Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1749: Hacks to Stay Consistent With Workouts, Tips for Eliminating Brain Fog, Ways to Alleviate Knee Pain & More

Episode Date: February 12, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Your knee pain often has NOTHING to do with the knees. (3:43) Justin’s massive parenting mista...ke. (11:47) Aging, identity crisis, and the dangers of fame. (14:29) How 30% of gyms have been closed permanently since the beginning of the pandemic. (27:25) NCI, the king of online coaching. (32:47) Understanding the risk management of your daily decisions. (35:57) The guy’s underwhelming chef dinner experience. (39:05) Mind Pump addresses the Joe Rogan controversy. (43:57) How GoFundMe did the Canadian truckers dirty. (53:18) What is an NFT rug pull? (54:55) Is North Korea funding its missile projects with crypto? (57:39) #ListenerLive question #1 - What are your thoughts on nootropics, like choline and piracetam, to eliminate brain fog? (1:00:37) #ListenerLive question #2 - What are some hacks to stay consistent with my workouts? (1:13:24) #ListenerLive question #3 - What are some ways to alleviate knee pain? (1:26:47) #ListenerLive question #4 - What are the best ways to improve my fitness and health after recovering from COVID? (1:36:51) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: live@mindpumpmedia.com February Promotion: MAPS Performance and MAPS Aesthetic 50% off!! **Promo code “FEB50” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Prime Pro MAPS Prime Pro Webinar The Importance of Mobility Training in Regards to Chronic Pain – Mind Pump Blog Jackass Forever (2022) - IMDb How Many Health Clubs, Gyms, and Studios Closed in 2021 Mind Pump #1525: The Death Of The Gym Industry?: A Reality Check With UFC Gym CEO Adam Sedlack Get 50% Off Your Nutritional Coaching Institute Enrollment! Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Spotify and the Joe Rogan podcast: Everything you need to know Joe Rogan Responds to $100 Million Podcast Offer From Right-Wing Platform GoFundMe investigated for blocking donations to truckers GoFundMe backtracks on redistributing money for Canadian truckers, under threat of fraud investigation What Is A Rug Pull In NFTs & Crypto NFT scammers made off with $1.3 million in solana after a 'rug pull' despite the project creators being vetted Jake Tran - YouTube North Korea stole a record $400 million in cryptocurrency last year, researchers say Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “mindpump” at checkout for 15% off your first order** Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** Piracetam Supplement - Examine.com Choline Supplement - Examine.com Mind Pump #1522: How To Stay Consistent With Your Diet & Workout MAPS Fitness Prime MAPS Prime Webinar The SOLUTION to Knee Pain & Hip Pain (MIND PUMP) Mind Pump #1372: How To Fix Knee Pain The Role of Glutathione in Protecting against the Severe Inflammatory Response Triggered by COVID-19 Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Starter MAPS Fitness Anabolic Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Adam Sedlack (@ufcgymperez)  Instagram Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Now we open the episode with a intro portion. So we're going to talk about current the live question So here's what went down in today's episode we opened up by talking about how knee pain Oftentimes has nothing to do with the knees then just and talked about how he took his son his 12 year old son to an inappropriate movie Bad decision then we talked about aging and fitness how 30% of gyms have closed permanently and we talked about the rise in online fitness coaching. Thank God there are certifications like NCI. NCI specializes in teaching trainers how to coach people online and how to build their business. And right now they have 50% off their enrollment.
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Starting point is 00:02:03 Felix Gray. Then we talked about the chef instruction dinner that we went to over the weekend that sucked. We talked about Joe Rogan and the controversy. We talked about GoFundMe and their controversy. Then we talked about NFTs. And we talked about how North Korean hackers have been stealing crypto to fund their missiles. Then we got to the questions. The first question was from Cara from Colorado.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Her question was about neutropics like Pericitam. Then we talked to Chris from Montana. His questions revolved around how to stay consistent with his workouts. The third question was Gabby from California. Her knees hurt wants to know what she can do. And then we talked to Ashlyn from Minnesota, this person had some advice from fitness influencers,
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Starting point is 00:03:33 And the 50% off code for both of them is F-E-B50. Again, that's F-E-B50, no space for that 50% off discount. Hey, does your knee hurt? Oftentimes the knee pain is actually not coming from your knee. It's caused by something else. So that means you have knee. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:52 This, the reason why I wanted to say this is we had a question on. Not just one. We've had like three or four in the week. We have Maps Prime Pro is a correctional exercise kind of based program. And all the major joints are in there that you can address, except for the knees. And oftentimes, we get people messaging us, why aren't the knees on here? My knees hurt, and that's a common area that people have pain.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And so I wanted to explain a little bit about knee pain and what the most common reasons are that your knees tend to bother you. So the best explanation I can give is this, is that the knee joint itself, although it's way more complex than the way I'm gonna make it sound, it really only has two functions, it flexes and extends. So I can bend my knee and I can straighten my knee, flex and extend.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I can't rotate the knee joint, I can't bend it laterally, I can only flex my knee and extend my knee, but the ankle joint and the hip joint that are attached closest to the knee, they're very dynamic, right? I can rotate my ankle to a certain degree. I can definitely bend it laterally, flex it and extend it. My hip joint, I can rotate it, bend it laterally, I can flex it, I can extend it. And so when those joints lack stability, they lack strength or mobility. What happens is the ligaments of the knee
Starting point is 00:05:08 that keep it from doing anything but flexing and extending, all those ligaments that keep it from rotating and bending laterally, they have to bear the brunt of the pressure to prevent the knee from doing these things. So if your ankles and your hips are off, oftentimes over time, you'll start to have knee pain. And you're like, well, it's something that's wrong. It's trying to make up for a lot of the stress
Starting point is 00:05:26 that it needs to stabilize the knee. And a lot of times because your ankle and your hips are so dynamic, you'll get put in a lot of different angles. And your knee will tend to travel in one direction or the other and to try and keep it stable. A lot of times just stress this it out and then the ligaments take the brunt of the force. The same principles apply for the elbow too.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So if you're suffering from elbow pain, a lot of people are always looking for like exercises that can do or things that can do for the elbow itself, but many times that's related to the wrist or the shoulder. So if you have poor mobility in your shoulder or your wrist or lack stability and control in either those joints, the stress goes to the elbow. So a lot of times you're looking at the area
Starting point is 00:06:08 that's bothering you thinking that there's something wrong there, but it's actually stemming from one of the other joints. Yeah, think of it this way, right? Like, I think of a submission to just to call the heel hook, right? So if I took your foot, I string your leg out, and I go to twist your leg, but your hip won't rotate. For whatever reason, your hip lax mobility.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And I start twisting. The ligaments in the knee are going to have to hold tight, and if I twist hard enough, I'm going to tear your knee. And so this is your last line of defense. It is. And so this is the problem. So people will squat and lunge and deadlift and do all these different exercises. And their ankles and knees aren't doing, excuse me, their ankles and hips aren't doing
Starting point is 00:06:42 what they're supposed to. And over time, you know, when the knee flexes and extends the kneecap kind of tracks, there's like a little groove in the femur and the kneecap tracks in it and things have to be in the right position. Well, if it's, if pressures, you know, being put in one direction, things start to track wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:59 The joint strength starts to get undue pressure, over time that builds inflammation. Then you go to the doctor, they image your knee and they go, oh, you have inflammation in your knee, but they never address, right? Or oftentimes they don't address the root cause, which is it's because your ankles are tight or immobile or weak or your hips
Starting point is 00:07:16 or tight or immobile and weak. And so this is why oftentimes, oftentimes the solution for chronic knee pain resides there and not in the actual, you know, doing stuff with the knee itself, type of deal. The low back is like this too. A lot of times clients will have, you know, say they have a bad back or their low back
Starting point is 00:07:33 is always bothering them and they think it's their low back where the issue is and a lot of times it's related to your hips, the inability to control and have stability in your hips and mobility in them is them is causing the low back to be stressed a lot of times too. Yeah, and think about this way, right? Like, you're like, oh, my knees bother me when I squat.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So I'm gonna put knee sleeves or knee wraps, right? What those are doing is they're doing the job or it's like your ligaments except externally. And now you've added more ligaments in support. So now the knee doesn't hurt as much. Again, not addressing the root issue, which is when you squat, maybe your knee is trying, it's pushing it, you know, laterally, or there's some rotate, sometimes if you feet, your ankles are tight and you go down to squat, there's this rotational pressure that happens
Starting point is 00:08:19 because really tight ankles, when you squat down, they want to turn out. But if your feet are grounded, that rotational pressure then gets taken on by the knee. Like, God, it's weird when I squat heavy, I have this weird pain inside my knee. Like, there must be some wrong on my knee. And it's just a little tiny degree of change if it's off track, just that little bit. Like your analogy with the sliding glass door.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah. Just that little fractional inch that it's off, you know, it just it ruins the whole thing. Like the whole thing is, is you know, based on the fact that it stays stable in these movements. And if it's not, there's lots of compensations that have to occur, which stresses out, you know, the entire system. Well, it's really obvious too. Like when you go through Maps Prime Pro and when, and most often when someone has has a knee issue, it's normally on one side or the other
Starting point is 00:09:07 more than the other side. So this is where it becomes really obvious of what the issue is, is when you get into and you do the 90, 90 tests, or you do the ankle mobility test in Prime Pro, if the side that you have pain in your knee also has issues in the 90, 90 position and or the ankle, you know this is where it's coming from.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And that's how you know you start, you need to work on that. It's like, you know, okay, I've got pain on the side when I get down in this 90-90. Oh, wow, I can't even get my knee on the ground or I can't lift my back heel up in that position. Oh, there's obviously a stability issue and control and mobility issue in that hip. That's where you need to start is addressing that. And then the same thing goes for the ankle. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I mean, I experienced this myself a couple of years ago, I was on vacation and I was working out in a hotel gym. This was in Mexico. It was just real warm and kind of humid or whatever. And there were marble floors. And as I was leaving the gym, I fell down the stairs. And my left foot, I sat on it and kind of slid. And I thought for sure when I got to the gym, I fell down the stairs, and my left foot, I sat on it and kinda slid, and I thought for sure when I got to the bottom,
Starting point is 00:10:07 I tore something. Yeah. Now, when I stood up, luckily I didn't tear anything, but I did do a number on my left ankle, and since then my left ankle's always had a little bit less mobility than my right. So still to this day, if I squat heavy, and if there's any issues with my form, I feel it in my left knee.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I never feel it in my left ankle, but that's where it's coming from. Because as my left ankle is tight, that's exactly what happens. As I squat, I know what happens to compensate my leg wants to rotate, but because my foot is so grounded, I get that rotational pressure in my left knee, which goes to my meniscus, right? And so then I'm squatting, so I'm bending the joint with this. With the kinetic chain. Yes, and I'm bending the knee while I'm with weight, but the meniscus is holding tight
Starting point is 00:10:52 preventing things from twisting. With enough weight in wraps, you're gonna start to develop pain. And these are the causes of chronic pain, which by the way, it's different than a acute injury, right? So if your knee hurts because you just tore your knee. Yeah. Okay, that's different.
Starting point is 00:11:07 But if you're like, oh, my knee, you know, it always bothers me and it's been an issue I've had for a couple of years and I don't know what that deal is. I want to walk too much or run too much or do lots of squats, I start to bother my knee. It's coming from a dysfunction and it's usually the joints closest to the knee. Like in this case, in this case, the knee is surrounded by or connected to very in
Starting point is 00:11:32 content in the in comparison, very dynamic joints. You can do a lot of things with your ankle and your hip, especially your hip. Your knee doesn't do those things. It just flexes and extends. So that's where a lot of the pain comes from. You develop a pain, though. So since you mentioned pain, there was a painful moment for me this weekend
Starting point is 00:11:51 that I was like, oh no, did I make a massive parity mistake or what? Oh no. So I had the full day with my oldest, Ethan, and it was cool, because I don't really get a lot of alone time. Like it's usually like with both boys And so I usually have to kind of tone down the fact that he's older. He's three years older and so like we do a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:12:12 That's not to So they're mature so they ever can do also. Yeah, so ever could can hang with us and deal that so he was actually doing his own thing Yeah, so well first off we start by going paintballing, which I thought was awesome. It was fun and we got a lot of fun doing that with his cousin and my brother-in-law. And yeah, so we went after it. And then I got home and I'm like, you know what? We don't really get to go see more kind of mature movies.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And Jack asked just came out. And I remember that, how hilarious, like the last couple were, more kind of mature movies and Jackass just came out. Oh, God. And I remember that, like, how hilarious, like the last couple were, but, like, you know, there's some scenes and some skits in there that were definitely suspect, like, not, you know, like, they've had stuff where they've had a drink, and, you know, they, so anyways,
Starting point is 00:13:01 like, we put all of that stuff that was bad, they put in the new one and times like 10. Oh, right. So it was like, they come right out the gates too, or warm you up a little bit. There was so many dicks in this movie, dude, that I cannot explain to my kid. You know, I'm just sitting there like, what have I done?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Like the opening scene, and I don't care if it's, literally, you're gonna see it. You have to see it to, I appreciate anything spoiling about that. You can spoil any of it. Yeah, you can spoil it just block twist. Most of these like have been reenacted skits anyways that they just put themselves in like serious harms way.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So the guy Chris Pontius, I think he starts off, he painted his dick green, right? And he's like underneath this platform where basically they turned it into like a Godzilla. And so they're like puppeteering his dick and like Everybody's like running away and stuff and like, you know buildings are smashing So they did this whole thing where it was like so that's the opener, right? And I'm like, oh my god I like it you see everything yeah, and You's definitely circumcised you know congratulations and
Starting point is 00:14:12 You know and then it gets into like all this other crazy stuff, dude I can't believe that Johnny Knoxville still alive dude. He did the same on the bowl It hit him so hard like he landed broke his arm and then was like out, blacked out, and like I thought he died. So what's your guys' theory on these guys still doing this? Like, do they need the money? Do you like, they've already made a ton of money, right? Doing this stuff. Yeah, well, first thing.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I mean, they're known for this. Like, I think this is like their identity at this point. I know, but these guys are in their, I mean, they're late 40s now. Late 40s. And they're not like normal, healthy, late 40s. None of them look good. They've pushed the limit forever.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And I know part of their, didn't one of them die, didn't one of them take his life. Right, I've done die. In the group, right? He, like, smashed his Lambo or whatever. And I know they've all kind of gone through their, their addiction for a while. So they've all had kind of issues like that.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So do you have any, do you have any idea on the backstory on them? Like, was this like a money grab because they maybe some of them might be hurt and financially or it's like every union, or we're gonna do this one last time? You got Johnny Knoxville who's kind of was in the acting realm, like was in a few movies that were hit or miss. And then you had like,
Starting point is 00:15:22 so Steve O is like becoming a standup comedian and does tours and stuff and I think he's like somewhat successful with that. I've seen him on billboards. Yeah, so he does, I think it is a Vegas a lot, but I don't really know a lot about the rest of the guys other than I'm sure that this was like, one of those the producer of the other movies
Starting point is 00:15:42 was like, come on guys and was like probably like how into them about this and like throw a cash at them And it was probably just like a total cash well I think it'd be tough when that's your identity, right? That's what you're known for and Then you get older and you start to feel a relevant and you're like you want to bring it back You want to feel relevant against you. Yeah, so you staple your dick to a Dubai for something Oh my god, it's no different It's no different than We're stuff than that. It's no different than when a boxer is in his,
Starting point is 00:16:07 you know, he's done and he gets back in the ring. Or a fighter, think about it. Steve will put a clean bee on his dick and then like all of the bees swarmed around and he had this like swarms hanging off, getting stung like a hundred times on a sack. Wow. I was like, ah, like I hundred times on a sack. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I was like, ah, like I can't even imagine. Hold on. I mean, did you get up and leave at any point where you like, son, we're going this. I was like this and I was looking over at Ethan and he's just like, ah, like, oh my God. Traumatized. Yeah, yeah, I probably tried to.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So I've made some, I made similar mistakes when we use this because my oldest son you you're excited to do things with them Yeah, so you kind of do them a little too early About some of the yeah, do I traumatize them like we got to watch this and it terrified him and then you Scared to watch you for like a year So you look up how much how much they made off those movies.'m curious like how how much money do you obviously? K when you when they first came up I mean I love that's hilarious right like you're you can't you you come from from not very much right and then Make potentially millions of dollars by doing all the start off making those skaters. Yeah, they did the homes doing crazy
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, like same stuff Margarita. Yeah, it started. Yeah, it started with a couple of them and some other guys doing some of the underground videos, which I had seen those before and then it turned into like the, but I mean, to get the fame and to get the money, I could see, like you could probably ask a lot of people, hey, if I paid you $5 million, would you do all this crazy shit? They say yes, but if you already had the money. Wow, the first one brought in $117 million,
Starting point is 00:17:43 second one, 102, I mean, and I'm sure that the budget wasn't massive, you know, for these. And that's not including how much they made with the show that was on MTV. These are the movies. Because the show on MTV crushed. Oh yeah, I think I'm out. Now I wonder how much,
Starting point is 00:17:58 because that's how much they made in the box office. So they didn't make that. So curious to what, yeah, I'm curious to what each one of them were kind of getting paid. Johnny Knoxville, how much money he's probably making the most, right? He's probably, yeah, he's the face of it. So he probably made the most.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Dude, but give the guy credit. Like he did the craziest stunts on all of them, man. He was shot out of the cannon. I mean, he did the bull thing. He did, what was the other one? He did the one where like, basically, you know how you get like a big guy that's like a blob? He like drops down and he was sitting in this furniture store
Starting point is 00:18:30 as an old dress was an old man. Yeah, yeah. And like this guy, oh, falls off the ladder, like he's fixing something. And then boom, he hits him and it goes all the way through the roof and everybody that was working there were like, oh my God, what happened? He's like right through the roof, dude. I think it there, we're like, oh my God, what happened? He said, right through the roof.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I think it's one of those things where you see this a lot, sometimes with athletes, where they have like their golden years, and it's hard to let go of. Because that becomes, it's psychological. So I think it's more like this,
Starting point is 00:18:58 we're totally speculating, no one knows for sure. I think it's more like, you may, so it's not worth a 75 million, right? So he's made tens of millions of dollars, and I'm sure there was like a huge hockey stick thing, right? He wasn't making any money, then all of a sudden the first one, second one, third one. And then you get four or five lambo's, two or three houses. Like, yeah, property taxes, and luxury tax, and stuff starts coming.
Starting point is 00:19:23 That's kind of factory. Yeah, and then you're like, oh shit, you know, 10 years down the road, 15 years down the road, you're going like, oh wow, I love this lifestyle that I have, and I am definitely burning a whole pretty fast, and you got to wonder like, okay, I mean, maybe they have, I have no idea what their investments look like,
Starting point is 00:19:40 but I would think it's more like that, it's like, oh shit, let's do another grab while we still can. And, you know, I mean, they gotta be like, but I would think it's more like that. It's like, oh shit, let's do another grab while we still can. And, you know, they gotta be like, they're 50s. Like, you know, Johnny Knoxville and Steve, I know 71, is that what you just said, Doug? Yeah. Oh, so yeah. He's 50, 50.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, he's 50 years old. He's doing that kind of shit. Yeah, and you're not a normal 50 year old. Yeah, you don't, you don't, you're like a 70 year old at that point. They're like breaking their necks and like, they're in like on the stretchers like yeah, I roll an ankle now It's like a month recovery. Oh, dude Next day playing basketball the next day
Starting point is 00:20:14 Now days you roll it like sit on the toilet too long like what happened to my way? I don't know what I think it's both I think it's part of what you said Adam, but I think the other part is that becomes a part of your day. Oh, sure, so I mean, too. And then you're rich and you're sitting there and you're like, like, what now what? Like, what do I do? And then that's when you got all the attention. I see, but I feel like if you've got,
Starting point is 00:20:33 I mean, I feel like if you've got money coming in and you're able to do all those crazy things, then you're not letting that get to you. Maybe it's the combination of both, right? So the money's going really fast, and then in addition, that's your whole idea. You can't go do something else, really. Well, right? So the money's going really fast, and then in addition, that's your whole idea. You can't go do something else, really. Well, right?
Starting point is 00:20:48 So you're not getting paid. And I wonder how many of them actually went out and tried to do other stuff to see if they could actually make a real deal. They stayed in entertainment. A lot of them tried entertainment, which I think the smartest thing to do is when you make that money is to learn how to invest it.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And just stop trying to make that lightning happen twice. Bro, there's just, okay, so this one guy though, I like really felt bad for him. I feel like he got psychologically traumatized. He was like strapped into this chair and they put honey all over him and I think it's probably even in the preview with like salmon on him and he thought
Starting point is 00:21:19 like he was gonna get stung by bees and so he's freaking out. He's like, oh no, no, we're not using bees and then they locked the doors and then all of a sudden they let a bear. Oh, fucking bear eating off of him. And like scratching him and like shoving his head down his crotch eating stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And he's like, it's gonna eat my dad. Oh, and he's the risk to do something like that. Dude, I don't care if the bear's tamed or what, dude, there's food all over him. Who not, like he might just take a huge bite. Unacidating. Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And then right before he's gonna do that, the trainer came in and took him out. And then the guys like shaking and like thought, like more stuff was gonna happen. Oh, boy. Oh my God. What, hey, you know, it reminds me of this. It's like, it's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It reminds me of this. It's like, we all know people like this, right? And I even struggle with this. You work out for years and years and years. As you get older, in your 40s and your 50s, it's hard not to compare yourself to yourself when you're in your 20s or 30s, or other 20 and 30 year olds.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. When the reality, and when you do that, you get in trouble. When I've done this already, where I work and out, and I'm like, ooh, I feel strong. And I remember what I did when I was 32, and I in trouble. When I've done this already, where I work and out, and I'm like, oh, I feel strong, and I remember what I did when I was 32, and I'm like, can I beat that again? And it's like, what you have to do
Starting point is 00:22:30 is compare yourself to, really it's the context, right? If you're 50 and you're fit, you compare yourself to other 50-year-olds. You're way better off than that, but don't compare yourself to it. It makes me wonder what's gonna happen to, because really this whole influencer market is relatively new, right?
Starting point is 00:22:46 So maybe what, 10 years? It's kind of been around. So it makes me really wonder like what that's gonna look like, you know, 20 years down the road when a lot of these like really popular kids on Instagram that got famous because of the way they look or the crazy shit they did.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And then it's like had all this money and had all this attention and kind of fame. And then the, I wonder if we're gonna see if it's gonna be even worse than what you see with so like traditional celebrities. If the crash is gonna become more of them faster and harder, I think then what you see, I think the rise is faster, right?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Exactly, I think that's the factor, right? Like as quickly as you make your way to fame and fortune, like the fall usually happens even faster. If you're valued for your beauty, wow, you better not identify with that because you're gonna be screwed. At some point, it's even worse.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Social media influencers and people that are, you know, quote unquote famous on Instagram, it's like, it's accepted that you all Photoshop and use editing and things like that. So it's like, talk's accepted that you all photoshop and use editing and things like that. So it's like, talk about totally distorting. It's one thing to be like famous and on camera and known for being this beautiful star or what have I thought, but it's still pretty much you.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Like these people are distorting the way they look to present themselves a certain way. I mean, come on. This is why I was at the mall the other day with the kids and there was a billboard, it was like a day with the kids and there was a billboard, it was like a makeup store or whatever and there was a billboard with share. How old is share?
Starting point is 00:24:10 She's got to be 70s 80s. Maybe? Maybe the anti-aging serum. And there's like a picture of her and Jessica's like, oh my God, whatever. I'm like, I bet if we saw her in person, we would think she was like a walking like plastic corpse. 75.
Starting point is 00:24:24 75. You know what it is Now in her defense. She's looked pretty good for a long time. Yeah, she's kept her she's kept her so good job I think it's the plot. Yeah, it's probably yeah catching up with it What it is is that you know, she was known for her beauty you identify with that you don't want to age you can't accept it I mean would you still hit it or no what? Which you to say it on I don't know what To say it on I mean I'd still go with Jane fauna. It's like 80 and she still looks. Hell I would Jane Fonda was a
Starting point is 00:24:56 Colossus you lie you would still hit that No, it's not a milk. You like hair like that. That's a gift That's a g-gill That's a great G-Gil. That's a G-Gil. That's a great gil. It's a new kind of fun. You know what though? Fun that's so much that one. Hold on a second. Fun does a fitness fanatic though. She's always states. I think shares into fitness too, no? Yeah. Yeah, you know, maybe. Yeah, I think she's always been into fitness too.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't know. That's too big of an age gap for me. I don't know. It's a little too much. It's the granny. Well, Doug, you would ride a team. It's only a little too much. The granny. Well, Doug, you would, right? It's only a couple of years older. That's the thing. I've stayed out of this conversation and the current political climate. Doug likes the real house.
Starting point is 00:25:33 No, dude. You know, that's a very popular, I don't know this. That's a very popular pornography category for a lot of men is granny. They call it granny porn. Women in that. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yes. You know what? Is it just cause they're porn? The fact that it, women in that. Really? Yes. You know what makes me so curious, is it because they're porn? The fact that it's recommended in yours is weird to me. It does get recommended. I get the step sister on all of the time. No, that's a lot of kids. Everybody wants to bang their step sister.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, you know what it is, it's their taboo fantasy. But the granny one, there was a, I don't remember who wrote it, they're these scientists who were writing about pornography, searches and categories and why they exist and what makes them popular. And they said that one of the reasons why the granny porn one is tends to be popular is a lot of boys grow up
Starting point is 00:26:16 in these boarding schools and they get punished and, you know, by these older women. And you know the spanking thing, it's because oftentimes they would get spanked by a ruler by this old man. Is it what, do you know the psychology behind that? Is that because you're growing up at an age with like you're masturbating like crazy
Starting point is 00:26:36 and you get imprinted? Exactly, you get beat and then you find yourself masturbating 20 minutes later in the bathroom or some shit. I call him Pritt and Justin's right. It's like you're sexually developing and right. Thank you, you're sexually developing. And then during that time, you're, you know, your teacher who's, you know, 50 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Also yelling at you and you're like, yeah, or whatever. And so I'm really into car exhaust. What? What? What would you say? What? Let's forget that.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That's what you do. Car exhaust. You think you're diggin' a tailpipe? Yeah, what'd you do? Yeah, I was in the old car Hey, I mean, I do like the smell of exhaust don't don't give me wrong. Yeah, it's like it's only certain cars Guys got flow masters Reve it up. No stop. All right. Let's talk about some some bad news I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. or coming back in Europe, they're saying 50%. Of gyms. Woo! Permanently closed. Which, okay, there's a couple of things here. One. It's a tragedy. One, it makes me very sad and upset
Starting point is 00:27:51 because I don't think all those gyms would have been safe. I think the pandemic, some of them would have been shut down. Anyway, but definitely not 30%. That's a lot of that was caused by forced shut downs or whatever. So that's number one, and that's very sad to me. Because what it does, it just gives a greater market share to big corporations and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Two, it's a bit of an opportunity for the existing gyms, because you have 30% of your competitors. Yeah, gone. So I wonder what the existing gyms, now that people are going back to working out, you remember we speculated in this, I wonder if they're seeing a big picture. Yeah, I was talking to Adam not that long ago,
Starting point is 00:28:25 like maybe just a couple weeks ago. Oh, from UFC gym. Yeah, and they say they're doing really well. Nothing out of the crazy ordinary though, like so there's not, not like what you would think, right? You would think 30 to 50% of these gyms done and then you would think that there would be a huge, especially right now.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Well, it's probably like back to normal from like, like, because it was such low volume. I mean, numbers. My theory is that a good portion of that 30%. Let's, and I'm, again, just, we're speculating. 25% maybe were not operating very well as it was, and that was just like the straw that broke the camel's back. Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:03 That would be my guess. It would be, I mean, at least half. Yeah. At least half of, there were kind of sitting on that line. Yeah, right. And they couldn't survive a month. And we know how many trainers and people try and start up that business and then,
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's a hard business to make money. It is. And so, and then what percentage of those people just happen to start at a bad time. So maybe you, you, you could have been, or would have been a good business operator, but you like literally the lockdowns happened three months into opening your gym.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like I don't care how good of an operator you are. Good luck if you just started your business and then you're being told you gotta shut your doors down. So I would imagine there's a good percentage that were just poorly run. This was what exposed them. That another percentage that were just getting started, so that of course that crippled them,
Starting point is 00:29:48 they couldn't even get no momentum. That would be my guess. Otherwise, we should see this, like you should hear record numbers from Platte Fitness. Record numbers from USC. Well, think of it this way. If these bigger gym companies like Planet Fitness, and we'll see though,
Starting point is 00:30:03 Planet Fitness is gonna come out with their earnings I think after first quarter, right? But if they're doing good, let's say they're not doing like breaking that records, but they're doing good, I would like to see what percentage of people are actually still going to gyms and working out. I bet you haven't reached what it used to be. I bet there's still a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:30:20 So I would like to work at home. If you remember, that was our debate. Yeah, before this all went down, I debated that it would go back to people going back to gyms. I don't think it's fully done that. That's my opinion. I think we're still in the middle. Well, I mean, of course it hasn't.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I mean, I'm an example of that. I'm the one who was saying that it was gonna go back to gyms. I haven't been back to a gym. I've been training him in my garage or here at the studio. So I definitely think we still have time for it to happen. To go back that way. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know how many people have made the change
Starting point is 00:30:51 to at home training and are never going back. I feel it. Dude, I just feel like all of the information we've been providing over the years about the benefits of exercise and dialing in your nutrition. It's like we're starting all the way over from scratch because of this. It's like we just decided to throw that out and then oh yeah, we're, wait a minute. Wasn't there benefits to exercise in nutrition and why did we, like, we're going all the way
Starting point is 00:31:16 back and it's going to have to build up like from scratch. I mean, the truth that it's always been like this though, right? Like, I mean, we know, we know, like all the things that are are a lot of the health issues that we deal with in America right now, a good percentage of them can be, could have been handled by preventative by a good most of them. Yeah, that's the most same. Yeah. So it's, I mean, COVID just really highlighted that. Maybe it made people that maybe we're less aware, more aware, but we've been, this has been our battle for 20 years. You know what the problem is? I'll tell you right now, 100% what the problem was. It was people that maybe were less aware, more aware, but we've been, this has been our battle for 20 years. You know what the problem is?
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'll tell you right now, 100% what the problem was. It was that the fitness industry doesn't have a very powerful lobby. It's a fact. If they had a good lobby, they weren't represented well at all. No, they don't have a lobby. Look, in California, gyms were shut down. Hollywood was allowed to operate. Hollywood has lots of power.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Likker stores. Likker stores were still open. We dispensed. Yeah, I mean, there were small business. Trip clubs. There were small restaurants. This is true now. Yeah. In LA, there were little small restaurants shut down, forced to shut down, in their parking lots, movie sets set up with lots of people working. Because why the Hollywood and that industry has a large lobby. So what happens is the lobbyists go to Congress or go to the representatives and say, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:28 you got to keep us up, whatever. And then they make special arrangements. The gyms don't have that. Gyms are like, shut them down. And we're not going to play any political, we're not going to pay any political price, you know, for showing them now. I'll tell you what, I don't know how I would, because I owned a gym, right? Before mind pump, that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know how, man, I would have been bad, dude. Online coaching. Online coaching. Yeah, well that and I would have been, I would have had a speak easy. I would have been really pissed off. Oh yeah, I mean, you forced me to shut down, like, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:32:55 But the move was to go, if the move would be to go online coaching. Online coaching, we were saying that before any of this stuff. Yeah, well we already, like moved in that stuff. Yeah, I mean, half of what we're here doing what we're doing is you kind of saw the riding on the wall, that everything was moving in this direction. And we had been telling our audience well before COVID came around that you should be building somewhat of an online presence, even if you are an in-person trainer, you have your own gym, Birken mortar, you should build an online present to compliment that because that's the future of how things are going. Yeah. The fastest growing segment of the personal trainer, I guess you could put up market is
Starting point is 00:33:29 online coaching by far. Oh, yeah. Jason's getting flooded right now. Yeah. I was talking to this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I see a bunch of new faces every time I run those calls.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. Right now NCI is doing 50% off their enrollment, by the way. So yeah, because I talked to him and he's like, oh, we're exploding and we're not trying to slow down. We're gonna certify and get as many coaches out there. Good coaches is possible. So they're still doing the 50% off enrollment or whatever. Yeah, you and I have a call tonight with them, don't we?
Starting point is 00:33:55 We do, but it's blowing up because it's the pandemic really put more, it was already growing, by the way. Before the pandemic, it was the fastest growing segment of personal training because you could reach more people it's the capital required to start and the liabilities way smaller I just had a conversation with my cousin who she's a trainer she's you know training lots of clients sent me a text about opening her own place and I said you sure you want to do that there's a of capital, it costs you a lot of money, you start it, then you're on the hook for huge liability.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And then if you want to scale, you've got to repeat that again. If you do it online, I mean, it's still a business, you've got to build it, but your capital's low, you don't have any liability. And then scalability is infinite. Scaleability is great, but also there is a cap to it. So like there was another reserve was like,
Starting point is 00:34:44 well, it's in the market like flooded now. They can't be enough. There cannot be enough, especially though these closed chimps, like we need as many people out there in force as possible to help get people back on track. It's always, in my opinion, there's always gonna be room for good coaches and good trainers.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I mean, sure, it's flooded with a bunch of shit butts. I mean, if you're gonna stand out like, yeah, no, I'm not making that word. And I think that, and I do think that the old 80, 20 rule will remain true. 80% of the people will only make 20% of the money, 20% of the people will make 80% of the money. But that percentage grow, that total pie is gonna go.
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's right. So 20% is gonna represent a lot more. That's right. And we're seeing that. And I, you know, I do think what you said was true. What you called not that long ago about the, you know, because the CDC starting to come out and kind of recant some of the things we're saying.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And now we're changing the direction of how important it is to be health and to not be obese with COVID. A lot of fear motivated. Yeah. So, you, I mean, now you're going to get a wave of people that may not have been Jim Goers before, but now feel like, oh my God, because the CDC says it and that we're pushing people
Starting point is 00:35:50 in this direction. So, I mean, that's gonna bring a whole new wave of people into the space, I think. Totally, totally. All right, so I had this good conversation with my wife yesterday. So, remember how I told you guys, I went out and finally invested in a really nice mattress for the first time on my line. Yeah, really right. So we slept on it last night. It was
Starting point is 00:36:08 freaking amazing. But we were talking about you know the mattress market and how you have these mattresses that are like and there's no affiliation to any of these companies, but you have mattresses that are like, oh, that's all organic or no synthetic this or whatever, right? And so she's like, why did we choose like a regular really nice bed versus like something like that? And I said, if you actually look, and this is actually a good conversation, if you look at all the factors that affect your health, and I look at like organic materials versus maybe inorganic materials, and I consider, okay, the inorganic materials may put off
Starting point is 00:36:45 a little bit of this chemical or whatever. It talks of chemical residue. Yeah, and it's almost negligible, but it's more than like, let's say a pet that's totally organic. Does that offset the incredible sleep I'm gonna get with a way more, because this is a, they're engineered.
Starting point is 00:36:59 This is an engineered pet that's sleeping really good. I would also make the case or argument that the stuff that you're washing your sheets in has a more of an impact. It does. The mattress. It does. It does. So if you go out and go get yourself a organic avocado bed
Starting point is 00:37:16 or something, then you're washing with fucking tide. Like it's saying- My bed's made of natural rocks. And this is a good conversation because you see a lot of people do this with nutrition. They're like, you know, everything's organic, everything's non-GMO, but you're eating way too much and a lot of it's garbage. You know, calories at the top, right?
Starting point is 00:37:35 If your calories are too high, it could be all the organic, whatever you want, and you're going to have problems. So let's focus on that first. Then let's look at your proteins and fats and then let's look at carbohydrates. And then we could start to go down the checklist. And when it comes to sleep, your quality of sleep has such a massive impact on your health that okay fine you get 0.1% less chemicals from your organic better whatever. But if your sleep is worse, then it doesn't matter because the sleep actually makes a bigger impact.
Starting point is 00:38:06 As long as it's not lined with asbestos, you know, they have any of those firewoods left? I don't know, I probably did the 70s. Yeah, it's all part of that. So, you know, I have the sleep routine now, so I do the Felix Gray glasses before I go to bed and I make sure to, you know, I don't eat within a certain period of time or whatever. This was the last missing piece. Now I got the super nice mattress and I was like, oh you know, I don't eat within a certain period of time or whatever. This was the last missing piece. Now I got the super nice mattress and I was like, oh my God, this is incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I know I feel like an old guy, right? No, yeah, yeah. It was a time for bed. So this weekend we went out, we went out, we went out at the dinner on Friday and I saw Jason ahead of time met up with him before you got there. And I was like, hey, you got to ask,
Starting point is 00:38:42 he actually, I don't think he asked you guys, I was like, guess that's how about his bed. I said, he came up to me, I said, the other day, he's so proud of himself, because he spent a couple of bucks on a bed for the first time. I was like, don't ruin his day and tell him it's not that expensive, because those things do really exist.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He's kind of like a bitch, yeah. I asked him how he feel, and he says, oh my God, it was life-changing. Now you get it, bro, you pay for what you get, especially with something like that, man. I'll tell you what though, I was really disappointed in the chef experience we had. Yeah, so the explains.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You guys are both, is a date thing for cooking. So it was cool to see everybody, that's about it. So we went, so was invited. So we, yeah. I didn't know we were gonna appreciate that. I was just, yeah. We thought about inviting by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So, John and Jen, who are friends of Katrina and I, they put together this dinner night and they, Jason and his wife came, Sal and Jessica and me and Katrina. And you're in this like, we're really excited about it. Like it, like it sounded really cool, right? Everybody goes to this like little private chef area and there's like 16 total people. It's at the we're really excited about it. Like, it sounded really cool, right? Everybody goes to this like, little private chef area and there's like 16 total people. It's at the Sir LaTom.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. And you know, well, it's so everybody was like, pretty excited to go do it. And if I wasn't with the group, I would have left. That's how like, disappointed I was. I was disappointed in the food. I was really disappointed in the chef. Like, terrible personality. Like Jason made the food. I was really disappointed in the chef, like terrible personality.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Like Jason made the night, like you know Jay, right? Like he's great man. Right, he can carry a room and his hilarious and he was cooking right next to the chef. So he was fucking within the whole time. Like that's how Jason is. Like he knows the guy's gonna be like a sour person. He's like entertaining.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, so I'm just gonna have fun with this guy. So he was like poking at on the whole time and making jokes and goofing off and I mean he made the night entertaining and worth being there, but the whole experience and I've had multiple people tell me like, oh my god You're gonna love it. So amazing. It was terrible. No, it wasn't that great. Now we're not literally they get we were supposed to first This was scallops with this like cream sauce or whatever and I swore to God We got like four scallops each. And that was it. Yeah, and then we go to make the risotto.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And then we're gonna make the risotto and it's literally a pound of rice and we're like the ratio here is all. Yes. I can see how you guys make your margins. I can see. Oh bro, what a hustle. I mean, you got 16 people.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I, with 16 people there, I bet we had two pounds of scallops, maybe. Total. Yeah, total for like 16 people there, I bet we had two pounds of scallops, maybe. Total, yeah, total, for like 16 people. And then I don't know, probably a 20 pound bag of risotto. I mean, literally, it was like, that's all what, we threw away a pan like this deep of risotto afterwards because that's all it pretty much was. And then you had a dessert that was a really good dessert,
Starting point is 00:41:22 this pear dessert, but I I mean it maybe cost them there maybe cost them 200 bucks worth of food Maybe and they're charging 89 ahead to be in there So plus we were with it we were in a room because we had it was a class right So it was us and then there was other people in there Yeah, and the other people were boring as hell too. They didn't say a damn word Everybody just following the instruction. But I'm like, listen, are you guys all here to be chefs? We're all here to have a good time and enjoy.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Like why you guys sitting here acting like you're taking notes and like, listen, joy, no. Come on nerds. No, it's just, I'm just, I would've said it. No, no, it was definitely one of those things that I'm sure that none of us, I mean, I want to do the one online where you can do it at your house, right? I've seen people do that where you do like a virtual it at your house, right, I've seen people do that
Starting point is 00:42:05 where you do like a virtual chef at your house. Oh yeah, and we couldn't drink. Well yeah, they advertised it. No, this is the last time I have it. They advertised it as scallops, ricotoni, and... No, no, risotto. Risotto, sorry, scallops, risotto, well, it's supposed to be chocolate cake by the way,
Starting point is 00:42:21 chocolate cake and wine. And wine. So we thought, we all get there, nobody drinks, everybody gets like, oh, this, and then when we find out, it's gonna be dry, as fuck, I was like, be chocolate cake by the way, chocolate cake and wine. And wine. So we thought, we all get there. Nobody drinks, everybody gets like, oh, and then when we find out, it's gonna be dry. As fuck, I was like, that's okay. We till the wine comes, we're just gonna get fucked up. Just have a good time, all of our friends.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And like everyone's like, no, no, no, you can't drink the wine because we don't have a liquor license, but we're using the wine to cook with. Yeah, the wine, you tricked us, you. The wine is so you could cook with it. It's not, you don't get to do it. There's no alcohol, only water. I was so pissed, so it reminded me.'s not you know you don't get to do it. There's no alcohol only water. I was so pissed so it reminded me.
Starting point is 00:42:46 So when I was 17, I'll never forget this. When I was 17 years old, I think I've told this story and well, about this part of the story, but I told you guys that I got my, I got pulled, I had four tickets in a year. And so the third ticket I went to go fight in court so I wouldn't lose my license. I also did the traffic school.
Starting point is 00:43:03 So when I went to the traffic school, it was the first time I ever been traffic school, I'm only lose my license. I also did the traffic school. So when I went to the traffic school, it was the first time I ever been to traffic school, I'm only 17 years old, and my buddy and I both were going together, and he hits me up, he's like, bro, check this out. I found this place. It's pizza, comedy, and traffic school. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like what? Like seriously, this is awesome. Done, and I paid like an extra 30 bucks than like the normal price for traffic school, or what I did, because it was gonna be pizza comedy and fun and we get there was a little Caesar bro It was well. Yeah, they serve pizza at lunch, but the whole pizza comedy and it was a joke It's not like really anything. They just all name them different things and there was no comedy Oh, it was the teacher making oh yeah, I remember asking where's the comedy and he made like some bullshit knock knock joke
Starting point is 00:43:43 It was yeah, it was awful eight hours of sitting in there so pissed I thought hustled like that when we went to this thing you can only cook with the wine like oh my god this is ridiculous anyway all right we got to talk about the all the controversy that's going on right now with Joe Rogan oh man oh boy now I don't know if we said this on the show we might have, but when I know we said this off air, but we distinctly had a discussion where we were talking about Rogan and how, oh, he's going to start getting targeted politically because he doesn't fit in a box. He's got a huge reach, a dangerous to establish. Yes, and that's exactly now what's happening.
Starting point is 00:44:27 What you, if you watch what's happening, there's definitely the Twitter mob, cancel culture thing that happens, but this is not that. This is a coordinated political attack to, and here's the, what do you guys, by the way, I'm gonna ask you guys, what do you think the goal is?
Starting point is 00:44:42 Do you guys think the goal is to get him canceled? Of course. Yeah. I mean, at the bare minimum,'m gonna ask you guys, what do you think the goal is? Do you guys think the goal is to get him canceled? Of course. Yeah. I'll do that. I mean, at the bare minimum, discredit the stuff that he's putting out. That's what they're trying to do. Yeah, they want to, I mean, it's a power grab.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It's to show, it's to flex and show that ultimately, we have the last say. I don't think it's to cancel them. If that happened, that's cool, but I don't think that's the goal because, in fact, rumble just came out and offered him 100 million for four years. Now that's going viral, and I's cool, but I don't think that's the goal because in fact, uh, rumble just came out and offered him 100 million for four years. Now that's going viral. And I'm like, I mean, I don't know, does that even warn a conversation that ain't happening? That can't happen. That that'll happen if, you know, he's in a contract
Starting point is 00:45:14 with Spotify, but if Spotify kicks him off, so that's the only way to Spotify so far supporting him. Yeah, Spotify's already came out as a CEO did a statement yesterday. So the CEO came out by the way, it's not stopping. We'll see how they handle the pressure because this is not, this is not stopping. Well, so now what's interesting to me, here's what I always, when it comes down to money, okay? And here's what's interesting,
Starting point is 00:45:33 since Spotify has signed Joe, they went from 60 to 60 billion down to 30 billion. Yeah. When that Neil Young debacle happened, they lost four billion dollars. Wow. How is that possible? Isn't that4 billion. How was that possible? Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:45:46 Because I know there's a few artists that wasn't just Neil Young that dropped off. It was like some kind of snowball. Hold on, is this $4 billion in market share? So I don't know how that- I think that's what it is. I don't know. But they went from $60 billion
Starting point is 00:45:59 in terms of shareholders. Down to $30 billion. Just their stock price. And then they lost $4 billion after the- Oh, it's their stock price. Yeah yeah their stock price now is at a one seventy one which is kind of a low just giving example back in November it got as high as three hundred yeah I bought it at the two hundred yeah so I think it's my bad no I so so he's I don't think it's to cancel them I think they know they
Starting point is 00:46:20 can't necessarily cancel them because yes it's a massive following the show how can I try though. Well, is it this strange? Like they bought gimmel media and somebody else for like way more money than they acquired Joe for? Like it's not that bad. Well gimmel media has got a bunch of things underneath right? Right.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah, so like they bought networks, but there was a couple other like shows that they paid substantial not more. I was surprised by that. No, the goal is not to get a cancel. The goal is to delegitimize him completely. If they can, because he has, his platform has so much. I mean, isn't the same, I mean, you're saying that, but isn't the same strategy.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I think that strategy different, because they know that he's not gonna get canceled. I know, but that was, how is the strategy different? What would you do differently if you were trying to cancel them? What would you, what would you be trying to do differently? Yeah, so you're saying, you're saying, you're doing a statement that they're not trying to cancel. Oh, what I just discredited differently? Yeah, so you're saying, you're saying you're doing a statement that they're not trying to cancel themselves.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Oh, what I just discredited him and what I'm saying is the same thing because what would they do different if they were trying to cancel? My point is, I don't think it would be anything to it. My point is I think that they're sitting back and they're saying, we can't cancel them. He's too big, he's got too big of an audience.
Starting point is 00:47:21 If we get him kicked off Spotify, someone else is gonna pick him up. I think that the whole plan was, we need to delegitimize him as much as possible. He's gonna keep attacking his character like from every angle. Yes, to the point where he's like Alex Jones. Now, if you are, if you ever go on Joe Rogan,
Starting point is 00:47:36 you're a fraud or why would you go on a show? I mean, so at what point? So is your theory that it's never gonna stop? It's just gonna keep happening. Cause once they go through like like after they make them look sexist, racist, you know, conspiracy, conspiracy guy, transphobic, I mean, once they go down the gauntlet of things and put together all these clips and cherry pick stuff
Starting point is 00:47:57 to make them seem even worse, what happens after that? What does it cancel? What does it cancel? So they started out with COVID misinformation. That was the big one that didn't really stick. And then it moved on to sexism and now it's moved to racism. It first started happening when he moved to Texas, started talking about why he moved to Texas,
Starting point is 00:48:14 why California's whatever. He started to not sound like they wanted him to. COVID, the COVID stuff really pushed their buttons. And again, they're trying to delegitimize him. And here's what will happen. All, by the way, some of these, these organizations, or some of the organization behind what's happening has been linked to a democratic super PAC.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I think that these midterms are coming up. This is the pressure. This is where they're gonna be all over them. When midterms are over, they're gonna leave them alone until it's ready to do it again. He poses a threat and they want to delegitimize him so he no longer poses a threat. So you think it's 100% politically motivated? 100%
Starting point is 00:48:54 Nobody gives a shit that he said the N word a bunch of times on his podcast. On old shows. Sure you do. If you're a Twitter. I mean, it is a few of my friends, but yeah. No, no, no, no, what I mean is Twitter mob guys, I mean, sure it. No, what I mean is the people who put that together don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't care. That's just their, that's just their, their favorite card to pull. This is a very powerful political. They've weaponized. Well, you've seen that happen to other people, like celebrities as examples of, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:22 taking things out of context. Nobody is slicing, nobody is saying. Nobody's saying, everything is recorded, everything you say, everything you do, context changes, what's acceptable one minute, changes what's acceptable another time, and it's, nobody's saying, the rock, Dwayne Johnson came out and defended him,
Starting point is 00:49:39 but then he apologized, which now he's a target for other people. Okay, so. And they found videos of him doing. My question is this then, too. Do you think so? Like we've seen this from, you know, the left's perspective, but from the right perspective, do you see, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:54 the right coming in hard now with like going after the mud slinging the dirt and like splicing clips together to throw. They're just as guilty. What we just saw clip on the CNN and like, they did this, they did it. They did it. They came out with their hosts, you know, in sexual misconduct.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah. The right did it with a chama. That's right. I pray for you. That's exactly what I was trying to get to. Yeah. They did it too. They took the statement at a context and it's just,
Starting point is 00:50:18 like it's going to get insane. This cancel cancel like mud slinging. This can be safe. It's going to self-destruct. Yeah. That's right. I think it's going to's gonna self-destruct. Yeah, that's right. I think it's gonna blow up in all their face. I think it's gonna come to a point where people don't care anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It's like gonna become white noise, dude. It's like, you're calling racist sexist. You're calling that out so much. Both left and right, and everybody's pointing fingers. Nobody is safe. If you're older than 35 years old, your thoughts, yeah. And if you've been in media, right?
Starting point is 00:50:44 So if you've been on any social platform or on television or people have been paying attention to you for any longer than the last five years or more and you're older than 35, you're fucked. Yeah. You for sure have said something that's inappropriate or tech something that isn't right. Like it's like, oh my, it's so,
Starting point is 00:51:02 and I think after enough, you know what, maybe after enough of these people that we hold up on pedestal, maybe after enough of them fall from grace, maybe then what everybody be like, well fuck Jesus, that's my favorite guy, that's my favorite girl, and they're racist, they're sexes, and they're sexes. Well, make my scene cuts of Biden saying worse.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Oh, in Congress. I can't believe he gets a pass. And well, it's selective outrage, bro. But that's the thing, it's like, you gotta look at it, like the hypocrisy. It well, it's selective outrage. But that's the thing. It's like, you got to look at it, like the hypocrisy of it all. It's like, of course. It's politics is not logic.
Starting point is 00:51:31 It's about how you can manipulate people to feel a particular way for a period of time. Because the goal is to delegitimate. It's a strategy. Yeah, but here's the thing though. He's not really getting away with it either because the fact that you know about it is because people on the right have been pushing that agenda. Right. So it though, he's not really getting away with it either because the fact that you know about it It's because people on the right have been pushing that agenda right so it's yeah, I mean so you can make the same case that Trump got away with it
Starting point is 00:51:51 To but then the people on the left were Picking apart all this stuff, so okay, so both sides are doing this. Yeah, right. Here's the goal. Okay. Here's the idea It was ramping up is here's the idea You know how they have when they have an election. There's always there's what's known as the October is it the October surprise? I think it's the October surprise. That's what you told me. Yeah and it's always like something that they'll drop in October because they know it sticks long enough till the election happens because here's what happens. Ship blows over. So they'll do something to hammer a politician but if they do it too early it loses its power
Starting point is 00:52:22 and you see this bounce up. So they're gonna hammer Rogan and they're gonna keep hammering him until the midterms happen. After that, he's gonna be, they're not gonna worry about him too much. Unless he makes a lot of noise, they're not gonna worry too much about him. Now, the interesting thing is,
Starting point is 00:52:35 they might just have, and I don't know, we'll see what they pull up because they can be very cunning and dirty, but they might just have bit off more than they can chew because what, there's a lot of people supporting Rogan, a lot of people. And it might just backfire to the point where it makes him more interesting because it was at Dave Portnoy, the bar still, he was tracing back to see who was mainly responsible for cutting up these videos and kind of pushing that out there.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And I think like he's confident he found like the three guys that were watching him. Well, yeah, because they came after him too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He traced it back to the same people that were basically coming after him and it's it sounds like it's a group of people that are doing it. Speaking of dirty stuff, did you guys see what GoFundMe did with the all the money raised? So, if you try to happen, they got up to a ridiculous amount of money. 10 million make me angry. Over that, I heard it was like 12. They got a ton of money, go fund me, froze it,
Starting point is 00:53:29 and then wouldn't give them money. And initially said, we can't verify it's going to write people, so we're gonna give it to other charities, which everybody's like, excuse me. And then they said, never mind, we're gonna refund people. Like, you wanna talk about some insanity there. Like, prime, that's like prime meat for conspiracy theorists.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Oh, it's terrible. You can't, yeah, you can't reallocate somebody's money that they spent, you know, to go to a very specific place. Why is it supposed to go to? Does anyone have the answer? The truckers, they were like, yeah, but that's so vague, bro. Well, that would, that would make their point fair. No, I think that's not the point.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Okay, the point is that they did not do this. Okay, when the BLM thing was happening, nobody knew what the hell's going on. Nobody knew, and we know now, a lot of money went to a lot of bad places. Yeah, but BLM has a actual organization that you can do. They have an organization. The truckers do. Yes, they do.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Okay, so was it connected to that go fund me? Yeah, that's a lot. That was the question I was asking, an answer. Yeah, but they now are like, we're refunding people. That's what it was. But that was the question I was asking. Yeah, an answer. Yeah, but they, but they now are like we're refunding people. It's very interesting and strange. And I know, I mean, the conspiracy is like that there, because they're anti mandate, because politically this does not look very good for Justin Trudeau and some of their leaders.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I heard it's like one of the largest protests we've ever seen before. Yeah, dude, hiding the whole time, not even like dressing what was happening in this country. Yeah, huge, but that's crazy. I can't believe that they did that. I hope they have a really good reason because that's a massive lawsuit. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Are you guys familiar with, since we're talking about crazy shit? Are you guys familiar with what it's called an NFT rug pull? Oh, what? Yeah, rug pull. Crazy. Yeah, you know me going down like the NFT or what? What? Okay, I'm sorry, you know me going down like the NFD.
Starting point is 00:55:05 You're out of what? What? Ever since I started talking about NFTs and there's, yeah, I don't know if you guys have experienced this because I know you don't talk about as much as I do or post about it, but it's like my new favorite thing to like fucking piss off, like a community of people that like if you're like part of that community, like you're hard to about it, like you're like,
Starting point is 00:55:23 you're wrapped up in a mess. Yes, you were, like Jimmy, what's in the fall in, and like Paris Hilton showing their like ape. Yes. And I was just like, oh God, you know, like that's total. I'm like, I'm out. I'm not even interested in the NFT thing. So I was listening to this interview. Remember that guy, I think, I wanna say Jake Tran,
Starting point is 00:55:42 I think his name I might introduce guys. He did an interview on this kid that was breaking down these NFT rug pulls. And he says, if you're good, you can do two of these a month so every two weeks, or these people, they'll buy like an NFT that's well known and really expensive. So they're investing like a quarter million sometimes. So $100,000 on like this image, so people know like,
Starting point is 00:56:03 oh shit, this person has got clout or they got money. And because all this NFT stuff is on blockchain and you can use it as an image, you protect the people. And they're all, everyone's okay with that, because that's one of the best parts about it is that you don't know who everyone is. Well, the problem with that is you've got these NFT rug pulls that are happening where these people
Starting point is 00:56:23 will buy like an expensive entity, they'll put that as a profile, the build Twitter, they'll build a Discord, they'll build all stuff like that. They'll copy like a trending, let's say board a yacht club or whatever board yacht, I don't know if I'm saying that right, you guys know what I mean, right? That like their whole like blueprint
Starting point is 00:56:38 on how they're making money and they'll basically copy and paste like a similar like formula of what we're gonna do What we're gonna give our people hype up the discord get in there and get in the community and tell them what's come in and Release a bunch of this shit and they make fucking 10 15 million real quick and then boop just delete to disappear It's like and then fire up another one fucking Tugas later. It's like a stock pump and Throw yes, that's like a pump and dump. Yes. And it's getting real popular for people to do this.
Starting point is 00:57:06 It's not regulated. It's like in the trading world. Yeah, I did know that was coming. In the trading world, this is old school. You would buy shitty worthless stock and then you would pump it up to a bunch of people drive the shares up and then sell your bit, make your money. Now, the thing that's crazy though,
Starting point is 00:57:22 and where it's different than pump and a pump, it's a lot easier to get tracked. The people that are involved that were doing that, where this is all protected on the blockchain. So these people go in, create this whole thing on the blockchain, and they walk away with all this money, ain't nobody do nothing about it. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Did you hear North Korea has these hackers or whatever that apparently have hacked and stole a bunch of crypto money to fund their like nuclear program out of your list. No. Yeah. Apparently they're, I gotta read this. So they can hack now and well, bro, they've proven that already. Yeah, it's not the problem, man. It's not the blockchain. It's like the wallets and stuff. Yeah, right. That's the thing that does, no, didn't said. That was why he, he he came out made that statement about why he's like,
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm worried about the whole. Yeah, until the wallets are as safe as the actual crypto currency that it doesn't make any sense. Right here. Nor this is this is a UN report. Missile program funded through stolen crypto. So so the North Korean cyber attacks have stolen millions of dollars worth of cryptocurrency to fund the country's missile programs. So, you know, people who say you can't steal it, the weak link is not the blockchain, but rather the way people store their crypto and stuff. And apparently this is from the UN, North Korean hackers did this to fund their missiles. So, I know, this whole thing is interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It's a skittin' crazy experience. I'm wondering where it's gonna be in just like five years from now. Like, is it gonna, I mean, are we gonna see this massive correction and we're gonna see a lot of this stuff for it Is in a correction crypto's already gone down quite a bit But I think you're gonna see a I think you're gonna there's value to it But it's so bubbly and frothy and and full of it'll stick I don't just be like Technology's brilliant. I mean, I don't know where you guys are at. So I pay attention to all of this.
Starting point is 00:59:05 The way it's gonna be for cars, a lot. I mean, that's gonna be a very. It's gonna be a show. Yeah, it's gonna be a very powerful tool in the future. It will be how we do things. I mean, it's a very nice way to protect yourself when you buy something of great value. You now have like somebody else
Starting point is 00:59:20 try and steal it, resell it or fix it or work on it. Like that'll come up right away. That's not, it's somebody else's. It'll be easy to trace and track. So there's tremendous value in this technology. It ain't going away. I 100% stand by it. But boys are gonna be a lot of scams on the way.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So I'm saying, and it ends right now. That'll weave through. Yeah, the dot-com bus was like that, right? It's like, oh my god, the internet's gonna change the world. And it did. But you had so much hype or an excitement. And again, that frothiness around it, that any dot-com anything was valued so much,
Starting point is 00:59:49 and then you had a crash, which washed out a ton of these companies. So I think it'll be something similar, in my opinion. Hey, real quick, look, if you like soda, but take the sugar and the calories, go try OliPop. Now, OliPop, nothing artificial. So everything in there is real. It's very low calorie, I believe they have 30 calories per can.
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Starting point is 01:00:26 So if you're interested, head over to mindpumppartners.com, click on all the pop and then the code for the discount is mind pump. Go check them out. All right, here comes the rest of the show. Our first caller is Cara from Colorado. Cara, what's happening? How can we help you?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Hey, Sal. Hey guys. Before I get going, I just wanted to say, um, so I was a trainer from 2012's 2015 and I love the industry. I did some things to shows at the time and I just didn't see an out. So I kind of stopped everything qualified for nationals in bikini and stopped from there. Did my own thing for five years or so. said enough is enough I went back to my coaching business and in November I started training again probably because of
Starting point is 01:01:11 you guys because I heard I found your podcast maybe in April and I just want to thank you for giving language to all the bullshit in the fitness industry. Yeah yeah I just really resonate to what you all say more than anyone else. And I'm just so appreciative. So I just want to say thank you so much for everything that you do. Yeah, thank you for those words. Thanks. Cool. So yeah, my question that I asked was, I heard you Sal talk about chrysan and colean in episode pretty early on, an earlier episode. And I was just wondering, so I got some cold lean, and it's really been helping with my brain fog as I'm coming off of having COVID.
Starting point is 01:01:52 So I'm wondering if there's a way to go about looking up Neutropics, and I don't really know much about Neutropics drugs, but I like supplements, I like playing around with supplements, and I'm just interested in holistic health. And yeah. Cool. No, it's good question.
Starting point is 01:02:09 So Pericetam is a drug from the race-at-tem categories of drugs. So it's actually a synthetic product. It's a prescription in some countries. But here in the US, it's like a gray market. So it's not really regulated. you could buy it over the counter. And it's loosely, I guess, categorized as a new tropic. So in some studies, it's been shown to improve things like verbal fluency in people who have noticed declining verbal fluency or memory recall in people with, you know, who have like early stages of maybe dimensions, stuff like that. So a lot of people have messed around with these substances to see if it's done anything
Starting point is 01:02:50 for them. I'm one of those people. I've messed right, you know, I make no, it's not a mystery that I like to mess around with compounds and supplements and stuff to kind of see what happens. Now here's a deal with Perseptamus, my personal experience, and then also the experience I've had, you know, having other people try it. For me, it's got a bit of a racy feel.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I notice maybe an improvement in some things, but I also notice that I crash when it kind of wears off and don't feel so good. So this is why I've never really used. And I've tried lots of the racetem molecules. There's anoracetam. There's lots of different, you know, oxo racetem molecules. There's anoracea-tam, there's lots of different, you know, oxo racetem, I believe is another one. There's lots of different types,
Starting point is 01:03:28 and they're all supposed to be a little different. I wasn't really a huge fan. I gave some to Adam, Justin, and Doug for fun, just to see what would happen. And they all had headaches and didn't feel good from them at all. Colleen is a natural compound, probably should be labeled essential.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's not currently labeled essential, but I think it probably should be. You find it in certain foods like egg yolks. And if it's low, supplementing with it can help with kind of cognitive performance. So colin's pretty good. Caffeine can help some people if they're fatigued. But I will say this, when it comes to substances and supplements to help with, I guess, mental
Starting point is 01:04:11 acuity or to help with brain fog, they pale in comparison to, and I know it's not like a broken record, they pale in comparison to things like diet, exercise, stress, management and sleep. They're really poor substitutes. Like, if you have poor sleep, caffeine can help, but it doesn't do at all what good sleep would do for all of those things. And so, you know, keep that in mind, but as far as the race attempt drugs are concerned,
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm not really a big fan. That's why I talked about them once, and then I really haven't really brought them up, except for maybe to talk about kind of that gray market part of the supplement industry that I think is interesting but I don't think that they're really great for what people say they're for. So what do you think,
Starting point is 01:04:53 because I didn't have a good experience with these at all, what are some recommendations though that you would give for like natural new tropics or are those considered a new tropics because they're natural? Are you in the same? Yeah, what are some natural neutropics, or are those considered a neutropics because they're natural genes? Yeah, what are some natural substances that she could take instead of that, if you wanna try? You know, the thing with the word neutropic,
Starting point is 01:05:16 if you look up what it's supposed to mean, it literally means a substance that upon taking will improve cognitive performance. Now, technically, like I mentioned caffeine, technically caffeine is not a neutropic. However, the reason why I put caffeine in that category is if you're fatigued, your mental performance will drop. Taking caffeine does improve mental performance in that particular context. So that's why I like to put that there.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Some people would put drugs like Adderall or Ritalin in that category. However, there's interesting studies that show that they don't really improve cognitive performance. They just make people more interested in the boring shit that they don't want to be interested in. And so that makes people feel like they're smarter when they take on. Now exogenous ketones, would that be a classification of neutropic? Because I know it does help, you know, my clarity in terms of my sharpness of
Starting point is 01:06:12 a memory recall. You know it's weird about that. So going into ketosis for some people makes a big difference. I would imagine it's probably people who either A have issues with blood sugar or insulin, like Alzheimer's is type 3 diabetes, some people will call it, or you're eliminating lots of food intolerances. So you feel less inflamed, less bloated, a little bit sharper from doing so. You can experiment with that, Cara, you can go on a ketogenic diet. Just make sure you get adequate sodium.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I want to say that a lot of people go to ketogenic, feel like garbage, and think they call it the keto flu. Oh my God, I feel... Typically, when you go on a ketogenic diet, you drop carbohydrates. You're going to lose a lot of water, and when you lose a lot of water, you need a lot more sodium.
Starting point is 01:07:00 We work with a company called Elemente. It's a great product if you want to drink something that tastes good with salt. Otherwise, salt the shit out of your food, add a little salt to your water. That usually makes up the difference. But also, you go and ketogenic diet, you can expect some performance drops in strength. So if you, so it's a bit of a trade off,
Starting point is 01:07:17 like you're not gonna be as strong and I have much stamina and endurance, but you may feel sharper doing something like that. Fasting can do that really quick. Like if you did a 24 hour fast, you may notice, oh my God, I feel sharper. What is it in the organified pure that makes me feel that way? So products like that are more like,
Starting point is 01:07:34 you're looking at, I'm glad you said that because I was gonna go there and I totally forgot. There are compounds that help with brain health. So like Lyons main, for example, is one of those things. So if you took Lyons main, you might not know, you're probably not gonna notice anything until you take it for two or three weeks, right? And then, and then what they'll show
Starting point is 01:07:50 is it's improving brain health a little bit over time. Things that help with your gut. So, like, organifies purers, got certain compounds that'll do that. So, I want to take it. I suggest the enzymes in there too. A little bit, yeah, so that's why when you take it over time, you start to kind of notice, like,
Starting point is 01:08:04 oh, I feel, you know, I feel kind of good. What I like about it, it's more natural ingredients in terms of what they use. So for me, it didn't have that. I don't know if it's because of the artificial blend that you get from the race of temps, but that's really, like, gave me a headache. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 So I don't get a headache from this, and it does over time, it really does help with your memory and your recall. It does. It's just one of those, you know don't know. I don't get a headache from this and it does over time. It really does help with your memory. It could be cool. It does. It's just one of those, you know what it is. Okay, if you take something, this is a general rule.
Starting point is 01:08:31 If you take something that you feel right away, you can almost always bet that you're gonna get this adaptation response in the body and the brain where it starts to down-regulate receptors and change its own production of certain chemicals. And so then over time, it stops to be as effective. And then when you go off of them, there's this kind of rebound effect
Starting point is 01:08:50 where you feel kind of crappy for a week or two. And it just, again, it doesn't, it doesn't substitute lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination. Now for someone with COVID brain fog, this one's a really interesting one. I personally, now I'm not gonna recommend this, I'm not a doctor, but what I would do care if I was you,
Starting point is 01:09:12 is I would see if going on a ketogenic diet for a week or two makes a big difference. I have a hunch that the anti-inflammatory effects of the ketogenic diet would have a positive effect on somebody like you. But you have to experiment with it and see, how you feel. I hope that helps you out. There's really nothing out there
Starting point is 01:09:34 that's gonna make a huge difference aside from your things that might help improve brain health in conjunction with good diet, exercise, and sleep. Care, have you tried the Organifiperia? I haven't now. Give that a try. I mean, Justin and I both love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And I had a bad experience with Erased In, so. Yeah. How's your sleep, by the way? Sleep is pretty good. Yeah. I've been really toned in since I like quit my day job and just working for myself. So it's been awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Just off of COVID, I just noticed like brain fog and like a significant increase with the cold lean. So I'm just wondering from there, I'm like, oh, this stuff is great. How long ago did you get over COVID? Maybe like two weeks ago. Okay, you know, here's some good news. That brain fog typically lasts maybe a month or two at the most I know Adam felt fatigued for like what was like six weeks or so after
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yeah, I'd say about six weeks and then you didn't kind of got better after that. Yeah, my wife the same thing so You know, there's very very small percentage of people from what I've read where it lasts really long It's usually from what I've read and people I know, it's like a month or two afterwards at most. Cool. That makes a lot of sense. Okay. Does that help?
Starting point is 01:10:52 I hope that helps. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's interesting. Percentam, percentam sounds like cratum in a way. It's not at all. Cratum is like, I love cratum. It's nothing like that for sure. No. No, but hold on,
Starting point is 01:11:06 cratum, you will have, cratum does have addictive properties and you will have withdrawal if you take it regularly and then go off. Cratum, that feeling that you would get from cratum is the same thing that you get from like an opiate, right? So it pairs with the opiate receptor. Yeah. You get that feeling of like happy and joy. Yeah. So it's less to do with like the mental clarity and more of that. Like mood. Yeah. Yeah. It always puts me in a good mood. Yeah. But I, when I, when I talk to people about creative, I'm afraid I'm not afraid. I'm very cautious. Talk about it on the show because of the withdrawal. People can, oh, it's very addictive. Well, you know, I find myself, you know, starting off
Starting point is 01:11:39 with like six of those 500 milligram pills and then quickly to eight and quickly to 10, then 12. So, you quickly move up, the body adapts to it and then you feel like you got to take more just to keep up with it. I also have shared in the past about, you know, I battled with opiate addiction in the past, so it's something that is, I'm very aware of. It's like the lesser of an evil, right? Yeah, yeah, way, way, the withdrawal is bad, but nothing like an opiate. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:12:04 But it could get there Though I know people that keep scaling up before you know it you're taking 30 or 40 those things and then I had to give it up. I was like no, this doesn't work in You sound a lot like me Cara. I understand the feelings. It's a good time, but you got to be careful Exactly. Yeah, cool. Awesome. Thanks for calling in. Thank you so much. I'll call. Yeah, I, I, I, boy, identify a little bit with what you're saying. You know, you, you look for things to that, you either can change your state of mind or help with certain, you know, challenges you have. And in some ways, they can become a little valuable. But like when it comes to like improving your mental clarity, like, man,
Starting point is 01:12:49 if I get a good night of sleep, there isn't a thing that I've ever tried or stacked that I've ever tried, it even comes close to just everything hands down. Yeah. Nothing comes close to something like that. I think that and actually just being fasted going this so I thought I always feel that one. I'm going to that's the one. So I hate working out fasted, but I love the podcast, or do something where I need to be short.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Totally. I notice a huge difference when I'm just not fed. It's wild. Yeah, I know, when we're gonna go in and do a big interview or something, I really need to, I want to be sharp. I'll fast, yeah. Cause it does make a difference for me,
Starting point is 01:13:20 but working out performance-wise at totally different. Our next caller is Chris from Minnesota. Chris, what's happening? How can we help you? How's it going guys? Good. All right. First off, I have to do the obligatory thank you for the content you produce.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I really like that you guys make the health and fitness space entertaining to listen to on a daily basis. Thank you. Awesome. That's all Thank you. Awesome. That's all dressed in. No. Please. My question is about retaining consistency.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I'm getting back into lifting and fitness after about a year long break and I'm starting into maps in a ball. I've learned that I'm a very routine driven person and when I struggle to maintain consistency, it's usually because my weekly routine gets thrown off for one reason or another. So in the past month, I've returned a listening to MindPom on a regular basis, and that's really helped me. So the actual question I have is, what other hacks and daily routines have you guys found
Starting point is 01:14:23 to help yourselves or past clients make health and fitness a part of their daily life? Did you, Chris, did you listen to the, I did an episode, or it was a Q, I don't know if it was Q-N-Air or an episode that we did, and I talked about the weekend hack. Did you hear me talk about that yet? Was that with Jason Phillips?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Oh, it might have been with Jason. Was it recent? Yeah, I think so. It was a recent episode. It might have been with Jason. Was it recent? Yeah, I think so. It was a recent episode. It might have been with Jason, I can't remember. But basically what I was talking about was making your, like, win the weekend and then the week sends the follow, right? So in the past, I used to train really hard and consistent.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Monday through Friday, I was the most dialed on my diet, didn't miss my routine. Because my whole routine was there. I'd work schedule where I got to work at the same time and left work at the same time. And because I had scheduled clients all day long, I had to be very regiment about what time I ate. And so it was really easy for me to stay tight
Starting point is 01:15:17 Monday through Friday. And then Saturday or Sunday would be, oh, you know, I sleep in, I'm tired. And then maybe I'll watch a little football on Sundays. Hey, if I'm gonna enjoy off the diet. And maybe that's when I'll have my pizza, you know, I sleep in, I'm tired, and then maybe I'll watch a little football on Sundays. Hey, if I'm going to enjoy off the diet, and maybe that's when I'll have my pizza, you know, so what I found was many of these weekends, I would easily have one or two days that actually would kind of cancel all the good work that I did in the previous week because I was moving so little, sometimes not training, and then also if I were to over consume,
Starting point is 01:15:45 it would be on those days. And so I had switched this mindset up about, I don't know, seven years ago or so maybe longer, where I said, okay, I'm not gonna put a lot of pressure on myself throughout the week. I know I'm gonna have some days off or I miss workouts or maybe I you know, eat off the meal plan, but I'm gonna win Saturday and Sunday. Saturday and Sunday, that's gonna become my day where I'm more tight around the diet, and then if I want to cut loose during the week, I will.
Starting point is 01:16:12 And what I found was it sets the tone for the week, and because it's easier for me to be consistent during the week, even though I gave myself the flexibility to go off the plan or stop or take a day off, I wanted to stay consistent and just, you know, winning the weekends was a huge hack for me. So I don't know if that's something that you've implemented or tried,
Starting point is 01:16:33 but anybody that I've taught that to sees a big difference in their consistency. Yeah, you know, Chris, I'm gonna comment a little bit on your question because I don't think people realize just how important this question that you're asking is, of all of the, for the average person, of all the factors that they need to consider
Starting point is 01:16:51 when it comes to their workout routine, the most important factor is how can I organize things or do things in a way that will lead to consistency because a bad workout, I mean, of course, if it doesn't hurt, you know, all that stuff, but a workout that's not that effective, done consistently is more effective than a super effective workout that's done consistently. It's the most important thing for the average person. If I had to look at everything I'd say just be consistent number one then let's look at
Starting point is 01:17:18 kind of everything else. It's like the biggest rock okay. Here's the single the single most effective thing I've ever seen help someone with consistency. And this is only if this particular thing works for the person. But if it does, it works better than anything else. And I'll give you a little bit of a background. You know, when I manage jams and I manage to work in jams for a very long time, when you do that for a while, you notice trends in your facility. So, you know, you work in these big box jams, you see crowds of people coming in at different times, you start to notice trends when it's busy,
Starting point is 01:17:50 when it's not busy, certain months are busier than other months, who's more consistent versus who's less consistent. And there is no group more consistent in the gym than the morning group, okay, the 6am, the 5, 6 and 7am crew, the 6am, the 5, 6, and 7am crew, whatever you want to label them, is by far the most consistent member base that you'll find in your gym.
Starting point is 01:18:11 The evening people, super transient, you'll have a small group that'll always show up at night, but it's like the most transient is after work, by far, the middle of the day, you know, maybe not as transient, but not nearly as consistent. It's the early morning crew that you go to the gym when I would go in at 6, 7 a.m. It was always the same people and it was like that for years.
Starting point is 01:18:30 It was the same people all the time, by far. Now, this is for me too. Now, I don't like working out first thing in the morning. If I'm comparing it to other times in terms of performance and strength and endurance and all that stuff, but the reason why I work out in the morning is there's no better thing I've ever done for consistency.
Starting point is 01:18:48 If I start my day with my workout, I'm gonna work out. If I end my day with my workout or interrupt my day with my workout, all kinds of stuff can get in the way. Even if you're fanatical, it just becomes a big pain in the butt. Work goes a little longer than you thought. Uh-oh, this popped up.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Gotta pick up the kids. I'm tired, whatever. But if it's the first thing I do when I wake up, it's the first thing that I do, and I'm the most consistent ever when I do that. So if it works for you, because this isn't work for everybody, but if it works for you, start your day with your workouts, and if that's what you always do, there, like I said, there's nothing I've ever seen to improve consistency, no single thing I've ever done to improve consistency better than that. Yeah, I just wanted to add, I guess,
Starting point is 01:19:31 to in terms of things that I try to figure out initially with clients, what's going to benefit them the most in terms of them coming back, having consistency, but also what's going to move the needle a bit more That's really not invasive. So like if I'm looking at it in terms of lifestyle like Adam's talking about winning the weekend You know, I'm looking at certain things that will improve their posture improve their mood improve their energy All these things that we can ritualize. So one thing I had clients do was Something they'd normally do like take a shower in the morning. They do a wall press in the shower Or they do it after they're done. They do something very simple that like covers a lot of the bases of the upper body
Starting point is 01:20:12 And it sets your shoulders right, so your neck sets everything in the upper body right posturally And then the other one was like a 90 90 maybe that I'd have them do before they sit down To to relax they do that first thing and watch TV or do something like that. And then, you know, if they're eating, if try to walk after they eat their meals, something like that where it's like, it's very actionable and it's something that they can keep doing that doesn't really require a lot of effort or thought, which then builds momentum and builds going into then meeting and seeing me for the workouts. Chris, I have another hack that's more recent for me now, right?
Starting point is 01:20:54 So I used to be an all or nothing type of guy when it comes to workout and diet. And either I'm dialed in and consistent and crushing the gym or I'm super inconsistent and something that's changed in the last probably five or six years that I'm really good about doing now that I would have never done in my 20s, which is be okay sometimes with maybe that this workout today is just squats or just Turkish get ups. And because sometimes I'll be sitting at home and it'll be like the weekend and I know I told myself I'm going to get a lift in and I'm just like, man, I am not feeling like a 50 minute hard training session of gym.
Starting point is 01:21:30 And so I'll play this game where I'm like talking myself out of it and then I end up not doing it. Whereas now I kind of give myself this flexibility that you know what, I don't need to go to get 50 minutes and let's just go get four sets of squats out of them. I can go get four sets of squats. That doesn't take very much time. And what I find, one, doing something like squatting, deadlifting, Turkish get-ups, overhead pressing, there's such big, good, gross motor movements that they have so much carryover and so much benefit
Starting point is 01:21:55 just from doing them, that it's okay sometimes for me just to have a workout where that's all I do. But what actually ends up happening more often than not is I go in with that attitude that I've accepted that maybe I'll just do four sets of squats. And then once I get it going, I feel good. And then I end up wanting to finish the workout. But a lot of it is the mental game of accepting that, hey, you know what, I don't have to do a full 50 minute workout. Maybe I'll just go in and do four sets of this movement that I know so valuable and allowing
Starting point is 01:22:21 myself that freedom to be able to just do that sometimes. And again, what I find is I end up doing more or finishing the workout. And even if I didn't, I still got a great four or five sets and a squat, which like I said, has tremendous benefit to it. Chris, do you have maps primed by any chance? I do. Yeah, that's been a real help. Awesome, because the stuff that Justin was talking about, obviously, is in the compass test.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I just wanted to make sure you had that. So you knew how to do the wall press and what he was referring to. So I hope that all helped you out. Yeah, it does. I really, the morning thing you mentioned is probably the biggest thing. It also helps in developing a fluipertine too,
Starting point is 01:23:03 which is something I struggle with as well. So, there's probably more benefits than just being consistent at the gym. Yeah, cool. Well, thanks for calling in. I really appreciate it, guys. Yeah, thanks Chris. I remember managing like when I first, I don't want to say, I was even before I became a manager.
Starting point is 01:23:21 This is when I was like, you know, a weekend manager or whatever. And I would go in, hell of early, because I was super competitive, I didn't have kids and I wasn't married little in my parent's house. I could just go, be there as long as I want. And I would show up at 5 a.m., 6 a.m., right? And I would do it. And I remember, like, I remember, it took like a, maybe a couple months.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And I remember thinking, it's the same 30 people every time I come in at 5 a.m. Every time I come in at 6 a.m. And the rest of the time in the gym, it was always, you'd see your regulars, but it was always like this changing crowd, right? Cause we were in big box gyms. And I remember thinking to myself,
Starting point is 01:23:58 like, who the hell wants to work out at 5 a.m. or 6 a.m. This is ridiculous. And then of course, as you get older, you have kids, you have stuff that, and it's like, okay. Yeah, you can't interrupt it that way. It just makes perfect sense. And the only problem is the challenges, is the whole, okay, I gotta wake up early.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I gotta do that. And then I gotta go to bed on time. That never felt as strong that early in the morning. Yeah, totally. And so yeah, you have to kind of work your way through that. But I agree, it is probably the best strategy in terms of being able to repeat that because nothing's gonna like come in the way of your workouts typically. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:33 And I do want to say, you know, kind of reiterate this, that of all the factors that you have to consider, and they're all important, what kind of workout I do, intensity, sets, wraps, extras, I guess that's all very important. We spend a lot of time talking about that. But if people just figured out the consistency piece for themselves, they would be 80% of the way there, you know? Yeah, I think, I mean, there's no doubt
Starting point is 01:24:55 that the 5am crew is always the most consistent in every gym. But a lot for me has been having empathy for myself when it comes to like, I have to get this routine. Much of my drive in the gym was, you know, all about this look that I was always trying to achieve. And it just wasn't worth it if you weren't all. That's right. And so I had this pressure of like, if I'm not making gains in, you know, muscle size
Starting point is 01:25:20 or we reduce some body fat, I'm losing, or I'm not progressing. I'm not moving in the right direction. And so I had a lot of that attitude when I looked at my lifestyle and as I've gotten older I realized like the real reason why I'm doing this is to be able to move and play with my son, to be healthy and to be, you know, mobile and like when you think of those goals, if your goal is, you know, longevity and overall health and mobility, it doesn't always have to be this 50 minute sweating, killing yourself routine.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Sometimes it can be doing prime movements like Justin's saying, like, you know what, I really need to address my posture, I haven't done any of that. So just sitting there doing the wall tests for 15 to 20 minutes, like being okay with sometimes the routine doesn't look like this structured 50 minute. Yeah, sometimes maybe it's just a good walk for an hour. Maybe it's been times like that on the weekend where I just, man, I need to go lift weights, but you know what, even though I'm not into it,
Starting point is 01:26:15 in it to go lift weights right now, I can throw on a jacket and go outside and go for a nice walk for an hour and go for a hike. You know what the irony of that is, Adam, is that you're without, and I know you know this, but for someone listening, the side effect of that is you end up looking better anyway, because you're just consistent, right?
Starting point is 01:26:34 So because you're not all or nothing and you're doing something, the side effect of that is what you would want from being all in all the time. So that's the irony of the whole thing. Our next caller is Gabby from California. Gabby, what's happening? How can we help you?
Starting point is 01:26:53 I have been having an issue with my knee. I got maps prime and prime pro. But I mean, I work long hours. I'm a bartender, so I'm standing a lot. But I've tried, you know, like, 90, 90, I've tried stretching. It seems to hurt a little bit more when I'm trying to come out of a stretch. So I don't know if it's helping or if it's hurting.
Starting point is 01:27:18 So I'm a little bit lost because I can't really, I mean, I can squat but not that heavy or if I go heavy, it hurts. And then if I don't squat, I just, I don't know, it kind of sucks. Okay. Um, so try this. This is like a miracle cure. Take icy hot, bend gay, entire bomb. Whatever you're going to say, I'm joking. Totally joking. Okay. Okay. So I know you wrote your question up here and you had asked why maps,
Starting point is 01:27:43 prime and prime pro don't have a knee section. So let me address that first, Gabby, and then I'm going to ask you a few more questions. Is that okay? Yeah, that's fine. Okay. So the reason why we don't have specific knee mobility movements in those programs is because knee pain issues tend to come from almost almost always the ankles or the hips. Okay, so and the reason being is if you look at the knee joint,
Starting point is 01:28:09 it only moves kind of in two directions. It flexes and extends. It doesn't rotate and it doesn't bend laterally. It only flexes and extends. The ankle and the hip are, they move all over the place. They move laterally, they rotate, they twist. They have lots of movement in comparison to the knee.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And so what happens is if the ankle or the hip lacks strength and stability, then the ligaments of the knee tend to create that stability. And then over time you can create problems or even the short time you can get yourself an injury, which is also why she's probably feeling pain when she gets in and out of the 90-90. Yeah, so here's a tip with the 90-90, by the way. Whenever you're in a position where you're externally or internally rotating your leg,
Starting point is 01:28:53 and 90-90 you have both, right? One leg is externally rotated, that's the front leg, and then one is internally rotated, that's the back leg. Make sure you flex your ankle, bring your toes towards your shin, because what that'll do is that'll bolster the knee joint a little bit, because what it sounds like, is it sounds like you've got a little bit of inflammation
Starting point is 01:29:12 and pain in some of the ligaments that prevent the rotating of the knee, and because you're rotating the hip, and those are tight or lack stability, the knee is doing, is trying to stabilize with the ligament. So does that make sense, where you take your foot, and you bring your toes towards your shin and flex that while you're in position? does that make sense? Where you take your foot and you bring your toes towards your shin and flex that while you're in position? Does that make sense?
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah, that makes sense. I would also have her foam roll before she gets in the 99. That'll help. She might be so tight that when she's getting that, that's why I feel it. She probably feels pain in the hotel. Especially I'm trying to see of how it's tracking. If you're really tight along your IT band
Starting point is 01:29:43 and long size like Adam said, that would help to put you in a better position. Also, too, if you have access to yoga blocks, this is to another way to kind of regress some of the intensity there within the 90-90 position. You elevate your leg a bit or your hand is able to start of, you know, start from a higher position, which makes it more easy to get into that position. Yeah, and also don't forget ankle mobility. So like, if my knees bother me, it's, I used to think it was my hips all the time, and I'd work on hip stuff, and it would help a little bit, but not a ton. And then I learned later, it was all in my ankles.
Starting point is 01:30:27 So, working on my ankle mobility and even supplementing a little bit with my ankle mobility made a huge difference. So, one test of that that doctor brings to me with us quite a bit is if you squat, if you squat with your heels elevated and you don't feel pain and it feels pretty natural and easy. That's something that a lot of times you need to look at your ankle mobility and address that
Starting point is 01:30:53 specifically. There's a YouTube video that I did. I believe it's a fake snowy pain. Doug, is that- Yes it is. Is that what it is? So we brought it up on a show before and again, we'll put it in the show notes okay so check that video out because I believe I I addressed the foam rolling I believe I addressed the ankle mobility all in there so that's something that you can do before you know but that's the reason why there's nothing in prime or prime pro related needs because it's going to be ankle or hip always so that's kind of the area all, all the exercises and work in those programs that's centered around the ankles and the hips is basically where you need to be. If it's really uncomfortable to get in the 90-90, there's
Starting point is 01:31:33 a good chance, I don't know for sure, but there's a good chance that it's related to your IT, and then in that video I just referenced, it shows you how to foam roll the IT. That'll give you a little bit of relief before you go into the 90-90, and then that should help you out. And that's just something that you wanna practice religiously. This is such a visual thing too, as us trying to figure this out and cue and coach. One thing, so do you notice at all,
Starting point is 01:31:58 if your knees travel outward or inward when you squat down? So, I normally, I feel like I have it's more comfortable for me to have like a little bit of a wider stance and have my feet pointed out a little bit. And then I know like your knees are not supposed to cave in obviously so I work on like pushing them out. This is more you actually rotate is more comfortable. Yeah, so and it's always been that way and I have been squatting for like, I don't know maybe like two years before I had any issues. Okay. I'm pretty heavy and then I think it was when I started like running and squatting. Maybe I don't know, I think one day, I remember one day specifically,
Starting point is 01:32:44 I had a ran like two miles and then that same day happened to me like day and I just like went really to the IT. Yeah, IT for sure. Yeah, 100% IT. I was for sure after getting tight like that from the squats and then going out running like that, I guarantee that, have you ever foam rolled your IT before?
Starting point is 01:33:03 I have, so the thing is is it's mostly like the inner side of my knee. Like it hurts more the closer I bring. Like if I sit criss-cross or like if I go from pigeon to active pigeon I can feel like a sharp. Yeah, this is your meniscus is trying to prevent your knee from twisting. That's what that's what that is. So if you look at your knee joint, there's ligaments that prevent it from sliding forward, sliding back, bending laterally,
Starting point is 01:33:33 and then you have the meniscus that prevents it from twisting. And so the reason why you're having pain when you're impige in or in 90-90 is because your hips are rotating, so your leg is turning out, and there's a little bit of lack of stability there. And so your meniscus is holding tight and you're probably giving yourself a little bit of
Starting point is 01:33:52 inflammation with that. Here's something else. So the flexing of the foot will make a big difference by the way. It might not fix it completely, but it'll help you do some of these positions. So you get to bring the toes back and when you do that, what you're doing is you're activating the tibialis and that provides a little bit of stability in the knee or at least it prevents the meniscus from doing so much. The other piece of advice I'd have for you Gabby is for while you're working on this, I would do mostly unilateral
Starting point is 01:34:20 exercises for your lower body. So I would avoid squats, front squats, those types of exercises. And I would do, I'd also take it easy on the running too. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Take it easy on the right. And I would do unilateral stuff. Lunges, Bulgarian split stance squats, single leg toe touches, just until things start to feel better, I'd go lighter and go slower. Just to allow the inflammation is just to get a little bit better. Before you progress back to your bilateral movements like squats Okay, all right Yeah, that comes out some good. I hope that helps. Thanks for calling in nice Gabby
Starting point is 01:34:54 Thank you Yeah, it's the the whole knee issue It's interesting because you know what you know what one of the challenges is you'll say to somebody Well, it's usually the ankle of the hip right and they'll be like but I got imaging done and I because you know what one of the challenges is, you'll say to somebody, well, it's usually the ankle or the hip, right? And they'll be like, but I got imaging done and I have, you know, patellar contrimalation or I have inflammation of the... Yeah, there's definitely the compensations happening. Yes. ligament-wise, but that's not ideal.
Starting point is 01:35:15 No, and it's in the, you know, that rotating aspect, like for example, in Jiu-Jitsu, there's a submission called a heel hook, And it's literally you're twisting the leg while keeping their hips stationary. And people think it's a foot lock, but it's not. It's tearing your knee, totally apart. And that's what's happening. The ankle moves, but the knee doesn't, and then you get the problem.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Yeah, I just gotta get in better alignment. And then, you know, everything sort of, we gotta strengthen the supporting cast so that way like it keeps it stabilized. Yeah, this will bother me too, same thing. Yeah. And it's my ankles. If my ankles are really tight and I squat heavy,
Starting point is 01:35:52 that's exactly what I'll feel. I'll feel I'm in or out of part of my knee. I just want to highlight too, this is another reason why we tend to hammer the whole running thing so much too, because this is super common. It's super common that's gasoline on a problem. Yeah, and then if she's getting real tight from her squats and she's already got this condition or issue going on or the lack of ankle mobility and stability and hip mobility
Starting point is 01:36:13 and stability and then you go for a run on top of that. It's just like you're never going to get ahead of this as you're constantly going to be battling this. So, you know, regressing a little bit. Doesn't mean you can't go to car. You should go, you know, hiking up a hill would be really good, you know, some like that. Yeah, or't mean you can't go do cardio, you go hiking up a hill would be really good. You know, some like that, yeah, are liptical. There's other things that we can do instead of that, but this is why running can just be so powerful. And the main reason isn't necessarily because running's bad, it's because nobody treats running
Starting point is 01:36:37 like she has bad movement and then she goes and does it a lot. And nobody treats it like practice. Like, you know, she's probably focused on her technique and form when she squat, but then when you run, what do you do, you know, she's probably focused on her technique and form when she squat. But then when you run, what do you do? You run to fatigue. And that's when things really start to, you know, hurt. Our next caller is Ashlyn from Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Ashlyn, how can we help you? Hi. So recently I had started weight training again after a really long hiatus. So I was approaching it as a beginner. I had been consistent for about two to three months until I got COVID. So since I've been out from training for about three to four weeks and I've been wanting to get back to it, but I've been dealing with this lingering fatigue and exhaustion from the COVID that I haven't experienced in a long time since having adrenal fatigue. So anyway, my question is, what do you guys think is the best way, best healthiest, safest way
Starting point is 01:37:30 to get back into weight training with this fatigue and exhaustion? Yeah, good question. So there's a horse dewormer. I'm just kidding. Don't cancel us. Spotify. No, OK, so no, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:37:42 No, OK, so here's the deal. Doug, or they're cringing. I know he's already freaking out. All no, I'm just kidding. No, okay, so here's a deal. Doug or they're cringing. I know he's already freaking out. All right, I'm gonna give you the like the answer from my expertise and then I'm gonna give you the non expertise answer just based off of stuff that I've read, okay? So this is like this is for sure the good advice for sure good advice is Give it some time go very slowly and train according to how you feel give it some time, go very slowly and train according to how you feel. I've talked to lots of people that feel like you do after recovering from illness.
Starting point is 01:38:10 And it seems like some people it takes one to two months before they start to feel like themselves. And Adam was somebody the same thing, about a month and a half or two months where he kind of felt crappy and then slowly it came back. So that's the, that's the for sure like piece of it. Okay, here's some speculation based off of what I've read. Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not a doctor, but I've read a lot about glutathione and an AC supplementation to help with recovery from COVID.
Starting point is 01:38:40 There's been some studies to show there's a strong connection correlation to low glutathione levels from COVID. There's been some studies to show there's a strong connection correlation to low glutathione levels and severe symptoms of COVID and long COVID. So you can find liposomal glutathione. We work with a company called LiveOn, they produce it's really good. It's one of the best ones I've found. And then NAC, you can find online. Amazon doesn't sell anymore because I think the FDA is trying to re-regulate it. And although it's, although it's been available for 20 years, weird, while all of a sudden they want to do that. But anyway, that's a side note. Those two things right there, try supplementing with them and see if that helps with your recovery. But again, that's the part, take with the grain of salt. The most important part is just give yourself time. Everybody I've talked to you that's been in the situation. It took them about a month to two months,
Starting point is 01:39:24 and then they started to feel like themselves. As far as programming and stuff, do you have map starter? I don't. I've been using like a mixture of don't hate me. Fitness influencer programs that I felt like took the best from each one and kind of made my own. Yeah. I don't have a map. We're going to send you map starter. Yeah, Jesus. We don't want we don't want you to be in this but build. Yeah, we don't want you doing that. So your map starter will be will be absolutely perfect. Trust the process to I can anytime I put Katrina back on starter after she's been off for a while.
Starting point is 01:40:00 She's always antsy to get back after it. I'm like, listen, follow the programming. I promise that you'll continue to see great results. It'll get you ready for something a little more intense. So I would follow starter after you go through starter than I would consider going to anabolic. So follow starter to T, we're gonna send that over to you for free. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 01:40:17 And then, so I just walked, you know, so I would go for walks, and because I even noticed like if I went for like a long walk or like a like a pills And so that I could even feel I felt like almost like there was like Like someone standing on my chest Like it was just hard it was harder for me to breathe and it took me a good solid almost two months And all I would do is I would I would go or I'd be like riding the bike around the block with max and you know Something that I could do for a half hour to hour, no problem.
Starting point is 01:40:45 I could only do for about 10 or 15 minutes. And so I would just do that. I would kind of push to that limit and then I would back off and then relax. And I noticed I'd be really tired after that. So definitely my body's talking to me, letting me know that it was a lot for me at the time. So just take it slow and do walks and starter for now.
Starting point is 01:41:03 And listen to your body. I mean, you really gotta pay attention to those signals and like take it easy and really take that tempo and that pace down substantially. So you can use this time to work on the quality of your form and the mechanics of the movements and even just kind of sit in it for a while and rebuild that tension and just kind of pace it out
Starting point is 01:41:28 at a very slow pace and you're gonna build that momentum and get back when your body's adequately ready. Yeah, actually one more piece of advice, okay? Yeah. So are you a trainer or are you a trainer coach? Do you coach anybody or a trainer? I'm a yoga teacher, but not a fitness trainer. Okay, so, okay, awesome.
Starting point is 01:41:46 So this is gonna be great. Okay, so I have a little bit of knowledge of yoga. I've taken yoga maybe, I don't know, he bought the pants. Maybe 30 times, okay? He wears now pants. Yeah, I wear yoga pants on the weekends. No, I'll joking aside, imagine this, right? You're a yoga instructor, you know what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Imagine if you had someone like me who came to you and said, Hey, listen, I'm doing my own yoga routine. I took like 15 classes or I watched 15 videos on Instagram and I put together what I think to be the best routine for myself. Like how would you how would you feel about that? What would you think about that? Like, oh, yeah, stop it. Yeah, so what you're doing is number one, you're picking routines from a pool of idiots. Okay, so, fitness influencers are literally fitness morons. So I'm not exaggerating.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Yeah, I'm sad. And what you're doing is you're not only picking from a pool of idiots, but then you're taking that and mixing it based off of your randomly putting it. You're limited experience, so no offense to you, I get it, but you don't know what you don't know. And so what you've probably done is you're probably taking terrible routines and just making another terrible one. So follow map starter as it's laid out, trust the process, just like you would want when your students to trust your process and then see how see what happens.
Starting point is 01:43:04 It's just like you would want one of your students to trust your process and then see what happens. Okay. And should I take the program at the page that it's saying, take it out or should I just take it slow in this, my body? Well, it's always listen to your body. Always, but it's de-factor that in. Yeah, that's factored into it. That's why it's called Map Starter.
Starting point is 01:43:18 The thought process is somebody who's been away from lifting for a while or somebody who just came out of having a child. Like it's definitely a good place for you to start right now, and just follow it as instructed. Unless it's too, if it is too much back off, but I think you'll be fine. Awesome, that's great. Thank you so much, you guys.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I really appreciate this. No problem, thank you. All right. I'll tell you what, man, I really appreciate the social media fitness influencers, because it's like, it makes customers. Boy, do they give us, they give us a great,
Starting point is 01:43:48 just reminds me of it. Part of the market, don't they? Anytime we get something like that, it always just reminds me of how much more work we have to do. If you have somebody who's been listening to us for obviously long enough to know, she knows how to, you know, sit in a question and get on here,
Starting point is 01:44:00 but then doesn't have any of the programs and is randomly pulling from influencers. It's like how many of our audience is still, or how many people in our audience are still doing things like that. Right. Yeah, the problem is that they, you know, they value exercises just movement. Well, I'm just moving. So what's the difference if I'm...
Starting point is 01:44:18 Well, no, I'll never forget the first time I'm going to throw our friend on the bus here. When Craig and I were hanging out and he referred to exercise programming as ice cream flavors. I almost fucking, you know, threw my head through the wall after he set the ice. Are you fucking kidding me? This is part of the problem. This is part of the problem is that people really think it's just ice cream flavors and
Starting point is 01:44:39 it's like, oh, you like Rocky Road, have Rocky Road, oh, you like Med Ship, have Med Ship, it's like, there's a lot of science that goes into good programming. Just like programming for, it's more like programming for a fucking computer. A program. You want the program to turn your computer on. You throw a couple of wrong ones in zeros and it doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Or it crashes the whole thing. It's a very effective way to get to your desired outcome. And it's just like, there's a science behind it. And I guess that's why we get irritated because you know immediately whether or not they're using any science in their program. Yeah, well, and it's also a major difference between programming for results and just general exercise.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Okay, so I'll give you that, that, you know, general exercise is very nice for flavor. Yeah, sometimes. If you just want to randomly move and just burn calories and that's your desired outcome, but most people calling in or most people listening to show or have specific goals, I want to lose X amount of body fat, I want to build so much muscle, I want to run faster,
Starting point is 01:45:33 jump higher, live longer. Yeah, so you're consistent, that's great. Now let's look and see what's the best way, you know, to be consistent. It reminds me of like, when I have friends who, they're professional fighters or whatever, and they would always laugh at these videos online of like, this is how you disarm someone who's pointing at you.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Oh my God, dude, you're gonna get... You're gonna get perfectly like, happen exactly how the person's coming at you. They're like, dude, they're gonna get someone killed if somebody falls into this stupid advice. It's hilarious. Look, if you like our content, you gotta go to mindpumpfree.com and check out our guides.
Starting point is 01:46:06 We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness or health goal. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at MindPump Justin. I'm at MindPump Sal and Adam is at MindPump Adam. Thank you for listening to MindPump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy,
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