Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1753: What to Do on Active Rest Days, Exercises That Grow Big Traps, the Healthiest Choice of Alcohol & More

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best things to do when taking an active rest day, ways to grow the shoulders and back without the traps getting too big, the best way to attract someone into fitness when they seemingly don’t care, and the “healthiest” choice for alcohol. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Do you want a more youthful hormone profile? Tell your body to build muscle. (3:45) Mind Pump reaches a milestone with their recent trip to Florida. (12:51) The story behind Adam's dirty banana drink. (26:20) Sal shares the latest “father/daughter” adventure day. (30:54) Is Sal off Instagram for good?! (34:45) Mind Pump’s favorite Super Bowl commercials. (37:35) The latest on Sal’s product creation with Organifi. (42:58) Creatine, the next BIG health & wellness longevity supplement. (45:00) Was this the most expensive Super Bowl ever?! (46:39) Defining the laws of physics with the latest advancements in nuclear fusion. (52:59) How Caldera Lab’s face serum can help reduce inflammation. (57:29) Liquid Death makes an appearance during the Super Bowl. (59:51) #Quah question #1 - What are the best things to do when taking an active rest day? (1:01:52) #Quah question #2 - Is there a way to grow the shoulders and back without the traps getting too big? (1:11:46) #Quah question #3 - What’s the best way to attract someone into fitness when they seemingly don’t care? (1:16:40) #Quah question #4 - What’s the “healthiest” choice for alcohol? (1:19:42) Related Links/Products Mentioned February Promotion: MAPS Performance and MAPS Aesthetic 50% off!! **Promo code “FEB50” at checkout** MP Hormones Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum How will we feed the next billion? - Tony Robbins Life Force by Tony Robbins Super Bowl Commercials 2022 Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout** 2022 Super Bowl sets new record as average fan spend hits US$167.37 Scientists create sun on Earth with nuclear fusion – then holds it for 5 seconds E67: Revisiting Rogan, Canadian truckers' protest, fusion breakthrough, $MSFT's savvy move & more Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Judas Priest’s “Breaking the Law” Soundtracks Liquid Death Super Bowl Commercial: Watch Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1752: How To Stretch For Gains Why Can’t I Feel the Right Muscles Working? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1712: How To Get A Friend Or Family Member Started With Resistance Training Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Nick Bare (@nickbarefitness)  Instagram Tony Robbins (@tonyrobbins)  Instagram David Friedberg (@friedberg)  Twitter

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right? Today's episode we answered some questions that were asked by our audience. That's the back half of the episode. So we talk about fitness and health

and got through some of their coaching questions. But the way we open the episode is with an intro portion where we talk about current events and scientific studies and we talk about some of our sponsors. Today's intro was 56 minutes long. After that we got to the question. So here's what went down in today's episode. First off, we opened up by talking about how

one of the most effective ways I should say that you can give yourself a more youthful, hormone profile. Then we talked about visiting Tony Robbins in his home to interview him and that was insane. Then we talked about Adam's dirty banana drink. I guess it's a, not his dirty banana, but rather his drink. Then we talked about the father daughter day that I had with my daughter the day after coming back from Florida. That was a lot of fun. I talked about how I got kicked off Instagram. Don't know why, but it's probably the lizard people. That's probably the reason. Thanks Justin. Then we talked about some of the Super Bowl commercials and what some of our favorites were. I talked about how I'm working with Organifi to develop a new product. Organifi

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LiquidDeath on the Super Bowl. Then we got to the questions. Here's the first one that we answered. What are the best things to do when you're taking an active rest day? The next question, this person wants to know how to develop their shoulders without over-developing their traps. The third question, this person wants to know the best way to get someone into fitness, when it looks like they don't care about fitness. And in the final question, this person wants to know

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because obviously I wrote with the book that I wrote, the resistance training revolution. One of the things that people find the most fascinating is the effects that strength training has on your hormones. Now studies will show that it consistently raises testosterone and men balance out estrogen progesterone women. You get a nice insulin response growth hormone.

Cortisol becomes healthier response. What it does is it looks like the kind of youthful hormone profile that everybody's after. So the question's always like, why does strength training do that? And it's because when you send a signal to your body to build muscle, that's the step before the muscle building actually happens. Your body's telling your hormones

organize themselves in a way to build muscle. And so it looks like a youthful hormone profile. So the second question is, why do we have that hormone profile when we're youthful? Your body's building and growing when you're youthful. Now, is this in the context of you're doing all the right things to build muscle for you to have this youthful type hormone profile, or is it just simply,

if I am training to send a muscle building signal to my body, IE lifting weights, I'm gonna get the benefits of that. Don't you still have to have all the other? Well, you have to have everything in alignment in order to be effective in building. Yeah, I mean, you can send a allowed muscle building signal and get no sleep.

Right, that's my point. So it's not like, hey, all you have to do is go lift weights. No, but it is the key, right? Because when your body says, What's a big rock of the... Yeah, because when it says, when it's like, Okay, we need to build muscle. What it does is it starts to organize its hormones

in a way to do that. And so that's why you see this raise of testosterone. You know, the other thing you see in men, which is I think even more important than the testosterone raising, is the up regulation of Androgen receptors, right? So these are the receptors that testosterone attaches to. In studies, they show that it's not so much testosterone levels that will dictate how much

strength and muscle a man will build, but rather how many Androgen Receptors they have. So like a guy with high testosterone with low Androgen Receptor density, is he going to do as well as he got with lower testosterone, with more angiogen receptors. So when you lift weights, your body opens up more of these angiogen receptors, making it more sensitive to testosterone. Why again? Because your body's like, okay, we need strength,

we need muscle. Let's organize things in a way to promote that. And the only time in your life, one of the only times in your life, when this just happens for you, is when you're a teenager, when you're growing, like, you go from the age of like 15 to 19, if you're a guy, you don't need to lift weights to build muscle, just kind of starts to happen. Now, is it always beneficial to have more energy and receptors, or is there some time, is there, is there,

is there some time to draw back to that? Is it all positive? Having more? If it's natural, if it's natural, yes. Of course, I'm assuming there could be an extreme case, but I'm not aware of what that would look like. But what that would mean is more drive, motivation, energy, fat loss, muscle building, you'd have better insulin sensitivity, so lower risk of things like diabetes,

lower rates of dementia and Alzheimer's, which this has all been connected to. And then in women, by the way, we talk about testosterone, we always talk about men. testosterone plays a very important role in women as well. And of course their bodies have much less of it,

but low testosterone of women causes the same effects that you see in men. Low libido, low drive, higher body fat, less muscle, less energy. So these beneficial effects from testosterone happen for women as well. Now what's not gonna happen for women, is their testosterone levels aren't gonna go so high

that they get masculineizing effects. That's not gonna happen from lifting weights. It stays within the kind of healthy range or whatever. Yeah, I just think in terms of muscle building being the fountain of youth, when you look at the gym and you see somebody older with a decent amount of healthy, range or whatever. Yeah, I just think like in terms of like muscle building being the fountain of youth, when you look at the gym and you see like somebody older with like a decent amount of muscle, you could see it all the way from like the youthfulness

and their skin too as well. It seems like, you know, not only are they strong and able body and their movement and everything looks, you know, more youthful, but also it seems to carry over into, you know, the other systems. You said fountain of youth, it's 100%. If you're older, okay, when I was a trainer towards the end of my career, I started really,

I got a lot of clients that were in advanced age. And yes, if you improve your health generally and you're older, you're gonna see improvements in age-related disease and chronic pain loss stuff. But man, strength training, there was nothing. There was nothing that I could do like getting them a little stronger, build more muscle that would have more of a positive impact.

It was dramatic, the impact that, adding four pounds of muscle on a 65 year old was like, we would instantly see, blood sugar better, we would instantly see blood lipids get better, hormone levels better. They feel totally different. It was overall look is so different than say somebody who's just been driving the cardio button the whole time, too,

with the oxidative stress and like what that does, to their skin and their youthfulness. Now how much of this do you think is attributed to the actual muscle that they end up building and how much of it is based off the behaviors that they put in place in order to build that muscle. Right, because if you are adding forward a 10 pounds of muscle on your body, there's some things that you're doing right. Like you're eating adequate protein, you're probably getting enough rest and recovery, you're lifting weights consistently.

So I wonder how much of the healthy hormone profile that you see is directly attributed to the actual process of building muscle or it's also connected to a lot of the behaviors that are in place in order to do that. It's both, but in, there's interesting studies done on, for example, on the severely obese where they'll have them gain a little bit of muscle and you'll see these really wonderful improvements in insulin resistance. In older men with low testosterone, they give them testosterone shots, right?

To get their levels up to a better, you know, healthier, higher range within range. No, they don't work out, they're not doing anything else. All they did was send a hormone signal to build muscle. And what do you see? You know, reduce risk of diabetes. They gain a little bit of muscle. They start to burn more body fat.

You see improved cognition, better blood flow, all those different things, from the muscle that comes from the testosterone signal. So it's both, it's definitely both. But as you get older, one of the interesting thing that happens that is really starting now get connected to age-related disease and chronic illness is just the loss of muscle which then is loss of bone and you see all these terrible effects.

So yeah, if you want younger hormone profiles, get your body set up to build muscle. As it does it, it shifts everything in that direction. I can't think of a more effective single thing you could do. That's gonna do that for you. That's natural. You don't need to take exosciently or whatever. So yeah, it's one of those things that nobody talks about really.

Because we compare like exercise benefits, different forms of exercise, but the hormone changes that you get from strength training are head and shoulders superior to when you compare head to head right to other forms of exercise. Yeah, that's pretty cool. How was your trip over to Austin? Oh, it was great man. It was really really cool. So I went over there on my way to obviously we all went to Florida. Yeah. And I met with Nick there. Yeah, Nick Bear, his pot, great guy.

Great group of people. How do you feel you were gonna like him? Really, really cool guy. He showed me his warehouse with the, you know, the company's been crushing and just started right as I was beating the subs. No, he's a big writer guy. So this was the one, the one peering guy.

I was really interested because I know he's ultra marathon and he marathon guy like so. I know, he's all of it. He started out hardcore bodybuilding. Oh. Yeah. And then he got into some of these like, not, you know, endurance stuff,

but more so, it's like testing your will type of stuff. That's what he likes to do, like a Joe Dacina. Yeah, you know, it's funny. He told me, so he went and trained for a Iron Man of it. And he eliminated strength training completely because he thought that would be help his performance And he goes man hit this is on his podcast. I he'll release where he interviewed me He goes man. It was weird watching the changes in my body He goes I started storing body fat in weird places

Obviously, I was losing muscle my metabolism was slowing down even though I was doing so much activity training for you you know, this Iron Man event, and then I got my hormones tested, it was my testosterone was in the floor, and he's like, man, so he goes the next one that I trained for, I made sure to incorporate a little bit of strength training, just to kind of maintain that, and he said it was, it was totally different. But anyway, great, great, I mean, you ever meet people and you're just like, man, these are like really good, yeah, really, really mean, you ever meet people and you're like, man, these are like really good. Yeah, really, really good people.

That's close, really awesome. That's really good. And then we went to Florida to get a little sunny state. You know, we get asked a lot, right? I think everybody has been, has experienced this when you're being interviewed by somebody or we're meeting somebody and like one of the most common questions I get asked are, you know, what has been the most memorable moment for my pump?

And I think that every time that I've answered that question, I think I've shared something different, and it's always like whatever's top of mind for me, or like the last, you know, most recent like, oh, that was so amazing. And there are a lot of memorable moments. Right, that's what I mean. There's so many of them that we've had

that have been amazing, and that, you know, depending on when you ask me what I've been thinking about, I probably have a different answer. I think that for the first time, there'll be a universal answer for all of us from the experience that we had in Florida for quite some time. It'll be interesting how long it will take before that trip, that experience is top, at least for me. Well, we went to interview Tony Robbins, who, I mean, the guy is probably one of the most, he's one of the most influential people, I guess, in America, and he has been for decades.

He's the only common one that we all had, you know that, right? So when we first started the podcast, we all kind of individually made this list, including Doug of like all the top, and everybody had like, they're unique stuff, like Justin had some rockers on there, I had some athletes on there, Sal had some politicians and some,

we all had some like random, like Tony Robbins was the single guest that I think each one of us had on there less when we first started, which is kind of cool that this, here we are, you know. It was a surreal experience, well he's a remarkable individual, so we could talk about that as well, but man, we get to his gorgeous home.

And first of all, a very nice guy met a staff. What was really cool was to see that some of his staff was big fans of our show, which is probably why we got invited to his home. I'm sure it was a real smart trainer. Yeah, and his trainer was a cool guy, also loved the show. Everybody was super nice, like really, really good people.

And they had nothing but incredible things to say about him. In fact, they kept talking about how he's just like such a genuine authentic, which is 100% the vibe. We all got, I think that we all said that after we left. But we get there and first of all, it's a great guy, a huge presence, not just because he's physically big dude, but just he's got this energy about him, right?

Very warm, makes you feel at home right away, shows us around a little bit, and then dude, he takes us in that, that, that, I did not expect anything, any of that at all. Well, we're gonna say, I feel like we were in that other part of the house just so that they could like set this all up. So we had this like crazy experience, which was like just mind blowing. Like it just kind of came out of left field when we walked into that room and saw, you know, some of his exotic cars and then all of a sudden, he kind of came out of left field when we walked into that room and saw, you know, some of his exotic cars and then all of a sudden

He kind of surprised us. Oh, dude. It was it was it was like we went to Bruce Wayne's house. Yeah I think the best analogy is that Charlie and the chocolate factory It felt like Willy Wonka and we were like two kids that were way we got the golden ticket We got to come in and because there's no I mean no cameras, right? There's no videos of this inside of his house. And we're talking about it. We had to sign all kinds of stuff before we went in there. So they're very, very particular about what, taking photos or any video.

So the experience is something that, I don't know how many total people have got to go in his house like that, but I know there's, you can't find anything like that. And we could talk in detail about what we, like some of the stuff right now. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't, I was like waiting. Well, I want to respect this privacy,

but so I'll tell you a little bit about how I experienced, I'm sure all of it, because you know what it was, it was like, you ever do something in the afterwards, you're like trying to process everything, because it was so much to, kind of, so much to look at and take in. It was just like, yeah, it was like a whirlwind. So I'll tell you my experience.

I would love to hear what you guys, you know, kind of went through, but we walk into this garage. And first of all, there's this priceless Ferrari that is in this garage that none of us even talked about because that's how crazy everything else was. Okay. And it was on one of those showroom kind of displays where you could like turn. It's a turntable that rotates.

So you drive it in it, it turns around and I don't know what else it turn. It's a turn table. Yeah. That rotates. It's a private and it turns around and I don't know what else it does. None of us said anything. By the way, any other circumstance I would have been all over this car. There was, you guys told me there was other cars. I didn't even see them. Oh yeah, it just didn't even register. But here, okay, so we walk in, we see this, we see this, we can even talk about the

car nothing because he walks over and there's like this metal. It was a submarine door. A hatch. It looked It's a submarine door. A hatch. It looks like a submarine. Yes, he pushes a button. The hatch goes up and there's this blue light and this hole that's in the hatch. And he's like, all right, you got to follow me or whatever.

And he's talking about, and he literally jumps in this hole and it looks like he slides down and disappears. Now, I'm like, what the hell's going on? And knowing, you know, stuff about him, I'm like, what the hell's going on? And knowing stuff about him, I'm like, am I gonna go in and like, are we gonna end up in like shark-infested waters? Because he's like, You start walking a coal.

Yeah, we're like, coal. Like, is it gonna be something weird where he's gonna like get us? That totally crossed your mind, dude. Bro, I'm like, what's going on, right? I didn't think that at all. Like, what's going on? What are we gonna end up in?

He's gonna like, you know, transform us. You know, he does that right? So, by the way, by the way, he's like think that it all. Like, what's going on? What are we gonna end up, like he's gonna like, you know, transform us? You know, he does that right. And he literally, by the way, he's like 60-September old dude, he just dives in. And he's gone. He lived for it, dude. He's like, all right, follow me and he just takes off. I'm like, okay, so I leap in right after him.

And it is one of the fastest slides I've ever been done in my entire life. You're like, what? And it's way longer than you think. Yeah, yeah. And you're going down in this tube and you end up in this underground like area. That's just ridiculous. It's an underground mansion. That's insane. There was like this indoor basketball core where

the lines were made, were like set by lasers. So you could push a button. It could turn into a squash court, could turn into a basketball court, turn to something else. There were two bowling alleys, you know, there was, which I gotta say too. I think that they put like our names out there, like they were anticipating that we were gonna play. I know. I'm so mad that we did.

We only had certain amounts of yeah. I am not, right? So we, we, we, they set it up so we could play around a little bit, but we only had, we had a very small window with I mean the guy was literally on TV right before he was on making Kelly before us and then right off to another right off to Afterwards, yeah, dude is super super so anytime that we spent kind of messing around we would have we would have got less time with Getting to talk to him. So that part I don't regret not playing around because we would have played around

He'd be like oh see you guys go go and there's so much more about this underground area But then sports memorabilia. Oh, see the guy so he's so influential and connected and and then we have this Then there's a stage area obviously for media and that's where we sit down to interview him And then we have you know great conversation with the guy so part of the reason why I think that we all had such an amazing experience is that, and we talk more about the software than I think, although we've shared a little bit on air, is a lot of times the people that we get to meet, we're super excited to meet them,

because whatever they don't, whatever accolades, whatever book they've done, or whatever stuff they've invented, or writer, or famous actor, whatever, that we get to meet. And then you meet them and it's such a let down. A lot of times, which I get, right?

Because you blow people up in your head, right? Yeah, and you don't know. Yeah, it's partially our fault. And it's also partially that's kind of what you see in celebrities many times is they have this persona that they've created for themselves or they've manufactured somehow. And then you meet them and they're just, it doesn't really align with what you thought.

Right. And so I think we all kind of go, we're all a little jaded because of that. So when we, when we go into meeting him or we're all kind of like, well, we'll see, you know, we'll see if he's not this, you know, big old dude that, you know, puts on a facade like he's full of energy and positive and authentic and then we'll meet him and we'll... And he exceeded all those, yeah. He totally exceeded what I would have imagined. The guy is just, his presence is very, very, I mean, you can see why for decades this guy's been so inflamed.

You know, it's crazy and I told this story on our interview with him. On the flight there, so serendipitous, I sit next to a 60-submural dude who literally sold his billion-dollar company. He talked about how, you know, we were talking about his success and he asked me what I was doing on this plane, you know, why I was going to Florida. He said, well, I'm interviewing Tony Robbins and he goes, dude, he goes, when I was 26, he goes, I was on the wrong path, man.

He goes, and I bought some of Tony Robbins video cassettes, VHS. And it changed my life, and it's what brought me here today. I'm like, what? Yeah. Like, talk about, like, who has this kind of impact on people? And I have stories like that. There's so many of those stories. I mean, I had a few, I was gonna try and bring up,

but you try and get a word in. You know, when he's going, it was impossible. But, yeah, I mean, like, the way I ran my business was indirectly because of my friend that went through his course and just thought completely differently about it and was able to kind of realize his value and then charge more money and then in fact, you know, inspired me to go with that business model. And so it's just like the trickling effect he's been able to, you know, really help so

many people out there. His philanthropy really blew me away. Insane the amount of giving that he does and how many people helps. And he's talking about how that makes him feel, you know, really good and happy and how it comes back to him and all that stuff. But it's very authentic because you could tell

that that's what brings him joy. That's why he enjoys being successful is so we can do that. And you can tell, you know, tell. You know you can tell. You can tell a lot about someone by the people that they surround themselves with. When we met his team, because we went to, when we first got there, we had to wait for him, right? He was still doing his making Kelly interview.

And we're in this guest house, which is, by the way, a gorgeous house. But we're in there. But we're in there. This guest house is bigger and nicer than mine. Yeah, I itself. But we're in there. This guest house is bigger and nicer than my house. That's really nice. But we're over there and it's gorgeous. And we're sitting there waiting. And then his staff comes in and meet us and mic us up.

And the way they talked about him, you could tell. It wasn't just like this is my boss, and I got to be whatever. They were saying some really, really nice things about him. Oh yeah. That's how you can really tell us the way other people talk about him. Yeah. So he was, yeah, I know. He exceeded, I think, my expectations. But it was one of those things about. Oh, yeah. That's how you can really tell us the way other people talk about him.

Yeah. So he was, yeah, I know he exceeded, I think, my expectations. But it was one of those things I was like, I was processing for a few days afterwards. I'm like, did I actually see this? And it still hasn't, it still hasn't like, completely set in, I think.

I mean, so, okay, I'm a huge fan of the old show, the lifestyles of the rich and famous. I love him. I've seen every episode of that. I've seen every episode of MTV, MTV cribs. So that, I've always been into that stuff. So the experience of going into a house like that, I mean, I doubt I'll ever experience anything else

like that in my lifetime. And get the full picture of this. It's a, it's a 15,000 square foot mansion on Palm Beach, right? So when you first walk in, it's, you know, he's, and when you walk through this, this big entryway, you've got these floor to ceiling windows facing the infinity pool that goes out into the ocean on Palm Beach. And then the thing that we're, the room we're talking about, this underground, I mean, this is underground mansion.

It's another 10,000 square feet with also, so it's not like you go down underground and it's like this. Most people are like, yeah, I would have, you know, picture these like small, like low ceilings, like still again, 24 foot tall ceilings underground. We're going down that slide for like 10 seconds. Yeah, forget there. So it's, it's, well, did you see too,

from the house to there, like it was, we're walking back to the house like oh? Yeah, you guys started out here and then like went all the way over basically underneath that part of the house I was like whoa that was far and I imagine there I think it was Doug and I were talking about this that there's probably Laws around well, you know, he can't build up so when he bought that imagine he probably couldn't add higher because you're on the ocean So I imagine you there's laws that protect people from building the view, constructing the view for other people. So his only option was probably to go down

and to build something that big underground. And then of course to have a submarine trapped door with a slide to lead you to it. Like it's, dude, like the little kid in me, 100%. I felt like I was 14 you know, 14 years old, like, you know, thinking about like my dream, you know, underground cave man cave that I would build. Like, you know, everything.

You know, it's really cool, though, when I told him a story about the guy I sat next to in the plane, I could tell he got moved by it. So that felt very authentic. And then when he talked about his work, like he's on the way to feeding over a billion people through some of his charity work. And when you would talk about the philanthropy stuff,

that's when he would light up the most. You could see that's when he felt the most like alive. Like this is why, this is what I really love to do. And that really, I mean, I felt that. He's on pace right now to feed a billion. A billion. A billion people. Like just amazing.

Let that sink in a minute, like to what you would, what, how much money would take to feed a billion, a billion people. Like just, let that sink in a minute, like to what you would, how much money you would take to feed a billion people. That's insane. That's wild. It's totally crazy. I didn't know that his last three books, including the Life Force, which is the one that we went there

to kind of talk to him about, all the proceeds are completely donated. Yeah. Yeah, he's using, he writes them, and then what he makes off of them is what he uses to the thing That's crazy to me about that is like and that just proves your point about how motivated and driven he is to to give and to help others Is this dude is like on a grind and a hustle to get the word out? I mean, I've seen him all over all your biggest podcasts and TV shows and to think that he's not it's not coming back in his pocket

And he's grinding and hustling like that to push it as much as he possibly can. Yeah, it says a lot about his character. Yeah, I'm really, really cool, but sorry I couldn't stay as long. Oh, I know what you're saying. I had to go a day and a good old time in the sun and in the beach. What you guys do the day I left? You guys, so we kind of hung out there a bit longer and we're just having some nice drinks. I went in the ocean a few times and so Adam was like,

Adam in about like ordering this banana drink. And so it was like some banana daiquiri or whatever. And then he's like, trying to remember, you said something about like when you're in Jamaica, you had a very specific drink. And he's like, here dude, order this drink for me. It's called dirty banana. And I'm just like, what? A dirty banana. I'm like, order this drink for me. It's called dirty banana. And I'm just like, what?

A dirty banana. I'm like, I am not ordering that. What? I'm not ordering that, dude. That's a total setup. Yeah. So you got it. Hey man, give me a dirty banana.

No, I ain't gonna say he wouldn't even order it because now I'm like, just order it. So I ordered it. What is it called? I don't know exactly what's happening. I mean, Justin wouldn't know better than me what's inside these drinks. Like, it's a drink in Jamaica, it's really popular.

And I think it's called a dirty banana. And it's basically just like a banana daiquiri. I mean, it's like, Oh, so it's not a prank. No, wasn't a prank at all. I haven't heard of it. That was funny about it was, Justin was so resistant to like doing it.

He thought I was setting him up. And I'm like, no, bro, it's really a good drink. Cause I don't know if they have it here. I said, it's really, and so we asked a guy and he, he based, I know there's something that I wasn't. Also, can you give me a rusty trombone? Yeah. And on the rocks.

Can you give Doug a dirty Chan Chess? Exactly, the dirty Chan Chess. So fuzzy Wombleer. Oh, is it actually had the breakdown? What's in it, Doug? Yeah, so you got white rum, Kaluah, banana flavored liqueur, light cream, whole milk, one banana,

and a cherry on it. It's cherry on it. It sounds like candy. It's good. That sounds like, it's... I did not try it, unfortunately. I should've been here. You didn't have any, right, Justin?

I've had a banana one. I didn't have the dirty banana. Oh, you didn't have the one that, you didn't try it. Yeah, I had the other one, the first one you got. He likes clean banana. Yeah, I like the clean banana. I don't like the dirty banana. Oh, you didn't have the one that, you didn't try it. Yeah, I had the other one, the first one you got. He likes clean banana. Yeah, I like the clean banana. I don't like getting it dirty.

So, he didn't know that, he got it in the name. He just said, like, I can make you a banana-type daiquiri. And I said, okay, yeah, that's cool. So you guys just hung out and got nice sun and relaxed on us. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we did that, and then we went to a really nice dinner that night, so yeah. We had a steak at, do we kinda,

the meat market, there's nothing to be with a dog. The. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wish I remember the person, you know, who slid in the DMs and sent me places. Someone recommended. Yeah, there was a guy that was a local guy. Um, I apologize for not remembering your Instagram handle, but he, you know, DM me saying like, Hey, I hope you enjoy my town. And if you want any questions, I said, well, actually, I'm sure one night will go out and you want any questions, I said, well, actually, I'm sure one night we'll go out and have a nice dinner. Do you have a good steak place? And so he listed a couple of them and we went to this one.

Was it legit? Way legit. So I didn't know this existed right here. So Doug was kind of screwing us on. So I always thought that, you know, once you hit Wagyu, that's it, like it doesn't get any crazier that. But then there's Japanese Wagyu.yu, that's it. Like it doesn't get any crazier that. But then there's Japanese Wagyu. That's rated like Wagyu.

So I had an A5 Japanese Wagyu steak. So how much did I pay for your steak? Yeah, this is a company. Yeah, let's talk about how much it was. It was definitely one of the most expensive steaks that I've ever had. So I tasted, I've had little bits of it. Like there's a steak house over here in Cupertino,

and they were, I don't remember, it was like a small sample of it that you could buy. And it was like butter. It was like a melts, right? Justin had the, just had the flay, and Doug and I had the ribeye of the Japanese five wagu, and it was best take ever, unbelievable. Is this where they feed the cows beer and the massage?

And the massage of the gill? Yeah, that's my understanding of the process. So typically, you think of it as Kobe beef, but yeah, the A5 Japanese version is different from the A5 American version. So okay, we just explain to me, it goes Kobe Wagyu, Japanese Wagyu. You know, honestly, I don't know all the distinctions.

So Kobe beef is typically Wagagu means just basically Japanese beef. Okay. Yeah. And the Kobe beef is what's known to be so tender because of the process that they use. It's like marble differently. Yes. I mean, if you look at a piece of wagu meat, it's like, it's just like, uh, such a

symmetrical fat. It's a fairly dispersed. That is. Yeah. And there's so much fat that it's almost pinkish because of the red juxtaposed against the white. But because it's so thin, you don't get like that. You know when you get like a rib eye, sometimes it has like a quarter inch

of fat all the way on the edge, you know? And it's like really fatty. It's so thin that you never feel like you're eating. It's all in there. It's all, yes, all dispersed throughout the meat. Rather than in big chunks down the side. Or would it give you a little bit salt to fish on it? Yeah, you would have.

Yeah, I would have liked it. But there was no way I would have missed it. Because the reason why I came back early was it was the father, daughter, dance that we do every year. I do every year of my daughter. Now, they didn't do a dance, so no way I'll miss that, right? There's only one year that I missed that. That was the year I took her to Disneyland because I missed it.

It's the first year of Mind Pump, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so or second, right? So I, obviously I came home early the next day was that. Now they didn't do a dance this year, and I'm assuming it's because of whatever, COVID or whatever. So they did a father-daughter adventure, but it was kind of like a scavenger hunt. So it was competitive.

Well, it wasn't supposed to be, right? You're supposed to show up. It always turns into that. Well, so we're supposed to, my daughter is a beast. Like she's so competitive, I totally love it. So we talked about this and I said, hey, we're supposed to show up, they give us instructions, we do certain things,

take pictures apparently, and then we come back and we get a prize. And she's like, let's be first. And I mean, my heart just warms up. Let's be the best dad. Yeah, I was like, oh man, I love this girl. So I'm like, let's do it. So we get there, we show up, we do the thing,

we show up, we cry, apparently we blew everyone away with it. And now truth be told, I don't think anybody else was trying to win or be first, but my daughter definitely wanted to. So we did that and then later that night I took her to her first really quote-unquote fancy restaurant, which was really fun, right? So she's 12. Nice. And I said, you know, get a nice dress, her mom bought a real nice dress for her whatever, which by the way she's at the age now where it's like the teen kind of clothes, right?

So she had this really pretty dress on, but she wore a cardigan because the back was like straps or whatever. So I'm already like, I'm inside him and like, damn it. Like my daughter's getting the age where I'm just happening. No. But anyway, I pick her, I bought her flowers,

I buy her flowers every time and I open the door and make sure to, like I said, the whole goal with this is to set the standard so high that douchebags just don't even get in the door. Not even close. Not even close, right? So do the whole thing, flowers, open doors for first time she's ever been to a restaurant like this. So we walk in and right away they hand us this like, you know, here's some, you know, special

bone broth or whatever. It's like the whole thing already, right? So she's taking, she's like, what's this? I said, oh, they just give you this when you first come in or whatever. Then they lead us back and then there's this big window. It's that bistecca in the prune yard, great restaurant. So you see like all the chefs and stuff cooking. So she's like immediately taking videos of everything.

You know, then we sit down and she's, you can tell, she's like, this place is really fancy. I said, oh, it's really cool, right? Then she's commenting on everything. She's like, they take our silverware between every dish. Like, why are they doing that? I'm like, oh, this is kind of what they do. And then she goes the bathroom at one point, comes back.

She's like, they folded my napkin. I said, I know, right? It's pretty cool. She tried everything, which she's not, you know, she's a kid, right? But now she's getting a little older, but you know, kids, they don't want to try everything. You know, they want their thing.

Well, she totally was down. So we ordered all kinds of different things, and although she didn't eat a lot of everything, she actually tried everything, which was really cool. So that was fun. Taking videos and pictures, and then the waiter, one of the waiters came up and he's like, hey man, are you taking your daughter on a date?

He's like, that's so cool. So I know it was cool, because I was in front of my daughter. So she got to see that. But we had a blast, man. We had a lot of fun. Took her home. I wouldn't have missed that for the world. It would have been fun to stay with you guys, but no way in hell. I wouldn't have missed it. It's pretty cool. No way in hell. I wouldn't miss it. So what, I mean, the scavenger hunt, how does it work? I know what a scavenger hunt is, but what do you guys? They called it an adventure, but basically it was like, go to this address, take a picture

with this thing, do this one thing, drive cheese. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like go to this address, take a picture with this thing, do this one thing. Do you want to drive cheap? Yeah. Yeah. So it was like through the town. It was a scam. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, interesting. So it was cool. It was fun, you know, but like I said, my daughter's like so competitive. She's like, do this, just do that. Okay, which one's closer? We'll go to that one first. She's like, speedy habit's probably help for those.

Oh. I don't drive fast. Yeah. We've been talk about that. Speaking of fast stuff, huh? Looks like I got quickly booted off Instagram. Never just done. Man, it really interested.

You know, I've heard some people that go through this and it takes a while. Sometimes like, I mean, my optimistic brain says, you know, some algorithm thing got tripped because of something you did or people reporting you or some shit and then they have to kind of fact check and figure it all out and then you'll get it back hopefully.

Well, so I got a message. So here's what happened. I go to good on Instagram. I get a message and it says there's a suspicious activity of whatever, we need to verify that this is you. So I did because I have this verification where they send me a code, I send it in, whatever. And then it said, we'll let you know

within roughly 24 hours if you're verified or whatever. Anyway, that was over a week ago. Yeah, I was gonna say how many days has it been since? And now leading up to this, I will say this, I was getting, and I don't know what Instagram is doing with their algorithm, I was getting warnings on memes. First of all, I post memes in the store, they disappear after 24 hours. Right. I was getting warnings on memes that I posted all, I post memes in the story. They disappear after 24 hours. Right.

I was getting warnings on memes that I posted two years ago. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, they would show all this meme when against our community guidelines. I'm like, dude, I posted that two years ago. And it was for stupid stuff. It was like silly, like this one meme or this guy.

It was like a funny meme in the guys. Like, oh, I'm gonna kill myself. It's like, you should not post self-harm, you know, suicide, what are I'm like, myself. It's like you should not post self-harm You know suicide what I'm like what like this is silly like it was dumb anyway That led up to and then on other stuff I had been getting Accounts that were copying me exactly they would just change one letter Yeah, I got that right now. Yeah, so someone's after us, bro. I think you're next. Yeah, I don't know if they're out I mean what I see with the copying us is, I mean, it's really popular right now,

the scams online, especially with the whole NFT. Great, so the crypto movements, right? Yeah, everyone's making so much money off crypto, and you got all these people that have FOMO, and then they find someone like us who have, because obviously there's much bigger accounts that you can copy this, but I think what's most tempting about our accounts

is how our community, how active our community is. So the engagement on our pages is really high. And so I think you just get these scam artists that see that and they copy all of our photos and pictures, they change, like they change the eye to an L, lowercase L. Yeah, exactly. And first glance, it looks literally spot on my mind. And they copy all your posts, all your pictures? Yeah, so it's a, and then what they do is they can,

they start following some of the people that are following you. And then they DM them like, oh, I got this great, you know, investment opportunity or some stuff. Yeah, now luckily I didn't get anybody that's a follower that told me they got scammed. Most people kind of laughed it off and said like, oh, I got so excited because you followed me this morning and found out it wasn't you. So I hadn't got anybody tell me like they they bid on.

How much does that even work? And this kind of leads me into like, so the, the crypto stuff, like, so there was a commercial for the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. That was really annoying. So it was like, they tried to make it, you know how you had a screen saver a long time ago, where it's like, DING! I read about going across the screen,

the QR code. You know that crash their site? Did it? It was so effective that it crashed their site. I was wondering how effective it was gonna be because I did, I was curious enough to like see where it led, no. Hell of people did that.

The course is a crypto. Yeah, no, so I did a thing, I don't know if you guys saw my story, but I asked everybody to DM me their favorite commercials as they were coming in or What about that? That was one of the top ones was everyone thought that was was really close. That's one of those things that will work once. Oh, yeah No, yeah, if you saw it again, you'd be like how frustrated would you be if you're the CEO of Coinbase? You did that it was but then you're shit crashed. It was so effective. Yeah. Oh, I would be so

Capture all those leads coming. I would be brutal. So pissed off. Now, did you, did you watch, did you watch commercials and some of that? I watched stuff about it. You know, I don't give a crap about it. Super. But I watched stuff about. Oh, it's sports balls.

So you didn't catch all the commercials. The Amazon one I thought was really good. Jeff Bezos put it on his Instagram like a, like a week before whatever. So I kind of got to, I already knew it was coming, but I think it was one of the better ones. It was like the, what's, they're not Siri, they're what's Amazon's, Alexa, Alexa, thank you, is learns to predict what you're thinking.

And so it's just like commercial with husband and wife. And they're like, oh, that was pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty funny. And it starts off like the, the predictability is really great. It's like, oh, something spilled or before something happened in already Alexa ordering paper towels, some shit like that, right? So it was like really quick.

They're all eating oysters and it said something like, you know, that, they're blaming the guy that, like he left them out overnight if it tasted weird. Yeah. It was a, so it started getting really funny because it was like husband and wife, like, you know, the husband would do you tell the story and then it would be what,

with the wife was really thinking also and the Alexa would like turn on the blender, you know what I'm saying? So it could hear. Yeah. So it was clever. Or like the wife really wanted him to like be somewhere, she had a special thing that was coming up

and it was like fake your death, but like that. So it was pretty, that was clever. I thought it was cool. All I saw, because I saw stuff about it. And the world kind of mediocre. The thing that I noticed, like, because it was in California, right? I was like wow look at all these so-fie stadium incredible celebrities Not wearing masks in the state that requires masks for everybody except for the orchestra the orchestra had to wear masks

I guess I guess if you make enough money in your popular enough you don't got to do My kids magically like some of the mask mandates like we're lifted just a couple days before my kids It's except for say while we're as it say California's what the rest there's a there's a ton of blue states now that are Dropping it like they're I think I should in DC just the yeah, I read like five or seven just over the last couple days or Starting to drop it. So California's kind of the last to get on board with this Real progress, you know, forward. I was so, I was, yeah, I was so infuriated. I watched these people hanging out right next to each other whatever, no problem.

I still got to put them asking my damn kid. I'm just over it. Oh, hold on. I'm over them both sides of everybody. Everybody is dude. I feel like that's why I think you see this. I think you feel, here's the thing, even the people that were,

it's the same people like smelph Instagram. The people that work stream about it, even they are like over it. You know what I'm saying? I think they're over wearing the mask in ridiculous places like that or when you're outdoors. So I think that, and they don't wanna talk about it, right?

Nobody wants to admit that they were way off on it and were wrong about it. So you got those people that are just gonna be like, oh shit, I kind of double-tripled down on that and it's not looking like that's how it played out. Yeah, so you guys, do you guys adjust the time change yet? Or when did you guys get back?

It was a long time. Yes, we got back late Saturday night and I definitely woke up early. Yeah, I hate that. I was like, oh wow, it's like six o'clock. I hate that, but you guys were okay today. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys do anything yesterday or just chill?

I chill, we went to the beach. Went to the beach and kind of hung. That was beautiful. You know, of course, those... It's like eight degrees here, right? Yeah, the week that we're gone was like some of the best weather in my place, so Katrina was texting me. It's 80 here, it's 80 here.

So we went up to Half Moon Bay, kind of up in that direction a little bit. My brother had his son's baptism, which was really cool. And it was gorgeous. Now, every once in a while, fog, because we were near the beach, fog would roll in, and literally the temperature change would be like 10 degrees. It'd go like 75, 65. That's like my place.

Yeah. It's like on a peninsula, so it does that. So it'd be warm and it's cool. You know, it was cool though. So we were there, family was there hanging out. It was a good time. And my dad, my brother and I took a picture with my dad and my dad is just, you can see the pride in his face. You know, because it's my brother's first child, right?

And I already have kids and there's a picture with me and we'll poke, we'll, we'll, we'll make sure to give it to Andrew here to put on the video so you guys can see it. My dad is in between my brother and I and you could just see the, the pride in this, you know, this, this poor immigrant who came here, who this was his dream, you know, to see this with his kids. And it was really nice, you know, I could see my dad just, he was, he's not a super emotional, he's a very loving person.

Yeah. But I could see the look in his face when we were doing that. And I had my grandparents there who were, That's cool. Yeah, it was really nice. And then we got all these babies together. So I have my son who's 16 months old, my cousins, baby is like a year old, my cousin's baby is like a year old.

My brother's baby is like right around, you know, that daddy or a little younger. And we got these little boys together and like, oh, man, this is so cool. They're all going to grow up together and, you know, be real close like we were, you know, growing out. That's awesome. Yeah. You keep getting, you're getting all kinds of stuff shipped to you personally. What do you got going on a little? Oh, yeah.

So on the backside of it. No, no. Adressed. Every time I see a box, you know, for do you got going on a little? Oh, yeah. So on the backside or like, it is just gonna know. Adressed. Every time I see a box coming out for sale. So you've got kicked off Instagram, it's like I'm a cool now, people are so appreciate it. No, that's not what happens. So mysterious.

No, I'm working with, so I got in a phone call with Organifi because they were talking about, they wanted to create a new product and they wanted my input. Can't talk about what the product's gonna be or what that's gonna look like, but the process by which't talk about what the product's gonna be or what that's gonna look like, but the process by which we talk about what to do and what that's gonna look like,

they're great, man. They're so, so are they already sending you samples? Yeah, I got a sample. Oh, shit, that was fast. Yeah, I got a sample of what we're gonna try. I'm gonna give you guys some too. Yeah.

But what goes into, for example, the protein powder, like they're very conscious about combining vegan sources to give you a beneficial amino acid profile, digestibility. Obviously, taste is really important, because vegan proteins typically taste like crap. There's obviously, you guys know, already taste really good. But I was on the Zoom call with one of the people that develops it, one of the marketing people,

somebody who knows some of the science of the ingredients and it was, Yeah, and this was their idea to approach us for input on the product, which is amazing. Yeah, but it's, I mean, obviously, we've been working with them for a long time. It's great to work with a company that is, you know, conscious like that and smart.

Because the supplement industry definitely has some good companies that are like that, and then there's a lot of crap. There's so much crap in garbage. We must say no to 50 supplement companies a month, at least because they'll send us a product. We'll just look at the label and I'll immediately go, you know, no.

Do you think that's because of how easy it is to get into that market? Because there's no regulation around it. And so like it's literally, you could put 40, you know, 100 bottles together and throw a logo on it. And like legally start selling to people. First off, it's the reason why we have so many credible options in the supplement industry.

Why it's, okay, I'll give you guys a great example. Craya team would not be here if the supplement industry was not as unregulated as it is. Creatine got developed in the mid 90s or put out in the market in the mid 90s. Today, and how many times have I said on the show, that creatine is going- Just gonna ask if you're gonna bring up the article

you say, because you've been saying that for a long time. I've been saying it for years, right? Probably since we started the podcast, that creatine is gonna be known as one of the number one health and wellness supplements. Forget building muscle, forget strength, it's great for those things to health and wellness. Well, there's this huge, I guess, convention event with scientists and doctors who are going to be presenting their coming up, they're going to be presenting their studies on creatine's beneficial effects for health, cancer, Alzheimer's, arthritis, diabetes,

Parkinson's, you name it, right? Why? Because creatine contributes to mitochondrial health and it helps fuel the energy of all yourself. So this supplement, which is funny because I remember the 90s, creatine was like, because it actually worked, oh, you shouldn't take creatine,'s a steroid. It's bad for you, whatever. There's lots of misinformation there, putting out to try and deter it.

Yeah, but this is a good example, right? Supplementistry is unregulated, so you're going to get a lot of crap, but you're also going to get way more opportunities and stuff presented. So you just have to be more of a responsible consumer. That's all it means that you have to make your own choices. And there are good companies out there, like we talked about like organify. There's a lot of. That's all it means that you have to make your own choices. And there are good companies out there,

like we talked about like organify. There's a lot of shit that's out there. So you just gotta be smart about what you pick. But definitely because the barriers low, that's why you see a lot of these companies that can put out whatever they want. Justin, did you watch the Super Bowl? Yeah, I watched it like fully or did you like it?

I mean, yeah, it was on the whole time. I didn't like, I wasn't paying too much attention because my team was there and like I hate the Rams So oh who so he was a ramp on bangles. It's actually a really good game It was a good I mean they kept it close. It was back and forth But I just I mean again unless you're like a fan of those two teams I think it's kind of like whatever so any guesses from you know I always like diving into like the, how much money these guys make off of stuff like this, right?

So. Did you bet on it by the way? I didn't actually. Oh, really? I chose not to. I had so many people asking to what my take on. And I'm glad I did because I, I said that I believe the Rams are gonna win.

I hate to, I would hate to bet against Joe Burrow. The line was, bangles plus four. Okay, so that means that the line was Bangles Plus 4. Okay, so that means that the Bangles get four extra points, okay, they lost by three. Ooh. So, I mean, that's when it's that close on the line, it's always, it's a 50-50 shot,

you which way you could have bet with one. Now, if had you would have bet in, be honest, where would you have put your m- The Rams. But I would have lost, because I would have taken the, so I don't bet the money line, I like to take the points. So I would have taken the Rams, but I would have lost because I would have taken the, so I don't bet the money line, I like to take the points. Okay.

So I would have taken the Rams minus three, which means the Rams would need to win by four or more for me to have won. So I would have lost. Wow. So I, so I'm glad I stayed away from it because it, and that's partly why I did. I knew the, I knew the bangles were gonna put up a fight.

And a lot of them, a lot of the money in Vegas was on the bangles. Yeah. Well, it was interesting. There was no penalties like the whole game. And then all of a sudden, like the last drive, you know, one of the last drives down there, there's all these flags. Yeah, my buddies and I were getting into it

a little bit about that because one of my buddies was really rooting for the Bengals. I didn't really have any skin in the game and so I didn't care what you guys wanted a good game. And you're right, there was like literally like two penalties in the whole game. And then all of a sudden there was like six at the, right there in the red zone.

Right in the red zone. Now, you know, a lot of them were, I mean, you saw the replay, they were, I mean, it did happen, right? There was, yeah, there was some holding, and then there was, you know, some hands and whatnot, but it just was, they didn't call that before. So, yeah, so, but I mean, I guess I didn't see

how egregious it was before, so I don't know. But of course, if you're a bangles fan, that's your biggest gripe right now is everybody was talking about that. I thought they were fair call. I thought they were fair calls. It does suck that they are making them at the very end like that. So you know that I don't know if you saw the replay on the very last play where Aaron don't come in and basically sacked him, you know, got it off, but he's pretty much sacked him for the win. They show there's a there's actually the camera's

frozen on chase. Yeah. His number one wide receiver actually Ramsey who's guarding him fell down and he was going wide open. And if he had literally a half a second more that ball is gone and they're they're almost even got it off to running back. That was close and you just like flick that is getting tackled. So let's do this. So let's play this game a little bit. I want to see if you guys get. Okay, so I don't know these facts,

but this is me kind of estimating based off sports questions. I don't know dollars money. Like how much money? How much do you think? First of all, do you have any idea what the average ticket would cost with the low end, the high end, you have any idea? To go? What's the cheapest? I would know, it's bleed worse.

I would imagine because the prices of everything is exploded that this has to be one of the most expensive Super Bowl. That's what sent me down this path. Exactly that was that because I was close. Five or 10,000? No, for a nose bleed for one seat. I mean, it was 4,000. So that was mind boggling to me, right? To know that the worst seat in the house is. $4,000.

Yeah, like 4,200. I do that out there as a joke. Yeah, no, 4th per seat, right? So if you and your wife are going to the Super Bowl and want the worst seats in the house, you're spending eight G's. How much of the best seats? Yeah. Oh, best seats would go up where I think the highest was 35,000.

So the average is like 8,000. So that stadium seats, 70,000 people for regular seats, they say there's like 20 to 30,000 with standing room only and other things. So I can't guarantee exactly how many other tickets are sold besides the 70,000 seats, but of course those were sold out. So you know how much money that is? You did the math. Of course I did. Yeah.

Almost a billion fucking dollars. Wow. I wonder what the profit was. So if they actually did a hundred thousand seats or a hundred thousand tickets at an average ticket price of eight thousand, which is what the last two super balls the average ticket, this is higher average ticket ticket prices between seven and eight thousand dollars So you're talking about seven hundred to eight hundred thousand dollars now if you said only the seventy thousand got and then there was no other Tickets, so I don't believe that's true. You're talking about five hundred sixty thousand wait wait wait wait Hold on five hundred million dollars you're talking half a billion. I said oh 800 800 million oh million. You said eight thousand. Okay. Oh, sorry Yeah, eight 800 million holy

$800 million just factoring to Gavin Newsom's numbers for how much money California is making It's actually a good I mean if you factor in Food beverage all the things like that. So it's that I didn't realize that's a billion dollars a hot dog cost of the Super Bowl A lot 20 bucks. No, I have that much, but a lot probably eight I think like eight bucks. Hey, surprise is 20 bucks. Well, I was okay. So I think that back eight dollars is kind of a typical Hot dog at a game. He's spending four thousand dollars on nosebleed I would imagine the hot dogs gonna be like 20 bucks. No, that's a good guess But I mean if you at if you factor in like that plus the tickets

I mean you're talking about a billion dollar day of money right there. That's it in your face. Just that in itself. Now, is it true that the day after is like the busiest day for plumbers? What? I've heard that. Is that true?

I've heard that before. That was like a fun fact I read somewhere. Are you seeing that? That's so funny. Because all the shit's everybody's taking you. Yeah. All the junk food and stuff. Yeah.

Everybody's just running to the bathroom and you gotta look that up. Is that a true staff? I've heard it before. I don't know if it's real, if's just a myth, but it makes sense. I didn't I would think it'd be things giving the day after things Giving but no, I've heard it's a super bowl. I actually haven't been to a super boy yet and I don't think I ever I don't know if I ever will I that's just that to me. It's a lot of will-do bucket list I'm going maybe dude, so I'm not I mean $4,000 seats is is expensive seats now. I've paid that for basketball before but I'm going maybe, dude. So I'm not, I mean, $4,000 seats is expensive seats. Now,

I've paid that for basketball before, but I'm like on the court, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because when you're away, it's the biggest party there is, you know, the Superball. Like, that's where it's at. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Hey, did you guys hear the, the, just gonna be a crazy left here, but you guys hear the news around the advancements infusion for energy? Yes. I know all in podcast, guys are talking about it. Oh, that's really good. Yeah, they're making some pretty incredible advancements

where, oh, it is the day after Thanksgiving. Look at that, that is the busiest. That makes more sense. That makes more sense, because I know Thanksgiving what that's all about. Anyway. Oh, that's funny. So, volume.

What they're literally doing, what they're trying to do is literally create many suns in terms of the energy production and fusion. Is this what that, because I remember reading about China having like artificial suns and their body? Isn't it, isn't it, you know, the new Wall Street with Shalibo? Okay. Isn't that what, isn't that the water fusion?

Isn't that basically what they're, I think so. Yeah, I think so too. So literally what the promise is, and we will get there, because the tech, it'll happen. Yeah. We're going to get to the point where we can create an energy machine that creates more energy than it is that requires going in. Okay. So in other words, we put in so much energy to create more energy.

We're going to define the laws of it. The state, yeah. No, it's free energy. Yeah, it's create more energy. We're gonna define the laws of fitness. No, it's free energy. Yeah, it's infinite free energy. He, the stat that he gave on the show that I thought was fascinating was saying a, basically a 10 by 10, basically a cube 10 by 10 of water

would be enough to power the entire world for the amount of energy we use right now. Yeah, yeah. 10 by 10 by 10. So, that's like this room is significantly bigger than that. And the waste would be water and oxygen So the the promise of this literally is gonna have to get rid of that Well, you could you could you could literally change

He's not gonna be cool that no you could change everything with this Yeah, imagine if imagine if in energy in the future is free Well, I mean, okay, people need to look at the there's actually charts that this. When you look at the growth of the human population on Earth and the change in wealth and medicine and progress and that kind of stuff, it's very closely connected to our ability to harness energy. Now, to date, there's nothing more effective, cheap, easier to transport, whatever than carbon-based energies. Regardless of what they try to tell you about solar energy and water, they just don't come

close yet, the text not there yet. Carbon-based energies are so far the best, except for nuclear power, which people don't want to touch because everybody's scared of, but they do a great job compared to what we had before that. Of course, the byproduct is waste, and we can create more toxic gases and that kind of stuff. Fusion would change everything. It would change the world more than the industrial or revolution change.

For sure. I mean, they said that it would, where did they find these discoveries? It's not discovered. They're continuously working on this and trying to, where are they working on this? China, the US, Europe is making these changes and discover. I think China made that...

It would completely eliminate any fears around global warming. Oh, we would reverse. We would actually reverse and remove carbon from the atmosphere and change our own environment. We could... You have any tax everybody. We could put oxygen on other planets and create other planets that are hospitable.

Like literally, it would be, the sky would be the limit. So, you know, reading about this is incredible. And we're probably 30, 40 years away from some tremendous breakthroughs, and maybe 100 years away from what I'm talking about where it's like limitless free energy, which is insane. Yeah, that was his predictions. I'm not saying what's his name on it. All in podcasts. Yeah, why can't he? The Sultan of science. Yeah, that was his predictions. I'm not saying what's his name on it. All in podcasts. Yeah, why can't he get a soulton of science? Yeah, that's his nickname.

I can't remember his name. Date, is it not? Because there's David Sacks and there's David. No, no, no, no. Jason Calcanis is the host. That's right. Yeah, here, here, here, breakthroughs like that. I just, I get really cynical because I know it's like,

there's just so many other forces out there to combat it. Those are people, I don't though, I feel like Instagram. How do you convince all these powerhouses to just be okay with that? Oh wait, it'll be a fight. I would imagine. Exactly. Do you think so? I think like something like this that's like, I mean, that's probably one of the...

What are the disruptors and tire wave of doing everything? Well, we've been through disruptions before, right? Like, you know, the steam engine and then, of course, the internal combustion engine. I mean, they completely changed everything. Totally. So, I mean, will it be a fight? I don't know. I think when they see the riding on the wall, they'll probably move in a direction where

they're trying to figure out, you know, where they could... Freeberg. There you go. He's the guy that was on Yeah, I mean, that's cool, man. I'm all for it speaking of science and cool stuff I think Caldera's Serenam also reduces inflammation on the skin What so maybe it's gonna help with my fat face. No, no, you're just not inflammation There's no hope there. That's just fat. Yeah.

Yeah, I think you have to use preparation as well, that kind of anti-inflammatory. What? You know that the people will do that for bags in their eyes. They'll put the hemorrhagic cream on. They can't even hurt you. Did you know that?

No, I have a secret. I have a celebrity's floor. Yeah, they put the freaking hemorrhagic cream on. I have a book talks and all that stuff. But no, I know, Caldera. My skin was a little inflamed, because I was out in the sun over there in Florida and, you know, you're traveling in the plane and it was a long ass day. And I didn't bring my, my serum with me on the trip.

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Well, I think it's just how they got the market. I think they market to women now too. Yeah. I think that's also like a strategy to start off, right? Totally. Let's first get this. I mean, it's kind of like, like, like, like, Viori.

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active meaning you're not just sitting there laying down and resting, you're doing something active, but that's not structured exercise. Which mean rest, you know, days should be active. Which means it could be a bunch of different things. Yeah. Right. I mean, you could use, depending on who you are, like, you know, maybe you need something that's way more restorative, and you're doing like yoga or, you know, meditating. Maybe you don't need something that's way more restorative and you're doing like yoga or meditating. Maybe you don't need something so restorative and so you do something like a hike outside for a couple hours, or it's a complete mobility day

because you've been strength training very hard so it could be a lot of different. Yeah, I think the question is right, which the best, so how would you rank what the best is? I personally, okay, so we could sit there and say, all right, if the person requires more mobility, if they require more conditioning, if their goal is fat loss, muscle building,

then this would be the best prescription or whatever recommendation. But I never, I don't wanna say never, when I got better as a trainer, I stopped looking at things that way, except for my super hardcore performance driven clients. Most of my clients, the goal really was overall health and longevity.

In other words, consistency over a long period of time. It's not just about training for an event, it's rather like, how do I do this long term, enjoy it, and make myself feel healthy and good. In the long term, build muscle burn body fat and feel great. In which case the criteria was, what are you gonna enjoy the most? Yeah. That's really it, right?

Because there is no wrong answer here unless you're hurting yourself or training yourself inappropriately. I think active rest days should be based entirely over what you enjoy because that's gonna keep you the most consistent, in my opinion, give you the best long term effect. So like maybe you would benefit more from mobility,

but man, you really enjoy hiking and going outdoors. And it's that enjoyment is probably more likely to keep you consistent on these active days, these active rest days. And then enjoyment, there's a lot of health benefits you get from that as well, especially when you're doing it with people that you like to be with.

Yeah, I mean, that's probably the most important thing. However, if you have an athlete too, or like I would probably try to have them focus a bit on some of the movement and skill that would apply. So doing things at a very low intensity, but being able to kind of mechanically go through those movements so you're still basically like teaching your body these movements and repeating them constantly,

which then sort of solidifies it. So it becomes part of the subconscious at that point. But in terms of like your average person just trying to recover, just light expressive movements, anytime that you can, I think personally, being able to do things you normally don't do in terms of movements, so being able to articulate your joints

and rotate them a bit more and focus on that kind of stuff, I think will help in terms of being able to, you know, provide stability and support. Yeah, I don't know how much I agree with you on this one cell, not because you don't make good points, but because we, people a lot of times do the things that they like to do and they neglect the things they probably should do. I don't know how many times I've had a client who

has got a very high stress job and is burning the candle both ends and their active recovery day is going out for a hike, but I would much rather see them do a yoga class for an hour, or I've got a client that is hardcore consistent with their training, and they train heavy consistently, and then their active recovery maybe as a sport they love to do, and they love to go play basketball, but I need them to address and work on their mobility. Well, yeah, it's so, we can eat perfect diets too, but we don't tell people to follow a perfect diet because yeah, but I know, I think saying a blanket statement,

like just do what you love to do on active recovery day is not what's best for you. In the context of what is going to keep you active physically for the rest of your life, generally speaking, and most people could be better at being more active. Okay, you have a point there. That's got to be number one, right? Sure, inconsistency, that's the big deal. Yeah, but sure a point there. That's gotta be number one, right? Sure.

In consistency, that's the big deal. Yeah, but sure, I still think that what someone asking this question is seeking though is like, okay, I hear what you guys are saying. I hear the benefits of act recovery. Okay, now tell me what I should potentially be doing. Now that is going to vary and depend on the person, like if you were training them and your client specifically asked you that, I don't think my answer would just be, oh, do whatever you want, do what you love to do,

I would assess what their lifestyle is like and I would give them a recommendation that I think would be most beneficial. So take it as like a, they're asking you more of a structured active rest day. Like what should I do? A descriptive one. Yeah, well, I think prescriptives were not structured,

it doesn't have to be so structured, where I'm like, hey, how would you hike for this? No, no, that's what I mean. I mean, like, it's just prescriptive. Yeah, it's like, okay, yes, I agree with you being active and enjoying activity. Like, yeah, by all means, like, I think that has tremendous value, but if I have a client who I'm in tune

with their habits, I know their needs as far as movement. And you know they're gonna do what you tell them. Yeah, and they're asking a question like this. They're saying, okay Adam, what do you want me to do? Act to recover day? What's the best thing for me? I'm gonna give to them what I think is most beneficial.

So for this person, since we don't know you, you have to have this self-awareness to know. Am I somebody who burns a candle at both ends and I'm more guilty of pushing myself too hard and maybe I need to work more inward from my day off? Maybe it looks like a sauna, jacuzzi, cold plunge, meditation type of day. Or am I somebody who is got a very sedentary lifestyle

because I work at a desk nine to five. And so I would have tremendous benefit from just going on a nice, easy, leisurely walk for two hours or something. So, I mean, for an active recovery day, it could be all the things we're talking about. And I think, yes to your point, trying to choose things that are gonna keep you consistent,

but I also think that there are things that the individual could be doing on that active recovery day that will benefit them more than other things. If I know they're gonna do it, it's like if someone asked me what's the best diet or what's the best form of cardio. There's two answers. One is the best for you.

Two is the one you're gonna do the most consistently. And for most people, the challenge is about consistency, which is why I answered that way. But the benefits of active recovery are that you recover faster. It's healthier for you. I used to think that the best way to recover was to do nothing. Yeah, you have hard work and then do nothing.

Blood flow. I mean, that's all part of the healing process. It's not true. Movement facilitates recovery far better than just sitting and laying in bed. It was a huge mistake. Yeah, that's why I think too. Like, if you're just painting a broad stroke, like, why I'm more inclined to kind of tell people to move laterally or twist. It's just because it's just not something you're programmed to do, especially in your programming for strength training. A lot of people don't consider those things.

So to be able to at least try to focus on maybe like two things you can do, that'd be an easy one. What's your guys' favorite forms of active recovery? What do you actually do when you're doing active recovery? Well, so I think I actually bounce between all the things we're talking about right now. There might be, and then the way I decide is kind of based off of what my week

or my life where it's currently going. Is it pretty balanced? Are you more likely to do one thing like over the other? No, I'm more likely to do what I think is best for me. I have the discipline to say, but does that mean is there ever been a time where I know this is what's totally best for me and then I ended up doing something else?

Like sure, that happens, but I try and make the decision on my active recovery days, the thing that I probably need most or what I should potentially add into my life. I'm way more with workouts consistent, like with what I, you know, but when it comes to active recovery, I just love walking and hiking.

I just get so much out of it, I don't know, nonphysically, emotionally, spiritually, whatever you wanna say, going outside, being with my kids and my wife. That's almost like nine at a 10 times. If I'm doing something active recovery, it's that. It's walking or hugging. That's the low hanging fruit for me.

Like, it's the easy one. To me, it's like the default, I should do X, Y, or Z. I don't really feel like it will bear minimum. I'm gonna go move because I know that will facilitate recovery and it'll help burn calories. There's benefits to it for that specific day and then also the recovery process. So to me, the go for a nice walk with Katrina

or something is the bare minimum I'll do. And then I'm probably trying to do somebody. Yeah, it's funny, so I don't even think of like, I don't think of the calorie burn or any of that stuff. I just like, hey, let's go do something. And I like doing this thing. And it's moving. I don't want to just say it.

Oh, I do. I definitely think now, because I'm so aware, and I think mainly because of the business now, never in my life have I been so sedentary. Easily in this job, I easily could string a week together a whole week, where maybe I averaged 2,000 steps in a day. Like if it's a crazy, we're on calls, we're flying places, we're doing stuff like that, we're not really walking around very much, or maybe I didn't get in very many workouts this week,

I could look back and go holy shit, I only walked 2,000 steps. So, and I know what a difference that is on a, just an activity for calorie burn for me that I'm like, dude, I didn't get out and just move. Well, when you're training clients in a gym, I was doing 10,000 steps on my ice clothes. And you're picking up weights and moving them around and all that, total.

I never, this is the first time I live, I've ever set, and obviously I enjoy doing this, so I time I live, I've ever sat down, obviously I enjoy doing this, so I'm not complaining, but I never sat down this much much. No, I never sat down at home. And that's just kind of as a result of being in this environment, I'm very conscious of that. Being out, standing up, walking around,

picking things up, you know, and being like productive at home, because it's just like, I need the movement. Next question is from Fauziam. Is there a way to grow shoulders and back without the traps getting too big? Do deadlifts make traps bigger? You know, okay, let's talk about deadlifts first. Deadlifts build the entire back. Most of the trap development that you'll get from deadlifts is not the upper. So I'm assuming this person's afraid of developing upper traps. Like the, because your traps have different attachments and the muscle fibers

point in different directions. And there's no neck look. Yeah, so you could develop the upper traps which actually shrug the shoulders and you're capable of the holding process. Yeah, but when you deadlift, a lot of the developments in that mid-trap area, you know, that's where you're going to see most of the development. So can they build the upper traps? I guess if you have really good genetics for traps

and maybe, but it's more of that mid-trap area that you'll see near the rhomboid? There are annoying questions to me. Well, this is definitely annoying, but to me, this is actually, I picked it because, say, ask this question. Well, yeah, it does say it's a problem. And it's very body builder-esque.

And here's another example of like, because I know for a long time, we tend to pick on machines a lot, but here's where sometimes using machines have their value when I'm trying to isolate a part of the shoulder or take out something. The traps are a stabilizer muscle shoulder. So there's no way around it not working,

but I'll tell you, doing something slow, controlled, and with isometric contractions, right? And with a lightweight is less likely to develop the traps than something that is done with speed or power or heavy, heavy loaded. You're gonna do something like that. Those traps are gonna have to stabilize that heavy, heavy load, especially on free weights,

compared to maybe doing something like a reverse fly on a cable machine or a shoulder press on a machine like there's certain ways you could do that. You know it's funny people are like, oh overhead presses will develop the traps like crazy. I've seen more trap activation in laterals from people who do them wrong. Sure. Then overhead pressers. Laterals, first off if you do them right, you don't really, the traps stabilize a little bit, but it's all dealt. But you see people do laterals, first off, if you do them right, you don't really, the traps stabilize a little bit,

but it's all delts. But you see people do laterals. Yeah, heavy laterals are definitely unique. You know it's funny, see I was working out with Justin, him and I were doing laterals at the same time. He was doing upper back trap laterals, I was doing side-delt laterals, bodybuilder versus, obviously, athlete.

It's very different. I was noticing that too, like, I'm doing these totally different now. Yeah, and one is't wrong or the other, they're just different, right? But if you want just shoulder development, it's your keep your shoulders kind of depressed, lean forward a little bit.

It's all here with the hand facing down. You want more trapped development. It's gonna be a little more movement, a little bit more external rotation, squeezing the upper back a little bit. So, laterals, in my opinion, are more responsible for this than anything else, because a lot of people will do laterals the way you do, Justin, because it allows you to move more weight. They're not necessarily athletes, they want to develop the shoulders.

Like, why don't you just boil down to more focus on mind muscle connection? Yeah. And so, if you just want to... If this is a serious goal of yours, is to really just hyper connect to deltoids and really just make sure that you do very slow control and with lighter weight. Well, that's my point of the machines, right? So if you ideally you have the ability, right, you've worked on the mind muscle connection that you can use free weights and still be able to do like what's out the point sales making right now, but a good way to regress that to get that place

is to use machines to kind of help until you get really good at knowing how to isolate parts of muscle, even though it's impossible to completely isolate a part of a muscle. You can do, you definitely can do, you can redirect, you have more force. You can definitely do a shoulder press or a lateral raise or a rear fly with very little trap involvement

or a lot of trap involvement. And what really makes a difference is your ability to connect to what part of the shoulder you're really targeting and think about that as you're moving through it and avoid the, you know, erratic, heavy kind of like movement during a specific movement that you're trying to target a part of shoulder. Yeah, I mean, Rose, like if you don't shrug your shoulders,

you depress the scapula, bring them down and back, you're not gonna use tons of upper trap muscles. If you shrug their shoulders while you row, which some people do, then you're gonna get a more trap development. Obviously pull ups, pull downs, almost no upper trap activation because the weight's coming down, but I don't think you should just stick to that.

I've had female clients or trainers even say all I do Or pull downs from my back to avoid building my upper traps and they end up developing really bad forward shoulder because they don't Strengthen those mid and back vessels very well and they end up with this not good look anyway So I mean avoid shrugging avoid explosive Explosive movements and and train your shoulders and back like a body builder. Where it's mind and muscle. Don't train like an athlete because if you do explosive athletic type movements, you're going to involve the traps quite a bit. This is why it's some athletes is that you football players. I don't think they ever do shrugs, but you see lots of cleans and explosive movements and they got

incredible, you know, trap development. Next question is from Folvio Castle. What's the best way to attract someone into fitness when they seemingly don't care? Oh gosh, boy, that's a be the example. Yeah. I have a little answer. No, it really is. It's like talking to somebody that is like a Bible fumper, right?

And you're like, you're a way of leading people to Jesus is the wrong way. We're going to hell. Trying to force it down, people throw. It's always rejected. The same thing goes with fitness, man. If you are trying to tell them all the things they're doing wrong, or even all the things that you can do, I know a lot of people come from a good place.

This question always stems from somebody who has a partner, or a mother, or a father, who they care about. It's frustrating. Right, who they care about. I totally understand this because the first half of my career, I was asking the same question. Like, man, I want to save my family. Just like I think some of the Bible,

some of the people are thinking too. I think they come from a good place. I don't think they're trying to seem self-righteous, but it comes off self-righteous. And so do you, when you try and push people on fitness and the best way to do it is to exude it, is to be the person who lives that breath. No, it's not a guarantee, it's only successful way though.

Yeah, exactly, it's not a guarantee even then, it's just, but it is the only way that I think it's going to catch. Yeah, I've done that because I was like, I was just trying to force it on everybody and I'd go in my parents' house and clean out the cabinets, piss them off, it never worked. And then I just stopped and you just kind of do your thing.

And then what you find is, and it doesn't work on everybody. So again, it's not a guarantee. It's just, if it's going to work the still in the way, you'll get people asking, like, man, you got so much energy. Or, man, you look really good. Like, can I do something to help me, you know, my shoulders more developed or to build my back better? Or, you know, I got pain here.

Can you show me some exercises? Now they're receptive, and you can kind of help them out. The other thing too is, if it's a partner, you know, make it something that has to do with connecting over with the two of you. And it doesn't, and don't make it structured workouts. This is a mistake. Like, hey, honey, let's go spend some time together,

follow my workout. It's not gonna work. How about like, let's go in the, hey, do you wanna go to the beach and do this hike and we'll have some nice lunch. Just go to the hikes, yeah. Yeah, and then you're active as a side-effective kind of something that they enjoy and then they'll start to maybe

find more enjoyment out of doing it. But you are not gonna force somebody to do something that they don't wanna do. If anything, you'll actually prolong the time it takes for them to try and do it. It's so true. It's 100%. Yeah, you just have to wait.

Well, you have to wait for them to come to you. It's like sales until people isn't sales. Like you can push somebody into a sale and then they're going to have buyers remorse and their, but we want to return it afterwards. But if you can pull them into a sale, make them feel like they're asking for or they want it. It's a total different experience for them. The same thing goes when you're trying to sell them on the idea of working out, being

fit and eating healthy. It's like the best thing to do is to, to beat, to live it by example, allow them to see how it carries over into your life and how it makes you such a better person without you having to say anything. And then eventually they ask, not all, like you said, but if you want it to stick and it to really change their life, the best way to do it is through your own. Next question is from Sarah Larson. What's the healthiest choice for alcohol? Oh yeah. That's a funny question. And now, okay, so before you answer the sal,

because I'm sure you have an answer for, when it's quote unquote, healthiest, right? The, if you read online and you go lose stuff, the answer you're gonna get is the lowest calorie one. Is there any other alcohol choices that provide any other, why, and I know that they tout the antioxidants, right? Can we look at gin, too? I've heard a lot of people touting gin is like a shot, like having some kind of health benefit to it. And I don't know if that's like, because vodka is one of the lowest

calorie, it is, like hard alcohol drinks. That makes the most sense. And so if you were going to, if you were going to do, quote unquote, healthy is you would do something like tonic water and vodka or vodka shot would most likely, and that's purely not because it's healthier but because it's low with lowest calories. Yeah, okay.

So first of all, there's no healthy alcohol. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Contrary to popular media, there are no health benefits to alcohol. Now, you could argue that maybe that health benefits could come from connecting with people, the traditions that they involve. And yeah, there's health benefits to that.

But the alcohol itself is not healthy. Now, you will read, and at all, by the way, it's connected. Any amount of alcohol increases risk of cancer, for example, and studies will show that. So it's just not healthy at all. It doesn't mean you shouldn't drink it. I enjoy alcohol sometimes. It's not that big of a deal.

Now as far as health is concerned, here's what you're going to hear. You're going to hear, well wine contains antioxidants and reservoir atrol. And gin contains these, you know, it's made from these berries. Ches and berries. Tokela's got this, these compounds that don't get utilized like sugar, so it's better on insolene. Okay, those are all such like, they always use the antioxidant angle.

It's, all of them are these minuscule, like benefits to any of these drinks. First of all, you're not gonna drink enough wine to gain, whatever benefit you get from the antioxidant stuff. Come all of negates. Totally. Get as much from smelling a strawberry. Yes.

Blueberries, you know, just eat a couple of blueberries, you know what you want to look at is what the biggest impact on my health negatively is going to come from the calories from the alcohol itself. I could say this, you may be able to make an argument about having a small, hermetic effect, if it's not that much, but you're introducing it almost as like, anything else is like plants provide certain hermetic effect

because of certain toxic elements there. Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, if you look at the studies on alcohol, buy itself, it's just not healthy. Again, though, sometimes it's connected to health because sometimes it's connected to other behaviors that may be healthy. For example, traditions, rituals, you know, maybe it helps you connect with your friends. Obviously, you can overdo that as well.

But buy itself, no, it's not healthy. So you, okay, if you want to pick the healthiest, you go with the lowest calorie, and you hit the knee on the head. It's vodka. Bodybuilders had it right. You look at bodybuilders when they go drink, what do they have?

Vodka, you know, water, vodka soda water, vodka tonic or whatever. So it's gonna be the lowest calorie thing. Now here's what I have to say about this. If you're gonna go drink alcohol, here's the real benefits of it. It's the environment the people you're with. Are you enjoying yourself in which case? I don't care. What kind of alcohol you're drinking? Pick the one that you enjoy because that's the

point, right? It's the whole point of, in my opinion. Yeah, that's if you're looking for one that's the healthiest, you're probably doing it too often. No, that's a really good point, Justin, because I mean, we just, we were just in Florida. We would, at the day that South flew, Doug, Justin and I, we basically laid out on the beach all day. You had a little flag and they bring you over drinks and food. And I had decided that this is a very rare occasion that the three of us lay out at the beach all day and have someone serving drinks to us.

Not once did it cross my mind, ooh, what should I, I should get the lowest calorie one. I wanted the one, I wanted the joy because that's what I was doing at that point. It wasn't like a mission to get drunk. It wasn't just another weekend where I'm getting drunk again. It's like, this doesn't happen very often. I want to, we're in the sun, a, you know, fruity, daiquery type of drink, which is not something I would drink if I was in a bar or At a wedding or something like that It was the for the moment and it never crossed my mind How many calories it has compared to something? Yeah, I think you're missing the bow and you're right Justin if you're like

Really like trying you know get all the healthiest options, but we probably drink you so much In which case yeah, then it might you might want, yeah, why don't you start by drinking glass, but yeah, the point isn't that, right? So if I drink alcohol, I don't think to myself, what's the healthiest option, unless I drink a lot, I guess, it would be, what do I enjoy drinking, and I'm doing this with my friends,

and that's the whole point, it's like, it's like if I go out to eat pizza, like yeah, I could get the healthiest pizza version, but why not get the one that tastes the best because I'm with my friends and I'm enjoying myself, you know, type of deal. So I think that's the whole point. Now, I will say this, you can, you know, we work with a company called ZeeBiotic and ZeeBiotic does, I mean, this is a pretty wild product. It definitely has a huge impact on the negative effects that I get from alcohol. Like when I drink alcohol, first off,

I used to rarely almost never drink it because I always felt like complete garbage the day after. Always. And so I almost never, I was like almost never, just wasn't worth it, didn't matter, didn't have it. Now you'll see me have the occasional alcohol because the Zeybaotics, I don't get that same inflamed, crappy feeling afterwards, which I guess comes from this byproduct of alcohol

that your body has trouble kind of breaking down in which case the zybotics. So that's one thing you could do. In other words, pick the drink you want to have, enjoy yourself with your friends, and if you want to do something that'll maybe reduce some of the negative effects than do the z-bottles, but don't worry so much about the type of alcohol. Look, if you like our show, you got to head over to MindPumpFree.com, check out our guides. We have all kinds of guides. They're all free, by the way, that can help you with almost any fitness or health goal.

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