Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1796: How to Stay in Shape When You Travel, Strength Training for the Endurance Athlete, How to Properly Prepare the Body to Lift Heavy & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Ladies, don’t be afraid to go on a bulk. Most of the time, it’s exactly what you need to do to get the body you want. (4:05) New product alert from Paleo Valley! (9:30) Justin rids his house of the ‘demon’ relic and inflation woes. (12:18) Another case for the benefits of donating blood. (16:25) Cool Science News with Sal: California start-up sends tiny robots on a voyage into brains. (20:03) Mind Pump Recommends: Raised by Wolves on Netflix.  (21:25) The importance of knowing when to increase volume and when to back down. (24:38) A high school football update with Justin: Hosting a lift-athon for the kids, programming updates, and lessons he is learning about himself. (28:08) Tech billionaires rally around nuclear as the energy crisis looms. (33:36) Mark Zuckerberg spends how much on security?! (36:06) Mind Pump joining TikTok, debating short vs. long-form video, and being a visual vs. audio learner. (41:58) Sal’s favorite new shirt from Vuori. (53:38) #ListenerLive question #1 – Any insight on the best way to stay in shape while traveling? (55:17) #ListenerLive question #2- What program would you recommend to complement my marathon training? (1:05:45) #ListenerLive question #3 – Any suggestions on how you would approach programming for a client with postural deviations? (1:17:19) #ListenerLive question #4 – What is the best way to train to pass a military test? (1:26:38) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] April Promotion: Get MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Prime and Prime Pro all for $99.99! Mind Pump #1565: Why Women Should Bulk Why The Scale Is Not Always The Best Way To Measure Progress – Mind Pump Blog Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP15 at checkout for 15% discount** Regular Voluntary Blood Donation Reduces Forever Chemicals Linked to Obesity, Diabetes and Cancer, Study Claims This start-up wants to send tiny injectable robots into human brains to fight cancer Raised by Wolves | HBO Max Originals Help donate to the SLV COUGAR FOOTBALL LIFT-A-THON Tech billionaires rally around nuclear as energy crisis looms Meta spent a record $27 million on Mark Zuckerberg's security and private jet travel in 2021 Mind Pump on TikTok Watch They Shall Not Grow Old | Prime Video Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout* MAPS Aesthetic How Fast You Lose Muscle When You Stop Working Out The Resistance Training Revolution – Book by Sal Di Stefano MAPS Fitness Performance MAPS Prime Pro Webinar How To Do The Sled Push The RIGHT Way! (AVOID MISTAKES!) - Mind Pump TV MAPS Starter MAPS Fitness Anabolic MAPS Resistance Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Becky Campbell (@drbeckycampbell)  Instagram Laurie Christie King (@lauriechristieking)  Instagram Shanna Mota (@shannamota)  Instagram Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck)  Instagram Andy Frisella (@andyfrisella)  Instagram Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu)  Instagram

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email your question to live at mindpumpmedia.com. Now, we open the episode with an intro portion. This is where we talk about current events and fitness and science. We mentioned some of our sponsors. Today's intro was 47 minutes long. After that, we got to the questions. Here's what went down to today's show.

We opened up by talking about how women, don't be afraid to go on a bulk. It could definitely benefit you. Then we talked about one of our sponsors, Paleo Valley, they have turkey sticks now. These things are delicious, 40 calories, seven grams of protein for a turkey stick. You eat three of them, it's under 200 calories,

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This guy's always getting hurt over here. Then we talked about the security that Zuckerberg has. How much money he spends, you won't even believe how much money it is. And then we talked about the new shirt that I'm wearing right now. It's a Strato Tech Polo shirt from Viori. Now, if you're not watching this on YouTube right now

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She wanted to know how to stay in shape when she was traveling a lot. The next question was from Heather from Texas. She's a marathon runner. Wanted some advice on how strength training to support her endurance training. Then we talked to Amethyst from California. They're a, she's a trainer. Wanted to know how to train her total beginner clients. So people have never exercised with any type of resistance.

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Yeah, yeah. No, even if you want to lose weight, because oftentimes going on a slight bulk with strength training speeds up the metabolism and sets you up for better fat loss. But nonetheless, lots of women know the look that they want, but they associate that with smaller or lighter on the scale. It's not always the case. Often what it is is more shape and more muscle, more sculpt. And you only get that through feeding yourself and strength training. You've got to feed yourself in order to get that. I love repeating this message. I just feel like it isn't promoted as much as it should be.

Like it's so silly that if you think about building the body up, you need to feed the body, you need the calories, you need the building blocks in order to get that desired physique that a lot of women are going for. It's just, it's just so much marketing is around how to lose weight, how to lose fat and like it's just this constant kind of hamster wheel that I find a lot of my clients got. I want to think it's getting more popular.

I mean, right before we got on air, we were talking about two of our friends, Becky Campbell and Laurie Christie King and both of them. I mean, great. Becky Campbell just did the post, right? I'm showing her her showing her bulk and her transformation and so that's the title of Phenomo. And then I feel like LCK has been saying that for quite some time now.

So I want to believe that where I do still think general population, I think still don't get this message, but I feel like the fitness community is starting to... In just the last seven years, by the way. Yeah, or even last, right? Since we started, I've noticed a shift that our women are starting to get this message, which is good because if you feed the body

and you strength train, you build a machinery that's required to burn body fat. And muscle is, here's something else that's a lot of people don't know. Muscle takes up just a little more than two thirds of the space of body fat, right? So, excuse me, yeah, of body fat. So, if everybody watching this right now lost 10 pounds of body fat, right? So, excuse me, yeah, a body fat. So, if everybody watching this right now

lost 10 pounds of body fat, gained 10 pounds of muscle, you would weigh the same on the scale, but you would be significantly smaller. You'd be like one fourth smaller or something like that, right? Which is significant, but same body weight. You know, I used to sell a membership this way. I had a, I've told this story many times on shows

that I've been on. I think I've told it before on this show, but I had this female trainer that worked for me. I think you guys know her. She's like five to very sculpted, very strong, like the lift weights. And I would challenge potential members. And I'd say, I'll give you a free membership for a month

if you could guess within 10 pounds of this female trainer's body weight. And they would all guess 100. The highest I ever got was 110 pounds. Oh, she's 110 pounds. Then I'd have her stand on the scale. She was 130, 135 pounds. She was just lean with muscle,

but she looked very small. And it tripped people out that you could look that way. 20 pounds off. 20 pounds off. Yeah, first time I heard that story. Yeah, no, you were that way. I pulled that story out. I wonder if it was Homerra.

Or anyway. I've said that many times on the show, but I like to illustrate it because it's true. Like, you were not the worst. I pulled that straight. I wonder if it was Homerra or anything. I've said that many times on the show, but I like to illustrate it because it's true. Like, you look at me, right? I weigh about 210 pounds at six foot. My body fat sits relatively low, a little bit below 10%. If I was 210 pounds at 20% body fat, I would look very different, same weight on the scale.

And I think this speaks to the obsession with the scale as well, which really only tells you one piece of information, total body weight. It doesn't tell you body composition, doesn't tell you how you look, doesn't tell you any of that stuff. When I originally started social media, right, I'll turn on all that stuff.

This was what I was trying to highlight. So I had started and it was in the worship of my life at 212. And my before and after pictures that a lot of people that listen have seen, I'm the exact same way. Now I mind you, I went up and down a little bit, three to five pounds, right? Like, is that you ended the same? Yeah, in the same, but my body looks totally different.

Totally different. Like, if you were to guess, most people guessed it's like a 20 pound difference or more, but it wasn't. It was exactly the same way. And I think that's why this getting hung up on exactly what the scale is ridiculous because I could take a client who comes in at anybody way and say we can dramatically change the way you look

and keep your scale weight exactly the same. Yeah, my favorite thing to do was this with female clients who were on that, that continual diet, right? Always cutting calories, always trying to reduce, always trying to reduce. And they'd come in and I'd do my assessment and do all the stuff and then I'd convince them, hey, we're gonna increase your calories

to strength training. And use the blow them away because they would anticipate blowing up, like, oh my God, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna gain so much weight, this is gonna suck. And instead, what would happen is their weight would fluctuate a little bit, but their strength would go up like crazy. The strength would shoot up.

And then they would always say, I want you guys's opinion on it. I'm sure this happened to you many times, where your client didn't, where they'd say this to you. You know, the scale says the same thing, but people are coming up to me and saying, I look like a lost weight. Yeah.

And that happened to you guys all the time. Yeah, well, yeah. My skin looks different. Like, you know, there's just some things too, about balancing the hormones. If you've been in a calorie deficit for so long too, it really does affect your body and all kinds of other ways. You know, sleep and, you know, hair and skin

and like all these types of things. So it was just always interesting to me to see what they found as they were going through the bulk like how much it transformed their body. Speaking of calories, I saw that a sala had dug pulling up the macros on the paleo valley beef turkey sticks. I had no idea they were that low. Yeah. So the turkey stick so he's real low. Yeah. So the meat first off the reason why this is the reason why we were at Paleo Valley, they sent us a while ago meat sticks

and all of us were like whatever, not a big deal. We're not even gonna try them. And then our good friend, Shana, was the one that works with them. And we really respect her. She's like, no, you gotta try these. And they're really good, right? They're not dry, they taste fresh,

they're grass-fed, really good, whatever. And that's why we actually started working with them. Well, now they have one that's turkey. I have never had turkey jerky. That tastes good. Ever. It's always gross. I know, I was very skeptical, especially the flavor, too. It was like cranberry, orange.

That's what it says. Yeah, and I'm like, I don't know. And it literally, I think it's actually one of the better ones out of all of them. It's my favorite thing. Yeah, I was like, seven grams of protein and only what, 60 calories? No, 40. 40 calories. So, so about that for a second.

So literally you could take two of these. So if you want to go on the go and you want 14 grams of protein in the math or you want 21 grams of, I was just say, go three and you're still under 200 calories and be able to get 20 something grams of protein. Of, of, that's incredible. A very, of essentially whole foods, right? Because it's still packaged or whatever, but it's essentially Whole Foods. It's all Turkey and it's all very good and very low calorie.

And then the beef ones, I believe are 60 calories. I don't know, maybe Doug can scroll down. I know the beef ones are a little bit more because they're a little bit higher in fat. Yep, that's it right there. So 60 calories and a little bit lower protein. Is that the beef for us? No, those are Turkey.

They're both Turkey. Oh, they're both the ones cranberry orange. That's why Doug was saying that before the podcast, when he was like, that's interesting that one of them has got a gram of protein higher, because they both were turkey. Oh, my bad. What were the beef ones?

Were those more, were they like 70 and 80 calories? Okay, so a little bit more. Yeah, a little bit more. Well, that's not bad. I mean, still, if you can get 20 grams or more of protein and stay under 200 calories, that's just hard. Yeah, and packaged on the go,

you just hard to find that. And then also tasting good too, because there's some protein bars out there that actually have those metrics, but it's like, tastes like jagged. I give it to everybody. My kids like them and my kids are so hard to satisfy when it comes to anything that's even remotely healthy in fact

I have to lie to them Wait, is this gluten free? Yeah, wait is this low sugar? I think it's so mad when they fight on something's gluten free like now like especially if it's like a muffin or something Oh you tricked me man Did they really? Yeah, it's happened a few times but a few times, but like, you've tricked them so many times that, yeah, what are you gonna do? We tricked them so many times. I'm never as likely you're gonna catch on.

I wonder why. There's no spider in that, son. Hey, you returned your, your devil worshipping thing, huh? I did, yeah, I didn't talk about that. I don't call it that. Dude, it was like, here's the thing, I? I did, which you got on top of that. I'm not talking about that. Don't call it that. Dude, it was like, here's the thing. I look at it again, it wasn't that menacing, when there's a lot of light on it.

Yeah. So when I had the pictures, it was like outside. I should have took one where I had it stood up against the wall and there was only like one light that was hitting it from up top and the rest everywhere else was dark. And so it just cradly shadows. It was really the shadows that made it just like,

like the face kind of took form and shape. Anyway, I didn't even really have that much, like I wasn't that afraid, it was my kids. And the other ones that like pointed it out to me. So I was like, I don't wanna like, well kids are more in time. They're more in time with the spirit world. So you're gonna listen to your kid. Apparently, she's going on, according to the movie Six was like, I don't want to like, well kids are more in line. They're more in tune with the spirit world. So you're gonna listen to your kid.

Apparently. Should go in order according to the movie, six senses, right? Any more, it's kids and pets, right? Is there any kids and pets that see shit? Yeah. Any more like weird, strange paranormal phenomenon? Are you good now?

No, we're good now. I took it, we drove it all the way back and we were able to change it. I can't wait to do that. He did a day trip all the way down there just to return that thing. Because you know what was gonna happen? I was gonna have it headed in my garage

and then I was gonna put it in the shed and then it was like, you spent all this money and then you forget about it. It's gonna collect spider webs and dust. I'm like, I gotta, I gotta like, take some action and so it was exhausting because the whole day we drove all the way down there and we're trying to do all,

like get all this like exchange and different furniture and then we drive right back and it's like, you're, that's six hours of just nonsense. What did you say? What did they say to you and what did you say to them? I told Quar, I'm like, dude, we're just gonna bring it back and we didn't work for a house. It just, it wasn't a good told court, I'm like, dude, we're just gonna bring it back, but it didn't work for our house.

It just, it wasn't a good look or, you know, whatever. She's just like, yeah, the kids thought it looked like demons, so we just didn't want it in the house. And like they were laughing about it. I'm like, I'm surprised you're giving us some money, man. Like the movie, Grandma Lens when the guy buys the pet, you know? And he's like, okay, just don't feed it after midnight.

Don't get a wet. Oh yeah, no problem. Yeah. Did you get anything else when you were there? Or did you just take it back? So he changed it for these other chairs, which are supposed to come, I don't know, based on the supply chain five years from now.

Bro, have you guys seen the numbers of inflation? Yeah. So they say official 8.5%. But have you seen the numbers of breakdowns of stuff? They say it's over that. Bro, gas this year, over 40%, used cars over 25%, furniture, something like over 16%, plane flights over 25%. First of all, I don't know where they get their inflation numbers. If they take out everything people buy to get 8.5%, I don't know.

But it's crazy. Do you know what I find the most interesting? What the freaking gas is that your debit card only lets you do like a hundred bucks or whatever on there. So it's like you can't even get a full tank anymore. Yeah. And I'm like, so I had, so I, I just pumped gas yesterday.

Fill it, fill it. That's a security measures, isn't it? Yes. And so then I got to re, re, hook it back up, then swipe the card again and then do it again just so I get a full tank of gas. So annoying. Wow. Oh, speaking of, because so when we were driving down, we were actually at a gas station.

This guy, when we were pulling out, we saw this guy like, like, leaving, like really quickly, and he literally took the handle with him and pulled it off. I've seen that before. I've never seen that before. And it was like, I got really nervous. I'm like, oh my God, like hopefully nobody smoking a cigarette or something around here. Like it was spraying everywhere. Oh, so gas, what's spraying it? What's all over the place? I thought they had shut off mechanisms for that.

I thought so too. It obviously wasn't. No, I've seen it same thing. The guy left it in his tank and drove off and it ripped the thing right off the, oh yeah. And then it was sprinkled. You ever seen the video explosion here? You ever seen a video of the sky,

these two car jackers drive up to him when he's getting gas. They get out of their car, and then he gets the gas, and he just sprays them with it, and they run away. Oh, yeah. He's like, just, hoesing him down with gas, and they run. Smart. I saw the video on my, is he gonna let him on fire? What's he gonna do?

Yeah. They just ran away. Yeah, it's gonna be cool. You're like, do you guys know what the chemical? I think it's called poly-florinated alcohol substances are PFD. Definitely do, I know what that is. I definitely watch my face with that.

Okay, no, PFAS. PFAS, so poly-florinated alcohol substances. These are molecules that you'll find, or synthetic chemicals you'll find in non-stick pans, non-stick carpet, you know, clothes, water resistant materials. And there's a lot of controversy around these things because they are found in our blood, like they just don't go away. And so there's a lot of controversy saying, hey, this may be a cancer risk, this may be a... Is there long-term studies with us at all?

They think that they might act like Xenosestrogens. Yeah. And they may increase risks of certain types of cancers. That's why there long-term studies with this at all? They think that they might aclyzinoestrogens and they may increase risks of certain types of cancers. That's why there's a lot of controversy around them. So like I don't use non-stick pans. I use ceramic pans if I'm gonna use anything that's even cast iron. Or cast iron.

If I use anything that's like, if I'm doing eggs and I want something that's kind of non-stick, it's ceramic, which is it's not the same, right? But anyway, did you know that they did a study and they finally found a way to reduce blood levels of this chemical? Giving blood.

Oh, wow. Giving blood, so donating blood or donating plasma. You made evil measures. I'm proud of something. Get all the demons out of the letting. So donating blood or plasma, they found in the study reduces the amount of PFA, PFA's in people's blood. Now I'm assuming that's how you found this, because you've decided that you're going to start doing this on a more regular basis.

Actually, no, it was random, but you're right. I have decided. Oh, that's weird. So you randomly came across that, and that just supports even more reasons. Yeah, because I saw the title of the article, I said, new evidence shows blood or plasma donations can reduce the PFA's forever chemicals they call them in our bodies. And I thought, oh, this is gonna be really interesting. And my blood type is the universal one. So that's, they encourage me to come back or whatever. But I guess that's more benefit, right?

To giving blood is that you can get rid of some of these chemicals. I wonder what else you potentially can get rid of then too. If you get something like that goes, which makes it a forever chemical. Does that mean the person getting the blood then gets those PFA's or like what's going on? Is that how it's reduced to?

Yeah, you just give, you just fucks the recycling in. You're good. That's what. That's what. Don't they screen that? I don't think they test for that. They test for chemicals, they just test for like disease,

blood, borne pathogen, what not. You're gonna say something. Trust me, if you need blood, you're not they test for that. Test for chemicals, it just tests for like a disease, blood-borne pathogen. You're gonna say something. Trust me, if you need blood, you're not so concerned about it. I guess you're imagining that. That's a good point. Your wife is dying. Hold on a second. That blood have an honest memory.

That's kind of like G of O's. And you guys have done this before, it's like one of my biggest pet fees. Like you're giving money or you're buying somebody, like I've seen people before, like near Burger King, something I go through, drive through to get them food. And they like have like a special like request you know it's not like I can't just give them a burger it's like no no I don't want this I want that for your starving take the good damn burger bro. I had that yeah I had a guy on the street like

that I was trying to give him my left over and he's just like did you already take a bite? And I was like, yeah. Well, I'm good. Wow. You're good? You're right here on the street, dude. You got none. All right. I don't have anything. You know, I'm not.

I'm cool. I just doored that stuff. I was offended. I had a guy once that I went up and I offered him food and he asked me for money and I said, sorry, I don't have cash. And he says, well, I have square. And he pulled out.

Shut your face. I just sort of got it. Oh my God, I told somebody to do that. That's crazy. He pulled out his phone. He had square. Now, I'm like, I'm not gonna give you. I don't know what else is gonna go.

But he's like, you can use credit card. I'm like, wow. This is resourceful. This is getting more creative. Anyway, more cool science news. So there's this, I gotta look this up. There's this disorder on the brain, very hard to treat. Dandy Walker syndrome.

It's a brain disorder you see in children. And there's a company that came up with a very unique way to potentially treat this by using tiny robots that they put in the brain. So these tiny robots, they'll put in the brain. And robots? And yeah, and they'll be operated through magnets. And what the robots will do is they'll go in the brain. So these tiny robots, they'll put in the brain. And robots? And yeah, and they'll be operated through magnets. And what the robots will do is they'll go through the brain

to wherever this fluid fill cysts are, and then inject the medicine directly where it needs to go. Now this is real. This is real. This is real. This is real. This is real. Now the potential for something like this is phenomenal.

Think about it. You have a tumor in your body. You can now have potentially these nano robots traveled directly to the tumor, inject the tumor with chemo directly. So it doesn't affect the rest of your body or whatever, right? Or treat some little army in there just. It's shooting things. Wild.

It's so wild. That's crazy. Yeah, I've been reading about some of these nano-bot, you know, nanotechnology advancements. The next 30 years can be really interesting for medicine. Well, it's crazy. It's here because I've been reading about a lot like popular science.

Yeah. It's like always like that was always so far in the future and to see like that that's actually coming true. Crazy. So speaking of sci-fi, I owe you to an apology because you guys actually recommended a good movie or show finally. It's the Raze by Wolves.

And so, That way hold on, what by what? Wolves. What? Raze by Wolves. Wolves. So I had, so I looked at it and I said, man, I saw that I had watched already three episodes

and it obviously didn't hook me in. And I'm like, well, let me give another shot. The guys were talking so much about it. So I did. And, you know, smoked a little weed before I did it. So, and I was, so I sucked into it. And what I found was that's what I had to do was you had to be know, you couldn't be distracted. So what I think I did before, it's actually pretty complex. It's, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. There's a pretty deep plot behind it and it could get really confusing

if you're kind of multitasking. It's not a multitasking watch show. So once it, now I'm in. Now I'm in. It's a massive, definitely not. Yeah, no, it's pretty cool. And what the idea behind, I'm excited to see where it goes. I thought you'd like it because there's,

I mean, the religious side of it, the atheist, it's just, it covers a lot of really profound ideas. It's well-made sci-fi, because sci-fi can be good if there's a good story, it's like the story's good. And if the science in it is somewhat interesting or believable, and they do a good job with that, but they do, they tackle religion,

and you know what they do in there? That's gonna be hard, it's gonna be hard for you to figure out some only in the first season. Who you're pulling through. Yes, at one point you're like evil, that person's evil, that thing's in there and then you're like,

wait a minute. Right, in the human psychology and how the robots are becoming more human and they're struggling with that, they don't want to, but then, you know, the humans also want, you know, guidance from AI and it's complex. Well, to me, that's what makes a really good show

is if it can emotionally pull me from one side to the other. And you're not like, to me, like, if you watch a show and you've kind of, oh, I figured the plot out, I, you know, I see where this is going. I agree with the versus, if I'm watching something and one minute I feel very emotionally attached to one side or one character, and then all of a sudden I get switched to another.

To me, that's great writing. If you can make me go through that back and forth in my head versus like identifying with one way or one thing through the whole thing. You know what is cool? Is that, again, I'm a big sci-fi nerd. You'll notice that they'll borrow off of old sci-fi, like, for example, AI robots that look human.

So humanoid robots in sci-fi movies, whenever they bleed, what colors the blood, almost always white. It's almost always white. You ever notice that? Almost always. You know what I think that first started? Alien. Remember the movie Alien, how the Android robot that helped Sigourney Weaver

Whatever and then he gets cut half and it's like white blood coming I feel like that's the first Movie to show that wasn't that because of like hydraulic fluid Like you know maybe huh. I didn't think of that I thought the way that first episode open was like crazy just with the the giving birth to six humans I know I thought that was kind of, that was trippy. Trippy. Yeah, I was like, you're like six. Yeah, almost got a litter. I mean, it almost seems like believable.

Like, could we get to a place like that where we could do something like that? That seems pretty fast. I know. So, Adam, I want to ask you about your new injury. So what's going on with your, you would think after all these years and all the experience, like wisdom, you would think, you know, I, I've just recently in the last few weeks, ramped up my volume and training, starting to tighten the diet up and stuff. You could tell.

Well, I, you know, what I found when I was doing, I was calling Justin Fatalot and he looks way better than I do. And I was like, I'm totally projecting my own shit on him. So I pick up Doug Bold. Yeah, I got myself doing that. And like more often than not, I'm like, I must be projecting my own insecurities about myself right now.

So that was kind of my wake up call to I need to get my shit together. So I could tell you've been working out. You look like your body's been training, but would you just go too hard? Well, so I hadn't done the Yoke bar in a while. And, you know, not that I don't know this, I should know better, like the amount of core strength

and stability, man, way more. Way more, way more. It's good to sit so high on your back. Yeah, and I've been consistently barbell back squatting for quite some time, even when my frequency was, and volume was down, but I hadn't used that in quite some time, even when my frequency was in volume was down, but I hadn't used that in quite some time. And so my leg felt really strong.

So I get under there and it's like, oh yeah, this was light, I keep adding, keep adding, keep adding. And what gave was my core. And so I strain my, my mid back, I don't think it's a me, I didn't tear or do anything structurally wrong. Like it's, it's just a strain. And I know it's because I didn't tear or do anything structurally wrong. Like it's just a strain. And I know it's because I didn't have the core strength

and I didn't slowly allow myself to progress there. And because my legs were still pretty strong from being consistent there, I just, did you feel it in the workout or after? No, I felt it in. Like, oh, I feel something in the couch, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I backed off it.

I still continue to work out. I lifted yesterday, but I had to do a bunch of like, you know, isolation, like, and cable stuff. You saw me probably laying on the ground doing some stuff on the free motion. Like, so I mean, I'm still staying consistent, but now it's like, you know, it's such an example, right? If you've trying to make progress, getting excited about the, you know, having some momentum. And now because I do something stupid like this, it would ego lifting by stacking more than was necessary. Now I'm gonna probably have to regress for a week. You know what, doesn't rebuild a bit?

This is a good thing to communicate because we're constantly communicating like fitness advice to our audience. And when we say something is hard to do, it's because we realize, we know how hard it is either because of our clients, but also because of ourselves. Like, and I wanna be very clear here,

often this doesn't happen when you're using a weight that looks crazy to you. It's just a little more than you do. And that wasn't even, did you see the weight on the bar? It was like 200 pounds, it's not like. That's what I mean. So it's not like you're hitting a PR,

it's just you haven't done it in a while. And really what you should do is keep it easy. And not make it even moderate intensity. I do that all the time. I mean, I hadn't even done that move in it so long that it wasn't even necessary for me to low more. I just felt so good. My legs felt so strong.

I was like, oh, just light, let me see. If I just keep increasing a little bit and was, yeah, that's a bit. Yeah, I'm trying my best to not get sucked into the hype as well. I told you guys, I don't like how I was like over-ed pressing way too much, you know, just because of the hype. Did you do another workout with him?

Today, like I actually refrained from displaying my, your awesomeness, awesome prowess. He's like, I went heavy for them But I could have you know You know why cuz we had we had this kid who's like he he can't make most of the workouts because he's he I think he plays Baseball right now But he's definitely our strongest kid and he just kind of shows up sometimes like towards the end of some of the workouts to hang out and see what's up But he cares he cares about

Everybody in there knowing like he's the strongest so he'll flex and so he came down He did that when we were testing out for squats And so of course we're testing out for like trap bar deadlifts and so Said and you know he shows up. Oh, look who it is And just totally like smashed everybody and put up 400 pounds. Is he significantly stronger than the rest of the kids? By about 50 pounds. So it's pretty big up.

Yeah, that's pretty different. So he's a beast. But yeah, I mean, it's been really fun because I've been able to see some kids that had no experience. And this one kid who's like really into wrestling. And I'm like, oh, wrestlers have it. They have it here. And so I could tell he was going to be, you know, a kid that was going to catch on he has. And he's just really rapidly progressing

with his strength gains. And this is all leading in. We're going to be doing a lift of thon like the end of May. So I'm like, a lift-a-thon. Start to ramp them up a little bit. That's how you're kidding. Hold on, what's the lift-a-thon? So lift-a-thon, we used to do this when I played a long time ago to raise money for the program.

And you can either donate like a flat amount or like what we do is like per pound. Oh. So I'm gonna host this one instead. We just did bench when I did it, but I wanna include the squat bench and deadlift and then do a grand total that they could pay 25 cents per pound.

Right, it's like what they do for laps. You know, kids that do laps. It's like a walkathon. We should all go. Yeah, I would love if you guys go and we'll do a barbecue after that. Oh, I totally think we should make a big deal about that. I think we should go and live a little bit.

Yeah, totally down into that. Bro, and I, you know, and I don't have time to do shit, but I was like, I put a whole website and all that. So it's all ready. Like they're already starting to get donations. Oh, that's great, dude. So yeah, it's good. We're getting momentum.

Yeah, that's great. So you've now been doing this on, if you had wrote the programming for them, what are some of the things that you're learning yourself? Because this is obviously, somewhat, obviously you've written programs for kids and so that, but to be implementing it into this type of a setting, taking them through, are there things that,

you know, looking back now that you are like, yeah, that was, I'm so glad I did that. Or there are things that you're like, I wish I would have implemented more this. Or there are certain things that you had to cut out. Or like, what are you learning about yourself and programming with this one? A lot, yeah, because group is different dynamic, obviously.

And just what to cover, what are the priorities? That was, it took me a lot of time to sift through all that and like, restructure it. I restructure the workouts a few times. But I was really glad I started them out with isometrics and really slowed everything down. And you know, because everybody was hyped to start lifting. I'm like, no, we got to address all these imbalances. And we did lateral training in there a bit, very similar to symmetry. Yeah.

type of a plan, which was, we were all in that sort of thought process. So that helped me in the beginning. But now we're now we're sort of graduating into getting them acclimated to to heavy or weight because it's a totally different skill. Once you really start trying to push yourself and I'm like, so I'm learning that balance of like not trying to get them to max too often and or like pull them back a bit, leave two in the tank, our sort of core principles. They're not quite getting that yet. Like, you know, they're young. A bunch of dudes working on it. They're young, and they're ego.

And if the ego's real high in there. So that's something that I'm trying to kind of figure out. And then, so I'm, I'm doing a lot of, in terms of like getting a good feel of like where everybody is catching on and then what, where the deficits are. It'll be interesting if you have like a kid or two who like adheres to everything you say like perfectly so you can use him as an example of like,

I have one, a kid I have like a, see that's cool. I'm like so pumped on him. Oh, see that's cool. That's such a great, these kids, I mean, I'm sure they're enjoying it, but they have no idea how valuable this is. Like as they get older, what they're gonna look back on and be like, man, I'm sure they're enjoying it, but they have no idea how valuable this is. Like as they get older, what they're gonna look back on and be like,

man, I learned some great value with my coach. The thing about the wrestling kid, that seems to be true. I remember in high school, the wrestlers were always insane when it came to the work ethic with workouts. Like ridiculous. They just have an extra motor.

Mental discipline. I think you have to, I think, maybe to make it through wrestling. It's so tough, dude. Well, you know, even though we have an extra motor mental discipline. I think you have to, I think maybe to make it through wrestling. It's so tough, dude. Well, you know, we've, even though we haven't wrestled, you know what the weight cut, right? Like cutting weight. We haven't wrestled like, you guys want to wrestle?

Man. But we've all been through a serious weight cut before, and when you do that, the mental discipline that it takes to be consistent with, because they have to come into a certain way. And they're also pushing their bodies and training the same. I just remember that,

because I did some wrestling with the high school, I never wrestled for my high school, but I took some of the practices, because at the time I did judo and my buddy invited me, and I remember the coach would crank up the heater. Crank it up, it's like a sauna sauna and then they're just going and going. And I'm like, these guys are crazy. They had a gas in them out constantly.

I don't know how to do this. Oh man, yeah, they have brutal workouts. Hey, so you guys want to hear about some interesting tech startup news? So I just looked this up the other day. So tech billionaires in Silicon Valley in particular are starting to invest in one segment of the economy in a big way. You guys wanna guess what that is?

Has to do with energy. Has to do with energy. As it is probably opposite of what we think, we would think green, but it's not green in some a different direction. Nuclear. Nuclear. They're going crazy with it.

So nuclear power, especially if you look at, because nuclear is like a pariah, I think the third rail because it's been a lot of negative publicity, demonized, right? The reality is nuclear power. Right now, if we were to look at all our technology that could potentially stop, you know, the fixed climate change, fixed the environment,

give us all the energy we need. We don't need to go pull it out of the ground, we don't need to rely on other countries, all that stuff. It's nuclear, creates very little waste, very little waste, and it has the potential to power the whole world and the new tech, they don't have meltdowns, like they're extremely safe. But they're scary, right? You're a politician, you try and say we're going to build nuclear.

There's a lot of, you know, bad publicity around that and all that stuff. But anyway, people are starting to figure it out. Check this out with the tech startups. So on average tech companies would invest like, I don't know, a hundred million, less than maybe three million, four million a year into nuclear in 2021, $3.4 billion. Wow.

And tech startups in focusing on nuclear energy, which is really cool. I mean, do you think we're gonna go that way soon? We will. Yeah. We will because we have to. With the pressure that we're starting to feel, with the prices, with the fact that.

So much conflict around oil. Yeah, and there's a lot of regulation around it, which is part of the reason why it's so hard to get. Yeah, isn't it trying to kick in our ass in that department? They're gonna be building, they're gonna be building, they're already building a tremendous amount of that. Right, and I think they can do it for like a fraction of the price that we do for it now,

because of all the regulations. Yes, but there are these new startups that are looking at building these small nuclear power plants that are gonna be much easier, much cheaper and could produce tremendous amounts of energy. And some of these nuclear, there's new tech for nuclear power, they can use waste from old nuclear power plants to power them. So they can literally take waste, use it as their new fuel to create energy.

It's really remarkable. And I'm glad we're seeing all this investment because this could be, this is a total game changer when it comes to energy independence. Well, speaking of tech billionaires, you guys see the article that's going around right now on Zuckerberg's security team. What? No, having. I just saw some article about him, like talking about, like removing himself from the election

stuff and politics. Yeah. So going forward. And I'm sure because of that, he ramps up a security because of all that. Any guesses on like what his security cost him like a day or a year ago? Oh, wow. That never thought that out. Now is it okay?

So you know the number of what perm- I do. I do. I know both. I know per month and then the- So per day is what you're- Well, I have the annual and then you could take a- Yeah. I would say- And I could have broken my per day too. I mean, you figure he's got probably 24 seven security. So it's got to be, it's got to be a million dollars.

Yeah, at least if you've got a big property, yeah, like Warren Buffett spends $260,000 a year on that. So to give you first some perspective. That's it. Yeah, but Warren Buffett's not targeted like, right, right. So that's not, that's why I just give you guys kind of a marker of like somebody at that level of, I say two million. I say a million. Yeah, 26.8 million dollars. That's a lot. What is he?

76,000 dollars a day like like really a day? Yeah, that's like MC Hammer like type coverage right there. Do you have like the Avengers? That crazy incredible whole Everybody's at earpieces. I saw that number. I'm like what the fuck? Hey, you know what though? Let's talk about how cool that would be imagine if you had $76,000 with a security with you every day you would talk shit to everybody Roll it The Avengers bro, what do you get for that? What do you get for 26.8 million dollars? They have like bionic arms and laser me? I so I wonder what the secret service costs of annually.

I don't know. Oh, it's ridiculous. Is it that much? Oh, that's crazy. I don't know if it's that much, but I know it's ridiculous. Yeah, 26.8 million per year. You're gonna get a bunch of like mercenary, you know, like. But seriously, think about how like, imagine,

like think about how in vulnerable, like you send your kids to your, hey, son, go walk over there and get me a thing. Don't worry, you're fine. You know, it's five years old, but he's got like, two security guards with him that are, you know, seven foot tall and yeah, What I did see on that article is if it did say that's like Extended family or it's but I think it's just I would imagine it's it's personal security plus property security Right because he's got huge property. Wouldn't you have like does that include it? No, I think it was just personal security

What are you looking up right now? Oh, you're looking at this. Just a video of his entourage. Oh, really? I mean, how many people can we... All you need is John Wick. You don't need anything else. Oh, yeah, so they all got suits on,

so you don't really aren't supposed to know. Wow. That's in 2017, 7.3. Wow. That's crazy. Can I tell you, if that was one of you guys, you how much I'd fuck with you? I would run up at a no where just to give you hugs, you's crazy. Can I tell you, if that was one of you guys, how much I'd fuck with you? I would run up at a no word just to give you hugs

to what happened. Hey! You know, get tackled, but it's 20 guys. All those guys. I wonder what, you know, you got to think that he must be getting some serious threats to increase it at that rate, right? To get that much.

Well, yeah. I mean, the technology he possesses and the information he has on like so many individuals, I bet you countries from around the world would love to capture him. Oh, wow. That's true. To just kidnap him and then... Oh, that's... I didn't think about that, Justin.

I think all his Facebook, login information. Plus, if you look at Zuckerberg, he looks very, like he's very easy to kidnap. Does he look like he would have very, could you ever see him drinking glass of water? Yeah. Come on, dude. He's never done it before. That would have been, when you see that's a good point though. I actually wouldn't even have thought that way, Justin. That's a, that's a, you be a target bite for international. That's, that's an interesting, Espionage or whatever, right? Well, it's so powerful.

Facebook is just insane. Well, look, here's a deal. Like they made, I've said this before, they made a big mistake. As soon as they started acting like an editor, you're gonna get attacked by one political party, then the other political party, then the public's gonna hate you,

and then you're just a target when you have that much. So that's, he should have done like, he should have just hands off. Oh, I don't know, I don't do anything about it. Not my mind. She just kept it like my space, dude What are you thinking? Oh, man? Did you guys have a Mrs. Tom now? You got it my space, right? Yeah, yeah, because I had a band like that was It was cool. Yeah, back then it was like you showcase your band you figured it was almost like having a flyer You know like you'd try and like get people to come to your show and I don't

know what else you were on there for, but to your creep, I guess, like message people. Does it still exist? Does it still exist? I don't know. Can't you look it up? I know that they I know they sold I think Doug stills on my face. They pulled my old bands. I mean, each year though. I was so mad. Doug's original MySpace is a is it is a tablet? It's a it's a stone tablet They found it in the Egyptian did you ever ate? Did you ever have my space? Don't never did you never never why would you know my pick? I didn't have a Myspace either you did no Why would I have a Myspace? You are very cool either so I could get that just and I were held cool So we had my so cool. I know what I wish I could

We're just to see how cool you were. You wish I could make a major hinder with my back. No, I was. No, I was it. A pre-sure. That's hilarious. Remember they sold for like,

I don't remember how many billions of dollars and they went nowhere? What a shitty buy. Did they sell? Yeah, I didn't know that. I thought they just got crushed. No, they got so. You know who scored the most?

I think it was like, dang, cook. Remember how you got so popular? And like started doing arenas and everything? It's because like he was one of the first to really adopt like the social media. I knew. He was all over my space and like blew up. Maybe Doug can find out.

There's always like examples that people that adopt like these things they end up taking off and that come up with. I mean, look at the supplement companies. You have like, we remember we used to give shreds, shit like crazy. Yeah, the first form guy did it, Andy Vercell did a good job with it.

Like if you get in early and you're one of the first to like, figure that out. And you have a whole new one. Yes, no. You know what though? It's weird though. I was actually having this conversation with my cousins because I was telling them about our TikTok video.

So we finally have a TikTok. Yeah, we're all of us together. Yeah. No, we don't do that. Hey, can I say something else? I told our producer, one of our other producers, I said, if we ever come to you and say, we want to dance for TikTok videos,

then you should go find another job. You know that? So we should went down. My purpose to it. Yeah, it's fucked, they're out of money. No, no, it's clips of our podcast and stuff, but we finally put, we put one up that went viral. I think it's at like 1.2 million views in a couple days.

Yeah. But I was talking to my cousins about this, and they were like, oh wow, like does that mean you make a ton of money? Like what's going to say, no, it actually doesn't mean anything yet. A lot of people think that it immediately means you have this huge conversion or whatever,

but it doesn't necessarily mean that. Katrina really oversees the team that we hired to do all that stuff. And he was just the other day talking to her and was really trying to encourage her to encourage us to go start all over. Indowage when she goes, um, I'm definitely not going to go tell him to do that.

Yeah. This is. That's like I got to go relearn the mock range. It's like a good, very well. I thought you see me dance on Tik Tok. Yeah. Can you get negative views? That's what I'll get.

I actually did subscribe. I mean, at this play, I was saying like my justification for us doing is a little bit of a playing defense because we've now got to a place now where we have so much free content out there that there was people that were taking clips of our stuff and growing their self, their own personal page. So to me, it me, it's like, as if we can become the, you know, the official mind pump page and at least have our consistent content going out there and be the biggest that are, at least representing ourselves, it's a little bit of just so we can protect our own real estate. Yeah. What's the, what are the demographics? You know this Adam better than anybody.

What are the demographics of, I know it's younger. Oh, yeah, it's like 12, 12, I mean, Andrew might even know that better than me. 12, I'd say 12, the like 20 something is the range for TikTok. Doug probably looked at it. Is that what it is? Yeah, it's really young. I mean, really, really, I go, TikTok is the youngest.

Yeah. Then second would be what, Instagram? Snapchat. Oh, Snapchat. Yeah, TikTok. Yeah, TikTok, Snapchat, then I believe Instagram and then Facebook. And then Facebook, Snapchat. I'm like, no. Yeah, TikTok. Yeah, TikTok snapchat. Then I believe Instagram and Facebook and then Facebook. Snapchat. No, no, no.

Yeah. I actually think Facebook's really is, is, is been bleeding for a while now. I think they're actually having a really hard time. They're trying to get, I know, in Venn of and do different things like to, to try and drive traffic back to them, but speaking of new services, you guys, you see an N plus came up with a streaming service. And it tamed so bad they're doing like layoffs or whatever. What?

Didn't they have like 10,000 subscribers or something? Yeah, it tanked. So they had to like do a bunch of like, oh yeah, what's that happens when you lose trust? Oh yeah, it's between 18 and 24. Oh wow. Yeah. 18 and 24, 57% are female, 43% male, almost even split,

but that's interesting. Yeah. What about Pinterest? That one's mostly female, right? Yes. That's a much higher female audience. Okay. And I think that's actually got a higher age because, I mean, at least I know Katrina

uses Pinterest like crazy. Yeah. And now again, correct me if I'm wrong again. And I'm not just saying this to... I'm embarrassingly use Pinterest. Do you really? Yeah. That's how I come up with like furniture and stuff.

Oh, I've used range room. No, Pinterest is like a solid, bro. Yeah, a lot of cool stuff. I haven't been on there forever. Design, it helps. Yeah. That's why I think it attracts an older demographic, for sure. What do you say?

I was gonna say, and this is not to blow smoke, but from what I've read, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, this I know, such a real house, that the podcast audience is the wealthiest, highest IQ, more affluent. Is that true? Yeah, yeah, no, older, smarter, more successful. Somebody listening to this. I'm not suggesting that because we're on a podcast. I mean, it has a long tail too.

It's just your attention span. And a lot of podcasts originally started as like, you know, uh, either political authors. So it's, it's going to attract somebody who reads or somebody who's into learning, like, that's typically why you, you, right, you originally listen, now it's changing and it's attracting a younger audience. And there's more entertainment happening. But the original, like podcasts that were out there were way more like informative. You know, they were news, authors, like, say,

that's not a little clip. So that would assume that that's going to be a little bit of one. Do you consider that with your kids, Sal? I know like Adam, you know, it's going to be a little ways for you, but like, because my kids are like drawn to the short classes and I keep telling them, this is junk food. We need long-form content,

you need to be able to learn something from what you're doing or have takeaways or even if it's entertaining, they need to try a little bit, not just make loud noises and flash. So I get torn, right? Because my kids definitely consume a lot of YouTube. And sometimes I'm like, oh, it's garbage.

But then every once in a while, a conversation will pop up. And my daughter and my son will know some really interesting information about, you know, Fibonacci sequence. Well, I'm like, how did you learn that? Oh, I watched a YouTube talk or something. Yeah, no, YouTube. Yeah, no, neither one ever on TikTok. But they're just, they also will learn a tremendous amount. Yeah, from YouTube. So yeah, because my, because Ethan healed, he is so into World War Two. And I'm like, which is great. Like, I

love that he's in history and all this stuff, but he's always like bringing up like, so what do you, what do you think Hitler, what was his motive, you know, like bring up Hitler a bunch of times while we're like eating dinner out in public. I'm like, okay, let's like change the subject. This kind of makes me more comfortable around this. Like I get your passionate about it, but like, you know, he wants to know, he's like, why was, you know,

why did he think, you know, all these like know. He's like, why was, you know, why did he think, you know, all these like terrible ideas? Like, he's trying to get me explained. You know why they say world war, because World War II is one of the most popular wars to learn about, and it's because it's one of the wars where there was a clear bad guy. Like a lot of wars, you can make the case that,

oh, who is the bad guy? It's ultimate villain. It's like, that is one war was like, we had a bad guy. You know what I mean? Like a movie, right? War War One is interesting. Have them watch while we were young or something like that.

There's this documentary with Peter Jackson, who produced it. Yes. And it is phenomenal. It's all footage from War War One, but they colorize it. And then they have, they filmed it when some of these soldiers were still alive, so like in their 90s, and they're talking through what it was like. It's insane. It's insane what these kids did. They

were all kids, dude. It's 17, 18 years old. You know, back to the short clip, Todd, they were just like, what I find really interesting is how we adapt to that. Like do you guys remember? So my first experience seeing like something really fast and short choppy clips like that was actually someone introduced me to Logan Paul like years ago, like when he first like started. And I remember him like, I'm like, oh yes, he just jumped.

Yes, the quick jump cuts and fat, fat, fat, fat. And I remember it was so annoying, but we've, I've now been fed that so much that I'm totally used to consuming content. So I wonder if we are just a bunch of old funny duddies right now, and we're like, oh, long, slower form. Like, you want to know how?

Also wisdom. Yeah. Yeah. No, you want to know how? Watch children's programming from the 70s and 80s and you'll realize just how much it's changed. If you've ever watched Mr. Roger. Yeah, he talks about that in the documentary where he would intentionally pause for like a whole minute and talk slow.

Like that was intentionally. He literally explained in world matters that a lot of teachers were afraid to bring up. And also give kids time to pause and to be with themselves. And you know, some people think it contributes to ADD type behaviors because you don't develop, you don't develop the skill of focus or calmness because you're constantly being stimuli. Now the positive side to it, right?

Just playing devil's advocate is that the amount of content that you can consume. I remember the first time that we met Tom Billu and he mentioned the hack of listening to an audio book at three speed and I thought that was ridiculous. I was like, oh my God, that's gonna be so annoying or whatever. And I remember training myself to get to that place

and I actually found that when I got to a place where I could actually listen at three speed, I was, I was taking in more. You have to focus more. Yes, you have to pay attention. Yes. So there, there are some positive sides to it too. So I, I wonder if that's just the, the direction we're going where we're going to consume. And then the next thing is probably multiple things at once. You know, you would think if we keep training ourselves to be able to do that, we'll be eventually adapt to take in information that way. Now, it may also, what you're both probably thinking, make us a little dumb or two, because we'll, I don't know,

I don't know if we can do that, but that is an interesting thought. Are you, have you guys identified if you're audio or visual learners? Do you guys learn more from listening or from seeing? Yeah, I'm pretty much on the visual side. Same. Yeah. Same. If I watch a video, I'll absorb it more, then if I just listen. What are all the different types? I do better after I talk about it, or teach it, or say it.

I don't know what that would be, but I know what the traditional breakdown was audio, visual, or kinesthetic. Kinesthetic mean you have to touch it. Yeah, actually. Move with it. I thought they already figured out that everybody is like, everybody benefits from this. It's a mix of more. Yeah, I think it was just one's a little higher than the other.

Yeah, because that's what the Montessori is all based around the kinesthetic that having people, having the kids actually touch and do that. I thought they, I thought that's kind of the prevailing theory on like the best way for. I think it's all of them. I think what it is is you want to engage in everything, but you know, I don't know, I've identified for myself that I do better if I see the person talking, I'll learn more than if I just hear them talking personally. What I find is I have to go talk about it right away or it's in and out for me.

So I could read or watch what either one, but if I don't go use it, say it or tell somebody, like tell somebody else or write it down myself, it, I mean, literally I lose most all of it. It's interesting because podcasts were never an option. You're listening to conversations, but I always did way better when I would listen to my, when my dad would have a discussion with one of his friends or whatever, and I was just to fly on the wall, I would always sit there and just listen, and I would get so much out of that.

So it's like, for me, I listen to so many podcasts now, and get more out of that than even like, just listening to books or reading books. So, yeah, do you guys ever listen to music while you're studying or working? Do you guys do that? Yeah, you do that. I know you do.

I can only do the brain FM. I can't have anything with words. If it's got words. It catches you. Oh, yeah, it'll throw me off. But the brain FM, and I remember seeing Justin do that, because up to that point, I thought I couldn't listen to anything. But then when I tried listening the brain FM, I actually did feel like it got me deeper into my reading. I'm a quiet. Has to be totally quiet. That's typically how I prefer it too. And I thought that was the only way I could do it until I saw Justin do it. Now, yeah, so what you're saying about Brain of Fame,

if I'm writing, if I put focus on, I am like, it takes 10 minutes, after 10 minutes, it kicks in, and then I'm like really on fire. But otherwise it's quiet. It puts horse blinders on for me, because my mind will just jump all over the place in the voice. Yeah, so I think I'm the only one

officially with 80D though, right? You guys never had official. Yeah, I think I've never been diagnosed, but it sounds like you got a lot of try harder for you know, I'm sure I got it. You got all kinds of letters. We're supposed to talk about Vuri today. So I wore this is my favorite new shirt that they have because it's got this kind of, I don't even know that was my color. Yes, this is the, I think it's called a strato. We have a written down, it's a strato tech polo shirt, but look how like legit it looks. Super like professional looking.

Where's the Vee as a V even on there? No, there's no V on it. So it's just a polo, but I mean, it's the, you know, the famous material. Yeah, so you can, I mean, I can work out in this, but I don't obviously, looks comfortable. Looks really good, right? I'm going through, I spent a ton of money

on Viori over the last month. I think we all did just recently. Yeah, I'm going through and getting their professional looking clothes. You know what I mean? It's like the ones that you could wear to go out or whatever, not just work out in, and they've got a great lineup.

Well, I think it's a good timing, because I think we're gonna make a big push with you speaking even more and more I think this next time. Oh, public. Yeah, just with that, I think it's a good timing because I think we're gonna make a big push with you speaking even more and more. I think this next time here. Yeah, just with that, I think with your book and stuff, I think that you're gonna be doing more and more like keynotes. You can do some big talk.

Wow, we'll see. It'll be nice to see you looking sharp versus like a lot of fitness people up there in their sweats instead of that, which I'm just guilty for doing that too. So yeah, same. Hey, real quick, you gotta go check out one of our longest lasting sponsors. We've been with this company forever. We

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Our first caller is Sam from Georgia. Hi, Sam. How can we help you? Hi. How are you guys doing? Good. Awesome. So I'll just start by reading off my email that I sent. I started flight attendant training or started being a flight attendant about six months ago. I was weight training consistently up until

flight attendant training started. Then I pretty much stopped entirely just because I didn't have much time. The days were about 12 hours long of class and then I'm studying and we were living in a hotel for those six weeks with one day off. So I would walk during my lunch break, but that's about it. I lost about 10 pounds during that, which left me at about 124. And then after I graduated, I picked weight training back up. Flash forward to now, I'm going into my seventh week or I'm finishing now my seventh week of maps aesthetic. My calories are up from 15 to 1600 in training to about 2400 now. Wow. I weigh 129. I was getting up to like 133 like anywhere between that, but it's been consistently 129 the past week or so.

I do have some shoulder pain. I've been addressing it from the priming videos that I've watched from you guys and I had some knee and hip pain as well, but through those videos, I think that those have been brought back to health. I haven't really had any issues since I started in priming with those. So God bless you guys for that. Thank you. I have so many questions, but I just need to kind of need some guidance on whether I'm

doing the right thing. If I need to eat more, if I need to eat less, working out too little too much, it's a really crazy schedule that we have. And sleep is always different depending on the trip. Going up and down the altitude affects your body a lot. Sometimes it's really hard for me to get the 24, 25 calories or 25, 100 calories in just because of how much we're doing and just convenience. in just because of how much we're doing and just convenience. But I just wanted to see if I could get some insight on that. The Flontana community is so large,

especially in Atlanta where I'm based. And I do spread positivity and health throughout the community as best I can. I share my pump a lot, probably the more people than who care to hear about it, but it's helped me so much, so I appreciate that. And it's an insane amount of emotional mental and physical stress on the body and this job, so I know your feedback will be really helpful for everybody in this community who is trying

to have this lifestyle and have it a healthy one at that. Yeah, cool. First of all, I had no idea that kind of training was that intensive. That's pretty insane. But I would, this is what maps anywhere is for. Maps anywhere would be perfect. While you're traveling, it doesn't require any equipment

except for maybe resistance bands or like a broomstick. You could do it anywhere. And I think it would be absolutely perfect. Then when you have time to follow a traditional routine, you can switch back to a traditional maps routine. And then again, when you're traveling or when you're working a lot, I would do maps anywhere. It's literally exactly what we designed it for

was a person who traveled quite a bit. And I've had lots of clients in similar situations and it works really well. Sam, you're in a really good place right now. I mean, the fact that you've got your calories up to that place, you've addressed a lot of the pain issues. And I think some, I think people sometimes then they follow our programs, they assume like you have to follow it from beginning to end exactly how it's laid

out, but you're a perfect example of how we would interrupt that with something like Sal said, maps anywhere or maybe a suspension trainer. And there's nothing wrong with having it for a couple of weeks and then returning back to wherever you were and maps aesthetic or one of the other programs. And you can even get away sometimes with a week of just doing mobility stuff. There's not, depending on how stressful work is and how taxing that is on your sleep and how you feel, nothing wrong with you having just a week of mobility stuff that you're doing in your hotel room or your house.

Yeah, so Sam, consider this, right? If we look at the benefits that you get from exercise, there's the obvious ones, right? Strength, muscle, metabolism, you know, performance, all that stuff, right? But then there's these other benefits of exercise that you get just from doing the movement, right? You feel better mentally, performance, all that stuff, right? But then there's these other benefits of exercise that you get just from doing the movement, right? You feel better mentally, psychologically,

just from getting up and being active, okay? Now, studies have been done on this and they show that if you were to take a week off every month, you would actually be okay. You actually would not progress any slower. They actually did this big study where they compared to groups. And the people who took a week off

after every three weeks of training didn't build any less muscle or any less strength. Now, that doesn't mean that they got the same psychological benefits. So, here's where I'm going with that. If you were to take a week off every month, you could just move, you could just walk, you could just do mobility. Like Adam said, you don't have to follow a structured strength training program so long as most of the time you do. So if you did three weeks of strength training one week where you're travel and you're not able to work out.

So you're doing other stuff. You're just staying active. You're going to gain all the benefits of exercise. You're not really going to miss much. So you're going to be totally okay. I don't want you to overthink this. And then if you need some structure, maps anywhere. Is perfect.

Do you have maps anywhere, by the way? No. All right. I just purchased maps in a ballic to do after this Because I do try to be mindful that like at a certain point if I'm not getting enough sleep or if it's too stressful It's not gonna be beneficial for me to go hard at the gym. I know that's I try to be mindful of that good But a lot of times if I have time on a layover, I'll go find a gym and go outside of a hotel since those are very helpful. Yeah. Well, I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you maps

anywhere. What airline do you work for, by the way? Were you training with? Delta. Delta. OK. Not bad. Yeah.

Absolutely. The biggest difficulty, obviously, is like you just don't know what kind of weight room or what kind of Situation you're gonna have every time you land somewhere, right? So that's why maps anywhere. It's perfect for that And you know when you do have some sort of Consistency here where you can run one of the programs go for but don't put so much pressure on having to stick with that one program. I think that's where, maps anywhere, it's sort of, just keeps you going, keeps that signal alive,

keeps your muscles responding. So, you just gotta constantly think about like how to, you know, express your muscles and keep them active. And that's the perfect one for when your environment isn't really beneficial in terms of weightlifting. I do like it. I do like you going to maps anabolic next. So I think it really is a great way. Yeah, I think because aesthetics a bit more volume in it. And I think you'll be fine in anabolic. I do anabolic. And then I would just use the stuff that you're already

doing with Prime Pro and build that into your routine. Some days you take off on Anabolic and maybe you just focus on mobility days based off of your workload. But you're in a great place. You're doing really good right now. How long have you been listening to our show? Probably a little over a year. Awesome.

Very cool. So I'll do the priming stuff. And when I have like, it's usually three days, I'll be gone. So I try to do the mobility when I'm gone, if I can't find a gym. But I have like, before during when COVID started, is when I kind of started getting back into all the fitness and I was running three, four miles a day,

cause lockdown. And I decided I wasn't gonna get into the slippery slope of That happens that eating and drinking habits and then Once things opened up I started doing weight training didn't have much knowledge And so I maybe it was two years though that I started listening But I started to weight training, but just gained a bunch of weights It's kind of a dirty bulk if you will and then I kind of do weight training, but just gained a bunch of weights. It's kind of a dirty bulk, if you will. And then I kind of got back on track.

So it's been a couple of years that I've been on top of that. I just really want to increase my strength and build some more muscle mass to kind of build the body that I want. And obviously for health reasons. Yeah, you have the right mindset for sure. I do have one request though. So when you're pointing to the emergency exits, then have them point to their phone and find my. Yeah, great marketing. And you'll get your free maps anywhere. Okay. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate it. No problem. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you very much. You know, one of the beauties of, and I communicate this a lot when I get on other shows for, you know for the resistance training revolution. One of the amazing things about strength training, it's one of the few exercises forms or types where the results last a long time. And there's nothing permanent, right? So if you work out to get in shape, you gotta keep working out to stay in shape.

But with strength training, far less is required to keep what you've built. And if you lose it, you gain it back twice as fast than you did the first time. So it's the most, I guess, permanent form of results you could ever get with the least amount of work to maintain versus other forms of exercise. So, you know, when you're missing, even if you miss a week every month, it's one fourth of the month is off. I mean, studies clearly show that you're going to be totally okay.

Of course, there's benefits to just being active, but my point is you don't have to have structured strength training all the time, even if you miss one-fourth of the time of the month. Yeah, that's the power and benefit of strength training versus cardio, too. Totally. I think as long as you adjust calories during that time, you should be pretty good. That's probably the only mistake that people make when they take off like a week late that is. That's why I said just move. Yeah.

So go for a walk, do mobility stuff like that, replace what was the workout and you're going to be just fine. I mean, when you shared that study, I remember when it was when we first shared it on the show, but that blew my mind. I mean, one seventh, I mean, that's crazy when you think about that. Well, I mean, it makes sense now. All of us are in our 40s. Right. I don't, I mean, to maintain my body you think about that. Well, I mean, it makes sense now. All of us are in our 40s. Right.

I don't, I mean, to maintain my body is like a piece of cake. If I want to go any further, I got to really push myself. But to keep what I've built, which took you so long to get, it's so easy now. So it's really, really cool. And again, it's one of these forms of exercise where the older you get, the easier it becomes to maintain. It was just pretty interesting, right?

Our next caller is Heather from Texas. Heather, what's happening? How can we help you? Hey guys, thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you for taking my question. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah, cool. My question's about maps, performance,

and modifying it a little bit to fit my goals in my lifestyle. I consider myself an endurance athlete. I run marathons. I've been doing that for about 10 years. The gold standard for me, my gold, and for marathoners has always been a Boston qualifier. And I had never quite achieved that level of speed. Until 2017, I had a big breakthrough

and I discovered weight training. I added strength training to my plan. I was doing push pull legs and had success. I was able to improve my PR with that addition in 2018. I ran my Boston Polyfire and I had a series of really successful races. Then in 2019, end of 2018, 2019, had some personal setbacks, totally unrelated fitness, and then of course COVID. Shut down on the gyms, everything came to a halt. I'm a flight attendant, so it's been particularly stressful for us.

I've been continuing to fly through the pandemic. I've had COVID twice, and during this time it's been really difficult to kind of balance all the things going on, running, weight training and everything. But since I discovered you guys, it's been really difficult to kind of balance all the things going on, running, weight training and everything. But since I discovered you guys, I've been back in the gym, I've built a home gym as well in the last seven months. I ran anabolic. I tried to run performance and I kind of got caught up. I did it for about three weeks. And I was having difficulty with the mobility sessions.

They take me much longer than the foundational workouts. Movements are kind of awkward for me. When I'm on the road, I don't have like foam roller. I don't have the mobility stick. I don't have any of that. So after about three weeks, I kind of abandoned it and went under aesthetic. I really enjoyed that. I finished that. I ran, yeah. So I'm kind of wondering what you guys would recommend. I've got fall marathon training

seasons coming up late May. I'd like to take another go at maps performance, but I've heard you guys say that maps for regains are intended to be run on their own, not along with anything else. So if you have any other training suggestions, anyway to incorporate strength mobility, those kind of things into my running schedule, I would really appreciate your advice.

Can you tell us your running schedule? How much are you running a week? Yeah, so I run basic workouts are two speed sessions a week and one long run. I start out running about three hours a week and then I peak three weeks prior to my race at about seven hours of running a week. Okay, and you said that's three weeks before? Yeah, the peak long run is three weeks before the actual race.

Okay, what's the qualifier for Boston for you? Is it three hours and 30 minutes or something like that? It is three hours and 30 minutes, yeah. And I am. I'm happy for you. Yeah, my record is a 322. So I know I can achieve. Like I've been there, I know I can do it.

But my fall race was, I had fun, but it was a little disappointing. I was closer to the four hour, four, or five mark. Yeah, you're gonna have to do less. Well, so Maps performance is a phenomenal program, but I wouldn't do it with all that running. At least not the whole program. I would do one foundational workout a week, and then three weeks before I would only do mobility.

I wouldn't do any strength training the three weeks before. Yeah, I want to talk about the mobility sessions a little bit just because honestly, for what you're doing and what you're passionate about and all the repetitive stress and staying in one plane predominantly, those movements are going to be awkward. That's something that we need to really focus in on and reinforce that way. You have more longevity in your performance out there as well and you'll feel more supported. If there's other ways too, I know we have other resources in terms of like the stick or whatever you don't have it around.

Like there's the Prime Pro webinar that Adam did as well, which is, you know, all-base body weight. So you could just do that anywhere, any place, but you're at least gonna then, you know, mobilize the hips, the ankles, express your joints in different with rotation and different planes. It's just very essential for, especially for competitors, I would highly recommend you to really dive into it.

I love that you went that way because what was going through my head and also to pair with what Sal was saying is I'd have you run Mass performance foundational one day a week. And then two to three days a week, I would have you run like a prime pro, the prime pro webinar. Like literally just follow that, put it on your TV, do it in your living room, and it hits everything. Yes. And it'll compliment all the running you're doing. And any more volume and weight training with that much running, I think it's gonna probably hinder your time,

and I know that's probably important to you. Yeah, I'm gonna guess, too. I'm gonna make a guess, Heather, I want you to correct me if I'm wrong, because you switched from performance to aesthetic, which is an interesting choice, considering your endurance athlete. You have some aesthetic goals, too.

Is that correct? You know, everyone wants to look their best, but honestly, the reason that I did it was because it sounded like fun. Yeah. Lifting heavy things, and that's a lot of fun. So I have enjoyed, I've enjoyed aesthetic, I enjoyed anabolic too.

I really just wanna be well-rounded. Running is obviously my passion. I want to do it as well as I can for as long as I can. But I enjoy trying different things. Yeah, the beauty of strength training, especially for an athlete like you, once a week, and you're going to reap all the benefits. More than that, you run the risk of overdoing it,

especially with the amount of running that you're doing. So you take that one foundational workout a week of MAPS performance, and you're set. So you take that one foundational workout a week of maps performance and you're set. And you can pick whichever one you want and go through it through all the different phases and then do mobility stuff on the off days. You're set. I would three weeks before I would cut out

the strength training and just focus on mobility because at that point you really just want to peak with your performance and you ramp up your endurance so much. On your speed days, what do those look like? You said you do two speed sessions a week? Yeah, they vary from week to week. Sometimes I'm doing, it really varies. Sometimes I'm doing intervals where I'm doing like faster than my marathon pace for a certain

period of time and then I'm walking or jogging. Sometimes you're doing tempo runs where you start out, you know, slower the marathon pace, you work your way up to it, you hold that pace for a certain amount of time and then you back down again. And sometimes we do hill repeats, which is like a strength training speedwork kind of combo thing. Yeah. What's the duration though? Like I think that's probably what Sal's looking for.

How long is my hour? I'm sorry. Two hours, three hours, 30 minutes, like how long are you? Yeah, no, the speed workout doesn't go anywhere near that length. It starts at about like 35 minutes worth of a session and that's everything, the warm up, the actual work that it pulls down. Yeah, that's all.

You sound like you have a coach. No, I've just been doing it for a really long time. Oh, okay. Well, no, that's actually. Yeah, that's all. You sound like you have a coach. No, I've just been doing it for a really long time. Oh, okay. Well, no, that's actually the right way to do it. Actually, I've trained a few, quite a few marathon runners, and you've got a pretty good layout. The strength training was just where I think we could make some of those changes. You know, I would even, you can even experiment with this Heather if you're open to it.

On one of those speed session days, I would cut the speed session in half, and I would, if you have access to a sled, do sled drives outside. I mean, I've had people really improve their speed, their, their sprint speed and strength pushing a sled. I would love to see your do prime pro before she goes and does the speed work. I think to prime you up before you go do that stuff. I think you'll actually feel and see a difference in that work. Yeah. So if you can, I would love for you to do the Prime Pro webinar, go through that and then do your your speed work and see that. But try some sled stuff. It's really good. Like in terms of like sprint speed and power,

it really makes a big difference. And you could just drive the sled for 10 minutes and then do the other half of your normal speed session. See how that feels for you. Okay, fantastic. I've done the Prime for Webinar before, so that works out great. When you say once a week for the foundational exercises, how would you run through the various phases? I would go through, look at the foundational workouts during the week. All of them are full bodice, you're not going to go wrong, okay? Look at the three foundational workouts, pick the one you like and then do that one and then that's the week. And then you move to the next week. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. So I would just do once a week, like phase one, once a week for three weeks and then move on to phase two, once a week.

You know, I could just basically do one workout a week. Correct. Yep. Exactly. Cool. And you guys have given me an excuse to buy a sled. So thank you. Yeah. Actually, always an excuse. Yeah, I wish we sold sleds. Thanks for calling.

Appreciate that. You got it. Thank you guys. Have a great day. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. It's a good message for endurance athletes. Like if you're doing a lot of endurance training, one day a week of strength training will

make a huge difference. Yeah. And I at one point had a lot of endurance athletes. And I would go three days a week of strength training will make a huge difference and I at one point had a lot of endurance athletes And I would go three days a week of strength training then I went down to two Then I'm like wait a minute is that still too much went down to one and everybody saw significant improvements in their performance because That type of training really taxes the body when you're doing endurance work. It really does tax the body Well, I really hope that she sticks to the mobility because Justin brings up a good point.

I mean, if it's awkward and you're having a hard time and because you need to do it. Yeah, it's right. I think it just highlights the fact. When you jump past it, right? Yeah, don't skip it because it's difficult. I mean, she made a point. I want to do this for as long as I can.

If you want to do this for as long as you can, that's what you need to start doing to complement that. And that's what's going to allow you to do that. If you continue to ignore it because it's what you need to start doing to complement that. And that's what's gonna allow you to do that. If you continue to ignore it, because it's, you know, laborious or you're not good at it, well, then what'll end up happening is you're running career will in sooner or later. Yeah, well, and it's just inevitable.

It's like things might be working out for you right now, but like at some point, things may be getting off track in terms of your joint alignment. You know, there's just gonna be certain stressors that are going to keep compounding, that you could just avoid that completely by moving laterally and rotating and really focusing on that to counterbalance and get your body to stable properly.

You know, the other thing that's really hard to communicate is we don't get to talk to everybody that's running our programs too, is that, you know, if the whole mobility session or all of prime or prime pros seems overwhelming, I mean, the bare minimum pick a handful of these movements that you can feel, make an improvement, and you should be able to, if you actually do a couple of these mobility drills that we have in there and then go into your workout, it's like, right, you'll feel the difference, right? Then in there, and if you notice how much you feel better when you do that, at least stick to a few of those and incorporate it instead of like, oh man, I can't do that whole hour of this. Or that's too much.

I don't get this. And so they abandon the whole thing. It's like, you know, we can still chip away at one or two things at a time. Our next caller is Amethyst from California. Hey, Amethyst, how can we help you? Good cool name, by the way. Thank you. Hi, first I want to say thank you guys.

I'm a new trainer and your content has really helped me improve and think about programming differently. So thank you for what you do. My question today is, like I said, I've been listening to you guys for a while and one of the things that you've said several times is, when you have a new client come in and they say, I want to lose weight. The first thing you tell them is, well,

let's put on some muscle first so that you have a runway and that the weight loss is steady and easier. And so the thing that I'm running into with that is to put on that muscle, we need to lift heavy, we need to have a calorie surplus. And some of my, many of my clients that come in have been so inactive for so long that they have a lot of postural distortions.

And so some of them really just make me nervous doing like a body weight squat. So I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions for how you would approach that. A client that just their posture is distorted and needs a lot of work before we can start really lifting heavy safely. Yeah, that's a good question. And first off, thanks for what you do. It's all the trainers out there that are really making the big impact on people. Okay, so correctional, so I want to be clear here, when you correct movement patterns or you're doing correctional exercise, you're strength training.

Yeah. It's no different than lifting heavy except obviously the modalities different and the goals are different. So, you have to start with correctional exercise before you can go to, I don't, I guess, heavy for lack of their term traditional strength training. Also, heavy is relative to the client, too, right? So, yeah, it's all in the middle of there's a lot of different versions of that.

Totally. So, correctional exercise, build strength and build muscle, just like, you know, what someone might consider heavy strength training would do. In fact, it's more appropriate for these clients that you're talking about. If you were to take, like, and you've got great instinct, obviously, you take these people and have them do

traditional, heavy strength training without correctional exercise. I think you realize you'll probably hurt them, right? So, that correctional exercise builds strength and build, all strength training builds strength and muscle, whether it's correctional mobility or powerlifting or bodybuilding, all does that. So, that's the correct place to start.

So, you're totally fine. So, there's no questions there. Start with the correctional exercise and you are moving in the right direction. What programs do you own of ours? None yet. Oh wow. Okay. Well there's where we need to steam right there. Go inside. I mean, there's there's several things that you I mean, you should have you should have the prime and prime pro. you should have starter for sure, you should have anabolic. I'm not giving away to all of you.

I'm just saying that. You already said it now. There's a lot of programs that you could be using for, because everyone's going to be a little bit different. You have some clients that absolutely you need to regress all the way back to like following prime or prime pro and they're just, they're sticking all directional. They're going to have some people that need a little bit of correctional work but can start to do some traditional stuff

and maybe they're at map starter. They're gonna have some people that have a good background and can get right into something like maps and a ball like but then you still use, you know, prime or prime pro to complement that. So that, and that's why we have all these programs because we know that there's people that are gonna be starting at different levels here.

But like Sal said, your intuition is right. I mean, if you see that there's some serious dysfunction there, but loading that client up on a heavy barbell squat is not the place you wanna go. But you know, it's the spectrum. You're gonna find people on all different levels and that's why we have so many different programs. No, what I will give to you

and I think that will benefit you the most is, give her, I think we should give her the prime to, so she can assess clients and see this and use the mobility drills. Yeah, prime and starter is what I think you should do. Absolutely have for what we're talking about right now. Yeah, there's definitely like a scale of this. And I think too, in terms of a surplus, if you just have them really focus on replacing food

or making better decisions to incorporate in terms of nutrient-dense foods and maybe by proxy, you could get rid of processed foods, but really, the strength training is the focus in the very beginning. If anybody has dysfunction, this is the biggest priority is to be able to create a nice stable functional body that then you can build upon. So this is a foundational part of training.

I wouldn't necessarily worry too much about really building size and just muscle definition as much as really the strength portion of it is everything in terms of stability in a strong body. Not to mention a body weight squat can be strength training for somebody. I mean, just depending on where their level is, you know, we don't always have to be loading a barbell. You know, it's all relative to where they're currently at.

And so you may not seem like heavy lifting to you or us. It is to them. It is to them. Where are you training out of, by the way? Are you out of a big gym, big box? No, I've been doing private stuff or in-home training primarily. So that's what I've been working at, especially with COVID.

That's just, I happen to happen to get all my certifications and everything during COVID. And so that's just kind of where I had to start. And that's been very successful for me so far. Yeah, good for you. Amit, this is just a hammer this home. Look, when you're doing a correctional exercise and it works, what happened to the person's body?

They built strength, which then leads to muscle. So it's all strength training. You're just applying the appropriate type to that person. Does that make sense? Yeah, that totally makes sense. Thank you guys. You got no problem. And you got maps prime and starter coming your way.

Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yeah, there's like a... People always feel like you have to trade one for the other or I'm gonna miss out on all these gains. If I, first off, if you have issues, you have to correct. You can't go into traditional heavy strength training.

It's just not gonna work. No, you're gonna hurt yourself. You have to address it. You have to. Yeah, so, and it is strength training. You are building muscle. It's just, you know, you have to look at the long term of all of this.

And so this is, yeah, it might not be a satisfying is like getting a crazy pump and like seen visible muscle all of a sudden, but you are building strength. You are building muscle and, you know, you're building something that you can keep building on. Yeah, I had a 75 year old woman once that her daughter hired her for me, and she was very deconditioned. And over the course of three months,

we progressed from being able to sit down and stand up off of a bench, that was her squat, to standing bodyweight squats, a push-up that was up against the wall to one that was off of a desk, so she went lower, and essentially that was the progression. Over three months, and I remember her daughter going, is she gonna build muscle off this?

I said, well, yeah, this is what it's appropriate for. In three months, she gained four pounds of lean body mass. It's 75 years old. So, yeah, your body gets stronger, it builds muscle. And really, where you're starting at is where you're starting. Well, I mean, we can't even really get into our whole catalog of why we address, so we have prime pro, we have prime,

then we have starter, then we have maps resistance. So it's like, you have starter, which addresses a lot of the imbalance and has, you know, stability ball, but introduces them to dumbbells. But then it takes it a bit further with resistance. And then now you have symmetry, so we can really break it down and address these things at like a really comprehensive level. I get, it's all there. I get so frustrated when we talk to trainers that have been listening to us for an extended period of time and you're relatively new to the game and you don't fucking own any programs.

Like it just, I understand why as a trainer, like you want, you know, you have a lot of pride that you can create your own program and so you don't want to follow somebody else's, okay, that's fine. But for the educational piece, the amount of knowledge, experience, and effort that we've put into building these all out,

so that as a trainer, you have all these resources to you. And for the price of, you know how many times we just had an event, Sal and I were just in a bit, how many of the trainers come up to you and be like, oh my God, I've gotten more and learned more from Prime and Prime Pro than I have from any certification that I've ever paid for. And then it's a fraction of the cost.

Yeah, you're talking about some that's under a hundred bucks. Under a hundred bucks compared to certifications that are costing you $500 to $1,000, it blows me away when they don't have that. We have all the answers she's looking for are built in all those programs. Well, I think too, we give away so much for free people hear that information and then they try to piece it together. But, you know, we want them to have it. Well, which is fine. Which is fine. Fine. You get all the answers to the test on top of it and then it's all organized for

you and it's really easy and then you can share the videos with clients for the demo. So it's all kind of laid out for you. But I mean, I get it. I was a trainer at one point and there's so much free stuff out there. It's like, okay, do I want to, you know, but it's definitely worth it. It's definitely value. But once you get it and you figure it out,

you piece it together, then you move on from there. Our next caller is Pedro from Oregon. Pedro, what's going on? How can we help you? Hi, gentlemen. My name is Pedro. I've been listening for a couple of months. I gotta say I'm a fan and I love the content. Thank you. My Instagram has been quieter and sadly because they took out sell. Yeah. Still hurt. Yeah. RIP.

Call me, Graham. Call me, Graham. Pick me, pick me off. My questions in regards to, there's been news about the publicity in regards to the armed forces and reviewing physical fitness assessments. So the Army, for example, over the last few years, updated their tests and a goal to get a better overall fitness assessment. One complexity we see is a reservist type personnel who work out together maybe once or a couple of times a month, so it has limited the ability to influence folks in terms of health and fitness. It's just a kind of give a little bit background on the Army test.

It's a three rep max deadlift, hand release pushups, a 10 pound med ball throw, a complex, which is a sprint drag carry with a 90 pound sled and carry in 240 pound kettlebells. There's a plank, which is one to three minutes and then there's a two mile run at the end. And this is all done like over an hour to two, maximum. My question to you gentlemen, is in your opinion with your professional experience

and looking at these updates, I have two questions here. Sorry. What would be the best course of action for those with limited time with personnel? Either should we assess overall athleticism prior to testing, or should we do a test and see in troubleshoot after? I'll start with that one, Pedro. So this is a little challenging

because the arm forces are in a bit of a conundrum, aren't they? It's like, we need to make a test to make sure that people are meet the minimum requirements to be on the battlefield, but we can't make it too tough because then a lot of people will fail and we won't have any soldiers.

Am I right? That would seem like the way they go about it, yeah. Yeah, okay, so there's a bit of a conundrum here. Okay, so that being said, all you really have to work off of is the current test. Yeah. So the best way to test somebody for that test is to run the test.

That would be the best thing to do. So because the test is a pass or fail, if you fail, you can't serve, if you pass, then you can come on in. That seems, that's like the threshold. That's what I would test somebody on. And I'd say, okay, let's see what you do with the Army test and test them from there. Anything additional, although we'll tell you, we'll give you some information,

isn't going to speak directly to this test. Now, how does it all speak to battle readiness? I have no idea. I've never served in the military, so I can't tell you exactly, you know, how I would test somebody. All I have to work off of is what the United, you know, the United States Army has decided. This is the physical threshold that we will create before somebody can actually serve in the military. So the test that I would do would be the test that they do. That's how I would test people out.

Does that make sense? Roger. Yeah. I mean, this reminds me of talking to somebody like about CrossFit. If you want to get good at CrossFit, you do CrossFit stuff. Like this is a very specific test that you want to do and sure there's other exercises that can have some carryover, but nothing is going to get you better at those things or improve your chances of passing the test than doing the test and getting good at the test. So like that would be the training protocol would literally look like that until we're kicking ass at it and mastering it.

Yeah, think of it this way, Pedro, it's like if I had to take a biology test and I could learn all of biology or the teacher could give me the test questions and say, here, just study these, right? So it's a bit of a shortcut. Now, it's not it's not going to give you, you know, it's good of a broad understanding of biology as I'm knowing all the biology, but this is the threshold. Now, in the, when the person is working out on their own, that's when I would incorporate more well-rounded training. So the way I would work out, if this was me, is I would once a week do the Army test as my workout. And then two or three days of the week, I would do other types of

workouts, probably centered around traditional strength training, multi-planar, or a sports performance. Like mass performance. Yeah, mass performance. Yeah. Does that make sense? No, yeah, that mass performance would be okay. Yeah, that would be what I would do also, but I would also make sure I ran this test

as well because, you know, strength and performance is as much a skill as it is physical ability. So like, you know, you can have the physical ability, but the skill of doing the three rep deadlift, the skill of doing the sprint drag carry and the plank and the run, like, you know, I could build tremendous stamina by swimming and I'll have some carry over to the run, but I'll get way better carry over to the run but I'll get way better carry over to the run if I just run. Is here I'm saying? Yeah absolutely and that kind of brings it right in line with the second question was a potential concern is you know a one-size-fits-all

so with the recent studies showing that sedentary lifestyles affect bone density for these Nintendo generation folks. So, would it be best to then provide specific individual training protocols or maybe a program centered around strength and performance and all these areas? Well, logistically speaking, I don't know if that's possible. It's always best to have an individualized program. Always, there's nothing better than that, right? No, there's no program I can write for the general public that's ever gonna be good as a program I can write for one specific individual who I assess and watch and all that stuff. So we're gonna have to speak generally.

Generally speaking, if I were to construct a workout for somebody based off of this test and what we're talking about, I would do two or three workouts, very similar to MAPs performance, and then one workout would be the Army test, would be just that, and I would just do that until it was time to go take the test. That would give you a good, well-rounded fitness,

mobility, reduced risk of injury, bone density muscle, all that stuff. Would you only do the test once? Would you not consider it twice a week? Depends how well it is, a good question. It depends how well or bad I did on it. I always sucked at it, I would practice it more. I. Yeah, so keep that in mind is that if they're if they're really struggling with the test, then that's a person that I might actually prescribe

twice a week doing the test and then only one day or maybe two days of like a maps performance type of a program or pull out those very specific exercises in those other workouts and focus on those specifically to sharpen the skill of them even. Great information. Thank you. Do you have mass performance? I'm a personal trainer too, but I bought your ex's programs. I mean, I love the majority of them.

I've got, I think there might be a few there I'm missing. Well, if you don't have mass performance, it's such a good fit has all of these exercises listed in there So what we'll send it to you if you don't have it Pedro Okay, you got it man. I appreciate your service. Thank you. Oh, hey, thank you guys I think you're just an at Adam So I and Doug I cannot thank you guys enough. You got it, man. Thank you, dude Yeah, I don't know if you guys have been reading about this, but they, I read an article that they were going to change the distance for people to throw their grenade because so many

people were failing. Wasn't there memes and jokes that came around them? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a weird, because we have a voluntary military. And so on the one hand, you want to make sure people are, you know, qualified. On the other hand, if you make the too hard, the too hard, we have no military. You know, it's interesting about that.

I thought about that because I bet you there's this, this sort of split where some people are better, probably at like drone operation or, you know, like technical things versus the physical side, which, you know, what's the priority now in the military? That's what's interesting to me. Yeah, I think it depends on where you're going and what you're gonna do, right?

But yeah, is this a general test that even like, so that's right there, the Army test? Cause that's, that's interesting, right? If you were, if you were somebody who was gonna fly drones or do something like that, that you would still have to do like a test. I think they would probably, if I'm assuming this, so I have no idea, but I'm assuming they have to,

do at least some kind of a physical test. They have a standard at least, right? Everybody. Yeah, just to make sure that they're healthy, you assuming they have to do at least some kind of a physical test. It does a standard at least for everybody. Yeah, just to make sure that they're healthy, you know what I mean? That they're kind of fit and healthy. So I would think then if you get into more like the ranger side or like sort of the special forces side, they would be way more rigorous.

Yeah. And this is, you know, not to get to, you know, whatever, but this is why it was always strange to me to have different standards for the same position for men and women, and I understand women don't perform typically as well as men or whatever, but it makes sense to me to have one standard, and then if you pass your pass if you fail, you fail. But again, the problem is if you make the standard too high, you have all these volunteers that now can't serve, and so you're kind of stuck in it now.

Yeah, people help them. Yeah, so, but I mean, who knows? Modern warfare is starting to look very different. It's more and more like video game operators, I think it's gonna look like in the future. But yeah, it's just one of those things. But if you want to get good at a test, it's just like taking any test. I mean, I remember years ago I did a,

I took a series six tests for investment and I just studied the test. Yeah, I studied the test today. It's there and provided. It's like, yeah, let's, let's focus on that. They already gave you sort of the direction. Totally. Look, the test. It's there and provided. It's like, yeah, let's focus on how they already gave you sort of the direction. Totally. Look, if you like our information, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out our guides.

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