Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1701: The Dangers of Sugar Vs. Artificial Sweeteners, Comparing Sumo Vs. Conventional Deadlifts, When to Prioritize Static Stretches & More

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the superiority of sumo vs. conventional deadlifts, how to adjust macros to fit what’s right for the body, the distinction between mobility and the traditional end range, passive and static stretches, and the difference between sugar and artificial sweeteners on our body. Mind Pump Fit Tip: For faster fat loss, rather than being in a calorie deficit, try to have an undulating approach. (4:30) Fun Facts with Justin: The Huaorani Tribe of Ecuador and their evolutional advantage of having an extra digit.  (19:28) The allure of King Ranch. (24:49) Mr. Beast’s Squid Game in real life. (30:35) How Sal is sneaking Organifi Protein Powder into his daughter’s meals. (34:50) Mind Pump loves butter. (36:40) Dad life updates with the guys. (38:50) Why Sal is obsessed with the De-Stress Blend by Ned. (44:37) What’s the deal with Omicron? (49:00) #Quah question #1 – What type of deadlift is better, sumo or conventional? (1:00:43) #Quah question #2 - Do macro split ratios matter? If so, how do I adjust my macros to fit what’s right for me? (1:05:03) #Quah question #3 – You often make the distinction between mobility and the traditional end range passive and static stretches. Do you see any benefit in static stretches? When would they be prescribed over mobility work? (1:08:39) #Quah question #4 – What's the difference between sugar and artificial sweeteners in our body? (1:14:09) Related Links/Products Mentioned December Promotion: MAPS HIIT and MAPS SPLIT 50% off! **Promo code “DECEMBER50” at checkout** Intermittent Energy Restriction Attenuates the Loss of Fat Free Mass in Resistance Trained Individuals. A Randomized Controlled Trial - PubMed How to Undulate Your Calories for Faster Weight Loss & an Improved Metabolism (Mind Pump TV – YouTube) Huaorani people - Wikipedia The King Ranch Legacy $456,000 Squid Game In Real Life! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Protein-packed organifi pancakes Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP10” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Prime Which is Best - Mobility or Stretching? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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current events and scientific studies. We tell stories, mention our sponsors. Today's intro was 56 minutes long after that is when we got to the answering the listener questions. So here's what went down in today's episode. We opened up with a fitness tip comparing being in a consistent caloric deficit versus underlating your calories up and down, which one helps you burn more body fat, which one helps you preserve more muscle. We reveal the study and our opinions in that part of the episode. Then we talk about a tribe in Ecuador that has a lot of people with six fingers and six toes. Really weird.

Really weird. It's strange. Then we talked about King Ranch. Adam brought up an interesting fact. I guess the F-150 comes from an actual place called King Ranch in Texas. Then we talked about Mr. Beast on YouTube and how Chevy guy. On YouTube and how his squid game review or video actually got more views than squid game itself. So we had a cool discussion about that.

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it's a rule. You have to eat less calories than you burn, right? You have to be in a calorie deficit. But here is a tip that'll make it more effective. Rather than having a consistent deficit all week long, try to have an undulating approach. Some days larger deficit, other days smaller deficit, and other days yet still, maybe maintenance or surplus. In fact, studies actually show the undulating approach preserves more muscle tissue, results in a little bit more fat loss, and maintains a higher metabolic rate.

Was that a recent study? That was pretty new, wasn't it? Yeah, what they did was in the study is they gave there were two groups of people and these were people who worked out and the whole deal and they said, okay, you guys over here, 25% calorie reduction or 25% below maintenance, I think it was. And then they said, okay, now, you guys over here, it's 35% Monday through Friday, but then Saturday and Sunday, you're going to need more calories, but at the end of the weeks, the calorie deficits will be the same. And at the end of the study, the group that had the larger deficit during the week, but

then ate the more calories in the weekend, during the week, but then ate the more calories in the weekend, preserved more muscle, and had less of a metabolic slowdown, and actually burned a little bit more body fat. Does it just seem more realistic? Because not everything is so perfectly controlled all the time. We've had to really... This is a new thing. We've created the ability to have access to food like that

where we can have the consistency of calories to be met on a daily basis like that. I'm so glad you said that, because okay, so here's what's funny. Bodybuilding, bro science, oftentimes when they explain things doesn't make sense, but the reason why they do things is because they've seen it work.

And bodybuilders for a long time have advocated for refeeds or cheat days, right? Essentially doing what we're talking about where there's a higher calorie deficit and then they'll have a day or two with higher calories and they say it works better not stuff. Now I always recommended, undulating, not for the greater fat loss or muscle preservation because I, that wasn't necessarily, and there weren't really studies to support that, but the reason why I did it was for the behavioral effects, like you're saying, because I know that giving people more calorie seed on weekends, for example, and maybe less during the week when they're working and they're busy anyway, people were,

it was easier for them to stick to it. Now, what do you guys think the pros and cons of the strategy are? Because I think it's in a controlled environment, this is what the research says, this is what I think we've been recommending for a long time. In fact, that's why I brought up was the study kind of new, because I remember we did a video on YouTube, you and I did a long time ago. And I think later on the study came out to prove that that was the better approach of doing it. But I do see some pros and some cons. Do you guys agree or do you think this is the answer and it's just the better way?

Well, I see some cons in that, depending on the client, if the propensity for them to eat in higher calories surplus, like if that kind of tips them into like a trend, if they tend to get sort of, I think they use a date date, but like, you know, yeah, they get in this binge phase where that's the only thing they're fixated on is that binge day. Yeah, this is why I never called it cheat day.

The term cheat day alone implies that today it's free for all and then what would happen, behaviorally speaking, is people would be in a calorie deficit and then the cheat day was a go crazy, off the rails, off the wagon, day, and it was so bad that it erased the deficit. And it also encouraged kind of this poor relationship with food.

So I never called it that. I always said undulating, or I said higher calorie, lower calorie days. I always notice a behavioral benefit because like you said, just it mirrors real life. Like if I I know Friday, I'm going to go out to dinner with my wife, well, I'll make that a higher calorie day, right? If I know Saturday, I'm going to my kids game, or if I'm going to enjoy dinner at my mom's house or have friends over, higher calorie days, if it's Monday, I'm at work, I'm busy, well, it, you know, makes more sense

to have a lower calorie, lower calorie days. Some people will adjust it according to their workouts. I think bodybuilders tend to do it this way. It just made more sense, but if it turns into a restrict binge approach, then it's not good. That's the major con that I see. And I agree, Justin, I think that, and it does, I think it promotes that a lot, actually, because you get this really strict six day or five day a week type of dieting,

and then you cut loose on Saturday and Sunday, and Saturday and Sunday, or one of those days, is not controlled at all. It's just literally, this is my quote-unquote cheat day, and what ends up happening a lot of times is all the calories they were reducing in the week, they end up consuming that over or beyond that, and they're kind of really going nowhere. So I do think there is some value in some people having a very consistent calorie intake that

they try and target. Now what I like to recommend is something similar to what you were kind of saying, which is I like to give a client, this is our target, but then I teach them to have some balance in that meaning that, allowing them some days to have a little bit of over-consuming and then some days to under-consume or mill skip. Like, that's how I like to do it is. Okay, this is kind of where our target is,

we want to be here, but then I also want you to be kind of normal about it. And what I mean by that is like, hey, if this is a day when you're not very hungry, you know, I'm not going to force you to get that, hit that calorie intake, let it be a lower calorie day. You'll probably be hungry over the next day, but just be mindful of where our target is at and only allow yourself to go up and down that, say, you know, 500 calories depending on the size.

Yeah. So what I like to do is I would tell somebody, we would figure out their target, right? So, okay, your body's burning 3000 calories a day. So, the goal is, let's say we're doing an aggressive deficit. So, the goal is 14,000 calories for the whole week, right? 2000 calories a day on average, so a thousand calorie deficit per day. So, okay, 14,000 calories for the week.

And then what we'll do is we'll have rather than doing 2,000 calories every single day, some days will be 1,500 calories, some days will be 2,500 calories, some days may be even lower or even higher. And I like to give people kind of that undulating approach. And I noticed, again, when people did it that way, it felt they were able to do it longer. It wasn't so monotonous, it worked. They were able to work it within going out and enjoying certain foods, but what's also cool now is there's now a study to shows that not only does it

help some people behaviorally, but physiologically, it seems to preserve muscle and prevent that metabolic adaptation that happens when you die, which is a nightmare, like one of the most challenging, and this is why lifting weights or doing resistance training is so important. It's one of the strongest signals you can send your body that'll say don't slow down your metabolism, because we need muscle, we need strength, right? So you do that, but when you cut your calories and it's consistently cut, your body wants to adapt to that. Your body's always trying to meet whatever you're taking in colorically.

That's kind of a main feature of adaptation that we got through evolution. So if you eat 1500 calories, especially if you're not sending a muscle building signal, your body will very quickly figure out a way to only burn 1500 calories, and then you start to get stuck. But that up and down approach with the calories

and adjusting macros, I think, is a great. So you're just basically staying ahead of the propensity to adapt to that type of just like somewhat like training in terms of adjusting and having your body still have to some days below, some days behind, and then there's more of that. Also too, is it anything to do with the sensitivity some days below, some days behind, and then there's more of that. Also, too, is it anything to do with the sensitivity

in terms of being able to shuttle and utilize nutrients more effectively? So here's where we're going back into the broscience. I don't know if there's a lot of studies to support this, but I will say I've experienced this, and again, bodybuilders have been doing this for years, where they'll go, they'll carb cycle, and they'll have lower carb days and higher carb days

rather than having a consistent number of carbs. Right. And what they notice is when they do the low carb and higher carb days, they get this, you know, they will say that they feel more sensitive to the carbs, they get better pumps, and then when they go low carb, they notice that it gets them leaner faster versus just being consistent.

I've noticed when I go really low carb for a long time and then bump my carbs, even if the calories are the same, I get this really intense effect from it versus just staying consistent all the time. Did you carb cycle? I loved dieting this way. When I was training, I don't eat that way normally. So normally I'm more intuitive and I have a more balanced approach to how I eat with proteins, carbs and fat

But when I was training and getting ready for shows Carbs cycling was one of my favorite ways to just eat and it was because I felt exactly what you're saying I felt like when I was low carb Yes, it affected my workouts. I didn't feel as strong But I did feel like I leaned out quicker when I was, and of course, I'm lower calorie, right, when you're doing that, because that's really what's happening, right? You cycle the carbs, you're getting lower days,

you're basically doing what we're talking about, you're just controlling it through carbohydrates, but I really loved the looking forward to the high carb day. It was part of the mental game too, of just like, I know I'm low calorie low carb right now And so I can power through the next two two to three days because I know on day four I'm gonna get to load my body up and I can look forward to that workout And so I love to do this and I had a lot of success both with myself training and dieting this way

And then also with clients that were we're doing shows this way. I I love the feel. I love it when studies support old bro science. It's just really cool. Yeah, I mean, like a study comes out like, oh, this actually works. Oh, that's really cool. Well, there's something to be said of. I mean, you gotta understand that this community of people, and this isn't like, I think all groups,

and you have, you have, Alchemists. Yeah, there's wisdom. Yeah, they've been applying and talking to each other and doing things like that. And, you know, it's wisdom. Yeah, they've been applying and talking to each other and doing things like that. And you know, it's unfortunate that we're so quick to talk shit or label it as bro science and like it gets this really bad targetation with it.

But the reality of it is these guys, this is who's out there testing it first. If it wasn't for the bro's going out there and trying all this stuff like that, nobody would be doing the studies to try and support it or disprove it. And so, I mean, there's a lot of value in these people that have been doing this for years and years

and years and trying to practice. Well, what happens is they'll say something and they'll say this works, and then they'll try to explain how it works, and they'll get the explanation wrong. Right. Even though they see the result of it. And then what happened, then this is the part that annoys me.

It's like Eastern medicine stuff. Totally. And then what really annoys me is that the science people come out and then they try to just prove the explanation. Right. Not the result. So like to give you an example, pre-exhausting a muscle group or priming, you know, now we'll even call it priming.

So let's say I'm going to do like an old school bodybuilding pre-exhaust and let's say I have a tough time feeling my chest when I bench press. So the old school bodybuilders, what they would do is they would have you pre-exhaust it by doing an isolation movement first, right? Cable flies or something really squeeze the chest and then go to the bench press and then you'll feel your chest more. And then the scientists will come out and be like, oh yeah, well, with our MRI testing or we're testing muscle contraction, actually, there's less activation from the chest, therefore you're wrong.

No, because the person who's doing that notices that their chest grows over time and the reason why it's happening isn't because of some physiological, more connection, just the fact that they can feel it. Now my chest is kind of fatigued. I know how to position my elbows better and do the bench press in a they can feel it. Now my chest is kind of fatigued. I know how to position my elbows better and do the bench press in a way to feel it more in my chest.

And so I'm just pressing more effectively for the goal that I have. So the result at the end of the day is what the people, what the bodybuilders had seen. The explanation is often wrong. And we see this in wellness too with adrenal fatigue and the way they explain it, like the adrenals don't get fatigued but there isn't imbalance of hormones and all that stuff.

So I love it when it's all over. It's the unfortunate part about our space is that we're, we all care so much about our own egos and being more right than the next person that we end up confusing the average person. The average person just, I just want some help, I just want some good information that I can go and apply to my life, to better my life. And all of us fitness experts are so caught up in being more right than the next one

or being the authority in the space that we're always looking to disprove each other or approve that I have more knowledge and information. And it's really unfortunate because the consumer loses. I had such a great years ago, back when I owned my training studio, I used to have an acupuncturist in there So we had offices people would rent and there was an acupuncturist in there and she was really smart really sharp communicate really well and I used to I used to also train a lot of Western medicine

doctor surgeons and anesthesiologists and my my studio was next to a hospital and I remember one time we were all and it's a small studio. So oftentimes lots of people will be in there, maybe working with their trainers or people in the offices would be on break, so they'd be hanging out. We'd have these big conversations, right? And so the conversation came up around acupuncture

and insurance companies had started to cover acupuncture. So I asked my Western medicine doctor about that and he kind of scoffed a little bit and they said, well, you know, why is insurance covering it? They're showing that there's some applications and whatever. And he said, yeah, but, you know,

like, where's the evidence for Chi and these energy meridians, right? So the acupuncturist in there who's an Eastern medicine practitioner is explaining the Chinese medicine, you know, whatever, the explanations and the Western medicine doctors, like there's no evidence. So then the acupuncturists in there who's an Eastern medicine practitioner, is explaining the Chinese medicine app, you know, whatever the explanations in the Western medicine doctors like, there's no evidence.

So then the acupuncturist who's very, very smart also had a little bit of Western medicine training said, okay, maybe the way that you guys understand the human body, we're not gonna find evidence for cheese, but she said, are there cases where we see things like referred pain? For example, I feel pain in my left arm. Sometimes that means what?

Heart attack. So the CNS, the central nervous system communicates through this wide web of communications through the body. What if putting the needles in the body changes the way the body communicates pain, which then affects the movement? It's really reroutes it. And you should've seen the doctor go,

oh, that makes a lot of sense. And then I, in the mightier, my head's exploding. I'm like, you know what, we get so caught up in the explanation. Yeah. That we forget that, let's just see, is it working? If it's working, then okay, that's great. And then we'll go back and see if we can figure out ways that it's working, but don't discredit it just because

the explanation doesn't fit your context of how you learned this. Speaking of unexplained phenomenon and things that are kind of interesting, cool. So you brought up the HODZ tribe a few times. And people going down there kind of seeing how they live and why they adapt to running so well and all that kind of stuff. Well, there's this tribe and Ecuador that I found out about called the Wayorani. Let me see if I'm seeing that.

Wayorani. Wayorani tribe that for some reason, like they have no heart, cases of heart disease, no case of cancer, no cases of elevated blood pressure, like no definable disease within their tribe that they've found. And the weird thing about them is they're the highest density of six digit fingers and six digit toes. And it's like, what the fuck? So how did you correlate the two of those right there? Because that's where I started. fingers and six digit toes. And it's like, what the fuck?

How did you correlate the two of those right there? Because that's where I started. I started. I'm like, whoa, this is a tribe that has all the six, 12 fingers, 12 toes, weird. And then you read further on and they're like, yeah, and we studied them further. And there's like no health problems that they have.

What the hell? Isn't it saying now, Doug, like what percentage of the people is that? Is it highest density because there's 20 of them and there's like actually two people in the tribe that have this, is that why? I didn't dive that to even be the case. There's like two people.

Yeah, no idea how many of these are these digits functional? Yeah, they're fully functional. And again, they said that there's some kind of neural pathway that is like a program that is like, it's a normal program that we have in our DNA for six digits. What? It's not just like it's a mutation, but also.

Wow, it doesn't even look that abnormal on that kid right there that's got his hands up. You know what, it looks like a normal hand at first glance. For a second, it looks weird, and then you have to count and be like, what the hell? Yeah. Wow. And so they found like, weird, and then you have to count and be like, what the hell? Yeah. Wow. And so they found like, again, if you go back in history, like it gets brought up a lot

of times with giants, it's associated with giants, like in biblical times, like Goliath, like as an example, there's all these other examples of six fingered giants and whatnot. But it's interesting because I'm like, what, why this place? I mean, some mutation obviously that does have some advantage here. Like, no. And you just drew your own conclusion as far as the eating and the disease

and then the fingers, right? No, no, they went down there and they're the ones that presented that as. Oh, really? Yeah. They try to say that there's some sort of correlation with their diet that is causing potentially the

diet or it's just the environment or the way that they live or what if their life expectancy is like 30. Yeah. No heart disease, no cancer. Yeah. Here's the oldest person in our tribe is 30. I know. And again, yeah, into your point, like there needs to be more No, listen. And again, yeah, into your point, like there needs to be more investigation because like, again, you could go based off of like what they say, but how do you know, like how you first and died.

It means it makes total sense why you would see the low disease rate just because they're probably eating from the land. I mean, they're probably- Moving a lot. They're isolated. Yeah, they don't eat a lot because there's not a lot of food. Right, I'm sure they eat a much of processed food and stuff

and overconsuming to your point, they're staying active. So I could totally see the connection there. I did the sixth digit thing is where I was a lot. So let's speculate what would be the evolutionary that a year so healthy you grow extra limbs. No, no, no, no. So would that be a trick? My body, my body can support an extra finger.

No, no, no, no, no. What would be the evolutionary advantage of having a sixth digit? I was just thinking about you be a hell of a climber, maybe. Yeah, right. What sports would this person have an advantage in? Because it could get in the way if something's sick.

Sick-ass guitarist, right? Like you'd be a terrible baseball player. That's too many fingers on the baseball, like where you're, you know, you mean, I don't know, man, you might be able to throw like a, ball. Yeah, I'll throw. Yeah, yeah create a new a new throw I know Yeah, great arm wrestler I would imagine like a crazy grip on the outside I mean climber for sure I mean you need every you need every finger for a client wall although our friend does need all his fingers.

You'd be a great, you'd be a great lady's would love you, I don't know why. Yeah. You'd be a good, you'd be a good, you'd be a good tickler. Yeah. You can't be a tickler. Hey, imagine shaking someone's hand.

Imagine you'd be like a full handshake with someone has a six finger, but the six fingers on the outside because you grip them like this and then they just stick their wrist on the weight and then they just They'll wait and then they just Yeah lock it in you're like, oh It reminds me of remember that crappy ass movie water world. Yeah, where he evolved with the webed, you know fingers Yeah, he had he had gills behind his ears. Yes, cuz he could swim and don't hate on my boy Kevin Kossner, man Why do you say your boy? I'm so into what his show, right? Yellowstone. Oh, he's got another show.

It's so good, yeah. Bro, he plays the same character in every movie. This one he's not. He's, but I agree with that. He's like, he's like, he's like, I can't agree with that. Yeah, he's definitely a, he's definitely a Keanu Reeves type of actor show.

So it's not like, dancing with wolves? Because we're not in the middle. No, no, he's, I think he does actually, and I agree with you. He is not up there with, you know, top actors, but I think he does a great job, it fits his character in this great, great show. Speaking of that, there was a rant,

and I had this in my notes that bring up to you guys a long time ago when I first saw it, because I had to go and like, and sometimes you hear stuff on like fictional shows, but then they have some truth to it, and I don't know if you guys do this or not, but I'll hear something on a fictional show sometimes, and I'm like, is that true?

That could be true. Let me look this up and find out more about it. And sure, shit, one of these things that he talks about on the show is has truth to it that I had no idea about. And there's a part in the show where he's talking about making a name for his ranch that it's so big that they're popular like the Kings Ranch. And there's a ranch called Kings Ranch in Texas.

Now, where you guys may have heard of it or know this, is that's what the Ford trucks are. If you ever seen the high-end Ford trucks, it'll have this big emblem on the side, maybe Doug can pull it up called Kings. So look up Ford. I don't know, just as a Chevy guy. Ford Kings Ranch edition.

Ford. And it's like upgraded, it's like Eddie Bauer, right? It's like an upgraded, but it's actually named after like this really popular massive ranch in Texas. That's how big and influential in that space. Really? This ranch is that they actually have a Ford truck that is branded with a Mac.

It's like Harley-Davidson does that like that. I just never knew that there's like a farm that has got their name attached to the fore. Isn't the F-150 the number one selling car in America, or it was for a long time? It has been, I don't know if it is like this year or what it's been, but I know it, yeah, you gotta think like half of the middle of America,

it's probably one of the top. Oh yeah, so he's showing the... It's a big farm, yeah. Yeah, see the King's Ratch, too. Oh luxury, luxury line, they do the interior. By the way, I had no idea, because I haven't had a truck in a long time, one of my first cars going the- Yeah, see the King's Ratch to luxury luxury luxury line. They do the interior. By the way, I had no idea because I you know, I haven't had a truck in a long time.

One of my first cars was just a basic pickup, but you go in some of these trucks with four doors. They got more space than a big sedan. They're comfortable as hell. Super spacious. Yeah. It's like a it's pretty crazy. Oh no, I'm curious.

Justin and I as GMC has more room than our SUV rover does. It's way more room. So like when we go somewhere and I have four people, I'll opt to drive the truck over the Rover because it's way more space. You know, speaking of like true stories and stuff like that, how much is there a rule that says that a movie that's based on a true story has to utilize

like so much like a percentage of the story. That's such a funny question because I've thought about this so many times that I've never found the answer to it. You watch some crazy movie, you know, like a haunted whatever. So based on a true story, I believe. I believe so I believe this is based. Exactly.

So I believe that there's barely any. Have you ever noticed that they use different ways to describe it? Sometimes it's based on actual events. Sometimes it's based on a true story. Sometimes it's a traumatized version. Yeah, so there's like, and I bet there's categories on each.

Like, okay, if there are five things that are embellished in here, you can't put it under a true story. It has to be on based on events or something like that. I bet there's gotta be some sort of a standard that makes you have to title it something different, right? I hope even myographyies, it's like, it's so selective based off of the person's putting together

because you want to put in the best version in story. And so you're gonna leave things out that are probably important but maybe don't follow along with the dramatization of it. There was a movie, I don't know, you're looking at subducks. I really like to see if there's a specific percentage that a movie needs to do based, if it says based on our true story. But I remember as a kid, there was a movie that scared the absolute shit out of me. It was called Fire in the Sky. Yeah. And it was these loggers that get abducted by aliens.

Mm-hmm. And for some reason, as a kid, my biggest fear was aliens. I have no idea why. Like Sasquatch and Aliens. Those are the two things I watched out for, right? Those are the two things I'm scouting. I'm always thinking about protecting his butthole. Yeah. Yeah. What?

You know? I get it dude. I get it. You're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, Sasquatch doesn't, doesn't do it. I don't know. It goes on your brain with Sasquatch, but.

I know aliens are aliens. For some reason it's always in the butt, but anyway. I don't know. I was afraid of aliens. I watched this freaking movie and it scared the shit out of me and then I see it says, based on a true story. Yeah. And I remember I was telling, like I was so scared.

I remember telling my dad and I'm like, Dad, I'm like, this was a true story. And he goes, no, no, no, someone told the story and they made the movie on it and I was like, what? What does that say, Doug? Yeah, based on a true story is more of an accurate accounting of the story, though there's probably some dramatic license taken. What did that say, Doug? Yeah, based on a true story is more of an accurate accounting of the story, though there's probably some dramatic

license taken based on first-hand accounts of factual events is a story told about the same event from a variety of people. I don't think so. Yeah, but there's no freaking regulation. I know that. Nobody checks shit. Okay, no, I guess, sure.

It's gotta be just like PG-13 rated R in 17. I don't think that you don't think so. No, so that, you think you just put shit out and say it's based on a true story. I do like loosely based it. Look at all the documentaries on Netflix. I think one. I think that's even another category.

I think documentary has. There's no rules. See, there are no rules. So you said that the rating of movies, that's an actual agency that has the rate movies. So there's like an actual agency that I don't Remember when it's created what are you talking about right now when the movies rated our PG 13? Oh, yeah Okay, there's an actual agency that rates movies and they do it based off like how many F4 if there's an F word in there

There's a standard. Yeah, there is. There's a standard by the way the standard has changed Have you guys watched a PG 13 movie from the 80s? It would never fly. It's making you, I know. It was worse back then actually. Oh yeah, no way. I watched a PG-13 or a PG movie my kids. I'm like, this is not PG. I know. What the hell? Yeah, to your point though, I think that where it gets sticky

is if it's based off of somebody that's still alive, right? And then they like want to take you to court because they've painted you in a certain light and it's like inaccurate. I don't they might have a case there. I don't know how that works. They probably haven't signed. There has to be if there's no rules to it. There's got they got to have a case if they don't let's they do sign it. We can totally make a movie. You guys.

Hey, don't you talk about making a movie. Some crazy shit. Listen to this stuff that I was listening to today. Okay, the squid. What's the squid game one called? Yeah, it's just called squid game. I almost said Squidward. squid almost said squid word you know that it broke you know it broke all the Netflix records stuff like that yeah there's a new South Korean movie okay so trip on this okay so it's set all the opinions about that okay so it's set all these records right so I brought you guys heard me before we got on the podcast talking about that mr. Beast guy you know why I was looking him up what so I didn't know about him before this like I know I'm gonna rock I didn't know that this guy who

This 85 years old enough. Yeah, I like how he's formal by the way mr. Beast well, that's mr. So he Made a spoof on squid game It passed the amount of views and watch time on his YouTube channel which which is for free, then SquidGamer that took 10 years to produce and get that movie out there, he made that thing in seven days. He made a spoof video of SquidGamer that took him seven days to produce and it ended up surpassing the amount of views.

Now of course, that makes total sense when you understand the viewership on YouTube versus the viewership and Netflix. Netflix has somewhere around 200 million subscribers and it's like 20 billion or something ridiculous, amount of people that are viewing YouTube. But it's interesting to think about what that could open the door for for Netflix

and streaming companies. I was listening to this podcast, and they were talking about, imagine if you were a Netflix, how brilliant it would be to tease one or two episodes of a series on YouTube for free. It's a much bigger platform for free. It gets people to hook, to watch it, and then if you want to finish the series, you've got

to go over to Netflix and pay the $9.99 a month, or maybe they do some sort of an all-accom version. But what a brilliant concept for Netflix to grow their base from 200 million to get into the billions. That makes perfect sense. That's the story of Mind Pump recreated by Jake Paul. Yeah. It'd be huge dude.

Yeah. Dropped into a Vat of radioactive material. Justin got super power. Based on true events. Totally true events based on. Yeah, that's what I would say. It is interesting. I feel like that's a smart strategy. I'm surprised nobody's already done that. Yeah, I feel like they would

have done that already. Well, you see, so is it, I think, Epic's have done it. I think Showtime did it to me. So, I know when I've gone on the actual platforms, I'll do that. Yeah, I mean, one episode. That's right. That's right. Some of them will let you watch the first two or three episodes of something and they just enough to get you hooked on it And then you end up that. But not on another platform. Right. That's like I think that would be so smart to do or I mean you could you could also make it internally So you don't have to go on another platform what you could do is Imagine if Netflix offered a free Platform so it's Netflix free watch the first episode of free gives you basically all kinds of

Episodes like the first couple episodes of their most popular seasons, to entice people to potentially go on and then subscribe. It's just a brilliant idea. Yeah, that is a really good idea. You know what reminds me of the whole like, you know, Mr. Beast getting more views by talking about something than the actual thing itself did. That reminds me of, I remember my econ class in high school. I actually had one good teacher in high school.

He was an economics teacher. And he said, the way that you made millions of dollars or money during the gold rush was not, this is how the gold rush is when lots of people came to count on his own picks. Yeah, he goes, it wasn't the people that found the gold. There's a few people that made millions with gold. He's like, it was the people selling the picks

and the axes and the pans and that kind of the materials. So they basically rode the coattails of this thing and you had people making tremendous amounts of money servicing people looking for gold. For gold. Because he knows the brothels. They're all like right there. I still like we're seeing the examples of that right now with this whole metaverse and NFT market. You see people all over the place that are making all kinds of money selling these NFTs that are supposedly going to play a role in the metaverse. I think your theory that you said the other day is on point. Yeah, I really do.

I think you're so on point. It makes perfect sense that people laundering money are selling digital bullshit to get money. That's been a big part of the art world too, right? With paintings and everything is just's just ways the longer money and, you know, past things back and forth in the black market, that was a way that they could do that. Speaking of being sneaky, I am now sneakily, sneakily, that's what it is now. We'll go with it. Yeah, I am, I have it to the library. I'm finding ways to get my daughter to increase her protein and nutrient intake, which is great. Because she is, unfortunately, she has a one trait of mine, which is to be counter, you know, authority. So I'm the authority.

If I'm like, oh, you gotta try this, it's really good for you, it's not gonna happen. Right? So I gotta find ways at whatever doing this or whatever. Anyway, she's got braces, she's got work going on and mouth hurts and she just wanna eat lots of, you know, healthy foods lots of healthy foods. What do I do? I'm like, let me make it. You want to make a smoothie? She's like, yeah, so I'm like sneaking in. So I'll make the smoothie. And I'll sneak out the organified protein so she doesn't see it. And I'll throw

it in there. And then she'll drink it. And she'll go to school and I'll tell Jessica, be like, she's had 30 grams of protein just because I've had. Like she has no idea. That's perfect. You know? Yeah, we've done some similar with waffle. Yeah, you do the pancake and waffle move, don't you? Yeah, yeah, pancake and waffle. So, ad protein was the next thing.

Because first, it was like the, we were concerned more with greens and stuff like that, but now it's like, it's more protein, with, especially with, ever it. Just because he's just has this, he just loves carbs. You know, like I have to like, no, let's get you some protein and get after it. And so I've been, have you guys ever, did you guys ever tried the green pancakes that

organized the recipe that they have for that? No, they're actually really good. Are they really? Yeah, because the green juices. Yeah, the green juices in there gives it kind of like this minty flavor, which I wouldn't think that would be really good. But you put like two or three chocolate chips inside there and you have like a mint chocolate chip pancake.

It's bomb. Really? Yeah. And it's a great way to sleep that. The greens inside there. Wow. Yeah. No way recently bought these waffles

that are like dairy and grain free. And they're incredible. Throw some butter on those bad boys and you know what I've been eating with them? Chicken. Have you guys ever, so- Chicken, yes dude. So, chicken and waffle. Okay, no I've never done the fried chicken

with the ross jokes. Here it is. Yeah, I've heard- I've heard, I've heard chicken and waffles. Chicken and waffles and I was like, is that really good? I don't know, is this supposed to, it's good. Chicken and waffles goes great. She's like fried chicken and rice.

Fried and chicken, right? I mean, of course. Yeah. That's why in the South, they have all the deep fried twinkies and deep fried Oreos and sugar, I mean, right? I mean, of course. Yeah. That's why in the South, they have all the deep fried twinkies and deep fried Oreos and they take all these super-truized- You know what place in South-South Chicago, I used to go with some of my friends,

I went maybe twice, but you literally can bring any food item and then they'll dip it in batter it and fry it for you. You know what I saw? I saw this is no joke. And I- Deep fried twinkie. No, you do anything. No, it was deep fried twinkie. No. Yeah, you do anything.

No, it was deep fried stick of butter. Oh yeah, wow. We did a double stuff. Oh, that would make your stomach hurt. So now here's a deal. I would totally eat that. You guys know how I am with butter. Deep fried butter, that sounds amazing.

So I love butter too, but I have a threshold. You don't have a threshold with it. Like I can only eat, like Katrina made this dish for like this. I'll eat butter myself. I'm with you though. I can do that and blocks a cheese. You know that. You can go straight, like so she like Katrina made this dish for, I'll leave butter by myself. I'm with you though, I can do that and blocks the cheese. You know that.

You can go straight, like so, we made this dessert, I forgot what it was called, it was like upside down, pumpkin cake or something, something weird, I'd never seen before, and it had this layer of butter, like she literally cut the whole top of it was the little cubes of butter on the top of it, and it did taste amazing, but I can only have a very small piece

of it because that much butter is rich. It just upsets my stomach. Even if I'm doing like carry gold, grass-fed butter, it still fucks me up if I eat too much butter at once. Oh no, if you see me put butter on anything, it's, so I look at butter like it's cheese. Like it's, why not put a big slice of butter on the thing and then bite into it.

It's the lit. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, my mom would hide the butter because when I was little, she'd come back and she bites out of it when I was little. Oh, so it's a funny thing. Because even to this day, like if you're a restaurant or something,

I'm like just put pile in the butter on, like people just be concerned, be like, I don't like it. They think like, you're gonna have a heart attack or something. Yeah, like, just put pile in the butter on, like people will just be concerned, be like, I don't like it. They think like, you're gonna have a heart attack or something. Yeah. Yeah. No, speaking of kid stuff, I was gonna ask you, Sal,

because you know, yours is up to the one year mark and stuff, like, are you able to, and do you, does Jessica and you use like those apps that tell you about leaps and changes that they go through? So are you able to see that coming or know like when you're in a leap or when it's, it's relatively accurate.

It's very strange. I know. When you go through a leap, sleep is worse, you're clinging. And when he's out of the leap, he's like a different kid. You know, there's like new skills and stuff. And they still have him from,

oh yeah, no, that hasn't, I mean, he's what, two and a half, two and a half years old, and still we have these little growth spurts or leaps, whatever you wanna call them. Bro, you gotta tell the story of when you were in bed. Oh, God, that's so great. So this is like, okay, so. I don't know if you told Justin.

No, I don't tell, I think I was just talking to you about it, but so lately, so he's going through a leap right now. And one of the things that happens is like, cause he like is a great sleeper, but then there'll be these little moments where like a week will happen where he's just not sleeping great or he's waking up in the middle of the night and he's wide awake. And so, and because he's been also not feeling well, Katrina let him in the bed the night before last. And you guys, I, we've talked about, I sleep naked,

right? So he, he comes climbing in and he normally kind of cuddles over with Katrina. Well, he's in this playful mood at three o'clock in the morning, you know, two nights ago and he's just talking and being funny and, you know, pretending like I'm snoring, he gets in my face. And then he go over to Katrina and be like, shh, daddy, shh, daddy. And so he's just being cute. This is the middle of that. Yeah, it's two, three in the morning and he's being cute and funny, so I can't get mad.

And then we play this like pretend sleeping game, and I've added to that, right? I've told you guys about this before, where I pretend like I'm snoring and he'll do it. And the newest thing is I'll pretend like I'm snoring, and then Katrina will come over and kiss me, and I get startled, and he thinks it's the funniest thing. So he's over there, and he's pretending to to be sleeping and he's kissing me on the cheek to try and get me to jump and play with him

And I'm like half frustrated because I'm tired of shit, but then also that's so cute and it's funny Well, so he's messing with me and he normally isn't in the middle of night and I'm sleeping naked and he's in my face And as he's messing with me, his foot kicks my junk. And of course makes me kind of scoop back. So he thinks I'm playing with him. Oh no. And so he's giggling and he's kicking my dick. I'm thinking it's the funniest thing ever

because Daddy keeps moving and jumping. Now he has a target. Oh yeah. So he thinks it's the funniest thing ever. And I sit up and I'm laughing, but I'm frustrated at the same time. I'm like, Katrina, I'm like, you can't put this kid to bed. It's like, bro.

This kickin' me in the dick and he thinks it's hell of fun. You're being healed this weakness. Oh, dude. Yeah, no, the other day, so Jessica sent me a picture yesterday of Aralius. So she was changing, in the middle of changing, she was diaper, so he's the only one, right? Change is diaper.

And then she had to leave the room for like a split second. So he's, you know, bottom half naked, you know, crawling, he's in a little, you know, caged off area or whatever. And she comes back and he's sitting down. And it's the back of him. So she sends a picture. It's the back of him with his little butt crack

and he's sitting down and he's looking down. And I'm like, what's he looking at? And I'm like, oh, he's figured it out right now. He's, he's figured it out. Yeah, he's sitting in the corner.. He's so, he figured it out, yeah. He's sitting in the corner. And I was cracking up because he, I said, no, I'm like, what's he doing?

You know the funniest thing about that is, and I don't know how it is with you and Jess Cardinab, but Katrina is the youngest and a girl. So she's like, she's like, well, ask me, like, is that okay? Is that normal? Should we let him? Should we let him?

So he gets in the bath, right? He sits in the bath and he's in the somewhere phase right and the water is filling up and He loves to sit down. He like stretches his his ball sack Yeah, he's seen how far he could stretch it this that and Katrina's like it was telling him back no and I'm like Why you tell them no let him do that she's like we let him do that you do that I'm like of course I did all that if you freaking out. Yeah'm like, of course, I did all that. If you freak him out, make him me a yes, I'd have a big deal. Yeah, if you freak him out, then you'll think something's wrong.

Yeah, so now anytime he's doing anything, just try normal. I was like, yeah, do it all the time. I think I'm still doing it. Yeah, that's so, that's what we do. But it's funny when he does something like that. And then he'll have like, he gets these little, little boners, right?

And she's just like, is that normal? Do they just get like, as if he doesn't know, you know what I'm saying? Like, but yeah, it's total normal. Yeah. And you know what, what I had trouble doing is giving like little kid names to body parts. So like, you know, oh, don't touch your pp or whatever. And like, no, no, you got to use the real anatomically correct word

because otherwise it kind of stigmatizes. Right. Then he's thinking I was his friends in high school and he's referring to his pp. Yeah, or you just think it's, you know, you feel shameful and weird. I mean, when I was like, I was raised totally different. When I was a kid, we didn't talk about any of that shit.

Ever. And so I never had that relationship with my parents to do that kind of stuff. So I tried to be a little different, you know, with my team. Same, hence the last podcast where I talked about animal penises. That's just, you know, you try to normalize it. And then you look at some abnormal, you're like,

whoa, cool. That's what I do. I can't wait until our kids are old enough and listening to these archived episodes. Oh my God. Dad, did you really tell people I was doing the bad thing? You would be like, cringing. We're, we're, we're, now he's now putting words together, right?

So like we've, he's been saying single words for a while now. Now we're starting to pair. And one of his first words, the other and now, and it's just, oh my God, he gets me as a dad all the time. It's, please daddy. Oh. And it's just like, and he knows it's like this powerful thing now. Please daddy.

It's like, bro, how do I say no to that dude? A realist learns, he learned how to do this, and they're smart, right? He goes up to Jessica and he whispers in her ear, mama, and she just whatever. Oh, whatever you do. Oh my God, my heart is just melting. And I'm like, oh, little shit.

Terrible. This is so good. Totally. Cracksmith, you know what? I wanted to say, because you were talking about sleep, have you guys been able to consistently use the D-stress blend from bed? I have it.

You know, we got the samples. I went through two of the samples that we had. It's my favorite product. I haven't ordered yet. It's my farm. It's actually the only product that I haven't ordered after we did. It's palpable, the effect. You take it and about, if you're on an empty stomach, about 30 minutes, if you've eaten

maybe an hour and a half. Now remind me that the difference than just the full spectrum. So what is inside the de-stress that is not in the full spectrum? So the full spectrum, Hempoil Extract, is lots of different cannabinoids, dominated by CBD. So what you get from that is you get this really kind of the sense of well-being.

So if you take Ned's full spectrum, you'll feel it. By the way, the only CBD products, you'll actually feel a lot of stuff that's out there is crap. But if you take this, you'll feel it. By the way, the only CBD products, you'll actually feel a lot of stuff that's out there is crap. But if you take this, you'll feel it, you feel good, you feel calm, but energized, you feel happy, a little bit euphoria, relax, that kind of stuff. D-stress has a much higher amount of CBG. So CBG is a cannabinoid that is very relaxing.

Now, it's not like their sleep blend, which will knock you out. Like you do the sleep blend, you're going to sleep. De-stressed is not knock you out, but it melts you. Like you're just, oh man, I feel so calm and so chill and still. It's like an after work sort of product. Cause I still am hooked on mellow. I mean, that's just my first sleeping just because it's, there's gotta be some kind of deficiency

but like I get the deepest sleep of that. And then I use the sleep product more for when I'm traveling and I really need to knock myself out. But yeah, the mellow, I'm just like, I get such bad stuff. Well, they add other stuff too. So the D-stress also has ashwaganda, which is good for stress.

The sleep one has herbs that actually put you to sleep. And then mellow, the reason why I think, because I noticed that too, I think you and Adam are usable. Yes, I think that a lot of people, especially if you train hard, or you're under a lot of stress, your body is depleting.

That's the most stressful. And you'll notice, if you get a good form of magnesium, your body will utilize it, and that they put the forms of magnesium in there. Now back to the D stress and the CBG, because I have questions around that, because I remember when we first hooked up with Ned, I remember how much you really like talking to the guys when we first met the owners, and so with that, because of how they followed the science. Now, is there a motivation behind doing D stress,

as there have been stuff that has come out about that in particular cannabinoid? Yes, CBG is known as the parent cannabinoid and it does have this relaxing, calming, not sleepy effect on people. So, and there's lots of stuff coming out on lots of different cannabinoids. So you could probably expect more products where, and by the way, all cannabinoids work better in the presence of other cannabinoids. So that's why full spectrum is so important. But what you do with the formulations,

and here's why we worked with Ned, we've talked to a lot of other companies and the people don't know. If I know more than you do, and I'm a fitness guy, I'm not a cannabinoid scientist, I'm not gonna work with you, right? You gotta be able to school me, and I know quite a bit, but I'm not, guy, I'm not a cannabinoid scientist. I'm not gonna work with you, right? You gotta be able to school me, and I know quite a bit, but I'm not, again, a scientist,

and they really know their stuff, and so what they'll do is they'll make formulations where it's full spectrum, but there's higher amounts of specific cannabinoids depending on that what they're trying to get your body to do. For example, I predict, at some point in the future, there'll be something that's higher in CBC, because that's very neuroprotective for the brain.

We know the effects of CBD, everybody's familiar with that. They're CBG. And then there's other cannabinoids that have interesting effects on the body that I think that they'll put more of that particular cannabinoid again in that full spectrum. What's all the hype around the Delta 8 stream? Oh, you mean of THC? Yeah.

There's Delta 8, Delta 9. I know that one of them is more psychoactive than the other. I can't remember which one. And I know that when you eat THC, your liver converts it to a form of THC that is longer. It's like a hydroxy, something.

Yeah, that's longer acting. It ends up, yeah. That's why when you smoke or vape or whatever, you get, you know, you feel the effects but then it goes away faster. This is when you take an edible and it's longer acting. It ends up, yeah. That's why when you smoke or vape or whatever, you get, you know, you feel the effects, but then it goes way faster. This is when you take an edible and it stays longer. It's just a different form of THC and it just goes away. I guess it's just gained popularity,

but there's a lot of people claiming it. Speaking of, that's been popular for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of variants, by the way, we have to address, good segue. We have to address the new, we gotta freak out the new code. Omnicorn.

Tell me what to be scared of. Where do they get these names? What is it? Omnicron? Omnicron. Omnicron. So where do the names come from? Greek alphabet.

By the way, they skipped a letter. Is that how the hurricanes, how do we get hurricanes names? They're named after people. Yeah. Hurricane's named after people. Yeah, they also go in alphabetical order. Or do they?

Yeah, they go in alphabetical order. So they're named after people, but I know they go in alphabetical order. So this is the Greek alphabet. So this is the Greek alphabet. Except we skipped Z. X, I. So we skipped that letter.

Do you guys wanna guess why? Why would we do that? They actually said why. They don't want that. Because that's the name of the president of China. Is Z? Yeah, he's got that same name. So they're like, they don't want that because that's the name of the president of China Is he yeah, he's got that same name so they're like we don't want to do this because we don't want to you know Yeah, this this new variant is drumming up these Fiers again, and this these new policies. I really hope People start to realize that the that the old kind of draconian approaches, we can't keep doing that.

We can't keep doing that. And here's the thing, there's a single virologist or scientist as expert in this field that says that it's going away. It's endemic. Yeah. So we have to figure out how to live with it and we can't keep locking shit down. That's not that's causing so many unintended downstream consequences that are actually becoming worse, that we need to stop that. We need to stop that policy. Even with people being vaccinated,

the variants are emerging. So it's just something that we just gotta live with. So now we have to figure out ways and policies to bring us back to normalcy within the way we live. I believe most people agree. Even when we're in the worst place, when it comes to shit. That's all we still talk about. It's still everybody else is just partying.

If you go somewhere, if you go to another state, it's like, wait till, you and I fly out in a week or two, we head over to Arizona, right? We're ready. Watch them. We're there. Watch them in Arizona and then compare it to just coming back to the grocery store here I have a buddy that that moved to Texas and he was like Bro, it's a different world. Yeah, he's like it's a totally different world out here

I think the problem is is that I've talked about this before if you look at the science and You say if people wear masks, it's gonna reduce the spread. If people isolate, it's gonna reduce the spread. True, true. The problem is we're completely disregarding human behavior, which says this, we could tell people to wear masks all day long, they're not gonna use them properly. That's why when they do the comparisons with the states, with the crazy, you know, with the really strict mask,

you know, laws versus the ones that don't have them, we don't see that big of a difference. Same thing with the crazy, you know, with the really strict mask, you know, laws versus the ones that don't have them. We don't see that big of a difference. Same thing with the lockdowns. You could tell people to lock down, but what ends up happening, human behavior is people if there's higher cases, people naturally avoid crowded areas or they go to more crowded areas depending on what's going on. And that's again why you don't accept, here's a big difference. The lockdowns and the mandates destroy economy,

small businesses and cause lots of other unintended consequences. That's why I'm hoping people don't fall for that shit again and just say, no, we're cool with that. We'll manage our own precautions, we'll be careful, but we don't need you to shut everybody down and lock all the shit down anymore. We gotta stop that.

Yeah, so the biggest thing with slowing the spread was that we were hoping that at that point, we keep people safe, we don't overload our hospitals and so it was a volume thing, right? But then you see in other states where it actually kind of passed through pretty quickly and people recovered or unfortunately, we've seen a lot of cases where it's like,

we try to slow it, but it ends up like making its way through the population regardless of all these procedures. Well, the whole healthcare, so I've had people tell me that. Well, the whole reason for these policies is to not, cause too much of a load on the medical system, right? Meanwhile, we're laying off people. That's the part that I don't know actually.

She had them. No, that's not, if that were true, then what we wouldn't, we wouldn't have a bunch of nurses in, in healthcare practice, who by the way were the brave people when this all first started, nobody knew what the hell was going on, who still chose to go to work, wearing crazy gear and expose themselves to God knows what because at the time we didn't know. Now these same people were like, hey, you don't follow our mandate, you're out, but we need you so bad. Like, that doesn't jive, none of this jive.

So I hope people are like done. Like, cause I know I am. Like, oh, we're gonna lock everything down. No, you get the middle finger. Yeah, it's a, we're done. Sorry, your policies. Kick racks. I'll take my own precautions,

and I think, you know, in a free country we should be able to do, and I think people should be smart. But these crazy broad spanning, like, that's like your one trick pony. Like you're going to keep dropping the same card every time another very... I find it ironic that it's very similar to what our podcast is based on is that we talk a lot about this science that's out there related to health and fitness. And then what we do is help people unpack that and apply it to their lives.

It's what's happened in this situation is that the science is out there, what you like you said by, you know, staying in your house locked up with a mask on would obviously lower your chances of getting COVID or spreading it. But the reality of that is that most people's behaviors don't align with that. Right. Right. So there's got to be some sort of practical advice that comes out of this that okay We know with the science supports. We know what's in the best interest of everybody do it the reality is most people won't do this

Most people won't do that. So where do we meet in the middle that is the best place for solution that'll actually we're right here Here's the most obvious example of ignoring human behavior. You got second graders in classrooms, in California, required to wear masks. You know how hard it is to get a second grader to not keep their socks on? See, it's ridiculous. They're touching their shit all the time and wiping their faces and it's a waste of time. What are you doing making these kids wear masks? It's a complete way to turn them. They're pitting their nose and fling boogers and everybody.

It's like, come on, dude. I had to pull max out of gymnastics because that just went live over in our area. So we, yeah, I brought that up to you guys, but so his school not doing it, so they're like, we're not gonna mandate, because I mean, it's a mandate, it's not a law. So a lot of these places.

I thought a mandate was a law. No, so they have the ability to kind of be like, well, we're not gonna do it, we're not gonna do it, or we are gonna do it. So it's not like it's a law that everybody has to do this. There's a lot of businesses that are just saying, we're not gonna abide by this. Yeah, but they could get fined or something.

Sure, yeah, absolutely. And so what happened like in our school, this is what happened at our, his monastery school was, enough parents came forward and said, listen, if you get fined, we'll pay for it. We'll pay for it. I could trade off for that You said listen tell us what the fine is and if no one else will support and help we'll pay for the fine because we want our Kid to still come here socialize be it be in school But we're sure shit don't want some adult trying to you know for some ask on him every two minutes when he's when he's pointed off and The exactly what they said back is like,

we're not, this is what the majority of the people that are here are saying, so we're just gonna go with that. But then I had the gymnastics, which was the opposite. And the irony of that is the gymnastics isn't this massive open area. There's like all this space between the kids. So it's easily... Okay, here's what blows my mind.

I know I'm going on a rant here, but here's what blows my mind. I would figure people by now would see things that are clearly logical. Like it's too hypocritical to subscribe. Well, it's crazy. Like wrestling matches. You know, there are schools that do not let the swart of God. You guys can't shake before the match. And then they wrestle. Yeah. Yeah. What explained that? It makes no sense. Or it's gotta be some people that are making these decisions that just think it's a funny practical joke.

You gotta think that there's some other fuckers that are just like, you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna tell people that can't do this. And then behind the scenes, they're laughing about it all the people that abide by all the things that are to get it. It just shows how easy it is to manipulate people in a state of fear.

How many is it totally? Is it scare people? And the problem is we got a lot of cowards. We haven't had a lot of shit in a state of fear. How many is it totally? Is it scare people? And the problem is we got a lot of cowards. We haven't had a lot of shit in a long time. So what we're left with is a bunch of cowards that get very easily afraid. And please tell me what to do. Make it go away.

And then pose their fears and everybody else, because that's all they know how to do. And then you see those videos of politicians, like before the cameras turn on, no mask. Oh, cameras turn on, put the mask on. It's freaking I mean, I feel like it's I feel like it's swinging back though, dude. Even this this new very I actually didn't even know this new Very came out. So just like the yesterday like it like no, I don't feel that it's it's getting the same They're trying the news is trying to make it scary. It was the same though

It started out real slow and then eventually, you know it caught on and then people got sprayed again. It's just, it's this perpetual cycle that the ticket advantage. Yeah, but I feel like people just are not receiving the same way that they were before. I feel like when it was, when there was a lot more unknown and we didn't have other studies from other countries

and more information that you could, and understandably so, because it is so known. That's where I kind of understand some people's reactions in fear out of it because there's one, there's tons of misinformation, there's tons of conflicting information, and there's a lot of unknowns.

So understandably so, a lot of people leaned on being more cautious than just being like fuck it in reckless. So I understand that, but now it's been around long enough, we've seen enough shit come out that I believe that more, and more people are the media's narrative is a bunch of bullshit. No one you just brought this up to the day about how much that's dropping the trust in the media. So I think even though it's the headlines right now, I don't get the sense of people in my family or friends or people that I know are like freaking out about another variant. I think they're just like it is what it is.

I hope you're right, dude, because I'm about to remember we're in the fucking worst place here in New York. You mean California? Yeah. It's all in New York. Here in New York are like the new season in Cancun right now. Just after job. Oh man.

By the way, I want to be clear for some people it's very dangerous. It exists. I'm not one of those people that's like, it's not real, it's a conspiracy, it's all real, but we're now, how many years into it, and it's not going away, and we have to make the choice to accept it, and then take personal responsibility because these wide, ranging, like, nets that they're dropping over cities and states, and maybe even even the country with these crazy policies, the unintended consequences, the side effects of it are worse and they're not working

because they're negating human behavior. It's almost like, I have a little cut that's getting infected on my leg and my doctor's like, gotta cut the leg off. We gotta make sure that that doesn't, you know, it doesn't spread. And you know, I ended up in amputee because I had, can I use some back teeth? I'm gonna wash the,

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Com forward slash Mind Pump. And then use the code Mind Pump 10 for 10% off your order. All right, here comes the rest of the show. First question is from Wake Man Tyler. What type of deadlift is better? Sumer, Sumo, or conventional? I like this dude.

I like this. I like this split stance deadlift. That's the better. I made that up. You know, which one's better? I don't know. Depends on who's asking me. They're both valuable.

I would say. They're different exercises. I think that's the first thing you have to point. Yeah. I think the fact that. That's what I mean. Who's asking me and why they're asking me, I think that's the first thing you have to point. I think the fact that, that's what I mean, who's asking me and why they're asking me, right? What their goal is, right? What their goal is and what they've been currently doing,

all that stuff, it's a depends answer is you're right. I mean, the problem is they have deadlift in the name, so people consider that, and because powerlifting competitions allow them to be interchangeable, people think that they are interchangeable in the sense that one is equal to the other and what's the difference, but they're not, they're totally different exercises.

In terms of leverage, right? It doesn't have, one feels a little bit more natural than the other, sometimes for people, I know for me, I probably should have stuck with sumo just in the way that, you know, it feels in terms of the leverage with it, but they're totally different exercises. This is what we need to express.

Yeah, they both work the posture of your chain quite a bit. You're going to get some back development. Um, bodybuilders tend to prefer if they do deadlift conventional, although in the 90s, there was a bodybuilder, Mike Fronswall, Michael Fronswall, incredible back. Erector Spanay was huge and he was a sumo deadlift. So was Colombo, wasn't he? Colombo was conventional. Oh, he did both, because I know I've seen him do Sumo.

Yeah, but conventional is where he would pull like seven pounds. But I mean, again, it depends. I like them both. I mean, I like the Sumo for to feel more in the glutes for some people, although some people feel the glutes more with conventional. I think Sumo for some people's easy to learn, especially if you're shorter, women tend to be able to perform Sumo easier in the sense that they get the biomechanics easier than conventional.

If you're tall and lanky, you're built for conventional, and you'll see people who can deadlift a lot who are tall and lanky, they tend to stick to conventional because it works better with the leverage. For the average person, I think there's tremendous value and you're doing both. Learn both exercises. And the one you like best or you do the best at, make that your staple and then intermittently use the other one.

I mean, that's what I do. Conventional deadlifting, I'm much stronger in, I'm better at it, I like it more. But I definitely sumo deadlift. I just, I like to interrupt my deadlifting with sumo deadlifting every now and then and train that way for a block. And then I go back to conventional

because they are different exercises and they both, even though there's carry over to the, both of them, they have value of both being in your routine. Yeah, I did conventional for a long time and I got really good at it. And then I remember saying, you know, getting a kind of hit a plateau. So I wanted to do sumo for a long time and I got really good at it and then I remember saying you know getting I kind of hit a plateau. So I wanted to do sumo for a little while just see if it would break through the plateau and what I noticed was I had this kind of external you know hip abduction weakness right

my pushing my knees out staying stable was actually quite hard for me because I hadn't trained sumo for a long time. So I ended up training Sumo for a while and got my Sumo deadlift within range of my conventional. I think my conventional at the time was 560 or something like that. I think I got my Sumo up to 500, so that's within 60 pounds. But then when I went to my back to my conventional, I did feel really stable in it. And I think it's just because I addressed, I did feel really stable in it. And I think it's just because I addressed some of those weaknesses in imbalances.

So I do think it's important to do both. You could probably favor one over the other. But I also don't think they're interchangeable. I think that they are different enough to where you're gonna get different benefits for me the one. But they are both, you know, posterior chain exercises, glute, heavy, hamstring, heavy, they're both gonna get, create a lot of tension on the back.

You're probably gonna get more back activation from conventional than you will from Sumo just because of the leverage or more bent over. But both great exercises and, you know, what makes exercises better or worse, a lot of it depends on the individual, what they need to work on, what's better for them. Like for example, we talk about the squat

being a great exercise all the time, but if somebody lacks the mobility and the stability to do a squat, it's not a great exercise yet for them, right? We got to work up to that point. So that's I think the key takeaway with this particular question. Next question is from Lord Pat, do macro split ratios matter? If so, how do I adjust my macros to fit what's right for me?

Does he mean like a percentage of protein, percentage of carbs, percentage of fat? That sounds like it sounds like that. That's what it sounds like. We didn't just talk about this recently, where we, I think we addressed this where we said that, you know, protein is the main one, right? Yeah, for most people, right? Yeah, The percentage of that matters the most, right? Exactly, there's always exceptions to rule if you have some sort of issue with carbohydrates

or certain types of foods. But if you are hitting your protein intake, so whatever percentage of your calories is enough for you to hit whatever said grams of protein. Like for example, 200 grams is mine. So however, what percentage that is is enough for you to hit whatever said grams approach. For example, 200 grams is mine. So, however, what percentage that is of how many total calories that should stay consistent.

Then the other two, you can manipulate and play with. And I encourage that. I think it's a good idea to try a higher carb intake, a higher percentage for a while, see how your body responds, how your workouts are, how you like it, then go to a higher fat and lower carb type of a diet, and something in the middle. I think with clients, I love to teach that all different ways

so they can give me the feedback on what they notice. Well, I like that as like the first introduction, especially as the focus on acquiring protein in your diet, if it's something that you don't really see as a coach, like that they're getting enough of it, because this is a essential macronutrient, that and fat. And so a lot of times, if you get it from an animal source, you're going to get the combo of both.

And to then manipulate your carbohydrates based off of how you feel, energy levels, and where you're at in terms of body fat, and all that kind of stuff, and then start where you're at in terms of body fat and all that kind of stuff. And then start to get more serious in terms of figuring out the percentages and really get into it as you progress with your training and nutrition.

Yeah, I think with macros, it's important to understand that two of the three macros are essential. In other words, you have to eat a certain amount of protein to thrive, and you have to eat a certain amount of fat to thrive. Carbohydrates are not essential. What that means is you can eat zero carbs,

and your body's still gonna have everything it needs to function and to live. That doesn't mean it's optimal. It just means you don't need to eat carbohydrates. So carbohydrates tend to be the one that people will fluctuate and work with the most. And you tend to trade that with fat. So long as your fat intake doesn't go below essential. And then, you know, what you said Adam about protein, again, there's always individual

variances, but the generally speaking study show high protein is better for building muscle, burning body fat, satiety. So it's one of those macronutrients you want to keep consistent. But this is really different from person to person. I personally do better with a moderate to lower carbohydrate intake. I perform better, I feel better. Higher carbohydrates don't tend to work for me very well. But I do know people where that's the opposite,

where they more carbs and less fats, and they feel really good. I do recommend you go through cycles of each one to see how it affects your body and how you feel. I think the only way to really know is kind of move through it, test it out, become aware of the feelings like, okay, if I eat carbs, I've got better workouts, but I notice some digestive issues or my fat intake is too high.

I just feel lethargic. Some people feel lethargic from too much fat intake. So that's really the big thing. And then of course, overall calories, right? If your calories are right, that'll help with the gaining or losing of weight. That has to be a part of the formula. Next question is from Omar MBA 1. You often make the distinction between mobility and the traditional end range, passive and static stretches. Do you see any benefit in static stretches? When would they be prescribed over mobility work?

Yeah, you know, I'll tell you a huge benefit of static stretching that I... The program to mem prime. But yeah, we did, but I'll tell you an interesting thing that I noticed from static stretching that I used to recommend to someone my clients, and now I'm noticing it even with myself. The way that static stretching works is so you get into a stretch and you hold it, right? This is a traditional stretching. So I'll get in a hamstring stretch and I'll hold it for 30 seconds. Some people a minute or longer and what you'll notice is while you're holding the stretch, the muscle starts to loosen up and

lengthen because that's the central nervous system saying, we can relax, we need to not be so tight, allow this muscle to elongate, right? Now the benefit of that is it relaxes your central nervous system, static stretching before bad. And now it depends on the person. If I'm dealing with someone's hyper-mobile, it doesn't have good strength and stability. I'm not going to have them do any static stretching. But if I'm working with the average person and they have issues with sleep and stuff, and they're tense, do 30 minutes of static stretching and watch your CNS just overall calm down

and relax. I've been doing this at night and getting better sleep. So that's one interesting benefit from static stretch. Yeah, I like to, I like to use static stretches if I've had a really hard workout and I get tight. I feel this tightness throughout the workout and I feel like it's something that I really need to, you know, address at the end of the workout and also why are you the end of the workout because I'm trying to get into the parasympathetic state. I'm trying to calm everything down. And so to apply something that is more passive versus like active where I'm trying to calm the central nervous system down, I want to start going through that by doing static stretches because it does help you to breathe slower, helps you to kind of like relax in these positions and then form into these positions. So, you know, these muscles can calm down

so they're not so tense. Both workout. This is where it's amazing and ideal. I think that, and I would prefer it even over mobility. And it's not to say that mobility doesn't work there also and wouldn't have its application. But I just think that you're, to your point, Justin, you're trying to calm the central nervous system down

and you're trying to relax. You've already had the hard workout. Now I want to chill and I want to recover. So to that point, before you go to bed, maybe when I'm watching TV at night time, I'll get down and just relax and sit in a 90-90, about actually moving through it. So it's it still has value. I think that the the main thing that we wanted to address was static stretching was that it was it was poorly used in the past like a before a workout. Yeah. Like I mean we're talking about watching TV before you go to bed and after workout all times when you want to chill out, relax, become, turn muscles down. Yeah, exactly. And chill. You saw you would see people doing this and on my biggest pet peeve was coaches that were

doing it with athletes before they get ready for a soccer game. You want to turn muscles up? Yeah, exactly. You're getting ready to have these kids sprint all over soccer field and you're doing these one minute long hamstring stretches and holds. It's like you don't want to calm down right before that. You want them to move better. Yes. So doing something like mobility work far more superior in that situation. But post game or post workout to relax and still get benefits of stretching. Great time to do that. Now here's where you may see some exceptions to that rule to get into something. Yeah, like let's say I'm working on overhead mobility with a client and the thing that's

really getting in the way is they're super tight lats. So it's hard for me to even get them in that position to activate the muscles I want because the lats are so tight. So then what I'll do is a static stretch on the lats, get the lats to chill out, get out of the way, and then I can activate the muscles in that new range of motion to improve mobility. Static stretching also has studies that show that it builds muscle. Now, it's not a great muscle builder, but when you first start doing it,

there's this initial muscle building effect you get then you don't have to go into. Those are all the same studies that yoga people like to tout to prove that yoga builds muscle. Yeah, no. Now, you'll build muscle if you're activating and you wanna stuff, but just static stretching by itself has this little short window of muscle building.

And what's funny is body builders for a long time, some body builders would advocate for really deep static stretching in between sets or after the workouts, and they notice better pumps and more muscle, and that kind of stuff. So there is an interesting kind of effect there, but yeah, as far as static stretching being used

as a warm up, generally not a great idea. I like it at the end of a workout. And by the way, you mentioned something just about breathing and calming down. I learned this years ago from a young lady that I worked with. She was very knowledgeable on this, and she would see me getting these static stretches, and I grit my teeth and hold my breath. And she's like, do you really think your central nervous system is gonna calm down with you tensing up and holding your breath? And I was like, oh, you're totally right.

She's like, calm everything down and breathe. So the CNS is getting lots of signals that say, can relax and allow this muscle to elongate. And it was a game changer for me. Yeah, belly breathing, diaphragmatic breathing. Like if you're holding this tense position for so long, you're gonna keep carrying that stress and it's going to keep perpetuating that. Next question is from EM Reina.

What's the difference between sugar and artificial sweeteners on our body? Oh, yeah. Love, I love this. There's always such a debate so much. Okay. Big difference artificial sweeteners have no calories. Sugar has, you know, four calories per gram, right? So those calories in sugar, no calories in artificial sweetener.

The brain perceives the sweetness in similar ways. In fact, the perception of sweetness is actually stronger with artificial sweeteners. This is why people who drink lots of diet sodas will actually start to prefer the taste of them over sugar sodas because the artificial sweetener actually hits that sweet perception a little bit more than sugar. Now the big debate is, well, can they help you lose weight? Okay, so earlier in this episode, right, in the intro, we talked about human behavior. Here's where, again, we talked about human behavior.

Here's where, again, we got to apply human behavior. Yes, if you cut 30 grams of sugar at your out of your diet, replace it with artificial sweeteners and keep everything else exactly the same, you're cutting your calories, you're probably going to lose some weight. Here's why that never happens in real-world studies. Nobody accounts for the human behavior aspect of it. When people reduce their sugar through artificial sweeteners, they almost always replace those calories again with other foods. And it's because, again, it encourages that behavior. That sweet perception makes you kind of want to eat more,

you want it again. You want to seek out more of that novelty. Yeah, and then here's another big one, right? And I remember talking with Adam about this because you were a competitor, so you tracked everything so much, and I remember we had this huge discussion about it, and it was like this light bulb moment for both of us, where especially for people who are conscious of their physique

and their health, sugar has this natural kind of block, right? Like, oh, there's calories, so I can only have one soda, because it there's calories. So I can only have one soda because it's 150 calories, so I'll just have one. Then the same physique, you know, conscious individual will be like, oh, diet soda, zero calories. I'll just drink those all day long. And then they tend to create this dysfunctional pattern

because they don't have that block or that, you know, that speed bump that calories would provide. Now they think it's like free for all because, you know, artificial sweeteners don't have any calories. Do you know when we're artificial sweeteners invented? Do you remember? I don't know if they're invented, but I know that they hit the market.

I think in the 70s, maybe Doug can look me up. He was like, not neutral sweet. What was the main sweeten-low? I think it was the first one. I think Asper-Tame. Asper-Tame sweeten-low. Or no, there was another one that starts with an S. Not super low.

I don't know. Zacharyn. Zacharyn. I think Zacharyn was one of the first ones. And I'm asking because are there still some things that are unknown for us? Do you think that we know everything about like, is there been enough time and studies around it

to safely say, oh, it's completely harmless, and there's nothing else going on. It's just, I don't think anything's ever completely harmless. There's still people still call all the time and we'll call the poison control because they have this weird reaction to artificial sweetener. So nothing's ever in there, not even water,

you can drink too much water and kill yourself. There's a lot of debate around it. There's interesting animal studies, but human studies so far show this. They don't help you lose weight. Are there health, negative health effects? I don't know, probably not, but maybe animal studies show some interesting stuff with cancer, with some of these artificial sweeteners, but they give them such high doses that it would be super likely for humans to consume. That's always the debate for the person supporting artificial sweeteners is that, and when they counter somebody who says something negative about them,

and it's like, oh, you looked at the first of all their animal studies and the amounts that you would have to drink, 50 coaks in a day to even become close to what they're talking about. But I've always been curious to what we know and what we don't know about them. And if they've only been around your sanks since the 70s, or what would you find? Well, saccharin was invented way before. 1897.

Whoa. Now, hold on, what was the original, it was in an ex, what were they trying to create? Yeah, so they're looking for new uses for cold tar derivatives. This was that John Hopkins University. It's an oil and tar and yeah, they make so many different variations.

So what were they trying to do? So, look at this, he forgot to wash his hands before lunch and tasted something sweet on his fingers. This is like the, like the Viagra story where they try to invent a drug for something and they're like, wait a minute. We can make great boners. Yeah, we can make this.

Wait a minute, Anna Fries has a nice sweet flavor to it. Let's reduce this down and put it in cereal. What is it saying else? Yeah, it's a fun fact here. Monsanto got its start in 1901 selling saccharine. Why is Monsanto? No, I did not know that. Why is there a really interesting podcast about all this?

Joe, we had the guy like the investigated like Monsanto and their podcast about all this. You're gonna have the guy that investigated like Monsanto and their start and all that. Yeah, and it had like all these different pathways they were able to create a lot of these types artificial sugars, a lot of different types of pesticides and all this from, you know, oil products and like left over things. Wow.

Here's another interesting thing. By 1907, saccharine was already widely used in sodas and canned goods, but most Americans had no idea it was in their food. Mmm. That's nice. What does it say there about Teddy Roosevelt? Uh... That guy was, by the way, you ever, you ever hear, read his story?

He's literally the most alpha, he's like Batman. That's actually bad, Batman was based off of the guy. Was he? Bro. No way, really? Teddy Roosevelt literally purposely went to fight in war because he wanted to be on the front lines, didn't listen to his orders and went to the front line to fight. He was going to fight those guys running our country anymore.

They're out there. What's his deal with? Those humans still exist. I just why don't we vote for those people anymore? Yeah, so what happened was this guy who was ahead of the USDA recommended banning saccharin because it's possibly toxic. But it was Teddy Roosevelt that said, no, let's not do this because I'm using it to lose weight. Interesting.

So. Oh wow. Now saccharin is not really used that much anymore because I think it got a bad wrap for a little while. Well, so what the audience, so was it in the animal studies where they were talking about the gut flora and it affecting it in any way,

or is that just something that a lot of wellness people kind of brought up? It's controversial. It's not 100% in one way or the other. Okay, they'll say it is on either side. Sure. Like some studies will say, it changes the way that you've got microbiome,

you know, reacts to insulin or reduces insulin sensitivity, or it kills certain bacteria, then you'll see people say, no, it doesn't. So, I mean, look, here's a deal. You're probably okay having some of it. If it's, if you're trying to lose weight with it, unless you're counting and tracking everything with it, unless you're counting

and tracking everything, it's not going to work, the study shows this. Simply cutting out sugary foods, but not controlling everything else, what typically happens is you'll replace it with other calories, and it does change your perception to sweetness. It's so strong that if you have lots of artificial sweeteners, you will start to find that you need your food to be sweeter and sweeter for you to perceive it with the same level of sweetness. And this can pose a problem for anybody trying to change their diet or eat healthier. I mean, when you pick up a fruit and it tastes bland because your diet coke has rewired how you perceive sweetness, well, that can turn into an issue.

So I have personally never used artificial sweeteners as a way to help my clients lose weight. I've always found it to be super ineffective. The only times I have were with competitors who track the hell out of everything. Otherwise, I totally stayed away. Look, if you like our information, you'll love MindPumpFree.com.

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