Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1803: The Truth About Chiropractors, How Training Should Change After Age 45, the Detrimental Effect of Pain Killers on Muscle Growth & More

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how often one should see a chiropractor, the benefits of using calorie cycling, what their workouts will look like at age 45, and if taking painkillers before or after lifting inhibits muscle growth. Mind Pump Fit Tip: One of the easiest and best ways to know that you are doing the right kind of training, eating the best diet, and living the best lifestyle is if you are getting STRONGER. (3:43) How conversations with friends have changed since becoming fathers. (8:28) Awkward moments with your children. (11:57) Sal recaps his recent business trip to LA. (17:22) The guys discuss how our media covers high-profile trials. (26:13) Elon wins! (30:00) The guys provide a follow-up on their minerals & metals test from equi.life. (44:51) Why being deficient in vitamin D is not good. (49:25) The issue Mind Pump has with people taking things out of context on social media. (51:55) Organifi crushes in the flavor department! (58:35) #Quah question #1 - How often should you see a chiropractor? (1:00:20) #Quah question #2 - Other than reducing the risks of metabolic adaptation, what are the positives of using calorie cycling over the same caloric intake? (1:09:57) #Quah question #3 - What would your routine go-to workouts look like at age 45? (1:16:29) #Quah question #4 - Can taking painkillers before or after lifting inhibit muscle growth? (1:26:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Promotion: Get MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Prime and Prime Pro all for $99.99! MP Hormones Mind Pump #1762: Tony Robbins – Life Transforming Breakthroughs In Precision Medicine Mind Pump #1290: The Homeless Crisis With Dr. Drew Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation trial: Summary and timeline Elon Musk reaches deal to buy Twitter for $44 billion Florida's Gov. Ron DeSantis vs. Disney: What happens now? Netflix stock plunges on shocking subscriber loss Mind Pump #1780: Why Blood Tests Are Overrated With Dr. Stephen Cabral Equi.life is offering all Mind Pump listeners an at home Minerals & Metals At-Home Lab Test for 50% off! Combined Vitamin D, Omega-3 Fatty Acids, and a Simple Home Exercise Program May Reduce Cancer Risk Among Active Adults Aged 70 and Older: A Randomized Clinical Trial True Transformation Podcast w/Josiah Novak - The Growth of Mind Pump with Adam Schafer  Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Serenity Kids for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MP20 at checkout** Calorie Cycling For Bulking and Fat Loss – Mind Pump Blog How to Undulate Your Calories for Faster Weight Loss & an Improved Metabolism – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1137: The #1 Form Of Exercise For Health & Longevity Why you should almost NEVER take Advil, Aleve, or Aspirin (NSAIDS) before or after exercise – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu)  Instagram Elon Musk (@elonmusk)  Twitter Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral)  Instagram Josiah Novak (@josiahfitness)  Instagram Layne Norton, Ph.D. (@biolayne)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram Justin Brink DC (@dr.justinbrink)  Instagram

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One of the easiest and best ways to know whether or not you're doing the right kind of training, eating the right kind of diet, and leading the best lifestyle, is if you're getting stronger. It's really hard to get stronger when you're doing one of those things wrong. Do you think this is the single best indicator

if you're on the right track or do you think there's other things that are a lot superior to it? Nothing's perfect, right? Because you could definitely get stronger and do other stuff wrong. It's just hard to get stronger and not feed yourself enough or get poor sleep or over train or under train. It's also not perfect because as you progress, if you're advanced, you can't always look

at strength. Strength gains eventually slow down and stop. I would say how you feel is probably better. The problem with that is it's so subjective. Whereas strength is like, oh yeah, I add five pounds of the bar. It's very clear cut. Not only that, there's a lot of things

that could make you feel better. You're attitude and mood and other thing. You could be having a terrible program, but life is good. You just had incredible sex last night. You got a promotion at your job. Like, you just, you start to look at everything a lot of different. So I don't like that one.

I think strength is more important. It could also be that like people can lie to themselves. Like how many times have you guys trained people? Right. And they're over training, they're under eating, and you're like, so how do you feel? Oh, I feel great. I love it. You know, this is all working out great for me. And you're like, so how do you feel? Oh, I feel great. I love it.

You know, this is all working out great for me. And you're like, wait, I don't know if you really know what feeling good feels like. You feel hyper. You feel lots of cortisol, which gives you a certain kind of energy, but maybe you don't necessarily feel better. So I like feeling better once a person is really in tune. But it's so subjective, or if you had 10 pounds of the bar,

you had a 10 pounds of the bar, it's pretty clear. If you did five more reps, you did five more reps. And if your diet is off, if your training is off, if your sleep is bad, it's hard to see strength gains when those things run. It's a great metric, yeah, because you can just trick yourself all day with your energy levels or how well you're doing in the gym,

other than strength being that one thing that consistently, if you've seen progress or you're doing in the gym, other than strength being that one thing that consistently, if you've seen progress, or you're not seen progress, that's how you need to adjust. And also maybe refocus what you're doing so you can get strong in a different direction than what you're doing before that. It's a great metric, but it's still flawed too.

Of course, no single metric. If you take a complete newbie who has not strength trained either ever or in a very long time and you throw the worst training program at them, okay, just like terrible programming, overtraining, bad exercises, poor rest, they can get stronger because it's so novel to the body that you'll see it. Now, it'll come to a halt. Real quick. But the initial couple of weeks when you're maybe even a month or two of training for a

newbie, I think sometimes that can be deceiving. How many times have you seen that? You know the person's not following a good regimen, but they're seeing strength gains. So therefore, they think it's really work. Yeah, it won't last forever. And you're right, no single metric is perfect. It's just one of the better single metrics, I would say, that you can measure.

But I could say, I guess loosely, in generally speaking, probably for the first, I don't know, two or three years of your consistent training program or career or whatever, the first two or three years, if you see relatively consistent strength gains, which you can do in the first three years, after that it gets really hard. Things start to plateau. Obviously, I'd be benching a thousand pounds by now if I could continue to get stronger. But within the first three years, if you see these relatively consistent strength gains

where you look at your chart and you see month over month, some increases in either repetitions or strength because it's not always linear, you're probably on the right track because if you're underfeeding or not eating right or you're overtraining under-training, it's gonna be hard to see that. But yeah, you're right.

In the very beginning, almost anything you do, you can see strength gains, but it won't last very long. Well, and I think too, to be able to see other directions, like so if I'm looking at increasing my range of motion, but getting strong in that range of motion, it's a different pursuit than just seeing me load more weight. And so there's other ways of evaluating strength

other than just that I'm progressively overloading consistently. Yeah, good point. Can I do, am I doing a larger range of motion with good control with the same weight as before? That means I'm stronger. Do I feel more stable and solid? That means I'm stronger.

Yeah, mobility is strength driven. So that's the other thing I think is confusing. Just to attribute that to flexibility, but really, what you're doing is getting strong and supported around your joints. Talking about mobility and joints, you guys have me thinking about this weekend. So I got with my buddies that we go back like 30 years, right?

And the two of them both have kids, they had kids before me, right? So that we have Justin with a four year old and then Jared with a three and then I have the two and a half year old. So it's always neat when we get together because I can kind of, there are always a little bit ahead of me. So hearing like what's going on. And so, and I had this moment where I kind of pulled myself out of like the conversation about, oh my God, how much has this conversation like changed, right? We used to get together with all sports and talking shit and some of that. Now it's like dad haps. It's like, how did you figure to get your son down?

So, so quick, right? So, we were sharing Justin, Justin has the oldest, right? And he's like, oh bro, he's like, right right now, my wife has the newborn, so she's taking him and then I have her and then I have my son. And he goes, she doesn't know this right now, but Knights have gotten pretty easy because now he has this like,

at a randomly I'll go upstairs to do our little routine where we read and he'll say, daddy I'm tired, I just wanna go to bed. He's like, okay, you know, so we skip the reading and he goes right to bed and so we start talking about that. Did you lay in there so his wife did it? Yeah, oh, totally. So she thinks that he's like really having to work to put his, yeah, put his son down, he'll lay in there. He was totally about that. Did you lay in there so his wife did it? Yeah, oh, totally. So she thinks that he's like really having to work to put the...

They take him out. Yeah, put his son down, he'll lay in there. He was totally saying that. So we got into talking about like putting the kids to sleep and there's like this universal thing that I guarantee you guys obviously you've probably gone through this because you're ahead of me also of, you know, there's a phase where, you know,

they're kind of going down by themselves but you still gotta be there and then you wait till they kind of fall asleep and then you sneak out of the room. At least my son, he has to feel you. So I'll lay in the bed next to him and then every once in a while he'll do this to make sure I'm there. And we all have this to the mobility and joint thing that it reminds me of. It's a hard night to get him down to sleep.

I finally get him like, I think he's out and I creep away. I slowly do the finger thing, right? So all five fingers aren't as back and then it's four, then three, then two, then one. Oh, right. And then you roll up, just in magician, you roll out. Yeah, you magician your way out,

you roll off the bed all smooth and then you're fucking old joints. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, pop, dude, and then he hops up and he wakes up. Dad, you know, you're gonna start it all over again. It's like every one of us have had that experience of trying to sneak out of the room after trying to put him down. So you put my toes and give me a little help.

Yes, I have, I need my knees. That's what you do. I have on my left foot my big toe, it snaps. So what I figured out is I have to keep my foot bent while I'm putting him down because if it's straight and then I bend it, it makes the pop. The low pop. Also, and this was when my son was younger,

he goes down really easy now, which is really cool. Thank God, because before we have this other baby, it's like I can't deal with two. So he's going down really easy, but before when it was tough, Jessica literally mapped out the room and where you step so that the floor doesn't create. Oh yeah. So she's like,

Yeah, so she's like, you gotta walk over here and walk around the edge and then you come over here. Otherwise, the floor is gonna, so it's like you're navigating this minefield, you know? Yeah, it's like, the mission impossible, or it goes through all those lasers

and it's like doing the thing. Yeah, I see that part. Oh, I love that. So this was like, this was the conversation for like, we were like in it for like 45 minutes and I had the, and we're laughing and go back for it and I pull myself, oh my God, how much has this changed? And then I pulled up the video,

I had to, I have to share this video that Justin's share, I freaking died. Now, did Courtney, is she the one who caught it? Yeah. So she was at home with the boys, right? It don't matter. I love this video. And so Everett, who is like a mini Justin, right?

So I just can't help but every time I see him, I was like, oh my God, he's so, he's so Justin, right? Yeah. And there's a video, Courtney's in, it looks like she's in from her kitchen, her dining room inside the house, and she's videoing Everett out there. And he's got one of those like you know those little trike bike things like a hoverboard but has like an attachment that goes over

makes it like a go yeah and she you could tell she she she starts videoing it because she's watching him and you can see that she kind of knows what's coming like because he starts he starts like spinning himself right and he's and he's going around around and it's and it's the funniest thing ever because he starts, he starts like spinning himself, right? And he's going around and around. And it's the funniest thing ever because he has no idea he's being watched. And you see him after he's done and she's like kind of narrating over it. Like, oh, he's about to feel this, right? He's, and then you just see him.

He's sitting there and he's just like, oh, he's stopped. He's, he's, he's like holding his head. The mistake just like sets it totally did it to himself. And you'll sink. Yeah, watch him. And she caught it all in Jesus. I was dying. I was dying because he stopped and he's like, oh yeah.

And I bet you he did again after him. Oh, yeah, he did again. And he's he just he's just like that. And again, it's it's really kind of weird to watch. From afar, it's like, oh my God, it's like watching myself go through all these stages of childhood. That was one of those where you just,

you find your limit and you just go for it, dude. And that's the thing. Yeah, he's been cracking me up lately. Ethan's been hanging out with his buddies and stuff a week and so I hung out with him pretty much all weekend and took his buddies and stuff a week and so I hung out with him pretty much all weekend I took him around and stuff and we were watching TV and so

Courtney and I were watching TV. We had these memories of Baywatch as being like oh, yeah Those are choice to watch as a kid, you know, and it had like Baywatch remasters. We're like yeah, let's watch this with ever it right and I don't know if you guys like remember it all. The slow mo intro literally is like soft core port. Yeah, yeah, slow mo intro. And you remember that classic intro to it, though the whole thing is a montage of just like movies bouncing. Yeah, they're like fake working out together and the guy shirtless.

And then the other girl is like just like pretending to pick something up and he's like right behind her, helping her and strut and I'm like, oh my god dude, it was so awkward but I was like also like, you know, like this is I'm like preparing him. PG 13 in the 80s and 90s was is not what PG 13 is today. Yeah. If you watch PG 13 from the 80s and 90s, it would not fly. I feel like it's the same stuff.

The only difference is that it was subtle back then and we're now just straight in your face. Well, no, no, literally, if you watch PG 13 today, it's less bad. It was worse in the 80s and 90s. I've done this, right? I've watched movies, I'm, oh, PG 13, we can watch this. Now, I'm watching, I'm like,

I can't, this is not cool for my kids. This change, Rook. I don't remember them doing this or saying this or whatever. Yeah, well, it's like they were like the one, but dude, I mean, it's like cut like this, dude. And it was popular. Yeah, but then it was funny, because there was this one episode where there was an old man

and he was like pretending to have a heart attack. And it's because one of the the hot chick out There was wearing this bit almost bikini, but it was just barely kind of cut like a Brazilian cut or ever It wasn't even a thong. I'm like dude. He his heart would have exploded in today's Instagram land, you know You think part of that part of that is because you're a dad now. Of course. Like if you... Your perception changes.

Yeah, I think some of it is just that, because I imagine that, you know, our parents probably thought the same thing when they saw Baywatch. They probably thought, oh my God, I can't believe this. Watch an old movie. But they watched it with us. That's the awkward moment. Because your dad wanted to watch it. Yeah, exactly.

I'm like, I know his motivation. Yeah. My dad used to, because it was all VHS. So what he would do is he would just fast forward it. So I would see the sex scene. It would just be fast forward with the, like, the lines, you know? I'm like, huh? Well, well, I think nothing is more awkward than watching a movie as a young teenage boy with your parents in a sex scene. That is like the most awkward moment. Like I, Like, that is more embarrassing or awkward for me than probably anything that happened to me at school. Yeah. So watch an old movie where there's like teenagers

running a muck and parents are like, like, what's that one where the dude skipped school? It's a real pair of spular. Okay, watch Ferris Bueller or watch the Breakfast Club. Now, when I watched those as a kid, I was fairest-beular. I was the kids in detention. Now when I watch, I'm like, that kid. You little shit.

What the hell is your principal now? Yeah, now in the principal, and the breakfast, I'm like, those kids are fucked. I hope the principal, you know, as I'm watching, I can't believe these kids. So totally changing. You're angry. And the other thing, too, that changes is 10 o'clock is something different than it used to be 10 p.m

10 p.m. Used to be like it's only 10. Let's go out now this happened last night watching TV with Jessica I'm kind of tired. I looked at the clock and like 10 15. Oh my god Tomorrow's ruin. Hey, how was your trip down to see Tom? Oh, it was great man I had a good time down in LA. I went down there to I was on. Hey, how was your trip down to C-Tom? Oh, it was great, man. I had a good time down in LA. I went down there to, I was on his podcast, his show. You got to go in the big bajillion dollar mansion, yeah? Gorgeous house. I didn't see much of it, but I did see where he has

like the studio set up. It's, I think it's the house. I'm pretty sure it's the house that was on the first episode of Selling Sunset. The pilot episode, the one where they're on the deck. My son's favorite show. And they're, yeah, I bet it. Yeah.

Is it really? It's my talk of Trino. Why are we watching this again? It's like, Max is into a Trino. He's learning about real estate. Yeah. It's a little, no, it looked, I mean, from what I saw, it looked absolutely gorgeous.

And you guys know Tom, he's such a nice, just gracious person, so we had a good conversation So it was a good time good staff and got to meet his team over there Then I went down and met with the with the team over at regenerative who we work with at MP hormones great Culture you know you walk into it. You guys know this with gyms You can walk into a gym and in five minutes. You know This is a successful club and this one is not a successful by the vibe

and the culturally. They have a great culture in there. As soon as you walk in and you can see people are friendly, they're talking, everybody's having a good time, everybody's working hard, everybody looks like they're fit and they take care of themselves and just great energy. Yeah. It's great. They've been growing a lot, huh? Like hiring people. Dude, I didn't know they actually do, they do at their clinic in LA, they do stem cell therapy too. Oh, cool. Yeah, so they do that as well. Oh, very cool.

And they have other stuff that they do, which is kind of. That's so nice, yeah, because before it was like, your only option was go to like Panama, and it was like a legal, you know, to get like stem cell treatments. The stem cell stuff is really interesting. It's starting to really kind of make its way. I don't follow it that much,

so I'm not even familiar with like, what is it best for? Like, I imagine that, because there's a lot of things that they've used it for, right? Yeah, so are there certain, do you know if there's like certain things like, men's, stem cell is like life changing for this and this, it works sometimes for this, like,

so I am not super privy to it. Just from the conversations I had with the people who are over at, you know, down a regenerative, I did a little bit of reading afterwards. So I do know that stem cells are essentially cells that can be turned into any cell, right? So it's the beginning of a cell. Your body can use that cell to make more cartilage,

to regenerate or help an organ or inflammation or whatever. Apparently, I know some of the treatments are direct, so you inject directly into a knee if you want to recover faster or whatever, but I guess you can also put it in your blood stream and it goes to where your body needs it. So they were telling me about someone who had COPD, which is a condition of the lungs, through the stem cell treatment, totally reversed it,

which, I mean, this is an anecdote, so it's one person, but it's crazy. I wanna do some more reading on it. I remember when we interviewed, what's his name over in Florida? Okay, his name slipped my mind. Lain, Tony Robbins, thanks Tony. He talked about how much of indosiness

is ready for him and other people. So I'm really interested. I wanna start reading more about it. I know people swear about it. I know people who've done it themselves and have said it's like, it fixed my back on my shoulder or whatever. Yeah, I just don't know how,

like what the percentage of success is. I've no idea. People talking about it. I know it's really expensive, but I didn't know like, okay, is this like a 50-50 shot or is it guaranteed it's gonna make me at least feel better, maybe it even heals this area. Like I haven't done enough diving into it to really fully understand.

Yeah, it's crazy. I'll tell you what though, going through, because I had to go from airport to obviously where I'll stay to Tom's Oh, no mask now, right? No, no. So well, yeah, that's good. Yeah, that too. So no mask at the airport now some people still do it Still do it. I would say probably now maybe yeah, I would say probably maybe 15 to 20% maybe maybe a little let maybe 15% That much still well, I wasn't I Well, I mean, in California still. So I'm assuming different states are gonna have different, of course, percentage of the people.

And I do understand. Do you think that's always gonna be the case? I have a feeling it will. At least like, like 5% or 2% of you. I feel like if you've committed this far, you may as well go all in and stay with it then. That's how I feel. So if you're in on at that far,

I know what there's potential I feel. You know, if you're in on it that far, it's going on. I know what there's potential risks of not wearing one, although the data shows, real world data shows that it didn't do anything, probably because people don't use proper medical protocol and use the exact right mask and good luck trying to get lots of people or kids to do that. Because we never considered that and we passed legislation. We always just say, this looks good, sounds good.

We don't equate human behavior, but nonetheless, I tell you, man, seeing people's faces is important for your health. It really is. It's the one part of the, so much your brain is dedicated to reading facial expressions and reading people's faces, more than any other part of their body,

and what we do is we cover each other up, and then you're in public, and you don't, in my opinion, is you don't get the same value that you get from being around people because you don't see faces, you just see bodies. It's a weird thing. I've always said this even before any of this happened, was just I never trusted somebody with a mask on.

It's just one of those things. You just, like, you think there's an ulterior motive, you think they're up to some mischief, like they're just that sort of condition that's already been there with me my whole life. So it's like to get me to totally conform to, to seem people differently was tough. Well, you can't read people. You guys ever, you guys ever had a friend who's just like socially does not read cues, like does not pick up on like people at all I had social cues and like oh my god. How does he not feel that or like the vibe? Yeah, so I mean you've had you've obviously right you guys have met people like this

Yes, so I wonder if like this time period is going to Create a percentage more of people that are like that right you've all've all had like, and that person's kind of an anomaly. Most people like, if someone gives you like this, we're looking kind of get it. Like, if I'm talking to somebody, it doesn't take very long for me to pick up if they're interested in hearing what I have to say or not, you know what I'm saying?

And then, if you said, I was taking the wrong way or the right way. Right, right, you're gonna go through a preteen kind of phase. But there's everybody has that friend or person they know that just does not pick up on social cues. So I'm wondering if these like, this past few years is going to have created Everybody has that friend or person they know that just does not pick up on social cues. So I'm wondering if these last two years is going to have created a much bigger percentage

of those people than we've ever seen before. Well, I'll tell you what. So if you travel to different countries and you stay in another country for a month or longer, because I've done this before, as a kid, we would go visit family in Italy. We'd stay for the whole summer. And there's cultural differences in cues and facial expressions.

That when I would go to Italy for two months, I would start to adapt to the cues there, and I'd come back, and there would be a period of adapting back over here. And I know Doug, you went to Japan. Was it similar for you, where you were reading cues and body? Yeah, absolutely. Right, so what we did essentially is we blocked a big part of that for a long time. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a period of relearning

kind of some of that stuff is gonna be awkward for a lot of people for a little while. So it's, and I did, I do, I saw people that were not just masked, they were masked, visor, goggles, gloves, like full on everything. And I'm like, man, that sucks to be that, to feel that afraid of yes or. It's the thing, it's like that fear still there

for a lot of people. So, but then the other thing is to you, what I was gonna say is driving through LA because I had to go from place to place and there were kind of a distance. Man, I went through some homeless encampments that were massive in LA. Huge, like driving through them like, wow, this is crazy, I don't realize it. What's the number up to, Doug? You know what the number is down in LA huge like driving through them like, wow,

this is crazy. I don't realize what's the number up to Doug? Do you know what the number is down in LA? Homeless, it's crazy, right? It's like 70,000, I think it's a it's a big. It's a huge. I think it's like, I mean, they have areas in LA. They're like dedicated just to like homeless. Yeah, like huge and camp. Oh, yeah. So I drove through some that were just,

I couldn't believe how big some of these encampments were. Well, yes, I We see estimated number Doug. I see numbers here for 2020 which is 66,000 Let me see here. That's a city. Yeah. No It's a mental health and just public health crisis that definitely needs to have you ever seen this dad's on what percentage of that is that is what mental health Yeah, when we talked to doctor Drew. Yeah, now this is kind of something that he's really working on, he said north of 85%, because there are people who are temporary homeless, that typically don't have, they have problems,

like something happen, challenges, they're temporary homeless, like trauma or something. People who like live on the streets, he said, oh, 85, 90% of them have severe mental illness that you gotta deal with. And they're addicted to drugs. So it's like, you can't, you have to treat those people.

Otherwise, you're not going to get it fixed, you know? Yeah, really crazy. Have you guys seen, now you've probably seen all the memes with Johnny Depp and everything kind of floating around. He was in court. He was in court this past week. Yes. I haven't paid attention.

All I know is is that the girl, Amber heard, Amber heard poop on the bed or something. And then something. Well, yes, you just jump right into it. This is his girlfriend wife, who wishes wife. And so they've had back and forth, I guess, like, so is a defamation case. So it's like she basically had defamation or defamation. I've always wanted shit on somebody's bed, you know? Okay. So I said, right, that's like the defamation. Defamation or defecation? I've always wanted to shit on somebody's bed, you know?

Okay, so I said it right. That's like the ultimate part. Turn it into a poop. It's the ultimate fuck you. Yeah. So I guess like she wrote something in some piece, like some article, you know, talking about abuse and this and that. They back and forth they both been kind of, no, she's lying or he's lying or whatever.

And so this is another case about a specific article that she wrote, I guess. And my point of bringing this up was really just that we're getting inundated with this and the life coverage, all this kind of stuff. And meanwhile, we got none of this from Gisley and Maxwell and that whole trial, we were like, completely removed from all those details,

all the people involved because it's such powerful people involved with that case. But now, here's the star that you guys know, and here's his wife who revenge pooped on his bed. And then it just turns into like this whole media coverage around that. Yeah. You know what? So isn't that like a do thing to do?

Is that not? What? I just said sexist for me to say that like dude shit on beds girls don't really see. I don't know anybody that's ever done this. What do you mean? But doesn't that feel like that's like a guy move to do that. Don't you feel like that? Like a prank maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like she got angry and she had one chambered like ready to go then she just like it's a whole just process Like yeah, you're right Adam because it's very much so usually Usually they don't even admit to pooping let alone yeah claiming that what that one's mine right that is kind of a guy Things yeah, okay, yeah, I'm pretty like I guess the security guard or whatever like took a picture of it sent it to him Like he was somewhere like Coachella or something

Like it's this like she just shit like around his side. That is not your cat that got on the bed, buddy. Yeah. One of the top three red flags. For a woman, you should leave number one. She takes a crap on your bed. Yeah. You know, and she admits I thought that was interesting. Now, I did read some speculation on the Maxwell case. And they said that one of the reasons why they didn't televised a lot and air law and we're not here. It was too graphic for the public. No, it's leading to other investigations and what they don't want to do is blow the cases.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. With all the cameras that went off and people committed suicide. I'm sure these powerful people are going to be enjoying. Yeah, they'll be saying that for the next eight years and until everyone just forgets about it. That's what I'm gonna have to do. It makes me so mad. Who's in jail right now with all that?

Who's in jail? Who's alive? Who's not still like, I should have in jail. She's in jail. She's, yeah, in jail. I'm trying to think of any powerful, obviously there's no real news about anybody going down that like we're part of the flight logs and all that kind of stuff.

Like they just, you know, there's been some press around who actually like had interactions there, but there's, there's many arrests. How crazy is it that? Because Epstein was so connected with celebrities and wealthy and powerful people. Say they kept them baking rule. Yeah.

It's like every celebrity is like six degrees. Six degrees from the Epstein. Think about this way. How many celebrities are like so afraid that just because they were at a party with them and took a picture. Sure. So like, please, God don't post them.

Just because you stood next to him now, someone could post the picture and be like, here you are with, it's like, you know, with Hitler. Ah, you know, I know, right? Crazy. Hey, so Elon succeeded, it looks like, which is cool. Wow, I mean, you said it before, right?

That he forced their hand. By making an offer like that, that's their duty is to do what's best for their shareholders. And if he's offering more than what the stock is trading at right now, they kind of have to, right? Or else they can get sued for that. Well, they try. Yeah, what was the move? So after they rejected the offer, then he wouldn't, he rallied some more investor.

He got some people. Yeah, he got some backing. Yeah. And he, you know, with the thought of it, that he could pay it. That he could pay it. Okay. So he showed his, yeah.

But they went around shopping other people. But there's other stuff that probably played a role. You guys know that governor DeSantis threatened to take Twitter to court for not upholding their fiduciary duties and potentially harming Florida pensioners, right? Because what they did, they did what's called a poison pill where they lower the price of the share by diluting it, making it harder to buy. And what DeSantis said is, we're going to sue you because you hurt all these people who invested in your company and their pensions. So what some people are speculating is the pressure of that potential lawsuit made them go, we better sell or we're going to be kind of screwed here. Now, my personal opinion is I don't like politicians

using the power of the government to mess with their whomever. And he's a fine line, you know. He's a bit authoritarian, I don't like that. He necessarily did that. But I wonder if that played a role because now Twitter's like, if we don't sell, we're gonna get crazy lawsuit,

we're gonna be, you know, looked at, all kinds of stuff's gonna be brought to life. What do I mean, they could've been sued by Elon too though, right? If he gives them a fair offer for that, and it's put in their duty to have to like, technically you could go to the SEC and bring up the case, but remember, this is the, these are pension unions in Twitter, I'm excuse me, in Florida.

Very powerful voting blocks. And also when your enemy is Elon, it looks different than when your enemy is a bunch of pensioners in Florida. Ooh, that didn't look good, right? So that's the speculation that that played a role. DeSantis, making some crazy moves. May he's going after Disney. I don't like that. I don't like how he's being authoritarian with this. He's definitely. I mean, don't you feel like you kind of have to, though, to fight fire with fire? No, because that's why we're here, dude. That's why we're in this position, yeah. I mean, don't you feel like you kind of have to though to fight fire with fire? No, because this is that's what we're here, dude. That's why we're in this position.

Is people are cool in their side, does it? And that raises the bar. And then the next other side does it, and then they raise the bar. And now we're at, we're at now, where it's like everybody's acting. Somebody has to be like, look, right, it's all the extremes.

Let's stop raising the bar with what we do here. I know, but who's gonna do a move big enough to Disney that can actually impact change in the opposite direction? If we all agree that Disney was going way, way, this one direction, which I think that is the feeling. The market, a lot of people. The market will tell them.

And the market started to tell them. That's it. That's it. Yeah, they're consumers. Yeah, their tax status in the status they had in Florida was since 1967. And oh, come on. DeSantis totally reverse that as to use his. Sure. Political power. That's why you're back. Also, I mean, they they had campaign to basically, sure, you know, go against his, his bill. It's all, that was all like a misrepresentation.

It's all technically legal. But what I don't like is, you know, you have governors or politicians saying, eh, this company's pissing me off. Let's find a way to look at their tax status or their, you know, how they're, they're situated in the government. Let's make it harder for them in a plan. So do you think now though that big businesses will kind of like back off a little bit of the throttle of the political realm?

I think it really depends on who's running the show. Not because of them, though. I think the market is showing them right now. What time it is. I mean, CNN plus, $300 million streaming service, that's how much they invested. And they expected millions of subscribers in the first two months. They got 10,000 subscribers. Shut down, right? Netflix tanking like

Disney's getting hit really hard. I think I think I think they were bomb and yeah, they were tanking pretty bad. It sucks. I don't think that that's I don't think that's just because of the whole them getting so woke. I don't think that's why it's they're taking. I think there's other, there's other factors that play here, especially with the streamers. I think other streaming services have gotten so good.

And I also think that people are paying six to seven dollars a gallon of gas right now and you're going, I mean, I know, I know if I was in that position, okay, the difference in my gas prices really started impact me that one of the areas I would ride away looked at cleaning. It's streaming, because I have damn near everything and I know I don't use everything. And so if I was trying to save 30 bucks, 50 bucks here and there, my buddy just did that.

I mean, one of our conversations we had this weekend was, he's cut out a lot of these stream servers that he says, you know what, I just, I evaluated which ones I really use and I just, I got rid of all of them but that one. And he goes and then with I have a show on HBO or show time that I really want, I'll wait till the season and then I'll get it for a short window. And what's so great is that you can cancel and then subscribe

again so easily. Yeah, I think that played a role, but you can see that Netflix got hard. HBO grew, Disney got hit hard. Amazon Prime, I think got hit a little bit. But you know what I predict? Is I predict that some of these streaming services are gonna come out with a free option.

I bet you Netflix is gonna come out and say, here's our free commercial. Kinda like Spotify's Yes, so now you can you can watch Netflix for free, but you get commercials. Yeah, I bet you that's what they're gonna do Money, yes, and that's just the way the markets moving in well They're already talking about that. I read an Netflix article. I think last week in broad show and one of the things Yeah, they were already talking about how much revenue they Potentially could gain by selling by selling ads on there.

So there's potential that Netflix was going to go that direction anywhere with the ad. They either have that or the really cracking down on people. So there's a, you know, I think a few, I think it was like a hundred million dollars worth of revenues that they could pick up by doing the ads and then by cracking down on people that are sharing passwords. So those are like, they're two, one of their two big plays to try and get them out of the hole that they're in right now. So with Elon buying Twitter now, what do you guys think is going to happen

with Twitter? Well, I love what you should talk about, like some of the tweets, people are just trying to test the waters right now, right? Oh, I was on there right now, and then there's people like people are tweeting like, I like Ifer Mecton and then someone else. I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Only women can have babies or not.

Now, how does, I'm saying things are contraption. How does that work? Because those are policies that have been passed by the board that are now embedded in Twitter. Obviously, Elon has the power to reverse it, but since he's just the changing of powers happening right now, and there's people being funny and doing some of that, I mean, technically

they can easily be removed still because it's still under the old policies, right? I guess. Until they change that. I don't know. I have no idea. Because I like Jack Dorsey is sitting up there at the top, speaking of which, Dorsey came out with a statement and said that Elon buying Twitter. I mean, read his exact quote.

He essentially is like, this is a good thing. Of course it is. You talk about one of the most brilliant men and entrepreneurs that we've ever seen. Yes, but Dorsey, okay, so what do you say? He said, this is the right path. So a lot of people don't know this, but Dorsey, and a lot of these original tech kind of moguls

or whatever, but Dorsey was very much a free speech guy. Of course. And when he left, there was speculation that he didn't like the fact that it got, you know, what people were taking and all this pressure to remove people. He wasn't happy with the point. I believe all these guys are like that. Even weirdo Zuckerberg or so.

I think they all, weirdo, yeah, he is fucking weird. He's so weird. But I mean, most of their model is built on that, is giving people free access and free speech and they didn't come out with trying to monitor. I think that's the pressure of the shareholders and the employees and stuff. It's this generation coming up right now that is extreme on that, on that woke side. And I think they're getting influenced and they're getting influenced by employees

and by shareholders. And so unfortunately, and what sucks for them, where I actually, and I know everybody likes to hate on billionaires, but where I have some empathy for them is I don't think it's what they want. I think they feel like their hand is being forced. So I'm sure Dorsey's like, fuck yeah, give me my payout.

Let me cash out and I wonder if Dorsey's just from the sidelines now. Yeah, I wonder if he played a role. Volatile and Elon taking over too. Well, so I heard that. I heard that even though he only had what, 2% ownership, whatever, he still had a lot of influence on the board on whether they would do that.

And so the room where I heard was that, he was very pro-Elon. Well, so Twitter interesting, right? I feel like what's gonna happen is, if they're able to crack down on the bots, and they start they start giving Authentication easier to people who can you can prove who they are? Yeah, didn't you have some plans about making the the badge the

Available team by if you pay for it. So basically authenticate right you show you're a real person So that way there's no question or dispute that you're bought. Yes, so doing all that, I bet at first you're going to see a drop in a large drop in chunk of users and whatever. He's going to clean things up. I've also seen people speculate that Twitter is a bloated company with way more employees that are necessary. So I'm wondering if he's going to cut out a lot of the fat.

Yeah, I saw that. Well, they're already like leaving. A lot of them are leaving anyway. That's what I think is the internet. I mean, I think it's the internet. But I mean, this could be the beginning because this would make if he follows through with this promise of open source algorithm,

getting rid of the bots, authenticating people. My opinion will be that this will be the cleanest, most real, fair social media platform. That's what I get excited is just eliminating all these bots, you know, from how many times I've seen arguments and you're like, are these even real people? Or is this just like a factory somewhere of troll factory where people are just like, literally influencing people

to get an argument? The brilliance of selling the verification badge is so smart because not only gonna make a bunch of money because everybody's gonna do it wherever you, as long as you price it somewhere fair, but now if you don't have that badge, you don't take that person seriously. They haven't been verified as a real human.

Therefore you will assume they're a bot. So it really will force a lot of these people in that direction like, if I'm gonna be active or build a business on Twitter, what are that? I'm going to spend the $200, $500, even $1000, whatever he's going to make that that's going to drive revenue through the roof. And it'll automatically, it'll take any sort of power that these random people have that are on there because they won't get verified because they're not really.

Because no conspiracy to this at all, it's fact that there's been, you know, outside influences from other countries that have created these like anonymous characters on there to just start shit. It will disrupt the, you know, the Good Old Boys club, the people that have got the badge that, you know, are famous and a lot of pulls and so on that, because then they're not that big of a deal anymore. Yeah, well, the other person who's verified.

I read that they asked me to. Up to 10% of Twitter users are not real or bots or these trolls. I saw that too. I would guess that. I would be honest with you. I mean, they're all like that. Instagram is that way, Facebook is that way, Twitter, and I would have thought that Twitter and Instagram were their worst.

Maybe Instagram's even more. Well, it has never like, behooved them to remove it because it's all about numbers. Now, I do want to say this because I got booted off of Instagram and I shared that photo to you. I shared him that would really download it. It's a big file. It's a small and blurry. I got kicked off Instagram and I felt it was unfair.

I didn't do anything whatever and I could tell that they were after me because I started getting notifications on. Things I posted in my story a year or two ago, even though they disappeared, which is really weird. So they only run for 24. So I knew something was up. Eventually I got kicked off. I felt like it wasn't fair.

People like, do you think we should regulate these companies? Do you think the government should regulate them? No. No, no, no. Because I know how markets work and eventually You'll see competition and what I don't want are bureaucrats Having the power to use these very powerful tools and they can manipulate them and then you're screwed Then you can't compete because they'll make laws against that and so I'm glad and I'm you know stick to my guns and here

We are Elon by his Twitter if feels like now there's some other competition. Yeah. And there's so interesting. I mean, I don't think it's that hard for someone to get booted. I think that all it takes is enough people to band together and report you enough times. I mean, I think it was the sixth time that I reported you by the time you finally got pulled off there. It pulled off there.

It says, it takes a few times. You can't just report you. What's the supposed to flexing pictures. No, really, I mean, I know there's people that think that like, you know, there's Jack Dorsey or some, you know, blue hair kid sitting there going like, oh my God, I can't believe he said that, cancel him, get him off, it doesn't work like that. You know what I do? It's too big.

It's like enough of these people get 20, 30 people to all report you 10, 15 times. That's one way to do it. I also think the algorithm that they'll create, which we don't know what that says, can target other specific types of conversations or types of people, or this is my belief. I got Shadowband once on Instagram. After that, I was targeted.

I feel like once they put you on a list, you're under a different set of rules. And now they're very sensitive. Well, that's, so I think there is a automated list like that. And the way the automated list, of course, we're speculating right now, right? I think that you have no idea. You got enough people, you ruffled enough feathers.

Does it work? That enough people reported it, that puts you in the shadow band category. Now, clarity. Some transparency. Well, that's the cool thing that you want is gonna say, right? I mean, that what he's saying he's gonna do is at least like give you some clarity

on how the algorithm works, which to me that would be amazing. That would be incredible. That's all we want. Yeah, I don't want a mysterious editor telling, you know, like then it feels unfair. Like what's going on? And okay, I got kicked off because I said this comment.

You got this mola from Iran on there that literally, you know, executes people just for being gay and he's on there, you know this mull up from Iran on there that literally executes people just for being gay and he's on there doing his stuff. How the hell is this fair? You know what I'm saying? So if it's open source, then we can be like, well, it's clear. Here's the deal. Here's where you crossed and you're done.

And I think that makes it the best option. But again, it's an open market. It's definitely get interesting. But I love all the people who are like, it's a private company they could do what they want. Now that Elon buys it, we need more government regulations. Shut it down. Shut up anyway. So how are you guys?

So we did, I want a little, I guess, kind of follow up or review here. We all did those, the hair tests with Dr. Crabral. This is where they, so people don't know, we worked with Dr. Crabral and he took samples of our hair, tested us for minerals, electrolytes, and toxic metals, or heavy metals, I should say. All of us were a little different. We all had a little bit of mercury, which is kind of weird, so we think it might be something

here in the studio. But nonetheless, he put us on a supplement regime in order to detoxify from the heavy metal. And also, I needed more copper. I know you needed some magnesium or zinc. Yeah. So we're all in a little different regime. I need some copper.

Are you guys feeling any different yet or is it too soon? So I think it's too soon to notice that one of the things I realize about myself, I'm really bad with consistently taking that many pills. So I order on Amazon, I've got the whole... I know, I have to give you your supplements half the time. I'm just, it's true. I get you on a little train. Are you good at it?

I'm, I did. No, I got, I actually bought it for the entire month. I have it with me. So I have it in the car. I'll show you guys the one I got because it even splits up. So it's a seven day pill box. Like, amp.

It does, as amp in there. And I bought four of them. Hey, those containers are not big enough for the better shit that I just did. Well, that's why, I mean, even though like, what just the AMP I'm in there, and I bought four of them. Hey, those containers are not big enough for the matter of shit that I took. Well, that's why, I mean, you, and even though, like, what just the stack that I'm taking, I'm just, I'm really not, I'm not good at that. I've never been, I've never been a big supplement taker.

It's a routine. It's a routine, I can show you. I can show you how to get it in that. And what sucks is like a multi-vitam in some of these pills that I'm taking, like, I have to do it with food. And so there's a lot of mornings where I don't eat something right away. I don't eat till my first meal, till after we've podcasted in the morning sometimes. And so I'm behind on that. I'm not. So I've got everything now. So I bought all the stuff. I stacked it out. I mean, it's a very detailed regimen. Like they give you,

not only do we get this great consultation where they break down everything that's going on with me, where I'm deficient, what we need to supplement with, but then he even gives you this printout of, you know, every single day, morning night. They do a really cool way of like color coordinate. These are all liquids, this is all pills, this is optional, this is like must. Like, so I mean, I love, I will say,

this is the only way, in my opinion, this is the only way to really take nutrients properly. And what I mean by that is, you could take a general multivitamin or you could guess what to take, but you don't really know unless you're tested. And then like I would have not guessed that I need it, that my zinc to copper ratio was a lot. I don't, supplement with copper.

Well, I don't think any of us would have guessed, but what I thought was interesting was when he was reviewing it with us, how like he doesn't know us personally. I mean, we have like a small relationship with him, not enough to know our habits and our eating and stuff. But like, I felt like we all could have guessed the report who it went to based off of where they were deficient and the things he talked about. So I thought that was really, really interesting. It was spot on with everybody. To do the whole supplement stack and be consistent with all of it, it's not cheap at all, but I mean, it's going to be customized to that person.

So I think that's where, obviously, they make up for it over the course of time. I'm on the Zinc Copper Supplement with the right ratio. I have, I'm doing the Broken Cell clorella and cilantro, that's to help with the mercury. I'm also doing sauna or steam or both five days a week, which helps. So in my breakdown, it actually says to do the cleanse separate of my other stack. So I'm actually not running the cleanse right now. So I don't, and I didn't get clarity. And I, if you take them together, I think they'll, they'll prevent the absorption of some.

Right. So I'm not right now. So I have everything. I have all the supplements to do the mercury cleanse, but I'm actually just doing the other stuff first. So he's separating it by time, not even in the day. Yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So there, yeah, you have to,

so I mean, I don't know if yours is simple, like somewhere in that area or not, but in mine, it says to not take the cleanse thing while also taking my other stack. So right now I'm doing, I'm for me. Obviously, I want to get all my levels balanced, but I mean, the hope for me is that this helps my psoriasis more than anything else because it's an autoimmune issue.

And if I can get all this balanced out, I'm hoping that I'm going to see that. And it's too early to tell in here right now, but I definitely, I know I've been complaining you guys like it was the worst. It's been in my life like after COVID. I'm back to much better. Really?

Yeah, I hate, I don't want to, I don't want to attribute all that to what I'm doing right now. I feel like it's too early to do that. But I definitely am better than what I just was a month ago. Speaking of nutrients, study just came out that they gave, this was a really good study. They gave, I think it was people over the age of 70,

I wanna say, 60 or 70. 2000, I use a vitamin D a day, 1000 milligrams or a gram of omega-3s every day, and two days or three days a week of basic strength training, 30 minutes. So this was the regime that they put people on. Massive reduction in cancer was like, it was like 30% reduction in cancer from doing those things, and it was like a 50 or 60% reduction in all cause mortality from doing those three

things. Vitamin D, omega-3, strength training. Now, strength training by itself or resistance training, when they were looking at the effects of, there was another say I looked at whether they have compared different forms of exercise on health. Strength training was the one that showed the greatest anti-cancer risk, more than cardio,

more than other forms of exercise. Yeah, that's really cool. Fascinating. I mean, in terms of supplements, those are the two that I tend to recommend the most, because you find people are definitely deficient for the majority of people who are deficient in those nutrients. Yeah, I feel like more so, at least in my short fitness career, I've heard vitamin D talked about more now than I did before.

I don't know if that's because of COVID and the stuff that they can connect. It's because it's so low. You test a bunch of people is it 60, 60, something percent of all people are deficient. Yeah. The numbers I saw are like 40 to 60 percent, but even if it was 20 percent, like it's a lot. I'm that's millions and millions of people. Yeah.

And and being in a being deficient, vitamin D acts like a hormone in the body. Being deficient vitamin D is not great. I mean, you talk about you're more anxious, you're more depressed, depression goes up, you have hormone issues. If you're a man, your testosterone's gonna be low, if your vitamin D is low.

Do you know what the mechanism that it works with an order? I know it's directly connected to testosterone too, right? If you have really low vitamin D levels, you also tend to have low testosterone. What is it that causes it, do you know? I don't know, I'm not quite sure. But I know the way the body synthesizes vitamin D Is it uses cholesterol which is kind of this base molecule right to steroid molecule?

And when you're exposed your skin to the sun it uses the it turns cholesterol into vitamin D if I'm not mistaken you get more vitamin D And just something we stripped out of our diet completely. Yeah, and we don't even eyes for it Whatever in the sun anymore either. I think that's a lot of why I think that's why we're seeing it and why it's Continually to get worse because we're under fluorescent lights all day and less and less people are outside like I just think that has a lot to do with 100% 100% all right, I want to touch on something real quick that happened this Over the weekend So it's interesting because and I want to talk about it a little bit because we kind of did this early when we started mind pump

But we did this differently. Then the way I'm seeing a lot of people do this now on social media, and this is where pages, small-ish pages, 5,000 followers, 10,000 followers. One of their strategies to grow and get attention is to attack a large growing brand. And they do so to get attention so that they can grow. And it's really annoying and it's really dumb because, and now I know we used to do this

as well because, you know, obviously when we first started, we were small and our goal was to expose a lot of the myths out there. But we were also very careful about who we went after. And a lot of these other pages are doing is they take things out of context. And it's just like, oh, you're big. And they did this to, they took some of my posts, some of these pages, put them here to eat. And they were so add-to-contacts.

You were tweets, they were. And they were so add-to-contacts. I was referring to episodes that we had done and they're like, they're trying to find out. It was such a reach. They're just trying to find any angle it could to put you on blast. Yeah, stupid.

And now the issue I have with it is, first off, it's dumb. You're not helping anybody, because now you're just confusing a bunch of people. It's a cheap way to grow your brand. But here's my irritation. It's with myself, because it's really hard for me not to get annoyed. And you have to. And then give them the attention they want.

It's like they win, you know what I mean? I got a little bit of a shock. I just practiced. Yeah, I'm going to have to keep working on it, because it's just going to get worse. I just hate it. Josiah just interviewed me, and we actually went down this path. He's like a long time listener, a fan of ours from early, early days. And he was bringing up like, yeah, I haven't really had a chance to be as consistent as I

used to be. I still peek in on you guys, but man, it almost sounds like the mission is different today than what it was before. And he goes, so has the mission changed. I said, you know, it's funny. I get that from people that heard us really early on. And then maybe they took a break for a few years or when then they came back and then they hear how we communicate.

And they feel like, oh, we're different now. We're not the missions different. Or we were, and I go, you know, it's not that. I said, I think we went through a point where what you're talking about, where we were we Doctors or famous people or massive influencers if you were promoting bad stuff Or we thought you were operating in a place of lack of integrity or morals or what that we would use you as an example to teach our audience Like let's take that and I said there came a point

teach our audience. Let's take that. And I said, there came a point where we started to feel like, man, we have to be careful because we're not so small anymore that it could kind of come off as bullying. Yeah. All right. And even when we started it back then, the intention was never to hurt, right? It was the counter. Well, it was to use them as an example to help others, right? It was like we didn't go like, hey, that guy's giving bad energy. Let's crush his business. That wasn't how we do. He said, hey, here's a great example of somebody who has massive influence or a lot of people pay attention to or they think he's right because of his acronym after his name. Let's use them as an example so we can educate and teach our audience. But at some point, we got to the size where if we did that, it came off like we were bullying people.

And so, and also we were, we were, we did do diligence to try to maintain context and to be accurate because, you know, if I do a tweet that has a statement on it and I'm referring to an episode, or I'm obviously talking to a mind pump fan, you know what I'm talking about, but out of context, I the context, what do you,

what do you mean? I'll give you an example of that. Lane was a great example of this. Lane has some things that we disagree with. Yeah. But we also really like Lane. I can say we consider Lane as one of the good guys that are in the space that are promoting good information overall.

Yet there are some things we differ in opinions about. And so, we would take something and debate or have a talk. We wouldn't try and bash or put him down. Or we would all say, like, I really like a lot of stuff he puts out, this one statement or this one point, I disagree with it and this is why, where you just see, and then the people that you're referring to right now,

I don't want to give them any light because they're, they're, they're no, that's what they want. They're nobody, right? But what right away where they lost credibility for me is I saw they were targeting two other big pages, one of those being squat university and I can't remember the other one, but both were people that I like that I think that are, whether I agree with all of their information or not, when I'm looking at them, I'm like, these are people that I think have a very good message and are helping most people.

It's like when we saw someone attack Max Lugavir, same thing, it's like, you're going after the wrong people. If you're gonna build your business off a punking people for putting disinformation out there, then go after the people that are really harming or not helping or manipulating people. Don't go after somebody who's promoting a really good message

and then take something out of context and try and fucking just, you know, make your son of a murderer. Yeah, it's just a bad look. And if you don't know the motivation, that's where we try to bring the awareness. You know, and it's like, we know the tricks. We know the ways that, you know, the focus can be

a lot more on money and attention and all these other factors to it that we know it's not about getting your behaviors to change in a positive direction, which is that's usually who we try to bring on the show or bring light to are people that are concerned about that and really helping your average person, not confusing them with all these little nuance details of, you know, if we get into, especially in the scientific, the intellectual side of our space, it's all it is is just, we're gonna get an arguments about nonsense that doesn't help anybody just.

Yeah, it's a splitting hairs argument. We're gonna keep pushing it and this study shows that. No, but it's mental masturbation. The thing that annoys me is honestly, is that they won because the goal was to get attention. They got your attention. And to start a little thing, and after I let myself calm down,

I'm like, here's a deal, I have a, this is a personal thing. When someone lies about me or my team and I know our intentions, I'm a pit bull. And so when I, and as we get bigger, it's gonna keep it, it's gonna happen more. And so I need to like, so I gave myself a rule. If I see something like that, I'm gonna wait 24 hours. Oh, there you go.

There you go. Yeah, because if I respond with that, that's a great way to do that, because I bet you 99% of the time. More, probably 100%. Yeah. It's almost every time it's a waste of my time. Well, yeah, because it gets you emotionally riled up.

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Yeah, piss people off. I feel like of all the health fields in positions that chiropractors fall very neatly into two categories. They're either really smart, brilliant, understand correctional exercise and do a great job, or their quacks, shucksters. Like I have not met anybody in the middle, they're either supplement panelers. Here or they're here.

So, okay, so like- Well, I feel like that's the same, it's the same, you're saying the same thing, just some decided to wield their powers for good and others decided to wield their powers for bad. Right, it's like, you get the dark side because what it is is you have all that knowledge and information. So you have the ability to communicate things about the body that most people don't. And there can be tremendous value in chiropractor work.

And there is also the ability to give somebody instant relief, which that's very powerful. And so then from there it is, you know, do you have integrity and do you, do you give these people not only the instant relief that you know you can give them, but also the way to address the root cause of how they got, of how they got here or are you in the business of just keeping appointments going for the rest of their life? Which by the way, a lot of clients in mind that I used to train, I remember I'd get clients and they'd be like, oh yeah, I'd be doing

like their schedule and they'd be like, oh, that's the day I see my car-packed her. And I'm like, oh, what do you see your car-packed her? Oh, I always see my car-packed. It's just like, yeah, exactly. It's like, it becomes something that they just do forever. And what do they do for you? I'm going to get a Justin. Yeah, and. It's like, it becomes something that they just do forever. And what do they do for you?

Are they going to get adjusted? Yeah, and they feel amazing, okay? So then so it's hard to, especially when I'm the new trainer who just hire to be like, oh, well, maybe you're never gonna need that again after I get a hold of you, but you don't want to say that because they've built a relationship and a consistency with this person.

And I'll give a little bit of, I guess, in terms of how they promote some of the business practices, I think that sometimes it kind of ends up a certain way. So if you have chiropractors that are doing well business-wise, they start structuring it in a way where they can see more appointments and more frequently, and so you start reducing the amount of time they're actually servicing these patients. That's true. There's a name for that.

Is it network chiropractic? Is that what it is, Doug? Doug, you were in the field a little bit. It was like a term for it where it was like a business model. Was he in a field or was he one of the guys who got suckered into it? No, no, but he was, Doug was, he, back when I used to train Doug, and when we first became friends,

he helped with some chiropractors in their marketing. So we kind of understood a little bit. Not with marketing, I didn't help. It was a marketing, it was a good name. No, I sold life insurance to the chiropractors. Oh, that's right. Yeah, so I mean, I know there are some groups that are very much like, let's turn these people

through our system if that's what you're referring to. Yeah, where they'll set up like five people. Fifty-minute. And they'll go crack the team in increments. Yeah, I think good chiropractors use correctional exercise a lot. Bad ones just adjust. Now adjustments have their place,

and the people that really explained this the best to me are two chiropractors, I have a tremendous amount of respect for. Jordan shallow and Dr. Justin Brink. Okay, Dr. Justin Brink in fact helped us create maps prime pro, so he was actually somebody that we worked with to put that together.

And then Jordan Schallel's just a spiraling guy. And the way that they explain the adjustments is there are parts of the body where either through poor movement patterns or type muscles or your CNS is protecting certain areas, you can't articulate a joint. And so what happens is the muscles around they get tight kind of sees up and then the way you release them is like if the way I would release my hamstring my hamstrings will type

I stretch it, right? So they're able to articulate a joint Cause that release. Oh the CNS now. Let's go that muscle allows the muscle relax and I feel pain relief But then what you have to do is follow up with correctional exercise to prevent what is causing that to happen in the first place. Otherwise, what'll end up happening is what you're saying at them. You got to keep going to the chiropractor every week for the same thing in my neck, the same thing in my back. My shoulder always hurts. They crack it and it feels better. But then next week I got to go back. You wanted to unlock your movement potential. So if there's something restrictive and

so sometimes like there's been accidents or there's been injuries or certain things where, you know, your joint just doesn't have that range of motion anymore and you need that manipulation, that subluxation, I guess, like call that to kind of pop things in alignment. So that way, now I can go through those ranges of motion, but you have to keep consistently practicing that to read, learn that with, you know, your muscles to respond properly. I find it really ironic that our maps, prime pro and prime program are the programs that some chiropractors are most critical of when it was something that we created with Dr.

Brink. And I think they're critical of it because it takes from their business. If I give people the answers on how to fix something themselves, if they put the work into address, like your, what your point was the root cause, they may never need a car park to again. And this is what I would tell clients when they would come in and say, Oh, I see my car park forever. And I said, well, you know, we'll see after I get a chance to assess you and we start training. But you know, there's a very good chance that I can eliminate you ever having to see them again, right? Like we can actually strengthen your imbalances and get to a place where you don't have chronic pain all the time and you don't need someone to pop you to get relief.

You know what? I'm gonna counter that and the reason why I'm gonna counter that is because a lot of trainers will feel that way too. If I get and I've heard people say this what happens if you get someone in shape, you're losing clients, they're not gonna come back. The better I got as a trainer, the longer people stayed with me. And the best chiropractors who understand correctional exercise.

I know, they have the biggest- It's a scarcity mindset. It's a scarcity mindset, and of course, it's not how brink or shallow think, it's just why we're good friends. I'll never forget when I first met brink. Do you know the very first time we ever met? He showed up to one of our live events. I don't even know who he is. And he walked up and he introduced himself and he told me it was a car

partner. And you know I told him I told him that I don't like car practice. Yeah. And he said me too. It was a bet. It was the best response you could have given me because at this point in my career, I'd already been so many car partners would try to attach themselves because they have personal trainer gets to train so many clients that it's like a great lead place for a lot of chiropractors. And so I'd have a lot early, my early careers, when I didn't know any, early career, I didn't know any better, I'd have a lot of chiropractors that would kind

of hang around me and my trainers and our businesses because they would try and pluck clients out of it. And of course, I have this kind of chip on my shoulder about it already. So that's how I said that's a break. But he had such the right response, yeah, me either, because a lot of them are. The first time I got a session with him, he didn't do a single adjustment. It was all assessment, correctional exercise, and movement, yeah. And movement, yeah. That's, and those are the good, the good people, they understand correctional exercise, they use adjustments as a way to help,

correct the root cause, and the good ones grow their practices as a result they don't lose clients because they saw the patients learn something I mean at the bottom line they're going in there they're you know talking their way through whatever aches or pains but the point is like they're leaving with something that they can apply at home not just getting there to get some temporary relief thank you and I was going to say this because the question is, how often should you see a car car car car? I'm going to give you some red flags instead. If you go in and all they do is adjustment and then you leave when they want to book out your all your appointments, red flag. That's a big red flag. If you go in and they do assessments, they look at correction

and exercise, watch how your body moves. They take you through movements and exercises to correct the issue. They're probably going Well, that's like going to a personal trainer to sweat and get sore. Yes, it's very similar. The trainer just moves you around. Yeah, you come back, I'll get you to sweat. Have had a really big sore. Well, that was another thing that I loved about being one.

I never ever once got on the table with him. He didn't, he never had to adjust me. He watched my movement and then he gave me a prescription of things to do consistently. And then he didn't say, let's book another appointment or let's schedule you twice a week for this long with that. He literally said to me, like, do these movements, hit me up if you still are experiencing pain or if you still have discomfort or if you notice that.

And then we'll go from there. But that to me, that is the sign of like a really good chiropractor is when they see you and they do a good assessment and they figure out what's going on. Sure, they adjust you to give you that immediate relief, but then they're prescribing to you things that you should be doing on your own. If they're not prescribing for you to do anything on your own whatsoever, then they're in the business of just adjusting you and having you come back every single day.

I've been to quite a few where I'd show up and they, you know, oh, your neck hurts and they do crack, crack, okay, we're done. Yes, you win today. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, you know, and I guess I feel a little better and they're like, yeah, when I see, then I'd see someone who was really good and they'd be like, well, let me see you walk

and let me see you stand and then pull your head back and turn over here and do this movement and then let's try this exercise and then you do this one for, you know, 15 minutes. Does it feel any better? Yeah, it does. Okay, let's start with that for now and I and then you do this one for 15 minutes. Does it feel any better? Yeah, it does. Okay, let's start with that for now. And I want you to do this twice a week

and then come see me next week and then I'm gonna try a different move. Like that's when, you know, you're working with someone that's good. So the question about how often should you see one? Well, if you find a good one, that's a little possible. It's whatever they tell you, that's the prescription.

Whatever the prescription is is right. If it's the, you know, oh, 10 minutes, here's your adjustment. Oh, good, you feel better than I'm gonna, that's the person that you probably should never see. So it doesn't matter what they prescribe. Go the opposite direction and find a chiropractor that understands movement and correctional exercise. Next question is from Eric Nasser.

Other than reducing the risks of metabolic adaptation, what are other positives of using calorie cycling over the same daily caloric intake? And sanity purposes. So I'm gonna eat the exact same thing. Well, so let me break down the question first for people might understand. So typical like prescriptive diet,

would have you eating the same calories every single day, the same grams of proteins, fats, acarbohydrates, and in extreme cases, exactly the same food every single day. And studies show that when you cycle the calories where there's higher calorie days, lower calorie days, ultimately equaling the same amount of calories at the end of the week, but it's fluctuating that that prevents, or at least mitigates what's called metabolic adaptation, where when you're in a calorie deficit, when you're in low calorie, your metabolism slows down to adapt,

but if you do higher calorie and lower calorie days versus the same all the time, it reduces that effect. Which if you understand adaptation, I feel like this is kind of obvious. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, the way anything your body gets, if you want something in your body to get good at and adapt to, right, with anything else, you do it as frequent and as consistent as possible of the same. So it figures out, oh, he's going to do this to

me every day in my workout. Oh, he's going to do this every morning, wake up at this time. And then the body gets really good at that and adapts. So why would we think it's any different than with the metabolism? If you eat the exact same way all the time before long, the body goes, okay, this is how we're gonna eat. Yeah, because they did the studies where they had what they would call cheat days or whatever, where people would eat higher calorie days. And at the end, they lost more body fat than people who stayed consistent. And I think it's because the metabolism adapted less as a result.

But the question is, what are the other benefits to doing so? Forget metabolic adaptation. What are the other benefits? Well, I think the biggest so? Forget metabolic adaptation. What are the other benefits? Well, I think the biggest benefit is not metabolic adaptation. The biggest benefit is it mirrors real life more. Yes, like a logical balance.

How are you gonna go from a meal plan that has you eat exactly 2,000 calories, exactly 100 grams of protein, exactly X amount of grams of carbs of fat every single day? How you gonna go from that to then- Can you just go to- Flexibility? Yeah, we're gonna go to normal life afterwards.

Well, also, I mean, what I love about it is that okay, it's Friday night I'm gonna go to the the warriors game. I love having a hot dog or popcorn Why I'm in there so on Thursday or Wednesday Thursday? I'm gonna calorie cycle. I'm gonna go Lower so that when I go to the game. I'm not going. Oh, punching in my phone Oh, that's 200 calories from a hot dog. That's a, I'm going to enjoy myself. And I'm going to have, and know that I'm probably going to over consume on calories a little bit for the day, but I get to be a normal human being and enjoy a basketball game without

freaking out. I went over my calories and all I had to simply do was adjust them the previous day. Yeah, because the ultimate goal, when you're, I guess, a coach or a trainer, the ultimate goal is you take somebody from this unaware state of diet to more awareness, which means they probably are going to follow some rules. They're going to follow some structure. And then eventually your goal is to get them to the point where they can lead normal lives or they're not necessarily following rules, but they have a better awareness, better

connection and they eat in a balanced, healthy way on their own. It's really hard to transition from same calories, same grams of proteins, fats, and carbs every single day, or maybe even same foods every day to regular living. It's easier to transition when you have fluctuations. When I say Saturday and Sunday, you like to eat more, you're gonna have more calories on those days. Or what are you doing, like you said?

Oh, Thursday night, you're going out with your wife. Let's move these calories from this day into this day and it's gonna, it's easier transition into real life. Well now on the counter to that, do you think there's some people out there though that have some bit of addictive tendencies who are very much like control freaks? Like I have to have this the same exact way.

Like you give them anxiety when you say that okay now tomorrow I can go up this high and then I have to jump back into like, like, gives them anxiety when you say that, okay, now tomorrow, I can go up this high, and then I have to jump back into, like, you know, adjusting. And those are the people I make do the most. Right. And you do have to be careful, right? I think I know we just said that casually,

like, oh, just adjust my calories on Wednesday. It's hard for people. Some people, okay, and I mean, you know, I consistently say on the show, don't eat like an asshole, but consistently, this is what happens to a lot of people is they go, okay, I consistently stay on the show, don't eat like an asshole, but consistently this is what happens to a lot of people is they go, okay, I heard that on my pump that I should fluctuate my calories.

Seven thousand calories on Saturday. Yeah, and so- And 200 calories on Saturday. Yeah, so then they just go extreme. It's like that is not the idea. The idea is that you don't have to be neurotic about being so consistent every day. And so there's a little bit of this flexibility in your diet,

but it does take a little bit of self-awareness to understand who are you? Are you still in this phase of I'm still trying to figure out what a calorie is and what protein grams fat and how much how much I'm supposed to have and I haven't even strung together a few weeks. Are you training consistency? Yeah, it's like it's yeah, if you haven't been consistently eating well for yourself and training really well and you're you're going into your Second week of your first consistent week of being good and you're like, hey, I'm gonna do with the guy said and just kind of lower my Calais and Wednesday then Saturday I'm gonna enjoy the game like it's like and then you go crazy and eat seven eight thousand calories Well, okay, well, you're not ready for that yet. Maybe you should eat a little more consistent right now

until you've proven that. So it does take a little bit of self-awareness on who you are, where you are, and your journey with nutrition and exercise to how you take this advice. Now, I'm gonna take this now a little more granular. So this is more for people who really know what they're doing, maybe more fitness fanatics. I think there's also value in cycling, carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. I notice when I go, I'll have a low protein

day or two and low for me would be 50% of my body weight in grams. So if I weigh two, you know, about 210 pounds, so 105 grams would be low protein for me. High would be 200 or more. I notice when I have a couple low protein days and then I go back up to high, my body seems to be more sensitive for protein. And there's some studies that suggest this may happen. Bodybuilders for a long time also cycled carbs. And notice that when they cycle carbs,

they get more sensitive to the carbohydrates, more athletic performance benefits, better pumps, and they get leaner, easier. So I think there's more value to cycling your macros hydrates, more athletic performance benefits, better pumps, and they get leaner, easier. So I think there's more value to cycling your macros and your calories physiologically than just the metabolic adaptation. I think there's performance benefits as well that we may not fully understand. So for those of you that are like fitness fanatics and really dial the stuff in, try that

out and see what happens. Going low carb, higher carb, lower-protein, and even fat. See how you feel. Next question is from Iowa West. What would your routine go to workouts look like at age 45? I mean, like right now. Yeah, I've been full-service with me. I'm the youngest in the R&B 41, so I think we're all getting pretty close to that.

I think it's important to highlight what we're looking at when we're talking about a 45 year old. You either have the fitness fanatic who's 45 or the decondition 45 year old, so two different people, right? The fitness fanatic. You're also your goals too at that time, of course, right? Of course. But so the fitness fanatic 45 year old, they're probably going to have more wear and

tear. There's more opportunity for crappy lifting or crappy training. There was definitely a decade of my training where I'm sure I did a lot of damage, maybe to my body. So you got to take that into account. Someone who's deconditioned, at the age of 45, you start to notice a little bit slower recovery, I would say is probably the biggest thing. And then lifestyle, you're 45, you probably got kids, you probably got a mortgage, you got

a job. So it's not like you have all the time and the sleep in the world to dedicate to training. So those are the considerations. Yeah, it's just like anything else about being an adult at this level, right? Like there's a lot more prep that's involved. Like I've never had to do mobility rituals

and priming before workouts, before I wasn't even a thing in my mind, I would just get after it. And there's just things like that that I always have to consider and making sure I have an adequate amount of calories before I lift or it's gonna ruin my entire workout. Like there's just things you notice,

like patterns that have definitely intensified over the years that I have to really consider how it's gonna affect my next day and my next workout. So everything is a lot more thought out. You know, I'm gonna speak to myself since I think there's so many variables on what this looks like, right? Like you said, there's, depending on their level, their goals, like, I mean, this could be so different

for so many people personally. And I feel like I'm in the transition of this right now in my life of like, what am I, what are my workouts gonna look like, you know, beyond 45, 50 years old going? And I think what it looks like that is different than what it has looked like in the previous decade is more flexibility on what I would constitute a workout.

Right, so, you know, the meathead guy who cares about it the way he looks, which was a major driver for me for most of my life, was all about my muscles, you know, what looks good and how lean or body fabric were. Now it's not like that for me. Now I do it for staying healthy and flexible and strong and stamina and also how it affects my mood and how productive I have around the house and what a better partner I am. And so that doesn't necessarily

require me hitting X amount of volume inside the gym. It actually requires me to do very, very little volume of strength training like to maintain the physique that I worked really hard to get to. And so now, like working out, you know, I may have planned like today's a lifting day, the day's a leg day for me to train. And let's say it didn't work out, like, I wouldn't be like, it didn't work out, maybe today I get home and instead I go

for a two hour walk with Katrina. You know, and that would constitute a workout where I wouldn't count that as working out or what that. Or maybe I don't get to workout at all. And so I then really adjust the way my eating is. So I think just in 45 and beyond, I think there's just more flexibility in what I would consider working out and stuff like that.

And then maybe my 45th birthday is coming up. And so I just have a personal goal. Hey, I want to look pretty bad ass at 45 still. So I kind of ramp it up for the last two or three months before or dial the diet in any tighter, tighter so I can say, law, cool, I look cool at 45. Yeah, that reminds me of a conversation.

I just had recently my brother-in-law and he was kind of talking about getting back into it. But you know, I just, I don't get what I used to get out of the workouts. And so he would decide to not do the workouts unless he could do the full length of like an hour to an hour and 20 and like hit all the body parts

and all that stuff. And I'm like, look, man, you have to totally look at this differently now. There's things that get in the way all the time. And I've had to really focus on getting it in while I could, even if it's 15 minutes, because throughout the day I can actually do that in chunks and it actually is just as good if not better sometimes than doing a full-length workout. So it's alleviating a lot of the pressure around it and getting

rid of the all-in sort of mentality towards it. There's pros and cons. Cons, your body's probably gonna take longer to recover. You're a little bit more prone to injury and you're more likely to have more solidified muscle and balances or issues just because you're older. So if you've been moving bad, you've been moving bad for longer periods of time.

So what are the pros? Your wiser? This is true. If I work out with a 25 year old, or I work out with a 45 year old, I mean everybody's got an ego, but the 25 year old is more likely to not be very wise. Whereas a 45 year old goes,

you know what, actually, let's not put more weight on the bar. I just want to feel good right now. It was a 25 year old cycle. I don't care, I just want to add weight to the bar and see what happens. So there's definitely pros and cons. Here's a wonderful pro for people who work out

for years and years and years and then hit this age. It requires way less intensity and volume to get your body to stay in shape than it does to get there in the first place. Like I work out now way lighter. In fact, I'm doing almost all machines right now because I'm trying to give my body a break and let my check my ego.

So I'm working out getting a pump with machines. I'm using weight that in the past would have been a waste of time for me. Right now, I'm maintaining my physique because of the years that I have under my belt training. So there's a lot of pros there. You can also, you train smarter. I'll tell you what, a smart 30 minute workout

is better than a one and a half hour workout. So there's a lot that you could do with this, and I'll say this, I trained a lot of everyday average people. All of us did. My most fit clients, okay? We're almost all in their 40s, almost all of them. Now is it because their age gave them an advantage and you know, because they're, no, obviously,

they're at a disadvantage compared to the 20 something or 30 something year olds that I would train, but they were smarter about it. They took more time. They were more off, they listened more in terms of mobility and correctional work. And they were also had developed discipline. They tended to develop discipline or at least value developing discipline because, you know, in your 45, you start to figure things out because you have kids, you work, and you're like, oh, I gotta have some structure because this isn't gonna work if I don't have structure. And then when you go to work out, you're like, you know what? What worked with my kids and my job, I'm gonna apply to this workout. I'm gonna be smart about it. I'm gonna do things the right way. So, you know, so there's a lot going for you either way. But yeah, I mean, you have

to eventually change how you approach your workouts because, you know, 45, you start to feel it, 55, 65, 75, you can't have the same idea of what a good workout is because you're going to hurt yourself. You can't, you're 20 something years old that you, you, you tend to kind of muscle everything or get through everything, through motivation and push and drive. And I think in use, you get into your 40s, you start to realize it's much more of a dance. You know, it doesn't take, it's not, you start to cut out a lot of the fat.

You don't, you don't, you realize that it's not as hard as it, as you thought it was. Like, I think I, I think I pushed myself so hard in my 20s and maybe early 30s trying to accomplish something or get somewhere and look back now and go like, man, that could have been a lot easier for myself. Yeah, totally. It would have been a lot easier if I would have just backed off this a little bit, increased that a little bit more, focused a little bit more on sleeping here, did a little bit, and I think the results would have came.

And I think you, through trial and error, I mean, and you would think because we're all professionals in the field that we should know better, like we all started in this 20 years ago or more, that you would, but no, even us, we even with the education, the experience, still had to learn the hard way of banging our head against the wall. And I think by this point in our lives, I've kind of figured that all out.

It's like, and that study, it was so revealing to me when you shared that. I think it was earlier in the year about, you know, one seventh of the volume is required to maintain muscle. So it takes seven times more to build it and only one seventh of that to just to hang on to that. And if you just think about that for a second, if someone did the exact same workout every single day, seven days a week for 20 years of their life, they literally can reduce that down to working out one day a week

to maintain what it took them to build. That's crazy. When you think about that. Now there's other additional benefits with being active every day. Mentally beneficial. Sure. But when it comes to what you're saying,

I mean, I noticed that. I keep it, you know how hard it was for me to keep my body weight above 195 pounds when I was in my 20s. It was like, ah Now it's like I work out once a week and I stay that way. So it's a big difference But here's my favorite part about getting older when I was a lean muscular 22 year old You know, I look different than other 22 year olds. Let me tell you man You put me around a bunch of 43 year olds now, and I look way better. And that's only gonna continue as I continue to age.

So as you get older, stop comparing yourself to your younger you. Look at your peers. You'll blow your, you'll blow the metal one. You're high school reunion. You have a real good time. That's a, next question is from Lindsay Wundov.

Can taking pain killers before or after lifting inhibit muscle growth? Yes, you can. In part, it's the, it's the NSAIDs, right? The non-sterroidal anti-inflammatories that will do this, which is Advil, right? I'd be proffin. Yes, so ibuprofen, naproxin, aspirin,

I believe is an NSAID. And I know I see the, see the benefit is not, that's a pain killer, but it works through a different mechanism. But what they do is they block the, cross the gladins that contribute to inflammation. So you get reduced pain and inflammation, but that's also a signaling process

that tells your body to build muscle and to recover and repair things. So they've done studies where they show that regular use of these NSADS actually increases risk of muscle tear and joint problems, joint degeneration because it's blocking that inflammation signal. The vital signal.

Will it reduce the muscle building signal? Yes. They also show studies that reduces muscle protein synthesis when people use ibuprofen, for example, postworkout or before now It has to be pretty minimal though, right? Because I mean, I remember meeting lots of jacked bodybuilders that were Pop and painkillers on the regular. I don't know if they were popping in since well They are all of them. I could invite you in. Vike it in is a blend of hydrocoating and aspirin or aspirin? Is there any of the workouts? No, so those are opiates.

I don't think they block the muscle building. Well, your vacuum has, could you give me the blend dug? It's hydrocoating and is it Advil or aspirin? I think it's a Cedar Manifin. That's it, yes, that's it. The Cedar Manifin is not an inset. So I don't know if that blocks the signal.

But nonetheless, also consider this, you're talking about bodybuilders probably have a loud, such a loud muscle building signal because of the hormones and stuff that they're on. Yeah. That whatever they're blending with painkillers is probably, it's not, it's going to get overridden in other words. So I mean, I also know a lot of people would take a lot of adveil and stuff like that. So I mean, it can't be that. Is it, you think it's that big of a difference? Iil and so on like that. So I mean, it can't be that. Is it, do you think it's that big of a difference? I think it depends on like how frequent the pattern is, right? So yeah, if it's in frequent, obviously he's not gonna do a whole lot, but yeah, so the studies, they would do it like before workouts,

every attempt, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, so yeah, hydrocodone and acetaminophenyl. Would you see the amount of muscle? So there's no, there's no incentive. So what's the that's the the pharmaceutical name of acetaminophen? What is that a generic name? Oh, that's

Yeah, so that's my So Tylenol doesn't do it. No, but Tylenol not great for the liver. Depliates the liver of glutathione. And on yeah, I just wanted to get clarity on that because I, you know, I heard general. I've heard you bring that study up before and talk about inseds. And I guess I was just under the impression

that that Tylenol fell under that category too. So Tylenol does not just add vill does. Yeah, so just to make it, just so I can create context, and ice bath after your workout will also block some of the muscle building signal. So anything that blunts or blocks inflammation will partially block the signal

that your body is sending that says, hey repair, build muscle. Now inflammation can also go at a whack and the other direction and obviously cause lots of problems. I think it's really about how often you use it. What depends your desire and outcome? What level of inflammation you're experiencing too, where you might it. What depends your desire and what level of inflammation you're experiencing too, where you might need to look

at your nutrition and everything else in terms of what's contributing to an excessive amount of inflammation. Yeah, look, if I'm training an athlete and we're in season, and it's important that they maintain their skill training, because we're in season. That's the priority. Now we're gonna, okay, and you wanna use some painkiller

so that you can move and you can continue to pitch and whatever. And then off season we're gonna figure out what the hell's wrong with your shoulder and fix it and go off the painkillers and do correctional exercise. That would be the approach. Yeah, your desire to outcome at that point

is to continue to play games, even though you've got this issue going, it's not to build muscle. Right, so. Now if you're somebody who is trying to build muscle, like say a body builder somebody who is trying to build muscle, say a body builder off-season trying to build muscle, not a good idea to probably be doing cold punches right after you get done with it. No, don't run the days after.

The days in which you do them in the morning, do them before. Not right after you send the muscle building signal by lifting really hard, and then you blunt that by jumping in cold punches. Now, here's the other thing, too. How much of the signal does it blunt? I don't remember what the study show, but it's not huge, I'm sure over time it can... It's just the volume.

It shows up, but let's look, I do a cold rinse in the morning before I come here. Now it's not the same as thing as a cold plunge, okay? But let's say I had access to a cold plunge. Oh, you do. Yeah, well, that was really happy of you. How you're about to. So let's say, okay, I like the fact that it wakes me up,

it energizes me, and I feel good during the day. And I'm willing to trade in a little bit of the muscle building signal for that. Yes, I am. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, and some people are so obsessed with the muscle, like when I was a kid, I thought any calorie burned

would be a calorie taken away from muscle growth and recovery. So I literally workout and then try to lay in bed or sit in the couch as much as I could just let the muscles grow Right what a stupid approach like I'm taking away the colon male life for what gaining in a half pound of muscle Which by the way actually doesn't work that way It's not common sense either because all we're getting you know in terms of like Marketing is the lower information by all means necessary because you're average person

Let's say they're experiencing some kind of chronic pain or they're eating inflammatory foods, and they're just in this constant state of inflammation where they haven't really dealt with their stress levels to that point, where maybe it's not as beneficial just adding more stress in the recovery side of it hasn't been at the forefront.

So this is one of those things where it's like, where are you in terms of your stress management, your inflammation levels and all that, and I have a different conversation with you, you know, coming from different points. But if you have pain and you're using pain killers, I mean, once a week or more every week, that's something you gotta look into.

Yeah, you gotta figure out what's going on. Why do I have to continue to use these pain killers on a regular basis? I know people who don't work out, I have family members who are older every day. Every day they take... It was prescribed to a lot of them. Yeah, a lot of people that have just chronic pain

and you go see your doctor, your 60-something years old. It's been even. I had high blood pressure and it was just like headaches all the time and I had to take some exccedrin or some adveil just to cope. And and you lost a hundred pounds got rid of that Why do you do is get rid of the Pake no, yeah, yeah, what was it a benign to tomb around your yeah Diagnosed and fixed and surgery and I wish we had like a fake obese picture of just

and surgery and non-bathlete. I wish we had like a fake obese picture of Justin. I bet everybody talks about his high blood pressure. I would have posed a picture of that, Courtney hates that we use. No, don't you guys. That's why he made it so quickly. I was like pushing it out and just like all sad. Let's bring that back.

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