Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1836: How to Use Mini-Cuts & Mini-Bulks for Fat Loss & Muscle Gain, Ways to Improve the Mind-Muscle Connection, How to Build Maximal Strength & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: If you are not getting results and feeling crappy, STOP GUESSING, TEST! (3:46) Joovv x Under Armour. (33:16) How Aurelius wants to lift like Dad. (38:57) Mark Cuban versus Big Pharma. (46:31) One win in a world of corrupt politicians and the unintended consequences of certain policies. (50:53) Females love Caldera too! (59:30) #ListenerLive question #1 - Would it be better to bulk or cut first if I am trying to build muscle and lean out? (1:01:30) #ListenerLive question #2 - After running through MAPS Powerlift, would it be beneficial to run through it again to put up bigger numbers on the bar? (1:07:15) #ListenerLive question #3 - How can I adjust my training to a gym with no squat racks/barbells/platforms for deadlifting during the first year or two of surgical residency, and still maintain squatting/deadlifting skills? (1:16:55) #ListenerLive question #4 - What would be your approach to fight this "mind-muscle-connection-imbalance?” (1:23:53) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** Father’s Day Special: Free Shipping on all apparel and equipment for $150.00 or more 6/10-6/24 June Promotion: Shredded Summer Bundle or MAPS HIIT 50% off! **Promo code JUNE50 at checkout** MP Holistic Health Equi.life is offering all Mind Pump listeners an at home Minerals & Metals At-Home Lab Test for 50% off! Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum MP Hormones Under Armour Performance Team Uses Red Light Therapy - Joovv Epigenetics and Child Development Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin recalled Tesla May Start Mining Lithium as Musk Cites Battery Metal Cost Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Advantages of Mini-Cuts & Mini-Bulks Vs. Longer Traditional Ones MAPS Symmetry MAPS Powerlift MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral)  Instagram Mark Cuban (@mcuban)  Instagram

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And for Facebook, we have Kyle Cole, Ryan Johnson, and Brittany O'Brien. All of you are winners in the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. All right, look, check this out. If you're not getting results, if you feel crappy, you're trying to wonder what's going

on, stop guessing. Test. Test yourself. Blood tests. Get tests with your hair. Find out what the root causes you can solve some of these issues. Objective data. Yes.

You know, I see so many, I do this, I'm also guilty of this as well. Where I'm like, I think it's this, I think it's that. And you throw different things at yourself and never really figure out what the hell's going on. When all you really need to do is a simple, you know, you can get, for example, we did the hair test with Dr. Cabral

and he saw that we had some heavy metals that were a little high, you know, Adam's magnesium was a little low. My copper intake was a little low, and it's like, I know exactly what to do now, to make myself feel better. It's right here, it's all the same. It's empowering, I mean, it's, you're educating yourself

about how, you know, the root of a lot of symptoms that you may be experiencing, you can get to that point. If you do the work of like actually, you know, taking the steps to take those tests and sift through all that data. Also on the hormonal level too, right? So I remember when I first met Katrina,

I thought this was really interesting that her mom had made all their kids before they turned 30 years old, get all their hormones tested. That was a baseline. Yes. And I thought that was really, and at that time I didn't make that much sense to me. I'm like, why, you guys are all healthier, fine.

And you would think I would know better as a trainer and stuff. But now, all my experience with HRT and obviously getting tested on a very regular basis, now I get it, right? And I remember when I first talked to the first hormone therapist and they were telling me, like, you know, everyone's so it, right? And I remember when I first talked to the first hormone therapist and they were telling me like, you know, everyone's so, so different, right?

There's a huge range when it comes to what's considered healthier or unhealthy. And so, you know, if you're used to running in the, you know, if you're in your whole 20s growing up and maybe even early 30s, you were in the higher range of what would, it would be the healthy range, right? And that gets cut in half, but you're still considered in the, you know, healthy range or in range. Yeah, in a range, you're not considered unhealthy, but you might be getting a lot of the other symptoms from, like low testosterone, for example, and it may be because your testosterone levels have been cut in half, and for you, you can feel the difference of what cut in half feels like,

but a regular general practitioner will not see that as a red flag. They'll do like a normal blood work on you. They won't see that as like, you know, dangerously low and they'll just disregard it and move on. So getting your hormones tested when you're young and you feel healthy, which is not what you think to do because you're young and healthy. So you don't think you can do this. Nothing wrong with me. Yeah, I think it's really smart.

I thought that was really good advice that she had her kids do that. So they have a baseline as they age, they get into 35, 40, and 15 now, some of her kids, can now go back and be like, this is what, when I felt most optimal, this is what is normal for me and then have somebody help balance out.

Oh, I mean, completely. You know, this even goes to like tracking your food felt most optimal, and this is what is normal for me, and then have somebody help balance now. Oh, I mean, completely. This even goes to tracking your food or doing an elimination diet. You're trying to figure out and guess why your digestion is off, or you're trying to figure out why am I not losing body fat, and you're kind of guessing along the way. Having objective data, because when we guess we're often wrong, we have a lot of our own subjective opinions, and you know, you could feel,

you could feel like crap, because you have this particular nutrient deficiency and this nutrient deficiency, or one or the other, and you think it's one, but it's not. Or you could feel like crap, because you have too much of a nutrient. Like, vitamin D is a good example, right? Vitamin D is often talked about as being something that people are often low in.

And let's say you have too much vitamin D and you're kind of feeling crappy and you think, oh, most people are low on vitamin D, I need to supplement with it. You could be causing a dangerous situation. You know, people did this with calcium. I remember in the 90s, you know,, it was like this big push to take calcium because of osteoporosis. By the way, that doesn't help. Unless you have a calcium deficiency,

it's not gonna build any stronger bones, especially if you're not telling your body to build stronger bones. But nonetheless, lots of people in particular women supplemented with calcium. As a result, they had calcium levels that were too high in these people. And you got calcium deposits that caused

Heart issues. So actually made their health much worse and the cool thing is you could get all this testing for example If you get the hormone a hormone panel done It's relatively inexpensive to do hormone panel have a doctor who's an expert at this look at it and You do you connect it to your energy your your symptoms, your lifestyle, and then you can see, okay, maybe things aren't at a range, but let's see what I can change my lifestyle, and what moves up and what moves down. Or maybe, and this is really cool, you get the reading back and you go, oh my God, like that's, doesn't look right.

If I just solve that issue right there, I'm gonna feel so much better. Same thing with blood tests and the hair tests, like the ones that we did, stool samples, for example, you could tell you quite a bit about your gut. All of these objective tests can tell you, and I can't tell you everything,

but when you combine those with your subjective experience, you have a roadmap. Otherwise, it's a lot of guessing and trial and error. Not only that, I'm glad you went this way with a fitness tip because we get a lot of questions about supplementation. I think I just sent you guys one that a bunch of people sent me over on the HMB and we brought that up.

Of course, we talk about creatine. We get people asking about fat loss stuff. There's the empty sterone and one of the other ones that people, I mean, we get asked questions all the time about muscle building and fat loss supplements and what's better for this or how much should I take of that. And the truth is, before I would even explore, you know, urgent supplements like that, I would first look into balancing out what my body needs, no matter what my goal is, whether your goal is to build muscle or burn body fat or just longevity and health, any one of those, before I go take a performance type of supplement,

I would much rather go get tested and find out, where do I have potential deficiencies and supplement what my body needs? And I think you'll get, I think you can make the case that you'll get as much or more benefits by balancing out what your body needs versus slapping on some. You perform way better when you're healthier, right?

And that's your baseline. So if you can bring up your baseline needs versus slapping on some. You perform way better when you're healthier. Right. And that's your baseline. So if you can bring up your baseline to a healthier homeostasis, now you add on performance on top of a healthier baseline, it's like the potential is even more great. Yeah, let me give you guys another example, right? If certain B vitamins are too low, one of the symptoms could be neurological effects, neuropathy, like pain in your extremities, tingling, you could get these kind of strange neurological effects.

The side effect of B vitamins being way too high, let's say you mega dose, this wouldn't happen with eating food, but let's say you take B vitamins a lot and you take too many of them, side effects of that, neuropathy, neurological issues. I had a family member that's happened to. She was experiencing these strange, kind of neurological issues, couldn't figure out what was going on, was going online, researching,

and she's like, I need more B vitamins. So she upped her B vitamin intake, and kept doing this for like a year where she was freaking out, thought maybe she had MS or whatever. Anyway, went, finally got tested, and they're like, you need to stop supplementing with these B vitamins,

you're mega-dosing and that's probably what's causing the issue. She stopped supplementing. Oh, in a way. And it went away. But she suffered for a year doing the exact opposite of what she thought she was supposed to do. So, and this testing isn't that bad. I mean, for hundreds of dollars,

you could get these objective measures and then have targeted targeted like very targeted advice That could make a profound impact on how you feel like like Adam We found out your magnesium was low. Yeah, okay. It makes a big difference for you supplement Oh, that's that's okay. I would make the case is that Supplementing with magnesium is helping me build more muscle than any creatine or performance supplement.'ve ever taken in my life. Because of how much of an impact it's made on my sleep.

Because when I take that supplement, my night's rest is night and day difference versus when I wasn't taking any magnesium whatsoever. And we've all been talking about how important sleep is forever on this podcast for performance in the gym and recovery. So if that's being disrupted and I'm getting by, I still built muscle even when I wasn't taking it, sure I was fine. But now when I look at like how much better I feel when I'm taking that,

that's what I mean by I think supplementing for what you need, I think has so much more of a compounding effect on whatever your pursuit is, than taking this specific supplement that you heard is supposed to help you burn more body fat or it's supposed to help you build muscle. Yeah, another example would be, let's say you feel kind of weak and shaky. You have like kind of poor concentration and you read, oh, Ashwaganda, that's a great adaptogen that helps people feel better, it helps them with stress, it improves strength, the boost testosterone, all true. So let me start supplementing with it.

But you don't know, because you didn't do in testing, that the reason why you were feeling crappy was because you were producing too much thyroid. You had hyperthyroidism. You know what you don't want to take? When you're hyperthyroid, Ashwaganda. It could potentially make it worse. So these are just examples, you

know, that we're giving that it's really important that you go and you get that testing. And then you can really, because look, when it comes to workouts, I'm going to tell you something right now, I can design a good general workout. We obviously have, we've got maps, programs, lots of people like them. We've made so many of them so that there's a variety of programs that hopefully can suit most people. but does that even come close to a program that we could create when we meet an individual, train them, assess them, see how their body responds, change the workout on the fly based on how they feel.

Take inventory of all their variables, like yes. And on the training end of it too, and we're talking about testing and being objective, like that's another reason why we were so passionate about creating a test to go through in a protocol to see how much form and function and abilities you have going into this process. Or what you've done so far and how we can objectively measure where you are in terms of your range of motion, your control, and stability. And so that's always been an important factor for me.

And it was always something I would bring up within anybody's training program after a month, after a three months, after something that's, we've got to come back and take a look and objectively see where we've had success, where maybe we need to really like focus in on and improve. And so, you just have to look at that as like, we're not just winging it here.

We always have to take time to come back and reassess. Yeah, completely. And I know that the hold back for a lot of people on this is A, where do I go? My general practitioner, I bring this up and they're like, now you're fine. B, cost, C, going to the lab, doing the testing. I get all that.

So, and we've talked about this before, but what we did is we want, what we try to do is we try to lower the barrier so much so that more and more people have access to this kind of stuff. So, what we have is we created two free forums on Facebook. One is for holistic health. It's called NP holistic health and it's run by Dr. Stephen Cabral's team.

So there's some of the best in the industry when it comes to functional health and literally they'll go on there and do live Q&A's. They'll present different topics. You can ask questions and it's totally free. And this kind of access is like, you can't get anywhere. Sometimes you can't get this and pay for it. And then we have a forum called Mind Pump Hormones. That's all about hormones, hormone replacement therapy,

and testing for that also free. So if you're like, man, I don't know who would I go to, what do I do, who ask questions? I don't know if I'll go there, it's totally free. And then hopefully that'll direct you in the right way or answer questions for you that you normally wouldn't get answered. This is a valuable resource.

I mean, as a trainer, you get into a position where you're doing everything right. Like the workouts are going well, the nutrition's going well, but there's just something still that you haven't been able to unlock in terms of potential. And a lot of times, you know, it's in the hormone direction. It's in, you know, some of the deficiencies that you haven't really discovered within the testing part of it that you need to do. Well, this was inspired last year when, you know, every year we try and get outside of the business, right, or get away from the studio and work outside the business and really talk about big picture stuff.

It's something we always try and do every year is to evaluate our community and what we're doing and ways that we can add more value to the business. Of course, it's important that we're thinking about scaling and yes, it's important that we think about making money and other aspects that are important to growing up business, but also how can we already give back more to the community that we already have? And that was this. I mean, partnering up with Dr. Cabral and partnering up with Regenitive, to me, I think

covers some of the most broad questions that we get around those topics. And instead of us always trying to answer is seeking out, we always talk about this on the podcast about being mavens, right? We pride ourselves and we try and teach other coaches to be like this. Like, yeah, we have enough experience and knowledge to probably answer a lot of these questions, but why, when we could seek out some of the best

in the space that can be there for you and then partner up with them to be able to provide a service that you guys don't even have to pay for. Well, this is what I did as a trainer. So one of the most valuable things I did as a trainer that I didn't even go to it from a build my business perspective. I just had clients that were with me for years and years and years and I wanted to be better at being their coach, right, being their fitness coach.

And so what I did is I developed these relationships with experts in health and wellness in areas that I did not have expertise. And so I did have a hormone doctor that I, a local one that I would refer to. I did have functional medicine practitioners that I referred to. I also had movement specialists, like a physical therapist,

at a chiropractor, acupuncture, all that stuff. So when my clients would come to me and there was an issue that we couldn't solve through exercise and nutrition, through my expertise, and it was stubborn, like man, you know, your shoulder pain got better, but it's still there. Your movement looks good. It's hard for me to figure this out.

You know what, I have a friend who's a movement specialist. They know more than I do about this kind of stuff. Let me send you them. Or, you know, your energy still is low. You're getting good sleep. We cut out caffeine. We're eating rye. You're exercising.

And, you know, let's get your hormone panel done. Let's see what's going on there. Maybe your hormones are a lot for whatever. And I would send them to these people. And the value was massive because we would figure it out. And then they come to me, like, oh my God, Sal. I'm so happy you sent me to Sone. So it looks like my testosterone is out

or it looks like my growth hormone might be off or I have this food intolerance that I didn't identify before. So it made a huge difference. So these forms are basically an extension of that. I mean, we can't personal train everybody who listens to the show, obviously. But it's an extension of kind of what we did. I know you guys did the same thing. You guys had your attention as well. Well, and along those lines, okay, you've heard me on the podcast before, right,

for giving shit to trainers about not having prime and prime pro. This is the next thing you're going to hear me give you shit for. If you are a personal trainer and you call into this podcast, or you ask me a question in my deal, you're going to go easier than you. You're going to go easier than you. And you should have them. Shame them. And you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and you, and We did actually, I sent it to Doug. I have Doug Rita after this because she did respond after I responded to the people that were saying things to me about giving her a hard time. Like, would you mean me, really? Yeah, about being mean, about, oh, you don't know

where situation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff that, well, we'll read what the fuck she had to say after that. So we'll try and send a second. This is my next thing that you're gonna hear me. So if you're a trainer listening to this podcast and you are not in those free forums, okay, did not cost you anything The amount of information and knowledge that you're gonna get by just being a part of those forums is gonna make you 10 times better coach

I would kill to have access to those two forums and prime and prime pro as a coach and trainer that will separate you from So many coaches by having access. And I'm gonna understand. You will find you in your high one. I understand the prime, prime, because I know it costs money. Everybody wants everything to be free. Well, these forms are free. Okay, it's coming out of our pocket

to have this partnership and to work this out. So go in there if you're a trainer and you ask a question and you're not in there, I'm gonna be matched. So that episode, so this is so for people to know, young lady calls in, she's a college student trainer and asking us questions We're helping because we those live been listening for years listening for years Yeah, and Adam's like so, you know, do you have you know maps prime or prime pro?

Which is like no, I don't and he like just goes off on because he's like what do you do it? That's what you need if you're a trained people you believe for years Anyway, we got like a bunch of messages from people who are like, oh Adam. Oh, we've got emails We got the customer service team called me, what did you say on this podcast? Yeah. So we're angry. But she messages back and she said, she was appreciative. She said, you roasted me, but I needed it.

Thank you so much. Well, read it. What does it say, Doug? Can you read it from there? Yeah, Adam, I'm the trainer you roasted on the podcast for not having any maps programs. On summer break away from work now, so I've been diving into maps prime pro

and performance and I'm loving the content and can't wait to use them on some of my clients when I get back was catching up on the podcast and just listen to a guy say he bought the programs because he was scared. You'd give him heat for not having any which was actually hilarious. Glad I was able to take one for the team. So other PTs won't make the same mistake. Thanks so much for the programs and the tough love builds character. Yeah. Love her even more. I did have it back and forth with her afterwards. So I guess fake news. Appreciate you being a good sport and everything like that. Because it does come from a place to love. I know of course the sensitive people

because it was like it turned off, of course it turned into, you don't know a situation and the money and this and that. It wasn't a game tour for free, if you don't. I know, that was the other thing too. It's like, come on, it was not about the money for me. It's the point I'm trying to make. It's a very small investment for coaches and trainers and I can't stress enough how valuable it is.

I'm not saying that just because it puts freaking $10. You have two options with people. You have people with a filter and they'll tell you what they think you want to hear. And then you have Adam, a zero filter. That's what we love about. However, you know what he's thinking. You never guessing.

You're real, you fake right now. You know he knows there's no reading here. He comes. Yeah. No softness. I felt like, I mean, you guys agree or disagree, prime, prime pro, and now maybe these forums. How can I tell you, baby?

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I'd send them a person and then I talked to to them back and say, oh, they don't really want to work with me or this isn't really, they're not really working really well or not jiving. It was like trial and error. It took me a long, it took me 10 freaking years to develop my network. And then when I did, it was of course very valuable, but I wish I had a resource like this as a trainer. Well, you remember as a trainer too, you get get these, I mean, we just had a call recently of something that was a PCOS, right? That was just, that I'd never trained anybody without.

Here, I'm 20 years deep into this space, and I'd never trained anybody with that. Ironically, right after that question, it came in, Sal answered it, because he had experience in that. Ironically, Doug pulls up the MP holistic health forum, and one of the first questions that are in there asked Dr. Cabral is about PCOS.

Yeah. So it's like, I mean, I'm still using Cabral and Regenerative to reference because I don't have all the answers for that stuff. So there might go to when I- Well, there was a point. So when we first did the hormone forum, you know, lots of people went in and were asking questions, I thought, and I was so wrong on this and I'm so glad that I was corrected. I thought that if you went on hormone replacement therapy, so if you're a man, for example,

you use an example. If you're a man, you get tested testosterone's low, and you have symptoms of low testosterone, and you're trying to fix it through lifestyles, really not working for you. So you go on testosterone, that if you go on testosterone, that's it. You have to stay on forever, because now what you've done is you've ruined your body's ability even further to produce testosterone. False, that's not true. I was corrected by the doctors then,

they said, no, no, no, you can go off, you'll just go back to what you were before. But it's not gonna make you worse. It's not like you're all of a sudden now, you do it once and now you're on for the rest of your life. And then, you know, Dr. Todd explained to me the whole process, I was like, okay, that know, Dr. Todd explained to me the whole process. I was like, okay, that makes perfect sense.

Which by the way, this is different than when you hear bodybuilders say, I have to go on TRT because of the Annabelle steroids that I've used. The doses are very different. So some people are like, no, that's not true. I know a guy who took steroids and then in his 20s and had, no, no, no, they weren't using replacement levels. They were using, well, the other thing I didn't know, either that I learned with them too, was that I could still get pregnant taking because when I when we were

Huh, well, you know what I mean? Well, it is 20. We yeah, we isn't That's not what I meant by that We I mean you say we we get pregnant right right so it's a team effort right so I thought you know I thought because of all my steroid use in competing and then I came off of it because I was trying to get pregnant and they were the ones that told me, like, oh no, we can put you on replacement and still, you can still, absolutely.

We'll just run HCG with it. I didn't know you'd do that. So my knowledge of HCG usage, HCG usage was post cycle. So I would use HCG usage was post cycle. So I would use ACG after a post cycle of running antibiotics to try and get my natural hormone levels back up, but I didn't know you could run it in conjunction with an actual therapy dose. You know that they have.

And I just had, I told you know, my story recently of the, you know, my sperm came back and I have super sperm in case you're wondering. Oh wow, it told you know, my story recently of the, you know, my, my sperm came back and I have super sperm. In case you're, oh, there's a good, huh? Yeah, I don't know if we high five right now. Is that what we do? I don't want to touch those hands. Hey, we made a great, we made a great, but yeah,

yeah, Spider-Man. No, could you, could you, could you do, was actually the one you told, could you do, was the one that told me the news that and she's like, are you excited? Wait, do they give you like a, like, like, because I know you're competitive. Is there like a scale, like, where do I rank? Or is it just like a good, I'll ask. I wanna know, I think it's, I think it's, I'm just, I mean, I think it's like, volume, speed of your guys, like all those things.

I'm number, yeah, like I checked the box. I checked all the boxes, so I was good. Now, I don't, what I don't know is like, if they, I'll ask, because I am now, I don't like comparing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you a yeah, do you have a Justin Andrews in the file? You know for a 65 year old man, you would be in the upper 10% No, I don't know, but I mean I was good right so now we have And now did you guys know this with HCG? So here's some more stuff that I learned about it

So when you go on when a man goes on testosterone replacement therapy, they go on testosterone and their body then, of course, because it senses testosterone then stops producing its own and you've replaced your testosterone and you bring it in this optimal level. However, many hormone therapy facilities won't put you on HCG at the same time

because they think what's the difference. I know that our place often recommends that you also take HCG because your body stops making testosterone, it also stops making all these other upstream hormones like DHEA. It could stop producing that, it could stop making pregnant alone. Taking HCG makes everything more balanced along with your testosterone. So when you talk to man who go on testosterone replacement therapy and take a little HCG, they feel so much better. And it's because of that.

Interesting, right? It's super interesting. And I hope I'm explaining it right. If I'm not... To the forum. Yeah, the forum. That's why we have a little clueless. To check us there.

But yeah, really interesting, right? Yeah, no, it was too... Okay, I remember hearing about this way back when on like the body, but back to the, that's where my, my steroid knowledge came from, the steroid Bible and then bodybuilding. Oh, Dandu Keynes, but yeah. Bodybuilding for, which by the way, it's phenomenal.

I mean, it got me to where I was at, but I, at back then, there were people that were experimenting with HCG at the same time. And actually, I remember reading in the forums and a lot of the people got criticized. Oh, that's stupid. Wait, it's the time. Yeah actually, I remember reading the forums and a lot of people got criticized. Oh, that's stupid. Wait, it's the time. Yeah, we were saying it was a waste of money, waste of time, and a lot of people.

No, but it's the bro science. Yeah, I mean, that is. It's a great example of that. And I totally just discounted it as like, oh, that must be bullshit. Because so many people would call out someone that said they were using ACG with their stack. They would say that's stupid, it's pointless.

You got to be careful with that, with that bro science advice, especially in that because they're kamikaze with some of this stuff. Like, we brought this up yesterday. I don't think I've ever talked about that. I don't think I've ever talked about that. I don't think I've ever talked about that. There's a, there's a compound. And I'm almost like, should I bring this up?

Because I really don't want an idiot to hear what I'm up to say. And you're like, that's never school. Yeah, that's never school. It's not possible for that thought. This is literally the stupidest thing you could possibly do. But anyway, there's a chemical that is, I believe it's used in the process of making dynamite. Okay, so it's a chemical called DNP.

I don't know what the full name of it is. It's dynamite. And it's got this crazy thermogenic effect to where you take it. It ramps up your body temperature so much that you burn body fat. And apparently- Like a pound a day.

Like a pound a body, okay, now here's a deal. That's scary. Here's a deal. It will kill you too. It's actually one of the most dangerous things to take. Well, so, I actually, I feel- I'm so excited to see from the inside. Bro, it's actually still very popular

in the bodybuilding world. That's crazy. And I have friends that have taken it. Are you serious? Yeah, well, I have friends that have taken everything, right? That have like, they're just a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a? Well, I have friends that have taken everything, right? That have like, they're just a, a Kim walking chemistry set. They've tried everything out before.

And they've all confirmed that that was the scariest shit they ever mess with. They said it feels scary. Yeah, because apparently you take it and you get, and you lay in bed and you sweat your ass off. Yes, and you feel the same. It feels like you're like, like it, and then you can feel your heart racing

like crazy all day long. I mean, I've told, I think I shared a long time ago on the podcast when the first time that I tried Climb Uterall. And that was, which is like a baby Flintstone compared. And I took a little bit too much, that I read the milligram thing on there on the, you could carry the one or something like that. Yeah, so it was scary.

I mean, the whole day I it was it was scary. I mean it the whole the whole day I felt my my heart was racing all all and I took it early in the morning and I mean at even later that night I was so it's like a whole like 24 48 hours to actually feel it kind of where I read more about DNP Apparently, it's so powerful that you'll burn muscle to you'll burn shit off if you're not careful So this is what happened with my experience with computer. I leaned out so hard so fast. I mean, I just dropped a ton away. I lost muscle too. Like a significant amount because it was just,

and it was, it was, it was, it was, it's sped my my, now mind you, it was also the first time I'd ever cut really hard for a show. I also, everything is but the kitchen is here. So I did all those things and it just, I mean, it, I mean, I was shredded, but I also lost a lot of muscle and it was definitely scary in the last time I had it.

That's so wild. You know what's funny is when you look at the lifespan, not bodybuilders post 1970s, because then they started getting crazier, post 1980s. But if you look at bodybuilders of the 60s and 70s, they all live till they're like mid 70s, mid 80s, decent health until they finally pass away. And what it is, I look at that and I go,

well, I know they abuse steroids. They didn't not like they do, they did in the 80s, definitely not in the 90s. And who's the young? Just mainly testosterone, right? Well, they took a dianna ball and all this other stuff. But what it was, because they also worked out and they stayed lean.

So it's like, they did all this stuff that was bad, but then they also did all these other things. So they have like a, their lifespan matches the average American. You know what I mean? So that's crazy. I really feel like, you know, again, like everything else, like a pendulum swings, right?

I think that we'll come back because I think the 90s to early 2000s were really pushing the limits. Crazy. And I mean, even, and I'm guilty of that being a young 20 or all not knowing any better, do stuff. And something that I have learned during my, my journey of using anabolic is less is more sometimes. And not most of the time, like it takes very little amount for me to feel really good

and see great results from it and not have side effects. It's when you start pushing those boundaries that the side effects get worse. I didn't see as much results from it. I think, and I remember seeing that in the community when I was competing, just everybody was trying that, and this is to burn, this is to build, this is to recover, and you're just stacking all this stuff. Yeah, just adding, adding, adding. It's like, no, man, it's crazy. Just a little bit of this, and that's enough to keep those hormone levels optimal for building muscle, and you'll be blown away, which is why. That's why.

So I think the education around it is getting better. Well, it's an extreme sport. So I wouldn't expect them to go the health route anyway. We'll speak of recovery. So you guys know that like, Juve partnered up with 49ers. Yeah. And all that. And they have this incredible recovery

GM and everything for them with all the panels and stuff. I guess they partnered up too with under armor And so all of their under armor athletes and everything are you know set up with Jews and have been raven about Now how are they using the red light therapy like post training and press training-training, yeah, mainly for recovery purposes, like on top of everything else, with the norm attack, like boots and all that stuff. So, you know what's interesting about recovery tools, is oftentimes recovery tools, they help with recovery because they blunt inflammation,

which can help with recovery, but also can potentially blunt the muscle building recovery, the repair process, because inflammation is a good signal. Red light therapy is different. Red light therapy modulates inflammation, so it doesn't block it, but it will modulate it so that it's good. But what it does is it goes to the mitochondria of cells and it makes them operate faster and more efficiently and

better. Meaning you produce more ATP, which is muscle energy. That's what you get from a supplement creatine. Meaning you're going to get better protein synthesis. So it helps with recovery, but it doesn't blunt the muscle building signal. In fact, if anything, it raises it a little bit. So it's this really interesting muscle building recovery tool. Now the problem in the past with red light therapy is, it was at a reach for the consumer. Commercial models, you had cost you, you know, $15,000 you go to a salon and they would do it for your face or something like that. You have to use it regularly.

So really the only way to make it efficacious is to have one in your home, but then they were at a range and then now enter Juve. Obviously you can get a panel for way less than that, use it daily, and then you get good results. How do you guys want me to put it at the Utah House? I've got calls actually this week to do that. One of the things, originally, this was my idea, and I've actually just funny what you're bringing this up right now, because last night, I was like, you know, what? Maybe I'll do it this way instead. Originally, it was going to be set up like this. We're going to have the PRX in the garage, then we're going to have the cold

plunge, and then we're going to have the sauna inside there. All in there. All in the garage. Right. And then I was going to, you know, mount like three panels or like they were, I was talking with a kind of boxed in. Yeah. Like we're front and back or something like that. We're talking about building something so you can mount it like that. So that was the original idea that I thought, you know, will be kind of cool is, because it's a three, it's a three bedroom, is if each bedroom just had its own panel that was mounted on the wall with like a little,

you know, digital thing that tells you how to use it. I like that better. Yeah. So in the bedrooms or in the garage with all the other stuff, what do you think? You know what? What do you think of? Well, here's the thing, I like to use my panel naked.

So do I, that's why I, the bedroom. I think the bathroom or something like that. That's why I thought the bedroom, right? If we put them in everyone's individual bedroom, then my thought was, okay, cause originally I thought, oh, keep all this, like biohack stuff in the same area. You guys own the flakes naked?

It's havin' to me. I'm always worried about dropping something. Have you ever tried to do that? I did do that one. I have never lived in a way. Full of naked. Oh yeah, I didn't even know. No, you have never-

Did you really? I did. I kind of want to do it extra- Now that you say it, I kind of want to do it. No, I don't work out naked. That feels like dangerous. You know what I mean? Don't you feel like you hate someone?

Because you're bikini underwear and your viewaries are protecting your stuff. I mean, I can't let you just smashing things on you. You put a dumbbell in the back. Oh, you know? I don't know. No, dude. No, dude.

Yeah. No, like you were in a drag on the floor. Something to it. I can't squat as well. Yeah. It's fine. I can't break down. I can't hold your hold. I can't agree anymore. You're squat a lot. It's fine. I can't break down your vulnerable. I can't agree anymore.

You're squatting down. Somebody walks in, that's the most vulnerable. I'm okay, exactly. You're squatting naked. Well, you know, you do it when you're all alone. And you lived at home by yourself time. So I would have thought of all of us. You would be the most likely to do it.

I didn't know you. You know, you would be the most likely to, I didn't know you, were you doing that? You know, out of the forest? Because I was, no, in the forest here. You know, you could drink. You know you could go and take it to the forest all the time. I'm not a hippie dude, I'll say that right now, but I have definite tendencies of wood, woodsmann guy, right? But he carries his axe up there. No, I'm inspired that, which my wife will get,

like really embarrassed about this, but like we were like totally role-playing the thing. Because I used to train her. You know, it just... One thing led to another. I don't have any clothes on, right? This is how you do a pull-up. Yeah, it's like...

I'm like, hey, well, I might as well get some reps in. You ever see me do pull-ups without hands? I'm trying to do curls. Now I get it. I like wrong am I? I like them in the bedroom. Yeah, so that's exactly what I thought originally that I had set up the plan to be on the garage, but the more I thought about that like Doug's point, I like to do it either

right out of the shower or like in my like room naked. So it's like it makes sense. You're gonna do that. The girl. It also looks nice. It's kind of a nice piece. That's right. I mean, yeah, I think we'll have them customally mounted on there. I was even thinking of like I said about getting like these little, you know, we have the stands that can just like, vertically stand out. They do have those. I cool on the wall. The wall be cool. I've seen how I did it. My head. I do. I like this. I really liked how that's what I had somebody put like,, I like this one. I really liked how that stuff. That's what I had somebody put,

there was like a wood thing on top and bottom. That's what I think would look cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.

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Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. I was hanging out with Jessica yesterday and Aralius is playing with his toys or whatever and We're talking and I hear Aralius in the background going Like huh, so I turn around

Now Jessica has a 12 pound dumbbell in the living room because now that she's feeling better She's out of that first trimester. She's not puking all day long She's been you know here and there doing exercises throughout the day, getting her body back, ready to back into lifting. Yeah, full workouts. So there's a 12 pound dumbbell on the ground. It's one of those iron full metal ones or whatever. So I turn around and there's my 19-month old and he literally squatting down and with one hand, he's like trying to lift it. And he's like, and he's dragging it because he's actually starting to get it off the floor, but one hand.

And I turn around, I'm like, is he trying to lift the dumbbell? So without saying anything, I kind of walk over and I'm watching him and he's just going after it. So finally, I kind of stopped him and I said, hey buddy, I say you're trying to lift the dumbbell? And he goes,

he does that when he means, when he wants to say yes, he does his high pitch. Yeah, like that. So I said, okay, I said, do you want me to get a smaller dumbbell so that you could try lifting it better? Huh, okay, so I go in the garage and I get an eight pound dumbbell and I put it down and then I go, all right,

you gotta use two hands though, try using two hands. So is that any, like he squats down, does like this perfect deadlift, grabs it with two, I didn't teach him anything, okay? So if you watch this video, it looks like I'm not, nothing. He grabs it, but genetics. He stands up with it and he stands up with it, and he's like, so proud. Walking around with this, he'd say, pound dumbbells. Then he walks over the 12 pound dumbbell,

and he points to it, and I said, no, I think it's too heavy. And he grabbed my leg, and he's like, pushing me towards it. Said, all right, you want to try 12? Put the 12 down. He lifts it up. I'm like, this kid, I mean, is he like doing this on his own? This is great. I wonder where he gets that from.

Oh my God, I think when he watches his mom, I think try to exercise or whatever. But he does that throughout the house. He'll try to lift things. You guys saw when he was pushing. He's pushing heavy objects. Just take his favorite thing to do. And then lift thing, dude, he's a natural lifter.

Oh, did I ask you? I could have sworn that I read a study that said that, like for you sample, right? You're your boys, what, 15 years old, 16, what 16, 16, 16, 16. Oh Your boy is 15 years old, 16. 16, oh my oldest, yeah. 16 and when you had him, were you skinny? Were you already starting to get bigger? When I was a kid, yeah.

Oh, I mean, I was really skinny until I started working out. No, no, when you had him, when you, oh no, I've been working out. Oh, so you've been pretty big. Yeah. Okay, so maybe. You think about epigenetics?

Yeah, so I read an article that, it was an article or a study, I can't remember which one it was, but I remember asking you about it, and I can't remember what you said. But that you, you, like, or like using me, for example, like I'm definitely way bigger today than I was in my 20s

that I would pass more of the more of your characteristics like in that moment. Yeah. I think it has your passing on. I think it has more to do with his mom. Like Jessica has, she's got like, well no, no, no, I'm not saying that explains a really serious strength. I mean, obviously I think that has a lot to do with her.

But I'm saying, do you think that makes it, has a factor? Do you think it's true? It is. The studies you show that. Yes. I don't think it's everything, right? Of course not.

But it definitely plays a role in, like they show this with obesity, they show this with stress adaptation. Like if you're in a very stressed environment while you're pregnant, then you have a, the baby tends to have a heightened stress response. Yeah, when they're born. Like as if their bodies in the womb are adapting to the potential environment. Right. That they're going to be born them up for success in that environment.

Yeah, but I mean, obviously it doesn't explain everything because then there's also just your genetics in general and how big of a role those play. And like I said, Jessica's got, she's got these really crazy muscle building, body building, kind of genetics that she didn't realize until she was in her 20s when she started traveling with the circus and she would climb the silks and stuff

and she just built crazy muscles. That's, she's got that, I don't. My mind is all grinding hard works since I was a kid. Consistent. Hers is like, she works out a little bit and she gains muscle and it's like, okay. Well, there you go. Good stuff.

It just makes me wonder if I would have had Max when I was 20 versus having max now in I'm 40 like if he got better better genetics of mine being older than if I when I was you know, he's got this Caves but that's not for me right? That's definitely not for me. It's not your cows. He's not he's definitely like your Your son is like stocky and thick. Like Max's, Max is not that thick, but he's also not like, I was a Lanky. I was even at his age. Yeah, even at his age, you could see that I was,

I was, he's definitely more solid. You know what's interesting? Two kids change a lot from when they're little, little. Right. So like, so who knows? Right, I know. Like in the next four or five years, we'll have a better idea.

Yeah, and then when they go through puberty, like how does that change? And it's interesting, the personality. Because I feel like, I feel like Domenico looks just like what you probably look like. Very, he looks like exactly like I look like. When I see him walking around, like, it's just where you're built.

Yeah, it's posture, the way, I don't know, he just, I feel like, man, I move just like that. I look just like that, you know? Yeah, I know, that's definitely closer to how I was. And he's got a lot of some of my personality traits, some of his moms too. It is interesting to see some of the traits that come out. And you know what's funny is sometimes you'll see traits

that you didn't realize, for example, orraileous likes if we has a plate of food. So, just can I eat very differently when we eat? If I have a plate of food, I eat, I eat, I eat sectional, so I'll eat all my meat, then I'll eat some of this, all of this, then I'll eat all of that, it's like an order. I don't mix.

Jessica goes, buy to this, buy to this, buy to this, and she goes in a circle, or she'll put them all on the same fork, and we always make fun of each other. She sees me as I'm weird, I say, she's weird, whatever. Aralius, he has to eat one of each in a row. He will not eat one and then finish one and then eat the next one.

So he like, little meat, rice, vegetables, like his mom. Yeah, just like her, I'm like, I don't know, that was an inheritable thing. That's so weird. I think there's a lot that's inheritable. Yeah, there's a lot, let me speak as it reminds me of when we were at the restaurant in,

I always like, you guys make fun of me all the time for like drawing, doodling, you know, like whatever. Just inappropriate shit, right? Yeah. And I just loved doing that. And like, it just naturally so, ever it was like writing some word or whatever had to o's in it. And then he decided to turn those into boobs and

put like two devils in the inside and then so naturally I'm like, oh wow, I'll do you one better than that. So I write a like boob with like B-O-O-B and do two side boobs and Courtney is like, what are you doing? I'm like, what? This is hilarious. And also he was already doing it anyways. Like I'm just showing him, you know, giving him more ammo. So he shows friends that have a laugh. You know, it's like, dude, who cares? It's like, it's like harmless, funny shit.

Yeah, then you do trouble for it, dude. Dad's getting trouble for shit. I can't trouble what time do you do. I got to tell you what, my dad got in trouble because he got it, him and my brother, got it taken for racing each other on the freeway. My mom's like, what? You raced your teenage son on the freeway?

Yeah, like what kind of an example you're sending, you know? My dad's like, oh, you know, it's okay, we're fine. I know, baby. Oh my gosh. Sometimes you get tested. Yeah, just terrible. I really, that's an Instagram waiting to happen right there. The dumb things dads do.

Oh, thank you. We do the worst stuff and so bad. Anyway, so what's this thing with Mark Cuban's pharmaceutical? Oh yeah, did you guys see this? So I'm gonna call it out. So he started a pharmaceutical company. Now, how is he? Okay, so.

I don't know how, okay, he has, it's not a pharma company. It's a company that sells pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, it's actually competing with pharmaceutical companies. He's got over a hundred of the most popular drugs that he's selling on there.

All generic, right? Yeah, all generic that are like, if 15% mark, I don't know, you could do this. Now, I thought it was so regulated, you couldn't do this. Now, how is he, I was just gonna ask, how is he getting around? Cause my idea is that he's allowing generic drugs to be imported to be sold

because the American market's so regulated. That's why a lot of people go online and we'll buy drugs from other countries, even though technically they're not supposed to, because they'll pay a quarter of the price. Is he doing something like that? So I know that almost all pharmaceutical drugs are a minimum of 100% markup.

And his big commitment is 15% margins. Oh, so he's just cutting the margins way down. Yeah. So how he's doing that? I don't know. I don't know if he has ways to produce himself. I don't know if he's importing and then cutting cause. I don't know if he's cutting out middlemen

and people, is he taking a hit initially? Oh, so look at him. His thing says, no middleman, no price. Oh, that's why. He's cutting the middleman out. Okay. But at him. His thing says, no middle man, no price. Oh, that's a huge job savings. He's cutting the middle man out. Okay. But how can he can do that? I don't know, he can do this.

It's called costplusdrugs.com, is that what it is? Yes. Wow. Huge though, right? That's interesting. Have you guys ever looked at the price of popular generic drugs in other countries versus here? It's, yeah.

Oh, I have it. It's cheap compared to here. Oh my god. Well, it doesn't even make sense. Well, isn't our country the only country that allows you to advertise on television for drugs? Yes. One of the only ones. And also we limit competition like three countries. And we limit competition like crazy. So you're stuck with having to pay these ridiculous prices. If it would they allowed it to be really competitive worldwide?

Yeah. Price, the drug prices would go way the hell down. I mean, you could buy generic drugs from like India, for example, at way reduced prices, then you would hear, now the argument is, oh, they're not regularly like they are here, or whatever, baloney, I think the FDA's got some definite value, but I think part of the role is to protect the interest of the pharmaceutical companies as well.

You look at the people who run the FDA, many of them were ex-executives of these massive pharmaceutical companies, and part of these regulations are, how can we maintain that? Are you reading about a Doug? Yeah, so there's a lot of generics, and the retail price is substantially lower than, I mean, what they're charging is substantially lower than what you can. Wait, that's why I said, all of them are marked. So your average drug, pharmaceutical drug is marked up over 100%. His commitment is 15%.

So he's just taking him and saying, we're not going to... I mean, this seems absolutely crazy. There's something I don't know how to pronounce it. I'm Matt and Ib. It's generic for Gleevec. Retail price is $2,500. There's something that for $14.40. Wow.

Are you kidding me? That's a big difference. No, there's kind of, there's, I know there's like, diabetic medications right now that are really, really expensive for diabetics to get a hold of, like outrageously priced. That should not be that expensive,

that has gone up in the life the last two or three years. You know, it's gonna be really weird, and this may happen in our lifetime. This may happen in our lifetime, I don't know, you could though. I thought there was so much regulation. I wanna look into it, because- Here's one that you recognize is Metformin.

Yeah. And it's normally retail prices, $20 a tablet, they're still on it for $3.90, $3.90. Yeah, that's a big, huge difference. So this may happen in our lifetimes, but if you look at the technology of 3D printing, at some point, they'll be able to 3D print drugs. Compounds, yeah.

So they'll take molecules or whatever, 3D print and create drugs out from real still need the organic material. That's it, to fill it with, right? Yeah. So you got your basic materials. Yeah. And you can turn it into,

but I feel like when that happens, that's gonna be crazy. Yeah, when that happens though, then they'll have like a charge of ridiculous amount for the code, you know, or for the blueprint. Yeah, good luck trying to maintain that, like regularly. Yeah, you're right. I mean, that'll be,

Yeah, download a movie for free if I don't mind. That'll be interesting. Some powers that B will step in and regulate or stop that. It's gonna get weird dude, cause 3D printing. Pelosi's husband can't even get in trouble for fucking being a drunk driver and hitting people dude. Oh my god. Don't give me started. Hey speaking of which, did you guys see this?

Everybody just like roll right past that. Crazy. Gavin News is giving me a little talk about it. Like just saw that and I was like, wow. Did you guys see the abuse of power privilege? Oh my gosh. Oh but hold on, there's a little bit of like, people. Did you guys see the abuse of power privilege? Oh my gosh. Oh, but hold on, there's a little bit of like, people are starting to get a little annoyed. You guys see in San Francisco, the district attorney?

Oh, so last night it was called, he got recalled in California. In California. What a big deal that is. That's a huge deal. San Francisco of all places. That is a huge, so, so, so, in the world of, he's a super, he's got super progressive crime policies. And the result of that is crime is exploded.

So basically it's like, you know, if you only steal, if you steal under this amount, I got that last night. Oh, dude, because crime is exploded over there. So I have family members that live there. This is true. This is true, not everywhere, but in a lot of parts of the city,

people leave their car windows down and their glove boxes open and empty and their trunks open. So people, so the normal smash windows. Bro, there's memes about it. It's so bad. That's so crazy. There's memes all over about it. It's so bad.

I just posted one of them. And it just, you know, like, visit San Francisco, beautiful here today. And it's a shot of the Golgate bridge, but it's a shot from the back of the car looking through a broken window. No, no. Yeah.

No. Well, they recalled them. Wow. Wow. That's a big deal. It is a very big deal. Well, they have to live there. That's a thing. A lot of these ideas and these progressive ways of thinking,

it's like, it sounds good, but do you actually live there and live through these policies? Yeah. Like, these people that live through it. It's hell, dude. When was the last time a Democrat was recalled in California? Oh, wow. We did.

Remember, we did here with when Schwarzenegger won. That was a long time ago, though. What was his name? He was recalled. Was it Gray Davis? Gray Davis? Yeah. Remember, we had all his rolling blackouts.

And by the way, our power grids still sucks. Yeah. You know, it's funny. Still shudder. I'm going to go a little segue here. California has pushing these policies to get rid of gas-powered cars. Everybody has an electric car.

I don't know how our electric grid's gonna support that. We already have rolling blackouts when it gets too hot. So everybody's gonna have a car, they're gonna plug into their house. I have so many gas-powered engines now at my house. You're a genius. It can be like extinct here. I'm just like horny again.

Yes. It's gonna be the biggest polluter ever. Shit. Well, you know what, actually, gonna be the biggest polluter ever. Shit. Well, you know what actually one of the biggest things that they say is that it's gonna drive a car. The biggest challenges with electric cars just in general is the like the raw materials for the, I mean, the minerals and stuff.

The minerals and stuff. The US is we only have like one or two mines in the entire US. That's why 80% of it comes from China. That's why Elon said that Tesla is gonna get into the mining business Yeah, the mining business and even when he does though, it's still good. We're gonna still be hey look I'll tell you what I was skeptical

But I'm I'm very I like the direction that it's going competitions ramping up and these electric cars are becoming less and less expensive More and more available charging stations are popping up. So I think this is a great thing. I didn't know I didn't know that His patents he he what's it called not outsource, but he like basically opened it up for anybody to be able to Open API. Yeah, yeah, that's that's insane. No, no other companies really do that. He's getting with that intention right He did it to create that was like his mission with Tesla was to create competition in that space to force all of Them like GM and then to start doing that which is exactly it's gonna be better for everybody if we have more electric cars That was his top process, which is really no all joking aside. I think now you can hear I Know what I wonder I wonder if they're gonna make the complaint. I wonder I mean the bad way to hear

I wonder if they're gonna make the complaint. I wonder if they're the bad way. Look at here. Whoa, I'm gonna miss that sound, dude. You know, I was wondering about that. I wonder if they are gonna add like sound effects. I was just gonna say. They already do. So you already do like in cars,

I know the hard-to-sific type R does this. So in so many cars, it does such a good job of like bringing down noise pollution and stuff like that They pipe it through the speakers that people that have high performance cars that you buy it if you buy a type R You you want like a race car fuel and sound So one of the biggest complaints was when they they damped the sound down they feel like this So then they they pump it through the speakers. Yeah, that's artificial. So when you're driving Two stupid it's still I don't know how I feel about it So when you're driving That's hilarious. You have to be careful. You're not wanting that.

I know, it's stupid. It's still, I don't know how I feel about it. Well, because also like that whole thing, we're an electric car like backs up. I don't hear it. I've almost been hit a few times by these people. I actually, I didn't tell you guys this. Someone almost hit my Camaro this weekend.

So I took my, I was cruising the Camaro down the coast. And it was a Tesla. And so a car, I'm in the, it was a two lane. I'm heading back home in my house. And I already have, I don't have the best, you know, those cars you can't see very well out of the back, the rear and the mirrors are so small and stuff. But I had a car, hit their brakes pretty hard and was turning. And so I moved into the left lane to go around them and then was coming from just to go around

and they moved right back in. In the time that I was going around them, some asshole behind me that's in a Tesla thought it'd be probably cool to like smash on it and try and pass me on the right when I was just naturally coming back in the lane. And when I looked over my shoulder, he was swirving and he just barely missed my rear end

and went around to the left of me. I didn't hear him. And it was because I didn't see him at one, I didn't think someone, but if you had a normal car engine, I would have heard you getting on it from on that side before I moved in, and it would have caused me to look back again

or not move over, but because it was a Tesla, I didn't hear it, and he was getting on it. No, I think it's great so long as it's done through markets and competition, but when they pass these policies, there's a lot of unintended consequences. And I mean, the one I said, it's really,

what really happened, if California does go through with some of their laws and no more gas-powered cars after I don't know what it was, 2035, if they don't fix our power grid, we're fine. No, bro, that's coming in the next year too. We're gonna be screwed. It's like 2025, I think, look at this up to, I think GM, I think GM, that's coming in the next year too. We're gonna be screwed. It's like 2025, I think. Look at this, I think GM, I think GM,

that's part of why the whole reason why I wanted the Cadillac CT5. It's the, it's going to be the last V8. It's the last of its breed. Yeah, supercharged engine that I think GM makes. Would you look up when is GM stopped making gas powered engines? I think they, I think they signed a commitment

to 2025, dude. Wow. I think that's what I read. I mean, look, it's, I, again, it's all good, but we got to be careful with the unintended consequences of the price. 2035. Oh, it was 2035. You're right. My bad. Not again. This is why you giving them my blood out of the kitchen. Gave a layup right there. No, but I mean, again, like, okay, look, as it warms up, do you guys get your loser power? It happens all the time here.

It's like, what's going on? And the dude is rolling blackouts? I don't know how they think of the support of the electric vehicles. Do you know it's also a hustle that I remember when the generator guy got, people got in trouble for reselling generators. I was gonna do this a couple of years ago

because every year in July, which we're coming up on, in San Jose, like ACs go down. And if your AC goes down in July in the Bay Area, you are not gonna be able to get a fix for at least like two weeks because everybody's getting repaired. And then on top of that, if you go down to Home Depot or so that

and you wanna get like a window AC that you plug into what's down, sold out everywhere. And so every year I tell Patrina this like, I'm gonna buy one. I'm gonna buy one in Flipets selling for like two, three times a price. But remember that when the blackouts happened,

I sold my generator for a lot. A guy got, didn't guy go to jail for that? Oh. Remember that? Oh, for like a hoarding? Yeah, like he wouldn't buy a bunch of them up and he was doing exactly that with the generators and they, they busted them.

I don't know what the law is on that, why can't you do that? It's called price gouging. And in some cases it makes sense in other cases it doesn't because what happens is if you don't allow manufacturers to raise the price based off of demand, you just end up with shortages. Or like what happened with toilet paper during the pandemic.

During the pandemic what they should have done was raise it through the roof. It's allowed toilet paper prices to rise. Instead, what they did is you can only buy four rolls. We gotta ration it. Right? It doesn't work that way, but if you raise the price, what happens is

then manufacturers, suppliers, get the signal, Charmin goes, oh shit. We gotta put it for. Yeah, let's make more because it's the prices are able to go up. Plus, I get afford to take that risk of all of a sudden producing way more. Because the price. Yeah, because they made more because the prices are able to go up. Plus, they can afford to take that risk of all of a sudden producing way more. Because the price.

Yeah, because they made more money off of the price. You actually get more producers and more. But you know, that's a problem with that. That doesn't fit the narrative, right? That's just separating this creating more of a wealth gap than just a rich can afford to other paper now. Now, the poor have to wipe with their hand. No, that's not fair.

Rich people wipe with their dollars. These do. With their hundreds. Stupid. Go get the hundreds of random things. That's stupid, you know? Get the hundreds random. That's why though, I mean, that's the messaging. So it's like, that's not fair. Yeah, anyway.

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And the context is, I'm 28 years old, been consistently lifting for probably 10 years, six foot seven, 250 pounds. And, you know, I've done successful bulks and cuts in the past. And I kind of get the mind fuck right where when I'm cutting, you feel smaller and weaker, but you look at what you're sure to offer when you're bulking, you feel strong in the gym, but you kind of get the man and get in shubbie. And so my question is basically, from this point where I'm at, is it preferable or easier to try to bulk up, get to a weight and size that I really like, and then lean down while preserving muscle, or lean out first, get shredded, and try to bulk from there while keeping

a low body fat percentage. Okay. We need a little bit more. By the way, you're a big dude. 6, 7, 250. We do need a little bit more, but I could tell you it's going to be bulk first in cut. Yeah. But do you know how many calories you're eating a day right now, Thomas? Yeah. So it depends when I go through cuts. I'm usually at like 3,200. If I'm bulking, I'm a closer to 4,000. Okay. You know what? I like what Adam said, but there's no reason why you can't do mini-cuts and mini-bulks. So if you're trying to build like lean body mass, minimize fat gain, there's no reason why you can't do like a three week mini-bulk followed by, I don't know, a two

week or one and a half week mini-cut If you want to train towards building, if you want to train towards getting leaner, you can kind of reverse that a little bit. Go three to two or three to one. I love three one right here. Three, three weeks of bulking followed by a week of cutting, three weeks of bulking, followed by one week cutting. And it's a small, small surplus, small, kind of small deficit all while having really good exercise programming.

But the bulk obviously outweighs the cut because it's three weeks versus one. But just like that, and just keep it nice and consistent and focus on your workout programming. And what you should see with that is a nice, some nice consistent lean body mass gains with minimal fat gain.

And if anything, if you do this right, you may actually get yourself a little leaner. I think you'll get leaner. If you do this right, you'll lean out. If you don't go true dramatic on the swings, right? So when you go to your, and for your size, 67250, I think fourth, I mean, obviously I don't know exactly where your metabolism's at and your activity,

but 4,000 calories is a good healthy amount of calories. It's not crazy, definitely not for your size. So 4,000 calories when you're bulking and then when you're cutting around 3,000 is not bad. And so, and doing the 3,1 like that I think would be great. Are you following what's your program? Which programs have you have you done as far as yet? I've got pretty much all of them. I think the only ones I don't have are power lift in the new symmetry. So I actually actually started running anabolic probably a year and a half ago, I was like 230.

And I've worked up to 250. And I think I'm around 10 or 11% body fat. So I stayed pretty lean doing it. But I kind of just cycle through different math programs. Okay. Dude, you're a unit, 67 to 50, 10% 11% body fat. I did. Holy cow.

Yeah, math's not a ballac really worth it. Hey, it's all the mind from I would appreciate that genetic factor. You were six foot when you started you got to be in seven inches of high. You know, Thomas Thomas, I'm going to send you map symmetry because I really it's one of our most valuable programs by far. Okay. One of our most value and you've been working out for a

little while. big dude. You've got a lot of muscle on you. I think you'll notice some imbalances and after symmetry, you're going back to a program like anabolic or aesthetic, it's like you'll feel a heat difference. Yeah. So I've never really done the isotrene stuff. That'll be awesome. Oh, yeah, it's only the first two weeks after that's a lot of unilateral training, but then

you finish off with five by five. Yeah, and I think you'll really like the way you feel afterwards. Well, hey, I love it. Three weeks, book one week cut and then kind of run symmetry as soon as I finish strong here, that'll be awesome. Exactly, perfect.

Yeah, thanks, man. Thanks for calling in. Hey, thank you guys. Awesome to talk to you. Thanks for all you do. You got it. Thanks, Thomas. Yeah, that mini-cut mini-bulk, you know,

kind of ratio or strategy is really good because the challenge with bulking is, in the beginning, it's very muscle-anabolic. At some point, it starts to train more towards body fat, right? And then with a cut, it's like, you get the fat loss, but then you stay on long enough, it's really, you're fighting muscle loss, right? One way to counter that is to alternate. I also love the psychological part of it. Yeah, you know, one of the hardest things about bulking or cutting for an extended period of time is just, you know,

a map just gets so mundane. Yeah, it does get mundane. When I used to be in these long bulks, right? Because I was in bulks forever when I was younger. And be like, oh my God, I'm stuffing myself. All I'm doing is having it. And like, you're just constantly thinking about overeating all the time.

And then the reverse is true when you're cutting. It's like, oh my God, I've been starving for weeks and weeks and it's like, I feel like I can do anything really hard and consistent for three weeks. So having these and you can even go to one, you suggested that even as an option. So if you have a hard time sticking to something

for three weeks, that would be the other recommendation because I love just interrupting that. Okay, I can be disciplined for two or three weeks, straight, and then I get to go the other direction. I just think it's great, psychologically, and I think it does better for the body, too. Yeah, and studies show, they call them diet breaks and studies that people actually lose more body fat

and preserve more muscle doing something like this. And bodybuilders have done this for a long time. I don't like the way that bodybuilders talk about it, like cheat me and those and stuff like that. But it's been observed for a long time that it just works better. I think a big part of it has to do with psychological peace for sure.

Our next caller is Christopher from Hawaii. Christopher, what's happening? All right, good morning, gentlemen. How's it? Good. How's it going? All right. Going well.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy lives and scheduled to answer my question today. I'll go ahead and jump right into my first question. After running through Matt's power lift, would it be beneficial to run through it again to put up bigger numbers on the bar? So the context for this question is my current goal is to see how high I can get my big five lifts,

a squat, deadlift bench press, overhead press, barbell row. I haven't done purely strength-based program to maximize my big lifts in a long time. For the past few years, my programming's been focused and based on a combination of performance, hypertrophy, and five by five style training. I'm pretty happy with where I am physically and my current fitness, but now I want to see how purely strong I can get. I know that running through maps powerlif won't make me as strong as I can be one time around. Would you suggest going through it again a second time or would you suggest a protocol

of transitioning into maps strong and or performance before returning to powerlifts and question 1.5 to that would be how would you incorporate isometric training into powerlifts? Oh good questions. All right so I need to ask you a little bit for more information before I give you the right answer. Do you have any any nagging joint pain or aches or pains after following mass performance? Or do you feel pretty good? Yeah, how do you feel? Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good after running mass performance. I definitely felt It was definitely different than what I was used to running. No, I met Matt's powerlift. Sorry. Go correction How do you feel after running mass powerlift? Do you feel any imbalances or anything like that? Because that'll that's why I'm correct

Yeah, absolutely good question You feel after running mass power left, do you feel any imbalances or anything like that? Because that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that because where is Sal's going and I Justin was going to do the same thing, which is the same thing I would have done. Because here's the thing, running it back to back, absolutely could be fine. But the things that I would want to know after you get done is how you feel. If you, and that Sal's alluding to potential imbalances, Justin was going to say something about aches and pains, because these are the things that you typically start to notice when you're running like a five by five or just the core lifts. You're working mainly in the sagittal plane all the time and you're pressing your pressing heavy weight.

What's tends to happen is your joints start to start talking to you after a while, that it's like, oh, it's time for me to maybe focus on a little bit of mobility or move in different planes of motion or maybe isometric or unilateral training. So it's hard for us to probably give you your best answer since you're just starting power lift. Really, that's what you need to assess at the end. You technically could run it back to back and be awesome.

It could be and be totally fine. But I wouldn't want you to do that if I asked the questions at Sal and Justin were starting to ask you and you were answering me like, yeah, you know, my elbow was feeling a little, you know, rough a little bit or I noticed I got this little shift and a little knee. Yeah. So that's what we'd be looking for after running that. Now, if you come out of power lift and you're like, I feel the best I've ever felt my life. I'm hitting PRs, no joints, no achiness, no low back pain, no nothing going on. Shit, run it back. Yeah. And you might very well feel that way, because you said earlier in your question

that you focused before doing powerlifts, you did a lot of performance based workouts. So you might just feel afterwards phenomenal and continue on with another round of powerlifts. Especially since it's your goal, I mean, the specificity of it and really like teaching your body how to maximize these

lifts and get better at the mechanics and generating force, that's something that you can continually get better at with reps. So it just really amounts to, if you do notice any of these kind of imbalances, nakes, and pains and things to jump into something like, I would even say something like symmetry to really address and then go right back to power lift after that. Yeah, and by the way, there's nothing wrong, and I don't often say this, but let's say you did power lift, and then you said, you know what, I feel okay, I feel good.

Let me try it again, then halfway through, you're like, oh, I'm noticing some hit pain. Nothing wrong with stopping it and going to a program like map symmetry. So, and I typically don't recommend that because people have an issue jumping from program to program, typically I say follow all the way through, but in this particular circumstance,

there's nothing wrong with, you know, second round, halfway through, noticing some of the stuff, and then doing a program like symmetry or performance that will help balance you out. Because ultimately that's what's gonna lead to the bigger numbers. And imbalance or pain is gonna, you know, obviously that's gonna crush your strength.

You're not gonna be able to get as strong as you can if you've got, you know, movement pattern issues and aches and pains. Absolutely. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. And then the part with isometrics, that is isometrics are a great way to prime your sticking points to and sticking point. I mean really before your workout, five to ten minutes of isometrics is great. Or you can. A prime. Yeah. So, Matt's prime will be great. And there's, you know, the correctional exercise in there isometric based, a lot of them. Or when you're going through power lift, especially the second time around, if you notice that your squat gets stuck at the bottom, there's nothing wrong with pausing a squat at the bottom for three to five seconds, which

is kind of an isometric hold. Just kind of work through different sticking points. But I mean, the best way to implement them for most people is five to ten minutes before your workout. Yeah, I like to I use the in the program, it has written to do like say on squat day, squat primer, and at the end of the, the post primers, I'm doing that. And I also have a prime so that I use to use on my rest and recovery days. So definitely feel, feel good stuff from that. So yeah, I'll just kind of, I guess, add some,

use some of the isometric holds and stuff, stay at the beginning to get more muscle fiber recruitment and CNS activation. Awesome. And then are you, so you're phase one, right? Are you just finished phase one? Are you? I just finished phase. I'm just moving into phase two. All right. How's your strength changes so far in phase one? So far, they've, you know, they've come up a little bit.

Not, I've been, I've been lifting for 20 years. So, um, but they have still gone up a couple pounds more than I have expected at least, so that's a good sign. I've also been eating at a Chloric surplus. I'm not restricting calories or anything like that, just to make sure that I have enough strength and energy, and I have the ability to put on the muscles that I need to put on while I'm running the program. Yeah, after 20 years of training, that's pretty good. It's hard to get stronger if you've

been working out that long. It sounds like you're doing really good, man. And honestly, running back again, if you feel great afterwards, but just the things that we are talking about, be honest with yourself when afterwards. And if you notice those things, it might mean take a break, go to symmetry for that program and then come back. But if you feel great, there's nothing wrong with you running back. We'll send symmetry to you if you don't have it, okay, Christopher? Oh, I appreciate that. You got it, man.

And I actually have just another quick side question, not as big of a deal, but I noticed through a couple of your programs. So for instance, performance and power lift, you have walking the lunges. So my question for that is, do you, do the programs ask or kind of call for the lunch to be the total number of lunges or the total number of lunges for each side? Because the weight that I choose will greatly differ depending on if that's the total number that I'm going to be going or the total number that I'm going to be doing for each side. If you're walking lunges is total.

If it's like front step or back step lunges, it's perlator- It's your alternating, yeah. So if you're walking, it's total reps. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure if the programs were written with a specific in mind or if it was just depending on my goal or if it was lifter's preference or what. Got you. All right, man.

Thanks for calling in. Yeah, it's been an honor and a pleasure. Thanks for answering my question today. And I think we could definitely use a little bit more in the world of what you gentlemen have to offer. So my wife and I both enjoy your programs and your podcast. So thank you very much for what you do. I appreciate it.

Thank you very much, Chris. Thank you. Thank you. You got it. Yeah, that's the question, because I get stuck in this. Well, great, great questions just ahead of himself. Totally. You know, it's, it's, uh, the stuff, both you were going in the direction. I think I was, we all were going to go. Yeah.

And if you can't answer that yet, then we can't really answer that because right. All the programs, I mean, I guess it's a good time to address this, right? We, we phase all the programs. and so you technically could run a program back to back and be okay. But you just have to be aware of what program you're running and what things that we it may be lacking. And you know, a program like Powerlift, incredible for getting really strong in a couple of lives, but really lacks different planes, it lacks unilateral work, it lacks anti-rotation stuff. I mean, there's a lot of things that it lacks

for general health and depending on your goal, it's probably advantageous for you to move through different programs, unless you have a very specific goal. Well, that's the thing. If you have a specific goal, you know, nothing's gonna be better than working on that continuously, but have to check yourself on

whether or not your bodies are spawning the way it should. And that's where that continuously, but have to check yourself on whether or not your bodies are spawning the way it should, and that's where you would tend to have to go into a different type of adaptation to kind of fill that need. Our next caller is Carol from Rhode Island. Carol, what's happening? How can we help you? Hey, how are you? Good.

Thank you so much for having me on. I've been listening to your podcast for probably seven years now, six or seven years, and it's an honor to be here today. So essentially, my question is about how to adjust my trading to a gym. That doesn't have any squat racks or barbells or platforms for deadlifting during the first year or two of surgical residency, and still maintain my squatting and deadlifting during the first year or two of surgical residency and still maintain my squatting and deadlifting skills. So for a bit more context, I've been

lifting pretty consistently for six years now and I'm starting my surgical training residency in the next month and I've noticed that you know in the next month. And I've noticed that, you know, in the times I was least consistent with my training is when it wasn't convenient to go to the gym. So my current gym is about 15 to 20 minutes away from where I live. And there's one that's about two blocks away that I'm going to start going to because I need something that's really convenient easy. But this gym does not have barbells. They do not have squat racks or platforms or anything. So how do I adjust my training to this new gym and still maintain those skills? Yeah, good question. Is it good to have curves?

No, it's a planet fit. Probably a planet fit. Is it planet fit? Yeah, it's not planet fit. No, my first choice, Jim, but you know. She's all embarrassed to say. Hey, just don't lung. Yeah, and even lung.

By the way, you know, what you're doing right now is just, I've trained a lot of surgeons and the residencies are just brutal. So I know kind of what that's all about. Look, here's a deal. And this is for, I tell this to people all the time. Don't make good, or perfect, the enemy of good. Okay, so perfect is you got a gem, it's got all the equipment you want,

you got all the time in the world, you can do the best workouts. But because you can't do perfect, don't demonize the what you have available to. So because you have something close by, doesn't have the all only equipment you want, that's totally fine because at least you're going to be consistent. So how do we make up the difference

or how do we modify our workouts? Lots of unilateral work. I mean, you could do single leg deadlift with dumbbells. And there's a nice carry over from that to a traditional deadlift. You could do single leg squatting, split stance exercises, like Bulgarian split stance squats and walking lunges that are really, really good. That'll give you some great results.

So keep it simple, that's just right there. The two main things that you can't do now is deadlift and barbell squat. Those are the two main things you won't be able to do the gym. Instead, anywhere in our program where it says for you to deadlift, I would do single leg dumbbell deadlifts. That's what I would do. And just, I think those are incredible, by the way too.

I think I don't think you're ready for everybody. Yeah, you're not gonna lose much there, especially if you can actually get really stronger. Anywhere that says barbell backswap, do Bulgarian split stance squats. So with dumbbells. Yeah. Like literally those two, and those two movements

are so phenomenal that you're not going to lose a ton as much as I know we preach about you know, barbell backswarding, I think is that they are the king of exercises, those two movements are a lot of strength coaches out there argue, you know, lateral is a superior. So it's it's it's one of those things where, you know, you think you're going to be losing out on on all these gains, but honestly, you're probably gonna be filling a need for your body that you're gonna be able to address nicely with just focusing on unilateral work for quite a while. Yeah, totally.

I mean, you may find yourself after a couple of years. How long is your residency? How much longer do you have, by the way? It's six years long. The first two years are gonna be pretty intense in terms of hours and I won't get that many days off in a month. But after the first two years, it should be more consistent in terms of hopefully getting

two days off in a row or something like that. Got you. OK. So remember this too, Carol, that exercise in resistance strain also, it's a phenomenal tool that improve, that you can use to improve the quality of your life, but you have to consider the context of your life. And if you're working your butt off

and you're not getting tons of sleep and there's lots of stress, use the workouts to improve the quality of your life. Try, don't what you don't wanna do is try and make your workouts perfect and intense and counter kind of what's going on in life because you'll burn yourself out. And I know that that's a tendency with people like you. You're obviously a high performer.

You're in a position where it requires supreme discipline and hard work. And you can overdo it. And I bet you I would make a bet that you have a tendency to overdo things than the opposite. So you're in a fine position. You know, dumbbell work is perfect. You have machines too,

planet fitness has got things like a hasqua and a leg press. Those are fine too, you could throw those in as well. And then when you get the opportunity to go back to barbell work, it's a beautiful fun to get back into it. But you're not, yes, it's not perfect, but in your situation, that's exactly how I train you.

I wouldn't tell you, go sign up and maximize your environment. Yeah, I wouldn't say, go drive 20 minutes of that gym, because I know that you're probably not gonna be as consistent as you said, so that's not ideal. That trumps it, for sure. Totally. Cool, so I guess one small follow up question is, I do see myself being able to go to my other gym

like once a month. So how do I... That's when you... Five by five. Yeah. I would go out with that. That's when you get to... Yeah, that's when you get...

I mean, that's actually awesome. Because you know what you get to do is do that what we're advising with the Bulgarian split squads and the single-aged deadlifts. And then when you get to get to the other gym, go test the barbell. Do all the barbell stuff. Yeah. I would do like... I would do squats. You know, I would do all the barbell stuff and practice them when you're there once a month.

That'll be really fun. Well, awesome. Thank you. You got it. No problem. Thanks for calling in. Thanks. Yeah.

Boy, I wish I learned that lesson early that like don't make perfect the enemy of good. You know, it's like, I don't want to do it if it can't be perfect. Well, now you're missing out. Because then it's like all or nothing too. Yeah. You feel like you're not putting up, you know, it's like, I don't wanna do it if it can't be perfect. Well, not even missing out. Because then it's like all or nothing too. So, you feel like you're not putting up, you know, what you could be putting.

And so, it's almost like a deterrent to your motivation. Well, and people think because we, we're constantly talking about how important the barbell backsquad deadlift is because they are the king of all movements in the gym. But it doesn't mean that I wouldn't, as a trainer, would not consider the other factors here. And you hit it saw right on the head with the, she said that she, you know, has found herself having a hard time driving 15 to 20 minutes to the gym. So this

gym is right around the corner from herself. It's way more convenient. She's more likely to show up. She's far better off going to a gym that she's more likely to show up to three times a week every week, then go to make her go to another gym that's 15, 20 minutes away that has a barbell that she's going to show up to once a month. Yeah. Okay, just frequencies, King. Yeah, no, absolutely. Our next caller is Marlene from Germany.

Hey, Marlene, how can we help you? Hey guys, thanks so much for taking my question. I'm really excited to be here. The listening for you for about two years now, now I think and I really love your show. Thank you. Thank you. So back to my question. So basically I've been dealing with imbalances not really regarding my muscle strength or size, but more regarding my muscle connection. So when I do exercises I feel them way more on the right hand side of my body than I do on the left, even though I'm lefty.

And my question would be, what would your guys approach be to combat this kind of my muscle connection imbalance or whatever you would call it? Yeah, I was like a layup for us, right? Boy, do we have... This is why we wrote Sympagyord. I wonder if you have a program though, so we got the program. So yeah, I've actually started symmetry about two weeks ago. I think I'm a bit impatient, so not that much change there.

But yeah, I think I just have to get through the program. But actually, maybe you have some more tips or what I could be working on as well. No, nothing's going to work faster than that. Then really focusing on one side at a time and concentrating on that area. So you're in two weeks in, you're doing the isometric portion.

Yeah, yeah, no, you're gonna, so go through the program and then you can go through it again. Well, and I have a tip for you is you have to be patient with this. This, like, I mean, you have to be patient with everything when it comes to fitness, when it comes to building muscle, when it comes to burning fat when it comes to building muscle, when it comes to burning fat. But when you're talking about imbalances and trying to correct a poor recruitment patterns

that you've probably had for most of your life, it's even more tedious and even more important that you're patient. That's the unfortunate part about something like this. It's just going to take, and so the're, okay, the moves that you find, okay, that you're going through right now in symmetry, that you find help you the most or in the most problematic areas, do not be afraid to do the isometric stuff throughout the day and practice it. Okay. So, just because we have it programmed, like we have it programmed for you to at least do

it that much, but you can do more of that. So more of the isometric stuff to help with the imbalances, that is okay for you to do. Yeah, because it's really not that damaging. And it's very similar to our approach to priming your body and getting it ready for the workouts as well. And that's why, you know, it is sort of in the very beginning, is to address loss imbalances and the recruitment side of it to be able to get you more stable. But yeah, it's really repetitions that's going to be key for this. And the unilateral training part is really going to be where it's going to reveal itself

to you. But ultimately, it's going to take a little time. So I follow symmetry. And you know what? It's one of those programs. You could follow over and over again because it's extremely balanced. So keep following that program. And probably within two to three

month period, you should notice some pretty some pretty significant changes. Marlene, have you gone through the Prime Pro webinar that I did? Oh, yeah, actually, yeah, and I also have Prime Pro and the other one. So yeah, I know all these movies. So when you went through when you went through the Prime Pro webinar, did you notice a discrepancy from your left to your right? Like in movements like the 90, 90, where it was one side way more mobile and flexible and you were better connected to than the other side?

Did you notice that? No, actually it was not that profound. So it's really only if I do strength exercises. And for example, if I follow meth and aologna and then I'm in the third phase where I really focus on the squeeze and the pump that's where I notice it. So this is where it's really pretty perfect. This is a force production thing. Yeah, no symmetry, you got the perfect program. I would stick with that until you really felt the process. Yeah, you got to go through it and maybe multiple times it would be probably best.

All right, that sounds great. Thank you so much. Thank you for calling from all the way from Germany by the way. Yeah, thank you. That's great. Appreciate it. Yeah, you know, you hit the nail on the head at him. I mean, if you're right-handed, like, how long would it take for you to feel like your left hand was as comfortable as right?

Yeah. It took a long time to do it. So it's a patient thing, you know, for sure. And the only thing that you can really do to speed that up is to increase the frequency of how often you're practicing with your hand. I mean, I felt like I made pretty fast progress with my ankle mobility and my hip mobility in comparison to what I hear other people out, but I also know that you were doing it all day. Yeah, three days, three times a day minimum.

It just, it became a thing where every time I thought about it, I would just get down and kind of practice it and just became this ritual that I time I thought about it, I would just get down and kind of practice it and just became this ritual that I was doing all day throughout the day, and that's what accelerated me being able to catch it back up. How'd I treat it like just a workout and I was doing it once or twice a week, one time? That's it.

I don't know how long it would've taken me to get to work. Yeah, you're going against decades of hard, hard, wired patterns, so you always put it in perspective. You know, it's going to take a while. Yeah, sometimes. Look, if you like our show, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal. You can also find all of us on social media. So Justin is on Instagram at MindPump.

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