Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1688: How to Build Your Hamstrings, Tips to Squat More Weight, the Benefits of Adding Kettlebell Swings to Your Workout & More

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about home gym hamstring workouts, how to back squat more weight, ways to add kettlebell swings into a program, and the age where eating in a caloric surplus is no longer recommended. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Fasting is terrible for fat loss. (5:29) Is Beyond Meat falling out of favor? (14:29) Going all out for Adam’s 40th. (18:33) Adam and Justin share their skydiving experience. (21:34) Sal’s experience with Superdrol. (30:04) Is YouTube removing the dislike button? (34:43) Why would the motivation be for Bill Gates putting out misinformation? (40:53) How much sugar is really in your McDonald’s sweet tea? (47:33) Another great use for Organifi’s protein powder. (48:11) What Mind Pump is watching on TV? (49:50) NCI’s $10,000 money-back guarantee. (51:48) #Quah question #1 - I’d like to focus on my hamstrings, and I need recommendations for home gym workouts? (55:54) #Quah question #2 - How can I back squat more weight? (1:01:04) #Quah question #3 – How would kettlebell swings be put into a program? (1:05:57) #Quah question #4 – Is there any age where you would not recommend eating in a caloric surplus? (1:09:28) Related Links/Products Mentioned November Promotion: MAPS Anywhere and the Fit Mom Bundle – Both 50% off! **Promo code “NOVEMBER50” at checkout** Mind Pump #1602: Why Intermittent Fasting Is Bad Is Fasting Effective? - Mind Pump Blog Fasting is a Terrible Way to Lose Weight – Mind Pump Blog Beyond Meat shares drop 19% on poor quarter, weak outlook In honor of Adam’s birthday we wanted to show y’all some of his best moments Superdrol - steroid.com YouTube is killing the dislike button, and people are freaking out Bill Gates warns of smallpox terror attacks and urges leaders to use ‘germ games’ to prepare FDA approves drug to treat smallpox The founder of a startup that charged $8,000 to fill your veins with young blood says he's shuttered the company and started a new one Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Watch Red Notice | Netflix Official Site NCI Certifications x Mind Pump Visit My Serenity Kids for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MP20” at checkout** Build Your Hamstrings with the Stability Ball Leg Curl The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Stiff Legged Deadlifts! Build Your Hamstrings- How to Properly do Good Mornings MonkeyFeet - Animalhouse Fitness Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog Kettlebells For Aesthetics – Mind Pump Media How to do a Proper Kettlebell Swing (Don’t Make THIS Mistake!!) Hardstyle Kettlebell Swings vs. Kettlebell Sport Kettlebell Swings – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1427: Don’t Make These 6 Bulking Mistakes Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Elijah Helfman (@elijahhelfman)  Instagram  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right? In today's episode, we answered fitness and health questions that were asked by our audience. By the way, if you ever want to ask us a question that we can answer on the podcast, if you go to our Instagram page,

Mind Pump Media, and you list your question under the quap meme. So that's Q, you, excuse me, Q, you A H, there you go. Put underneath, and then if we like your question, we'll pick and answer it on an episode like this one. So before we got to the questions, we did an intro portion, which was about 49 minutes long, where we talk about current events and fitness and scientific studies and we

talk about our sponsors. So again, that's 49 minutes of the episode. After that, we got to the fitness questions. Here's what went down in today's episode. We opened up by talking about how fasting is actually bad for fat loss. I know a lot of people say fast with the goal of fat loss. And we explain why it's a terrible approach Then we talk about beyond meat. No, this is not meat that you find in another universe This is that company that makes the fake meat and they were crushing just a few years ago and now they're tanking

It's so weird. It's beyond me. It's like we totally predicted it Then we talk about Adam's birthday party. He's old now and we celebrated that over the hill. And then him and Justin talked about their skydiving experience. They jumped out of a perfectly good plane for no damn reason. So stupid. No, it was a rink of the plane. I wanted to get out. Then I talked about a over-the-counter supplement. I used to take it when I was a kid in my early 20s. It's actually a steroid called SuperDrawl. Now they sell it on the black market. So crazy. I did a lot of crazy things when I was a kid.

Then we talked about how YouTube is going to be removing the dislike button for the public to see and there's some conspiracy theories around that. Speaking of conspiracy theories, then we talk about Bill Gates and how he's warning everybody of a smallpox terrorist attack. If this comes true, he'll be two for two, Justin. He predicted the coronavirus. Yeah, that's right. Then we talk about how the FDA approved a drug for smallpox just four months ago. Boy, the timing. Strange man. Really strange. Then we brought, then we talked about the McDonald's sweet tea. Adam found out how much sugar they actually put in the sweet tea

containers. It's more than two pounds. It's a lot of sugar. And then I talk about how my daughter just got braces. She's having a tough time chewing on food. So I'm going to be making her some smoothies and shakes to get her nutrition in. And I'll be adding organifies plant protein to it to give her a great amino acid profile protein. That is plant-based. Organifi is a great company. They make plant-based supplements that are all organic. Great products all the way around. In fact, one of my favorites is their pumpkin spice latte, gold juice, got healing mushrooms and herbs. You drink it at night, calms you down, relaxes the body, tastes amazing. They also have a green juice, they have a red juice for energy.

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It's a lot of fun. And then we talked about another one of our sponsors, NCI. They've got this crazy $10,000 money back guarantee with zero down. Go to their website and find out more. So if you're a trainer or coach, or you want to be a trainer or coach, and you want to be successful,

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The next question, this person wants specific tips on how to be able to squat more weight. The third question, this person wants to do kettlebell swings but really doesn't know where to put them in the workout or how to do them properly. So we helped them out. And then the last question, this person read an article that said that bulking

is a young man's game. And when you get older, you shouldn't bulking anymore. So we talked about that and dispeled some of the myths that surround bulking. Also, all month long, we're running a sale on one workout program and a workout program bundle. So the first program that's on sale is maps anywhere. This is a gym free equipment free workout program and a workout program bundle. So the first program that's on sale is Maps Anywhere. This is a gym free equipment free workout program.

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at a ball, and the intuitive nutrition guide. It's already discounted because it's a bundle. We took an additional 50% off. Again, this is only happening in November this month. So if you want to take advantage, head over to mapsfitinistproducts.com and then use the code November 50, that's N-O-V-E-M-B-E-R, five zero with no space for that discount. All right, today's fit tip, don't do fasting for weight loss. It's a terrible fat loss approach. All right, guys, so let's,

I like that one. Let's talk about this a little bit, because fasting, I'm insulted, I'm leaving this conversation. Fasting has now been like this big thing, right, in the fitness and health space, and most people use it as a strategy to lose weight. I actually really, I just got a DM a couple of weeks ago.

I'm glad you brought this up for a fitness tip because if you listen to just one or two episodes where we've talked about fasting, you might get a misunderstanding on our stance or our point of view on it, right? So we've done episodes dedicated just to fasting where we talk all about the benefits of it. I think we've done specific episodes

of why you shouldn't fast. And so depending on which episode you, and I saw people actually arguing with each other on Instagram over like what our philosophy is around fasting. And if we're pro or against it, and there's this misconception that we're like anti fasting. And it's like, no, it's just, we're anti-fasting for the, for trying to lose body fat.

It's not a good strategy for that. Yeah, so the big thing that people completely ignore, and the fitness industry does a terrible, actually a great job of ignoring this, are the psychological effects of particular diets, and they don't look at the long-term potential effects, right? If you look at the long-term effects of fasting as a weight loss strategy, it has about the same fail rate as any diet, right? Any diet, any popular diet, causes weight loss through reduction in calories. Same thing with fasting, right? You fast,

you skip meals, you don't eat as many calories, you lose weight. The problem is when you go into it with the idea of wanting to lose weight, you're already going into this approach with this kind of bad relationship of food. It's not a long-term approach because at some point you stop fasting because you're like, okay, I'm done, skipping meals or whatever. And then you end up going in the opposite direction,

you end up gaining the weight back and then some. And back in the day, by the way, I wanna say this, I've been training people and working with people and fitness professionally now for over two decades before they called it fasting. They used to call it skipping meals, skipping breakfast, skipping, and this is what people did all the time.

Obese people would do this all the time to try and lose weight and then they'd gain it back. Well, we have to kind of set boundaries and limiters out there because there are like real conditions, like interrexia, bulimia, and limiters out there because there are like real conditions like interrexia, bulimia, and like conditions out there. You do not want to tell them to get into fasting. That would be like the worst combination ever. And so to differentiate that, and there's value to it, but it's a totally different mindset

than going into it, just trying to, you know, improve your body composition, for instance. Now, do you guys think it's no better, no worse than any other diet? Yeah, I think it depends on the diet that we're comparing it to, but I think it's very similar. It's that kind of restrict mentality with the wrong route, I guess, motivation. Well, it's all diets, okay, the thing

that all diets have in common is what? They restrict calories. They restrict calories. Right, one way or another, whether you're actually counting the calories himself or you eliminate a carbohydrate, you eliminate a fat, you reduce protein, no matter what the diet is, the real formula behind all of them and why they work so well for the people that they work well for.

In the short term. Yeah. In the short term is that they reduce calories. So my question to you is that since that is the basic formula for all diets, is it any better or worse than any of them? Yeah, I don't think it's any necessarily any better or worse. I think now fast things have been around for thousands of years. It's part of almost all religious practices, especially the main, the biggest religious practices. But really it was about changing your relationship

to food through detachment, right? Detaching from worldly things. And this is a great practice. This is where I think fastings I love value. Because if you go into it with this detachment attitude, like I'm gonna detach myself from food for a second so that I can deal with my feelings and my emotions and look at my relationship to food.

Then it can be very valuable. Now, it doesn't work very well if your issue with food is that you're anorexic or bulimic because it just pushes you more in that direction. And if you're just a regular person trying to lose weight, you're not really learning any good strategies aside from just abstinence. And this tends to result in a binge reversal when you're done with it, which is why it's a terrible stretch. So yes, you lose weight in the beginning, but then when you go off,

just like all of the diets, you go in the opposite direction. Yeah, I like it for the fact that you can observe your behaviors more. When you remove yourself from your habits, right? And so like abstinence, I think it's a very important practice for disciplines in order to be able to really have a good look and assess, you know, what those behaviors look like. And that way I can tweak and alter those when I, you know, decide to implement them again. Now, what about the adaptation process of it? Like, there's a lot of people love this,

right? And I think why they like it's easy, right? There's not a lot of rules of rules too fasting the most successful diet so the ones and I don't mean success in terms of long term the ones that people buy into right always have like like one or two simple rules and I think that's why you get people that like it so much a lot of people like are we're almost already eating in a in a the smaller window they're like oh I already skip breakfast anyways now I just kind of stretch it out to about two o'clock like that's not hard. And so I think people like doing it because it's easier. Now, what about some of the pitfalls as far as your metabolism with doing a strategy like this? Do you think that the average person that follows a diet fasting versus a different diet that maybe you just pull out carbohydrates or something? Do you think you're more likely to reduce more calories than needed in fasting?

Because you're completely abstaining. That's a really good question. I think it depends to you on the context. If you're in a calorie deficit, you're always pushing your body to slow down its metabolism. Your body's always trying to adapt. But if you combine that with good strength training, resistance training, and protein's high, you can offset that a little bit. But you make a very good point, right? Cutting out food entirely might result in a larger calorie restriction than somebody who, let's say, says, I'm going to only eat whole natural foods or I'm going to cut carbs out, but I'm not

going to skip a bunch of meals. So I could definitely see that happening. And I've seen people, you know, fasting does over time, can cause a bit of a stress, so it can just calorie restriction, but fasting in particular. And they've actually done some studies that fasting in comparison to regular feeding windows with calorie restriction, so all of the things being controlled, fasting results in more muscle loss, in some cases, or not as much muscle gain.

Wasn't that a recent study? Yes it was. Yeah, that just came out, because we had talked about it before and I thought it would actually be more muscle-sparing than what it was, but it actually just, I think it was Lane who did. Was it Lane who shared that study? He did, he did share.

Now I do think that again, we're kind of like, now we're focusing on the which diet's best for fat loss. The diet that helps you develop the best relationship to food and the best practices and behaviors, not from a point of self hate or restriction, but rather like wanting to live this kind of healthy lifestyle. That's gonna be the best approach long term. So I don't care about the short term.

I mean, how many times have we seen clients do great in the short term and then do terrible in long term? What's all about the intent, it's the mindset that's going into it that matters and that's really what we're addressing. It's not necessarily that there are a lot of benefits the fasting. You just have to have the right mindset going into it. Now, do you guys think there is ideal ways for clients or yourself to use fasting? So we obviously use it.

I use fasting occasionally, intermittently, and I have taught clients to do it. Are there specific ways that you would tell them if you were encouraging them to try something like fasting? So there are certain types of clients I think that works really well with to help them with their food relationship, right? The person who's obsessed with needing to pack on size, the person that's afraid, this was me, right? I just eat, eat, eat, and then I was afraid to skip a meal.

Oh my God, if I skipped a meal, I'm not gonna gain any muscle or all my God. So for me, fasting was good in that sense because it helped me change my relationship food. Oh, I could skip a couple meals and it wasn't devastating to my physique. So that's when I would use it. When I'd get the guy who hired me, who's just eating way too much and is afraid to cut anything. And in those cases, I'd be like, let's try fast and for a couple of days, let me show you. Yeah, it's usually people that are eating continuously throughout the day.

So I have, I've had clients that like snack a lot too in between meals. And they just feel like they're paranoid that they're not going to have food like accessible and available to them. And so, you know, to just, even just skipping a meal for them a lot of times is like mind blowing that they're going to be okay. And this hunger sensation is actual hunger and it's not craving. So to differentiate between those two signals, I think is really an important thing to figure out. Totally. Now speaking of food, have you guys seen the news on the Beyond Meat company and all these companies that were, remember they were creating, it was like a big deal about it, we talked about our podcast, Franken meats. Maybe a year or

two ago, with all these plant-based meats that taste like burger or whatever. And sales were skyrocketing and all these fast food joints were so good to adopt it. We were very skeptical and we're like, I don't think this is going to work. Their sales are tanking. No way. Tanking. Why? Well, I mean, what we predicted, the fad and the novelty of it wore off.

I mean, you're going to eat a product. But tanking? I mean, I would have thought it would be like a slow. It's like 14 14 15% drop and the stock is just plummeting because the novelty's up like. First of all, you're creating a product really though that I mean a 14 15% drop is normally like bad news came out. That's normally like somebody died from a impossible burger. No, this is sink is it was in like all these fast food chains were certain to at least yes for that is is an option

Most of them have it now When you see like a like falling out of favor, right? You'll see like a slow gradual decline, right? No Look at a fall off the cliff is normally yeah I'll read the title here. It says beyond me had a disastrous third quarter with sales declining by 14% And net loss is mounting to 51.8 million compared to the loss of 19 million. What? The previous year. Okay.

And if I'm not mistaken, we talked about this on a previous podcast. You're creating a product that's trying to copy as close as it possible to kind of another product. So it's trying to be identical. What are the benefits of it? Well, first off, there are none. It's got a million ingredients to one. So it's ground beef versus this engineered food. Number two, the macros were identical. So it wasn't like you were getting less calories, less scrams of fat, or

whatever, it was identical calories. Well, they marketed it as a healthier option, which wasn't true. Not true. And so really the only benefit, I guess, if, you know, in your true eating game, you know, well, is the cruelty part, right? That's it. That was the only benefit, I guess, if you know, in your true climate change thing. Well, is the cruelty part, right? That's it. That was the only thing that was the difference. Oh, I thought they tried to go the climate change angle more than anything. They were trying to do all that, but it doesn't,

people, burger eaters don't really care. I mean, the novelty wore off. Everybody tried it. And then everybody went back to it. Wow, I didn't know that. That's all recent right now. That's all happening, yeah, right now. It's kind of tanking.

You know, we talked about that. We did speculate that I wish, I wish, I don't know how short a stock all recent right now. That's all happening right now. It's kind of taking. You know, we talked about that. We did speculate that I wish, I don't know how short a stock, I've never shorted a stock before. That would have been a good one to short. I've never shorted a stock myself. That would have been a great,

I mean, that shit, we could have. Wow, it does, we should have. We should have pulled it 19%. Yeah, we got look. But I mean, think about, like, first off, you're a fast food eater. That's where a lot of their sales went, right? Yeah.

They don't really care, I think. They like the taste. I don't know about you guys, but I've never They don't really care, I think. They like the taste. I don't know about you guys, but I've never gone for health. Yeah, I've never gone to a burger place. Like, oh, I'm gonna get the health, like, I'm gonna, this is for my health. Like, I want some.

Now, none of you guys have even tried it, right? I don't think you have, probably. I haven't actually was curious to try it, but I have you. I have you. I actually tried something. I was at a friend's house and they pulled out. It's like, actually.

No, they pulled out these burgers and they were the beyond meat or possible burger, that type of thing. And to me, it didn't taste anything like beef, personally. Oh, really? Yeah, but I don't know which one they had bought, but I was not impressed, and I wasn't very happy with them, to be honest.

Oh, and they do a good job of making it look like it. Like that picture looks like a burger. It's the closest that they've ever got before, right? The, the, it's the club. And one of the secrets was the bloodiness. Right. They do like squeeze it and some beet juice comes out that looks like blood.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's why that was why everybody was excited. Because like, oh my god, this is as close as they've ever got.

But I'm like, okay, if the, maybe if the calories were lower and it tastes similar, but the macros were identical, it was nothing better about it. And then consumers aren't as stupid as people think. You're looking at like, okay, here's a beef burger, it's beef, here's the ingredient. Have you, look at the ingredient list on the list.

Yeah, there's a lot. It's like super engineered food. Yeah. And most people know that that's probably not better for you. So again, unless you're just a vegan, but that market's already kind of tapped. I don't think that's a huge market. I don't think it's growing.

Vegan of food, what did you guys think of the food at the party? Oh, hey, happy birthday. That was a great party. That was a great food, right? Unbelievable food. Yeah, I was my sister and a long brother-in-law. They, so we were hiring a chef and we were doing this whole champagne theme, right?

So Katrina looked up like all the foods that pair well with champagne and then she started looking for chefs to do it and we got some crazy quota water and her sister found out that she was doing this and she's like, no, let me do it for Adam's birthday. Like he loves our cooking anyways and she's like, I'll go all out. I promise.

And Katrina was like, I really want to make this kind of over the top and special for him. And she's like, no, no, let us do it. So I didn't know any of what was coming. And then they show up. And I mean, they got, they had the full suit. I was going to ask you about that because I've met them before. I didn't know they had any culinary, you know, like, cereal background. They don't, I mean, they cooked their ass off, right?

They played the part, it was amazing. I know, I thought that was so nice. The presentation too. Yeah, I thought that was so nice of them to do that. They like totally went all out on it. It was a great experience. You know what I really liked? I mean, all of it was really good.

But they had, now look like prosciutto, but it wasn't prosciutto. It was a Spanish, like, dried meat. I don't know what it was called. Cicero no ham, I believe. Is that what it is? It was really good. I thought that was bruschetta. That wasn't bruschutto. It was a Spanish dried meat. I don't know what it was called. Cicero no ham, I believe. Is that what it is? It was really good. I thought that was bruschetta.

That wasn't bruschetta. What is it? No, a prosciutto. A prosciutto or whatever. It was a big old ham leg. Yeah. You could carve it off yourself. It's not a salty.

She said she got that at Costco. Get out. Yeah, I actually didn't even have, I didn't have none of that. There was so much food. A lot of the time I get the rib eyes. The ribs were the best, though. The ribs were my favorite. The sauce that he did it in was so good. There was so much food. I lost it, I didn't get the rib eyes. The ribs were the best, the ribs were my favorite. Crazy, the sauce that he did it in was so good.

It was totally different. Yeah, so did you have a good time? I said, you had, okay, here's the, I know you. I know having tons of people, especially at your house, and you're not, you're a bit of a dichotomy, you're often the center of attention, but don't necessarily like to be the center of attention with something like that.

Like, you don't want everybody looking at you and talking about you. And this was your party. At one point, it was a big video about you. How did you feel? Yeah, you know, that's a funny question, right? Because you're right. There's a part of me that doesn't mind being the center of attention for certain things, but for other things, I don't.

That's weird. Right. So, I don't do good with gift free, but Katrina, she knows me so well. So like, I didn't open any presents in front of anybody, so she didn't make a big spend. She did wanna show me the video that Eli did, which was so cool.

That was such a cool video that he had made. It was just all the blooper, all the bloopers from Mind Pump and so, that was a really nice surprise. That was fun. But yeah, she did a really nice surprise. That was fun. Yeah, she did a really good job. She knows me.

She knows to not put me on the spot in the spotlight like that too much and just kind of let me do my thing and hang back. Plus, I was probably pretty drunk by that time, so I wasn't really thinking too much about it. I mean, we went out the night before. So Friday night, she had set up a five star Michelin dinner over in Carmel. That was an amazing experience. And the four of us polished three bottles of wine off. And then the next day we jump out of a plane

in the morning. Oh, yeah. Skydive. And then we have a birthday party later on. So are you? So she invited all of us for you in your birthday to Skydive. And I was like, no, I'm not going to go. But I know Justin went. So is it, do you want to do it again? Is it fun? Like what's the deal? Uh, yeah, it was fun. I don't know if I'd do it again. I mean, I, it was kind of like one of those things that you thought about.

Maybe I'll do this at some point in my life, but I had no urgency to do it. But like, just, just stepping up and getting into it was, it was a blast. It was, it was way more easy than jumping in a f16 that was it now was it what you expected because it wasn't anything I expected it wasn't like what I anticipate it was like you know it wasn't so okay so explain that what do you mean about what you thought well I thought I so I thought that I thought I'd be

more nervous and scared I really did I thought like because there's a long, like, do we were there for almost three hours before we even got to get out of the plane? So, I mean, I thought just that anticipation of, like, I gotta do this, was going to, like, make me all nervous, but I wasn't. I mean, I was with, like, seven of my family and friends, and so we were just laughing, having a good time. And I kept waiting for, like, oh, pretty soon here,

I'm gonna get really nervous, because it's gonna get closer and closer at that time. Yeah. I never really felt that. And I had a little bit of it right before literally jumping out because they put you on this, I swear to God, the planes know wider than this and know taller than that. Yeah, you just and they have to everybody. It looks like a, you know, not a two by, but a big piece of wood almost like as a first seat. That's really this wide. It's a rip, everybody. It looks like a, you know, not a two by, but a big piece of wood almost like as a first seat. That's really this wide. It's just a long bench.

Yeah, a long bench and you straddle it like this and you're literally, you know, nuts to butt all the way to the front, the back of the plane, that tight. Like you're, I'm touching the shoulder, the person next to me. I'm touching the wall here. I was in some little French dudes. Yeah. Yeah.

No, literally. That's only the third time. It's going to be okay. So, literally. That's only the third time. So I feel so we're right now. The part that was probably the most nerve wracking was, you know, and he's he's he's every once in a while he reaches his watch over in front of me so I could see the elevation. I know we're going up to hugging you at the same. Oh, no, we actually lifted me and sat my butt in his crotch so he could strap me as tight as I could You let him do it because you wanted to be

Yeah, I'm not trying to be So he's telling me right and you're watching 14 15,000 and we're going to 18,000 right? So this is the highest tandem jump in the world So there's none higher than this in the entire world and so you're watching him get you know 16 17 We get to 18,000 as soon as 18,000 hits, the front just goes, whew, he lifts it up and people just, and I got about 10 people in front of me before I go. And you're strapped in with his boots,

so you're like scooting on the thing all the way down and people, boom, boom, boom. Was there anybody left there kind of ushering you out? Cause there's nobody left ushering me out. No, I was the last on my side. And then there was two other people after me, but on the other side. And it just went so fast.

But the time of, you know, they open it and people start going out, that I got, that was the most anxiety that I had. Like what is? Oh yeah, here it is, here it is. And then you just don't have much time to think. Once you get up there, your feet are ready, he dumps you out, you go.

I grabbed my head, tilt it back, push me out, we went. And then I thought, if you guys ever been, you didn't even do roller coasters my head, tilt it back, pushed me out, we went. And then I thought, if you guys ever been, you didn't even do roller coasters or no? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so at Great America, you have the edge or drop zone. Okay, so when you do that ride, I mean, I've done a thing a hundred times and every time it gets you that, yeah, right? So we have a 90-second free fall. I thought I was going to be 90 seconds. That's what I was kind of anticipating. It did not feel like that at all. The minute he jumped out of the plane, all the anxiety went away, and now it was just you're, you know, dropping till you reach Termal Vosy and you're, it's the wind is flying up in your face so much. You're just trying to breathe. And so I'm like breathing through my nose. Like it dude with a hose was just blasting you air.

Just shh. Yeah, you almost feel like you're holding your breath. It was too much. And. So they could give you anxiety. No, that part wasn't. It was just at that point I'm just trying to breathe normal. And you feel like you're floating.

Do you can't breathe though? You don't feel like you're falling. You don't feel like you're falling. And the only part that was scary, so this scariest part for me was actually I would have never had thought this at all. So he's got me all harnessed in. We dropped for 90 seconds, parachute pulls, and that's a jerk and a half, because you're doing 130 miles an hour,

it slows you to 15 miles an hour instantly, right? So that's like, oh, yanks you back. And then afterward, falling for a few seconds, he's like, all right, all right, you go good, I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. And he's like, okay, I'm going to loosen you up a little bit so you get more comfortable. And so he starts loosening the straps around my thighs, around my chest, which is what's holding me to this guy. Totally disconsensable. And so the initial release, I drop.

And I'm, I mean, I'm looking straight down and you can't see him behind you. And then he's loosening the straps that are holding you to him. So that part, like that was the most I was like, oh we're good dude I'm cool. I'm not uncomfortable at all. So that part was a little nerve-racking for me Did you guys get hit the ground hard like? So I had to land on my butt Oh, we're fine What about Slay was like

Oh, I land on some sticker bus What a bounce. It was like, Bowing, BONG, BONG, BONG, BONG. Oh wow. And I lay on some sticker bus. Anyway. But yeah, like the first part though for me, like I could have done without, I'll be honest with you. Like it only because we're crouching, we're kind of going towards the edge near where the wing was.

And you know, I'm like kind of looking out and I was kind of like tripping as I was like, because the wind started to get me and I started to kind of fall over and I was kind of like tripping as I was like, cause the wind started to get me and I started to kind of fall over and I caught myself right before we jumped. And then so I was like, in that state of you know when you're about to fall,

like oh, oh shit. And then I never really got regained my balance. So we just kept going. It felt like I kept falling that whole time, you know? So my body was just like, ah! And I just, I don't know, I was having like a panic attack and then like, I couldn't breathe.

But then once we got the shoot open, it was like, dude, it was serene. It was like, you could see like everything up there. And then he let us steer it in, which was really cool. That was my favorite part. Yeah, that was the best part. Yeah, of course. I know it's really rare for someone to actually

extremely safe in the US to Skydive. The death rates are super, super low. Nonetheless, I was still worried, right? I got two of my business partners jumping out of a plane. I'm like texting you guys, let me know when you land. Nobody's responding. Oh, you know, but yeah. But it's very, very safe, but still for me, no.

I'm not going to jump out of a plane. I have no desire to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. Yeah, I guess, you know, it's not much off. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, it's not, I probably, okay, if I, the only way I would do it again is if, you know, when Max is 18 and he goes, Dad, I really want to jump out of a plane.

Like, I'd rally for him. Now, could you imagine though, the very rare events that people, like, something doesn't work? They get a long time to think about that they're gonna die, right? Cause you fall out and then you're like, oh no, okay.

Well, I actually, part of what probably makes it really safe too is that, well, first of all, I think they have two parachutes or they have a backup parachute. And then I would hope these, so they're all like ex, you know, Rangers and seal guys and like 8,000 plus jumps. So I would hope if ours didn't, there'd be some sort of a hand signal you give to another guy

and they probably fly over to you. I even watched too much mission impossible. Well, you know, I feel like, I mean, the camp, I mean, so you have an option to... Dude, the camera goes jack. Yeah, you have an option to give like a second cameraman, so you have multiple angles. And so I had that.

So I had the guys attached me and then I had another dedicated guy that's just filming me. and he had full control. I mean, he fly below us above us because he had kind of like a wingsuit on him. Oh, wow. So he and he came over grabbed my arm for a second, let go of it, swung around, shot me from the side. So I imagine if our shoot didn't open up, he could, you know, come in and bear up.

You had to go around the other side. Yeah. Who was that? Who did that? That's hilarious. Yeah, it's Todd. He other side. Yeah, what was that? Who did that? That's hilarious. Yeah, it's Todd. He was definitely Todd.

Yeah, he had Todd energy. You said that the camera guy was real jacked. Yeah, it was Jackie. We were waiting around. It was kind of funny because he was in a tank top. He had big old arms. He does. He has this like flat top and he's just like, I on your camera guy.

You know, and I'm like, I'm out of here. I thought for sure out of irony that guy was going to be on my back. I was so disappointed in Justin, he couldn't give me a point break quote, dude. I'm like, dude, you know all of these, he froze on me because I wanted to do a, I wanna say, yeah, like Johnny Utah, like I don't remember any like exact, I've only seen the movie once.

What? Yeah, only one time. Really, dude. I've only seen it once. Oh, that's a must-watching. I know, I know. Hey, dude, I gotta tell you, dude one. I this is so crazy to me. So I this weekend, I dived deep into supplement land and hormone land. And I was reading about so I've talked about this before, but in the

early 2000s, this is such a typical weekend of us, you and I jumped out of a plane. Salas reading studies. Like crazy. Okay. So I I'm gonna give a little bit of history here. So in the late 90s, mid to late 90s, pole hormones hit the market. Androestanidione, DHA. So these are hormones that have to get converted by the body to other active hormones, right? So Androestanidione can be turned into testosterone.

I think it can be turned into estrogen or whatever. It was a big deal. They turned out to be nothing. Like if you got normal testosterone, whatever you take, andro, it's not gonna give you any benefit. But nonetheless, it was a big deal because it was a hormone, right?

That you could buy over the counter. Well anyway, the supplement market, they get really smart. And so they start to create, quote unquote, other pro hormones that have like actual action in the body. Now I was in the, you're talking now the early 2000s. I'm still a young kid, I'm in my 20s, basically. And I'm reading these articles, these supplement articles,

and I'm like, oh pro hormone, it's safe for whatever. Well, it turns out they weren't, right? So these were what these supplement companies did is they went through old pharmaceutical company rejects. So pharmaceutical companies in the 1950s, 60s and 70s were coming up with testosterone alternatives, quote, unquote, anabolic steroids. And many of them didn't make it to market.

What the supplement companies did is they looked at these old chemicals and said, oh, cool, they're gray market, there's no laws against them. We can sell them as prohormones, but they're actually active. Okay, so where am I going? In the side effects. So check this out, right? So two of my favorite quote unquote prohormones in my early 20s that I used many, many times.

One was called super draw, and another one was called methyl one testosterone. Okay. And the reason why they were my favorites is because when I took them, I'd gain like 15 pounds. I'd get jacked and get hell of strong. It's a methyl-1, isn't that the one that had like the little molecule like symbol in the front of it? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Molecular nutrition might have been one of them.

Yeah, right? Yes. So you'd gain like all this, like real fast, like four or five weeks, just gurgling, get real big and strong. Like, oh, this is so cool. I'm taking a pro hormone. Anyway, I'm reading articles and shins. Now they're illegal. They had they pass laws to make these illegal. Well, it turns out they were actual steroids. And when you now a days,

bodybuilders and power lifters, there's on all these four, I went on all these forums and there there's all these debates as to whether or not super Draw, Methyl-1 Testosterone is more effective than Anardrawl, Dianable, Classic steroids. And apparently these guys are saying, oh yeah, Super Draw is the strongest oral you could take. That shit was over the counter. I was taking that back in the day and I thought it was totally safe.

I don't know if I've shared this in the pockets. I think I've told you guys before, there was a product that was same thing, but it was trend, and it was called, like, trim-alone or something like that, or super-trend. I don't even remember what the name of it was, but I had the same experience. It was the most amazing over-the-counter drug that I had ever taken for gaining muscle.

It's also the first time that I ever experienced guino. So it actually, and I had before, I had taken steroids. So I'd taken steroids in my early 20s. This is like mid, I'd say 25 to 27 range when I took this. And I had worse side effects from that over the counter pro hormone than I did from taking real steroids. That's how strong it was.

It's crazy, because I was watching this videos on YouTube with these competitive power lifters and bodybuilders. And literally the conversation was super draw versus anodrol. Anodrol is an old school steroid. Bodybuildism taking for a long time known to be real harsh and strong. These guys were like, oh, super draws way stronger. I'm like, holy cow dude, we were taking that.

We were buying that at the local supplements store. So like nothing. Isn't like, some sort of the new version taking that, we were buying that at the local supplements store. So like nothing. Isn't like, Sarm's sort of the new version of that, except the, I mean, I don't know about the side effects and all that, but I'm sure that it's just not as tested. Sarm's are not steroids, but they're chemicals that attach

to the Androgen receptor and cause similar kind of actions, but you're right, at least these antibiotics have decades of research and have been used. Sarm's are kind of like, we don't know really at least these antibiotics have decades of research and have been used. Sarms are kind of like, we don't know, really, with the long-term necessary effects are of them. And you know why people buy them?

Kids, they're a gray market, you can buy them online. You can get them online. Believe me, a super droll and methyl one testosterone was still available online. I'm pretty sure nobody would buy Sarms. They would still be sticking to this other, crazy, strong stuff or whatever. Speaking of YouTube, did you see YouTube's taken off

the dislike? The thumbs down now? Off the phone. Oh no, I heard they're not taking it off. It's a motivation behind that. They're not taking it off. They're going and they're pulling people who that's all they do.

Oh, I thought they were taking it off. They're taking it off. Oh yeah, no, I read the same article. Maybe I misinterpreted it. The way I interpreted it was, there, because there's a lot of kind of bot accounts and accounts that are going around. We have the same five or four thumbs down that we,

on every video, and it's like almost insulated. You're all right, girl friends. Yeah, it's Justin. It's Justin. Yeah, it's Justin. It's not me, I promise you. Like, we get four every time we post a video, no matter how amazing the video is, it gets four thumbs down,

and I think it gets it right away. So, oh, no, here's what it is. So, this is on the verge, and the title is YouTube gives dislikes the thumbs down. So, hides public accounts. So, creators will still be able to see how many people dislike their videos, but it's not going to be private. I'm, excuse me, that can be public. Oh, interesting.

So, the public won't see how many dislikes. So, didn't they try the same thing with Instagram and it never took off. Remember they had all the they they were hiding likes. So the again, the creator, the person who had the page, I could see how many likes I'm getting. But Justin couldn't come onto my page and see how many likes. Photo got right. Right. So we'll be highly at that.

But it never seemed to get any legs. Well, so do you hear the conspiracy theory on it? Oh, it's so there's a conspiracy theory, right? So so first off, this one off, they're gonna hide the, that you're getting too many dislikes. That's right. That, yeah, because, what?

Because this is the conspiracy theory. Biden will give a speech or fouch, he will talk about something and it'll get like a hundred thousand dislikes, like, you know, 2000 likes or whatever. And so that's the conspiracy theory, is that the idea? Now, is this for sure happening? Are they gonna pilot it?

Just like they do with the Instagram thing and do creators have some saying it like, okay, it says here that it looks like they're gonna do it. That's really stupid to me because as a consumer of YouTube, I guess as a creator, okay, whatever, but as a consumer, like when I'm looking for a topic that I want to learn about,

and I see five videos recommend to me, the one that got most, the ratio of thumbs up to thumbs down is normally what dictates whether I watch it or not, because I want something that is mostly thumbs up or got a majority of thumbs up. I'm not gonna go watch a video that's 50, 50, where it's like, oh, that's a crapshoot of this gonna be a deal.

Right, and did they do that to change the algorithms so they could, you know, sort of promote what they want to promote easier so that we don't see it. So maybe, I mean, cause think about it, if they really wanted to, like, stop the trolling, they'd get rid of comments, not that thumbs down, nobody gives a shit about the thumbs down. I mean, well, they want that engagement though, right?

Yeah, but the comments is where you see all the crazy trolls and stuff like that, thumbs up, thumbs down, whatever. And I agree with you Adam, I think it's a great way for consumers to see what videos are good or bad or. I think there's something to that though, if you're just like such a negative contributor, like you've just done all thumbs down, your negative, so that's a video.

I feel like that is like something. So that's what I thought they were gonna try and police a little bit, which I'm like, whatever, because I've found a feature on YouTube before that I didn't know existed. So one of the things that I, and we've talked about off air about this, because we razz each other so much and talk shit,

sometimes we have like fans that are like, they wanna talk the same way, and obviously online, it's not always received that way. You don't know, like, is this person just being playful? Or are they being a dick? And there's been times where I fire back at somebody kind of like talking shit, probably a little harder than I would if I knew you were a fan and a consumer of our content, right?

I think they're just trolling me. And so I'm like, oh, fuck you, I'm gonna put this person in their place. And then I do, and they're like, whoa, whoa, sorry, bro, I love the show. I'm like, oh, now their place. And then I do and they're like, whoa, whoa, sorry bro, I love the show, I'm like, I'm kidding. So now on YouTube, there's a feature

that if someone, whoever's commenting, you can click on their name and it'll show you everything they've ever commented on your channel. So now I can go back and then, so this is now how I decide if I'm gonna roast some. Oh, it's always good things. Yeah, like if, yeah, they're just teasing one thing, right?

If he's just making fun of my calves or saying, make it a comment on something I'm wearing this one time. And then I look back and he's commented several other times and the other time is, oh, you guys, this program's amazing. Oh, I love you guys. And then it's like that one, okay, I'm just gonna, whatever. But if it's someone who's like, I look back and I see,

oh, this motherfucker, every time he posts on this thing, he is talking mad shit about one of us or something. So they don't get after me. Now the conspiracy theory for me is interesting because here's one of the reasons why I think it's interesting. Like rotten tomatoes. Okay. Recently, rotten tomatoes has been this upside down flipped

like the what do they call the people that analyze movie. Critics. The critics completely opposite from the public. Chappelle special, for example. Yeah. Critics, oh my god, it's terrible. 90% rating. It's a faulty documentary. Fouchy documentary.

Critics, this is the best documentary of all time. Most people this suck, this is total propaganda. So to me, this conspiracy theory, and that thing, it's true, but I could see where people would believe it. You have some form of doubt there. Yeah, because there's a lot of videos right there. Or the government comes out and says something, and this is doubt there. Yeah, because there's a lot of videos right there. Right, right, right. Or, you know, the government comes out and says something

and this is the greatest thing ever. Maybe this is a little bias. Tons of thumbs down and a few, you know, thumbs up. And I'm like, I wonder if, you know, that maybe that's where it came. My prediction is that it doesn't last. I don't think they stick with it. I think consumers like it. Because consumers like it too much.

I think that's part of the reason why Instagram and other two get it. And by the way, it's because you have a say. I think Instagram, it makes way more sense than YouTube YouTube like Instagram is not used as a search engine. It's a popularity contest Yeah, so I think that it's a it's a cesspool that will avenge you're saying that the dislike is even more important there Yeah, so I think that the the the hearts. That's what I mean the likes that you can see I think people not seeing that that's probably healthier for our society it doesn't have, it doesn't give you as a viewer. Like you go on someone's page and whether their last picture got 10,000 likes or five likes,

doesn't change the value of the content for you or your mind. Not nearly as much as you do. No, YouTube is a search engine. Like you search to learn about something for the most part, right? I mean, most people are, I mean, I know there are some people that are consuming like entertainment stuff, but for the most part, you're trying to learn something and so you use it for that. And the likes and dislikes has tremendous value

on deciding whether I want to listen to it or not. Back to the sort of 10 foil stuff here. I read this article, I think it was on Yahoo that basically, so the next thing that we should all be concerned with according to Bill Gates and we should have these sort of germ type of like reenactment scenarios, right? Germ drills. I forget what they actually call them, but basically the next one was that we should be concerned

with terrorists in airports weaponizing smallpox. Oh, nice. So I thought that was interesting, concerning, I'm gonna pay attention, but also to the last four months, I guess the FDA approved a new drug for smallpox. That's good time. That's another sort of interesting fun fact to get. It's like straight out of the movie 007, we just watched.

I know, right? Isn't it smallpox? They weaponized. Oh my god. You know what, you're dealing with? Isn't it smallpox that they, they weaponized? Oh my God. You know what that's like, you're DNA. They are living in a movie. I don't know.

I'm not like super privy on all the like Bill Gates, hate and conspiracy stuff, but I am, I do know that that before COVID, they, I mean, not too far before COVID, they talk specifically about a coronavirus breakout and what it would look like. That's why I think they're getting a lot of like people. Even a TED talk and everything about it a long time ago and it was more like just sort of

awareness of like, you know, globally, we need to be able to, you know, just, you know, to play like it's to be the reasonable side of it is like, you know, he had a lot of concern over, you know, there being a pandemic, you know, on some virus form that was kind of like the corona. So why, I'm gonna play devil's advocate a little bit with the Bill Gates thing. Like why would he want to put misinformation out there? What is the motive that he has? Not you would think it's to be richer,

but the guy gives away more money than almost anybody else in the US. I'm not super privy on it, but from what I've read, the thing is that Bill Gates is like this, you know, like what's the bane of the super intelligent successful, right, that they know better than everybody? They're there, I'm here to save the world. He's an elitist.

And he's made comments that we need to shrink the population. In order to save future generations, we use Genics-esque comments he's made. We have to like decrease the population. In order to save future generations, re-ugenics, exclamations, we have to decrease the population. And so then that's kind of the roots of some of this stuff, right? Like, oh, they want people to die. They only want smart people to live. They want to kill these types of people. That's some of the stuff that I read, but I don't know.

Okay, so it's because I was trying to get, normally, it's like the motive is money. It's normally the motive is to get enriched from something like this. I'm sure that the politicians that are pushing the vaccine have got stock and pie's in some of that. That makes- He does have some incentive there, right?

Right, that makes the plan. Yeah, but that's why I was playing Devils Advocate with him, because he's one of the guys who gives, if he wants to be richer, he just hold on to some of his money. You know, try and get richer just so you can give away more of your money. I think I give away to him. I think after you making billions of dollars, it's not about money anymore.

It's about winning or power. Yeah. How can I have more influence and more power? That's why they want to fly to Mars or be the first private person on the moon or like, it's not about money anymore. Now it's like, how do I flex? I'm already a billion.

I'm gonna do this on behalf of everybody else because I know more than that. You know what the problem is with these conspiracy theories? A lot of them keep kind of turning a little bit true. Okay, no, this is true. It is. Did you know, this is real now. People are spending $8,000 a dose right now

for teenage blood. Did you know this is real thing now? What? People are asking for teenage blood. Talk, you know anything about this? I'm not even doing that. You know nothing of this. You know nothing about this?

This is real. I'm gonna look this up. This is a real thing. Look at this. People are spending $7,940 a pop for individual shots of teenage blood. There's a company called Ambrosia. How do they give up with that price? That's just the cost of the, that's just the average cost of this

or what? $7,940. Yeah. So that's why I say $8,000. We're going to sell these teenagers blood. Why is you at charge? Let's do $7,940. Apparently, it's because in mice, they show that young blood injected to older mice, the older mice start to show more signs of youth and energy. I mean, there's so many conspiracy theories around. There's so many experiments like this with multiple animals where they've shown that, you know, transfusions with young blood actually like reverse.

This has to be, this has to be one of the best times to be like a sci-fi writer or something. You know what I'm saying? It's like lay up the worst. No, I lay up the worst. You think it's a worst? Bro, if you're a conspiracy theorist. You didn't want these times to be like a sci-fi writer or something. You know what I'm saying? It's like lay up the worst. It's like lay up the worst. You think it's a worst? Bro, if you're a conspiracy theorist. You didn't want these things to be true.

Is my point. No, so I think I look, I think conspiracy theorists like having conspiracy theories. Yeah, but then when they start to come true, they're all freaking out right now. I guarantee you the worst years for conspiracy theories have been the last couple of years. Totally.

They're in the room like, now everything comes out. You know, you just, because now they're thinking all these other crazy ass ideas like have validity to them. And so it's like, before it's kind of fun, like it's entertaining, you know, to think. Okay, so you, that's why I'm on the inside. And he's, nobody knows this crazy stuff behind the curtain.

But now like, you know, a lot of these things coming true. It's like, oh my god, but now what if this happens? You know, see, I don't know if I believe that. I feel like, I think if you write like, oh my God, but now what if this happens? You know, I don't know if I believe that. I feel like, I think if you write like a movie like that, I think there's a big part of you that believes it. I mean, I think that's why it comes, I think that's why it's such, it's so well written.

Like when a good futuristic movie or conspiracy theory comes out, I don't think those people are like, oh, this will be fun. Let's just think of some random ideas that might have a few. I think it's like, this is where we're going. Yeah, how much in movies would you say, have you seen or would you think that is actually like stuff

that they're just kind of preparing you for in terms of like technology or things that they already know, but the public doesn't know. See, here's what I think. I think that there's different levels of conspiracy theorists. There's the ones that really believe it and you know through their actions.

Oh, I have a bunker and I have a getaway thing and we live off the grid. And then there's the majority of conspiracy theorists which like to speculate, think it's fun, but they don't really think this shit is gonna go down and they're all freaking out right now. Like I belong to a lot of these kind of economics groups on Facebook and they're all kind of based on Austrian economics and free markets and they've been talking about

the currencies, you know, the currencies crashing for a long time. Well, they're all freaking out right now because this shit looks like it's about to happen to everyone. With all this money that they're printing and I'm like, oh my god, it actually looks like my deliberate. You're like, what's going on? I know. It's kind of hilarious. It's kind of not. No, it's not. It's kind of hilarious.

It's scary. Not at the same time. You ever when I brought up, by the way, this is a little left turn here, but we brought up, I brought up the McDonald's T. So I had multiple people that like worked for McDonald's that messaged me and they're like, oh, you were right. It's not as well measured as far. They dump a three pound bag of sugar into the tea mix. Wow.

So, you know, however they come up with their number for the macros on the website and stuff like that and like what's really happening in the place, because I tell you, when I had my first experience of tasting that thing, it literally tastes like sugar. Just sugar and then you have a little bit of tea inside of that. Just got done beauty. So somebody confirmed that.

Well, speaking of things that taste good, so my daughter, she's 12, and she just got braces about a month ago. But they're doing some pretty extensive work in her mouth, so they're opening her palate, and there's a bar in the middle of her mouth You know upper jaw on bottom one and poor girl like she's going through this phase right now of it because it's early Where eating is very hard her teeth don't even meet So she can't really chew on anything and it sucks. I'm trying to figure out how to help her She's in pain or whatever. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start using the organifi vanilla chalk the vanilla protein powder and start making smoothies.

I'll let you guys know because she's like anti anything that's a supplement. I think she's just rebelling against her dad. Now does she do okay with milk and all that? Yes. So I've been giving her milk, scrambled eggs because she can, because eggs are easy. I've been giving her like a, you know, vitamin to take to make sure nutrients are high, but meat is real hard. She got to cut it in tiny little pieces, making soups,

but I'm gonna start making her some old-school smoothies and I'm gonna sneak in. If she sees me put the protein powder in, she won't have it. So I'm gonna make it on the side, and then sneak in some vanilla or something. Did you see the mine pump memes that he made of you with the organify

That's that CGI app or whatever is that an app Justin is like the doctor fankingstein kind of yeah You didn't see the one he did of you. Yeah, it's like mixing your organify up or what about that and then the rock one deep deep fake Kind of a so good. It is so good It's amazing like where it's at right now on I'm assuming your phone or you can just download that if you've done mess with that app It's a phone. It's amazing like where it's at right now. I'm assuming you're phone or you can just download that. Have you done the mess with that app? It's the phone. It's a phone app. Oh wow.

Oh, so there was this movie. It was on Netflix. It, you know, the one with the rock and with Ryan Reynolds. It was red. It was called that red card, but red something. Yeah, red something. Red's carlet, red. No, I saw it.

They were watching it. It was good. It's Gal Gadot, Ryan Reynolds and the rock. It's real records. So yeah, so you saw in that one scene, so they were able to kind of digitally map his face and then face swap, you know, on the other side with his, I think it's red. Yeah, so it's like it. So then it recognized his face and his characteristics and the way he delivered that voice. But it's getting to that point now, where like technology can kind of pinpoint

all these little, you know, minute gestures of your face and be able to like create. Fakes like that. Speaking of which, by the way, that was a good movie. I liked it. Speaking of which, you know, when they switched over the phones to face recognition, they were like, oh, it's so much better.

It's not. Do you know how smart, you know what when they switched over the phones to face recognition, they were like, oh, it's so much better. It's not. Do you know how smart, you know what my kids do? What? So if they want to go through my phone, if I'm taking an app or something, they'll just hold the phone up to my face and then they can open my phone. It's so much harder with a thumbprint.

Just FYI. Why do kids always find only crazy? Oh, no, don't trick me. Like, they'll have my phone. And they'll be like, hey, look over here. And then I'll, and then I won't even know what they did. I'll just like, well, I want me to look. And then they'll open my phone. Bro, they could do that like Apple Pay, they're be like, hey, look over here. And then I'll, and then I won't even know what they did. I'll just like, well, I want me to look and then they'll open my phone. Bro, they could do that like Apple Paylor just like, yeah, yeah, I want this.

Oh, hey, dad, say cheese. Yeah. Little. I never thought of that. Yeah. That's pretty. Well, you know, it's weird about that too, because yeah, there was, uh, uh, so Courtney has it.

So her, it's all set up for her thumbprint and everything for the iPad. And like, so they can't make any purchases in app. And so like, Everett figured out that like, if he just like moves his, his thumb enough, like his thumbprint's pretty close to her as apparently. He was able to now purchase things like dude, so we had to change the whole thing. So he couldn't do that. Oh my God. He was hacking in and yeah, he was getting all these like songs on Spotify and all

the stuff. Wow. Hey, speaking of purchases, by the way, just want to mention one of our sponsors, NCI, did you see their money back guarantee that he's going? Yeah, well, we talked about it. And I think that he got it. I think this is why he's bringing it up again right now. It's because we talked about how crazy it is that he does this whole money back guarantee

if he can't, doesn't get you up to $10,000. But I think he's doing like a zero down thing with it now, isn't he? Yeah, that wasn't like that before. So essentially what you invest, I don't know exactly how it works, but you'll invest a certain amount for this high level of coaching,

but you don't pay it, or you get it back if you don't make $10,000 within a month or something like that of working with them, or in other words, in a month, when you're first months. That's a crazy guarantee. Because the way they did it before was,

you had the total, like what it would cost for a year, and you paid half of it up front, and then you did not get billed on the other half until you hit 10K. And now it's zero down. Is that what it is? That's what it says in the notes. Oh, wow.

So he's really confident. And he's had a lot of success with a lot of these coaches and trainers. I tell you what, that's a no brainer if you ask me. Yeah, if somebody says to me, if you don't make this amount of money, you'll get your, I mean, you have this kind of a win-win.

There's no way you could lose. Oh, yeah. They're passionately working on, you know, making that achievable. And it's like, it's everything's so actionable. And they like make you like take action immediately, like put you on the spot. Well, we're slated to go speak at one of their events. And is it December? Yeah, first week of December, I think.

Yeah, so we have some of their top coaches. And I think it's in Arizona. And should be like 172 under coaches and trainers. Yeah, I hope you find Adam and I are be like a hundred and seventy two hundred coaches and trainers. Yeah, I'll be fun. Adam and I are going to go out and we're going to speak on rally the truth on different. Yeah, topic talk trash about you and Doug. Yeah, it's not what we do. I soon as much. Yeah, you know what? I love doing that more than anything because I connect the most with I think tugging. That's it. You love that too. It's a great past time. You like speaking to trainers is your favorite. I, you know, I like it because, I don't know, I feel like, because I know trainers, I know

why they do what they do. It's very rare that you find somebody who became a trainer for any other reason besides the fact that they love fitness and love helping people. You just love helping people. You know, so it's not a job where you like, if I'm talking to like a bunch of financial advisors, you know, hey, raise your hand if you did this because you love helping people,

or which, or did you guys do this because you want to make a lot of money and everybody raise your hand, right? Trainers and fitness professionals love fitness and love helping people. A majority of them, that's why they get motivated to do it. So you get this pure kind of motivation to do what you're doing in this passion that I think is almost unmatched in most other. It's almost like a, if you've ever been a part of a volunteer group,

it's very similar. I've been a part of certain volunteer groups and people when they volunteer for things, the passion is so strong and that's, I mean, that's why they do it for free. Very similar when you see in the fitness space. And then if you teach them through that passion, here's how you can make this your career and get your clients to succeed and take care of your family. It's like, it's incredible.

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that people will often say is hard to do at home. And I think that's because when we think of hamstring exercises, we think of hamstring curls, hamstring curl machines. Now it is true that if you have a home gym, you probably don't have a hamstring curl machine. But here's the good news. Of all the hamstring exercises you could do, hamstring curl machines are like down way down the list in terms of effectiveness, of building strength, functional ability size to your hamstrings. The best hamstring exercises are the ones that tend to have you hip hinge, stiff leg and deadlifts, Romanian deadlifts, single leg

deadlifts, like that'll build more muscle and strength in your hamstrings and leg curls. Now, if you love leg curls and you want to work specifically in the leg bicep, which is a part of the leg, the hamstring that does that and flexes an knee, I like to do hips elevated leg curls on a physio ball. I'll do them at the end of a hamstring, you know, workout and they're really, they're really good. Those are brutal. What's the name of the one where you like hook your heels underneath like?

Well, that's gnarly. What's that gnarly curl? Is that gnarly curls? Yeah, I think it's called a gnarly curl. I mean, you could do that. There's ways if you want To do that specific movement that you can just find a way to do it at home but RDLs and good mornings I mean, you do RDLs and good mornings for your hamstrings and I guess throw some stability ball leg curls in there. And I think it's just because of all the muscles, it's probably the one that I think as far as your main muscles that everybody trains, has the least amount of machines for.

Yeah. Right. If you're on leg curl, all variations of what crystals are. I always say that the lats were a lot more difficult to address for at-home workouts. Being is like you really have to have something like attached to get the kind of pull-up situation or like some cables or something like that versus... You can't use gravity, you say. Yeah, so I always found that a little more difficult, but yeah, I can... I mean, you're right. There are like, people kind of recognize hamstrings as being attached to those very specific types

of machines in the gym. So I like curl machine, you know, we don't have that, but you can get a pretty nice, you know, exercise out of those that you mentioned. You know, I actually started to notice more development in my hamstrings just from squatting deeper too. Yeah. Yeah. That was like one of those. Both the the and hamstring, I got as a secondary benefit that I was not anticipating from just trying to like when I was working on my squad, I was like, oh, I'm gonna do this so I could develop my

calves more my hamstrings, but I noticed they developed more just from doing that. I thought that was really deep. Yeah, stabilization. That's a mole. But a lot of people, and they think of hamstrings, the average person thinks of, you know, flexing the knee, right, bending the knee, not realizing that the hamstrings play a huge role in hip-hinging. And it's true that one part of the hamstring, known as the leg bicep, is involved in the flexing of the knee.

But it's also involved in stabilizing when you're hip-hing, and then the big part of hamstring is the hip hinges you. So, I mean, if you had to pick one exercise for really well developed hamstrings, it wouldn't be leg curls. It would be a Romanian deadlift. Yeah, single leg, way more functional. Way more functional. But again, if you want to work that leg curl motion, I dare you, try it. I don't even if you go to a gym, I challenge you to switch to do two hip-ing type hamstring exercises, like Romanian deadlifts, and maybe like a single leg deadlift, and then finish off with your hips elevated,

fizzial ball leg curls. And now, this is true now, most people will feel the hamstrings more with a hips elevated fizzial ball leg curl than they will on a leg carb machine, because it encourages you to push your hips up and really work those hamstrings more with a hips elevated physical ball late curl than they will in a late car machine because it encourages you to push your hips up and really work those hamstrings. Whereas hamstring curl machines sometimes people bring up their hip flexors to do the now. How do you guys feel about this new product?

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No, yeah, or they're doing like a single leg curl, you know, to do it. Single leg curl. Which, I mean, that's okay, but I'm telling you, it's not working the hamstrings. Well, it's not really as well. It's like, I mean, I've got most of my female clients deadlifting 200 plus pounds. Yeah. So good luck putting a 200 pound dumbbell on your legs to try to get that same stimulation. I think you're going to get that.

No. I think if you're, if you get really good at single-aid deadlifts, RDLs, and good mornings, you're going to have well delivered. You're covered. You're covered. Next question is from Sardibli. How can I back squat more weight? I have good depth, but struggle lifting heavy.

Okay, so context really matters, right? Depends on the person, how they're squatting, what the weak area is, that'll change my advice. So I don't know who this person is, I've never seen him squat. I don't know what the workout looks like. So I'm going to give general advice that I think is effective for pretty much any strength goal. That's this.

Practice the particular exercise frequently. Now, I say practice specifically because I don't mean go out and hammer yourself with squats five days a week. You can do that once a week, but the other days go out and practice your squat. Like, if you increase the frequency of how much you practice and exercise, you will get stronger. I don't care if it's bench press, pull-ups, squats. If I squat hard one day a week, and in the rest of the week, I'm doing, you know, five sets and practicing my form, my technique, and I go lower sometimes, sometimes I go a little heavier, lower reps, higher reps.

That practice, in my experience, leads to some of the most rapid strength gains for most people in pretty much any exercise. Yeah, I'm going to kind of talk about something very specific, and this does depend on whether or not you have a squat rack and you have safety bars that you can use for this. But I really like this in terms of trying to generate more force. And really if you can learn how to generate more force, you're gonna be able to use that as a way to propel your body and have more strength in your movement.

So isometrics are a big part of this. And I talk about this a lot. I mean, and so you can get into pause squats where you're sitting in that squat. And usually the bottom is where the weakness is in driving out of the hole, right? So just to be able to sit in that and squeeze and really connect to that and try and recruit more in that position is one method, but then also setting the safety bars. So basically they're at the top and you're pushing up into the safety bar.

So if I'm sitting in my squat and then I'm pushing up and meeting resistance and I'm squeezing as far as I possibly can and not going anywhere, you're going to find that that has a lot of generating force ability. Dude, along those lines, I've seen someone do this and I think it's absolutely brilliant. So I've done that before where you set the safeties, you get the bar underneath it, and you push up in the safeties. The problem is if you get strong, you have to put weights on the cage, because you'll actually tip the cage over.

Oh, yeah. So it's not bolted in. I've seen someone do this, but I'm about to say, and I think it's absolutely brilliant. So all they do, and this is such brilliant homed gym, advanced training, you know, set up. He literally put bolts into the cement. So we had two bolts into the cement with like loops on them.

So it's like, I don't know what that's called. It's a bolt with a circle loop. And then he puts chains around the bar. And it's a I bolt. Yeah, and it attaches various lengths of the chain to the bolt. So we get some of the bar, the bar is bolted and chain to these bolts in the cement. And he gets underneath.

You can only go up so far. You can only go up so far. You can only go up so far and he squads against that and it's going to hold because it's bolted to the concrete and he could change how deep or how high he wants to go by the links of the chain. I thought that was absolutely brilliant. It's one of the smartest ways to do what you said, which is that where you're doing an isometric drive, not moving anywhere, You know what I like about that also, is it doesn't damage muscle.

No, like. You can back out easy. You could do it frequently. You could practice something like that three days a week and different varying, you know, depths or whatever. And you'll see some serious drinking. Well, since we're having fun speculating because we definitely don't have enough information

for this question. Let's be honest. There's still what they're doing. I know, we're all like, which is cool because we'll just, I'll just, I'll go in advice. Right, we'll just I'll just don't we advise right? Right. I'll go a different direction right because there's there are so many different ways but I I'll try try and think of things that I saw that were a common so when I have somebody who has like a really good deep squat

And so it's not like a range of motion thing But they just cannot load the bar there. It's because there's a breakdown somewhere or they have like a really weak core And they can't hold themselves with tight. So if you, and I like where Justin's going with the whole isometric thing, being able to stay contracted and tight through the movement, that has, I mean, I know for me, if I like don't tighten and brace my core,

I'm like night and day difference on how much I move. I can move like performance 50 to 100 more pounds when I'm like night and day difference on how much I move. I can move like performance 50 to 100 more pounds when I'm like, I brace really and I'm rigid and I'm tight to that movement because the slightest bit of moving left or right or front to back or your core kind of folding in because it's not any looseness. Yeah, you lose that energy on a big movement

like a back squat. So making sure that you have a really tight core and that your rigid is a good idea. Training like the isometrics is going to help do something like that. So practice with something like that, although this could be a million other things. Next question is from fit trucker lady.

How would kettlebell swings be put into a program? Is it like cardio strength strength, or conditioning? It can be all of them. Yeah, all of them. Yeah, if you're doing ketobol swings for a long time, with lightweight, well, now you're doing more conditioning cardio. If you do heavy and explosively, you're more strength and power.

I like to do, because it's a relatively ballistic movement, like a ketobol swing is not like most resistance training movements where you're like controlling the descent. Like in fact, if you've ever seen a bodybuilder try to do a kettlebell swing, they do it wrong because everything they're used to doing is controlled. So they do this weird like forward shoulder raise with the kettlebell.

It's definitely different. I like to put it personally at the beginning of the workout. I'd like to warm up, get everything good and lose, start my workout with that, and then move to my traditional resistance training exercises. I don't necessarily like to do it at the end, because I'm already fatigued at the end, and personally, I do it more for explosive power, which if I'm at the end, I'm already fatigued. I don't feel like I'm going to get much of that at the end of the workout.

That's my favorite usage of it, and I think hardstyle is one that resonates with me more because it's very much more of that controlled hip power, hip drive. And that's really what a lot of the benefit that I've acquired from that in terms of like athleticism, explosive movement, you're going to generate that all from that hip hinging, you know, that driving, you know, hip power. So kettlebells are like one of the best tools for that. So I like to program it in where I do heavy kettlebell swings for less reps. And I'm just very much controlled.

And it's about, it's about just like getting the weight to pendulum where you have maximal control. And then you're driving it with all your force at once when you need to. So it's a timing thing and it's also a fast loose approach. So I've had the most benefit with clients that are, they were trying to prime the butt before squats. So squatting or deadlifting.

So if I'm about to do a hip hinge movement, priming beforehand and that looks like a five to 10 rep heavier, and you're just trying to get them to be able to explode those hips forward. And I find it is a good way to help somebody who has a hard time feeling like squats or deads and their glutes. That's a great exercise.

Although I didn't program it a lot. Those are the clients that I used it, but you could do any of the ones that she's suggesting. I mean, none of them are wrong. I just think it's where you, what you're trying to accomplish matters the most. Of course. So if you're trying to burn a bunch of calories

and you want to get a good sweat on, then you let's grab a light one, let's do it for five or 10 minutes, and there's nothing wrong with doing that, if that's what you want to do. If you want to really work on your explosiveness from coming out of the hole of a squat, then I'm going to pick a much heavier weight and I'm only going to do it probably five to ten times on each side, something like that.

So that's how I would use it when I'd use it for clients. Yeah, when I used to program them, if I did a full body workout, I would start the full body workout with kettlebell swings after I was primed and warmed up. If I did any kind of a split, and really the only kinds of split that I've ever really done in the more recent time has been more of an upper lower split, if I'm in a deadlift, I like to do it before I deadlift. Otherwise, it's usually on a lower body day,

before squats or before lunges. Not really before back day, unless again, I'm deadlifting, but if I'm doing just rows and pull-ups and stuff like that, then I'll leave it for the leg day. Next question is from Stuart 75002. I recently read an article saying that bulking is a young man's game. Is there any age where you would recommend not recommend eating in a caloric surplus? Okay, so this, I don't read this article,

but it's probably referring to the type of bulking that is the wrong way to bulk, right? The way that you bulked when you were younger, when you didn't track, just high calories, like all means necessary. Yeah, let's see how much weight I can gain and let's see how much I can eat. So that, yeah, I agree.

You get away with that when you're young because when you're older and you eat in a ridiculous surplus with a bunch of garbage food, you're gonna damage your health probably a lot more. But in terms of bulking the right way, right, which is eating in a surplus to gain muscle and strength or to reverse diet, to get the metabolism to boost, that works for anybody.

I don't care what age you are, I don't care what old you are. But the surplus can't be so big where you're just gaining excessive body fat. And again, that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what age you are, I don't care what old you are. But the surplus can't be so big where you're just gaining excessive body fat. And again, that doesn't matter, it doesn't matter how old you are. You don't wanna eat in such a surplus to where yeah, I gained three pounds of lean body mass, but I also gained, you know, 10 pounds of body fat.

Well, okay, your surplus is a little too much and you're not training properly. I like to keep, I like to make sure that the weight that my clients would gain through a bulk was almost all muscle. Now inevitably, depending on the person, they would gain some body fat, but it couldn't make up more than 10 or 15%

of the total weight that they gained. It's like if you gain 10 pounds and five of its body fat, like you're surplus a little too high. I mean, I'd like to read this article, but I can get behind it, because I'm willing to bet their angle they're taking is just, bulky looks different today at 40

than what it did at 25 for me. And a lot of that has to do with just my movement. You know, I'm a dad now, I have a job where I talk on a mic all day long, I sit in a car for two hours a day, like I just don't burn nowhere near the calorie. So bulking for me is literally adding a protein shake on top of what my maintenance is or very little,

do I have to add to put myself in a calorie surplus? And so it looks, whereas when I was a kid, and I know you both can relate to this feeling of like, I can't eat enough I mean Force feeding peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and slamming these whole milkshakes because I'm playing basketball I'm training eight to ten clients a day. I'm running around with my friends like I'm on the weekends I'm doing active sports stuff like I just was burning so many calories that and I think that I was probably probably the common young teenage boy who is active and into sports and stuff like that.

You just burn a ton of calories, and so I think that's where probably this is coming from, and then as you get into your 30s and 40s and beyond, there's very few men at that age are probably moving as much as what you were when you were 20 years old. Yeah, and also when you're younger, you're training program. At least mine wasn't as smart. I didn't understand. I over trained often. I went to failure. My lifts too much, did too much with my workouts. So my workouts weren't sending the best signal.

So it was all about how many calories I could get in to see the scale move. And I also didn't care if it was body fat or muscle because I grew up skinny. For me, a pound on the scale was a pound on the scale and I didn't care. My decisions were like, oh my god, I'm stuffed after lunch, how can I force more calories in? Oh, I'll eat a bag of skittles or I'll drink some coke, right? Or I'm going to go to the fast food place and supersize everything and then I'll get those extra calories.

That kind of bulking isn't good for anyone. Now the reason why it may be a young man's game is you get away with it more when you're younger. That was a point that I was trying to make. But proper bulking is proper bulking, whether you're young or old, you have to send the right signal, the body has to want to build muscle, and then you give it enough calories to do that, and not too many over because then you just gain body fat. Well, and I think, too, it's just like generally, as you get older, the game really is like,

I don't want to add any more weight, you know, like, and I want to, you've done a really good job of figuring out how to consume calories and not move quite as much. And so like, your lifestyles can put a different than it was, you know, maybe when you're more dialed in and you're younger and like, yeah, the margin of error was, you know, not quite as slim, which is now, it's like every little thing you have to like be a little bit more dialed in. So I think just taking in all those factors, like you mentioned in terms of our, what that looks like now activity level wise, your consistency, how hard you're really getting after it in the gym, all these types of things

are going to play a factor in terms of how far you're going to push that. Yeah. And one thing you said is very true. When I was younger, I think as people get older, they tend to become a little bit more obviously mature, but less insecure. And I didn't care. I just wanted to get bigger. Now, even if I had the ability to just gain as much muscles I wanted, I didn't care, I just wanted to get bigger. Now, even if I had the ability to just gain

like as much muscles I wanted, I wouldn't want to go to the point where I was uncomfortable. Whereas when I was young, I didn't care. I'd be as uncomfortable as hell, couldn't breathe, didn't fit in, that was great, I was, because it totally fed to my insecurity.

Now I'd be unhappy. I don't want to feel like I can't move and I'm uncomfortable. Yeah, you know, so it's just one of those things. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpafree.com and check out all of our guides. So we have guides that can help you build muscle or burn body fat or just improve your health and much more again. It's mindpumpafree.com.

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