Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1858: How to Build Muscle With Kettlebells, Using Strength Training to Reduce Arthritis Pain, the Ideal Order to Complete MAPS Fitness Programs & More

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Contrary to popular media propaganda, meat, eggs, and milk are the most nutrient-dense foods on the planet! (3:11) Sal has stamped his seal of approval on Seed. (13:35) Adam’s Organifi “Peanut” Brittle desert. (16:52) Sal recommends UnXplained with William Shatner. (21:13) Justin recommends Westworld on HBO. (33:57) Another brilliant move by Apple. (35:45) That one-time Disney gave Robin Williams a Picasso for being the Genie. (40:35) Is your favorite Hollywood star on anabolics? (44:25) #Quah question #1 - What order should your programs be completed? (57:17) #Quah question #2 - Can kettlebells build muscle? (1:06:44) #Quah question #3 - How would you describe training to technical failure to someone who doesn’t push themselves hard enough? (1:14:20) #Quah question #4 - What are the benefits of strength training with arthritis? (1:19:10) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01 Daily Synbiotic** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** July Promotion: RGB Bundle or MAPS Suspension 50% off! **Promo code JULY50 at checkout** Bill Gates just won legal approval to buy 2,100 acres of North Dakota farmland worth $13.5M — and people are ‘livid’ about it all across the state Watch Alone Full Episodes, Video & More | HISTORY Channel Watch The UnXplained with William Shatner | Netflix How Traumatic Brain Injuries Can Unleash Extraordinary Hidden Talents Elon Musk confirms he welcomed twins with Neuralink exec Shivon Zilis Infant brains develop years faster than we thought - ScienceDaily Westworld | Official Website for the HBO Series | HBO.com WWDC 2022: Next-Gen Apple CarPlay Can Make Any Car Instantly Cooler Than Ever Don’t blame gas station owners over sky-high prices, drivers tell Biden Robin Williams Given Picasso After Disney Beef Over Aladdin Does Chris Hemsworth Use Steroids? Chris Hemsworth's Steroid Cycle - More Plates More Dates New Thor 4 Photo Shows Natalie Portman & Tessa Thompson's Heroes Together How Celebrities Get Ripped So Fast (5 Actors That Got Huge For Movie Roles) Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout** The Ultimate Mind Pump Programming MAPS Fitness Prime MAPS Symmetry MAPS Fitness Products – Build Your Avatar How to Choose the PERFECT Kettlebell For YOU?? | MIND PUMP How To Overhead Press with Kettlebells | Mind Pump How to do a Proper Kettlebell Swing (Don't Make THIS Mistake!!) How To Do The Perfect Kettlebell Press Bottoms Up Kettlebell Press Tutorial for SVKO Wild Card Event 3 Turkish Get-Up Variations - Tutorial with Kettlebell Master of Sport Efficacy of an 8-Week Resistance Training Program in Older Adults: A Randomized Controlled Trial Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned More Plates More Dates (@moreplatesmoredates)  Instagram

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There's almost no foods as neutrally dense as what I just said It's true. There's almost no foods as neutrally dense as what I just said. Do you just see this in an article like that? Like, I'm not commonly believed. Contrary to anything, it's not, dude. People think, okay, I'll tell you guys why I brought this up. I wrote something along those lines on Twitter,

like, hey, contrary to this popular media, meet eggs and milk, most nutrient dense foods on a plant. Somebody gets on pissed off. That's not true. If you ate those, they're not healthy. You gotta have fruits and vegetables, okay, yes. Ideally, you wanna have a variety of things, but it is true that you would get no nutrient deficiencies,

very unlikely if you just ate meat, for example. Not as ideal, but you wouldn't, I said, name one plant food. What you can live off of. Yes, solely. I said, name one plant food you can do that with. And this person goes kale. Let's see.

Oh, I see it. That's sort of good. Oh my God. Look at that. Have you seen it? I'm like, if you just eat kale, watch naked in a frame. Or alone.

Yeah, watch alone, dude. Yeah. No, and by the way, when I say nutrients, people, you know what the problem is. You've lasted long at all. We're always hearing about phyto nutrients and antioxidants and all these exotic things. And yes, those are also in food.

That's a micro-nutrient. Yeah, those are in foods and they may have some value, right? But when I'm talking about our proteins, fats, and carbs, so those are nutrients, only two of them are central, proteins and fats, and then also minerals and vitamins that are essential. And you can get away with just eating meat and not have a nutrient deficiency.

You can't say that about any other food. And that's just the fact. And those foods are very healthy and inappropriate diet. And I do want to say appropriate because if you overeat, then almost anything becomes unhealthy. But if it's an appropriate calorie diet, it's not heavily processed foods. Like those foods, historically, forever, we've known them to be healthy. It's just this propaganda that comes out, and I do have a theory, is to why they push so hard, you know, that we got to just eat plants.

I have a theory around that. What's that? Money. Yeah, definitely. Today, it always boils on to you. Yeah, that's never a stretch. I know, right? Now, to date, because I say to date, because who knows if this is going to change in the future, there is no GMO beef, chicken, fish, eggs, or milk.

And that means you can't patent your milk, you can't patent your cow, right? You can process, you can have processed meat products and patent that, but I'm talking about the whole natural part. You can't, there are patentable, whole quote unquote natural plants, like soy is GMO corn is GMO and they can do GMO almost anything that's plant and it's very easy to patent and then you control the market and it's a ton of money that the profits on that are do you think that we're moving

in a direction to patent those things though? Oh, I, oh yeah. 100%. I think they already have GMO salmon. I mean, what do you think? Did you see that? Did you see the news to about these? Bill Gates? Yeah. Another two, another 2000 acres. Why is he buying all the form? He's up to 270,000 acres. His mission is to get everybody to lower reduce the amount of meat that they're consuming and consume more plant-based meat and all these other products. Did you see what the, the, the other part of that is? Is that they're pushing now, you're starting to see more and more,

and you're gonna see more of this. Insect? Insects. Yeah, well we talked about that one day. Yeah, that to me makes sense. It does, but what they're trying to do is make it so that we don't eat meat, milk, eggs, and then, oh, here's your insect patties,

and this is where you're gonna get. You're gonna get your insect patties. Yeah, I know, this is where you're gonna get your... You're gonna get your... You're gonna get your... Yeah, I know, this is where you're gonna get your... Remember when we had those chips way back there? When we were finally promoting it. Oh, the cricket chips? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I thought you liked them, you liked them. They weren't bad. I had a hard time. They were bad. I had a hard time, because I just... Crickets are probably crunchy, and chips are crunchy. So the association was just too much for me. Well, okay, here I'm gonna put...

Like chirps as you get... Yeah, I think I can do cricket patties before I can do cricket chips. So here's the problem that I come up with. If you eat food, let's say you open a bag of chips and like, oh, shit, there's an insect in there. Gross. Like you can't do that. It's like if it's just adds to the mix. Like you look in there, there's a couple of legs or whatever. Loaded with protein. Yeah, you're like, oh yeah, it's supposed to be in there.

Because it's much more true. You can do longer, return it, you're like, oh yeah, it's supposed to be in there. Because it's a tuned thing. You can do longer, return it, you don't say. Yeah, hey, this has bugs in it. This is does, sir. It's such a cultural thing, right? Like, we're only like repulsed by it because of convenience. You know, like other places, like grubs and no problem.

Yeah, they, well, I mean, humans have eaten, were opportunists, right? Yeah, as I said, you would if you were star problem. Yeah, they will. Well, I mean, humans are eating, we're opportunists, right? Yeah, as I said, you would if you were starved. Oh, yeah, exactly. I mean, I do almost anything, right? We're not, so. But what would be prized the most? I like steak.

That's good though. What would be prized the most in the wilderness? Elk or deer or fish? Sure. No, not elk or deer. Those are both leaner meats. You'd want a fattier meat. Oh no, you eat, you can eat. I'm talking, yes, if you just carve off the, you say meat

in general. All of it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, meat would be, but my point is like, you would want a fattier animal would be the most ideal animal. So there's parts of, there's parts of the elk in the deer that are fattie and that you, that you would eat, right? Yeah. But there's some animals you write like rabbit. They're very lean. Yeah, I know there's a thing called that in the rabbit starvation. Yeah, we're trappers with starve because the rabbit was too lean. So they were just getting protein, not getting the fat.

Yeah. And they would essentially starve even though they had tons of calories, they'd get the all the rabbit they want. And it just wouldn't work out. I mean, that's probably, that's in survival mode, fat is even more prioritized than you'd say protein, wouldn't work out. I mean, that's probably, that's what, in survival mode, fat is even more prioritized than you'd say protein, wouldn't you say? Yeah, well, they're both essentials. For us, it's probably,

The harvest blubber, right? And you, and you, and they put the meat that, that fat on all kinds of different meats, like they, they layered it on top of it. Yeah, I think fat would be, Can you make the case too? When you talk about a whole animal that, like, and, and actually realistic to, to live off, it would probably be fish. As far as the balance of fat and protein, that's all there.

It depends. If you catch into so much tilapia, you know what I mean? Hell lean. I mean, that's leaner fish. It's still got fat in it. Does it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Enough. That's a good question actually. I don't know. I don't know if it would be, I don't think it says lean as rabbit is. That's a good question. I don't know. Like, what if you could live off a tilapia? I know that. question actually, I don't know, I don't know if it would be, I don't think it's as lean as rabbit is. That's a good question. I don't know, like, if you could live off a top. I know that.

Which is a bottom feeder. Fishing would be smart. It's easier to catch fish than it is to kill a bear or an elk or a moose. But you'd have to be near water, right? So obviously that matters. But you know, remember, this is coming from the same people, wasn't that long ago that this was literally hammered into us.

Margarine is healthier than butter. Don't eat egg yolks, it's terrible for you, it's gonna kill you. If you drink milk, if you have to, drink fat-free milk. Now here's the funny part, it's not just that they were wrong. It said it was literally the opposite. Yeah. It wasn't just wrong, it was the opposite.

Not only is margarine not healthier than butter, but butter's far healthier than margarine, right? Not only are egg yolks not gonna kill you, but eating a whole egg increases protein synthesis, it's got coolein, it's got beneficial cholesterol, it's actually far healthier for you. Milk, skim milk can result in nutrient deficiencies because it doesn't have the fat to allow

for the fat soluble vitamins and nutrients to get absorbed. Skin milk can actually cause, it's been connected to osteoporosis. Because it's just sugar and protein. Could live just eating kale. Oh, chicken water. As however long.

A predictable, like how many... How long do you live off a kale? Yeah, like how long would you give them? How long would you live with no food? Have you ever really got into it? I've watched multiple seasons of alone. Have you, I'm like, how long would you give them? However long you could live with no food. Have you ever really got into that? I've watched multiple seasons of alone. Have you like got into it like that? Yeah, I mean, I've just watched one season before,

but I've never seen anybody do like just like, oh yeah, they're kale. It's all well, they haven't just done kale, but like berries and bushes and shit like that. Like those people are gone quick. Yeah, no, seriously. The vegans are fucked up. The people that do not find meat are fucked.

If you do not find fish or you do not kill an animal, you're the first to go. You're not. You're quick. Yeah, real quick, they lose weight so fast, and then they're the always the ones that left. I mean, that's how you, and you, my buddies and I are like hardcore.

My other two buddies are way hardcore into the show, and I've watched, but handful of seasons, and we love to watch the first episode of the predict. Like, you know, who's got the skills? And everybody always bets on the guy or the girl who's got the best hunting skills. Like if you can't go hunt an animal and get it, like those, and the ones that are like,

oh no, I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna go get some berry and they start off like that. You're like collecting everything. Yeah, good luck. I've. You're collecting everything. Yeah, that's a good luck. I've been working all day collecting berries and leaves and I collected a grand total of 150 calories. This is gonna be great.

I burned 400 calories collecting a hundred of it. I'd be better. I bet on the guy that grabs the spider right off the web and just eats it. Yeah, that guy is gonna make it. You'd be better off. You'd literally be better off when it comes to the berries and plants. You'd be better off just sitting there literally be better off when it comes to the berries and plants.

You'd be better off just sitting there not burning calories. You're right. I swear to God. I see some strategies that people have done. That's what make it in a frame was a show. I watch it's like similar to that. Yeah. Yeah, the guy that just literally just chills out, you know, every day and just eats just

enough and then doesn't just wait. Just wait it out. Everybody hates them though. You know, like everybody that's like,'s like, it's a little community they create and they're all trying to help each other out and then one guy's just barely even doing anything and they wanna vote them off and all this and he lasts the longest.

I mean, the show, what's enlightening about the show is just like how fast I would die. I just recognize that really. Oh, I mean, you have to build a shelter too So it's like you can't like in alone. You know, I have zero put you in a place where it's like you need shelter I have zero. Yeah, I have zero survival skills. Yeah, zero. I would be I think I watch it. Yes, you do you could talk I got talk. Yeah, yeah You know You would convince somebody else about you need to give your food

Which may be the most powerful skill. Yeah, my strategy is I'm gonna convince them to make me their leader You go good. Yeah, hey, let me just manage everything guys. I'd be dead man I watch that I'm like water. I don't know how to make shelter. Don't know how to catch fish without a fishing line And I know how to tell people what to do They want to listen to that. They want to listen to a podcast. I'll crush. Anyway, it's fire site storage all day. It's totally crazy. I hate that shit.

Anyway, speaking of food and stuff, man, I tell you, I've used so many different products for gut health. You guys know, people who listen to show know, that gut health is, this is my weakness, or should I say, this is where, if my health goes poor, my gut health shows up first. And lately, it's been really good, it's been really good for a long time.

And there's a few different reasons why, but I have to totally be honest. I think seed is making the biggest difference. I've never used a probiotic that I can tell massive difference. You're not the first person to tell me that either. I have some family that my cousin Stephanie, who swears by it too. She's had gut issues forever and she's tried all the different probiotics. When she got introduced to seed, she was like, that is, it's been life changing.

If I go without it, we check it out. I can't tell a difference. Just being straight up, like I haven't, but I also haven't been consistent enough with it. I've, I use my probiotic, like if I know that I'm gonna go do something that I know is gonna, I don't, you're consistent, right?

I, bro, it's, there's, I've never had anything that works so well. Like, literally if I take it, I'm fine. If I don't, and I wait four or five days, then I notice that my gut starts to go off a little bit. I've never taken a probiotic like that in my entire, I've tried probiotics a million and one different times. Some are better than others for me. Some actually make my gut health worse.

Sometimes there's certain brands I'll take that I'll actually mess me up. What do you think that is? I think it's the, okay, so. It's time release of it, right? Yeah, it's so. I think it's the way so time release of it right yeah, so yeah, I think it's it's the way that they make the capsules Because they have this machine where they were seed is developed

Where that simulates the digestive tract and it makes sure that it releases the probiotic in the colon Which is where you want this particular bacteria strings ago other probiotics don't really have a great delivery method So that's why I actually like poop it out at the end. Yeah, that's great. Just want to see it. So I want to see the whole thing. Hey, where are you the kid? Remember in the A&P? I'm wearing a P.P. shirt. Yeah, you guys. Yeah, I see. Don't expect a lot. He is this kid.

Yeah. Wow. For sure. A lot of my kid. He's never. Yeah, I could never do that. What'd you do with song to this? Really?

You can't do an armpit fart? I mean, I can't play music good. I thought for sure you good. Hey, do you guys remember in the 80s, there was a whole trend of dolls at Poop? Remember that? It was like for a whole period there, there were like, that was a thing.

That was a thing, yeah. I don't remember. Brown ball. Oh yeah, bro. In the 80s, it was like the thing like, oh, this doll, if you feed it, it also Po the thing like oh this doll if you feed it It also poops baby alive or baby whatever yeah, it pooped I know cuz my sister wanted every single one for some reason she wanted to change diapers She was like eight years old. I'm like well baby alive. Yeah, they're doing there like yeah show a picture of that duck

Try to make as realistic as possible That's good. I don't remember. Yeah, so you feed it the food that came with it and then it would just let it would just come out the butthole Yeah, it would poop. Yeah, see there it is. That's good, I don't remember. Yeah, so you'd feed it, the food that came with it, and then it would just come out the butthole. And it would poop. Yeah, see, there it is. That's exactly what the one my sister had right there. Well, I was gonna transition us into food and our other commercial, but now you're talking about poop that ranks it really big, because he's,

it's not a food. I mean, we're talking about your good mood. I was gonna give you like a nice transition into the next commercial, but then I'm like, oh my God, give this, I don't have to wait. Yeah, it's good, I have to wait. I was gonna switch it like a nice transition to the next commercial, but then I'm like, oh my god, give this way. Yeah, it's good. I have to wait.

Switch it up. Circle back. Yeah, it's just something else. My man, I took a brown room. I have this recipe that I wish I would give the credit to the person who I saw the post. I don't remember who posted it, but it was good enough that I snapshot it and sent to Katrina.

And then Katrina, I sent it to her like a week or two ago and then she finally just made it the other night. And it's really good. So we take a cookie sheet and then wax paper on it and then you take Greek yogurt and a little bit of almond milk in there and then you spread it over the cookie sheet and then you sprinkle like we did strawberry

slices, a little bit of granola, a little bit of chocolate chips. Oh and in the Greek yogurt we whip up, you know, protein powder. So we whipped up organa 5 vanilla. So you take Greek yogurt and just with a spoon. Yeah. Yeah, just whip, just whip, just stir in the protein powder. So you get it mixed in really well. Okay. A little bit of all milk. So it thins it out a tiny bit. Oh wow. And then you pour it over the wax paper on the cookie sheet, and then you put, and you could do other stuff.

I just, we chose strawberries, a little bit of granola, and a little bit of chocolate chips, into this, and then you put it in the freezer, and then it hardens, and then you like to get knife, and you break it into like these,

almost like peanut bread-o-looking chunks, really, that are high protein snacks that are cold. Is it good? Bomb. Really? Hell good.. Is it good? Bomb. Really? Hell good. Wow.

So good. Yeah. Wow. I've never seen anybody do that before and I saw that and I was like, and I've done like a Greek yogurt. I think I've had a long time ago. I've talked to you guys about where we used to strain it over cheesecloth and then you take all the liquid out

and then we turn it into like a whipped cream where you whip it and then you put like, Sevilla or whatever in it. Mm- in it and then you dip strawberries in it and now you got like a high protein whip that you can dip in that's pretty good. I've done that for a long time. So it kind of reminded me of something like that. I know how much I liked that. Now is it good enough to where if you gave it to somebody and they didn't know those protein

powder in it that they'd be like, oh this is good. Oh you don't take part in it. So you can take a deal of party and serve it and everybody was like, wow. is good. You don't take protein powder in it. So you could take a deal of partying and serve it and everybody was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a high protein snack. Because you have a Greek yogurt, which is already a high protein. Who would be a good dairy ad?

Alternative to that, Doug. A dairy alternative? Yeah, because I can't do Greek yogurt. Oh, yeah. Is there anything that would be, they make a coconut milk yogurt. Have you seen those? Yeah, they do make nut yogurts,

but I don't know how thick they are. The thing about Greek yogurt is very thick. Yeah, right? Yeah, they do make nut yogurts, but I don't know how thick they are. The thing about Greek yogurts, very thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although you thin it out a little bit with the almond milk, but you don't thin it out a lot. It's not runny at all. It's just enough to kind of spread it over the wax paper. So it's just like a splatial.

So okay, how many servings would you say? I mean, I could crush the whole, well, no, I wouldn't say the whole thing. I ate like a quarter of it. How many soups of protein are in that? Just one. So 20 grams. You could put, well, 20 grams plus a Greek yogurt.

Yeah. So it's probably 40 grams of protein. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that whole thing, wow, that's pretty damn good. Yeah, and if you ate the whole thing, it's not gonna be that high a calorie. You could, you could eat the whole thing, but it's designed to break it up

and everybody kind of pick out it or not. But you gotta keep it frozen, right? Yeah, cause it will melt back down. So you wanna eat it like fresh, you wanna freeze it as soon as you keep it frozen, right? Yeah, cause it will melt back down. So you wanna eat it fresh, you wanna freeze it, as soon as you pull it out, you basically wanna eat it. You wouldn't leave it on the counter cause then it will melt back down. So that's probably the only drawback that I noticed

about it was like, you know, cause I did that, I actually pulled it out of the freezer, broke it up and then I told, go down and have some, it was like two hours later. It was like all soft again. It'll get like, it won't get. Katrina, yeah it up, and then I told him, oh, go down and have some, it was like two hours later. It was like all soft to get. It'll get like, it will get. Katrina, yeah, hey, don't know, I had that on. It'll get, it'll get soft.

And then we just, but it didn't run anywhere. I just put it right back in the freezer and then it froze back up again. So, yeah, you know what, I've been using, by the way, how long we've been with our gain of find out? They're our longest sponsor for sure, right? They were, they were one of the first people that we did a deal with over five years.

Has it been over five years? Yeah, I think this were coming up on five. Maybe five, yeah. Yeah, the product that I get, most people say that they use from them is the protein or the green juice. Green juice still is at the top. People still, whenever I do a post or whatever, and ask, you know what I mean?

Well, I think most people relate, I mean, at least people that I know don't, if you eat out or even if you prep your meals, prepping vegetables ahead of time sucks. So when I normally prep, I do like to meet the carb. And then I try and make fresh vegetables with it, but the reality is a lot of times I don't. Do you guys like the crisp apple? Yeah. That's really good. No, it's warm. Yeah, they killed vegetables with it, but the reality is a lot of times I don't. Do you guys like the Chris Bapple? Yeah. That's really good.

Oh yeah, they killed it with it. They improved the form of it. Oh, so much. Yeah, totally. It's good stuff. Dude, I found a show, a series on Netflix that you guys need to check out. It's kind of, it comes across a little cheesy,

but it's actually really good, really good content. So, don't make that face out. It's skeptical. You'll like it make that face out. It's skeptical. You'll like it. Adam over here. It's called unexplained. Oh, we've all watched that. We've all watched that.

We've all watched that. What do you all watch that? What do you do here or what? Yeah, bro, it's like, it's been around forever. 2021. He gets into MDMA in there. They get to tell him about William Shatner. Yeah.

I love that. You know why? Because it's similar to ancient aliens. It's like, it gets, it gets into the... Bro! We've brought it up a long time. It's theory. Yes, but yeah.

No, I think, yeah. There's two. There's another one. It sounds like an old one. There's a lot of unexplained show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, it's called, it's actually called unexplained. It's the one with the other one.

They get into MDMA. There's the one with William Shatner. Yeah, this is, this is different. Star Trek, right? Yeah, got it. I know what you're talking about. And did you guys watch the episode on the mysteries of the brain? I think I did.

Is it one of the first two episodes? I watched the first three episodes of that. Okay, no, I think it was like the fifth or sixth one. I scrolled through and clicked up. Okay, this is so damn weird to me. So have you guys know what a savant is, right? It's like a genius. Somebody's a genius in a particular field.

Well, there's something called, I believe it's called sudden, Savant syndrome, I think is the name of it. Anyway, there's this guy on there. And when he was like a teenager, he was playing with his buddies in the pool, they're wrestling, whatever. And he decided he was gonna jump into the pool head first

kind of show off. Anyway, hits his head, it was a shallow end of the pool, hits his head at the bottom, and really hurts himself. Goes to the hospital, they do a bunch of imaging, thankfully no bleeding, but there was some brain damage, there was some damage. So he's at his mom's house and kind of resting it off for a week or whatever, and you know, he started to get better and then it seemed like he made this kind of full recovery.

Anyway, he goes to his friend's house, it's true story. Goes to his friend's house and his friend had a keyboard laying out, and he looks at the keyboard and he felt compelled to walk over it looks at it and then starts fucking playing the piano Yeah, like a like a like a virtuoso like an expert and never played before never played a piano before never took a lesson before Just was it about this. Yeah, this is I mean this while back there was other cases where People with the obviously they knew this this entire their language. Yeah. And you're like, and like, how does that even happen is like, if they're exposed to it and they're just,

you're just like subconsciously, yeah, that's weird to me, like a language or learn, like, because that's kind of the same thing, learning, having a language, all of a sudden you can speak or playing the piano. That's wild. Like, if there was something that you were around all the time and you were taking it in, you're not gonna get a hit and then you get hit your head and then maybe that pathway makes a connection and then all of a sudden you got, no I don't recommend anybody go home and hit themselves in the head. I know, but that's really crazy.

They also too, like Roseanne Barr I guess, like she got an accident when she was a girl, like a car hit her I believe in, like a brain damage. And then, like, this is one of those things, like the high risk factor goes way up and so she became way, like a totally different personality. Weird. And so she attributes a lot of, like, well, no, I mean, it's crazy because this guy, it's what he does for a living now,

as he plays the piano in front of large audiences and symphonies, and he, all of a sudden, became this like genius, literal genius, with the piano. And then yeah, they talked about someone who hit their head and then was able to speak other languages. And there's two theories, one of them's really weird. One of them is that we have all, we all contain this like,

this latent or hidden abilities. Like we can do anything, like embedded in our DNA. It just gets unlocked. The other one is that like I've never taken piano lessons. But I've heard music. I've been around pianos a couple times. Some of that gets stored subconsciously and maybe through brain damage or whatever,

I'm able to then start playing it and immediately learn it just by listening to the keys or whatever. Same thing with language, like I start saying words starts making sense, maybe I've heard it a couple times. So what do you think it is? Do you think it is a like a pass down DNA thing from like maybe, maybe like seven generations ago,

he had somebody in his family that was hella good at it. And through generation to generation, so that was in his DNA code, but it was never unwacked until the accident. I think it's what I said. I think, I think, you know, if you've ever read about like child geniuses with like instruments,

they don't know it, they'll pick it up, but they'll learn it so quickly. They'll start hitting the strings and it just makes sense to them, right? So I think that's what it is. Well, how is that different than what I'm saying right now? Like, why can they do that though? I think that when it comes to certain things

like math and music that you, if you're a genius, you can see it. You can see it and pick up on it and move into it. That's what I think. I don't know. I wonder the specific skills like that, though, if you'd like trace back in the origins of your genealogy or whatever, if there was like some virtuoso in there.

Cause, yeah, I mean, to me, it just seems not very plausible that it would be a specific thing like that. Right. It's weird. It would not, without it being in the DNA code from somebody else passed down the jury. I mean, we see small glimpses of this like with athletes, right? Yeah. I always find it super fascinating when you've got like a family like the Mannings, or you have these LeBron James and his son, look at it the way he's playing. It's just like, yeah. Of course, he grew up around basketball, but a lot of times these athletes are,

and we've talked about how the super professional athlete is like on a whole different level. Yeah, that's a genius. Yeah, because I mean, I could practice basketball every day of my life and work as hard as I possibly can and I'll never reach LeBron James status. It's just not in my code. But then you have a kid or the kid generations of these athletes. I think it's just, it's hard for us to comprehend.

But if you've ever watched documentaries on like math geniuses, you know, savants when it comes to mathematics, they just see it. They just see it. They don't have to learn it. They don't have to teach them formulas as much as they see it work out. And I think that's kind of what it is. Well, it is the same thing with athletics. That's mathematics.

It's math. When you're throwing a ball, you're shooting a wall, you're crossing it over. It's all timing and not just subconscious math. And I bet you that's how they even see the key. I don't think they see the keys and math numbers are coming up. No, no, no, I just think it makes sense.

Yes, how visually they try to explain what's happening, you know, all these like TV shows and movies, but yeah, it's, it's just like some kind of sense of knowing it already. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It was, so what they, they've done studies on it. And in that show, they said that there's a commonality between these people where it was, there's a part of the left side, the left side of the brain, the left hemisphere of the brain that's damaged in these subaunts. And they think what it does is it, because it's damaged, it turns off, the brain compensates, right?

It's very plastic, so other parts of the brain take over. But now that part of the brain, which is kind of a governing, logical linear thinking part of the brain, turns off, and now the creative part is just, plrr, explode. Doesn't that also make you think that we limit ourselves so much? Of course. Of course. Of course. Right?

Like there's so many barriers. Even just even when we're training, right? All these governings that are in place to keep you from hurting yourself. I think that we're limited for our own safety and survival. And because that was another question they brought up on that is, okay, can we mimic this in the lab? And what's the trade-off?

Is there going to be a trade-off? Like when you see people who are, okay, I just read an article about Elon Musk, let's talk about him for a second, right? He's got apparently two other kids from some executive he worked with, so he's got like nine kids from, I don't know, five different women or whatever.

Elon Musk, one of almost brilliant men of all time, incredible innovator, massively productive, shitty dad. Obviously, not a very good dad. So I feel like there's a trade-off. He's killing it everywhere. Yeah, that's a very good dad. I feel like there's a tradeoff. I'm killing everywhere. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I feel like there's a tradeoff, right? Like, you don't, you do really want to be a good guy.

I've been saying that forever, right? It's for sure that way. And at least in my experience, every time I meet somebody that is just extraordinary at something, you know, they always, they're out of whack. And so many of their aspects of their life, it just takes that. I feel like in order to be so great that people talk about you

or you're remembered long after you have had to become so hyper focused on this one skill. You're imbalanced. You're imbalanced. And those other things fall. And that doesn't mean you can't also be a pretty good dad and then be brilliant. It's just that most people tend to suck out a lot

of the other things because they're so good at that. Yeah. I'm always impressed. Like if you go back in history and you think about like the craziest minds of all time, like Leonardo da Vinci, because it's so incredibly artistic. Everything. Everything. Like he invaded, he invented things like just his knowledge was beyond his like, yeah. Newton was like that too. He was just his knowledge was new. He was like that too. He was smart with everything that he did. You only get a few of those like every century or really weird.

And then they were talking about infants brains. This is where it was really crazy. So obviously an infants brain is much smaller than an adult brain. So it's real small in comparison. It has twice as many neurons in neural neural collections as an adult. So they were saying that the infant brain, if you look at it like hardware, is the most intelligent brain that

exists. Because it's all working. It's all malleable. Super malleable. And so they were just primed to learn. Yes. And they were talking about language. This where it was get really trippy. So obviously if you teach a kid four different languages, they'll learn all four with no accent and they'll learn it beautifully. The pronunciations are once you reach a certain age, you can learn other languages. They'll learn all four with no accent and they'll learn it beautifully, the pronunciations are, once you reach a certain age, you can learn other languages,

but then everybody can tell that's not your native language, you obviously have an accent, because that brain loses their ability. You build patterns that establish. Yeah, so they were saying that, and I hope I'm think I got the numbers right, but if you look at all the major world languages, it's about 3,500 distinct mouth noises and sounds

with all these languages combined. The average person only uses something like 47. So if you speak English, or you only speak Spanish, or you're only using about 47 sounds, but there's 3,500 that are out there. Infants, and I don't know how the hell they tested this, but infants can differentiate between every single sound, different sound,

whereas adults can't, which is why we end up with accents and we mess up and we can't learn language. So, so wild to me, you're talking about that is like how naive we can be as parents sometimes did not think that that infant is picking up on so much shit going on in your mind. And your mind-language is everything else is going on with it. Everything. Yep. You're all about your energy levels, the words you're speaking, the TV that's being

played inside there, the TV that's being played inside there, the conversations that are happening in front of them. So my wife is, she really is gifted when it comes to babies and children. She really is. And one thing that she did that was so brilliant, it was, and this was an obviously

she didn't invent this, other parents have done this, but she was really adamant about this, as she taught a really assigned language when he was really young. And it's because babies, they don't have the motor mechanics yet to pronounce words and stuff, but they can use hand signals to communicate. Because of that,

a really has been able to communicate with us way before he could say words, and I think it's really made a difference with his ability to understand and communicate. So at a really young age, before he could even say words, we could talk to him and understand he could communicate with us.

And I think it's because we took advantage of that part, that crucial time, right? Well, something that we made a mistake on talking about that was actually feeding max for so long. So part of why they don't have the motor skills. So part of what will speed up and accelerate a kid learning how to speak is actually them their ability to feed themselves. Yes. So allowing them early on to feed themselves and I learned that literally last year. So I had no idea.

Yeah, and so part of Max's speech delay is the motor skills and part of that is been because of us because we fed him for so long. Also chewing on food, like biting meat off the bones, sucking on thing, and he didn't do none of that. He didn't do like, she was so worried about him choking and stuff like that that she cut his food for so long. We spoon and fork fed him like not to not that long ago, and here he is almost three where a lot of time, and you know, granted, you know,

I let her decide as she wanted to do that or not to that because I said, listen, you start that now, you can be 18 years old, you're cutting a stick, a stick it should I'm gonna remind you that that was up You do reminds you that picture was sound No, but it really it delays their speech. Yeah, so if you do if and it's important that they, and I, so I know that that attributed to his delayed speech is because he had the cognitive ability to put everything under studies a smart kid, but he's still learning that because he just now really started feeding him. So wild, right? Yeah, I know a lot of stuff we used to think like my, I got, I,

still I get into debates with my older family members because we like to keep our son barefoot. Like, no, puts diff shoes on him. He'll walk better. Like no. Yeah, yeah. He needs to develop his foot muscles and stuff. I'm not gonna put these in there. Hard ass, sold frickin' shoes on it.

You made me wear. So I got messed up as feet now. Oh yeah, the adults. It's totally different. So we can have shows that are awesome in there out right now. Like I didn't even realize Westworld was out. So like the next season just came out. They dropped like two episodes.

They just look like two episodes. Uh, four, yeah. Yeah. So like the next season just came out. They dropped like two episodes. Four, yeah. So the last one was a little iffy, but like so I was like, I mean, I wanted to give it a chance. I love the first two seasons. And so they're coming in. I'm like, how many other angles can you go with like AI and like integrating that with actual humans

and like how they're gonna blend all this stuff and what's the new thing that's gonna be kind of the threat or that's gonna create this kind of suspense. And so I thought it was pretty interesting that the angle they're going with so far. And so it's more like, so you know how we've seen in the news how they're kind of engineering these like nano

insects and you know, and they're kind of going into like these little micro robots and all that kind of stuff. So you kind of see elements of that with with flies and then also how They're they're basically using them as like kind of like parasitic flies that are now basically they're basically using them as like kind of like parasitic flies that are now basically making these these humans that are left crazy in murderous. And so they're sort of like programming them to do their bidding. So this is the AI robots that are walking around amongst the humans are like now sort of controlling them through that.

We would so get our ass kicked by AI. Yeah, it's creepy, dude. It's like, I was like, oh, because I was already between like all these like drones and things that they've been shrinking down so much. Like it's very plausible that, you know, like little micro robots are going to be a threat. Well, speaking of AI stuff, AI stuff, I read this article that I thought was really interesting. We've been talking about the autonomous car

being one of the biggest races amongst all these big companies. And what this article was making the case for was that what is going to disrupt the space even more that's happening right now and what happened faster is Apple CarPlay. Why? Okay, first of all, it's in like 90 something percent of all cars now.

Yeah, I know what it is. But and what is rolling out by the third or fourth quarter of this year is the ability for you to be driving and pay for gas by a push of a button on your Apple CarPlay and then pull up and just fill your gas in. Oh wow. So if you're in Apple Pay and all that with that. Yeah, so Apple is already doing.

It's gonna communicate Bluetooth or whatever. Yeah, and just think of all, now think of all the capabilities shopping wise and things like that. And then also again, tracking where your habits and behaviors and what you buy on what day, like. A coupon pops up for a place you see drive through windows, like you're kind of like just going by stores

and it's like then you just, just it starts to get your wheels spinning on all the pot and that's what they're saying is like, that is so innovative and that is going to disrupt like the space sooner and more than even like the autonomous cars are going to. People's really good at innovating. Yeah. When are they going to come out with like a way for me to message cars driving next

to me on the freeway? I want to be able to. It'll be Apple CarPlay. I want to be able to like pull up next to it. Like I see a car like that. I'm going to just hit him a message. We're going to have to be a new problem that they're going to try to let you. Yeah. Would you like to receive a message from the blue car? Did you pull up the stats on I'm accurate with that Doug? What is the percentage of cars that have the new cars

that have Apple CarPlay in it? I believe I read 90 something percent of all cars have Apple CarPlay. Well, I mean, you're whatever the, you know, on your dashboard that controls your radio and everything, like it's all gonna be like Apple and stuff. The car manufacturers, they're whatever they use stuff. Think about what a brilliant move by Apple again right here

to just like they do with podcasting to provide it for free to control the waves, right? They create the platform. They, I bet you, okay, what was popular before Apple car playing cars? Serious and X, and they probably work contract deals out, right? Where it's like, oh, we'll put it in there

and then we get a percentage of this and so it was like a money deal. Right, but Apple said here's some killer technology. Most people have iPhones, we, we'll put it in there and then we get a percentage of this and so it was like a money deal. Right, but Apple said, here's some killer technology. Most people have iPhones, we're gonna give it to all these cards. I bet you they don't even charge for that. I bet you that there's no, I bet there's no, but now Apple has control of 90% of cars and what communicates to all their devices.

Yes. So in-house, yeah, they don't outsource any of it. Like talk about a backdoor way of getting in there and now having all this control What is it Doug? 98% 98% of all new vehicles have apple cards. Well, those two percent. That's wrong. Those I don't know It's like that one day. I mean, I imagine they're just trying to find Dennis The asshole is like I just do this two-paste But a jerk. Yeah

Fascinating though, right? That's interesting. I know, I think that's really interesting and it's gonna be, and we're gonna see the first example of that. Well, now I think it'll take some time before like every, because the gas stations have to be aligned and they'll have to have the technology to be able to receive on the other side,

but it's just the beginning of that and imagine what you're gonna be able to do on there. How concealing the gas stations. You know what I learned the other day? So our current president put out probably one of the dumbest tweets of all time, not that president's ever put out good tweets, we know, happened with the last one,

but this guy puts out about gas prices and says, and you know, you greedy gas stations, don't raise your price or what, and that completely ignoring the rules of economics and not knowing anything. and I did not know this Do you know gas stations often don't make any money? All the gas very little some of them will actually it's like any money. That's why it's so that's why it's so why everyone Makes like this same price. It's so competitive. Yeah, and that's why it's always within pennies

Yes, and where they make their money is the concessions. Just like the movies. Like you show up and you buy the Pepsi, you buy the snacks, that's where they make their money. The gas is like, you need gas. Some gas. It's their guaranteed traffic. Yes, and that's where they stay so competitive

because if you're up five more cents, someone goes right up to the gas. Yes, and so I didn't know that some gas stations will even lose money on gas. On purpose. So they could sell. So I mean, I think Costco is an example of that. Like Costco gas everybody knows it's cheap. And then hopefully I think with Costco strategies,

oh, you're already gotta go to Costco anyways. So you get your gas and then we're gonna get you inside the store going in there. So you're a convenience store, you're like a mechanic adjacent to that too, right? Or both, right? You see a lot of like the chevrons and stuff do that, right? So I'm speaking of flies.

Yeah. I mean, the mechanical hurt me talking about it. The government sent a flammage, exactly. Uh, those bastards. I had another, I had a really other interesting story that any, I should have tied it in with your, um, you guys talk about Savon's, right? Because it's a Picasso story that had to do with Robin Williams. So do you remember

when Robin Williams did Aladdin when he did the genius? Oh, the genius. Yeah. So dude, he was way better. Will Smith come on. Oh, I mean, he was incredible. Oh, I mean, that's so that a lot. Check that out. Look up Aladdin's like what record, it broke all kinds of records. The sales of that, which is what brings me to this point. Do you know, do you know about about the story on what he got paid for that and how that all worked out? So he made a sweetheart deal with Disney to do the Genie and his thought was just like,

I had something to do with his kids and like, you know, it's fun. Yeah, it's fun. And so he did like, and they only wanted to pay him like $75,000 or something like that and he was already pretty famous back then. So it was going right, would be a lot higher. So he made a deal of doing it for 70,000.

Well then the thing goes fucking gang buster. It was a $1 billion dollar, yes. It made back then. Okay, $1 billion back then? Oh my God. Yeah, so it broke all kinds of crazy, crazy records back then. And he got paid 75 grand. So he, him and his agent tried to sue Disney,

and Disney was like, yo, this is an agreement we have. Yeah, it was the agreement, some of that. So there was all the, and they made a big stink and went back and forth, but then what Disney did was sent him a million dollar Picasso painting. And I don't know what that Picasso painting is worth right now, but I thought that was a really interesting story

that I never knew about. What did they get? It was like in their vault or whatever. I guess we'll give them the Picasso. That nobody knows. Disney's collecting art too. Or maybe they just bought it, right? Right. Maybe that was like, and maybe what it was was like, okay, he's worth some, and maybe they were

willing, and I don't know what that, if it was a million dollars then, or if it's a million dollars now, like I don't know that if it was, maybe they bought it back. How do you sue a company after you already signed a contract and agreed? It's so weird. I feel like the biggest idiot, you know what I mean? Well, we made a deal my shoe on you. Yeah, it's like you agreed to this and that's where it's at Like there was it there wasn't refuted. I remember reading about it might have been Google might have been Facebook I mean you get come on these the logo guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a guy went up painted the yeah They wanted a graffiti artist to write their logo

somewhere and they offered him 10 grand, or shares in the company which were worth nothing at the time. Yeah. He was smart enough to take the shares. Take the shares, yeah. And it up, you know, being a multi-multi-millionaire, as a result of it, which is very smart. And artists not turning down 10 grand cash.

Yeah. Like who would do that, right? Right, right. So. I mean, it's tough, because I think what probably ended up happening too. And I'm sure, you know, this stuff, these guys, all these artists and all these actors and athletes, they have massive egos. And then I'm sure it comes out. And what I don't remember, like vividly, like what it was, but I'm pretty sure that he got a lot of credit for the

how great Aladdin was. Like that, he made that, like the, the, all about him. As a genius was the, was comedy, was epic, what everybody was talking about afterwards. So, you know, imagine you're one of the lower, probably lowest paid people on the, on the, the, on the, the, the, the, the, the deal, bro. No, I know, I get it. I mean, I don't disagree. Yeah, I was wrong. It was the wrong one.

That was for the new movie. It actually did better than the original. Oh. Yeah, it went over a billion dollars. Oh. In 1992, when the original came out, it grossed $504 million. Which is why it's basically adjusted for the first one.

Adjust the inflation. That's like $25 trillion. Yeah. Yeah. Did you find the precautionary? It was truly, it gave him whatever it was for. I did not. I'll be honest.

It would be interesting to see what it was worth it and what it's worth now. I had this meme, there was this meme I shared a long time ago where it said, they call 50s in Zimbabwe, they call 50 cent 50 trillion because you know, Zimbabwe had to do that. Oh man. Back then, I'm like, oh man, are we gonna be like that soon? I know. Hey, speaking of music gets changed or two. Guess what I'm watching tonight.

Who are you watching? Thor. Oh yeah, who are you watching it with? My kids. My kids in the wife, yeah. You know, the older apartments back in this one, huh? I, you know, I, dude, I used to have a huge crush on her. You know, she's super smart.

In real life, she's highly intelligent in real life. Well, she went to what, it was a Yale or Harvard, right? Something like that. Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yeah, like she's super, super smart apparently in real life. But anyway, I'm excited to watch it. Looks good. What's his name? Who plays Thor? What's his name? Chris Helmsworth. Yeah. Did he look like he looks like a game like another 15 pounds of muscle. He looks way bigger than he did in the previous Thor's. Yeah. Yeah. He is. I saw I want to admit he's following Maps and a Bull. I don't know. He's trying to what he's using.

He's leveraging it to sell that center. I know, center app. I know. What's his more plates more dates guy have broken all down when they first were talking about launching it. He was talking about how, you know, he put on a bunch more muscle. Like he's like, he's getting to the point now. He's starting to look like an 80s action here.

Remember in the 80s in early 90s. Finally, actually, here were just jangling. I miss that that whole genre. Does he openly talk about his, his, anapolx at all? Does he open his talk? No, he doubted. No, not in these actors, dude. And it's just like, it's so obvious.

Is it not? I mean, there's gotta be some that are open about it now, right? No, we're still at that place where we still are in denial. Well, that's an interesting thought. I wonder who it actually comes out and be honest about it. They don't even like to come out and be honest about it. They don't even like to admit to plastic surgery. Yeah. They might, they also though might have it in their contract

that they can't. That's probably what it is. I'm sure that the, I'm sure that the movie place does not want the bad. What are the producers like here? I gotta get that for you. I'm not gonna say who or what, but I know people in that industry who they service

when it comes to hormones, testosterone, antibiotics like Landry-Lone, Growth Hormone, they service studios like, oh, we do all the Marvel superheroes. Or yeah, we did this franchise. Of course they have a great team. Of course they have a great team. What they do is they sign up and they get the trainer,

they get the nutritionist and they get their hormones. We're not talking just a couple million. These are multi-million investment. I want to make it clear. I want to make it clear I would 100% do that too. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm not making fun of them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's a,

they're supposed to look like a superhero. I mean, it's like a pro athletes, when people freak out when pro athletes do stuff like that. Well pro athletes, it's in their contract that they're supposed to not. So that's kind of whatever I could see the argument It's not their contract is not there. No, the NFL doesn't say you're not allowed to take their role Okay, that's not in their contract the NFL says you're not supposed to take some That's what I mean

The NBA's for it and making examples here, but all the long while knowing damn well They do and just brushing their right but when it comes to movies and stuff, there's nobody that says. Well, yeah, yeah, which makes it up. Yeah, there is no rules for it. Is there an even rules for that? Wow, look at this. That'd be interesting. This is what he says right here.

It was just red meat heavyweights and some protein powder. We can't small use in that left. I believe him. I believe him. No, he's way bigger now. That's 2010 though. That's 2010, but this article is from July 3rd. Look up a recent picture of Thor now.

Oh, no, I know. He's much better. He's jacked. He's gonna turn into the rock soon. Yeah, I mean, he looks way, and then isn't there a movie coming out of the rock? Adam, black Adam, I think it's called? Oh, I didn't see that.

I was speaking to the Thor, I don't know if this is true or not, I thought it was kind of funny, but Tyco Wikiki, I think that's the producer. He's the one that does all the funny shit. I don't know if he's funny. I swear to God, it sounds like he made that name up. What's in there?

It does, but no, he's from New Zealand. Give me, he's the one that puts all the like the comic relief and all the, all the. He writes these movies like and he's, he did the other Thor, the Ragnarok. Yeah. And that was like the best one I thought. But yeah, so he's done, and he also did like

what we do in the shadows, which is that show I love that's hilarious and that's coming back. I like him then. He's great. He's like one of my favorites. Yeah, the way that they're rejecting humor in these is excellent. It makes him so fun to watch. Yeah, so yeah, what's he gonna say? Oh, so he basically, like so Natalie Portman's working in this and I saw, I read something. I don't know if it's true or not but it's kind of funny that like he's also working with Star Wars so he was on set with Mandalorian he directed one of the the episodes and he's doing his own project now with Disney for Star Wars

and so Natalie Portman after was like what are we gonna do after this right and he's like well have you ever thought about doing a Star Wars? And like not realizing she was in like all the roles. Yeah, I was, like, as Queen of the Dead. Yeah. I don't know if that's true or not, but I'd be pretty funny. Like, you just didn't even watch those ones. She looks jacked in the new Thor too. Have you seen pictures of her?

Doug, look up Natalie Portman Thor or New Thor or whatever, the current one. I don't remember what the, her arms are all toned and, Nope, she looks jacked. Like, she actually looks, they A.I. that, I mean, A.I. but CGI that. She knows.

She actually, she's a, she doesn't look sculpted, she looks jacked. Right. She looks actually, yeah, I did watch. Let's see if that can pull up a picture. Yeah, but I think most of that is the angles make up. She's just, I mean, she is toned, but I don't, this is hard for me to believe.

I mean, there was some, I mean, okay, look at her arm. They did make her, look at her, she looks like she by this heart for me to be I mean there was some I mean, okay look at her arm They did make her look at a delts bro. She looks like she gained like 15 Poundfully body, though. Yeah, like it's not look at the one down there like her arm is not big. Yeah, but that's all angles Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm gonna throw some angle. Yeah, well and muscular and you know before they just go Yeah, compared to how she look before though. Well, you know, they get pumps before they do the shoot too I don't think so. Oh one hundred percent. You know, I want to compared to how she looked before though. Well, you know, they get pumps before they do the shoot too. I don't think so. Oh, 100%. You know, I want to take for hours.

Yeah, hours, you need to keep a pump for freaking hours. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Look at that. We told you. You knuckleheads really think a shoot goes for four hours straight without 15 minutes. I know, but they just take after take. Close up.

And you don't think there is a big of a set of bands in dumbbells sitting right over there to go grab maybe there is but five hours are dead Not doing a fucking workout routine. I'm doing a life no way credit where credits do she's pretty dude Look at her. Yeah, all right. You know what we're gonna do this. Yeah. No, I'm a say she's a look good I'm just making Justin's point that I think I'll make up and a pump is a little good. I'm just making Justin's point that I think polls make up and a pump makes a big difference. Dude, we've already learned this in the bodybuilding world.

You don't think they apply that to billion dollar movies? I don't think they're getting pumps throughout the season. Yes, they are. Oh, please Google this. I'm sure they get pumps of growth. What's that supposed to Google? Do they get pumps in movies? Yeah.

I like it's the wrong movie, you know? Yeah. They have pumps. If you guys do not think that, especially a superhero type of movie, I'm not saying that's done in every movie, but a movie where they make characters and just shiver here. Let's oil them up and let's let's bet lunch on this.

Adam, if you're wrong, you're buying lunch for a book. And by the way, Justin, use the word toned. Yeah, all right. Toned doesn't exist. Toned, like that's how people understand what I'm talking yeah we need a whammy I never that happens remember that show I can't believe on muscular no bro these are all day they're shooting and I get pumps all day long throughout that's not even on the right now you are a guy who tells people to do

trigger sessions all day long for five ten minutes. Look these are three a day Okay, spread out by hours if I'm doing a five hour shoot about every scene is not every scene is gonna be showing her like this I'm sure they're not have you ever been a reflection the shit Muscles look you're been a movie. What about you? All right? I know I'm talking I'm gonna do Google magic you can't Google this and figure this out for us. What? I'll come lunches on the line here.

Let's go, guys. Let's go, guys. And I need no five guys either. I want to Google it. I think Kyle's already figured it out over there. Right there. What do you think, Kyle? They're getting pumped, dude.

You guys are for sure wrong. No, I think the list of, they're not going to have to get a pump for five hours. They barely get fed. We just got to talk to one of their trainers dude That's again to the trainers on set and he's like getting them the the pump or like hand them bands like you say Listen, they know okay when they're shooting they the direct the director knows Hey, this is gonna be a close-up angle exactly on you sitting. I want you posture like this. We're gonna get dude

If you make up people to stop what production, immediately if like one little hair is in their face. That's not the same thing as maintaining a pump for five hours of shooting. Why would it be? Yes it is for not dude. Like he said, it's the close, it's the angle shots.

If you have a pump for a long, it makes you look like superhero. Listen, if you have a pump for longer than four hours, it's supposed to content. Listen, when I get to, that's what I mean. When you go to a show, okay, when you go to a body, I am there all day for four hours, it's supposed to content. Listen, when I get to, that's all I mean. When you go to a show, okay, when you go to a body

on a show, I am there all day for 12 hours, bro. And I do at least 30 trigger sessions that day. Okay, it's not unbrewed. And I've even, and I've got, but you're not acting. And I have quick sugars that I slam and then I get a pumper. Yeah, that's one show.

You're doing this for months. Okay, okay, okay. Let's put it into this this at least for Gerard Butler He did get a pump before action scene of course They all do and also In any movie where you have a superhero type of character where people are gonna be at u and off their bodies You would be stupid to not get it. Did you see the behind the scenes of what was the one? He was in with that the 300?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, most of those guys just barely were They sprained their abs. Yeah, this pretty good. And then they like, yeah, super impulsive. Yeah, I was like, this is crazy. Yeah, by the way, I just gonna say a pump. I'm just gonna say this right now, it's really dumb to be a soldier fighting more, no armor.

So you can show your abs. Yeah, it really is. That doesn't sound effective. Oh, wow, look at his abs, boop, arrow. Yeah, you're dead. It's like that meme to like, like, Rome is unrate for war and they put their skirt on. Yeah.

There's actually a show, or I don't know if it's a show, but I think it's, I wanna say it's on YouTube that there's a guy that breaks down military scenes or fight scenes and talks about how real or how fake they are. They tear them apart. I love it. I love that kind of stuff. Cause you watch a movie and you're like,

wow, is this what they, he's like, no, that's not how they fought. Yeah. Doesn't look like that at all. Did you guys know the whole like pushing with the shields thing? Holly would made that up because there's no evidence that they actually did that.

With the sea. Yeah, of course. Like to march him back to your house. I thought that one actually made sense. It kind of does, but he's like, there's no way. did that. Yeah, of course. Like to march him back. That one actually made sense. It does, but he's like, there's no one like one tight unit and they're all sort of walling off. So nobody. Yeah, the whole driving them back part. Yeah, he said he did. There's no, there was no evidence that they actually did anything like. What about when they make

like the dome or they like protect themselves? I know they do the fan links. Am I saying it right? Where they lock up. And then but it is a way to maintain the line Because that made sense to the arrows. Yeah, they just like have some guys covering I don't know. Yeah, I don't know it was logical at least They certainly are getting pumped so on the show that's yeah, that's settled. Munch is on I said it's just wrong I settled lunches on you. He just said it just wrongly by the way. I was saying it about me.

It's that, it's that on the bed. He still on me a car. Yes, that's it. I'll give you lunches and give you my car. That's fair. That's your bike, that's fair. You still gotta give that Mary K car. That's your little pink one.

What did you guys know that, do you guys know the origins of bio warfare, biological warfare? The origins of it? Yeah, like the, like the, historically, the first times that we actually used germ and bio warfare against each other. Oh, well, I know, like,

wasn't mustard gas for some, we had chemical. No, that's chemical. I'm telling you, bio. They would launch, they would launch people who died from the plague over the walls into other armies and shit. Dude. They were literally put in the catapult

and launch a bunch of frickin freaking dead plague victims at you. Yeah. Yeah. To cause everybody get sick, dude. Oh, wow. How messed up is that? By the way, how terrifying. You think you're so flyin' the air.

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while supplies last. All right, here comes the rest of the show. Our first question is from Jay Dunn's self fitness. What order should your programs be done in? Okay, so this question gets asked a lot and when I went to the quaw, meme, or whatever on the Instagram page to find questions, or like 10 people that ask a question like this,

like what is the ideal order of maps programs if I were to follow maps for a year or two year? And I like this question because it's all planned out. Yeah. You can do a lot. Now people will tell you in 30 days you can make these amazing transformations. Realistically, it's gonna be a year or two

to really make those dramatic changes. That also stick around, right? So I like the fact that people are talking about a year or two to plan it out to have that kind of sustainable type approach. But let's, I guess, break them down. We've talked about this before, but the first nine months is essentially why we have, the first workout bundle we put together was the RGB bundle, specifically for this. And what it is, is RGB stands for

red, green, black. Those are the colors of maps and a ball, like map performance and maps aesthetic. The first nine months, that is the perfect, perfect, that is the perfect order to start with. And if you did it and you were consistent, you'd have all your basis covered when it comes to strength training. Yeah. And you technically could repeat that cycle and be good for pretty much ever.

Yes. But there are some exceptions to the rule, for example, which is the birth of map starter or resistant maps of resistance, whereas if, which is the birth of map starter or, you know, resistant, map resistance, whereas if, or even maps anywhere, if I have somebody who travels, so that's for these other, yeah, that's for these other programs, sort of, to come into play, right? So as a generic answer, that is the perfect order. But if you had something specific where you said, like, hey, I travel, you know,

at least a week out of every single month or every year, we go for something for a month. What can I do there? Or I have minimal access to the gym. And so, is there something that I can do with little, little equipment? So, I came up with one that's general. Obviously, if we're talking to an individual, it can change. But generally speaking, if I'm talking to the average person who listens to the show, who I'd say our average listener wants to build muscles, sculpt their body, be leading, they want to look good, right? Obviously, maps in a ball, like maps performance, maps aesthetic. And then after that, I like maps power lift. And then after that, I like maps split. And then after

that, I like maps strong. So now you're looking at probably a year and a half of planned out workout programming, anabolic performance, aesthetic, power lift, split, which is bodybuilding focused, right? And then strong, which is kind of unconstitutional. I'm gonna add to that run there that I think belong here for everybody, okay? Oh, I think everybody should have maps prime, because it would end symmetry, okay? These are the two that those two

I was gonna do, yeah. Yeah, those two. To your answers. Justin, do you have any bad. No, I'm fine, I'm listening. Those two, those two in my opinion, have to be in there, okay? And for the audience, do you like symmetry?

Well, first let's go with the maps prime because, and let's talk about the idea behind that and why we created that. So when we start with any client, I don't care how advanced, how first of your brand new, where you're at in your fitness cycle or journey, we would always assess somebody.

A good trainer should always do that. If you ever hire a trainer and they get right into working out, that's your first red flag. That's a huge red flag. Yeah, assessment is crucial. No matter how advanced you are. No matter what. You're coming from.

No matter how advanced you are, because everybody has things that they can be working on and improving as far as their movement. There's gonna be better and worse exercise for everybody based on movement pattern. And that's what maps prime is. Now, maps prime is designed to complement all those. So it works in synergy to any of those programs.

It's not like you follow maps prime and then you go to maps. No, maps prime you follow along with them. It really is your compass because it's trying to direct you. Okay, here's a few things that stand out that you may need some work in that direction. So that way you will find symmetry. Maybe that lines up next because I have some issues I need to address. Now, if that's true, why didn't we write that

first? Well, the truth is we knew it wouldn't sell. Yeah. We knew nobody was selling an assessment program, even though we knew it was the right order for everybody to at least start there. We knew that it wasn't sexy. And there's no way we could have built a business being truthful off of that. So we gave what we thought was like a good starting point for a majority of people, which is the red green black, which is the point that you made, but in reality, everybody should have prime. Yeah, well, so to make it to simplify, Maps Prime will help you design your individualized, quote, unquote, warm up for each workout. We call them priming sessions. So it does, it takes your workout and now it makes it more targeted to your individual body. That's basically it. That's why prime

you run through the whole through the whole time. Now let's talk about symmetry. Where would you put symmetry in what I said, where you go, maps in a ball, maps performance, maps aesthetic, and then I said power lift split and strong. Where would you put symmetry in my opinion? Actually one is perfect to interrupt any of those. I agree. A gap in between or if you did the right order and got prime first and took your assessment and you find out there is a lot of discrepancy from left to right. Start with it. Say you do prime, you fail all the tests,

you're really, you have a very glaring, obvious, dominant side versus the other side. And in its visual even, we just had someone we answered a question, and they're like, oh, it was very obvious that my right trap was more developed my left, or we've had questions where someone's like, oh, my left pet is way more dominant than my right trap was more developed my left or we've had questions where someone's like, oh, my left pet is way more dominant than my right.

Like if you have like a glaring obvious in balances that you could visually see and feel, I would start there. So if you did prime and you found out, oh, wow, I'm really super different. I'm way off, you know, way I can balance on this side, on this side I'm way unstable and like I'm way weak on this side and way stronger. If you see that

there's a lot of discrepancy, then it's actually a great place to start before and I think there's no wrong answer. I think with symmetry you can throw that after or in between any program. Any of those. Yeah, but I mean think about it, right? If you took someone who was consistent, so somebody says I'm gonna be consistent. I'm gonna follow your programs, of course, nutrition's gonna be good, workout can only go so far with bad nutrition, so you could have good diet as well.

But imagine if someone followed that, that anabolic, well, first off, we've seen lots of people who've done the RGB bundle because that's our first bundle we've had it for a long time. And people send us pictures all the time, incredible results. But imagine if they followed that up with power lift, split, strong, and interrupted symmetry wherever they felt.

Like, you're talking about a year and a half, two years of workouts, and the changes somebody would go through and strengthen aesthetics would be profound. Oh, yeah. Absolutely profound. And you just constantly stay in the head of any potential plateau and by providing this new stimulus and new adaptation. And it just all feeds back into, it translates so well to all these other pursuits. So essentially we're talking about this. I think it's important to address what I think I see is the biggest mistakes that people make with when purchasing our programs is they tend to do what

most consumers do, which is buy the sexy stuff, and they ignore the things that are probably most important. Sure. So if you have most of the programs you just listed, but you don't have performance, or you don't have prime, I think that's the biggest mistake you can make. Because those two programs are going to address the mobility type issues that most people...

Which is going to result in a better looking physique, too. And I want to say that because I have to sell it, because I know you're saying what you're saying Adam and it's 100% accurate, but some people I don't care. I just wanna look good. You will look better if you train your body appropriately. So it's not just about mobility, which you should care about that.

It's not just about balance, although you should care about that. But if you have better mobility, better balance, your workouts will make you look better. But you could own six or seven of our programs, but be missing prime and performance, and you are missing two of the most important programs, in my opinion.

For a lot, if you are looking for overall, general health, strength, aesthetics, longevity, and you want a complete stack of programs, you absolutely have to have at least one, if not both of those in your routine. How do you feel about this? Okay, and of course we're talking general here, but if somebody did the RGB bundle,

okay, maps, enabolic, maps, performance, maps aesthetic, after that, they can kind of pick whichever program they want. Based off of my enjoy or. My opinion there, I know you gave what you like in a row, but my opinion is after you've done the three in a row, you have such a good foundation. Now go pick what you, what you, what is desirable. Like you want a static driven program.

Yes, you're stacking those. Or you want more stamina. Or stamina. Yes, more stamina. Yes, so we have enough programs that we've created and developed for those different types of avatars and people that are concerned with those different avenues of fitness. Totally.

Totally. But I mean, that's what you're talking about. Again, the original RGB bundle is nine months. A lot can happen in nine months. And then after that, you're in this great position where you're like, cool, I can have some fun and pick whichever program I want to follow. Next question is from Dominus Omnibus. Can kettlebells build muscle?

Oh, of course. And they kettlebells are exceptional muscle building arguably the original way to build muscle. But it's the dumbbell before the dumbbell was invented. I mean, literally the name dumbbell came from a kettlebell, which, which they got from a bell where they took the middle out, so they didn't ring. They called it a dumbbell. Now, later on, somebody took the name and trademarked it

and made a dumbbell, dumbbell. So they had to go and call it a kettlebell. But that's what dumbbells look like. In fact, you can see it in old cartoons. When you watch old cartoons with the strong man come out, there's always the barbell with the two big round weights at the end, and then they always have kettlebells. They don't use dumbbells.

But anyway, it's resistance, just like dumbbells, barbells, machines, cables. So yes, you could build tremendous muscle. The value of a kettlebell is the weight placement. It's the leverage difference. It's your handling the weight that's different and it's leverage and it's balanced then with a dumbbell or barbell, which means there's some exercises that are gonna be better

with a kettlebell, excuse me. and I'll make you this argument. If you asked me this five years ago or seven years ago, you would have got a different answer, but I'll say this now, if you're going to do a single lower shoulder press, kettlebell superior to the dumbbell, that's my 100% opinion. Because it's the way it's loaded in what it promotes in terms of the spiraling. Yes, that just naturally, functionally, your shoulder and elbow and wrist, they all kind of want to go in that spiral line. I love it.

And if you noticed in most of the programs, there's like some elements of like a rotational row, a rotational press. So like that tool itself, the kettlebell is amazing for adding those little hints of like functional, rotational movement while loading that. So I can't stress enough like how effective they are in terms of like two different ways to load the body that's more center to the body, which brings a lot more, it lowers the

risk factors, I guess, any drawbacks that you guys see? Well, some exercises are hard to do with kettlebells. You have to know how to have the kettlebell sit on your arm. There's a skill to it. So like if I'm doing a press, you know, when I use to train clients, some people complain about that because they'll get like a bruise on their... Yeah, because there's a way to position it and hold it.

So there's technique there. So you have to learn how to use it. The other drawback is when you do certain exercises, the handle has to move in your hand for the weight to move, which is not a bad thing, but if you're not, if you're used to a dumbbell where you keep a super tight grip, it's gonna feel kinda weird.

For example, a chest fly with kettlebells is amazing. Mainly because when I come up to the top, one of the disadvantages of a dumbbells, there's no resistance here, but with a kettlebell because it's sitting on the back of my arm, I actually get a little bit more resistance to the top than it would with dumbbell.

But when I lower and raise, I have to allow the handle to turn in my hand. So there's a learning curve with kettlebell. So I would have been skilled. It's a little more, it takes a little more skill to use kettlebells, and so because of the learning curve is a little bit longer there. And so for the absolute beginner, you know, it's an area like, if I'm training an absolute beginner, I may pick and choose a handful of kettlebell exercises that I'll use to teach them that I know that I know.

What are some superior extras like what are some exercise or kettlebell superior shoulder press? Single leg toe touch too. I think a single leg toe touch or single leg deadlift with a kettlebell is amazing. I mean, why? Cause it shortens the range of motion. It's just easier to manage and hold in position. So when I would do it with clients, I would start them with that. We could do dumbbells later on. I mean, I think it's easier. That's why it's short. I mean, it's not really that different as far as how you hold it or because the weights out the bottom, there's less of this side to side that I got to be careful for. And you're right, it is easier. Yeah.

But I like it. I like the weight. I mean, you're talking about beginner, so that's a good point. That's a fair point. Well, I mean, it's very technical, but a clean with the kind of bells is a lot safer. Like, it lowers the risk quite a bit. But still, you have to learn how to even create that hip-hanging effect to be able to perform a swing properly.

So, you know, there is a little bit of a barrier there in terms of education with them, but we're talking about like lifts like that, like in terms of a barbell versus a kettlebell. Like a lot of times I prefer kettlebells for that reason. Oh, I definitely do. It's very centri- I feel personally more confident doing that with a kettlebell than I do a kettlebell. Like a lot of times I prefer kettlebells for that reason. Oh, I definitely do. It's very centri- I feel personally more confident doing that

with a kettlebell than I do a barbell. I still don't think I'm proficient enough with a barbell. I haven't done it long enough. To do a clean is very technical with a barbell. Yes, yeah. But I feel confident with a kettlebell. I've done it in a lot of the way I feel good with that.

When I would train clients and when they were ready to do explosive movements, I would always start with a kettlebell, always, because it's just easier to handle versus a barbell. And the standard kettlebell swing is a great way to teach it. Totally. Teach powered explosiveness in the hips for a beginner client. And you can do moves like windmill and bent press and things that are like unconventional, but like address so many things that you're not addressing in your conventional programming, which is, a kettlebells are great for loading those types

of really sort of unconventional type lifts. Yeah, and here's another exercise, like if you want to develop a grip that is strong, that you can, that is, that communicates well to the rest of the body, and you also want to work on stability, shoulder stability, that communicates well to the rest of the body. And you also wanna work on stability, shoulder stability, a bottoms up kettlebell press, is fire.

It really is holding a kettlebell upside down, having to grip the handle really tight, and balance and keep the elbow under the kettlebell so that it doesn't flip on either side and press. It exposes, yeah, wrist stability. Yes. Like everything, like it's just like lateral stability. You gotta go slow and light.

I also think it's a must for a Turkish get up. I think that you could technically do a dumbbell, but it sucks. There you go. Because one of the limiting things or one of the challenges with a Turkish get up is getting a client to teach them to bring their arm all the way up in line with their ear.

And when you have a dumbbell, what they do, if you've ever trained a their ear. And when you have a dumbbell, what they do, if you've ever trained a Turkish get up with a client, with a dumbbell, is they cheat it forward and part of that exercise is teaching them and the weight being behind the wrist, pulls it back for you and it really helps that, it promotes that good posture in that movement.

So I have a client actually that doesn't like the kettlebell because it hurts her wrist. And so we would do Turkish gifts, I used to, and part of the reason why I don't do that off thing is I don't like how it doesn't promote the form that I want her to train in. Yeah, it's interesting about the whole, it hurts your form thing.

It's very similar to, oh, I don't like a barbell in my back because it hurts my back. It's, there's a technique to it. Whether you're skinny or muscular, there is a don't like a barbell in my back because it hurts my back. There's a technique to it. Whether you're skinny or muscular, there is a way to hold a kettlebell, so it doesn't hurt your arm. Now what helps is a good kettlebell company that makes kettlebells that are all regulation size,

even though they're lighter or more. This is why I always thought the on-it gorillas and the Star Wars were so stupid. I've never read that face. I used to talk shit about those things. It's all novelty, dude. It had no purpose in terms of adding to the exercises. I feel like if you're a real kettlebell enthusiast,

you had to look at that stuff and just think it's stupid. Oh, bro. It'd be like putting a gorilla face on a barbell and me squinting underneath the gorilla face, dig it into my neck. No, it's like that plate. Have you seen that plate? Has a guy on it, like this Olympic lifting kind of guy.

And then like, you know, as you slide the plate on, it's like his, his, no, I haven't seen that. No, I haven't seen that. Oh, we'll put a picture of it. Oh, that's a whole, I got it. Don't worry. It's ridiculous. Thank you, Justin.

Pitcher, Justin. Next question is from our Julian Talens. How would you describe training to technical failure to someone who doesn't push themselves hard enough? So there's two different ways people will use the failure when they lift. And there's really only one that I recommend. Okay, now you can do the other one too,

but I would save that for very special occasions. You have a spotter. So one of them is failure is your last perfect rep. Okay, so it's the last rep you could do perfectly, and you know if you do another one, you're gonna have to take your hips off the bench or twist your body or use body movement or English to get the way to move.

So that last perfect rep, that's the one that you're done and the next one would be failure, which means you have to use something else to make the weight move. Then other people use failure as, I can't move the weight anymore. So it's like, I literally failed. I did squats and then I had to put it on the safety because I couldn't squat.

If you're a trainer, trainer client, you have no business even going there. There's no reason for you to push a client there. I think that's what this question comes up because I think people think that you can build the most amazing physique and never take your client to a place where they struggle so bad they can't get the rep out.

You literally can't. And that's what I think about when I see a question like this, it's like, okay, so you have this client who as soon as their body gets a little wobbly or shaky or the ref gets challenging, they're like, okay, I'm done and they want to re-wrap. Okay, I think that big of a deal. I'm not really tripping on that. If I took them to the point where we've loaded the bar enough to where they their next rep is going to be shaky and

a little wobbly, but maybe they could still squeeze out two or three more. I ain't tripping. Yeah. I care more about form and technique. Yeah. No. And if I do recommend failure, it's to people who are advanced and it's technical failure. And there are some advantages, but you have to program it properly and appropriately, nobody does this. Every program I've ever seen that uses failure, it doesn't program it properly. So there can be some benefits, but what Adam said is 100% true too. You can never go to failure and get phenomenal results with great program.

I totally agree, you know, in terms of like your average person and training and those are the things that what I'm struggling with right now, which is a totally different situation, is with high school kids that don't push themselves very hard and don't really understand that concept yet. And so to to engineer that is difficult. And so I'm kind of working my way through this by introducing them to to lower reps reps and what that whole psychology involves and how to increase the difficulty by loading more weight, which sounds like stupid and obvious, but they're so used to wanting to do more reps. And so in that instance, what you said applies in terms of perfection of form

and when you stop getting perfection in terms of wraps like you're stopping. However, with this, it's like, I mean, that still applies, but it's like being able to understand that your mind creates limitations until you expose yourself. Well, to more demand.

Context matters here, okay? If you were talking to me, okay, when we answer a question like this, I always think general pop right away, right? Like, yeah. I'm with you. When you talk to about a high school young athlete who is super resilient and is playing a sport

where mental fortitude is extremely important, I'm gonna flirt with those boundaries. I am gonna push them to more. Plus, they don't know where failure is. You ever train a client or even yourself? And you would like, you know what? I'm gonna go to failure on the set of squats. I haven't done that a long time.

And you're like, oh boy, this last one, I know it's gonna be my last one. And you're doing like, oh, actually I got another one. I got another one. Like, wow, failure's further than I thought. Okay, so I think that's the case this person is making with a regular client. And I'm okay with that.

That's okay still for me with a regular client. But with that, in your case, I'm gonna push a regular client. And I'm okay with that. That's okay still for me with a regular client. But with that in your case, I'm gonna push a little more. A regular client, even if they don't understand that they easily had three more, four more than 10, and they wanted to quit right there, I'm not tripping out that much. I can still progressively overload them in different ways. I could trick them by slowing down the tempo

or making them pause at the bottom. How many times have you guys done that? You're on rep eight, they gotta do 10, but you're like, oh, this guy's gonna like five more reps. Like we're gonna take 10 seconds on the slurs. That's right. So there's lots of trainer tricks to progressively overload the body without just always adding more reps

or adding more weight that you can do to play that mental game. And I'm okay again with them being falling short a little bit of pushing themselves to failure. Now, if I'm Justin's shoes, I'm a again with them being falling short a little bit of pushing themselves to failure. Now, if I'm Justin Shuse, I'm a coach with high school kids who want our super resilient already are less likely to hurt themselves as my 65 year old beginner lady.

And I also know that there's tremendous carryover in teaching mental fortitude to the football field. I'm gonna flirt with those boundaries way more. And I'm gonna like me to push that client. Totally. Next question is from S. Benazzi, what are the benefits of strength training on arthritis? Go boy. Awesome.

It's now considered essential. So if you have rheumatoid arthritis or arthritis, now of course this is the context of proper application or strain training. Right dose. It is considered essential. Now think of it this way. Obviously, arthritis affects the joints. It's an inflammatory autoimmune oftentimes disorder. What supports your joints and has your joints move in ways that are optimal, right? Strong, stable muscle. So when you strengthen,

and you have to train someone appropriately, or train yourself appropriately, if this is you, but if you have strong, stable muscles, your joints are now supported better, less damage is gonna be caused, and there's an anti-inflammatory effect systemically with muscle anyway, muscle so protective to the body that just gaining muscle improves things

like insulin sensitivity and inflammation anyways. So it's essential, it's not just, hey, does this help me or not? And I know it sounds counter. Like if you have arthritis, the last thing you think you should do is move that joint. But if you train it properly and appropriately,

it's incredible. And I've had so much success with this because at one point, I trained a lot of doctors, and I remember one lady in particular, she's a general surgeon, one of the smartest people I've ever met in my life, by the way, wonderful woman. She was a general surgeon,

and she told me, hey, I have arthritis in my knees, so I can't do any squats. And I said to her, okay, but don't be surprised, if we get to the point where you can do squats and feel much better. And I knew better than to counter her directly,

so I just kind of said it like. Yeah, where did we start with? Hip bridges on the floor, right? Very minimal knee flexion and extensions all in the hips Eventually we got her to doing walking lunges and squats and she was blown away. She's like I've had imaging I know I have arthritis. I have an osteopath friend that told me she goes I can't believe how much better my knees feel from And then she would just recommend me every patient she had. Very similar story with some of the arthritis, but this is where I found the value in the sled specifically. Yeah, it's a great one.

Yeah, and so that's where I started. And it was amazing how much because of the volume and the consistency of that concentric contraction without the more damaging e-centric portion and choose able to build quite a lot of muscle and then that carried over into then being able to do squats and being able to do that without as much of the pain. One of the reasons why we, so my grandma had rheumatoid arthritis, right, her whole life. And one of the things that causes the chronic pain is the lack of blood flow to the joints.

Yeah. So one of the worst things that you can do when you have that chronic pain, and it feels like you don't want to move, stay fixed. Is to take your vikin' and pill and just lay around all day. Although that temporarily makes you feel like that would make you feel better.

In fact, you getting out and just promoting movement is the best thing you could possibly do to promote that blood flow. So, but it's hard. I mean, I get it. Like when you, when you're in pain, when you're off on a cell, the, the viking in and laying on the couch seems like that's a way better. It feels better in the short term. You're right.

But, but in reality, the best thing in your story with your client with the arthritis and her news is exactly right. It's like, is to get that person, at least moving first, you know, and many times when they have a specific joint where they have arthritis, they're gonna be fearful of that.

Yeah, when I would older arthritis, oh God, I can't do anything with my shoulders. Okay, let's just get moving right now. I got really good at working with this because these clients of mine would send me a lot of their patients. And I would say probably 70% of them dealt with some form of arthritis So I had all these clients with arthritis and my strategy was isometrics

I use lots of isometrics because it doesn't require Movement of the joint, but it has strength in the muscles around the joint And just promote the pain which is a pretty cool effect immediately. Yeah immediately So I would do isometrics. I would work on the joints surrounding the painful joint. So if your knee really hurts to the point where we can't do anything, that flexes are extended the knee. Well, do some isometrics, and then I'm going to work your hips and your ankles.

And then that would lead to then eventually me getting to actually train the joint, usually in a shortened range of motion, but then over time, we would increase that range of motion, and you would see traumatic results. There was a study I pulled up while we were talking. It was an eight week study. This is two months. That's nothing. Okay, when I'm talking about clients I've worked with, I'm talking about over a year or two years, right, where they would get these dramatic results.

Eight weeks, and eight weeks, three days a week of basic strength training, the average person with arthritis in this study saw a 23% reduction in pain. In eight weeks, there isn't a drug that does that. There isn't a pain killer drug that can do that, and they did that through exercise. Now, here's the beauty of this and why it's so much better than pain killers. You don't develop a tolerance to it.

There's no negative side effects, and it only gets better. It, it improves if they got a 23% reduction in eight weeks What do you think they're gonna see in the next eight weeks and the next two years and so on? It's gonna continue to go down maybe at some point they'll hit a ceiling But it only gets better. It doesn't get worse unlike painkillers and drug medications. Look if you like the show Head over to mind pump free.com and check out our guides.

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