Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1811: Signs You Are Overtraining, Avoiding Weight Gain When Scaling Back Training, Ways to Maintain Fitness As a New Parent & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: The THREE most important components of getting a GOOD PUMP: WATER, SALT, and CARBS. (2:51) Body by cheese! (6:24) The guy's favorite and least favorite classes in high school. (9:15) Making the case that the student loan system should be market-based. (16:16) Rambo couldn’t save her. (20:40) Dad life updates with the guys: Going out to dinner with children, manifesting good traits into your child, and showing love. (23:25) The benefits of collagen protein if you lift heavy. (29:36) Scientists claim to have learned the secret to successful flirting. (35:24) The value in taking NED’s hemp oil before your next mobility session. (42:18) Big Pharma is taking over your TV. (47:42) #ListenerLive question #1 - Any suggestions on workouts or a MAPS program that would be best while distressing? (51:11) #ListenerLive question #2 - Could overtraining be the main cause of not regaining lean body mass and progressing in my workouts? (1:00:14) #ListenerLive question #3 - How should I program my workouts to maintain my gains post-baby? (1:10:59) #ListenerLive question #4 - What can I do to compensate for gaining body fat, for my less demanding job? (1:21:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP15 at checkout for 15% discount** Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! May Promotion: MAPS Starter Bundle and MAPS Spilt 50% off! **Promo code MAYSPECIAL at checkout** The Pump: Ego Booster or Muscle Builder? - Mind Pump Blog Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Chocolate milk for recovery from exercise: a systematic review and meta-analysis of controlled clinical trials RAW FARM usa All-In Podcast E78: VC fund metrics that matter, private market update, recession, student loans, Bill Hwang arrest Watch Rambo: Last Blood | Netflix Kyoto Palace - Japanese Steakhouse Lift Heavy? Then You Need This Cheap Protein This kind of flirting works best Working out with weed RIDICULOUS Drug Ad Gives New Meaning To “Bent Carrot" Mind Pump #1780: Why Blood Tests Are Overrated With Dr. Stephen Cabral MAPS Fitness Anabolic MAPS Fitness Performance MP Hormones Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum Mind Pump #1142: Nine Signs You Are Overtraining MAPS Symmetry Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral)  Instagram

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Here they are, ready? Water, salt, and carbs. Everything else, largely a waste of time. Those three things are the most important. Do you know when I pieced this together, like, um, it was actually not, not that long ago. Same. I'm serious. I'm not. No, it wasn't that long ago was getting ready for, you know, when I was just starting train to get

ready to get step into competing, right? And I was, uh, I was obviously tracking him and it pinnows. So I had never tracked that diligently before and really started to figure out like holy crap when I like strategically drink a half a gallon of water load 60 to 90 grams of carbohydrates before throw like before this was before I went to eat throw a little bit of salt in my water. So boy that huge. I mean better I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.

I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. And it's not that those things don't work. Those things work too.

I mean, they have some value to it, but boy, it says you can come close to it. No, it's like what you just said. Yeah, it's like 5% of the impact of just drinking. Be nice and hydrated. Oh, yeah. It's salt, it's a part of it. It's salt, yeah. So make sure you have enough sodium, especially if you're an athlete or you train a lot

and you sweat a lot. You need more sodium then. And you don't need a lot of processed food, right? You need more sodium than you think. Water and carbs, like do those things, either, because I work out first thing in the morning, so if I do those the night before, and in the morning, I'll make sure I have like two big glasses

of water, at least an hour and a half before my workout, and then I'll have element T during the workout, which has got enough sodium. It's like night and day. The pump is like night and day just from those things. And I could take out all the other pump-inducing supplements and blood flow enhancers and all that, blah, blah, blah. Like if I don't have enough water, sodium, and carbs

in my system, it doesn't matter. And that doesn't cost you money extra money. That's what's meant to me. Oh, it does it. It's simple. It makes a huge difference. And then people, okay, well, is the pump important? Yeah, the pump does contribute to,

oh, there's a couple of things. One, it contributes to the feel of the workout. So if you're trying to develop a muscle and feel it and squeeze it, it's easier to do that when you have a good pump in the muscle. So that's, there's one right there. And I think that's, that can't be overstated. And then there is a muscle building signal

that comes from the pump itself. And this is a little bit debated, but I would think that, I would say that most bodybuilders would agree that the pump itself does induce some muscle growth. Nonetheless, even if it didn't, the feel of it alone, the improvement and the quality of your workout and your ability to connect to the target muscle, that alone makes a pump worth it. It reminds me of that chocolate milk study a bit. Oh, yeah. You know, it's like you want the most perfect protein powder and the shake and everything and then they literally did a study with chocolate milk and found like a very similar result.

It was the same. It was just drinking. Yeah, that was one of the first studies I shared when I turned Instagram on because I thought that was such a funny one. I thought that was so interesting. Yeah. Like all these crazy formulas that we make and we sell for, you know, $40 a jug. It's like, has some chocolate milk

Throw that into the the bro forum, you know, I watch your heads explode milk thrown some Nestle quick and you're boo. Yeah done Workout recovery is we just skip over like yeah the meat and potatoes of what you really need to focus on a lot of times because the Subministries a marketing machine. Oh, dude, speaking of milk, if you can tolerate dairy, you wanna talk about one of the best bulking foods out there, whole milk. It is so effective. Body by cheese, dude. It is so effective.

Body by cheese. Body by cheese. Just. Okay, okay. That's my daddy's video series, dude. I'm not making fun of him because if we get a cheese sponsor at some point, yeah, I mean, you know, the cheese, you know, we get you know what? And I'm sure it's because you we just got we have some again

I should shout him out because they sent it over to us for the raw keeper. Yeah, the raw. Yeah, I took a bunch home Yeah, I'm sure that's good. Adjusted I know there. So we obviously have some listeners over that in that company. I don't know what's it? It's what's the name of the company is it just raw is that the name of the company? I don't know. I don't know. We gotta go find out's the name of the company? Is it just raw? Is that the name of the company? I don't know. We gotta go find out. Find out. I want to give a shout out. Yeah, yeah, we should give them some. Yeah, it's really good stuff. It just made me think of that. I'm pretty sure that it's I'm sure it's just it. I'm saying it to me. They're like, they can't have during no a raw milk raw like good raw whole milk tastes so much better than the pasteurized homogenized milk.

Oh yeah. You know, environments and nutrients, everything they strip out, you know. So, what is it? What's the brand there? Raw farm. Raw farm. Raw farm.

Okay, raw farm. Yeah, did you know that you can't, did you know that you can't feed calf, so calfs, right, baby cows, you can't feed them pasteurized homogenized milk. They actually fail to thrive. They have to have it in raw food. You need all those digestive enzymes

that they get rid of when you do that, right? Here's another fact, raw milk doesn't go bad. Raw milk just turns into what is it? Buttermilk, buttermilk, sour. Yes, regular milk goes sour and bad. Not when I say regular, the pasteurized homogenized stuff because they kill all the bacteria, including the good bacteria. So it just goes bad, whereas when I say regular, the pasteurized, the modernized stuff because they kill all the bacteria, including the good bacteria.

So it just goes bad, whereas real good raw milk from healthy cows, it doesn't go bad. It looks so different though, if you're not used to seeing it. It has like this blue and like, it's got a big yellow, yeah, blueish yellow. Oh, you got to shake the hell out of it too. And then when you like, so we would used to use like other milk containers and then fill it up.

Oh yeah, I forgot, you're like, you worked. Yeah, yeah. So then when you shake it up and you like, so we would use to use like other milk containers and then fill it up and like, oh yeah, I forgot, you're like, you worked, yeah. So, and when you shake it up and it like, it's so thick, it like sticks to the walls. Yeah, and it's like a drink right out of the teeth. Right. No, you didn't. Yeah, you squirt the teeth in your space. No, I just squirted in my coffee. Wow.

Yeah. Because I remember I used to remember I used to milk about four o'clock in the morning. So I'd show up with my black coffee and and then I'd just get straight from the teeth in the first, the first counting. That was delicious. I love it. I love stories like that, because you get so many spoiled ass kids now.

Adam, at 4 a.m., did you ride your bike? Did you just, like a couple miles? That's the bad story. Like I had a car most of the time to take me to work. It was, that was when my parents grounded me from my car. Yeah, that's not every day that I ride my bike. Whatever.

You drove at 4 a.m. before school. Yeah, you gotta dress it up though, like it was snowing. Yeah, it was like 20 hours. I mean, was it that crazy? What's crazy was the war zone? I didn't think it was actually crazy at all as a kid because so my senior year, I had enough units to graduate early. So instead of trying to like graduate early,

all I did was carve off a bunch of Time so I I took my first period off and my last period off So school started. Yes, so I could work more so school started later for me and then school ended early Which worked perfect for the milking schedule because you milk it four and four more. You're grades in high school Most of time I was I was on a roll so So I think I averaged though at the end, like if you took all four years under 30, but because I had some times where I fucked off for a little bit,

but I was, because for basketball you had to, well basketball you had to have over a 2.5, but my parents, the rule was play sports. I had to have a 30. So I always carried a 30. If I was in sports every once in a while, I'd slack off,

maybe get a couple of seasons, stuff like that, and then I get in trouble or grounded, and then I get them back up. What about you, Justin, did you get grades? Pretty similar, yeah, on a roll, and then it was my senior year. I think it was organic chemistry. Chemistry, yeah, and it was like,

I had my wisdom teeth removed, and I missed all these labs, and the guy had never let me complete the lab and make them up. And I got a D in that class and I was like, I remember just raging. You say that was chemistry? Yeah, chemistry is my only D. Really? Yeah.

So I, so he loved girls too, which was very obvious. I hate that. Yeah. You ever see those teachers that would do? He was kind of dirty. Yeah, man. I'll put them on blasts if you still like. Oh, he died. Yeah, you died. Did you kill him? Maybe You know, I remind my biggest memory of chemistry class

Which is court probably has to do with me getting a D then right is this was you remember when the you know it We used to they used to roll out the the TVs that were strapped to the, you know, right? That's usually a good time. Right. Well, it was, and then I found a universal remote. Oh, yeah. So I always look at James Chandler, she like that. So I'll turn it on cops.

Yeah, too. All I remember from chemistry was, what was that thing called an auger block? They're like, do not eat this. It will kill you. What? An auger block. Is that what it's called? It's like this little gel looking thing that you would use in experiments.

Maybe I'm making this up. Did I drink this up? Doug Lucas up. I don't know, but I never heard of that. I remember the teacher being like, never eat this. This will kill you, and I remember being like, you probably should eat anything really.

Maybe she tasted it. Let's sprinkle this and that guy's water. I hate that guy. No, that was the one I told you guys. Like, we had, did I just make that up? The experiment where you, I don't know.

Exchange like electricity, like everybody holds hands together, right, and then so of course, because me and my friends are crazy and stupid, like reduced it down to just me and my buddy, like holding this thing and then seeing how long we could go, we went long. And when I was done, it was like, it fried us. Like it was bad.

I found it. Auger, A-G-A-R is a jelly-like substance consisting of polysaccharides obtained from the cell walls of some species of red algae primarily from, and I don't know how to say that. I can't even remember that. I just remember, you know what I remember about it that trying to eat it, your teacher's saying no.

Now, he's like, don't put this in your mouth. I remember being like, that's a weird thing to like, we're seniors. We're not gonna put any of this on my mouth. What remember being like, that's a weird thing to like, we're seniors. We're not gonna put any of this in our mouth. What was your guys' favorite and least favorite class in high school? So, I, this funny because yesterday my son was like, yeah.

He telling me about these debates he's having in class. He goes to a great school, loves his teachers, he's super inspired sometimes. And I get jealous because I hate, I was so unmemorable. I hated school. Yeah. Not because it was bad, but it was boring and unmemorable.

No passion. It was dumb and I got probably a 3.0 or something and really that was just because I was sharp. So I could show up and pass the test if I need to and do my homework the pre-re before. It was like I tried. But my son really loved school and I'm so jealous. I had one teacher.

I had Mr. Curry, he was psychology. And I liked him because he let us... He let us... You had psychology in high school? I did. It was an elective. And I liked it because we sat in class and debated. And I got inspired, it felt like, you know, like, it was fun and he would pick these topics.

And then you had to argue one side of it and then you had to argue the other side of it, which really was fun for me. And I used to get up in the front of the class. I love psychology. I didn't get that to junior college. We didn't have psychology in our high school. What was your elective in high school?

I did ceramics. I did. You were in a cut, right? Well, you were also, when you were an athlete, you could take one of the periods as an elect. So I always had a electable. Yes, I like a gym elective always. Yeah, that's a good question.

I'm trying to remember all. I don't remember all my elective. My electives wasn't my favorite. The math was my favorite class. I like math. My electives were always revolving in like art stuff. Like so my favorite class forever was cartooning. That's a class. It was amazing, dude.

Cartoonie? Yes. Yeah, I drew a bunch of flip books and like a bunch of inappropriate art. Yeah, I know what you're teaching me. You're beautiful. Yeah, yeah. The helicopter.

Yeah. All that stuff, dude. That's my jam. Okay, so that was inappropriate art. Yeah, I know what you're teaching me. You're beautiful, yeah. The helicopter, yeah. All that stuff, dude, that's my jam. Okay, so that was your favorite. Yeah, and then, I mean, I didn't like math because after algebra, and it got into like, algebra two and all that, I was like, I'm done. Yeah. This is all theoretical nonsense.

So what was your least favorite? I hated math, but you know why? It's the hardest class to bullshit. So I used to bullshit all my classes. Which is, you my classes. That's my exact reason why I liked it. I liked it because there was like two plus two was always four. You can't just show up and be like, well, no, because I've just felt like it was so gray. No, this was literally my emmo. My emmo was whatever class I took, the teacher would typically give us the opportunity to do or the option, which no kid ever took. Nobody wants to do this.

You could either take the test or you could go up to the front of the class and present your whatever to the whole class. Nobody kid wants to do that. I loved it because I could go to the front of the class. And I could make, and the teacher was always like, I get a pause. In math, you can't do that.

It's a matter of answers in BS. If you miss a bunch of classes in math, you're screwed. Yeah, yeah, no, no. You even know how to do it or you know how to do it. Yeah, so I, I, which is why I liked it. I liked that. So, Doug, what about you? What was your, what was your least favorite?

What was your favorite? Least favorite was physics. I did not like physics. Even though it's got some practical applications, it was just hard. I liked physics. I liked physics. My favorite class was actually an essay class I took.

So I was lucky. I took an advanced class. The teacher was actually a doctor. He was like a professor. Essentially, this guy was very, very strict, but he helped me a lot with my writing. And he was brutal when it came to grading, but he demanded me a lot with my writing and he was brutal when it came to grading.

Oh, well. But he demanded a lot out of us. And so I really improved my writing a lot. So by the time I got to the university, I was actually, that's why you're the grammar knots, you had all of us. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He is.

Yeah. Yeah, interestingly, this guy had two different colored eyes. Oh, he was. His doctor gauge was his name. Wow. Yeah, two different colored eyes. Sounds like an X his name. Yeah, two different colored eyes. Sounds like an ex-man. Yeah, he was kind of, he was bald. He was very, very interesting guy,

but he taught me a lot. You know, speaking of, not a trans. Speaking of school and stuff, I really, it's funny, I was on the way here, I was listening to a podcast, they were talking about the student loan bubble and the issue or whatever.

And man, kids just don't understand debt. They don't understand value and they get into these, these loans because they've been sold this like an education means you're going to be successful no matter what you learn. And it's okay to take out all this debt. And so, you know, these guys were debating about the student loan bubble and what we're going to do about it. And obviously right now it's, uh, it's, uh's, it's employed to, to get votes, which is what they typically do right before some kind of election.

But if you want to fix that system, all you got to do, and this will totally fix it, is, is make it a completely market based loan system. That's it. Because then what happens is banks, they have to take the risk of the loan. And what they'll do to the student is they'll say, oh, you want a loan? What are you gonna study? Yeah. What are your grades?

And then they'll say, okay, you want a hard history, sorry, you can't take $100,000 Harvard loan for art history. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you know, liberal arts? Well, we're gonna give you a thousand bucks because that's about as much as you bill pays back. Oh, you wanna do, you know, medicine?

All right, a little bit more and you got your grades. Or, and that's the problem is that these loans are all federally backed So it's a bunch of free easy money. Of course school. I mean, imagine if they did this with cars, imagine if car loans We're guaranteed by the federal government. There would nobody would be driving a Honda Everybody would be driving BMWs and Mercedes because be a bunch of free money So you have all these kids now, all of these degrees that are worthless and if they're like I can't pay back my loan Well, yeah, you got a degree and something that's not valuable on the market.

And especially today, you want to learn something that's not valuable. You don't need to get a loan or go learn it. You can learn it on YouTube. And in their defense, you're at an age, I mean, what did you know at 17 years old, especially related and stuff like that? So there's no education around it.

Listen, you're 18, first of all, most of them get at 18. 18 years old, you're old enough to go to war, you're old enough to go to strip club and you're 18, first of all, most of them get at 18. 18 years old, you're old enough to go to war, you're old enough to go to a strip club, and you're old enough to vote. So unless we change all those laws, you're old enough to take on the responsibility of a lot. Or you can't vote. You can't take it on the notebook.

You are, but then there's no, there's no teach, and I'm not, by the way, I'm not defending it all. I do not believe in the bailing all them out, but I mean, in their defense that there was no, there's no communication around that. What you're explaining right now is like, there's, there's none of that. It's just what it, what is communicated to kids that are, you know, it's well, any degree has worked well.

Yeah. It's how important having to agree is in all this, all the stats around how much more money you potentially make by having to agree. So there's this massive push in that direction, but not a lot of conversation around the things that you're saying right now. And so in their defense, I mean, I did a lot of stupid stuff as a teenage kid. When you're a teenage kid, getting, taking a loan out to go get a four year degree, you don't think is potentially a stupid thing. You think that's probably making a smart decision. Like I'm thinking about my future. And that's why, and that's why the market, it needs to have no government interference

because the market will figure that out. You're a kid, you're right. You might be like, well, I want money. Well, then the bank's going to say, sorry, I mean, what you want to learn is you're not going to be able to pay us back. So we can't give you this loan. If you learn something else and you show us your grades or whatever, then we can maybe do some kind of like, you know, salary sharing or whatever market will figure it out. But what we did is we guaranteed these loans, which of course, because know, salary sharing or whatever, market will figure it out, but what we did is we guaranteed these loans. Which of course, because the the steward incentivized the deal,

because it's protected. So of course, of course, are going. Oh, it's great. This conversation, how my son, because obviously he's a junior, he gets good grades, wants to go to college. And we sit, I sit down with him, and I say, depending on what you want to learn

and where you're going to go to school, we're going to figure out the market viability. And whether or not debt will be worth it or not, because you're an adult, you have to make these decisions. Dad's not gonna sit here and pay for everything, just because you wanna have a college experience, we have to figure this out and say, because that is a valuable lesson,

but otherwise you graduate and you're like, oh, I don't know how to figure this out and you end up doing all kinds of crazy stuff with money and debt. So, very important lesson to learn, I think. Yeah, I think there's just hasn't been that conversation enough of like, this needs to go somewhere.

It's not just you get to go to college, have the experience and all that. This is preparing you for the real world. And like, are you thinking in that direction about like your next steps from there, not just like holding time? Was it the all-in podcast? You're listening to this?

Is that what you did? Did you finish that? Almost. Did you get to the part where he talks about what his prediction of what? No, that's for Ziann, isn't it? Yeah, it's it. Okay, such a good, I mean such a good episode.

Yeah, I know. I've had to break it up just because I've been so busy, but really, really good. Actually, I did want to tell you guys. Remember how I told you guys I found the last Rambo? On Netflix. Yes. Oh, okay, dude.

This is the brand new version, because I don't hear like, like, first blood or last blood. This is last blood. Okay, okay. It's the last blood. It's last. Okay. They went way too far.

Like way too far. In what direction? What do you mean? Bro, it's like, oh, I had, I turned it off. So, I'll go wait. Cause you're always gory. So when you told us before it you hadn't finished it yet No, I had only 30 minutes in oh and I'm the one that sound at that hard well because it's got you're such a sucker

I'm a huge fan of such a sucker this guy's 30 minutes in semi huge fan of surveillance what I was selling was that he was like The way he looks at 70 whatever years old right that'll now. Oh, I mean, that's the truth. Hey, listen, like some shitty ass movies. I don't know. Don't even say, we'll put this to a vote. Well, anyway, listen, they go too far. So I'm here to spoiler alert if you're planning to watch it, which I don't recommend. His niece, who he ends up raising,

so it's kind of like his daughter, she gets kidnapped by this Mexican cartel or cartel that gets girls. So this is where it starts to get in traffic. Bro, it goes so far, bro. They kidnap her, then they drug her. And in this, she's getting raped and the guy cuts her face. And I'm watching this and I'm like, bro, this is going, this is going to hurt my heart. She's like, bro, she gets killed.

She eventually dies and then Rambo goes apeshit and decapitates people. Like so. Wow. I'm like, oh, I can't get over the fact that she got killed. He's a part of those, right? Not just the acting portion, but he helps write them, right?

Or he helps produce them? I think so. Yeah, so he has a lot of... It just goes so far. Then he sets up like these crazy booby traps to get the cartel to come after him And the way he kills everybody is just so it's crazy Like

Dicks through the brain like just crazy It but it made me sad cuz he died dude. I was like I have kids. Yeah, I couldn't watch that part I had to turn it off man. We couldn't save her Yeah, so that's not the way to end the series. Don't watch it. The first blood is great. First blood's good. That's a great one. So how many total are there now? How many of them does that?

I have no idea, at least four or five. Maybe. Maybe more. Remember the one, remember the one that jumped the shark where he was, I don't remember where he was. He was in some kind of... Afghanistan maybe. Yes.

I think it was Afghanistan where he shoots an arrow at a helicopter blows it up. It's got a, it's got a, a great, an arm or someplace. Yeah, see that reminds me of the hot shots. Yeah, I get those mixed up all time now because it's that actually happened in a Rambo. He shot a helicopter. He's like standing on the top of a cliff and like one of those like bad ass helicopters. I think they're making I think they're like a chicken. They're like shooting and it blows up the helicopter dude. Oh, there is. Anyway, all right. So I'll take a fun turn here.

Last night I had dinner at, you guys ever go to those, what do they call, tip and yaki? Is that what it's called in Japan? Where they cook food on the huge, like metal plate or whatever. Like any hot, right? So there's one over here called Kyoto Palace, a lot of fun.

We hadn't been there in a while and haven't taken a railiest ever there. And he's at the age now. I don't know if in a while and haven't taken a ralias ever there. And he's at the age now, I don't know if Max is like this, where going out to eat is just not worth it because after about five minutes, he doesn't want to sit still, you gotta occupy him and say, oh, why do we do this?

We should just stay at home. Well, I'm like, maybe this will be different, right? And he was so enthralled. He's watching the dude like flip the food and cut to whatever and I'm like, this is what we're coming from dinner because we actually get to sit down for 40 minutes. He's entertainment for dude like flip the food and cut to whatever and I'm like this is what we're coming from dinner We actually get to sit down for 40 minutes entertainment for him. Yeah, dude So it was it was a lot of fun. We were you know, we were really lucky with that actually early so far not come wood right because

Everybody told me that like like an angel child Yeah, well, you know, I mean we'll see because there's you know, it's still early right but I like to think that we actually had a really cool moment see because there's, you know, it's still early, right? But I like to think that we actually had a really cool moment. Yesterday Katrina, she took, she took him to school. He hasn't been because he was sick for like the last week, right? So anytime that he's taking a break from the, his routine, it's always a little, there's like a little bit of nervousness around us. I was like, oh, let's see. He's been out of his room. Let's see if he's going to be okay. And she said she was so happy because he like, he jumped out of the car and like, went straight running and running into class. And I guess it was so happy because he jumped out of the car and went straight running into class.

And I guess it's like a two story place. And one of the teachers from above saw him come out and she came out and then ran downstairs and Maximus and got down and he comes running up and gives her a big ol hug. And she's like, oh, so sweet. She goes, oh, I love him. She goes, he's not even in my class,

but I come down here whenever I see him. So that because he's such a lover. But you feel so proud. Oh, yeah. She's like, he's such a lover and he plays so good and stuff like that. And I'm like, ah, it's cool. Because I want to believe, right? You don't want to have the territory.

Well, and you also want to believe that the little things that Katrina and I are trying to be mindful of are starting to pay off or that will manifest into your child, right? Like, you never know, because you always hear those stories, right? Parents, they're like great parents, and then they had this fucking terrible kid, right? They're just really like this.

I know it scares the shit out of me. It does, it worries me, because people say that, like, oh, you could do all you want, trying to do all these things, and you never know what you're gonna get, right? Or whatever. So, of course, that's always in the back of your mind, but you're doing all these little things,

trying to put in routines and habits. And, you know, we're very careful the way we communicate around him. We're like, you guys were very, very touchy feeling. So it's a lot of love. A lot of like, he's never hurt Katrina and I yell. He's none of that stuff, right? So I want to believe that's going to turn this kid into this like, like, very calm and chill and loving type of.

I think it's going to have a huge impact for sure. I've, have you guys ever watched, if you ever wanna get, just scared, watch intervention. You ever watch intervention? Oh my God. I hate that shit. Oh, it's so terrible. It's like, they'll have,

it's about somebody who's really struggling with addiction. Like terrible, like either heroin or, is depressing or alcohol is, or something, right? And it's just and these and you can see these people are just they're just terribly the homeless or they're going to kill themselves and then the family organizes an intervention to try to save their life but a part of the show is they go back and show family photos and videos of them when they were kids and they're just these happy little kids and and it's like it's always like one thing. Like that's what breaks you.

You're just like, oh God, how'd they turn into this? And it's always one thing like, oh, and then my dad died or my sibling died or mom and dad got divorced or something like that, like one thing. And then they got on this path of, it scares the crap out of me. Like I watched that and I'm like, oh my God, I couldn't, like what would I do if that was, you know, if that was my kid, don't watch that.

Yeah. I think every parent probably thinks about this, right? At least if you're a parent that cares and you're trying and you're trying to like create this like, you know, and by no means am I trying to put my son in a bubble or overprotect him and things like that, but just give him a house full of love, be very cautious of the conversations

and the way we are around each other and in front of him like, you know, so yeah, the studies that I've read and I'm by no means an expert on this, but the studies I've read show that high love and discipline. So love and discipline, disciplining structure, when those two are present, you have the best outcomes. When you have a lot of love and not any discipline, you still get generally good outcomes, but it's not, it's a lot more rocky. When you have a lot of discipline with no love,

you get some really bad outcomes. So these are the households with no love, but mom and dad are like, or dad is just super authoritarian. Yes, then you get really bad outcome. Yes, funny. So, you know, one of the structures or discipline was like, you know, when it's bedtime, it's bedtime,

we don't mess around and Katrina's like putting him down as she goes, you know, he's getting to this place where he's smart too, where he's starting to learn how to work mom and dad really well. And he knows that mom is just a sucker for the love and some of that. And he was getting up and down with her. Like she's supposed to be putting them down and you know that normally only takes

a 10 minutes at best. And sometimes she'd be in there for like 30 minutes or so. And she comes down afterwards and I'm like, Hey, was it okay? What happened? She's like, little shit, man. He just kept getting up and down and like not listening to me. And I'm telling him it's Max. It's bedtime. Max is bedtime. You know this. And then she goes, finally, I like use my stern like, Maximus, it's time for bed now. And he comes over and he walks over to her, or quite crawls over to him, like, mommy and then hugs her.

He's like, little shit, you know what I'm saying? Just as I start to get a little frustrated with him stuff like that, he just melted, you know. I told you guys when I figured that out as a kid, I was my mom, as she'd get really mad, and she's got four kids, we're all crazy, whatever, and this old school of time mom, she had the wooden spoon, the whole deal.

And I got, when I got old enough to like, restrain her, I would hug her, and she would get so mad, but then I kiss her, and after about 30 seconds, no matter how mad she was, she couldn't be mad anymore. So I would do this, and then she would tell me, like later on, like don't do that anymore to me, like all right mom, but what I would do is, she she would tell me, like later on, like, don't do that anymore to me. Like, all right, mom, but what I would do is,

she'd get mad at a holder and she'd get so pissed off and then, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, know that when your protein intake is really high, the protein sources don't matter as much, right? So if you're eating one gram of protein per pound of body weight, whether your protein is coming from plant or animal or what kind of animal, it doesn't make that big of a difference. But when your protein intake is lower, then the ideal, like, ideal high amount then it actually starts to make a difference. And the reason why I'm communicating this is because of all the people I ever trained and worked with, let me ask you guys, what percentage of the people you ever worked with

actually ate the upper limit or the limit of protein? Less than 20%. Yes, really slow. So I'm talking to most people right now. So because I know we always say high protein, then it doesn't matter so much, but most people aren't going to hit those targets. So then the protein sources start to matter. Collagen protein, I read in this study, I'm going to read to you guys kind of some of what

they found in this particular study. So, when they did this with the lifters, and they gave them collagen protein as a supplement. What they found in this is they saw a significant increase in fat free mass compared with the placebo group. So in other words, they had more lean body mass as a result. But the kind of lean body mass that they built was known as this integrative building material known as extracellular matrix material, ECM. So ECM coats skeletal muscle and it accounts for one to 10% of muscle mass.

And at first they thought it was a separate structure that provides mechanical support for forced transmission, but now they find that actually what it is is that muscle cells attach to and connect with the ECM and it provides a permissive environment for the development of muscle. So in other words, increasing ECM improves the general muscle building environment. And collagen protein does this specifically more than other kinds of protein. So it provides the very specific type of nutrients for it to theoster. Well, it's the glycine and proline and other amino acids that are high in collagen.

Can I say something that are not high in the other types? Yes. That sounds like a bunch of bullshit. No, it's what we mean. It just sounds like such a leap. Like it sounds so crazy to me. No, well, and I mean, they, they found it in the study. They actually did muscle biopsies and saw that this is what it did. And I'm assuming they compared it then to weigh another sort other sources of protein. Yes. And so it's a, it's a unique

effect that you get from collagen, which is very interesting. So I know a lot of times we hear that collagen may be inferior to way. It's different. It used to throw it away. It's different. I know. It used to be trash. I know.

That's the funny part to me. And that's why I have such a hard time jumping on the collagen bandwagon. It's because it's for a year, for decades, that part of it, they just throw away. Well, so I've experimented with it because I, dairy protein messes me up. I can have plant protein, but if my gut is off, even a lot of plant proteins sometimes, college, like bone broth protein never messes,

that's the most easy digestible protein. Like Paleo Valley has this bone broth protein that has no flavor, no color, nothing. Literally, it's bone broth. Yeah, I use that every time. And that and the organ complex, yeah, just because, you know, the nutrients, separate nutrients.

And I think there is something to, you know, different types of nutrient sources, like it. Yep. So again, like it's probably at this point, like it's hard to define, but like if you see a study, like, that's interesting that this point, it's hard to define, but if you see a study, that's interesting that it provides that unique material for your body to have that kind of tissue. Yeah, so I mean, I use it a lot because it's so easy to digest. And if I'm missing my protein targets, and I'm already, except for me, I'd have to eat

about 200 grams of protein, a lot of protein. And let's say I miss it by like 60 grams, which often happens, 60 or 70 grams, 60 to 70 grams of protein powder can sometimes mess me up. But the bone broth protein doesn't. It's like water. I could drink 100 grams of that and it won't bother me. So oftentimes I'll use it. And I do notice interesting effects from it, but mainly I notice nails and skin, but this was an interesting study because I was doing more reading. nails and skin, but this was an interesting study because I was doing more reading. I'm like, you know, I wonder if there's a unique benefit to it aside from the skin and nails and hair thing that we always hear. And it

was this one. It's always beauty where they really like market and push. Yeah. So it creates essentially it contributes to this the ECM, which contributes to the environment to encourage muscle growth. So indirectly, it's got this muscle building signaling process, which is kind of... The selling point for me, or the only reason why you'd ever catch me even use it is because

the point you made about the digestibility. Well, that, and it's like tasteless. So it mixes really, if you're trying to add it to something and you don't want, because sometimes you're making something and you have a vanilla or a chocolate flavor protein powder, whether it doesn't matter if it's vegan or it's way, and you add it in, and it just changes the taste, the texture of that, but it's so like,

there's nothing in it. And it's so refined, it's like even different, the way it's not as powdery and sticky. Like chalky. Yeah, and so it mixes really well into some stuff to where you can't taste the flavor of it. So if I were to use it, it would be something for those reasons.

Yeah, a little hack too. I'll take it and I'll put like 50, 60 grams and then I'll throw in some sillium husk, like really finely ground powder. So it adds the fiber and it's like fiber and protein. And it's like the best, it's literally, aside from certain foods, it's the easiest digestible thing. Like for me, and I have like, you guys know this,

I have issues with gut health sometimes. If I drink that, it's like, like miracle grow from my gut. It's easy, it's really easy. So it works, you know, really well. Nice. Anyway, more studies. Read a study on flirting, it's just kind of cool. What? Oh, random know, really well. Anyway, more studies. Yeah. Read a study on flirting, which is kind of cool. Oh, random, right?

Cool. They were talking about flirting techniques that actually work and universal flirting techniques. And they found there was one with men that was effective across the board. And then there was one with women that was effective across the board. Oh, really? You guys want to guess what they are? And they're connected somehow. They're actually kind of interesting. So what do you think of flirting technique?

If you're a guy and you want to flirt with a girl and you wanna have a high chance of success that she's gonna receive it positively, what do you do? Complement, I curse. Or smile her hair. Or what smile or hair? Yeah, it's the compliments.

I mean, that's easy. So that close, that was I think second or third. Yeah, okay. And I once I say you guys are going to be like duh, make them laugh. Oh, yeah. So it's so because that's actually the like the number one attribute that women would say like sense of humor. Yes, that's a humor, right?

Yeah, and it's funny because if you're watching your girl talk to a guy and you know, she's smiling, you might be like, I don't know if I'm a little insecure. He starts laughing. She starts laughing, that's where I come here honey. Yeah. We gotta go out here real quick. You know what I'm saying? He's so funny.

Alright, let's go. We gotta go. Yeah, we gotta go. He's not that funny. He's not that funny. No, he's not funny. Anyway, that's what you're saying to me. Probably the most.

What if you know someone makes your wife laugh? Yes. And it's like, that wasn't funny. What are you laughing at that? You know, it's like a courtesy laugh. You know, I'm seeing you calm down with that a little bit. You give him a lot of false confidence. You know what I mean?

I got to kind of coach your old man. So to that point, I actually think that's like one of the biggest dead giveaways though like when a girl does like a guy. Like so if it's a girlfriend to mine or something like that. And I see the way she's like laughing at everything he says. And then the hand on the shoulder. She's so into it. That wasn't even funny at all.

She was like, you just hit the next head. That's the universal flirting technique from women that works, which is to laugh at the guys, Joe. We're 10, seven, a big. How funny is that? Yeah, so the guy make them laugh, that's like, it's so obvious that you can't say it. And the girls say it.

And now you say it, like, you, you, everyone has been in a situation where you experience that. Totally. And again, like, I mean, we're in our 40s. I think when you're in your 20s, the guy, you don't have to read signals as well. Yeah.

Maybe instinctually a little bit, but as you get older, you're really, it's like obvious. Yeah, do my girls laugh and add some dude, thinks he's hilarious. I'm like, wait a minute. Disformize him. So we were at like a back to school night or whatever and going around and ever it was introduced to us to his Friends and we're meeting like parents and whatnot and there's this one lady like like God bless her like she was trying

But like was like really socially awkward, I guess but like Somebody would say something and she would laugh like hysterically and we're in me and Corey were like, uh, like, it wasn't that funny. And she just like, we keep going. Like, anyway, I'm like trying to find, I saw everyone. I'm like, oh, I gotta go, I gotta go check out the classroom and I found a way to like escape. But it was just like one of those weird things where you're like, ah, like I don't know, there might be something wrong with you.

Would you have any other stuff? You're saying or somebody else I would say. Somebody else was saying like there's a couple of us together and like somebody said something, was, you know, everybody there was just kind of like, hey, yeah. Oh, that's, you know, you can go south. You know, one of the, yeah.

What do you think that, so okay, you know, I'll always love to hear your opinion because you always love to tie everything back to evolution. So, what do you think is the evolutionary reasons for women being so attracted to sense of humor? So, the prevailing theory around that is that a man who has a really, you know, quote unquote, good sense of humor and makes people laugh,

probably has a high status in the tribe. So, if you have that kind of charisma where people like to laugh at what you're saying, and listen to what you're saying, you probably have high status, therefore you can provide more security and more safety and that kind of stuff. So I've read stuff on similar to that where women will proceed. Women will perceive another man significantly more attractive of if other women are with him or like him. That's true. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.

So if you're a taken dude or there's women that are like. Because there's something about you, why do all these women like you? There must be some kind of... Automatically, she may have looked at you and been like, oh, he's like a six. But then because you got these girls that are around, you tell you, like, you're an eight now. You know they've done studies on that? Yeah.

No, I've read, that's what... That reminds me of like, so we used to go when I was single We would we would take some of our girlfriends that were just completely platonic, but like we're good looking Mm-hmm, and you'd go in with like two girls that were really good looking and then you'd like sort of disperse and Then that was like so easy. Yep. That's Katrina and Everett's relationship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so you know They worked together and then yeah, she was like yeah, and that's why they became so tight was after, like, I mean, started in high school because they go all the way back to even like elementary school, but, you know, she, he would take her all the time because she was the wingman. Well, when, so when my oldest, your best wingman's a girl.

When my oldest was, so he's 16 now. So when he was just a little guy, a year or two old, he's got two one goals that, you know, so my brother and my, you know, my brother-in-law, they were, they're younger than me. So they were like in their early 20s, when he was born, I think early 20s late teens, and they would, and they're good, great guys, great uncles or whatever, but they'd taken to the park. And they'd come back and my brother would be like, well, my brother and a lot, both of them would say this to be like, dude, And they come back and my brother would be like, or my brother, both of them will say this to be like, dude, taking a baby for a walk in the park.

I've never had so many girls talk to me before. They're like, this is the best way to be good. That are a puppy, right? Yeah, that's exactly. Did that show up on that at all? Yeah. And bring it up, okay. Cause that's like a total, like, dude.

Oh, you're a lock. You got a puppy and you tell jokes? Oh my God. We know what you're doing. This is your guy walking by and like, and your guy has a puppy and you're not the beach. Yeah, you're fishing. Oh you need an instrument playing instrument Oh my god, how to saxophone man Don't be gonna flute that's annoying and call it This guy's would be out like trying to woo all the girls that their stupid Dave Matthews like

Songs and their guitars. I just I wanted to go full animal house and just take and smash them over their head. Jesus. Wow. Wow. Just some dumb, down-tidy beard. I'm just saying, dude, like, don't push them at them. Like, bro, like, it's so, like, corny and obnoxious.

Yeah. Stop because you know what they're doing. Yeah, but it's, again, it's just, it makes my skin crawl, dude. Yeah. It's like those guys that are like, and there's some people that I really like this, but you've never seen those guys,

and it's like, I just really value and respect women. And I really, you know, this, I really think we should fight for, that's like, all right, dude. Like, I can't, you couldn't pick up the heartcore. The heartcore, feminist, dude. Yeah, but, you know, like, overdoing it, you know, like, yeah, okay, bro, like you found an angle because, yeah, you couldn't find, the hard core. The hardest feminist dude. Yeah, but you know, like overdoing it. You know, like, okay, bro, like you found an angle

because you couldn't find the other angles didn't work because you're not alpha-mouse. And I have to do this, this angle over here. Yeah, like come on, guys watching know what I'm talking about. You know, you know, everyone's had that friend for sure. Yeah, whatever you say. So you guys remember that study I talked about where they did a bit, a huge survey on people

who use cannabis to work out. Yeah. And the reason why it was such a cool study was because none of the people believed it made them stronger or faster, which is true. Studies will show that, but they all thought it improved the psychological effect and the connection to the workout, right? Which I thought, that's fascinating, actually kind of makes a lot of sense. So you can get, and it is, it's not cannabis,

but Ned is our hemp oil, but it's really, you feel it when you take it. So this is why we work with them. I've tried other CBD, you take it. It's like did I take anything? Ned, you actually feel, so I've actually done this where I take the Ned before a stretching slash mobility session because those sessions require for me at least

more calm connection relaxation. It's not like when I lift where I have caffeine and I'm angry, I can't do that when I do mobility and stretching, so I tried it. I took it about an hour and 20 minutes before. I was just gonna ask you how long, is it? About an hour, hour and 20 minutes before. Oh, that long, huh?

And I took a decent dose of the hemp oil, so he's a strong one, and the best stretching mobility set, best like that was 1500 one is potent That's a good idea because the psychoactive version of that is like I Mean yeah, I I'd like it It's but it wouldn't be something I'd want to repeat all the time something like that

If I know I'm having like a nice calm like kind of restorative day to do a Ned Drops would be a way better. It's so hard to get me to do an hour of mobility and stretching. It's just, it's 15, 20 minutes and I'm like, it's hard to get you to just sit in a meeting for five minutes. That's true. So, drops of Ned.

I know. I've got to a point now where I actually have, you know what, I've recorded him sleeping in these meetings so much that I'm not gonna do anything or I'm just like, it's a problem, dude. I feel bad about it. You guys make fun of me all the time. But no, I did it.

I took it and I got, obviously, you know, you've guys have taken that. You feel really chill and kind of relaxed. And a little bit. A little bit of euphoria. And then I would get into a stretch that normally is just, it's hard to tolerate. And I'd just, oh man, I'm just doing it.

And then connecting to certain mobility positions, I can't cut for rotation or combat stretch, 90, 90. and then connecting to certain mobility positions, like handcuffs or rotation, or combat stretch, 90, 90, like I was able to really get into the right position and have the kind of the calm, you know, can you do that? I was thinking about cannabis in general, I just feel like you pay attention more

to like the little details of everything. And like, you just kind of just slows down and you're just like, ooh, like you kind of fill your way through everything. Anyone paying attention to that market right now, it's been a while since I looked at the business side of it. There's a lot of controversy right now with the California market because obviously the promise was,

if we legalize it, we'll get rid of the black market, but that hasn't happened. And the critique, which is justified and I agree with, is that the taxes are so high that they make the black market a very viable market. So I think what we're dealing with now is they're looking at it going, do we lower the taxes on this? Because we haven't solved the black market issue because it's such a disparity between

the two that there's a lot of these dispensaries putting the good stuff out the back because they make so much more and they don't have to pay like ridiculous taxes. I remember with the number before they showed. It was insane. How much did you get hit multiple times? So there's an additional tax beside your regular sales tax and state tax that you pay. There's like a third tax that you pay with with marijuana. And I remember when we would get hit with it was like when you total it all up, it's like, oh my god, there's no margins in this. And so, and then what ends up happening is a lot of these clubs, they get savvy, and they do these price wars where they drop it down.

And I remember, I vividly remember sitting down like doing the math, going like, this can't be possible. Like there's no way they're getting this for that price. Like I know these growers, I know what it's costing them to get this, how can they sell it this right? Well, they use it to get traffic into their place and then they're back thoring stuff because that's where they're making all their real money. So they use that just to build their network.

Right. I mean, in their defense, smart, personal, smart business, you know what I'm saying? If you put business people in a market, their job, their goal is to figure out how to work within the rules of the market. Right. And what you have in that. I that is to drop it in that restraint. Yeah. So, and if you create the incentives, they're so strong, I mean, it's inevitable some people

are going to do that. The black market exists because the market can't compete with it. But if the market out competes the black market, it doesn't exist. For example, and it doesn't even have to out compete it. It just needs to rival it enough to where it doesn't make sense. That's what I mean. It just needs to rival it enough where it's like, am I really going to take the risk of selling this on the street for an actual buck? I'll give you an example, Buck. We're old enough to remember when people were getting

music for free, streaming it online. Everybody was getting free music online. Then Apple came out with this service for $0.99, you could get a song. So it still wasn't free, but what you got was clean song, there was no viruses on it, sounded good, and people still get free music, but that market is shrunk considerably. And you've got this huge now market where they can actually make it.

And then the next phase, that was a Spotify, who then offers a service for free that has commercials, or for $7.99 or $9.99, whatever their service is, and then you have access to incredibly. Incredible. They were forced to compete with that black market and they did. They did it effectively but if you tax something so high that the cost of the product now is double, which is actually what these taxes do, they double the price. The black market now is still viable, right? Meanwhile, a big farmer is getting at a control, man. I have to talk about like the commercials

were being blasted with all the time now. And like just, I was in the hotel room with my kids. And we were just watching like a regular show. It wasn't even like on FX or something. You know, that's like, you know, adult driven kind of content. And, you know, first of all, we get like some pill for for people's sexual behaviors and increasing that whatever. And I'm trying to mute it at least, but then one came up for bent dick pill.

What? Yeah. So they show this carrot that's bent and they're associating it and then we start dying. There's a pill for a bent dick. Yes. Yes. That's a genetic thing. ZEA flex or something.

Yeah. I had it written down there because I was like, dude, Doug, look at this. They were, they were talking about like being able to have a more firm erection and whatever and like not have this like, I know you crazy bent. I know you can break it and there and is something called prep, prep, I don't know how to say, but it's where you can break it. And there is something called prepperism. I don't know how to say it, but where you can damage,

because there's a natural curve to a lot of people or whatever, but this must be treating when people like damage it. And I've got no idea, but it was like a right way. Why are we getting like an ad for this? Like you know that like the U.S. is like the only countries in the world

that allows pharmaceutical companies to advertise advertising. Is that true? Yeah. One of the only. Well, I didn't know that. We don't need any of this stuff to be advertised. You know, it's a joke about it. First of all, it makes people more self conscious. So it's like, do you have the following symptoms? Sadness, boredom tired. Oh, yeah. That's me. Yeah. Well, for the fiery diet. I'll reduce the bend. Wow. Oh, that's a new one for the Periodons disease.

Periodons disease. That's a thing. Yeah, so you know what's gonna happen? A lot of guys with a naturally curved penis, which by the way, someone, yeah, is there an advantage? Yeah, I'm gonna get self-conscious. I'm gonna get self-conscious.

I'm dumb to that was normal. Yeah. Yeah. Don't judge my character. We call him an anisindra. Yeah. Yeah. Don't judge my current. We call it banana syndrome. Yeah. Doug hits it sideways. That's what he's gonna do.

He's like, no shit. You can fix that, huh? Yeah. If it's fix your bent dick. Wow. It's a thing now. And you ever hear these commercials when they talk about the possible side effects

and clear about it. Wait a minute. Do you see like bleeding ass like what the hell? Fix this one problem. We get 62 other problems. Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. But there is a real disease though that can cause

some pretty excessive curvature. I didn't realize it was that big of a problem when they put a commercial on TV though. Yeah, no, I didn't mean that. Or was it on the inner? In the middle by surprise, literally on TV, dude. It probably isn't that big of a problem, but there's enough people that have a little bit

of a hook in their dick to think that now that they might have to get this down. So that's probably what's going on. Yeah. And from what I've read, a little bit of a curvature is a good thing. That's what I've heard. That's the rumor. That's what I've read.

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week. So it was really cool hearing him evaluate your guys' So mine showed that I have a high level of stress, so my calcium magnesium was off the chart's high. And it showed that I was in a more of a catabolic state. And they fed the term, I'm more in like the exhaustive stage. So Adrenals and thyroid aren't the best right now. And so I was kind of wanting your guys' advice of workouts or things to do to support what I'm at while I'm trying to get more testing done. Are you still running five days a week? This week I stopped. That's stuff.

Yeah, there's the first, there's the first it pieces advice. Yeah, so and it was really hard. So I ran this morning, but Monday, Tuesday, I did it. So I'm trying to decrease, but I, I don't know, there's a lot of just a little bit of background to I was 200 pounds coming out of high school. And I lost 80 of it. And I've kept it off for 10 years. So there is a part of me that's afraid of gating it back. Okay, so walk walk. I mean, you don't have to like all of a sudden go from run. I don't know how long you run by the way before. It's not too much anymore. So one to three miles five days a week.

Okay. Yeah, you know, and what is your so your fears you'll gain all the way back? What is your what is your worry about not addressing your exhaustion stage of health? I just don't feel dead I've been Probably chronically under eating for a long time and so I know I'm gonna have to increase calories So I know I'm going to have to increase calories. My hair has been brittle and I haven't had a cycle in years. Yeah. So, I'm not trying to scare you, Andrea. I'm sorry.

But the end result of the exhaustion stage is actually your fear of what's going to happen when you stop running. Okay. So, if you don't want to gain the way back, you got to take care of your health, not hammering your health until your body breaks down. This is what's going to end up happening. It's already starting to break down based off of what you're telling me, right? So you got to address your health right now.

That's number one. So I would stop running. You can walk. Yes. Maps and a ball, two foundational workouts a week, not three would be ideal. I mean, the last phase, so should I run it again or? Yeah, I like map, center ball, mass performance would be fine too. I was, okay, performance would be good.

Yeah, performance would work fine too. I'm wanting to do that one. Yeah, that would work fine too. If you don't have that one, we'll send it to you. But I wouldn't add the additional running at all. And I would slowly increase calories over time. Now, are you working with Dr. Cabral's team at the moment? Yes. So I have done, I did the HTMA testing and I met with a health coach. And so after that call, I ordered the labs for hormone testing as well as Candida because I have a lot of digestion issues too.

And so I sent those in on Monday, and it's gonna be two to three weeks. Okay, I would work with his team on the nutrition aspect of it. They're gonna be focused on your health and they're gonna do a better job than my recommendations are gonna be on this podcast, because I don't have your tests, I'm not able to work with you in person like they are

or should I say, you know, more than just this phone call or this podcast. So I would, I would follow their advice when nutrition and I'd follow their advice when it comes to how much exercise you can throw out your body. You know, off the top, I'd say definitely don't run. Maps performance could probably be good. I don't know if I'd have you do three foundational workouts though. Mass performance calls for three foundational workouts. I think two would be planning. Two would be planning.

The mobility sessions just as restorative. It meant for you to just, you know, stay busy. I know like part of it is idle hands and and just being like not known what to do, but to actually have activity that's restorative. There's a way to do that that's not super intensive and demanding that will actually help you recover faster. Yeah, one of the mistakes we sometimes make, or I should say sometimes, most of the time, is that we prioritize things above our health. And what ends up happening is over time our health suffers, and then whatever we prioritize above our health actually goes out the window too, right?

So your fear is gaining the way back, and so what you've done is you've compromised your health and are to maintain this weight loss, but your health is starting to rebel, right? It's starting to go in the opposite direction, and at some point you'll lose your health, and you're going to get all that stuff that you feared coming back to the point where it's gonna be far worse than it was before because you're gonna be in a really bad situation. So you have to, you absolutely have to prioritize your health

no matter what your goal is, even if you don't care about your health and you just wanna keep the weight off. What's your sleep look like? 68 hours. Okay. Yeah. You know, they're probably going to coach you to really focus on getting eight. That's what I'm going to assume. But since you're working with their team, they're really going to be able to help guide you in the right direction with that. They do a really

good job. And then do you ever do anything like kind of restorative yoga or do you ever do walks? Like are you ever doing anything that's like real low mild intensity meditation, anything like that? First thing in the morning, I always am reading my Bible and walking at the same time. And so I'm already have that walking practice, but I kind of just started the, this new protocol and kind of figuring it all out this week.

So I don't have anything in place like that yet. I mean, that's good. That's a good place to start. And then when you get into performance, you're gonna see you're gonna have these mobility days. I think those will be great for you. It'll keep you moving, but it's more restorative. It's not, it's not.

How long are they usually? What, 20 minutes? You say, 23 minutes? Okay. Nice, okay. Yep, yep. You're on the right track, Andrea. Do you have mass performance, by the way?

Because we'll send that to you if you don't. I don't. All right, we'll shoot that over to you. And you're on the right track. And I get, listen, I totally understand your apprehensions. You're going to be changing directions. And you know, for 10 years you've kept that weight off. And the fear is, oh my God, it's going to come back.

Because I'm changing things. But you are changing things in the right direction. And weight off and the fear is, oh my God, it's gonna come back because I'm changing things, but you are changing things in the right direction and what's gonna happen is you're gonna be far better off than you are right now. You're in great hands too. You're in great hands too. What? You're in great hands too.

Oh yeah. Yeah, Dr. Corolla's one of those. And I think I needed to hear that. I kind of knew that I needed to cut those things out and really focus on my health, but I don't know, sometimes you just need to hear it. Yep, absolutely. Well, there you go, on in.

All right, thank you guys. Thank you. All right. How many people are out there that are so focused on the appearance aspect or the insecurity fear, right? This was me for a long time. How many people are in that position and they compromise their health

and then it gets to the point where they're forced. They're forced to face the health issues because when that's not working anymore, it's actually going in completely opposite direction. That's a hard pill to swallow. You can only red line for so long. And then things start to break down. And I'm glad we're leaving a lot of nutrition over

because they're obviously taking care of that. I, for me personally, like I'm glad, you know, we're leaving a lot of nutrition over, you know, because they're obviously taking care of that. I, you know, for me personally, like listening to that being in a catabond, still is like, yeah, I've been cutting breakfast for so long, you know, realize like, you just don't realize you get into these habits and in routines of things that are working for you at the time, but don't realize, you know, down the road, again, this isn't benefiting me anymore of my body's reacting accordingly. So it's good to do these tests to really highlight this. Yeah, it reminds me of it's like you're driving and then you get like one red light comes

on the dash and you're like, ah, it sounds okay, I'll keep going. And then the other red light comes on the dash. Right. You know, you listen to your lights, like, yeah, pay attention. And then you're listening, you're like, I hear a little knocking, let's just turn up the radio. And then you keep going, you keep going. I'll wait for a couple more paychecks. And eventually it's just. You're like, I hear a little knocking. Let's just turn up the radio And then you keep going you keep going for a couple more paychecks. Yeah, and eventually it's just Kukakah, you know, you got a trash of car, dude, you know, you could have spent a thousand bucks

Yeah, I think I see a money. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Our next caller is John from New Jersey. John, what's happening? How can we help you? Hi guys, how's it going? Good I just want to say first of all, thank you for taking the time with me today. I really appreciate it being a listener since about 2018. So it's kind of surreal being on this, but yeah, so thank you. We're going to get it right on. Yeah, so kind of my question was about two years ago when COVID all started, I through a pretty aggressive cut.

And this was after kind of already seeing some small declines in the gym in general. But what happened was I kind of had a lot of trouble regaining my lean body mass after that. And as someone kind of would always been going to the gym pretty frustrating for me. Thankfully, you someone kind of would always been going to the gym, pretty frustrating for me. Thankfully, actually kind of from listening to your podcast within the past couple of months,

I decided to kind of check out my hormones where I found out that my testosterone was really low, like low 200s. I ended up getting on TRT to help solve that. This was of course kind of after going through all of the, you know, lifestyle steps, you know, good sleep, nutrition and whatnot. So basically, since then, I kind of haven't seen what I was hoping for at least in terms of physique improvements. I know that just some say, you something saying it's not a miracle thing,

but still, I've been slowly reverse dieting, training, and not really seeing anything the way of metabolism, body composition, improvements. So the one thing that I'm debating is that this could be a result of overtraining for me and kind of how I would go about fixing it. Just for reference, I do weight training about 45 minutes, like an hour, six days a week, get 10,000 steps, so just slow the background. Where's the calories at right now?

What's your size? How big, how heavy are you? Give me some, give me some. So yeah, right now I'm 5'6, about 127. And that's actually a bit up and away from before I started TRT. Like I said, I got to the point where I kind of leaned out way too much. Kind of where even like friends are like, hey, like you don't look like, you know, the same kind of

lifting guy used to. And then Calary wise, I'm only sitting around like 2000 right now, where I feel like if I start to go over that, I start to notice my body putting on weight. Okay, John, what were your workouts like before TRT and what are they like after? It's pretty much been the same. I've always been mostly lifting, weight training. I've never been doing cardio, junky type of things. I've kept them pretty much in the same time frame.

I'm leaning more towards bodybuilding style, but kind of from you guys learning to try and mix it up in terms of sometimes strength and whatnot. What makes you feel like you're over training? Like, do you have any other signs? Are you just getting sore tired? The reason I question it is not from like a soreness or fatigue thing. I think again as someone that really enjoys the whole kind of ate a protest and getting the jam I've never felt like unmotivated, it just seems to be a lack of results.

Okay, I would change it workout. Definitely. Follow the program. Yeah, we'll put you on maps and a ball, that one works really well for a lot of people. So I would change the programming. And you're right with TRT, it's not a miracle. So I think a lot of times people think, I'll get my testosterone up to where it's supposed to be. And yes, you'll feel typically more energy, a little bit more drive, motivation.

You will build a little bit of muscle, you will burn a little bit more body fat, but it isn't a miracle. So it's not gonna fix things. I would, I would want, I would, I would, I would, uh, you know, I'm not a nutritionist. So it's not my, but I would, if it was me, I would bump my calories a little bit,

because you're on TRT, one of the perks of being on TRT is you, you have this loud muscle building signal now 24-7. So if you eat additional calories and you are following a good program like maps and a bulk, more than likely those additional calories are going to get partitioned over to building muscle. Part of why you may be stalling out is because you're just you're training six days a week and you're hitting it pretty intensely and you're not quite giving the body enough and maybe you have this little fear that you're going to start to put on a bunch of body fat. And so every time you start to feed a little bit more, you back right back off, but maybe

that's exactly what your body needs. So I would look into increasing my calories a little bit while also following anabolic and see what that does. I have a pretty good feeling if you do that, you should start to see some strength gains relatively quick. Okay. Now, the one thing I would say is I think what's always kind of made me a little bit hesitant of hopping on one of your programs is just because

someone that you know, it's not just the physical aspect of it, but I really enjoyed the mental thing of, you know, getting in the gym, you know, those six days and touching the weights and I have kind of tried Go six days in go six days the other three days walk around touch weights and walk on the treadmill I mean, you can go to the gym. Yeah, you can even do this There's like you could take the three foundational workouts and maps and a ball. Look cut them in half So you have you know six if you want or you could do the way it's laid out go to the gym Do your one of your trigger sessions do some mobility work? Yeah, you you could do the way it's laid out, go to the gym, do your, when your trigger sessions,

do some mobility work. Yeah. You know, so, I mean, it's like, I get the mental aspect, I'm the same way. There's other things you could do though. You don't have to hit the body with body building workouts every single day, especially if it's not working for. The more isn't better, always.

If you have an inclination that you might be able to train at all, have you ever tried to do the opposite? Have you ever tried to eliminate a few days out of the week and see what I did to your body? You got to kind of experiment a bit if you're not getting results, you got to change it up. And I'm okay with the argument of the mental aspect because I totally get that and then still go to the gym.

There's plenty of things you can do that isn't stressing the body to try and build more muscle by lifting more heavy weights. It sounds like to me, you're overtraining by the amount of volume you're potentially doing and not consuming enough calories by sending the right signal, by probably reducing the amount of volume, like a MAP Santa Ballot type of a program, you're probably gonna see your body start to respond. And if you need that consistency of, hey, I've built this routine of every day between this time, this time,

that's my hour in the gym. We'll still go, bro. Go, go walk, go stretch, go do the sauna, go swim, go, I mean, go do some other things. I mean, I don't even remember bands. I mean, yeah. It doesn't have to always be weights and intensity. Right.

So there's plenty of things you could still go do at the gym that aren't going to be as taxing as going and hammering the weights six days a week. And it's because it sounds to me like that's probably the part of the problem right now. Yeah. And yeah, again, because you know, it is something I enjoy. I'm sure, you know, I know for a fact that there are days when, you know, I'll start to, you know, push a little more than I should. So I do like the idea of the foundational and kind of splitting it up. Just relates that, is there any way you would recommend splitting the sessions like

do's and do's in terms of, yeah, you might want to keep maybe do okay, switch the arms portion to your day that wouldn't be foundation. I think you're over complicating that I would look at Mapsana Bollock the foundation day. I would pick half of the exercises I want to do one day, pick the other half of the other day. I don't over complicate it. Yeah, you can go, you can do like, you know, legs chest back and then do shoulders and arms the next day. That's fine. Yeah. Okay, cool. There you go. No problem. Yeah, it's always frustrating because it's like,

I want to get better results, but I don't want to get... I don't want to change anything though, actually. Yeah, I like what I'm doing. That makes it really tough, right? It's tough, yeah, it's a tough one, especially when you, yeah, like it's already an identity thing. Like I go to the gym this many times and you know, to change that routine, no thanks.

Well, so there's a part of me that gets the whole like, because I mean, I like one, but I do different stuff. Yeah, right. So I mean, I got to that place where, you know, I was consistently going seven days a week and I love that. I love that I had this like, I was eating breakfast at the same time every day.

I was eating, I was working out the same time. I had this next meal saying, I love that I had this, like, I was eating breakfast at the same time every day. I was eating, I was working out at the same time. I had the next meal at the same time. I mean, I was so routine. And that was some of the greatest progress I'd ever seen in my physique. But I'm also smart enough to know that if I'm going to the gym seven days a week, those seven days, the intensity of training cannot look the same. There's just no way. I won't, I will not continue to progress.

And he said it himself. He's like, you know, he'll have a tendency to want to push it, because you feel good. You know, a lot of times just because you feel good and okay, and you think, and because you can do it, it's how he says it, just because you can do it, doesn't mean it's optimal for you. So I think that's where we make this mistake is like, well, I can do it, I'm going six days,

I can lift the weights, I'm able to do it, feels good while I'm doing it, it's like, well, yeah, but it's not optimal for your body, especially if you are potentially underfeeding it too. So if he's underfeeding it and he's training with that high of volume, like, you're totally strutting that's and then I don't know what his programming looks like. I don't know his experience of what it looks like for him pairing exercises and exercise selection or volume or how about this? I wouldn't even ask him this. How long have you been doing that same fucking routine?

You've been doing that same six day routine, the same muscle splits and the same exercises you love to do for the last six months to a year? Well, that could be part of your reason while you're plateaued too. So yeah, follow something else for a little while. Back off the volume, maybe increase the calories in tiny bit and see how your body responds.

Yeah, the other thing too is that people, I mean, I would like to see his workouts, because a lot of people will optimize hormones exogenously, right? So I have a doctor give them testosterone, and then they work out harder, and then they add volume. Of course. And it doesn't work that way, right? And if you were over training before, and you go on hormones, that doesn't mean all of a sudden you stop over training. You still probably need to back off and give yourself some time.

This has only been on for four months. It takes a good eight months to a year before you even really start to feel the full effect. Get a high body recover. That's what magic happens. That's what we'll always forget that. Next color is Mitchell from Ohio. What's up, Mitchell?

How can we help you? Well, how's it going, guys? What's up, right? Awesome. So I just Well, how's it going guys? What's all right? All right. Awesome. So I just want to say thank you for everything you guys have done through content, all the funny content, and then also the articles,

just everything you guys have been great for the last. I've been listening for over five years, so. Yeah. Great stuff. Oh, gee. Yeah. So one thing, also, I want to say congratulations to Sal on the new edition.

Thank you. You have to expect things. So congratulations to Sal on the new edition. Thank you. Expecting so that's awesome. Good for you. Thank you. Big pop. And then that kind of brings me to my question. So my wife and I are currently expecting a baby girl in September as well. And so I'm just trying to figure out how my programming should go once the baby comes,

especially with, you know, lack of sleep, still working, things like that. I'm definitely going to want to keep lifting. Should I focus more on body parts that are lagging? Should I do more mobility, nutrition, especially with your guys' background with personal training and also being fathers? I'm just trying to just kind of curious what your guys' thought is. Is this first kid? First kid, yep.

Congratulations, man. Thank you. You're in for the most challenging, also most awesome time of my fatherhood's amazing, bro. Okay, so the beauty of exercise is that, and this is a lot of people understand this, but this is really what's great about it, is you can mold it and shape it to the context of your life,

because really what it is, it's an incredible tool to improve the quality of your life regardless of the context of your life. So what does that mean? That means that when you're getting good sleep and you're not a lot of stress and your diet's really good, like you can go train hard, you can hit PRs, you can really push your body to the next level. It also means during periods of stress or lack of sleep or other priorities, you can use exercises a way to de-stress, improve your health, and kind of help you maintain yourself,

help you stay on track. But the workouts look very different with those two situations. Okay, so how should you work out after you have a baby? Well, it depends on what that looks like. I have cousins who had a baby and the baby just recently and their baby just goes right to sleep, right away. And no problems, eight hours a night, super easy.

They feed easily and I'm like, wow, that's pretty crazy. Because that was, yeah, super rare. That was not my experience. That was a really good example of giving him. Yeah. I mean, the better examples, actually actually just to compare you and I. You and I are definitely on two different trains right now of training and we both have kids that are young.

So I think that's your depends response is yes, it does depend. It also depends on your goals and how you set it at the beginning, which I think is perfect Sal, is that you know, Sal uses I, training a little bit different than I use training. Like, it's a, it's definitely his way of de-stressing, of his way of staying balanced. Like, you do not, and we knew this before he had a kid. Like, you don't fuck with that time for him. Like, we've structured work around him. We structure travel around his workout schedule.

That is, that is a very important time for him keeping the rest of his world balanced. I'm a little less like that. I'm not like that. I looked at it like, okay, I know I'm gonna go into having this kid. It's going to probably dominate my life. So I'm gonna try and get in the best shape I can, heading into it, because I understand that the amount

of volume it takes for me to maintain what I have already built is much easier takes for me to maintain what I have already built is much easier than for me to try and build. So I don't wanna be in the process of trying to raise a kid for the first time and also thinking I'm going to be building and trying to build a physique. So I'm gonna bust my ass, why my wife is pregnant, get myself in pretty damn good shape,

build some good solid muscle mass for myself. That way I can give myself some flexibility when the kid comes. And that doesn't mean I said, hey, I went from training five, six days a week, hitting it hard, and then she has the baby, and then also I just go to zero or nothing or really low. I still wanted to kind of try and maintain that, but then when I had a sleepless night, or I just wanted to be with Katrina and the baby all day long and do nothing, I gave myself that flexibility to be okay to do that. And I knew that muscle wasn't just going to fall off my body or I was going to lose all

my gains that I did for the last 15 years. And all I needed to do is make sure I got into my garage and lifted for an hour or two for the week. And I would stay in pretty good shape. So long is I didn't allow the lack of sleep and stuff to fuck with the cravings, to fuck with the food that I started eat. Because that's where I think is a dad you're gonna be careful

is if your volume of training reduces like crazy, you get lack of sleep, which is inevitable is coming for you, and which also promotes these cravings. And then you go from the guy who was training five, six days a week, eating really good, and then now you're not training as consistently, you're not getting a good sleep, you're allowing the sleep to kick up the cravings like crazy, and now you're making all these bad food choices.

And so now you're losing a little bit of muscle and your pilot on fat. That's where they can kind of get out of control. So I think that if as long as you're mindful of what's going on with your consistency and your eating habits to your training ratio, it's not as crazy as I think some people make it out to be. You could train one or two days in the week and still maintain what you put on and what you built leading into it. And by the way, Mitchell, I choose to work out at 6 a.m. so I can do it. And so that's just a priority for me. But it really depends on how it improves your quality and your workouts change.

Yeah. My workouts are harder when I get more sleep. They're not as hard when I don't get a less volume. That's the point. The point is it's totally moldable. It's completely moldable and modifiable based off of how you feel and what's going on your life. And you could literally be like, oh my God, I'm so tired. I got no sleep.

I'm supposed to work out today. I think I'll just stretch. How about you, TeeBee? Just have that flexibility. But how about me? Yeah, how about you, TeeBee? Yeah, dude. Tiny beer, tiny beer?

Yeah, because that used to be something that's amazing. No, I don't like TeeBee. I'll go with Tiny Beer. But yeah, I mean, you guys kind of said everything I would have recommended because really it's just like, get it in while you can, man. And realize that you're gonna have to have flexibility. And there's gonna be a lot of, just check yourself in terms of your stress bucket.

And in terms of not getting sleep, obviously, you're gonna have to adjust the intensity. And there's ways to do these workouts in a restorative manner. So I guess like figuring that out, right, you know, now about how you're gonna approach that, I think would help. But, you know, relieve yourself of all that pressure of having to, you know, sort of progress or maintain, really just like do it to feel better and go through that to build your body up

so you have that kind of stamina to carry yourself in an unzombie-like state. That's another great point, Justin, because I found myself doing a lot of mobility. I've done more mobility in the last couple of years and I probably have my entire life. And part of that was giving myself that freedom of like, okay, I know I'm not being fed optimally, I know I'm not sleeping optimally, so I'm not going to go in there

and hammer heavy, heavy squats and deadlifts right now. I'll do some mobility work because I can improve. There's areas I can improve on mobility. It's more restorative. It's not going to tax and stress my body the same. And I'm still moving. I'm still moving. I'm still progressing in a better direction of better overall movement and health.

And so, yeah, just give yourself that much symmetry for, you know, I don't know if I was to like recommend a program, that would be in one like, you know, during that. Start right now, right? Mitchell, do you have a, do you have a home jammer, do you have equipment at home that you can have access? Yes, actually, you just got a foldable spot rack for the wall. Well, there you go, dude. That's a weird.

Yeah, that's great. Because in you what you do, so I was just going to make a recommendation, but I want to see if you have a home gym. You could go do like 10 minute workouts throughout the day. Totally, love doing that. Yeah, so you're at home and you're like, oh, I got 10 minutes. I'm going to go do like two sets of bench press. And then you come back inside and, oh, baby,

took an app, I think I'll do 20 minutes of shoulders and arms and you come back inside and, oh, baby, took an app, I think I'll do 20 minutes of shoulders and arms and you come back inside. You're a little power up. I did a lot of that with Max. When Max was from his zero to one was like a lot of broken up workouts where I just got in there, got a few lists. And again, it's okay, it's okay if you just did five sets

of squats that day. You know what I'm saying? Like that's, remember, you don't have to do as much volume to maintain what you've built So I would do my best to build a solid foundation going into having the baby and then once the baby arrives Then have a little bit of flexibility. When's the due date? September 15th all right, you got a little bit of time. We'll send you map symmetry. Yeah Appreciate it guys. You got a man. Congratulations. Yeah, best luck You got it. Thank you. Yeah, you some we just called you tubby bitch

Like way back in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it was funny. He was like an endearing thing I was like Well, when I said TV I meant tiny beard because that was funny. I'm sorry, that just like took me back. I know you were looking at me all sideways, like, tummy bitch, I'm going to get out of here. I haven't heard that in a long time. Yeah, that was endearing, but when he said it,

it's like he went back to norm for a second. Yeah, no, flashbacks. Yeah, it's, listen, I went through God, I was like a two year period, really challenging in my life. And I worked out, and boy, my workouts looked different. It was not anything like they looked now. It was like, I went into the gym, and I'm like, I gotta take this 45 minutes,

just to take care of myself. And it was like light and mobility and stretching and like five sets total of exercise. That's it, you can, you know, stopping completely, I mean, if you're really fried, that makes sense. But I always encourage people to do something because you stop to take care, even if it means you take the break, the man. Yes. Or just take a break for 30 minutes. Like, to give me 30 minutes, I got to, I got to take a break or, you know, 15 minutes

here and some of the most walking I ever did was when Max was little too. Katrina and I put him in the stroller and we go for hour, two hour walks, why he slept or played like so. Two birds once going. Yeah, yeah, I just think that it's for Peter. I just think the obviously I think becoming the dad is the most important part, right? Becoming a dad and being a supportive partner and father. Totally.

So that to me, Trump's my physique and my body like at the time and if I put on a little cup, and that's the two is like also having your partner relief. Yeah, dude, if I put on a little cup. And that's the two is like also having your partner relief. Yeah, dude, if I put on two or three percent body fat over the course of three months because I'm not training as much or I know you're trying to take care of us right now. You still don't look really fast. It's okay.

Yeah, it's much easier. Take some time for yourself. Our next caller is Jordan from Montana. Jordan, what's happening? Hey, man, how's it going? Good. Good. Just, uh, I've been watching you guys for a couple of months now, um, at work outside.

I work in a mine underground, so I don't have Wi-Fi or anything, so I just record it and listen to you guys there. Oh, cool. That's awesome. Yeah, so my question is, why I used to have a very physically demanding job, and now that I've gone to the mine, I'm operating equipment, and so I'm not very physical in my job as much as I used to be. So I'm not burning a ton of calories or anything like that. And so I'm gaining weight and now I'm getting I'm almost 30. So I'm seeing some effects of aging I guess. Yeah, I see. And so I'm just wondering what I can do to I'm just wondering what I can do to compensate for my job and aging and stuff like that. Do you guys remember the first time this happened to you, like when you switched careers or in drama? Oh, I was starting to get more sedentary.

Yeah, I remember when we did the podcast. Oh, that was the first for you? Yeah, I mean, I was always up in training and walking around. What about when you did the bank? That was only for a short period of time. Yeah, I did some marketing job that sucked. Oh, so yeah, I laughed right away. So I'm like, say at 30, just like him, was when I, or 29, so at 29,

I made the switch from being a trainer. A trainer who ran boot camps at six o'clock in the morning, worked 10, 12 hour days with clients, six days a week, to all of a sudden, this guy who was sitting at a marijuana clinic with no clients, no nothing like for at least the first six months when we were trying to build the business. So I went from that extreme to that extreme like sitting on my ass all day long and I was almost 30 years old.

So I could totally relate to this and this was if you've heard me potentially, I don't know, you just started listening. I went through a transformation process where at 30 years old I was in the worst shape of my life because of this transition. Because what happened was I was still eating the exact same way I was eating when I was a personal trainer.

And the difference in calorie burn was great. And it wasn't like I also went to eat just eating horrible food. Like I literally just ate the same as I ate as a personal trainer, but the amount of calorie burn was so dramatically different that I just kept gaining weight and gaining weight. And where it fucked me, I don't know where you are in your fitness journey or what your goals were,

but I was always the skinny guy who couldn't put on weight and couldn't put on muscle. So I actually got like fucked a little bit because I was putting weight on and I was like, oh yeah. So first time I'm over 200 pounds and then I was like 205 and then literally I didn't think, I actually didn't think I was really fat.

I just thought I was getting bigger. And one day I'm laying on his friends. I'm laying on my side and this is the story I've told before I'm like laying in bed and I go to on my side and this is the story I've told before. I'm like laying in bed and I go to scratch my side of my belly now and I felt a belly for the first time in my life. I thought, oh shit, I'm not buff. So I get it and a lot of that is just you have to, we gotta change the diet.

Don't try and out burn it or out work it through exercise. I think that's the mistake that a lot of people make. They're like, okay, I had this sedentary job. Now I'm gonna pick up intense running and crazy intense training to try and out burn it. It's like you need to adjust your diet accordingly. Cut your calories and lift weights so you can still build muscle. So at least you could send that.

You might actually build more muscle now. Yeah, being, you know, that's the positive side. That's the positive side. So I would focus on building muscle. What are you, what are you mining by the way? What are you guys mining over there? Big coin? It's, I wish.

No, it's, it's precious metals. Wow. So they got like, playdeam and gold and other metals. Wow, that's crazy. I've never seen that before. That's gotta be really crazy. Do we get like a good deal if we go through you? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Oh, I don't think we've ever sold a match program for all of the two of us. Once you get his email, what Doug's a big precious meta guy. When gold coin, we'll give you a maps program. No, you know, I would focus on lifting weights, at least three days. Do you have any maps programs, Jordan?

I don't know. All right, let me send you maps and a ball, so follow maps and a ball, that's a great muscle building strength building program. Cut your calories, okay? Especially on the days you don't work out. You gotta cut your calories and eat less.

And hit your protein intake, so that would be the main thing I'd focus on. So hit me, just for however many pounds you weigh, so I don't know how much you weigh, but hit that in grams of protein and focus mainly on that and try and then cut back and restrict the liver. Now here's what's interesting, your body will actually adapt. Your body will actually start to,

because it actually, through the activity you did before, it actually started becoming more efficient. Now you're not doing as much activity. You could build more muscle and actually end up with a similar calorie burn to what you did before. It's just gonna take some time. This is what happened to me. It's exactly what you're explaining

is what eventually happened to me was the positive side of being so sedentary was I could build muscle for the first time faster than I ever could. Because it didn't require as such a high calorie intake to do that, which because I was so active. And then the more muscle will help you burn it out. Exactly. And then eventually it happened. The muscle started piling on and then my metabolism started roaring again.

And then before you knew it, I was back up and actually higher calories than I was as a young trainer and now with more muscle. So I mean, also to just like, obviously activity now, you gotta be more intentional with it. That's something like going forward because you're not easily getting it. It's not like part of your job or your routine,

so you have to be more thoughtful about how you get it in Whenever you can't so even like I said bring a rubber band with me just in between do some pull apart Do something to just get some You know muscle contraction just so I can keep a small signal going Before my next workout. Yeah, how deep underground you guys go by the way I'm fascinated Well, so we take a train that goes three and a half miles into the side of a mountain. Who?

And so we're at the base of that is at 6,500 above sea level. And it goes up from there, it goes up to like 9,000 foot above sea level. So it's like layers inside of a mountain. It's pretty weird. Wow. Now, is it like, what's, is it hotter inside? I would imagine it's got to be a different temperature. So it's yeah, it's like it's about 60 65 degrees year-round. So that's pretty nice. You got like lift rocks while you're down there? No, not anymore. I guess suppose you could do that.

It is the machine lift rocks. Well, we'll send you maps and a book. I think that'll be a good program for you, Jordan. Follow that, cut your calories, and then allow your metabolism to speed back up. You will adapt. Your body will adapt. Doug, let's get some precious models. All right, sounds good. Thanks, Jordan.

Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. No problem. Yeah, I refer to the study on the Hodgsa tribe, which is their modern hunter-gatherers, and they studied their metabolism, and they didn't burn that many more calories. Like, right on the same amount of calories,

the average calcium. Super efficient. Your body starts to adapt, but in that initial period, if you keep eating the same, you gain tons of body fat. But if you build muscle, it'll... He is literally describing what the transition

that I went through at the same age. And you're describing exactly the process. What happened to me was one take. First I had to figure the diet thing out like, Oh, I can't eat like this anymore. I had to cut back on that. Got back on training consistently. Then but the positive side, what I noticed was like, Oh, this is cool. I'm actually building muscle faster than I've ever built muscle before. And then before you knew it, the metabolism started to catch up. And then I was actually now eating those high calories again, but I was able now to,

I think I had 10, 15 more pounds of muscle on me. Yeah, and this is really why we're trying to promote building muscle as that insurance, right? To help with your metabolism in these sedentary settings now that we have. Excellent. Look, if you like our information, you'll love MindPumpFree.com.

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