Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 183: The only supplements you need

Episode Date: November 12, 2015

If you believe the advertising and the hype, supplements can make or break your muscle growth. The truth is, your money and energy is better spent perfecting your workouts rather than counting on supplements that at best provide a slight edge and at worse can actually be harmful. There are some supplements worth taking, though, and in this episode, Sal, Adam & Justin reveal what supplements to take and when. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to MIND, pump. Welcome to your doom. What video game was that from? Welcome to your doom. Welcome to your doom. Castle come to our doom Castlevania

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He's the one with lipstick on it. Yeah He's of shared fluids Adam. Yeah, it's okay. You guys, it's the one with lipstick on it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a shared fluids before. Yeah. Uh, what? So, you know, I, so I was listening to this, uh, this podcast, I'm going to give someone a plug. Is that okay if I plug another one? The one I turned you on to. Plugged in.

The one that you never listened to. Plugged away. They saw the title of, I don't need to lose money. I don't see any money from all these plugs. That's how well I know you. Yeah. So the, the podcast is called Smart Drug Smarts. And I freaking love it because they go into

neutropics and how substances affect the brain. They go into legal and illegal substances. It was pretty awesome. But one of the episodes was on Craya Team. And there was a scientist that's kind of the foremost expert on creating and don't ask me his name because I don't remember what his name was, but he was going over... Dr. Heikmischstein.

Yes, he was going over the benefits of creatine for the body and he was talking about how vegans in particular should supplement with creatine because the body can synthesize its own creatine through the amino acids, I believe, argonine and cysteine, but I'm not quite sure, so don't hold me to it. But then they need a methyl donor in a complete the process, which is not a good thing because you're limited.

And so low creatine levels, not only means low physical performance, it also means lower cognitive performance because every cell runs off of ATP and they've shown cognitive benefits to supplementing with creating especially for vegans. So this made me think of a good episode topic to talk about people that probably should take supplements. We talk about supplement. It's the use of a supplement. Right, I got you.

Right. So right off the bat, I just said it is vegans will benefit greatly from taking creatine. Creatine is probably one of those supplements. This is not gonna get it. I mean, creatine from plants. No, you only get it from animal sources. Your body will synthesize so much,

but you tend to be limited, your body tends synthesize, you know, so much, but you tend to be limited, you know, your body tends to be limited by certain limiting factors and supplementing creatine in studies has shown to improve cognitive and physical performance in particular for vegans. And it's also got some antioxidant benefits as well. So for them, right off the bat, I would say, you should, if you're vegan,

and you can tolerate creatine, because some people have gastro issues with creating, but if it's okay with you, you probably should take creating. Well, this is a good little topic since I feel like it's it's been quite some time since we've talked about supplements in general. Yeah. I feel like it's been since our early episodes that we we really got after them. And I think we've created this episodes that we really got after them. And I think we've created this, every one of us here takes some sort of supplements. So maybe we should go over some of the supplements that we use and that we do recommend to people. We've stayed away from it one because we have all these supplement companies that have been coming after us trying to get them to rep their stuff. And there's a lot of things that in the supplement industry that we don't their stuff. And there's a lot of things that in the supplement industry

that we don't believe in. And there's a lot of things that, one thing that we all stand for is that it's definitely lower on the list as far as priorities to getting yourself in healthy, good shape. Right. So we don't like to, and I feel like it's the opposite message

that's given from all the other fitness professionals. I think if you've became some sort of a celebrity, whether it be in the physique and bodybuilding world or radio or TV or doesn't matter, if some sort of in the fitness world, the first thing that they all do is, you know, wrap a supplement company and then every, all their message has like this, you know, underlining bullshit that is always geared towards selling more supplements to people and one of the things that we all promised is that we wouldn't do that. So because of that, I feel like we've took in such a far stance that everybody thinks that we're like anti supplements, no, not anti supplements at all. It's just, you know, it's, it's nowhere near as important as a balanced nutrition and a balanced diet for

yourself and proper training. And no supplement, no, at least no supplement available legally is going to give you the results that a lot of them promise. Exactly. Yeah. But that being said, you know, I think we all, we all utilize supplements, right? Definitely. I would say that I would like to see people supplement when they see a need for versus supplement

when they don't see a need. So let's say, for example, I have lots of inflammation in my body, I never eat fish, my diet is very heavy and chicken and red meat. So you don't make a three. Right, so fish oil may be a supplement because of my omega-3s are out of balance with the other fatty acids. Would probably a good idea for me to take.

If let's say you have gastroissues, you have gut issues, gut inflammation, a probiotic may be beneficial or supplement like crocumin, maybe helpful. So I think supplementing when you see a need, it's very, very different. It makes much more sense and it's better to do it that way than taking supplement. I like it. Well, I mean, if women are like anemic or something like that and supplementing with iron or, you know, things like that, like make logical sense, where you're not getting a sufficient amount

of a certain mineral or nutrient or something like that and you're diet. Yeah, because even for me, I rarely I'll take anything, but like creatine is definitely one of them that makes its way in. And occasional way proteins or something like that, if I'm in more of a fasted state,

you know, that's something that I'll do. But other than that, it's, it's, I try as much as possible to get everything from whole natural foods. Yeah, I would say the performance-based supplements, especially as you get more and more advanced than you're training. As your intensity goes up, then you might, then you'd benefit more from taking things like brand chaminow acids, for example, because when you're at a certain level, you're always flirting with that line of overdoing it or doing the right amount,

and brand chaminow acids, for example, might help keep you under that. So if you're kind of advanced and you're training at a very high level, then that might be something that's supplement with. I've noticed results from taking those. Oh, yeah. I mean, so my buddy actually was just over my last weekend. The reason why this is a great topic is because he just came in and came to my house. He's going through my coverage to

get stuff. And I have a cupboard that is like all supplements. It actually looks like a supplements store when you come in. I mean, I literally have a shit ton of supplements. And he's like, wait a second, I thought you're like Mr. Antisupps and this and that. I said, no, I've got pretty much everything in here, but the way I use it, and most of all that shit will last me forever. Because I just like you said, and I think it's such a great point.

And since this is something I just recently done, notice inflammation going on in me, I do know I get a lot of stake and red meats in my diet and stuff. I hadn't had a lot of fish in my diet lately. So I've been taking my omega-3s. But I'm only taking that for that exact reason because I know that. I know I've got inflammation going on and I know that that's I've had fish in quite some time and I have been eating steak red meat at least once

if not twice every single day. So getting an abundance of what your six is, right? My six is and I'm not getting enough of my threes. So of course, I'm gonna utilize that to help balance that out. Then if all sudden the information goes down, I'm fish is back in the diet, I'm pulling back maybe on my red meats. I won't be taking it anymore.

I do use branch chinoine acids, glutamine, like that. Same thing too, I use it based off of my training. When I'm training really hard, and typically too, for me, I notice it in different phases. So, the way we work our maps, phase ones, two and three, different phases, I feel like get me more sore and I feel that way. And so, I tend to ramp that up.

I tend to ramp my amino acids up and my glutamine just for that. And I normally dictate that too towards the end of the day, because then I'll always assess like where I'm at on my nutrition for the day. So let's say so I know some like supplements recommend that you take morning evening or morning afternoon or night or whatever. Like that shit doesn't even matter to me. I always take my supplements at night and I kind of base it off of what I ate for the day. Like, is that something that I'm lacking today?

And especially, you know, when it comes to glutamine and branching, I mean, as if I feel like I was lacking a lot of my whole foods and maybe I had a supplement with a way protein or I had a supplement with a bar or something that I'm not getting a whole natural food. I'm missing out on a lot of essentials. So then I might add that in there. We create our own pre-workout. So, I do have a refrigerator that has the citrulline on there. I have the amino acids. I have a caffeine peel, a raw caffeine pill. I have my raw way. So I have a lot of, a raw caffeine pill, you know, I have my raw way. So I have a lot of different supplements that I use. The goal for me is always to be trying to get everything

100% all natural. I mean, that's every day I go into eating, that's the goal. But in reality, it doesn't always happen that way. In reality, sometimes, she doesn't go the way I planned it. That's where it comes into play. Yeah. And that's where you supplement. That's where you utilize supplementation like that. It should not be something.

When I see some of these people where they start their morning right off and they got one of those pill jars and they take their fucking nine supplements right out the gate, it's like, how do you know you're not going to get most of that shit today? Like why? Why take that if you're going to end up eating all this other stuff?

And where it gets dangerous, not dangerous, but where it's, uh, it gets absurd is when you're taking things that end up actually into being acidic, you know, we talked a little bit about this before in a podcast. We're just taking too much. Yeah. I mean, there are things that, that's calcium's good for you. So you should just take it abundance of calcium. They just, they just established that now that they, they were telling people to take extra calcium to fight osteoporosis or to reverse osteopenia. What they found is that number one didn't do that, which makes obvious sense, and I'll

tell you why. It would be like me telling someone who wants to build muscle, just eat more protein because it's the building block for muscle. We're not sending the signal to build muscle, more protein ain't gonna turn into muscle, it's gonna turn into fat. So the same thing is true with calcium. I can give myself a shit ton of calcium,

but if my body's not getting the signal to build and strengthen bone, then that extra calcium is gonna give me kidney stones and potentially cause problems with my heart, which is what they found. They actually found people having more kidney stones and having higher instances of heart failure. So because again, taking a bunch of something doesn't necessarily mean it's going to do

what you think it would do. And multivitamins are like that. When you look at the back of a multivitamin pill and you look at the percentages of RDA, they're all 100% 200%, some of them 5, 600% plus. And that's not including all the food you ate that day. And you know, here's a thing, check this out. It used to be where you ate processed foods and you were low in vitamins and minerals. A lot of processed foods are fortified to shit without vitamins and minerals now. Like you look at like sugar cereal,

look at the back, 150%, 60% of everything, because they throw like a multi-vitamin cereal now. They enrich it or they fortify it almost everything. You know, that's a problem I have too with a lot of supplements is everything is concentrated, right? And it's just, I don't know, whatever your beliefs are, right? If, where, how we are created or what we came from, it was just, it's not even just like what the biggest problem with sugar is, if we ate sugar in its natural form, we'd be all

fucking fine. It's the fact that it's concentrated. Yeah, go chew on a sugar cane. Yeah, go try and go try and have as much sugar. So we've talked about this, I think before that. Yeah, I've talked about this. One, once, one soda can is equivalent to eight feet of sugar cane. I like to see somebody eat eight feet of fucking sugar cane. You know what I'm saying? The way it was found in nature is the way that it should be consumed. And when we start concentrating,

and I get why we concentrate if someone has this deficiency or like it, but that's where it, that's such a small population of somebody that actually needs 300% of this or 150% of this. I mean, if they're not eating any food, okay, I get it, but.

Well, I'll give you another example. Like, we were told for a long time that the low fat dairy is the best. Like, don't, don't, you know, drink milk, but drink non-fat milk, because you don't want the calories and you don't want the saturated fat. You just want the protein, right? You know what the benefit of milk is?

Is that it's got fat, certain fat soluble vitamins in it. And those fat soluble vitamins don't get absorbed without the presence of fat. So now I'm drinking non-fat milk with, let's say, vitamin D and vitamin A in it, that they add some, also in there. But they're both fat soluble vitamins, and there's no fat in it.

And it just basically doesn't get absorbed. My body doesn't absorb it. So, they're also finding that too, that people who drink lots of fat-free milk and low-fat dairy have bone problems versus people who don't, who have the ones that have the full fat. And it's just more of a natural form.

But like protein powder, I want to get into protein powder before I forget because I think protein powder is a staple for the following reasons. It's convenient and it's good post workout. That's it. If you're using your protein powder to help you make up your absurd protein amount, intake that you're doing every single day,

then you've got a problem. Like if I'm trying to eat 350 grams of protein a day and I'm getting 200 grams from food, which is a lot, and I'm getting another 150 from protein powder, now not so good, not so good at all. Maybe I'm taking another 150 from protein powder. Now, not so good. No, not so good at all. Maybe I'm taking too much protein. Right, if you're just using it as a recovery aid

from your workout, you know what I mean? Like that's basic, the only way I even see using it. Yeah, in my opinion. Yeah, it's useful post workout because it's assimilated very quickly. There's, it causes even without the presence of carbohydrates, a pure way protein, for example, we'll spike insulin a little bit,

which is fine, post workout. Well, and you had mentioned how processed it is. I mean, let's be honest. Protein is extremely processed. Very, very processed. So, I mean, you just have to kind of like, do things in balance, right? So you have that maybe in the routine,

but like, it's just not always there. You know, you can't always have. Your goal should be to never to be honest with you, even though like, yeah, like your goal is, it's like you slip. So I need that to supplement with. But it's not a staple in your diet. Yeah, and this is more for,

if you're more towards advanced. Right. Because if you're a beginner, you don't need to take shit. You know what I'm saying? You need to eat or your body will change. I don't recommend, let me tell you something. Of all the clients that I train now, I have one of them take supplements,

where I tell them, take creatine and take protein powder. And when I was training Doug He was one of them so it's like two, but that's because they read more to advanced level everybody else I don't you know, I don't tell people true. I don't either. I mean it's it's one hundred oh and then my vegan client I tell him to take a creatine and that's about it I mean, no acids would be another one for sometimes for vegans to take I know in the past and that's just if you're not Educated on what foods to combine, to supplement with an essential amino acid supplement with your vegan meal to complete

your protein, but most vegans are pretty educated with the food, so they're okay. What about fat burners? No, not really. No, not at all. I mean, I think that's probably one of the the worst Supplements out there as far as it's the marketing and what I mean by worst is it's I think it's the biggest scam At everything out there, you know all fat all fatburner. It's the most misleading

What let's be honest what is it? What the fuck is the difference between a fat burner and a pre workout? Not much. Yeah, very good point. I mean, they're pretty much caffeine driven. They're both stimulants. They're just full of stimulants. They're both the fucking same thing. The only difference between the pre workout is they normally throw in some NO2 in there and

what else might they do? They'll put amino acids in the pre workout. Organine and maybe some, and maybe some citrill, and maybe some, and maybe some, you know, right, that's about it. You know what you just maybe think of? That is, you gotta be careful, is when you're taking multiple supplements, because you just made a great point.

Let's say I'm a person, and I wanna get, I wanna lose weight, I wanna get lean, I wanna build a little bit of muscle. So I'm taking a fat burner, and I'm taking a pre-workout supplement. Now we're getting into... Which a lot of people do this, right? I know. Now we're getting into some dangerous waters. Right.

Because my fat burner says, do not take more than max five pills a day. My pre-workout says, do not take more than two scoops a day, but neither one of them is accounting for the drinking coffee. Right. And neither one of them is accounting for the fact that I'm taking the other one, you know, combined. Yeah. So that's a that's a bad thing too. So I would say if you're taking supplements, to not just look at the one thing that you're taking, but to look and see, look at all the other stuff you may be taking and what they do in combination. Well, that's it. That's goes back to what you talked about before about, you know, everything being fortified or enriched.

I mean, if you look at the back of most protein bars or protein shakes, they're enriched with all your basic multivitamins and so that. So if you're taking a multivitamin, a protein shake, a protein bar, then one of these pre-workout cereal, your post workout shake or what are like that, like all four of those are like, with more than your RDA on all the vitamins and minerals that you need, so it's like overkill. So now you're acidic. Well, you know what's interesting is that we're very aware

of vitamins and minerals now, but we're very unaware of other micronutrients and phytonutrients and things that are found in foods that have other effects other than the essential vitamins and minerals. Well, this is something that I think. Because a lot of times we'll say calorie high, some things, average American diets high in calories but low in nutrients, we're not even necessarily talking about vitamins and

minerals. Most Americans get all the vitamins and minerals I need. Well, just think about what goes to waste. Right. We're talking about even juices or any of these things, like we're getting rid of a lot of the roughage, a lot of the stuff that has cellular structure that needs to go through the process of digestion

for you to release these nutrients and micronutrients and properly. And what are we doing? We're just concentrating it because we're focusing on a couple of these vitamins and nutrients and things that we want, but we're not getting the full benefit that nature's already providing. Well, I know this is anecdotal, but I will tell you guys that I've noticed a significant

difference, and I've like, to a tee, tracked this with myself, of getting ready for a show where I've nothing but whole foods and then other diets allowed myself to have protein bars, protein shakes, and have this process type stuff in there, even though they're healthy or good for you. And it's a night and day difference. I mean, I can, and not only can I, I can tell by the way, I look, I can tell by the way I feel my skin looks different. I have the way I like hold and blow water, like rebound after the experience.

It's a total difference. And, you know, can I get shredded for both? Yeah, and I got shredded. I got on stage and to the average eye, I would probably have no idea what to have. But I can tell. Oh, yeah, because I'm, when you get that lean and I'm that dialed into where I'm measuring and counting every single thing that I consume and every bit of Minotiv exercise and everything, you know, the most subtle change of my, you know, of anything I can see a difference. So It made a big difference when I when I allowed protein bars and shakes into my diet versus when I went all

Getting everything from my whole foods and you know And that's where you talk about those things that we don't account for. You know, yes, we understand that proteins, carbs, and fat are important. And I can eat a food that has exact same protein, carbs, and fat as a protein bar or shake. But we're missing out on a lot of other essentials that we don't even know a lot of this.

That's what I was gonna say. We don't even know a lot of the science that I can tell you that I can feel it and I can see it I don't know and I don't have a fucking study to prove or show somebody to back up what I'm telling you But I can't tell you what I do know I'm a smart enough guy I've been doing this for long enough and when I've put it to test there is a difference what it is I guess that's something that we'll find out later in science is it and it veiled itself I mean just this whole gut flora and micro bacteria, all this stuff.

How that all responds to everything you're feeding it, like it's all new stuff that we're learning as we go. So. I purposely will go to, when I go shopping in the grocery store, I will purposely try to pick out different vegetables that I don't always eat or different fruits or roots, you know, like ginger, you know, or turmeric, slice a little bit, put it in a blender,

you know, just different types of foods that can provide my body with, well, just different nutrients and different, you know, ingredients that we don't even know, what they do in the body, but we do know that they're beneficial. Well, you've definitely challenged, like, I remember, I remember when you were promoting the type of protein

that had what was it called? The finger nail, bone or... Oh, collagen. Yeah, collagen. Like, I was like, what? Ugh. Yeah. But I kind of get it now.

It's like you're just, you're exposing yourself to things that like if, say, you're, you know, trying to survive and you're eating, you know, everything you can that's available, you know, that's something that your body would have, you know, assimilated. Do you guys have supplements that for you, you feel that you take because you need it in particular? Is there anything that you ever supplement with?

Like for myself, I'll use myself as an example. I supplement pretty regularly with a Cylium husk fiber. So the Cylium husk is what you'd find like metamuseel or you'll see them on the things like, like for a healthy colon or to help you poop or whatever like that. I don't use them for that, for those particular reasons, but as you guys know, and as a listener's,

you know, no, now I'm probably sick of hearing, that I've had, you know, things like irritable bowel syndrome with, you know, issues in my gut, and Cylium husk is something that helps make a big difference for me. So for me, that's a supplement I take out of a need that I take on a regular basis. Not something that I would recommend to everybody,

but something works for me. No, I really don't have. Is there like, how about this? Is there a food, like a go-to food that you have for when you're not feeling good or like, I need to eat this, this makes me feel good. Well, I do notice. I do notice.

I do notice a difference when my body's been lacking like a lot of my veggies and fruits. So if I- What do you notice? You know, I can tell a difference when my body's been lacking like a lot of my veggies and fruits. What do you notice? You know, I can tell a difference in my energy levels. I can tell a difference in my skin. I feel like I'm eating more of carbs and other calories. Like my pastas and breads types of things like that that in my diet.

So I notice below from that. I feel like I'd lack like that. I notice inflammation going on. So a lot like I'm like that. I notice inflammation going on. So a lot of those things start to kind of balance out when I try and focus on getting more greens, especially my greens and stuff. Because that for me, that's the easy one to miss. I'm pretty good about my fruits. I do always, you know, the beginning of the week. And the way we do our fruit, so like we'll, like Katrina and I will do bananas, kiwi, strawberry, blueberries, blackberries,

and we kind of put it, we put it all in a one huge tub where and then I'll just eat like servings of that throughout the day. When we do that, like I notice a difference, you know? Like I can tell a big difference on my energy levels. I do know too that like, when I, if I cut back on I had to watch what I do with my caffeine intake too because I take a lot of caffeine through coffee and I like energy drinks so I noticed that affects me so I got to watch my balance on that. So there's things like that that I'm

careful of. I just now started dabbling with the kombucha. Can't butchah. Yeah, yeah, so you like it? So yeah, no, I'm only on my first week of I think that's that kombucha. Yeah, I think so. But I'm actually a really big fan because I mean, it's got probiotics in it and it has anti-inflammatory properties which I was already supplementing Omega-3s in there.

So now I've been trying to just get an habit of drinking one of those a day to see how I feel. Have you noticed anything? Yeah, no, so far great. I don't like to hype anything up when it's the beginning when I've only been doing it for like a week, but so far, so good. So far, I feel really good this week as far as inflammation goes.

I don't got any gut issues going on or anything like that. How's your poop? Pooke looks great. Looks excellent. I'll take a picture. Take a picture, please. You get the snake, let us see it. You know what I discovered today? What?

I cut up an apple and put peanut butter on it. Never done that before. Really? I know. You're just new to this? I have you done it with like cinnamon? So much better. Fuck you.

Cinnamon and peanut butter? No, all of that. Oh shit. shit so good for the first time in my life I put peanut butter on an apple. Yeah, that's so fun and it was delicious Bro, that's what kept me going through my old transformation. It's like oh I used to sit down with an apple and then a little knife that you can carve with your thumb and just carve slivers off and dip in the peanut butter. Yeah. I was going to say, we kind of go in a similar cycle as you, Adam, but one thing that we used to do and we're going to do it again is this farmed fresh array of vegetables and

stuff like that that we get delivered. Oh, the delivery. The delivery service. Always outside over here trying to sell a ship. So yeah, well, we get one from a local farm and we just, we just a lot of times we'll either cook it or we'll wind up blending it and I'll make like these like kale, rougula, whatever shakes out of it. And just just so that way we at least can consume it because it's hard to, whatever shakes out of it. And just so that way, we at least can consume it

because it's hard to get through a lot of it. But it's noticeably different as far as like how I feel when I do that. Could you imagine the difference? It's great. If everybody that took supplements, instead of taking supplements for a fat loss or muscle building goal, took supplements for health.

Could you imagine the difference? If everybody's goal instead of having in their mind, because you would perform better too. Whoa. Right, instead of in their mind of them thinking, I need to get burnt fat, I need a fat burner, I need to build muscle, I need a muscle builder. What do I need to be healthy?

Right, imagine the difference. You know what the difference would be? People would be leaner and more muscular. Yeah. I mean, crazy as it sounds, that's exactly what would inside. People would be leaner and more muscular. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, crazy as it sounds, that's exactly what would happen. And that's exactly what we're trying to do. We're trying to meld the two of them, right?

Yeah. For some reason, we got separated a long time. We got, it's funny. I did a post on Instagram today talking about that. And it got a huge response because I think it's striking a nerve with people because fitness doesn't, is not synonymous with healthy anymore and it should be. Well, what's interesting to me too is that this makes so much sense because I've always been a big follower of functional medicine practice and what they did with that. Just identifying

the environment of which you're getting your nutrients from and all these kinds of things, all these variables that come into play as far as your overall health and not just a prescriptive answer as far as, okay, we'll take this pill and if these side effects happen, maybe you want to take this pill on top of that pill, it's more of a, you know, like what are your daily habitual things that are contributing to this, you know, the cause of whatever this issue is, and it going on your body. You know, it's another supplement that I recommend a lot to people. Camelmill. Camelmill T.

One of the... Camelmill T. One of the, do you drink it at night? Not always, but that's why I bought it. One of the best, most, very mild kind of sedative relaxes the body, it's good for you. It's so healthy, in fact, that in Europe, doctors will tell parents to give it to their children

to help them sleep or their babies if they have calic, because it helps with gut issues. I recommend it to people all the time, even if you don't have sleep problems, you know, and you just want to sleep and have more restful sleep. Well, I'm not know, green tea is a must. Green tea during the day is amazing. Then if you're gonna get up, you get camel toe coffee.

Yeah, camel toe coffee. Anybody? Yeah, a kill. Meat hawk. Well, I'm glad I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad. Just don't talk about Justin up here. Tantide. Hold on. Take my dick at your mouth. Yeah.

That's bad. That's bad. No, no, no, leave it in there. I can still talk. Oh, this episode got serious. I had to throw in some I had to throw in some dick. It's like a tooth thing. This is what Mind Pump does. We get serious and then someone randomly throws a dick in the pile. That's it. You know what I'm serious. We get serious and then someone randomly throws a dick in the pile. That's it.

Here's your dick. Stop it down. So I'm glad we did this because I feel like we were starting to get the stigma around us that we're like, we're super anti-supplements. We're just anti-supplements. They were anti-supplements. We're anti-supplement industry and the how they push it.

I think you said it best right there is if you would start, if you want to burn fat, you want to build muscle, switch your way of thinking of looking for a supplement that promotes that's what it does, and start looking at your diet and where you're lacking and trying to get yourself healthier. And if you need help with supplements to do that, then by all means, just like we said,

if you're lacking in your Omega 3s and that would be a great supplement to get you healthier, in turn, that's gonna help you build more muscle, build more fat. You need more energy. Look into the factor. You're getting a lot of your greens and your vitamins and minerals from your fruits

and vegetables. Are you not getting that stuff? Then maybe we supplement something, but assess your eating and your eating habits first, and try and, if you're going to supplement at all, what you should strive not to, but if you're going to, you're supplementing what you're lacking to be healthy. Supplement your needs. Absolutely.

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