Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1873: The Difference Between Yoga & Mobility, How to Eat & Train on Vacation, the Best Thing You Can Do Between Sets & More

Episode Date: August 5, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: The BEST healthcare i...n the world is FREE! (2:58) Sal clarifies his statement on nicotine and why vaping is a problem. (9:23) The things we did in the past and their lingering effects as we age. (16:22) Why Mind Pump works with Caldera Lab. (20:42) Is fluoride dangerous? (25:40) Why is protein being demonized? (28:37) Mind Pump loves Mike Matthews. (30:25) Why it’s important to have skepticism. (32:06) Does having tattoos impede your ability to sweat? (36:39) So, you say you want a Ring? (40:10) Science once again proves the mind-muscle connection. (43:08) #Quah question #1 - What are some tips for getting better at barbell squats when you have long legs/femurs? (47:11) #Quah question #2 - Can yin yoga be used as mobility training or is it different? (53:26) #Quah question #3 - How do you guys approach training and nutrition on vacation when not actively cutting or bulking? (59:07) #Quah question #4 - What are some of the best uses of your time when taking long breaks between sets? (1:05:10) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** August Special: TOP SELLING PROGRAMS COMBINED FOR ONLY $99.99! FDA to seek drastic cut in cigarettes' nicotine content E-cigarettes: Facts, stats and regulations Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Science | Caldera + Lab FDA Authority Over Cosmetics: How Cosmetics Are Not FDA-Approved, but Are FDA-Regulated Enhancement of aluminum digestive absorption by fluoride in rats Eating Too Much Protein Makes Pee a Problem Pollutant in the U.S. CDC Worked Hand In Hand With Big Tech To Control The COVID Narrative, Emails Show Skin tattooing impairs sweating during passive whole body heating Police Can Access Your Ring Camera Footage Without a Warrant Science Proves the Mind-Muscle Connection Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** MAPS Prime Pro Webinar @mindpumpadam Squat Mobility Primer The BEST Single Leg Exercise You Are Not Doing! (TWO VARIATIONS) - Mind Pump TV MAPS Prime Webinar Is Yoga Effective for Improving Mobility? - Mind Pump Blog Which is Best - Mobility or Stretching? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1612: Everything You Need To Know About Sets, Reps & Rest Periods Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Paul Saladino, MD (@CarnivoreMD)  Twitter Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Patrick Bet-David (@patrickbetdavid)  Instagram Paul Carter (@liftrunbang)  Instagram Ben Patrick (@kneesovertoesguy)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Right, in today's episode, we answered listeners questions, but this was after a 45 minute introductory conversation. We talked about fitness or lives, current events, studies and much more. By the way, you could check the show notes for timestamps.
Starting point is 00:00:32 If you want to click on them to fast forward to your favorite part. Also, if you want to ask a question that we can answer on an episode like this one, go to Instagram at MindPupMedia. And each Sunday, we post a qua meme. That's QUAH. So we post that on Sunday. Underneath post your question, if we like it, we'll pick it and you'll hear us talk about it here
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Starting point is 00:02:49 Let's see, it's mapsogust.com for the August special, which ends the 14th, so go check it out. All right, here comes the show. All right, check this out. The best healthcare in the world in terms of effectiveness is free. It doesn't cost you a dime. I like that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yes. You know, if you and I was gonna sound silly and obvious, but boy, I tell you, the data is super crystal clear on this. Okay. Nothing, there's in a drug, there's an combination of drugs, there's in a medical procedure or a combination of all of those things that comes close to the chronic disease,
Starting point is 00:03:27 fighting effects, the anti-cancer effects, the heart disease, fighting effects of simply exercising and eating right. You do those things and you crush everything and it doesn't cost anything of anything, it actually saves you money because of the cost of health. You need your own advocate for health and being preventative about it.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I mean, nobody likes to talk about the preventative measures to maintain this healthy thriving body, but that's like the most effective approach that you can have hands down. Yeah. That's the irony of that statement is that, a lot of people believe that healthcare should be free and it's a right that everybody should have that and the truth is it yeah, it is and
Starting point is 00:04:20 We all have it and it's your choice to make those decisions and make those and the thing is that everybody wants to wait Until they have a condition or they they got check engine lights come on on. And then they want the, okay, the free health care, it's like, well, it was free the 10 years before that. You could have done something about it by making better choices. And I know it's a tough pill to swallow for a lot of people, but it's the truth. It's the only pill you should swallow.
Starting point is 00:04:40 What's the, what's the, what's the, you don't even need pills. Yeah, exactly, what's that saying? I'm telling you all about, what's the, what's the, you need pills? Yeah, exactly. What's that saying? I don't know. Man, you know, mankind, they sacrifice their health to gain wealth and then they sacrifice their wealth to gain back their health. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Isn't that the story? It's the conendrum, right? That we tend to do. And you know, what's funny is, I know we're selling it in terms of like health and later on, you're not going to have heart disease at nearly the same rates and it's great for anti-cancer effects and chronic disease effects. But here's the other part of this.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's not just preventative later on, it also improves the quality of your life now, right now. So think about it this way. So for anybody watching this right now, think of everything you do in your in your daily life, everything, good, bad, fun, hard, stressful, whatever. Now imagine yourself with better fitness and health doing all of those things. Has it improved? All those things? Yes. Everything. I don't care what you're talking about. Raising your kids, your job, sleeping, sex, watching a movie.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like I don't care what it is, a more fit, healthy version of you makes it. All of those things much better. So it's a dramatic, again, and I'll say this as well. There's nothing that'll improve the quality of your life in its entirety like doing those things. So it's not just about preventing disease, it's also about just living better right now.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's pretty crazy. Yeah, I know, I probably pissed some people off saying what I just said because I understand that there's things that are hereditary and that people couldn't avoid, right? And you know, what about them? But to your point right there is that, I mean, by taking care of yourself, even if you were destined to get something in the future
Starting point is 00:06:26 because it was passed down to you or whatever the quality of your life would still be dramatically improved even with that condition. Not to mention, that is not a majority of what overwhelms our healthcare right now. Our healthcare system is overwhelmed with a lot of preventable things that are happening. It's chronic disease.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah. It's the chronic disease. Yeah. It's the chronic disease. You look at the cost of healthcare. By the way, I don't care if it's single-payer healthcare, like you live in Europe, and you pay high taxes in order to pay for this healthcare system, or you have this weird, unholy combination of capitalism and government intervention here in the US, or whatever. The cost is still the cost.
Starting point is 00:07:03 If you look at the cost, where a majority of the cost goes, it's the last like 10 to 15 years of life. It's that chronic disease treating, I gotta take these pills to do this, and I gotta go get another stint in my heart, and I gotta go do this other thing, and I got the chemo, and I survived,
Starting point is 00:07:21 and then I got, I got, it came back again. It's that last bit that costs so much damn money and so much of it is preventable. And then of course, there's things like you said, Adam, that are not predictable, either genetic issues or I don't know, you're walking across the street, drunk driver hits you with their car or something, you fall down on accident,
Starting point is 00:07:41 you're painting your house and you fall off a ladder. Imagine yourself handling those things in a more or less healthy version of yourself. So you're just, you're better suited just because you're more fit and healthy. Mental health is one that's interesting to me because for a long time we would have never considered being more physically healthy, contributing to better. We separated those forever. We did, but the studies are very clear on this, just mild to moderate depression, which is the most common forms of depression. Exercise is as effective or more effective.
Starting point is 00:08:14 When you follow studies, the longer you follow the studies, the more effective exercise is for treating those things. Why? You don't get receptor down regulation. Like you take a medication, your body starts to adapt. And those adaptations make those medications, tend to make them less effective, or you got to change medications. Exercise, if you do it right, it's effectiveness in terms of health improves over time. So it's just one of those things. And if you could
Starting point is 00:08:42 sell a pill that did everything that proper exercise nutrition did, oh my God. I mean, you moved, I mean, think about how much better your outlook is on life and like your relationships with people and just your interactions are when you feel good. If I'm a state where I'm in pain, I'm constantly inflamed, and I'm not really motivated to move around, I'm not really wanting to get up and hang out with my friends.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't want to have these kind of interactions that I would have if I have a healthy, able body, but it's a mood elevator. There's just so many effects to maintaining this, this healthy body that, you know, transcend beyond just like me looking fit in health, speaking of healthy things that we can do. So what were you doing recommending cigarettes to kids? What? What? What the hell's gonna bring that up? What did this happen?
Starting point is 00:09:31 We got an angry message, you know? Yeah, I got an address list. I got it, I got an email. I didn't personally say it. And I normally don't actually even bother you guys with this, right? Katrina every once in a while, it'll wake it's, first it hits Cassie, Cassie then normally,
Starting point is 00:09:44 if it's like a big deal or something like that, or something like she doesn't know how to respond, she'll then forward it up to Katrina. And then Katrina sometimes will involve me and say, what do you think about this? And she read me this long old email that someone said, this lady was very pissed, right? Referred to us as a bunch of bros and then said that,
Starting point is 00:10:06 what were we doing promoting nicotine to, I think she even referenced young people as healthy. And I thought, I said, what is she talking about? I said, when did we even talk about, I couldn't even recall, it's a long, we talked about nicotine a long, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Remember when it was really popular, we were hanging out. And it's neutropic effects. Yeah, yeah. So there Remember when it was really popular, we were hanging in it. It's a neutropic effect. Yeah, yeah. So there's a lot of guys over. I remember at the on-it crew dudes where like put the nicotine packets in their lip.
Starting point is 00:10:31 That's well known by the way. Yeah, but we would never be like, hey kids. Yeah, I mean, that was like the last time I talked about it. She goes, no, it was like a super recent episode. And so I actually asked Andrew, I'm like, could you pull it up and tell me what was said? I said, I imagine it was Sal. So I'm sure he said something related to nicotine.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And it was, but I don't recall him recommending people. And then that's what it was. There was a clip where we were talking about the negative effects of cigarettes. And you made, you said, it's not nicotine. That's the negative thing. And there was literally like the statement you said. Like that was, that was really it. So all our chemicals involved in the matter. Yeah, that was it. That was really it. All our chemicals involved.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, we were talking about cigarettes. Yeah, we were talking about cigarettes. How they were reducing. There was a law that they're passing the regulation that's going to cut the nicotine amount in cigarettes drastically down or make it a limit. Like they're currently going to be so much nicotine. Yeah, so we were speculating on what would happen.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And yeah, so what I was saying is, you're just people are just gonna smoke more cigarettes to get the same amount of nicotine, which is far more dangerous because nicotine itself really isn't, now it's a, it's got addictive properties, okay? So that's true. And in some cases nicotine can be inflammatory
Starting point is 00:11:37 and in some cases it can go, but really nicotine, of all the things that are in cigarettes and nicotine is the safest thing, that's not the bad thing for you, it's all the other stuff that's in the cigarette. So now you're going to make people smoke more cigarettes. You say, man, nicotine, you're going to cause more problems.
Starting point is 00:11:50 That was my point. Yeah. No, I thought your point was to do with kids. I thought your point was completely fine. And even I mean, but that what you just said, I think it'll probably even piss this person off again, because I think she that we were, you were downplaying the negative effects of nicotine. And I you didn't,'t I mean you didn't fear monger everybody around no It's addictive so you know any addictive type proper you know product or compound can potentially be negative just from the behavior Effects of it right especially when it's paired with lighting paper on fire and inhaling
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah, you take too much ibuprofen your fuck. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we go down that rabbit hole's my only point, right? Yes. Like compounds. Yes, caffeine's addictive too. Very addictive. Anybody who's ever tried to stop drinking coffee will tell you. But nicotine by itself, believe it or not, there may be some negatives. There's also some positives.
Starting point is 00:12:40 nicotine has been shown to help with preventing dementia. There may be some brain health effects. There's some neurotropic effects. That's not the problem in cigarettes. Now, that's the part that brings people back. It's the feel good from the nicotine. But the negative stuff from cigarettes is all the tar and the carcinogens that you're inhaling when you burn plants and then suck them into your lungs.
Starting point is 00:13:01 So when you limit the nicotine, just like if I made every cup of coffee limited to 20 milligrams of caffeine, people would just drink three, four cups of coffee to get this in effect. Now people are gonna smoke cigarettes to get the same effect. And so that would be awesome. Do you think that we are smoking more or less
Starting point is 00:13:18 for the same as a population? And before you answer quickly, because I know you'll say less because we saw a huge decrease in cigarettes over the last decade or so. But we've also seen the introduction of vaping and the, you know, marijuana becoming popular now. So you want to count all of that? Yeah. So you think as a whole, as it shifted a bit. Yeah. Sometimes I don't know if I'm convinced that we've really improved generally. I think we've just we've've subbed out the drop in cigarette smokers
Starting point is 00:13:47 and we've now transferred that percentage or that number of people are now, because I see vaping, I feel like I see more vaping and the combination of vaping and cigarettes than I saw of just purely people smoking that's growing. It's growing. Okay, so we have to break each one down. We know that we know the negative effects of cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:14:08 That's dropped considerably. Vaping wasn't a thing until relatively recently where that started to grow. Yeah, find me some vaping stats, though. But vaping has its own risks, not because of the nicotine again, but rather you're inhaling the oil there. Other solvents and things in the vaping, and there's not a lot of studies to show what this could potentially do. Anytime you breathe something in into your lungs,
Starting point is 00:14:30 you could cause problems. And in vape cartridges and stuff, they tend to have, like I said, solvents and chemicals. And who knows if the heat generated by the vape is causing some of the plastics to release chemicals. And so there's a lot of unknown there. It's also addictive. So your kid isn't smoking, but now they're plastics to release chemicals. And so there's a lot of unknown there. It's also addictive. So your kid isn't smoking, but now they're addicted to vaping.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So there's always, you know, those dysfunctional. And the idea that it's, you know, quote unquote, healthier for you or better for you than also probably promotes you doing even more. That could be it too, yeah. It's kind of like the whole diet soda versus regular sodas because you know there's no calories attached to it. So you end up drinking six of them a day,
Starting point is 00:15:04 whereas if you were drinking regular coke, you just have ones. Marijuana use has gone up for sure in certain populations from negative effects. Marijuana has some negative effects. Lung cancer is not one of them. It hasn't been shown to cause lung cancer, although it's full of carcinogens, the smoke is, but the speculation is the anti-cancer effects of the cannabinoids. It's like could net zero.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah, so it's like you're not really getting cancer and your lungs from it because of those, but there's other negative effects. What does that say, Doug? Well, there's a bunch of stats here regarding vaping in 2020, 19.6% of high school students and 4.7% of middle school students used e cigarettes but that's a big drop from the prior year. What year was it? 1920 so that's as recent. A couple years ago. Yeah. Okay so it went up and then it went back down. Back down. You mean it went down when there was nobody at school?
Starting point is 00:15:56 That's probably partly that. Yeah. Nobody's watching. That makes a lot of sense actually. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. They're like oh huge reduction in kids smoking at school. School's closed. Huge speakers around. It's interesting. E. liquids contain 60 chemical compounds.
Starting point is 00:16:11 There you go. E. cigarettes contain 47. Yeah, see. That's and there's a lot of those unknown. Like we don't know what they're causing and I would venture to say, probably not good. You want to talk about breathing things in. So I was with my dad the other day, and I told you guys, you just got over COVID,
Starting point is 00:16:27 but he still has this like lingering cough. And he goes, it's so weird, so I was, when I get sick, it always attacks my lungs. Now, my dad has worked in construction and with his hands, you know, and that kind of worked his entire life. Never wore, I mean, especially in Sicily as a kid. Never wore, you know. Sood dust, asbest kid. Never wore sawdust, asbestos,
Starting point is 00:16:46 he's just breathing all times. Just even the cement and the thin set and the glue and the whatever, the lime, you know, the powder, I mean, when I used to help him as a kid, I would breathe that shit in, nobody would warn anything. So I was telling him about that and he goes, oh, he goes, I guarantee you.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So he had his uncle passed away from lung cancer in his mid-70s, never smoked. And the doctors were like, oh, it's because you worked with his bestos. When my dad was a kid, he worked in his bestos factory, right? Or was it the same with his bestos? Oh, that's his bestos, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Which one am I saying it right? Or whatever. He worked where they would make these big tubes and these fireproof, whatever. And now he wasn't in the factory factory, but he would use them when he'd make them. And every once in a while they'd have to cut one and a half and it would create a dust.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And he goes, yeah, nobody did anything. We didn't cover our face. Then he told me about this factory in this town in Sicily by where he grew up where they were like the top factory for making these products. And because they're making it, the dust is everywhere. And he goes, all of a sudden, you know, the owner, the workers there, started getting lung cancers and diseases, making it the dust is everywhere. And he goes all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:17:46 the owner, the workers there, started getting lung cancers and diseases, then their spouses, then their kids, because they would come home with all the powder on their clothes, and the wives would wash the clothes, and the powder, and he goes, they shut everything down, and he goes, this town became a total ghost town because of it. He goes, but we didn't even know.
Starting point is 00:18:01 See, there's so much back then, they didn't know anything about these chemicals. Like my grandpa died at early death, and I still, they were attributing it to like high cholesterol, because he had a heart attack, but I was like, there's something else there. And it wasn't his diet and, you know, going back and thinking about it,
Starting point is 00:18:17 he worked at like a chemical plant. And it was like for a pesticide, you know, company. And we know now like all of the warnings and things that we've found from glyphosate or any of these type of like insecticides and just like my brain just keeps, I get hung up there because it's like, how much do we really know from a lot of these things
Starting point is 00:18:39 back in the day that infected us till now? What about the stuff now? Yeah, we're doing now. What do you think is worse? You think breathing in something, or potentially, I mean, what skincare and makeup stuff was just like 20 years ago where you're rubbing chemicals on your face every single day, once or twice a day, you think, they get tested more at least. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:00 They do. They have to go through different, more vigorous. I'm just not perfect testing. But has it always been that way or is that like new? Oh really? They do. They have to go through different, more vigorous, and it's just not perfect testing, but. Has it always been that way or is that like new? Like, cause it's been more that way than not. I don't know what it looks like now. I know now when you work with compounds that you may inhale
Starting point is 00:19:16 is like if you work in construction and stuff, there's new regulations and they're much more aware because of asbestos, I think that's probably what caused it all. But for a long time, it was, it's funny. Like I said, I was talking's funny, like I said, I was talking to my dad, I said, what about the cement that you, the bags of cement,
Starting point is 00:19:29 that you guys breathe in when you open it up? And he laughs, and we're driving in his van because we were moving some couches, and we get to the house, he had a bag in the back. And he goes, what's that right? And his big ass cancer's warning sign on it. And he starts laughing, he goes, it's been on the back!
Starting point is 00:19:43 But we breathe in, and nobody says that. So what do's been on the back here. Are we breathing it in? Nobody says that. So what do you think is worse? Do you think the breathing ends something like that? Or do you think skincare type stuff that you apply once or twice a day every single day? What do you think is? Depends on what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Have you ever heard of the women that got cancer? There were these watches that were made for a long time, and they would put radioactive material on the Our hands on the watch. I heard about that because they would glow I don't remember it was called and they actually and all these women they would use little paint brushes to paint the watches Use their tongue create a point. Yeah, and all got cancer. Yeah, they all got cancer later on I remember like that happened with licking envelopes a long time ago too I thought something happened on those lines something like that happen with licking envelopes a long time ago too, I thought something happened
Starting point is 00:20:25 on those lines, something like that. I don't know. I know my mom used to tell me that when she was a kid, they would tell the kids, like the urban legends were, they'll put acid on the envelope. Don't lick it, you're gonna go and trim it. But yeah, skincare stuff is a big one. And a lot of the stuff we put on our skin,
Starting point is 00:20:39 we don't really even pay attention to. One of the reasons why we work with Caldera is that everything that have in there is natural. There isn't synthetic chemicals and weird stuff and everything's got clinical studies and it's been around for a long time and it's been used for a long time. Look at your skincare stuff, read the back.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Like how much of that has been tested? It's a sponge, man. It's a huge organ. Well, are they applying chemicals on? Are they regulated like supplements where it's very... Supplements aren't regulated? No, that's why I mean. That's why I mean what?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Are they not regulated really? Like it's like, you know, could you buy a skincare thing and it say, oh, this, this, and this is in there and it's like, yeah, none of that shit's in there. Oh, no, they're regulated. They are. Yeah, they are regulated. You know, it's not very regulated.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So how weird is that? That skincare is regulated, but then supplements are not. Yeah, I know. I don't know if I'm pro, I'm not really pro regulating supplements either though, because I know what happens when they do that in these markets. It's not necessarily a...
Starting point is 00:21:36 No, I don't think any of us are. I just find that interesting that something that you would ingest and you would take, like a pill or a powder, they're not regulated, but then there's, if you put a cream on your face, that's more regulated. I believe in 1994, there was an assoupliment act or something, maybe Doug can look it up, that made it so that supplements could be sold so long as they make no medical claims without having to go through and be regulated by FDA.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So long as it's not like toxic or hurting anybody, so you can still be liable. But I can't remember what I want to say, it was an act in 1984 to supplement freedom act, or I don't know, maybe I'm making that up, maybe you could find it. So I wonder why skin care can't fall into the same category of supplementation. Oh, it was. 1984 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. So prohibit dietary supplement manufacturers and distributors for making false claims, such as natural and therapeutic, however, it also regulates them differently than, like, drugs and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So it's wide open in the sense. Can you look up how beauty and skin care is regulated that I'm just curious to, like, how stringent it is? And, you know, I know Caldera, they do all kinds of, like, studies on the stuff that's inside there. If you go on their website, there's tons of studies. And it's like, you know, I know Caldera, they do all kinds of like studies on the stuff that's inside there. If you go on their website, there's tons of studies.
Starting point is 00:22:49 And is that, I would assume that's part of why the cost is higher than normal, is that they are proactively probably doing that and they don't have to technically do that? Cause yeah, I don't see that with every product out there, where you see all these crazy studies to support what's inside of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So I would say, I would think so. Yeah. What does that say, Doug? So the law does not require cosmetic products and ingredients other than color additives to have FDA approval before they go in the market. Wow. But they are FDA. But there are laws and regulations that apply to cosmetics on the market
Starting point is 00:23:22 in interstate commerce. Don't know what that means. Oh, that's weird. So I guess if you sell it, that apply to cosmetics on the market in interstate commerce. Don't know what that means. Oh, that's weird. So I guess if you sell it across state lines and it's regulated more, so if you're buying skin care, that it's only sold in your state, you might want to be careful.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Why don't you sell another state? Flag there. This stuff is great, man. I get high when I rub it on my face. Yes. Well, the FD&C Act prohibits the marketing of adulterated or misbranded cosmetics in interstate commerce. So, I mean, it's very great.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You know, it's very great. It's very great. Okay, so just to freak everybody out even more. So, here's what's weird, right? So you could have an ingredient that's been tested. By the way, when they test something, they don't test it for five or 10 years. They test it for three months, six months, whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Okay, so, because there's a difference, right? You could use something for three, six months, nothing shows up, five, 10 years later, maybe something does show up. So that's one. But then number two, there's no, they don't test combinations of things. So I could use,
Starting point is 00:24:25 I could use a product that has 50 ingredients and the combinations of these greens have never been tested. Only things that have been tested are each individual by itself. So when you combine them, is there a cumulative effect? Is there a synergistic effect? Yeah, reaction you're going to receive as a result. Yes. Like all these Zenoestrogens that have kind of estrogenic effects in the body, on their own, on the doses that are tested, maybe not, or super mild, undetectable for, you know, six month periods.
Starting point is 00:24:53 But then you've got 15 of these things in the same product that you use every single day then maybe there is. Yeah, it sounds like you do me. Yeah, it sounds like there's no level of it. I feel like it's kind of common sense. They're by themselves, and like you do me. Yeah, sounds like it's not a whole list. Well, I feel like it's kind of common sense. They're by themselves, and like you said in a study, not such a big deal, but then when you start to look at
Starting point is 00:25:12 all the places that you are, you're getting all this low level stress or insult, you know, nobody would be the receipts and then your hair product, your skin care product, what you're breathing in, or smoking, and the combined everything. Yeah, you start combining everything, and it's like, okay, we're the studies to show like, if somebody is doing all those things for weeks and months and years, how good or
Starting point is 00:25:32 bad could that potentially be? Like, there's no studies. There is no, yeah. There isn't anyone with that. I know, it's kind of weird, right? Yeah, that's why, you know, it's another one. Do you know that one thing that Alzheimer's, patients having common are typically high levels of aluminum in their system?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Yeah, and you know, it has aluminum, anti-perspirance, a lot of anti-perspirant deterrence, aluminum in them. This is why some pregnant women will avoid using anti-perspirant deterrence. You know what else makes your body retain aluminum? I just learned it the other day, fluoride. Maybe you can confirm that dog.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I don't want to be one of those fluoride. You know, fluoride. You just heard that, just fluoride from tap water. There is a viral, there's a viral TikTok thing and it's made its way to reels. I don't know who started it first but I think it's really funny. And it's like some guy starting off his day
Starting point is 00:26:20 and he's getting ready to bite into cereal. And then like another screen pops up and it's like a real popular fitness health expert or influencer that is like cereal is the worst thing you could do to start you to any like spits out the cereal. Then it goes over to make some I think it was like make some sort of like fruit and vegetable thing and then it goes over to Paul Saladino talking about how bad fruits and vegetables are. He spits that out. Then he goes over to, he goes to brush his teeth and then some doctor pops on there and
Starting point is 00:26:50 talks about how dangerous fluoride is for you. So it's a really funny little viral TikTok thing that's going on. Like every day average person experience, just any influencer telling them something. And then it's like contradicts this. It's so good because it's a great perspective. I know. Because we obviously didn't, we were inundated the same way that, you know, a 20 year old kid is today with all of these.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And they're all, what they do good is they're all, you know, either, either a pro or a pro. No, back those, there's, there are, you know. That's right, they're either credible people. I mean, you're talking about someone, a friend of ours, Paul Saladino. And I know where he's coming from when he says that But you know, it's such a cool perspective for like imagine being that 17 year old kid who's trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:27:31 What do I eat? What do I do, you know? Interesting thought because when we were growing up It was like you had standards and you had things mainly like sent from you know government or other like major institutions And it was like rock solid like this is truth and you know, the government or other like major institutions and it was like rock solid like this is truth and You know, there wasn't a lot of like competing ideas and information that like people were were diving through It was like this is just how it is and like we find out later is wrong And so now we're just in this chaotic world of information. It's like what we talk about the pendulum Yeah, it was like what on this side where it's like you said, you know, the government put it out one way,
Starting point is 00:28:06 the only way and then we find out later, okay, that's a bunch of bullshit, that's not true. And then now we get inundated with like every 15 seconds a TikTok video telling you what you should or shouldn't do. And so it's like, what do I do? It's funny because I like more information. I like having to sift through. Most people don't.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Most people, just like when you hire a client, or when I want a client, I would do it. Oh, you're our first and yet, no. They just want the simple, give it to me in like a real digestible form. Yeah, no, so, so, Flora does increase the absorption of aluminum in your system, so I wasn't wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Cool, right, so, speaking of weird information, I hate how much everything has become politicized these days, including science, there's a publication called Scientific American. I love them, but recently I'm reading some of their stuff and it's just making me shake my head. So I'll read you the title of this article. I sent it to you guys today, in fact.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read in my entire life. Here's the title. Eating too much protein makes pee, so you're you're in a problem pollutant in the US. So I don't know if you guys need this or not. You called that. If you eat too much protein, you're you're harming the
Starting point is 00:29:12 environment with your heart. You call that you'd have to go back to that clip. I mean, that goes all the way back to our previous studio, I think when you when you said that that protein would be yeah, we were speculating on the future of the fitness industry industry what would be next to be demonized and you did say protein. I guess protein, but for different reasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I thought it'd be protein because we were going down the list of macronutrients, fats, carbs, and well, well, nexus protein, but, you know, I was right, but not because of that. It was because, this is, so that's harm in our environment. That's what I'm saying. It's political now. It's insane. How can we, and why is it political? Because there's definitely a political power, I should say,
Starting point is 00:29:51 in getting people to not eat animal products. There's definitely a divide right now. And so protein being connected to that. So now they're going to, they're going to need a nice protein. Wow. Life of save is in everything. Birth control is in our tap water. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:06 But my piece bag is I mean protein. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right. Gotcha. Again, though, just imagine being a young kid who's like into health and fitness and you're trying to sift through all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Like what, what do I believe? What's the worst? Like, I was just on, I was on Mike Matthews podcast. So Mike Matthews found her. I'm sure there's a few rants. I walked in. They were recording. And I knew he was recorded with Mike. So I picked my head over and I could tell they were like in deep conversation. Like Mike was going on a ranch or whatever. And then I sat down and put the headphones so I could listen. And
Starting point is 00:30:44 they were already like, going down the conspiracy round the whole dude. I was like, oh my God. I love Mike, one of the smartest guys in our space, he's the founder of Legion, so one of our supplement sponsors, great products, right? Great friend too. Super smart guy, super smart guy.
Starting point is 00:31:00 He's one of those people that will read something and remember it forever and him and I. A lot of integrity too, you know? That's part of why we work with Legion and him is because the guy operates from a really, really good plug. Well, he won us over when we talked to him about the supplement industry and how honest he was about the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Well, it was honest business guys like we've met. Yeah, and he was like, look, I could charge less, but then I'd have to do this and I'd get my products from here and here's why I don't. And we were like, oh my God, you know, that makes sense. So my margins are smaller, but then I'd have to do this and I'd get my products from here and here's why I don't. And we were like, oh my God, that makes sense. So my margins are smaller, but now my products have what they say they do.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And then he would show us 30 party testing. This was way before we even talked about working together, just very honest guy, but yeah, he was going off and we were talking about, I guess there was this, like Operation Trust in the Soviet Union. I had the truth. I think it was. The truth it was. Yeah, the goal was to basically put out, just confuse the shit out of people to the point where they just have to sit back
Starting point is 00:31:54 and I got to trust what you guys, I don't know, I don't know what to say, I don't know what to think. So I'm just gonna wait for you guys to tell me. And you're telling me the steps that they took and I'm like, oh my gosh, that sounds very parallel. That sounds very speaking of which, you guys see what just came out, that the CDC worked with social media companies to censor COVID vaccine, what they said, disinformation during the whole pandemic.
Starting point is 00:32:19 So that CDC actually went, the Department of Justice, approved this. Sorry, the DOJ, the department of justice. Yes, it's, it's, because I mean, this was speculation. We kind of knew that, right? This was conspiracy, this was all those things because I mean, unfortunately, like, if you have that kind of, you know, skepticism,
Starting point is 00:32:39 it's like, no, let's shut down any of your skepticism, like any thoughts in that direction because we have to push this. It says right here, so this is a trove of internal communications obtained by American, America first legal, it was a CDC, sorry, CDC, regular officials regularly communicated with personnel at Twitter, Facebook, and Google
Starting point is 00:32:58 over vaccine misinformation. At various times, CDC officials would flag specific posts by users on social media platforms as example posts. And basically they said, hey, you guys, all you guys, this is, this is okay, this is not what's okay. And they worked with them and agreed. So, you know, all the speculation of like,
Starting point is 00:33:17 all these people getting blocked and all this, so I can't even say this and what's going on. I mean, that's true. Now, how do they get, like, what are the laws that even exist anymore in that regard? In terms of that, but they can't, you can't do it. Unlawful. Well, they can't, well, not with a private company
Starting point is 00:33:33 like that either, right? I mean, it's their choice to send, technically, Instagram and those platforms, so they just base enough like an emergency act and so it's absolves them of, yeah. Yes, after crimes that commit. After September 11th We passed acts like that laws like that where if they consider it a threat to national security
Starting point is 00:33:51 Which is a very broad yeah category that they can go in the government can go and regulate these things And they can also tell you that you can't tell anybody So they could go in they could tell you if they think it's national, and there's no oversight in the sense that there's no judge, trial, jury, no warrant, and they could tell you, you can say this, you can't say that, by the way, you can't tell anybody we told you this, and if you go against what we say, here's all the potential penalties and issues. I mean, it's just screams, why it's important to have skepticism. Yeah. Right? Like, when you see shenanigans, if you feel shenanigans, obviously there might be something
Starting point is 00:34:27 there. I know. It's crazy. It's such a weird, weird dance because you got to think that part of that was, that was done in Obama, right? No, no, no. Oh, you mean after September 11th? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That was Bush. Oh, it was Bush. Yeah. Okay. You got to think that like part of that was that the process to be able to prosecute somebody was so took so long that potentially other bad things could happen. I know. I mean, but there's no evidence of that ever.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's baloney complete baloney. That's not true. It was it was a take advantage of a situation and pass things that give us more power and less. You know, look, look, it's in, it's always that it is. It's in every level. Look, it's inconvenient. If you're, I feel like it's always that.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And if I can tie it to, if I can justify it with some sort of means, then it's, it's all green light. Yeah. It's like, if I, if this attached it to Christ, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm part of the government, it's like, oh, we can, we can gain more power and, and more potential money by creating more departments. You ever see how they, you ever see how they spend the bill?
Starting point is 00:35:30 And we can justify where people will go, oh, that makes sense. I think they've got into every war. If you go back in history, just look at like what started the war? Yeah. Most of the time, it's something that wasn't even true. A lot of times.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And yeah, and look at the spending bills. They'll pass the spending bill. And what's attached to it is all this other stuff. And sometimes these bills are so big, they'll give them to a senator. And they'll be like, we need to pass this now. People need money now. We need this help right now.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And they're like, I can't read all this. They can pass it anyway. Patrick Bette, David, just did a clip on his Instagram. I thought was really good that any of you was talking about, you know, the most ideal perfect candidate for our country to get us out of this situation or move us in the right direction. And he went over all the list of things that they would have to do as far as the shrinking
Starting point is 00:36:14 government and cutting this out and nobody is going to vote for that. I know. Literally you could not campaign on that. Like the perfect man or woman to take us in the right direction, the perfect situation, economically, socially, all those things, what they would have to campaign on in order to win. They couldn't campaign on that. Brute will work.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Isn't that crazy? I think that. I know, it's so funny. Yeah, that's where we're at. All right, I'm going to take us in another direction. I just read an interesting study on tattoos that this is really fascinating to me. So, you know your body, how important your body's ability to sweat is for your health, right? Have you guys ever worked with anybody
Starting point is 00:36:50 who had a disorder where they didn't sweat? Yeah, I forget what it's called. There's a name for it, but I haven't worked with it. So, you had, yeah, yeah, we're in a client. Really dangerous. Yeah, no, actually that same client, she almost passed out one time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So, and I was a very young trainer at the time. I actually don't even think I knew that she had it up until this point. And I was using, you know, like how she was sweating, or in this case, the lack of it, that I wasn't pushing hard enough. And I kept increasing the intensity, increasing the intensity.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's the point, she ended up just getting light-headed and having to lay down, but I was like, damn, I didn't think you were having a hard time with sweat, right, and seeing her sweating. And I'm like, we were doing a lot of... I had a client like that too, and they told me ahead of time, because I did a whole assessment or whatever, they're very dangerous. They overheat, they could die, because it's a very important thing that we sweat, right? So check this out with tattoos.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Did you know that having tattoos reduces your ability to sweat? They did studies on people with one arm, fully tattooed versus the other one, and it was like a 50% reduction in sweating. And the side that was tattooed. I'll have the next workout, I'll take a look. I was just gonna ask you, because you guys, you're right versus the other one.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, yeah, no, I've never really paid attention to that, but the next time I get a real sweat. I mean, it makes kind of sense, right? You're like damaging the... Well, yeah, you're injecting ink into your pores, right? I think it would clog it up a real sweat. I mean, it makes kind of sense, right? You're, you're, you're, you're, you're like damaging the, well, yeah, you're, you're injecting ink into your pores, right? I think it would clog it up a little bit. I don't know if it's the, I don't think it's clogging.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I think it has to do more with the, the, the nervous system and how it, or the adaptation process of your body now is becoming like something, but it's such a weird thing, right? Like, so being fully tatted, that could, that could, maybe it's closing it up, because you're, you're basically, when you're tattooing your shooting ink into these pores. pores. So maybe the body adapts and says like, oh my God, I'm
Starting point is 00:38:28 taking in this potentially harmful shit. So I'm going to I'm going to not allow it to be more. I'll read the bowl or okay, here's here. I'll read it right here. I'll get him the wall right now. Yeah. Yeah. So there's only one study. This is only one study. It's ever done it. Now everybody's like, oh shit, we gotta learn more about this. So the heavily tattooed people may be more at risk
Starting point is 00:38:49 of heat related injuries as their bodies are not able to expel heat as quickly. And it has to do the maximum sweat rate that could be attained. But there's no speculation as to why, like why or how, you know, this may be caused. So I don't know. I mean, it obviously is, it can't be that bad because if all the tattooed people were dropping like flies because of, oh, it's damaged just sweat glands within the skin.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yes, sweat glands. So it was just the actual physical damage. It could be drag in the needle. Mm-hmm. It should be. Yeah. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's weird. I know. I'll watch now. Now I would be all curious of when I work out and see if one side is sweating more than the other side. Yeah, well, I mean, it was, you know, when I was, like I said, when I had that client, I had no idea. And she's like, yeah, I don't, she's like, I don't sweat. I'm like, okay, I've heard people tell me that before. I'm like, no, no, I literally have a medical condition
Starting point is 00:39:39 where I don't sweat. And I could totally overheat and die while we're working out. Oh, holy shit. That's a weird thing. I found, as I've aged, I sweat more in different places. Like, so like, my lower back is like more sweaty than it was previously. That's weird. It's weird because you have a tattoo there too that doesn't even think of a sweat.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I don't know. That's the unicorn jumping over the rainbow one. No. Yeah, that's a really good one. That's right. That's a really good No. Yeah, that's really good. That's really good. That's right. I know you moved us away from government stuff, but I did you guys see the article that Jackie sent over to us that had to do with ring?
Starting point is 00:40:17 Oh, that they can access your ring camera without a warrant and just watch through your shit. Wait, what? Yes. So if you have ring, right? I have a ring. Okay. The supposedly cops can access that without getting any sort of warrant.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. How dare they. Yeah, that's my place. Yeah. Wild, right? Do you know why? Okay, so, okay. Remember when we were not seen lawful to me?
Starting point is 00:40:39 Remember when we were in Cabo and, you know, we put the baby to bed. Yeah. And Jessica had a monitor, but we couldn't go very far with the monitor because we have a monitor that it's like wireless and you're like, oh, you gotta get the one we have where it goes through the Wi-Fi
Starting point is 00:40:53 and I could watch it on my phone or whatever. So I'm like, why don't we have that, right? So I told Jessica, I'm like, why don't we get the monitor, the baby monitor, so I could watch it from anywhere. She goes, no, she's a huge problem with them being hacked by weirdos. They'll hack the camera watching your kid. And then there's been cases where people will hear, people
Starting point is 00:41:11 talking through the camera to their kids through these freaking cameras. We don't know. I've picked up stuff like that before where you pick up somebody else to say, no, and you hear, you hear something through it. It's all hell freaking out. The fun part is, is if you have somebody like, we had somebody watching our house and our vacation, and then, you know, yell at them through the ring, did you really?
Starting point is 00:41:32 When they're taking the dogs out, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but yeah, I mean, it's, so they don't need a warrant to access that for like evidence, they just have it accessible. So you're talking, yeah. I'm gonna lose something about that. Is there another company that's competing? Yeah, so what I didn't, I don't remember when I was reading the article, it's like all these companies are like that, or just in particular, Ring has some sort of contractor deal.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Do you ever go to a friend's house and they have the little camera on their computer taped over on their phone? I do. I freak out. Yeah, because someone could hack in and watch your shit. They have the little camera on their computer taped over on their phone. I do. I freak out. Yeah, because someone could hack in and watch your shit. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Well, I just feel like that's just the case with any camera even on your phone. It's just like it. You're just opening that up for any kind of person to even like I I don't know. I speculate a lot with like the the whole voice in the in Alexa and all that kind of so they've been busted too with like Alexa being gathering a bunch of data on people. Well, you guys saw that clip that Joe Rogan just posted up not that long ago of your agreement clause or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:36 The agreement clause for TikTok. All the things they have accidentally, if you get TikTok, you've given them permission to spy everything on your phone. Go everything. Your keystrokes, your files, and your notes. Your photos, everything. And even, and then the part that was crazy to me was that they're even allowed to phone ID, to yeah, IP, phone ID, all that stuff, to get in through another computer access.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like, there's a computer nearby, they can still access like what the I know it's so crazy. I'm gonna take a fitness. I'm gonna take a fitness podcast. So I just read some cool studies on my on my muscle connection. I actually have so oh good I'm glad you go to the stretch because I have something related to fitness. So check this out they used you know, I think it's is EMG, whether they measure muscle activation. Yeah, yeah. On people working out, doing a compound lift like a bench press, and the person is doing the bench press, and they measure the EMG of the triceps, shoulders,
Starting point is 00:43:34 and chest, then they tell the person, focus more on your chest, focus more on your triceps, focus more, just by thinking how much it changes. And it did, it did change it. Significantly, just by focusing on it through, so we have proof now of what bodybuilders have saying forever, which is concentrating focus on the muscle.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Okay, I'm so glad you went this direction because I got tagged yesterday in some fitness influencer chick that was saying that it said, high-perture fee training is best for building Billy Muscle like not not for I mean excuse me Machines are best for Billy Muscle not free weights and it's and you know who she was Referencing was the who's the guy that you went back and forth? You don't let lift lift run bang Oh, right. Yeah, and he's that guy does not yet
Starting point is 00:44:23 You know he doesn't get angry and upset. Well, I want what I wanted. So because I got tagged and I know we've addressed this on the show again, but I, you know, I think it's something that we should address again, like that the thing when you, and because a lot of these smart guys, the smart guys that are saying that he's not a dumb guy, right?
Starting point is 00:44:37 And he uses studies to try and make his point. But the thing that they're not, they'll take like a study again, that's like eight weeks long and they'll try and prove this point, or they'll take the EMG, oh muscle activation, therefore it's better for, yeah that's not the Bialindal. But you also got to think part of the adaptation process is the learning curve. And this is what we've talked about before. So it does not take very long to get under a leg press and the body to adapt to that because
Starting point is 00:45:04 of how easy it is for the body to do it. When you compare that to a barbell back squat. So the adaptation process is longer. Therefore, some of the benefits and carryover that you will get in terms of building muscle slash burden. Gradually increase. Yeah. So maybe in a shortened study, you may be able to show,
Starting point is 00:45:21 oh, there was more muscle activation in here, and then they make the leap. Therefor builds more muscle than this barbell back squat. But I would make the argument that if you took two different people and for a year's time or say two years time, one always leg press, the other one always barbell back squat, and then you compare those. This squat would win. This squat would win.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And you're right, you're right. At the gates, the leg press might produce a little bit faster in terms of hypertrophy because you don't have to learn to balance, stabilization, the technique. It's easier to get that mind muscle connection. Very easy to focus on that. And then you have the MG studies that are going to support
Starting point is 00:45:57 that too because you're going to show someone, oh look, or the hax squat, which everyone loves to use that one. Oh, it's lighten the quads of like crazy. Oh, this person doing barbell back squat, it kind of isn't. There's like glute, there's quad, a little bit, it's lighten the quads up like crazy. Oh, this person doing barbell backsquad, it kinda isn't. There's like glue, there's quads, a little bit, there's even bat, little backs stuff going on,
Starting point is 00:46:09 like, oh, it's not as focused. So if you wanna develop your legs, the barbell backsquad isn't the best thing. It's like, well, you're not telling the whole story. So I got tagged on that again, and that's kind of making its waves through the space of this idea that machines are better
Starting point is 00:46:25 for eye hypertrophy than free weights are. No, the best is both. Yeah, it's such a simple answer. Yeah. All right, check this out. This company we've been working with for a very long time called Organify. They have high quality ingredients.
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Starting point is 00:47:18 Well, the average. The guy with the longest legs in here is Adam. He's busy. Actually, there was a huge challenge for me, but why it was a challenge has less to do with the long femurs and more to do, I think, with poor ankle mobility, right? So that, and I use that kind of as an excuse why I didn't squat below 90 for the long time. I was like, oh, I'm a real tall, long guy. Therefore, I have to have this major, major forward lean when
Starting point is 00:47:49 I squat. So I had a low bar set up. I would let my chest fall forward a lot more. And I would only hit about 90 degrees. And it was because I had long femurs, you know, when in reality, what it really was was that I had poor ankle mobility and working on the ankle mobility allowed my knees to travel further over my toes, which then allowed me to get deeper into. 100% deeper than most of them. When you have long legs, that's the thing. You need to have more travel with your ankles. Sort someone who's short, typically isn't going to have his mind. Right, and by the way, hopefully I didn't come off that I'm knocking this person for saying that they have long,
Starting point is 00:48:26 that it is because you have longer femurs, exactly what you said, you need more room to be able to travel, it needs to travel over. And so if you don't work on that ankle mobility. Well, a good tell for that, right, is if you elevate your heels and you find yourself easier to get down and further in depth. Yeah. And, you know, comfortably.
Starting point is 00:48:45 So if that's the case, then you definitely would want to look into income mobility. And I think that's a okay thing to do, right? I think there's a couple camps in this area of like, you know, some people, all those, the, the, um, squat shoes are a crutch or, you know, it's elevating your heels on one of those platforms as a crutch and you're not, I think you can do both.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I did both. So while I was working on my ankle mobility and because I wanted to just get deeper in my squat, I was using squat shoes. But then I would still do the ankle mobility work. And then over time, I got more and more comfortable in that deep squat position. Now I'm in a place where I can actually sit, ask to grasp, barefoot, and loaded with my max weight that I move. That's just it.
Starting point is 00:49:29 You can use these things to allow you to do a full squat, but then continue to work on the barriers as to why you can't squat in your most natural state, which is with flat shoes. Because it'll benefit you. It benefits you to have more control over greater ranges of motion, of course, within reason of all of your joints, including the ankle joint. If you have a greater control
Starting point is 00:49:52 and you're able to flex and extend it and have control over these greater ranges of motion, it's gonna make you more functional in everyday life. It's gonna make you more effective at lots of different exercises and stronger and less prone to injury because I mean, how many times people hurt their ankles because they're running or moving or they move laterally and because the ankle moves outside of a range of motion, they own, they lose stability right away and they roll their ankle or hurt themselves,
Starting point is 00:50:19 right? But that's gotta be the main thing. Now, you can also throw maybe thoracic stability and strength there, although that's not a tall person issue per se. That's a lot of other, you know, a lot of logic. Well, I don't have less to do with your femurs. Yeah, so we're talking about legs and ankle mobility, but if you're just talking about, in general,
Starting point is 00:50:36 being a tall person, what are some of those? Well, shoulder mobility too, we're just like, like you're saying, if you're trying to load a little bit lower in your back. Yes. For instance, to kind of counterbalance if you find that forward lean is a problem. That may be something to address as well. My favorite, and I made this up.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I had never seen anybody do this, but I ankle mobility, and then priming like my thoracic region was huge to getting in this more upright, deep squat position. And after time of working on both of them to where I could finally kind of get in that position, my favorite, how I primed now is so different than what I used to. I used to have to like break up all the joints and then spend a bunch of time on each one individually. Where now I can sit down all the way in the deep squat
Starting point is 00:51:24 and then I grab a band. I have a video on my Instagram and so I'll have Andrew show that clip or whatever of this is how I prime now or I actually just get down in the squat position. I have a band around the squat rack and then I'm priming the thoracic so that it helps me get my chest more upright and prime that upper back. In addition, I'm also it's hard for you to see because you can't see exactly my feet and what's going on intrinsically, but I'm actually trying to push my knees forward, open up my hips.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'm trying to grip the floor at the same time, and then I'm also doing these rear delt flies kind of in that position. But there's a lot of good exercises you could do also if this is real challenging for you working on your ability to be able to squat properly. Any split stance exercises, essentially, it's almost like a squat, right? The split stance squat.
Starting point is 00:52:11 So lunges, forward, step, back, step lunges are really good. Bulgarian split stance squats are really good. Step ups are also really good. These are all great exercises that you can do while you're working on your ability to squat better. I love that idea too. I think the knees over toesize shows this, right? Where that's a great point, Sal, is like not only working
Starting point is 00:52:32 on the ankle mobility as far as the priming stuff, but then when you're doing like a lunge, like when you do the lunge, you take your time in that lunge and every time you lunge forward, you try and drive that knee. Yes. Which is kind of counter-intuitive, because we were taught so differently. Yeah, I mean, I remember as a trainer,
Starting point is 00:52:50 I used to actually stand with my hand, lined up with their toes, and then when they would lunch, yeah, I would tell my clients, as soon as you fill my hand, you would shift your weight back into your hips, and oh, you don't want your knees to go over your toes, it was so bad, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:03 looking back now on that advice. And so the opposite is true is if I was working on someone's ankle mobility, I would move to a lunge. Well, it's not bad, but it was just different application, right? So if you were to then, you know, focus on getting that knee further forward, it'll help, you know, it's more conducive towards the squat
Starting point is 00:53:22 because that's where you want your trajectory to end up. Next question is from like event Fastenhout. Can Yin Yoga be used as mobility training or is it different? Okay, so let's describe Yin Yoga first. So Yin Yoga is a form of yoga where you get into a position, usually a stretch type position or pose. And you hold it for very long periods of time, while trying to breathe through it, while trying to relax your body.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So it's almost like static stretching. There's a lot of static stretching involved in yoga. So it's like you get into pigeon position and you hold that position for like three minutes. Okay, so is that by itself good mobility work? No. As part of a mobility routine, it could be though. Now why isn't it by itself good mobility?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Because static stretching or long stretches increase range of motion, but they don't do anything to give you better connection over that new range of motion. So just because now I can stretch my arm further back, that doesn't mean to have more mobility in the sense that I don't have strength over that new range of motion. In fact, if I move into that new range of motion, doing an exercise with weight on me, my risk of injury actually goes up. So now how is this help with mobility as part of mobility routine?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Well, if you're really tight and you work on increasing range of motion, but then you combine it with ways of connecting to that new range of motion, now you've got a good mobility approach. So if I'm to understand, because I've never done a Yen Yoga class, I hear you talk about it like, what? Frequently.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I know, mind blowing, right? Like, I look like a total Yen Yoga guy. Yeah. I wear the shirts and everything. But you like to happy baby. Yeah. In terms of it being a little bit more in the passive side versus active in terms of these poses, like how much emphasis is on kind of creating that
Starting point is 00:55:10 in intrinsic tension? It's not. So it's much more passive. So like, whereas traditional yoga, I'm in a pose, and I'm creating tension. Like if you really do proper yoga, you're creating tension and support. You're not allowing the mat to support you or just sitting in the box with your joints.
Starting point is 00:55:27 You want to stay active. Yin yoga, you're getting these positions, like I said, like happy baby or pigeon or different types of position on the ground. You're trying to settle into the position and stress. It's more parasympathetic. That's where the in comes from. Not only that, but, and by the way, if I had a client that was doing in yoga,
Starting point is 00:55:50 I would totally be like, keep doing it, especially if you like it, because there's mental benefits that come with that too. Huge, yes, thank you. So there's other benefits that come with something like in yoga. And I think it's an incredible practice. And if I had a client that loves doing it, I would totally promote them doing it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And then if they, but if they were to ask me something like, so Adam, does this count as my mobility exercises that you were wanting me to do? I would say no. And the reason why I'd say no is that mobility is ideally supposed to be targeted for what you need. Right, where you're taking a Yen yoga class, you have some teacher up there
Starting point is 00:56:21 who doesn't know any of your imbalances or where you lack mobility. They're just going to teach this really cool organized flow of movements. That's going to help relax you and calm you down and put you in some nice static stretches, which is all positive. But you may have, for example, I've taken some yoga classes and there wasn't a lot of emphasis on a specific ankle mobility exercise. There were some things that required a little bit more ankle mobility, and there wasn't a lot of emphasis on a specific ankle mobility exercise. There were some things that required a little bit more ankle mobility,
Starting point is 00:56:48 but it wasn't very direct, right? That was an area I needed to be hyper focused on. So I could have done a thousand happy trees and downward dogs and all these things like that, which are all beneficial, positive things for you. For your names, though. But if I wasn't doing my combat stretch in there, I was really limiting my progress of working on my deep squat, hence the last question that we just talked about.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So mobility, ideally, is more targeted. The more targeted, you could be the more frequent you can do that. If I found, let's say, three mobility exercises that I knew really made a huge difference on my client. So they have really rounded shoulders, they have poor ankle moody, and they have like really locked up hips and they have terrible external rotation. Well, 90, 90s combat stretch,
Starting point is 00:57:37 and then like the zone one test, or like three movements, I want them to religiously do. And I would way rather than spend a whole hour in those three movements that spend an hour of 12 random movements. Yeah, it makes sense. And it also sounds to me like it's completely in contrast with mobility. Being that it's more passive, it's more access of range of motion with more flexibility being the focus in terms of being able to be loose.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And calm your system down, address all the stress and the tensing mechanism, whereas mobility is more focused on bringing in that strength support system, that stability around the joint. And that's why we do add that bit of tension, but it's focused tension around the joint for support. Yes, more range of motion does not necessarily mean you have better mobility. In fact, in some cases, it can mean worse mobility.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I've used this example before. Like a baby has tremendous ranges of motion. You take a baby and you can take their feet and you can move them all over the place, but they have really bad stability, which means they're not very mobile. I mean, they move, they can't move very well on their own. And if you do put them in a position where on their stretch, you put any load on them, they'll hurt themselves. Not that I suggest you put load on a baby, but that's just the easy example to understand. First, the kids with cigarettes now.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Smoke cigarettes and do squats for babies. We're gonna piss six month old babies, yeah. Next question is from Grant Satisfyth. How do you guys approach training and nutrition on vacation when not actively cutting or bulking? That's changed for me in my journey. I think I was way more stressed out about this and I would either one, go way off the rails and put on a bunch of that way,
Starting point is 00:59:27 or be crazy and bring my food and be counting macros still on vacation where I think I have a much more loose approach. And one of the things, although this is more recent, that has really promoted that. Like the Cabo Trip we just took made me feel this way is when we brought up that study that we've referred to multiple times now that I thought was really fascinating
Starting point is 00:59:51 by the people that took an entire week off of training completely, still that sell the same progress as someone that was training consistently every single day. And I thought, you know, having a week of like not weighing measuring, tracking food, or you know, potentially maybe hitting my protein, missing my protein and take a little bit here, it's not going to be the end of the world. And so as long as I don't like eat like an asshole,
Starting point is 01:00:15 like I say all the time on this trip, I'm actually going to just, I'm going to just enjoy myself and not stress too much because a week of off the diet a little bit and not training is not stress too much because a week of off the diet a little bit and not training is not considered. It's if you go extreme is where it's really gonna hurt you. Yeah, the key is how you go into it. If you're super restrictive going into a vacation, like I gotta eat just as many calories,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I gotta just do this perfect thing and oh my God, I can't wait till I go on vacation. When you go on vacation, you're gonna deal with this opposite direction, being in bed. Well, you're not even enjoying what you're eating or anyone enjoying the process of vacation, it's like impulse just took over. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:51 So how you go in makes a big difference. The only thing too is like, what do you value? Why are you on vacation? Now this may be not true for someone watching, but for most people and in my experience, when I go on vacation, I'm there to enjoy the people I'm with, to connect with the people I'm with, to get out of my routine, to relax, which also means I'm not gonna pay much attention
Starting point is 01:01:14 to my nutrition. Now, that doesn't mean what I said earlier, which is I binge because I was so restrictive, because I go into it with more of a balanced approach also. So then when I'm on vacation, it's like, oh, I didn't eat breakfast, not a big deal because we're over your hiking or at the beach. And then, oh, lunch comes cool.
Starting point is 01:01:31 What are they making? I'll have some of that too. You just, I'm not worried about it. Like, what a wonderful way to ruin your vacation. It's to go in either crazy direction where you go so extreme binge that when you get home, you're like, oh my God, that vacation. I really gotta turn things around and you go so extreme binge that when you get home, you're like, oh my god, that vacation. I really gotta, you know, I gotta turn things around
Starting point is 01:01:47 and then you go back on restrict. Or you, you know, you're not going places and enjoying yourself because you're like, I need a protein bar because we're gonna go on this trip, this hike and I'm not gonna have food in the next hour. Or, you know, just, that's vacation is, there are health benefits to vacation. They have nothing to do with getting ripped
Starting point is 01:02:04 or bulking or building muscle. The health benefits to vacation. I have nothing to do with getting ripped or bulking or building muscle. The health benefits come from other things. Well, I think that's what you really need to assess. It's like, what do you get out of vacation? What are you trying to get out of vacation? And having some kind of mindset going in beforehand. So, some of those things aren't just like,
Starting point is 01:02:22 it's to completely like shut off like all of my barriers in terms of like the way that I eat normally. So now I'm allowed to like, you know, just go crazy and impulsive or, you know, am I trying to relax and I'm gonna try to come back refreshed and you know, apply certain practices that I've learned to love doing just because it's
Starting point is 01:02:45 part of my like everyday active routine. Like I try and stay active while I'm on vacation just because I enjoy how that makes me feel. But not can like use that as kind of an adventure. So I go see things but then also I want to decompress. So I also like manage that time. So I'm like sitting around. I'm not doing anything. Listen, building and losing muscle is a very slow process. Losing body fat and gaining body fat is actually a pretty slow process. Where it gets accelerated and crazy is the extremes. If you actually spent seven days and all seven days,
Starting point is 01:03:19 you overrate, but not crazy overrate. You just overrate by five to 700 calories every day, which means, every meal you're eating a little more unusual, you're having dessert, or maybe you're having a couple of alcohol drinks in the day and stuff like that, and you're enjoying your vacation. It ain't gonna be as bad as you think it is
Starting point is 01:03:37 where it is, and I love your point, Sal, of how you go into it is so important. And I think that is the most common mistake, in fact, I have a client right now who's asking me for advice right now, getting ready to go on a trip. And she's like wanting to be hardcore heading into it, right? And get his best shapes, can she's restricting hell hard and increased volume and all the stuff is going up right now, which I'm not against that, but you have to be careful of what that sets you up for potentially, especially if
Starting point is 01:04:01 you're going to go the opposite, you're going to go like, all right, now my vacation, no rules apply. And because you are restricting so hard and pushing through so much leading into it, it really promotes that swing in the opposite direction versus you kind of cruise into vacation of your normal lifestyle of making good choices and doing an exercising and training, and then vacations here, and now the difference is like,
Starting point is 01:04:23 okay, maybe I will or won't lift weights, but I'll probably be active, go for walks, go for hikes, do things like that. And then I'm gonna enjoy a drink, I'm gonna eat out, I'm gonna do those things, but I'm not gonna stuff myself. The difference for me on vacation is my daily structure is different.
Starting point is 01:04:38 My daily structure when I'm on vacation, it's very structured because I have a family, I got kids, I got work, so I work out at 6.30 AM and I go to work and then I come home and I eat it this time just because I have all this busy stuff. When I'm on vacation, I have those responsibilities, that's the biggest difference. Is it just when I have the structure,
Starting point is 01:04:53 I could wake up later, work out, maybe, maybe not if I feel like it, eat, yeah if I feel like it, you know. I used to- Blacksibility there. Yeah, I used to be, I used to be like, I would go and binge like crazy on vacation because it was like oh
Starting point is 01:05:05 This is it. This is real one time all year to do this right? Yeah, it's crazy Next question is from Micah 2 4 4 8 What are some of the best uses of your time when taking long breaks between sets rest nothing? This is funny. I know when I used to have clients that were like what do I do? Well, I'm sitting here I mean, I don't know right a book I used to have clients that were like, what do I do while I'm sitting here? I mean, I don't know, write a book. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I don't do whatever you want. Just don't do any exercise. There's two versions of this for me personally, and how I would probably advise a client. And that is like, my goals are very important to how I would answer this. So if I'm on like this kick where I'm trying to make moves and I'm really trying to get after my workouts, I'm trying to make moves, and I'm really trying to get after my workouts,
Starting point is 01:05:45 I'm trying to be consistent. I wanna be super into my routine. So my phone is not with me. I'm listening to music, but it's not in my hand. Between sets, I'm not scrolling on Instagram, I'm not working, I'm not doing anything. I'm like sitting there, I'm letting my heart rate come down. I'm already visualizing the next set.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I am into my workout. If I'm trying to maximize results, and I'm letting my heart rate come down, I'm already visualizing the next set, like I am into my workout, like if I'm trying to maximize results and I'm on a serious case, now I'm not that way right now, right now, I'm maintaining health and staying balanced and so between sets I work and I would never recommend that to somebody, I get on my, I answer an email, I do things that I would totally teleclient who is trying to make progress in their training
Starting point is 01:06:25 journey. That's not a good strategy for you, but hey, if you're in a place in your life where you know, this is part, you never miss workouts, you're consistent, you're not trying to really make any progress right now, just trying to stay healthy and balanced and strong. Then, well, there's, you know what they're looking for? They're looking for more exercise. I think that's what it is. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh, God. You old like, I guess. You rubber band a rest. Yes. In between, that's what it is. Oh God, yeah. The old like, I was, the rubber band arrest. Yes, in between. That's not arrest. Yes, like what's the most effective? How do I make my workout more effective? I got these minute windows in between exercises. So the best use,
Starting point is 01:06:55 so that would go to my first version of me, right? If you are trying to make the most gains in your workout, then it's not doing something necessarily physically. It's actually visualizing. And like, being very focused, not letting any of the outside distractions get in your head and you are, if that's music for you or silence, whatever, but you are already, you're visualizing the next set. And you're thinking about your workout and how it felt and how your muscles feel right
Starting point is 01:07:21 now, like, and bringing your heart rate down by breathing in through your nose. That's a big one, yeah. In terms of like, so anything when I'm coaching athletes is like how quickly can we get that heart rate down? That's right. How masterful are you at getting to that calm state? Because that's the top tier athletes, just have that ability.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So even within the most like extreme environments where they have to perform at a really high level. They could be doing these crazy intensive bouts, but then find themselves to that calm state and then be able to perform again. Because I mean, if you're really trying to squeeze out on a performance end of it, if you think in those terms about focus,
Starting point is 01:08:00 heart rate lowering, breathing, that's where I would stay. You know they've done studies on some of your high performing athletes, and that's one of the most things, one of the things they have most in common in these crazy high pressure situations, or they're getting ready to do like a double back flip with a dirt bike, or something, and their heart rate is like 50 beats per minute. Their common athletes are at the top. Just, calm, so we're something like one of us would be like racing like crazy, panting because you got, if you have that ability one of us would be racing, like crazy, panting, because if
Starting point is 01:08:25 you have that ability to do that in your workouts, you're going to get the most at every one of your sets. And rest in between sets is extremely important when it comes to building muscle and strength. Not resting in between sets means you're basically turning it into an endurance cardio workout in which it's just fine if that's what you're looking for, but when it comes to the muscle building effects of strength training, the rest in between is very important. I would say that's one of the worst things you could do in between sets is a bunch of activity in there.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I mean, that's worse than being distracted. You're ruining the work out. Yeah, you're nutting water. Absolutely. Look, if you like our information, head over to minepumpfree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal.
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