Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1674: How to Build Bigger Arms, Creatine and Hair Loss, Weekend Eating Hacks for Fat Loss & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: October 30, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads live via Zoom. Fat cells are found to play a central role in cognitive decline. (5:30) Disney satire. (14:24) Shout out to Dads on Duty. (18:46) Mind Pump on effective child discipline. (20:20) Justin is the ultimate ‘flatlander’. (28:47) Vuori now sells flannel! (30:30) Sal is sold on Robot Gary. (33:10) The earliest prehistoric art has been discovered. (37:02) Trump’s TRUTH Social is all speculative. (39:05) “Let’s Go Brandon” is making waves on iTunes. (41:21) Is hyperinflation coming? (44:29) Zbiotics ALWAYS delivers. (52:34) #Quah question #1 – What is the best way to incorporate the MAPS Biceps/Triceps mods into my current programming? (57:20) #Quah question #2 – Is there a point when diet is enough and that I’m wasting my money on creatine? (1:06:38) #Quah question #3 – How can I reverse diet to get my metabolism back to where it was before? (1:16:55) #Quah question #4 – How do you lose weight and still gain muscle, while having to meet the military’s requirements? (1:28:41) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] October Promotion: MAPS Anabolic and NO BS 6-Pack Formula – Get Both for $59.99!    Fat cells found to play a central role in cognitive decline and neurodegeneration 17 of the most outrageous sexual innuendos in Disney films, from Bambi to Frozen Fathers Form 'Dads on Duty' After Many Fights at Louisiana High School 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Gary is the most functional robot in the world Earliest Prehistoric Art Discovered –And it Turns Out to Be Hand Prints Made by Children 170,000 Years Ago All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg Not one, not two: Four anti-Biden ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ songs reach iTunes top 10 Jack Dorsey says hyperinflation 'will happen in the US soon.' Here are 3 reasons why he's probably wrong, according to an expert. 3-D Printed Houses Are Sprouting Near Austin as Demand for Homes Grows - WSJ Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP10” at checkout** MAPS MODS | Muscular Adaptation Programming System MAPS Aesthetic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Pros and Cons of Creatine – Mind Pump Blog Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Complete Reverse Dieting Guide: Your Path to Sustainable Results – Book by Layne Norton, PhD MAPS Prime Pro Webinar MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram  

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We bring up our sponsors. So again, that was 49 minutes long. After that, we got to the live question. So here's what went down in today's show. We start out by talking about fat cells and cognitive decline. There's some studies now that show that fat cells play a role in your brain's degeneration. It's kind of interesting. Then we talked about the dads on duty at Southwood high school, good dads, good fathers stopping the fights that were happening over there.

Then we talk about child discipline, a little debate on whether or not children should be spanked or not. Then we talk about Justin's party and the flannels that people wore there. Justin's style can be described as such. Mountain Show though, that's exactly what he looks like. He's a mountain show though. And then we talked about Viori, which is one of our sponsors that makes incredible athletes your wear, okay?

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Gary, you're in a game now. A lot of nervous over there. Then I talked about the old handprints they found that like almost 200,000 years old, it's pretty wild. Then we talked about Trump's social media platform that they're trying to build. Apparently it's just code. So it's just speculation at this point. Then we talked about all the number one songs on iTunes

that are about let's go Brandon. That's kind of crazy, very, very popular. Most votes in history, by the way. Then we talked about Jack Dorsey and his tweet on hyperinflation. So we had some speculation there in terms of whether or not the economy is doing good or bad or whatever.

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Started doing maps in a ball. That got great results. But wanted to know how to add the maps, bicep and tricep mod to the workout. So a lot of you might not know, but we actually wrote body part specific mods that can be plugged into our current programs for lagging body parts.

Really, really interesting. You can check those out at mapsfitinistproducts.com. The next question was from Chuck from Ohio. His question was about Cray 18, wants to know if it's going to be of any benefit to him, even though he eats a lot of red meat. Also wanted to know if it's true that Cray 18 might cause hair loss. We break down all the studies in that part of the episode. Then we talked to Jenny from California.

She's about to compete in a jujitsu tournament, has been cutting weight to make her weight class, wants to know how to reverse diet when she comes out of it, so that shirt she can get her metabolism back up to where it was before. And then the final question was from Jeffrey, from Maryland. This person's been following a maps program, but he gets really sore, also trying to lose weight

to get into the military, wanted some fitness and workout advice. So we broke it all down for him. Also 48 hours left for our October special. So two days left to take advantage of the following bundle, maps and a ball, like bundled with the No BS 6 pack formula and discounted heavily. So you can get both for this limited time for $59.99. It saves you over $100.

Again, there's only two days left. If you're interested, you got to do it now. If you want to take, learn more or just want to sign up, head over to mapsoctober.com. Once again, that's m sign up, head over to mapsoctober.com. Once again, that's m-a-p-s-october.com. You know what's interesting is that the kind of human functions that we have, like adaptations and the way we respond to certain stimuli in our environments, which are the result of, you know, if we think about how much time humans have been on Earth, and we look at that total time living the way we do now with

this ridiculous abundance of food and how easily accessible it is. Tiny fraction of time. Yeah, like how unactive we are, inactive we are, and how safe it is, and all that stuff, that's like less than 1%. Right? an active we are and how safe it is and all that stuff, that's like like less than 1% right. The majority of the time that humans have been on earth were in this radically different environment and so here's where I'm going with that right. So I read this study that now is directly tying the role that fat cells play in cognitive decline. So fat cells actually produce these cytokines and inflammatory markers that contribute

to cognitive decline. But then you think to yourself, like why would our own cells do that? Well, it's because under the circumstances that we're humans have been around for so long, that's not an issue, right? Our bodies evolved with little food, like food was hard, calories I should say,

were hard to find. We were constantly active. And in that scenario, your body, it's like it needs to evolve to conserve calories. It needs to evolve to be able to store energy because excess energy that stored as insurance against what's probably going to happen, which is we're not going to have enough food tomorrow or next week or the whole month or whatever. But in the context of now, it's like, it's like we've taken this adaptation

that evolved for this scenario and in current scenario, it's totally dysfunctional. Is that why we're living in etiocracy right now? Yeah, dude. That movie's so much. That movie's so true. Wow, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, where's the drive? Where's the drive to adapt and pursue another means? When your body's signal is that we have abundance. It's wild.

It's so wild. For most of human history, people's poor health was not a result of being sedatory, sedentary, and overeating. Like that just didn't happen. It wasn't like you're, you know, like we're in our caves, you know, and we're out hunting, and I'm like, what happened to Adam? Oh, you heard what happened?

Yeah, his back hurts because he's not moving enough. You know, it's like, why is his back hurt? Well, you know, because he's been lifting rocks all day. You're a terrible laugh. You got to fight him. Fight him bare lunch. Yeah. Or wrestling a boomer last night.

Why did Justin die? You know, he didn't have enough fat on his body. He got too lean in the end of dying. Now, do you think that we, do you think we will adapt in that direction in our lifetime, let's say? Like, do you think that we adapt in that direction? And in our lifetime, let's say, like do you think that we will get to a point where our bodies start to get used to this over consumption

and it doesn't affect us negatively as much? Because you know, this also highlights too, by the way, is, you know, one of the things that surprised me about fasting was how sharp and good I felt. Yeah. I would have assumed that I would feel slower and cloudier and not as sharp, but the direct opposite is what ended up happening. That was one of the most fascinating things about fasting for the first time. I never fasted for 24 hours. I think a lot of people probably had that

same thought going in because of the hunger signal, right? Like that is uncomfortable, you know, you get that sort of pain, you know, in the stomach, you get the anger and everything that goes with it. And it's like, you don't realize it on the other side of that. There's so much clarity. Like your brain just seems to function better. Well, it's just counter. It's counter to what you were taught as a kid. You remember your mom getting ready for the day you had a test, you know, and load up on the pancakes

and surrup and bacon and eggs and stuff. I want to have a full stomach, lots of energy. We want to get energy. Cramp the energy in there. Right, so it's sitting in class, like nodding falling asleep because you just had a bunch of pancakes. Yeah, okay, so you know what's interesting about this. You ever seen like videos, like I like Shark Week

on Discovery Channel, super cool, right? Dude, who doesn't. Yeah, no. And you ever watched the, I like Shark Week on Discovery Channel. Super cool, right? Dude, who doesn't? Yeah, now. And you ever watch the, like you see these videos of these divers that are swimming with like great white sharks, right next to them? Yeah. Or like, you know, people who are hanging out with these dangerous animals, and you're like, how are they not being eaten?

It's because the animal just ate. The animal just ate, so it's totally safe to swim. Like, don't swim next to a great white that hasn't eaten in a while because he's going to eat you. Okay, so where's this going? This is a hack. When you don't eat as a human, evolutionarily speaking, it makes sense that your senses are going to sharpen for a second. Until you run out of energy, which takes a while, but everything's going to sharpen to get you better, more effective at hunting or whatever. And if you're fully fed, then it's okay to be kind of lazy and tired because your body's like,

wait, we've got food, and we have energy. So it kind of makes sense. But back to what you said about the evolution, I don't think we'll evolve in that way. Not because our bodies can't evolve, but because evolution takes so long that I don't think we're going to allow it to happen. I don't think we're all just going to allow ourselves to die of overconsumption and non-activity. We're hacking it and constantly figuring it out with medication and exercise and ways to keep ourselves alive. The evolutionary pressures aren't necessarily there. If we allowed it to just happen, it would be thousands of years.

So you don't think we're going to just be like genderless blobs in space. No, I don't know, I feel like it's going there. Maybe, unless we're attached to maybe part computer part. Yeah, you never know. No, I mean, we're not gonna allow it to happen because before those evolutionary pressures take over, we'll figure it out with technology and medicine and stuff like that. But it's so weird, dude.

It's funny, because obviously my parents, poor immigrants, and if you go back, just my grandfather's generation. My grandfather, both my grandfather's, grew up very differently. They grew up the way most Americans and ancestors grew up in the late 1800s because they were in Sicily.

So they were super poor. My grandfather lived in a one cement room and him and his nine siblings were in one side, mom and dad and other side, all divided by a sheet. This is how they divided the room. And the donkey was in the cement room. That's how they lived, right? So it was super crazy, super hard. When I you know, when I went to Sicily the last time and talked to my grandfather,

we were talking about this and he goes, it's so funny when I hear my grandkids talk about like their neck hurting or their back hurting because they watch TV all day. Or when he goes, when I, he goes, my pains, aches and pains came from, like hurting myself, working like real things that contributed to it. And then he was like it's funny because you know I was into

working out and he's like it's funny that you go to the gym to do hard things to build your body. You know that's simulated. It's so strange. We're simulating hard work because our body is designed to accomplish these. Well you remember we we all speculated years ago on that was a big part of the rise of the obstacle course racing. Yeah. It's because we have got...

Primal side of you. Yeah, it's just that we want to do... Well, subconsciously, we need that. And I think a lot of people don't realize that. And I think that has a lot to do. Imagine going back, if you've 500 years, you could travel, right? So when 500 years ago, travel is forward of time.

And you are seeing an obstacle course, right? Wait a second. You do this on purpose? And you pay. Wait a second. People are going to give money to go do this stuff. It would just totally blow your mind. That's every day, I have to do that.

It's so funny. The key to surviving and thriving in the past was being the one that could find the most food and construct your life in the safest way possible so you could move the least doing it all. The currently, currently, the key to long healthy life is abstinence. It's avoiding things.

It's not seeking out the most food. Everybody could do that. It's who can abstain. You know what this reminds me of? And this is connected. I was watching this interview with, I think it was Jordan Peterson and they were talking about the effect of pornography

on the brain. And he made this point that blew me away. He said the average person today will could see more naked people, more naked women in one day than most humans would have seen in their entire lives. It's wild. To think that that doesn't affect your mind or your brain is amazing.

It's of course it does. We didn't evolve to have that much variety. So there's gonna be side effects. Well, I have to segue into this because this this did you know 2018 and I don't know if like we talked about this when it came out, but like Disney actually acquired porn hub. Shut up. No. Did you look it up? No. Yeah. There's no way that got by me. No way. There's no way. It's so snopes this guy or snopes. What's a cold? It's a cold. It's not a better fact check out. There's no. It's snopes.

It's snopes this guy. They would be crucified, Justin. I know. I've heard this from multiple podcasts and I've read this on a couple different articles. I don't know how qualified these articles are. Hey Doug, how come you type P and your browser just come right up? But I mean the moves. Ha ha ha. It's a joke that never gets tired. Come on Doug, what are you seeing?

What do you see? This is the one I'm seeing is that it's owned by Mind Gink, Geek, is the name of the owner of PornHub. Yes. What if you Googled from Disney acqu of the owner of PornHub. Yes. What if you Googled from Disney Acquires, or PornHub? I'm looking at it. I have a couple articles I can send you.

No way bro. Yeah, I'm seeing. That's gotta be like the ultimate troll. It's got, it's gotta be. Come on, it's gotta be. That, I mean, but I've heard this again. I mean, we're saying that is like a streaming strategy to, well, no, I mean, anybody to own a, it's that tire.

It's that tire. Yeah. The guy is just like, because he had something in there about like triple X men and all this. Like, hey, I was getting, oh, they're going to add like Jenna James. Can I tell you something right now? So I like it's amazing. I did not know about it.

I looked this up too. While Doug was looking it up, I'll just look it up. And I put in the search, does Disney own porn hub. And if you go down like five recommendations down, it's porn hub and it says Disney porn videos. Yeah, so they go. Oh, it's so brilliant. And then they get you to look at their videos.

Or it has to do with it. It probably all started from the, it was, wasn't it you or who said that you brought it up on the show I think so that one of the hacks to making sure The porn gets pulled off or something no one could share is play Disney music in the background Yeah, isn't it someone said that I forget who said that as a joke said that like it said something like if you ever make a sex tape It's right Disney music in the back because they'll pull it down I'll never yeah, right, so I wonder if it ever make a sex tape it's right Disney music in the back because they'll pull it down. I'll never yeah right so I wonder if now now here's here's along those lines now here's where in this direction

it's funny like how many articles if you look just like like that verify there's a lot you know of course it's bullshit but here's how you know your satire's effect yeah is when people start to believe it right yeah So this is what's along the line. It seems believable. Have you guys seen those conspiracy theories that Disney will insert flashes of pornography? There's nothing there. They're a little mermaid in the clouds. There's a dick in the priest where it had a bone. No, little mermaid, the castle is a dick.

Oh, the castle, that's what it was. Lion King, the Simba does this with his paws and the does comes up and says sex and Aladdin when he's flying through the tunnel It says something sexual on there like wait if you said you could I've done it. I've done your homework I have I mean I was we were but we had little brothers and sisters and they all had to and I was a teenager when all this information Was coming out so I have little brothers and sisters, we have every Disney classic that's out. And this news comes out. And of course, me being a teenage boy, I went and researched all of them.

And they are, they're true. Like the front there it is right there, the castle on the front has very much so, looks like a penis. His face has a G string butt. Yeah. So you know what I, okay, so here's my theory about this. I don't think it's some weird conspiracy

that Disney's trying to brush his kids. Just some bored animators or artists. Totally. So you know old video games, they would oftentimes designers would put little Easter eggs in there, just amongst each other. So it's like all of us are working, and we're working hard, and we're making this product,

and I'm like, Adam, check this out. Go to this screen, whatever, and you laugh, and nobody will see it because it's just a, that's what I think it is. I think it is. We're seeing the example that with Roblox, we brought up the whole strip club thing. It's like these little hacks that these guys

that are creating this stuff that you could create it and knowing probably all the amount of code it probably takes to write one of those games like how are they gonna find out where that's from? Well, I have some real news and I think. Not sat time. Yeah, not sat time. It's confirmed.

All right. It's real. You know how we talked, not that long ago, I talked about trying to bring positive, you know, topics like being consistent with that. So I'm always looking for stuff like that. And I don't want to force it to where I'm just almost I'm stupid just because it's positive.

But this one was really cool. And it's going viral right now. I've seen a lot of people post on it. And I think it's called Dad's on duty. Did you guys see this that happened? I can't see you. Oh, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight.

Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that are preventing the fight. Yeah, it's the dad's that arewood High School. Is it Louisiana? Is that where you live? It's at Southwood High School. There was like a huge brawl or something.

Well, it actually multiple. So since the beginning of the school year, they were having a lot of these big fights. I mean, big 20, 30 kids going. They showed a bunch of clips and videos of this happening on a semi-regular basis at school. And one of the ways that they decided to combat this was the fathers of a lot of the kids came together and you know like there are little shirts on that say dads on duty and are hanging out on the campus and that's been going on now for months and not a single fight has broke out. You got 10 dads on campus?

Is that gonna throw down? I know it's I thought that was a beautiful display of masculinity right there. Yeah and what a great response to that. I just thought that was a really cool thing to see a bunch of dads that came together. Obviously not all every dad could probably do that, but the dads that could came together and decided to do that and like,

what a positive impact. It is, in my high school, we had this one teacher who was exceptionally effective at stopping fights because I'm not gonna say his name, so I don't know if he wants it because he's also a little extreme, but he was a big dude. He looked like he probably lifted weights a lot in his youth, just this giant man.

And if a fight broke out, like he'd run across, and everybody saw, and he's this very imposing man, run across campus, and he would grab both kids and Tackle and cookers on the ground and people were afraid to fight because this teacher was gonna come across and you're like Yeah, I don't I don't know if you want to get away that today. I know But he was but I mean it's effective I mean so was the ruler where they used to smack kids when they used to do it, you took shit, kept everybody in line.

Hey, that's hilarious. Does anybody do that anymore? No, no, no, no. I actually, I thought I actually read somewhere that there's some private schools that still allow that. You say there's some kind of things to do. I think there are not in California.

Corporal punishment? Yeah, like I still think that, look up Doug and see if the paddle still exists in some schools. I think I read that actually not that long ago. That's so strange to me. I remember having that epiphany as a new dad and thinking, I would never physically hit

like someone smaller, like that much smaller than me. And why is it okay for me to do that to my kid? I mean, I know some people listening, you're gonna, I was raised that way, okay? So, I got spanked and stuff, but. It's just weird, it's just weird to me. I mean, I know some people listening, you're gonna, I was raised that way, okay? So, I got spanked and stuff, but. It's just weird, it's just weird to me. I mean, you say that, but I would challenge that with you also draw everything back to evolution

and that we're all animals. And so, if you ever watched a monkey with, it's sibling when it, you just, I mean, and there's not that that monkey doesn't love its baby, but it's a quick way to get them to understand that no, you don't do that. I think we're smart animals,

and so we evolve past that. Well, you as an adult have, but the infant hasn't. Well, yeah, but you know, I'm just playing devil's advocate because you say stuff like you draw to evolution all the time, but then when it's something like that, that challenges you're able to reach. Here's where I think the value came from.

I think the value came from when you had seven kids and you're a mom at home, and this is 70, 80 years ago, and you're doing all the stuff by hand, you got all your kids going crazy, and you don't got time to sit down and punish them and teach them, all you got is, look, if I don't get this done,

we're not gonna have clean clothes, I can't make dinner because it takes me two hours to do it. So you smack. You know, I think that's the wrong reason right there. That's mom's stress, emotional is not. It's really more catching something in the moment that at that time in their life, they're say they're two years old, they're going to put their finger or fork in the socket. And it's more reactive to let them know that's dangerous. And a whack of a stop is don't ever do that again. And they'll remember that the next time they're thinking about putting it in. And they're not at an age right?

It's said down, go, okay, listen Max. Yeah, maybe that has 220 volts. And that could mean he doesn't get that. No, maybe that's different though. I get what you're saying with a quick leg. Yeah, you know, shock him. I'll talk about that. That's the only way I think. I don't know what that's like, like spankings. Yeah, maybe that's different though. I get what you're saying with a quick leg. Yeah. You know, shock him. I'm talking about that.

That's the only way I think. Like spankings. Yeah, why don't trouble come here? Yeah, I don't subscribe to the, you know, dad's gonna spank you when you get home when, you know, it's been four hours later, dad comes home, he didn't even catch the behavior or anything like that and then he does it. But I mean, I mean, Jordan Peterson talks about this in his 12 rules and I totally subscribe with the way he makes this point.

And it's like, the hard thing is that there's a lot of parents that'll let their emotions dictate whether this, the spanking is warranted or not. It's not angry. Yeah, exactly. That is all the wrong reason to do that. But if it's a matter of safety or maybe my, let's say my, I saw my son with a stick

and he's getting ready to hit another kid on the head, you know, because he doesn't know better. He thinks that's play. You know, whacking him and be like, no, we don't hurt people. We don't hit people like, I don't know. I just very, very degrees of consequences, I think. And that's just kind of something

that needs to be outlined and created, you know. But yeah, like removal of emotion, in any situation where you're going to punish or to reprimand or needs to be applied, but you kind of vary that based off of the severity of the wrong. I imagine too, it matters on kids. I mean, you guys are perfect

because you have very extreme different kids as far as behavior-wise. You have very mellow, quiet, reserved kids. Justin's got the two animals. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're, they're, they're, it's super boy. Yeah. You say his boy, his two boys, I mean, I imagine there's many times where Justin has to

assert himself as the alpha to get them to, to calm down because they're two boys that are growing up and naturally challenging and being trying to assert themselves and dad has to come in and kind of be the alpha ever once in a while So I think I don't I may never have to spank Max So I he has this demeanor about him where I can say I mean we've taught him no. Thank you Like I can tell my son is about to put his a fork in a in a socket. No. Thank you. No. Thank you And he doesn't do it right, but not every kids like that you know saying so maybe I have the luxury that he doesn't he doesn't do it. But not every kid's like that. You know what I'm saying? So maybe I have the luxury that he doesn't need that. But if I had one of those kids and was like,

I'm gonna do it anyways. You can get waxed. My, the stories I would hear like my dad when he was a kid manager. But again, he grew up totally different, totally different era of poor and like tons of siblings. But I remember he told a story about how, it's a, when I say it out loud, it's terrible.

But we would laugh about it when we talk about it. Yeah. But like he was about it when we talk about it. But like, he was a kid and he's been working and trying to earn money since he was nine and he would give the money to his mom because they needed it. So nine years old, he stopped going to school and he went to work.

Well, every once in a while, my grandmother would give him a little bit of money from the money that he earned and he did a really good job of saving it, right? So when he was like 12, he bought this like half broken bike that someone was gonna throw away, but it still worked. So he had this bike super excited and he was riding it. And he came home late for dinner, like really late for dinner. And my grandfather who, part of, when one of his jobs was,

he had these like three wheeled, I don't know if they're called, but it's like three wheeled like vehicles with the big like you sell fruit out of the back or whatever. Oh yeah. So he's like, if you're late again, I'm gonna, you're not gonna have your bike anymore. Well, he was late again. My grandfather ran over it with his heart.

Oh my god. My dad said he was devastated. He was, yeah, here's the thing too. Oh my god. Like, he's like, I would rather get it, the shit kiddaddy me, then something like that, right? Or I was also the kid who I would have, I would have always rather get the,

my mom had a wooden spoon that we used to get whacked with all the time, right? So I would way rather have that, then go to your room and you stay in your room all day today and I can hear kids playing outside. Like that. Just torture? Yeah, beat me, please.

I would take the whip,, the spooos. It, you know, let's get this over with, you know, first. That's how I was. I totally would rather, okay, I messed up. I did wrong. Give me my punishment. Let me go back to playing with my friends,

but to take my play away from my friends. I found a hack with my mom. Cause I got, we got spanked as kids, right? But I remember, I figured out this hack with my mom, where, especially as I got a little older and I got a little stronger, if she went to like spank me or whatever or hit me, I would hug her around her arms

and she gets so mad, right, and scream, and then I kiss her, and I keep kissing her face, and telling her I love her, and it would get, I would win every time. Because she couldn't remain mad. I first elevated, ah, she'd scream, and I'd pick her, like, feed off the floor, so her little legs would be kicking in. And then I'd kiss her, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I to till this day, I'm a 40 year old man, right? I'll be at Bull Dinner at my mom's house or whatever,

and I'll make a joke or whatever, and my mom's instinct is to clap, you know? Just because like, your mom whack you the back of the head, I'll never go away. You guys are watch Saturday night fever with John Travolta. Remember the scene where he's, remember he's spending all his time like combing his hair or whatever

and he's trying to look cool. And then he goes to dinner and he's like as like tense dinner with his mom and dad and everybody's fighting whatever. And his dad keeps hitting him with the back of the head. Do you remember that scene?

And Jessica and I were watching it laughing because she gets hit in the back of the head and he goes, the hair, why you gotta hit the head? Don't mess up the head. You gotta hit the head. I'm like, he's doing both the head. I know exactly what this is, what this is all about.

There was, it was the other day we were talking about Justin's party and it couldn't find the place to insert this conversation, but I have to do, we're making fun and having fun right now, so I have to say something that I thought was really funny and I couldn't find the place to insert it in the last conversation. Well, it was actually taking Courtney's party

the first day, but I threw it through it. Well, yeah, you threw it, right? So, but I love the video, by the way, of what are you guys doing, karaoke? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he got Justin got down, it was great. He doesn't need a karaoke. He doesn't do that.

No, the part that was funny, and I didn't get a chance to tease him or bring it up on the show that I thought was really interesting because you always tease him and call him like a mountain cholo. Yeah. So this is officially the Santa Cruz uniform. So this isn't just Justin. Oh, people showed up, bro.

Literally, I felt so fish out of water because I was wearing like a gray sweater in blue jeans. Like everybody had vans on a flannel in a bucket hat. Like every single dude that was there had a different color flannel vans in a bucket hat. It's looking like a true flatlander. Did you guys wear did you wear dicks to? No, I mean, I was wearing blue jeans, but yeah, I mean the dicks is a thing for sure. Dicks and yeah, that's sort of like part of the whole that's so where I grew up in San Jose right and where I went to

school that your skaters kind of dressed that like that a little bit. And then with it we called Cholos, my friends, that would dress that way. So when I see you, like super white dude, grew up in the mountains and you dress that way, that's why it called you. Yeah, it's like a hybrid of both. Well, that you definitely could have spotted

Justin's friends, like right away I knew, like all these are his boys, for sure. It wasn't like the random husband to like my party's friends. It was pretty obvious. Those are Justin's boys right there, for sure. It wasn't like the random husband to like my party's friends. It was pretty obvious. Those are Justin's boys right there for sure. They like everyone has a uniform. But what it also reminded me of

that I wanted to bring up was, did you know that Viori sells flannels now? Yes, dude. And okay, so I didn't know you knew. I will like on record, like I was talking with Joe Kudlow, you know the owner, like forever I'm like, listen man, you guys ever throw a flannel out there? I don't rock the hell out of that thing.

Yeah. And they have him now. They do. I just ordered two of us. Oh, you did, okay. I didn't think you knew, so I wanted to bring that up. I was going through their stuff and looking at the, I got their catalog sent to me and I was like flipping through.

And I'm like, what? Dude, I was like, excited about this. Just to know this. Wow. It's flannel season. Yeah. My son likes wearing them too. It's funny because. I love them too. Oh, just to know this. Wow. It's flannel season. Yeah, yeah. My son likes wearing them too. It's funny because.

I love them too, I mean. They're great, they're comfortable. So my experience was, I was in elementary school, which went up to sixth grade. And then I went to junior high. And my junior high was in a little bit of a different part of town, and they different kids from different parts of San Jose would come.

And I remember pulling up for the first day, and in that era, so we're talking like mid 90s, there was, what was that movie? American Me was big, remember American Me, with the gangs and the jail and all that stuff, and blood in, blood out, right? So my familiarity with the had a horrific rap scene. With that, oh, terrible.

With that type of gang, you just look in culture, I'd never seen it real life. I just saw it in the movies. We're pulling up to school and I swore to God, dude. I was like, what is going on? Kids wearing hair nets and they had the one button up at the top and wearing the Cortez and the Dickies and just, and you had your Nortonios,

which was like they all wore the red, and then you had your serenios wearing the blue, and then I was like, oh my God, where am I going to school? This is gonna be kind of weird. It took a while before schools really started to crack down on that. We grew up in the era that it was kind of not policed early on.

Yeah, you wear your blue rag or your red rag. Yeah, it was like on the way out when they really started to, like when I was leaving, like all the rules there in place, now like you can't wear like colors now. Not like that. Yeah, most high schools, even if you're at a school that doesn't have a uniform, like no solid colors, especially red and blue, they'll crack down on you.

So, but that when we were in school, that wasn't a rule. That didn't become a rule till later on. I mean, they kind of was kind of a free for all back then. Yeah, and I remember those one kid, and I remember looking at him, he had like full on mustache. This is like seventh grade, big ass kid. And I remember being like, wow,

this guy, why does he look so mature and stuff like that? And then I find out he went to Juvie for like two years. So he had to go back to seventh grade. I'm like, oh no, this guy's way older than we are. That's not great. That's not great. You got a mustache. This is kinda crazy. Anyway, hey, Adam.

Yeah. Listen, I don't want to get all in the weeds with this, okay? Oh, we're not gonna, we're not gonna redo the debate. Oh, God. Come on, bro. I don't want to see some bullshit plastic robot dish washing thing right now. No, no, no, no.

I'll show you. Kind of. Have you guys seen, have you seen robot Gary? Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Gary is the name of this robot and it says the robot who can do the household chores. So this robot picks up toys, dirty socks, water's a plant, serves food, strips, bed sheets, moves, packages, and he'll be on the market next year. Let's see it. This is Doug. You have to bring up what I'll send you the link. You have to bring up what Carlos said, who's like in that space, right? So he's going to school right now. What was his degree?

Doug, do you remember what his degree was? I expect you to remember all these things. I, some kind of engineering. Oh, I had something to do with. Yeah. I had something to do with. Anyways, he's, like AI tech. Yeah, exactly.

He's in the space and he actually thinks that I'll be right in this situation. And one of the reasons he didn't say to me right, he said here's the negative of the positive. He said, I'll give you an answer. He knew he was outnumbered. And so you could tell that the way he was presenting that information, you guys,

he didn't wanna hurt your feelings. And so basically what he was saying, we're trying to give you some kind of approach. One of the things that's gonna be really difficult with the dish washing robot is the ability for the robot to know if the dish is clean or not clean and to be able to decipher that from a scratch, from a mark, from coloring, or actually food and dirt.

And he says that that's extremely complicated to get that done. Bro, this is crazy. Is this right here? That's Gary. All right, Gary. That is Gary and it's designed to be, they think it could be a great companion

for senior citizens. They think restaurants and stuff will use them. Costs 5,900 bucks. It looks a little bit like Rocky. It totally looks good. It's totally good. That's why he's still bodyin' on his music. This is it.

Rocky, you ain't. Rocky had predicted it. This is why it's the greatest film ever. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. It's a love story about Gary the robot. There's other reasons why Listen, well here's a deal. I can't wait. I'm gonna find one of these Fucker. Hey, look at you see that either. Hey, this is all simulated, too. It's not it's not even really doing it. Yeah Sorry, we're we're we're getting we're getting excited like I at least have a little bit of At least Justin's with the cleaning the bathrooms

was that you actually got to watch a robot splash through. All right. Yeah, this is all simulated. Yeah, this is weird. I mean, this doesn't even come in the argument, bro. So how many simulations they have of us traveling the orbit of the moon and doing all the space jumps. He's got like a bars terrible.

Okay, so you lose that one today. Okay. It's all right, we'll see. You know it's weird about this. Again, I don't want to get this. Next year is coming out though. That's interesting. Next year, dude.

So here's the big argument. The big argument is you'll have all these robots and machines doing things for you. And then when AI becomes self-aware and it goes to all these robots, all these robots and machines will have memory of how they've been treated. I have said this.

This is day one. You guys go back. I'm like, this is why I treat Siri like a queen. You're all sweet, you sweet talker. Yeah, I'm like, you're the most Siri you're the best. I talk to her again. I don't know. Exactly.

I'm so big catalog that. Yeah. He is a threat. I talk to her. Exactly. I'm so big catalog that. He is a threat. You know, take him out. Gary's going to show up and be like, sorry, I must neutralize you. What Gary, why would you do this? You've been a part of my family for five years. I will replay the tape, you know.

You fucking idiot. Don't do it. Stupid thing. Reboot. Kill him. Oh boy. All right, so here's some other cool stuff. Justin, did you see these really old prehistoric,

prehistoric paintings that they found? I think some of the oldest ones. Okay, the earliest prehistoric or... Is this a cave in Portugal? No, I don't know if it was a cave in Portugal. I know that they found it. I don't know if it was there, but I'm gonna read a little bit here and let you know.

But this is the oldest, one of the oldest ones that they found, 170,000 years old is what they're estimated. And the ham prints are, they're saying now, made by children. It's on the Tibetan plateau. Oh wow. And they're saying that it was children that made this. How wild is that?

So the limestone on which the traces were imprinted dates to between 169,000 and 226,000 BC. So they're saying that this makes the site It leads to between 169,000 and 226,000 BC. So they're saying that this makes the site the earliest currently known examples of this type of art in the world. Wild, right? Wow. Isn't that wild?

When the person is all fine, Zaraf, if you find that, I mean, do you get any of the money from that, or are these all like people that? I don't know what money you would get. I don't think the other people. Well, I mean, it's got to be, someone would pay big money for that, don't you think?

I don't think you own it. Well, they just, money for that, don't you think? I don't think they could own it. Well, they just, yeah, will preserve it somehow by making it like a historical location or something, but I don't even know what money. Is that it right there? Yeah, yeah. Isn't that crazy? Like, I'm gonna say, I have tours for it.

Like that long ago, they had this, they had the idea as these humans, like I'm gonna put this for future people to see, you know, which we take for granted, but I think that's so. I think sometimes we overthink stuff too, these kids be kids fucking around, you know what I'm gonna put this for future people to see, you know, which we take for granted, but I think that's so. I think sometimes we overthink stuff too. These kids just be kids fucking around, you know what I'm saying? Well that's exactly what it's like. Yeah.

Just like when you did when you were a kid and like they were doing construction right up the street from your house and you're like the cement sweat and you're like, it says stay away and as a kid what do you do? Yeah. 250,000 years later, if I just am old drawing. Yeah, and they're gonna be like. 250,000 years. Do you think that they're going to fight Justin's old drawing? Yeah, I think a bit.

Wow, these kids were so brilliant. They knew just to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,'t know the, yeah. Hey, you know, we talked about the Trump's social media thing, and we speculated on all that. And somebody recently, so shout out to whoever this was, that emailed into our team and referred me to a podcast. And I'll shout the podcast out. I listened to it for the first time in the day. It's called All In Podcast. And economics, politics, cryptocurrency, stocks,

like cool stuff, stuff that I'm interested in hearing. And these guys talked about the definitely knowledgeable dudes in the space, like I don't know much about them, I just listened to one time, but you could tell they knew what they were talking about. And they actually broke down like everything going on with that. And one of the things I thought was really fascinating is like there is like nothing.

Like they literally took code and copied and paste from something else. There is no real platform. It's literally all, it's peaked with that. Actually the analogy they gave was like, this is like an NFT company. Like it's all on Trump. Everyone believes that there's such a need for that,

but it doesn't mean that it still won't take off for Curzy because they now have like a multi-billion dollar cap. They're like raising funds. That's right. Yes. So it's like sort of, what do they call that when you like prepay for something or you're?

Right. Yeah, you're, well. So there was so much. How volatile it is. Okay. It went from $9 a share. Then this whole thing got announced to 150 something. It went up to well, no, 94. And then and then it went down to 59. And now it's back up to 65. It's all so speculative all and and the like the guy who he has running it is like some real estate mogul in Florida. And so they were breaking it all down. I was like, wow, that's really interesting that it's not even like a legit company yet,

but because everybody wants to see this happen, they got enough people that are buying just on purely on speculation. Now, and what that's caused is actually a legitimate possibility that he could do something with it But as of right now, it's like nothing. There's nothing. There's like no real code to support it There's no like real engineering team to support it the guy who supposedly running it is like in real estate as He's real stays not even a tech mode. Yes. Yes, crazy. I know speaking along those lines

Did you guys oh you you were the one that brought this up. This, let's go Brandon. Deal? Oh, bro. Did you see how many number one songs? They have five of the top, either four or five of the top 15 downloaded songs right now on iTunes. Or let's go Brandon. Let's go Brandon.

By different artists. So different artists have piggybacked, let's go, Brandon. By different artists. So different artists have, have, have piggybacked off for Let's Go, Brandon. And then Adele, who's like an amazing artist, like they're just like skyrocketed passer. Right. What? Did you guys, so did you guys see

Biden's performance at that town hall? No. He was doing like the robot clenched fists. I'm gonna, listen, I don't care where you stand But this is it looks like elder abuse. It really does He's obviously listen the guy's been in office for a long time and Biden used to be super sharp If you watch his videos from 30 years ago 20 years ago He was I mean he was like the quintet one of the quintessential politicians like fire sharp like just going for and

one of the quintessential politicians, like fire, sharp, like just going for, and what he is now, he's clearly, it's clearly cognitive decline. Something is not right. I'm not saying he's crazy and a lot of people say everybody's noticing it. I mean, it's like, it's too obvious to not pay attention. No, and as approval ratings are some of the lowest that I think we've ever seen a president have,

my prediction is this because it looks like he's starting, that the Democrats are starting to kind of separate themselves a little bit from him. I predict, I think if it stays this way, that they're gonna make, they're gonna have to, they're gonna make him primary for the, for the presidential election. Normally, right?

If you present, that just means that he has to now compete with, so it's not like he's the nominated one immediately. It's like he has to go back and sort of compete with the other four. Yeah, because if they go into the next election and he's anywhere near his current approval rating and it's probably smart.

So what's the typical process? If you're the standing champion. Right, if you're the president. So think of it this way. It comes back to running. You're the automatic nominee. So yeah, so for the, So it right, if you're the president. So think of it this way. It comes back to, to run. You're the automatic nominee. So yeah, so for this, for this, like you and then somebody else.

And then the Republicans, they have to have their primary to see who wins amongst them to run as the presidential nominee against the current president, which would be Biden. But I think because if he continues down this path, that the dams are gonna be like, all right, we need to make him primary

because we need someone else. Now, are you reading anything to support this claim or is this just you speculating? I, this is me speculating. No, has that ever happened in history before? Good question. That's a very good question. I don't know.

I don't know if that's ever happened before. I don't know if the rules will even allow it or if they have to change the rules. Right, that's what I'd be. But, it looks like they're starting to separate themselves from them because it's, I'm telling you, man, I don't care where you stand, watch the guy, and I know people are like,

Oh, Trump was crazy too. Listen, I'm not saying crazy. So is this where the rock, I'm saying cognitive attack. Yeah, in Oprah, in that, I said that, I'm on record saying that quite some time ago. The rock would be hard to beat, wouldn't he? Yeah.

He's got so much celebrity. I love the rock, I understand. Yeah, no. So much celebrity, he'd be hard, he'd be really hard to beat, wouldn't he? He's got so much celebrity. I love the rock, I agree with that. Yeah, no. So much celebrity, he'd be really hard to beat. But it'll be interesting. Speaking of which, Jack Dorsey, right? The founder of Twitter, just see what he said about inflation. And oh no, I think he came out and said something

about Trump's social media thing too. I was actually going to look at it. No, he did. Let me see if I can find it. He said, he did a tweet. And the tweet said, not that he's like some guru about it, whatever, but this was his tweet. Hyperinflation is coming.

Hyperinflation is going to change everything. It's happening. So this is from Jack Dorsey. Yeah. So, speaking of that, I was looking at a chart on the real estate, right? And they compared back in 2006, like when, before everything went and crashed. And the percentage of loans that were like subprime loans that were people's credit scores.

So it's like a whole credit score thing. And the really interesting thing about where we're at right now in the amount of purchase, like, first of all, there's like, there's not even a line. You can't even see. There's like, the amount of subprime loans are so minimal and there's this huge rise in the amount of purchases coming from people that are like 750 and above So the people that are buying like one of the theories that everybody has is like oh, it's gonna We're gonna buy so many properties and folk foreclosures gonna happen

That's gonna flood the market while we're also trying to build up problem is you've got 750 credit score people that are buying most of these homes. So it's different. It is different. They're coming with 20% down, they got 750 FICO scores. These aren't people that don't make their payment. It doesn't mean that an economic crash isn't on the horizon though. It means it might be different. Look at the student loan bubble.

That is very, very crazy. Well, I know. I mean, you can, this is the, I mean, this would be, this is your only defense at this point because you've been wrong for two years. Right, if you call, if you say crash, crash, crash for 10, 15 years in a row, like eventually you're gonna be right, it's gonna come down.

But I don't, I don't predict the crash still. I'm still, we're not gonna see a crash. We're gonna see a dip. I do believe, we're gonna see a plateau followed by a slight dip with the market correcting and that'll probably be looking like something like rising interest rates that are what they'll have to do to slow down inflation. They'll raise the interest rates even though they've said they're not going to do that anytime soon. It will eventually go up or they will if hyperinflation kicks in that will slow the market down. But yeah, so hyperinflation comes from, it's not just lots of inflation of the money

supply, but it's also when people widely believe that prices are never going to come back down. That things are going to continue to get way more expensive. So what ends up happening is people go out and buy shit like crazy because they say, if I don't buy this fridge today, next month it's gonna be, you know, 30% more expensive. And so then you have all these people going crazy buying things because they're like,

get it now before it gets too expensive. And then that makes happen. I don't like it anymore. Yeah, that's gonna happen before holidays with kids and everybody's like, worry about, you know, like the shelves being not stocked. We're in a really really weird time Really weird. I mean the last decade to you ever do you ever pay attention to like VC exits and and the amount of money That is getting raised for like new companies and like the turnover on old companies and new company startups coming and then the exits on VCs like

We like for for decades in the past, I think I wanna say it's under 100 billion a year, so in that, we're five X that in the last five to seven years. And that was a kind of a common trend forever. It's like this, it kind of went like this as far as the amount of companies being started and then blowing up and then VCs, and then all of a sudden in the last decade it does this hockey stick. And I mean I think I read this on the podcast one time

I read an article that talked about the S&P 500 that would buy 25 years from now or something like that like 75 or 80% of the companies will be completely turned over like that's insane to think about looking at the entire S&P 500 and thinking that more than half of these companies in two decades or more will be completely gone and new companies coming up. So we're in a technological revolution right now that's really weird right in the middle of.

You had record numbers of small businesses close, unemployment, real high, huge percentage of the workforce drop out permanently, unemployment, real high, huge percentage of the workforce drop out permanently, simultaneously, the biggest wealthiest companies made record profits. So it's like, okay, we had all these shutdowns, right? But people still need to buy stuff. Tystance killed it. Yeah, so Walmart, Target, Amazon, still working, but your local stores all had to shut down.

Local places all had to shut down. So it's a really weird situation. Because if you look at the stock market, oh, it looks like it's kind of doing good, but it's a lot of these big companies that, it's almost like they took more market share from all these other companies because they just absorb all these other companies

that were competing back in the days. Yeah, so it's almost like luxury items and assets will continue to go up, you know, because that's where wealthy people put their money and then everything else kind of. And then you're also starting to see this where, and this is a nifty trick that companies will do. When things, when inflation starts to hit, what you don't want to do is raise the price of your toilet paper because then you might lose customers.

So you talk about this. So you just make the toilet paper roll smaller. Right. And people don't necessarily realize that. They do them less. Well, this is what I see happening with houses too. Like, was it you Doug who sent over those interesting houses that are like, oh yeah.

The modular houses. Yeah, what were they called? They were called something. I forgot what they're called. God, it's around the tip of my tongue. But I mean, they ranged from 50,000 to, I wanna say, 350 was the most expensive one. And they're basically like,

you could buy it in these pop-up houses. And they're completely sustainable. The solar, the built on the back, septic, you literally could drop them in the middle of nowhere, and it's a fully operational house. Wow. So I mean, I think that, and then we see what's happening too, I think I just saw another

article I think Austin is now doing the 3D printing on the houses. Jackie sent that over on our thread. I think it was Jackie who sent that one over that that's speeding up. So I think that you're just going to see more competitive things like that come out and you'll just see a... That's really interesting. That's really, I think that's definitely the future, right?

Because the construction of homes is not meeting the demand, not even close. And that's an easy way to do it. Along those lines, have you guys ever seen the homes that people have, so during the time of the Cold War, well, lots of wealthy people built these underground bunkers and then they abandoned them or whatever, or they sold them.

And then people are buying these underground bunkers and turning them into like these prepper communities. Or crazy houses that are underground. Have you ever seen these? I shared them with you guys on YouTube when we were joking around about the world coming to an end of the floor. Yeah, this was a thing. Like when the whole everybody thought the Aztec or the Mayan calendar

was like gonna determine that this is gonna be the end of the world, there was this whole push to like sell people properties that were like these underground bunkers that were like luxury bunkers. Yeah, there's some badass ones. There's some decent ones out there that look like, man, they got pools, they got like theaters in there, like a full kitchen.

That's so wild. Yeah. I was talking to my kids about this the other day, but we were actually driving to school and my son goes to my daughter, he goes, hey, did you know that in the year 2000, like, well, because my daughter asked me, what was the party like 1999 for New Year?

So I'm talking about it. My son was playing a song for us. Play the pre-song for us. And then my son goes repeat. Did you know that everybody was worried that the world was gonna end because they designed like all the computer Y2K. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Y2K. That was like a big scare. I was explaining it to them It as I'm explaining it sounded so ridiculous

I'm like, yeah, we you know they use the last two digits of the era Well, I guess a lot of computer programs that allow for four so they were worried that it would switch to zero zero And then the computers would think it was in 1900 We'd all just for money. Yeah, I've played a lot of scotch. It was this great. Oh, we were just pandemonium. Dude, back to the party that I threw.

I was impressed that I was alcohol. Everybody could sue my house. I actually was like, I thought, you know how like you just want to make sure you over the liver in terms of like food or like, you know, of drinks and all this stuff. Like, I packed, you know, my refrigerator to the gills. Like, everything was stacked and by the time I had, I had, I had like, maybe three cans left. The girls were getting down. Yeah. Yeah, the girls were getting really, did you,

one point out? Wasn't that many people? I mean, that was a lot of people. Did you hand out Zibiotics? So everybody could, I, so there's only a select few. So? I mean, that was a lot of people. Did you hand out Zibotics? So everybody could, I, so there's only a select few. So I took one, Courtney took one,

I gave one to Adam, and the first thing I asked for, as soon as I walked in, I was like, but please tell me you have some Zibots. The chain is like, I don't even need one. She's like,

she's another level, but, she's got three livers. Yeah, yeah. But, but how'd you feel? Cause I mean, we all kind of felt great. I felt great. And we did drink.

We drank quite a bit that night. I haven't drank that much in a while. And if I'm good about doing that, so that the hack is the Z-biotic, if you can drink some water in between the night, if you can get it in there. But for sure, before I go to bed, to Advil and pound a glass of water. That's like with the Z-biotic first,

that is like the eye wake up, like I didn't have anything. Which is great. Which is great. Henakes, you know, just would like, I'd have to like lay in the couch and just be like, oh, this goes away. It's so crazy for me because I have, I don't drink

and I have it until, until really Z-biotic. I mean, we, if you go back far enough on the podcast, you hear me talk about alcohol and how I'm not a drinker, I'd rather smoke. You just react poorly to it. Yeah, and that's why. It's like, it's not that good. I hear me talk about alcohol and how I'm not a drinker, I'd rather smoke. Just react poorly to it. Yeah, and that's why. It's like it's not that good. I'd have a good time when I'm drinking.

It's just the time afterwards was so miserable that I'd have to really want to get down. Or it had to be a very special occasion for me to drink because I knew that the next day there was more than a 50, 50 chance I was going to feel like shit. And since Zbiotic, dude, it's definitely, I'd now all go somewhere like a social event like that where I normally probably wouldn't drink

and I don't, you know what, I'll have some time. I make sure I save, you know, because there are some of those events, I'm like, I at least have it like available. Yeah, so I got a message from a guy who he was gonna get married and he's like, is it really like what you guys say on the podcast? Is it, have we ever lied or whatever and he goes no, it's true So he bought a bunch for him in his groom's man

For the wedding and he said and then I got the DM back from his honeymoon He goes dude. He goes he goes. I can't express to you like how wild this is he goes all me and all my buddies Felt way better the next day because you guys literally like my honey this is, he goes, all me and all my buddies felt way better the next day. Because you guys, like my honeymoon is awesome because I don't feel hungover. If you don't do it anyways, I gotta get back to, you know, having a good time. The things that I think are funny is the only people

who DM or message us and say, oh, that should didn't work, where would I, we ask them like, what, what, what, oh, we had like an eight ball of coke, what would you say? It's like, bro, where on there did we say that Z-biotics is gonna cure or help your coke habit? It's like, that's a different animal.

Yeah, that's a whole different monster. You've gotten DMs like that. Yes, yeah. Well, what happens to someone's like, oh, I tried it and I still felt terrible the next day and I, and then I start asking. Is there anything else? What did you do? Yeah, what did you eat?

I started asking questions and then like, I'm like, do you, did you do anything? Oh, well, you know, we did a little bit of coke and it's like, yeah, bro. I was like, what did you do at E? Yeah, what did you eat? I started asking questions and then like, I'm like, did you do anything? Well, you know, we did a little bit of coke and it's like, yeah, bro, I can't. I don't think Z-Biotics put anything in there to help that out. You know what I'm saying? That or the Molly's, the four Molly's, you drop that day in Vegas,

like that might have had something to do with it. Z-Biotics is magical. Yes. It's so nice. Hey, real quick, before we get to the rest of the show, you gotta go check out one of our sponsors, mass zimes. Now they make digestive enzymes designed specifically for people like you, fitness, fanatics.

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All right, here's the rest of the show. Our first color is KC from Washington. KC, what's up, man? How can we help you? Hey, Sal, how's it going? Really appreciate you guys. So I'm new, a long time listener, first time caller, and I am in the final phase of Annabolic,

and it's going really well. And I want to get bigger arms. I feel like the rest of me, like, proportionately, I'm doing great. And Annabolic has been a fantastic program to go through. So I purchased the bicep and Tri-Set mods. And what I'm curious is, with the length of each of the foundational workouts in Anabolic already,

what's the best way to incorporate those mods? Can I incorporate both of them? Should I replace all of the Bicep Tri-Set workouts in each foundational exercise with all of the, you know, modification parts? Should I do like just go through the bicep mod first or just do the tricep one or like add a fourth quote unquote foundational date where I just do

the bicep and tricep mod exercises. I'm curious about the best way to incorporate this. Yeah, no, good question. Okay, so for people who aren't familiar, have been triced at mod exercises, I'm curious about the best way to incorporate this. I know. Good question. Okay. So for people who aren't familiar, so we have mods that we created for specific body parts and literally they're designed to be plugged into our current programs to replace the workouts for those corresponding body parts in those workouts.

For example, let's say you get the the glute mod, you want to build your butt. What you do is you would take your maps program, take out the glute workout that's already in there, and replace it with the mod. And what the mods are is typically increased volume, so more exercises. And essentially what you're doing is you're trying to bring up a lagging body part.

So the second thing, the second option that you kind of brought up is exactly how you would use a smog. So you would take my abs at a ball, like take out the bicep and tricep workout that's already in there and then replace it with the mod so that you're placing a little bit more focus on the arms or the area that you wanna focus on. Does that make sense?

Yeah, excellent. So it's really, it's exactly how it works. So if there's other body parts, you do the same thing. Now, it's typically not recommended that you combine mods because there's a lot of volume if you do it that way. But this is really, and really Adam's expertise came a lot. We utilized quite a bit in this because of his experience competing. And one thing that he did through his career, and I'll let him him touch on this is he was able to bring up specific body parts

And the way he did it was he would focus on one at a time like he didn't focus on all of them at the same time Because it's just too much volume too many you know too much going on He would focus one at a time so Maps and a ball like as it's laid out But you replace the bicep and tricep workouts With the mod that you purchase so you can bring up your arms. We also created them with the intention of that,

if you wanted to stay in something like MAP Santa Balla, you could run it the way it is exactly. And then let's say in your example that you were trying to bring up your arms, you could run it back a second time and then now you plug in the mod. So it gives you this exercise variation and addition to that also increased volume for those specific areas and sounds

right. Like not that you couldn't technically do another mod in there also, but then you're starting to get a ton of volume and then I would just recommend going to like maps aesthetic, which is more focused on, you know, focusing on specific body parts. But the way those mods work, you could pretty much run Maps and Obolic multiple times back to back and then switching the mods in for those because we change up the exercises and we increase the volume in there. But what you're thinking,

I think you're right on par with what you should be doing. Now, Casey, how far are you through Maps and Obolic? Third phase, I think. Third? Yeah, I just Third phase, I think. Third? Yeah, I just started phase three on Monday. And my quads are sore from CISIS quads. Oh, yeah, that's a brutal one.

Now you said you've been getting good results. I'm assuming you're getting stronger. You're noticing muscle gain, the whole thing. Yeah, everything's a bit like, I've trained since high school, but it's always been like, on my own, I'm in my late 30s now like I've trained since high school, but it's always been like on my own I'm in my late thirties now. I've got four kids my oldest son is a wrestler And so like I'm just trying to keep up with them and stay active and flexible and so Going through like a natural program like anabolic has just been tremendous because I was over training before so like going down to

Three foundational exercises, you know workouts a week has been tremendous just because my fitness is no longer I was over training before. So like going down to three foundational exercise workouts, a week has been tremendous just because my fitness is no longer a point of stress and it just fits in better with our family dynamic and lifestyle. And so with the length of how long it takes me to get through those foundational workouts, I was curious about how many mods can I get in there? Because I was also like eyeball in the shoulder mod as well.

And so I appreciate the feedback to only incorporate one at a time. And then you can just run through anabolic again, with just to rotate in whatever mod you want to work on next. Yeah, then I think the other thing we could do too, Doug, why don't you send him over maps aesthetic? Because that would be the next progression to sounds like the direction you're heading.

Isn't that great though? How we can reduce the amount of times we're heading to the gym and actually see more results. Get strong. Yeah. I've been, it's being in my heading is the wall for years of just like having like hit a plateau when it came to strength and results. And then I was also on the like intermittent fasting train for a long time and jumped off of that as soon as they started listening to you guys.

And so getting off of that, reducing the high volume of frequency of training and over training really, and just having it more balanced, it was like flipping a switch. I feel like, I'm in the best shape of my life, I feel great. I'm looking better. All right. And doing less work, right? That's so right.

I do a lot of work, and that's the thing. I've got friends, you know, no, you know, not to rag on CrossFit again. But I've got friends who are just like killing themselves every day doing these, you know, you know, work out of the day stuff, and they're just, they're dying and they're not getting the results

they're going for. And so to go through the Y'all's programs and like just do the work, just do what you told and you'll get the results. Yeah, and you're learning a lot right now about how your body responds. So this is a great experience. One more thing you can do,

you mentioned your shoulders on your trigger session days. Do you like some band laterals, band front raises, band rear flies? Just get a little pump in your shoulders on your off days. Just put a little more emphasis on those. That's a couple of times, literally, twice a day, two to three times a day on your off days, get a pump in your shoulders with really light movement,

not super intense, just get a pump. And that should also make a big difference in your shoulders, and it doesn't add You know lots of damage to the body. So you could do those simultaneously the trigger sessions for your shoulders Keep the set remember keep the intensity low use bands get a little bit of a pump and the bicep and tricep mods for the foundational days And I think you'll be fine Awesome. Thanks guys. Appreciate you. No problem. Thank you Man, we're getting a lot of these these guys that are just like tons of kids He's got four kids and he's doing all this stuff. He's joking

That's great man. To me, this is one of one of my favorite things about What I feel like we've been able to do is to communicate this to the mass like there's always an exception or there's somebody who's listening right now who's a bodybuilder and you know responds well to a split seven days a week and bodybuilder and responds well to a split seven days a week and they're competing and maybe MAP's and a bulk isn't the perfect program for you. But I mean, it was the thing that connected us, man. When you sent that over to me, I'm like, man, this is the messaging that I know

a majority of my clients would benefit tremendously from. And it's counter to what I thought and what most people thought. So I know that there's a lot of people out there that just they think that the more work and the more days they put in that the more results they're going to have in their body. And it's there's the right dose for that. And I just think that the two to three day a week full body routine with triggers in between is just so realistic for people that have lives outside of the gym and you can build.

And I mean, you heard him. He said, best shape of his life in his life, in his like 30s and four kids. I love, yeah, I love how he highlighted that, you know, how it made a massive difference. And then also what he highlighted was that we have mods too to experience our programs in a completely different way. Again, it keeps them fresh, it keeps them alive, and there's ways to incorporate that as well. We don't talk about that a lot because we have done, put a lot of work in other directions

in terms of other types of adaptations we're trying to acquire, but to be able to go back, I know some people have run similar programs like over and over again, looking into the mods, there's new ways to add that in and make it fresh again. Yeah, and we made a very inexpensive on purpose because we wanted people to have that option to modify their workouts, twice called a mod, but I can't stress this enough.

The right dose will get you to your goals faster than the wrong dose, bottom line. So more, we'll get you there slower, less, we'll get you there slower. If you find the right dose for your body, you will get to your goals faster than if you do more or less. That's just the bottom line.

Our next caller is Chuck from Ohio. Chuck, what's going on, man? How can we help you? Hey, how's it going? First of all, I just wanna say, thanks to the opportunity to talk to you guys. I really appreciate it and I'm actually here at school, an almond assistant principal at middle school. So I'm hoping that things don't blow up here in the next 15 minutes. But you know, I enjoy the podcast. I'm a morning lifter 4 a.m. 5 a.m. I listen to

you guys every morning and I've actually come to the point where I've listened to episodes that I think I enjoy the introduction more than I enjoy the fitness part now. I'm a father of two kids, both under four, so I really have come to relate to a lot of the conversations you guys have, so I just appreciate you and all that you guys do. My question is around pre-teen in general. I know that I'm not a huge supplement guy. I basically take pre-workout and I will say you create a team pretty consistently. And I'm just kind of wondered,

you know, I meal prep every day with beef. And then, you know, usually a couple nights a week, we have beef for dinner. Is there a point where my diet is enough and that I'm just wasting my money with creatine? Yeah, no, good question. Okay, so a couple things. Number one, you're fine without taking creatine. So you're getting enough from your food to be healthy. You're not going to notice like when a vegan takes creatine, for example, studies will show they get an IQ

boost probably because they're not getting enough from food. That being said, will you benefit from supplementing with creatine? Probably. Yeah. You probably will, because, and studies will show this that creatine, additional creatine just tops out your ATP stores strength. And you can experiment with this. You could take Create Team for a couple of weeks, see if you notice any increased strength or a better pump.

I do notice that in part of your question, too. You mentioned Create Team and hair loss. Would you like me to go into that a little bit? Yeah, I was just curious. And I'll be honest, it's kind of slip on mind. You had an interview a while back. It's probably been a couple weeks now when it published. And it was like a brief moment in the episode.

The guy I mentioned is studied. And then I've seen Lane Norton talking about it a little bit here lately too. Is there any correlation between, you know, creatine and hair loss? Or is that, is that minuscule? What's the, what's going on there? It's a, it's a big stretch.

There's zero, there is no evidence that creatine is connected to hair loss. But here is where the evidence, this is why people will say this, or why some people will talk about this. There is some evidence that creatine may cause a increase in DHT. So DHT is a form of testosterone

that is more androgenic. So androgenic, meaning the masculineizing effects that you may get from testosterone. So DHD is great for libido, aggression. In fact, anabolic steroids that are derived from DHD, bodybuilders will take it because it makes their muscles look hard, it makes them feel aggressive, they'll get a libido boost from it.

And DHT also can cause the masculizing effects of hair loss, you know, male, or excuse me, female voice deepening. So if women take DHT, this will happen or if they increase their DHT, maybe prostate enlargement. But here's the thing, the amount of DHT increase that has been observed in some studies, either studies show there's no increase or some studies show there's a minor increase. It's so overstated that it would cause any issues. That's like a downstream thing that they're trying to connect.

As of right now, all the studies on creatine are positive. Improvements in health, it's got antioxidant properties, good for your heart, good for your muscles, good for your organs, brain function, nothing, there's no studies that show that it's connected to hair loss. I think that's a big like kind of fear mongering a little bit. Could it, you know, would it, would it slight increase in DHT cause hair loss?

Probably not, maybe in the absolute most sensitive individuals, in which case it doesn't matter, because they're gonna go, their hair's going away anyway. But yeah, that's not something I would worry about. Doug, would you, W, Google, how much creatine is in a pound of red meat? I don't remember what the number is right now, but this will help Chuck kind of your question,

your point to, you know, how much red meat you're eating because you're right. If you eat, consume a good amount of red meat, you are getting some creatine through food. I want to say that the recommended dose for optimizing that is what around five is it five? It's five, five grams a day. So here you have one, one, okay, one pound of raw beef or salmon provides one to two grams of creatine. So even if you had a pound in a day and the optimal place is about five, that's still only getting you about a half way point to that.

So you would benefit from three to five grams a day. Kind of what I do is if I had like a really heavy red meat date, that might be the day I do skip taking my creatine if it was like a really heavy day. And then all That might be the day I do skip taking my creatine if it was a really heavy day. And then all the rest of the days, I'm taking it or maybe I'm taking a half scoop or something. So just so I can stretch out how long my creatine lasts, that's a strategy that you can use.

You're definitely based off on how much red meat you're eating, you're not deficient. So it's not like you need it to be healthy. But if you're looking to build muscle, there'd be an advantage to you still utilizing some creatine. The only thing I would say, like I know some people have had issues with their gut in terms of creatine and not really being something that was agreeable with them, but other than that, there's really little downside to supplementing with creatine.

So that's just one of those things. If it doesn't agree with you, I wouldn't keep going with it. Yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about the hair loss fears or whatever. A little increase in DHT, not going to affect you, except maybe you might notice an increase in libido and strength, but even then, anytime we affect our hormones naturally, the boost, even though you may read studies, oh, 30% increase, like you do the math and you look at that, it's not that big of a difference. Like, you would get an increase in DHT if you naturally raise your testosterone too,

right? So if somebody, let's say, is walking around with a measurement of 600 testosterone and then they optimize their life and their sleep and their diet, they may get their number up to 800 and there's typically a corresponding rise in DHT also associated with that because DHT is where we get that from test austro but nonetheless I wouldn't worry about it and I think we're gonna see in the next

five to 10 years, Crateen is gonna get recommended to, they're already starting to recommend it to the elderly. It's like a wellness supplement. It's a wellness supplement. And now some people don't really get any drive any benefit from it, they're called non-responders. But you'll know within two to three weeks, like start supplementing with it,

and if you don't notice a difference, then you're probably not a big deal. But if you notice a little bit of boost and strength, better pump, that kind of stuff, then go for it. Okay, great, thank you, yes. Awesome, thanks, thanks for calling in. Nice, Chuck. Yeah, that's the one, it's so crazy, right? Like of all of the promises of the supplement industry,

of all the supplements, that's the one golden goose. In fact, Crayotein is what saved the supplement industry. It really is because of Craya team the supplement industry Exploded you can actually connect the growth of the supplement industry. Is that true? Absolutely really absolutely if you look at when Craya team hit the market When EAS I think was the first supplement the first company to really Really market it and bring it out and it's with crushed for EAS right they brought it out people took it Oh my god, it actually works crushed for, yeah, yes, right? They brought it out, people took it. Oh my God, it actually works, right? And you can see how the supplement market really took off

as a result, and it's backed by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of really well-made studies. It's been studied now for 20 something years. And it's, again, it's probably gonna be recommended as a health supplement, general health supplement. It was interesting when it first came out, like, you know, football team, we started to take it. And it's again, it's probably going to be recommended as a health supplement, general health supplement. It was interesting when it first came out, like, you know, football team, we started to take it.

And then it, there was all this fear behind it because it actually worked. Yeah. And so like we got people coming in, rewarding us about, you know, all these different things that potentially like could happen. And it's like, you know, none of that was true, but there's lots of fear going into it. Like it was some kind of hidden steroid we didn't know about. It's one of those few supplements that I cannot take for a while

and then reintroduce it back into my routine. And I see a nice, even increase in all my weight, like strength wise, just to, and I also look fuller, right? So like I noticed that like my muscles look fuller, I look bigger because I'm probably hanging on to a little bit of extra water in there too. So I think that those two things are guaranteed,

and it's not one of those things that if I do for a long period, I know you've never stopped, so. I've been taking creatine relatively consistently since I was 16. Right, and you probably only really notice when you come off and then go back on that. I mean, I've come off a few times, but I'm pretty damn consistent with taking it.

And you know, it's funny, you look at the wellness space that talks all about mitochondrial health. You can sure you've heard that, right, from all the hackers and the biohackers and all that, right? One of the best things you could do. Powerhouse of the cell. Yeah, one of the best things you could do for the mitochondria of your cell

is help them produce more ATP, which is one of their main sources of energy. That's what Craya team does. And that's why studies are all now showing, oh my God, it helps with heart function. It helps with liver function. It's your cognitive function improves. So it's just one of those, and it's like a, again,

it's like a miracle supplement in the sense that there is no other supplement that comes close. And it's really the only one that's ever lived up to the hype. Really no other supplement has lived up to the hype, not even close to what Crating has. Now to your point to the mitochondria health, I have always wanted to do this and test and be consistent with it. I've played with it, but I haven't been consistent with it to really tease anything out, and that's the stacking it with the red light therapy. Since the red light, doing it post workout, doing red light therapy, and then also taking your creatine. It'd be interesting to see if you noticed like an added boost from that.

It makes sense because they both do that, right? Yeah. Different ways. Our next caller is Jenny from California. Hey, Jenny, what's going on? How can we help you? Thank you guys so much for taking me on here. So my question is, recently, I've been dieting down for a

tournament. I'm doing a jujitsu tournament a couple weeks. I've lost about 12 pound, last six weeks or so. And so my tournament's coming up and after my tournament, I'd like to learn more about reverse dieting because I've never heard about it before. I started listening to you guys recently. I've heard you talk about it and touched on it a couple of times, but I'd love to maintain where I'm at right now as far as my size and muscle mass and everything, but I definitely build up from here. I've been eating it about 12 to 1500 calories to get down to this cut, get down to this right weight. But I would love to, you know, continue building that so that I can eat like

around 12, 2500 something like that for my size. Okay. I'm going to answer your question, but I have a few more questions for you before we get there. Sure. How long have you been training in Jiu Jitsu? Like what rank are you? And then is what, like is this your first tournament, your fifth tournament? Like how far along are you? And did you know it in Purple Bell?

Yeah, I've been actually training in Jiu Jitsu for about 20 years in the Brown Bell. I took some time off in between to have kids and kind of, you know, rest my body and all that stuff after having kids. So I've done several tournaments, but this is kind of my second or third since coming back into training pretty seriously. And this one is kind of a really big tournament. There's a lot of people at my gym going and doing it. If I can, you know, place at this tournament, it's going to be a big deal.

Oh, good, is this the US open? Yeah, no, it's Masters. Masters, unfortunately, Sal can't help you because he's only a purple belt, so yeah. I'm a pretty good friend. No, you know why I ask you that question, Jenny, is because oftentimes I talk to athletes about cutting. And when we have the conversation,

it's better to not cut. It's typically where we end up with. Because as athletes, especially when we have weight classes, and grappling tournaments, wrestling, those are all boxing, combat sports tend to have weight classes, we often believe that if we cut and go in a lighter weight class that will have an advantage because we're now going against lighter people,

but that advantage disappears if the cut is making you feel like crap or you're losing strength or it's really aggressive or it affects your health in a negative way. And I've seen this many times, I saw this in Jiu-Jitsu, I also saw this in wrestling, and I remember my cut, I had a cousin who would wrestle and would cut so much weight,

and I remember I convinced him once, like, don't cut weight and see how you feel, and he did better because he felt stronger and more healthy. So that's why I brought this up, but I'm assuming with your experience, this is something you've done before. So the thing is, and I totally hear what you're saying, I used to rest on high school.

And so I've been through this kind of bringer for a while. But the thing with women's weight classes is, it's 175 and above is the weight class. And so I really wanted to get, I was about 186. And I was about 24% body fat. And so I knew I to get, I was about 186. And I was about 24% body fat. And so I knew I was carrying a little bit extra. And I really wanted to get into that next way class, which is 175, like the cap is 175. And you have to weigh in with your Gion and all that stuff. So I knew that I could get there. And I'd much rather do that than fight a girl who's maybe 230 pounds at one baby.

You don't want to go against what's her name? Gabby, whatever that. Yeah, I think you guys have seen her. She Gabby, whatever that goes. Navigar, see that? Oh my God. I don't know if you guys have seen her, but she's at, oh dude, it's like, imagine me with long hair, but even bigger. Okay, so, all right, so, okay, I'm so glad you said that. Okay, so reverse dieting essentially in a nutshell,

without getting, going into the weeds, is slowly increasing your calories over time while you continue your training. And trying to maintain your weight or maybe build a little bit of muscle so that your weight stays roughly the same but now you have a faster metabolism. At your weight and the amount of activity that you're doing,

I noticed in your question, you're saying you're eating about 12 to 1500 calories. That's really low. That's really, really low. You should probably be at least 500 to 700 calories higher. So when you get out of this tournament, what you want to do is increase your calories by about 100 a day. Stay at that.

You know, caloric range. See how your body adjusts and then do it again. If you see a big weight jump, then hold steady and wait a little bit before bumping again. What you really want to look for, Jenny, is, do I have more energy? Do I have more strength? Am I maintaining my fitness, my health? And also, and I didn't ask you this question, but also, you may notice some positive hormonal changes.

Oftentimes, especially with women, when they train really hard and cut their calories, they start to notice negative hormonal changes, like lowered libido, hot and cold, body temperatures, and then they lose their period, or they get very spotty with their period of sense that it's not as consistent. So those are all signs that you're maybe doing too much, not eating enough.

The reverse diet should really help regulate that. And ideally, especially at your level, where we would want to see you, is for the next tournament, you don't really need to cut, but you're eating way more. And you'll probably feel a lot better. So again, in a nutshell, it's just a slow increase while you monitor everything. So I'll add two little things there. One, I think it's a good investment to purchase Lane Norton's book. He actually has a book on reverse dieting or it's like an e-book. So it's

relatively inexpensive. It has tremendous value. It has more specific details if you want to follow a more dialed plan. So I think that's tremendously valuable. And then the other suggestion that anytime someone's reverse dieting, I always like to really change up their strength training routine. So if you have a typical kind of program or you know, training routine that you follow, it's when I reverse diet, so when I really like to shake that up. So I don't know what that looks like for you. I don't know if you're following a maps program currently, or you would be following a maps program, but really shaking it up from what the norm is for you.

And that will help take any of those additional calories that you're now consuming, and hopefully partition them over into building muscle instead of getting stored as fat, because you're sitting such a new, unique signal. And that could look like rep ranges and rest periods that could look like introducing exercises that maybe you never did before, like Turkish get ups or single like dead live, some good movements in there that you're just not used to doing that you're probably not very good

at, but that'll be really good for you while you are also increasing your calories. Yeah, Jenny, what did your strength training look like and what it consists of besides you? Yeah. So I usually do, I actually haven't ran like a program like Maps or anything like that. I do bootcamp kind of hit classes with that cardio and lifting and that kind of stuff.

So it's more of like we'll have arm days or leg days or back and buy stuff, that kind of stuff. And I enjoy lifting weights, but for this tournament, well, really in general, I've just been able to work those classes in. But like I said, I've just recently found you guys and really have enjoyed listening to you and would love to kind of work in on strength a little bit

more. I joined a normal gym. This last week, just to work on my cardio, a little bit more, get some more treadmill time. But I think after this tournament, I'd love to focus a little bit more on that too. Oh, man, I'm so glad Justin asked you that question. Okay, how many days a week you should...

Yeah, how many days a week are you training Jiu-Jitsu? Well, right now it's five. Before this comp training, it was maybe like two to three, just kind of whatever I felt like doing it. If you want more endurance and stamina, do more Jiu-Jitsu. There's nothing you can do in the gym. There's no other workouts you can do

that will give you more applicable stamina. And you know this better better than I do you've been doing this for a long time. The type of endurance is stamina required for jujitsu is different than what you would get maybe unboxing or writing a bike or running. So if you want more stamina, then then train more jujitsu or train your jujitsu in a way to add more stamina. So do more like the King of the Hill type matches or people are jumping on you every minute or every 30 seconds, roll faster or harder or longer. That's where you'll get your stamina. When you're lifting or you're training outside of that, you wanna do something that you can do with weights

that you're not gonna get from Jiu-Jitsu. In other words, focus maybe on strength and maybe mobility. And that's really it. What you don't want to do is try, and it's a big mistake a lot of athletes make, is they try to mimic their sport in the gym thinking it's going to improve them at their sport. That's the wrong way to train. So a lot of times you'll see an athlete and they're like, I need more endurance in my sport. So now I'm going to go to the gym and I'm going to train for more endurance.

The only time that's applicable is if doing too much of your sport is starting to hurt you, like boxing, right? Boxers, they can't spar all the time, they get beat up a lot. The beauty of Jiu-Jitsu, and again, you know this better than I do, is you can roll more and more. And yes, there's always that risk of injury, but it's not like boxing or football,

where at some point, it's just, you gotta get more stamina outside of there because you just can't keep getting pounded on. Do the jujitsu for the stamina, train jujitsu in a way to improve stamina if that's what you want. And then when you go to the gym, focus on strength. So it's slow, it's lower reps, it's full body workouts. Don't go super intense, the intensity should be safe

for jujitsu. And then maybe some mobility work, which will always benefit your Jiu-Jitsu. But don't train in the gym, like you're mimicking your Jiu-Jitsu. It's a huge mistake. Well, and now that we know this, and we have more information,

I'll be even more specific. And Doug, why don't you send her over Maps and Obolic? If you're gonna do, if you're gonna, after the tournament, if you're gonna drop down to two to three times a week, Jiu-Jitsu, I would love to see you do two times a week of maps on a ball. Perfect. I think that would be ideal.

If you're gonna do anything else in the gym more, I would do mobility stuff. If you want a great mobility routine, that's kind of a full body thing that's free. You go to the mapsprimeprowebinar.com where I do like a 50 minute mobility routine. That's basically head to toe some of my favorite movements. You can literally just follow that. That would be the only other thing I would do in addition to the two days a week of maps and a ball.

You do that in a reverse diet and watch how much you'll build so much more muscle. Yeah, let's give a shout out to your school. Where do you train? I'm at Synergy in Rockland. All right. I know exactly where that is. I have familygy in Rockland. All right. Hey, I know exactly where that is. I have family up in Rockland. All right. Good luck. Awesome. Yeah.

Awesome. Yeah. We've got a big crew that's been training really hard for this tournament. So we're excited to get out there and show the world. Good luck. I hope you went. Yeah. I hope you went, Jenny. Thanks so much, you guys. That's funny. I know that school. I have family that lives up in Rockland.

You know, it's so glad just to announce that. Oh, man. That just that completely changed. Oh, yeah. Allters the direction there. I mean, that was the big mistake I made when I trained is that I thought I had to mimic my Jiu-Jitsu training in the gym and nothing gave me more stamina in Jiu-Jitsu like doing more Jiu-Jitsu. And then when I went and said,

you know, why don't I just go to the gym and focus on strength since I can't really do that in Jiu-Jitsu, it was like night and day with the improvements that I made. Yeah, that's funny. I mean, I was addressing that same thing going into the off season next year with the football teams, like, dude, we didn't spend enough time on the actual skills

that we need to acquire. And like, to do that, you can get all the conditioning you need by just like drilling these skills, like over and over again. And it's gonna have like way more impact than just aimlessly kind of running and going through the cardiovascular training. But yeah, to really focus in and hone in on the strength cycles and the strength

and acquiring strength is gonna take you so much further. I mean, the exciting part is if she takes the advice and does exactly what we just said, she's gonna see tremendous results with the reverse diet. Oh yeah. I mean, if she's used to doing, it'll be way more muscle-preserving. All that endurance and stamina training and circuit training for

weights and then we put her on a two day a week full body strength routine while also increasing calories look out. I mean she's primed for that to like show her incredible results if she sticks to it. Our next color is Jeffrey from Maryland. Jeffrey what's up? How can we help you? Hey, guys, how y'all doing today? Good, how are you? All right. I appreciate you taking the call. So my question is, and I'll give you a little bit of my background. So I'm currently on Maps and Obolic.

I'm on my third time on that. So recently, I got an injury on my back. I'm recovered from it But I feel like now for whatever reason every time I go do like squats or something like deadlifts I feel like I get really sore the next day and I'm not sure if if it's because I'm pushing myself too much. And the prior, I was doing a lot of running. I stopped doing that because I felt like my knees started hurting from all that too much. And my next question is, so I'm

trying to reenlist in the military. I'm still currently, I'm way more than what I used to, but I think it's more of a muscle that I've gained, not body fat. I still fit my same clothes, but for to join the military, you have to weigh a certain weight for your height weight. So my question is, how do you, how do you lose weight and still gain muscle while having to meet the military requirements? All right, let's start with the first one. I need to ask you, when you say you get really sore, do you mean just your muscles get sore or the back injury starts to hurt again? So at first, I was going, I did lighter weights because my back was still hurting, but now it doesn't hurt. I just feel very sore. Okay. You just, you might be going too hard

and too, too heavy or maybe too much volume. It also could be, he's been, this is a third time around on maps and a ball too, like his body might be screaming for something like maps performance and some mobility work. Yeah. Actually, that maps performance would be perfect for you. I think that would be a perfect routine for you. And then as far as your the fat loss, muscle gain type of stuff, that's going to be diet. I mean, you have, you're going to have the good training if you follow a mass performance.

And by the way, if you don't have that, we'll send that to you. But that's going to be great. That's going to be diet, dude. And then to pass the military test, you need to practice the actual test. There's nothing's going to get you. Nothing's going to make you more capable of passing the test like getting good at the actual test itself.

And are you concerned with your ability to pass testers? It's just more the weight thing. Do you feel pretty confident you'll pass the physical? No, so I've already been in the military. My concern is just the weight. The weight. Because for my height, they require a certain weight, but I've gained more weight so that would mean I would have to drop at least 15 more pounds in order to meet the requirements. And they do a lot of running so I feel like that's another issue when it comes to lifting weights as well. This is another reason why I'm glad Adam mentioned performance because it's going to be

a lot more protective of the joints and that repetitive stress is going to add up Obviously, yeah, like losing weights going to help You know, it's going to help you feel like lardering your feet like less, you know stressing the joints but To then reinforce that and go through those mobility sessions especially but like keep up, you know your strength cycles is going to be You know a great complement to what you're doing. How long do we have until to lose that weight? So we have about 15 to 20 pounds. We need to go down. How long do we have? There's time, but I would say it probably like three months. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good

You just Jeff what are the worst foods you eat on a regular basis? Like what do you have any any issues with like soda or sweets or processed foods or you know, what are your worst foods? My worst foods has to be sweets probably okay. I'm pretty good at controlling myself But there are there's days it it can get pretty bad. What does that mean like what does that look like? It's candy. What is it usually so I usually meal prep and I have everything ready So as long as I eat I'm good But then let's say I'll go out with some friends on the weekend and I'll have some cookies and One will turn into ten. Yeah, and but for the most part especially I don't I don't always do that

Um, and I do meal prep every meal. So I'm pretty good on that. You know what it sounds like, Jeffrey? It sounds like, and I've seen, this is very common. Monday through Friday, you're on point, Saturday and Sunday, you go off a little bit. And so, from a calorie perspective,

what that tends to look like is, let's say somebody wants to, I don't know, let's say they want to lose a pound of body fat a week. So that's roughly and this is loose, right? 3500 calories of deficit a week. So what they do is they go, okay, I'm gonna be a 500 calorie deficit every day because that equals, you know, 2500 calories. So Monday through Friday, they're good, right? So that's 2500 calorie deficit so far. Then Saturday and Sunday, they go over by, I don't know, a thousand calories each day,

which is easy to do. It's very easy to do. I mean, 10 cookies could easily turn into 700 or a thousand calories. Well, now your calorie deficit for the week is 500. So now it would take you weeks to notice one pound of fat loss. So those two days can make a big difference in how you start to lose body fat overall. If Sal's right, and that is something

that you struggle with his on weekends, I gave a tip to somebody else on one of these live questions a while back that I think, and I had a lot of response from people that said, oh my God, I started doing that. That was a huge game change for me. And that was, if that's the case, you struggle with keeping

your calories and check on the weekends, Sunday becomes the most important day of training and dieting. It's like a crazy hack that I figured out personally because I sugar and sweet through my thing, weekends going over. My also my thing also, if I were to take a day off of lifting or two, it would be Saturday or Sunday. And so if I build my routine around, okay, Sunday is the day I cannot miss. And that is the day that I'm gonna be dialed in the most. It's crazy how the rest of the week kinda just falls in, in order, where if I don't do that on Sunday

and I start off and I have a bad Sunday eating and then I go into Monday, it's harder to get me out of that on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. And as far as the performance, mass performance, would you say include that with enabolic or just do no performance? No, it's a new program. It's a whole new program, just follow-up performance. And it's got the no more anabolic?

Yeah, no more anabolic. Leave that, leave that, or you mean anabolic, because like steroids. Yeah. Carcure. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's why you're 200 pounds now.

Yeah. You're on that, you're on that D-Ball. No, yeah, yeah. No, maps performance is its own program. So you're going to, once we send that to you, you could scrap it, maps anabolic, and do maps performance. I think it'll be better for what your goals are. OK, sounds great.

All right, man, thanks for calling in. All right, thank you. Have a great day, guys. Thank you. How many times did you guys have that with clients where they're really good Monday through Friday, Saturday and Sunday, according to them, they go off a little bit,

and but they don't realize how much damage those going off. That's why this, I mean, that was a big thing for me. I remember I shared a long time ago, I shared on the podcast, the introduction to the body bug. Yeah. Before that, we didn't have a good tool to be able to kind of get a good guesstimation of your metabolism, right?

Or what you're burning on a regular basis. And I was so dialed Monday through Friday, like a perfect, I trained hard, I was moving all day, training 10 to 12 clients, like super active, burn a tremendous amount of calories, 5,000 plus calories a day, I was that back then. And then Saturday and Sunday, there was times where I could drop all the way to 25, half, you're just sitting on your ass.

And that's also the day I'd say, hey, it's Saturday and Sunday, I'm gonna have some pizza and watch football or I'm gonna have a beer or two. Like I would go off the diet, I would possibly not train and I would be burning like 50% of the calories. So not much room for air. I could easily go over and the little bit

I was going over on Saturday, Sunday was enough to cancel all the work I was doing the week. And that was what, that's how the Sunday can't take it off thing. Happened for me. I said, okay, well, I'm just going to make myself dialed. Sunday's going to become my best day. It's no longer going to be my worst day. It'll become my best day.

And what ended up happening was if I set the tone on Sunday, the rest of the week, I ended up having a great week. Yeah, no, it makes a huge difference. When you said that, I know we got messages from people. And it's the psychological piece of it. Totally, yeah, it makes a huge difference. When you said that, I know we got messages from people who are in line. And it's the psychological piece of it. Totally. Yeah, totally.

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