Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1719: What to Do If You Are Doing the Right Things but Still Gaining Weight, Overcoming the Tendency to Overtrain, How to Train for an Obstacle Course Race With Limited Time & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: January 1, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: How TV is making you fat. (2:17) The wild world of Crypto/NFTs! (14:36) Why Elon Musk thinks the Metaverse sucks. (23:28) The guys on having the puberty talk with their children. (28:04) How drug smugglers have gotten very creative. (33:36) Psychic tales with Mind Pump. (36:18) Car-Jitsu, the weirdest new BJJ promotion. (43:02) #LiveListener question #1 – With my tendency to overtrain, what program would you recommend after completing MAPS Split? (48:04) #LiveListener question #2 – If I have limited time to train each day for a rucking event, how would you train for it? (59:49) #LiveListener question #3 – What can I do when I feel like I am doing the right things, but still gaining weight? (1:09:16) #LiveListener question #4 – How can I train for obstacle course race with limited time? (1:22:41) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] December Promotion: MAPS HIIT and MAPS SPLIT 50% off! **Promo code “DECEMBER50” at checkout** Processed foods make up 70 percent of the U.S. diet Rapper Tory Lanez sells 1 million copies of NFT album in 57 seconds Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey are talking about ‘Web3’ – here’s what it is and why it matters FULL INTERVIEW: Elon Musk Sits Down With The Babylon Bee Police catch pigeon wearing 'backpack' full of ketamine pills in apparent drug-smuggling attempt ‘Car Jitsu’ - Watch the weirdest new BJJ promotion Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Fitness Performance MAPS Fitness Anabolic Mind Pump #1715: Ten Mistakes Fitness Trainers Make Mind Pump #1700: Seven Ways To Get Great Gains In 30 Minutes Or Less MAPS Strong What is Rucking? - GORUCK MP Hormones Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum Mind Pump #1710: The #1 Rule Of Fitness MAPS O.C.R. Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Eddie Bravo (@eddiebravo10p)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Today's episode we had live callers, so they actually called in and got coached on air on the show. By the way, if you want to be on a show, ask us questions about fitness and health.

Email your question to live at mindpumpmedia.com. Now, the way we opened the episode was with an intro portion. Today's intro was 46 minutes long, where we talk about current events and fitness and studies. After that, we got to the live question. So here's what went down in today's show. We opened up a time on how TV is making you fat.

Then we talked about the rapper who sold a million NFTs in under a minute made over $3 million. Then we talked about how Elon Musk says that the metaverse sucks. Justin talks about having the puberty talk with one of his sons. I talk about some creative drug smuggling, and Adam actually gives us some advice.

Then I talk about the time I went into a psychics office and act like a jerk. And then we talked, we showed videos of Karjitsu. It's a new type of Jiu-Jitsu tournament being conducted right now. Then we got to the question. So the first one was from Lauren from New Jersey. Now she has a tendency to overdo it and over train. So if that's you, listen to that part. The next question was from Justin from Tennessee

limited time, but he wants to go rock. So we talked about how to train for that. The next question was Bailey from Minnesota, and she said, look, I feel like I'm doing all the right things, but I'm still getting wait, what's the deal? And then the final question was Micah from Alabama. He has limited time, but wants to train for an obstacle course race. Also these are the final hours for our December sale. So the sale is half off maps hit, that's high intensity interval training, and half off maps split. That's a bodybuilder's split advanced workout routine. So two different workout programs, two different types of goals,

both 50% off. So if you're interested, head over to mapsfitinistproducts.com and use the code December 50, that's December 5-0 with no space for that discount. Here's your fitness tip today. TV is making you fat. What do you guys think about that? What do you guys think about that?

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don't eat in front of the television or your phone. Like just, just like that. I'm distracted eating. And it blew my mind how many people became so much more aware. It's very similar to the advice that before social media became so popular, so the advice I used to give where I'd tell someone just to track.

Like just becoming aware, automatically makes you start to make better decisions because many times we're so unaware of what we're even doing. And I think today's time we're distracted more than we've ever been. So instead of giving a client these crazy restrictions and saying, can't do this, can't do that,

or follow this meal plan, just saying, hey, let's first do this. Let's cut out some of these bad habits that don't allow you to be aware of your body's natural signals that are trying to tell you. Are there hilarious that you have to actually visually watch the food go into your mouth? They'll make a massive impact.

Yeah, I like to watch it when you read it. I know. You know, really when they do studies on this, they find people reduce their calories by 10 to 15%. Just by not being distracted. Yeah. Just because they're, and what it is, yeah, it's definitely awareness,

but really what's the way they explain it is, you get signals from, you know, hormones that your body releases like Grel, they explain it is, you get signals from, you know, hormones that your body releases like Grellin and, you know, as your stomach stretches, your brain will get signals. But if you're focused on something else, it isn't registered as quickly. And you end up eating, and some of my think,

oh, 10% more calories, what is that? Well, if you eat 400 calories, it's 40 more calories, and you add it up throughout the day. Yeah, and if you always, It's always, 300 calories a day. And if you always eat in front of the TV, which a lot of people say, Or on front of your phone.

And I'm guilty, by the way, I'm guilty of this. I think driving their car, advice like this, I think what ends up happening is, I see it in my own behaviors. And I think, okay, I'm a fitness professional, I'm aware of these things. This, I slip up on this so my clients have got to. They're not thinking about fitness,

like I'm thinking about it 24-7. And if this gets me caught up, you gotta think the average person who's not thinking about fitness all day, it's not their career, this probably happens a lot. Yeah, you know what's funny? Is, now I'm thinking back, right? My oldest son was, he wasn't the best eater

when he was a kid. And, you know, in my culture, like that's a bad, that's bad. That's not good, right? So, we gotta make sure he eats more. Right. And when my son would get fed by his grant, he'd both, either one of his grandmas,

what they would do to get him to eat more is they would distract him with television. And then he'd watch the TV and then the spoon would go in front of his mouth and he'd just open it and eat the food. So it was like, and I mean, looking back, now it's clear what was happening is he was being distracted so we could feed him.

It's funny that you just said that because what made, like I told the guys today, like, oh, I have the fitness tip. What made me think about this and why this was on my mind was exactly that. you just said that because what made, like I told the guys today, like, oh, I have the fitness tip. What made me think about this and why this was on my mind was exactly that. I'm guilty of this. So I'm guilty of using the iPad to kind of distract Max to get him to like just sit still and eat. And it's, and I've used that as a tool so many times that so last night, Katrina and I were like, oh, the house,

we've got a lot of everything done. We're kind of relaxing. Well, we're all gonna have dinner together. And you know, instead of, because what happens right now is we normally feed Max and then Katrina and I have our dinner afterwards by ourselves. And instead, we're like, oh, let's have dinner

as a family today. And obviously for having dinner as a family, there's no reason to have iPad on the table or anything like that. And so it disrupted that normal pattern that we do with him. And he wasn't having it. And I was like, oh, fuck, look what I did. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Look at, look at I just did is I've allowed us to make that a kind of a ritual for when he's eating so he could sit down there and watch his cartoons and eat his food and anybody that's done that with their kid,

they know that it's nice because it gets them to settle down and sit still and they're not always this. So food manufacturers, I don't know whether they did this on purpose or maybe on accident, I don't know, but they started, because remember TV didn't exist up until, well, widespread up until probably what? The 60s and 70s dug out.

When do you think TV started becoming kind of commonplace in American homes? Which I say it what? The 60s and 70s, when do you think TV started becoming kind of commonplace in American homes? Which I say it's probably the 70s and 70s. When did you stop listening to the radio for your entertainment? You gotta remember, I grew up with no TV. Oh, that's right. So I'm the wrong person to ask.

I mean, I think the TV first came out in the 50s, right? It did, but it really didn't become commonplace like 70s? Like, yeah, when was it, when was it, because like now the average home has like 2.3 or so. There's more televisions than children in home's right? That's the average Maybe you could look that I'm gonna look this up because I don't know the answer

Yeah, but I so what happened was TV became it was this new thing right? It's like oh my gosh You got movies in your in your house and then there's all this broadcasting what's going on and they started to Design and create foods TV dinners TV dinners became a thing, you remember that, right? They don't only make those... Oh, I'm a dream man and all that kind of stuff. They don't even... Go ahead, Doug. And the TV trays.

Yeah, so it was only around 9% of Americans own TVs in the 1950s, but by 1960, that figured figure had jumped to over 80%. There you go. And then you started... You said by the 80s, at least? No, 1960s. 1960s. Yeah, 1960 Okay, and then today will be a neat stat to look up is what the average how many TVs are in the average American home now like there's now It's not it went from very rare for someone to have it to most 80% of Americans have it to now most people have multiple Remember the okay, do you remember that famous part of back to the future? Yeah when he goes back in time

And he's in the 50s or late 50s and he goes, oh yeah, we have two TVs in the house and they're like, get out of here, nobody's got two TVs. No one's that rich. No one's that rich, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the average is 2.5 TVs per household. Yes, that wild.

And 31% have four or more. Yeah, so there's foods now that are created around that culture or have been for a long time. So snack foods were big. So think about this. Imagine if this was before TVs were invented, right? And so all meals were pretty much around a table with people. How many snack foods would be consumed if that was the case?

You get up and leave, you know, I don't want to sit here and eat a bag of chips, I'm done eating, let me get out of here. But if I'm watching this TV show, it's nice to snack on something or whatever. Was the microwave, did that come out like simultaneously with the television or was that like 70s TV? Did it? A little bit later, because I know that that had a major impact as well in terms of, you know, just being able to heat something up relatively quickly than watch TV.

Yeah, I mean, obviously we don't remember from experience, but have you guys seen at like, just being able to heat something up relatively quickly. What was it? What was it? I mean, obviously, we don't remember from experience, but have you guys seen at like, what, I wonder what the ads look like, Doug for a microwave? Yeah, microwave. I wonder how they, how they pitched it. Nuclear technology or something.

I bet they, I bet they pitched it like, you know, supporting the mom, you know, like, yeah, supporting the mom in the house. So she doesn't have to spend like hours and hours in the kitchen or whatever. So I looked us up a long time ago, there were whole cookbooks when the microwave came out. Around cooking about my clothes.

So it was like this whole, I cooked a whole meal with the microwave and they taught you how to cook a steak in a microwave and obviously it's gross. You don't want to do that. I've had that ruin. You had a microwave. So my grandmother,

remember when I moved to the Bay Area? Wait, you mean like a raw steak? Yes, yeah. Okay, potatoes,es every my girl only did the microwave. So yeah, and TV did her she had the little full That so she's that generation right that actually watched the evolution of TV and set in the microwave So when I moved in with her she was by the way she lived by herself for many many years like she at a very young age She was divorced and then basically and she was a two job swing shift crazy work, save all her money, didn't spend anything on herself. Living this little condo, two bedroom apartment in San Jose, I moved over here to when I originally

thought I was going to finish my degree in Canese, moved in with her basically just to like focus and buckle down on school and this is how I fell into training. Well, I mean, I ate with her, and I didn't know this until I moved in with her and everything was microwave. And my grandmother made me like, Sal's very steak and frickin' the microwave. It's like, oh dude, it was so bad, bro. So bad.

Eggs, you know, cooked in there. She's like, oh my God. She would do can vegetables that had been in there for like months, poured in a bowl, put it in the microwave, that was dinner. Oh my god. Yeah, bro, it was so bad.

So you know what's funny, you can look at, you can find, still like that in my life. You can find, oh, it's really broken. Oh my god dude. It's pretty bad. Oh my god.

So, Doug, what are you pulling up here, Doug? Yeah, 1925, the first microwave was introduced for domestic use. 1955? In 1955. Wow, really? But it became really more prevalent in the 1970s when the price went away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I'm the nuke dinner. Yeah. So what's going to be like that today, right? That's why I knew it. Nuclear technology. And you know, it would say some shit like that, right? Hey, so what's going to be like that right now that like, you know, only really wealthy people have or have in their house?

That's like technology that we're probably gonna evolve that everybody will have. What do you think that is? Well right now, I can't- I can't- Yeah 3D printers will be that. That's a good call. Yeah, that's a good call. But nobody has them yet.

Oh just the small ones for like little models. Yeah, I'm not talking about the G1s. I'm talking about the G1s. Yeah, at some point that'll be revolutionary. Yeah. When you have 3D printers in every house, it's gonna be really- Anything else you can think of? That's like, but it's really exciting.

Robots to wash the dishes. Yeah, maybe. I mean, it's coming. That'll be probably right after the moon trips that most the average people will make, so somewhere out there. You know, back in those days, okay, so lots of new, this is cool.

If you really want to research the history of food in America, and I did this only because the correlation between the obesity epidemic fits perfectly with the consumption of heavily processed foods. But if you look at the food, like the history of America, when these new foods were introduced, like spam and processed foods. It was cool. And there were entire cookbooks like Jello.

Okay, Jello was this massive thing. That Jello was huge. When it got really popular. And there were all these cookbooks and there were the weirdest like Jello tuna casserole, or Jello like beef dishes. And they were these cookbooks and people would put them together

because it was this new, weird food. So let's go weird. So bring it to 3D printing. Don't you think that's gonna be similar to how the 3D printing evolution is gonna be? Like, remember, you talked about like soon, people will be able to print their own shoes. And it's interesting to think about that

in a culinary person. Well, so think of it like that, right? Everyone's gonna adopt it and it's gonna be so cool because you can print your own shoes and then we'll see the resurgence of artists and people that can, because it won't ever be able to produce what somebody with their hands can produce.

Of course, I look at it like how iTunes was developed because of all these apps and all these different music genres and things and downloads. So obviously you're gonna be able to download somebody's creation, like somebody's blueprint, somebody's, you know, something to then just push a button and then, it'll create a whole, like, market.

They'll create the market out of it in response to the fact that, like iTunes was created in response to Napster and all that stuff. Speaking of that, wait real quick, look up there on there. Gross dude. Does anybody have a family member that makes like a Jello salad? No, no. I remember the shrimp with jello like what a horrible combo. Bro.

It's so it's so fascinating. If you look at the history of food and processed food in America. It is so it was calm. There were entire cookbooks that were taken seriously based off of hot dogs, spam, like weird shit. Microwave like entire meal entire meal, microwave your turkey for Thanksgiving, like you would find cookbooks on that kind of stuff.

SpaghettiOs with hot dog, like there's like this whole recipe behind it. Oh, really? So we are Adam. So I wanted to look this up, I wanna show you guys, because I read this article and maybe Doug can help me out or Andrew would know. Did you guys hear about the rapper who sold a million copies for $1 NFT?

Oh, NFT, yeah. Yes, did you hear about this? I did. Think about how fastening that, like. I think it was like in like 30 seconds. Yeah, like remaining bucks. He broke all these crazy. So what he did was he made his song an NFT.

Just this is just one song. Art, one album, I think it was an album for a dollar. I'll try and see if maybe Doug can get it before me. I think Tori Lannis says he sold one million copies of his NFT album in under one minute. What? In under one minute. Oh, because of the NFT hype though.

It's not because of his music. Yeah, but think about that for some of the other stuff. Okay, so if I understand correctly, and maybe Doug can read through it while we're talking about it, is what makes that really cool is if you did that, and're somebody who bought it for one dollar and you have that album and anybody else wants to listen to it and they want to buy it for four or five. He's only selling so many. That's what I think.

I think there's got to be some sort of otherwise what's the point of selling the NFT like that right? There's got to be some scarcity around it and think about how smart that is for like an up and coming rapper. You have like this guy, guaranteed this guy, you guys don't even know who he is, but yet he's got a million people that support him at least, right, because he sold a million one dollar.

So every transaction of somebody who buys it, then goes and passes it on cells, that he gets a kickback on it and one of those transactions, yes. So technically, he probably didn't sell that many copies. It's just that, you know, the, the, no, no, he did sell a million, individual million units, yeah, million units for $1.

But now those people I believe can take that and sell it for $2, $4, $5. And he gets a percent. And he's still getting that in perpetuity. Yes, yeah, yeah. And it's smart because basically what you're doing is you're allowing your, your cult of people that believe in you and your music and what you're doing and believe, oh, this is the next two-pock or this is the

next big guy. And I found him for artists to finally get like- That's most of the money. Okay. Okay, think of all the companies that are going to go, they're going to be gone. We talked about this before, ticket master. Right. StubHub and ticket master fucked.

Fuck, because if I want to buy, if I want to get scalps and tickets or buy whatever, now they're gonna love selling their tickets because now they get a piece on every other sale. I didn't know this before, by the way. I thought I didn't understand NFTs, but now it makes sense. If I sell one for $10, and then you buy it for $10, and you want to sell it for $20,

I can attach an automatic commission to that blockchain code or whatever. So every time it gets sold, I get 10%, and it can get sold a million times. I get 10% every single time. And it eliminates so many middlemen and so decentralized. What a disrupting, and I had no idea. I thought, and I thought it was art, microcares. Yeah, snap, take a screenshot, and you're done.

And it's interesting, because you could actually consume the album and like like it or whatever, but then decide to sell it and even make a profit if it's something that's a value for somebody. Well, yeah, especially, I mean, just like the easiest way I think to think of something like that is like, imagine if you knew about 2-pop before most everybody else did. You were one of the first million of the probably tens or hundreds of millions of people who know who Tupac is and how amazing he was, and you catch him on the way up, and you have the opportunity to buy one of his first albums

and have as an NFT, so you own the rights to that one, that one, and you can do it for a dollar. And you won, you know, this guy's so hot that I can easily flip and sell this tomorrow for more money, or I can hang onto this and maybe 10 years from now when he is the next two-pock and everyone's like, oh shit, you have one of the, one of one million of the-

I got so- Don't you think that this might just be because it's the very, because historically this is the very first person to do it. Yeah, of course. I don't know how many people are gonna have that kind of success. I just thought of something. That's a fair thought.

It is, and I just thought of something very interesting. You own a collector car, a classic collector car, right? So you don't mind if I say it, it's a 68, Camaro Super Sport, great, beautiful car. It's gonna always go up a value. What if you attached to that car in NFT? Let's say you set it up so that you can't start the car unless you own the NFT.

Now, how much, let's just, let's say that car right now is valued at $70,000 on the market. And you decide, I'm gonna sell it for $50,000, except it comes with this NFT, which means, I'll get the 50, but I'll get the 10% of whatever anybody ever sells in the future. So now you've attached yourself to that car in the future and you can undercut the value, the price,

because you're counting on the fact that people are gonna buy it. That's how I see it happen. That's right, even though you guys are saying that the novelty of this guy's the first one to do it, but what's to stop somebody who's like Jay-Z, who's, who his albums are already worth X and to do it for so cheap,

that people know on the resale market they could sell. I mean, didn't, what was it, Doug? You imagine that, look, Ray, remembering how he was putting his album together, never released it, if he like, like, released the unreleased content that he has. Yeah, that'd be huge. Did you ever find the article?

Did you read on it, Doug at all? Yeah, I mean, I'm not getting a lot of really good information on this. Who was, apparently, he sold a million of these in less than one minute. And then he did a secondary release that apparently, and sold a bunch more, got sold out. Did he go up in price or did he keep it?

Well, right now, he says the lowest copy right now was going for $30,000. That's amazing. So crazy, man. What? This is a whole new market, this is the merged. It is, but a lot of it's gonna get washed out. Oh, yeah, I mean, it's gotta correct itself

and become what it's gonna be, right? But what? It's a gold rush, right? It's like the whole. It's wild how much hype is around it. So I don't know if there's ever been a time in history, at least in my short 40 years, where I have seen a new technology or a new thing

be so heavily marketed and spoken about like cryptocurrency and NFTs. Really? You don't think cell phones did that? No. What? No. Bro, we went from no one having cell phones

to everyone having cell phones. Yeah, over a period of a decade, like literally overnight, you see, like tell me if you guys are like, okay, just a year ago, okay, of surfing around on YouTube. You may not have seen hardly any. Now almost every ad I get is crypto related

or NFT related. Yeah, I think a lot of it, I'm inundated. But you know, crypto has been around for a lot longer than in the last year. I was, so I belonged to a lot of these kind of free market economic groups. I was introduced to Bitcoin. This is a true story and it's suppressing. I was introduced to Bitcoin when it first came out, because it came out to these, and there

was the free market decentralized, like pro-libertarian groups that were talking about it early on. I didn't understand it, okay. I swore I could have bought, and I get this close, I was this close, to buying a thousand dollars with a Bitcoin, which would probably be worth a billion dollars today. And I almost, and I didn't do it because it was complicated.

And at the time, there weren't like, the coin based didn't exist, so I had to buy like a different thing and have a wallet. And I'm like, what is a wallet? What do you mean it's on the computer? And I didn't do it, and I had a client who was like, Sal, you gotta buy this. You gotta do this. And he was good friend of mine.

I still talked to him. I was like, ah, it doesn't make sense. You know, I don't think I wanna do it or whatever. Do you know, if he did it? Do you know? I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. But I was like, I can't do it.

So, I mean, you're trying to use the, say that cell phones are like this. Like, I don't remember getting that much information about. So everywhere I looked, like I feel like that's everybody's talking about crypto, everybody's talking about NFTs, everywhere I go on social platforms, YouTube, anywhere I, at billboards now, commercials on the radio, like, I don't think I can get a day that I can go buy and not every one of those hit me with a advertisement for crypto or NFTs. that I can go buy and not every one of those hit me with a advertisement for crypto or an FD. You know what it is, it's weird, is that the cycle of new disrupting technologies

and how fast they get adopted is getting faster. Yeah. And faster, it's so weird that like how long has the iPhone been around, right? Now you have technology that comes out and it's obsolete in a year, it's really, really strange. So I mean, I get what you're saying. It's like two years ago, we didn't know what the hell that was. And now all of a out and it's obsolete in a year. It's really, really strange. So I get what you're saying. It's like two years ago, we didn't know what the hell that was.

And now all of a sudden, it's everywhere. Yeah, yeah people. And if T thing has really got hyped up because of Facebook changing the name to meta, I feel like that was like a big catapult for. Well, I think it definitely, it definitely made all of the things that were connected surge because something as big

and as powerful as Facebook that literally Facebook actually has the resources and money to go out and go fucking build this virtual world. Right. So when you see a company like that, and then of course everybody following suit, Nike, Adidas, you know, all of them Disney, all following suit is only driving up the hype even more. It's like holy shit, these are massive established companies. So the best, what did Elon Musk just say about the metaverse?

He said so I should have a better idea. Yeah, let me see if I can find it. So what was his, So I'm with them on this thing, because when I see like, and does that mean that I don't think he says this? No, I don't think that. I just think that there's so much hype around this.

And there's definitely kids, okay, I have friends, grown-ass men that spend hours of their time on a pretty regular basis in these virtual games. And these virtual games have just become more and more interactive, and to me, this is just the next step to that. So it's very believable that there's gonna be a large portion. It's like full on immersion, it's like kind of like half immersion now. It's full on you know what I like about Elon Musk is he talks like a kid on reddit Like the way he talks like this when he says Elon Musk says the metaverse sucks

He says sure you can put a TV under nose, but that doesn't put you in the metaverse So he's saying oh this was the interview on the babble on B I want to I want to read. I do. I've seen. Yeah. And he's like, and he says, he says, no, you could put a TV under nose. It's not the metaverse. And he says that his, uh, because normally, yeah, that's why he's talking shit, because, you know, he wants to put you in there. Yeah, he wants to put you inside the metaverse. Like he's literally working on the processing power. Oh, yeah, he's machine and brain together. He's talking shit because this all you're doing is putting, like you said, a TV on your nose

or creating the illusion that you're in this place where he's wanting to link to your brain so you're like, you're fucking there. You're inside, yeah. So you're literally in there. Come on, he's on. I'm cool, bro. You're on this.

That's a big step. Yeah. Well, his whole argument was always like, it's gonna happen. So I wanna make sure that I do it first. I do it so that it doesn't. Well, I tell you what, when he said that, when he made that, that metaphor of like that were already

there with the phone, the appendage already. I mean, that really kind of boom. But he said, the fuck you are so right. I know, right. And it's just the natural progression to, how do we make that faster? If it wasn't, like, imagine we're all, we're all evolving around long enough now

that when we were in school, like how frustrating it was when you had to go, you had to go research something. Like I had to go to the library, I had to go look at all of, but my decimal system, I mean, it was just, it was a daunting task where it's so wild to me that this kid,

the kids today, like you want to learn something right now, you literally could type that specific thing and get like extreme. So you need to type, you just ask, sir, or, you know, and so that's a good example. So that's what you're, you're looting to right now is my exactly my point.

It started off with like holy crap, you could type it in. Yeah. And like it's the definition. Then it came then shortly after you could just say it. And now soon you'll just have to think it. Yeah. Soon you'll just have to think it. It's a mid step, right?

And then it's so that's gonna. So I think that's when we're gonna turn into like a hive mind and it'll be weird because if we can all. We can all read each other's minds. If we can all which is I can't imagine how dangerous that's gonna be. Do you want to read everybody? I think we're gonna be a bunch of assholes.

I'm scared. Yeah. We're always doing fucking self-indulge weeners that think they're so smart because we do have all the access to the answer. The gnarly we're gonna be so... We are gonna get killed by our own gnarly sisters. I don't like us 10 years from now.

No, no, no, no, listen, just because you know stuff doesn't make you wise. In fact, I think that the unplugged will be out there tripping you. Listen, listen, you're like, well, I know this. Here's my evidence. here's my evidence. Here's my evidence. When I was growing up, there was no community

of flat earthers, it did not exist. It didn't exist. They're around today. We have more access to information than ever in human history. And there are millions of people. Was it Galileo's day where he had the flat earthers and he was talking about the earth being around. Yeah, so that was radical.

It's not like your wise. So my fear is we're going to connect to this like super internet and with each other and have all the information in the world and it's going to turn us into narcissistic, like it's like a bunch of teenagers. Like, you know, in a teenager finally get some freedom, they do a bunch of stupid stuff because they have no wisdom. So they're just like, oh yeah, that's, you know, I can do that. No, I can't. Even my preteen son, like I call him tweening out all the time because he just like decides

to like interject and have these like really confident answers and I'm like, dude, you're totally wrong. Where are you coming up with this? Google dad. It's just like, I'm right. Then we'll like walk off and like, you're so confident and so wrong. Yeah, this is just mind-奔. So that's what I feel like it's gonna be. You're gonna get these people that if all you have to do is think and you get to Google search right away, like, yeah, the arguments are gonna be awful to be around. You're gonna have people that. Well, we'll all think the same like a hive mind. Everybody must go. Everybody must go. Yeah. Well, I just like the innocent moment still, though speaking of my kids,

like I was talking to Everett before putting him to sleep last night, and we were having kind of a funny conversation and about Ethan and how, and he's like, I'm convinced he's going through puberty, dad. I'm like, oh really? He's like, he's like, he's so lazy and moody. So Everett says that about Ethan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. He says, I'll be, when I'm a teenager, I'm gonna be lazy like that too, probably. Because I'm fever. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, don't set yourself up for that. Bro, that's so young. He's like, you're young,

it's speculating on the older one to have going to be real. That's hilarious. Yeah, and he's like, he's like, yeah, he's gonna get hair, he's gonna stink a little bit. I'm like, oh wow, I was like, what else do you know about this? You know, I's like, yeah, he's gonna get hair, he's gonna stink a little bit. I'm like, well, wow, I was like, what else do you know about this? You know, I was like, curious.

I've never talked to him about it. You know, Ethan must be like, you know, relaying some information or error, but I was like, what else do you know? And so he's like, thinks about it for a second, and he's like, well, you transitioned to your ultimate form. What? I was like, that's the craziest way of describing that.

Did you ever hurt him? Did you break it to him? Like, no. Yeah. No, it sucks. It's actually a horrible process, but you know, we'll get there. Yeah, that's the way harder.

Yeah, no, you know what's interesting? It's awkward. You know what's an interesting relationship? I don't know if you've noticed this, but you have two kids that are really to the close and ageing close. So my two older kids are like that, right? But my son, you know, he's 16 now. He's like, fully like in the teen years. And now there's a little bit of a division between him and his sister.

And his sister, she told me that, so the other day they got a big old argument and they were kind of, no, brother and sister fight or whatever And I had to have a talk with my son and then I brought my daughter down and I talked to her about it And she just and I think she don't you know she didn't realize that she was gonna tell me her true feelings And she's like he just never around it doesn't want to hang out with anymore with me anymore Yeah, and I'm like oh, I can see because you know, he's 16 like yeah I'm on a hangout with this you're high-scaled out You're old for a long time can see because, you know, he's 16. Like, you don't want to hang out with us. I know you're in high school, you don't want to hang out. You're all free now.

Yeah, like, so you know it's funny. He's gone more often. You ever heard my sister talk about our relationship in high school? It's so funny, because so we're a year apart, but then we're two years in school. And this happened to us. And I'm sure she'll tell, she'll show you,

she's gonna hear this and she always calls me out. Like, your, your version is so different than my version. Right? But I believe that was a lot of that. I went to high school. We were like inseparable as kids. We played, we did everything together, growing up. And we were in the same K through eighth school.

So we were always around. But then you went to high school and she was in junior high school? That's right. And then that was for two years. So two years, and I wanted my friend, and when she got to high school, she really was attracted to a different group of friends, and I was like the opposite. I was jocks and athletes and stuff like that.

And she was more like skateboarding kids and like goth in that kind of direction. Like we were total opposites of our, and so we just didn't hang. And then that was like the beginning of our division with each other. And we really didn't come full circle till later on in our 20s. But I'm sure if she presented it to you,

it would be a different, but I would say. I would say. I would throw those together. Oh yeah, that's it. Damn, that's commonly. I would say though that that probably played the biggest role was that I had two grades ahead. And then when you get into high school,

that's kind of when you really want to start to like. I remember it with my younger sister, because I was really close with her and, you know, he's the hugger and I love her all the time. Then I get you get older and it's not that you don't like your sibling, you're just, I'm with my friends and it's a little, you're too young to hang out with this type of deal.

So you kind of split up a little bit and she was sad about it. I remember she'd be sad. Can I come? I'm probably crushing you a little bit. Yeah, can I come hang out with you? And I'd be like, I don't mean my buddies are gonna do and I don't want my sister around or whatever. And I tried in corporate or sometimes,

but I was too protective to have around some of my dirt bag friends or whatever. So my daughter said that and I was like, I choked up a little bit. Oh, my poor little girl, she's losing her best friend. She's in a different stage, you know. Yeah, but do you see that? Is that happening yet?

We're sure it's it. Yeah, I mean, they're definitely, they have their own set of friends. And so they kind of have different things that we have to figure out like a division of time. Like if one of them gets to go and stay with their friends or which one has to stay home. And then we try to figure out what to do with that's fun

for the one that stays home. And so it is a little bit more like a split in terms of like how we're trying to manage. You're not even there yet because when Ethan hits high school, it's one of those. Yeah, because that's what it's going to be. You're not even in the dust. You've got a couple more years and then you'll start to. There's still buds and they hang out, but yeah, it's starting.

Yeah, you know, you know, one of the ways you could separate generations, I learned this, we might have talked about this a long time ago, but there's a very clear way you can tell if somebody was born in the cell phone generation or the phone generation that we grew up with. So ask a kid, you might wanna try this with your sons, say hey, pretend like you're talking on your phone. Oh, the way they do this. They look like this.

Yeah, yeah, they do this. This is how they talk on the phone. Whereas we do this. Because we grew up with phones when they had a you know a receiver and a speaker and a I say operator There's smoke signals I'm gonna say it all the way back. What are you wearing? Did he have some of the carrier pigeons? Oh my god, you just reminded me of what happened? Bro, I gotta pull this up. So, drug smugglers are crazy with the shit that they do to get their drugs across borders.

Shut up, these impidients now. Bro, carrier pigeon, they found a carrier pigeon with a little backpack and a 178 ketamine pills in it. Oh my god, you just reminded me of what happened. Bro, I gotta pull this up. So, drug smugglers are crazy with the shit that they do to get their drugs across borders. Shut up. These impidients, no. Bro, carrier pigeon, they found a carrier pigeon, with a little backpack, I had 178 ketamine pills in it. What?

So that's in a movie. That's I've seen that in a movie before, because I can't remember, but they could actually carry quite a bit away and you could train them to fly to certain places and fly there. Well, carrier pigeons were used in. It's not in John Wick.

And they were used in war. I don't know what movie it's in. I know that. You know that right Well, carrier pigeons were used in... It's not in John Wick. Yeah, and they were used in war. I don't know what movie it's in. I know that one too. You know that right, in war, carrier pigeons were used quite a bit. Before electronic technology, they would communicate with each other with carrier pigeons. And so there were literally soldiers who were dedicated, and they had hawks that were dedicated to taking down pigeons that were flying across. To those messages, yeah.

Yeah, to steal those messages and see what's going on. I saw another one where they were open. They were literally, they looked like, not like two by fours, but they were slats of wood. And they looked like wood. Like there was, and the DEA agents were showing how they were smuggling drugs and they cracked one open, opened the wood and there's fricking drugs.

In the wood? In the wood? In the wood? Yes, dude. Crazy how they come up with, super creative. How they come up with some of this shit. Up the woods. Yes, dude. Wow. Crazy how they come up with... Super creative. How they come up with some of the shit. Like up and stuff.

That's a lot. That van where like every panel and everything was just stuff. Frigurators were popular and computers were popular, right? So you take a, because you could take like a, like a, you could do it depending on how much you're doing. A mini fridge or a big fridge, and you take the insert of the,

this is what I hear. You take the insert. So I've been told. I think it's over this, right? So you take the inserts out. And behind there's like all this foam stuff for the, to keep the temperature, you pull that out and you can put a lot of stuff in there. You can pull a lot of stuff out.

A lot of stuff I hear, like in that, and then also like, we don't have any computer towers, but computer towers are pretty big. And you normally fill them up with all the, I don't know what the hell you call the, what do you call it, what do you call it, what do you call the thing? The Kilo bags?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no cocaine, I don't see. No, no, no. This brings me back to my original theory with Outdoor World and like Bass Pro Shops. And you know, why do you think I'm right with you on that? So I'm like, dude, they have such big things, like a Bass Binks. You're like, kilos of cocaine, you can buy this shit.

Oh my, dude. Outdoor World, that's still a drug. Stop it. I don't know, dude. It's gonna come out someday. I actually, we didn't get anybody who normally always, when we speculate on weird shit like that, I get at least a handful of DMs of somebody

who has an intimate knowledge of that, and we didn't get anything about that. And I'm still like, there are some businesses that just scratch my head, dude. Okay, you know what, it doesn't make sense to me, more than that, way more than that. You ever go to a nice area, and you see these little stores that sell like candles.

Well, yeah, okay, so you can bullshit. Now, Mike's crystals and I, you pay, I know what the rent in Los Gatos is. I had a business here. So I have a thing. I have a theory on that, okay. You have a, You think she's bored, there's a board here.

No, I think you have a spouse, city council, who makes four or five million dollars a year and he can use every write-off possible. So he gives a spouse, city council, who makes four or five million dollars a year and he can use every write-off possible. And so he gives a sh, and it keeps her busy and happy or him, okay, if it's the rich woman and then the husband's assigned him to open a candle shop,

even though you don't see a lot of that, but maybe, okay, so I'm being non-sexist here. Okay, so they open up this store and they don't care if that fucking thing loses. This doesn't matter, gets to have their little boutique store downtown and do business. You imagine being like such a dick, right?

You come home and you're like, honey, you know, I know it's Christmas, I just want you know, I know your dream, you love, you love making candles. So I just, I got you a store. Dude, main street on Mainstreet, babe. Come on dude. Don't worry about, I don't know how to make anyone of these rich tech guys do.

Of course, like that's probably something they consider. Maybe that's gotta be it because there's a bunch of them. You go in and then it's just, that's the crystal. Crystal. They sell crystals candles in cards. And I know that you're. I mean, the ones that last, that's my theory

because you do see that also and the next year it's a whole nother store. So sometimes it's somebody who's really ambitious, thinks it's a good idea to rent for $10,000 a month in Los Gatos and it's, you know, their business makes a total of $10,000 in the year. And then they are out after their lease. But if it's someone who stays in there for years and years,

yeah, I would speculate that they've either that or they did a, which today you might see, and I'm sure there's somebody out there that has done this, you built a very solid, you know, direct to consumer brand, and then you built a store front to compliment it. So you don't care that maybe you only made four grand in the store this month and you rents 10,000, that's okay, you made 30,000 online. I see, so it's like a showroom. Right. I see. You know, I'd ever tell you guys about time, I, my buddies bet me to go into a site, there was a psychic place on one of those main streets

Oh, you did you in yeah, and they go go in like and so I went in and it's totally a dick I was such a stupid kid. I went in there and the lady's like oh, you know, how can I help you? I'm like you tell me You know all the answers. Yeah, she's like well, what's your name? I'm like, I don't know what you think it and I's such a dick You know, I'm like yeah, that's not how it works, you know. He's not all that happened. You gotta give me so, you could even get a reading, huh? No, that's not how it works.

You need to get out, you know. I don't know, I don't know. I feel like you're gonna give me the information so I could look at your might. I'm convinced. This is my life. I'm gonna give you the information. I'm gonna give you the information,

I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so I could look at your might. I'm gonna give you the information so a really weird experience with it. I had a client once that I trained and she was a very, she was super smart, like high performing executive,

badass woman. And so I can, like everything she said, I took seriously, right? I trained her super fit, whatever. And for, I don't remember what a for my birthday or something like that, she bought me like a free session with this woman who did this. And it was my client and as a friend, and I'm like, you know guys, no, man, I'm super skeptical of stuff. This is especially back then when I was even more skeptical than I am now.

And so I said, all right, I'll take it or whatever. Anyway, this lady said the weirdest shit to me. Like stuff that I was like, I don't know how you know that or what yours, I'm not, I wasn't, this is what I own my- I've been out and I've heard sometimes they get it like. Yeah. I'm not, I wasn't, this is when I own my- I remember now that I've heard, sometimes they get it like dead on. Dude, my cousin, his wife, she had just broke, I think she had just broken up with some guy or whatever

and she, her friends took her to one for fun and she said to her, you're gonna go out, I don't remember, in this month, you're gonna go to a club and she's like, I never go to clubs but whatever. And you're gonna meet your husband, your future husband. She's like, whatever, She forgets all about it. That month comes up, her friends drag her to the club.

She's not gonna go to the club. She runs into, now my cousin who she's married to, and she runs into him and she flirts with him and they're married and have kids and everything. And then she remembered and she tells the story all the time. Super weird. Yeah, that's good. Super, super weird.

I went out with a girl one time who actually, she recorded her session and What was weird about it was like she didn't present this to me to like the second or the third time that we had gone out and She let me listen to it and the fucking like medium or whatever you call him or with psychic Literally like like was talking about me and describing me like to it What I did for a living what I watch off My features how you how she was going to meet me all this over with fucking weird like to what I did for a living, what a watch- Wait, he's gonna dump you, my features, how she was going to meet me, all this stuff was fucking weird, dude.

I felt like, man, I need to go out, at least another time with this shit, you know what I'm saying? But it was really, really weird. Now what if? Just what if? Yeah. Because you're obviously not with this girl anymore. Right, right.

Okay, what if this girl was like, super psycho, she meets you, and then she's like, let's record the shit on the back of the set. So I'm gonna kind of convince that now, like. Right, right. Okay. What if this girl was like super psycho, she meets you, and then she's like, let's record the shit. So I'm gonna kind of convince that now, like later on, right. So she has on the back, I'm like, she was probably one of those crazy chicks that like, you manufactured this. She's like, how many?

I already met me and I was like, that they're like, hey, you need to do this for me. Cause like, totally could have been a fool. It was really a good idea. Say, how am I gonna bag this guy at the end of the tape? It's like, and he will get you pregnant, and then your son will be the leader of the world. Damn. I guess I gotta do this.

He's gonna resist at first but persevere nothing. That's right. And he'll get so rich because of it. I alright alright alright. It was wild dude, it was definitely, but you know, later on I thought I think because she did seem a little off. I thought, oh you know what maybe she had her friend do that. I'd say that was probably, I tell you what though, for any other crazy chicks looking for strategies,

that was a pretty good strategy. It's pretty unique. That's the first time that ever happened to me. Yeah, it's an interesting angle. I had a girl, this was a terrible story. I had a girl once, this was a year, I was a kid, I was 18, and I dated this girl for like a short period of time, and then I broke up with her,

and she tells me that, oh, I got pregnant. This is after we broke up. So I'm like, oh my God, are you kidding me? Like I'm stressed out, I'm 18 years old. She's like, don't worry, I'm gonna go to the clinic or whatever. And I'm like, I already have the date scheduled,

it's on this day and I'm like freaking out. Like, oh my God, what am I gonna do? And then I looked at the day that she gave me. She did. I was gonna blow jobs, like, oh my God, what am I gonna do? And then I looked at the day that she gave me. She didn't blow jobs, get people pregnant? Yeah. We just held hands. Shut up. No, we had standard intercourse.

Ah. She, hey. I don't know, make it out, can you just sit with me? Yeah, hey. She, she fucked up. She wasn't careful. So she tells me the date and the place and it happened to be on a holiday.

And so I called her on, I'm like, I don't, they're not open on that day. Let me go with you. And then she gave up, she told me that she made it all up. I was like, oh my God. Snake, total snake. Light about the whole thing.

Yeah, that's a dirty one. I mean, I was a kid, I was 18 years old. Yeah, dude. Can you believe that? That's a professional move, she just played on it. Hey, speaking of crazy stuff, you guys wanna see the latest, latest like training Jiu-Jitsu?

What's that? Doug, pull up the link that I gave you. Car Jitsu. Okay, so that's the type of Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah, no cars are getting into it. What's happening? No, it's really cool. So two Jiu-Jitsu guys, I watched one of these videos,

I thought it was hilarious. They're sitting, I teach you how to like, case someone attacks you. No, that's a tournament. It actually, it someone attacks you. No, that's a tournament. It actually, it's like a real thing. It's a tournament. Oh, they're doing it inside the car.

Doug, is there a video we can watch? Wow, is this really okay? So you have to sit and, so you can use the seat belt. So you can play this, I want to see this as a color. So you sit in the car, and you both put your seat belt on,

and then when the fight starts, you take the seat belt off and you go at it in the car. Bro, this is hilarious. Who thought of this? Who thought of this? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, full stage like this.

But I see you think I'm gonna watch this. This is a whole tournament. And these are two black belts. Like check it out. Oh my god. See belt off and you go out of it. It's off in time, dude. Oh bro.

And you have to fight in the car and submit each other. Tell me this is some brilliant. Like how though? Like I know you guys would never watch a Gigi's to turn a minute, but I bet you guys won't watch this. That is hilarious. Isn't that great? I feel like this would be a good car commercial too.

Yeah. I bet there has to be like, next move is the hot box. There's gotta be history behind this, right? Or there's gotta be a reason why it evolved or happened. And it makes sense, right? Like the people get car jacked and like imagine someone gets in your car

and like, how to defend yourself from in this situation. I mean, I just think it's entertaining. I mean, why else is the most random thing to like, let's do Jiu Jitsu, let's do it in our cars? Yeah, I think it's a, so Jiu Jitsu is interesting because there's a lot of like, stoner influence in Jiu Jitsu. So I feel like,

totally a stoner idea. I feel like this is a stoner idea. Big time. Like, hey feel like it's totally a stoner right there. I feel like this is a stoner idea. Big time. Like, hey, what if we went out of you? I'd be great. You can see it. I would totally watch that. I'd be the one who's turned it on high.

Like, yeah, it would totally watch that. There was a tournament a while ago, Eddie Bravo put it together where they smoked weed before the match. So they would smoke the weed. I think that would help. I would relax you a little bit. You know what, it's funny.

So this is why it's such a big thing in Jiu-Jitsu. The classic, like the old school Jiu-Jitsu people are like the Gracie family. There's so against it, right? It's drugs, not good for you. Then there's a new school where Jiu-Jitsu's kind of like got a surf culture, where they smoke weed and they create new moves.

And some of them say it helps with their creativity. So they did this whole tournament where they would smoke weed and then roll. And I've talked to, so I never did that. When I did you just say I never did that, but I have talked to guys and they say that, oh yeah, it's great. You smoke weed and then you get, you're better with your creativity and your flow on the ground. I mean, I feel like it's one of those sports where, you know, kind of being like, it's probably one of the biggest mistakes I'm assuming. I have no idea I've never done it in the two,

but I would think like a guy like me, who doesn't know better, like probably the number one mistake I would probably make and most people like me would make is I would try and use my strength. You can tense up. Yeah, I would tense up and I would try and like muscle everything where that's one of those sports

of you're using their force encounter. And so kind of relaxing in a in a very tense I guess situation. There's got to be like a threshold to that though too if you go too much weed right and you get Parasites always too much choked out That sounds horrible or so if you guys have never done it before or grappled that way like if there's a like a big like you're a big Dude Justin so if you go in a, you're a big dude, Justin. So if you go in a tournament, you're going against a guy that's your size. And you got a big guy who's holding it down

in side mount or north south. So north south is literally. There's a lot of physicality there. North south like this, right? So his head is facing your crotch, your head's facing. 16th line is what we call it. I kinda like that. But anyway, it's not that.

But his- I'm gonna tell a good tree to that. Hey, hey, you wanna do some north south? Is this some north south maneuver, it's not that. But his chat. I'm gonna tell a good tree today. Hey, you wanna do some dorsal? This is a dorsal, a maneuver. Let's see if you can have that first. And so his chest and his belly will be like pressing on your face, bro.

Oh my God. So you would be so pretty. He's just, oh, that's the word. Yeah, again. Yeah, there's like kind of like that balance of being relaxed, but I could get paranoid pretty quickly. Yeah. Hey, you gotta go check out, live on labs. Yeah, there's like kind of like that balance of being relaxed, but I could get paranoid pretty quickly. Yeah Hey, you got to go check out

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Good. What an honor it is to be here with you today. This is totally inspiring for me. Oh, thank you. Right. So I kind of have to a two part question. Um, first part is I'm actually just finishing up Max Split. By the way, I loved it. I totally appreciate the effort you guys put in sequencing the exercise. I had done splits before. I had never done anything like this that had such, you know, precise phasing. I love the process of it too. So that was awesome.

And, you know, following through with the step counts in each phase and then getting progressively bigger each time. I'm not going to lie. Toward the end, it was a real challenge to complete it, but I'm proud to say that I completed every workout. I hit every step count and I'm feeling really good. I'm just wondering where to go from here. So that I am someone who normally works out seven days a week. I have a tendency to over train and over do it. But after doing your program, it was the most comprehensive program I've ever done. I'm just not sure where to go from here.

Certainly, I upped my activity level with it toward the end. And I know that for me, that that's not going to be sustainable long term. And I had really good progress with strength gains. So I'm kind of wondering, where do I go from here? I've heard you guys always preach that less is more, you know, training the three days a week full body. I feel like that would be a lot less than what I'm coming from. And I'm just kind of concerned about losing strength and losing progress. Okay, Lauren. Now in your question that you sent in, you also said you're recovering cardiomatic

and you admittedly have a tendency to over-train, which I would have guessed because the first program that you picked from us was MAPSPLIT. Yeah, I would have put you on an antibiotic first. Yeah, that's one of our highest volume like bodybuilder style workout programs. So, do you want the advice that's the best for you or do you want the advice that you want to hear?

I know. I really, I think I really need some tough love from you to hear what, you know, to hear what I need, you know, to kind of move forward. All right, all right, here's some tough love, okay. If you're gonna do what I need to kind of move forward. All right, all right, here's some tough love. If you're gonna do what I tell you, okay, if you're gonna do exactly what I tell you, I want you to do Maps Performance.

You've done Maps Split. It's time to move into a program that trains different planes of movement, that works on mobility, don't worry, you're gonna still get strong, you're still gonna to build muscle. Here's the best part. You can do maps performance six or seven days a week.

So three days a week are the resistance training days, the other days are mobility sessions. And if you like movement and athleticism, you'll love the mobility sessions. There's still somewhat of a workout. It's much less intense, but they're gonna improve your mobility and your ability to just connect to different movement.

And they're gonna help facilitate recovery. I think that's gonna be the best next step because you just, I mean, Mapsplit is literally, I mean, one of our most advanced bodybuilder, volume-based workout programs. So I'm not gonna put you in another program that's similar. Maps on Obolic would be great too, but I think because you just did split, I think performance is going to benefit your body so much. And if you trust what I'm saying

and you just do it and don't judge the process, but trust the process, you will be very, very happy with the results you get from that program. I'd like to, I would have liked to see her do anabolic then performance, but I can, I can concede to performance. I mean, I think, I think performance is going to tremendously benefit her, but I think what would be best for her, her body, her personality type and the things that she tends to do would be to get her out of that. You could make the argument that it's going to be very difficult for her mentally to make that shift, but personally, I would love to see anabolic, then performance, then aesthetic, and then work

your way back to a strong or a split type of a routine. I would be... Yeah, I agree. I do like that suggestion. I think that that's probably the best, but it will be mentally difficult, again, to make that dramatic shift because you're going to be learning a lot of moves and things that probably you're not very familiar with. So stick with it and stick to the program and plan as much as possible and trust it, it's gonna be outside your comfort zone for sure. And not that it's not gonna be fun, it's just, you know, look at it as a totally new thing

that you're there to kind of educate your body and go through the process. Yeah, and the volume and mass performance is really appropriate. It's not a super ridiculous high volume program, but it's not super low either though. It is, but the mobility sessions are good. And you know what, you're bi-skeleton.

Well, I forgot to add this too, because Lauren wrote in her question, and I read your question, you didn't just go into MAPSplit from beginner. You were doing Mike Matthews, you know, Split Routine before you went into that, right? Yeah, so I kind of first got into, you know, I first started kind of seeing the light of resistance training and started doing far less cardio a couple of years ago and I found Mike Matthews thinner than you're stronger. I was doing his five day split program, which was great and knowing my personality. I turned into a seven day program. Yeah. And then at a certain point, I just frankly got a little bored and I stopped seeing progress and I was a little frustrated.

So that's when I found maps. Yeah, and with his, I know his program very well, Mike's a good friend of ours, great guy, really smart guy. In his program, places a heavy emphasis on bench presses and rows and overhead presses. So that's why you went to perform? Yeah, and then she went to split, which is bodybuilding.

So I see where you're going with that. Okay, I see where you're going. That takes it, because she's going to see a lot of, she's just see some significant progress because of that where maybe she'd see a little less progress going to anabolic because it's similar enough, even though it's different. Totally new stimulus.

Okay, that being said then, this is what I would love to see then. I would love to see performance right now, then to anabolic. And then when you go into anabolic, I would actually use the mobility sessions from performance and add them to my trigger days. So if you like, if you like the six day, seven day routine

and you wanna do more, I think you can do more, just more of the right things for your body that you'll more the right things for your body That you'll get the most bang for your buck and what that would look like for someone like you in my opinion would be The mobility sessions from performance and you can go ahead and add those into anabolic when you go into that So I go performance and then anabolic with a little combination of the mobility And here's why you're lucky Lauren because we recommended two programs Now we're gonna give you two programs for free.

But I think we're underestimating how much she's going to enjoy performance because she did marathons and triathlons. Is that correct? I love the lunge matrix. Yeah, I love the process and I'll tell you this, I already have those programs. I kind of went crazy during your Black Friday stuff. There you go. Are you in the private forum? I would love to follow up. I'm not in the private forum Friday stuff. There you go. All right.

Are you in the private forum? Because I would love to follow up. I'm not in the private forum. Okay. We'll do that. Let's put you in the forum for free. I just want to follow up on your progress. I think actually, because you detract the lawns' marathons, you like functional movement,

you like the sport aspect or that aspect of training probably. You're going to love maps for formats. It's going to be a lot of fun training in that way. And then once you see how your body responds, that's it. I think you're gonna be sold on training your body appropriately. So let's do that. Let's put you in the forum, tag us,

let us know what's going on. Adam gave great advice. Maps for formats to maps and a ball, using the mobility sessions throughout both of them. I think that's great. Thank you. That's awesome. And I just want to reiterate again, I work in the fitness industry.

I'm a GM of a fitness and wellness center. You guys have inspired me so much. Mainly you've really opened my eyes to a lot of the mobility stuff. I had prime and I've brought those skills into the programming here by encouraging the staff to add more mobility, more functional movement, especially into our group exercise program. We have a big population of active seniors here and they're just loving it. I think the stuff that you guys say about making people feel good keeps them coming back. And I think that's what it's all about.

So I just really appreciate your knowledge, your sharing of information, and just the inspiration you guys give every day. I have a two hour commute each way to work, and you're with me every time. That's awesome. You know what Lauren? Now that I know that you manage a fitness department,

I want you to start to treat yourself and train yourself like one of your clients. Cause I guarantee if one of your clients came in and literally said exactly what you said to me on this podcast, your advice would be very similar to mine. Am I wrong or am I right? It's so true. You know, I fall into the camp, you know, adherence

is never my problem. I'm like, you know, all or nothing, you know, kind of personality. And I, I tend to over train and push myself. I would never tell a client that. Of course, we always train our clients better than ourselves. So try and put yourself in those shoes and you're more likely to give yourself better advice. Thanks for calling. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. No problem. People don't realize that the vast majority of people in the fitness industry have somewhat of a dysfunctional relationship when it comes to exercise. They do a great job with their clients and they would give great advice to the clients. But by the way, this is so many chairs and coaches fall into that. This applies to me. I, I'm talking to me. It's one of us here. It's so hard, but I've had to do that myself.

Like, what would I tell my client to do? It's not what I'm doing now. So it's really, really challenging when you're in that position. So I know what she's doing. What is that paradox that causes that, Doug? That's like, you see that even like with therapists and people, a lot of times people,

yeah, they're talking to themselves, right? It's like they're preaching this message and they're really communicating their own stuff. Oh yeah, doctors and nurses are the worst patients. I think a lot of professions are like that. You see that, even in people that are inspirational speakers and stuff like that, then they're all depressed at home and shit.

You know what it is? I think what it is is, if I'm talking, if someone's helping me with, let's say a disordered eating, the person who struggles with it, who makes this their passion and that's their expertise, probably will understand how to communicate to me the best and do the best job.

I really believe that. So I think that's probably part of it. I know how to talk to people with this kind of relationship with exercise because I live it. I think more of it is you're working your own shit out. I think subconsciously you know. know how to talk to people with this kind of relationship with exercise because I live it. I think more of it is you're working your own shit out. I think subconsciously you know what you're supposed to be doing for yourself. So you're comfortable with saying it.

You're relaying it. And you're not internalizing it. Exactly. But then you still struggle with taking your own advice about it. But subconsciously you know better because you either have read or you've learned over time. And so you do better with communicating it to others but then taking your own advice is one of the hardest things to do. Our next caller is Justin from Tennessee.

Justin what's happening man how can we help you? Hey how are you guys thanks for having me. We just had a real quick question. I was listening to your recent podcast regarding how to maximize your 30 minute workout. I've been doing Gorug events since 2019. And these events are some of the most difficult endurance events out there. Some of these events, 12 to 14 hours in duration.

Additionally, there's plenty of PT, and miles, while carrying a various amounts of weight. So I have a two-part question. One, in your opinion, could I still get the fitness level that I kind of need with the 30-minute time frame workout and still perform well? And I guess really my main question is, if you guys were going to try and do one of these events, how would you approach it? Oh man, man, 30 minutes of training and then your goal is these events.

Yeah, that's tough. So you can get, I mean, you can get pretty far, but I'm going to be honest with you, Justin. You know what? You'll get really good at the first 30 minutes of that job. You can go crush that, open your, Christian. Yeah, it's gonna be really tough because it's so dear, like what you need is a, a specific type of endurance, you know, 12 hours, 24 hours. Little bit of work you pass. Yeah, where you're just moving,

and I would, look, here's how I would train for that. I would do the occasional long r rock as part of my training. And then I would do a little bit of strength training and I do mobility work. But I would definitely, at least once a week, I would do a long hike. That would be a few hours and then maybe once a month, a really long one. Because you have to, nothing's going to get you as prepared for what you're doing, like training, like training, like the competition itself.

Well, what do you guys think about him using like the work sessions and strong for his straight training type of routine and then doing what you're saying is once a week or once every other week, he does like a long old, you know, rough type of a run like the combination. Sounds good. Yeah, that's about the same. I feel like that's the direction I would go if I'm, you know, rough type of a run, like the combination. That sounds good. Yeah. I feel like that's the direction I would go. If I'm limited to my, my time of lifting during the week, I only got 30 minutes. I'd probably lean you towards the work sessions that we have, especially since a lot of it

has to do with like carrying and stuff like that, stuff that we'll put in. Well, maybe even then one or two of the actual like foundational workouts from strong, you know, during the week and then adding in just the work sessions were the main focus and then having that. Yeah, I think that would all be valuable. Yeah, Justin, do you have, would you be able to schedule like two long hikes a month or is that not, does that not work as well? Yeah, yeah, I could ever do that. I've done multiple 12 mile go recommends and I've done 150 mile and so yeah, yeah, I can get I've got several days where I can put in some a lot of miles. Yeah, I think if you did a

couple of months, that would make a dent. That would definitely make a dent and improve your ability to do the competition. And then the rest of the workouts, you know, you could, you could do the work sessions for a map strong or the foundational workouts for map strong. Well, now that I know that we're working with that, okay, so that also changes my advice limit. So if, if I could get you to commit to me to, to four days, you know, so maybe they're a weekend day, where this is going to be kind of our endurance training together, I'd

have a day where, let's say that I kind of our endurance training we're gonna, I'd have a day where, so let's say that I know I'm getting ready for an event, say whatever the distance is, 25 mile, 50 mile, 10 mile, whatever you know the distance is, I would then do four times in a month, so one time a week, and one time I would go quarter the distance, one time I'd go half the distance, one time I'd go three-quarters distance, one time I go full distance on what the main goal is. Does that make sense?

So like if we were training for a go-reconvent that the miles is 25 miles, I'd have one day a week where I'm doing a quarter of that, one day a week I'm doing half of that, one day out of the week where I'm doing the three-quarters and then one. One in one-whole week or even a month. One week, one week, one week. Yes, you give a change. I like that. So he one week or even a month. One week, one week, one week. Yes, you get what I like that. I like that. So he's only one time a month.

Is he even doing anything close to the full distance? The other time he's doing three quarters, the other time he's doing a half, the other time he's doing a quarter of it. And then his training during the week looks like strong work sessions. Now can you describe, I mean, at least for the audience too, and I have somewhat of a semblance

of what Rucking is and tales, but can you describe a little bit more about that, like what kind of backpack and what kind of weight load you're carrying around? Yeah, so typically, the pack that I use is from GoRook. I have a 3.0, I guess the name of that specific bag, but a backpack type of bag. And then they've got sections in there when you can put

weight in there. So you're carrying, you know, there's kind of two different sections of events. So like you have one that you're just doing a lot of miles with your select team and then you're doing, they have other ones when you're doing it as a large group, but it's over, you don't really know what you're going to be doing, but it could be over 12 to 48 hours depending on which one you want to do. How much weight's in the bag? Yeah, so you'll have in your bag your gourmet can you wear it for probably 20 to 40 pounds plus whatever else they bring for you to carry around. So you can carry that amount of weight up to 120, 40, 60 pounds depending not the whole time, but you're gonna be sharing that load with other people

Okay, so so you actually share it with a do you also are you able to load it in the front too? Or is this always load in your back? Yeah, as long as you just carry it I don't think they really buy how you do it. Okay. Yeah So sometimes some people are carrying it sharing it just by carrying it in their hands. They put it on top of their rough bags depending on what the object is, you have to carry it if it's a telephone pole or if it's a law of sandbag or another person. Yeah, just considering that, all those different types of loading, I would, I would,

you know, definitely try and emulate that as much as possible, especially sandbags and, you know, front loaded carries versus, you know, back loaded carries and incorporate that within your training too. Yeah. No, yeah, I think what the advice Adam gave was a great one. I mean, you don't have to do long endurance type training often to gain the benefit. I think the advice he gave was great. And then the majority of your training

is around mobility strength. You can do some high intensity interval training, continue to build some of that stamina. And I think that should be OK. Yeah, because what I'm doing now is besides getting my miles in, GoRap also has an SRT program, a S&Bag training program where you're doing five workouts a week where you're working out with your rough bag and your handstand bags for what it has. And so they have different workouts for you to do to kind of help prepare you for that. Yeah, so let me interrupt you there.

That's cool, okay, but I don't know what this program looks like, so I'm gonna be just, you know, kind of speaking out of my butt here, but oftentimes when these organizations create these workout programs, they overdo it, and what I mean by they overdo it like, okay, yes, it's important to train with your bag, but if you want to gain strength from a lift, you're better off with a dumbbell or a barbell.

That doesn't mean you eliminate the bag. You want to work with the bag with some of your training, but some people go too far. It's like all the training has to incorporate something from my particular sport. The programming sometimes off, so I would take some of that stuff and individualize it for yourself and Don't throw out some of the traditional strength training. You don't need to do much of it But don't throw that out because you'll gain a lot of benefit from that as well And if you don't have maps strong by the way, Justin, we'll send that to you, okay? Yeah, yeah, that's really what I wanted to hear if y'all thought that that would be doing the supplement with with my rook training

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, okay. Thanks for calling in, man. Yeah. Thank you very much. No problem. Yeah, all of the I don't know Stamina endurance type sports. This is the one I would I would be most likely to try. I'm just interested is it's gaining a lot of popularity It is yeah, I think I mean this was this was like a hunting thing right? Yeah, I thought it was a military Yeah, definitely milk. That's what came from but also I've seen because in hunting you had to carry. I thought it was a military. Yeah, definitely military. That's where it came from. But also I've seen because in hunting you have to like carry in a track skies that are into hunting and stuff like that.

My best friend's brother, when I first got in, he was actually doing this a long time ago, I didn't know what the hell it was. He'd like, when I was already a trainer, he'd call me up and ask me for advice on his training. Like, I'm in to go rock. Adam, do you want to rock? Yes, yes. What? No idea what that is.

And then I remember him sending me over the challenges. Like, oh shit, this is intense, dude. That's a lot. So it's, it's, what would be hard with someone like this is what you'd limited it to 30 minutes. And the, And you're training for like the super long-stem. Yeah, for endurance, that's rough.

But if he could, if he could dedicate one day a week for me, that he could go spend, you know, an hour or two towards the endurance aspect of it, I could do it. I could build it up like I was saying. Yeah, honest with you, that's what I would do anyway. If I trained for something like this, it would be one day a week of something specific, right? The rest of it would be more tailored around what I need,

you know, with mobility and strength. And then one day a week would be a really long, you know, simulated hike with weight. Because honestly, doing it more than that or too often might even be too much. Yeah, it was just breaking down all the time. Totally. Our next caller is Bailey from Minnesota.

Hey Bailey, how can we help you? Hey guys, so like everybody else since you've been doing these live Q&A's I just want to thank you guys. There's actually a huge overlap business wise between what you guys talk about and the work that I do as a musician So that's been really cool as I've been ramping up my own business and career and all of that So I really appreciate that aspect of things. And then I have a question about body recomb and hormone levels and what's a realistic and smart expectation of that. If you guys want me to go into like the background, I can. I don't know how much you guys remember

from my original submission. Yeah, well, we're actually here, but we're looking at it right now. Yeah, but I'd like for you to go over it so people can kind of understand what your question is coming from. Sure, sure, sure, sure. So I am in my late 20s

and I have been lifting consistently for about five years. I started off with CrossFit and then I realized the error of my ways. And I went in more of a powerlifting direction, but when I started CrossFit, I gained a ton of weight in a relatively short amount of time while cutting my calories and exercising like six times a week.

And- Wait, you said you gained a bunch of weight or you lost a bunch of weight? Yes, I gained a bunch of weight. So you cut your calories and worked out like crazy and gained weight? Yeah. Okay. And so I do have a little bit of like disordered eating in my background as well. Before I had started working out, I had just significantly cut down my calories.

And I am not in that place anymore. I've like full transparency, like been going to therapy and all of that to address those issues and that's been really helpful. But I had a bunch of doctors tell me things like my weight gain was because of my weight lifting and my strength training. And they refused to test hormones, they refused to test my thyroid, all of that stuff. So I had to like go through a lot of doctors and I finally found one that was willing to run those tests and it came back that my testosterone is like through the floor and my progesterone and estrogen are also on the low side. So I'm just wondering moving forward

since I am eating to fuel my workouts and I am higher protein and all of that. I'm just wondering what a realistic expectation as far as that recomp goes. And how to approach that in a smart way. Okay, so let's back up for a second, okay? Just talk about her broken food skills. Yeah, yeah, I know.

For us, hey, so I want to go back to what you said earlier because I want to get this straight here, correct. We'll try maybe even figure this out. You dramatically increased your activity and dramatically cut your calories and gained weight. Okay, so were you tracking calories? How did you know that the calories changed dramatically? How much weight did you gain and was it water? What happened here?

So I was tracking my calories when I was like in a really disordered place with my eating and that was as few as like between 900 and 11 calories a day. And then when I started working out and doing that more consistently, I did get hungrier and like despite eating within like a like a whole 30 parameter. So still not super great with with like that food relationship. But despite that, I gained like 60 pounds. So you gained 60 pounds from going from 900 to 1100 calories to 1500 calories plus resistance training. Okay and was this a healthy 60 pounds do you feel? No. Okay. No. I think some of it was needed. I think some of it is muscle. But like my body comp right now I am like around 35% body fat, which does not reflect my habits.

Okay. And then are you on, now you're on hormone therapy, are there supplementing hormones to bring things back up? Yeah. And do you mind if I ask what you're taking? Is it testosterone, progesterone, and estrogen, or just? It's so my functional medicine practitioner is going through more of a holistic protocol before we go through like the injection route and all of that. So she has me on some more natural supplements and is addressing some like vitamin deficiencies that I have. Okay, so you're not taking any hormones is what you're saying right now. Okay.

Are you in our Mind Pump Hormones group yet? No. That's free, so while we're talking, get your ass in there. That's a good. Yeah, it really gets experts on hormones in there. Okay, so what it sounds like your functional medicine practitioner is trying to do is get you healthy. And nutrient deficiencies,

overtraining, you know, disorder eating can cause a lot of hormonal issues and weird things to happen in the body. And what might have happened with that weight gain was you starved yourself so much that your body was ready to absorb and suck in and store any additional calorie it probably could when you finally started to feed yourself a little bit more. So that's probably what happened. Okay, so your question is about testosterone. Okay. If your testosterone levels are up and nothing else changes, you can

expect to gain muscle and burn body fat. That's a recomp effect that happens from testosterone. It's well documented. But in the studies where that happens, it's supplemental testosterone. Okay. So it's like nothing changes, you give someone testosterone, either through injection or cream or pellet, and then you see muscle gain and fat loss. Now, the reason why I'm trying to be clear with that is because if you raise testosterone naturally, many of the effects that you'll see will come from the,

things that you're doing to raise the testosterone, and then the testosterone goes up. So the difference between raising testosterone naturally and taking exogenous testosterone is with exogenous testosterone, your testosterone is high no matter what. With natural testosterone, you got to change a lot of things in your lifestyle to make that go up. And the things that you change in your lifestyle often result in what you're looking for, which is more muscle, more strength, less body fat, and feeling better. Does this make sense? Yeah, yeah, it does.

I honestly, when my hormone levels came back to my doctor, she was kind of surprised that I am as strong as I am. So I just, I don't want to put my body back in a place where I'm just like beating a dead horse. Bailey, besides your functional medicine practitioner, are you, and you don't have to answer this if you don't feel comfortable? Are you working with a therapist that specializes in body image issues and disorder reading? Yep. Okay. That's the best investment I think you can make.

Because in order to do what you need to do for your health, and of course when you get healthy, and this is important for you to understand, when you improve your health, all the other stuff that you're looking for, right, the leaner body, the more strength, looking a particular way, or whatever, that will follow the health.

Okay, so we just do a whole single topic. Absolutely. We did. It'll follow the health. So as you get healthier, the other stuff starts, it trails behind, but it starts to show up as the health improves. And it takes a little longer than the health markers do, but it will follow. And the challenge is gonna be being able to do what you need to do and wait that. Pure dedication. Patient.

And that's why working with the therapist is by far of all the stuff that you're investing and probably the best investment because I, I mean, there's nothing's gonna get in your way like yourself. So that's gonna be the biggest obstacle for you. Now as far as your exercises concern. Yeah, what's the training like?

Oh, I would be 100% focused on just feeling good. And if you need to focus on a goal, I would make it strength. And not that you can't get disordered with strength. You can get very dysfunctional with strength too, but it's harder to get stronger while also having your health suffer. Usually, and not saying it's not possible, it's plenty of power lifters and bodybuilders out there, harder to get stronger while also having your health suffer. Usually, and not saying it's not possible,

it's plenty of power lifters and bodybuilders out there that do it, but it's harder. If your strength gains are going up consistently, it usually means that your health is better off than it was before. If your health is declining, it's hard to also make strength gains. But like I said, it's still possible.

It's just harder. So if you have to focus on anything, I would focus on strength. Well, let's dive into that a little bit. What is your strength training routine look like right now? How many days a week are you training? What's the kind of the breakdown look like? Are you still in the kind of strength focus

or are you running like a five by five? Are you following in the maps programs? What are we looking like? Yeah, so I, like once I left CrossFit, I just started doing maps programs So I'm working my way through again right now through maps red I did Your power lift program like this summer and competed and like had a bunch of fun with that. Oh cool. Yeah

That's great. Yeah, you're on your own point. Have you done maps strong yet? No, not yet. Oh, you'll love that. Yeah, on your own point. Have you done map strong yet? Uh, no, not yet. Oh, you'll love that. Yeah. You'll love map strong. Where you at right now is great. I'd like to have you in anabolic. So anabolic, seeing the therapist, working with the functional

practitioner to try and first naturally balance your hormones out, get in the mind pump hormones forum so that you can sit there and pick the brain of Dr. Ran and Dr. Todd. They're in there all the time answering questions. They're phenomenal. Um, but, answering questions, they're phenomenal. But it sounds like you're on the right path right now. I think you just need to be patient. Be patient.

And don't try and rush this process. But it sounds like you're listening to good people, and you're following the right type of a routine and heading the right direction. Yeah. Do you follow a lot of influencers and stuff on social media? Absolutely not. Okay, thank you. Good. In fact, I would say get off. I would say just don't even go on social media at all. That's such a toxic place. She's doing a lot of the right things. You just need to be patient.

You're doing good. Yeah, you're on the right track, Bailey, and I appreciate you calling in. You have access to a lot of our programs. Are you in our other private form, the one that costs money to have access to? No, I'm not. All right, we'll let you in there. I would love for you to give us periodic updates, and it's a great place, too, to get some feedback,

because I know it's gonna be, it's a challenging process. Okay, you won't be alone. There's actually plenty of people that are in a similar boat as you have that are in that form. So we'll let you in there, okay? We appreciate you calling them, thank you. That's awesome, thank you, you won't be alone. There's actually plenty of people that are in a similar boat as you at that that are in that form So we'll let you in there, okay? We appreciate you, Colin. Thank you. That's awesome. Thank you guys. No problem. Thank you, baby Boy, that's a that's a tough one, right? But I think the therapist is gonna be her best bet. Oh man. She's I mean, she's doing all the right things Yeah, you know, she really is so me and she sought that help right away

So that's you know, she's she's doing making steps in the right drive. Yeah, you know what this call was for her. She just wants validation. That's all it is. That's everything. Yeah, I think she just wants to make sure him, I check in all the boxes. And she literally, everything we ask, she said, yes, do. She's on the right program.

She's got a therapist. She's addressing the functional direction first, so trying to naturally bring up all her hormone balance, her hormones out. Yeah, I, you know, I would not tell her to do it. And the other thing is just to be patient because it just folks, something getting healthy. Yes, step one, when you hammer those hormones man, that it could take, I've seen things flip around.

I've seen clients, we change a few things, and bam, right away their bodies responding and changing. Then I've seen other people, it takes a long time. It does. So you just gotta be patient and consistent with this. But beyond being patient, because sometimes when you say be patient, I think that people think, oh, if I'm patient enough,

then something's gonna happen, I'm gonna hit the skull. But the truth is it's just a lifelong journey. And you improve, you continuously improve along the way. Just keep chipping away. But there is no target, you know, I'm just like, oh my god, I did it.

I was patient and now it happened. Because I think if people have that mentality, then it's like, it could be very, very challenging. It's a forever process. And once you accept that, understand that. I think it makes staying on that path a lot easier. Our next color is mica from Alabama. Micah, what's happening?

How can we help you? Hey guys, it's Doug to be here. I'm excited to be your podcast and so looking forward to asking my question. So I'll go ahead and jump right into it. So my church is putting on a men's retreat coming up here in March and which is awesome. Shout out to the assistant church in Birmingham, Alabama. But one of the activities that we can, that we're going to be doing out there, is to run a Spartan race. Now this is one of the things I've been meaning to do in my bucket list for a long time now,

but it also comes at a very tough time for me as far as training goes. So to give you a little bit of background, I became a dad for the first time about eight months ago, which is awesome, best experience of my life. But also it has limited my training. So before I became a dad, I was doing split training, but a little bit of cardio sprinkled in. But ever since I've become a dad, I have limited my training to about two to three times a week at this point point doing full body training

basically mainly on what you guys have told me in the podcast. And I've gotten a lot of good results with that, but I know in order to run this part race, I'm going to need to change things up. Most of the training programs that I've seen have said that you need to do training about four to five times a week, which is not realistic for me at this time. But so I got to basically keep it to two to three times a week. And I'm wondering, and my questions are this, one, is it realistic for me to train for this Spartan race when we train in two to three times a week? And secondly, if it is, how should I prioritize endurance training versus strength training in order to prepare for this?

Yeah, good question. So you're limited to two or three days a week, right? That's what we're working with. And now, is it realistic to train for this race? That way, yeah, it's realistic. I don't know if it's going to make you the best version of yourself, but can you do it in three days a week?

You definitely can. The way that I would organize it is one day a week would be traditional strength training with maybe some mobility. The other two days a week would be very obstacle course racing specific where you're practicing the events and the runs and the, you know, the rings and all the movements and activities you'll be doing in the race. I would do that the other two days a week. I think with the three-day limitation that we have, that would probably be the best way that I would organize a workout. Yeah, I actually think that you could totally do this. A 10-K Spartan race is a little

over six miles. If you build enough endurance to get through six miles and then incorporate some of the things like grip strength and pull-ups and things carrying things which obstacle course racing has got in there. We have a map, so see our program, so I'll have Doug send that over to you. It is a little more than just two days a week, so you can, but what you can do is take pull for, yeah, pull two of those days out of there. And then what I would do is every day before I start my routine, I would run one mile and then try to on the weekends or once a week, go get one, one of those weekends, I try and get a two mile run in, which we're hopefully this doesn't take, but, you know, 15, 20 minutes of your time.

Another day or another day or another week, I should say, I would do a three mile. And then at the end of the month, I would try and do a six mile run. And combining that with the two days a week of like a full body strength routine that incorporates the pull-ups and carries and things like that, I think you could actually do pretty damn well at the Spartan race. Yeah, what's nice about the OCR one, that program that we came up with too, it also has mobility sessions in there to kind of compliment a lot of these grip,

intensive type of events and obstacles that are in front of you. So there's also a way to kind of scale that in terms of grip strength so you can perform well while doing these and building up your endurance. So just like they said, just kind of pull and extract some of these workouts from the program. And I think you can, you can strategically get a lot out of that just with three days a week.

On the day that you endurance, do you believe that since I get off very late on something like, do you think it would be realistic to do it on a treadmill or an elliptical bus is running outside every time? Yeah. I I mean if you have to, you're better, look the closer you can get to what the race is going to be like the better, but if you can't do that, then you can try simulating it on a piece of equipment. And treadmill will be better in elliptical in this case. It's going to simulate running obviously better than elliptical, but yeah, no, absolutely. The big thing is going to be your gas tank, that's what you're doing. In fact, I think in maps, OCR,

I mean, we wrote that program a while ago, but I think we have treadmill-specific workouts in there. So, in the next test, in there too, that you kind of work up too. So I would probably, you know, look into that for like, you know, once a month, you kind of test it out and see where you stand in terms of your time and everything.

So that way you have some kind of a gauge as far as how you're programming is paying off. We just talked to somebody similar, you'd be amazed by how much you can improve your cardiovascular endurance just by simply running a mile or two every time you go to work out. And that really shouldn't take up a lot of your time to do that.

And week over week, you'll quickly see yourself start to improve on that time. And then you only need to, you know, once or twice a month do something that's even close to comparable as far as the distance. So, saying, you know, four to six miles, once or twice a month. So, like one of those days, you take off for, you know, 20 minutes and do a run. You do that consistently leading up to the competition. And then if you're also incorporating exercises that are going to challenge grip and pull up strength and carrying, which is in OCR, you're going to do fine, man. You'll do great. Yeah, we'll send over maps OCR for you so you can you have some stuff to pull from. Okay, Michael? All right, thanks. Well, thank you, guys. No problem. Congratulations on being your dad.

I had a bad out. Why don't you help me so much in my personal life? Because I'm starting to miss you, your podcast about me. First, to the time I became a dad, and you guys really taught me how to bounce out, getting that to really be in the back of the same time. And secondly, you also, guys, also help me out in my career.

I'm a physical therapy assistant here at the VA. And a lot of the things you taught me, I'm able physical therapy assistant here at the VA, and a lot of the things you talk about me, I'm able to apply as well as a physical therapy and help through a few, so I want to say thank you guys for everything that you do. Oh, thank you, Michael. I really appreciate that. Boy, these obstacle course races are so popular now.

They're just, they're doing them everywhere. Yeah, well, they're fun, I guess. Yeah, getting outside, getting dirty, getting after, I think it just has its own appeal in terms of doing something completely outside your comfort zone. Yeah, I also think that, yes, if you're advanced, you're probably gonna be training five days a week or so,

but most people can make tremendous progress with a few days a week. At some point, you may reach the point where you need to add an extra day, but I think people, they overestimate that. Oh, I need to add an extra day. It's like, there's a lot you could do with these three days before you add more time.

There's this misconception of, more means you're gonna get more results. You can get plenty of progress, especially when I'm talking about 10K is only six miles. So to get somebody good at running for six miles, it doesn't take as that much time and effort towards that. I mean, you can, and you don't also have to do it every time. It doesn't go out and run six miles every day

to get good at running six miles. You can break it up in one mile, two mile, three mile, total increments and improve that every week. Totally. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness school. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at Mind Pump

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