Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1859: How to Get Rid of the Last 5 Pounds of Body Fat, the Best Rep Range for Maximum Results, When Supplements are a Waste of Money & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: July 16, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: One of the EASIEST ways to optimize your hormones is to simply lift weights! (3:03) The guys get geeky on old sci-fi/horror films of the 80s. (12:54) What percentage of men and women fantasize about murder? (16:51) The pros and cons of A.I. (20:33) ‘Taco floss’ is in style. (27:15) What’s the deal with the Georgia Guidestones? (34:11) NCI is giving away a full-ride scholarship! Apply now! (38:08) Mind Pump Investments: Are NFTs dead? What is going on with the crypto markets? (41:03) #ListenerLive question #1 - How can I get rid of the last 5 pounds of body fat and boost my metabolism? (49:49) #ListenerLive question #2 - Is there any stuff/workout/diet or anything I should be following to keep my vertical up in volleyball? (1:01:18) #ListenerLive question #3 - When is it superior or appropriate to train in one rep range solely for an amount of time (3-4 weeks) or switch every phase versus the style of hitting each rep range each workout consistently (Start with your big lift or two in lower rep ranges, then move to a lift in 8-12 range, then towards end hit the higher range/your finishers)? (1:17:27) #ListenerLive question #4 - With numerous sponsored products from the show like electrolytes, vitamins, green/red drinks, CBD, pre and post-workout supplements, etc. Where does a guy start if wanting to try supplements? (1:27:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! NCI x Mind Pump Scholarship July Promotion: RGB Bundle or MAPS Suspension 50% off! **Promo code JULY50 at checkout** Mike Mutzel post Joovv Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum MP Hormones 'Flesh-eating robot' is actually a vegetarian, say inventors Fashion Nova bikini has jaws dropping as shoppers say you might as well be 'bottomless' What Did The Georgia Guidestones Say? Mysterious Words On Blown Up Monument Far right called U.S. ‘Stonehenge’ satanic — and cheered when it blew up Ancient Japanese 'killing stone' said to contain a demon has CRACK All-In Podcast E85: SBF's crypto bailout, Zendesk sells for ~$10B, buyout targets, US diplomacy, AlphaFold & more Visit Oli Pop for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 15% off your first order** 30 Days of Coaching | Mind Pump Media Reverse Dieting 101 | MAPS Fitness Products MAPS Cardio Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog Why You Need to Mix Rep Ranges After Periods of Training – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1827: The 3 Best Rep Ranges To Build Muscle & Burn Fat MAPS Fitness Prime Pro MP Holistic Health Equi.life is offering all Mind Pump listeners an at home Minerals & Metals At-Home Lab Test for 50% off! Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Mike Mutzel, MS (@metabolic_mike)  Instagram David Friedberg (@friedberg)  Twitter Paul J. Fabritz (@pjfperformance)  Instagram Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral)  Instagram

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your hormones in a way, or it tends to at least, in a way to build muscle. What does that mean? Higher levels of anabolic hormones, better insulin sensitivity, a better balance of estrogen and progesterone, higher testosterone, amen. So again, if you wanna optimize your hormones, start lifting weights to build muscle, get stronger,

your body will do that. Great equalizer. How fine of a dance do you think this is? Oh, you over-trying to go to the opposite direction. That's right, me. So like, is it a very fine line, you think? Like, do you think that everybody has... The difference between building and not building.

Right? So if your body is building muscle and getting stronger, the part of the way it does is it takes its hormones and it changes them and modifies them to do so. Same thing with losing muscle. Like if you over train, or let's say you just do tons of cardio and you starve yourself, your body will also organize its hormones in a way to pair muscle down,

to slow your metabolism down. So again, getting healthier generally optimizes hormones, but only strength training you've been shown across the board to have this effect. And it doesn't just have this effect on hormones, it also increases the amount of angiogen receptors that you have available, which is what the testosterone attaches to. So literally, it's like your body is like, let's become anabolic and give you a youthful hormone profile so we can build some muscle. So literally, it's like, your body is like, let's become anabolic and give you a youthful hormone profile so we can build some muscle.

You know, I've understood this for a really long time, but never did I feel it until I went through that whole coming off of steroids from after competing. Oh, right. Where I consistently took testosterone, synthetic testosterone for like almost five years there, like nonstop, no breaks, five years straight. And then I came off.

And even though I didn't cut cold turkey, even just weaning off over the course of five, six months and then going to nothing for probably six months, I would say, and I remember, I talked about it on the show, so you can go back and listen to me sharing that journey. But I remember like being so unmotivated to even lift. And it was just like, oh, I just felt with thargic,

I felt tired all the time and like going to the gym, I lost my love to train even, you know? And but I remember, boy, especially if I did things like squatting or deadlifting, like a big gross motor movement. And if I just did that too, didn't even have to be a great big workout, but I did that.

I would feel like how much better my hormones would feel the next 24 hours after that. And then I would feel it go back down again if I was consistent. And then if I do it again, I'd feel it. So I never had felt that before until it was so low. So I mean, I've known this for a long time, but that really highlighted to me like how powerful that is. Yeah, I've had clients actually measure this where, you know, I

would have some clients that would hire me. That would be really up to date with their blood tests. So, you know, they were just, they were into health and they would know, well, here's my normal hormone profile. Here's what's going on. And I can count, I want to say maybe four clients off the top of my head, male, who they knew what their testosterone's were at baseline levels were normally. Then we started strength training and they would see an increase of like 30, 40% in their testosterone levels. And they would trip out. That's a ton.

Yeah, and they would trip out. They're like, this is so crazy. It's just the weights and I said, yeah, you're just building muscle. Yeah, the process of building muscle really, it's like directly parallel to that, optimizing your hormones. Like they both require the adequate amount of recovery.

You know, the stress has to be managed appropriately. The entire, like you would be well fed, you gotta get sleep. Like, appropriately, the entire, like, you would be well fed, you're gonna get sleep, like, so all of that, like, that's why I think just focusing on building muscle a lot of times, it kind of takes care of itself at the end of the day. Now, what's your theory on tools, like, you know, let's say, like, you know, a Jew of Red Light, like, to do that? Because I remember I was, I was like throwing the whole kitchen sink at Trying to get my hormones to get back up naturally, right? So I did that too You had me on a supplement stack that I was taking. I mean obviously I was trying to optimize sleep like

I was doing a lot of different things and I remember I became very motivated to use the The red light when I got a message from our friend, Metablock Mike, right? This is Instagram handles Metablock Mike, I think it's a month old. Months old, months old. Month old, sorry. He did a, like a test on himself, right?

He got, he went and got his blood work done, got his hormone levels checked, and then he did this protocol consistently with the red light therapy, and he saw a dramatic increase. He saw like this, I mean, I light therapy and he saw a dramatic increase. He saw like this. I mean, I want to say he was somewhere in the three to four hundred range and he jumped all the way up to seven hundred and something from it.

And so he sent that privately to me and said, Hey, you know, I know you guys talk about red light. He goes, but I've actually tested this on my testosterone. You should mess with it. It works. I mean, this is documented. It's documented that it works and raises testosterone. Nothing's gonna compare to the process of building muscle

and improving your health through exercise, right? Nothing's gonna compare to that, but if you combine it, yes, you see even more pronounced. Well, and how much difference, yeah, because I agree with that statement, at least that was my experience, right? Because I was doing everything and I, nothing I felt more than having a squat day

or a deadlift, deadlifty. And how much of a difference is it make doing a session like that that is a heavy compound lifting day versus let's say a circuit training workout? Oh, big. Because it's, okay, so think of it this way, okay. Think about how hard it would be for the body to build muscle with low testosterone, right? We know, we work with a hormone clinic in fact, if you're in, you know, people can look

at mphormones.com, and you'll hear the reports and people like, I just couldn't build muscle no matter what everything is aggrined. And they had medically low testosterone levels for whatever reason, couldn't raise it up, so they had to use medication, but then once they went on it was like everything works. It was very very hard to build muscle with low testosterone. It's also very hard to lose muscle with high testosterone. So you'll see with like athletes and stuff that use testosterone and diet they'll be able to preserve muscle. Anyway, the reason why I'm saying this is when your body is trying to build muscle it'll take its hormones and organize it in a way to do that. And part of that is raising testosterone and making the testosterone more available, meaning

more free testosterone, and also increasing angiogen receptor density. And also, this happens as a direct result of building muscle, increasing insulin sensitivity. Muscle is a very insulin-sensitive tissue. It stores carbohydrates as well. And it has a profound effect. I mean, they've done studies on obese people where they have them build a little muscle, lose no weight, just build some muscle, and we see improvements in their insulin-sensitive.

Wow, Doug, you actually found the post. Yeah, so he did this for 70 days with the Juve light. It was 70 days. 70 days, 10 minutes a day. He went from a 501 to 902. It has to be a big jump. Yeah, it has a big jump. Huge.

He went to the upper limit of where you would be. Doing everything the same just added the red light. Yes, yeah. Yeah, that's one person, right? Right, of course. Sure, I mean, it's interesting. Results may vary. I mean, he talks about how skeptical he was.

Well, the studies on it show that it works. It definitely works. And the way it works, it also helps regrow hair and it improves the texture and the look of your skin. It speeds up recovery. So now someone's like, I guarantee people are like, what is this magic or what is this called? That's right.

No, the way it works is red light, literally, it first of all penetrates your body and it gets your mitochondria to be more efficient and effective. So the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. And if mitochondria works well, the cell works better. If mitochondria works not so well, you become sicker or you age faster. So if you shine red light on, let's say,

lighting cells, which are in the testes, which help produce testosterone. Now they're gonna produce more testosterone. If you shine red light on, let's say, lighting cells, which are in the testes, which help produce testosterone. Now they're gonna produce more testosterone. If you shine it on your scalp, the cells that produce hair will now produce more hair or thicker hair, for example, or your skin will regenerate faster. So that's what red light does.

By the way, it's been around for decades, and we have studies going back to the 70s, showing it's effect. So it's not this new crazy thing. What's new about it is that now- They've improved on it. Well, and also now you have commercially available red light panels. You, yes.

Yeah. Well, I keep thinking about like how many different variations of colors and things they've experimented with and like why they, how they even like stumbled upon red light is promoting these types of benefits because it's just like so such a random thing to shine red light on your body and get that kind of like responses. It started with space. So they tested different. Because all the radiation. There's a lot of light radiation on plants and space to see what it's.

Yeah, so it's not just red light. So if you buy a red light bulb, you know, it makes it red. That's not the same thing. It's not gonna work out. No, it's a specific spectrum and, you know, is this the reason why the red light is in total recall? I'm sorry. No, I think that's Mars' red.

Oh, yeah, but I think they have a bunch of red lights if I recall, no? No, it's because it's red. The lights that were lit up, it's, is this what they mean? Is this what Roxanne had to do with the red light Total recoil I figured it was a sci-fi show so I figured that was something that they included in there like no, it's not Yeah, I don't was a Jew Sometimes they make you know like how Matrix like everything's kind of green hue. So you know they're in the Matrix? Yeah, so they do stuff like that

where they try and create kind of a environment where it all, oh I'm in this environment. You just took a red hue. You just took a down a rabbit hole, but man, you wanna talk about, by the way, the remake of Total Recall sucks compared to the original Ridin' House where it's at. But the story line's pretty wild if you think about it.

Like it's in the future Yeah, and rather than paying for an expensive vacation mental vacations You can pay for the memories so they hook you up and then you you come out like wow, that was great You know, but you didn't go anywhere. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I could totally see that being something people would be for totally You know, hey, come on. I totally see that mean while you're a're a mentoring candidate when you get out of it. They just bark like a dog and they're like, oh, you go. I have to shoot somebody.

I've been buying more of these Bill Gates, whatever. That's the result. Did you, my favorite scene of total recall, what's your favorite scene? I got two favorite scenes of that. You're trying to pin me to the three booby booby. No, come on, guy. You were kind of like, you pinned yourself booby. No, come on guy.

You forgot about that. You pinned yourself. Oh man. I thought exactly. Oh my god, I'm not that famous. No, he's just expecting you to know the line. He didn't look at me because I'm not going to know the lines. I remember that.

I forgot about that. The three boobs. A cookie for you. How could you get that? She takes her shirt. That's what I like. Every teenage voice dream. You remember that dog?

I do remember that. Actually, get the poster in your room. I'm sure it's an island. Every teenage voice dream. You don't remember that, Doug? I do remember that. Actually, I'm gonna get that poster in your room. I got nine kids here earlier. Yeah, no, there's two scenes. One is when they fly out the airlock, and they're on the ground, and then for whatever reason, Arnold's face starts to get all weird. Yeah, so shaking is, that was a nice spot.

And then, and also when they found Quatto. Yeah, Quatto. Okay, so I showed my, I told my, my daughter about, so my daughter's 12, about to turn 13. Yeah. And I was like, do you know who Quatto is? Cause she likes weird, scary shit. I told you guys, you guys know this. She's like, she's into like, she's 12,

but she's, I don't know, way older than her age when it comes to this kind of stuff. So we were talking about rotest monsters and stuff and I said, do you know who Quatto is? Yeah. She's like, no, I'm like, it was a character and total recall. And it was a mutant

that came out of somebody's belly. Okay, so like sci-fi horror, that was another popular threat of sci-fi horror, right? Remember all those other, like even alien, like we're those popping out at the diner and like coming out of somebody, like there was always some kind of parasite or something coming out of somebody's stomach.

Like it was a thing. Did you guys think that that always stems from like some, from something that was going on during that time, like in like science or like that was like news or something. It's in the air, some idea, and everybody was kind of had that scene. Right, right. Well, in my opinion, the peak of these kinds of special effects,

because then you got CGI, right? The peak of it was like 80s, 90s, and then CGI came in and it kind of now changed everything. It's totally, I guarantee it is a special effects thing from like, you know what I mean, that's a good point. I mean, you see that trend today still, like you always, like somebody comes out

with new cutting edge stuff, like Spielberg does something that no one's done, and then like the next 10 cool movies there like that include that. Well like like alien won so many awards, so iconic for the design of the actual alien monster head with a little mouth. Oh yeah, the little mouth those. That shredder one awards.

There was a there was a magazine. I didn't subscribe to it, but I'd read it when I go to the 711. What was that magazine that they would show like horror, like makeup artists and weird shit in there? Do you guys ever remember that? I always looked at that. I've seen it in the members.

Yeah, I don't remember any of that. It was super metal, come on. Yeah. It was hella metal, dude. Yeah, yeah. I even read that comic book, the heavy metal, that comic bookers all sci-fi, like Conan, looking people. Yeah, yeah.

But anyway, I flipped through it and you'd see these, like Harry and the Henderson, they wanted a reward for that. Oh really? Yeah, for the costume of Harry. Yeah, he was so expressive. Like they had like animatronic stuff on his face. Go back in time, you see the first like award-winning ones was Planet of the Apes, which now looks silly.

You look at it now, my kids make fun of it. But I'm like, this shit was good back of the day. You have no idea. But like it looks stupid, we can tell it's a mess. Like we grew up with Alph. Yeah. The stupidest character of all time, I loved it. I read something I wanted to ask you guys about,

you know, I forget which one, I'm reading a couple books right now at the same time and I don't remember which one it was in, but I thought it was a really interesting stat that I'm like, I gotta ask the guys because I would have been off if I would have been asked. What percentage of men and women, both are different numbers, okay? I got to ask the guys because I would have been off if I would have been asked. What percentage of men and women, both are different numbers, okay?

So give me both. Phantasize about murder. Whoa. Phantasize? Yes. Phantasize, right? You mean committing it? I was not.

I'm not everybody, bro. See, maybe you would have been way more accurate. I was like, I haven't been fantasized about killing anybody. I just feel like everybody's had Just your doorcast bro He's all is all every what do you mean like daily? Consequences you know you kind of like role play this whole thing out wow Do you guys aren't being honest?

The reason why I brought this up was because the number was much higher than I would have thought I've never thought I've never gone through my mind and fantasize about literally murdering so I've been so mad that I thought I could kill that person Okay, so I can't do it, but you know the thoughts Okay, many women are getting my whole plan He's about to use about the plan There is a percent. It's not a hundred. I'm already been to honest.

I'll tell you the, there is a difference. Men and women are different in this. Okay, and there is a percentage. Well, first let's guess who's more, men or women. Oh, I think that's all these. You think so? Okay, well, no, go ahead. What do you think?

Well, okay, so that one's obvious. I think the obvious answer feels like men, but the female mind is very mysterious, bro. I mean, you never know, dude. I'm wondering, it's all lives in there. Yeah, so they just like, where are you at? In the world, the lives in here. Yeah, men are high.

Oh, yeah, men are higher. Okay. What are the pros of doers, right? Don't we murder more? Well, yeah, we're more aggressive through the, the sense that we would fantasize about murder more than the other. But I have, I wrote down like all the percentages because I wanted to ask guys is okay So what do you think what the person Justin is reading terms 100%

Yeah, what do you guys think the percent of for men and what the percentage for women? Oh 60 40 I see at least 80 for men it is 79 Wow 79 for man. What do you think women is? 60 almost 60 a 58 okay Okay. Now here we go. That's what we're talking about, right? Now, let's take it a step further. What do men fantasize about murdering and what do women fantasize about?

As far as what type of people? Who are they murdering? Yes, who are they? Who are they husband? What men? What would men? Are men fantasized about killing their ex-wives? Or are they?

Nope, it's not that. Okay. Boss? Yeah. Yes. They're boss? Are men fans of a killing their like X wives or their? I know it's not that okay boss. Yeah, yes, they're boss. That's okay. So there's there's two for men men. Oh, we're watching you. I'm going to my employer. Men are strangers and co-workers or what they they strangers. Yes. Why would you fantasize about killing a stranger?

I know that's we I was climbing that one. That's that's left. Only people he knows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really close that I'm like, I'm like, I only feel real people. Hey, get ready for this one. Yeah, what do you think women are? Their husbands family members, family members,

family members in general. They're cute, that's dirty. Yeah, and then what is the most common between the two sexes? Oh, I don't know. It's like a infidelity cheated step parents. Oh, wow. Yeah, like mother and eight,

those porn sites would have you believe otherwise. It's like, I didn't know they were trying to kill them. I always thought they were trying to. Really? Yeah, yeah. Boy, people are weird. This is why when AI robots come, and they look like humans and they're kind of hard to distinguish between humans and robots

That is gonna highlight we're gonna see the depravity of the human mind people are gonna be weird shit to these poor robots The you talking about AI it's and you guys know about what they've Been alarmed by recently with Google yeah, and and how NASA actually you know was was I think they they put out the warning. But they were trying to describe this AI algorithm as its own, it's basically like, it's an alien because it thinks differently. It's its own thing. So it's like if you think of it not in terms of the human mind,

it's its own way of processing, thinking, acting, like it's just going to be a totally different thing. Creating real self-aware AI or the attempt is, to me, a perfect example of the painfully, the painful and dangerous narcissism that humans have. Why am I saying that? We don't even know about the human mind. We don't even know the human mind. We know more about the universe, about the universe millions of light years away than we do about our own minds.

And yet we're gonna try and create a self-aware machine. Well, we're in a rush to create. We're just in this mad rush to create. And it's like we don't even think about consequences anymore. It's just like we can do it first. Yeah, and then we're just gonna happen. But like I said, we create these robots.

It's gonna be weird, bro. People are gonna buy robots to kill them. We're gonna buy robots. I don't think that weird. What I think is gonna be really interesting and I do think that we will get close to it in our lifetime, that we are gonna be able to automate so much and have these

robots do so much for us that literally we won't have to do much. People will be able to have these robots do most of the labor and the work for us. And we're going to have three new printers. We're going to be able to have most of everything we want. And we're going to have this like you're not going to own anything and you're going to love it. Well, thanks, we're gonna have this like, you're not gonna own anything and you're gonna love it. Well, thanks, World, I can, I love it. Or you'll have everything. So maybe you'll have, maybe it's all you need is the barcode under forearm and you can have everything. And what I think is gonna be most interesting

is how much higher depression, suicide and all those things are then even more so important now. I think I think when we have all these things that everybody thinks they want so bad, and then we get them, and we innovate, and we get there, and it's like, we're more unhappy than we ever were. Of course, you know what I'm saying?

I love that, I love that. You share that one show, what's it called that you just brought up the other day? Yeah, it's quite a zone. That one episode where the heaven and hell won. Yeah. I just think that's such a great a now. So that's so long ago, right?

That shows like 30 years old or something like that. Oh, we older than that. Yeah, super old show. And to think where we're at now, it's like, whoa, people are in our lifetime maybe potentially be able to have most of them. I don't know. You know, it's funny,

anybody who wants to argue with what you're saying. So essentially what you're saying in a nutshell is we're gonna get to the point where you get everything we want and then we're gonna realize we're still unhappy, still anxious, what the hell's going on. For anybody who needs evidence of that, just look it now. It's way easier life is easier now, objectively

than it was 70 years ago, okay? We're just creating a poor person today has significantly more than a king or a queen did, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Yes. Just because it wasn't available. Right. But look at anxiety, look at depression, look at unhappiness.

It's higher today than it was then. How do you reconcile that, right? So it's just going to keep happening. People are going to keep getting what they think they want. And they're going to realize that that's something's missing. To me, that is self-sabotation. That is going to be the craziest, most interesting and most talked about thing when we get to the, I think I like to think that we're going to be

self-aware enough as we make, because it's inevitable, we're going to make some dumb mistakes with AI along the way. And, you know, well, I mean, and I think that before gets like a crazy scary sci-fi movie, we'll be smart enough to not allow that to happen. So I think that's a little 10-foil hat for me, but I do think, although I got to point out that we do have robots that were engineered to basically consume all organic matter in

the battlefield, meaning they consume dead bodies. What? What? Yes. We made a robot like that. Yes. Why? What? Exactly why? What? And what do you think robot like that. Yes. Why? Exactly why? What?

And what do you think that scares a share of me? What did you get there? Where did you get that? That's real, dude. A robot that goes and eats dead bodies. Yeah, like it's in the same amount. And as soon as organic matter, meaning it cleans up the battlefield and it's powered by like organic material.

Wow. Yeah, you need a fact check this, does it? Yeah, it's powered by organic material. Wow. Yeah, you need a fact check this, does this surprise me? This is actually me. Justin has never, every time he's, he's probably weird up. I'm all right. It's real.

Yeah, 100%. You guys, yeah, yeah. It bad doubts me. It's fine. I like saying that now. Sounds like I know what I'm talking about with you. He's adding a thousand. That's like 100%.

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like Justin thinks, what is it supposed to do? Well, this is actually a vegetarian, what's that all about? I don't know. I got to read in deeper. It's such a peaceful robot. Yeah. We're reading up here about this. I never heard of this. Random. I don't even remember. It just just popped in when we were talking about this. Wow. Wow. I don't know. How was someone not made a sci-fi movie around that? I know. I feel like that. That's like a sci-fi movie. We. Oh, no. I feel like that's like a sci-fi movie if you create a one-way now. Yeah, waiting to happen.

I don't know. Especially if it runs off of organic material, like you could, yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, what was the zombie robot? What was that one, was it, I robot, the one with Will Smith, where the robots, the number one rule,

like a long time ago, scientists came up with the rules, like you would give AI machines and robots to prevent them from hurting humanity. And one of them was they must never hurt a human. Never harm a human. They always protect us. And then in I robot, wasn't it there where the robots, they figured, oh, the best way to protect humans is lock them for themselves.

Lock them in the house. Yeah, that is I robot. Yeah, that's I robot, which is brilliant because that's true. If you were an AI machine and you did look at humanity, you'd be like, well, they're the biggest risks to each other. Quarantine them all. Yes. Lock you guys all up. And don't worry, we'll give you all the video games and heroin you want, you'll be fine.

Yeah. Oh, man. That's crazy. All right, now that we're scared, I'm gonna take this back up. Yeah, bring us back up. I'm gonna take this to, I don't know if this is up, down, I don't know if it's up, but have you guys seen this, this new bikini bottoms that they're coming up? Yeah. It's much better conversation. I got to send this picture to the little triangles.

I've tried to come up with a term for this. The little kitty thing you could tell. It's like, we'll call it taco floss. Taco floss? It's so, so, my gosh. No, you didn't just call it that. I did. So, the bottoms of the bikini, so we have thongs.

They used to keep this guy in checked out. So we have so we can't you just can't So we have we have thong bikinis. We've had that for a long time like this like that. The term makes sense. Yes, like that Like you can see the thong bikini all the buttons has examples Yeah, I need to go I'm a bikini connoisseur. Why is it a picture of you? ready to go. I'm a bikini connoisseur. Why is it a picture of you wearing a bikini connoisseur, you don't say? So anyway, we know the thong covers just the crack and you get the whole cheek set.

Now the front, they're trying to get smaller to wet. Like, what are you going to, what's going to happen? Is this you complaining right now? Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, I got daughters, bro. Yeah, yeah. Look at that. Yeah, yeah.

So you get to do it. If she takes the wrong step or moves the wrong way or anything aside from standing there, would you call it? You're going to get side lip. There's nothing you can do about it. I'm not mad at it, but you know, I mean, okay, so there's another way to look at this too. Like, where are we going with this?

I don't know. I don't know. Well, maybe we're going back. I'm not hating it. No, we're not. Maybe we're going back. I'm not hating it. No, we're not. Maybe we're going back. I mean, okay, let's be really honest, okay?

The opposite is if you were to really get in the middle of the day, we are a bunch of apes that have evolved. The fact that we put a bunch of clothing on ourselves that's colored and expensive, that's fucking weird. It would be more no longer just a walk around naked. Why? What is logic?

Other than keeping horns going to be where you live somewhere like California, okay, we're fine. Well, okay, so this is a good discussion. So when you look at cultures across the world, modern hunter gatherers, for example, what's almost always universally covered is male genitalia. Almost always. So even in cultures where you see the women are almost fully nude. Except they make sculptures. Yeah.

So what can you say about penis? So penis is like a penis. Why? Because when men become aroused, it's clear. And so it's probably better for society. Like you're with your tribe and you know, your mom's excited. Your butt. Yeah, your with your tribe and, you know, your mom's excited.

Your butt, yeah, your buddy's wife walks in and everybody's like, you're looking at my wife, you know, he was subsequently not attracted, I swear. Yeah, so. Yeah, but you know what's funny, he's like, back then, like when you turn that far back, it's like a sheet, like a sheet. It's like just a banana leaf.

It's like a little banana habit, like that was good as that. You can see that. I think they cover the whole thing, right? Yeah, they, I don't know. A pretty good, Doug, look up modern hunter gatherers, loincloths. Yeah, yeah. Or fixing Doug's Google search again.

He's got, yeah, there are kinds of weird shit on this. No, but that's always covered, always covered. Yeah. And I think the other reason why I know that. I think, yeah, I've never seen, I mean, I don't know, I've never seen National Geographic magazines, they say, we're even as a kid.

They've never showed dudes with their dogs. That part was always definitely covered. And then women almost always covered the bottom as well. And I think it's because we're self-aware enough to- So I would think that would be like a cleanliness thing because you would not want to get anything like dirt and stuff like that in your genitalia. And mites.

Yeah, yeah. To me, those are your reproductive... You don't want to get, you don't want that to be, dirt and stuff like that. You're back to in your genitalia. You're back to in your genitalia. And mites. Yeah, yeah. To me, those are your reproductive... You don't want to get... You don't want that to be... And so I think you would just put the barra minimum to cover it and protect it. That's what the logic I would think behind doing that. I think it'd be less about getting a bone or about your body.

No, I think it's that. I think it's you don't want. Yeah, because it's a visible... I don't think that because back in the days, the tribes used to switch it up and stuff like that. You've read sex and don't have it. They to all the all their theory. Yeah, I mean, that's I mean, I think it's I think it's pretty strong But that's what that's what you know, I think I think it because it's so visible. It's such an obvious Remember when you're going to puberty you imagine you can cover yourself on bear City all time Adam I will see. I don't think that's because of where we're at now

You're gonna be embarrassing if you're I think If you, if you didn't know any better, if everybody in your community was making all the time, so I don't know, maybe we're just going backwards here, you know? Maybe we're getting back to that. Just covering up the bare minimum. What are we doing? I think that's what's gonna happen.

We're gonna go, there's not gonna, there's nowhere else to go as all I'm trying to say. So what's the next to be key to? I mean, is this really like out of the beat, or is this just like a long-draight thing? No, no, you see it. Listen, really like that? Well, I don't know.

I mean, you're not gonna see that. It probably your normal. I mean, you're gonna see that. Thank you for your jam, sure. Oh, thank you. Salty, yeah. Maybe those two please. Hey, look, I'll tell you what, dude.

Let me ask you guys this, okay, we're all 40. We're a little older. Yeah, let's see. When we were kids, did you ever see a G-string thong at the beach? Never. Never. Do you see them now? I see them like when I go to the creek. Yeah. Yeah, when we were kids, did you ever see a G-string thong at the beach? Never, never, never, never. Yeah. Do you see them now? I see them like when I go to the creek.

Yeah. Yeah. So now you see them all over the place. Yeah. What I always find interesting is this is also always the girl too gets mad the guy for like objectifying her to. Or staring or like too long just staring. It's like, it's like, I mean, that's that's the part that I find interesting. I saw this hilarious kind of kind of, I saw this hilarious meme where there was this woman and it was a cartoon.

So she's wearing like a low cut shirt or whatever. And she's like, you know, don't stare at me or whatever. So the guy shows up the next day and he's wearing jeans, but the low cuts, you can see like the neck area or whatever. And you can see the girls trying to look is they don't look at me.

That should be the new trend, dude. Sagging it, you know, just about that far. Never, it'll never be in style, dude. I'm not even promoting that. You're a piece of a boring speedo forever. That's the, that's the, I'll never made it here. Thank God. Didn't it, yeah, did it, didn't it?

Who wears speedo? In the 70s, Doug. I can't speak to that. No, you didn't go through a speedo face? I did not. I feel like you'd be a big speedo? In the 70s, Doug. I can't speak to that. No, you didn't go through a speedo face? I did not. I feel like you'd be a big speedo guy. No, not a big one. Just on occasion.

Like swimmers or notorious for that. Short shorts. I'll do the short, short sometimes. I thought the 70s, I thought speedos were popular. I mean, I think they're made up here. I don't know. Okay, my dad wore speedo to the beach because he grew up in Italy.

Courtney's dad wore speedos and now he's talking to me. I don't think you wouldn't. No. Okay, my dad wore a speedo to the beach because he grew up in ittle. Courtney's dad wore a speedo's and now it's for me. Yeah, I don't think you wouldn't. No, I ain't wearing a fucking speedo. Oh, I think you would be easily convinced. What? I think if I rolled up, why do you roll up at a speedo, I think I could convince you.

If you had a speedo, I'd tell you, I don't think I could convince you. I don't think I could. Oh, you got one, oh, yeah. I could just buy back to the car, dude. Finally. Yeah.

Just so happens to have one of the glove box In the hopper wing You don't find that one to be right now. Darym, you had a... Darym, you had a Darym, you had a Darym. Darym, you had a Darym. Darym, anyways. Did you guys hear about the... Somebody didn't wax.

You're the one, you're the true. You're the one that brought up, Justin, the Georgia, what are they called, guide stones? Stone stones, it was an explosion. BRO. Yeah. Okay, okay, so here's what's weird. So first off, Doug, pull up the Georgia guide stones

and what they sound. Yeah, cause it's... It's weird. Population control on some level and then... It's weird shit. Yeah, weird. It's bizarre. I've heard this stuff.

I've heard there's some good stuff on there and then I've heard there's like, say, TANIC stuff on that stuff. It's all satanic. It's all satanic? Yeah, it's all like what you would consider not like outwardly, but like, you know, control the population. And just like stuff that people would say is satanic, right? Because what the opposite of that is that, you know,

bear be fruitful. People would play. But anyway, there's a bunch of riding on them. It's kind of weird. Nobody knows who made them. Here's what's weird. One of them got his Thanos. One of them exploded.

And there's a video of it. Of it exploding. There's no video of who did it though. No, but there was, I guess, a silver car that was like close by and proximity will happen. And I was reading about it a little bit. And I guess they're trying to claim that it was something to preserve it or like ticket. I'm like, whatever the explanation was, it was total BS.

Well, it made even more like, what they did in the pre-op. It's the person who got the video of it has something to do with it because who would video a bunch of stones that sit still and don't move? It's a security video, but my point is security video. Yeah, my point is did they turn it on when it blew up and it was not on before? Why don't they see who did it? Who's security video? Because it looks like it's security. I don't think bro It's out in the middle of like I don't think it's a security. I think it's a drone shot that somebody yeah No, no, I saw it on Twitter. First off, read what it says on the George Stone. That looks like the prize.

Yeah, there's 10 different points. Number one, maintain humanity under 500 million people in perpetual balance with nature. Two, guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity. Three, unite humanity with a living new language. Four, rule, passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason. Five, protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. This does not sound demonic. It sounds like the old maintenance switch. That's exactly what Satan wants you to find out. Anyway, there's five more of those. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I could read them or not.

But the whole population controlled things is bullshit. We offended dogs with some off. Hey, I was trying to read guys. What are the rest of them? Okay. Sorry. Number six, let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. Seven, avoid petty laws and useless officials. I like that one. Eight, balanced personal rights with social duties. Nine, prize truth, beauty, love, seeking harmony with the infinite.

Ten, be not a cancer on the earth. Leave room for nature, leave room for nature. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, stressing nature. That's a devil right there, man. I know, all that beauty, love, and truth stuff. Yeah, I don't know. God! But, okay, now let's see if we can find the video

if we get, get an exploded. Okay. Weird though, right? Why don't they have a film, like, it's not a security film, Sal. Or else that would be the case. They would have it before. So then all I gotta do is find the person

with the, who wrote, who wrote, who wrote. That's what I'm saying. I think it's a drone that took. So then all I got to do is find the person with the who wrote record. That's what I'm saying. I think it's a drone that took that shot and I am, can we pull the video up? We're speculating so much. Yeah, we are. We totally make it shit up. It's a satellite footage.

It could be that. It looks like it's handheld. I'm trying to make sure we don't have this blast in our TV. You could see the video, Doug. You can actually, I can see it. Yeah. Okay, let us, I want to see what it looks like. It's just a video, but exploding.

I know, but I want to see the angle. It's from so we can speculate if it's a drone or it's a satellite or it's a handicap. Okay, here we go. Oh, shit. It's smoking and everything. We're getting an ad. Great.

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So nutrition coaches, fitness coaches, personal trainers should apply for that. Yeah, well they're crushing, NCI's crushing. They're exploding the amount of trainers and coaches that are going through there. Yeah, what a cool way. Anyway, did you guys see the video where it blew up? Yes, and it does look like a handicap.

It's not a security camera. Is that what it's like? Yeah, it's probably the person who actually did it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying like, okay, because obviously, who is videoing a bunch of rocks that are that just sit there forever.

That's a lame ass video unless you know something's about to go down and then you use it and you set it to go viral. I don't know man. I wonder if this is another one of those sort of publicity stunt things. Like remember those obelisks, those mere obelisks and then it became this movie. Yeah, it was promoting something. So I don't know. That would be where my thoughts would go, because why would you, like, why, what's the

point of blowing it up? I don't understand. All I know is, well, I mean, just someone thinks like, Sal, it's some satanic thing. It could be some right wing nut that thinks he's got to blow it up. Well, it's not, let's say, tangy more like new world order stuff. Like, so it's like the whole, I mean, my point is San, San, though. So if it's new world order or whatever, and then it's some right wing nut that should come over there and blow it up You know, yeah, yeah, I know I know as they turn on the large hydrant collider and then that should blow up

That's it. There's a lot of weird did you guys know There's also a stone in Japan. I want to say that supposedly cursed Because it contains an evil demon, Okay, so it's a stone. It's got writing on it and it contains this evil demon and it by itself, I swear to God, this recently just happened. Is this in that suicide forest? No, no, that's weird too though. Yeah. This stone by itself, which is part of this culture of this particular region, they've known about it for hundreds of years or whatever, like there's a demon in that stone, nobody touch it. It cracked by itself.

Just recently happened. Ooh, that's right. Creepy, true story. Maybe Doug can find it. Japanese demon stone craft. Demon stone. Yeah, so I don't know, man, we should explain that. Doug, we're stuck.

Doug, how are we doing on time? I wanna talk about what's going on in the markets right now. We're about 39 minutes in. Oh, we got time? I wanna talk about, I wanna talk about what's going on in the markets right now. They were about 39 minutes in. Oh, we got time for markets. So did you see what has happened with NFT sales? No. Drop by 75%. Yeah, they're gone, dude.

They are gone. And we also, we haven't talked about it because it happened while we were on vacation, but Bitcoin dipped to its lowest at 17,000, which I think it's hovering around 20 right now. What's the lowest they anticipated going? So the argument, so all the Bitcoin junkies that are still hard up on cryptocurrency that I talked to,

believe that that was the bottom at 17. I don't believe that. I believe we're gonna see under 10. I do too. And I think we're gonna see. So here's the scary thing, if you're a crypto nut and you've been drinking the Kool-Aid for the last few years. I'm crypto Carl, and I...

Is that one of the biggest arguments they used to make was it was a hedge against the dollar. Against inflation? Yes, against inflation. And the dollar, if the dollar were to crash or go down, well, inflation's going up, the dollar's going down right now. And so... Bitcoin should be crushing. Bitcoin should be crushing. It's set to trade and going up, the dollar's going down right now. And so Bitcoin should be crushing. Bitcoin should be crushing.

Instead, it's getting crushed right now. That should raise a lot of concern. It's because they were the utility of cryptocurrency still isn't great. They don't have it yet. Not yet. Isn't not great. There's nothing.

That's what I mean. It's not great except maybe black market shit or whatever of goods. It's all invisible. It's not that great. And black market shit. Transfer of goods, you know, it's all invisible. It's not that great. And it was tons of, look, did you see the chart? There's a chart that I saw when stimulus packages were kicking in,

the amount of money, the amount of growth that crypto went through, because people took their money and spent it. It mirrored the trillions of dollars that we got pumped in the economy. So a bunch of people are like, let's buy crypto, we're gonna make tons of money and then you hear stories about the guy

who made a million dollars. It So a bunch of people are like, let's buy crypto. We're gonna make tons of money and then you hear stories about the guy who made a million dollars or more. It was a complete speculative market, just like, and I love comparing it to .com because one of the things that your crypto junkies get all, like, but heard about when you start to argue with them about it is that the technology of it is going to revolutionize like how we do things. Like they want that so bad, they're gonna just

go that straight. Well, I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I think it's a valid, but. Blockchain is revolutionary. Blockchain will change the way we do things in the future. I 100% agree with that. Do I think there will be cryptocurrency probably too? Yes, I do believe that.

But that is like saying back in the.com era, that you know which one of these companies was gonna, you know, very few people knew that was gonna be Google Namelesson. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, there know, very few people knew that was gonna be Google Namazans gonna be eBay or anything. There was tens of, hundreds of thousands of companies that tried to get started at that time that everybody was throwing money at, thinking they were gonna be the next best thing.

They think that by betting on a specific coin that what they're actually betting on is the crypto technology. It doesn't work that way, okay. It's like saying, it's like saying.com. It's the same thing. It's like money gets at the end. That's the same thing. It's like money gets like, Nescape would be the,

it is like prevailing search engine. It's like you throwing a $100,000 behind dogs.com because somebody bought the URL back in 2000 because you think the internet is gonna change the way that we do business. And guess what, the internet did change. It did. The way we did business and dogs.com did not mean shit

back in 2000. So it's the same concept change. It did. The way we did business and dogs.com did not mean shit back in 2000. So it's the same concept, exact same concept. You betting on these coins that you think are cool or have a cool logo or attach to something. It's like, dude, the likelihood that you are gonna nail Google or Amazon. And then the argument is like, well, Bitcoin is the safest because the first

and it's the most stable. It's like, you don't even know that because my argument to that is. I say it's a logical, I understand the logic and it's the most stable. It's like, you don't even know that because my argument to that is a logical. That's a, I understand the logic behind it, but still the odds. I still argue that. Here's how I'll argue that. Okay. And I told you guys this off air the other day when we were talking about cryptocurrency is,

look at companies like Facebook, Google and Amazon, which control more, more traffic in people than any other companies. Okay, any other companies, okay? Yep. And they also have, most of them have some sort of goods and services or anything that they provide or sell. What is to stop them, which companies do this all the time for taking a loss to get more people

and to release their coin? So example, what I mean by that. Okay. Duracell batteries and whatever is really popular and they are sold on Amazon, but then Amazon has their brand of batteries or whatever on there too. And they have the power to undercut those companies. They can literally put them out of business if they really, if that was their desired outcome. What is the stop? Amazon from not creating its own coin and it has more power in Amazon store than Bitcoin does. And then it makes Bitcoin obsolete. Facebook. I mean, it really does. And then what is Facebook? Why Facebook could do the same thing and so could Google. And so

who knows that may or may not have, but my point is that that's what makes even Bitcoin. Here's what's going happen, I think. I don't think any government is going, they're all controlled by the Fed anyway, and I don't think any government is gonna allow any currency to compete with the Fed currency. So, the, you know what, cryptocurrency is gonna come out, that's gonna last and grow.

A federally, a Fed, not federal, because the Fed is not federal, by the way, since federal is federal express. But the Fed, the central bank will release its own cryptocurrency. That's right, and that's the one. And the reason why, you know, have all the backing of the US military.

100% agree with that, and the reason why Bitcoin, it being the first and so popular right now, is what I, if you go back far enough in this podcast, you can hear me being the one who was pushing about cryptocurrency the most. And it was because of the black market. The black market adopted crypto adopted Bitcoin first. And that is what is, it's being used the most

where it has the most utility is in the black market. That's right. And that might not go away until, and that may, this is why if you got Monday through a way and you wanna put together like an emergency, you know, your earthquake kit or whatever, you wanna call it, you probably wanna own a little Bitcoin because if shit hits the fan

and you need to get something on the black market, let's say they make things illegal that you might need or whatever, well there you go, other than that, I don't see any. But that is what is kept at a float for this long. And then to your point about all of a sudden, trillions of dollars gets pumped into the economy. Now, everybody has this money to gamble with.

And all the rest of those bets were all speculative. All the rest of that money that gets pumped into there that drove it up like crazy are all people that aren't buying it because it has some great utility or they think it's a future. We're going to say they are all trying to buy it so they can flip it and sell it. We're going to see a huge, we're going to see such a nasty crash with this kind of stuff because it was unregulated. That's that quick. That was the red flags from me from the get-go. It was like how many millionaires were coming out of nowhere for doing barely anything.

Well, I mean, it was all speculation. And I think it's not regulated. A lot of people got ripped off. A lot of people lied to. A lot of these places that hold your coin or whatever, insolvent. And, or they don't even own it. They can't even give it to you if they wanted to.

You know what I thought was an interesting point that David Freiburg made from all-in podcasts. I thought was interesting, because they all went around and they were talking their points about cryptocurrency and everything where it's at. And he's like, you know, I'm, you know, just an observer, I'm not an investor,

anything like that. He's all but the one thing that I find the most ironic, I'm not an investor, he's all but the one thing that I find the most ironic about it is that it's supposed to be this thing that's going to replace money yet we constantly measure and talk about it in dollars. So if it's supposed to be this thing that has this crazy utility, that's going to replace it,

then why the hell do we even compare it to the US dollar? Because the US dollar still has way more weight. The feds are gonna come out with their own cryptocurrency at some point, and that'll be the one. That'll be the one that uses 100% of good. What are they gonna call it? Fedcoin? They'll have some indivisible coins.

Good brothers, some acronym that we don't find. It's a fair on. Yes. Yeah. It's a strange idea. You're devil tokens. Devil tokens. Devil tokens. Hey guys,, you're devil tokens. Devil tokens. Hey guys, go get your devil tokens.

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All right, here comes the show. Our first caller is Levi from Pennsylvania. Levi, what's happening, man? How can we help you? Hey, guys, thanks for having me. First, you guys are awesome. I listen to you as often as I possibly can, but even whenever I'm feeling like unmotivated

and not feeling the gym that day, it's pop on podcast and you guys give me where I need to be. It's truly awesome. It really is. But I have, I've been following a diet from another company, sorry, but I found you guys on the podcast and I've since switched over to the Annabolic program. And I was reading through the diet,

the little diet guide that you guys included was like the beginner, whatever one I bought. And it seems like there's like conflicting information and I feel like I'm actually slowing my metabolism down by what I'm doing. So I have like 1900 or some sorry, 2200 calories a day with like 150 grams of protein and Based on some of the stuff that I've been reading and your 30 days of advice that I found on your website

It seems like maybe I should be Not sticking so strictly to specifically that and kind of fluctuating the intake to keep my, I guess my metabolism tricked. And really all I need to do, all I'm trying to do is I have like a little bit of a beer gut on. That's really all I want to give it up and just kind of flatten it out and get in just more like summer body, right? Like I'm just trying to turn things up a little bit, lose the beer gut and kind of just gain a little bit of arm mass. Like I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder. I just try, it's really hard to figure out like where to go, right?

Because there's so much, everything I Google, everything I research, there's a different answer. There's a hundred different answers. So just maybe like reverse dieting, like I don't know, what do you guys think? Yeah, I see you asked all that in your question. I'm reading it right now. It says, do you have a guy on reverse diet we do? So we can do that.

We can help you there. And I mean, you're not in a bad place calorie wise, although I would like you a little bit higher before I started to restrict calories from you. It sounds, I mean, how long have you been following the 2200 calories, 150 grams, how long have you been consistent with this? Probably four months. Oh, wow. And little to no change in your waist.

I mean, I'm losing weight, but I feel like I'm losing it in places I don't want to, right? Like my legs look scrawnier than they were. Like, like, I am like face and a neck, like, all that, I mean, I get that the stomach is like the last place to that goes. And maybe that's what it is. And the other thing is that I don't care if I end up at 225 pounds, right? I'm not shooting for a weight. I don't even weigh myself regularly. I mean, I do, but not every day. And I don't get a wound up, but my couple pounds up or whatever. I really just want the look that I'm going for. I don't care what I end

up with. There's a couple things I want to address, Levi. One is the conflicting information you find on Google. You came to the right place. We're about to give the answers to your question, so you don't have to go back to Google and read a bunch of conflicting stuff. So let's just consider what we're going to say now. And let's just go with this and trust it. Number two, you said you don't want to look like a bodybuilder. Don't worry you won't, but you should still try to. Okay, you should still try to because the more muscle you build on your frame, the better it is going to be for fat loss. And there's two ways you could deal with excess body fat. One way is to just try to lose the body fat.

And the other way is to build muscle to the point where that body fat percentage goes down naturally because your weight goes up because your lean body mass goes up. Now those are two extremes. Somewhere in the middle is usually what works best for people. As far as the diet is concerned, it is better to fluctuate mostly psychologically.

It's kind of a pain in the butt. It's not very realistic to always eat the same exact thing every single day. But we do see in studies that when people, if let's say they're on a bulk and they interrupt it with a cut or if somebody's on a cut and they interrupt it with a short bulk, they tend to get better results. And it's not tricking your metabolism. It's just, it's just your metabolism is adapting to your lifestyle. If you eat the same amount of calories every single day, your body very quickly is going to adapt to that and learn how to just burn that many calories

to keep you up maintenance. So what I think you should do with your 2,200 calories a day is I think you should go on a small surplus, maybe go up to maybe 2,300 calories, 2,400 calories. Do that for a little while. Build muscle, build strength, slowly reverse yourself to the point where you get a decent amount of calories, so that 2200 calories

then becomes an effective cut again, okay? So you might wanna wait until you get your calories up to like 26, 2700 calories with more muscle, with more strength, and then from there you can cut, and then the 2200 calorie cut shouldn't be ideally, not every single day that way, but some days 1900 calories, some days 24, 2500 calories, ultimately leading to a general,

2200 calorie average on a daily basis. So if you do the math over the week, you'll see that you're averaging about 2200 calories, but some days are higher, some days are lower. So I hope that makes sense. How far are we in into Annabelle right now? How far are you in? So that's the other thing is it's summertime and I go camping a lot with my

family and I can't always make it to the gym. I try to do my best to add minimum, get the foundational exercise with the the straps. I'm pretty good at that, but I haven't been doing it. Like to the tee for probably a month. So are you getting, are you, are you getting at least three days of the foundational workouts, the main workouts a week, or are you even missing that? I would say I miss it more often than I get it.

Oh, step one, do that. Oh, okay. Well, then, I mean, yeah, that's the biggest key here, it sounds like two, by the way, you made the case that you're losing weight and you're probably leaning out a little because you're keeping your calories low. And there is this like little psychological thing that happens when you're that.

When you're in a calorie restriction and it seems like you're losing weight, but then you're not, like your arms don't look as big, you feel like your legs are scrawny. A lot of that's because you're depleted. You're on it because you're low calorie right now, so you get to look. And this is a normal phenomenon that you go through when you're in a cut. So that's kind of a normal feel. But if you really want to accelerate your results, like being consistent with the lifting, adding the calories like what what's out saying to

where you actually speed your metabolism up a little bit build a little bit of muscle and then go back to that cut again still being consistent. That's what's going to change change this more than anything else. Yeah, and I mean you mentioned that you know your face your neck and in other places of your body or you notice a substantial change there like so that's I mean that's how it works for me, even like that's just like it's going to take a while before to get down to the stomach. I mean, for the most part, you just got to stick to the course and really focus a little bit more on muscle development. And that's really going to help in terms of like your feeling confident with what's going on. Especially when you haven't been very consistent. I mean, the fact that you're, you even have getting some of the positive results and feedback you're getting while being inconsistent

is a really positive thing. Yeah, if you gained just five pounds of muscle without gaining a single pound of body fat, you now are essentially leaner in terms of body fat percentage because you have more lean body mass and your fat mass has stayed the same. Versus trying to lose a couple pounds of body fat while preserving your muscle,

which might be a little bit more challenging. I honestly think if you just consistent with the strength training and you bump your calories up to like 23, 2400 calories, which isn't a huge bump, but it's enough to fuel some new muscle with the consistent strength training. I think if you do that for a couple months, I think it'll be very happy with your results.

I think if you give yourself a real dedicated month, you'll see a difference. Yeah. I mean, follow Antibolic to a teeth. I mean, make that a goal for yourself. Follow Antibolic to a teeth for one month, take your calories up, 200 calories, or so, like Sal saying, and I just, you know, get back to me. Get some size on those arms and chest, man. It'll help a lot. Yeah, you'll hold, you know, stomach issue. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, you got that. you know, stomach issue. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, you got that.

So you got MAP Santa Ballock, so you're set there. You have the intuitive nutrition guide. Is that the one that you have? No, reverse, similar to the reverse diet. Oh, the reverse diet guide. Yeah, similar to reverse diet guide. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, I do have the intuitive one.

All right, well, we'll send you the reverse diet guide, so you have a little bit more specifics in terms of how to take your calories up higher while you're building. Okay. And then just stay in touch with us. Let us know as your progress as you go through this, because I think if you are just consistent with anabolic at the calories, I think you're going to see a difference. Totally. Totally. Okay.

Cool. All right. Thanks for calling in, Leone. Thanks for sharing it. No problem. The funniest phrase I will ever hear from from somebody is I don't want to look like a bodybuilder It's happening to my Disrespectful That's so much fucking hard that was

Hey guys, listen, there's a reason why I don't anymore It's hard. I want to I want to play some basketball today I'm not trying to become Steph Curry, okay? So just everybody calm down. Don't wanna play too much. I don't want to be a pro all of a sudden. Not gonna happen, bro, but aim for that. You get better results if you aim for that anyway.

No, I mean, I get what people mean though. He's trying to describe his goal. Yeah, my goal isn't to get that crazy. He's not trying to go all extreme, but your point is true though. Like both, both men and women, even if your goal was not to look like a bodybuilder, it's a very good goal to aim for. Because you end up with what you want. Yeah, because you're gonna look sculpted and strong.

Yeah, yeah, it's really easy to stop. It's really easy to stop. No, harder to hit. He's like doing crows whoa I said I've never had a client come to me a day after working out like you're fired I told you I got a body cold you fuck me up doesn't work that way no but you know if you just bill if you just focused on building and being

consistent I think people would be blown away it's like this is happening to me right now. We were on vacation. I ate very low calories on vacation, typically. And I usually lose a little bit of weight. Right now, I'm bumping my calories up. You know what ends up happening? I look a leaner. I look a leaner because the muscle's coming up

and the body fat's staying the same, which means my body fat percentage is now a smaller percentage of my overall body. Well, I also think that what this highlights, and clients were like this for sure. People really overestimate the, I also think that with this highlights and clients were like this for sure, people really really overestimate how the results should come. Yeah, it's such a slow process, it really is.

And he's getting results. I think that's what you know, he wasn't really identifying that that's results. Like, if you're getting like, you're losing body fat in other your body. Yeah, it's inevitable. It's gonna get there It's just you gotta keep putting the work in the face. Especially if you're being that inconsistent. Yeah If you can tell me that you're missing more days than you're making and yet you're still seeing some positive results You're doing that pretty damn you're actually lucky as fuck It takes a lot of consistency on both diet and training to actually see little incremental results We go over. Yeah, even if he doesn't reverse diet if he just left the consistently he would see

Yeah, right. That'll be good. He just needs somebody to tell him that I think sometimes you just need that totally. Yeah Our next caller is Eric from Ohio Eric. What's happening man? How can we help you? Yeah, I was going Just the typical line start. Thank you for all the information you guys give. A little background to start the question. I've only been listening for one and a half months, but I listen all day so I'm already about a little over a hundred episodes through. But yeah, I listen pretty much all day so I'm already about a little over a hundred episodes through but Yeah, I listen pretty much all day at work

but a little more information so I'm an avid Lister I've gotten Pretty big a couple times, but then something happens I've had two surgeries and like a depressive state that makes me restart over after I'm down for around six months. So I enjoy the thing I'm going to the gym.

My main hobby is volleyball, though. I play anywhere from three to five days a week, year round indoor sand. Is there any like workout and diet issue found help keep my very club? I know you guys have heard this a lot, but I think there's certain times where I get too big for volleyball. And I don't know if I've heard heavy lifting slows fast twitch muscles and nerves. Is that an actual thing? No, no. Heavy lifting does the opposite. It speeds up. It builds fast twitch muscle fast cardio. Now, plyometrics is going to be your best bet to be able to express the speed with your muscle contraction. So I would do a little bit, 10 minutes of plios at the beginning of your workout. Heavy lifting isn't going to

impede your vertical. Now getting too heavy might. Well, I'm just going to say, his question is not building his vertical. It's just not losing his vertical. That's a bodyweight thing. Yes, it's both. I mean, my medical as well. That would be great to get in. Well, it's a strength to weight ratio thing. Okay. So if you're if you're strong and light, you're going to have a better vertical than if you're strong and heavy. Right. So that's a diet. That's more of a diet thing than anything else. When I you know, when I work with athletes or when I talk to athletes, I should say, I could I tell them, look, train to get strong and big. but if you want to maintain your body weight,

that's a diet thing. So if I'm talking to a wrestler, for example, has to make weight, your goal is to be as strong and muscular as possible at your current body weight. I mean, you're going to be lean, right? So body fat does nothing to help you with your vertical, or very little, I should say. You need some body fat for health, but if you're carrying an extra and additional, let's say, 15 pounds of body fat, and let's say we lost that 15 pounds of body fat and gained it in muscle, you're going to be far more athletic. So the goal would be then to build muscle and be lean at the same time. And in terms of strength training, heavy weight training, totally fine, plyometrics.

I would incorporate plyometrics 10 to 15 minutes at the beginning of workouts to really bring that strength, that grinding strength to keep that of a fast progression. That's the point. And we do this with a lot of our programs in terms of frequency training. So frequency builder, so there's trigger sessions in maps in a ball egg. There's mobility sessions in performance. See, there's focus sessions in the static. And what you're talking about is a skill. And that skill is something that you need to maintain throughout your training while you're

strength training as well. So if yes, you know, there's going to be a little bit of reprioritization in terms of like your body's now adjusting to this specific adaptation goal, which is building this foundational overall strength, which you do need as an athlete. You need to be able to express that, you need to be able to generate more power and force. And so that's something that you need to incorporate,

but simultaneous to that, you do need to maintain the skill of vertical jump. So I would have that something as a priority in your active recovery day, where you're really applying the skill of vertical jump and making sure that you have that kind of stability support with your joints, and you're able to generate that kind of fast switch response. And so applying some kind of plyometrics through that on the days in between, I would highly suggest. Yeah, very well said. I would, I'll be even more specific.

I would actually follow our Maps cardio program everywhere where we've programmed you to do cardio that I would use that as your days of playing volleyball and or doing skills training that you just was talking about. If you want specific exercises that are going to help your vertical, I think Paul Favrets, PGAF performance is one of the best in the industry. I think he has a program called Vertical Code and it has all

kinds of skills training for your vert in there. You could kind of combine both of our programs. I would take the skills training for the vertical from him and then I would apply it to our cardio program anywhere where cardio is programmed in that program You're doing either skills training or playing volleyball. Eric have you ever done play out metrics before? Yeah, okay, not a ton of it. I've done before getting the RGB bundle like two weeks ago. I was by doing dot com. They have an app and they give you workouts on what you're trying to do and some of them that I have done had lifting and pliode together. Okay. Well, okay. So just to be clear with plios, oftentimes, I'm not familiar with the

Bodybuilding.com program, but oftentimes the way that they program plyos is not, they're not plyometric, they're just making you jump and move to fatigue. So when you do your plyos, don't think I'm gonna get a workout, don't think I'm gonna sweat. Your goal is to explode and jump as high as you can, rest until you feel fully recovered and then do it again. You should not do it to fatigue.

The second you do it to fatigue, now it becomes cardiovascular training. Which is bad habits. Yeah, which is, it's fine if you want more cardio, but if you're trying to get a higher vertical, you have to be able to practice it with maximal strength and power, which means you do one, so you jump in place as high as you can, and then you wait until you fully recover it

and then do it again. And you're looking at maybe six reps of this, resting three minutes and then repeating it. That's what apply is, it's not jumping a bunch of times or jumping at the end of a circuit or whatever the way a lot of people do it. Are you familiar with Paul?

The guy I referred to? No, I have not heard of that one. Oh, okay. You need to be the best in the business. Go to PGAF performance as his Instagram. I mean, and just go down the rabbit hole, dude. His Instagram feed is full of great. I think he's the best in the business. Go to PGAF performances as Instagram. I mean, and just go down the rabbit hole, dude. His Instagram feed is full of great. I think he's the best in the business when it comes to teaching plometrics for vertical. And he'll, and he has examples all up and down for free on his Instagram of exercises that you could literally take. And it's there

the care he's specifically speaking to basketball, but the carryover to volleyball is very, very similar. So those movements will benefit you the same way that it will benefit a basketball player. Go down the rabbit hole, look at his Instagram and check out all the stuff that he has on his own kinds of incredible drills that I think you can pluck from there and build it. And I didn't know you had our RGB.

So you could follow like a map's performance and then build it in there, I think. Okay. All right, man. I was just gonna say one, I feel, so the lifting I've done before, my arm swing when hitting, I feel when I'm getting close to my peak of, I don't know if that's mobility or just too big, I think it's probably lack of mobility,

I feel like it gets slower. Yeah, I'm not hitting as hard. You okay, so think it's probably lack of mobility. I still like, it gets slower. I'm not hitting those areas. You okay, so think of it this way, right? So let's say you gain an inch on your arms, okay, which is a lot, right? You just built a ton of muscle in your arms. You're now swinging a different arm and it requires different movement patterns

that you're not used to. So it's like when you watch a, if you ever watch a dog in the first six months of their life or nine months, they grow real fast in the clumsy, because they're not used to their body. So what you need to do is you need to practice the skills of volleyball way more than you lift weights.

So that the skills match the new size that you've built. Otherwise, what's going to happen is exactly what you said. You'll get bigger, you'll go try to do something that you did so well before and it's gonna feel awkward. That's what's happening. You're feeling very awkward with the way you're moving it. So you need to spend way more time playing volleyball than you do lifting weights if that's your priority

and practicing the skills that you're talking about. Well, and to add on to what you're saying, so that means you actually should potentially modify even our programs, right? So if we, and most of the programs you have right now have three foundational days, if volleyball is really a priority, you probably only need to be doing the one or two

of those foundational days. Max, he's doing three to five days of volleyball, it says. Yeah, so you only need to be lifting one to two days. Here's the mistake that a lot of guys are like you make and what Sal's alluding to is that you're trying to get all big and buff and you're trying to be lifting one to two days a week. Here's the mistake that a lot of guys are like, you make and what Sal's alluding to is that you, you're trying to get all big and buff and you're trying to play your sport and what ends up happening is you're lifting in the gym

almost as much as you're competing goals. Yeah, they're competing. And then that was, and add in the fact that you're in a calorie surplus and you start to add weight, it totally hinders your volleyball. So if volleyball is this much of a priority where you're playing three to five times a week, you should only be lifting one to two days max in the gym. And so take one of our programs, follow, follow one of the foundational days and then stick to your volleyball. And believe it or

not, that's enough. You'll build muscle. You'll lean out too, which is great, which will only support your vertical and your volleyball play. So say I have like a slow week or in between sessions of volleyball that sometimes there's like one or two weeks between sessions, that amount of lifting won't like stop. If I like during that time I'm lifting like four days a week, three days a week. Yeah, well what I would do, if I was you, and I was serious about volleyball, and there's two weeks where there's only one or two games happening per week, I would still go to a court,

and I would practice my serves, I would practice, you know, hitting over the net, I would practice my verticals. Now, if my goals were physique, then I would lift more on those days, so it's up to you. But if it's volleyball, then what you should do instead of lifting more is you go and you practice the skills of volleyball. Sorry, one of those. I mean, that's the way it is.

But you just, you have to know that something has to give, right? So whichever one you're going to lean into more, you're going to compromise the other one a little bit. That's just part of life. Like, that's why bodybuilders aren't great volleyball players. You know, what that's why most volleyball players aren't great bodybuilders. You know, there's just, they're, they're, they're conflict. It doesn't mean you can't be a jacked volleyball player. You can be a jacked volleyball player who's fit and looks good, but you're not going to be the me. Yeah. Yeah. So you're, you're going to have to kind of blend that a little bit.

So maybe the middle ground is on those two week gaps is not four days a week alifting. Maybe it's now you go to two days, or three days a lifting, and then you do more of the vertical speed and plyometric work we're talking about. Dialling your nutrition, man, if your goal is physique, like that's, and you're trying to do that with your athletic pursuits.

Yeah, lean out. Really, now. If you've got any kind of muscle mass on your body and you just get lean, you'll feel like you look way bigger, especially when you take your shirt off. Exactly. It's the illusion, right? So I hate the whole count calories and macros and all that, but yeah, I got a buddy who hates working, but it wants to be rich.

You got to do it. You got to to be rich but you got to do it. You got to do it. All right, thanks man. Thanks for calling in Eric. Appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, one at all. Yeah, then you get faced with the reality.

You can't have it all. Especially these these physique pursuits. It's like, you know, like you can't remove all of that that goes along with this. I do think athletes need to understand, because there's a lot of young athletes that, of course you wanna look a particular way, but then you wanna perform well. And if you gain a bunch,

and this is where the whole muscle bound myth came from. It's like, yeah, yeah. If you stop playing your sport, and then you gain 15 pounds of muscle, yeah, you're bigger and stronger, but now you're moving in a new body. I'm still fighting coaches over this. This wasn't a thing 20 years ago. We highlight these anomalies, Doug Pullup, Reggie Bush,

cover of Maxi. Yeah, it looks like a freaking amateur bodybuilder. Yeah, and he's just a freak of nature and he's this running back. And you're just like, see, you can't play football. It's like the most ridiculously genetically gifted. But we put them on covers of magazines that kids subscribe to when they look at. And then we have Instagram where these guys only put

their best pictures up. And then you get this distorted idea of athletes are jacked and looked this way. And it's like, no, this person is a total anomaly. And most people that are great at their sport or just great at their sport, they don't look like Kenny. Yeah, look at me. Yeah, right.

Hey, I try as hard as I can to get ripped and big. And I do not like, like, like that guy. Yeah. He runs, you know, it's funny when it comes to like fighting, especially too. I'm always, I'm always betting on the guy that that doesn't look as good. Yeah.

Yeah. That's fucking serious. Hey, hey, I mean, it just happened. I'm gonna counter that. You're less used. I'm gonna counter that though. Looking, looking Jack keeps you out of fights. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I disagree with that.

I disagree with that. I can. I don't know, dude, when you're when you're you got a big mouth. That's what I do. I do. When you're a big. I don't don't blame it. I'll be Jack. When you when you when you're when you're a big mouth. That's what When you're a big I don't blame it on big jack When you when you when you're jacked and you walk in okay sure

There's there's a percentage of people that are like bro you exude extreme cockiness. That's why it's not cuz you're jack bro That's cuz when you walk in everybody feels at dude this fucking guy is dude. What's he so come every but there's always a guy trying to size you up Bro, I think a guy who is, dude. What's he so confident? Everybody, there's always a guy trying to size you up, bro. Always. He'd always be size. There's half the group that goes, I don't want to put that there. There's a couple guys who's like, I want to test that.

Yeah, yeah. No. Yeah, what's your, but I mean, we got to keep making this point with athletes. It's like the skill of your sport is the most important thing that you practice. I remember as a kid doing judo. I was young, I was 15 doing judo.

I took a summer off and I was, this one I really was squatting and deadlifting. I gained like 15 pounds of lean body mass. Went back to judo thinking I was gonna crush everybody. And I felt awkward because I was different. My body was moving the same. This is a very common thing I think that your young athletes and their early to mid-20s

go, I went through this. I struggled with, I loved basketball. I love basketball so much. I played every day. Every day I played at least an hour or more of basketball, every day, and on weekends, three hours. I love the sport, but I wanted to be jacked so bad. And I couldn't figure out for the life of me why I couldn't do that.

I just, I couldn't possibly eat enough calories and let my body recover enough to build the muscle. And as soon as I cut back on basketball, I started to put size on it. And then it came down to that, like, well, how bad do I want to be the jack guy? And I realized that it doesn't mean I have to quit basketball all together.

It just means that it cannot be that high of a priority in my life. It's kind of like, yeah, just kind of look at it. Just like we've talked about this before, like your video game character avatar, right? Like you have your different skill attributes. Yeah, and you give you a hundred point from one Yeah, you can increase the other but you can't do both. Yeah, you don't have all the power You don't have the genie code to basically keep it up

And this is why they think they can do both because there's there's these anomalies that are highlighted That's literally the point zero01% of the world. Yeah, but they see that and they think, well, he's done it. Why can't I do it? And it's just like, Dom, and I wish there was a Konami code for life, all right? You can all love your eyes.

Up, up, down, down, left, right? Oh, strong, smart. I keep my hair too. Let's hand some. I got perfect kids. My wife lets me go out with my friends. No, no back in here. Anything good. Our next caller is Tyler from California. I got perfect kids my wife lets me go out my friends Our next caller is Tyler from California. What's up Tyler? How can we help you?

What's up guys? How are you doing good man? Good dude? Appreciate you all the content you guys put out. I'm a trainer San Diego. Listen you guys for about three years now So good deal love San Diego. San Diego. What a great town, man. Love that place. Yeah, great weekend for the joy. Yeah, definitely. So my question on top of it is, I always hear about the, like I did your guys' anabolic, because I like to every once in a while try different programs and get myself out of my scent.

Like you guys always say, you know, similar exercise used to have creatures to have it. But my question was when is it or could you elaborate on when it's superior or appropriate train in one rep range solely for the amount of time. Let's say like three to four weeks like when you're a periodization or switching the style every workout where you're hitting every rep range each workout consistently. consistently, starting with your big left and then progressing through the workout and do a hypertrophy range and then more of a

endurance finish range. Because I always find myself going back and forth with this with clients, especially those two days a week, three days a week, women or men, but I always go back and forth with it. And then I try to end a ball like and I saw how it was the linear. And then I see research all the time with daily, in the visualization periodization.

So I was just hoping you guys can be elaborate on that. Tyler, okay, it's a good question. Let me ask you, how long have you been a trainer? Since July of 2020. Okay, so a couple of years. What percentage of your success with your clients would you say psychological, in other words, working with your clients, mental states, ecological states,

versus just the mechanistic aspects of the workout and diet. Like, would you say it's more mental, or would you say it's just a follow the color and the numbers? As far as like my success with them? Yeah. Yeah, like how much I think it's,

I think it's definitely a 50-50, I think I'm really good at also having that understanding because my biggest thing was, you know, I can't program a certain, you know, if it's a heavy squad day and they come in and I start talking to them and can't idea about how that's feeling or they didn't eat. You got it. I can't. You know, I don't want to just you go do it. No, you got 100% and you're an early trainer, but you've already figured that out, which is really good. So here's my second question. The mental state and the feel required for sets of one or two reps versus sets of eight to 12 reps, is it different or is it the same?

Drastically different. Drastically different. So this is the main reason why we like people training in blocks rather than switching up every workout, mainly especially with clients. Now if you're super experienced and you can switch your mental state and the feel of how you train or whatever very quickly, which if you're experienced, and you can switch your mental state and the feel of how you train or whatever very quickly, which if you're experienced, you can probably do that. That's fine.

But for most people, when I would train clients in one rep range, it would take me a week before they'd really figure out how to get that rep, how to really get in that position, how to focus. So I like to train them for three weeks in that same rep range. Not mix it up all the time, because it's a very different feel.

So that's the main reason why we do it that way. I also like to, I mean, cause to Sal's point is, and now what I was gonna ask you was, is this for you or is this for your client because the answer is different. Like if you're an advanced lifter and you've been a trainer to Sal's point,

you totally can mix this up every day. You have the skill sets, you already understand the benefits of lifting heavy, of doing higher rep, lower rep. You're not going to, you know better than the neglect one, you're smart enough to follow a program even though you're a trainer, like you could, you could go play with that. I do that all the time. I don't technically follow our training blocks the way we write them all the time because

I have the skill sets to weave in and out and I like to sometimes, but I would always keep a client in these blocks because of the teaching purpose. Like I like when I'm training in a phase where there'd be an eight to 12 rep phase or in a, you know, or a strength phase where I'm training three to five, I like to be able to coach to the adaptation we're focused on. For the next three weeks, Susie, we're focused on strength. You know, notice that you feel this, you notice that like, Hey, this is how I want your breathing. This is the way I want your mindset when you're lifting.

And we're being consistent every time she comes in versus, in a workout, she's got all these different rep ranges. And one day we're training one way, the next day we're switching it up, really hard for her to grasp. What is really working for her body? Is it like the plyometric stuff that he taught me yesterday or is it the strength training block that he just did tomorrow and like you know

So she's not she's not able to make that connection yet because she didn't have your type of experience Even though all the research shows that it's pretty even right if you were to be somebody who Changed it up every single day versus somebody who's who ran in a phase for three weeks We know that what the research says it's pretty similar It maybe gets edged out a little bit by switching it up. But the problem with that, it's hard to coach and educate somebody on what they're focusing on when you're constantly changing their routine up. Yeah, and it's a different feel, man.

When I'm training myself for a workout where I'm doing sets of three reps, it's very different mentally than when I'm doing workouts where I'm doing sets of three reps, it's very different mentally than when I'm doing workouts where I'm doing 10 to 15 reps. It's focused different on the body, I'm more focused on the movement, summoning my strength differently. Versus when I'm on the tempo. Yeah, but versus when I'm 10 to 15 reps,

I'm focusing on the contraction, the muscle, on the stretch, and the pump. It's very different. And that mental state is something that has to be trained and you have to know how to get into it. And most clients takes you two or three workouts before they're like, oh, I got this. I know how this works.

So it doesn't make sense to do Monday's workout, you know, two to three reps, and then Thursday you come back and we're doing 15 reps. Like the person just isn't that effective at teaching that client the difference between those two different training styles. So training blocks work better than the Adam's point. You really figure out your body.

Like, how am I gonna know which style of training causes more joint pain over three or four weeks? Or which style of training my body likes better? You know, that kind of stuff. If I'm always mixing it up, right? It's just more tangible metrics to go back on. It's really hard to tease that out when you're experimenting with a lot of different

adaptations at once. So to be able to just have them simplify it. And I think that, I don't know, as a new trainer, I think we're directed a lot more in the experience of it and trying to cater to the client's expectation coming in versus really sort of guiding and directing the simplicity of what really works. And so it's tempting.

It's tempting to make it this crazy fun, engaging, like I did all this crazy shit today with you versus like you know like the you know the meat potatoes of like really getting to to the heart of like getting them successful. Tyler do you have at risk of in raging Adam? Do you have a map maps prime prime prime? My guy my guy you know it's funny. I played I did a lot of I kind kind of have a little bit more of Justin's back kind of, I definitely do want to football and sports a lot. I came from that kind of background, so I know that I get

the mobility, I get the, especially when I heard him go off from that one first time, so I kind of want to definitely. I wonder if people lie about, too. I got it. You know, you can get that every time someone comes on and you need a bunch of stuff. No, good deal. I hope it. You know, you can get that every time someone comes on. I hope we answered your question. I hope that gave you some clarification there. Yeah, I just I always break it down

because I found especially with women, it was really hard for them to consistently be eating to where they are be able to do a heavy workout the entire duration of the meal for an hour. So I always was splitting it up to maybe like this month, we're gonna focus just on your squat strength and your whole red press strength. And those are our focuses. I got that program, and then after that, I have no impactors in trying to train,

and that's more intuitive based on how the workout's going to at least some programming. You go on the skill of the actual compound lifts, like in your teasing out like one to two lifts, you're really focusing on those. I love that, but I'm gonna help you communicate this to clients. Okay, so clients could care less about what you're doing unless you connect some kind of result

that they're gonna get from it. So I could say to them, hey, this month we're gonna focus on getting your squat strength way up. Okay, what does that mean to the average person? It means nothing. So what I would say is, now here's what you can expect from that. You're probably going to get a rounder but you're probably going to get some more lower back development. I think your

metabolism is going to speed up as well. We'll probably find that you're burning about 50 to 100 more calories a day, which means you can eat more and maintain the same body fat or eat the same and get leaner. So that's what's going to come about from getting your squat stronger. You have to attach the results or what they get out of what you're doing because they're not trainers. People, you know, oh yeah, I like to get stronger and squat. Okay, what does that mean? Here's what it means for you, Mrs. Johnson.

So make sure you communicate it that way because it'll make all the difference in the world for them to comply. Otherwise, they're gonna ask you questions like, okay, well, yeah, okay, my squat went up, but I still want to develop my butt, right? And then you gotta explain, oh, well, yeah, okay, my squat went up, but I still want to develop my butt, right? And then you gotta explain, oh, well, this is gonna help develop your butt. So present it that way, it'll be way more effective

and you'll get your clients to comply much more effectively that way. Cool. Appreciate it. All right, brother. Thanks for calling it. Thanks for having me on. You got it.

I like that kid. Yeah, me too. I mean, that early on question. Yeah, I mean, two years. This is a good question. I think, and I very thought provoking at that early on in his career. And what he was doing is not bad. No.

After he explained kind of how he programs, like, I mean, he's definitely heading down the right path for sure. Yeah, a lot of people, I mean, for people who are trainers to get this, but people who are thinking about being a trainer, a lot of what you do is Consideration of your client how they're gonna

Comply are they gonna enjoy it? Is this something that they want to do? Is this gonna work for them like you could have the best routine of the world on paper But if the client doesn't like it either you learn to get them to like it or you got to change it and that's just the reality Because at the end of the day, it's all about consistency and about getting people to follow through. That's about on one. Our next caller is Trevor from Wisconsin.

Trevor, what's happening, man? Hey, how are you guys? Good, how can we help you? Good, that a question, my general question is on supplementation. And one of the things I've been struggling with, just for some background is, I'm 31, I'm a dad. I've been listening to you guys for years

and I've been doing the fundamentals. I prioritize protein and I keep up on whole foods diet. Very focused on string-trained water, sleep the best I can. I've a pretty stressful job. And all around, I feel like I'm kind of captured the fundamentals through my course of the past couple years. I've been at my highest about 280 pounds, about 230 right now, 235. I've been planning to increase my metabolism

with my exercise and my wife has made comments recently about, you know, you're trying to gain weight, which are closer to the better. You're looking better. And so I think the trade-off, some start in the sea have been quite beneficial where I've been kind of targeting to get further up metabolically and more muscle mass. And one of the things that kind of sticks out my head all the time is I listen to the program is all the amazing plethora of partners and supplementation that you guys work with. And I've been thinking about, you know, am I missing something with maybe some general

supplements, some performance supplements, are there things that are health, wellness, vitality, and that category that I could use to benefit. And then should I just go into the world with a general understanding of how I feel, or should I practice trying something seen out at works and then shifting them there, or should I look towards the more targeted approach that seems to be more prevalent in the market, where you guys are pushing to,

but we get certain tests, and then have the tests in the analysis to then make better decisions when supplementing, and it's just a huge market, a huge category that I'm not sure how to navigate. I currently just use protein as a way to hit my protein targets and then create them. I listed, I've used a multivitamin before but I don't regularly take a multivitamin and I know your thoughts on that. But kind of for a desk, you sound, we're weren't start, but they're giving a

word. I got about 50 supplements. Yeah, yeah, first off, I was actually thinking about like the, I was thinking about, you know, fear and loathing. I've seen the movie of the like, roll like the drugs who case. That's me, dude, save your money, bro. Yeah, save your money. He said it. I was actually going to save that save your money. I mean, save your money. I was actually gonna save that save your money. I mean, we're about to head into some shitty times in the next six months or so and everybody should be saving their money. It's you are you

I'm gonna fucking do it. With your is my guns. Yeah, my God. We're in a recession, bro. It's a times we're gonna get time. Let's let's your rich.

If you're rich, you got money to throw around, then why not? Let's play with some supplements, but you're you're you're and to throw around, then why not? Let's play with some supplements. But you're, you're, you're, and by the way, all my partners are going to hate me for saying this. But you're, you're doing the things that we talk about. We've been talking about since the beginning of the show well before we had partners and sponsors with the show. And that's, those are the big rocks, man.

That's what's going to move the needle. That's what's going to make you feel better, look better, stronger. Now, does that mean that you could not potentially benefit from some supplements? Sure. Maybe there's some somewhere you're lacking. And if you feel, but if you don't have the signs, like if you're not telling me like, Adam, I just, my energy levels dip or I've got, I've got this chronic issue going on. If you don't have any of that, then I would tell you you're probably doing pretty damn good and stick to what you're doing,

unless you've got this disposable income you want to play with and try those different things. I mean, creating beneficial. You're already taking that. Protein to hit your protein targets beneficial. You're already doing that. Those are the mega ones. The only other thing I would say,

and you already said it, is go get tested, which you can get very inexpensive testing through Dr. Cabral. And I can't remember the link, maybe Doug can find that for me before we hang up here, but isn't there a link they could go to or they could find the test? Well, go join the free forum to start.

We'll get free information there at first. So it's MP holistic health on Facebook. But nonetheless, do testing, because if you have a nutrient deficiency, or let's say you have a little bit of high of heavy metals, that will make a huge difference to solve that problem, versus just taking general supplements that you'll find out there.

So I would say, I always recommend this to people, is get tested, see if you're lacking anything, because that makes a big difference, or if you need to supplement to help with any toxicities in your body, like heavy metals, and then creatine and protein are very, very useful for most people. Everything else is like, you know,

it's like a the cherry on top, you know? Okay, so I have a green juice when I don't eat a lot of vegetables, I'll take that sometimes. I like a pre-workout before I work out because it gets me hyped up. And to be honest with you, I like the feeling of taking caffeine. So that's cool too.

You know, I like the gold juice at night for relaxation, but also it tastes good and it's fun. But do I need all those things? No, I don't. If I eat a gold juice at night for relaxation, but also tastes good and it's fun But do I need all those things? No, I don't like if I eat a healthy diet really good diet and I work You know, I stayed consistent with my exercise and let's add a nutrient deficiency. I wouldn't need anything That's really that's the that's the 100% yeah, keep in mind he has a disposable income and he gets a lot of that shit for free So it takes all that stuff all the time So that's half a while that bad thing and based off of your perfectly healthy looking beard I'd say you're probably doing great look at that that beard. That's like the most perfect beard I've

ever seen. Yeah, you look pretty healthy, bro. Yeah, I appreciate it. And that was what I did. You know, I hired a trainer and I first started, I read, what's the lane-dorn fat loss forever. So I took a very like analytical approach to it and actually fixed nutrition way before I got into gym. So I fixed nutrition. I started getting down in there. I started setting up a appropriate targets. I'm over 3,000 calories right now and I see a body composition changes.

So my $2.5 and I'm trying not to get out angled at the bus stop when she turns five and I'm a kindergarten drop and are off. So I know that this is going to take years and Sal, you made a point there. I have tried a pre-workout, but I currently work out at night after I put my daughter to bed and I go to the gym about seven or eight, so I can't do 200 milligrams of caffeine. I look on Legion's website and I thought like, is it worth doing non-stimulant pre-workout for, you know, any reason?

You know what? You know, it'll make a big difference. Drink some electrolytes. So you can put some salt in your water or drink element tea. That's a good company we work with, very inexpensive. Put that in some cold water, drink some before you work out during your workout,

long as your nutrition was good during the day you're fine. And right, you don't want caffeine at night. If your sleep is fine, then I wouldn't mess with it either. But you, so one of the, I have a hard time working out after five, it disrupts the way I sleep. If you don't have a problem coming down, then I won't recommend anything to you. But that might be something you pay attention to,

is like, oh man, when I work out, do I have a hard time falling asleep? And then things like the, and I know you mentioned on there, the CBD, like that might be, have some benefits to you. A mellow has been life changing for me. Part of the reason why it was because I was deficient there. So supplementing with that was a major difference for me for falling asleep at night. So there's some things like that. But you, I mean, when you led with that, you didn't lead with problems you're having, you're gonna hear from us that you're, I think you're doing a hell of a job and stick with the big rocks that you're doing.

Totally. But if you notice something that isn't right where you're having trouble or something chronic or you get tested like Sal says, and there's something obviously off, then there's some value for sure in supplementing there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, no except I'm 31,

I've got blood work done recently to look good. I don take any medications for anything for any reason other than maybe like an occasional I do profan or something so Eight whole foods and just with weights and that's you know, it's pretty much it You know, it's there's no real issue on pointing towards I was just thinking you know There's so many great partners you guys work with and so many products that sound attractive. It's like you don't want to find the temptation just buying a bunch of things. We appreciate the support. Except Magic Spoon. Magic Spoon is delicious and I do need Magic Spoon. I did have one supplemental question to the original, no pun intended on. I recently moved out of the gym that I was in

where I had the equipment that my trainer and I had developed the programming around and now that I moved in the rural area, I'm out where I live, there's a little small gym that I were just some freeways, dumbbells, barbells, and I think I know the answer, but I'm ready to join the maps program team here. And so is anabolic where I probably start for a couple of days a week. Yep.

We'll send that to you. That's the one, man. You'll love that. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. That I don't I've done a lot of the online videos of all the priming and mobility work, but I don't own, you know, prime, prime probe, but I'm not a trainer. So I get a pass right.

You're a, it's the theme right now. It's a good time. Maps and a ball, it's gonna blow you away. That's gonna blow you. You got all those stuff down there. Yeah, bro, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you. You got your diet, diet, diet, sleep,

I mean, watch when you follow Annabolic. So your strength's gonna go through the roof. Yeah, follow Annabolic and get in that doctor cabralis forum. So the MP holistic health forum in there, I think there's just lots of good free information. He's on there. He goes, he does live questions.

I think every other week in there. So I think there's some value in there. Maybe you'll pick up some good tips, but it's free. So join that, get in there and follow in a blog, bro. Can't wait to hear from you. Yeah, I appreciate that. Thanks so much. And you guys are such an inspiration.

I've learned so much about like how to handle relationships and how to do business. The intentionality you guys have when you talk to each other and just the bond you guys have, it bleeds over in those areas of life. I know the fitness is what we're focused on, but there's so many other things we can learn from you guys. Just by the way, you guys talk to each other and carry yourself. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, guys. You got it. Yeah, you know what's funny about supplements is, if you have a genuine nutrient deficiency,

supplements are a life changer. Life changer, if you're vitamin A low, if you're zinc is low, if you're magnesium, like yours atom was low, you supplement with those things and it's like, oh my God, this really solves so many problems. That's when supplements are super important.

Otherwise, it's convenience and it can help. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, diet, sleep, and exercise are all throwing supplements on top of that stuff. I think it's a novelty out there. Yeah. So, to Adam's point, really, if you want to experiment and you want to look at it like that, like it's something that's like, you know, it's a fun idea and I want to see what it does and you got to expendable, just as well income, you know, go for it. That's how I look at it. If you have the money to spend and it's not a big deal for you to throw a couple hundred bucks here and there to try and stuff like that. I'm sure, or why not? But if you're not suffering from anything chronic, if you've done blood work and been

tested and everything looks good, you're carrying the big rocks, I'm never going to tell that person to go buy a supplement. No, man, it did why? And I take all the supplements I do because I have a problem. I have a problem, that's the reason. That'd be like me promoting everybody to eat cheese. Yeah. Well, you also have disposable income. That's the reason that be like me promoting everybody eat cheese. Yeah, well you all you also have Disposable income and it's fun. So that's it's okay to say that and to to encourage don't encourage my addiction

No, I mean listen, I mean I've gone through these phases too you if you have the dispose of why not play with your health Yeah, why not try tweaking things and oh if I add a little bit more sodium in my diet Oh, wow, I noticed different my front. Oh, if I add a little bit more sodium in my diet, oh wow, I noticed a difference with my front, oh if I add a little bit. Yeah, I'm not gonna turn tricks to get supplements, right? It's just, not, not until it gets real hard. Any more, any more. I need some creating, baby. Give me some of that creating, baby.

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