Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1838: How to Train for Explosiveness & Speed, Old School Training Techniques That Should Make a Comeback, the Most Effective Non-Resistance Training Exercises & More

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: If you get sore from your workouts, your workouts SUCK! (3:11) Proud Dad moments. (11:04) Why Top Gun: Maverick left an impression on Justin. (14:30) How birth control has been connected to depression and anxiety in women and the importance/value of the Mind Pump Hormones Private Forum. (27:29) The benefits of L-Carnitine on your androgen receptors. (35:57) Teasing a little more on Sal’s new product with Organifi. (38:17) Debating podcast streaming versus video in terms of advertising and revenue. (40:27) #Quah question #1 - Should I focus more on getting my squat lower before adding weight, or can I get lower while going heavier? (55:57) #Quah question #2 - What are some very explosive movements or compound lifts that really help with explosive and speed training? (1:01:15) #Quah question #3 - What are some of your favorite and most effective modes of exercise outside of resistance training? (1:09:57) #Quah question #4 - What old-school training techniques should make a comeback? (1:16:13) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit LivON Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Father’s Day Special: Free Shipping on all apparel and equipment for $150.00 or more 6/10-6/24 June Promotion: Shredded Summer Bundle or MAPS HIIT 50% off! **Promo code JUNE50 at checkout** Sore muscles…what does it mean? – Mind Pump Blog Muscle Adaptation vs. Muscle Recovery – Mind Pump Blog How Phasing Your Workouts Leads to Consistent Plateau Free Workouts – Mind Pump Blog Cruise control: Pentagon hoping ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ will boost recruiting like original did Meet the Arrow: the first supersonic drone JRE#1828 – Michio Kaku Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum MP Hormones Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 15% off your first order** Visit Path Water for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout for the discount** Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Spotify Reveals Podcast Revenue, Gross Margins and Forecasts - Variety Howard Stern inks new five-year deal with Sirius XM The Draymond Green Show | iHeart Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1535: Should You Squat Below Parallel? Mind Pump #1677: The Best Explosive Exercises For Muscle Growth & Fat Loss MindPump Co-Host Justin Andrews Talks High School Football Training w/ Joe D! How to Prevent Injury and Pain Through Mobility Training – Mind Pump Blog What is NEAT and Why Should You Care About it? - Mind Pump Blog Best Exercises for Strong Shoulders (UNCONVENTIONAL STRENGTH) | MIND PUMP TV BIGGEST Mistakes When Training With The Steel Mace (AVOID THESE) | MIND PUMP TV Our Favorite Pieces Of "Old School" Bodybuilding WISDOM For Training & Nutrition Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Draymond Green (@money23green)  Instagram Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)  Instagram

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That program alone is also 50% off. So if you're interested, go to mapsfitinusproducts.com and then use the code June 50 so June 50 no space for that discount. Look, if you get really sore from your workouts, I hate to break it to you, but your workouts actually suck. You're doing it wrong. I know. Yes, so opposite from what people think, right? I think if they get really sore, it's like the greatest workout of all time. The badge of honor. It's I remember as a as a young kid working out,

I thought getting sore meant I had a great workout. So I actually chased after that. Wasn't till I really figured things out, my body really started responding. That's soreness, I actually had very little of it or none at all. And that's when I had the best progress. And that's what I would aim for

on my clients later on is, did you get sore? Yes, I did. We went too hard. Let's bring it back up. I especially remember that when I was trying to isolate body parts and was doing more split routine stuff, I was like if I did not get that targeted muscle group, like insanely sore, I couldn't even use it anymore.

I felt like it was a total waste. Yeah, I know. I think most trainers are guilty of this too. I mean, it was at least a decade of training clients that I trained them this way. I trained myself. And once I realized it with clients, I stopped there, but still like an asshole trained myself

for probably five more years. Oh, I know, I'm not funny. Before really starting to piece it together, but I think a lot of people are guilty. And I do think that it's easier said than done to though, right? Like I think it's real easy to sit here and be like, Oh yeah, okay, getting that sore is too sore. Okay, well then where's the sweet spot at then?

Like how do I know I'm having an effective workout if I can't feel it afterwards? And so, you know, it's still to this day, I'd say I'm flirting with that line all the time. Yeah, I think, you know, I want to be clear, a little bit of sornice is okay. You know, the kind where you have to kind of stretch to search for, I'm like, okay, I can still move and function. Yeah, but lots of sornice, that lasts for a day or two or more than that. It means you went too hard and you went too long.

And you need to judge it based off of that, not based off of what you could handle before. This is where a lot of people mess up as they say, yeah, I know I'm getting real sore, but I've done way more than this in the past, and I felt okay. And I say, well, it depends on what's going on right now with your life, your age, your diet, your sleep,

your stress, all those different things. The best metrics you can use that will tell you if your workouts are doing good are the more objective ones, performance, strength, mobility, are you actually progressing? Not are you feeling hurt or acclaimed? I kind of liken it more to an event or a game, like that type of mentality. It would be like I was competing every single time I was in the gym.

If I was trying to achieve that type of soreness and stress response that you get afterwards. And it's just not productive because it's a long game. It's a long-term strategy where you need to be able to think about what I'm gonna feel like in my next workout, in the workout after that, in the workout after that. And once you shift into that mindset, it's totally different. Yeah, I think another reason why this prevails or or it's just so tough to get around, is

that we confuse recovery with adaptation a lot, right? So recovery is healing, so it's your body healing. Adaptation is above and beyond that. That's where the body, once you're healed, or even through the process of healing, because some often they can happen kind of at the same time or the overlap. The adaptation process is aiming to make you stronger, more resilient, so that next time that same stress doesn't cause the damage. But we confuse it, right?

So we think if we're sore and then we're not sore, that we actually improved. When in reality, oftentimes, all we've done is given our body the ability to heal, and then we go back to the gym and we repeat the same thing. So you never get stronger, you never improve. All you do is damage and heal, damage and heal. And we don't allow for the adaptation to take place. And if you think back to your best periods of progress in your workouts, you probably didn't feel tons of soreness.

If you can think back to when you were making the best progress, most consistent progress, you weren't feeling tons of soreness, right? If you can think back to when you were making the best progress, most consistent progress, you weren't feeling tons of soren. You felt good. You felt stronger and more energetic. You didn't feel like beat up. Well, I think this gets abused the most at the beginning of someone's journey.

And so I would actually challenge what you're saying right now too, that I think some people think that some of their best results come at the very beginning, right? You go from being sedentary, you're not trying out working out, you all said inside, I'm extremely motivated and I'm going to do it all, right? I'm going to start eating better. I'm going to train every day that I can in the week. I'm going to get after it in the workouts, like I'm all fired up because it's the beginning.

And the results tend to come on pretty fast because you went from pretty much doing nothing to all of a sudden, I'm gonna be training every day that I can and then making better food choices. And so I think they see this change. So I actually think that this gets abused the most at the beginning. And I also think that, because this is somewhere I still struggle today, right?

Like I always have to remind myself if I have fallen off a little bit of my consistency that when I get back on my kick of, okay, because I'm no different than anybody else. I have my moments of like where I'm not super consistent that I'm really consistent and I go, okay, I tell myself, okay, I've been falling off a little bit. I'm gonna really tighten my game up this week.

And what I always have to remind myself is when I get back into that consistency that I can't pick up where I just left off, maybe say a month ago. Even if I haven't fully fallen off, I haven't not trained at least a couple times in a week for a really long time. But if I also go, I'm gonna go from one or two times a week,

I'm gonna ramp it up, I'm gonna start getting more consistent for five times. I wanna be more consistent and finish my workouts or whatever the case may be. I take that mindset and I start to train that way and it's always a mistake because I didn't need that much. I didn't have to do that many sets. Over throttle.

Yeah, almost always. And so it's constantly having to have that conversation when I get motivated to come back in. So I think this happens to a lot of people when they get started. It's a really good point because, you know, like back to what you said about the beginner, your body improved in spite of the fact that you did too much, right?

So this happens to when you change your workouts or you change your phase. So you go from low reps to high reps or long rest periods or short rest periods or vice versa. And then you get really sore because you made that change. And then your body progresses and you're like, oh, it's because of the soreness. No, it's because you changed the stimulus. The soreness told you that you probably did a little too much, but you progressed in spite of the fact that you did a little too much. So don't confuse it to, right? Don't confuse it to and say, this is why I program an association.

It's an easy association. Yeah, easy to think in that direction because like, this is what happened every time I shit it. And so I need to keep feeling that so. I feel bad for my early years clients as a trainer because they would, I would ask them, hey, how'd you feel after our workout? Like, oh, you know, I felt pretty good. I'd be like, did you get sore?

Me, not really a little bit. And then I'd like ramp up the intensity and push. And then it became the reverse later on. Like every trainer's guilty of that. And then it became the reverse later on. Oh, I got really sore. Okay, we got to scale things back. It was too much.

So opposite from, you know, how you used to train people. Well, that's part of the problem is that clients think they need that trainers get competitive with that inside the gym. And it just makes, it just creates the cycle. I know. And I mean, I would make the case that probably most these, these big, these big public gyms with, you know, 10, 15, 20 trainers in them. I don't know, 80% or probably being trained pretty poorly,

you know, and not realizing it because maybe you see people getting results, or there's somebody listening right now, oh, my trainer was amazing, we got great results, you know, well, was that more because you had great programming and you trained correctly, or was that because you decided to be consistent for the first time in your life

and you had an appointment you were paying for and you were eating better for an extended period of time. Right, in spite of. Exactly. It's like sometimes, and so they attached that to, oh, this was great when it's like you could have been even better. Absolutely. And you could have done maybe less work.

That's the crazy part. It's like you probably could have put less effort and work towards it and had as much if not more results doing it the right way. Totally, totally. Yeah, I got to tell you guys about yesterday, so obviously it was a weekend or whatever. And I had one of those moments as a dad where you just, I swear to God, man, I had to pause five or six times because I was getting kind of emotional with my kids and stuff. This is a hard job, right?

Being a parent's a hard job. And every once in a while, especially when your kids get older, they'll express to you what you mean to them or what you've done. And then you just like, it takes you back. So anyway, Jessica's not gonna be around for Father's Day.

So she's gonna be out of town. So what she did is she had Father's Day for us yesterday or for me yesterday. So I show up and she booked this, these people to come and cater food and we had some people over. And the kids, and this is really cool because they know that I'm not like a things person,

like to buy me things is really hard because it's not, and it's also because I was to buy something for myself if I want. So they did a bunch of sentimental things. So my kids all wrote cards and what they wrote in the cards, like really hit me really hard. They did these post-it notes on the door,

and each post-it note was written by the kids for something that they appreciate me for. But you could tell it was super heartfelt and thoughtful. Oh my gosh, dude. I wish you. Oh, bro. I couldn't even, I couldn't even, I mean, like my son wrote my oldest, dude. I wish you. Oh bro, I couldn't even, I couldn't even, I mean, like my son wrote my oldest, right?

He wrote a card and he drew like a bicep on it and a flexing or whatever. And on the inside, he wrote, your greatest strength has always been being a father. Oh, fuck. He's actually one of the editors of the show. Okay, wait, so it was not a tell my love you son. That was really good.

It was on like, you said on the door. So on the door were all these Post-its, and that was his card. So on the Post-its were things like, you know, all the things they love about me. So like, you're a super-involved father or, you know, you love to make us breakfast in the morning or, you know, you do good things for a lot of people.

Like, all these different things that they wrote. And I didn't know that they were there. So I go in, and Jessica's funny. She put them on the bathroom door, because she knows that's where I'll go first. So I go in, I see all these posts that's ignored it. So I'm like, whatever, guys, bathroom. They make them out.

He's doing the receding. I'm like, oh, it's something, you know. She's writing notes for something or whatever. She's always got some project going on. So I'm like, whatever. So then she's like, hey, did you look at the door? I'm like, was that for me? So I go back and look at it and it just ruined me.

Totally ruined me dude. I saw you. Oh, yeah, we got to spend some time over the weekend, you know, with Dominic Odo. It was, I got to talk with him and he was, I was like, maybe he would write this, right? Like, thanks for introducing me to Rocky Dad. Oh, yeah. But he only to Rocky Dad. Oh, yeah.

But he only saw Rocky for. Oh, yeah. I was like, what? Yeah. This was mind blowing to me. I was like, you're sad, the stuff, no side. You've not seen all the Rockies. You know why I do something about it.

You know why? I want to, it's such a special like movie for me. Yeah. Then I want to wait till they ask for it. I don't want to do the thing. Have you done that with your kids? Where does a movie love to watch it really? Yeah, all my star wars movies all of them So have you had this happen where there's like a movie that you really liked as a kid and then you kind of force them to watch it And they don't like it so crap out. Oh, yeah, yeah So yeah, that does I don't want to sit that up

Because if they don't like Rocky, I would be I don't I'm like I don't know if I if I can keep you as a kid anymore I don't know what set that up, cheesy. Because if it'll like Rocky, I would be, or I'm like, I don't know if I can keep you as a kid anymore. I don't know what we're gonna do here. Yeah, so yeah, dude. So I actually watched Top Gun finally over the weekend. No, you've seen it, right? Oh, was it good? What you think? Dude, I loved it.

First like five minutes, right? Yeah, it got me in the sense. I mean, they didn't even bother using the new soundtrack. It's all psyched, dude. I'll take it though. Do you know that that movie's getting close to 400 million? Domestic. Wow.

Yeah, it's like, what are some of the records? I can't remember the last time I lived with it. I don't know what the records are, but it's, I mean, definitely the top-grossing movie in all the time. It's really good. They nailed it. They did a good job of like kind of taking you back to some of the clips and bringing that kind of energy back into the movie and then

the new characters being kind of similar, like hot shot guys and girl. So it was a really fun movie, but one thing that I noticed, I'm like, why don't I like this, especially like it left an impression on me? And I was thinking about, and this know, be a bit of a spoiler, but so don't listen if you don't want to, but if you haven't seen it yet, come on. So at the end in the sequence, it's like this whole mission for them to, like, blow up this uranium base, right? And it literally is the same scene as a new hope where Luke is going in with his rogue squadron down

to blow up the desktop. And like, I didn't realize, I walked away, and I'm like, dude, this was really similar. And then I looked it up and like saw all these threads about it and stuff, but like. We'd make you like it more or less. I'm more. Yeah, I was like, it's like, that's the thing.

It's like, Adam brings us up sometimes about the hitmakers, the book, because like they bring some of those elements of familiarity and like things that I'm like, oh wow, like I loved this part of that movie and then they like put that in. I don't know if they did that consciously or subconsciously, totally consciously. Well, I mean, we're right. Isn't that, I think it's funny how we are such creatures of habit when it comes to things like that we're so predictable totally it's like wait, so I my initial I loved it too like I really liked it but I also like recognize like oh my I just got wheeled in nostalgia right that's it's the nostalgia I mean I mean I'm

calling yourself out like why am I getting the chills I know I was like I'm sitting with Katrina in the first literally it's the first three it's the intro and I'm like I'm sitting with Katrina in the first literally it's the first three. It's the intro and I'm like I look or I'm like this is gonna be good I mean it's like the original intro it's the same intro they did before but I just shows you how easily I mean so it could have been bad after that, but I was already suckered into it being good It just shows you like have you were so predictable. I had I know I'm gonna give these guys I was like leaving like all just yeah, cuz I was talking to to kids and and Courtney and like I was like super pumped and like Like so I'm reading immediately I text major Jason the guy took me up because I was like dude Like there's no way Tom see I'm afraid to tell him cuz they probably ruined it for you

They're like no, he hasn't you see it still. Yeah, I haven't seen it. No, he's I'm like you got to go see it man Like I need you to take on this like no, I think they're gonna ruin it They're gonna be like you can't do that. Come on That would be possible I know I know Hollywood tricks and all that but like I know like so Tom Cruise has actually been able to fly Those jets himself like you guys like a license or whatever. Have you guys read about us? I'm pretty sure. So have you guys read about the...

The litology, the... Yeah. So they opened doors. Yeah. So I hear. Have you read about the impact Top Gun had on recruitments for... Oh, you told me what it was. What was the percentage of that?

I don't remember. I remember Navy, like through the roof. Oh, it was. What was the percentage of that? I don't remember. I remember it navy year went through the roof. Oh, it was massive. Yeah. It was the first one had a tremendous impact on recruitment. This one also is probably going to have the similar impact. And I wouldn't be surprised. All the people won't know this, but.

I read something out there. If Hollywood produces a military movie or a war movie or a movie that has the military. They can get funding from them. If they like it and they approve it, you can get funding for it because it acts like propaganda. It is, I mean, it's, I mean, I got pumped about it.

So do you know they got funding? I have no idea, but I wouldn't be, I haven't watched the movie, but I wouldn't be surprised based off what I heard. Cause very pro, pro America, pro America. No, that being said, I didn't get that feeling. Like some movies you really get that feeling. Like it's like, this is totally like a recruitment type. I don't get that from that. Did you get that from that? I don't get that feeling like some movies you really get that feeling like it's like this is totally like a recruitment type

I don't get I didn't get that from that. Did you get that from I don't watch it? Oh, you don't Did you get that? No, no, no, it just was a follow-up of anything I feel like it played more into what Justin's saying the nostalgia of watching the original Built on top of it. Yeah, so I feel like it was more that than anything else But I mean of course seeing the fighter jets and well, let me ask you this. Would it make you if you were watching it? Would it is it something that would make you go, man, I think I'd want to try that or I'd want to fly one of those jets or maybe I mean, if you're yeah, if you're a young buck, I'm sure it made an impression like that on some of them. Sure.

You know, because like I was I was all going hood, you know, when I was like, you know, full-test austro and then teenager like ready to take it on the world. What does this say here? Equipment include, well, that's not a big deal. They got equipment as far as you get. I don't know, they got any money for it. No, but, I mean, hold on, but if you, let's say you wanna have a military equipment, whatever,

that could be very expensive. Very expensive. But if they like what you're doing, they'll give it to you for free. Look up, so that's how many, like, how much it raised a recruitment for. I thought Sal said something like 500% or something. I was up crazy.

Pretty high. The original one definitely boosted it. I don't know if they have any numbers yet on that. It was the first one. I think they do. I think they have it for a second. It was the first one that did it. No, I mean, it makes a huge difference

to watch movies and get hyped about shit like that. Yeah. So you know, it's crazy about it is when you came back from writing with the, you know what's crazy about it is when I when you came back from writing with With you know the jones it took you up on that. Yeah, made Jason now. Which one did you fly? Where you in this at Tomcat? Was he at 14 16? Okay When you told me how the G's affected you yeah, that makes me it just blows me away These guys can operate these planes these jets and know what they're doing

Yeah, and you could tell to like that the actors had to go through that because of their face and everything in the movie. They zoomed in, and you could see them like... Contorting and stuff? Contorting and compressing, and I actually really enjoyed how they like highlighted that. That was like part of the movie was like, you know, how many Gs they could pull. And so that was like kind of the, I guess it made me feel a little better like what I went because the thing is looking, I guess,

in the Navy, they don't have the G suit when they fly. Like at least the Air Force. No, the Air Force has a G suit. The Navy has the blue angels, they don't use the G, so they have to use this certain technique like they breathe and tighten at the same time. So why not? Why don't I understand why would one use a G suit

and the other one not use it? I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. Oh wow, that's interesting. I'm sure when they're actually in battle, whatever, I'm sure they all use the G suit, but the whole thing was trying to pull as many as they can with this like upward

Rejection for like 10 G's or whatever and it was like how made you hit I hit 9.3 Oh, so you actually reached 9 something. Yeah, I remember Justin Well, he told was such a big deal for them to hit 10 in the movie That's what I mean. That's why I was like tripping out. I was like oh, dude. Yeah, cuz I felt like I got smashed You know, and like it was a total surprise for me like because I just getting thrown into that. So they're okay, I just didn't really have spoiler, but there's a part where one of the guys is pulling 10 G's and his vision. Tunnel vision. Did you feel that ever? Did you ever feel like no because the G suit So the G suit keeps like pumping and squeezing your legs to push the blood back up

So that way it goes back up to you. I remember when you came back Justin's list his quote was I'm like dude, what did it feel like and goes it feels like it tears every atom of your body apart I'm gonna put the back together like wow being dramatic Well, no, I mean if you there's so, too. I was being dramatic. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, if you, you can go on YouTube and you can watch, they have these G simulation devices that to test G's on people.

And they'll have a camera on the person's face. Yeah. And it looks bad, bro. It does not look, it looks pretty bad. Yeah, so the worst part is like, my, it's been long enough now where I, like, I forget about the pain and I think about, like, how cool it was and like, you the pain and I think about how cool it was

and get all competitive with it because I'm like if Tom Cruise can do it, I was like, I take, I still take, so maybe Jason, hey man, if that's true, you need to take me back up. You don't smash his record. Oh, yeah, he came back and told me about it and I was dying.

Because Justin was talking crap. So that was I was dying. Because Justin was talking crap. So that was the other thing. He went in talking crap. So I know there were like, let's see what he would do. I downplayed exactly. I downplayed a lot of the beginning of when I was about to take off in the jet. Because what I do when I'm scared is I pretend that I'm not. And I just talk it all this shit.

I think that's everybody just saying that. Yeah, yeah, that's what I do, right? And so I'm like, I'm gonna tell them. Should you slow down please? Can you just not do that? Dude, you better give me like the craziest right ever get anybody in this plane.

And I'm like, I don't, like this is gonna be shit. You know, it's like the client coming up the first time. You better work my ass harder than anybody. That's what I'm saying. Are you sure you want that guy? I'm like, he took all the stops on me, dude. like the client coming up and first time you better work my ass harder than anybody ever worked. Exactly. Are you sure you want that guy? I'm like he took all the stops on me dude and destroyed me. So you need to put a clip up again. It's been so long.

It's been a few years now. He puked at the end. Yeah. You need to put your, yeah. Yeah. That haunts me a little bit. But that was like so long I was up in the air. Like if I would have gone back to the ground that would have been fine. He's still talking shit. It was like so long I was up in the air like the if I would have gone back to the ground

That would have been fine. He's still talking shit It was like it was like an hour right? Yeah, it was an hour birds and shit Even in top gun those are only like 15 minute missions. Yeah, I'm saying they didn't do no hour I I wouldn't last the 10 seconds. Yeah, I made me vomit and really it was like the barrel rolls It got me like we kept like flipping like this have you see so I showed you guys Oh I'm still a barrel rolls agami. It's like when you kept like flipping like this. Have you seen, so I showed you guys, I showed you guys that experimental,

like it's not a slingshot, but it's designed to launch things into orbit through centrifugal force. So it spins them so fast that it released it the perfect moment using no propulsion. And literally throws it fast and hard enough. Slingshot to the, to where it goes into space.

And then I read an article that said, why humans can't, you can't get on that thing. The G's would be so powerful. Pancake you. No, it would rip you'd splatter into the box. It would rip your skin in your bones apart. Yeah, it wouldn't be able to do it. But they may use it for satellites because it would be cheap. It would just just jump in the air. That's funny. How crazy is that? The only way it's possible, by the way, is I read this, I'm like, why haven't we done this before? Sounds like such simple physics.

Because you need perfect computing to release at the perfect moment. Yeah, right. One small degree. That's a fraction off it is gonna be so. You're not throwing it across the country. Yeah. It's so hard.

It explodes. Oops. I know, pretty crazy. Anyway Yeah. It's blown up. Oops. I know. Pretty crazy. Anyway, Doug did pull it up. 500% increase in recruitment. That was your original one.

That was from the original one. The original one. So at this point, the Pentagon is just hoping it's going to do. Yeah. Similar. Hope it's good. But they have no numbers yet. Oh, no, nothing.

I got you. Oh, you were, I thought you were talking about the original. No, the original. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know yet, because the new one just came out. Well, what a worth of a stat for you to bring up of the original one. No, we don't know yet because the new one just came out. Well, what a worth of a stat for you to bring up of the Oh, because the old one, we'll see what this like. 15 years ago.

Yeah, you know that they're, Hey, you know that they're creating, you know that they're creating or they have now supersonic drones. Yes. So they now have, yeah, autonomous drones that are, that go pretty soon, they'll be faster than you playing that we can fly. So they were trying to kind of like pin that to some of the UFO sightings as of late because the supersonic drones do, they defy a lot of physics in some regard.

Well, it looks like it. It looks like it. Yeah, it's like an optical vision. Did I tell you so I had to come, so we listened, my son and I on the way up to Taha, we're listening to Joe Rogan and Michio Kaha. So he's an astrophysicist, that really smart, a theoretical physicist anyway. He was talking about UFOs and the videos

that we have now showing their maneuvers. And we have this huge discussion, like do you think it's aliens? What do you think it is? And I said, my theory is that it's our way of flexing our technology to the rest of the world without telling them it's our technology. So we'll release it and be like,

we don't know what this is, Russia, but isn't it weird? Well, it's how close it is. What's the war as R is to look at how it's flexing in the weapons. Because you don't want to tell them like this is what we got. So you want to be more like,

man, this is weird, we filmed this thing on underwater and flying crazy. Well, because I heard that you have Russia has been using those supersonic drones to bomb scenarios and locations. Oh, really? Yeah, they're using new technology. Oh, I didn't know that. That's what the report say. Oh, wow. So, yeah, but it's, yeah, it is totally part of that is like, oh, so nice. You all this new technology, kind of surfacing and there's, you know, war kind of brings all that out, I would think.

Totally. So I'm gonna make a little bit of a left turn here, but I want to bring out. It's right, every time you say that, you go right. I know. You say I'm gonna make a left turn and he goes right. Well, I think if you're watching me that way, this is your left, am I doing that right?

You're actually crazy. You're just left seeing you right here? I'm gonna take a left turn right here. It's on, it's off. Listen, he's thinking ahead. Is this left to you right here? I'm gonna take a left turn right here. It's off. Listen. He's thinking ahead. I'm talking to you, though. I'm thinking to do it. I'm presenting.

Left, now, it's hard. It's always left. But anyway, so I'm gonna make a whatever we want to call it turn. But it's definitely not related to what we just talked about. But a dick. No, so I was in our MP hormones forum. And I'll go on there and read people's questions and stuff and I've been doing a lot more reading about hormones and effects in the body

Actually, what prompted what I'm about to talk about was that and I also read an article on birth control for women And they're now saying and this of course, I think this is a duh, but they're talking about how Birth controls been connected to Depression and anxiety and women and for a long time they didn't really want to acknowledge that this is a duh, but they're talking about how birth controls have been connected to depression and anxiety and women. And for a long time, they didn't really want to acknowledge that this is a thing, but they're showing, hey, look, certain birth controls can definitely cause really bad depression and women and anxieties

and what are, obviously, right? It's hormones. But so I read that, then I'm in the forum, and I'm reading people's questions and stuff, and just how important it is if you do hormone replacement therapy or testosterone replacement therapy, which in many cases can really improve your health, you really wanna work with people that understand

the intricacies of how hormones affect your body. For example, in men, when they do testosterone replacement therapy, they're replacing your testosterone. But if you're estrogen as a result of it is too low or too high, you could feel like dog shit. You could have libido issues, you could have energy depression issues. There's also hormones upstream from testosterone

like DHA, pregnant alone, and other hormones that can get affected. And it's important, here's the other thing that's important, because I saw this discussion, I thought this was really, really cool. You, a particular testosterone level or hormone level may make one person feel good and another person not feel so good because of how you metabolize the hormone and the receptors that the hormone attaches to. So like, if you're a man with a lot, like a really high density of angiogen receptors,

is what testosterone attaches to. A testosterone, you know, a total testosterone level. Yeah, like you may have a total testosterone level 600 and you may feel amazing. If you're another guy and you have a low density of energy and receptor, energy receptors, you may require a total testosterone level of closer to a thousand to feel really good.

So, and the only way you'll know this, or be able to do this is if you're working with people that are doing your blood work, who understand this. Now I'm so glad you brought this up because this is, I've been in the case of this, right? So, I experiment with steroids in my early 20s and all of mine come from either word of mouth or research on talking to people on forums

or reading the steroid Bible. And so you can get an idea. And I thought I had a pretty good idea of like this is what I'm supposed to take when I'm taking it, this is what I'm supposed to take afterwards. But the problem with that, it's still generic information to your point right now. And I was one of those anomalies of like,

how much like the anti-essrogen type of blockers I have to take to balance me out is way different. I know we're all on different, we are to take different doses. What I have to take is more than what you have to take to block that because my body produces more than you do. I wouldn't have known that had I not been working with them in the clinic and having them balance that all out. to take is more than what you have to take to block that because my body produces more than you do. I wouldn't have known that had I not been working with them in the clinic and having them

balance that all out. Yeah, well remember when your estrogen was too low and the side effects that you're feeling and you wouldn't have known and you know what happens with that is if somebody doesn't know or if you're not working with really good doctors that monitor this and understand this, they may just lower your testosterone or up your testosterone and not look at all these other balances. Like for example, high estrogen is different if your testosterone is higher low.

It's the ratio oftentimes it makes a bigger difference. So if your testosterone is high because you're on replacement, then the amount of estrogen you may need to balance it out may be higher than what is what is normally considered normal or higher low. And again, there's lots of different things that look like DHT levels and all these different things that you know, you got to monitor in your body and it can be very individual. So important this way, because you're seeing all these hormone replacement or therapy facilities pop up now.

In fact, I mean, there's places that you'll do it online, they'll deliver to your door, you don't really work with doctors or whatever, they make it really inexpensive, but you're dealing with hormones. And hormones are the signolars for how you feel, your moods, I mean so many different things. Well, this is part of, okay, this is what led us to, you know, you finding Dr. N and introducing him originally to me was, and I don't want to roll the company under the bus that I originally was working with, but they're a big company.

They're a nationwide company that does hormone therapy. And one of the frustrations that I had was when I would come in to test or my weekly, my monthly checkup or what I thought, I would be asking these types of questions and I couldn't get any answers because the person that was administering all to me was not somebody who was very well versed in this. It was just like a nurse that was certified to be able to give it to me. So I wasn't receiving the knowledge

and the information that I was trying to get from having a professional place take care of me. That's one of the biggest differences about working with Dr. Rand and Dr. Todd is that I've from having a professional place take care of me. That's one of the biggest differences about working with Dr. Rand and Dr. Todd is that I've been able to have access to them and every time I have a question like, why do I feel this way or what do you think it's this? They have answers for me or they're troubleshooting with me

versus what was happening to me at the other clinic was I wasn't getting any answers. And what I found like my little bit of knowledge was further than the person that was administering it to me. So I'm like, this sucks. I'm paying this premium to have a medical professional. It'll be the one that administers to me, but I can't get any new information because I already know more than the person administering to me. I don't know if anybody or anywhere that's doing this in terms of unless you're paying

a premium to get access to that kind of a doctor, to give you that kind of transparency and go through all that. So yeah, I think it's one of those things where I think it, people don't realize how valuable this really is. And you can't really find something like this in real life. Well, how your hormones affect you

and what's the right ratios and whatever for your body is going to be different than it is for someone else. So it's like diet or workout. It's like there's general truths, but the more individualized things become, the better it is for you. Your hormones are such an important part of your well-being and how you feel. Talk to anybody who's ever suffered from low thyroid or insulin issues, right? Or hormone imbalances.

You just, it feels terrible. You don't know what the hell is going on and you may think, I don't need more of this, need more of that, less of that. Like for example, there'll be men that will go on testosterone, okay? So they'll replace their testosterone. They'll have a higher dose of testosterone.

And then six months a year into it, libido crashes, they can't, they, what the hell's going on? My testosterone's high. Why is my libido crap? Not realizing it may be, it may be their estrogen. That's affecting. If it's too low, that'll give it, you know,

that'll crush that, or if it's too high, that may crush that, or some other issue. So it's, it makes it a huge difference to work with the right people. I want to talk about that just because I think we oversimplify things. Like, for example, I had a client once that went on years ago, right? A long time ago, she had to go on thyroid medication because she had to have her thyroid removed. It took her a year to get the right dose of thyroid.

And then when she did, she felt amazing, but she went between like too much, too low, other things being off or whatever. So just important. Important. Well, I mean, our community has free access to this. So if you're not on the, you know, a mind pump hormones Facebook forum, like you have to get on there. Yeah. And I would recommend this. If you really want to take the next level, you go to mphormones.com and they will evaluate, you can go and just get an evaluation labs, everything, and they'll break everything down specifically for you, and then you can kind of see the difference.

Which also reminds me of another thing. I've talked about this before, but the supplement, the amino acid L-carnitine is one of the few things, aside from strength training, that has been shown to increase androgen receptor density. So if you want to, in a natural way, make the testosterone that you have more effective, you could supplement with L-carnitine and that'll do. There's different versions of L-carnitine. I like acetyl-carnitine. It's one of my favorite types.

Live-on makes that and it's very absorbable because it's got the... No, what does the research say on it? Is it something that permanently affects it? Is it only affected while I'm taking it? Is it a while you're taking it? Why are you taking it? And then is it a significant enough difference

that you should potentially be able to tell? I mean, do you know like is it? That's a good question. I would imagine, this is me guessing. I imagine it depends on the individual. Depends on the person, how much they're gonna notice or how much they're gonna feel. And imagine, and it's probably like everything else

when you supplement. If you're somebody who's deficient or very low when it comes to energy and receptors, I would think that maybe you potentially feel that more versus somebody who has a high amount. Now, when you did stuff with Dr. Rendez, were they able to tell you if you are or do they speculate, oh, you probably have a bunch of high amount of receptors?

What they do is they, so there's a range, there's ranges that you have, right? Your typical ranges that you'll get from the lab and then they base it off of your symptoms. You're perceived well-being because that, also you have to look at that as well. Like, I could train a client and be like, but this is the perfect workout and diet

and the client can be like, I feel like crap. And I ignored them. No, no, no, no, don't worry. It's the perfect workout and diet. Let's just keep going. Stupid. You gotta listen to the person's feedback. Like, okay, you're not getting good sleep.

Maybe it's too high. Maybe we're giving you too high of a dose. Maybe that's why you're getting some insomnia, for example, or you feel this particular way. Let's look at these levels. Oh, it looks like in the upper level, you feel better. Or it looks like, and some people think the higher the better, not true, there's definitely people who had to reduce their dose and they felt better doing it. This is all, you need this feedback, And then you need that with the labs,

so you can see the differences and the changes and associate it with the subjective feeling, connect the dots, boom. Now you have this individualized kind of perfect type of approach. So anyway, speaking of our, of people that we work with, I'm excited, so I can't talk about this.

I can't tell everybody what this is, but you know what I have right here? Secret packet. This is so so organify. We've been working with organify putting together and I can't talk too much about it, but with a new product that we're kind of putting together. Can you not even tell what the kind of product it is? I can't say what it is, but I have the samples in here and I worked with them, so I did.

So I get to try it today. We get to try it, right? I talked about what I won in there, what I want, what it's for. Now how many things got vetoed for you? Because you've learned that you can't just throw everything you want, or also be a $500 shake. I started with that.

I started with that. And then we worked it down to what would actually work, what wouldn't taste like dog piss. And what's realistic, and I'm very happy with what we were able to put in there. Oh, okay. I mean, organize tons of integrity too. So when I would say certain things,

it'd say, well, efficacious dose is this. So why don't we try this instead and I had some suggestions we went back and forth. And so I'm excited. Now is this an initial trial that you have here right now for us to try? Is it flavorless right now? Or do you? No, it's flavored.

Oh, it's already got flavor. Yeah, so this is like, we're gonna test what they think with the final product will be. And then they'll get our feedback or whatever. Oh, okay. But they know how they are with flavor. They do really good with flavor. I have yet to taste anything from them that doesn't.

I agree. That doesn't taste, you know. Was he either seen there in a retail store now? No. Oh, was it? Yeah, remember? Okay, so I brought it up on the show and I was wrong. It was whole foods. It sprouts. Oh. No. Oh, was it? Yeah, remember? Okay, so I brought it up on the show and I was wrong. It wasn't Whole Foods.

It's Sprouts. Oh, Sprouts. That's what it was. Yeah, which is like right around the corner from the Whole Foods over in this area. And I was like, I know I just saw it. I saw it somewhere. It'd be cool to see it on the shelves.

Yeah, that's some of these major chains. There's quite a few of our partners now. Yeah, it's pretty cool to see a lot of the brands that we started with years ago, have now made their way into some of these major change. I see Oli Pop in there. You see Pathwater all over the place. You see Magic Spoon.

Magic Spoon is a target now. That's right. You're seeing a lot of the brands that we started working for. You're using prime time commercial. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're a big player now. Yeah, huge

What do you what do you add on what do you think about because the podcasting space is we're not it's not there yet But it's getting there to the point where it's gonna be a major Retailers are gonna be going in there to advertise. Yeah, you know, I don't I go back and forth on how I feel about that You know to something that you have even thought about and we've talked about is YouTube is so big in comparison to podcast. And what makes me think that we might not see that is that for advertisers like, okay, if you're Coca-Cola, you're going to look at YouTube before you look at podcasting. Still, even as great as podcasting is. Especially brand plans. Yeah, especially because it's just the

pool is huge. It's about billions of people versus hundreds of millions of people. It's a no-brainer to be in podcasting. And what we're watching right now, we're a part of this, is this new wave of podcasting being a show on like YouTube. So what might happen is this podcasting just purely audio may kind of stay around the same size and where you might see the huge growth is on the video side of it. So I mean, that would still be advertising towards the podcasting direction, but it would be it would live more in the YouTube world. So, I mean, I predict that's gonna happen more. Well, Spotify is betting heavy that podcasting can be massively profitable for them.

So I don't know if you guys saw their numbers, but they, they profited as a company, but the vast majority of the profits is music. They actually lost money on podcasts, but they said we know this. Well, they're acquisition heavy right now. Yes, they said we know this, and but we're acquisition heavy right now. Yes, they said we know this, but we predict that this can be very profitable segment of our business.

Yeah, I believe I read somewhere that they spent almost a billion dollars, like $900 and something million on podcast acquisitions in the last few years. I mean, so obviously they're not making the bill. Yeah, that's the thing. I got a lot to make up for, for those, you know, purchases. I mean, I love Spotify. I think they have one of the best user friendly platforms so I could totally see the,

and then the fact that they are, give you this option of like audio or video. I mean, that's what kind of makes it dynamic, right? So it's like you get the podcasting if you want to just listen to it or you have the video way of watching it. So I do think that that's pretty cool what they're doing and I do think that Spotify's, I mean, I bought stock in them quite a while ago. I mean, all stock sucks right now.

Yeah, they're making a heavy bet on it. And I think that they're, I mean, I would, I mean, obviously I'm in the space. So I kind of agree with them. Yeah, I think that I want to agree with you because what it looks like, what the well, it doesn't look like they're quite transparent. They're trying to capture that market. Yeah. They want to be, and you know what, they're, you're right, they're UI, because iTunes still gets more people, but compare iTunes to Spotify. Well, I think we're going to continue to see.

I think we're going to continue to see. I think we talked about this a while back, and I've heard some people speculate on this, but I really think that creators are going to be treated more and more like athletes, where there's so many streaming platforms right out there Both platforms and apps within platforms. So you get signed to a specific. Yes So I I think we're gonna see more and more of the like the top the top of the top like creator content creators Getting acquired by these these big mega companies.

And then being exclusive. Yeah, just like what we saw, Joe Rogan is just an example, like the big example that most people are aware of. It's already happening. Well, that's how music happens, that's how screaming video happens. That makes perfect sense. That a network would purchase a talent and say, because it draws people to their network, that makes perfect sense.

Yeah, so I think you're going to see, and I think it draws people to their network. That makes perfect sense. Yeah, so I think you're gonna see, and I think it's gonna be competitive. I think you're gonna start seeing like creators, like I don't think we're far off from the idea that, you know, when Joe wrote, because I think Joe Rogan's contract was only a couple of years, you know, maybe Spotify goes, like, oh, that was a lot of money, you know,

sure it was nice to have him on here, but it was, so they don't, maybe they don't renew it, or maybe somebody comes over the top, maybe Amazon Prime goes like, we'll give Joe 500 million to come over to our place. So I think you're going to start to see as big mega companies become more and more aware of the power of these communities that these creators are making. And they have it, because right now, with the hardest part, I think is measuring it. It's how to value it I mean, I think that you and it's not as cut and dry as how many followers or listeners that you have

It's way more nuanced than that. I mean we've experienced that with just the network of people that we have that some people have Millions of followers and they're terrible at converting revenue from that because the type of content that they can have impact then you have small creators that have like a real small Little fan base but boy they they monetize it really well because of the type of content that they create for their community Aligns really well with how they monetize so yeah, I think they're I think these these mega companies are still trying to wrap their brains around You know, how do we look at a Joe Rogan a mind pump or a business like that and make them a legitimate offer that oh, you know, how do we look at a Joe Rogan, a mind pump, or a business like that, and make them a legitimate offer that, oh, you know what? We'll give you all this money to come over our platform and walk away from these others.

I think we're still trying to figure that out. Yeah, I mean, Howard Stern is still on serious exam. And I'm like, do people even listen to serious exam? You got, he had the, I think his deal was even bigger than Joe Rogan's back in the day for that. Well, his was like a 10 year deal, right? He had a map. Look at that up, actually.

I haven't looked up his deal in a long time because it was a big deal when he did it. Yeah, I mean, terrestrial radio is still a thing. You're bringing that up to me the other day. I'm like, wow, that's interesting that it's still got plenty of pool out there in the market. We were all talking about, we were speculating about this. My speculation on it, even though I have no idea, because I actually haven't read anything on this, would be that they did something with the car companies

that really kept them afloat for this long. They did, when you first get a car, you get an automatic free subscription. Why haven't they done that with podcasts yet? Well, you got a corner of that market. Yeah, but you know Radio people's more people still listen to radio, but as cars start to allow you to hook up your phone get more streaming in there It's just gonna change. I would love to see the numbers on that I heard you say that before and I know that's true or was true at least three or four years ago

But boy, it's gotta be shifting. It is totally shifting. Look, talk to anybody under the age of 19 and they would they can't name a single radio, anything or a single network, anything or movie star, but they'll tell you YouTube stars, they'll tell you streaming stars, they'll tell you what's on YouTube. Well, even the day that the DJs, remember how popular and how big of a deal would be to be like a radio DJ back in the days, like it's just that's not, they're not popular. So I've been on, I've been on, obviously lots of podcasts, but I've been on two live, I guess you could call them radio shows, very different. Really interesting.

You only have those like quick, was it like a five minute little blurb that you have and then cut to commercial. Yeah, so I like the pressure, so I have fun with it. Like some like, all right, we're on, right? And you can't, it's live, so you gotta go. It's not like they're gonna cut it, edit it, record it, you know, and release it later. But it's funny, because you'll have their producer come on.

All right, so you have, we got 15 seconds to run, and then you'll be quiet and they'll be like, five, four, and then nothing. Three. Yeah, you see that, and you go, it's like, whoa, this is so weird to fly. You're on. Let's rock it around.

I'm gonna do like Kanye. Remember what Kanye did on, was at the MTV music awards But they were live and he comes out and he goes George Bush doesn't like black people everybody's like The country Hi, I'm cello stuff, but those are people run the country Hi, I'm Salah Stefano. Listen to people run the country. Doug are you Google it over there? I want to know the stats on the radio several you Google it or you

No, I'm preparing episodes here for Andrew maybe you are I was really interested about the radio stats like I know that I've read that before and I know you're right that it was still dominant. But man, that was years ago when I read that. I'd be interested to see how many people are streaming their music than listening to traditional radio now. I've got to think a very small percentage. I'm Googling it right now. 2022 radio reaches 92% of adults in the US every week. 41, yeah, so it's still a big.

I mean, okay, so but do they, because what's happening is a lot of these, like even like news is doing this, news and radio, is they're also streaming it. You mean the numbers for streaming? Yeah, like is that, you said radio reaches 97%. Well here, here, okay, so radio is the leading You mean the numbers for streaming? Yeah, like is that it kids you said radio reaches 97 percent well here here

Okay, so radio is the leading reach platform. So that's what this says. I know but here's my point I'm okay So I listen to like K and B.R. Right which does like sports talk radio and stuff like that if I don't catch it at six o'clock in the Morning on a commute drive I can still go listen to it streamed That's true. So do they count that? No, I think they're listening to literally broadcast so check this out. Maybe the good Google live No, I got this for you. Okay. I'm honest that so more than 244 million American adults listen to the radio Each month there's only a hundred million podcast listeners total around a hundred million So that's just goes to show you right there

adults 50 and older 11 114 million, obviously older people, but remarkably, 18 to 34, 71 million adults, 18 to 34 use radio each month. I think it's just free, it's there. Yeah, but you don't think that they're counting what I'm saying. I know what you mean.

I don't think so, I think it's just broadcast. I don't think it's through. But you know what? That would be you're right because they would count it as radio still, right? Of course, because it's it's it's it is right. So again, listen, it's just that you're able to stream it later on. So I think that's how they've stayed alive and competitive is because of that. It's not so as if you if you built an audience already, right? That you and especially with the older generation and but now you just allow them to access it whenever they want. Because I will, like if I want, so after like a game, right? So the winners play tonight. I consume a lot of talk radio afterwards, because I like to hear all the analysts break down the game and debate some shit and like so, and my buddies and I, we all

argue over who's more right, but it's just like our thing right yeah so but now because of streaming it's nice because I don't have to like for example right after the game is when like those live interviews happen and a lot of times it's like it's time for bed or I gotta go do something else so I don't want like we okay we all watch the game together yeah what you guys don't know is I later on we're in streamed all the live follow up the live interviews later on so does that get counted towards that radio station, that stream or that that I just did I just looked this up. So this is actually kind of interesting. I did not know this as recently as 2017 radio was the most popular method for listening to music

but it's now switched. So streaming has now surpassed just from 2017. Yeah, so 2017, surpassed just from 2017. Yeah, so 2017, 36% of people listen to music through the radio and 32% through streaming. Today it's 31% radio, 41% streaming. That's only going to accelerate. Yeah. And that's music, right? So, I mean, podcasting's got to kind of follow something along. Well, it's interesting.

I've seen deals now where they have like a brand new series coming out, but immediately they package in a podcast with that. So that way they can have sort of the round robin discussions and all that. Like you saw a little bit of that with like, I know there was like walking dead and they had like the fear or whatever the show was called, like right after that, that's just like basically, the rock-walking dead.

Yeah, they talked about all the theories that just like basically got walking down. Yeah, they talked about the theories and just like where it was going and they've done this with a lot of new shows that they're bringing out now with the studios are bringing in that podcast at the same time. So that way like fans know like this is going to be like all a package deal. Well, right now, so Dremont Green is like blowing up, so there's a streaming platform or like a company, excuse me, called The Volume.

That's been around for quite a while on YouTube. And I was unaware of it until Dremont started his show. And because what he's, like so he is like while the season is going, he's podcasting, which no one's done this yet. So like after the game. God that's so smart at midnight Yes, dude is ripping a pocket like breaking down the game that is smart what just happened And it is like it's so he just started it this season. Oh, it's crushing. Yeah, it's becoming someone They're now like ESPN and everyone's talking about what he's talking about on there because that's what everybody wants.

Everybody wants to feel like I just watched the game and I get to hear one of the best people break down what just happened in the game and nobody is really capitalizing on that market as well. And from his perspective, right, there's other analysts that are like, you know, just talking heads that aren't in the game. Well, that's a whole different, totally different. Yeah. So here, there's so many options, like even the Manning Brothers, like them doing like the caddy to like, yeah, some of the games is like really entertaining.

It's becoming really popular, do you know what he's talking about? We're like, while Monday night football is going on, you now get like this, you can stream the game, and at the same time you've got, you now get like this, you can stream the game, and at the same time, you've got you know, Peyton Manning and Eli Manning, the two brothers, two quarterback, you know, Hall of Fame quarterbacks, right, that are talking to each other, and then they normally have like a random guest over there, and they're like narrating the games, you're watching the game, but also hearing their commentary from their perspective, and people are eating

it up like crazy. Wow, it's a matter of time. Yeah. Terry from their perspective and people are eating it up. It's a matter of time. It's going to be, we're looking at probably five to 10 years and streaming is going to dominate such a big way. Broadcast is going to be totally. Well, it has everything you get, everything that you want from live broadcasting, except for at your tight, your team.

And it's way more individualized, right? Because you could find so many shows that cater to you. Whereas when you did broadcast, it was a limited, you had a limited amount of channels and limited amount of ways to put stuff out. So they had to appeal to such a broad audience, whereas you know, you could put out a podcast that's like, you know, women with thyroid issues, right?

You would never see that on broadcast, but it may crush on streaming enough to really warrant that they. Well, if you do a good job, you will literally capture everybody who wants to help me. That's right. Yeah, that's what's great about it. Yeah, no. All right.

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So if you're gonna go lower, you go lower before you add weight. Don't do both because what you're doing is you're adding two additional things on top of each other. They become cumulative and you're asking for trouble. But I would go lower before adding weight all day long. Well, I guess it really depends on where you're currently at too though, right? Like if someone's, they can't even break parallel, or they're just barely at parallel,

that yeah, I would be pushing my range of motion first before I'd way, but maybe somebody's already got a pretty deep squat, and they're trying to get even deeper. Like, you know, so I guess it's kind of a little bit of a nuanced answer on it. But you wouldn't want to do both at the same time. No, that's definitely not. And not only that, I actually wouldn't do, like, so let's say I squat like you said 150 parallel and then I get two more inches with 150 I actually wouldn't go two more inches with the 150. I'd go two more inches with 90 pounds

Right and get good at 90 pounds That's a good point. So in fact you should go lighter. Yes, get the deeper range of motion and then go back to your normal way Yes, yeah, the way I was hearing this and I don't know if like you guys were hearing this at all, but like in terms of like loading it, forcing you to, because of the load, it would, it would help your squats naturally to go a little lower, which doesn't happen in such the opposite, right? If you add more weight, you're more resistant to going lower because you inherently, you know you're not going to be able to dig out of there.

Yeah. You know, with as much force. So that's not going to help you get lower in terms of like adding weight to the bar. But yeah, if you really want to focus on gaining more range of motion, that is something you can pursue, you're going to definitely want to get. Yeah. What I do like about this question is it does present something that is kind of this mental game that you have to play when you decide, or at least what I had to, I had a pretty strong

squad, relatively strong for being a tall and a decent squad, but I hadn't really worked on my mobility and then I decided to work on my mobility. And I remember how humbling it was to have to pull all that weight off. And really, really work on the range of motion. And had I been focused on, okay, I've gotten good deeper, how quick can I get back up to the 400 pound club? If I was focused on that,

I probably would have had some major setbacks where I actually, when I decided that I was gonna really that, I probably would have had some major setbacks where I actually, when I decided that I was going to really work on my squat depth, you know, and my hip mobility and my ankle mobility, because that's what, that's, that's really more important than squat depth, I think we should actually talk about too. It's, it's probably less about you just going deeper and there's probably a limiting factor to why you can't go deeper and that's where the time and energy should really be. So when I went through that, I just completely let go of, you know, trying to be the strong guy in the gym or trying to be even the strong version of me.

It's like, I want to be the mobile version of me. So I'm not going to really focus on how much weight I'm going to choose a weight always, that I can safely move in this range of motion. And I'm just dedicated to getting a deeper range of motion in my squat, which means yeah, I'm squatting with lighter weight and deeper and then I'm also putting a bunch of work into my ankles, putting a bunch of work into my hips and just repeating that over and over and over

and not really being concerned about weight. It's really tough to kind of juggle both. Yeah, I mean, so long as everything's within reason, if the tension is high, meaning it feels challenging, less weight with a greater range of motion is more beneficial than more weight with a shorter range of motion. Now, I say this within reason because obviously you can go too extreme and do crazy stuff, but within good form, good technique, and again, within good reason, if you have to choose between the two, then the better range of motion with better form is going to give you better results, and it's also low risk so long as

you do it right, of injury long term, then adding more weight. And the challenge with this is ego. It was for me. It still can be for me, even at my age, but definitely when I was younger, like, okay, do I go deeper or do I add 20 pounds to the bar? I think I'll add 20 pounds to the bar because it looks cool or not, I could say that I lifted more weight.

And studies are pretty good on this, you know. If this wasn't the case by the way, then the most effective workouts would be very short ranges of motion with as much weight as you can lift. So it would be, and there was a book, I've talked about this in the past, there was this book that came out in the 90s where there was this, I don't know if it was a scientist or a body

boat and they came out and they said, hey, you know, it's all about tension. So let's just go short range of motion and load as much weight as possible. So like your bench press would be like, you know, four inches and it just loaded. Because it's so much heavier, you're going to stimulate more muscle. Well, I went nowhere because that's not how it works. The range of motion plays a big role in how your body adapts. So you're better off, again, all within reason, aiming for that than always adding weight to the bar.

Next question is from Alvaro Gone 22. What are some very explosive movements or compound lifts that really help with explosive and speed training? All right. So there's two things here. explosive movements or compound lifts that really help with explosive and speed training. All right, so there's two things here. One is increasing your strength, just overall strength. Generally, we'll make you more explosive with your movement. So if your squat goes up, and I say generally, because this isn't at some point, you start to get diminishing returns, okay? But if you take the average person, just make them stronger,

they're gonna have more explosive power as well. Now, that being said, you have to consider, when you're training specifically for explosive power and you're doing explosive movements, in terms of the hierarchy of skill that's involved with lifting, explosive movements are at the top. Meaning, you need the most skill

and the best control and the best mobility to do those effectively versus slow and control. So this is, and I say that because people need to be careful because they go to explosive training and they try and do an exercise that they can't do very well slow, then they try and do it fast and you're asking for trouble. So I like to do explosive movements that unless I'm training someone who's really athletic and has the time to really perfect, you know, these high skill movements, I like to take movements that require the least amount of skill and do them explosively to minimize that. So like, rather than doing, for example, like a snatch with a barbell, I may do like

a kettlebell swing, right? So similar kettlebell swing, still high skill if you do a close-up sled. Or, yeah, as you know, stuff that requires less skill so I can do explosively. Otherwise, the risk of injury, you're just... Why? You know, we get questions like this quite a bit. This, they're always word a little bit different

or whatever, but, you know, something that would help our audience when they send questions like this, they actually tell me the sport. Yeah. Because that makes a difference too. Because the explosive type training I would want to do for the, would be different per sport. And I know this person is asking

because they want like generic type of extra sciences. Yeah, like is it would be, would the snatch be great for this? Or would be, you know, this, a box jump be better for that they want like this generic exercise that would translate best sport. But what will translate best to your sport is very specific movements for your sport done explosively. That is going to make

you a better athlete on the field or on the track or whatever. Somebody who's doing track, somebody who's doing football, somebody who's playing soccer, to me, the explosive training potentially looks different. Yes, there might be some similarities of some of the drills you do, but the most bang for your buck type of exercises are going to be very specific to that sport. Yeah, my thoughts around this has changed over the years and talking to like, world-class coaches and how they deal with this kind of risk-reward ratio in terms of like explosive training and because when you get into Olympic lifts, obviously there's like a learning curve

to that as well, like how long do I have with athletes to be able to really establish something that has any kind of benefit to it in terms of like, is there skill, can I develop this skill with this athlete in that adequate amount of time in order for that to then translate for them into the actual season play? So you kind of like look at it all

in terms of what you can accomplish within this timeline. And so that's how I would start to kind of structure that in and what they really wanted to get out of it. And so a lot of times just a jump in place is going to be your best option. Because it's all triple extension is super explosive. Everything's about acceleration. You have to organize your entire body to pull this one thing off. And that's really what you're you're simulating with weight in all those other scenarios, whether it's left to right, whether it's vertically in, you know, in terms of like the velocity that you're in force generation that you're trying to accomplish with it. You can do

that within throws, you can do that within kettlebell swings, you can do that within medicine ball tosses. There's a variety of options for that, but really what it amounts to is what specific skill you're trying to acquire in this time frame and then what are you going to be able to pull off and then how much risk are you going to add into that to get read. I love that you brought that up. In fact, anybody who is listening to this question or this applies to them should go listen to the interview that you did with Joe DeFranco on Joe DeFranco's platform because this

was a big chunk of the conversation. Yeah. Wasn't just around what are great exercises but how do you train a kid or a group of kids that are getting ready for a season And they're at the level they're at to give them the biggest bang for their buck But then also not risk serious injury or no or just waste time with the skill. Yeah, right learning curve Right like teaching a teaching a freshman kid in school How to do a a clean and jerk may take you the whole year to get the mechanics down, and you're not gonna reap any benefits from that,

not as far as on the field, where it's simply doing a tuck jump, or like you guys talked about, an isometric lunge hold in a position that you can do with a whole group setting, like the carryover that you're gonna get for that, that will transfer right away for them and on the football field,

is gonna be more beneficial, then maybe exercises that would be, and this is where studies get like, yes, this is where a study would show. I know exactly where you're going. Yeah, like a study will show like a, a triple extension type exercise, right? Or a snatch.

Yes, snatch or a clean, like oh my god, it's off the charts that what you get from that. And so that's what, that these coaches and people think are even like listeners and they go, why was told this or I read this study and this study shows this,

why are I study nerds that love to point to that stuff? It's like, okay, well what you're not factoring in is this kid's fucking 16 years old. He's not done any of this stuff before. He's got six months before the season. I've got to make an impact as a coach to make him a better player on the field right away. Am I really going to fucking spin? You know, the next six months trying to teach him how to do this with a PVC pipe, knowing that he may not even

get it by that time, much less get it and then actually be able to progress it to actually transfer any skills on the on the field. Like, you don't people don't think about that. No, I like what you said about just a regular jump. A regular jump in place. By the way, that's also, I want to be clear, requires a certain level of skill because you take your average middle-aged client, 37-year-old, you know, 40-year-old, when I'm mom or dad or whatever, and they come in and they're like, I want to get explosive. And then you have them just jump as high as they can, and they don't, they haven't jumped since they were, you know, in middle school or play sports. That also requires a certain level skill and you'll get injured.

Well break that down, you know. Like, I mean, even just landing and landing softly and, you know, being able to control your body and getting full extension at the peak of your jump and like, there's just, there's a lot more little nuance in there than people realize. Yeah, nonetheless though, I would say generally speaking, a jump in place is a great place to build explosive power because it requires less skill than all the other explosive movements that I can think of.

You'll get a good carryover unless you want to dedicate a long time to learning how to do some of these incredible. Well, the other one that I would add to that is, and this is, you know, give credit words, do Joe DeFranco, the sled. Yep. I mean, I think that's why he went that direction.

Totally where he was. Because the care was fast, the care was right away. Exactly, because he figured that out, because he was actually out there in the trenches, really helping all these young athletes, trying to get better at their sport. And it's like, yeah, I know all the studies, what they show about this, you know,

the snatch and what it could do for them. But what I realize is that I'm training a group of kids at a very young age that don't have the time to build that. What I could do is I could put them on a sled, very low risk. Low risk, low skill. Yes, low risk, low skill. Lots of carry-offs.

Lots of carry-offs. To me, many sports, right? So that I would push a kid in that direction is, you know, I mean, there's, and there's a tremendous amount of exercises that you can do with that sled with lightweight, slow, heavy grinding weight, pulling the sled, pushing the sled, lateral stuff with the sled. I mean, there's so many great things that you can do with the sled for an athlete that will carry over into most places.

Yeah, but consider this, if you can't do an exercise perfectly slow with good with high tension, you're not going to be able to do it fast with low tension because like if I did a really good deadlift perfectly and then I go I'm going to go light and do it explosively. Now I'm including speed and deceleration, which I didn't deal with when I was going heavy even with perfect form. So consider this when you're doing explosive movement of all the ways to train your body, the one that requires the most consideration is explosive training because it's fast. So when things happen fast, if there's a little bit of a breakdown, you can multiply it times 10 in terms of how can affect your body. Next question is from Micah2448. What are some of your favorite and most effective modes of exercise outside of resistance training? Oh, personal, I guess. I mean, for me, it's got to be generally being active. But when I do

kind of targeted mobility, active stretching, I get a huge benefit from that. And I think for me, personally, I just generally am tight. So for me, I get just a huge benefit from doing that. Infer clients, I also saw a huge benefit from doing that. Infer clients, I also saw a huge benefit from them doing that as well. When they would do kind of targeted active stretching, targeted mobility. Now, and I saw great benefits for them as well. But now, now the question is why, why would you see such great benefits? Because it made the resistance training more effective. That's why. Because resistance training is so effective at giving you good

results at giving you general health and helping you get leaner and sculpt your body and all stuff, that the stuff you do outside of that, if you can pick something that will make that more effective, like if you could, if you could pick something that will make your resistance training more effective, then you're probably picking something that's going to give you the most paying for your buck. So I'm gonna give a lame old man answer. So young me would be like, basketball, wakeboarding, snowboarding, those are all my favorite things.

And they'll still, I still love all those things and would include that into this. But what I would say has been one of the biggest for me and this was a shift in my life in the last 10 years or less and that's walking. Yeah. I figured you'd go with that. And that's walking. Yeah. I figured you'd go.

And I just, it was not something that I ever focus on and I focus a lot on it now. In fact, we, I mean, Katrina and I were at Roy's yesterday one of our favorite places to eat over in Pebble Beach. And, you know, we've trained ourselves to do this, not just for the exercise part, but also for the conversation that we have and the beautiful view and being present in the moment and getting disconnected from electronics.

I've just found so many positive things to connect to just going for, and it's easy. We could do it for three hours. I mean, you want to go for a nice long hike. You're going to need to put workout clothes on. That's right. And I could just go for a long walk and just enjoy great conversation and the scenery and you would be blown away. By the way, a long three hour stroll along the beach will burn way more calories than the most intense one hour workout you've done.

That's how beneficial it is from a calorie burn perspective, which everybody measures as their success of their workout. You get all these other side benefits like that I'm talking about with the connection with my partner, with being disconnected from the electronics, from the enjoying the views. Super low risk of injuries. Yeah, so it's become something that I just, and it's so easy for me to get motivated to go do it.

Right, obviously getting ready to go down, to put on my basketball shorts, you go play basketball, it requires me to do some stretching and mobility work and get ready for all that and drive to a court and find a court and find someone to play with. Like that takes a lot of energy. It's really easy to talk myself out of some of those other modalities of extra, which I love and I'm all pro.

Walking is so easy. It's so easy not to talk myself out of it. Like you said, I cannot have the greatest shoes for it. The greatest outfit for it doesn't matter all I'm doing is walking. So that's my old man answer. Yeah, I mean, since you already covered mobility, which would be it would be in my pick as well,

it's kind of basically, I guess you'd classify this as resistance training as well, but I don't think people really think about this in their thought process of like rotational movements for me grabbing tools like Indian clubs or like unconventional tools like a mace bell. Just working on that type of throwing circular type movement is just something I've implemented over the years. And it doesn't take a lot of thought for me now because I've been able to kind of work on the technique and the skill of it where I just pick it up

and I start swinging, it doesn't have to be programmed into my workout, like I just do that because I know what I'm doing is I'm reinforcing that priority with my body to be able to protect and re-en-like, to stabilize and mobilize my shoulder joint. It's just been amazing because I've avoided so much pain and my abilities in the gym have definitely gotten better in terms of, like, my pressing ability and also my, what I do with any kind of movement in the upper body, it's been really helpful.

I love that answer Justin, and, you know, this funny thing about myself and my fitness journey is, something really gets solidified or I really piece it together when I do something consistently and then I stop doing it. And then I, and then I see where I get fucked up or something bad, like so for example, to your point, I've really tried to adopt that from you.

You've always been really like, and I actually was on a kick for a while there. You probably remember there was a time there where you would see me swinging the clubs, swinging the mace in here pretty frequently. It was doing stuff at home, I thought, just trying to get in the habit of doing rotational stuff that I just don't really do inside my workouts or my daily life anymore, because I'm not as active or I'm not as athletic

because I used to be. And I fell off of doing that. Well, just recently on the podcast, I shared and you guys know, like, boy, I got tore the fuck up, just shoveling some sand for fricking, you know, when I was, when I broke the glass and I had to show, because I haven't done anything rotational in quite some time. And I really think that had I been continuing to do swing in that mace club and stuff like that around, my core stability and strength and rotational strength

would have been there way better than had I stopped and then went and did something abnormal like that. And it just highlighted that for me like, I could get back into swinging the mace again like I was before. And like you said, it's so simple. You can just grab it real quick, swinging around for 10 minutes.

You gotta do a crazy workout. No, not at all. Now, I do wanna say this for the average person, the most important thing you can do outside of your resistance string or strength training, this is the criteria. What do I enjoy doing? And what am I most likely to be the most consistent doing?

Because whatever that is, that's gonna be the best thing. Bottom line. Which is why I push towards the walking. I feel like it's the one. That's for most people, that's it right there. Right. Next question is from Cammy Cake 21. What old school training techniques should make a comeback?

What a timely question. So I was reading an article today about Eastern European bodybuilders Okay, and how they trained differently than Western bodybuilders or American bodybuilders now at the moment You're starting to see some Eastern American Eastern excuse me European bodybuilders Make progress and pro bodybuilding and do really well so people like how do they lift or whatever? They do a double split routine and because in in Eastern Europe, there was such a, they were such like Olympic lifting,

like during the Cold War, the Eastern European countries, the Soviet countries just crushed the rest of the world, Olympic lifting. So they have a lot of that influence. So how do they work out? They do practice, it's kind of strength-based training in the morning, and then at night, they come back and do kind of more bodybuilding

style training. Now what does this have to do with this question? Even here in the US, back in the day bodybuilders do a lot of double split routines. I think splitting up your workout, that is, first of all, it is a classic old-school training technique. There's tremendous value in doing that, tremendous value. Now, of course, the issue is you've got gotta work out twice a day instead of once a day. However, if you can do this,

I think you get better results, even taking your normal workout and cutting in half, doing half in the morning and half a night, I've done this before. My performance is better, my recovery is better, my ability to handle load and handle volume and whatever, so much better, this is something I think more people

should experiment with. And then to counter the argument of, well, time is an issue. You know, for some people, it's easier to do two 20-minute workouts or two 30-minute workouts than it is to do one 45-minute or one hour workout. So for some people, it actually works better, schedule-wise, but that would be my pick, Hunter. Well, I'm going to stick with it and probably still Justin's answer before him. And stay with the Mayspell at Indian Club direction because I just think that, and that's old, old school. That's before most any of the stuff that we see in our gyms today, right? And I just think it has tremendous value, especially for the, I mean, when I look back at my client portfolio of all the people

that I have trained, how many of them had just limited range of motion in their shoulders and their hips, like it was like just areas that just end up, and it at a relatively early age too, like I'm talking about 40 year old clients, 50 year old clients, that lose this ability to do very basic stuff because they stopped moving that way. And we all kind of naturally do it as kids when we're hanging on monkey bars and we're playing

sports and throwing balls and doing so that. And then we all get into work life and you just kind of forget about that stuff. And then you always just say, well, that's when I was young, or you always go back to like, making the excuse of you being older, what it really is is that we just stop doing that movement. And it's such an important part of staying healthy and functional long term. So I think that those need to make it come back

because it's so complimentary to regular traditional strength training we all talk about. Yeah, I totally agree. I think another one, and maybe Justin's even, I want to steal us from you isometrics. Is that where you're going? Yeah, I was, Well,

Well, Well, Well, Well, Well, Well, Well, I was, I was actually thinking a little bit different, but yeah, isometrics for sure, I'm like, you know, the isometric evangelist, I'm the rotational, you know, evangelist,

I'm constantly trying to harp on those to make them more popular because it's so beneficial and just people's overlook the carryover that that brings and what that does to fulfill a lot of needs your body has. But what I was actually thinking, because it's old school, I was just thinking of some trainers I know that have brought some of these old techniques, like especially for training any kind of explosive athletes or boxers specifically, like I know this guy Ross, I forget his last name training, but like he has a lot of his clients working outside in the elements a lot. And you know, running outside and real dirt and like, you know,

chopping trees. And so you saw this kind of make a resurgence when CrossFit and some of these garage gyms, we're popping up everywhere and people were doing tire strikes and stuff with the sledgehammer, which is all right, but honestly, laterally chopping trees in terms of core and hips

and generating power and force and then velocity has like amazing carryover for athletes. And I think that's something that's totally overlooked. Huge. I do want to touch back on isometrics because isometrics was a staple of training back in the day. It was a, like everybody used isometrics as part of the training because they saw tremendous value.

And it fell out of favor and that's too bad because of all the things that we just talked about. If you look at the studies, if you talk about double split routines and using rotational movements with Indian clubs and macebell and like you said, the lateral explosive movements or whatever. Look at the studies on those, all good stuff.

Compare them to the studies on isometrics. Doesn't even hold a candle. Isometrics, the studies on those, all good stuff. Compare them to the studies on isometrics. Doesn't even hold a candle. Isometrics, the studies on isometrics, if you're not sold on it, look them up. There's almost nothing that will... Oh my God. The, the, the, the, the, the, what it will do for your body in terms of strength, power, muscle, control from one thing, and then, and then here's the crazy part. This is what's crazy about this. Very unique about what I'm talking about. Very minimal damage to the body.

There's almost nothing that will produce those results, but also not hamper your recovery that much. So isometrics, that is a, for most people, if you do it right and you program it right, game changer for your team. And the old school strength athletes knew this. They did this all the time. Yeah, you can target problematic areas in your lifts better than any other modality.

Like if you focus on isometrics and really, you know, lasering in on, on where the dysfunction lies or where the, the drop of, of production is happening. That's something that you can immediately improve. And again, less damage, no damage, you can always let off, and it's all self-generated, so it's just one of the more safer modalities out there and very effective.

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