Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1848: The Importance of Protein Quality vs. Quantity, How to Choose a New Gym, the Effect of TRT on Fat Loss & More

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions from the Sunday @mindpumpmedia Quah post. Mind Pump Fit Tip: For more stamina, the best time to do cardio is at the BEGINNING of your workout. If you want more strength, lift weights FIRST. (3:27) Letting things go in pursuit of your true passion. (6:23) The pros and cons of technological advancements. (20:06) It’s about the little things in life. (23:31) Justin’s visit to cheese haven! (25:37) Cockroaches are becoming almost impossible to kill. (31:32) Super Gonorrhea is a thing. (32:25) How oils from plants can protect your body from harmful bacteria. (33:34) Mind Pump’s favorite flavor of Organifi protein powder. (35:21) A couple of communist jokes from Sal. (36:42) Busting the mystery surrounding the Bermuda Triangle. (37:18) Mind Pump’s favorite/most embarrassing snacks they ate as kids. (39:25) #Quah question #1 - Does it matter where I get my protein as long as I get enough per day? (44:31) #Quah question #2 - What are the major factors you consider when looking for a new gym? (51:00) #Quah question #3 - What’s a good body fat percentage for a woman bulking? (55:49) #Quah question #4 - How does TRT affect fat loss diets considering extra water retention, etc.? (59:40) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Special Launch: MAPS Cardio, plus two special e-books for $77! (Ends 7/3) **Promo code CARDIOSPECIAL at checkout** June Promotion: Shredded Summer Bundle or MAPS HIIT 50% off! **Promo code JUNE50 at checkout** Beyond 2000 - Official Channel - YouTube JRE#1828 Michio Kaku Scientists craft living human skin for robots -- ScienceDaily Casu marzu: The world's 'most dangerous' cheese Cockroaches are becoming immune to insecticides. New Super Gonorrhea Strain Detected, Causes Sexually Transmitted Infection In Austrian Man Bermuda Triangle is no mystery, ocean scientist explains What are the doldrums? - National Ocean Service Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 15% off your first order** The Myth of Optimal Protein Intake – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1220: The 4 Best Sources Of Protein How Your Genetics Influence Your Muscle Building Potential – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1565: Why Women Should Bulk MP Hormones Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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If you want more strength, lift weights first then do cardio at the end. How about never? Never. Team no sweat. Stop it. No sweat. No sweat.

No, you know what's funny? Is that this is, it's got to be one of the most common questions, right? When do I do my cardio before after weights? No, it's good advice. That's good advice. It is and if you want, I mean studies are pretty clear on this If you want stamina, then you do it for whatever you want the most adaptation from whatever you want to prioritize There you go. Where you want to place it in your workout. Absolutely. And this is true for strength training too If you want your shoulders to respond more than your chest, you can actually hit shoulders first. I know that's like a big faux pas, right?

Always hit chest first, but studies are pretty good with this. They show that what you do with the beginning of the workout tends to get, not a huge difference, but it's a difference, and that's where you tend to get the most gains. Has there ever been a time in your life where either one of you did cardio before you lift your weights? I did. Just curious. I did. You did. But I didn't assess it. When did you want to be a cardio bunny? I didn't.

I got a weightlifter. Just the bunny. No, I because I had leggings. Yeah. No, I never had leggings just. And you know what it was? It was because I didn't have. I've never tried. I love. because I didn't have. I've never tried my last. You know, it's funny. I'm gonna get you guys. I have those tight spanked eggs, like workout. Man, were you speaking one of me before those?

Yeah, because you wore them and you wore shorts after work on top of it. So I could see that. Pro is way worse when guys wear no shorts. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying don't wear anything. I cover them with pants. So you even know I'm wearing pants. That's over here. I thought you were literally just rocking the leggings

and doing your deadlifts. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no before I had my driver's license. Is that really cardio? Is that like, I guess transportation? That counts. I counted it because my parents' house was like three or four miles away from the gym and I wanted to go to the gym so bad. So I'd ride my bike all the way to the YMCA. So that's your example? I had to for group workouts for football. We had to do morning conditioning at like 6am. Jazz or size?

Jazz or size class. And then we'd go from there to weightlifting in the middle of the day, just because of how it was organized. But yeah, I never preferred it that way. That was always a struggle for me. But yeah, if you want stamina, you gotta do it first. So the athletes that I would train athletes, depending on what we were working on, and not a lot of my clients were athletes. Most of my clients were always, you know,

average people, but when I had athletes that really wanted to improve stamina, then that's what we would do with the beginning of some of our workouts, is I would do conditioning work or high intensity interval training. And then at the end, we would go to more traditional strength training. How awkward was it for you training athletes? and we would go to more traditional strength training. How awkward was it for you training athletes? Yeah. I just feel like, not that you couldn't program for them. I know you have the intelligence.

Well, I was a serious question. It's a very serious question. I feel like, obviously, you're smart enough to program for them. But I mean, that's only a small part of being a good trainer. You gotta talk the rest of the time. So what's the conversation with Mike? I know, ask me questions about how many times

you show them how to throw a ball, right? Listen, I didn't do that just for you. I'm just picturing the conversation right now because when you have a client like that, if they're an athlete, they're obviously into watching sports. I understand movement. I know how all the traditional sports are played

and what the rules are for the most part. Careful, you're stretching it now. No, it was probably as awkward as me trying to tell somebody I presented physique on stage. No, no, no, you're stretching it now. No. It was probably his awkward as me trying to tell somebody to present their physique on stage. No. No, no, way less awkward than that. Yeah, yeah. So no, dude, you don't get, you,

just ain't, doesn't even get awkward. You get like annoyed right away. Like we can't even have a conversation here that could go that direction. And you're just like, that sucks. Yeah. Like a, like a,

well, no, I don't, I don't eat a little girl. I like you, like you don't wanna talk about this. No, I like talk. Bodybuilder stuff a, well, no, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't mind talking about sports. It's when, it's when you guys get all in the weeds with the players and the percentages and the thank you guys are taught like training basketball cards or baseball cards. I'm like, all right, come on guys. That's a nice, especially you.

You get all into the statistics and Steph Curry, 37% increase in his rebounds. And you notice, you know, I'll come on, you know, nobody cares about that. Nobody got traded to the whatever and, you know, and his dad did, I'm like, how do you know so much about these people? Pay attention.

It's the bet, you know, that's what I think, you actually, I think it was you who pointed out when we were talking about, like, you know, sports is the closest example that we have to like war on the day to day basis. I know. And football is probably one of the best, I would say, even though I'm a first, a basketball fan and then probably a football fan.

So football, just because there's so many players that you have to coordinate. Yeah. You know why I think two football mirrors more and more than any other sport that people play to try and kill each other on the other side. No, besides that, when you have like, if you look at conventional war, you know why I think two football mirrors more more than any other sport that people play. Try and kill each other on the people. No, besides that. When you have, like if you look at conventional war, you have a Navy and Air Force, you have your ground forces. Football, name a sport when you have such different players.

Like look at a corner back versus a linebacker versus a linebacker. That's exactly my point. Is it, you have such a diverse group of people and so many of them that have so many different roles? And I mean, God never thought of that way. There's aerosol, there's ground assault. There's so you have all that. Yeah, you can't have it.

You can't have it. And she's just like warfare, like whoever, like it's the most ground is the one that's going to, you know, eventually take the game or take the war. I feel like the more you understand about a single sport the more interesting it becomes because that's the best part about getting into a sport is learning all the behind the scenes and the details and the back stories and what's really going on with the play. The drama you like the drama?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So there's even like a business aspect too that I actually really appreciate about sports. I mean, they actually, they have a salary cap and they have a certain amount they can invest on players. And so, you know, one of the things that like the season's over for the warriors right now, the things that my buddies and I, but a bunch of geeks that we are,

that we're like, we're already like doing the math on like, okay, we're gonna be able to resign clay, we'll build this then we're, but we know someone's gonna pay someone so this much, so we're gonna lose this person like so. You get into like, okay, who's our draft pick away? Yeah, who's available for this and how can you piece together another person who can fit in the group? Like so. It's crazy how much brain power goes into something like that.

No, not because I think it's silly, but it just goes to show that when there's a market for something as big as there is for. No, you know, it's so much brain power goes into, like, think about the... I had to, like, I had to let go of a lot of sports because of that, actually, that exactly. There was a big, too much time. No, that's the truth. That's the truth.

There came into both that and video games. It's where to go. That was a big, that was a big pivotal point in my life. There was a point in my life in my early 20s where I was following hockey, baseball, football, and basketball, religiously, like all four of them, okay? Like just the way I am about the warrior,

that's all I got now. That's all I got for you, is the warriors now. Before I had everybody, I had all my teams like that, and I knew all the backstreet, and then I was also playing video games. That was consuming so much of my life that I really believe that it had a lot, it's stifled my growth.

I wasn't spending it reading, that's for sure, or listening to audiobooks, or listening to podcasts, or researching anything on my craft. And I was working making good money, but I was kind of hovering there. It was when I started to let go of a lot of that stuff. Is that something you, what are the things that you've obsessed over the most in life for periods?

Was it that, would you say? Sports and video games, really? Yeah, sports and video games. Sports and music for me, yeah. Yeah, oh, I'm still, it's a good music I believe we'll be out there too. I was pretty obsessive as a kid. I used to be somebody who would buy the album and listen to everything, read every lyric. I remember when the CDs used to come, so the kids that don't know CDs at the disc.

Dude, I love the artwork, I love the lyrics. I wanted to know what, like they put into it. You know, it wasn't just like the song itself or like the catchiness of it or whatever. I'm like, what were they feeling in this? You know, like I always was trying to like get in the mind of the artist. That's, this is the hardest part about growing up, dude.

About getting older. Yeah, you don't have time. I love all those things still. I love music like that still. I love sports like that still. I love sports like that still I can still pick up the video gamer now and then and get into it too But you just you let go of a lot of that stuff in order to do other things that are more important obviously Spitting time with my son and my wife or

Don't you wish he becomes obsessed with one of those things of course Bro, why do you think I dragged the fucking basketball hoop out every fucking day? Just you know hope the god He comes over wants to play puzzles. That's what we're doing. Do it. You know the puzzles. Yeah, so I guess so you know, so yeah, no absolutely I think I said I think every dad probably hopes that your your son or daughter falls in love with a passion that you had as a kid That I can reignite it and then I have a good excuse to bury myself at it again, right?

Because he's into it or whatever. Don't you'll find something, I make my oldest son heal if we get into, I see him light up. So if we have friends over family, and we're all talking adults, and he'll pipe in here and there. But then if it gets philosophical,

all of a sudden he's like a machine. He's going into existentialism, and all these philosophical, I'm a sudden he's like a machine. He's going into like existentialism and all these philosophical and these deep conversations like we were talking about Mexican food. I don't know why you're going over here, but he goes into it and I can see that. Okay, this is fun. You know, that's how I was too.

Yeah, well those things have carry over into being successful though, I feel like that's like unfortunately, unless I found, obviously if I found something in Sports broadcasting and got lucky that way or I got something into music got lucky that way Those things would really benefit me or video gaming. There's obviously careers No, things but if you're not gonna pursue a career in one of those avenues They really do end up taking up a lot of space that is gonna help you potentially grow and I mean I I mentor my cousin who's he's still like a hardcore gamer.

And this is like, and I remember having my buddy who was older than me, who would give me a, tease me about playing video games still when I was like 30 or I were late 20s. I was like 28 and I still playing video games. And he was like, bro, when are you going to give that shit up? When are you going to stop playing that? I'm going to do it forever, you know, that's how I feel, right? Totally believe that. And, you know, his argument to me was just like, okay, dude, whatever, if I'm spending an hour or a night

or two hours, some nights playing things like that, like that could be knocking books out, like crazy, that will in turn help me in whatever thing I'm pursuing in life, right? And so that was a hurdle I had to get over like as far as letting that stuff go, and then started carving out more time on things that were going to be. If you guys saw the stuff that I obsessed over as a kid, you guys have been like, what

the hell is wrong with like sharks? Or I'd read books. Well, you were like a certified true nerd. Yeah, I mean, I thought I would think of something and I'd be like, I want to know everything about that thing and I'd just read about it or then I got into fitness and I'd literally go to the library and Read the most obscure books on fitness and muscle fibers and chemistry and supplements and just go just nuts with it I used to love doing that. I used to read there was this one book. I used to like to read there was I had to find it It's really cool. This artist created fictional aliens that would live on every planet in the solar system. So what they would have to look like, how they would have to evolve for the atmosphere. So it was such a fascinating, I had to find out.

So what do you think, okay, because Katrina would make the argument that we're all very much so the same in this aspect. We just have different things that we're nerds about. Yeah. Right? She would call me a nerd too, even though I wouldn't call myself a nerd. She'd do, you're totally a nerd on the things that you're into, right? So what do you think it is?

Because the way you obsessed with that, I was probably obsessing over athletes or songs or things like that. Was it somebody in your family or you just naturally drawn to that? Like you remember, or did you have a group of friends that you guys all played like magic cards and stuff like that, you're talking about this. I just played that just in Dragon's Imagine.

I played a little bit. Don't lie, you don't lie. You did too. I did. I'm, I'm, listen, like I was very diverse, you know? Like I was like athlete, but also like undercover nerd, like total undercover nerd, especially with like science fiction and futuristic tech. Like I was always on the

up and up with like what like scientists or whoever was working on like popular science, I was like super. Do you remember that show beyond 2000? Remind me. Okay, by the way, this is so funny. Back when we were kids in the late 80s, which were young, so I was like, you know, like it's like a futuristic show or something. Or, you know, in my teens in the 90s, 2000 was the future. Like anything 2000 was like 2000. There was a show called Beyond 2000.

Do you remember Doug? That show? You remember? So the show was all about like the newest cutting edge side. I want to see you. I wonder if they predicted anything right? Anyway, it's a freaking obsess over the show. Yeah. Cause it would show like I wonder cause they they there was one. I don't know if it was a TV show that it showed this guy that would always just obsess over the future. And he

was like talking about communities where they had these hexagonal pods and everything and they were trying to make it all environmental friendly and all this way back in the day. He speculated that we would be communicating instead of with letters and words and all that with these holographic characters. And we would just know, just by a symbol, what it meant. So that was supposed, okay, that was supposed to be happening right now. And we've kinda, I felt like we've kind of stalled

on that, like the whole introduction of like emojis and stuff. Oh, I see. There was a lot of people when that first came on that agreed that we are gonna move away from like the traditional English language and move to more characters. If you look at historically, because you could put more together.

It will, it'll happen, it's a matter of time. It may be not information. It's the right information though. Maybe not that, but there will be a universal language at some point. If you look at languages historically, the easier it is to travel and the more communication we have with far distances, the more language starts to become homogenized. So like, for example, where my family's from in Italy and Sicily, right?

Old countries, but around for a thought, obviously really, really old. There are dialects in different regions and there are ways of pronouncing certain, like there's Sicilian, but then there's like, like Palermo Sicilian, there's Katanya-type Sicilian. And that's because back in those days when those languages were used, like people didn't go very far, you had a donkey, like you're not going to go very far, right?

And then of course, Italian became the official language of Italy and so on. So as we go further and further and as people communicate easier and easier, at some point, there's going to be a universal language. That's going to be, that's going a huge boom to, to progress and economics. That's a big barrier, his language. Well, yeah, because even what I forget his name, Michio, Michio Kaku. Yeah, he was on Joe Rogan Taken, because they were speculating, because with Neuralink and Elon Musk, like trying to map, you know, the brain and like how all these electrical

impulses kind of organize together to create language like that we would end up almost telepathically like communicating at some point, but there's still that. The barriers language. Barrier, because I would be doing all that in English whereas somebody who just knows Japanese, like we would have different associations

and different delivery. Not just that, you know that language affects how you think. So people who speak different languages like we would have different associations and different, uh, delivery. Not just that. You know that language affects how you think. So people who speak different languages will think slightly differently because of the way that the language is present certain phrases, whereas... Sure, that explains why some people get insulted

by certain comments versus other, other, other countries don't think of this. Well, I mean, just, even as simple as like, we write our date, month, day, year. Most countries do, I think, what do they do? They do, uh, uh, day, month, and then year. And then the month. Like, stuff like that, like, we may put a particular type of word at the end of a sentence

whereas other countries might put it in the front. That actually can change the way that you think. I was just holding. Reading left to right versus like, yeah, from the bottom up, or, you know, there's different ways of people approach it. Really weird. Speaking of like, yeah, like the bottom up or you know, there's different ways of people approach it. Speaking of like, like future stuff or whatever, I just read that scientists in Japan,

I swear to God scientists, don't watch scary sci-fi movies sometimes. They just, they made, or that's what gives them the ideas. Maybe. They made human skin, so they grew cells in the lab and made skin. And through using a certain type of new technology scaffolding,

we're able to make the skin grow and wrap around a robot hand and finger. So it's human skin on a robot. And it had a fingerprint. They've been watching a lot of Westworld. Bro, that's straight up terminator. Remember terminator? Yeah.

When he's like, I got machine underneath, but he's got the, you know, remember he cuts his arm open, it's almost just right, whatever. Dude, it's going to be weird. So they can actually graph skin to metal? They, they did it on, I think it was a finger or a hand and they touched everything, said, oh, it felt like a, like human skin.

Oh, that's going to be weird. Well, you know, that's going to have, yeah, it's, if they can do just that little bit, like, then now it's like, this this is gonna be a whole scientific effort. I wonder if, obviously we're gonna be alive to see like some of this transpire, but are we gonna be like the clunky era when they're like, they're super clunky and like totally weird, patchy, or be active or gone before they're like. My cynical part of me is like, because on the one hand, it's like, oh my God, we could create limbs for people who miss limbs, we could do all kinds of cool like, because on the one hand, it's like, oh my God, we could create limbs for people who miss limbs,

we could do all kinds of cool stuff, and then the other side of me is like, they're gonna make sex robots, that's what they're gonna do. They're gonna put skin on a robot, and then you're gonna people- Well, that's how they'll pitch, like, the advancements of all that is like- Of course.

Or liquid it does for burn victims, and liquid it, meanwhile, they're like, outfitting some like psychopathic robot. That's my prediction on how they're gonna push the metaverse on so many people. I just think that it's gonna help a lot of people that are like completely plagued by being out in society and have all these disabilities

and like it's gonna be a good thing for a lot of people. And because there's a lot of people that it's gonna be good for, it's gonna be pushed as like this awesome thing. And then everybody's gonna get sucked in. Not everybody, a lot of people will. Name one revolutionary breakthrough that didn't have a dark side.

Yeah, nothing serious. Anything that has that much power to revolutionize humanity also has a potential negative. Anything, name it. So like fire, oh yeah, fire really helped us, but you also can use it and war on the burn people, nuclear power. Yeah. I mean, you go down a list of war and like a burn people, nuclear power. Yeah.

I mean, you go down a list of all kinds of, you know, technological advancements, like the advancements they can make with. Apple pie is probably the wrong with apple pie though. Hmm, make you fat. That's true. I don't know, was that a breakthrough though? Yeah, it was a breakthrough.

I had a good apple pie this week. You said a really good apple pie. You dropped your apples in my pie. Oh my god, what did you just invent? Seriously, that's the best for me. Real a good apple pie. I had an amazing apple pie. For me, it's my number one dessert.

It's better than even cannoli, sorry. With an egg. It eats vanilla ice cream though on top of it. Oh, I can't do ice cream. Oh, here's another. Oh, that's like a waste of an apple pie. Now, do you like the apple pie with the sugar crystals on it?

Like crumble. Like I like the crumble. Oh yeah, you're good. You like more sugar the better. Yeah, we're gonna wash it down with some ice cream. My mom makes an apple crisp. You know what apple crisp is? So it's like oatmeal, she uses oatmeal,

but it's like crispy and it's gluten free. So Justin would like it. Oh okay. And it's a, you know what I'll bring you guys to my house in my right now, the house. And I've been watching you looking at it in the fridge and just having a conversation with myself like no I'll bring you how's your week being empty home, dude. That's not like you have an empty home I watch TV all day yesterday all day

All day All day I ate breakfast I sat down like you know, I put my legs up, you know on the chair Whatever and I was like I can just watch TV right now and that's just sign flow. Oh, yeah, whatever I want to get now You know halfway through fall asleep turn oh wake up. Oh watch something else all day When I send the backyard for a little bit I better get some said You know, it was pretty wild and done that and so long. Katrina and I had I guess the second side was. It was pretty wild. I haven't done that in so long.

Katrina and I had her brother, her brother took Max overnight. And so he picked him up in the early the day before and had him all the way till the next day. So we had him like a full 24 plus hours. And so wild to just not have a kid. You get so trained with having a kid 24, 7, that everything in your life modifies. We had this moment. It was hilarious. We're pulling up the grocery store and continue goes, okay, I'll go run and get this and that. I said,

I looked at her and I go, I can't come in with you. And she looked at me and she goes, oh, oh, that's right. I guess you could come in with me. As every time we go to the grocery store, a lot of times we're just getting small things, like one of us waits out with Max or Max is asleep in the car. So it's always like one person goes in it. Before we had a kid, we go grocery shopping, we both walk in the grocery store and we go grocery shopping.

How fun is grocery shopping with your girl when you don't have to go anywhere? It's like trying to pull every which way. Yeah, she started laughing. It was like, oh my God, she goes, that's so true. She's like, we haven't done that. We haven't gone in a grocery store together and probably like three years.

It's always like somebody's not with me. Yeah, like the little thing like that or you know, sitting around watching, like you want to run, you want to run this back and watch two episodes? You want to go back to back right now? It's like, oh my God, dude. Yeah, I love it.

I love going grocery shopping. If we just Jessica and I, we just walk through and, hey, we should get this, we're gonna try this cheese. Let's get this chocolate. Okay, what do you want to make tonight? That might take a while. That'll be fun. You know what I mean?

When you have kids like, go, go, go. We ain't got time. Oh my God, it's me and cheese. Like Adam finally took me to this place in Carmel. It's like the cheese shop, I guess. And it was like, so when you walked in, were they all like so excited to see you? You know what I was?

I was like, come on guys. Mr. Andrews. He's here. Everybody get ready. The king has arrived. The cheese, the king has here. Cheesemeister. You imagine.

Yeah, they push a button. It was overwhelming for me. I had to step out. You did it. Yeah, it was like Courtney, you got to pick a few, you know what I like. I like more of the sort of hard cheese, more like sharpened cheddar kind of direction to that. And so she picked quite a few out,

but this guy that was there, I guess helping her out, she asked them, what was your favorite cheese? And this guy was raving about this one specific cheese. I don't remember the name, it was real fancy. But it was like, I'm so glad you don't remember the name. This is a terrible story. I wish I knew what it was.

I'm so excited to hear about it. Literally, I could like tell you, because I posted it in my story and it's in the, it's on the label of it. Is it like French or it's in the time? Yeah, it's French. Do you remember what region, okay, so you did get it's like, it's French. Do you remember what region? Okay, so you did it.

Yeah, it's French, but it was like, it was a softer heart. It had, it was hard to have these little pockets of salt in it. Oh. So you didn't realize it until you started eating it and then they would just like enhance the flavor and it was, it was so fucking good, dude. I was like, I gotta get a whole wheel of this thing. So we're like researching, and I guess,

besides getting like on the monthly cheese subscription, which I didn't know is an option either, you can order on a pine and like get a ship to your house. Oh, this is beautiful. I'm totally doing this. But we didn't even eat dinner. Like I made the whole night, we were just like, we had this like plethora of like,

I don't know, six or so different cheeses. And we're just sitting there trying them and drinking wine. That's, that's Katrina Nais. Because our favorite thing to do is go down a car mile. You go to that place. What's cool about it is like, I mean, it's cheese from all over the world.

Yeah. So if there is a cheese that is famous somewhere in the world, it's at this place. They have it from everywhere. And the guy who's behind the counter, the people that work behind the counter, like they know their shit, and they'll give you a cheese,

and then they'll actually pair the wine that goes best with a cheese. Oh, that's so fun. It's got every wine you could think of all the cheese. It's a really cool shop. Yeah, I can, obviously can do dairy, but I'll do a little bit of cheese here and there, but back in the day when I could have dairy,

I went on vacation to, we're in Paris. I went to this nice restaurant and they brought out a cheese cart. So they wheeled out a cart and they had like levels in the cart and there were different countries and different types of cheeses. It was such a great experience.

I found it. What is it? Mimolette. So M-I-M-E-L-E-T-T-E. You know about that, so you know anything about that? Sorry, I don't. Wow. I've been to the shop though. Oh, you've been there. That's a great shop.

Oh, look up the pictures. Hands down best cheesers. I like, change my answer. Everybody asked me on my stories all the time and I'm always like, you're trying to get some, do you like fancy answer? I'm like, Mimolet. Do you like, like, really, really, really strong blue cheeses?

Yeah, I like it. You know what I don't like? Yeah, I don't like the stinky, real stinky stuff or the too soft. Like there's only a few soft cheeses I really like. That's kind of like not my favorite. Do you know that there's a cheese in Sardinia? I think.

Sardinia's in island off the coast of Italy, right? Thanks. That you're welcome. Geography lessons. It's in the Mediterranean. Help me, I appreciate that. Yeah, is an island off the coast Italy, right? Thanks that you're welcome geography lesson It's the Mediterranean help me that I appreciate that yeah south of Italy to the left. It's it's got maggots in it Oh, that's not good story. No, no, no, maybe Doug can look this up. It's a it's a it's a specialty So you know cheeses think they let them mold like you say that about anything nasty Yeah, that's a delicacy. That's how they close. Now, I'm looking up Mimolette cheese, okay?

And it says, if case you're unaware, the FDA has cut off supplies of Mimolette, a beloved French hard-aged cheese, as it feels that the microscopic mites on the rind, oh, essential for creating the cheese you see in flavors. Oh, no. Mike caused an allergic reaction. That's what it was, that's trollopussies. It was amazing.

Just as I thought it was crazy. Yeah. No, so a lot of cheeses are weird like that. Doug, maybe you can look up. It has mites. Oh man. My dog is trying to out. I think my dog's got mites right now.

Oh, this cheese is good. It tastes good. No, look up the Sardinian cheese with, it's got maggots in it. And maybe pull up a picture. It's a real thing. And you take the maggots out. Okay.

So you're gonna have to take them out. No, it's a lot of maggots. So I mean, there's some protein there. I don't know if dog you can switch the screen because I want to. So yeah, so it's costume martesys. Oh, there you go. Yeah. And there's maggots in it, but you take the screen because I want to. So, okay. So, it's Katsu Mart's. Oh, there you go. That's it.

And there's maggots in it, but you take the maggots out and then you eat the cheese. I, apparently. I don't know. Maybe that's a whole picture. Yeah, it's a traditional Sardinian cheap milk cheese that contains live insect larvae. maggots. I'll find a picture here for you. It just gives you an acquired taste.

It's more protein. Okay, yeah, but you pull the maggots out. So what's the point of like allowing them to live because they what they do is part of what they do is what gives the cheese its flavor. The way it molds the way they eat it and probably create some weights. They're gonna create their own juices. Maybe dude.

You like honey, right? You know, honey is this bee puke. Yeah, these are different though. They're different. Isn't that weird? Yeah, a lot of those things. Like, what was the other one I just learned? It was about like lipstick, I believe there's a lot.

That's what I said. I said, beaver, I used to be a little bit more like the shimmery lipstick or whatever is really just like fish scales. Wow. Yes. You might as well just rub a fish on your face. Oh my God.

That's the Scott speaking of insects. Did you guys know that cockroaches are slowly becoming invincible to pesticides? What? Great. This is a big, this is a big deal. They really are going to look at this nuclear real. Look at that. That's the cheese. Look. See, it's full of maggots and they.

Dude, how is that appetizing? I don't, I would eat it. You just gotta get the maggots off of it, dude. He's like, hmm, yeah. Oh, wash it down. Wash it, wash it. Looks really good. No, so, or wine.

So, in the industry, in the pest control industry or whatever, they're, they're obviously, you have to be, you have to know what's gonna work on, on insects and pests. They've become so resilient. Cockroaches apparent, so you know the whole joke, like the last thing that'll be left on Earth when the nuclear war, right? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, because they don't, they don't die with radiation. Yeah. And the pesticides, they stop, they're stopped.

You got to stomp them a few times, too. They're literally starting to get the point where they're going to become immune to pesticides. So, you know, I'll get to the point where I have to be, like, yeah. Speaking of evolving, there was a man, I don't remember what country he was in, but I know he went and had, he had sex with a sex worker, I think, in Malaysia, came down with gonorrhea, and it wouldn't go away. They've identified super gonorrhea. Yeah. Wow. It's antibiotic resistant, and they had to throw this like cocktail or drugs at it, but they're like We're gonna it's some point as he's gone. We have power

Got good news and bad news got good news and bad news bad news is you can fly got you in bad ass area good news is you're super here oh yeah super good I didn't want all these powers no with great power cuz your responsibility that sucks is he the only case yeah great no I'm gonna worry about this spreading now like well you have to have sex for it well so not gonna cancel it just as I have any

sexes out your sex is not your... No, I'm gonna reply. Unless your spouse gets it from somewhere. Oh, okay, let's see. One of those things. You know what they're investigating, though, for antibiotic properties because there's antibiotic-resistant bacteria?

That's a big deal, by the way. Yeah. Like, scientists are really scrambling because at some point we're screwed. Antibiotic isn't gonna work anymore. They've been looking to plants and how plants naturally have antibiotic properties. And for some reason, the bacteria don't adapt to plants' defense systems.

So for example, cannabinoids, that you find in cannabis and hemp can kill certain bacteria. And there's other oils and extracts from plants that have these particular properties. And is that attributed to their mutations and there's natural selection within the use? So plants that have some of these oils on them

and some of these compounds, I mean, they obviously evolve for who knows how many hundreds of thousands or millions of years to ward off certain fungus, certain bacteria. And they, because evolution takes so long, it's like superior to antibiotics in terms of alcohol. I feel like you're setting the table for Organify Protein Powder commercial. No, no, it's for Caldera, actually. Caldera has a natural plant next track for you. That was a terrible thing. You missed the part. Yeah. That's what I said you wanted.

Now Dara's got plant next track. Yeah, what you know your skin. Oh, because you rub it on your skin. You rub it on your skin. I think you can zoom. I think you can zoom. And the studies sold in the jumpstart package instead of the new one before.

And the studies show it helps with wrinkles, blemishes, and probably it has some good bacterial balancing effects. Now I would think, okay, so that's, okay, you're thinking for skin, I was thinking from like inside of you, so I think what you got to take in. No, no, we're gonna fight as an antibiotic. I'm gonna stab.

Really good protein balance though. You know who's been using the protein powder like crazy? My mother-in-law, like crazy. So she's changed her diet, and I'm having an increased protein intake. She can't do dairy and she's you know Okay, most your family like that or is it just a couple? No, that's Jessica is Jessica's mom. So it's not related But she can't do dairy so we're doing Organify protein and so she's a she's not a fitness consumer So like if you give me a protein powder,

if I think it's good quality, I don't really care how it tastes, the average consumer, I know this when I share a protein powder with somebody, I'm like, okay, I hope they like the taste of the way they want to drink it. She loves it. She likes the vanilla. She's been crushing it twice a day,

and it's working well for her. I've never been in the chocolate. I've, vanilla has always been my favorite. Cause you can mix it with other stuff. And I think the organically, you're good on nachos. It does. No, it does the best because I any plant protein powders,

but in organifiers, right? So does best, I think, with tardy flavors. So blueberry strawberries. Oh, Tarty. Tarty. I understand. Tarty flavors. Is that a word?

Can I say tardy? Tarty. I guess you can. Tarty a word, Doug. Tarty. Or just Tarty flavors. I don't know. Tarty is like Tarty Tarty flavors. Is that a word? Can I say Tarty? Tarty? I guess you can't. Tarty a word does. Yeah, maybe it's Tarty flavors. I don't know. Tarty is like Tarty. That's Tarty. That's D. That's D. That's D. That's D.

That's D. That's D. Tarty. Tarty. Maybe. Look it up, Andrew. Tell me if it's a word. It's a new word. If not added. Add it to the library. Yeah. Pretty good. Yeah.

Hey, you guys want to hear a couple communist jokes that I heard? Yeah. That's D. That's D. That's D. That's D. You're going to hear from couple communist jokes that I heard? You wanna hear from the two? You wanna hear from the two? What did the communists use before candles for light? Electricity. That's messed up. All right, one more.

One more. My friend who lives in North Korea said, hey, what's the like living there? He says, I can't complain By the way, Tarty is a proper word. Oh, yeah, damn Tarty dropping knowledge on you good dude. You're good. Hey, you've ever used that as an adjective Just anyone here something crazy. So I've been reading about the Bruneu to triangle and you know what the Bruneu to triangle is It's an area where unexplained stuff happens when people to part where people go, ships disappear, planes, compasses go off.

That's pretty good. Yeah, you gotta get out of this lug of stuff. So you know what they did? So they did the math and the percentage of ships and planes that go missing in the Brumuda Triangle is no greater than anywhere else where there's an equal amount of chiropractic. Yeah, it's just a numbers thing.

It's because there's so much traffic that flies between there that that's what happens. Okay, and here's where I find out. I think they're hiding something. Yeah, they're full of shit. No, but isn't there a patch in the Atlantic ocean like down close to there where it gets a lot of like this really weird still, like there's no wind. Oh, the doldrums.

Doldrums, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's like that contrast, like creates a really weird sort of a weather system around it. Yeah, so I think doldrums refers to anywhere where that would happen. But it happens a lot within that particular region. There's a region where there's no wind.

Well, I mean, so this was a big deal back before we had like steam engines and powered boats where you just just caught in that and you don't move at all. Yeah, you get caught in the ocean and it's dead still and you're basically like, we gotta wait it out because there's nothing we can do, which is gonna sit here.

There's no current, there's no nothing happening. But yeah, I think there's a place near the Bermuda triangle that does that. Yeah, I mean, there's some wild theories, like obviously, even the Dull drum. The Dull drum. Is that a spot or is that just for factual location in a little north of the equator?

Goddamn, Justin. I just, yeah, just an hour. Remember the name though. You know what it is. It's Justin and I, I remember random things. Yes, you guys do. Worthless random shit. Worthless podcast stuff. That's true. It's thing. Yes, you guys do. Worthless random shit. Worthless podcast stuff.

That's true. It's so relevant now, you guys. We have nothing to talk about for 45 minutes every day. Yeah. Yeah. The world is so weird now. It's like we've just been trying to figure this out. Like put all these pieces together, like a jigsaw puzzle,

you know, like where is this all end up? Like where are we going? Okay, I did want to ask you guys this because, where is this all end up? Like, where are we going? Okay, I did wanna ask you guys this because I thought about this earlier, speaking of random. Did you guys have a favorite snack or treat as a kid that is embarrassing to admit right now? Like if you were to say, oh yeah, I like this and we looked at it like, what is that?

So I used to eat those, you remember those little mini breads takes a new dip into cheese, the handy snacks? I think they're called. Oh, the handy snacks? Yeah. I think they're called handy snacks. Take a look. Yeah, it was a little plastic tray.

Oh, yeah, it was a tray. And the cheese is cut. And then you just get the little breadstick things. No, it's still there. No, there was a red stick. Yes, yes. And you spread it out in the pan. And you make like a little cheese cracker.

I told you guys about my easy cheese like phase. The cheese whiz. Yeah, where you just, like out of a can, like on everything. Was it called a handy snack? No, no. Yeah, that's it. Look it. I don't think it was called handy snack.

Yeah, it says handy snacks, isn't it? Yeah, it's handy snack. Oh, it is. Yeah, that was right. That's it. You didn't work her line. You know what I had the generic brand. You know what I still love?

I just saw these the other day at the grocery store and I brought back all these memories. Mother circus cookies. Oh, I love those. Do you know what those are? Oh, the pink and white ones. Yeah, I do with the sprinkles on them. Yeah, I love it.

What a diabetes just nightmare. Oh, good. I like it. Oh, it reminds me of the little debbies. I used to have the oatmeal cream cookie. You remember this? I do. I do.

Little debbies was fire. It was like, yeah, it was cheap. It was always like 25 cents or five. Remember the pie you get for 25 cents or just. Okay, I was just gonna say, roast. If you worked in construction or you worked for people, could I obviously my dad was construction so I'd go with him for work.

And every guy, that was their dessert after lunch. It was a home run pie. Yeah, home run pie, that's what it was. Home run pie. Get him his quarter. Get him for quarter. 25 cents. Yeah.

Which today, I was almost 15. And it was a lot. That was like the, like, the most history of that. Here you go. That's exactly what it was. Thank you. And remember on the package,

shortening and just like sugar. Are you a big home run pie guy? That was not know. What did you do for snacks? Yeah, Doug Well Doug was a kid it only cost two shekels I mean I would I would eat Some hostess products here and there but not we didn't really have them around the house You want a big twinkie guy? No, I was not. Don't tell me you're raisins. One of the things I ate when I was a kid.

No, that would be nice. I'll tell you, it's a box of raisins. I hated raisins when I was a kid. That's what I was doing. Because my brother-in-law gave me a box of raisins once, and I was in a dark place, and I was... What? I was eating...

What? What? It's good to eat. You like to start that story? Yeah, I was eating Continue What a pitch black but I was just eating them mindlessly and then I got to the bottom of my Box of raisins and there was like maggots at the box Literally a dark place like the room was dark the room was not a dark place You're like, you're talking about literally a dark place. Like the room was dark. The room was not a dark place.

That's how that depressed. I was depressed eating my raisins. Is it a dark place? No, raisins are really safe. I could not eat raisins. Of course, I figured I ate a few of those. When I was a kid, if you gave someone a raisin cookie and didn't tell them, you they'd get in a fight with it.

They would be upset. Cause it looks like a chocolate chip. You would, that would be, get your ass kicked in junior high and you cannot trade raisins. Like I was always trying to, like mom, so give me these things. I can never upgrade, you know, I'm like, give me a full roll of marbles.

What's the good raisins and throw them in the wall? If you empty the box out and blow through the box, it will. It will be the result of it. Wow. You guys did the same thing. And with a blade of grass, do you do that or you take your thumbs and you make me sick.

Like Sam Fier. Andrew doesn't know who Sam Fier is. Sam Fier, there were late night commercials on TV and Sam Fier played a flute like Pan. Pan flute. We've lost all of our audience that was born to the 90s or so far. That's all right. Watch on the YouTube channel, he'll put it up for you.

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Does it matter where I get my protein as long as I get enough per day? Well, it depends on what you mean by enough. If your protein intake is on the high end, okay, let's say you're eating like 0.7 grams of protein per pound of body weight, or one gram of protein per pound of body weight. It doesn't matter. Studies will show that plant protein, animal protein,

dairy protein. If your protein intake is high enough, you're gonna get high enough amounts of amino acids, because that's what makes up protein, and it's not gonna really make a difference. Muscle growth and recovering everything's pretty damn similar. Now when your protein intake is lower than that, which I'm going to be quite honest, most people watching this don't eat that much protein. They think they eat a lot of protein, but they don't, if you actually do the math,

they then it does matter. If your protein intake is less than, let's say, 0.6 grams of protein per pound of body weight, then animal sources of protein tend to be superior to plant bases, excuse me, plant based sources of protein. Now I would say if you do go with plant proteins, make sure that they have multiple sources. So like we work with a company called Organify, and they're not just a single source of plant protein, but they use multiple sources with complimentary amino acid profiles

to give you better results with that results with a lower protein ache. But otherwise, if your protein, it takes high. Doesn't really matter. Do you think this applies on a day-to-day basis or do you think collectively, if you've been consistently low on protein, that it matters most? Like what are you saying?

So if it's high, but then one day it's low. Right. It matters every day. Now of course, the more days that are low, the more it's going to matter. But protein usage and turnover so fast that, in other words, it's not like energy from fat or carbohydrates that get stored. Right. Protein, you don't really store it.

You don't have a really usable source of stored protein in the body besides muscle. And you know how hard it is protein in the body besides muscle. And you know how hard it is to get your body to use. I mean, you don't want that to happen. So it does. It makes a difference on a daily basis. So, you know, if you're going to travel and you're not going to have high protein

because you're on vacation or whatever, that's when it makes sense to have a scoop of like way protein because of the, or eggs, right, which is really high quality. But if you're protein, it takes high all the time. Doesn't really make a big difference at all, you know. Do you, have you guys noticed ever a difference for yourselves when you eat less? Not if I, not feeling wise, but I do,

I notice a huge difference in just how quickly I build muscle when I'm consistently hitting my numbers. And when I, and then versus when I think I'm eating enough protein, or as many times where I'm consistently hitting my numbers. And when I, and then versus when I think I'm eating enough protein, or as many times where I'm like, oh yeah, I'm having an up protein then I actually start tracking. I'm like, oh wow, I'm kind of under eating by a good 40, 50 grams every day consistently,

just simply bumping that up like instantly into a sedate. Well, if you're like a hundred, let's say you're a hundred and 30 pound female, okay, 130, 140 pound female. You're gonna want to eat at least 100 grams of protein to hit the high limits, 100 to 140 grams of protein. That means three meals will have between 33 to 50 grams of protein.

You show the typical female who weighs 140 pounds or so. Here's your meal, it has to have 40 grams of protein. They look at it, it's like, that's a lot of meat, that's a lot of chicken, that's a lot of egg. Like how many eggs would give you a 40 grams of protein? Like five or six, six. Six, yeah. Most people only need six eggs in the morning, right?

If I'm low on protein, usually like the biggest thing sticks out for me is like how I'm flame my body as a meal, it's just because I would be eating an in replacement of that calorie wise, it's usually not ideal, especially if you have any kind of intolerance, that's something that is a glaring difference for me. But yeah, that's really the recovery for me is better if I'm making trim, focusing specifically on protein every day.

That makes a difference. How big do you think the individual variance is in this too? Like, I think of a ex-girlfriend I had that I've shared about before, who she was a competitor and she used to, when she'd die of her show, she would like, practically starve herself 800, and like, muscle would still stay on her. Oh, that's, yeah.

And then there would be someone like me who I swear when I'm under, just slightly under, if I'm under consuming protein, like my body just refuses to want to build anymore. And the minute I bump it up, my body responds to that right away. So there's got to be a genetic component, of course. Of course. So there's this generic, general advice that most people should be hitting this, this marker. And then there's that individual variance of somebody who's listening right now, like,

oh, I never attract my protein. And I'm always fine. Well, you might be that individual, like my ex girlfriend was. And then there's other people who are like, Oh, yeah, I think I do. And they never really pay attention. And then they pay attention. And then, oh, wow, their body really starts to fall. This is also where you get the studies on like collagen protein is good for your nails and your hair and your skin and your joints. It does make a difference if your protein's not super high, which again, most people are not in that high limit all the time. So if you're eating, you know, under like I said, 0.6 grams of protein per pound of body weight

and a scoop of collagen protein, you will notice a difference in your hair and your skin and your nails. That's what it makes a big difference, but you know, back to what you were saying Adam, you know, I've talked before about that one dude that worked for me, didn't have much money and I looked at his meals and he had like a pop tart for breakfast. And he was so strong, like skull crushers with 225.

I calculated his protein intake per day. It was around 40 grams. He was a 220 pound guy. So like genetics, yeah, they pay a huge roll. Yeah, you know what nobody talks about is insect protein. That's the next thing, dude. Right? Yeah, I mean, they could pack so much protein

in those little bodies. Well, especially those cockroaches, whatever, yeah. Oh, I'm gonna move it. You know what, though? They're my protein. It's hard to convince people to make shakes out of those.

Well, even if it tastes good, because all you need to see when you get your scoop is one leg or one little antenna You don't want to do anymore plus how do you know if there's bugs in it or if it's from the process The sustainability like you know, that's what we're hoping for we got to convert people to I don't want to ruin it for you guys. They already allow a certain amount in all that stuff. I know there's already like a A certain amount of rat poop that they allow. Yeah, certain amount of mice and bugs and stuff like that. Yeah, so I mean, when you get your supplements and protein powders, you want third party tested

and because you want super high quality because if they go just based off of FDA standards, it's not very good. Yeah. Next question is from James Ares 95. What are the major factors you consider when looking for a new gym? Oh, good question. What should you look for hot front-backs girls? I mean, that's what I used to look for as a 17-year-old boy. Of course, you know, you're 17. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no, you know what? You guys didn't do that as a young boy, but I was so obsessed with lifting weights. That all I cared about was really the weights. What about you Justin? Don't lie. Yeah, but I was so obsessed with lifting weights that all I cared about were the weights. What about you Justin? Don't lie. Yeah, do I mean that? Okay, good. We're being honest right now. It's not one of my decisions.

Environment is what I chalked it up to. You know, that's a nice environment. Yeah. When I was 17 years old, I was working out primarily to attract girls in the first place. So going to a place that had cute front desk girls for sure. From 17 to 40.

That's what you were doing. I, you know, I, so here's what I recommend people look at. I think this is very important, okay? Cleanliness. Very important to look at the cleanliness of the gym. Go during prime time. So like six o'clock at night, seven o'clock at night. Go through the locker room, look at the floor,

look at the sinks, look at the pool, because I manage gyms for years, okay? And it can get pretty bad. Well statistically speaking, it's the three Cs. Cost, cleanliness, and convenience. Those are the three, the three. So they've done stuff. That's what people want to do.

It actually done, they've done enough research on this. And those are the three most important factors for the general population. Yes. Cleanliness, convenience and cost. Now, from coming from people like us who manage gyms and fitness professionals, what do you think it's like, what do you think that's not for me? Yeah, for me, I mean, me today, it's obviously not the front desk rope answer anymore. It would be like, I want, so what I like is a place that actually has multiple squat wrecks and deadlift platforms.

Oh yeah. Because that is the worst thing to have to wait for. Because typically my workout routines are so many exercises. Well, most of my workout routines are built around those two exercises. I mean, that's like the normally the crux of the workout, if I'm not, unless it's maybe bench presses the crux that day, but most of the time it's deadlift or squat is

where I'm starting and spending my first 20 minutes. And so if there's only one or two racks and there's already two people working on it, like that could just ruin that workout. Yeah, you know, it's a new, and I agree with you on that, but you know, in a new consideration for me, these days is if they have a turf with a sled, yeah, in know it's a new, and I agree with you on that, but you know what a new consideration for me, these days is if they have a turf with a sled, in which it's like something that you'd never see back in the day. More common now. Yeah, a lot more common.

Now you can actually find a gym pretty easily that has that available for you soon. You know, I do wanna say, because so I just bought my dad a membership over at the club sport, which is a really nice place, right? Since it was at Silver Creek down here in San Jose. And my dad would never, my dad's, you know, he's a poor immigrant. He would never spend more than $10 a month on a gym membership. But I got it for him because he

wants to go, he likes to use the steam room, sauna kind of stuff. And he's been going to his, the local cheap gym. And I took him in and he walked around, he's like, wow, this is really nice. The truth is, you get what you pay for often when it comes to gyms. Now what's funny is that people will bulk at spending 80 bucks a month or 100 bucks a month on a gym, but they would have no problem spending that much on streaming services

or on their cell phone. That's such a good point, so I like, that's a, it's so funny how we are that way. Like, well, we've been conditioned by 24-finishes and plan-of-finishes where they're offering- They should be like $9. Yeah, $9. To $20 something dollars.

And so, everybody, which I used to get really annoyed working in like a nice or sport box where people are conditioned for these low prices, like, dude, the amenities that you get for that price is crazy. Also, you know who works out at gyms that are $9 a month? Everybody. Everybody. So if you like overcrowded not enough money to pay staff

to clean it properly, not enough money to pay staff to walk around. People do ninja moves on cable machines all day. And also like an equipment goes down and you go to a gym that's inexpensive and it's down for a month or two months So I mean it's so true. You do get what you pay for it You do if it does sound like a lot of money to pay a hundred and something bucks

But how many things do we pay? Way more than that if you work out consistently every week Okay, if you go two or three days a week Spending money on a really good quality gym is worth its weight in gold because it's because all the things that I talked about it's it totally is so that's what I always recommend people but I look at cleanliness how much equipment is broken you could tell you could walk through gym and see if anything says out of order if you see more than

one piece of equipment with that says out of order not a good sign and then go there during primetime or the times that you like to work out. What does the crowd look like? What are you dealing with? What's a good body fat percentage for a woman bulking? Oh, that's actually a good question I would say you probably well, okay, wait a second here because I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge. I know we're going Yeah, I don't I don't care what body fat percentage you are here's a fine bulking though exactly Well, okay, here's a problem like I think bulking is such a is not a good reverse dieting is a better way to say this Yeah, cuz bulking sounds like I'm trying to add tons of weight right right and I and we'll need to turn a lot of women For me exactly which is why I don't want to yes, which is why I don't even like saying that here's a deal

I mean a bulk a reverse diet is essentially the same thing. You were adding calories, additional calories back into the diet. Why simultaneously doing string training? Wow, trying to build muscle, right? Trying to speed up the metabolism, build muscle. That's right. That's a very, very good point. So even if I had a obese woman come to me,

I would probably not probably, I for sure would put her on a quote unquote bulk or reverse diet to start her out. Almost every time or every time in my career that I had somebody that overweight, they had yo-yo dieted so many times that their colore can take was really low considering how much weight they had on their body. And I didn't want to just cut them from that point. You didn't have a lot of room. Right. So if she came to me or he came to me,

the one we were talking about a woman here, if she came to me and she was 45, 50% body fat percentage, this was really high, I would still bulk her or reverse diet her first. Very good point. So just to illustrate it further, if somebody had to lose 80 pounds, 80 pounds of body fat, okay? And you do that,

you have them track their calories and they're eating 2500 calories a day, which for a woman doesn't sound too bad, right? However, we need to lose 80 pounds. That's going to take a long time of cutting those calories down. We may end up at 1,000, 1,000, 1,100 calories at the end of the weight loss and then we're totally screwed. What do we do now? Your metabolism's running off of these really, really low calories, so that's a really, really good point.

I like to get, I like to start people on a cut when their calories are high enough to where I can cut from them and be comfortable. Which is like, not high enough on their own, but high enough to where I can cut. Which is one in a million. One in a million. You're gonna get, especially someone who's coming to you who wants to lose body fat rarely ever

are they in a healthy, colorek place for you just to start them on a cut. So almost always do you have to start off with like this reverse diet slide. But a reverse diet is not, so bulking, it kind of refers to the old school method of bulking and bodybuilding where you were just trying to pack on As much weight as possible a reverse diet's much slower. Yeah, so you're not gonna take someone from 2500 calories

Like oh cool. We're gonna reverse diet. Here's 3500 calories. That's way too much Honestly, what it looks like is of real generic way is you are eating when you're hungry but making whole food healthy choices And you're training to get strong. Yeah. That's what it looks like. You don't need to be force feeding. I wouldn't be putting, I wouldn't put my female client on a bulk where I'm telling her to like stuff down extra calories or gain her shake. It literally would be, listen, when you're hungry, I want you to eat. I want you to be satisfied and I want you to make these type, and I'd give for examples of types of meals, these types of choices, whole foods.

And if you're hungry again, eat more whole foods. And then we're going to, when we train, we're going to train to get strong. That would be the goal. And then what happens is you see strength things go up, and eventually the strength transfers becomes muscle. And then because you have more muscle and because you're building more muscle and moving in that direction, metabolism starts to speed up and then you start to see body composition change. So the scale doesn't move but the person becomes leaner as they build muscle and then eventually

they stop building tons of muscle and the fat loss starts to really happen. And that sets you up for success. So I'm glad you went in that direction. Next question is from Lock legs, legs locks. How does TRT affect fat loss diets considering extra water retention, et cetera? All right, so forget the water retention aspect of it because going on TRT, if your hormones are controlled and accounted for, you're not going to get tons of water retention. This is why, by the way, so we have a site, mphormones.com, and we're working with a group of doctors.

And what you pay for when you go to a good place are the doctors, not the testosterone. There's every place that does TRT has testosterone, and it's cheap. The doctors are what you pay for to monitor this kind of stuff. So I did want to say that because if you're on TRT, meaning you're on enough testosterone to bring you into good normal levels, you shouldn't have all this crazy water retention and stuff like that. That's usually some, they're not balancing you out.

Okay, so that's gonna side effect. That being said, okay, low testosterone is connected to lower muscle mass and more body fat. Higher testosterone, all within the range of normal, is connected to more muscle mass and less body fat. Higher testosterone, all within the range of normal, is connected to more muscle mass and less body fat. So if you look at the studies on TRT, men going on TRT, and I think they have some with women, some studies with women as well,

because women also have testosterone just much smaller amount. But in the studies, they show that just putting men who have low testosterone, on testosterone to bring it up to high normal, not even working out, not changing their diet, not that I recommend that I think, if you go on T or T, good time to also really down your diet and exercise.

But in these studies, just going on T or T, they lose body fat and they build muscle. Because testosterone indirectly is a fat burning hormone, indirectly in the sense that- Not to mention, it's also sending a signal around the clock 24-7 to build muscle. So, if you eat, this is like one of the biggest things that I noticed when I was off of test australum for that extended period of time and then I got back on therapy. One of the things that made me feel the best was this was just simply like I could eat Like and I did before the muscle. Yes, it would actually I would actually build muscle

So I got leaner much easier than when I was when I was off and my hormones were in the tank during the dump I I was dieting and still Struggling to lose any sort of body fat at all and even slightly eating off the diet felt like it just stuck to my body. So do you think this question then, it's more related to probably the diet on some level like whatever they have included in their diet that's could create this water retention? Well, if your testosterone goes crazy high, you're going to get a level of water retention that you can't control, okay? But if it's monitored properly, it's the conversion to estrogen and other factors where your hormones are low off, that tends to cause

water retention. So you shouldn't see, once you get to the point where everything's balanced and monitored, you shouldn't get all this water retention. Well, this question is, okay, how does TRT affect fat loss diets considering extra water retention? First of all, those are two separate things.

Fat loss is one thing and water in your body is totally different. So they're not even related in this sense. So they don't affect each other. Like your water, holding onto water, not holding onto water does not affect your fat loss. And your fat loss doesn't affect your water retention or not.

So they're separate. Yeah, now testosterone is gonna say is, it does burn body fat indirectly. So it's not a direct fat burner, but because it signals the body to partition calories to muscle. And because of the metabolism boosting effects of the more muscle, fat loss tends to happen.

So what you tend to see from anecdote, from people who go on TRT, is they'll build strength, build muscle, and then you start to see fat loss. Not unlike what we talked about earlier with the reverse diet, where you reverse diet, someone get their muscle to come up, and then the fat loss starts to happen.

So that's kinda how it works out. But again, you don't just wanna go on testosterone and be like, this is cool, all right, great. Because it has a count of four now. Yeah, how your body reacts and responds and how it converts some of it to estrogen and how you feel all these things need to be looked at by somebody who knows what they're doing

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