Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1658: How Cardio Limits Muscle Gain, When to Use Supersets, Following a Workout Program Vs. Training Instinctively & More

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether cardio kills muscle gains, the benefits of supersets, the importance of following a program rather than improvising or instinctively training, and why fitness isn’t selfish. Yes, Butcher Box has packages to celebrate National Taco Day! (4:05) A professor explains marketing to MBA students. (6:51) The guys share their most impactful teachers growing up. (9:08) Improving your quality of life by optimizing your hormones. (14:24) Bob Munden, the fastest draw in the world. (21:25) What is going on with Facebook, and should the Government regulators get involved? (25:18) The conspiracy theory surrounding Patent W02020606. (33:02) Getting caught by your kids. (38:44) The latest arms race between the US and Russia is frightening. (45:40) Caldera is one amazing product! (48:00) #Quah question #1 – Does cardio kill muscle gains? (55:37) #Quah question #2 – Besides saving time, what are the benefits of supersets? (1:02:15) #Quah question #3 – How important is it to follow a program? (1:05:16) #Quah question #4 – Can you speak to how fitness isn’t selfish? (1:09:41) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Promotion: MAPS Anabolic and NO BS 6-Pack Formula – Get Both for $59.99!    Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! A professor explains marketing to MBA Students Munk Debates MP Hormones Mind Pump #1607: How To Optimize Your Hormones With Dr. Rand McClain Bad Bob Munden is a Human Anomaly | Inverse Facebook outage: what went wrong and why did it take so long to fix after social platform went down? Facebook whistleblower reveals identity, accuses the platform of a ‘betrayal of democracy’ Cryptocurrency system using body activity data Foundation | Apple TV+ Hypersonic missiles: the alarming must-have in military tech Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Visit Serenity Kids for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MP20” at checkout** Are There Negative Side Effects of Doing Too Much Cardio? - Mind Pump Blog Cardio Sucks for Fat Loss – Mind Pump Blog How To Use Supersets For Maximum Muscle Gain – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1512: The Value Of Following A Workout Program Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Gad Saad (@doctorgadsaad)  Instagram Paul Saladino (@carnivoremd2.0)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Alright, today's episode was a Q&A episode, so we answered fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience, but that was the back half of the episode. The first 50 minutes is an intro

where we talk about current events. We bring up scientific studies, we have a lot of fun, and we talk about our sponsors. So here's what went down in today's episode. We opened up by talk about National Taco Day. Adam is really excited because it was a Tuesday. Taco's, by the way, butcher box has a taco special, where you can order some ground beef and some pork

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So if you go to butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump, you can actually get free ground beef for life. Really crazy. It's a fiesta. Then we talked about impactful teachers that we had growing up. Then we talked about hormone balancing. I actually brought up one of my friends

who went to mphormones.com scheduled himself an appointment with Dr. Rand and his team. It is now getting great results. If you think you would like an assessment of your hormones and your health, or if you just like to get on hormone replacement therapy or testosterone replacement therapy, this is the only place that we advocate for. Again, it's mphormones.com. That led us to talking about testosterone and how the kind of car you drive can actually raise or lower your testosterone.

That's pretty cool. Then we talked about a guy who, back in the past, he was the fastest draw. In other words, he could pull out a handgun and shoot things really, really fast. You gotta see the YouTube video on this guy. It's insane. Quick draw.

Then we talked about Facebook and social media. A lot of stuff circulating about them right now. They, looks like they might try to legislate them. At least that looks, looks like the push. Then Justin brought up a conspiracy theory around a patent, 060606, that's the actual number of the patent. Very confusing. I'd love to hear your theories.

Yeah, cryptocurrency using body activity data. What? Then I talked about how I almost got caught with the kids or by the kids and so did Justin. Two different things though. Yeah. Good part of the episode. Then we talked about the hypersonic missile arms race between the US and Russia.

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Hey congratulations Adam Congratulations, yeah dude on what taco toe was it national taco day? Like spaghetti Wednesday and I said It's like potato Friday I do like tacos. Oh, I said, so why? No, you know what? You know what I would say that? So I guess it's national.

I don't even know this was a thing. National. Is that okay? This is like a. Every day's national Trumpets. Yeah, this is a trend that started in the last, I don't know, five years or so. I know.

Every day is a national, something day. Are there any days of podcasting day the other day? They don't have something attached to it. You know what it is. What are those days? You know what it does? All the other like national days don't mean anything now because everything is a national something day.

You know what I'm saying? Anyway, I'm not going to argue this because I'm happy there's national taco day because tacos are amazing. Oh, yeah. But the reason why I'm bringing that up is I went on my butcher box. They talk account and it's said on there. You guys never do this. You got to go there. Listen to me. Listen what I'm saying. Go to your butcher box account every month before your box comes, right? And shut every month they have new like deals and packages and they'll add new products and they'll have great prices or whatever.

So this time they have like a taco night package that they're selling. I can see what it looks like. So it's just like ground meat or like chicken. Like what was that? Two pounds of ground beef, three and a half pounds of boneless pork butt and three pounds of boneless chicken thighs. So and that's eight plus pounds of meat for 50 bucks.

Wow, that was a big sum of guy too. He is. I was watching a barbecue show with my daughter and she didn't know that pork butt was a thing. So the guy throws a big piece of meat on the grill and it's like pork butt. She slapped that pork butt on there. She was cracking up, she's like pork butt.

You might guess what part of the pig that's from? It's actually from the shoulder. Why would they call it pork? Hold on a second who's the smart PR guy that said this is a shoulder. Let's name it something worse I don't know. This isn't brilliant marketing more more sexy make any sense Well, what if that was something that was more desirable back then when they named it pork butt? Mm-hmm you think so then shoulder. I don't. You're right. Maybe it was to the black mirror guy. Maybe, huh? Well, but I'm sure I'm sure it's pretty universal that butts are fatty So I'm sure that people would think that right. Yeah, so maybe it was a more desirable cut back in the day Yeah, but isn't it also universal that butts poop? Okay, no rules, huh holes, but holes. Yeah, but don't really poop. No, but still it's the whole

It's the whole area anyway. I'm gonna I bought some so whatever. Yeah, I was lost my up. You were reading something and you were giggling Oh, yeah, no, I wanted to read this to you guys hold on so our good buddy James Smith Joe DeFranco's partner sent this to me the other day So he obviously like, it just ended the same stuff as I am because he'll send me some stuff every now and then I'm like, how's this guy, he must read my memes

or the things that I send. He sends me over this thing, it's called, a professor explains marketing to MBA students. So this professor explains marketing to the students that like at the same way you would be picking up a girl, right, so this is like how he uses that as the Clondie. Yeah, so you see a gorgeous girl at a party you go up to her and say I'm very rich marry me that's called direct marketing Number two you're at a party with a bunch of friends and you see a gorgeous girl one of your friends goes up to her and and and and is pointing over you and says

He's a very rich man. You should marry him. That's advertising Number three you see a gorgeous girl at a party you go up to her and you get her telephone number the next day and is pointing over you and says he's a very rich man. You should marry him. That's advertising. Number three, you see a gorgeous girl in a party, you go up to her and you get her telephone number. The next day you call her and say, hi, I'm very rich, marry me. That's telemarketing. Four, you're at a party and you see a gorgeous girl.

You get up and straighten your tie. You walk up to her, you pour her a drink, you open the door of her car for her, you pick up her bag after she drops it, you offer her a ride then ask her, by the way, I'm very rich. You pick up her bag after she drops it. You offer her a ride then ask her. By the way, I'm very rich. Will you marry me? That's public relations.

Five, you're at a party and you see a gorgeous girl. She walks up to you and says, you're a very rich guy. Can you marry me? That's brand recognition. Six, you see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say, I'm very rich.

Marry me. She gives you a nice, hard slap on your face. That's customer feedback. Seven, you see a gorgeous girl at a party, you go up to her and say, I'm very rich, marry me. She introduces you to her husband. That's a demand and supply gap. Eight, you see a gorgeous girl at a party,

you go up to her and before you say anything about, say anything, another person comes up to you and asks her, I'm very rich. Will you marry me? And she goes, and she goes with him. That's competition eating into your market share. Nine, you see a gorgeous girl at a party, you up to her, and before you can say, I'm very rich, marry me.

Your wife arrives. That's restrictions from entering new markets. Wow. That's actually really smart. It is hell of smart. I mentioned that was your perfection. I thought Cal engaged you would be in that class. That's great. You. It is hell of a sport. I mentioned that was your perfection. I thought Kyle engaged you in that class. That's great.

You know my kid has a teacher who, I guess he's an amputee, right? I don't remember what class he teaches, but my son says he's hilarious because he makes jokes and he'll use his arm or his amputee arm as part of the jokes or he'll post up memes that are current to teach lessons. And he's like, dude, I love this class so much.

I learned so much. Did you guys have very many teachers like that? I just, maybe that's part of what might mean. I had like two and I remember them. Yeah, I really had like one. Doug, what do you have? Did you have very many? Not many, a couple.

I mean, most of the time these professors, this was in university. I had a law class and this guy was actually a practicing attorney and he'd talk about his active cases. It was very fascinating. Yeah, that would be great. And then I had a tax attorney as a tax professor and he was actually an intellectual property tax attorney.

And he talked about all these authors and big celebrity type people he represented and the type of royalties they were making and things like that. He made it actually interesting. Yeah, it's so important to do that. Oh, you know, this might be a naive question, but do they have like a universities where students rank the teachers and star them like a Yelp review and stuff like that?

There are places that teachers do that. The teachers get reviewed. Yeah. Sometimes however, the teachers that get sought out are the easy ones and kids will actually say that So like easier class harder class or whatever. Oh, yeah, and some of the kids will teach you know They'll want the class. That's easier to pass. No, the only enjoyable class I had was when we had this kid in there who had Tourette's It made every single class a major. And they did another do the teacher. You know, I said, right behind him,

and you just know when he was about to go off. You know, they'd say something super outrageous and offensive and we would just die. I didn't have a teacher like this. Like I can think of one or two. You had to have an English teacher like that. So she impacted me positively. So I'm not saying that I never had a teacher

that impacted me positively. Like she definitely did. Like she impacted me positively. So I'm not saying that I never had a teacher that impacted me positively. Like she definitely did. Like she encouraged me different than like almost any other teacher. I told you guys with writing and stuff, right? Which is grammatically I'm terrible. But she thought the way that I could convey my thought was really good. And so she put me in advanced English.

That was the only teacher though that I connected with like that. The rest I never had anyone did like creative stuff like that or found creative ways to get us to learn. I had to. There was the one I told you guys about. I think I said on the podcast that Arm wrestled me in front of class and the bet was if he beat me then I had to come to class every day.

And if I won then I could continue cutting class. Yeah. And he beat me and so I showed up and it was really, it was, I respected the guy, it was funny. Then I had another teacher, this is only two. I had another teacher who encouraged us to debate in class. It was psychology class and he did this thing where he would pick a topic and we would have to debate

one side of the issue and then we had to switch and debate the other side. And he encouraged arguing, he was okay if we raised our voices, of course we had to be respectful. And he let us argue and then the class would The way that what started was was the rest of the class would show a hands Which side they agree with or which side they already disagree with before we would argue? Yeah, and the goal of the of the debate was not to see

You know how many people agree with you or not it was to see how many people you could change yeah, yeah, and I was so impactful for me as a kid. I thought it was so brilliant that he let us do that. So it was, what are those debates that are called the most? Yeah, monk debates. You still watch those, have you seen them? I haven't, you know, a long time. I forgot about that.

I got into that for a while. Yeah, for a minute, you got me into it too. I hadn't watched any in a while. You know what I like about that is debating is different than the kind of debating that we tend to see on TV, which is who can make the best sound bite and who can do the zingers. Real debate is there's like rules and there's more. You have to have longer, longer forms. Longer forms.

Longer forms. Longer forms. Super deep and philosophical, you know, trying to like solve problems that they know, like you can't really solve. They also do that. What you just said that I think is really is really interesting how they, they, everybody votes before the debate starts. Yeah, so it's not about who, who has more people on their side.

How many people's minds did you change? Right. Because it's easy to, to rile up your, the people that already, right? Yeah, right. If it's already 60-40 and then it ends 60-40, it wasn't that great of a debate. Yes. You know what I'm saying? But if it was 60-40 and then also it flipped to 70- or 50 50 after that Like obviously somebody moved some people in fact if okay, so if you one of the reasons why I like politics is if you back out

And I know people are like when I say I like politics like are you crazy? I don't like politicians This is in short debates are horrendous. Yeah, I like the science of politics because they're really they've studied human psychology And what you'll notice is when there are debates Within the party so let's say it's uh... you know it's a primary so who's gonna win the the the nominee for the democrats who's gonna win the nomination for republicans the debate is all about who can a rile up the base more then when they go to the the big national debate where it's the democrat versus

the republican now what they're trying to do is maintain their base, but change the minds of the undecided voters and the debates change. Then you can see they all of a sudden become more moderate and they start to change kind of they're messaging a little bit. Whereas when it's in the primaries, it's like who could be the most extreme, who could be the most extreme on their side. Very fascinating.

Very fat. Anyway, speaking of problem solved and stuff, I wanted to tell you guys, so obviously I'm not going to give this person's name because this is private information, but somebody we all know very closely heard our episode with Dr. Rand and went over to mphormones.com to get an assessment. So this person's healthy, they work out, and I'm friends with them, we talk back and forth all the time. And they've been telling me how they just don't feel like they used to and their energy

is kind of like whatever. And so I said, okay, and because they do everything, most things right, I said, this might be a good option to get assessed. So go there, get assessed, whatever. Anyway, he went, this was like two months ago, went, got a full assessment, and there were a couple of things that they could optimize with, you know, through medical means. So he decided, because he talked to Dr. Ran, he said, you know, I'm gonna give this a shot

and see if it makes a difference in my quality of life. He went through, has done it. This is now week four, and he's messaging me, and he's like, dude, I have, he's like, I had no idea. I think my quality of life is so much better than it was before. And there's nothing extreme. I'm not gonna, again, I'm not gonna go over the specifics. Right, right.

But nothing extreme, they just optimized a few things. And this gentleman is in his late 50s. And he's like, I feel, he's like my energy for work and- Testosterone's an amazing hormone, dude, it's crazy. It is, it really is. But there's much more to that. They look at your free testosterone,

they look at your estrogen. I know what they're manipulating is the testosterone though, right? They look at all those other indicators, but the thing that they give you is testosterone. Or what they'll do is, let's say, because this has happened to some people, their testosterone's fine,

but they have a high degree of it that is bound, so it's not free. So in essence, it's like having low testosterone. Right. And then what they do is they go and they try to free up more testosterone through other means. Interesting. So then what you're doing is you're taking that bound testosterone, figuring out, is that made for G's? That what you would use for that? No, I think no, a rimidex is one of the things that they use. But there's some other stuff that they'll work with. I thought Arrimidex was just an estrogen blocker, no? It prevents the conversion of testosterone.

It also frees up testosterone. I believe it has an effect there. Oh, it's interesting. Now again, this is not my, there's way more complex than the way I'm making a sound. Okay, yeah. But I like hearing that, you know, for someone who's already healthy. You know, it's one thing if you're not healthy

and your hormones are off, and then you go and try and get, you know, medical treatment, it's like, well, let's see what you could do now, you know, healthy way. I think I'm up to 10 family and friends that I've introduced to them already. Really? Yeah, and every 100% feedback has been amazing.

Yeah. What I'm most assessment this week, with Courtney, so we're gonna see how that goes. So that's what I was gonna say. What I'm most interested in is women. Yes. How are women? I have two that are women.

So eight of them are guys. Especially thyroid and everything else, like getting all these hormones balanced too, and like figuring out like, you know, the sort of basis of where to go from there is gonna be super helpful. What's interesting about this topic is obviously your lifestyle, so your hormones are a reflection of other things, right? So they can be a reflection of your sleep or your stress.

The car you drive, huh? Car you drive? Yeah. Actually, I have a really funny correlation there. There is. No, there's actually, did some, sleep or your stress. The car you drive. Huh? The car you drive? Yeah. Actually, I have a really funny correlation there. There is. No, there's actually, I was reading this morning. I was reading God's Sod right, I was going through his book. And they talked about, and I thought it saw right away

because he's like, I don't care about car I drive, whatever, right? But there is actually a direct connection to, and they did all the studies with a big group of men. They had them drive like a Porsche 911 and they had them drive like a beat up Ford Fiesta. That's like some compensating sort of study. No, it actually, because, and I imagine it's the confidence

that it builds in you when you drive that car, and especially when you drive in public. So they drove it in like country roads, they drove it in public. Oh wow, I was just gonna ask. And it's not about the fast car. Well, no, the fast car automatically, by yourself on country roads,

still raises testosterone levels. It raises even more testosterone when you are actually in public areas. Yeah. And then compared to the Ford Fiesta, like it actually lowered testosterone levels. So and in addition to that, the Ford Fiesta, like, it actually lowered testosterone levels. And in addition to that, the opposite sex

perceived the same attractive man in a Ford Fiesta versus a Porsche 911 far more attractive in that vehicle. So not only does it increase testosterone in men, it also the opposite. Well, the second part's obvious. Right, we've known that for years. We've known that since cars were invented. I know.

But what's interesting to me is I would love to see if those effects last or if it's a temporary effect and then if it's a temporary effect. But I imagine it's also compounding too, right? I would think that if you're all getting in that car every single day and you're driving that, it probably maintains your levels relatively higher than the person who's getting in the Ford Fiesta.

What I would like to add, but I would like to take it away how quickly the drop. Yeah, and I would also like to ask him if, like, because there's cause and effect, but also do men with higher testosterone tend to want to drive, you know, flashier cars or cars that are faster. So, you know, oh, I imagine that.

This was a completely different. Yes, right? They forced the people. But I'm wondering how, like what other effect, there's also the cause and effect from the river. That's interesting. I wonder if you had lower testosterone, you would gravitate to wanting to drive that

to make you feel naturally better, right? So let's say, That's true. So let's say, take me, for example, when I went through low testosterone, like I'm trying to think, was I, did I want to go take the Camaro out down Canary Row or down, you know, so I could feel that, because that feels good.

You drive down there, people are taking pictures of the car and stuff like that, and I'm sure that made me feel good. I don't recall feeling like that, you know, I don't remember being like, oh, I just want to go take my car out. Yeah, testosterone is really reactive. It's a reactive hormone. It's, like you can make, like thoughts can make it go up and down. Winning it sporting event make it go up and

down. Yeah. Yeah. You know, speaking in front of in public can make it go up and down. And what I was saying is. I can't imagine having high testosterone driving a Prius impossible. Impossible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Superduper something. Yeah. Negative. And what I was saying is that, you know, because your life, your hormones, your reflection of your lifestyle, obviously you want to change your lifestyle to make them optimal, but there's also this other like double-edged sword where there's also a quality of life

that's not achieved or that can be achieved by optimizing. So it's like this balancing act, okay? Yes, I can optimize my life to try and perfect my hormone levels, but the fact that they're low is also just decreasing the quality of life. I don't feel as good, I'm more depressed. Testosterone's for men and women. Boys, it connected to an anxiety, depression, drive.

It's a feel good hormone, whether we like it or not. Just kind of the way it is. Speaking of. Speaking of testosterone, boy, you guys, you just remember me of this guy, I think I might have brought this up a long time ago. Bob Mundin, you guys know who that was, I've ever brought him up before? Doug, I sent you, I didn't Mundin. I texted you a YouTube video of this guy,

and I might have talked about him before. It's one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen in my entire life. And this guy was, he's the, called the fastest draw in the world. So maybe you have brought this to me. Oh yeah. Maybe not on the podcast though.

So he's, with his pistol, like he just, yeah, and nobody's ever matched. Wild West. Nobody's ever matched this guy. Yeah, I think I've seen videos of this guy. And he passed away I think think, like eight years ago. But somebody sent this to me and I forgot all about it. I watched a video. This is an old video.

It's not doctored or whatever. I can't believe somebody can move this fast with a, this is a word, vulver, and it's a, you have to cock it back in order to fire. Oh, yeah, it's too bad. You've been a serious legend, you know, back in order to fire. Oh yeah, that's too bad. He'd have been a serious legend back in Wild West days. That's true. Doug, if you go to like minute one, like 158, that's when he actually demonstrates the speed

at which he shoots his gun. I mean, watch this. Watch this. And the accuracy too. Oh, accurate. Look who that is. Did you catch that? Yeah.

That doesn't make any sense. And you'll hit. Has the other of her shot as foot going that fast? I mean, and it's, again, it's not, what is it, single action? You have to cock up, this is old school handgun. It's a good simultaneous time. I mean, what I think this highlights more than he else is just how amazing, like, muscle memory is and stuff like that.

He's repeated that so many times that he has that timing down so perfect. So if you watched, well to be accurate in pull up. Yeah, and there's videos of this guy where you'll have three or four balloons in front of them. So what you just saw was one shot. You can see him shoot three, four, five times. And it literally looks like they sped it up.

I mean, this might sound like a dumb analogy, but have you paid attention to your son when he plays video games? I mean, that's and then tried to do what those kids can do now. Yeah, it's crazy. What if you're watching their fingers, you know, and what they're doing and stuff like that. And all the, I mean, I remember the evolution of like first player, first shooter games and then like Madden and like, part, it was like, I was right at the like mid 20s and it was

starting to play a little less and less videos. And I remember that was what kind of like sealed the deal for me was it just got so crazy complex that you had to put in hours and hours and hours of practice to even be okay. To not get your ass whipped by some 12 year old online, you had to put in hours and hours and hours of practice to even be okay. To not get your ass whipped by some 12 year old online, you had to put in just because there was so many moving pieces going at once. I peaked a license to kill a double-o-sit. That was it, that was it, man.

That was my max, that was my prime, and then after that, it was just like, I can't eat. Yeah, it's just because it requires an unbelievable amount of practice to have that muscle memory. No, you're right because my niece and nephew play on consoles. So like PlayStation and Xbox. My son doesn't like consoles. He uses a PC and it's very different.

And so I'll sometimes we'll go if we visit family and they have a console. My son will play and he's like, I hate this, I need to be on the PC. And vice versa, my niece and nephew don't like to be on the PC because they're so trained for the specific app, and you're right, you watch their fingers move and you're like, what the hell? Yeah, it's, I mean, you think about it, that's the old, less version of that, you know what I'm saying?

Like we didn't have that shit back there. We repurpose that skill. It is, it's the same skill. Like when you talk about what's going on with the brain and what's going on with your hand eye coordination, it's like the same thing. You're not thinking. Yeah, it's completely reactive.

Yeah, it's automatically. Yeah, 100%. That's wild. All right, speaking of technology, we got to talk about what's happening right now with the biggest social media giants. What is going on? Yeah, it's been all fucked up the last couple of times. What is going on in the world? Yeah, seriously, because I know.

It's been all fucked up the last couple of times. It's been down and people are just leery. I heard whims of even Zuckerberg selling stocks. I don't know if that's true or not. Yeah. Okay, so there's two things going on. One, they had one of the, I think they're first or their biggest worldwide outage.

So worldwide, Facebook and Instagram were down. So did it get hacked or is this some kind of like, in general issue? I thought I heard that they were, they were saying that they froze it because they're like being investigated by their, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're saying it was something else, I think,

in total, I forgot. There's a little kind of, well, you're, well, I don't know what to believe. Like bad it, it is. Well, here's why out of the day. Here's why it was savior. Well, I don't know what to believe, like bad it. Well, here's why. Here's why it was crazy. Well, first off, a company like that being down for that long, worldwide costs. I think it cost them $2,000 and something thousand dollars every second or something ridiculous.

It was like some ridiculous amount of money that Facebook was losing. Ooh, you should look that up. That's an interesting thing. Because I thought about yesterday, all I thought about yesterday was what ads are not being spent on Facebook right now? So how many businesses? Did this really hurt them or did this bring more attention to them again?

No, no, this hadn't hurt. This hadn't hurt. Because it also called me. It had a hard time. And it had heard a lot of businesses that use Facebook and Instagram to actually monetize. Well, if you have a seven or eight figure business and it's based off of social media,

when it's down for an hour or a day, you're losing hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Forget the stock, Doug. Google. That's Google. I will get a Google. No, Google, how much money did Facebook lose during the outage? Just look that up right here.

So here you go. Oh, here you go. Oh, here you go. Six billion and hours. Yeah. Yeah, that was 100 million in lost online advertising sales. Sales. And 5% loss of their shares.

Which is, was it $40 billion from their market value? So, okay, so this, that's so fascinating to me that's something that could get that big, that like hours of it being shut down for me. You know what it reminds me of, did you ever read that? Like, I remember there was a thing out for Michael Jordan

back when Michael Jordan was like one of the highest paid athletes and I talked about, and I've seen the same analogy for Bill Gates I think where if a hundred dollar bill fell out of his pocket that it would be a waste of his time to pick it up. Meaning that he makes more money per second than the three seconds it would cost for him to bend down to pick it up. I know. Yeah. That's what that basically think of like this is. They're making so much goddamn money that like you can be shut down for hours and you're in your In your company this is billions of dollars. You guys remember that episode of the Chappelle show one of the best comedy skits of all time where he's pertaining to be like a

super rich rapper. Yeah, and you know how the rich James no it was a crib's one. Yeah Yeah, and you know they always try and show off how rich they are. Uh-huh So like he goes in to make breakfast and he eats like it's a tar's one. Yeah, yeah, the crib's one. And they always try to show off how rich they are. So like he goes to make breakfast and he eats like, it's a tarot d'acto leg. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's so rich. He eats the rare tarot d'acto leg all with.

Yeah, that was hilarious. Oh, I love that. But it's okay. So here's the other thing that's going on with Facebook and Instagram stuff. A whistle blower, quote, came out and said, this woman worked for Facebook. Yeah, that's okay.

That's what I read. They were sharing the data and stuff, right? No, what she was saying is that Facebook knows a new internally. So their internal members and internal studies that they're aware of. So this is their own internal dialogue where they know the damage that social media can create. So they know that it creates polarization, that it favors hateful or mean content,

and that Instagram in particular, is damaging to teenage girls. Yet, they continue to do business as usual anyway, and they kind of disregard that, and just keep pushing forward. So this whistleblower's coming out saying, they know the damage that they're doing, but they're keep running their business as usual.

But how's that any different than alcohol cigarettes? Thank you. So how's that any different than anything else that harms a lot of fucking people and they continue to do business? Well, so here's what I- Totally get slapped. And I had this conversation with some of my friends

who are like oh Facebook and Instagram need to be regulated. This is terrible. They knew it. Yeah I know by the way these are the same guys that complained about the corruption of the FDA He's just opt out and the SEC okay So here's what I want what I think people need to do is that they need to pull the curtain back a little bit What we're witnessing right now is the build up to, this is what I think, this is my opinion, but I think I'm right, the build up to legislation for heavy regulation or an agency that is gonna be created

specifically to monitor and regulate. So for me, that's a good call. And the way that they do it is they drum up public support by usually by angering and then people and then making people scared. I like this prediction. And this is part of it. Now what this, what I'm not saying is that social media

is great and that Facebook is this virtuous company. No, no, I don't think any of that. I think they're bad, but I think it could be much worse. And one of the ways you can make it much worse is by putting a federal government agency in control that are to the social credit system that inevitably were moving towards, because you know, it just looks like our government is antsy-pancy to having access to all of that.

They want it, because it's powerful. Yeah, well, I think it's less than that, even. I think it's just purely a money thing. We just said the numbers of what a few hours of this company makes. Imagine how easy it would be to get a fraction of that money from them by providing a service that is put in place, like you're saying, that is just there to regulate them. I mean, it could create thousands of jobs and millions and billions of dollars for the government. I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer.

It's demonized the fuck out of them, make them seem to get all the get the public scare that oh my God, we need to put some regulations in place or back through the government into the company. Well, so so always pay attention when both sides of the aisle agree on something that's the scariest time. That's when it's scary because first you had I remember there were there were several, you know, I remember there were several, they brought legislation forward several times now to regulate the internet, regulate social media and it's gotten defeated because the public didn't support it. But little by little, the public is starting to support it. First, it starts with the Democrats saying,

it's because of social media that Donald Trump won in 2016, and they're causing all this hate and blah, blah, blah. Then it's the Republican saying, you guys are censoring us. You're controlling information. You're obviously, there's a liberal, they'll say bias. Then the liberals come out of the Democrats come out and say, because of you, people storm the Capitol. And so what they're doing is they're pissing everybody off.

They're pissing both sides off. Now they're bringing forth this person that's saying, hey, our company knows that it can cause damage. They continue to do business as usual. By the way, this is most big corporations that sell a product or whatever. Yeah, are we gonna stop like that? Meanwhile, nobody doesn't want it to stop

because they know what a powerful tool it is for their purposes. Yeah. So they're just wedging it against whatever. Everybody else is really angry about so that that way they can. It's a brilliant call. Yeah. 100%. However bad it is now, it could be much worse. That's all I'm saying.

And it will get much worse if we put government regulators, if they go in and they start to control it, you better believe that public, that government policy will make its way through social media and they'll use it because it's powerful. It's powerful marketing. It's the most powerful marketing we've ever seen. So as bad as it is, it'll get much worse. So, okay, yeah, so I have to bring this up and it's a bit on the conspiratorial side. Okay, I have to do it. I have to do it, and it's a bit on the conspiratorial side.

I have to do it. I have to do it, you guys. I've been sitting on this. Let me set me this. It's just a patent that's real. So if you go look into it, you'll be able to find it. It's patent W0202060606. And this is my- I was just- My glass sixes in there, I know, which is the- I mean, that should be, that should say a lot right there. Yeah, so the patents, cryptocurrency system using

body activity data. What is it? Uh-huh? Yeah, so let's speculate about what that might entail in terms of- Wait, wait, say that again. It's cryptocurrency. So getting some kind of cryptocurrency,

being able to use that for body tracking data somehow. What the fuck? Yeah, so like Microsoft is apparently working on this. So how I don't understand how to do it. Yeah, I don't either. Yeah. I'm trying to, I'm trying to. Okay, who's got the conspiracy here? Oh, here, here, like, I don't understand how to do it. Yeah, I don't either. Yeah. I'm trying to, I'm trying to. So what's the, okay.

Well, who's got the conspiracy? Oh, here, here, like, you want to start a conspiracy, right? He's like, he's like, it's been on this pat and this is, and I think I'm gonna start a conspiracy. Why would they want to track your body activity and why are they gonna tie that into cryptocurrency? Like, what kind of like, you know, sort of a connection is there in terms of like paying,

how are they gonna use that, I guess as well? Well, you tax, like, okay, people have theorized that we're gonna get taxed for like our carbon usage and stuff like that. So imagine if you had some sort of a tracking system that tracks how much carbon I use every single day. I think social credit system, like that I'm that. I'm automatically taxed with this Bitcoin. So it says, oh, you today sir, used 400 units of carbon, therefore you owe seven bitcoins

or whatever, you know, like maybe that's, I mean, that's, I don't, that's a real carbon tax. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, no, I really think that that's, I mean, because the big scare is, is climate change next. Once we calm down with COVID and shit's, cause the big scare is climate change next. Once we calm down with COVID and shit like that and the next thing is to get back on the climate change freaking everybody out and carbon

and how are we gonna slow everybody down? And I do believe that we're gonna move in that direction where we're gonna get taxed for a while. Oh, yeah. They already talk about taxing you in California for how many miles you drive. Regardless of the car. Yeah.

So if you just drive X amount of miles, you'll get taxed for every single mile. Yeah, I'm wondering if it's some kind of deterrent for getting you to move around to be more mobile like it or if it's, see, I didn't know if it was that or if it's like more of some kind of incentive where you're, you know, if it's fitness related somehow like you're moving and like, yeah, right. Yeah, right. Like you get some kind of like, yeah, use that as some credit system

so you can actually like a cure more like Bitcoin from it or something. What did I say, Doug? What do you got, Doug? Honestly, I don't know. I mean, I have a diagram here, I think, Andrew can put up on the screen, people can try to figure it out.

Yeah, I could read the whole thing, but I don't really know what it's. No, you know what? I had no idea. It was just like somebody sent this to me and I'm like trying to figure it out. I thought maybe you guys had some ideas. I like my idea. You guys don't like that idea.

I do, but let's crowdsource this. So let's, we'll post this up. Yeah, our audience will be on top of this. And we definitely have enough conspiracy people. Yes, and I want the bet. Get your tip, we'll have to. We'll pick the best theory. I like tip, we'll pick the best theory. I like that.

I love that. We'll pick the best theory crowd sources. Remind, you know what, Angie, we'll actually, we'll put this on the main IG. So I'm very curious about this. And I know we have somebody who's like, bro, we got some smart ass. Yeah, I know we're good.

So when this goes live, we'll also put it up on the main IG so we can start to capture some of these. Speaking of climate change, by the way, if you're at any, if you want objective science or truth or whatever behind this, just research the latest nuclear energy technology. Just look into it because if they really cared about climate change, this is what they would be pushing. They would be pushing the newest technology for nuclear energy. In terms of the cleanest way to do it, the most cost effective.

It's so clean, it's ridiculous. It creates so much energy, it's ridiculous. And literally, literally, that right now could solve most of these issues. But nobody's talking about it because they don't want a solution, they want a wedge, and they want to push, either side wants to push their legislation. I started your foundation show last night. Yeah

Do you like it? Yeah, I only went episode through but it was enough to you know when I watched the first time was even better really Second episode. Yeah, it got it started to hook me in towards the back and it helped that you told me a little more about the story Because I was and maybe that's what it was. I was so confused at the the the sun or the, you know, the Empire. Yeah, that he's three people in one type of deal. Are you giving away like, his friends? No, no, no, no. No, you probably need to know this, actually to watch it, because I think that's what lost me.

I'm like, I don't understand this kid. This is really interesting concept because it's like the most narcissistic set up you possibly could have. Yeah, so it's like your bloodline, it's basically a monarchy, but it's just you, right? And so basically you're the one that is the empire of the entire universe and you repeat.

So you see yourself being born again. Your older self is part of your council. Your younger self is, you're teaching your younger self how to become an empire It's kind of faster. It's yeah, but I did not understand it the first time I started to watch it because I was distracted and then I was like I stopped it I don't know I was going on like a cannabis show, but just to kind of explain to me what was going on I'm like, oh, okay now it makes more sense and it is a lot more interesting now now I'm like, okay Now I'm intrigued by like this whole idea, speaking of cannabis, I got a hilarious story.

So, my kids don't listen to the show so, and they will one day, surprise. Surprise, so Jessica and I the other night, we're hanging out and the kids are in the room, right? Doing their thing, the babies asleep and we're like, hey, let's share a joint. Let's hang out and share a joint, right? So I'm like, let's go outside. I have a 12-year-old and a 16-year-old. Let's just go outside

so the smell stays. She's like, no, it'll be fine. We'll go in the bathroom and open the window. I'm like, all right, let's do that. How funny the circle of life. I feel like a game. You're in the bathroom. You got to do it for breeze. Exactly. I've done that. Like when I was a teenager, like trying to hide, right? Same thing, right? So we're in there, we're doing the thing,

hanging out, and then my daughter texts us, but boss, I smell a bunch of smoke. What's going on? And then my son gets on there. Yeah, it's really strong. It's something's burning. Now, now, because, and your paranoid dude. Because, exactly because exactly oh no because we're paranoid

Jessica replies on accident. She just replies. Oh fuck So I like go outside go out there and I'm pretending like I'm looking for the I don't know Where's this coming from I go outside? oh, I'm supposed like someone was smoking outside, I think we're okay, because when she said, oh fuck, it only scared my kids, like, oh, are they a fire? Yeah, the good news is, here's the good news, my kids have no idea what we'd smell like. You think that, I just think I don't believe that, I don't believe you're a nice cool son, I just don't know, he's like, it's like it's skunky, you know,

I know, you have a Santa Cruz, so it's like, it's like it's skunky, you know. Yeah, there's no, you're a new satin crew, so it's probably, it's like mandatory kids, no. Well, knowing, I know, you're actually top him. I'm like, he's sitting there. Yeah, as you could say, they're probably at the place, he's up there. No, 100% my son would have said, oh, I smells like weed.

Really? Yeah, he, but he doesn't know. Obviously, I don't know. So, I thought he was kind of like, cool. I don't know, did your son's really smart? He seems, you know what, he's so smart, and this is where I think you're naive because he is literally you and you would not lead on to your parents that you knew You would play them because you don't want them to know that's right. Yeah Yeah, how could you not see that with yourself? I think you guys could thank you, right?

It's a son not really agree and it's he not I mean, dude your son is so smart Yeah, that when it just couldn't him to have a disagreement The little fucker writes a fucking letter to her like and like just I've seen him. They're like perfect He knows what he's doing. He's not he's not a your average teenage boy, dude, and so you've been played. Yeah Yeah, you're getting played dude.. You're running out of sight, he put a graph in. You know, he's like, yeah, he's probably token of the same time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me and Courtney were having sex and you know, it was like getting into it, whatever. And things were moving, the beds moving, slam against the wall to walk everybody up and like, and I literally just like had to just cover myself

and then address it in like, with the blanket on, I'm like on everything's cool Somebody's knocking on the walls dad Everybody's like paranoid and you know scared cuz we're in this new place and like it's still kind of like there's Unrested I just I just pictured Justin how violent he is There's no violence No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, That quote's pretty good. I like how you do anything is how you do everything man With perfection how you work out and eat as any indication at all By the way, how did his Courtney's a hip-hop? Rescheduled it. Yeah, she's recovering right now. Yeah, that's the that's the worst It's like you go through a period as a kid where you have to be quiet

And then you're an adult you don't have kids like I can fucking do whatever I want then you have your own kids Like oh, it's back to where it was before. I got to hide everything. I mean, I'm already like, I mean, I'm really careful now, because originally I think I told the audience that I was gonna try and not smoke, which that was a terrible idea. And I, you know, I was doing that last year.

I, yeah, I just don't, you know, and I've been doing the edible thing because ever since COVID, I haven't been the same. I just don't, I know you guys like the edibles. It's just, it's such a different feeling to me. It is. It's different. I don't like how long it takes to hit.

I hate how long it lasts. Like I just prefer something that I can control. And it's a short window. It's a different form of THC. You're liver converts it to a different form. Yeah, I mean, it's obvious. It's very obvious to me. It's not, it's not the same feel. And it's not to form. Yeah, I mean, it's obvious. It's very obvious to me. It's not it's not the same feel

And it's not to say that like the right setting like if we're doing something all of us and we're like I mean a funny move or playing cards or something like Hey, let's all get an edible and have fun like but for myself for the reasons that I use it at night to kind of like It's my glass of wine, right? It's like literally a couple just for I feel myself calmed down. And the edibles does not do that. See, I'm the opposite. I can. I can get paranoid when I smell it. Yes, I can smoke a little bit, but it's got to be mild.

And unfortunately, every strain now at the dispensaries, like 17 or 18%, minimum. So I have to like search and find something that's like 9%. And then also, if I'm going to get paranoid it's usually with smoke. Now I can definitely get paranoid with edible but it's easy to control because I can see the dose. So I like a low dose of THC if I do use it and it's just a very mild uplifting feeling. My cousin brought me over these things. It was so cool to watch the evolution of it because now it's like in the open legal

a bunch of places and so how you know The response from consumers and what they want and like I've always wanted this and no one's ever made it until now they have they make because I've told you guys right so like Katrina will roll me a joint. They'll that same joint will last me all week long But it's not as fresh when it's when it's like that right, but it's I only take a couple hits off of it So it lasts the whole week. So they actually make these little and take a couple hits off of it so it lasts the whole week. So they actually make these little tiny, like literally like, I don't know, six hitters or whatever. Oh yeah, that's what I use.

Oh, you have little joints like that? Yeah, I'd never seen those before. Yeah, the filters on them and everything. You know, tiny mini-colors. You know, all the half, they have these containers that you vacuum seal. So you could put your joint in there and then you pump all the air out

and it'll keep it- I see. You know what, it'll keep it and keep it without it being all stinky Yeah, it'll it'll keep it fresher. Wow. I'm so disconnected from the space Yeah, I mean I always knew like everything that was like on the front end I just don't go to these clubs or anything so I'm I've been so removed That I don't see any of this stuff. So oh dude speaking of space. Are you guys watching this new arms race? That's happening between the US and Russia? No. No.

These hypersonic missiles. Oh, the missiles. Oh, the missiles. Yeah. hypersonic missiles that we're launching to kind of, I don't know, it's becoming like another arms. They're unstoppable missiles. They're so fast. Yeah, so like, we're talking like 30, 40 times the speed of sound.

Yeah. That these missiles are going. So the US just, I guess, showed that we have one that I think goes like 30 times the speed of sound and it uses the air around it and compresses it and uses it as a propellant. But think about that. 30 times the speed of sound for a missile. You basically can't do anything.

In the heck. Isn't that wild? Yeah, you're creating like a missile. You basically can't do anything. In the heck. Isn't that wild? Yeah, you're creating like a meteor. Yeah. Yes. Like what happens that slams into the earth? Like how big is that explosion? Well, there's also, and I don't, you know,

we don't know if they already have this or not. This is something that they've talked about for a while where they could put tungsten steel rods. So tungsten steel is extremely dense, extremely hard, extremely heavy, and you launch them from space, so from a satellite, and there's no warhead on it, so there's no explosive or nothing, but because it's travel rods, coming out of it. Just one rod, one big heavy rod, because it's traveling so fast, and because it's so heavy,

the kinetic energy alone is like a small nuke. Yeah. Wow. So you could fire it from space and it's cheap because there's no propellant, no nothing. They call it... It's pretty alarming stuff. They call it rods from God. Oh, yeah. Wow. How air's in a rod from God? I like how they call it God. Like God, you know, rod from Satan, I guess. Yeah, that's right.

But if that hits, it explodes with force that's just absolutely insane. How many billions of dollars has gone into making all this stuff? It wasn't space exploration originally supposed to bring us all together. Like we're all hanging out in these space stations. No, now it's like, how many of these satellites

can I smash up here and develop these crazy ass weapons that could destroy us all? They said that because they got a lot of tax money going to it, but it was always about arms and weapons and that's what it's always ends up being, right? That's 100% what it's all about. All right, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna take a more positive turn. So we're all gonna die.

I've been using, did I tell you guys I've been using Caldera on my son? No. Did I tell you guys? No, no. Okay, so. A really is? Yeah, I've heard like some people report

using it on their hands and having like incredible results. Well, so Adam was the first one to say that it helps a psoriasis. Then because of that, we've gotten all these messages from people who have skin conditions. I get them a lot, I actually don't even talk about it all the time. And they say it really helps.

Now it's not a medical product, so you've got to test it yourself to see if it works, but that, by the way, that one picture that we shared was 10 days, not 10 weeks. 10 days. 10 days, that guy's hands went from the way they looked in the before to after. Wow.

Wow. Of using it. So my son has a slight intolerance to eggs, and I think I told you guys, the doctor encouraged us to give him a tiny bit every single day, just to keep his immune system becoming hyperactive. But because of this, and we think it's because of this, he gets a little bit of dry skin like in the crease of his ear, and it'll itch and he'll like scratch it and stuff. And so at first I was like, maybe I should put some Vaseline on it to keep it more. I did. I started using Calderaa and it's been, I've been using it now for a week and I see improvement.

Oh yeah. That's just amazing, dude. It is. It really is amazing. I use it more now than the cream that I was prescribed. It just, because it's all natural and I feel like it actually works as good as like the steroid cream that they've given me. Yeah, and right, steroid type of kinds of stuff.

Yeah, yeah, so I'm always trying not to use that. I only use the steroid cream when it's like really, really bad for me, but which by the way, it's wild given me. Yeah, and right, it's very tough. What kinds of stuff? Yeah, yeah. So I'm always trying not to use that. I only use the steroid cream when it's like really, really bad for me, but which by the way, it's wild to me that the after COVID like my psoriasis was so bad. And it still hasn't like completely resolved or got back to where it was before. So I've been reading about there's more and more studies now in long COVID. And's effects. So here's what they say. Initially, when you get COVID, the virus is active in your body, in your system. But then the virus is gone. And what's left over are fragments that cause this immune reaction to the body. And then that's what causes a lot of problems.

Yeah. Is your own immune system. That's why they say some of these treatments for COVID that they're testing have to be done in the beginning because after the virus is already gone, now at that point it's not going to do anything to attack the actual virus, you have to then control your own immune system. So really, because your immune system became hyperactive and because psoriasis is a kind of autoimmune issue, makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's very obvious, too, because when I, one of the things that actually helps the psoriasis

more than anything is like if I do fast, or if I do like a fasting mimicking diet, or I'm like 500 count like really low. And because we were sick and not feeling good, nothing tastes good, everything was bland. Like I was super low calorie for a long period of time. And even when I came out and was like my taste came back, I still didn't have a much of an appetite.

So I was really, really low calorie, diet was good. What I was the foods that I was eating and my psoriasis was just off the chain. It was like I was eating ice cream and candy every day and eating burgers and like I was totally doing all the worst things I could do. That's how bad it was. It was worse than what it was when my diet

is completely to shit. That's how much it affected. Interesting. Yeah, my autoimmune stuff. Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Isn't that strange how so many people have such different? Yeah.

I do feel like my lung capacity is getting better. Okay. But it does still feel off. But I think a lot of that too is just because it's been affected. I haven't done a lot. I haven't pushed myself cardiovascular either. So there's a little bit of that too, right? So I think I'm just kind of out of it. It's not feeling, I haven't done a lot. I haven't pushed myself cardiovascular either, so there's a little bit of that too, right? So I think I'm just kind of out of it.

It's not feeling like it was before where I felt the pressure so much. I think now I'm just deconditioned because I haven't been doing it much. No, the fatigue is getting better. Yeah, the fatigue's definitely that's gone. I don't have that anymore. That lasted for a while, almost a month after COVID,

where yeah, I would just, if I had like a semi active day. You know what's funny is that Adam was the most blase about COVID. I like, like whatever. Now that he's had it, I was like, I want it. Give it to me. Now that he's had it and he elastethed for so long. We had an employee call in and say, oh, I got exposed

to COVID, I can't come in. And I was like, when's the last time we saw him? Who did you see the guy? I'm like, yeah. Why are you worried, bro? Oh, you don't want that again, do you? No, no, no. Now you're gonna get everybody DMing me again.

No, by the way, we were not exposed. The guy was exposed outside of work before we saw him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we already saw him. You said that you know people that have actually got it twice. Yeah, I don't know anybody yet to have. Yeah, I know people that speculate, but I don't know anybody that's but it was the same variant.

No, it was a different variant. Unlikely, it was two different variants. But I also have a friend that, oh, we know this person. I don't want to say their names, I don't know if they want us to say it. They got COVID tested, positive, recovered from it, went and got tested for antibodies and has none. Oh yeah.

Some people, Yeah, that's annoying. Some people don't develop antibodies after having it or even with the vaccine will develop antibodies. Really weird. Not as a positive air that they just guys going to say is that possible to though. They only test them and they don't. They only test a certain type of antibody. Yeah, they must be. Yeah. There's also like screen cell, you know, memory that's different, they don't test for. I'm gonna go get tested for antibodies, just to see.

Nice. Where are you going to do that? Lab core? Lab core. Oh, okay. Yeah, you just go and they'll test your antibodies. Oh, I'm telling you to do it, maybe. I'm curious.

Me too. Me too, I want to see where I'm going. Who's one of our friends? Was it Paul Saladino or someone who's been doing that? One of our friends that got it, he's been like testing his, anti-bodies and like seeing how long he lasts. I can't remember who it was. I thought it was Paul.

Yeah, no idea. You know, he got completely wiped out. Did you see that? His Instagram, they never gave it back to him. I know. He had to re, he's been rebuilding it. Wow, he was, I don't remember where he was. Dude, I, I, I called it.

I called it. I called it. The second social media started acting like an editor. That's the one they open themselves up to all this now They're they're gonna be hated what they could have done is they could have acted like the phone company Or they're like put up whatever you guys regulate it yourself the users can market if they want to decide what they want to watch What they don't want to watch but once they started to edit now they're and I knew it They're gonna get regulated at some point. They're gonna make a case for it

Isn't it already kind of regulated in the US different than it is in other countries like I I they're protected get regulated at some point. They're gonna make a case for it. Is it already kind of regulated in the US different than it is in other countries? Like I... They're protected like phone companies are currently. But because now there's a case that they shouldn't be, like a phone company like AT&T, you and I get on a call together and plan a bank robbery.

AT&T cannot be held accountable. But if AT&T is editing calls and allowing someone not others, now you can be held accountable. But if AT&T is editing calls and allowing someone not others, now you can be held liable. So the social media companies are currently being regulated like phone companies. However, because they're starting, they're editing obviously,

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MP20 for 20% off your order. All right, here's the rest of the show. First question is from Nicholas Costa 3517. Does cardio kill muscle gains? Okay, we gotta clear this up. Kill. We still get this and I believe that a lot of the pro and anti cardio rhetoric That's happening now in the fitness space is maybe kind of connected to how we talk about it So first off, I want to be very clear. There's health benefits to any form of activity so long that's applied appropriately

Now depending on your goal you can apply some forms of activity in ways that might be countered your goal, or in ways that will be pro your goal. So cardio can be either pro muscle gain or anti muscle gain. Here's where it can be pro muscle gain. Does it improve your health and does it improve your capacity to do resistance training? So let's say all you ever do is lift weights and you do heavy sets and low reps and that's how you like to train and your stamina is really preventing you from training in ways where you can increase your work capacity to give the kind of volume that maybe your body

would need to propel you any further. And that sense, some cardio will help you. It definitely will. Doing some cardio, improve your capacity, your work capacity, can help you build more muscle. Now, how can it hurt when you're sending competing signals? When I'm training for lots and lots of endurance, and I'm training for lots and lots of strength and muscle, well, now I'm going to get a little of both and not a lot of either. That's when it can kill. Our big problem really is

when number one goal people have with working out is to get leaner, right? Body composition changes is the number one goal. And the problem is when people make cardio, the cornerstone of their routine for fat loss. It's just a terrible strategy. That's the thing that we tend to talk about. That's all it is. That's the period. That's it. It's just when I think. That's the thing that we tend to talk about. That's all it is. That's the period. That's it. When I think back to all the clients that I trained that were coming in for fat loss, their strategy with cardio was terrible.

And it doesn't mean that we never did cardio. It just means that when they first got back into the routine because there's this idea of, okay, if I want to lose, there's, I don't know anybody. If you were to take a room of 10 people that are not fitness fanatics, like people that probably listen to our show,

and say, hey, if you needed to lose weight, okay, you need to lose 20 pounds as fast as you can. And what would you do? What would you do? And they would say, oh, well, I would stop eating this or I'd stop eating this or cut my calories. They know there's a reduced their calories, and they'd say, and I would do cardio.

Literally, I guarantee that 99% of them would say that. And the truth is, that is a terrible strategy for almost anybody who's getting started on their fat loss journey. I am not speaking to somebody who's consistent and been working out for 10 years and doesn't miss and is hits their protein intake and has a healthy amount of calories. They're consuming 2500 to 3000 a day and they're a great place and I'm saying don't do cardio. No, I'm not talking to that person. I'm talking to the majority of people that are coming in that are looking for fat loss.

Starting off with cardio is a terrible strategy. Yeah, and I'll take it even further. You take that group of people and we can even make it a little bit more complex and say here's three different, or four different forms of exercise. Rank them in order in terms of which one's gonna help you burn body fat the most. Lifting weights or resistance training,

most people with rank at the bottom. The truth is it's at the top. It speeds up your metabolism and it results in pure fat loss, not muscle loss, and it gives you better long-term results. That's it. There is no demonizing cardio here. It's just, it's, people are, tend to use it wrong.

They tend to use the wrong tool for the goal that they have. But now the question is, is it kill muscle gains? Well, if you're doing, if the cardio signal that you're sending is out competing the muscle building signal, then yes, it will. But if you're doing, if're number one goal is to build muscle and you do cardio in a way to augment that. Now, what does that look like?

For me, it looks like higher rep sets, supersets, pushing the sled, maybe even some sprints here and there. That would help augment or accelerate or at least amplify how my workouts are in terms of muscle building. That's what that would look like. But if I'm doing like long distance running and cycling and you know, when I think there's a difference there when you look at like the different types of cardio that you're introducing.

And I do subscribe to that work capacity increase of really fueling into, you know, new muscle gains if you're seriously stuck in that low rep range and you don't have the sort of endurance to get through like high reps, but working through those sets with higher reps specifically too, like that's gonna build up your endurance and have that effect, which in a sense is a cardiovascular experience.

It's just not like the traditional sense that people attribute it towards. So in terms of just staying overall healthy and including movement and activity in your day, that's at the utmost priority. But how you structure that does make a massive difference in how your physique is. People just think it's a faster way like how you structure that does make a massive difference in how your physique is. People just think it's a faster way

to get to their results and it's not. That's just a mistake. It's not a faster way to get leaner. It's not, and especially if you don't have everything dialed in nutritionally, like if you're not feeding the body adequate calories and macros that it needs, and then in addition to that, you're also pushing excessively on cardio, you're not gonna build muscle.

You're definitely not gonna build muscle that way. And you're gonna initially lose some fat, but eventually we'll hit a plateau and then you're in a really shitty place. You're super low calorie, you're moving like crazy and your body's not changing anymore. Yeah, now to be clear, the perfect, and of course this is different from person to person,

but generally speaking, the perfect routine for overall health and wellness and quality of life has a strength building and muscle building component, a cardiovascular component, and a mobility flexibility component. Now this isn't, also of course, you wanna have a spiritual component and you wanna have good sleep and all that stuff.

But as in terms of working out, those three components would be part of a routine for overall health and longevity. And that's just the bottom line. Now, there's individual variances, and you could value muscle and strength more than mobility and flexibility, or more than the cardio or vice versa. That, of course, you want to take into account. But yeah, this label that we may be anti-cardial, we're not, we're anti doing things the wrong way

for whatever your goal is, and that's what we're always gonna talk about. Next question is from Chris FTW-8. Besides saving time, what are the benefits of supersets? Oh man, strength endurance. Strength endurance is the main one. So there's low rep strength, maximal strength, and the strength endurance bodybuilders tend to have this.

You get a power lift and a bodybuilder working out together. And when it comes to the heavy weight, the power lifter is going to outperform them typically. Once they get into sets and wraps, and then you'll see the bodybuilders start to outperform because of the strength endurance, the pump is another one. I love the pump. Super sets really amplify that. That's one of my favorite effects.

That's a really weird one for me, because I didn't realize, I've never working out with Adam, even when I was just doing my normal sort of strength routine that was low reps, and then doing the superets of just this feeling of almost in gorge like tightness. Like I couldn't like keep going because the pump was so intense because it wasn't something

I ever focused on to where it actually limited, you know, any more reps that I could do. And that just like blew my mind. It was my strategy to level the playing field. Exactly. No, I mean, this is actually some of the other benefits of this is the last question. This is another great way for you to build some cardiovascular endurance. It's not going to compete with marathon running if you're trying to get cardiovascular endurance, but this is one of the ways that you can get some of that.

That's what's beautiful about weight training is that you can do things like super sets and triceps and short and the rest periods and watch how your heart starts beating. And I mean, that's how you strengthen your heart. So there's ways that you can get cardiovascular benefits through strength training. The opposite is not true. Yeah. Now, another benefit of super sets is to focus on a muscle that you may not necessarily be connecting too well in compound movements.

For example, maybe you do barbell rows and you feel it more in your arms than you do in your back. One way you can do a superset is you can do an isolation movement for your lats and then move to the barbell rows. It's called a pre-exhaust. It allows you to feel that muscle more, right? You could just for chest too, like flies before a press, or maybe your glutes in a squat,

you could do a hip thrust right before a squat, or you could do it for your quads, a sissy squat, or a leg extension before a squat. So you could also do this. Another way you could do a superset is to just in terms of increasing the value, or I should say that the quality of the workout experience, right? So let's not discredit the quality of the workout experience, right?

So let's not discredit the experience of the workout. We all love certain feelings. There's definitely value in that, whether it benefits your physical body or not. There's certain things I do just as I love the way they feel. I love supersetting opposing muscle groups. There is no better feeling

than having your chest and your back pumped at the same time, or your biceps and your triceps pumped at the same time So I like to do that sometimes We'll do a super set chest and back exercise or a bicep and tricep exercise just for the experience the improving the quality of experience Next question is from claymation 14 How important is it to follow a program? Can you just improvise your sessions and do more instinctive training and still see progress? What's that saying? No thyself, right? Was that quote, right? You got

to know yourself a little bit before you can decide this. Like, and most people fall in this category. You're going to tend to do the stuff that you like. You're going to trick yourself. Yeah, you're going to avoid the stuff that you don't like. I think we're guilty of this. Even with all of our experience, knowledge, and with the points you're about to make, I think that it's just human nature to do that. And so you've got to be really self-aware that you're probably doing these things.

And I mean, and I know that I train intuitively, but I know that every time I follow a program strictly, I always benefit from it. Because it's written down, even though I know I have these tendencies and I try and be aware and change, and it still doesn't matter when I follow a program, I always get better results. What I like to do for myself is because I've trained so long, so there's an instinctive or intuitive component that I like to implement.

But knowing myself, there's certain things that I tend to avoid, like high rep, lower body work in particular, or mobility work. And so then what I'll do with my program is, I'll write those aspects in. So it'll be open in terms of what I can do within the workout, but I'll say to myself, for the next six weeks or five weeks, I'm not going any lower than 15 reps for lower bodies. That way, that's the part of the program that I'll write for myself. Now, what I do in the program, what exercise I choose, that's totally free, but that's the component I'll write down because that's the component for me at least that I screw up on.

I also think it's important to decipheride for whether you are training or exercising because if you're exercising. This is fine If you if because the difference between training and exercise training is you are you're training towards a goal I want to lose weight I want to build muscle you have a I want to get faster jump higher You have a specific goal. You're training. You're you're not gonna beat that with by the person who's following a program You're always gonna do do better if you follow a program. But if your goal is just to be healthy and you choose strength training as your main mode to stay healthy and exercise, there's nothing wrong with this.

Well, yeah. It's too to be trained because it doesn't matter if you don't progress a little bit more in muscle or strength one week or not. You're still getting tons of benefits just from the exercise. So it really does matter what your goal is here. If you're trying to get to a destination, training program 100% if you are just exercising then this is totally fine. Yeah, I mean that's exactly what I was going to bring up in terms of being in sort of a maintenance phase.

Or yeah, you're just focusing on your own health and listening to your body and what your body needs are. I think there's a definite good place for training intuitively. It's something that I operate more of these days than I have in the past, but also I know that I need to also implement a good program at some point in order to push me a bit and to get me outside of my comfort zone because you do get into those patterns and it just becomes one of those things where now I'm just kind of spinning my tires.

Nothing's really happening. I need to get outside of that by really being more structured. Yeah, I'd say most people benefit from a structured program. I would say, but if you've been working out for a long time on your own and you've been consistent, and when I say long time, that means years, not like oh, six months I've been working out for a long time on your own and you've been consistent, and when I say a long time, that means years, not like, oh, six months I've been consistent. You're looking at two, three, four years at least.

That's when you can start to really figure yourself out, know your body, and be more intuitive. But even then, you'll benefit from having... Yeah, I mean, would you deny, I mean, you're the most experienced person in this room when it comes away lifting, and just as the most knowledgeable about it. No, I just said, I hope for some of myself. Otherwise, I start to gravitate towards,

avoiding the shit that I don't like. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with the Intuit. I mean, if you're not trying to make major moves and you're training because you do it for the mental health and you want to feel good and you know it strengthens your heart and it keeps you fit. There's nothing wrong.

In fact, I think, I mean, that's where I'm at right now, right? I just got done saying how much I benefit from falling a program, yet I'm not falling a program. I'm more like intuitive trainer now, but I also don't have major goals right now. I'm not trying to add a bunch of muscle, burn a bunch of body fat. I'm just trying to kind of maintain.

Next question is from Jenny Chapman 356. Can you speak to how fitness isn't selfish? As a mom, I really struggle with this. Yeah, there's a big challenge for parents, especially moms. They can be though. Okay, depends how you use fitness. Are you using it to escape? Or are you using it to improve yourself and make you...

And include others. Right, and better at what you do. So, you know, that saying you can't pour from an empty cup. If you're unhealthy, if you're not fit, you are not going to be as effective as a mom, or as an employee, or as a partner, because, I mean, look, if you feel like crap, you're just not as good at handling bad

and stressful situations. You're probably more likely to self-medicate with other things. You're not gonna be your best self. The best version of yourself. If fit and healthy you is the best, everything else that you could possibly do because you're fit and healthy, it doesn't guarantee that.

It just means you're in a position to be even better at those things. But if you work out to avoid and escape, you know, if you're like, oh, sorry, you gotta go work out again, sorry, you gotta work out again. And you're doing this because you don't wanna be around your husband or you don't wanna deal with your kids.

And I get there's a natural component to this, by the way. A little bit of that is totally normal. Like we all do this where we're like, I gotta get out of the house for a second, I get that. But if it's this chronic thing, then yeah, I gotta get out of the house for a second. I get that. But if it's this chronic thing, then yeah, I could definitely become selfish. But again, if you're doing it to make yourself healthier,

it's an investment in everything. Like I don't want a partner who doesn't take care of their health because I know how much worse that's gonna make everything else. It just is, It's a fact. So fitness done right in a healthy way is not selfish at all. It's all the mentality going into it and the psychology behind it. If you're in it to better yourself and to improve and to grow and to make sure that you

have that kind of energy and stamina to play with your kids and to, you know, beat chipper and lively around your family and friends. Like, it benefits all those things, but there's a structure behind that that you need to consider. And, you know, it can, it can get to a point where we focus on the wrong things where like, you know, it's all body focused or it's all like, you know, the aesthetics and it's, it's all just like, I'm not getting this and I hate my body because it feels flabby here and it becomes this like obsession. And that's something that can happen. And so you could see how that would become

like a selfish endeavor once we start focusing on those things versus like how to, you know, really improve all the other aspects. I mean, I think when you look at the social media landscape, I would actually make the case that a majority of the people, fitness, influence, you see, they're actually selfishly motivated. Yeah. So, um, although I think it's important, I want to part. It's an insecurity driven, isn't it? That's right.

So I think what you have to be very aware on if it's, because we talked about that study, or the right right, that you could take a whole week off straight in your training routine and get just as good of results as the person who trains every single day. So if there is this, you know, oh, I've built this routine, I never miss, I go five days a week, and at this time,

and you have that, and your wife or your husband tells you like, hey, you know, honey, I wanna talk to you, you know, have dinner, there's some things have been on my mind, this and that. Oh, that's, yeah, can you do another time because this is my time of working out? When your kid has a baseball game,

that's right. If you start making these decisions that sacrifice other parts of health, in pursuit of what you call your health goals with fitness, but it's really driven because of your insecurities about your body. It can be very selfish. And I mean, I saw this in competing.

I think that was competing was one of the most selfish things that I ever done in my life. My whole life revolved around my food choices, my training times, my sleep, and I made everybody else around me adapt. So that's very selfish. So I think there's definitely a balance here, but I also think it can be very unselfish

to not take care of yourself. So not taking care of yourself can be very selfish in comparison to being there for your partner. You already said it, Sal, that when you are healthy or a better husband, you're a better father, you're just a better person, a better employee, a better boss, so it can be very selfish to not. So there's this fine dance between the two of them.

Yeah, I know for me, this is just something I'm more aware of now, more than ever, the mental benefit for me is probably the most important. I think, and because I've been exercising for so long consistently, I've done a really good job of treating myself naturally for things like anxiety and depression, which I think I might be prone to. I think this is something that might actually, might have issues to these ups and downs, and regular exercise is really good for me in that particular sense. And I know when I miss, and I miss for a few days,

I start to feel these kind of mental effects. So it's real important, but the challenge is exactly what you're saying, Adam, is this more of a selfish thing or is it benefiting me? I mean, I just recently had an issue with this because the place that we live in now, I would work out in the garage in the early morning, but the garage is literally right

underneath the baby's room and I'd wake them up. And so, you know, Jessica's like, you can't, if you work out in the morning, you're gonna wake up. And I struggle with this, pissed off. No, I'll do it quietly, I'll do it. But I had to like, I had to accept it, like, it's true. Like, I'm gonna wake them up. And so I got to find an alternative.

And so what I do is I, you know, you guys see me, I scramble over here and I do an hour workout in 35 minutes, some weeks when that's just the way it's gonna have to be, but that was tough for me. That was tough for me because there's a selfish component too, which is like, ah, I gotta get, you know, it's gotta be my workout. So this depends, this depends.

But I tell you what, if you have a really good partner that you trust and they say to you, hey, your workouts are starting to become a little selfish, as hard as that is to hear, you might need to kind of consider that maybe they're telling you the truth. You know, consider that. Look, if you like our information,

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