Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1751: How To Boost A Slow Metabolism After Weight Loss, The Truth About Myostatin Inhibitors, What To Do If You Are Having Trouble Bulking & More

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Sometimes you can lose weight on the scale and STILL get fatter! (4:25) A study linking more sleep to increased fat loss. (20:54) Adam’s supplement stack to stay healthy. (26:36) Mind Pump Recommends, The Tinder Swindler on Netflix. (34:00) Is this the end of Mind Pump on social media? (42:43) The results when Sal takes too many supplements. (46:43) What to expect with your Butcher Box subscription. (50:32) What’s the deal with the big toe shoe Reebok?! (52:51) Adam finally doesn’t care. (57:13) Sal, welcome to having a nice car. (58:47) #ListenerLive question #1 - Can you share any insight on the myostatin inhibitor, YK11? (1:01:38) #ListenerLive question #2 - Any tips for increasing my appetite if I’m having trouble bulking due to my faster metabolism? (1:12:00) #ListenerLive question #3 - How can I boost my slower metabolism after a massive weight loss? (1:23:10) #ListenerLive question #4 - How can I maintain muscle while training for performance for an upcoming fitness test? (1:33:39) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] February Promotion: MAPS Performance and MAPS Aesthetic 50% off!! **Promo code “FEB50” at checkout** Why The Scale Is Not Always The Best Way To Measure Progress – Mind Pump Blog How Resistance Training Works – Mind Pump Blog Effect of Sleep Extension on Objectively Assessed Energy Intake Among Adults With Overweight in Real-life Settings Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Watch The Tinder Swindler | Netflix Official Site Feds arrest a New York couple and seize $3.6 billion in stolen cryptocurrency Yohimbine Supplement - Examine.com Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! The Kith for Birkenstock Collab is a Warm Wave of Shearling and Suede Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP10” at checkout** YK11 SARM: How It Works, What To Expect & Results Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum MAPS Fitness Anabolic MAPS Strong Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram

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include your shirt size and your shipping address. And we'll get that shirt right out to you. Look, check this out. Sometimes you can actually lose weight on the scale and still get fatter. Ooh, I like it. Skinny fat. Dude, I, I, I remember the first time this happened to a client of mine and they were so befuddled.

Great word, right? befuddled. Yeah. They were so flapper-guested. I'll use it as a flabber-guess. That, that they were like, they were depressed about it. And so what happened, I'll tell the story. Bro, do you remember when this first, how many you?

Yeah. Yeah, I was devastated. Yeah, so what happens is, and I'll tell the story of my client, so she did an extreme diet, did an extreme diet, and lost 10 pounds on the scale. I tested her body fat percentage, and her body fat percentage went up a percent and she was like how is this possible? The scale has went down. It doesn't make any sense and I said look I said body fat percentage is a percentage of your overall body weight So if you lost 10 pounds But seven pounds was muscle and three pounds was body fat. You are smaller

But now your body fat is a larger percentage of your overall body weight because you've lost muscle. So, and this happens to people sometimes, they'll lose weight and they've lost muscle through either doing just tons of cardio and cutting the calories too low and whatever. And then they are smaller, but flabier versions of the cells with the slow-ermatiles

and they can't figure out what's going on. So, there's always a hard conversation when you get the body fat dunk tank to come in and do these competitions. Yeah, and that would be the information that they would receive as like, wow, but now my entire composition of body fat increased. How is that even possible? This didn't just happen sometimes.

This happens most of the time. And I'll never forget when I brought the dunk tank in for all my trainers. So we did a competition. So this is when it really came full circle. So I kind of seen it with clients. And when it's a client, part of that is you're wondering if maybe they adherence, right?

Maybe they weren't listening to what you said or maybe they weren't training that hard or whatever, right? You're kind of as a trainer, you're going like, oh, I wonder how honest they're being with me about what they said they were doing. Well, I did this competition. At this time, I have like 20 some trainers. I believe Justin's part of this group. And there's like 20 something trainers.

We decided to do, I put money on the line, you know, who can get, you know, the change, the greatest change in body fat percentage over a course of like three months. And so everyone's all in on this. And when we go and get dunked, I'd say more than half of my trainers, including myself on the first one, my body fat percentage went up. And I mean, this is after me like consistently dieting,

training consistently, not fucking up anywhere, and I was pissed. And I remember everybody thought the dunk tank was inaccurate, but what it really highlighted is how easily you can over train and under eat. Even people that are that's, that advance, understand nutrition and exercise really well. What a fine line that is when you are in a caloric deficit and you're also training like five, seven days a week,

like most of these trainers were, how easily you can drop 10, 15 pounds on the scale and all it takes, right? You lose 10 pounds on the scale. All it takes for the body fat percentage to go up in a situation like that. It's not as difficult as you think. 10 pounds come off the scale and six of it is muscle

and four of it's fat and you've got fatter. Even though you're 10 pounds lighter on the scale, this was mind blowing for all my trainers And a lot of them were debating. Oh, it's not true. I look better. I feel better. It's like no bro You lost muscle because it is not near benefit with losing weight Well, what happens is that what happens is and this happens to clients happens to trainers is they decide they're gonna Get shredded or lean out. They overdo overdo it. And they cut back dramatically on calories, they increase activity.

And then they just watch the scale. And they watch. And the observation state of that point, your body's trying to reserve as much energy as possible. And it's deceiving because not only does it scale them, but you get smaller. You know, your pant, your pant up for it. Yeah, you look different.

So you start going like, oh, it's working. I'm going the right direction, not realizing that you're losing muscle as fast as you are losing body fat. Yep, to put it differently, just so if someone's confused watching this right now, so 20 pounds of body fat on a 100 pound person is 20% body fat, which is for a man

that would be high body fat percentage. So if you had a 100 pound guy, 20 pounds of body fat, he's at 20% body fat, that's a lot of body fat, which is for a man that would be high body fat percentage. Okay. So if you had a hundred pound guy, 20 pounds of body fat, he's at 20% body fat. That's a lot of body fat for someone that weight. Now, if you took a 200 pound man who had the same amount of body fat, 20 pounds of body fat, it's 10% body fat. That is lean. That's a six pack on the 200 pound man. So that's kind of how it works. On the flip side, you can gain weight on the scale and get leaners and get a leaner body fat percentage. So if everybody watching this right now lost zero pounds of body fat,

but gained 10 pounds of muscle, your body fat percentage would automatically drop. Because now that amount of body fat you have on your body is a smaller percentage of your body weight, overall body weight. And this is why oftentimes I'd get clients whose weight would go up a little bit on the scale and they couldn't understand why they would keep getting compliments that they were looking leaner.

They're like, yeah, like this is so weird. My coworkers keep telling them, I look leaner, but I gained like three or four pounds on the scale. How is this possible? I love this conversation because this was a very pivotal moment for me as a trainer because it completely changed the way I communicated this to my weight loss clients. My clients that wanted to lose 50 plus pounds of fat. And this is the beginning of when I would start having

this conversation of, okay, I know you hired me to lose 50 pounds, but what I'm gonna tell you right now is this first month or two, I actually don't wanna see anything come off the scale. We're just a couple of years before that, you know, I was in a hurry to show them weight loss. So they would resign with me. It's like, oh, you want to lose 50 pounds.

So they, let's say they bought 10 sessions, I got a month with them. Okay. I got to show them some results. So cut the galleries, cardio, train them, and then at the end of the month, I'm like, we did 10 pounds. All right. Let's sign up for some more. And then before you know it, you hit this hard plateau

or you go do the body fat percentage and realize, oh shit, they got fatter. So this was a complete shift in the way I looked and trained my clients going forward. And I started telling those clients that wanted to lose weight, that listen, I know that's your ultimate goal. But it's body fat that we really want to lose.

That's it, because you could cut your leg off and lose 20 pounds. That's not the kind of weight that you want to lose. It's about body fat percentage. And the difference between a lean, you know, if you're a female watching this, if you're a woman and you're like, I want to get down to, I don't know, make up a number. I want to get down to 110 pounds. Forget that for a second. What you probably want is a lean body fat percentage. And the weight on the scale is a bit arbitrary. It doesn't mean much. I've talked about this many times on the podcast,

but I used to have this female trainer that worked for me. She was just, she was lean and sculpted, and she lifted weights all the time, very athletic. And I would bring her in my office oftentimes to help sell memberships and personal training. Now she wouldn't come in and sell the programs. It was usually when I had a, and this typically would happen with women

because they were a little bit more reluctant to wanna see the scale go up at all. And typically it's because I'm showing them the weights and I'm showing them the machines and we're doing a tour of the gym and they'll say something like, no, no, no, no, no, I don't wanna bulk up. I'm not trying to build.

I just wanna do the treadmill. I just wanna, and I'd explain kind of what we're talking about now. And then I'd do this challenge for them. It was a very effective thing. It was an incredible sales tool. And I'd sit down with them and I'd say, I tell you what, I'm going to bring in one of my female trainers.

And if you can guess her body weight within 15 pounds, I'll give you a free membership from them. But if you can't, guess, then you need to really strongly consider what I'm talking about. How did that sound? They'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll guess. I'd bring her in. And she was this five foot one lean, tiny waist sculpted female trainer.

And they would always guess like a hundred pounds, a hundred and five pounds. She was 130 pounds. But she was small. Because muscle is very dense. Muscle takes up about two thirds the amount of space that body fat does. But this is a good conversation because- It's a really good conversation because I think this is one of the number one reasons

why people struggle with fat loss because it's not as simple as we may. I know there's a lot of stuff right now where you hear the lot of thermomammics, right? You have calories in, calories out, that's all it is. Oh, if you're eating this much cut up down to this But it's not that simple because if you take somebody let's say they're maintenance right so they they don't lose or gain 2000 calories they want to lose

X amount of pounds of fat so they decide to reduce their calories they drop down to 1500 calories Okay, seems fine, but what happens if the of those 1500 calories? They're only getting 20 grams of protein for the day. What is going to happen? Yeah. Yeah, it'll lose muscle. Or what if they're not sending a, hey, I need muscle signals. Right. And they're doing more cardio based exercise, right?

They got circuit training going on. So you got circuit training going on. So they're lifting really lightweight. So not really sending a loud muscle building signal. They're burning tons of calories. They're eating 20 to 30 grams of protein. What is going to happen? Your body is going to pair down muscle.

You're not feeding it enough to keep that muscle on there's not sending a signal out enough to keep muscle. And so what ends up happening is yeah, the scale goes down, but they just slow their metabolism down. Your body, keep this in mind. This is an evolutionary trait, right? So we evolved for thousands and thousands and thousands of years in an environment where calories were very tough to come by.

Very starvation was one of the number one threats. It's no longer that way, but this is how we typically evolve. And so what your body is very good at doing two things. It will number one, adjust your behaviors to get you back at calorie maintenance. In other words, if you're eating lower than you're burning, it'll ramp up appetite. It'll lower energy to try and get you to sit and not move as much.

It'll do all kinds of things to your behaviors to get you to burn less calories or especially eat more calories, right? So that's one. The other thing that it does is it tries to change the calorie burn side of the formula by reducing your caloric requirements. One of the most effective ways to do this, besides getting you to not move as much, one of the most effective ways to do this is to shrink the size of your engine. It's like if you have a car, if I want to make my V8 suburban burn less gas and I had the ability to snap my fingers and give myself a force cylinder engine, that would be one of the most effective ways to do it. It was cut the engine. In fact, newer models, in fact,

they'll do that. They'll switch from four cylinder to eight cylinder, depending on how you drive to reduce the amount of gas consumption. So what your body does is it's always constantly working its hormones and manipulating its own tissues and your behaviors to keep that balance. So that's the challenge. That's why weight loss is so hard,

and that's why it's so hard to maintain. So what we can do, the most effective thing we can do in this scenario is understand this and say, what are some things that I can do that will convince my body? So it's what you got to do. You got to convince your body to increase my calorie burn. Now, I can force it by just moving more all the time,

but your body's very, very good at making movement more efficient. It can actually learn and teach itself to burn less and less calories over time doing the same type of activity. And it's very good at doing this. The most effective way to manipulate the calorie burn is to build the size of your engine, right? Gain muscle. So you have to, if you really want to lose the size of your engine, right? Gain muscle. So you have to, if you really want to lose weight in an effective way, you have to tell

your body we need more muscle, we need strength. It's more important to us that we're strong and then we have muscle for our survival than it is to have a lower calorie burning engine. That's the argument that you're basically making to your body. So how do you do that? Well, you lift weights. Now your body, the stress that your body is sensing is, well, we need strength, but that's not all.

You also have to feed it appropriately because if you don't feed it appropriately, you can send all the strength muscle building signal you want. Your body is like, we just don't have the capacity to build more muscle. We try to bring this up, because I mean, this strategy was that provide you with an increased appetite, you have more options and flexibility in your diet. Like having more strength for longevity,

you avoid arthritis and pains and unnecessary abilities that are, you're just gonna lose those abilities when you don't have strength and you're not gonna be able to do as much. And so in plus you get, you're gonna get better sleep, you're gonna have more energy. There's just a lot more benefits with that strategy than to just pair down your overall mass and slim down.

Yeah, and the other thing to consider too is when you understand this, and you're like, look, the scale is one metric, but it's part of a big pie that I need to take a look at. A most more important piece of the pie is body fat percentage, because that means much more than just the scale, as we just explained, performance and strength and all those things. Let's look at the whole picture. Let's consider that.

Let's adjust our training nutrition around that. Then when we do, and we're sending the right signal to build muscle, and we're feeding the body appropriately, what the body does, so let's say the body says, okay, I'm getting the message, we need strength, we need muscle, oh, and we have the nutrients to do so. So we feel safe doing so, it doesn't stop there. Here's one of my favorite things that happens.

Your body organizes its messenger hormones, or just its hormones, to do this. What kind of hormone profile tells your body to build more muscle? Well, men and women, a muscle building hormone profile, is a youth hormone profile. It's a similar one to the one you have when you're feeling great and you're in your teens and 20s It's higher testosterone both in men and women balanced estrogen and progesterone of women better growth hormone better insulin Sensitivity so it's like this incredible cascading effect now if you don't do any of that and you ignore that and you just look at the scale And all you care about is losing weight on the scale You very often will fall into the trap of

telling my body to lose muscle, pare it down. Now my hormones are organized in a way to reduce muscle mass. This is why overdieting, over cardio and men results in lower testosterone levels in women. You see the effects of HPA access to function, which we used to call a adrenal fatigue back in the day, I know people roll their eyes, but that's what we used to kind of refer to it as.

Higher cortisol, estrogen, and progesterone imbalance. And then as you said, Adam, you hit this nasty plateau. So you're like, oh, I'm eating 1500 calories, I lost 10 pounds. Oh no, it's not working anymore. I guess I go down to 1200 calories, lost five more pounds. Now what, go down to 1,000 calories.

Okay, and then you get to your goal, and you're like, I got to eat 1 a thousand calories for the rest of my life. Like, how is this going to possibly start going there? I'm miserable. And that's why, you know, 85 plus percent put it all back on. Yes. Is that one point and do you blame them? At one point you go, my goal was to lose 50 pounds.

I busted my ass to get 30 to 40 off. I'm eating only a thousand calories a day. I'm training five to seven days a week. This is fucking miserable. I'd rather be a little fatter. Yeah, I know, right. But you just accept that's what happens. That's exactly what happens to people, but it doesn't have to be that way.

But it really, it's that shift. Like you have to start looking at, okay, I know this is my long term goal is to lose the 50 pounds or whatever it is, but I first want to build a metabolism that's going to help me versus working against your metabolism by instantly just cutting. Yeah, it's like this. I'll use an analogy, right?

It's like you got a paint, a huge fence. You got this huge fence, you got paint. You got capy trees. And you're going to just paint it with one coat. And you have a paintbrush. It's one of those little tiny paint brushes that you could do little details on canvas is with. And then you also have a roller or a spray, you know, a machine that sprays paint, right? And what do you do? You pick the frickin paint

brush and you sit there and after a year you get like a third of the way there and you're like, I'm done, man, I can't keep doing this, take it for all you had to do was pick up the frickin' the spray machine or pick up the roller and you would have been done in three months because you would have done something, it would have done it in a way that was far more effective. So this is, and it's so frustrating, the reason why I brought this up is because

people often do what you said, Adam, is they, oh, body fat tests, it's not accurate. Oh, it's long, there's no way this could possibly happen. Oh no, it happens, it's actually more often wrong. Yeah, because you're still doing work. And so you attribute the work as progress. Yes. And no, you know, you might not be taking you to the desired out there. Yeah. Speaking of fat loss, interesting study I just read today, it was really fascinating study. So they took a group of people who averaged a little less than six and a half hours of sleep every single night.

So they obviously weren't sleeping very well. Half hour of sleep. No, no, little less than six and a half hours. Oh, these are half hours. No, six hours. And so, yeah, no. And this is a lot of people like this. A lot of people will get like, you know, six hours of sleep and they're just constantly

pushing them so whatever. And all they did was take these people and get them to sleep one hour more a night. That's it. And they wanted to see what would happen. They all got leaner. All of them got leaner. Just naturally, or they're doing something. Well, when they looked at what was going on, what they found was that extra hour of sleep fundamentally changed their behaviors. So they consumed about 150 calories less a day.

And it's because the, well, I noticed that. That's one of the craziest things I noticed about being sleep deprived is my cr... And it took me a long time to start to piece like, you just don't really put it together. Like, everyone has like their cravings, right? Everyone's experienced, oh, I'm certain I crave this

or something, but not often do we kind of like try and connect it to something, right? You just accept that, oh, I'm craving this today because I'm hungry or I feel like it. But over years, obviously, of training clients and then paying attention to this and dieting in and out, like, boy, it's crazy. When I have a night where I had a rough night of sleep,

I have the strongest cravings for greasy junk food and sweets, and it's wild, like how directly connected those are. I know, and it's so funny too, because if you're somebody that's like, okay, I want to lose a little weight, like, what's one thing I can do that might make a big difference?

And if you're somebody that chronically just doesn't get seven and a half to eight and a half hours of sleep every night, maybe that's all you got to do. Don't do anything else. You could just sleep and you lose weight. Yeah, just, I mean, if that's your issue. Yeah, just go to bed, like, make it a goal to go to bed an hour early, and don't do anything weird, you could just sleep and you lose weight. Yeah, just, I mean, if that's your issue. Yeah, just go to bed, like make it a goal

to go to bed an hour early, and don't do anything else. Right. And then your behavior's not- It's not the sleep that's making us burn more calories. It's that you're gonna have less cravings and you'll have better behaviors. Better behaviors, right? But you don't even have to, the beauty about

this kind of behavior modification type thing is you don't have to consciously try to eat Lass or doing the else all you got to do is be like I'm just gonna sleep another hour You know and then boom and then you make better decisions, you know You're day and all by all by itself. I think a lot of and you mean how do you do that too? I think that is the next you know part of that conversation and I really think that it's the sleep routine It's something that we talk about all the time if there's an area that I neglect it's that it's the sleep routine. It's something that we talk about all the time. If there's an area that I neglect, it's that.

It's like, I say it all the time, but then I'm like, oh, shit, I hear I am, it's 11 o'clock, and I'm still up doing bullshit. Like, I mean, honestly, it's like you have to, we just answered a question on a lot of quality other day, and that was one of the things we were talking about. It's like you have to make that a priority. Like if you're only sleeping six hours a night,

and this is an area where you're trying to improve, like you have to take your getting ready for bed seriously, and actually the same way you commit to yourself of getting up and shower and brushing your teeth and getting to work on time, you have to think that same way of like getting to bed on time, like you have to commit that. Okay, I'm gonna be to bed at 9.30 or 10,

or whatever your time is, and then it doesn't just end there. It's like, okay, which means I should probably eat my dinner more like six hours before. Two, three hours before, and then I should be turning the lights down, getting them off TV, getting off computer an hour before that, and it's like you actually have to consciously.

What is your guys, do you guys have a time that you're trying to hit, your target time to go to bed? Yeah, we try to get in bed by 10.30. Is it 10.30? Yeah, 10.30 is kind of 11.30. I mean, it's I'm a late person. And again, this is this affects my morning. Yeah. And why I'm so caffeinated in the morning. I'll just gonna say I wonder if it's connected to weird. No association there at all. But then what time do you wake up? So I'll wake up at like 6 30s, you know,

oh, 11 30s. 30s. Okay, but you're trying to go to 11, so I'm assuming you often miss the one. Yeah, I'll go to midnight, like more than I'd like to. Oh, sure. That's just, dude, because it's time spent with my wife by myself, you know, without the kids interrupting us. Right, you might be having sex, which I think you get a patch.

Yeah. If you'll say like, is this sleepy sex? Yeah, yeah. You know, that helps me sleep back. So, in effect, you know, that helps. Dude, I'm so mad, you know, you probably, I was gonna bring in a study today to verify my cheese addiction.

Everybody's been setting it to me. Oh my god. If you see it about, like, you can see it, what is it? You assimilate protein more effectively. Cause you eat cheese. Yeah, when you eat, when you include cheese. And you're dieting.

Oh, no, that's not the one I saw. Oh, you can see that one? No, there was a mayor that said that. Is that because of the carbohydrates? Is that what they do? I don't, I didn't even read it. Cause we know that, right? We know that if you assimilate protein better,

if you actually pair it with carbohydrates, maybe we can find this. Doug, Doug, if you see if you can find that. Cause I, yeah, I would always simply like that. Well, I compare the one. Anything that builds my case. Well, compared to what? Well, because I wonder if it's like the egg would always be like that. Well, I compared the one. Anything that builds my case. Well, compared to what? Because I wonder if it's like the egg studies

because they show that. Well, compared to not, like, that's why I'm saying the carbohydrates because you're getting some carbohydrates in the system. No, no, no, no, no. I think it's something else because maybe, but it might be something else because you know, did you guys see the egg study?

Like if you just ate egg whites, you would simulate less protein as a percentage than you do if you eat a whole egg. And so there was a study that showed whole leg is better. Yeah, so I'm wondering if it has to do with the fats, the... That's for all of us, yeah. The maybe the carbs or something else.

Cause whole soups are both of the fats and amino acids. The cells of your small intestines absorb the amino acid released by cheese digest, no, that's not a dog, that's not the study. Okay, yeah, come on, go. Yeah, you know, ask to release by cheese digest. No, that's not a dog, that's not the study. Okay. Yeah. Come on, Doug. Yeah, I know. Sorry.

I'm not familiar with that. Maybe it's made up of Instagram study. I have no idea. It fits valid or not. You probably should have saved it. Well, while you're looking this up, I have a question for Sal, that's related to our partners in commercial day

with live on because, so dude, first of all, the having a kid in school, as a two and a half year old is real, this whole, I was told this, right? Everyone told me this. It's like one of these parent dad things that all the other dads tell you it's coming. But you don't even realize how crazy it is

until you're in it, which is my kid since the beginning of winter, so let's say October, October, November, has been sick more than he's not. It's just like right now, Kachini and I celebrate like, oh my God, we had a week in Max's not, got to run he knows or coughing. It's like, it's crazy how sick he is.

And I've caught it the last few times. And so this time I'm trying to be better. He just got a sick again, right? He just came off a good week of not being sick or sick again. I'm on my live-on laps. Let me, I wanna run my stack by you and I wanna know one, if there's anything else

I could add to that or if I'm doing the right thing. So I got the, the glutathione, I'm taking with the vitamin C from live-on, okay? Then I take a zinc and then I take my vitamin D and there's one more thing I'm taking. Vitamin C, glutathione, vitamin D, what am I missing? There's another thing I'm taking vitamin C, gluteus, vitamin D. What am I missing? There's another thing I'm taking.

Let's just say it's so for for right now because I can't think of it. There's some corsetin in there. Is that just live on? Have that. They don't, but I would throw a corsetin in there for the zinc. Live on also has that's really good. But I have taken zinc. Yeah, but corsetin helps with the absorption of zinc and it's also got some good effects

for the lungs. And then live on also has a Cedal Elcarnitine, which is called a color packet. It's the gray one. I go on a color packet. No, they have Alphalopolic acid. And Alphalopolic acid. They have the Acetal Elcarnitine.

Alphalopolic acid is the gray one. Yeah, that's another gray one, I think. And then the Acetal Elcarnitine, I would take all those. I love Alphalopolic acid. So I should take four of their packets, then you're saying. Take them all, bro. Take them all. One shot. I just want to make sure I'm I should take four of their packets then you're saying. Take them all, bro. Take them all.

One shot. I just want to make sure I take a, you know, I don't like the taste of them. So I'm trying to take what I need to take. I squeeze it, you're like, so in Courtney like does like the hot water and like more water and like puts it in there. She doesn't even,

so I shoot it like this. I mean, just now I took it back to the packet, but I normally put like a little shock glass basically and put it in there and then I shoot it. You guys are such babies. I do it straight. It tastes like forts Yeah, it is literally fucking good boom go, but I will say I don't know what it is I'm the glutathione. I'm the good soul for I think yeah, but the glutathione I I don't know I don't know if this is like just in my head or what but I have like feel it. I swear to God I take it and I'm like oh man my lungs feel bad I feel it. I swear to God, I take it and I'm like,

oh man, my lungs feel better. I do, I don't know. I don't know if it's okay. Like literally like within like a half hour, I swear to God, it makes me feel better. Yeah, no, it's glutathione and vitamin D man so closely connected to your ability to fight off infection.

It's really incredible. Okay, as you find your cheese thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It says cheese ingestion increases muscle protein synthesis rates both at rest and during recovery from exercise. Okay. So what? Let me read the background here. Doug, is there anything specific about that read the, let me see the methods. 30 grams of protein provided as cheese or milk protein concentrate. Let's look at the results. How about we put it if it's funded by craft cheese or not.

Let's get that's a plastic craft fucking fun. And this one. So is it saying that that the milk protein ingestion and the cheese was better or that they were both good? Oh boy. I'm not going to read the studies. All 30% higher peak concentration following milk protein than cheese ingestion. So plasma total, so go down the conclusion. Okay.

Yeah. The post-prenual muscle protein. So the rate's increased when you add cheese. Chees or pines? Oh, stupid. Come on. Okay. Cheese, ready for this?

Cheese and milk. Cheese is life. No difference when you see what the protein synthesis post workout. So I guess they were comparing cheese and milk. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you know what you want to know? It's funny. Dairy, dairy, so long as you can tolerate it,

because a lot of people have dairy issues. But if you don't have any dairy issues, dairy is... They're my sleeps on it. It is the world's best sleep on it. The most sleep on dairy. That's dairy. Listen, dairy and eggs, so long as you can tolerate them,

are nature's most anabolic foods. Yeah, it's true. Now, why do you think those so many people are intolerant to it? Well, dairy, it feels like more so in the last decade than the previous. It always has been, you know what this, okay,

here's the main theory, and it's a pretty good theory, that humans didn't domesticate cows and start consuming dairy for quite a while. So we did that relatively recently. I mean the Mongols did, so it has to go away beyond that. No, no, no, it depends on the region, right? So for a long time, most humans didn't do that. People in Northern Europe did, I don't remember like 10,000 or more years ago, they started

doing it. It's a long time ago, bro. Yes, but in the whole grand scheme of things, it's not that much. You look at Asian populations, African populations, Mediterranean populations, far more rates of lactose intolerance and dairy intolerance, but there are regions in Africa, like the Messiah tribe, for example, or those regions where the Messiah, they can tolerate dairy no problem, and they've been consuming it for a long time. You're right about the mongols

that they consume lots of dairy. So there's definitely regions in the world where dairy is very easily tolerated, and then areas where it's not so much. And it has all to do with whether or not your ancestors had a lot of dairy or not. Now, you know what's funny about that? When we first started consuming dairy,

however many thousands of years ago, it definitely weeded people out. Could you imagine being part of a tribe and they're like, hey, this is the food we got. And you're like, it gives me stress. I already know, days,

sucks for sale. You're dead. Well, nobody's having sex with you, so you're not gonna have no kids, dude. You're jeans again. You're hunting an animal, no, so they were all back in the way. And you're screwed.

Hey, back to the live on supplements, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and your insulin response to carbohydrates. So post workout, alpha-lipolic acid with creatine and carbohydrates and proteins, so you have your post workout meal, have some creatine with that, take some alpha-lipolic acid. You're gonna give me some right now, Doug, is that what you're doing? Yeah, I'm walking up. Okay, thank you.

You get, you're giving Jeremy keys. You'll have a better, faster absorption rate, and it's quite significant with creatine. So I've been taking it now for a while post workout. Interesting, yeah. So it's pretty good stuff. They've got some good... Are you seeing like other companies that have like

creatine or post-workout shakes actually including that in there or not? Or the original, I hate, I don't want to give these people a plug because they have shitty supplements. But the original MuscleTech, CellTech. Really? But it also included 75 grams.

Well I know, but show, that's interesting. That's interesting. I mean, I still, but that's interesting. That's interesting. I mean, I still stand by that was like one of the first real supplements that I noticed I got anything from, but I'm sure like, we're gonna have a lot of fun. That was a popular, yeah. And you had to load it. Don't forget, you know what I'm saying? So you were doing it.

It was the first time I think I like, I was too much sugar. I never experienced that. I remember drinking it and getting like nauseous. What flavor were you? I was great. I was great. Yeah. I got a bunch of fucking punch. Oh, fruit punch was gross. Yeah.

So weird, dude. Oh, it was good. Yeah, fruit punch was gross. That explains a lot. It was sweet. It explains a lot. Hey, I saw, listen, listen Linda. I saw in Justin's notes for today's talk, he had put something up there.

I've been dying to talk to you guys about it. I totally forgot about it. And I'm so glad you put it in there. Is the the the twindler Swindler? What's it? What's it? What do you call it? Twindler? Twindler? Tender. Well, yeah, I can swindler. Twindler. Yeah. The tender, the tender swindler. Yeah. It's a Netflix documentary on this guy that was hustling chicks on on tenders and the crazy story of her and while the the level that he went to now I heard he got something nine or ten minutes you haven't watched this yet no I just heard about you got to watch this okay so he got no millions he I mean he's good at is he doing this

is okay the crazy part so we're watching hard to explain I'm gonna spoil I don't carry there's still you should watch it anyways because there's lots of stuff in there to watch but I mean the first. I don't carry. There's still you should watch it Anyways, there's lots of stuff in there to watch But I mean the first like half hour Katrina and I it sucks you in because Katrina are going like How is he gonna come out of this because he's spending money like he's spending a lot of his own money flying on private jets and doing This stuff like first first dates gets somebody on it's all to tender though Yeah, so he would you know fly on his private jet with a girl on their first day, go to a five-star restaurant.

So she's like, oh, he's rich. Yes, handsome. He's charming. Yeah, so he shows the light and pulls up. Yeah, some girl to validate his character. You know, has this girl supposed to be his kid? You know, all this kind of stuff. Yeah, and the whole thing is like really like displaying this persona like he's like super successful

And like he just like totally like portrays this like Fantasy that a lot of girls have and so once he hooks them well, and here's a here's a thing too The the girls that he's done it so many times then none of them want to rat him out because they all feel the girls that he's done it so many times, then none of them want to rat him out because they all feel tear free. Every time, because they volunteer their money. This is like embarrassed, but. Yeah, and I mean, they're, he, you think, okay,

how does this guy do this? Because he's, he's spending like, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars to show how rich he is. And he's got girls that don't even have that much money, but convincing them to take loans out and open credit cards and just now why are they giving money? Why are they giving money? Because he builds this relationship with them over the course of months, right?

So like it's like he's he's always working like at least one or two girls at a time. And he and then all of a sudden he comes up like he has these and he's like the same pictures. He has a body he rolls with bodyguards all the time and stuff. And then all of a sudden he'll show a picture of them like, his body guard jumped and fucked up. And there are people who are coming after me. It's the same exact pictures and videos.

He sends every single girl like at a certain point where he knows he has them. He's like now crisis. And he's like, I need money. Yes, he's like, I have enemies. And I'm in the diamond business or whatever business he's pretending he's in. Oh my God. And he's like, oh, they're after me. and I'm in the diamond business or whatever business. He's pretending he's in oh my and he's like

Oh, they're after me and I like dude and the thing is he's been spending so much money on them that they're like oh God like yeah, we help you we got to go a little deeper. Okay. If you guys remember the movie true lies. Yeah, okay great movie And you remember how Arnold Schwarzenegger's buddy And you remember how Arnold Schwarzenegger's buddy was trying to fool his wife to see if she was having an affair or whatever. Oh, no, there was a guy that was, there was a guy that was fooling him.

He had the Corvette and he was like, yes, and his whole ploy was, he's a special agent and a spy and she fell forward or whatever. Okay, what this guy's doing is he's playing on female psychology, where rich, mysterious, good looking, oh my God, there's some risk and some danger. Ooh, I'm getting the chills, let's do this. And he's playing in the psychology.

And it's funny to me because to Swindle women, it's pretty damn complicated. Swindle guy's pretty fucking easy. Oh yeah, that's why it's on another level what he's doing. And he's getting away with it. Because they're freely giving him the money, so you can't really prosecute him. Well, what ends up happening, by the way,

like he ends up getting caught, he goes and gel. The girls who open the credit cards, they're still fucked. The courts don't like award her money or anything like that because they put it in their name. Everything's in their name. They not only that, he even gets these girls to like, like, he's on the phone or he's like in another country using the credit card, he gets the girls to get on the phone with Amax and say it's them using their card to help protect him so he doesn't get

caught by his fucking brilliant bro when he does. Oh, so even at the end of the card up. And every time it gets a score, he goes to date the next girl that's in wherever he's flying to next. Wow. He's using the money he just got. Yeah. To line goes to date the next girl that's in wherever he's flying to next He's using the money. He just got yeah to line and dying the next girl That's the challenge when you get catfish or ripped off so listen to my say Bro, this is a very do does dude gets sentenced for one year does five mount five months He's out you can look up his handle right now full is flying around in private jets, rolls, voices, doing it again.

He's still on Tinder. It's unreal. It's crazy. I wonder how many. He literally got a slap on the wrist. I mean, all the evidence, there's a documentary around him, everything out in five months, running game again. Yeah, I'm telling you, he's tapping into some weird psychology.

It's very, well, remember I brought up that one guy who was, who's doing, you know, serial killers in prison will get women who will like... Or fans, right? No letters and want to marry them and shit like that? Serial killers, like fucking... These people who killed and dismembered people will have fans. Women, female fans. Yeah, but you don't know him.

How I know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But like, so what I was trying to say is... So tell me you weren't tripping out on this when you're watching the document You these are girls that have if they've it's already all came out and they're telling the story and even when they're talking about him You could tell they're like they're not naked. They're not like scorned. They're not like he's a piece of shit They're telling the story like he was genuinely like we fell in love with this. Yes, or like we're like root best friends

They even after getting a block a friend. He fucks his friends over to You genuinely like fell in love with this. Yes. Or like we're like, root best friends they thought. Even after getting fucked. Even just a friend, he fucks his friends over too. Wow. It's crazy, bro. Like I said, it's psychology,

because if you look at the way guys get ripped off, it's easier. No, give me your example. On the way to the way the guys get hustled, because I watch a doc on this, where there's guys that do this, they pretend, they go, that do this, they pretend, they go, they find a, you know,

an Instagram model who has 10 million followers, Rip all her pictures, put it on, create a new profile, within a week, some dude will slide in the DMs, flirt back and forth for like a week, then get them to pay for, you know, private flights or whatever like that, somewhere in the country, and then just cut the Instagram off

and they just got a free. That's what I mean, it's way more simple. Oh, hell easy for a guy. Look at me half naked. Hey, buy me a flight ticket. Okay. Okay. But she likes me.

But she don't like me. Girl's gonna be hell of sophisticated. No, you don't understand. She really lets say when you take your buddy the strip club. Yeah, strip club. You know, when you're first to go. She likes me. Oh, probably remember, when I turned 18, I'm gonna hang out after this year. She really let's say when you take your buddy the strip club When you first

Remember when I turned 18 when I turned 18 because I'm gonna turn 18 I so I remember I on this podcast. I shared the the ultimate stripper story that remember when I got fucked in Hawaii Yeah, it's because you're you know what I said when you turn 18. There's not much It's not like exciting. What can I do? I can go to strip club and I can go to war So I guess I'll go to strip club. Yeah, and I Remember as 18 year old kid, I took a couple hundred bucks. There's a lot of money for me.

Went to a strip club with my buddies and you get all this attention from this half naked girl and she's talking to you and she's fl- And you're literally, you don't realize your own psychology, right? Especially at that age, you're like, no, no, you tell your buddy. No, no, you don't understand it. She really likes me. She's just doing this because she's trying to you know she's going to

medical your other brain completely takes it I literally literally she's going to medical school and she needs to make money to support herself you know but she really liked me did I can tell she I could tell she wanted like really make out me but the balancer we're doing yeah you know I'm saying how much money did you give her a couple hundred bucks. I was like, it's stupid. You have to watch this, though, because I'm following now, because I'm so interested in like, how a doctor in a show is out on this guy, and he did any serve time, and he's out,

and he's already running game again. It's like, we can really learn stuff from this guy. Well, I just read another article too, about, remember I brought up the NFT, the rug pulls, like, cryptocurrency, like the Fed just came out, and said they just compensated, like, I don't know, 3.6 billion in crypto, like fraud, people that have been stealing.

Wow. Yeah, it's, you know, there's this idea that, because it's on the blockchain, it's so safe, and there's, but there's just as many scammers doing that and just regular old money. Yeah, it's insane. Speaking to Instagram, I got a weird message. You're off. Well, I could find you this morning. I mean, it's insane. Speaking to Instagram, I got a weird message. You're off.

Well, I could find you this morning. I mean, apparently I went on to I went on to get on and, you know, because I'll post my memes in the morning or whatever and I get on there and it says there's business, some suspicious activity. Please confirm you're not a robot. So it was one of those picture things, you know, how many chimneys are in each, whatever. So I click on it. I could always click on too many stops. I think it finally worked. I've been trying for like I don't know probably two years now ever since you passed me So just kick me yeah, I've been like reporting you wrote every time you do a political thing I'm like report report report report. Yeah, finally take them now And then did like this confirmation thing and then I got a message that said we'll let you know in 24 hours if we've

So I don't know if I got kicked off or if someone tried to hack it and their security measures Just be careful that you don't get suckered in I know giving you password. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I verified everything. Okay. I don't fall for that Well, at least I hope not so we'll see what happens or I got finally kicked off in which case You know, do wait early like a hydra bro. You cut my head off and two more I'll make it worse. I didn't like my ex-girlfriend. I got it.

I got it. It's so crazy though, it was just yesterday the day before we were all talking like, you know, this we're gonna bounce on this whole social media thing real soon here and just exit. And I mean, with the plan was like two years, right? I feel ready to jump off the ship and burn it. Yeah, I mean, look, you know,

my force, force our hand earlier, than what we expect. Yeah, it is dude. It's just What did I call him? He's happy there What did I call him? He's the first land and our assistant hell. Yeah, everybody's just picture of me picture miserable and you know trying to keep up or you know Well, without you in defense of it. So I knew he's out there. There's some cool part. Like I, okay, being public and trying to grow it and just add followers. Okay, that for sure. But I mean, there's, I mean, it's cool that I have family and

friends that like I can go click on like I have a cousin. I love my cousin. I don't get to see her all the time. But I have the ability and she's a big poster. She posts all the time. I mean, I get to look at her story and I can see her kid. I feel like I'm getting so much more for than I did a decade ago when we just wouldn't see each other. So there's some positive stuff. For me, the value is I get to,

and it's like less than less. So this value is actually, it's losing this value because of our popularity, starting to grow in quite a bit. But I like the fact that some of our fans can contact me and I can respond and I like that. Now, it's losing its value because there's so many that I can't possibly-

Oh, I've fallen off of that. Like I remember we used to- I try and there's certain, I have people on there that- It's impossible. Have been with me from the very beginning. It's tough now, yeah. And I try to stay loyal to them and answer their questions and stuff like that.

Just, you know, kind of- By the way, so I'm glad you brought that up because I've had to reply to DMs like this. You know, before you DM or inbox or question about something like literally Google search, mind pump, and then the keywords of the question that you have that. We've probably have done it. We have.

I don't know how many times I've someone asked a question and I'm like, dude, all you had to do is go Google, mind pump, and that that question and like right away Three YouTube videos a podcast episode and a blog pop up 1800 hours. Yeah of fitness content. It's out there And that's not me trying to be a map bro I'm trying to be a dick either that's my episode. We just there's a you all of us probably get thousands of DMs There's no way to pop to get to. At least a quarter of them are like,

literally that simple of an answer. It's like you could just Google that with mind pump in front of it. And you're gonna get like a good detailed like a YouTube video or a conversation about it. The other thing too is the DM where you're giving me 15 paragraphs. Yeah, I like those ones.

Of really detailed information, you want me to construct an individualized diet or work out plan for you? I can't do that. So bring it to our live Q&A, you know? Like, get in on the action. Like that's where we get to have these like, well, it's probably your conversation. Because we don't talk about that on the show very often, it is, is if you, another place

you can leave questions. Obviously, the Instagram, mine.put media, leaving it under the quail, that's one place. And then the other thing is to email live at mine.putmedia.com. So the people that get to get on the live YouTube videos and ask their question live to us, you email there and then Jerry Random, you can do a lot better job

of answering your question. Yeah, totally. Anyway, so this morning I made another, I made the same mistake I make quite often. I took too many stimulants. You know what I did. So, you know, him be. I never have as a me.

Yeah, I know, dude. So, you know, him be is a compound. It's very interesting. It acts on the central nervous system. It's got some libido boosting benefits for some people. That's, I never noticed that. What I noticed is the energy from, especially when you stack it with caffeine.

Oh, did you try that company that's been trying to get us? So what I did was, what I did was, that I did my normal 300 milligrams of caffeine, and then I threw six milligrams, because it's got six milligrams of Yohimbi in it, and normally I'll do two and a half milligrams. Well anyway, I got this weird CNS response. So I'm sweating and getting the chills at the same time.

And I'm like, what the hell is going on? What? Like am I getting you know my sick or what's up? Yeah, so I'm like oh no, I'm like no no, this is a CNS response And I was Doug was in here while I was working out and I looked at Doug and I was like I think I might I said Doug if I die This is what I want you to tell the doctor You are so funny because the fact that you even case so The odd get the audience up to speed here.

Okay, so this company has been like literally trying so hard to get us to advertise for them. They're offering a ridiculous amount of money and saying, we'll take anything we can, blah, blah, and so I looked at it and it's like, oh, it's supposed to be for, you know, making your dick harder. So I'm like, okay, I'm interested in that. And Sal right away, like, look to the back of it, Red was in it and said, Matt, whatever, and ignored it. And so, Justin and I, okay, because we need it. We are.

Yeah, we need to. Are, are, are, yeah, intrigued by this. I mean, yeah, no problem, but quality, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that, right. So, so I took it. I took it. And then of course, so I was right You know, I did not have any better sex my erection was no better than it normally is

It was still a form of still one of 10. Yeah Just as small as it always is So but what I did know I had really sweaty sex it got me sweaty is what it did And I'm like I don't know if I like that. That's not what I'm looking for. It's a CNS stimulant. It also, I don't like to say this because people, oh crap, it's an effective, no, it's not. A great fat burner, I know people say that, but it does the chills that you get from it

is because it stimulates a response, maybe in fat to cause it to act more like brown fat. And what that does, the chills is a way to warm your body up so you get that thermogenic effect. So that's probably kind of what's happening. So weird that they're marketing it as like a, because you're like, oh, take it like a pre-workout. I'm like, come, I'm trying to take it for sex, bro.

Cause you're like, how they market it. No, him be a shone in studies to help some men with erections and stuff like that. I never got that effect from taking it out. It's a vasodilator? What is it? It's got some effects like that and something to do with the CNS and how it affects the brain. Actually, you'd be honest with you,

they don't 100% know why it works particularly for some people in this way. It actually can even some women will notice that. Did you get anything from it? You know, I haven't, you guys did. Oh, I thought you were taking it the same night I did. You guys did. I was going to and then Sal talked you out of there. You didn't say it. No, the night kind of went did. Oh, I thought you were taking it the same night I did. You guys did. I was going to and then Sal talked you out of there.

You didn't say it. No, no, the night kind of went sour. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So yeah. No, no. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. go him be at night, not probably not a good idea because it's a CNS thing, you might not sleep as well. For some people. Well, that's what you said, and I'm like, oh, that's like, I was already too late. I had already taken it when you told me not to. You're like, don't tell you for that.

I'm like, well, it's Mark, if we were gonna sell it, I said, I'm gonna sell it as like a sex performance thing. I'm not gonna sell it for a pre-workout. That's not what they're, they're probably like, one of those one out of three guys will experience this. Yeah, I don't know. I think I'll have to test it. I don't know.

I think a little caffeine will even do that for some people. Well, I was disappointed. Almost as disappointed as I was with our dinner and our lack of scallops that we had. Oh, the shit. Speaking of which, yeah, that's ridiculous. Have you guys ever gotten,

I get messages like all the time. I always forget to bring this up on the show. Do you ever get messages where people are asking you more details about butcher box? Cause you said scallops, you made me think about that. Well, butcher box got scallops. That's why I brought them up, because Katrina actually said that when we were doing it,

and I was all disappointed, she's like, I was, okay, the scallops tasted amazing. So I can't wait to do it at home myself. So she's gonna add it into our box now after we had the, because I had spent a while since I've actually made scallops. Try to make up for that. Yeah, I do it at home.

Yeah, so check this out, right? So I was able to write down some stuff about them, just to give people a better idea of, you know, kind of what to expect from birch or box. So let me pull this up here. They talk about like the different boxes and what you can expect to get out of there. Obviously, grass-fed beef is their most popular thing,

but you also have heritage raised pork. Heritage pork is taste better. A lot of people like it. Here's the, okay, so here are the beef options. There's brown beef, New York strip steaks, steak tips, chuck roast. There's surlong steaks, but then you also have things like tri-tip, which are quite often available with chicken, there's drumsticks, skinless chicken breasts. They have with the heritage pork, they have wild caught, sustainable, sourced seafood. And then as far as the boxes are concerned, they have different boxes available. Some are custom and some are not custom, and then you can get them delivered more or less frequently depending on how often.

So it's much more customizable than what a lot of people may think. You can go in there and change things and then get it. I'm really bad at that. We tend to like, I find something that we're using and then I just stay to it. I hate stateships a lot. But then I see one of you guys are dug, like posting something in there. You guys are like, oh yeah, I just want to try the pork, dude. I know.

So are you managing that or is that Jessica? No, that's too. Oh, really? Well, I mean, both of us, she'll tell me if she wants something different, but I'll not saying it. So are you managing that or is that Jessica? No, that's too. Oh really? Yeah, well, I mean, both of us, you shall tell me if you want something different, but I'll go in there and the heritage pork is, I am not a pork fan at all. I don't like pork from the grocery store. Herod, these are like traditional breed porks.

The taste is way different. It's better. It's so much more rich and flavorful than traditional pork. Traditional pork tastes like bland to me in dry. The heritage pork is not like that. No, it traditional pork traditional pork tastes like bland to me in dry their heritage pork is not like it's amazing. Yeah, so I said so I that's the main thing that I off topic But I wanted to bring it up because it was in my notes bring it up to the day and I keep forgetting about it You know right our forum loves to like you know give me the what we call the finger shoes or whatever Oh the five finger shoes

Yeah, okay, I oh I wonder if you're gonna talk about the one that has like the split just for the big toe. Yes, the Reebok. Pull up, so pull up and did see the shoes. Bro, look how ugly this is. Pull up, pull up Reebok, you know, split toe or big toe. If you go Reebok, big toe shoe, it'll pop up. It's like a ninja shoe.

A ninja shoe? Yeah, so you have like a little camera toe on your foot. Yeah, that's what it looks like. It's like a Japanese style shoe, yeah. Japanese sneakers or like slippers. Oh yeah, it's a little sock thing. Now here's a deal, it makes sense when you talk about biomechanics and movement. Of course it does, but it's ugly as fuck.

But who the hell buy shoes? Nobody is saying it's not functional or it's not good for your toes. Yeah, I'm not saying that. Nobody, everybody buys shoes. You're big toe anchors, you quite a bit. Everybody buys shoes for looks. Nobody buys it for function Look at look how freaking ugly that is. That's cool. It's a little camel toe on your foot. It is. That's weird We can do that. Is that help you climb like bamboo stalks or something? Like what's the what's that? I can wedge that in. You can grab you can grab a pencil with your foot sticks and you know That's kind of weird man. I wonder what that would feel like

if that's gonna feel more comfortable. Well, I'm probably gonna feel like footflops, but you're wearing shoes. Oh, that's kind of weird, huh? That's exactly like a footflop. Yeah, and then if you're, like, what kind of, like, friction you're gonna get there between your big toe, like,

I would imagine you get like, like, a callus inside. Yeah, it's some kind of blister. Okay, so you know what the challenge with some of this stuff is? If your feet have always been in traditional shoes, that your big toe is probably pressed up against your other toes pretty well,

that separation all at once, walking around all the time and doing stuff all the time, I wonder if people are gonna get pain. Well, because you can't just go from what you did before. I mean, I think this is a good thing, right? I know I'm bringing it up and I'm trashing it, but I think that the awareness around, so even as a trainer.

The 300 bucks, that what that says, Doug? No, look at the price of these shoes. No, I mean, that one is, but then the other one. 293. Are you serious? 293. What does it come with? An extra toe.

A shoe and laces. That's it, as far as I know. I don't even know. Now Adam wants to get one now. Hell's it. As far as I know. I don't even know. Now Adam wants to get one now. Hell no. Hell no. It's not how my taste works, but I'm just curious.

Hell no. I mean, it's a, okay. So, you know, it's actually in the CrossFit community is getting real big on the toe spreaders now. Like we were asked someone to ask that in the forum and I kind of went down the road a whole of like, we don't follow a lot of CrossFit people, so I started looking some people up.

And they're, every night, I thought where I'm from, I mean, I'm not, I think that's a lot of CrossFit people, so I started looking some people up. And they're, I mean, I don't wear them, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, I'm not, I think that's a good thing. I don't like if you do that behind closed doors, nobody sees you, good. Don't wear that shit outside. Well, I mean, no, my thing is just go barefoot. I mean, just go barefoot, work out, you know,

a couple of times a week barefoot, I think that I think you're gonna get just as much if not more benefit from doing that. Yeah, I mean, I like the minimal soul. I like having less less is more with that, but not like the split toe thing. That's weird, man. It's ugly.

Yeah, I almost want to try him on though, just to see what the, wait a minute, hold on a second, hold on a second. How the hell are you gonna wear those with socks? I haven't made it. I just thought of that right now. You gotta get special socks. You gotta get those Japanese socks.

You do, right? You'd have to, why don't I don't know. So what, you gotta get the seam that goes all the way back, you know, to the, Yeah, dude, you'd have to get special socks with that cause that's gonna feel weird. To the crease of your toe. Unless you're one of those weirdos

that wears flip flops with socks. Like me sometimes. Sometimes that way. That's in style again. No, it's not, bro. Yes it is. Flip flops with socks. That was in style when we were kids.

So when we were in high school, okay, like, Not a good not. Yes, it is. Flip flops with socks. That was that was in style when we were kids So when when we were in high school, okay, like not a good look a common all athletes that you guys didn't wear socks Would do it. Wait a whole second. Wait a minute. I'm on the toe. I would take my socks off When we were in high school, you're talking about this not flip, you're talking about the with the ball Inless your transition every every basketball She's every basketball player were on on either game day or days where we were gonna play ball that day. You wore Nike flip flops with two pairs of Nike socks tall, right? They're almost all the way up to your knees in flip flops. Yeah, but I wore the ones that had the slippers. Yeah, yeah I'm talking about wearing the flip flops where it goes in between your toe with socks. Oh, yeah, that's really

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I do when I go outside take on the garbage Don't put my shoes on like the Jesus sandals, you know, I did I bought my socks Of the Jesus sandals. Wait, you bought Berkins. I did. Why I did yeah, I did They did a they did a collaboration with Kith and I love I love Kith and they did It's a wait hold on are you saying kiss like I see it's a KIT yeah, yeah, I'm Kith and they do. Are you way hold on, are you saying Kith? I can't say K-I-T-H. Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. Look up, Doug, look up. What's your favorite, what's your favorite dog?

I'll hold on a second. I'll give you a kiss. Yeah. Would you look at Kith, please, Doug? Kith and Birkenstock collab. So, Kith Birkenstocks, they're furry too. They're so comfortable. Wait a minute.

Yeah. Not only do you wear in Birkenstock, I wear furry ones. They're furry, yeah. And you're saying Kith. But I actually wear that for that. I bought them solely for the purpose of what you just said. And so I'm, what I do, I'm really bad about this, is I keep a pair of sneakers or two by my door,

and then I smash them, because I just want to slide to take the trash out and go move the car real quick. It sucks like that. Had no idea. We can't see anything about it. I think the computer, oh, there we go. There we go. So, Kif, K-I-T. Did you oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, four, five over. This one right here? Nope, right there, yes. This one right here. Wait a minute, I gotta see you in these bro.

These are the ones. Yes, those are them. In the middle? Yeah. With the big buckles? Yep, for real. Wow. Like looking like Moses.

Adam finally doesn't care. This is really, yeah. That was, those were my first pair of burkins, those are for women by the way, but. Oh, he doesn't care. Yeah, he's, he's piece of something else is fine. Yeah, I don't like the ones that are like that. So, yeah. I tell oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my daughter home real quick because then she's got a game and then we got that call and I got a fucking manager all the shit and I'm driving at your boom. I'm like oh hell no. When I see the gauge on my tire start to go down with the air and I'm like did I just fucking blow a tire?

I had to pull over and I'm like pissed and I'm yelling and my kids are hella quiet. Anyway after I got everything taken care of and fixed and we got to buy expensive ass tires a whole thing. Your daughter says something. Yeah she's like like, man, you got really mad yet. And I'm like, damn, dude, I hate that. I hate it when my kids see me lose my shit over. Do you want inconsequential stuff? What was that? Big piece of metal? I don't know. Oh, you don't know. Just off the highway or like on the road, on the road. And it wasn't repairable because it was a big ass hole.

Yeah. Look huge. Big ass hole. Like a nailers. Screw. So pissed off. And then then I wish I tire cost for that car I didn't want to talk it. I went to do what tell me that's that's more than 200 What I had to get all the tires not just one. What do you mean? So they all match the track they all have to match and And your front and back are different sizes shut your and their high performance How much It was enough Welcome to having a nice car bro

Annoying annoying to say the least I go to wheel works guy's like, oh, I don't know if we have these. Like, what am I supposed to do if you don't have these? Like, just let the car sit here forever and say, let me see what I can do. Luckily, they located a pair that, you know, or whatever, a whole set that fit. And we do the whole thing, but I gotta fly it in for the Himalayas.

So annoying to you. Of course, I might not have a deal. So annoying. I know why. Hey, look, we're the challenges with eating to build muscle is digestion. So you're eating more protein, maybe more carbohydrates, maybe even more fats, and you're finding your little bloated, or you get gas, or you start to lose your appetite really quickly. Well, one way to remedy this is by trying digestive enzymes.

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How can we help you? I was actually, first of all, I want to appreciate, I want to tell you that I appreciate all your insight and everything your podcasts have been really very informative for me. I don't know, I can't say enough about you guys, you're fantastic. Thank you. I was actually inquiring about my ownatin inhibitors. I'm curious about there, I know I've done some research on them and I know that there are, or there's one in particular that has kind of drawn some interest with people, it's called YK11.

And I don't know a lot about myostatin, I know the antagonist is full of statin in your body and basically if you have lower myostatin and you're able to produce larger muscle mass, can you guys share any insight on that? So you want to look like one of those Whippet dogs. Yeah. Totally. Like Flex Wheeler.

Yeah. Okay. So here's what's interesting about, well, first off, this is a wonderful example of the what the supplement industry likes to do when science comes out. So years ago, there was kind of this discovery that if you, if you inhibit myostatin, and they did this pharmaceutical, or they did this genetically with animals, you get this kind of runaway muscle growth.

And there were these really dramatic pictures of mice, you know, that were, that had their myostatin inhibited or cows or dogs, and it was like, it was like a bodybuilder's wet dream. I mean, it made steroids, it made steroids look like vitamin C in terms of just how. Absolutely. It's almost like a holy grail, you know. It kind of seems that way. It's crazy. Now, here's the problem. The problem is the supplement industry saw this research, and they quickly went into how can we market supplements that will promise to do the same thing so far. Okay, now here's the truth.

Crayotein inhibits myostatin to a degree, leucine, amino acid, leucine can inhibit it to agree to a degree. Resistance training will inhibit myostatin to a degree. Anything that helps from muscle growth, will inhibit myostatin to a degree, is there anything out there legally available that will inhibit myostatin two degree. Is there anything out there legally available that will inhibit myostatin anywhere near the neighborhood of what the studies done on animals you know showed no there's nothing that comes even close to that. Now you just referred to a selective androgen receptor modulator like a research chemical.

Correct. And it really it's you know know, it's inhibition of myostatin is similar to what you'd find by taking anything that activates the Androgen receptor, like testosterone and anabolic steroid. I, my firm belief around SARMS is they're not researched very much, they're not approved for human consumption. We don't know what they do long term And if you're gonna go that route if you're gonna use something that's not approved for human use

And I'm not recommending you do this either, but if that's the direction you go You're much better off getting yourself some anabolic steroids or testosterone because they've been around forever We know what they do. We know what they don't do Sarms we're still kind of up in the air, and I have yet to see any charm that even comes close to what like testosterone would do, but besides that, really there's nothing natural on the market that's going to do it. Like I said, crad team, working out, but there's really nothing you're going to take. Naturally, it's going to do anything that's substantial.

It didn't even speculate for a while. Like there's a lot of buy-builders going to Ku anything that's substantial. Didn't we even speculate for a while, like there's a lot of Bible that's going to Kuwait and then coming back just insanely jacked? And we asked Ben Pekolsky about this, right? And he just exclaimed that they had everything dialed in like to a degree where their food was all prepped for them, their sleep was all regimented, their pharmaceutical grade testosterone was like one of the best rounds.

It was literally they just stacked everything perfectly in that environment. Yeah, I mean, again, I would stay away from any, you know, charm or anything that's really not approved. These are kind of experimental pharmaceutical drugs, drugs, some of them that people were using early on, now we're finding, oh, probably not great for your liver or can cause issues with your vision or your cancer.

So I would stay away from them. And again, if you're gonna go that route, where you're gonna start experimenting with pharmaceuticals, I mean, testosterone and anabolic steroids have been around for decades. We know what they do and what they don't do. You're better, and they're gonna give you better results. But I don't even recommend, obviously,

I don't recommend that either. As far as natural supplements are concerned, nothing's gonna do anything. Wait, are you in our mind pump hormones group by chance? Am I what? We have a, we actually have a Mind pump hormones group. Are you in that by chance? No, I'm not.

No. Okay, it's a free group. It's on Facebook. You should totally join it. There's great conversation around, Psalms and testosterone and all that stuff. Yeah, really smart people in there. Yeah, no, we have two brilliant doctors,

hormone doctors in there. So the grape, and they actually twice a month month go on and do live Q&A. We could ask them anything you want and they're answering everybody that's in the audience. So super valuable, totally free to you. I would recommend doing that. And you can also always rest assured that if there's something that that's this groundbreaking that comes out and hits the market, you'll hear it on here probably first. I mean, Sal is on every, you know, deep web black market, you know, supplement forum that exists and he's always scouring the internet for what's the latest and greatest and coming out

and he normally like a guinea pig will test himself. So we'll definitely be on the front end of anything that comes out and I promise that we'll let our audience know if anything worth Trying or taking hits the market and wait. This is a hundred percent right if a true Effective milestone inhibitor comes out like one that really inhibits milestone Not one that inhibits it kind of like you know like on like as a side effect like creatine or whatever But one that really does an effective job, we will all hear about it because it will be, Oh, absolutely.

It will make anabolic steroids obsolete. Literally, you'll see 300 pound, you know, point guards in the NBA. It will be like nothing like we've ever seen before based off of these, you know, initial animal studies. By the way, there's side effect, myostatin exists for a reason. So it's not like it'd be this panacea where you take it.

No, I build muscle, no side effects. It's probably gonna come along with its own issue. It takes like 20 years off your life, maybe, right? Or your heart gets all big too or something like that. So, hope that helps you. Right, well I do know that there is one, when they actually tested the mice that there were some issues with their tendons and bones as well.

Yeah, and the body kind of naturally regulates itself to the point where your tendons and bones can actually hold that amount of mass. Yeah, and even with anabolic steroids, you'll see people take high doses and the muscles will grow much faster than the support system. So you'll see tears and issues, and muscle tears, or tendon tears, or ligament tears, because those parts of the body take longer to build and to strengthen.

But besides that, there's other side effects, right? There's other things that we start to see down the road. But I mean, again, testosterone and anabolic, I mean, testosterone, obviously and anabolic, I mean, testosterone, obviously it's what we already produce, like some of the old school anabolic that have been around, I've been around since the 50s, 60s, you know, like they haven't really come out with any newer ones in a long time. And we know what they do and what they don't do largely because they've been around for a long time. These charms, I mean,

the one you mentioned, I don't think there's a single human study. No, there is. I did a lot of research on that. There's one other guy that did a podcast on it. It was like 18 minutes long. It was pretty extensive research, but there's really no human study at all. No. Just because some of that attaches to the Androgen receptor, and we think, oh, cool.

It's going to activate you know, attaches to the Andrews your receptor and we think, oh, cool. It's going to activate these anabolic, Andrews, you know, responses and it's going to take away the, you know, maybe the negatives are testosterone. We don't know. We don't know what they do long term. We don't know yet. So until that, until we know, I'm not going to recommend, I'm going to tell people stay away. Right.

Absolutely. I'm sorry. All right. Thanks, Wade. Thank you for calling in. Thank you. Yep. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's fun. We're doing this. We're doing this.

We're doing this. Look at all this weird, crazy stuff, but, and I get it, like, you know, I'm, this is coming from me. But, you know, be careful because you don't want to, I remember there's one, so I don't remember the name of the song. I forgot what it was, but I remember people were writing in the forums, this one I was reading about. I mean, years ago when they first came out and people were like, yeah, it's really cool.

But after about six weeks, you start to lose. I could lose. No, like you start to lose your night vision at night. It's harder to see. I'm like, what the hell? That's not good. Yeah, but I gained five pounds of muscle. Oh, yeah.

If you can't see it, who cares? You know what I mean? Yeah, no, it's, you know, it's, uh, it's songs that are like soup, I mean, they've been popular since we've been talking about it, right? Like I mean, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it popular synthetic like cannabinoid remember like spice or whatever. Oh yeah. And then kids were overdosing and shit like you can't overdose on weed. But why because it was legal. You know, because farms are available online. Yeah. That's why they're popular because they don't even do it to Stasfer and does they do when you come close. The only reason why people are using them is because they're afraid to go buy black market and a ball. And that's the part that's so funny. I

mean I get it though because I was a, I was a young 20 year old kid who was thought the same thing too. Like I was willing to take every experimental thing as long as it wasn't steroids. Yeah. Then I could say I didn't, I'd never touch steroids and never touch steroids.

But it's like, I'm trying all this other stuff. I just did all the rejects. Yeah, all the, all the stuff that's as dangerous, made potentially more dangerous. And they sell you on the idea that they're not. And so it's like, oh man. Bro, that mentality is why I use like super troll, meth or master, like all these pro hormones,

turn out to be designer steroids. So it's like, waste of time, right. Our next caller is Christian from Nebraska. Christian, what's happening? How can I help you? Hey, Sal, Adam and Justin and Doug, great to be on the show. Thank you for taking my question, which is when will the map shake weight program finally drop?

Adam keeps trying to sell us. He's like, this created a long time ago. This is for him to be huge because of it. So anyways, I'll try to keep this short. So I'm just going to give you all the information up front and then let it ride from there. So I'm a 28 year old male, around 1665 pounds, 5'9, remained between 8 to 11% body fat. I'm a lifelong lifter, I've always loved lifting weights and doing physically strenuous activities.

I currently feel in pretty good shape and fairly strong for my size, but I have hit a lifting plateau for the past six to twelve months and have been trying to bulk to put on more muscle. I find myself running into a few issues, so here are my questions. First is tips for increase in appetite. I'm tracking and trying to hit 3,000 plus calories a day with 160, 180 grams of protein. I'm solid for three to five days in a row, but then my appetite drops off and I essentially do a fast, which basically makes that whole weekend up in ematements. Question two, is there any case for purposely slowing down your metabolism to enter a bulk? I currently need to eat 3000 calories to gain muscle

and it would be nice if I could still down my metabolism and build muscle off of 25 or 2600 calories, but I recognize many people would love to have a metabolism as fast as mine. So maybe that's short-sighted of me. Question three, I noticed my macros and calories are a lot harder to hit when my protein intake is high. Is there an argument for going lighter on protein during a bulk? Maybe a 140 to 150 grams for me and increasing my carbs and fat to help give me a better

chance of sustaining calorie surplus since I won't feel so satiated. And then lastly, just some additional context. I work at a manning job in energy technology sales and provide for my family. My oldest is a little bit older than Maximus and my youngest is a little younger than Aralius. So stress level is in sleep could probably be a little bit better. So I'm sure Sal and Adam can testify too. I currently lived in the morning between 5 and 7 a.m. before my girls wake up. I've been training in two to leave the past six months but recently started maps and a ballic and reverse order. And not a question but if you have any good

YouTube videos or resources with tips for making macro tracking less time consuming for busy parents and professionals like me that would also be really cool. And there that's the end. Was that Was that fast enough? Yeah, that's really all I already forgot. No, okay. I'll start with the first one. It's all right. Listen, eating more at 3000 plus count really hard.

I know what that feels like. So it's very difficult. The best piece of advice I could give you, aside from, and you're following maps and a ball, because I was gonna say, look at your workout programming, but obviously that's good. Drink more calories. So try giving yourself a shake in between meals or one before bed, an easy way to get next to 500 calories.

That would be the best thing I think that might help. The second part about slowing down your metabolism, the short answer is no. You could lose muscle, that would slow your metabolism down, but that's the opposite of what you want. So, you're in a bit of a tough situation. I guess you could look forward to the fact that you'll get older and that might slow down your metabolism a little bit.

But it's a challenging thing when you're dealing with the faster metabolism. I know there's a lot of people listening right now on their shoe at their TV screen because they're dealing with the opposite issue. But when you go to cuts, that's the benefit there. So you're gonna have the grasses issue. You're gonna go to cuts, like, you know, that's the benefit there. So you're gonna have like that, the grass is greener kind of a thing.

And then he did bring up a good potential strategy though, as far as reducing his protein intake, it sounds like you're probably more like one and a half per pound of body weight. Yeah, that was a third part, right? And yes, there is. There's a case, so higher protein is more important when you're in a deficit than it is when you're in a surplus. Right. When you're in a deficit, so higher protein is more important when you're in a deficit than it is when you're in a surplus.

When you're in a deficit, a higher protein diet is obviously more satiating, so it helps with that, but it's also muscle sparing. And obviously one of the issues with dieting is that you might lose some muscle. As your carbohydrates fats and calories go up, you don't need as much protein. And so in other words, if you let's say,

what was your body weight, 100 and what you said? 160 to 165. Okay, so 160 to 165, you could eat a hundred and probably a hundred calories, a hundred grams of protein or 120 grams of protein and eat more carbs and fats if those are more palatable and allow you to eat more calories and you'll be okay. If your calories are low and you're in a cut, that's when you wanna make sure the protein is really high. But you don't need to eat a one-to-one when your calories are that high for the most part. Now, I would bet that you probably start to pack on a little bit of mass if you did

what I just said, because it'll help you with the caloric intake part, because protein really does hammer the appetite. I wanna add to that strategy too. So this was a big struggle of for most of for sure my 20s One of the mistakes that I I would make is because I knew that I needed more calories and I was always struggling to get more calories I'd always like lean towards these like high calorie meals and a lot of times I was piling on some garbage in there and then that would actually end up satiating me like for four or five hours at a time

I found that when I and then that would actually end up satiating me for four or five hours at a time. I found that when I ate on the leaner side earlier, that my body would actually digest the food, process it, and then use it quicker, and then I was ready to eat again. Whereas if I were to eat something that was really heavy or higher calorie, it would end up satiating me for a longer period of time.

So actually eating leaner foods earlier in the day and then allowing me to pile on the higher fat, higher protein meals towards the back half of the day if that makes sense. That helped me a lot by doing that. Yeah. It's digestion. I'm glad you said that Adam. If you're eating foods that you're making you a little bloated or lethargic, that's going to hurt a lot.

So the more calories I eat, the more I need to pay attention to digestibility. If I'm trying to bulk, I want to eat foods that are really easy to digest, because otherwise I'm gonna screw myself as the day goes on like that. And that's probably a better way to say that what I said. It's not so much, like quote unquote, leaner foods.

It's food like rice's and like chicken. My body can like tear through that. If I was eating rice and you know, ground turkey or chicken, I felt like I could eat a quick 500 calories and then I was ready to eat in an hour again. Whereas if I had like a real heavy, you know, bacon or steak and something type of breakfast with my eggs, like then I didn't want to eat till noon or one,

where if I ate something on the lighter side, easy for me to digest, I was ready to eat that next meal again. And so that was a major strategy that helped me continue to scale my calories. And then with the shakes, like, make sure you eat dinner, let's say by, you know, try to eat dinner by six o'clock. Let's say you go to bed at 10 at eight o'clock, I would drink a high calorie shake. It's a lot easier to get down, get a shake down than to get food down, especially at the end of the day. And that was something I used to do back in the day because it was just a lot easier.

So I understand your challenge. I know a lot of people again are listening or like screw this guy, but it could be really hard when you're trying to put on size and you're just burning through it. Well, the other thing that helped a lot, and it sounds like you're already doing it now, the mistake I was making when I was younger was also training six, seven days a week. My thought process was the more I left, the harder I trained, the more muscles I could build,

one of the biggest summers I ever had as far as packing on muscle, was the year that I decided to back away off the amount of training I was doing and scale it back to three days a week Which was scary for me at first. I thought oh my god if I'm gonna cut my training in half I'm gonna lose all this muscle the opposite was true in fact I needed that probably that break from it because my body was just having a hard time keeping up with all the training and Movement I just it allowed me to not have to eat as many calories to put on mass and size plus gave me ample recovery time. So I was actually building, instead of constantly

breaking down. So that was another pivotal moment. So if you're just now starting an abolic, hopefully you see those benefits too. And I don't know what your training looked like before that. Yeah, I definitely, you know, had that worry when I first went to anabolic the first time I did it. I was kind of nervous about cutting my training in half and doing three foundational days, but I actually responded pretty well to it. I think I was overtraining a bit. So the past few years following maps, Annabalak, Math Performance, Math Strong have really

increased my performance overall. So I love the programming that you guys do. And it sounds counterintuitive, especially for people like me that just like to keep going. But that was probably the best thing for me to have those foundational days and then focus on priming and trigger sessions on my off days. So yeah, thank you for that. And then Sal, you brought up the digestive things. And that's something I was thinking about too. And I was, I just ordered some mass dimes. So I think I'm going to try, try to give that a shot and see if that helps with my

Digestion and maybe I will hit 3000 calories and won't feel so won't, won't lose my appetite after three to five days If I'm using something like that so I'm gonna give that a try to yeah I like to with the with the mass dimes. I'll do like one as I start eating and then one halfway through my meal Okay, I'll notice a difference for sure Cool All right, cool, thanks for calling in man. Yeah, I'll notice a difference for sure. Cool. All right. Cool. Thanks for calling in, man. Yeah. Hey, just real quick. I've been listening to your show for four years because some

asshole at the gym I used to go to didn't have headphones and forced everyone in the locker room to listen to your show each morning. Hey, uh, asshole. I like it. But now I'm hooked and grateful for it.

So the fitness information is obviously great, but it's also cool to fall along with the parenting stuff since I'm on a similar for it. So the fitness information is obviously great, but it's also cool to fall along with the parenting stuff since I'm on a similar timeline with Stalin at him. So your tips and commentary have definitely improved my overall quality of life. And just thank you for everything guys. Thank you, man.

Thank you, Chris. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, have a good day. Bye. Yeah, it's funny. When people talk about this, you know there's like 90% of the audience is like rolling their eyes. Oh, it's hard for you to get in with.

I used to hate that. You people give you, I mean, listen, the grass is always on the other side. You know what I'm saying? There's advantages and disadvantages for both sides. Yep. So it's like, I remember when Pekolsky blew my mind with that. I remember we sat down. He's a pro bodybuilder.

It was massive back in the day. And I'm like, man, pro bodybuilders have this incredible digestion to be able to eat 10,000 calories a day to get big. He goes, no, it's the opposite. Pro bodybuilders can eat very little and gain lots of muscle. And then of course, of course, I blew my mind. I'm doing that right now.

I'm trying to eat over 3,500 calories a day. And it's hard, it sucks. And you know what the biggest issue is, if I get to like noon or one, and I'm behind the eight ball, forget about it. It's not gonna happen now, because now I got a little, what am I. And you know what the biggest issue is, if I get to like noon or one, and I'm behind the eight ball, forget about it. It's not gonna happen now, because now I gotta, what am I gonna, you know, stuff. Well, that was another piece of advice we didn't give him

that I always give when I'm talking to a hard day. I don't know what you're having the morning on. It's so important to get ahead, to get ahead of what you need, because otherwise you're playing catch up and then you're stuffing yourself right before bed, which is not ideal for sleep. And so that was key.

Like I always knew that, you know, depending on where my clerk can take was, I had always set like noon time goals. Like, okay, my goal is to be at this many calories and this much protein by this time. I knew if I would hit that, that the rest of the day would go well, if I was behind it a lot of times it'd be fun.

By the way, if you wanted to try the mass times I was talking about, you go to mindpumpartners.com and then you click on bio optimizers mass times and then there's a discount code there for you. Our next caller is Carlos from Georgia. Carlos what's happening? How can we help you?

Hey, how's it going guys? I just wanted to say thank you, finding your podcast has helped me kind of put some filters and wait through a lot of the BS that's out there. So thanks. Cool. Yeah, I'm a relatively recent listener about a year ago as I started after I started myself, you know, I was a pretty big guy back in 2018, changed the lifestyle, lost 75 kilos more or less.

Kilos? That's like 160, 170 pounds. Yeah, a whole person. Wow. Great job, dude. Congratulations, incredible. Thank you, thank you. And I never quite followed a program.

I worked for a trainer for a very little time, just to get started with Jim, because I had never done that. I've never been athletic. So our first few months I worked with a trainer, and then I kind of took it on my own and just bought aesthetics because I wanted to follow a program for the first time with a real structured world-done program, not just me going in and saying, okay, I'm going to do dead

less today and then I'll try and compliment that as best I can. So my main thing is I want to know how to eat because I got great uh, losing weight, you know, by being in a deficit. Um, I have no idea how to do the reverse, uh, not without like the last time I try to do a even a little bulk, I ended up putting all body fat, serum muscle, and I'll be honest, I'm terrified of being that guy again, you know, being 30% body fat. That's a big insecurity of mine, ideal with it every day. So any tips you can give me to a, get started

on that first program with the right foot, and be keep my nutrition doing well. You know, I eat all organic now, keep the trash out. Eat pretty well. I just wanna make sure I keep it consistent when I'm doing a blow for the first time. Yeah, man. Well, first off, great job, dude. That's a tremendous amount of way to lose. It's a very, very challenging struggle. I want to comment, too, on your fear of going back to, you know, how you were before.

I, first of all, I understand that, but I do want you to also understand that that fear is going to prevent you from doing what you need to do to continue to move forward. I had a very similar fear of being skinny and so prevented me from doing things that I could have learned from with my body. I figured it out later on as I got older. I don't have the same fear I had before so now I can manipulate diet and training in ways that are more beneficial versus what I used to do, which was constant bulk and constant fear of losing even a single pound on the scale. So consider that, okay. If you want to, you got to revert,

in order to reverse out of it, first off, you have to have a good workout program and send the right muscle building signal. Maps aesthetic is good, it's high volume though. And a lot of people jump to that first. And I would say that maps and a ball it because probably more appropriate for more people. Not saying aesthetic is inappropriate, it's just a lot of volume.

It's a very high volume program. Well, it's also not ideal for what is goal is. Actually. So if I can use some context, could you translate that? Hold on one second, Carlos, you're breaking up. Yeah, we have that word. You just froze there. Could you start from the beginning of what you're saying there?

Oh, yeah, I lost you guys too. So I was just saying for context. I did start the whole journey in 2018 ever since though. I pretty much became a gym rat. You know, like I said, I don't follow a program, but I do go six days a week. Actually, when I was going through maps and a ball like maps aesthetic, one of the things that attracted me to you guys' program was, hey, this is actually less volume than I'm gonna do right now. Because right now I'm spending two and a half, three hours of the gym and that's sometimes I'm not even doing cardio, it's just all day weights. So one thing I've learned from listening to y'all is maybe I need to step back, give my body some chance to recover, build some muscle, and then come back. And I thought,

hey, doing three sessions, heavy sessions, and then in between doing those, you know, focus sessions, and being a little easier on my body might be what I need as opposed to, because I went off the deep end at some point. And like after I lost all that weight, I got so excited with what I could do now that I was doing, you know, Orange Theory Fitness in the morning, yoga at night, weights in between. I went way too hard and I stepped it back, but then I got myself doing the same thing again, but with all weights now. Carlos, your intuition is right, bro. Your intuition is right, and Sal is even more right with what he said first to you, which is the thing that's going to keep you from progressing is that exact fear of you're going

to go back to being where you were before. And you need to, you're not going to, okay? You've definitely got way better habits. You already have a way better understanding around eating in a Chloric deficit and strength training. But there are some things that you need to start moving towards if you really want to break this plateau. You've got to kind of trust the process.

The first step, we're going to send you maps and a block for free. You need to get over to that program. It's even less volume than maps aesthetic. It's only three days a week of strength training, which should only take you about an hour and you should be out of that gym and the reason why this is so important is Part of what we need to do with you right now is to build your metabolism up and that's the reason why you're at this hard plateau right now is you've done an incredible job getting there and the only real answer to Continuing to lose more weight is is from your perspective right now,

is creating a bigger calorie deficit, which would mean training longer and more and or eating less. And I'm assuming you're probably already pretty low calorie right now, and that's not where we wanna be. Someone your size should be able to eat in the mid 2000s comfortably, maybe even higher. And so that should be our goal right now is to slowly increase calories and get you to

a point and part of what's gonna happen as soon as you switch from low cow moving like crazy to moving less and more calories, weight's gonna come on at first and you gotta be okay with a few pounds coming on at first because the long-term goal is that we speed this metabolism up and then come back down the other direction. Otherwise, you're gonna get caught in this nasty rut of the going like crazy just to lose a few pounds and you fall off of it and you gain back that weight and you keep yo-yoing back and forth.

Yeah, aesthetics might have been a lower amount of volume that we were doing before, but it's still probably too much for what you're trying to do and where you're coming from. So here's a deal. You don't even have to bump your calories yet. Just go do maps and a ball, keep your calories the same. That should start to get things moving. And then slowly, like 50 more calories a day, try that out for a week or two. Get them in the form too.

And 50 more after that, and then do that for a week or two. And then slowly build it up with maps and a ball. And then you'll see your strength gains go up as you strength that's better. That's the best sign you could see that you're moving in the right direction. We're going to put you in the forum to Carlos's I'd like to follow along with your journey. That way when you're feeling like afraid or down you can tag one of us and we can get you back on track.

Yeah, because this is a major, this is a, I don't know, I would say between the three of us, this is probably one of the most common clients that we would handle. Like this is very common. So when the situation just like yourself, and I know firsthand how hard that mental hurdle is to get through, the things, years of the break, that's right. So use that forum, make sure you tag us, make sure you talk to us every time you're questioning anything you hear or what you're potentially doing, allow us to kind of help you work through that, because what you need to do is probably gonna be really

difficult for you right now because of that fear, but we gotta get past that if we're really gonna help you and get to a place where you can intuitively eat, intuitively train and feel very Satisfied with the calories you're eating and not feel like you're hammering your body six seven days a week just to maintain where you're at Got you understand all right all right, all right Carlos. It's gonna be tough, dude But you're you're you're totally on the right track We just got to move you in a little bit better more productive

Direction we got you buddy. You just hang you just make sure you talk to us in the form track, we just got to move you in a little bit better, more productive direction. We got you, buddy. You just make sure you talk to us in the form. Yeah, absolutely. Just, can I recap real quick? So I'll start on out of the ball, like, no problem. Keep calories the same. Maybe go 50, what, every week, every other week?

I would go, just go 50 up, wait and see how your body weight does. As it stabilizes and you feel good, then you can go up another 50. You can go as slow as you want. And keep it 10,000 steps or so. That's fine. No, no, that's perfect. All right, perfect. Thank you so much.

Carlos, you want to throw a yoga in there or you want to throw a stretching mobility? Half phone with it. Half phone with it. I mean, yeah, I kind of have to because I'm getting certified as a teacher, but. Yeah. Good for you, man.

Well, there you go. Yeah, stuff like that is totally fine. Okay, cool. Appreciate it guys. So much. All right, man, we'll see you on the inside. Oh, boy, that fear of going back to where you were before, that is a very nasty driver.

It definitely prevented me from learning a lot for a long time. Well, I mean, that's the thing. You lose all this weight and it took so much effort to get there and it's like, you just get so excited that you get to this place that you want to keep adding, adding, adding. I had a handful of clients like this. It would take a long time to get them out of that mentality

that you didn't have to keep adding all of these things and all these extra activities to be able to stave off that weight that was looming in their mind. Adding all of these things and all these extra activities to be able to Stave off that You know that that weight that was the looming in their mind. I really hope that he stays in contact with us in the forum because Same where he's at right now is you taught you do you hear we said orange theory in the morning plus two hour Way training routines and then you'll get night. Yeah, this that is that is and I'm a so we didn't even ask It's a lot. I don't know if he's counted his calories, but I can guess that he's probably really low on the calorie intake in order to have lose lost that much weight over

the last and with all that activity. Yeah, you know, Justin, you you played at a pretty high level with football. Is there a difference when you're playing the game to not lose versus playing the game to win? Oh, 100%. Yeah. So when you get stuck in this state of mind, you're playing the game to not lose versus playing the game to win. Oh, 100%. Yeah, so when you get stuck in this state of mind, you're not doing it to progress. Revent defense. Yeah, you're doing it just a fear of going back.

And boy, does that change the strategy and change your behaviors, you know, and in ways that are not beneficial. Our next caller is Alexis from New Jersey. Hey, Alexis, what's happening? How can I help you? Hey, guys, how are you? Good good. I just want to thank you so much for all of the advice we put out especially helping me a college student navigate the fitness world. It's very helpful. So just to start off, I am in college. I'm also an Air Force ROTC, which is basically a program that allows

university students to commission as officers in the Air Force, and with that we do have physical training requirements to follow. So the fitness test is one and half mile run along pushups and sit-ups, and throughout the years I've been able to follow maps, power lift, aesthetic, and now strong, while only running like a mile and a half each week to make sure that I can still perform very well on the assessment. But this semester, they're changing the requirements.

And I will have to attend two in-person training sessions, which is 20 minutes of running, 20 minutes of calisthenics, and 20 minutes of like a warm-up and cool-down. So that's twice a week in addition to working out on my own and those workouts on my own, I have to run at least a mile alone. So my main goal though, for this year or the next several years however long it takes is to be able to squat 200 pounds beltless

for six sets and four reps. And I can currently do that with 155 pounds and the reason why it's so specific is because I'm currently running Map Strong the third phase. I've been in it quite a while so I'm kind of happy with that range and that those amount of sets so that's why I have that goal so specific but basically my major question is how would I transition from map strong into a different program while still accounting for these new PT requirements and still being able to achieve my goal of

squatting 200 pounds? Is the PT requirements, let me make sure I got this right, you it's a for now on you're going to have two times a week consistently for an hour that you have to follow their routine or is this just a test or one time you have to go do that? It's going to be from here on out. Okay. You know what? Here, do this Alexis. Follow maps and a ball at the two foundational workouts a week and then do the other two workouts or the ones that you're doing with your group. That you should see some good strength gains

transitioning that way. It's less volume, but you're also doing the other workouts with everybody. So in Maps and Obolic, there's an option to do two foundational workouts a week. I would follow that along with what you're doing, and I bet you would see some strength gains doing that. I see.

My other concern is that I don't think that these PT sessions are going to be as intense because they're like made to fit the average like college student and like I often find them not challenging because I did them in the past like the optional ones. So I don't know like will that, even though I'll significantly decrease the volume and these new exercises aren't really that challenging, like, will that kind of end or any progress because I'm so used to training more and, like, lifting heavier? Maybe, but usually not. Usually the reduction in volume is what people need, but try it out.

I would say try out what I just said. If you don't see some good strength gains within the first three weeks, and you feel like, I'm not doing enough, try adding a third foundational work out. Yeah, that's a perfect way to measure this. Start off low, be honest with yourself, be consistently tracking for three weeks, making sure you're either staying strong

or getting stronger. And if you're not, you can try adding a day. I would just be worried about adding the third day because it doesn't feel like you're being challenged, weight-wise, but you're still training for an hour. Yeah, right. It's a lot of activity that will accumulate. And I would think, too, like, so besides those two days, you have volume, but also you have intensity, so you could gauge those workouts in terms of how much intensity you could also

then crank up a bit to provide you with adequate stimulus. You could also do like, none of the programs are written specifically like this, but here's where I would potentially modify for a client like yours. Maybe you do have those two workout sessions and maybe the intensity is really low and it's pretty easy. Then maybe one of those days we also practice squats. We don't go really heavy but since our goal is to get better at the squat and you

want to increase it, maybe you and I have a technique day. So I'm following MAP Santa Balli to a two days a week but then if it's one of those weeks where it felt like oh those routines were really easy, it didn't feel like it taxed my body at all. 65 pounds on the bar. That's right. That's right. Do five sets of real lightweight and just work on your feet, grip on the floor and your posture and coming out of the hole and just technique stuff. So that will benefit you getting stronger in the squat by itself.

So you and just use that based off of how you feel from the other routines. Got it. And should I keep my, I listen like them out of calories and grams of protein that I'm currently eating. Should I change anything diet-wise? I don't see that in the question, but how many grams of protein are you eating a day? And what's your body weight? So I weigh between 97 and 100 pounds. And I eat between 90 to 110 grams of protein each day.

Well, damn, you're squatting 150? Yeah, that's good. That's impressive. You're really strong. What do your total calories look like? It depends, I would say, 1,600 to 1,800, but usually in the middle of that. Okay. Pretty good calories. Okay, pretty good.

Yeah, that's not bad. I mean, you could try bumping your calories a little bit to see if that helps. You're pretty leaned, are you trying to get leaner? Are you okay with that? You just want to get stronger. Yeah, I'm okay with where I am. I'm just like sit on that to bend your pounds.

Oh, dude. Bump your calories a little bit. Yeah. Throw your calories. Just see if you can hit like closer to 1800 more consistently and in combination with what we just said, that should be a nice waiting formula for increased strength. Got it. We'll do.

All right. Well, thanks for calling in Alexis. And if you don't have maps in a bottle, we'll send that over to you. Oh, yes. I don't. I really appreciate that. Nope. No problem. Awesome. Good luck with school, huh? Yep.

Thank you so much. No problem. Thanks guys. Yeah, the, uh, it's always challenging when, you know, you're doing so much volume and it's challenging to cut it down because the mentality is always, well, if I do last, that means I'm going to get less results. Oftentimes it's the opposite. You do last and you get better results. I know it sounds crazy, but, uh, I would say eight at a 10 times with very consistent people who work out all time That that's the direction they need to go. Well, when you have a specific goal like this to where you want to get stronger

Specifically at the squat. There's other things that we can do. That's not a full workout too. I mean She can do things you can add to those Calistemic days that are that are probably Lower to moderate intensity days for her and just practice squatting or doing, using prime and working on mobility stuff if she has anything's going on with that. We always look at training as like this, like this 50, 60 minute window of these intense lifts

all the time, but it's like there's a lot of things when you have goals like this that you can do to compliment your training without taxing the body so much. Totally. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our guides. We have guides that can help you

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