keep doing this. You like it, you enjoy it. Sounds like you do. You've been doing it for five years. You started as a 15 year old and you're 20 now. So you've probably built pretty good consistency discipline and you probably have a good relationship with it for the most part just because you started so young.

I think you're overthinking it, man. Don't worry about it. Now, some days are going to be lower. Naturally, you'll probably make up for it on other days, but I mean, you got your calories over 3,000 and you feel good and on some days it feels like it's maybe too high. Yeah, I don't worry about it, dude.

You're doing fine. Listen to your body. Keep going on the track that you're going on because what you don't wanna do is create a kind of stressful environment around your food, where you're like, oh my gosh, it's 11 o'clock at night. I'm under calories. Do I stuff myself?

How do I make up for this tomorrow? Do I spread this out over the next whatever days? You're 20, you're 20 years old. Like this is a type of stress that why add this to your life? You're doing absolutely fine. I would seriously not worry about it for the most part. You're based on what you're telling me, you're crushing, you're kicking ass.

Sounds like you're getting a lot of it from Whole Foods, too. Are you supplementing it all? Yeah, I'm trying to get a lot from Whole Foods, it's kind of on the college budget, so it's just achieved this I can do right now, it's just a shit ton of chicken thighs, but yeah, I'm supplementing, I'm just taking, I mean,

fish oil, cretin, protein, pre-workout, kind of like the basics. I'm Ashwaganda Moulthai. I actually ordered some mass zimes the other day using your guys' code. So thank you for that one. And so those will add the join the crew, but yeah, that's about it. Have you tried the enzymes yet? I have not, no sir. Yeah, I'd like to hear your feedback on how that helps with digestion, especially when you're pushing calories.

It may be. Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for because I mean, there are gonna be some meals that are much greater than the other ones. So digestion help would be killer. But I swear to God, Jack, you're doing great. Yeah, you're overthinking it. I got nothing.

Yeah. You're totally overthinking it. Just, you're good if you miss a day because you weren't that hungry or you felt like you had just stuff yourself. Okay, no big deal. You just go back on the next day. Don't worry about trying to make up for it.

Now, here's the other side. Like what Adam was saying, although he kind of explained it as something that might be negative. Don't freak out about it. But, here's the other side, like what Adam was saying, although he kind of explained it as something that might be negative, don't freak out about it. But if the next day you're hungrier, and instead of going to 3300 calories, you go up to 35 or 36, okay, that's okay. You know, our bodies really,

we didn't evolve eating the same amount of calories every single day. We probably ate a lot sometimes and very little other times. There's probably some health benefits to doing so. Plus life works itself out that way. There's gonna be some days where you're gonna wanna go out with your girlfriend or hang out with your buddies

and you're gonna eat a little more and there's gonna be times when you're like, you know what, like here's what happens for me. Like if there's days where we're doing a lot of podcasts and interviews, I like to eat less on those days. I feel sharper, I'm faster on my feet, so to speak. And so those days I just eat a little bit less and it's not that big of a deal.

So it gives you a little bit more flexibility on other days to do that. But don't overthink it. You don't want to create this kind of stressful environment around exercise and nutrition. You're doing so good. The only thing, like I said, I would caution is just being aware of your behaviors, right?

So I know the tendencies that I have when I under-consumed by that many calories on one day is I tent the appetite is kind of roaring, and then that also is what will make me make, I might eat a whole bag, if there I was gonna eat a whole bag of chips one day, like that's the day it would happen because I'm so low on calories from the previous day,

I'm hungry right now, and so I go, oh, I'll have a little bit extra calories like Sal is saying, but then a little extra calories ends up being 2000 in carbohydrates. I miss my protein intake for a day. And that's the only thing I can see negative about what you're doing already is if you're aware of that and you know that's the tendencies that you may or may not have and just caution it, pay attention to that. Having a low day every once in a while, it actually is probably very, very, very beneficial to you.

Now, Jack, we like to give people something free when they ask us a question. Do you have, based on what you're saying, you've been working out for a while. What programming? You've probably got a good workout. Are you following any maps programs at all? I'm not. I've read about antibiotic, strong performance in aesthetic to try and see, um, which one would kind of fit.

I, like I told you, I'm in a bulking thing right now. And, um, yeah. With your experience, I would go antibiotic or aesthetic. I mean, you've been working out for, for a while now. Esthetic might even be appropriate for you. So how many days a week are you training? Um, I know this is against your guys advice, but seven and I'm doing five lifting

and then the other two days I watch your guys' webinar for mobility. For mobility, yeah, and I do the mobility routine at this cardio and I do summer cover. Yeah, you're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. We're gonna send you maps aesthetic. So if you wanna follow good. You're doing good at that either. You're doing good.

All right, we're going to send you maps aesthetic. So if you want to follow one of our programs, I think that one will probably be appropriate for someone with your level of experience. Yeah. And to wear it around. That's a great thing. Thank you guys. Go there.

And then the next one I'd love to see you do is strong. I think strong will be great for where you're at right now. Yeah. You're doing great, bro. Good job, man. Thanks for calling. Yeah, yeah. Real quick. Also, I'm going to go ahead and hear it with every single goddamn call you get.

But I, you guys have actually changed my perspective on health and fitness because you aren't putting out like the normal bullshit like do this like for 30 days to drop 50 pounds or some show you putting out stuff that is meant to optimize health and mental health as well. And I think that is killer. And I've put or I've tried to put basically my entire campus onto your guys podcast. I put my whole family on it. Awesome. Can't get enough ears. So thank you all very much. Much appreciated. Appreciate that. Appreciate the support, Jack.

Thank you, bro. Yeah, of course. Take care of him. Yeah. So, you know, what I want to talk about is how his voice made you feel. Yeah. Did he sound like a 20 year old? Yeah, I do.

You know, man. Not even like the way he talked his cadence. Yeah. He sounded like just a grown ass man. He looked what he looked like. Do you look like a grown ass man or what? Yeah, he doesn't look, you know, 20 or young. 20s, yeah, dude. Dude, he's way ahead of the... He's crushing. Yes, he is. You know what I like about hearing about something like this is that

he started so young. He started at the age of 15. He stuck with it this entire time. He's at the age of 20, he's where a lot of people will be, you know, with exercise in their 30s because he's now, after you've done it for, if you've worked out consistently for five plus years, that's when you really start to figure things out a little bit, I think, especially if you have a healthy approach.

So it's really cool to hear, you know, to hear his kind of his input. But yeah, you know, the thing about nutrition and exercises, at the end of the day, it should not add stress to your life. If it does, it can become something that's unhealthy itself. So if you're doing good and everything's going great, you don't want to freak out because one day is off, that'll do the exact opposite of what you're trying to accomplish

with a fit and healthy lifestyle. Yeah, and even, I love this guy, dude, that even his, you know, he was a, he was a, he was a, that's what a man crashed. Yeah. Even his seven-day approach to fitness, I like. Yeah, it was great. I mean, he started to say it like, I know you guys don't like this, but then when he said, I'm like, fuck.

Yeah, but that's five days of resistance training. He's doing mobility two days. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm about it, dude. So I like everything that this guy is doing right now. I think he's got a great relationship with the exercise. I think he's got a great strength. I think the fact that he's gone from 1800 calories up to 3000 plus calories, that's awesome.

And then he's actually in a place where he's like, oh, I'm full for the day. Like, what a great place to be, you know, the only thing. And I just, when I know when I eat low calories like that My body wants to make up for it sometimes the next day and if I if I do stray if I do make it yeah It's that day, you know, and you and you kind of play that justification like You know I ate late last yesterday, and so yeah five guys two bacon cheeseburgers today I think I'm gonna do that You're doing to me right now Adam? Our next caller is Sir Hod from California.

Hey what's up Sir Hod, how can we help you? Hey guys, how's it going? Good, right. So a few months ago, I had this lower back pain and funny enough, just a day later, my shoulder pain. And I wasn't able to tell exactly on how it happened. It was probably due to repetitive exercising and a little bit overdoing it.

So I decided to take a break for a few weeks and just do some light training and swap lifting with some cardio. And a few weeks later maybe I'll recover and I can get back to my actual lifting. So two weeks, two weeks passed by, I'm doing a cardio, I'm not lifting and I didn't feel like I was getting better. And the more I put cardio, the more I started doing cardio, it became this kind of like I got stuck in this situation where I'm doing more and more cardio and less and less lifting. And my appetite started dropping as well because I wasn't lifting as much. I wasn't sending those built muscle signals and so I got stuck in this situation where I'm doing a little more cardio less lifting

and because of my injuries. So I went with in this route for a couple months and now I have, I'm a little bit better on the hip but shoulder still bothering me. So I started including some lifts in my routine and surprisingly I can do any leg movements, like any leg training really well, the hip doesn't bother me but the shoulder actually bothers me on my presses and any overhead movement is out of the charts. I just can't do it. So I'm doing very little lifting like maybe two days a week. I do a really good leg session but rest of the week is mostly light weightlifting, light arms, and maybe some dead lifts and carries. And since I'm not as active as anymore, I still am doing a little bit of cardio, and I'm doing a little bit of hit as well because I want to use the hit's ability

to maintain some muscle mass because that's what research research shows. And but also I'm stuck in this low calorie dot-ish situation and I'm trying to reverse out of it. But I'm kind of happy with how I look right now, although I've lost more than enough muscle mass, I'm okay with how I'm looking with this right now, but I feel like my calories are really low for someone calories are really low for someone as active as I am,

especially with cardio, but I'm afraid to bump it up because I'm not lifting as much, I'm not sending those muscle-building signals, and I'm afraid that any additional calories that I'm gonna put in are gonna be converted to fat instead of building muscle. So my question is, how would you guys plan your diet and your trainings in situations like this? And if you want to learn more on what exercises I can do

and can't feel free to ask, and I just didn't talk maybe to go into those details. Yeah, so SirHod, so let me paint the scenario for you, okay? Imagine you're driving your car and every time you turn to the left, you hear a loud clinging noise. So every time you go left, you hear a loud clinging noise. Now there's two things you could do. You could either go to the mechanic and they can address why that's happening or you could stop turning left. Okay. So the choice that you've made is to stop turning left. You're basically saying, here's what's hurting. I'm going to stop doing that and I'm just going to do other stuff and then maybe it'll get better on its own. It won't. The problem is you're not addressing the root cause. I really

don't care about anything else that you're doing If you can't figure out why your shoulders hurting and why your lower back is hurting and it sounds like you've done nothing specific to rehab those areas you've done no specific Mobility work. Don't worry about exercises to build your shoulders and to develop your body If you can't address the root cause none of those matter anyway. It really doesn't matter. So I could help and kind of try to assess here through this call. I noticed, I could kind of see you on video. It looks like you're pointing to the front of your shoulder.

When you talk about front shoulder pain, is it in the front of your shoulder? Yeah, it's the front of the rotator cuff here, the point where it connects to the upper chest, but it also shoots down to the elbow a little here in this corner. Yeah, that's. And that also prevents it from doing a heavy bicep work as well. That's not a rotator cuff that you probably have bicep tendon inflammation.

The bicep tendon runs over the front of the shoulder. And it sounds like you have a little bit of AC joint pain. It's where the collarbone kind of, there's that end joint there where the shoulder is. So you could do some stretches and stuff for the bicep, that'll help alleviate the pain in the short term. But in the long term, you probably need to work on what's called scapular mobility, retraction instability. You're probably lacking some of that. you probably need to work on what's called scapular mobility, retraction and stability. You're probably lacking some of that.

And I would focus primarily on shoulder mobility movements, hip mobility movements, maybe spine mobility movements, maybe some stuff for the ankles. That should be your primary focus. In fact, that's all I would focus on for a little while before trying to figure out what exercises to do to develop those areas. I would drop one of those days or I would cut back on my cardio sessions and I would do

mobility work and the mobility work would I would live in the 90 90s and all the variations and then handcuff with rotation, wall circles, Justin Love, Zone One stuff, everything that this is why, I mean, you were an example of why we wrote maps prime and prime pro was to help people address this. And here's the deal, like the idea, I get why you're doing cardio because you want to kind of combat the, you know, the lack of movement you're doing and calorie burn.

But let me tell you, a 50 minute mobility session focused on the hips and shoulders where you literally spend 45 minutes. It can be very intense. You'll be sweating, you'll burn plenty of calories while you're also addressing the root cause or this pain is coming from. And nothing's going to get you back to lifting weights sooner than that. And when you have maps prime, for example, so in there, we do like a zone one test, which would be addressing the shoulder area. We also have strength exercises to support that, you know, that go with it. So you have the mobility work that you do to address

it. And then as you start to progress and feel better, there are specific exercises that we take clients like yourself that are going through this to help strengthen that new range of motion that you've probably regained back from doing all the mobility work. But yeah, like Sal said, right now, you're just avoiding the things and they probably feel better because you stop doing it. Information comes down, but you still didn't address the root cause of what's going on. Yeah, because we just build on top of that and then you're going to get stronger in other

areas, but eventually that's going to get exposed and it's going to set you back. And so I guess why we kind of are just all honing in on that is because it's a big signal for you to really focus on that and get your shoulder to function optimally again because that's what we want to build upon. That's what we want to get stronger and supported because then when we go back to actually lifting weights, you're going to feel that difference too. It's going to be a performance enhancement. It's not this huge regression you're going through.

And I think that's like the psychological challenge a lot of people face when they go through like these types of exercises. Like think of it more as a performance enhancement. You're going to build up your entire body and be able to really accelerate your progress. Yeah, do you, okay, so do you have maps prime? That's actually, that's funny, you bright it up

because I do have maps prime and maps prime pro. And before my injury, I was doing like, at least 10 minutes before each session. I do my post-priming after the session. And I had done those evaluations on the three zones. And I did not find any mobility issues. I can extend overhead my shoulder and do the wall circles very well, like not perfectly, but at least there's no lack of motion and same with the hip, but it's just

that after I got hurt, I wasn't able to even do those movements because of the pain. And that's why I'm struggling right now because I don't know, because I thought it was a mobility issue, but I was doing all of those before it happened. Yeah, no, no, no, sir, it is a mobility issue. The signs, the red flag is the pain, right? So you're doing normal traditional exercises, and it hurts. Now mobility doesn't just mean range of motion. It means how you're moving and how muscles are connecting.

In fact, some of the people that I've trained in my entire life with the worst pain issues had incredible ranges of motion. They just had lack of control and lack of stability. So here's what I want you to do. You have maps prime, here's what I want you to do. You have Maps Prime, here's what I want you to do. Get it in the form so I can see some of his movement. Yeah, your workouts are gonna be the fortification sessions in Maps Prime.

So there's fortification sessions in Maps Prime which are actually correctional exercise-based workouts. So that's your workouts, do those. And then the priming movements, I want you to do those three times a day and I want you to slow them down. Don't worry about, oh, is it, you know, my rate, no, focus on the connection. Slow them down, connect to every single centimeter

of movement. Now, and play within your edges, within your limits. What that means is if you're doing a priming, if you're doing a priming movement and you notice that, oh, that's about as far as I could go, don't modify the movement, stop right there and then slowly try to increase or improve upon that over time.

But three times a day, I would do 10 minutes of those movements, and then your workouts for now or fortification sessions, slow everything down. It's all about connection and feel. Don't worry about anything else, connection and feel, and over time you should be able to solve something trouble. If you do a good job of finding those end ranges

before the pain, you're gonna notice that the more frequently you apply these, like you're gonna be able to move that a bit further. So the pain itself will start sort of dissipating at certain angles. And so you just gotta be very gradual with this approach. So that way, you can progress forward. By the way, this is sometimes very hard to do on your own.

One of our challenges when we created our maps prime and prime pro programs was exactly that people have a tough time assessing themselves, especially if they don't have a background in how to assess. And sometimes what a professional will see is so subtle that you would never notice yourself. So this makes it very challenging. Adam gave great advice.

He said, get in our forum, post some of these movements, post videos, there's physical therapists and trainers, there's us in there, we can help. And then here's the other thing. This is like, if you really, really, really just want to get this fixed, we have partnered with a company that offers physical therapy in your home and it's totally covered by insurance. You go to getluna.com.

So if you have health insurance, you can have a therapist who specializes in working with athletes and movement and correctional exercise come to your you know, five sessions, and they'll diagnose you right in front of them, because I've definitely worked with people where they show me a video, like, man, I can't really tell, I gotta get in front of this person, and I have to walk around them while they're moving, and the movement changes are so subtle

that I wouldn't have been able to notice otherwise, let alone somebody who has an untrained eye or somebody who's not a professional in that space. So that would be the other resort. If you really want to get this fixed, have someone come to your house, they'll focus specifically on you. You go to that website getluna.com and your insurance covers it. But other than that, it's your hard. We'll put you in the forum, post some videos, and let's see what we can figure out there.

Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. And if one last thing, I don't know if we have any more time, but how would you approach calorie increase at this situation? Yeah, right now, right now, with what we're doing with correctional exercise, I would keep them at maintenance, maybe a slight surplus, but I wouldn't worry about body composition changes just yet. maintenance, maybe a slight surplus, but I wouldn't worry about body composition changes just yet. Let's focus on fixing the root cause of the pain because if we can't figure that out,

you'll never be able to do all the other stuff you want to do. So we got to really focus on that first. Amazing. Okay. I really, really appreciate it. Thank you so much. And I also want to thank you on behalf of everyone who listens to Mind Pump, because you guys are throwing some badass information out there that nobody else is doing. Thank you so much. And I also want to thank you on behalf of everyone who listens to Mind Pump, because you guys

are throwing some bad ass information out there that nobody else is doing. Thank you so much. Really appreciate you guys. That's true. I agree with you. Thank you. Thanks, dude. Thank you, bro.

Thank you, bro. Yeah, you know, this really highlights a challenge that we all talked about when we created those programs. Well, this is, okay, this is why I asked him to go in the forum. And I, and no in Prime Pro, I, I did this because I know that when I would teach it, and I used to do like some of this stuff, like in a class setting, even with people me sitting in front of them, doing the movement. Yeah.

The, when they, they do it and they think they're doing it the way I, aren't, they're not. They're mirroring you, but the intention isn't there totally not there and so so a lot of people they'll do these tests And they'll be like oh, yeah, I pass zone one two and three and I'm like get the fuck out of here I know you do I could just see the way you stand in your posture and I can tell that there's no way you and they're being genuine They're being sincere. Yeah, I mean I I struggle with zone one. I still do not have a pass on zone one. And I have good shoulder mobility and can do Indian clubs and may swings and do a lot of things that we talk about on the show

but still can't pass that test because there's areas to improve there. So I think a lot of people think just because they can do it, they can go through the wall circle but they don't realize they push their body four inches to the left when they do that. Like you're actually not performing. You have to be in your body, which is a really hard thing to teach.

It really comes intrinsically. You've figured that out through feeling your way through these things and you have to know how to do that. And so it does take quite a bit of coaching and extra cues to keep you on track. Here's a silly example. This is not you on track. Here's a silly example. This is not related to him, but just a silly example. I would do, let's say, a cable row with a client. And the form from the outside looks pretty damn good.

Even to a trainer looks pretty damn good. And then after the set, they'd say, I felt a little pressure in my lower back. And this is what I would do. I'd say, okay, let's do another set. We go to do the set and I'd say, okay, before you do a rep, brace your core like I'm gonna poke in your stomach.

That's all they would do. The form actually wouldn't even change. They would just brace their midsection as if someone was gonna poke them and all of a sudden, no pain or no pressure in the low back. This is what we're talking about when we talk about intention. Now, I did mention, you know, getloona.com because sometimes you're just, you're not an expert,

you're, this is not your field of expertise. The issues can be so subtle, and you can literally be stuck in a situation where you're like, I'm doing, I think I'm doing everything. Why the hell do I still hurt? Stop guessing. And yes, in that case, you have a professional come to your house and they'll fix it for you and then you're done

You don't have to worry about it ever again You really figure it out after about you know five or ten sessions and then the problem solved otherwise It could end up being one of those chronic issues where you're just like oh, I guess I can never overhead press or I guess squats Or just out of the question for me, which you don't want to be in that position Our next caller is Rachel from Kansas. Hey, what's up, Rachel? How can we help you? Hey, guys. I'm super excited to be talking to you.

I'm a huge fan of the show. So my question is, is I am a huge nutrition and exercise enthusiast, but I always struggle to figure out what to do with my soul. I've been lifting weights consistently over the last eight years, and I've built a ton of muscle and I love that but I'm at the point where I feel like either my body fat is too high or I have too much muscle for my frame. So my question is basically how can I speed up my metabolism without

getting any bigger muscle early as well as just getting my calories into a better place? Okay, good question. I also see here in your question that you wrote to us that you're in your last year of physical therapy school. I am. Very cool. So you know what you're doing then when it comes to movement. Okay. So where are your calories right now?

How tall are you? What's your body weight? And do you know what the body weight is? So my calories are at 1,500 on maintenance. I'm 5'3 and I'm 150 pounds. And I usually vary in like between 140 to 150 pounds. And my body fat is about 20 or 21%. Wow.

Okay. So you are one of those very rare female individuals where you just hold on to muscle. Does that, is that? I do. Okay. They call me a little bulldog in my class because I'm just that muscular.

Yeah. Very, and that, very rare. It's actually a cool thing to have because you're always gonna be sculpted and toned, but you wanna get smaller and you don't wanna have to cut your calories and I can understand this. In my entire career, I think I've worked

with maybe a couple women. Yeah, this is the one or two. In this situation, here's what, and this is where I give advice that I never give it to anybody. I would say reduce your resistance training and do a little bit more endurance training and your body will pair down some of your muscle size.

As far as boosting your metabolism without increasing muscle mass, it's really hard to do. Now, there is a range of calories that your currently body mass will burn on the low end You know, there's a number and on the high end. There's another number What determines that is typically macronutrient profile will help so high protein helps with that But the other thing is are you sending a muscle building signal? Which it sounds like you are so again, this is one of those rare instances where I would say

Reduce your resistance training, maybe even reduce the intensity of it. When you're going to the gym, you're just kind of going through the motions, going through full range of motion, do a little bit more endurance work, and that may give you the look that you're looking for. But I will say this, and I'll caution you, okay. You've heard the term, the grass is always greener on the other side. Right.

Okay. The women that I've worked with, I can't actually give two specifically who are very similar to you. They did this and you know what happened? They stopped because they said, I don't like this. I like doing what I did before and it felt better. It felt better to have a little more muscle and I felt more solid and I like the way my butt looked and all that of the stuff. So give it a shot but my money is on that you'll probably do it and be like, nah, I liked where I was before. Yeah, that's what I've always struggled with just because I love to be strong and I love having muscles, but it's just like, I just have a lot.

Oh, damn you. Yeah, literally, yeah, your step, my ex was a little bit taller than what you are at 5 three, but your body fat percentage and total, she was like one fifty eight and two inches taller than you. And she walked around like this. And I remember when we got her ready for her first show and she actually had a different, she hired a coach outside of me to help her. And I remember how he, he had to completely, and then one of the, the feedbacks from the first judging she had was her quads were too developed for women's bikini. And we had to completely, and one of the feedbacks from the first judging she had was her quads were too developed for women's bikini. And we had to completely eliminate leg training.

She had to do tons of cardio, her calories were so I blew my mind. And I swear that it was so hard for her to even lose a pound or two of muscle. It was just so crazy to see. And I've only met a handful of women that have genetics like this. I 100% agree with Sal. To get down there, I remember it was great because she could say she did it and she got on stage and she won. She did great. But I remember her not being happy. I remember her being like, I prefer the muscle. I prefer a fuller body and looking that way and being strong and not feeling all, I have to do cardio three, four times a week.

But yeah, you were an example of the advice we give to you would be the opposite of what we give to most people. You're somebody who I would say, you know, start, I would encourage circuit type training, low rest periods and, you know, add cardio to it because in your case, your body probably just hangs on to that muscle mass. Okay, and just to be clear,

so you guys did say, so I do bump up my calories or try to get them higher or just 1500's fine. Okay, so there's two issues here that we're looking at. One is, do you wanna eat more calories because 1500 feels too low to you. Give you less flexibility when you want to hang out with friends. Yeah, it's mostly just a flexibility. Like I can stick to it and it's fine in my day-to-day life, but I could run into issues

whenever, like, you know, I'm just special events and things like that. And I mean, granted, that's not going to make or break anything, but... Yeah, so you can slowly bump your calories, but here's my guess with rare Individuals like you that hang on a muscle. It'll make it even harder for you to lose muscle I would I bet this let me ask you a question when you increase your calories. You just build muscle and get stronger You know everybody listening and watching to this right now It's like everybody's like wow everybody hates Rachel. I feel so bad for you Yeah, you know, okay, so here, this is,

I know you didn't ask for this, but I'm gonna go in this direction because this is so common for most people. There's a certain amount of acceptance that we have to have with how our bodies are. Some people's bone structure isn't perfect. I mean, I had narrow, I have naturally narrow shoulders. I had to accept that.

Some people have. He has a weird face. Short, yeah, weird face, just out of said, that's a weird face. It's gonna be like, yeah. Something you're just, for giving the details. Some people have, some people have short muscle bellies, other people have long muscle bellies,

things that you can't really change. You know, acceptance is gonna go a long way here. And you're young, I mean, you're in physical therapy schools, you're probably in your 20s. You know, I tell you what, in 10 years, 15 years, you're gonna love your genetics. You're gonna love the fact that you hold on to muscle. It's gonna keep you lean. You're gonna bounce back from having a baby if you ever decide to have a baby at one point, way faster than other people. You probably pick up athletics very easily.

So at one point, you're gonna love this. I know right now it's challenging because it's like, you wanna do a particular thing and your body doesn't wanna do it. But there's a certain level of acceptance here that I think would be a good idea to focus on because what you don't wanna do is this. What you don't wanna do is get so caught up certain level of acceptance here that I think would be a good idea to focus on because what you don't want to do is this.

What you don't want to do is get so caught up on the fact that you want to be smaller that you damage yourself. The example that Adam gave with his ex-girlfriend, I mean, had she continued doing that because she liked the look, she would've probably caused or not in a show. She lost her period.

Yeah, see. That was like why we never did that again after that was because she lost her period for months after that. Yeah, so I guess, you know, I'm sorry for the maybe not telling you exactly. I mean, I actually want to hear, but I mean, I'm going to tell you right now from the outside. These are great genetics to have. They're going to really serve you well as well. Work with your gifts. Yeah, you could you could play with some things like this. I give you some other things that you could try and do. Like I might drop you down to just one day of like a MAPSAN Obolic Week.

And then I'd get you doing things like mobility stuff. And maybe we would pick up some things where we're challenging your endurance and doing stuff. Yeah, do some yoga, do some things, some practices like that that might be kind of away from, now again, to Salis Point, you may not like all that and you may love lifting the weights because you're strong, because I know, I tell you what,

I know that that's what my ex, she loved to lift because it feels good when you're strong and powered woman and you're lifting as much as just about anybody else inside the gym, it's a cool ass feeling. So, you know, you could play with those things and see how you like it, and see how you feel and see how your body shapes up. And if you're happy with that, but you're in it. You're in a good, you have a good problem. Let's put that way.

That's awesome. Do you like it? I mean, yeah. I appreciate you guys. And that's awesome advice. And I just wanted to get basically that your guys' expert opinion on what's going on here, because you know, run my brain for a while and I just couldn't figure it out. So yeah, you got you just got really good muscle building gene. You know, Rachel, I tell you what, if you're, if you like the competitive aspect of exercise, you might be able to focus on that.

We have a program that we wrote for obstacle course racers, thinking OCR. And but it's, it's a, it's, you're going to build a lot of stamina and endurance. So you're drastically different from what you do. It's competitive. And for someone like you, it might give you a little bit more of the look you're looking for because it's not focused so much on building as it is on performing well and maybe an obstacle course race.

Not that you need to do a race, but rather train that way. So why don't we send you that program? Take a look at it. If it looks like something that might be interesting, give it a shot and see if it gives you a little bit more of what you're looking for Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much. I super appreciate you guys meeting with me Like I said, I've been a huge fan of the show so it's an honor to get a talk to you guys Thank you Rachel. Awesome. Right. Show. Thank you. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you Yeah, one big thing I took away from that was that, you guys think I have a weird face, what the hell?

What the hell? I never know. I was just piling on you. I was just trying to make Rachel feel better, yeah. Yeah, you know what, so, you wanna know what's funny? So I had a client, I trained, I just literally, remember two women that were like this, because that's how rare it is of all the women

that I trained in my entire career, either directly or by proxy through other trainers and in the gym, and there was one woman, no joke, no joke, she stopped lifting weights and only did athletic based stuff. And she looked more muscular than women would look if they did bodybuilding for years. That's kind of genetics that she had. This was Monique, dude. It blew my mind when I saw, I mean, I want to say too, this was, so this was way long time ago now.

I remember the diet that her coach had her on and it was because they just, they could not get her to lose. Like, she like had to, he's like, I'm not, she's not allowed to do any leg exercises for the next three months. It was cardio crazy, super low calorie. And I remember coming home every day just like so angry Like she could just cut that hard and not like lose any muscle mass What so her she's built just like this? I mean she was taller than she was But she also carried ten more pounds on her body and it was that was like and they're rare It's like she was the only woman that I had known that well that had this that genetics like that

Yeah, you hit it real too though like this is when you turn only woman that I had known that well, that had genetics like that. Yeah. You hit it real too though. Like this is, when you turn 35, 40, 40, 40, 40, she's gonna love it. Yeah. She's just gonna, everyone's gonna be like, what do you do? I don't really do much. I just don't want to.

Yeah, exactly. This curve is good. I love the idea too. When you said OCR, that's what I was meaning by, like, hey, maybe this is a cool, fun time for you to explore some other modalities. And, you know, OCR would be great for someone like this because she would. She would just get leaner and she would just look still muscular and awesome. Yeah.

Yeah, but that grass is greener on the other side, man. That is a real lesson. Like, you know, there's so many people out there that hate, you know, I mean, I'll give you a simple example. Like, you know, I have family members that women who hate the fact that they have really curly, thick Mediterranean hair. Oh, when I wake up in the morning, it's so bushy

and I gotta do this and I gotta do that. And then my wife has got this ultra straight sleek hair and everybody's like, I wish I had your hair. And my wife's like, I wish I had your hair. I hate the fact that I can, and it's like, I wish I had your hair. My wife's like, I wish I had your hair. I hate the fact that I can, and it's like, you know, you oftentimes want what you don't have, and if you get stuck in that, you'll never be happy. Well, you never win, because it didn't even

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