Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1863: Barbell Vs. Dumbbell Shoulder Press, the Best Non-Dairy Protein Powder, the Superior Form of Cardio & More

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

In this Quah (Q & A) episode, Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Here is a simple step you can do to alleviate chronic pain, train unilaterally. (3:27) How much do Cirque du Soleil/Vegas acts get paid? (17:29) What’s a sun fever?! (31:28) Hands-on your knees is better for catching your breath than hands on your head. (37:50) Flying with children and keeping them in line. (40:39) Weedkiller chemical glyphosate was found in the majority of U.S. urine samples. (44:53) When your plans just don’t pan out. (49:16) When your bed just feels the best. (55:13) #Quah question #1 - What is the difference in hypertrophy between the dumbbell overhead press vs. barbell? If the difference is stability, is there more benefit in using dumbbells in most press movements? (57:33) #Quah question #2 - Can you recommend a good protein powder that doesn’t contain whey? (1:04:03) #Quah question #3 - How much is too much for trigger or focus sessions? (1:12:13) #Quah question #4 - Is there a superior form of cardio? For example, would be better to run, do HIIT, or just go ham on an assault bike? (1:16:33) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Chili Sleep for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** July Promotion: RGB Bundle or MAPS Suspension 50% off! **Promo code JULY50 at checkout** MAPS Symmetry How to Prevent Injury and Pain Through Mobility Training – Mind Pump Blog MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mad Apple at New York-New York Hotel & Casino - Cirque du Soleil Effects of Two Different Recovery Postures during High-Intensity Interval Training Weedkiller chemical glyphosate is found in 80 percent of Americans' urine Mind Pump #680: Dr. Zach Bush On How To Restore Gut Health Visit Drink LMNT for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1767: Dumbbells Vs. Barbells Mind Pump #1757: The Truth About The Anabolic Window & Protein Timing Are Any Supplements Worth The Cost? - Mind Pump Blog Independent Analysis on Supplements & Nutrition | Examine.com New Study of Protein Powders from Clean Label Project Finds Elevated Levels of Heavy Metals and BPA in 53 Leading Brands The Most Overlooked Muscle Building Principle – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1845: How To Do Cardio & Not Lose Muscle What is NEAT and Why Should You Care About it? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Steve-O (@steveo)  Instagram Criss Angel (@crissangel)  Instagram Scott Thompson (@carrottoplive)  Instagram Zach Bush, MD (@zachbushmd)  Instagram

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in your training to alleviate chronic pain. Train unilaterally, just train one limit of time for about two months, and that tends to solve a lot of pain problems. So that's a really good tip, but you need to explain that a little bit more. Yeah, I wanna get into it, but I'll tell you first why that is the way I opened the show today. So obviously map symmetry now has been out for, let's see, when do we release that?

About four or three months ago? Something like that? Yeah. So June, I think. So the initial people that signed up for it during the launch now are going through it, right? So they've been through it at least half of it is what we're seeing. And I'm getting a lot of messages from people who followed map symmetry. And the number one comment I'm getting is it took care of the pain that I had. Oh, I used to have this back pain, I had this hip pain, knee pain, and it's totally gone now after following the program.

And map symmetry is not a correctional exercise per se program, but it's a lot of unilateral training. And it just, you know, it just highlights how effective training one side of your body is at a time at kind of solving these, I don't know. It helps you to focus on where you're unstable. Yes. A lot. And so it's like, you don't realize that because we're creatures of habit. And what we've developed in terms of these patterns of lifting, a lot of times you can mask a lot of those imbalances by momentum or by, you know, if you're doing a lot of bilateral exercises specifically, you can use your body in ways where you can basically bypass a lot of those issues that are underlying. So it really helps to kind of bring that to the surface.

Totally. I mean, if let's say you do a lot of barbell exercise, which are phenomenal, but let's say one side of your body is 3% different than the other in terms of muscle recruitment pattern, which is very common, very common, right? 3% is nothing, by the way. I'm using a very conservative number,

but just 3% different. So it's either 3% weaker or 3% less stable, or the recruitment pattern is different, but you always train this way. Over the years, that means that some joints are gonna be stressed differently than others, and it can cause problems. And what happens is you strengthen that difference,

that 3% becomes solidified, because you consistently train it that way, what you train is what you strengthen. And it doesn't become something that's visible or you can target until you really start training one at a time. That's when things start to happen. And then you strengthen in that direction and things tend to bounce out. Well, too. And when you keep doing bilateral type of lifting, you're going to be loading a lot more than you would unilaterally. And so it's, it's like you're putting more stress and demand on your body to what's underlying and not being addressed.

And so it's like you just try to kind of muscle through it a lot of times, you know, especially athletes, guilty of trying to kind of self correct as you're just pushing through. When in fact, being able to take that time away from really intensifying your workouts and adding more load, it does your body so much better. You guys remember as trainers, when you first started to make the connection that most chronic pain was connected to weakness and instability versus like something wrong. I remember as a young trainer, like, you know, clients telling you that they had chronic pain in every other, and not really knowing, where to address it, or the best thing

that I think I knew what to do back then was like, I'll try and strengthen the muscles that are near that area. Sure, stretch things out. Yeah, or stretch potentially, like thinking it's that way when in reality, more often than not, when somebody is complaining of chronic pain,

it's due to weakness and instability in that surrounding joint. Yeah, or even just distal joints, right? Because like if my ankle is, my left ankle has some mobility or some strength issues, I might be so good at compensating that my ankle itself doesn't feel bad, but then the area that compensate.

Then you're knee hurts. Knee or the hip, right? Or even, I've even seen go all the way up to kinetic chain to like the shoulder. Yeah. I had a physical therapist that I worked with for a long time, not personally, but she worked in my studio, and she was amazing.

She was excellent. Her name was Laurie. And I remember one time she had a client who had like kind of neck pain neck tightness. And eventually she was like, oh, it's coming from his left, thing was his left foot or something like that. And I remember being like, well, that's ridiculous. This back when I was kind of more of a bro trainer.

And she showed me and then she trained it and it went away. And I remember being like, well, I guess everything's connected. It kind of makes sense. I know I used to be so mystified by that. Like you get some issue with like the left ankle and then your right shoulder would be messed up. Well, it the Contra lateral kind of ping pongs. It ping pongs all the way up the kinetic chain. So it's like if if you have a week a week joint over on on this side, like you have weakness and instability on this side, then the next joint up is got issues then the next joint up has issues pushing it further out. Yeah, and then it keeps going all the way up and

I remember figuring that out. And then that was like a tactic I would use with clients, like trying to convince them to be personal trained with me early on because it would blow their mind. It would blow their mind that you could, they'd have maybe something like you said, like upper back or shoulder issues. But it's not that. Yeah, it's not that. You could work it all the way down.

And then you find out, they're like, oh, I actually broke my ankle like three years ago. You think that has to do with all that? I said, yeah, well, because then you're compensating on this side, and then that side over compensates, and then that side over compensates, and then it works its way all the way up, and all that stuff hurts. Oh, yeah, totally.

Like if you put like a quarter inch rise in one shoe, or even less, something that's kind of barely perceptible, and then walk around like that all day, I guarantee your back will start to bother you. And I guarantee if you stick to it long enough, your neck will start to bother you. That's like it reminds me of, I didn't mean sign-filled, even covered this,

but like when George had the huge wallet. I'm sitting on it, constantly. Yeah, it's just like those hips are just constantly in that sort of asymmetry all day long, and it just destroys your back, right? Like stupid stuff like that. It affects you if it's like a continual thing. What is it with the dad wallet?

By the way, that is such a dad wallet thing. Dude, yeah. Keep all the receipts. Yeah, that's what it is. Like coupons and everything. He's keeping all the receipts from everything, you know? I do. I'm still a tourist.

I'm like a brick in his back pocket. That or like business card, right? So I'm going to have this card. Oh, God. I put, gotta keep that. You never know. I might need that. You don't say, it's the book. Yeah. Five business card, oh, go ahead, I put, get a keep that. You never know, I might need that. You don't say, just put, five years later, it's this big.

You know, he's like, I called the guy sometime. It's hilarious. No, so I got a DM from a woman who was a power lifter, competitive. So she's not a beginner, not even intermediate. She's been competing. I think her DM said like three years or something like that.

And she was an I bought map symmetry because I've been powerlifting so long. Obviously powerlifting is all bilateral, barbell type movement. She was strong. I don't remember what a lift's were, but she listed on it. She was really good.

She says I followed map symmetry. I went back to powerlifting. She's like, I can't believe how much less pain I feel. And now I'm starting to break my OPRs because of correcting these issues. This conversation flies in the face too of the other side that likes to debate the whole mobility side in a way.

This is the part that annoys me. It's like when you've been doing this long enough, you've seen this, it's so common in clients where they have an issue like that, that if you actually focus on it, address it, work like you use your example of the ankle stuff. If someone has really poor and weak feet and ankles and limited range of motion on one side, and if you actually address mobility in there, you will see improvement in that chronic

pain all the way up their body. Or you could just fall in the other camp, but just as like, oh, that's such a waste of time to do mobility exercises. You should just train your way through it. It's just so silly to me that that's even an argument in our space. And I know where it comes from. It comes from the fact that general strength improvements

will improve mobility generally. But when you come down to an individual with chronic pain like that, especially somebody that's been working out for a while, you got to be more aware more than- This isn't coming from dumb trainers. He's coming from intelligent people that will try and use studies to prove their point that you don't need that. They only point that they have as valid with that as if it's not being applied as strength-driven mobility, right?

Yeah. Mobility is supposed to be about strengthening and supporting around and creating that stability. It's not about flexibility or anything passive. So if you're utilizing any kind of like stretching technique where we're more passive than that, then it doesn't apply as well. No, having lots of flexibility with little strength

is actually some of the most unstable that you can ever be. I've, and it's not common, but I've worked with clients who had hyper mobility or super flexible, like Gumby, no strength. They were the most challenging clients to not hurt. They were far more challenging than my tight clients because the range of motion was so ridiculous. They had such little control.

I had to stop the reps short and watch them very carefully because they could easily squat, ask the grass and do all kinds of crazy stuff, but because they lacked the strength and stability, they would hurt themselves. And it was really challenging. It's such a good point that you bring it up, Justin, because when I'm coaching mobility, the main thing that I have to coach is not the movement or exercise itself, but the intent. So I mean, that was kind of the is not the movement or exercise itself, but the intent. Yes. So I mean, that was kind of the motivation behind the webinar, right?

The Prime Pro webinar that I shot years ago was to show... Nobody cues like that. Yeah. And I had to give you credit for that because it's like, as you're doing, you have to be like, I need to be tense right here. I need to feel this muscle being fired up and activated through this stretch. Otherwise, you should be a struggle. Otherwise, you just naturally go to the in range and you don't gain any more access.

Right. In order to gain that access, you have to create that isometric tension to gain that new access, that new range of motion and really see serious improvement. If you just see somebody on YouTube doing some mobility exercising, you hear everyone talking about mobility mobility mobility, you're like, okay, I'm going to start trying to do this. And you start doing some lizard with rotation, some combat straight. You start doing some of these moves. And you do it for a while and you're like, that didn't shit. Now, now I follow in the camp of the other side that is going like, oh yeah, it's a bunch of bullshit, a waste of time. It's not really helping people. It's like, well, no,

how you do it is so important. Because if you don't do it with the right intent, then yeah, it will come off that one. I had kind of a loose conversation around this topic with my kids because we, so we just got back from Vegas to visit family, but we also went and watched some shows. And one of the shows we saw was Matt Apple, it's a new Cirque du Soleil show, which by the way, best Cirque du Soleil show that I've ever seen. Oh, it was incredible.

And I'm gonna get into the conversation in a second, but it was so good because it was broken up with stand-up comedians. So they would do an act. Interesting. And then like Brad Williams came out and did an act. And then a couple other guys that had never heard of that were hilarious came out.

So in between certain acts, they would be stand up and I thought it was such a great combination of interesting. Very entertaining, super entertaining. But anyway, you know, in the Cirque shows, they often have people that do either contortion type stuff or performance with this like extreme mobility and range of motion. And as we're watching this, my kids are like, you know, afterwards are like, how do these people not like hurt bending backwards? And like, there's the, a lot of these aerial acts in there. And one of the aerial acts is where a guy will hold on to strap with one arm, hang with one arm and support someone else and twist and spin.

And the shoulder mobility is insane. And he's like, how do they not, like how can they do that? And I said, well, through practice and through training, they own that all those ranges of motion, they own. Like if I moved your arm in that position, even if I could move it in that position, you'd have no control over it. You'd have no, you wouldn't have strength there. You'd hurt yourself.

That guy and that girl up there, every single one of those positions is strong. So that's what I was kind of, you know, break it. Well, you also have to overload themselves and get to that point. Yes. You also have to remember too, that you were looking at the pinnacle of that also.

Oh, that's an extreme. So that's like, it's also like talking to your kids about looking at NFL players or NBA players and being like, how did he just three seats and don't go like that? Okay, well, one, he has practiced that his entire life to get good at that, two, he's also the one percentile that's genetically gifted to be able to do that.

So you have the combination of these people that have hypermobility and strength as it is. And then they've compounded that by training it for decades and decades. For a whole lives. So, in the circus shows, there are aerial acts where they typically pluck from gymnastics and, you know, competitive aerial type sports. And then there's these traditional circus acts that you don't get in gymnastics and stuff,

but you have to go to these family circuses in Europe, Italy, very common. Well, they'll go to these small circus acts and pluck children and recruit them because they do these, like there's certain acts that you just don't see anywhere except for in circuses. For example, there was this woman who literally, she had a long hair, she attached her hair to this cable and did it.

And it would yank her in the air. And she would use these aerial acts in the air and she would use these air relax in the air attached by her hair. Now I mean her neck strength must it was just red as I'm watching this I'm like how is this not ripping her you know and but you can see like a receding hairline because she preps this all the time. So her hair is getting really so gnarly like heading twice and everything. So crazy but so impressive to see this extreme, you know, but Jessica was telling me because, you know, she, she traveled

with Circus Ole for years and she's like, oh yeah, they go to, because I'm like, where are they fine? Like, where are you gonna find someone that hangs from your hair? And she's like, that's actually an old circus act. And they would go, they go to these circuses around the world, like Russia, Italy, and I forgot where else. And they find these people and they pay them to come do these weird You know crazy acts that you won't see. That's crazy. Have you ever asked her how like I've always been curious like how well they get paid at like at different levels

Very good question. So they get paid the performers tend to get paid really well Especially if the act that you do is centered around you or not only center around you But not letting many people do them. So the circus acts, the real rare ones, it's really hard to find people to do certain acts, like the straps and like certain aerial acts and like people who fire a bow and arrow with their feet, stuff like that, they can get paid high often

because you have like such a low supply of people that do it. So have you ever asked your kind of like with the ranges? Like what's like, you'll never believe who's some of the highest pay most novel you get paid the most. You know who's some of the highest paid people in search? The guy, the guy fucking with the tigers. Oh, what about the flyer eaters?

They don't do animals that search the same. Oh, okay. Okay. But, no, there's a lot of that. But now of course it ranges, depends on the, the actual, what's what? The clowns. What? Okay, so, oh, there's a clown school, right? There's course it ranges, depends on the, the accent. The accent. What's what? The clowns. What?

Okay, so, oh, there's a clown school. Right? There's a whole universe. So first off, people don't know this. I learned this from Jessica. Before I met her, I thought clowns were like, you know, red, those colored face, accent, stupid, right? Yeah.

No, it's the guy or girl that comes out that opens a show entertains you, does acts in between, and basically makes the show. You're right, because you know why? They orchestrate it so much that if something goes wrong, it's their job tos you, does acts in between and basically makes the show. You're right, because you know what, they orchestrate it so much that if something goes wrong, it's their job to go in there and entertain the crowd. They also have to have multiple skills. That's what I mean.

Yeah, they can juggle, they can spire, they can, like this guy, this clown for Matt Apple was so good that he was speaking in different accents, he was telling jokes, it was funny. He did this one act where he had this beer on this rope and then he spun it around so the beer, but the beer wouldn't fly and you think he's gonna throw it at everybody.

And it was legit, like he was balancing a weird act, right? Then he did shadow puppets and did this whole comedy act around it. So, and she was like, oh, he's really good. She goes, you know, clowns are some of the hardest people to find, some of the highest paid. My kids are like, freaking out. Like, what?

They are? So what's the range? Like, what's the point? Oh My kids are like freaking out. Like what? They are? So what's the range? Like what's the point? Oh, I don't know what the point is. Oh, you don't know how the market is. No, I'm not. I'm not here. You do.

I'm not here. You think I'm a bad rap from horror movies. So now you got me thinking here, okay. So it rodeos clowns are always there. So is that like if you didn't make it? And you. Yeah. Is that like if you if you didn't quite make this

okay. That's a level. Yeah, you get the area. Or the placement. Or that's like you that's your internship. You got to start there. You're going, I'll just be a class. That's like you that's your internship. You got to start there. You're gonna chase by some bulls and shit. Yeah, you blast it. Wow. I didn't think about that. Yeah, because they they

always have like that's a rough job. rodeo. rodeo clouds are rough. They get you had the juggles. They got a dog take on the bowl a lot of times just to get the guy out. But I never I never assume they were high paid. So I don't know how much they get paid. But I know that the perks are out. But I never, I never assume they were high paid. So I wonder how much they get paid. But I know that the perks are really good. I mean, can somebody in the act make beyond six figures or is it like you're more into traveling and art and so you're not really so.

I know that they're well paid, but also not only do you, what does that mean you keep saying that to me? I think it's in the six figures. Okay, yeah, pretty sure it's in the six figures. Well, it says most between 30 and $100,000 a year. Yeah, well, that's because there's so, I bet the circuit ones are paid higher than that, right?

Or are you looking at the difference? It depends on probably how well the show is, too. That's what I mean. And then, and then when they travel with them, I would think that maybe this is cover. Yeah, housing and food is probably cover. So that's, you travel over the world. So if you make a hundred K a year

and you don't pay for housing or food, that's good money. And you're traveling the world. And you're just like, like, can you imagine that? Is that how worst? What do you see in Doug right now? Yeah, I mean,

most are offered a one to two year contract with a competitive salary. And what I'm seeing here is between 30 and $100,000 a year. That's a big, big range. Yeah, they're counting all circus acts and all clowns. So I'm pretty sure circus at the top, right? For no, I'm talking circus delay. Really? Yeah. Interesting. So then it's like I trained a girl who was trying to try out for it one time. Really? Yeah, a long,

long time ago. And I remember, but I don't remember asking her how much money they made. But I do remember it was better than I thought. Like I didn't think it was a well paid position. I thought that's like a passion type of deal that you would do because so many people aspire to do that. But I guess if you're making a hundred K and you don't got to pay for anything. And you get to go to all kinds of different countries and get everything taken. I would imagine it attracts a lot of like young 20 year olds I would think, right? People that are like early age still have families.

Yeah, well, you know, she did tell me that there were people though with families who bring their kids, the kids would get schooling, you know, travel schooling or whatever, and the parents would do the show. You know what's his name, Steve O from Jackass? Yeah. He went to like a clown school. Like a, did he really?

Yeah, yeah, and so he learned the trade of like the circus clown, and then obviously like shifted that over to doing what he does. But it makes sense, because he'll do so many random things and just destroy parts of his body just because. I wonder how popular clown school is. Are they all over the place

or is there a couple in the country? Not sure. Yeah. Because what's the main one, like a Barnum and Bailey or Not sure, yeah. Yeah, cause what's the main one like a Barnum and Bailey or whatever? No, that's it. That's a old school circus. And they're not doing well.

That's a traditional circus. Well, no, traditional circus is not, is without animals, I think, if I'm not mistaken. What? If you go way back, I believe the traditional circuses, they started in Europe and they were about, they were human performances. If I'm not mistaken

I don't know you have the fact that this game. He's been wrong a lot lately. Wait wait hold on The People do I don't what episode was but people do in movies pump up before scenes For sure for eight nine hours a day and Of course of course, no, I don't know this is true I definitely had a lot of people tell me like for sure like Natalie Port. It was like green screen. Oh CGI. Yeah Yeah, I heard that. Oh wow now you're here because you look Jack bro. Yeah compared to how show Especially all the promotional, like,

marketing and stuff that they're showing, like, certain shots and like, pictures, like, I was like, this doesn't look real. Well, dude, so, back to the search shop. Shows in shape. Back to the search shop. It was 16 and over. I brought my 12 year old.

And it was a little bit. There were moments where I was like, hmm, especially the comedians. The comedians came out and were doing some humor. So Brad Williams comes out. Obviously, he's, you hmm, especially the comedians. The comedians came out and we're doing some humor. So Brad Williams comes out, obviously he's a dwarf and he was talking about how his friend is a dwarf and she's dating a guy who's like six three and then he starts talking about what the handjobs look like

and he's like, is that running across the stage? He's like, and I got like one eye on my daughter and she's, you remember when you were a kid and you tried not to laugh at jokes in front of your parents Because you don't like parents to know that you know, yeah, you know, he's talking. So I'm looking at her. She's like I'm like, why are you laughing There was so much shit like that. I like why did I bring her? Oh, no, it was bad. Oh, you know what else we saw out there was a Chris Angel. Oh, how was that dude?, I'll tell you what, really good.

Obviously, you could see why the guys well known. There was one so my kids- He wears a lot of eyeliner. He helped tons of eyeliner. That's like- He's not as like the mood, I guess. Is he sponsored by someone like Mac or something? Yeah, maybe.

Chris Angel. He's, he's, he's- If you sport, he has his own makeup line, actually. He checked that out, I bet he does. Yeah, yeah. He's not, you know the picture of Chris Angel in Vegas has got he checked that out. I bet he does. Yeah. Yeah. He's not you know the picture Chris Angel and Vegas has got his like six pack and he's all ripped or whatever. Yeah, he doesn't look like that anymore He came up on that. Yeah, dude. He got the same picture. He's like I'll

Contract bro, right? Is it how long do he sign for he signed for a couple of years didn't long bro? Yeah, because his show Mind Freak was on TV in 2010. I think he started in Vegas shortly after that. So he's been out there for like 10 maybe eight years. Wow, which is a long time for a very good. Does Carrot Hub still have his deal out there? Yeah, he's still going out there. Wow, they do crash it.

They sign big long deals then. You go out there to get paid and to finish your career, right? That's it. The whole deal. I mean, it's like a guaranteed gig at that. I thought it's always been kind of the butt of the old jokes of a lot of the comedians and the, like, entertainers. That's where you go to finish your career. Yeah, is that what it is?

That's the joke. Yeah, but it's a joke, but you still caching it in. I mean, people still go to his show constantly and love it. Well, can you find his contract? I don't know how much you got paid for that. Yeah. Chris Angels contract for Vegas. And or Carrot Topps, I'm curious to like,

what the pay day looks like. Because I know I've heard entertainers make fun of it. Like it's like, you don't wanna go there. It's like, where careers go to die is Vegas. I think it's because when people go out there, they're done touring. Yeah. So it's like, okay, now I'm settled.

It's a residency. So you're just there and you don't tour anymore. Dude, there's this one, this one, act or whatever that he did that my kids were like, they lost their ship, bro. So we were like six rows back, really nice seats or whatever it could be. And he does this one where he throws a sheet over his self,

he levitates, then he disappears in the sheet falls. And the fucking guy appears in the seat in front of us. It just jumps up, turns around. My kids lost their mind. Could you catch it? Yeah, well, I saw him run down the aisle and get in front of us, but I don't understand how he went from the stage to there so quickly.

Like, literally, it disappeared, he runs by and gets in front of us. I'm like, how did that happen? It must have been someone else on stage, but anyone got caught. My kids didn't see him do any of that. All they saw was, guy turns around, takes off his jacket and a Tim and he stands up

And he's literally right in front of us and they lost their mind. I'm looking at my kids and look like So the show brings in 70 million a year He has a 10-year contract and he's supposedly worth about $50 million That's not bad at all for a magician. Yeah, that's But he didn't say what his contract was. It does not say you see me as net worth to what is 50 million I mean again, who knows if that's true or not. Yeah, those things are what they say. That's good. Buy them a lot more bracelets Hey, can I say something? Christine. Can I tell you something about I don't know much about them. I don't want to crap everybody out

But I respect the guy quite a bit now So because I'm gonna to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. So, in his show, like, kind of like maybe two-thirds of the way through, there's like this real emotional moment, and they're showing pictures of him visiting kids that are obviously very sick, and you guys know me when I see kids that are sick or where it's just totally ruined. So, I'm walking, I'm more on that mat.

I'm like, why are you showing this in the show? Now you get to ruin, I have like a bad time or whatever. I'm watching this and it's in with these kids and kids are sick and then some are bald, so I'm like, okay, they have cancer. That makes it even worse. And I'm like, I didn't know this. His oldest has been battling cancer for a while and he started a foundation.

And so that's what they were talking about. So I felt real bad for feeling angry. At first I'm getting angry, like we're trying to show like how cool you are, helping you cure. I don't know. I'm mad about ruining my time. I'm fired. But then he showed that it,

and I felt real bad or whatever. How old is this? Don't need some money. That's a good question. I think I want to say 12, I want to say, but just beat it apparently back in February. Oh, really? Yeah, so he's that's just huge foundation for children

with, you know, with Pete for pediatric cancer. So I still want to get to the bottom of the dollar, man. I'm just super curious with these guys. I am. Am I the only one that's heard that a bunch of times? Like, haven't you guys heard other entertainers talk about that? And I've always wondered like, I've always thought this sounds like a better deal. I would rather be in the same after travel. Yeah. So I've always assumed that like, that sounds like a better gig, buy my place in, buy a place. I think it is a better gig.

I think that there's some weird like jealousy amongst entertainers with that, right? So that's where I'm wondering, is it a jealousy thing? They're just being haters or making me hate you less than what you are if you're touring the world. Well, according to this,

Carrot Top makes 8 million per year. That's not bad, dude. That's not bad. You wouldn't make that shit boring there. I don't think so. No, yeah. I don't know if I'd want to live on the strip though, because if you perform a bit hard drive,

you live a strip, you live off the strip. I know. What do I thought? Yeah. I was just watching like an old clip, I don't know how old it was, a clip of him talking about how, like when he got all jacked and stuff,

because when he did the deal with Luxor, that's all he had to do was do his performance, and then he was just starting working out. So he started working out. Putting face implants and he got a bunch of steroids. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you give someone $8 million. You give someone $8 million a year and nothing to do.

If you only have a two hour show, like how many times, does they perform every night? They don't perform every night. He had some balloon packs at one plant. I wanna say, some of them five nights a week. Yeah, probably five nights a week. So you're probably working for,

if it's an hour show, it's probably like three nights of the week, probably Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and you do two or three shows, I would think. Really? Yeah, there's 300 shows a year. Damn! Oh, that's a lot. Well, you're three and a night.

Three and a night. So that's basically what we just said. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three nights, three shows a night. Is that three and a night? That's more, actually. So it's less than that. Really? It's less than Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three nights, three shows a night. Is that three hundred nights? That's more, actually, so it's less than that. It's less than Friday, Saturday, Sunday, three shows. My math is.

You know what the challenge would be? Would be like showing the same level of enthusiasm year after year. Like I thought about that watching Chris Angel and like, is he really excited about doing this? Yeah, because I know he's done this. How many times does he add new act, you know, parts to his act too?

Because you get real comfortable too being there. That's the thing about traveling to, I think it sparks a little more innovation and creativity. I would think the first year too would be awesome because you would probably enjoy that side of it that it's like you could do it in your sleep because you've done it so much. But then I would think years three, four, five of like,

you would have to want to change some of your stuff up or else it would be like, yeah, I would imagine. I mean, imagine this us, can you on here every day if we had to say the same stuff, it had the exact same stuff every single time. Like you'd have to find ways. You script it. Yeah, that would be, I would mess with you guys.

Yeah, while we're doing it. It looks like he performs every day, except for Sunday. So one show. So you got a two hour work day. Well, you don't think he also has to show up a couple hours before us. It's probably four hours a day. But 70s a week, or six days a week, that's decent.

Yeah, that's not bad. That's not bad. And the contract, would you say it was a 10 year, is that what I heard you say? Five year, five year. Oh, that's kind of cool. 40 million? Yeah.

That's not bad at all. And then cash out and be done after that. Yeah, that's hot. That 40 million. Yeah, that's not bad at all and then cash out and be done after that Yeah, that's hot. Speaking of things are hot. I don't I didn't think you could get even hotter But apparently you got too hot. I want to hear about what happened. I got you around and trucking I got a sun fever dude. I didn't even know Even know what that was. That's like five-year-olds get that I get it So Let's get that I get it. Yeah, so I just for you. So you're in the side of the fridge. Well, I saw those. It goes sun fever heat exhaustion and then heat stroke, right?

So I get to first base. Yeah, I got the first base. Yeah, well, I couldn't figure out what was going on. Well, first of all, I'm sure Cabo didn't help, right? So we had the week there. I pushed the limits in Cabo. I was on a mission to just to get as dark as I could. And like, I really wanted to show you guys what I used to look like as a kid. It's so, I was like, I was on a mission to just get as dark as I could. And like, I really wanted to show you guys

what I used to look like as a kid. So I was like, I was really, yeah, I did. I was gonna show you guys how dark you get. I'm gonna get a torch. Yeah, I can get a hell of dark dude watch. So I was on this mission in Cabo. Got pretty dark that we had that break. And then I went back and then I'm in Truckee.

Truckee was hot, we had pools and lakes. And I was not eating there. So I was skipping breakfast, I just not eating, not eating very much food. So I, and then when I was eating, I was actually eating pretty good, I was eating pretty healthy, so I wasn't getting a lot of sodium.

And then you add in the fact that I wasn't drinking any water. If I was drinking, it was either a diet coke or it was alcohol. And, and we had like back to back days of like, sitting in the sun, and I was like laying in the sun. Like I was not in the shit. Just totally. And but it didn't really hit me because I was like sipping on some things.

And I was like I said, I was drinking fluids. I wasn't drinking a lot of water. And what it was weird was what didn't hit me till the night. And I was cold. So I was like, and I remember. So you're like, I'm getting sick. Yeah, so I thought maybe I was getting. So I was like, and I remember. So you're like, I'm getting sick. Yeah, so I thought maybe I was getting sick or something, and but I didn't have any other symptoms

other than like my temperature, and then I was getting these bad headaches. Bad headaches, and then my temperature started right. I could feel my body on fire, but I was cold. See, this is why you need to take me with you all the time. You know, I would have been feeding you water. I know. And Katrina's like, what's wrong with you?

Are you sick? I'm like, no, I don't feel sick, but my body temperature just feels really weird. Like I can feel my skin is on fire. I can feel my body like super hot, but I'm freezing. And I would be, and I'd bundle all up and then I'd be, now you didn't want paying attention to your urine?

It was it dark? So it didn't get to that point. It didn't get to the point. It didn't get to the point where it was like, it was, because I know that's another thing that they say to look at is your P. I, of course, I was on, you know, what you'm gonna call it all day.

Right, my P dot com. No, no, not, what's the, what's the, what's the doctor like on that everybody does? Also, you become a doctor after you've, a web MD, yeah, Web MD, thank you. Also Web MD, okay. I got cancer. Well, you know, that's why I was, of course,

afraid of a potential heat stroke first. And so I was on there, and there's a lot of things on there. I was like, okay, I don't have all of those symptoms. So maybe it's not this. And then I started thinking, I don't feel sick. What could it be? But then I started looking up other things, and then it was like heat exhaustion.

Oh, that looks closer to what I have. And then I get sun fever. I'm like, oh, sun fever is exactly the symptoms that I have. Sun fever sounds like a disco song from the center. I got that sun. So what would you do? So what I ended up doing and that's when I knew that's what it was was I was depleted of salt and water is I pounded two elementes. So did elemente back to back like that and then just kept sucking the water down and literally could just feel my body's temperature. It just fixed, yeah, start to acclimate.

But I did roll into the next day a little bit to where I was like fatigue still and I could tell that I didn't want to get out and the sun and to that. So I kind of stayed around the house and just laid around and then by the next day I felt perfect again. That by the way, sometimes you have to be careful

drinking too much too quickly when you're in that state. Some people will throw up because they can't, they just can't absorb, but the salt actually makes it, makes a difference in how to. Oh yeah, and it was wild to feel a difference. Like how quickly it started to turn, make my body turn around and feel better, we'll just buy you that and that's when I,

because of course I'm the opposite of you, like you're like Mr. Paranoia about everything and you think you have, you always see you have cancer, like every week, cells like, I think I've got this kind of cancer. You're the guy that runs any cancer? I'm the fucking run, the opposite twice.

So I'm like, Katrina's telling me I'm not feeling well and I'm like, nah, I'm just, I'm hot from the sun, you know what I'm saying? But you're bleeding. Yeah, she's gonna give a jacket on inside the house. It's 80s. You're not fine. I'm like, well, I don't know,

it's a weird weather now. I'm like that, but then I'm like, okay, I better get off. I better get on with my feet. I'm like searching and I'm like, okay, I'm checked that off. I don't have a heat stroke, so it's okay. And then I finally get a sun fever one. I'm like, okay, well, if I pound. I don't have a heat stroke, so that's okay. And then I finally get a sun fever one,

and I'm like, okay, well, if I pound this water and I get some good salt, because of course, that's like the, they give you the, this is it, this is what you do. So let me ask you this, when did you start drinking it? Did you feel like, oh my God, I need this. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. That's when the kind of the light bulb moment of like,

oh fuck, then I actually started to recount my day. Cause I actually didn't even really think that I was like, oh shit, you know what? I haven't been eating breakfast the last couple of days. Even when I eat, I'm actually eating pretty lean in light. I wasn't eating bad, so I wasn't eating like... So sodium low and low water and sweating. Yeah, and then I started thinking,

oh man, I said I had like one little bottle of water in the last like 24 hours. The rest has been diet coax or alcohol. So you did two back to back, so I was 2,000 milligrams of sodium right out the gates. Yeah, but instantly made me feel way better. You know, it's funny. He's at the sun fever or heat exhaustion

was relatively calm. And when we were in school in sports because coaches, do you guys remember when coaches would not let you go get water? It used to be a discipline thing. They would be like, if you were not running fast enough or not pushing enough, no, you don't get a water break. Yeah. Dude, they literally had it out. So it was like PVC, like with holes in it. So it was like

you're drinking like a cattle. And you only had like a brief moment to go get water. And like, yeah, that was the whole thing. It was, it was mainly our JV year. We had like coaches that were like the weekend warrior coaches that didn't know the fuck they're talking about. And they would just dehydrate the hell out of all of us to make you tough. Oh, it was, or they would do this. I remember, as I remember learning this as a trainer

and the thing about when I was a kid and I was like those morons, you would get, remember to get a side stitch when you're running? And what would the teacher and the PE teacher say, oh, it's because you drank water. It's the opposite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cramping, it's teacher say oh it's because you drank water. It's the opposite

Yeah, it's the opposite I need water So I'll talk about the opposite of coaches because perfect for this you guys see that style If I came out confirming the fact that leaning over hunching over on your hands and knees helps you your heart rate to recover a lot more Appropriately then then your hands up like this and standing around with your coach always tells you you have to do, like, get up and put your hands up on your head to recover.

I'm like, I feel way better doing it this way. Oh, so actually, hunching over as well. Hunching over, helps you recover that much faster. I'd be strained to open up your lungs and lift your hands up forever. So, and that's just perception, right? Like it amounts to percent,

cause coaches don't like to see their, like it shows that you're tired, right? So what you're telling me is the thing that everybody says feels best is the one that is proven and that was natural. So I didn't know that came out, that just came out, that's fascinating. So that's validated.

And this is what, this is the, sometimes beliefs happen and then people become so bound to them and ignore all the signs and symptoms. Right. And ignore the natural, the inclination your body is like,

I want to lean over. What is it? That's so annoying to me. Yeah. That is so damn annoying. Yeah, so many coaches tell me obviously that, especially when I was like,

I remember when I was testing to make the team and I was like at San Jose State and we had to run, because I was a walk on, we had to run this timed liners, basically. So you do like 25 yards back, 50 yards back, 75 back, 100 back, right? And you had to do it under, I don't remember the time length,

but it was like unreasonable. And so everybody would fail. And so I was like, I'm not gonna fucking fail. I'm going balls to time length, but it was like unreasonable and so everybody would fail and so I was like I'm not gonna fucking fail I'm going Balls to the wall, you know, it's like as hard as I possibly could and I just made it within a few seconds And I was like think I I literally thought like my internal organs were gonna just come out And I'm like on the ground like Get up and put your hands on me.

I just put everything out there. You know, I'm not doing that. So this is like, I would have been love to point to, you know, actually study show. Yeah. And it just like turned that car. Just so now what will be really interesting because just because that study came out does not mean that it'll make its way to high schools and stuff. Coaches aren't even fuck about. For a very long time.

No, high school coaches are 10 years behind you. Yeah, so even the water thing, I'm kinda like, I get it. Like dealing with these kids and like, I'm going into mud or maybe every two seconds. No, you don't get water right now. I gotta use it. It needs to be hydrant, my mom said that, no. You need to be tough.

You have like an assistive who just has like a hose in the kid that just sprays it. There's some water. You should get back on the field. We do need that. Yeah, would that be great? Definitely. Open your mouth.

Yeah. That's a fire hose blast. There's your water, Brad. You hydrated now? Dude, I gotta tell you guys it's a funny story. So my youngest now, he's, I want to say, he's 21 months almost, right? He's full on entering into toddler stage. So you know, classic toddler stage, right? They challenge all boundaries. Yeah. They love saying no. No. Yeah. It's like, it's like, you know, toddler, right?

Classic. So he's becoming that now. So now when we travel, like we were on a plane again from Vegas, you're just going to look at each other like, and I don't know if we're gonna do this for a little while, because he's a handful. You gotta keep your eyes on him and keep him occupied. Anyway, had this funny, this weird experience, so we're getting on the plane. We get on first, because I got his priority, so we could hurry up and all sit together. He's already acting like a little turkey. He wants to be with her, he wants to be with me, he wants to stand up, he wants to play

with the tray that comes down. If we don't let him, he'll scream, for like two seconds or three seconds, then he wants to do something else. So we're already like juggling him back and forth. And as people are coming on the plane, one guy comes up to me, fist bump me and he goes, hey man, I love your show. I really appreciate my phone.

Oh, thank you very much, right? Well anyways, it happens like three different times, three different people call the show. So all the play, same place. All the same playing, wow, and the Vegas. No, coming back from Vegas. Oh, three different people call the show. So all the same playing. All the same playing. Wow, and the Vegas. No, coming back from Vegas. Oh, come back from Vegas.

So we all sit down and my son is acting like a little turkey, right? And I'm already, I'm thinking like, oh man, I gotta be like, yeah, people are watching. Yeah, people know me. I can't lose my shit. I gotta be perfect. Salon TMZ the next day.

Salon TMZ. Salon TMZ. I like my post, I'll just definitely know. I'm like, I wanna turn on, I wanna turn on, I to turn on cartoons and put them in front. Here, watch it. Wait a minute, people watch the show. I think you're just at the, I think Katrina and I got lucky and timed it because we flew early and then we flew recently with Max. But there was a period where we didn't fly with him and I'd

say it was between one year old and I think two because he was an absolute saint the last two times we flew with him at almost he's three now and he was almost three and we did it when he was press feeding still so press feeding it was easy because he could be on Katrina. And then when he was like two and a half, three years old, now he's kind of like old enough that like I can entertain him. Yeah. And he's and he'll do his puzzle or he'll watch a movie or do something like that. But the age that you're I think it has more to do with that, that age. Probably got to be real.

Unless you just have a real Dasao quiet kid. That's got to be the most restless, hard times. He's a good kid. He just, he's active. He knows what he wants. And now he's testing boundaries. For example, when he sits down at the table, he, one time, he put his foot up on the table, right, his little barefoot. And we're like, we don't put our feet on the table when we, what do you think he does now when he wants to see what he's going to do? Yeah, literally, he'll look at you in the face. And then

he'll put his foot up to my best. Just best just to test you you know my best friend son is that he's my best friend son is for and he's at that age And he's actually 10 get he He tested Katrina worry. She told Katrina. You're not my mom. You can't tell me what to do Oh, that's great and and Katrina's or my best friend's wife Janet and Justin were like hey You need he's gonna be like that this week So don't you go light on him because he's my son. You rip into him if he does that because he's at this age like that. And he was giving the same thing.

So no, he hasn't really messed with me. And I said, there's a couple of things I've had to check him with the sharing and stuff with that, but he has it. He was really, he hasn't done that at all to you. I said, well, yeah, he did one time. And I said, then I think I said, what'd you say to him? I said, you keep running your, I said, you keep acting like that, Hunter. I'm a beech oh, he goes, what't you tell my son that?

He's like, you know what I'm saying? I worked. Well, I worked it, then I thought, well, they can't be the brother that, and then his wife trying to go, great, now I'm gonna have him, he's gonna be telling other kids at school that his dad's gonna be at their dad,

and then I'm gonna get some, you see, fight her knocking on my fucking door with cauliflower, you're gonna like, so your hunter's dad, huh? Yeah. My kid said that you're just a... Yeah, I'll do. That's a...

I said it worked though. I said he's been behaved himself all week after that one. That's hilarious. Hey, did you guys see the study that Joe Rogan shared that was kind of making it made its way all over social media? The glyphosate one? Do you hear about this? I didn't see that.

So there was a study that showed that glyphosate. So you guys know what glyphosate's all right. They're the chemicals that... Oh, I didn't see that. So there was a study that showed that glyphosate. So you guys know what glyphosate is, all right? They're the chemicals that... Oh, I didn't see this. Yeah, so GMO plants are engineered to withstand glyphosates, because glyphosates kill plants. So we grow, for example, GMO corn, then what we do is we just spray the shit out of the corn fields

and the glyphosates kill weeds and stuff like that, but the corn doesn't because it's been modified to not. It was the year in one. 80% of people tested had glyphosate residues higher than what they are supposed to have in the urine. And the reason is because we literally spray billions and billions and billions of gallons of the stuff all over the place. It goes up into the sky, rains down on us everywhere, right? What area, like did they pull from all different areas of the country, not just like a concentrate? 80%.

Wow. 80%. So it's ridiculous. It's literally billions and billions and billions of gallons have been sprayed all over the place. So everybody's like up in arms and, you know, is this bad? Is this good? What are we going to do? That's bad.

Well, you know, I agree because the, because I had this, there was this one doctor on Twitter. I can't remember his name, but he goes, many, many studies have been done in glyphosate and none of them have connected glyphosate to cancer because that's the big worry. And I'm like, well, that doesn't necessarily mean it's safe. So we go, well, do you have any evidence? So's okay. Well, we know how glyphosate's work. They interrupt

a pathway called the shikamadi pathway, which is what kills weeds, but the shikamadi pathways also found in many fungus, bacteria, and other life forms. So we're interrupting this important pathway in many, many life forms on Earth, and to say that this is not going to have any potential negative effects is, I think, arrogant. Like, who knows what this is going to cause generations from now, or even what it's contributing to now. Like, we have testosterone levels plummeting, autoimmune diseases have exploded, allergies have exploded. Is it one of the factors? I don't know, but I don't think, I don't think it's a good idea to blast the whole earth

with this stuff. Yeah, I don't think that's the reason we'll be a little bit concerned about it. What sucks about it is, and I remember when you did that interview with Dr. Bush years ago and you talked about, I remember that just like ruined my day because it was like, even if you think you're eating well, eating organic, and everything like that,

like you're still fucked because it's everywhere. Yeah. It's coming getting picked back up and then raining back down on, on even your organic crop. He said, and I believe he said in that interview, if we stopped using glyphosate right now, it would take 100 years for them to get out of the, the, the environment. That's what I remember. I listed crap. Everybody else crap. Yeah.

Crap me out completely. Yeah. I thought, what am I doing all this for? I'm not, I'm not really happy with this crap. Yeah, crap me out completely. Yeah. I thought, what am I doing all this for? I'm not, I'm still going to get it anyway. So, yeah. I know. But it made some controversy because there's people that are like, well, show me the evidence. And I hate that because, uh, yeah, okay, just because there isn't scientific evidence, there's a mean.

It's very arrogant to say because there's no evidence. It's inner. It's, of course, a stacker. Right. You know, it's got, it affects this pathway. That's in very important organisms in the world. And we know back to your play. There's the motivation to argue so much

against the fact that you should be concerned, right? Other than the fact that you're working for a company and this may be part of your product line, whatever. Like, what are the other motivations other than, if I'm concerned about my health, I'm concerned about everybody else's health, and this could potentially be something harmful. Why contest it so hard?

Here's the argument that I would appreciate. I would appreciate scientists to come out and say, all right, look, here's a deal. We don't know all the potential effects. So far, the research shows it doesn't cause cancer, but here's a deal. We believe that the positives outweigh the negatives. We believe that the fact that it leads to greater crop yields and we can feed more people is better than for example, it'd be like saying

fossil fuels. Yeah, they pollute the earth and this and that, but they all we think that for mostly human history, when we've had it at least, it's led to more positives and negatives. Like, I can appreciate those arguments, but when I can't appreciate our the whole, there's no evidence. So what? So what? So far, you know, who knows what we're gonna end up

figuring out later on? Hey, where did you go on vacation? So I went a few different places, I'd called some autables because we were just like, I don't know, I was talking to Sal about this a little bit, I'm at the age where if something just doesn't resonate and I feel like I'm comfortable, I'm like, I'm outta here, dude.

Oh wow, really? Yeah, had that happen? Yeah, so we had that happen. We stayed in Canberra, which was fun. We got to, where is that? I heard you say that, where is that at? So it's like right up from Sanless of Bizbo, it's on the coast, it's rare, herst castle.

Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, so, I don't know. We're staying in this little town. It's a quaint little town like it's dog friendly. And so our idea, which was a stupid idea, which it was to bring the dogs and the boys and everybody and go to road trip and like go down and do this and then go to a lake.

And so I've been on this mission to like find other lakes in California to that I've never been to to see, you know, which ones are cool and like, uh, things that I need to hang out with the kids more. And because they started getting to fishing and I'm like, I felt like, you know, uh, ever got to catch some fish with his friends without me. And I'm still like, uh, said about that. You hasn't caught any with me yet. Uh, so I was all pumped to do that. still like, I'm sad about that. He hasn't caught any with me yet. So I was all pumped to do that and we were going to go this place to Arrowhead. And so we went there after we went to Cambria. And it's a nice lake.

It's down south in near LA and it's all the way up. So it was like maybe an hour away from Palm Desert, which is where we have like a rental property. And so I was like, well, this might be cool. Like if it's a nice lake, we could like jam up there every now and then and hang out. So we went up there and we ran into a place and it was like a frame house. It was like, it had adequate rooms and everything, but it was so tight. And then the dogs were just like so anxious the whole time we were there. And everything was just like really hard to get to like the lake itself. You have to be like an owner

to even have access to the lake. The whole thing's fenced off. And like you can't just swim. You can't like just go to a beach. Like you have to be like a member of all these clubs and all this shit. So you just bounced. Yeah, I was like, they fucked this. You're not here. You guys have this stupid lake. You know, and so it was just like, that's so weird. And there's other lakes close by. I was like, big bear and some other little, but they're all kind of like,

and the thing is I'm ruined because I've been going to Tahoe like so many times and like, you can't't beat Tahoe ever. And so I think Northern California lakes, I mean, I'm definitely biased, but way better. Do you guys remember when you figured that out? Like what age it was, where you figured out like, oh, I could just leave.

Yeah. And I'm like, I paid money to stay there a couple days and like, I'm gonna just get eat this. Let's go. And then everybody's like, yay! And we days and like, dude, I'm just gonna eat this. Yeah, let's go and then everybody's like, yay, and we're just like, wow, okay. I actually, how long did you stick it out for? We did a night, a one night, and then you're about. And you want to set up to be there for a few more days.

Yeah, oh, yeah, I was just like, we're out, man. I remember the day that I remember that came to me. I was probably 30 and I remember sitting at the movie theaters watching movie 20 minutes Inalien like this sucks, and then I'm like, but I paid for I'm like I paid for it anyway. I'm just gonna leave and I walked out And I remember this like over one year be miserable or just it was like in epiphany like I can do that whenever I want I could just bounce yeah, and it's the same thing So he went to our place in Palm Desert, which is hilarious We didn't go there initially because it's the summer and it's insanely hot.

Million degrees. And the pool that's there is being renovated and like totally gutted. So it was non-accessible. But the place is where it's familiar. The dogs are cool there and so everything was great. Plus there's other pools on the, yeah, the property. We actually found out that you can do a pass at the other resorts.

And so we didn't want it to high it in like Marriott. So we just went to all different pools, water slides. So the kids had a great time, but yeah, it was just so much better, but it was 116 dude. It was just like, I could be outside for five minutes. And then I had like, probably your son fever dude. I forgot that son fever baby. Yeah, I felt like probably your your your son fever you son fever dude I forgot that son fever baby yeah I was melting did you guys see the did I show you guys the video of max going down the slide I can't believe it oh really it's to you I said to you oh did you see it done I saw it okay you

said oh I think I posted it I just posted on my story I posted it yeah it's in your personal text yeah yeah I see all the. I probably all the time. You don't tell the other. So what are you hearing out? So, uh, at the summer set place, I don't know if you guys ever seen that slide. I know you, you have. I don't know if you have or not. It's like a, like a serious, it was like, you remember going down, uh, Tony Robbins,

uh, so I like that. So it's a big, uh, big slide. Yeah. It's a big slide into the pool. And I did not think he would, he doesn't even like to be in the pool without being close to me. I mean, you guys saw him in trouble,

like he wants to be close. That pool was cool because it was only three feet so he could walk in it. But obviously he can't swim. So he doesn't want to be the deep end by himself. So the pool, he's kind of like skeptical about it. But I think because my other buddies kids who were a little bit older were there

and he was watching them go up with their dads and stuff like that and get on the slide, he wanted to go up there. So I actually took him up. I'll show you guys, I actually did a video. So my buddy's wife had one of those, like, you know, Ziploc bag things that for your phone. Oh yeah. So you could get a water.

Yeah, so I actually took it on the slide and him going down it. But I mean, I created a monster after that. That's all he wanted to do. You know, he just wanted to do a slide all day. So you had to walk him up. Well, I think that's part of the sun fever. I was like, out there all day, and then all I'm doing is like walking up these fly stairs.

Like, yeah, I must have did it 50 times, dude. He was so excited. But I was so pumped that he was willing to even do it. Cause I mean, it's fast enough that it throws me back. Like I can't, I was holding him and you see, I like fall back because the thing moves so quick. But are you guys like, so I have this weird thing where I find on a trip, I haven't been on a trip

this many like a way days and a long time. But do you guys get this where you miss of all things you're bad, where you go home and you're like, oh, I can't wait to go home. So, when we're up in, because the trucky place has amazing beds, I love those beds up at that place. That's like one of my favorite beds is the trucky beds. But what we don't have there is we don't have AC

because it cools down at night, but I like it so cold that it doesn't get cold enough for how I like it. And so what I miss is the chili pad, more than anything. So that's what I want to do is get that up there at the trucky house for that, for, that makes sense there for, for summertime. Yes.

For at least a summertime to, so I could cool off that side because that was, I could not wait to, I mean, last night I got home, right? So, and that was like the first thing making sure my chili was different. It makes it a different stuff to run it. Oh, yeah. Now the contrast.

Yeah. Huge difference in how it works. Well, especially when it's, you know, 80 plus 80 plus degrees outside and at place like where we're at, a trucky where you couldn't even cool it down. You can't cool it down other than opening the windows and slowly. So by about three in the morning, it hits the temperature I like, but from, you know, laying in bed from 10 to three, I'm like tossing an intern in and with the chili pad, I have a time to where I hit that thing and it's already ice cold when I get to do that.

Let's do that. Let's put them up there. Yeah, I think we should. Hey real quick, check this out. Do you eat a diet that's low in heavily processed foods, or do you have a diet that's low in carbohydrates, or do you sweat a lot because you like to work out frequently? You probably need more electrolytes in your diet. Mostly sodium. We'll check this out.

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packets for free with any element T order. And that's only for mind pump listeners. Again, it's drinkelemente.com forward slash mind pump. All right, here comes the rest of the show. First question is from Lance R. Meyer. What is the difference in hypertrophy between the dumbbell overhead press versus barbell? If the difference is stability, is there more benefit in using dumbbells

in most press movements? Okay, so the obvious answer is going to be this, your best bet is to do both right, uh, and, into cycle between the two of them. But what's fun about questions like this is people always want to know either or, like which one is better, as if you have to just pick one or the other. Um, that one's hard for me to say because the barbell, you can definitely load it more, and you can really get more power output and strength, but when it comes to balance,

the stability obviously the dumbbells are gonna be. Well, and then also, you can move the dumbbells in the most optimal joint pathway. Your hands are stuck. Yeah, so it's like, just as always makes a case where he loves kettlebells for kettlebell pressing because the natural kind of spiral motion that you press with when you do that is feels the most natural. And so dumbbells will be the most comfortable.

And you'll probably have the better, safer technique. Like, if I'm training a new client, I would always start with a dumbbell press before barbell press. Yeah. Because one, I want to get some joints to, I would always start with a dumbbell press before a barbell press. Yeah. Because one, I want to get some joints to, I want to train their joints stability in there before I put it, you know, load it a lot. So I would start them with dumbbells and then move there. Now for someone who's an advanced lifter, you'd be a fool not to use both.

They both have their advantages and they both are important. And then I know the person starts this and it prefaces it with hypertrophy. And like you said, they want an answer, but it works. Well, then the answer is, if it's for hypertrophy and we're specifically, my question that follow up as a trainer, I would say to you is, which one do you do more of?

And then you do the opposite. If it's from building muscle, and you're an advanced lifter, so you've already got good joints ability, you've already done dumbbells before, you've already done barbells before, I would ask which one falls in your routine most of the time? I'd say do the other one now for a while. This doesn't answer the question,

but I'm just noticing a trend, and I'm sure it's just a divisive sort of marketing ploy for, but a lot of these hypertrophy nerds trying to devalue a lot of strength lifts. Yeah. And it's really annoying. And here's the thing. So I saw one recently too about like seeing how it's so

stupid to do like any kind of sled drives or sled work for hypertrophy. And it's, you know, just because it's a eccentric part of the muscle contraction. And it's like, yeah, no shit. But it still has a lot of value. Like everything doesn't have to be super hypertrophy-based. Like it all fills into the same bucket.

And if you're not doing something, you're gonna advise me to stimulate in a new way, which creates growth. Listen, if all you did was push the sled to build your legs, then you'd be dumb. Yeah. And you would, and you would, and you neglected barbell backsquads,

and you neglected front squats and lunges and stepups. But to not use this sled and to compliment that, I think that's silly. You know what's funny about that is the fact that it doesn't have, so this is what good coaches and trainers know. The fact that the sled doesn't have eccentric blowing. So for people who don't know this, eccentric portion of a rep is the lowering part. So if I do a curl, concentric is coming up and then lowering the weight is eccentric. And I'm lowering it with resistance.

Obviously with the sled, you're only pushing forward. There's no eccentric load. And studies show that the eccentric part contributes the most to muscle building. But here's the, this is the trick now. Here's the key. Good coaches and trainers don't look at a sled and say, oh, it doesn't eccentricly load, that's a detriment. They say that's a feature and a benefit. Now why?

Yes, the centric tends to build a lot of muscle, but eccentric also causes the most damage. So I can add the sled and add volume to routine while minimally, and reduce risk substantially. Yeah, while minimally adding the fact that this person needs to recover a bunch more. So I want to add volume, but I want to be careful and not add too much intensity,

and I don't want the person over-trained. For example, you could push the sled almost every day and probably not, I mean, depending on the person's fitness level, not over-trained. And so that's a feature with the sled, not a detriment. Now back to the dumbbell barbell thing. Look, I'll say this.

I think if we're talking pure hypertrophy, I would say dumbbells probably. Again, the best hypertrophy though would be a combination of the two. And that's really the key here is to utilize all these things. And strength is strongly related to muscle size. It's so stupid to say it isn't. It's so closely related, especially in the first few years of training, like the first few years of training, try building muscle without getting stronger. Good luck.

It's not going to happen. The way you build muscle, especially in the first couple of years of training, is by getting stronger. Now, eventually you hit certain limits and you can't keep getting stronger forever. And then, you know, you could play with some different stuff. But strength and muscle are both, I mean, what's, what, with both hold a lot of value.

They do, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's so, it's dumb to say that, but yeah, barbell versus dumbbell, but that's why it's happening. You're right, Justin. Yeah, you pointed out something that is really popular right now, and it is, it is this hypertrophy crowd that wants to say, oh, that's so stupid to use that tool,

or, you know, they want to pick apart somebody who's advocating for a tool like a sled and be like, that's the same crowd that says that deadlifting is such a stupid exercise for your back. It's a glued dominant exercise. Why would you call it a back exercise? It's so silly. It's again, half of the motivation for starting this podcast was to have conversations around these type of nuances because the fitness space

loves to put everybody in these boxes and getting camps and my way is better in your way. And the truth is like, if you have access to barbells and dumbbells and you want to build a sculpted badass physique, don't you dare neglect one or the other? No, analyze both. Here's something fun you could do

if you've been working out for a long time. Just do dumbbell overhead presses or dumbbell shoulder exercises for two months or just do barbell exercises for two months. I'll donate that way and then just notice the difference. Well, and that's where my advice comes from, like my quick advice of a cake, because this has been I've had these questions asked me my whole career. Someone walks up to me, interrupts my workout, ask a very specific question like this, and the best quick answer I could give them without assessing them and training them for a long time would be like, what have you been doing? You want to build more muscle on your shoulders?

What have you been doing? Do you do more dumbbells? Do you do more barbells? Oh, you do almost always barbells? Go to dumbbells. Do you do the one? Or vice versa, right? So that's really the short answer.

Next question is from Robin Lyons. Can you recommend a good protein powder that doesn't contain way? Yeah, you know why this is a good question? Because way protein, first of all, I want to talk about the benefits of way protein. Way pro, and you know what's funny, by the way, before the fitness industry figured this out, way was the part of the milk that they threw away. You couldn't sell way. You know, this you worked in a dairy. You would toss it, toss it, right?

But they figured that way is very high and essentially amino acids, very high and branch amino acids. It's for people who can tolerate it, very bioavailable. It's got immune boosting properties. One of the best muscle building proteins that exists and simultaneously it mixes very easily in liquids.

So it's like the perfect protein powder. Like if you've ever tried way and you've tried like other protein powders, you know that way. It tends to mix. Yeah. Very well and tastes very good. It's not as grainy and like, yeah, it blends really nicely. Blends very well.

So it's the best of all the proteins you can get. Protein powders, way is definitely the best one. But if you're like me, I can't tolerate any dairy. So I can't have way, I can't have casing, I can't have any, even if it's lactose-free bothers my gut. So I have to go with other options. What are some of those better other options? Well, if you stick to animal sources of protein,

which tend to be better if you're gonna go gram program, you could buy egg protein powders, egg protein powders however they tend to because it's high in I think sulfur. Tens of cause pretty bad forts. Yes. A lot of people will say that and I've noticed that myself and I've had clients notice that but if it doesn't egg is really good. You could do collagen. Collagen's got some benefits but it's not the best muscle building protein, gram for gram, but it's got some other health benefits. And then you can go vegan.

Now with vegan protein, what you'll see is what you don't, what you want to stay away from are single sources of vegan protein, like just soy or just pea because vegan sources are protein, they, you're better off with the combination. It gives you a more balanced amino acid profile. So the one that I use obviously, we've been working with Organify for a long time. Their plant protein is the best one that I've ever used. And I've used plant proteins now for 15 years.

And I've gone brown rice protein, I've gone soy protein, I've gone pea protein. Organifies is this blend of different vegan sources. And it's very easy to digest, and I feel really good on it. So that's the one that I would recommend. No, since you recommended Organify, I think it's a good opportunity also to talk about buying protein powder based off of price

because I think that's probably been the number one thing that I've had to discuss with clients when I talk about protein powders because even well before we worked with organic, or organic, if I even existed, I was a trainer. And I'd recommend a protein potter. I'd always recommend a couple of brands that I really liked, and my clients would always come back.

It was the constant battle. And I had to get a protein potter. I was like, oh yeah, no, I found this one. It was, they always find the cheaper one, because they're always trying to save money. And they'd be like, oh, this one you recommend was like 60, 70 bucks. I found this one for 35 for whatever. And it's like, the supplement industry is not regulated. So going for the cheapest supplement product is most often not the best strategy.

So you have to explain like what makes a good quality protein powder and why you're spending more money because I know when people see Organify, Organifies on that upper tier of price point for what they would they have. Well first off, protein powder is a very low margin supplements. A lot of people don't know this, but supplement companies don't make huge profits off protein powders because it's so competitive. It's about 10-15%. Yes, that's such a good point. That's all supplements. Protein powders are smaller because the way, you know where they make their margins, pre-work

outs and other stuff. It's the protein powders below because it's such a competitive market. In fact, supplement companies often will be okay with like a one or two percent margin knowing that they'll bring people in to buy their other products. So why am I saying this? Because it's, there's not a lot of room to cut price unless you cut quality. This is where you see the difference.

What do I mean by quality? Well, first off, supplement company, big ones have been caught and busted for doing things like amino acid spiking. So if a company says it's 30 grams of protein per scoop and a company comes in to test that, the way they test that is they don't test all the amino acids. They'll test one.

Okay, 30 grams of protein of way should have this much loose in it. So they'll test the loose in and then they'll confirm, oh, it's got 30 grams of protein. What these shady supplement companies were doing and there were a few that got busted, literally, legally, is they would just spike it with losing to make it cheaper. So then when you test it, oh, 30 grams of protein,

and reality is like 15 grams of protein per scoop. So you're paying less, but you're getting way less protein, not getting 30 grams, you're getting 15 grams. Then there was a whole issue that happened, I think four or five years ago, where vegan protein powders were getting tested and found to have dangerous levels of heavy metals. Which is especially alarming if you can't have way, right, and your options are limited,

but now like a lot of these vegan proteins that are out there have this toxic amount of metal that you're going to be consumed with. Yeah, you take it every day, your body and your head be metals very well. Yeah, and that can cause some serious problems. And it was the organic ones. Why? Because organic pesticides sometimes can cause high levels and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head and your head get what you pay for when it comes to protein powder? Is it still examine.com is like one of the better places you can kind of check a lot of these companies and their track record? I don't think you can check companies, but they'll break down. You want to look for what the company are third party tests. How many third party companies go in, test them, can you get the report, like you can call

or get an ask for, third party testing, and they'll send them to you. So it's very, very good quality. And again, remember, you're consuming most people who take protein powders, take them almost every day. So something you take that often, you don't, you want it to be really good quality. You don't want it to be bad quality because it's something you're putting your... Well, if it's significantly cheaper, you should ride away. That should be a red fly. Because of what you said, it's 10 to 15% margins. That is so small. And that's because all of these companies

are getting the main stuff, like the actual protein powder or whatever they're fortifying it with, from all the same places. So if you're actually getting what it says in there, it costs about the same for everybody. So their prices have to be somewhat competitive. So if someone is $20, $30 cheaper a jug than this other company, then something's probably going on.

They're either spiking some bullshit or they're exaggerating because it doesn't have to be FDA approved. So they're not regulated. So you have to look for, and they're, or they were not paying for third-party testing, which cost companies money to do that also. Look, supplements are, I am a big advocate for keeping supplements unregulated

because I think if they regulated, it would destroy the whole market forum. We would have way less variety and all that stuff. But that also places more responsibility on the consumer. And I tell you what, you can look them up. Look at all of the independent research that's gone into some of these companies. Like there was one study where they went and tested 12 brands.

I think it was 12 from Target. So I went and tested 12 of them. I think one of them had what they said and tested 12 brands. I think it was 12 from Target. So I went and tested 12 on them. I think one of them had what they said they had in it. The rest were all garbage. So you're looking at 90% of them were complete garbage. Some of them had stuff in there that they couldn't even identify. Then there's supplement companies that got in big trouble

because they sold supplements with pharmaceuticals in them. Yeah. Oh, so this has happened to athletes where they get popped for certain types of illegal substances, but we're because they were mixing it all within the same place, like it was getting trace remnants of those within, you know, the proteins, the pre-workouts, and they would get like, illegal stimulants in there and other things. So it's like, yeah, you just really got to be conscious

of how the company operates and how clearly they test. Next question is from Randomly, Randi. How much is too much for trigger or focus sessions? Okay. First to find the difference between the two. Yeah, so, okay. So trigger sessions are found in our program, maps and a ball, like focus sessions are found in our program, abs and a ball, like focus

sessions are found in our program, abs, aesthetic. So, people who don't have those programs, what a trigger session is, is on the days off. So, you're not going to the gym today, it's a day off. Essentially, a trigger session would be a five to eight minute light band workout, where you can focus on target body parts, or it, you know, four or five exercises, different body parts. And the goal is to get a little bit of a pump and to kind of feel the muscles working a little bit.

And you do those maybe two or three times a day on your off day. So five minutes, the morning, five minutes after the afternoon, five minutes at night, and you get this little pump. And what it does is the theory is it maintains the muscle building signal that you sent with your hard workouts. And the evidence, which is anecdotal, we don't have studies on this yet, but actually there are studies that support it, but not specifically for trigger sessions.

But what people are saying is it does, it builds more muscle, I recover faster, and it's something that's very valuable. So that's a trigger session. Focus session is a little more intense. It's focused on a body part, that's a lagging body part, and it's also on a quote unquote, off day. So if today's an off day, and I have my calves

or my glutes are weak, I go to the gym, and I typically pick two or three isolation exercises or machines, and I work that muscle, and the intensity's higher with that than a trigger session, but it's not like your normal high intensity workout. So the question is how much is too much? Well, if your normal workout is a 10 in terms of intensity, a trigger session is like a three, okay?

A focus session would be like a six, probably like a six or seven. So just to give you an idea of how intense they should feel, if you do trigger sessions, and it's a seven or eight eight and you're doing them several times a day on your off day, you're gonna over train. And if you do a focus session at a 10 like you do normal workouts, you're gonna over train. So it's very important to maintain that kind of lower intensity with them, to make them, you know, really work. To add to that, I would say that I would say trigger sessions and focus sessions are very different. Trigger sessions, I think, are them more purely as a way to speed up recovery.

I have to recover. That's all I'm doing. It's like, I almost put it in the category of me stretching, like it's on that level of intensity. I am not, it's not intense at all. I'm not even breaking a sweat. It's literally just pumping some blood into the muscle with some rubber bands.

I never use dumbbells. I sometimes use body weight, but even rarely body weight, because body weight can be even more than enough. So it's a real, real light pump. And I think of that. A focus session is a workout in the gym, but we're just picking exercises that are isolation cable machines, right?

Try set push downs, cable curls, you know, laterals. Like these very light type of movements, but I'm getting after it, but- Like what other people call finisher, right? Oh, very good. Yeah, yeah, kind of like that. Like a bunch of finisher exercises on a day. So like what would a chest focus session look like, for example?

Like a cable fly would be that. Yeah, cable fly would be a great focus day. So, and a cable fly can be pretty intense, so that's why I don't like using like intense, because you can get after it, but it's not gonna do as much damage as a barbell bench press. So, but it's still a workout.

I mean, when I'm doing focus sessions, I will probably get a little bit of a sweat still. I'm definitely gonna get a massive pump. I'm gonna feel burning in the muscles. Like, it's a workout. You're picking less intense exercise. That's right. I'm not doing any heavy barbell lifting, I'm not doing a compound list. We're doing all the the machines and the

cables. Right. That's what I'm doing. I'm still getting after it, but I'm doing machines, cables, isolation type movements. It is a workout where trigger sessions that where people mess up. I think there's more on trigger sessions. I think people over apply intensity on our trigger sessions. I think they're you're supposed to do these other, like it's a workout, it's not. Where focus sessions is more like that. And I'll say this, like doing those properly, either trigger sessions or focus sessions,

you will notice within a week or two, they do add value to your workout. They really do, they don't sound like it, when you hear a low intensity, like I'll just skip it or whatever, try it out, be consistent for a week or two. You'll notice a difference within that week or two because they do make that that big of a difference. Next question is from Cole Row. Is there a superior form of cardio? For example, would

you be better to run, do hit or just go ham on a salt bite. I can't answer those questions. I don't know what you're after. There are superior forms of cardio depending on the goals. Against the specificity. Yeah. What are you trying to accomplish? What type of endurance are you trying to achieve? Like, is this going towards a sport?

Is this just going towards your lifestyle and like something that you enjoy? Or body composition. Or body composition. Though those are all different goals. Yeah, I'll say this, obviously it depends on the person's goals and all of that. But I'm talking, if I'm talking about overall general activity, health, you know, also the ability to maintain consistency. So it's got to be somewhat

convenient. So like all those in all together together walking would be the one that I, that's the one I recommended the most to most people. Now, now remember, I trained everyday average people for the most part. So for general health, you're right. Yeah, but I mean, this, this is what, I mean, here's it, anytime somebody asks, what's the best exercise for this or what's the best mode

of cardio for, it's like like the answer should as a good Trainor should always say it depends because it totally depends on what you've been currently doing and what your your specific goal is because all the Examples this person gives the the head they're going ham on the assault assault or running like all those things you could use for different different Different goals. Yeah based off of what you what you're trying to call or based off of what you were currently doing. So you may have a goal and I may say like let's say it's body composition but you have already been doing hit for the last three weeks and you go I want to know what the best one is and maybe I was going to say hit but then I found out you've been doing hit for the last three weeks that no longer is for body composition because your body's adapted to that already.

Or maybe your body's already on the brink of over-training and you're stressed, and I'm not gonna have you do hit because of that. I'm like, oh, you're gonna do some light walking because you need something that's more recuperative. It's like going to the doctor and without saying anything else, but hey, Doc, what's the best medicine for me? Could you imagine a doctor's throw a medicine?

You're like, here you go, try this, you know, this'll work for you. How do you know, right? You have to know what you're, it's all based off those things. The superior form for you is what's gonna be the superior form for you and maybe not somebody else. I do find it helpful if people,

well, I guess like what we like to talk about, and people think that we're against cardio for some reason just because it's always addressing body fat composition. That's the go to button for a lot of people to just, all of a sudden, now I'm just going to increase cardiovascular work to be able to affect my composition. But one thing that I think people always overlook neat and they always overlook the amount of steps per day and the overall activity. What matters is your overall activity at the end of the day. And so, especially if it's a composition goal,

if you're not considering that, you're not tracking that, like you're doing yourself a disadvantage. Yeah, I got in my best health overall, what I mean by that, it's just feeling good, good quality life comes from when I add about three walks a day, breakfast like morning, afternoon and evening, for about 15, 20 minutes each time.

I just feel the best doing that. Now it's not the best form of cardio for me for like athletic performance, but when it comes to just general, like I feel good, that one tends to work the best. And that's usually what I would recommend to most people, because most people that I would train were not interested in high intensity athletic performance.

They were just in fat loss, of course, but that was like diet and strength training. But they were just, you know, I wanna be healthy, I wanna feel good. Well, that's also because what you're doing is you're also calculating or factoring in consistency. Totally, 100%. So you're not just you're also calculating or factoring in consistency. Totally, 100%.

You're not just thinking about what's the best mode that's gonna burn the most calories or just get this to the fastest. It's easy to stay consistent. And what's gonna get into their goal of the fastest, you're also thinking longevity of like, okay, if I tell this client, you know, who never does hit cardio that, hey,

do hit every day, you know, for the next three weeks and we're gonna get in the best shape, like, okay, well, sure, maybe I hope her, or him, get in better shape between now and then, but like long-term, what happens if that? Does that person keep it up? Versus, could I convince this client that getting up, you know, a half hour earlier every day before work and taking a nice half hour walk

and then ending their day every day with another half hour walk, you know, at the end of the night with their spouse, or something like that walk and then ending their day every day with another half hour walk at the end of the night with their spouse or something like that. And then that becomes a lifelong thing that they do forever. I'm doing such a better service to that person for body composition, for overall health, for everything by convincing to do that mode.

Even though in a, again, this is why I always get on the whole, like when people love the tout studies, a six week study,, you're gonna lose. A six week study of comparing someone doing hit everyday to somebody who gets, you get them to walk. Well, the hit one's gonna show greater fat loss or better muscle performance, or it's, you're gonna see better, but you can't just stop there.

You have to think about this over in a period of- Your life is longer than six weeks. Yeah, you know, you gotta think about this way, right? So like, you gotta think beyond six weeks, this is forever, what's gonna work? I want what's gonna work for me long term. Not what's gonna, and let's have a specific goal. Like if I'm gonna go, you know, compete in something

12 weeks from now, we add out to 12 week timeframe. Otherwise, the timeframe is forever. And, you know, I hope to live a very long time. Look, if you like the show, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out our guides. We have free guides, a bunch of them, that you can download and learn from, and it's our way of giving back to our audience.

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