Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1673: How to Know If You Have Reached Your Genetic Muscle Building Potential, the Downside of Over-Consuming Protein, the Toxins in Vegetables & More

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to know when you have reached your genetic potential, whether you can over-consume protein, if it is normal to progress on some lifts but regress on others at the same time, and if it is true certain vegetables are toxic. Another great forgotten exercise. (4:05) New technology is emerging in the housing market. (12:24) The importance of having tough conversations. (18:00) Organifi Pure, take it so your brain doesn’t fart like Justin’s. (22:14) To catch a predator. (25:28) When science proves that ‘class clowns’ may be the brightest people in the room. (30:13) Mind Pump Recommends, Dune in theaters, and HBO Max. (36:37) Felix Gray has now entered the gaming market! (39:05) You can die from having too much gas?! (44:56) The sue-happy people need to stop. (46:30) #Quah questions #1 - How do you know when you have reached your genetic potential and what is the age that most people reach it? (51:27) #Quah question #2 - Can you over-consume protein? (59:17) #Quah question #3 – Is it normal to progress on some lifts but regress on others, at the same time? If not, what can be the problem? (1:03:22) #Quah question #4 – What is your take on certain vegetables being toxic? (1:08:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Promotion: MAPS Anabolic and NO BS 6-Pack Formula – Get Both for $59.99!    Tip: How to Fix All Your Biceps Problems - T NATION 3-D Printed Houses Are Sprouting Near Austin as Demand for Homes Grows - WSJ Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Los Gatos woman charged with running secret teen parties filled with booze and sex Are more humorous children more intelligent? A case from Turkish culture Dune | In Theaters and on HBO Max October 21 | HBO Max Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Chinese man dies after guzzling 1.5 liters of Coca-Cola Kellogg's customer files $5 million lawsuit alleging Pop-Tarts don't have enough strawberries Visit My Serenity Kids for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MP20” at checkout** How Your Genetics Influence Your Muscle Building Potential – Mind Pump Blog Here Are The Ages You Peak at Everything Throughout Life The Myth of Optimal Protein Intake – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Luke Storey (@lukestorey)  Instagram Dave Chappelle (@davechappelle)  Instagram Paul Saladino (@carnivoremd2.0)  Instagram Mikhaila Peterson (@mikhailapeterson)  Instagram    

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probably the next decade or two. Then we talked about the heated meeting we had the other day. Things got fiery here at Mind Pump Studios, but it ended as they always do. We all made out with each other. Yeah. Then we talked about Justin's brain fart. He was talking about something

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the Mind Pump code, you get 20% off. Head over to organifi.com, ORGANIFI.com forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump and get 20% off. Then we talked about the local mom, local here nearby, who was housing teenagers at our house, and they were doing crazy stuff. Disgusting woman, she went to jail, crazy story. What's wrong with you, lady? Then we talked about the study on class clowns. It appears that class count clowns are usually really, really smart, which is great news for us here at Mind Pump.

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Progress in some lifts but regress in others and the final question this person wants to know If certain vegetables are actually toxic there's been a of talk, especially around the carnivore community, talk about natural defenses that vegetables have, and that makes them bad for you or does it? We dispel some of the myths. Also, there's only three days left, 72 hours, for the huge MAP centabolic and no BS6 pack formula, sale.

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Hey, I wanted to give a little shout out or some props to a T-Nation, read a great article the other day. I don't know if it was a new article, sometimes they republish old articles, but it brought up an exercise that I've actually done in the past and I haven't done a long time, but forgot about, what's that one guy

that writes for them? This is last thing like the Bidow? The Bow or the Bidow or what? Smart dude, really like the guy. The Bidow. And I think he was the bed out. The bow or the bill or what? Smart dude. Yeah. I really like the bed out. And I think he was the author of it, but it was a bicep exercise. All right, so let me explain so people know what I'm talking about. So obviously the bicep flexes the elbow, so we know that, right? Curl. But a lot of people don't realize that the bicep

supernates the hand, too. So this is a offset cable curl. So in other words, instead of holding the handle, so that it's here. You're like, you're on. Yes holding the handle, so that it's here, like you're on. Yes, the handle, you hold the handle and then the cable comes out to here, so that supernating it also provides resistance. And then when you come up, because you have to supernate with the extra resistance, you get a crazy squeeze. Oh, I've seen, have you seen, I don't know if there's a name for it either, where you, where you just grab the dumbbell on one side of it. Yeah. On one side more, so you have to kind of,

to try and keep it level and balance, right? Throws a little bit more of that. That's squeezed. On the wrist pronation. Oh yeah, supination. So I was messing around. I did a little bit of that with the cable. Yeah.

The squeeze is. I'd never done it with a cable for long. The squeeze is insane. So you just basically take the handle and instead of grabbing the actual handle, you grab like the canvas part that attaches the handle. So it's like this. And then the cable comes out on the pinky side, right? So it's like if I curl it without supernating it would be a hammer

curl. But then what I do is I, I supernate really hard, that extra, especially at the top. Oh man, this is crazy. Now when you go back down, are you going back to a neutral grip? Yes. Okay, so you go back to a neutral grip and then you, and I super on the way up Okay, but that extra resistance at the top especially at the very very top. Huh, you can't go very heavy Yeah, I'm have you seen Chris Duffins like dumbbell. It's like three pronged. Oh, yeah It's kind of like the same concept as those those Almost those bells that you put your right, right? Yeah, somewhat like that and it gives like this totally different loading sort of on the top and the back of the arm, like so it has sort of like an asymmetrical

kind of a load to it. It looked interesting. I thought it was kind of a problem. It looks like you could actually, because it has like three, if I'm, that's the one that has like three, three different handles. Yeah, it's three different handles.

So I think you can grab like in it. You can grab on the outside of it. And you've seen those bells before, the bell is like, Yeah, it looks like a big metal, like boxing gloves or something. Yeah, yeah. So, but,

We have mega man. So his gives you that weight distribution there, but then also in other places too, because you can grab in like three different. You know what? I didn't know, did he, yeah, I think he came out of those. He had that and then the shoulder rock.

There you go, right there. It's called the Kayu Bell, but it's kind of spelled with... Q Bell. Q Bell. Yeah, Q Bell. You know what that reminds me of the way he spelled it? It reminds me of Hagen Dozz.

Like a lot of people don't realize Hagen Dozz and American Brand. It's an American brand that tried to look foreign. Yeah, they're like, we're gonna make it look like it's some foreign. So you try to sell them out of your mouth. Put some Umla's on there. You're ready look foreign. Yeah, we're gonna make it look like it's some foreign. So we can charge you. I see it, buddy. Put some umla's on there.

You're ready to go. Yeah, really. So he did with this. Yes, he did. I mean, doubles of sales. Yeah, you know it's deal you can charge more expensive. Ooh, he's signing. He's ordered from somewhere.

This is engineering from Norway. So let me just. Yeah, see how he has his. Yeah, interesting. You know, a lot of people don't, I mean, we never really think about this, right? Because we're used to dumbbells, barbells, and cables. But where the weight is loaded,

like for example, here's another great exercise, because kettlebells have specific exercises. But sometimes if you adapt kettlebells to bodybuilding exercises, you get a very different feel. Sure. For example, kettlebell flies with the weight on the outside of your hand, and then you bring it down and the weight, obviously, the way that it's distributed, you get more

tension higher in the back. I love the pull of that. Yes. It really enhances that stretch portion of the lip. Or even shoulder presses, which I think you almost always do. Oh, yes. I do really. And I mean, when you have the kettlebell resting on the back of the wrist, it helps pull you in that

That natural position that you should be in right because everybody's kind of forward and so if you have a dumbbell It's everyone's gonna have this tendency to press forward whereas the weights distribute on the back kind of has this natural Bill you back which puts you in a I think a better alignment. I remember years ago, dude working out in a neighbor's garage We had a neighbor who, let's see, I was 15 maybe and he was, it was 50s but he used the bodybuild back in the day and, you know, we knew each other and he knew that I started working out and I was really into it and so he goes, oh, you should, you know, come lift the mic garage or whatever. I went in his garage and he had the most old school weights I've ever seen.

He had dumbbells where the ends of them were round. Like the ones you see in cartoons. Oh really? Yeah, so he had like little cannon balls but like fused in the middle. Yes, that's what those were his dumbbells. Amazing. And they were so weird, right?

But also cool. No, I love those. I love those, like, you know, the cartoons we got the bomb that's just like has like a little wick. Yeah, that's always like this cannon ball, the cartoons we got the bomb. That's just like, has like, a little wick. Yeah, that's always like this cannonball thing. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Did you notice the lift?

Speaking of cartoons, did you know what an Anvil was when you watch cartoons? Or did you think, dude, the Anvil was always come from the sky. Yeah, it's smashing people. I remember the first time I actually saw an Anvil. I was on a job with my dad and there was an Anvil there and I looked at it and then it dawned on me. That's what's, they're throwing in the cartoon.

What are they they what are they primarily used for? Uh, shaping metal. Oh, I thought it was always a counterweight. No, it's a blacksmith. Blacksmith. Yes. So they they they form and fashion like a I don't know what kind of metal you're right. That's horseshoes. And they're there.

So are there. Yeah, horseshoes. Yeah. Old tools are really cool. I also thought it was used as a counterweight No, Mike the original reason for my great grandfather was a blacksmith Really? Tana really yeah, wow interesting. So he'd be like horseshoes. I guess so. Yeah, oh, yeah

Wow, that's really cool. I didn't know him. That was a very specialized skill back in the day One that you pass on to your kids and so on That is really really have you ever seen a horse kit shoot? You see that? On TV, now that I drive the nails, like into their foot, it looks so, it looks like it hurts. It does, it doesn't hurt them.

My dad had an old level. So, you know, the current levels, most people use, it's got the little bubble in the middle. You know, the little thing with water, there's a bubble. Is that mercury for a while? I don't know. But I know it's, I don't know, right? But we know what that looks like.

And then now they use lasers and stuff. My dad had one that had a hanging pendulum. So, and they call that a plumb line? Yeah, take a plumb line. And then he talked about. What was that for? Leveling. Oh, okay.

And then he talked about the, how they would level big, big, big, big floors. And the way they would do it is, I'm going to butcher this, is they would fill a tube with water and half water, half air. And then they'd line this tube up, they'd put the tube all the way across the floor and use the water level as a way to level the entire, I don't know, is that how the water set? So that was what I'm sure. Is that because we didn't have like level,

I mean, we had levels back when your dad was doing so I thought that it was just we didn't have the, that's the way they would do big, big floors when he was a kid. And interesting. Yeah, so there's the plum line right there. Oh yeah, yeah. So like a lot of this stuff is ancient technology,

like the Romans, they made aqueducts that brought water from the Alps all the way down to Rome, zero plumbing, and it was all through balance. It was all through gravity, all the way up from up there to, and some of them to this day still bring water down. And our Romans had it down. They were pretty pretty ahead of time. You wonder who's smarter us who like are like our era, you know, that builds upon you stuff like this or the first person to come up with that. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Think of the think of the think of the mind you focus. Yeah, think of the mind you have to have

when you're like building a building or you're putting to get building a house back then you need straight lines like how do I like and you have no you didn't have the. Yeah, come up from scratch. Yeah, and create something like that. If you ever go to Rome and you get a tour of the Colosseum, they'll explain how they used to have, they would be able to produce shade in there. They could fill it with thousands of people and get thousands of people out within like 40 minutes or something like that.

They could flood it with water for mock naval battles. I mean, it's all like wild. Are you guys watching the, you're speaking of like technology and building and stuff like wild. Are you guys watching the speaking of like technology and building and stuff like that? Are you guys staying up on the like the 3D printing on houses and stuff? You know, there's more and more of these communities that are really yeah, yeah. No, last I saw was, I think it was in Mexico, they're starting to kind of like try and make more affordable housing. I want to say it's in three US states now and maybe Doug can fact check me. I think that's what I saw. I was watching. I was actually talking to my mom's husband and her were up here up visiting. And we

are just talking about random stuff like that. We're just talking about the housing market. This and that. And I said, you know, one of the things that I think is really interesting as we're seeing this rapid growth in or the price of the house just get keep going and going and getting crazy at the same time, we're also getting more advanced with these 3D printing houses. And right now, they can print a whole house for 10 grand. That's crazy. So now, is it a big machine and they probably use

some kind of composite material? Yeah, it looks like a moldable, a bead that this machine kind of runs over. I think it's like a concrete. It is concrete. It's like a typeable, like a bead that this machine kind of runs over. I think it's like a concrete. It is concrete. It's like a type of concrete, but it's pliable for like the first 24 hours. So it like, because right now, so I mean, and here's the thing, right? So they have to, and I don't know what the like right now,

it's probably not realistic and feasible to do this a bunch. Right. We're at the still early stages. Because I mean, just setting up the 3D printer is like an all deal. Because if the 3D printer is on, I'm thinking about, you're building a house out on some dirt and like, it has to be so perfectly level

or just think about that. What would do with the house? So in order to 3D print an entire house, you have to turn into Tim Burton house. Yeah. So it's still it still looks a little You know wonky and a little ugly, but I mean it's there. There it is. Yeah, that's exactly it people okay People really don't serve. I had a client that was really into this tech This was maybe five years ago no longer eight years ago and he was explaining to me How 3D printing

is gonna completely change everything. Completely. Now obviously the tech has to get there, but imagine if you have... Give a look how close it is already. Oh yeah, and now that's on a track, that's a huge machine. Imagine when these are mobile machines

communicating with each other, and they're driving around and 3D printing. Shipped forward. Yeah, imagine when you'll be able to just, okay, get a hundred acres. Download the plan. Yeah, download the you'll be able to just, okay, get a hundred acres and just download the plan. Yeah, download the plan and just go also, you know, 500 houses get built on that. Dude, yeah. And then provide housing for like superdurchy. You know that they also can 3D print, like tissues, they'll 3D print cells. So they can start,

so they can start, and they're talking about in the future, they'll be able to 3D print organs based off of your cells. Right. So they can print you a heart, talking about in the future, they'll be able to 3D print organs based off of your cells. Right. So they could print you a heart, a liver, you know, whatever. Office, or another one is where they'll be able to 3D print drugs. So on a molecular level, they'll be able to create your own, you know, Have you seen that before, Doug? I haven't. Yeah, not cool.

Super cool. Yeah, we went down the rabbit hole, because my mom and him had no idea either. I'm like, oh, yeah, no, we're 3D printing super cool. Yeah, we were we went down the rabbit hole and they're because they my my mom and him had no idea Either I'm like, oh, yeah, no, we're 3d printing houses now Yeah, and I mean obviously that the 3d printer works around the clock So once you start it and set it you everyone goes home and it just thing just keeps building I start paying attention because there was like this competition where a few of these companies We're trying to get the contract for Mars. Oh, I saw that. Did you see that? I did.

Yeah, so they were all competing to try and see which was the most efficient and could withstand the most, you know, crazy elemental forces and everything. Yeah, because you can't make a mistake. Like one mistake is done. No, one mistake is done. Yeah, because they're Mars. Yeah, so they'd like, yeah, they'd add all the stress. I mean, was it like they would smash it?

Was something like some kind of like, I don't know, was a crane was like dropping something on top of the house to see how much pressure it would take before the thing broke. And there's like two that stood out and then one got the contract. So what'll be interesting to me is what this does to like a regular house, right?

So when this happens, and this has gotta be five, maybe 10 years out tops before this is realistic, before this can provide, now it is definitely not gonna be up to the standard of a custom house that's built for you by hand, not like that. But so do you think that it will just create this crate, like that'll become like, like they have a house that's built by hand, it'll be still really, really expensive

or you can go like, or do you think it'll bring them closer together where it'll bring the house built by hand way down? Okay, look at cars, right? So cars, a lot of mass produced cars are automated, but the really expensive ones, right? You go by a Ferrari, what's one of the selling hand made? Hand crafted, hand stitched, all that stuff.

But mass production is all through you know, through machines. So I would imagine that it would be mass production of homes, that, especially high density housing, yeah, that they'll just print high density. That's what I'm saying. So you think that it, they'll still be, so it'll, there'll still be a huge discrepancy in price. It's not going to just because it now will have hundreds or thousands more affordable homes for people.

It doesn't mean that that the, the, the Ferrari price will come down. It'll still stay up there because it's will have hundreds or thousands more affordable homes for people. It doesn't mean that the Ferrari price will come down. It'll still stay up there because it's hand-to-hand. That's what I think. That's gonna be neat. I mean, imagine, I see this and I think, especially being in California with the homeless crisis. I think that, imagine if we could just have, it's to find somewhere where we could build

a hundred of these suckers. It really will be our first time. Oh, that's the, why you gotta poop on my face? just have a fine somewhere where you could build a hundred of these stuff. The bureaucracy first. I know. That's the way you got to poop on my face. I just say I want to be all positive. I love innovation, bro. Apparently, our government doesn't.

That's hilarious. I hate it. Anyway, I wanted to give some kudos to Andrew. Well, two things. First, he won a bet this morning. So he did. So he's a younger generation, right? So he's a compared to us.

He's a kid. He's a grown man, but he's a little baby boy. And so I'm wearing the shirt, right? So I come out and I'm like, if you know what movie this is, I'll give you five bucks. Didn't realize the frickin' movie was going on. He said, he said, he said, he said, oh man, he got you dude.

Oh, I'm not sure dude. But if I cover the name here and you see that, which I mean, you guys remember, Amity? I don't think I would have got that if it didn't say Jaws right on Amityville 4. But like Andrew, I'm, you know, I would have seen that. Idiot. You know what this is?

Great written right there. Dude, you're the dork. Also, I want to give him kudos because Andrew, being part of the executive team yesterday was part of his first heated. I'm not gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna talk about it.

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I'm sure he's sitting back there like I can see him in the court I can see him in the corner of my eye like a whole time you might should I get up and leave for She said Sad down am I supposed to be in here ever one of these or whatever you sit back down? Yeah sit there and take this uncomfortable shit No, but that was Andrew just so you know, that was a level five. It's gotten a level 10 before.

It's just so you know. Well, the truth is, I mean, that's the one thing that I've actually always loved about this team. That's why we've worked, I think, and it's we've made it. I think one of the number one things when I talked to somebody about this business now,

what we've seven, almost eight years or whatever we've been doing this together, is they go, there's four of you guys. I know how to get along. Yeah, how does that work? Like who decides what and this, you know, that's, but and that used to happen a lot. We have, that's been a long time since we actually

have had like a, yeah, back and forth and, but I love it. I mean, I really do and I love that nobody takes that stuff personal like it's not, it's never about, I'm mad at you, you're mad at me or anybody's mad at each other. It's like, dude, I want to win. Yeah, we're a team here.

We're a team and it's like, it's not about, like me, this or you, that, it's literally like, let's fuck and get better as a team. And well, it so reminds me of, you know what I'm dealing with the football team and everything. And just like trying, it's so hard to establish that culture because I just don't feel like a lot of kids grow up with that, with ability to sit through that

and have intense conversations without feeling like, oh, they're attacking me and I'm offended know, I'm offended or whatever it is, like, no, like sometimes you have to have hard discussions to realize, like, okay, there's maybe some shortcomings here, we gotta address, you know. And so for me, it's always a sign, at least, like if I was in another partnership besides this one, of how much the other people care

and the passion, like if you just curl up in a ball and get upset and like, Jesus, I don't want that, I want the pushback because then I know you care. Like if you're passionate about it and you're going back and forth with me, then it's like, fuck yeah. Like that's, I mean, it's a Mark Cuban and, you know, there's a lot of people that operate that way

and I think that we do and I really appreciate that. Well, the root is, you know and trust that everybody's goal is the same. Right. Although maybe there's different opinions on what's going to get there. Ultimately what matters most is the goal. Right. I think this is even the secret to like a successful marriage. If you look at old couples who've been together for a long time. It's what exactly I was thinking about when you just said that. Yeah. Like, you know, new couples often have to figure this out.

Then at some point when you've been together a long time, you trust that you both on the same page, and it's less personal. It's more like, yeah, mad and I disagree, but I trust that we're both on the same page. We all do that, so we can all fire at each other, but I know that, you know, Adam's just not being, it's not Adam just being mean,

or just in just being whatever. It's like, okay, we all have the same goal. I'm whatever a lot. Yeah. So whatever today. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

Speaking of whatever, dude, did you take your pure this morning? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Yesterday was the day before. When did you have your brain fright? I think you haven't had that a long time.

No, wait, no, it was two days ago. Because it was Wednesday. Yeah, in life. You know what, it's funny, I didn't say anything. I'm sharp today. I didn't say anything to you after you did it, but I actually had that like a week or two. I think I actually mentioned you guys that I was having like cloudiness. Yeah.

And I noticed the same thing too, so that's really interesting that happened to you right after. It could be a little bit of the sleep, it could be this and that, but I do it. I swear every time though, if I'm like intentional hydrating and then getting pure before I even do the podcast, I'm some sharper. And I've kind of brought that up, tongue in cheek, some bit of a commercial opportunity, but it's real. It's one of those things where I'm like, it became between me having coffee, obviously we all know how addicted I am, but that's one of those things that helps me at least stay sharper and my memory recalls better.

Yeah, you know what it reminds me of? I know the brain is not like a, really like a computer. It's obviously far more complex and different. But it reminds me of when you go to open a program and your computer and it just freezes for a second. So that's happened to me where I'm thinking of something. There's a lag. And then all of a sudden, it's like your brain's like,

all right, here comes the hourglass thing or the problem. You know what, the move is what Justin did, which is just to say it. Like if the past, I would freeze and just lock up, and then I remember I used to do a coughing attack, like that would get me out of it. I remember that.

I didn't know that's what you did. You remember when we were the one, well, you didn't know it. That's a good move. That's what it was, right? So, remember when we were, I should have thought of that. Remember when we were touring down here. Who's texting you right now? Oh, this, oh, right.

Oh, man. We were in LA. This is actually, this was when, Sal and I went down to LA by ourselves. Oh, yeah, that's right. I remember that. We were doing a little tour, right? A flight podcast and it was early days, and we were just doing a lot of them, and we got to a Luke story that was interviewing us.

I remember this. And yeah, if you've been around long enough, you could probably go back and have heard this, but I was like, yeah, mid thought, and I lost it, and then I'm, Yeah, you do. I gave me water and stuff, but it was really, I, mid thought, and I lost it. And then I'm, yeah, you do. Hey, they gave me water and stuff, but it was really, I fucking lost my train of thought.

After we've lost my train of thought, and there's no idea where I was going. You're brilliant, I'll tell you something. Can I just tell you where I'm going? I just get stuck there, like, oh God, get panic sets in. Can I just tell you how impressed I remember that specifically? Because I thought for sure,

because we went and got them water and everything, and they drank the water, and then we were all good. And then afterwards on my day on that sucks that you started coughing, it's like I didn't, it goes, I forgot what I was gonna say. And I remember going, oh shit bro, that's really smart. That was really, you know what I do? I just make up some shit.

I'll just, I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna talk about something about stuff. You're gonna take a lot. Where are you going? Yeah, but the move is actually really what you did, which is like, man, I just lost my train of thought and then one of us noted insert and come right away. Right, so.

You guys normally like, you know, take over and hammer me about it and it becomes this whole thing. But like, yeah, I was like, I've learned to just address the fact of what's going on like real time. In that way, it just doesn't make it as crazy awkward. Yeah. Because like, otherwise you just, uh, that't make it as crazy awkward. Yeah, because like otherwise you just,

uh, that's the worst. Crazy awkward. I have a crazy awkward conversation for you guys, or this topic to talk about. So I'm curious to see this to me. This is in our backyard here, Las Gatos. I don't know if anybody's list saw the news yesterday. No.

This mom is 47, or not a mom, 47 year old lady, uh, Lasascados lady. And she now lives in Idaho, but they're coming after her right now, because she was using Snapchat to lure teenage kids to her place, like 14 to 17 years old, and encouraging them to get drunk,

and drink, and have sex. I saw this, it was in Lascados. Yes, it was in Lascados. Like she was just putting them together and watching that. So it started with her just like, you know, talking and I actually didn't see what she looked like. I'm assuming she was probably an attractive lady

and she was like flirting with them, getting them enticing them to come to the house, letting them know that they can drink under age and stuff like that and then bringing them condoms and stuff and encouraging them to have sex. It was worse than that. There was a part where there was a girl and she was like, really drunk.

And she had, and she got a team multiple, multiple, guys. She had an understudy of just Lane Maxwell. What's happening? It's worse than what it sounds like. She, there was a couple instances where there was a girl that was really drunk. That's right.

And she'd bring teenage boys into the room and the girls like, why are you doing this? And then she'd go, she's fucked up because everyone's under age. It's not like she'd do that with like 18, 19 year olds. No, this is a 14 to 16. This is an evil person. That's the dude.

Evil are just weird and twisted. Like just getting up. That's her right there. Oh, I didn't see her yet. Can I tell you something right now? She looks like a person that would do that. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

I just look at her face right now. Look at it, she doesn't even dye her roots, dude. Come on, let's help with that. She's definitely suspec. She's bright, Mickey? What do you think? You know what I'm saying? If you keep your hair like that, you're suspect this fuck, right? Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I don't know the picture of the house. I don't know if you can see her house, though, but it looks like she had like a mansion. So it looks like she had this bad. Oh, is that her house? Yeah. It looks like. Oh, that's not the way she's in prison. So I don't

think they give her root, you know, probably she's she's in the way she's in prison. So I don't think they give her root to you know Pro she's she's in well look at her It's all just haphazard. This is I mean you're all looking at one day go pictures Doug this just happened. She's already had those bad roots Doug. Okay. Yeah, no, so That's disgusting. She's evil and you know, it's weird. I feel like more and more picture I saw yeah, well lost cattle since that's lost got us high school dude. Oh I feel like more and more. That's the picture I saw. Yeah, well, Los Gatos, that's Los Gatos high school, dude.

Oh, I've never been there. Yeah, I worked, my studio was in Los Gatos, so I worked there for about 16 years. Isn't that crazy, though? So it seems like more and more these predators are women. I never remember reading about women being predators, but I read about this teacher who had this teenage student of hers. She performed phalacio on them.

I read another one that was sleeping with the student, and it's more and more, it's women that are doing this at these ages. Yeah, and maybe that's not new. Maybe just now it's easier to catch somebody. Now that was reported. Yeah, it's gonna say, I probably not reported if you're a 15 year old boy and your

hot older teacher is trying to get you to do things like I mean let's be honest you're ain't gonna keep it to yourself so of course and that's probably so right I would think that this has always happened but because the way social media is and the way kids can gossip virtually now I think that that's stuff like this probably surfaces pretty quick and I don't even remember what I don't know if you read on the article or not or you did because you read it sounds like how she got caught I don't even know I don't know she was doing some other dumb shit to she was letting her kid to these kids drive her car at school Oh, yeah, and one of the kids was driving the car two kids were hanging on the back one of them fell and got knocked out like what's yeah Dude like she was just doing this is lady. Yeah. She's crazy. Yeah, it sounds like she's just a little,

a little twisted. Was she married or what was a husband? No, I don't think she was married, but I just saw that. Not while. Yeah, it was super wild. Dude, I would beat the lady if this was my kid that went over there. I'm sorry to say that, but holy cow, man,

you're an adult. Anyway, it's making me angry. Yeah. I got a funny article we'll bring up. I'm gonna change the energy a little bit. They did a study that show Justin, you're gonna love this. Oh, sweet. I got a funny article will bring up how much a energy a little bit They do to study that show Justin you're gonna love this Oh, I got something that Justin will love to really yeah November 9th Evan essence coming to San Jose

Every day I'm there or I was gonna say already front road ticket Evan essence is good bro. I'm with you on that. I know I mean Just I know you'll get caught rolling your window down, singing it out loud. I love it when I get in his car sometimes, you know, the radio turns on automatically, whatever.

And you know, the funny part about that with Justin is it's one extreme or the other. It's either death metal like where it's like blue, no, We'll see Rocky from living sacrifices or guitarists. I feel like somewhat vindicated. Evan Essence is good. Yeah. I like them. I agree too.

So I got another one for you. So this is a study that was done on class clowns. Okay. Okay. According to science, we're you now, were you guys admitted, are you guys class clowns? Were you in school?

I was probably one of the class clowns. Yeah, I was. You too? Yeah. Justin for sure, right? Yeah, I mean, I got some like a single principle. Yes, yeah.

Same here, I would get kicked out all the time because I was, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was, make a joke, or, I mean, okay, I'll tell you the worst one I ever did. All right. So this is one of the worst ones I ever did. It sounds silly, but it was bad because I'm sure the teacher's feelings.

So I had a journalism class and the teacher was a hater. She was such a whatever. She was just a mean person and wasn't paying attention. Would show up late to class all the time. Big lady, right? Anyway, she showed up 10 minutes late or 15 minutes to class like she would often do, which was annoying. And she would come in super flustered Again big lady so she came in and just would burst the door open because she was like she burst the door open

She's wearing this big red shirt. Oh, yeah. Oh wow I got to the principal I got a Not for that. That's me dude. That's bad. I got a the class Yeah, she like she didn't get it at first and then she got it The last time I got sent to the principal's office that I remember was in our chemistry class and You know and in in chemistry you guys remember there was always like videos at least for us like once a week There was like a video that we'd watch and I I, this was like the era of universal remotes starting to happen.

So I had bought a universal remote and I'd be in the back of the classroom and I would change the channel. So he would put it on and then he'd go sit down and then I would change the channel a little quick and then he'd go back up and do it. It was about five times of doing that before he realized somebody was out there

and changed the channel, I got a cog busted for that. So many of them I can't talk about. You know, I'll tell it to you guys later. But I can't make the podcast. Yeah, but one of them was like, and into now and in today's climate and everything, like, especially like, oh my God, I had one of them. I was just so bored and we were sitting in class. We had to read like, it wasn't Hamlet.

It was Romeo and Juliet. And so like, she was just, so the laziest teacher ever, right? Like just makes, okay, now you play the part of, you know, Mercutio, you play the part Romeo, but it's, I'm like, so bored. I'm like, you know, I'll take one of the parts and so I'm like Mercutio, and I decided to just, you know, give a bit of a Lispy accent, if you will, right? Yeah, so it was very obviously like I was like portraying a certain, you know, orientation.

And so it's just good. And you know, classes, the Dine laugh and whatever she yelled at me so loud and like threw me out of the class and it was, it was all. I got kicked out once because I was also a smart ass, so I would not be paying attention or talking to someone and teachers would try to catch, you're not teachers trying to catch you. I didn't answer it.

Yeah, they'll ask a question. So what's the answer to, you know, number 45, Sal, you know, catch me off guard thinking that I wouldn't know. Well, I always knew. So I was talking with some girl, teachers like, well, Sal, so what do you think about blah, blah, blah, thinking I wouldn't know? So I stand up and I give a great answer and she looks at me like, oh,

and I said, you can't mess with me son. Kick that. So, so according to scientists, that class clown from seventh grade may have been the brightest kid in the room. It turns out that humorability and overall intelligence are tightly linked in middle school-aged children, according to research, published in the International Journal of Humor Research. So the quote is, we were particularly interested in the quality of humor made by children, but evaluated by adults. Parents and teachers should be aware that if they're children or students frequently make good quality humor,

it is highly likely that they have extraordinary intelligence. So I have a theory on that, right? If you're in class and you are the class clown, it's not like you have this opportunity to write jokes and like you get the floor to say something, you have to be quick and witty. So you have to piggyback off something the teacher said and then you throw something out there or that another kid said and you so I think it just highlights the quick witness of a kid at that age to be

able to do that. And that part of the brain if you're developing that early already how much that that favors you as you get older. Yeah I think part of it too is like the kids like not getting stimulated enough too. And it's creating their own opportunities to kind of like you know entertain themselves. Yeah in a sense, because that's what happened a lot of times. I'm just like, dude, I'm so bored. So bored. I have to do something here.

I have to draw, you know, fallacies in the sky. Wow. Yeah, I don't know why you're doing that. I was painful for me. High school was so painful, so frickin' boring. And so you do that. But you know what, along those lines, comedians, some of the best comedians in the world,

if you really break down what they're doing and what they're saying and how they're delivering, what they're delivering, they're highly, it's a very specialized form of intelligence. And I'll tell you what, especially, here's your evidence right here, especially in men, if you ask 100 women what qualities they find most incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, incite, if you ask 100 women, what qualities they find most humorous, desirable or attractive in men.

Humeur's number one. Sensor, humor is always, almost always at the top or top three. And so that goes to show you how valuable it is. And then you think, well, why is it so valuable? We're social creatures. And humor breaks tension. It brings bonds people together. It's also a very effective way of communicating

difficult subjects, which is one thing that can be like Dave Chappelle. He and oh, he's under fire by people right now, but the guy is so intelligent with delivering highly sensitive information, doesn't in such a very smart way that, I mean, it requires a really high level of intelligence. Yeah, it just takes a different perspective

and it makes you think. It makes you like address something from a different angle, which I appreciate. Oh, I think women are just smart too. They know that the first 30 years, even if you're sexy and got the body and you lay it down in the bedroom, like that's the first 30 years.

I still got to live with you the next 30 to 40. You better be funny. Yeah, you're good. Because when that all shit goes, and then we're like, we're gonna be sitting on a rocking chair for the next 30 to 40. You better be funny. Yeah, you're gonna get it. Because when that all shit goes and never like that, we're gonna be sitting on a rocking chair for the next 30 years. Like, I hope you could have a conversation

and entertain me. Otherwise, this is gonna suck. I'm gonna be pointing his phone. Yeah, I'm gonna be pointing his phone. Yeah, let's say. Thank you, man, dude. Oh, yesterday I was gonna tell you guys, so I ventured out and I was able to see,

dude. Oh, how was it? It looks good. Can I just say right now, this is gonna be like, probably my new favorite movie for the last like 10 years. Hold on, I gotta ask a question. Yeah.

Did you need to have watched Dune before? Red the book, or can it complete? No, you could meet somebody just totally oblivious in the whole Dune world. So it's the story of me told basically. Yeah, and it's not like, they did the first one where they smashed like three bucks in one

and tried to like tell this like really long elaborate story and a condensed amount of time. They took their time with the pacing was really good. It was like phenomenal graphics like, so you have to see it in 3D. We saw it in 3D and there's just like depth of scope. So you see like really far and you see like they have these really cool Helicop I don't want to ruin it, but like they have these

The technology in it is something I've never seen before really with They're almost like dragonfly helicopters dude. It's so sick. That's almost say and then um just the overall story the way that it was all played out, like it was believable, actors were really good. I have none but good things to say. Is this an edible movie or is this a movie? Yeah, dude. Oh, it is.

It's a movie. The way he's explaining it, I'm like 3D, he's really good. Is there a non-edible movie? How about that? I don't know if that's it. Yeah. That's an even better one. You have to really think, like clearly about that.

So you've been going to the theater. I haven't been to the theater in years. New York. Yeah, you know, and I try to support it. I know it's like, some people are scared to do that, but I just wanted to exist still, because it's such a different experience, especially for something like that,

that's such an epic scale, like that you need to be able to sit on a big-ass screen and watch it and have that. Now, do you have to wear a mask during the whole movie? No, oh, you don't. No. Or are you supposed to do it? Or are you supposed to?

I don't know. I think that's better. It's better. I mean, does everybody come in wearing a mask or what do you see right now? I mean, some do, because in Santa Cruz, that's been lifted. So the businesses get to choose whether or not

they like enforce that. Oh, yeah. So yeah, Santa Cruz actually, like, I'll give them, you know, some probably, they crack down again for a while, but now that it's open again in terms of that. So because they've done a pretty good job of keeping the numbers well.

Well, speaking of things that are fun with edibles gaming, right? It's exciting to see Felix Gray going after the gaming market. Have you seen that they're now putting their blue blockers? It makes so much sense. Game stop? Yeah. Now, my best buy target, they're starting to get out today. Okay, so this is something that I try to enforce with my son when he plays video games because you're on there on the screen for hours that's not going

to be good for your eyes especially if it's right before bed yeah and I I would even I'm going to make a bet here or I'm going to make a prediction that they're going to tie this to better performance in video games sure so in other words because high and high coordination but if you I start to fatigue because of the blue light, that'll start to decrease your performance. If they start to sign on these high level players and gamers, watch it be used as a way to improve endurance and perform. Well, you know what would be fun and actually it would be great for Felix to get this from us. If you could convince your son to actually almost do like a You know a week where he's like, oh, he let him go. You know, let him do like, you know, four hour days of like I know I think he would love this to do this. You'd be like, listen, I need you to do this son

I want you to play video games all day. Yeah, and dad no problem. Yeah, I have him do that for like a week No glasses and then actually do that and then have him report back the things that he noticed I swear to god that kid if I let him, if I let him do it, it would be Belle the Bell. It would be, you know, 9 a.m. to frickin midnight. I know. I have no idea how I'm gonna handle that. Like I know you guys are already in that world, so you guys are, have you kind of set your boundaries.

And I'm so torn on that because I didn't get regulated, but I also like to go outside as much as I like to play a video game. And it wasn't as fully immersive as it is now, right? Well, okay, so I'll tell you what I'm experiencing. So, and I saw this firsthand with some clients, some mine first. So I had some clients, very close,

I was very close with them and their son and very good people, they were, they homeschooled their kid, they were big in that whole movement or whatever, and part of their philosophy was this unschooling thing where the kid drives the curriculum, and if they're into something, you try to encourage them to learn through it,

and so their son was super individual games, and he would just, he would just mash out on them and just be on them all the time. And I remember they were kind of like, oh man, I don't know, like what are we going to do about this? And should we allow them to continue? And I remember personally thinking like, no, you got to get them off like this way too much. Well, what ended up happening is the kid turned 16, 17 and naturally started to want to hang out with friends. Anyway, today the kid is an adult. He's got his own podcast, he's a personal trainer,

he's a self-starter, turned out very well. I'm noticing when my son, too, now, now that he's like 16, he's making plans and wanting to meet up with his girlfriend and wanting to hang out with people in person. So I'm not as worried as I was when he was like 13 or 14 when I'm like, oh my god, is he gonna be stuck in my basement until he's, you know, whatever,

playing video games all the way along? So I think it's less of a, it's definitely less of a fear now for me than it was. Yeah, I would imagine we're justins at with his boys versus where you're at. You, you, even though your son probably does it more, you probably could relax a little bit about it because now he's really gonna get him.

Yeah, he's making plans all the time for people. And he's doing that himself. Yeah, I think, well, it's just kind of funny because I've noticed, like, my son's sales ability has gone up tremendously. What? Because I put so many restrictions on that, you know,

like, so he's coming up with new ways to like pitch it to me. You know, like, people that are on, like, his girlfriend, you know, wants to talk, or like, he's like, Dad, I'm learning code. Oh, you're learning code. And so let me talk or like, he's like, dad, I'm learning code. Oh, you're learning code. And so let me see it. Like, it's a, basically, he just like copy paste stuff and row blocks and like, you know, I'm like, you're not

learned. I'm like, okay, write me some code right now by hand. And he's just like, he just comes out there. He's like, what does this do? He's like, you know, like, he's like, dad, I have to ask you question. I want to work to ask you a question. I want to work on my spatial abstract abilities. Do you have any idea how I could do that? Yeah, yeah.

I try to think of a way. Well, the worst part is I don't know code, right? So, I don't, like, he can be right. And I'm like, totally like, yeah, whatever. Like, give it a talk about him. I don't know. Yeah, but that's, I would think as a parent, that's one of the hard parts for you guys to say,

no, too, because talk about a valuable skill for a parent that's one of the hard parts for you guys to say no to because talk about a valuable skill for a kid you know coming up right now and in the world that we live in now you so It's like and if that's developing that while he's also getting while he's also having fun with his friends It's like ah man. How do I it's you know it always changes when I was a kid my dad had issues with me I just watched a lot of TV and then I would read the Encyclopedia. You guys know this, I know it's whatever. Weird combo. Yeah, I know.

But I would do this and he would get upset because he's like, why aren't you going outside? The kids would come knock on the door from the neighbors, which I don't wanna hang out with them because they were done, but whatever. They'd knock on the door and I'd tell my mom, tell him I'm not here because I was reading, the letter Q in the encyclopedia.

And so my dad used to be like a little bit like, what's going on? Sounds a bit Q in a high-rate. Anyway. Oh yeah, that's the, he was before it was even popular. I started it. He started, he started,

he used to be a guy behind the whole thing. Hey, little did he know all these skills were coming, coming handy when he started a podcast. Years later, you know what I'm saying? That's where all your snapple facts come from. Well, I know we played like crazy too. Like there was times where I'd have friends over and we would, we would like,

we would literally only come out of the room to like go to the bathroom or, you know, get pizza. And I mean, I remember there'd mean like, sodas all along the window seals are then by the end of the weekend, we'd probably drink like two 24 packs between me and my two friends I mean, we definitely were not doing stuff ideal for you. Well, yeah, 12 to 13 You're just trying to see how long he'll late you stay. Yes. Yeah, that was like half the goal

I was like, oh, I can do it. Dude speaking of soda. Did you hear about the guy who died? Because he drank one and a half liters of Coca-Cola Within an hour and he died from it. Did you hear about this? What? No. Okay. So I read the title of the article,

and I thought, how would he die from drinking? Right. Just one and a half liters of coke, I'm gonna have a decent amount, and I thought, how would you die from that? So I thought, did he drown his cells from too much fluid? Cause you could do that with water, right? If you drink too much water.

I'm in a full two liter. Yeah, it's not even that. And I'm like, When they sell those at AMPM, now, that's like a single certain, it's like a double two liter. Yeah, it's not even that. And I'm like, when they sell those at AMPM now, that's like a single certain, it's like a double gulp. You were somewhere. You were somewhere.

So he had, he drank a bunch of it and somehow, because obviously Coke produces gas, right? So you burp or whatever. Yeah. It got, the gas got blocked. It got trapped in his, I think it's small intestines.

And it wasn't releasing. He had lots of pain, couldn't figure out the hell's going on. Went to the hospital because he started getting really like, something's wrong with me. Because of the gas trapped in his small intestines, it was blocking oxygen from getting to his liver. When he finally got to the hospital, the doctors are trying to figure out those going on. Then they realized, oh, it's this gas that's trapped.

They tried to release the gas, but by that point, it was too late and you went to liver failure and died. Whoa. Yes, dude, this is a true story. Holy shit. I just read this over the last night. Wow. I didn't know that.

You freaking die from gas. Yeah, I didn't know that could happen. I mean, I'm like, we're for Justin. Oh, I push it out, dude. I got my problem soon, but I'm dead. Just as I've died, I'm going to tell you soon. Everyone around me. Dude, I got my problem too. I'm dead. Just as I've done in the time suit. Everyone around the room. Yeah, that's bad.

But you're out the nin is my motto. I read some of the other day about Kellogg's, you know, like a $5 million class action lawsuit over like one of their like strawberry apple flavors, not tasting enough like strawberry apple and having too much of a pear ingredient. How crazy is that? Wait a minute, hold on a second. So they got sued for the late enough dog to get, so I can get my fruit right.

So basically, I've been looking at how it might be. Basically it was like one of those like, like strudal things or whatever that Kellogg's makes, you know, and then it had a flavor, like strawberry or what, I don't remember the actual flavor, but it was like a combo, strawberry apple or some bullshit. Hopefully Doug will find it by the time I'm done.

And the actual flavoring didn't have enough of the fruit that it's advertised as and had the taste of another fruit. Now you know, class action lawsuit basically as a lawyer, these freaking leeches that go through. Like what can we do with lawsuit on to make the strawberry popters that don't have enough berries. That's what's... Oh, a pop tart.

What the hell? They're expecting berries in a pop tart? You know, the problem is people are just stupid. You're eating a pop tart. What do you think it's gonna be in there? It's paste, it's sugar paste. I'm gonna sue pop tarts because there's a pop when I eat it with coloring.

That's ridiculous. That's a real thing. You can even do that. Bro, you know how much money I've missed out on all the shitty protein drinks I've drink? I say they supposed to taste like strawberry or banana. It tastes like crap. Oh yeah. This doesn't have strawberry.

Dude, I just don't get that mentality. And I think Courtney was telling me to sue over anything. Dude, there's somebody like with my brother-in-law, I was dealing with this too. Like, there's a place like in Idaho where like one of his neighbors like has like a little drone that keeps flying over their backyard and he will find anything that sort of breaks. No. Yeah, the HOA stuff and bring it up and then sue

over the most minuscule things. And I'm just like, dude, can you imagine having that asshole in your neighborhood? And then if you retaliate, you know, you go right to the courtroom. That's when you get a pet hawk. Katrina was just on, you know, that next door, Apple, what are you like that?

And it's Halloween right now. And like, there's somebody on there that's like complaining because somebody has a skeleton that's hanging by a rope and saying that that's offensive. And so they were making a big stink about it right now to get them to take it down because of that. This is their first time. Should be an alien.

Should be an alien. You know, what's in those hell? They're getting silly. It's like we, it's almost like they're, it's almost like you people just sit around and look for things to be a thing. That's exactly what's happening. You know what it is, I think sometimes,

I think that we're meant to be challenged. And when life is easy, we have to find shit. We have to find things to be upset with. You know what I'm saying? That other one, the teacher who got fired for doing like an Indian chant, you know, she was like reading a book, they were like a history class or something.

And she was like doing like that, and like doing that with the kids, like telling a story and fired. And that was gone. Wow. But that's even more so than what you were talking about with the skeleton thing, that's Halloween. Yeah, but all of it, it's just like, wow, dude,

like lose your job. I had a client that used to own all these buildings and restaurants would rent from them and stuff like that. And I remember one day he came in and he was so angry because there was this lawyer who goes in to his restaurants into these buildings with a tape measure and goes in there and measures the faucet from the ground,

toilet paper roll. And if it's off by an inch or a half inch, reports it. He says, no, this is literally did. Four of your bathrooms were not ADA compliant because they were a quarter inch off here. He says, no, this is literally did. Four of your bathrooms were not ADA compliant because they were a quarter inch off here. Oh, he starts money from them. And he goes, I'm gonna take you to court

or you can promise to fix it and pay me to settle. And he's like, if I fight this, it's gonna cost me, I don't know, $100,000, or I can pay this piece of shit 20 grand and he has to. What a piece of it. That is really. You gotta wonder how many lawyers do that. A lot of those get away with that. A lot of sc like lawyers do that. A lot of those get away with that.

They can get away with that. A lot of those get away with that. They can get away with that. A lot of those get away with that. A lot of those get away with that. That's why lawyers are so loved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're all lizard people.

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All right, here comes the rest of the show. First question is from Tabish K, how do you know when you've reached your genetic potential and what is the age that most people reach it? Oh, have you read anything on that? The golden question. Yeah. Like the age that most people would reach it

or a years of training consistently that you would reach it. Yeah, I mean, if you look at like top, it depends on the sport and it depends on, obviously what you're looking for. If you're looking at like body muscular development, you're probably for men somewhere in their mid, early to mid 30s of long training.

So probably early 30s. Some sports people reach their peak in their 20s. Like, you know, if you're looking at a combat sport, you don't see too many high level combat artists that are, you know, or athletes that are, you know, over the age of 34, it starts to kind of decline. But you know what's funny about this question is your genetic potential changes based off of your circumstances in the context of your life, right? So what is your genetic potential when you're lacking sleep? What is your genetic potential? When you're programming off? What is your genetic potential and absolutely everything's perfect? And that's what people

want to think of. They think of genetic potential as being, what's the absolute furthest I could take my body when everything is perfect. Now we've been working out for a long time. Let me ask you guys a question. When in your life has every aspect of your life been perfect for developing your physique? That's why this question is one of those things. Yeah, well, I mean, the closest I ever was there was that three-year run of competing. If I could say, like, I was really checking most all the boxes, but even then, you could definitely go in there and pick apart things that I could have optimized or done better to continue. So, yeah, I don't think it's funny because I know a lot of people probably have reached

close to their genetic potential because you've been training for 10, 15 years consistently without really having too much off. And so you've probably reached kind of the peak of how much total lean body mass maybe if we're just talking purely muscle, but as far as optimizing your overall health, performance, longevity, muscle, body fenders, I mean, there's always so much room to continue to improve everywhere.

It's a hard thing to pin point, because for me, it was always like, what I was doing was then transferring out to a sports performance. And so, like, and I was only playing sports transferring out to sports performance. I was only playing sports up till college and then that was it. I didn't really have a good gauge of when that declined. Although my last year I did feel a bit of a decline, but that was mainly due to circumstances

and me and my consistency leading up into the season with that, but like in terms of like the weight room, I've had, it's been all over the place, like I've felt like the last, you know, five years have been some of my best years of lifting. Now, when we get a question like this, what do you guys think spurs this? Like, why do you think this person is at, I mean, we're totally speculating.

I know me, when I used to really wonder this, is I wanted to know what I could accomplish. Like what's my limit? How far can I take my power? Oh, see, now I think, I remember thinking this, and I think that when you hit a really hard plateau, people start asking because they're wondering, like, oh, maybe this is it for me.

Sure, right. I've already added so much muscle, I've been training for five plus years or whatever. I'm curious to know, maybe I'm reaching my genetic potential right now. This is a trap. Personally speaking, my PRs and my lifts happened in my early to mid-30s, I would say. It's when I hit some of my heaviest lifts. But let me tell you why this is a trap. If you're always training for the end result, you're going to be disappointed at some point, because at some point you get older, at some point,

you can't possibly get stronger, otherwise we'd have 70-year-olds, you know, deadlifting 5,000 pounds or whatever. At some point, things are going to decline. How do you stay consistent? Yeah. The way you stay consistent is you enjoy the process. You have to enjoy the workout for the workout itself.

Otherwise, you're screwed because you're gonna get stuck in a situation where you're like, oh my God, my body now is going backwards because I'm fizzing. I'm thinking of it like this. It's like a professional athlete asking, when am I gonna max out at getting better? Like at some point, if you're a pro,

you're probably towards the top, but you don't ever stop practicing and trying to get better and improving every aspect. And there's different metrics there though too. Like say it's not the physicality, but like your game's small. It's like, put you ahead of everybody else because of the time that in the reps you've put in.

And so I just think that it's all based off of what you're sort of determining this, because for me it would be like, if I read this question and it would probably be like my 20s, because I didn't think about anything. And then all of a sudden, I was at my peak and then everything I did built muscle and then it just sort of like tapered.

I had to then really pay attention to what I was doing. And if you look at studies, I mean, actually I read this the other day, it's interesting. I read, it was an article, maybe I saved it, but anyway, it talked about the peak age for different abilities, like the best age for learning new languages, I think with seven or something like that, right? The peak age for earning potential for men, 48.

So 48 generally, I know that's cool for you. The peak age for years. Now that makes sense. You're fucked, Doug, though, right? If you're gonna be able to pay you anymore, just get you more money. You're all tied up by everybody. Yeah, even if we do better, you're tapped.

I think the peak age for like winning a Nobel Peace Prize was like 60 something or whatever. Anyway, it's all very interesting, but there's a lot of factors that go into it. You said something very interesting, right? Who's that the quarterback that's like in his 40s, Tom Brady? And he was just crushing, right?

And how old was he? He still is. He still is crushing. Yeah, he's in his 40s. Right. Now, is it because physically, he's probably, is he more, is he faster than he was when he was in his like point? No, definitely. He's more efficient.

And he's smarter. He's wiser, I should say. No, it's a great analogy because I definitely know that I've probably seen the most muscle and I may never even ever get to that point again in my life. But even today, the things that would I improve on is I less effort and I can achieve similar or better things than I was able to achieve

when I was 20 something. So even if I can say that I've seen the most muscle mass or reached the genetic potential of how much muscle my body can carry, I've gotten smarter and wiser about how I get there and it's taken less effort to maintain a physique that I was hammering myself for in my 20s trying to reach. So there's other parts that you continue to get better at, even if you've reached your maximum. You know how to quickly adjust on the fly, you know, to stay ahead of these plateaus or aches and pains, like there's just, there's a lot more playbooks that you've acquired,

you know, navigate through all that stuff. Yeah, well, here's a good example. The, a man's generally speaking, a man's testosterone, right, the anabolic hormone testosterone peaks at about 18. It's rare to find an 18 year old that will build more muscle than a 29 year old, right? If they both same training, experience, and all that stuff, 29 year old typically will build more muscle than 18 year old. So there's a lot more that goes into this than just hormone levels

and physical, whatever, there's your wisdom and your application. But again, this is a trap because at some point, father time is gonna slap you in the face. And if you're so focused and obsessed with the end result, you will be in a whole world of pain. You will eventually find yourself stopping because you're gonna feel like what's the use? I can't be getting faster, I can't get any buster,

I can't look any better, no matter what I do, my body ages. You have to at some point just love the process for the process itself. Otherwise, you're gonna be totally screwed. Agreed. Next question is from Christa Marie C. Can you over consume protein? Yeah, of course you do.

Okay, so from a fat gain perspective, too many calories, regardless of where they come from, proteins, fats, or carbs, we'll get stored as body fat. Now, protein is so satiating, in other words, it fills you up. It's less likely to overeat protein than it is to overeat carbohydrates and fats, and especially the combination of carbohydrates and fats, which especially the combination of carbohydrates and fats, which typically if you throw salt on top, that's like the magic trio. So, but that being said, yeah,

you can eat too much protein, and forget the fat gain, for some people eating too much protein leads to constipation and digestive issues as well, in which case, and that's more individualized, right? That can determine whether or not you're eating too much for yourself. Now is that tied into like a build up of uric acid and gout, or know like rich foods and alcohol and stuff too,

you know, those are big contriples? Yeah, that's an individual thing too, but yes, if you have issues with gout or not, you're getting rid of uric acid, then yeah, your protein limit is gonna be lower than someone who doesn't have those issues. Yeah, I never really, I never had any problems with anybody who was eating whole foods and wasn't in the like the body building space in this case. Yeah. Unless you had a special condition like that.

So I've dealt with Gout and I've had clients that have issues with just digestion period and so then everything is kind of an exception to the rule. But for the majority, most people under consumed protein, and if they were eating whole foods, it was a problem. The times where I saw it was when you, with competitors, because competitors look at protein as well. And they throw shakes on top of it. Oh, yeah. So, you know, they're having three shakes and two bars on top of, you know, two pounds of beef in the day, every day, and they're trying to get, you know, 300, 400 grams

of protein thinking it's like this magical macronutrient, and then you see their digestion get fucked up from that, and you see them issues within their stools all fucked up. So that's the only time I really dealt with it. Most people don't get enough protein intake, so the messaging tends to be more and more and more, but yeah, of course there's a threshold, and there's a too much for somebody.

I will say this though, it's harder to over consume protein. Way hard. I mean, think of it this way. I could easily sit down and eat a hundred grams of carbs, and I wouldn't even blink, right? A hundred grams of fat, I could do that too. Yeah, easy. A hundred grams of protein, put 100 grams of lean

whole food protein in. Like how much chicken breast would that be, Adam? Yeah, that's like six, 12, you're over a pound. You're pounding almost a pound and a half of chicken. Just pure chicken breast. Try eating that at a distance. That's a sure. Good luck.

That's one of the reasons why people lose weight on carnivore diets. It just crushes your appetite. Yeah, it's not really hard to just consume that many calories from only that. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about over, for the most part I don't worry about over consuming protein. Now I know there's people that will say, too much protein can elevate m-tore, and that

can lead to cancer, and this and that. Context matters a lot. In a pro-cancer environment, carbohydrates, sugars, and proteins can feed cancer, just because cancer is cells. In a healthy context, you're fine. M-tore is not bad unless you have cancer that's active, in which case, yes, you do want to depress M-Tore, but if you don't have cancer,

you can elevate M-Tore, you'll just build more muscle and have better performance. So I wouldn't worry too much about that, and definitely not too much about over-consuming protein. It's, that's, I mean, in my, for as long as I've worked with people, I don't know, I'm trying to think, have I ever had anybody, except for people who threw shakes on top of everything.

Yeah, only the bodybuilding. Yeah, shit. Only the people that were like, either competing themselves or into that space where they're following the people that are giving advice there that are telling like, you need to get two times your body weight in protein, you know, so if you're getting that messaging and you're trying to do that or you're in that space,

that was the only time where I'd look at someone's diet and be like, what the fuck are you doing? You're already getting 150 grams through whole foods. Why are you drinking three shakes and two bars a day? Like, well, because I heard that, if I get two times that, I'll max potential ability and muscle, it's like, no, you're fine, bro. You can cut out all that.

Next question is from Kony Chua. Is it normal to progress on some lifts but regress on others at the same time? If not, what could be the problem? Of course. You can, but it's not as common. Usually to regress while progressing. Yeah.

I would say it's more common to progress on one and not regress on another one. But it's less common for my like, oh my god, I'm so much stronger on my overhead press and then I go squat and my squat won't weigh down. Cause usually if you're stronger, that means that overall there's a good environment. Doesn't mean you're gonna get stronger on everything.

Oh, I can give you an exam. Well, okay, so progress and regress less likely, progress and stay the same. Very common. Very, very common. But even could potentially regress to be able to do it. And an example that I see all the time is,

let's say this is a new lift for you. Maybe you've never really deadlifted consistently, and so you start doing it. What's great about that is the gains and the progress. It's like, because you're learning the movement. So there's this amazing learning curve of just constantly seeing yourself level up, level up, level up, level up.

And you could be seeing that while also diet not being ideal, sleep not being ideal, and you may not be doing on the lifts that you've been doing forever. So maybe you've been bench pressing forever, right? But you've never deadlifted consistently in your life till you start listening to Mindbulpre. Like these guys always talk about deadlifting, I'm gonna start doing it. So you start doing it and you're like,

man, I'm getting good and good at deadlifting, but man, my bench is either staying the same or I even had a bad week and got worse. Well, when you, and this is where the context matters is if you are learning a new movement, sometimes you will see even progress in that lift, even when all other things are shitty. Like your diet's kinda off, your sleep isn't well,

it's because the deadlift is so new and you're improving on the movement every single time, but then it's starting to affect the other things that you've already gotten pretty good at and so you regress in that area. So in a situation like that, that makes sense. You would be surprised. Yeah, the reason why I would say it's not as common

except for that's a really good example that you gave Adam is because when you're regressing on the lifts, let's say you're over trained or you're over doing a lift or you're lacking sleep, typically it's a systemic thing. You'll notice it all over. I'm just weaker overall. Now you could definitely over train a movement, cause some problems and other movements not so much and still improve, but that's more rare.

So I would say in this particular case, it's probably either what Adam's saying or the lift that you're regressing in, you may need to look at your programming. Like, okay, here's a good example. Deadlifts and squats, right? If you're, you could, your deadlifts could go up, but maybe the way you're programming your workouts is that your deadlifts are now affecting your squat, because I did lift the day before. Yeah. I squat.

So my deadlift went up 50 pounds, then you go to squat and your posterior chain is fried and your squat goes down. Well, I mean, and I've definitely noticed this in terms of like the time length and between of when I haven't been practicing one of the major lifts. So there was a period where I didn't bench for a substantial amount of time because I was like so focused on getting better at pull ups, getting better at pulling movements.

And then going back, I definitely went down substantially in terms of performing my bench press. But it was just because I wasn't stimulating that muscle group I used to. it, but it was just, it was a time-length thing and it really came back pretty quickly, but it was to see that sort of take on, you know, progression with my ability to pull up was substantial and then I definitely fell off on bench.

This question actually highlights a really cool strategy that I used to do, because we talked about this, right? When you're in a colorked-evset and you're trying to do like a cut, like a really hard cut, like one of the hardest parts is the mental hurdle, right? Because you get weaker in everything. So one of the strategies I used to do on cuts since I was doing it so frequently,

is I would actually pick up a new exercise that I wasn't doing. I hadn't done it in a really long time. Like just an example of one that comes to mind right away and was during when we were competing, it was during when we were writing programs. And the circus press was just not like a common exercise that I had done in the past.

And I'm in a major cut and I'm getting weaker on everything because I'm cutting drastically consistently for weeks for a show. And so I'm watching my bench go down. I'm watching my deadlift go down. But then also, and I introduce the circus press consistently into my routine, and I'm actually getting stronger every week. And so it actually would be, and I would actually try

and focus on that and not let the other things talk with me because I know that I'd already kind of max that out and I'm watching that. So I like this question for that reason because this could happen. And I always think that a lot of what we do with, you know, training to get in really good shape. A lot of it's this mental warfare

that you're constantly playing all the time. And a strategy that helped me was, when I know that I'm in a caloric deficit and I know I'm cutting consistently and I know I'm gonna get weaker, it's inevitable, is actually reintroducing movements that I don't do frequently into my routine, so I have like a win.

So I can be like, oh cool, let's keep going. This used to happen to me when I cut and I'd be cutting and then I'm like, wow, I could do more pull ups than I realized because I'm lighter. That gets your 20 pounds lighter. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

There's also that, yeah. Next question is from lore Pat. What is your take on certain vegetables being toxic? Toxic? Is it BS or would we be better off not eating certain types? It has been going around that vegetables have natural defense mechanisms to protect themselves, but because of that, they can be harmful. All right, Paul talks about natural insecticides.

So there's some truth to this, but it's also been exaggerated. So I'm gonna give you an analogy or another example that is gonna sound ridiculous, but it isn't. Would you eat a cow while it's alive? So let's say a cow is alive and you're just starting to eat its leg. Would that be safe? No, it'd be very dangerous

because a cow's defense mechanisms are to kick you and bite you and probably kill you, right? It's a big ass animal. So what do we do to the cow before we eat it? We kill it. Okay. Plants can't kick you. They can't bite you.

They can't run away. So they produce toxins to just to keep animals from eating them or to demotivate animals from eating them. So what do we do to those plants? We cook them, we grind them, we boil them, okay? So this is true, but also humans have adapted to be able to process vegetables and foods. So they can eat them.

For example, eat a raw potato. You're, it's gonna mess you up. You eat a raw potato, you are gonna have ruined inflammation and digestive issues and it could probably kill you. You eat a raw potato, you are going to have ruined inflammation and digestive issues, and it could probably kill you. Who eats a raw potato? You boil the hell out of it, then you eat it and you're okay. I get what they're saying with this, and yes, some of the toxins remain, and what I'm not talking about are the highly sensitive individuals who obviously have autoimmune issues that

are going on. Like, Michaela Peterson was a great example. She had some autoimmune reactions and so all of these plants were causing reactions in her but most people If you cook vegetables or you process them like if you grab wheat out of the ground and chew on it You're gonna you're gonna shred your body But if you mash it up and grind it and then cook it then most people or a lot of people I should say can can eat the sweet. So, there's some truth to this message,

but what they've done is they've kind of twisted it, and it's just not true. Well, and here's, you'll always hear this message talked a lot about in the keto and carnivore space. So if you're a pro, all meat diet, then you're gonna highlight this all the time. But I do think there are people, though, and I do like something that Paul says, because I found this interesting, because I never thought about this and looked at what vegetables.

I've actually never tried to eliminate certain vegetables in my diet, wondering if maybe it's causing some of my autoimmune issues until listening to Paul talk about this exact topic. And one of the things that he said that I found interesting was I thought, well, I'm not gonna get rid of all vegetables, but I wanna keep some stuff in there. And I don't, I obviously don't think that it's from all of these vegetables, but maybe it could be

from some outliers. And your body, it's easier for your body to digest flowering parts of vegetables versus like the stem. Yeah, because the plants protect certain parts of it more than others. And it wants the fruits like the offering. That's right. Here, yeah, the animals come by, they they nap that and then it's like the wheel. Exactly. So if you're somebody who eats like a lot of asparagus and you eat the whole entire thing, you're the flowering part of vegetables are less likely to have these higher toxins and defense mechanisms from animals eating

it. So maybe looking at that and going like, okay, what vegetables are like flour? And there's truth to this, like we don't need to cook and boil our fruit in order to eat it. You can eat a fruit raw, I can eat an apple raw, I can just strawberry raw. Asparagus, I'm sure if I just eat the tip raw, I'll be a little better off than if I eat the bottom part or whatever. But that's why we cook and process.

It's just, it's, look, here's a deal. It's why we cook meat too. Could I eat raw meat? You can eat raw meat. Why do humans cook meat? It allows our body, cooking meat actually, it's part of the digestion. It partially digest the food,

unlocks a lot of the nutrients and evolutionary scientists strongly believe this is one of the reasons why our brains got so big. We were able to cook the soup, and yes, this is true now, meat is the most nutrient dense food on the planet. If you're living in the wild, you're probably not gonna survive just eating plants.

It's not gonna happen. You have to figure out how to grow your own plants and create the right combination. You're gonna die unless you catch some meat and then you're probably gonna survive. So if I mention plus, it lowers the risk factor with certain bacteria and parasites that it could get from the raw meat.

So it's like, it's just one of those things we hacked and figured out. I figured out for myself, look, I have gut issues. I figured out for myself that lots of vegetables help with my gut issues, but I have to cook them really well. You guys have seen how I eat them, right? I boil the crap out of them. Then I can eat them and they actually help my digestion.

If I eat raw vegetables, sometimes they can bother me. But I mean, we've been processing foods forever, just like we do with meat, just like I said, like the same example would be eating an animal while it's alive, very dangerous, but I gotta kill it and cook it, now I can eat it. Plants, you know, this is why the raw vegan movement to me is very interesting,

because they're taking out that element and I know some people can get away with it, but I don't know, have you ever tried to eat lots and lots of raw vegetables? It'll wreck your gut very quickly. You're talking about having trapped gas, dude. I wouldn't explode. Now that doesn't mean too though,

that there's not value in somebody who is dealing with autoimmune issues. They've tried different things to eliminate and they can't get the bottom of it. Totally. And that's why this conversation does need to be had and I think it's important because you don't think vegetables. Just like I'm sure Doug probably didn't think avocado

was causing issues with his skin and stuff like that. You think it's a healthy food, everyone talks about, it's a super food, it's so great for us. So if you have this really good diet and avocado is a part of that or asparagus as a part of that and you think of it as a health food, you don't think that it's possibly flaring up my psoriasis or causing my other autoimmune stuff I have going on. And so if you're trying to get to the bottom of that and then you hear a message like this,

like, hey, not a bad strategy to potentially eliminate that vegetable that you eat all the time that could be doing that. If you're an average person and you're healthy and you don't have any autoimmune issues, then this means nothing to you. Yeah, and you know what, you're right, because we always need to consider, because generally speaking, we can list foods

by more or less healthy, depending on the nutrients and what they provide us, but you can't ignore your individual body. You cannot do that. I've had to learn this lesson with clients over and over to the point where I finally gave in and said everybody's different. And I remember having a client that it was meat.

Meat did not make the feel good. I think you share a banana one, right? I had a client on the cotto over here. I mean, these are foods that you consider very healthy. That's right, spinach. That's right. And at one point, I remember thinking, dairy, oh, dairy's bad.

We're not meant to drink milk. But you look at the literature and you look at when people don't have intolerance as dairy and you realize it's one of the healthiest foods ever. Unless you react to it like I do. I can't have dairy, right? So you have to consider general, what's healthy? And then your individual body,

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