Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1918: The Pros & Cons of Drop Sets, How to Know if You Have Reached Your Muscle Building Potential, Ways to Deal With People Who Shame Healthy Living Choices & More

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: For long-term fitness success you MUST eliminate the victim mentality! (2:26) What happens when you gaslight something and do stupid things. (23:32) How eating an ultra-processed diet can change your brain! (29:15) How Sal uses the bone-both protein powder from Paleo Valley. (32:42) Happy Meals for adults? (43:09) Adam recommends Eat the Rich: The GameStop Saga on Netflix. (48:55) Where are all the influencers pushing those NFT projects now? (55:11) The Caldera movement is growing. (56:45) Justin’s PSA for the Nextdoor app. (59:53) #Quah question #1 - Thoughts on drop sets as a finisher? (1:03:28) #Quah question #2 - What is your opinion of the decline bench? I have never added it to my programming. Am I missing out on something or is it just a pointless movement if I’m doing flat and incline bench presses? (1:10:16) #Quah question #3 - How do you know if you’ve reached your natural potential for hypertrophy? (1:12:45) #Quah question #4 - What's the best way to deal with social situations where you're more fitness/nutrition focused than other people in your circle, and they may demonize you for how you go about your way of living? (1:16:58) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP15 at checkout for 15% discount** Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** October Promotion: MAPS Symmetry or MAPS Strong HALF OFF! **Promo code OCTOBER50 at checkout** ‘Rehabbed’ sex offender interviewed by Vice News sent d–k pic to producer UK doctor switches to 80% ULTRA-processed food diet for 30 days 🍔🍕🍟 BBC McDonalds' Happy-Meal-Inspired Box for Adults Is Out Now: What You Get McMillion$ | Official Website for the HBO Series   Watch Eat the Rich: The GameStop Saga | Netflix Official Site NFT Trading Volumes Collapse 97% From January Peak Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout** How To Do Chest Dips For A BIG Chest! Mind Pump #1322: What’s Your Real Muscle Building Potential? (And How To Get There…) Muscle Potential Calculator – Mind Pump Media Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jen Cohen (@therealjencohen) Instagram

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If you wanna do well, you have to embrace responsibility and you have to feel empowered, not disempowered. Ooh, I know. Personal accountability. That's hard. You know, it's- Let's drive in this message today.

Oh, I tell you, it's the polites, it's the how politics is now getting into fitness and nutrition. That's the issue. And I see this body acceptance movement continue to become distorted and twisted and grow. And bait, what they're doing is they're taking obviously there was a there was one side that was wrong of how fitness and health were promoted, right? It was about being ripped and being extreme. And then when the other direction saying things like, this is healthy when obviously it's an obese individual. And this means I love my body when obviously they're,

they're displaying that they don't love themselves in the true sense. And what that promotes is it promotes this victim mentality where, yeah, you know, I'm obese, but it's my genetics or I'm obese, and it's because I grew up in this particular neighborhood or because of the food that I didn't have access to or because of whatever, that I don't have control. I'm not empowered, which is the, it's anti long-term success in health and fitness,

because the only way to really make it work long-term is to accept full responsibility and move forward. Also accept the limitations. Fine, I don't have the genetics that are going to let me be a professional athlete or I don't have the genetics that are going to make it, it's going to make it where I can walk around shredded with the six pack all the time. That's fine. I accept that. I'm going to move forward anyway. So. I heard a neat analogy. I think it was, I think Jen Cohen was interviewing somebody. I wish I remember who it was, but it was a small clip and it was talking about this and he was talking about that we're all dealt different cards, but it's not about the cards that you're dealt, but it's about how you play the hand.

And it gives like the poker analogy of like, I've seen somebody with pocket twos when a million dollars in poker because the way they played their hand. And I've seen people with a full house and lose all this money because of how they played their hand. So you could come from this super privileged situation but also become a drug addict, a loser, and fuck all those great cards up. The same that you could come from absolutely nothing

and not have anything or not have a favorable hand and actually be someone who turns out to be a superstar. So it's less about what you're dealt and it's more about how you deal with it. And the way I look at it is I look at it like this. Like forget, you know, being the best in the world or being the worst in the world. Everybody has a potential and it's a wide range.

Like think about it this way. How far down and dark do you think you could get if you made just terrible bad decisions your entire life? Like that potential is massive, right? Well, there's an equally high potential for how well you could do if you made good decisions, if you took responsibility, if you worked hard, if you were honest, and you did the right things.

So that's your potential, accepting that you can't change certain things is part of working towards that. And then accepting your responsibility and saying, I'm going to focus on what I can do. And look, we've all had those clients that you could tell that they were going to be successful because they had this attitude or you could tell they weren't going to be successful. Like when I had a client that was all about excuses, all about, you know, I, you know, just feeling like a victim and poor me and poor me, like if I couldn't get them to change that mentality, I knew it was going to fail. They weren't

going to be able to do this. They weren't going to be able to improve their health in any meaningful way or at least not for long term. Well, one message is empowering and moves you in positive behavioral changes. And one message, you know, really just is negative. It takes you, message really just is negative. It provides you with answers and keeps you in a place where you're already not doing too well. It does nothing in terms of create any kind of opportunity other than to just basically profess this is where I am. Yep. Do you guys recall a period of time in your life when you feel like you felt that way about yourself or have you always been about personal responsibility and was there ever a transition or do you think you were?

And sometimes I feel like it's a, some people, I feel like some people, yeah, have it like early on, you know. Well, I feel like it's, I think it's more common the younger you are. It's almost an immature way of thinking that I'm like this victimhood. Like I'm a helpless kid.

And then as you get older and you trek through life a little bit, you start to gain a little bit more personal responsibility. Not always, so keep going all the way till they're much older and they still feel this way. So do you remember a period in your in your life where you kind of felt like a victim and then you've transitioned out of that or did you never feel that? God that's tough because it was so probably not you Justin you're too white. Yeah, you a duck. It could never go on. It's questions more for Sal.

Yeah, Sal. Have you ever been in never go on this is questions more for Sal Sal have the immigrant parents, you know what? Have we darken? Me, did you ever remember a time feeling sorry for yourself? Yeah, um, you know I I didn't but it was really never it was modeled so strongly my parents didn't talk by the way It's not like they sat me down and said take responsibility You know, you have to be empowered. You're not a victim. Nobody ever sat me down and said that to me. They just, they modeled it so much.

I mean, again, my parents came here. They were very poor, uneducated. My father, I think he went to fourth grade and that was it because he was super poor. And he never, he didn't sit there and complain about the fact that he couldn't speak the language that he didn't know how to write and read in English that jobs were hard for him to find.

All I saw him do was go out and do it. And then when there were challenges, he always would be like, what can I do? And my mom was the same way. And so I feel like it was just, it was model. It was still in you. Yeah, without, like, didn't say it. You know what I mean? Cause I saw it that way, which I think why I grabbed on to fitness so much was this

very like, it fit that. I was teasing you Justin, but did you ever, I mean, well, cause, I mean, because I saw it that way, which I think why I grabbed on to fitness so much, because it was this very like, it fit that like. I was teasing you Justin, but did you ever, I mean, well, because, I mean, so I've noticed this too in the sports realm a lot like in being around a lot of different coaches. And so the message was never like, you know, that they were never providing you with excuses and answers for your failures and like to, you know to you know project that out and blame everything else like even even to like it You know and because you're on sports teams. You're you're around a lot of different personalities around a lot different You know people from different backgrounds social and economic backgrounds like you know I was always immersed with like a very diverse group of people growing up and and you know

even then going to Chicago. That message just never resonated. That victim message. It's just interesting to me now where culture has shifted so much of like, there's none of these underdog stories are being highlighted anymore in terms of like overcoming, you know, adversity, overcoming the odds. It's just this, it's this sort of fodder that's just thrown out there to sort of, you know, justify like anger and outrage against like a lot of the

success of other people. Success of other people. So that's, it's just interesting to me. Yeah, I can't really say that I've, I mean, I've, I've definitely had like victim mentality for certain things, but I think it just was so modeled away from that. You know what I love about sports, the one thing that I love about sports is it's a, it's a, in many ways, it's an

example of responsibility at the highest level. Well, it's an example. It's a nice representation of life, right? And so you can say whatever you want, you can have whatever philosophy you want, but if the team wins, they win. And the players that play the best tend to make the most money, and they tend to lead how other people should play. And then the teams that work together tend to do the best. Not only that, but if you've played sports long enough, you've seen this example happen

before where the gifted, talented, more privileged athlete is the starter and he's awesome and he's amazing. But then there, there's always that one guy on the team who isn't as gifted as well. But the work outwork. And then takes that. If you've played sports celebrated it. That's right. If you play sports long enough, you've seen that happen. And I think to your point of like, it's a great representation of life because that does happen. It absolutely happens.

There's absolutely people that are in a much more privileged situation and that are gifted and talented and don't have to put the work in as hard as the other people. And they naturally kind of rise at the top. But then there's always that guy who didn't have all that and ends up out working that guy, and then it takes that position.

You know why in most many sports, it remains somewhat pure in that sense, is because you watch their evolution and you watch the game, so you see what's happening. You see the hard work, you see the play, like you don't see people arguing why LeBron James gets paid so much versus another player because you're like, well, obviously I can watch

what he's doing. I see what's happening. You know, what's funny, okay, with strength sports, you get more, and by the way, by no means is our huge victim mentality in the sport I'm about to mention, but you see more victim mentality and bodybuilding than you do in strength sports, like Olympic lifting and powerlifting.

Why? Subjective. Yes. You will hear bodybuilders complain and whine more because it's judged. Whereas in powerlifting, the guy lifted more than you did, like what are you gonna say? You know, there's nothing you could say about it.

And in sports, you see that. So this is why you'll see people who will say, wow, CEO's get paid too much, but professional athletes and entertainers don't. Like you never hear someone say Beyonce makes way too much. You see how much she pays her staff versus how much she makes. You don't see that so much because people watch her perform.

They see how talented she is, but this nameless faceless CEO, nobody sees what they do behind the scenes, how hard they work and how much value they bring to the company. All they see is how much money they make and how much the people who work for them make and then they make these arguments.

And that's, it's starting, they're trying to pour that into health and fitness. Now you might want to ask why, why do they want to pour that into health and fitness? Because it can sell you shit. You know how easy it is to sell somebody something when I tell you it's not your fault, it's everybody else's fault. Because I have the answer. I have the answer. Yeah, yeah.

Here's the pill, here's the thing. Here's, oh, I know taking responsibilities really hard. When I had to sit down and examine my first marriage and some of the contributions I made to my divorce, that was hard. I had to sit there and be like, oh yeah. I played some roles in all of that. That's hard to do.

It would have been, in the moment, it would have felt good if somebody came and said, you did nothing wrong, Sal. It was all the other person's fault, right? And then I'm like, okay, good, I don't have to bear that burden. But then there would be no change, there would be no me moving forward. I wouldn't have become a better person.

And that's the thing. So if you want long-term success in your own health and fitness, you gotta stop blaming everyone and everything else. Bottom line, do some people have it easier than others? Yeah, that's the fact of life, man. That's just the way it works. Now what, what are you gonna do now?

You gotta accept what you got, and you gotta move forward anyway. You gotta accept your genetics and move forward anyway. You gotta accept the fact that you can change your nutrition with whatever tools you have, money, no money, whatever. You gotta accept the fact that you could be more active or less active, regardless of the equipment and the gyms you have access to.

You got to accept those things and move forward. And when you do that, you will accomplish long-term success. If you don't, you'll fail every single time. No one has ever succeeded long-term with that victim mentality and health and fitness. Andrew, did you ever go through that? Did you go through feeling like a victim at any point in your life?

Yeah. From what age to what age? And when did you snap out of it? It's okay though. High school. And then coming out of high school. Yeah. Yeah. Was this when you when you got your your girlfriend pregnant? You don't know if you don't mind me saying, was that that? Yeah. Yeah. Things in my periods, things like that, more specifically my father being absent in my life. Yeah.

And then kind of blaming him and then took a while before I was able to recognize that, be aware of it and then take things like amount control. Yeah, and when you did take those things into control, it was probably a big difference. Yeah, we brought back like a lot of confidence and everything that I did. And fitness, I think, helped kind of bring me in that direction. Yeah, so I said the same time period for myself. It was probably, you know, what's funny is I actually didn't think I was. What my attitude or the way I thought, because many, in many ways, you were also like,

I'll pull myself up by my bootstraps at a young age. And so, and I did have that attitude, but then there was still a, this undertone of victimhood too, because what I would do is I would compare myself to my peers that were complaining about us now. And I'd be like, come on, like that's what you're complaining about. And in my head, I'm going, I've been through so much worse.

I've been through so much worse. Oh, like a chip. Yeah, so, and I didn't realize it. And in my head, I'm going, I've been through so much worse. I've been through so much worse. Oh, like a chip. Yeah. And I didn't realize it. I wasn't truly, at that point in my life, maybe I didn't think I had victimhood, but I didn't, where I'm at now, I'm actually grateful of the disadvantages I had.

You know, chew on that for a minute. Like I'm so grateful for all those things. And that didn't take until my mid to late 20s of actually going back and taking account of all the shitty things that have happened in my life. Whether I brought them on my own or I was, I inherited them or I had no control of them, didn't matter what I realized was all the ones

that I went through and overcame. I started to connect the dots to what that created in my life, or the character that it built, or the success that I had afterwards, or the, you mean, and then what I started to see was like, whoa, the stuff that I think was like, poor me, or the shittiest part, the ability for me to work through that and overcome it,

what I got from that was some of the most valuable things that I ever got in my life. And so then I started to reframe these disadvantages that either I had or that would happen to me in life because I quickly realized like, oh, this is an opportunity. It's an opportunity for growth. If I can make, this a shitty, this is unfair, this sucks, but man, it's a test. If I can make it through this and I surpass this or I overcome

this disadvantage, then now I'm at an advantage because this other kid who was more privileged and didn't have to overcome that, he didn't build the skills that I had to build to overcome that. And I just, I think that was like this major pivotal moment in my life was to start to look at those things. So, and then now, and it doesn't mean that, I think I'm invincible or I don't have situations where I get down or frustrated and I have a moment of going like, fuck this sucks, what that happened to me?

And, but quickly, it shifts to, oh, here's an opportunity. You know, something great is gonna come up. Something you said right there was really important, is you said, yeah, sucked, yeah, it was hard, yeah, it was unfair. It's important, you say that because what people will do, the people who promote the victim mentality,

what they'll glob onto is, well, you don't know how hard it is. Right, that you don't have empathy for. You don't know, yes. And that's, okay, that's not at all. What, look, I've made a career. We all made a career out of helping people through the struggle of obesity,

through the struggle of poor health, through changing relationships to food, and all the reasons why the relationships to food were not ideal, or all the reasons why they weren't active, and why they had poor relationships to exercise in their bodies. Like, we made careers out of that, and we were successful because we were empathetic,

but we were also successful because we understood that, I don't care who I had in front of me, and I don't care how great of it, I consider myself a pretty damn good trainer, and I got pretty good at the end there, but I can't do anything unless the person accepts that responsibility. I couldn't do anything, I can't do it for you,

is the bottom line. And so that's the truth. So, the empathy's there, but you know, it's funny. Real empathy is, like, man, that sucks, but also you can do this. And that's the only way. What can you do to improve things? That's the only way it's gonna happen.

Yeah, yeah. Is if you do this. And so, that's why I wanna talk about that because if you feel so, if you're sitting there feeling sorry for yourself and you're not moving forward as a result of it and you're pointing the finger at everybody else, you're going to be stuck and you're going to be dark. It's never going to change.

It's funny. I feel like I gave a terrible answer to you for that. But it's like, to me, looking back, it's really, I always thought everything was my fault. You know, ever since I was a kid, being the youngest and just having that kind of communicated to me from coaches or parents or just not living up to expectations and standards and things. So I had a huge chip on my shoulder.

And so I never really took that role on in terms of blaming other people quite as much. But it was like getting out of that and like the guilt of that and like taking everybody's shit on, you know, in terms of like how they viewed me versus how I view myself and not having like, you know, that kind of, I had to build up my own self confidence. Well, that's an interesting point

because this is a product of potential being in a privileged situation. Because you feel like, man, I have these other people that had way less than me and they figured it out and I haven't figured it out yet. I'm a loser. I have on this, I'm that voice that you're now starting that conversation you're having with yourself

because you came from a situation that may be more privileged than other people. Well, you don't wanna say you're a loser because that's also being a victim. It's more like, I'm gonna figure this out out You know, there's two types of people right? There's the person that looks at the success the success of someone else and says how How dare that person have that success? Who did they steal from? How did they cheat the system? They don't deserve that I deserve some of that then there's the other person that looks at success and goes wow that's awesome

Look at what's what Look at what potential there possibly is. Maybe I can get to that place. There's a spectrum of that, right? I feel like, because I mean, even us, off-air, when we're evaluating somebody, we don't know anything about, I'm always intrigued by somebody who's had success. Of course. I've always, I come, I reserve judgment no matter how much I disagree with what they say or I don't like the way they do stuff. I'm interested. If you found a way to have success, I'm curious. I'm

curious to what worked in your life and not a lot of people are like that. A lot of people see that and instantly want to look for the holes in those people and the things that are negative and bad. And I just have a full. You do do that very well. Yeah, definitely for sure. You know, this is a maybe connected to it, but what's interesting is I'm starting to see that there seems to be an interest or more of a groundswell in kind of what I'm talking about, or what we're talking about, rejecting the victim mentality, accepting responsibility, and the things that you have control over. There seems to be something stirring in people and growing, and I do think it may be the

result of the insanity over the last couple of years. I really do. Because I think now looking back, now that we're kind of somewhat separated from the last, you know, just the unprecedented last couple years, I think a lot of people are looking back and going, that was a little crazy, and I think you guys gas lit us a bit, and I think we over-reacted, over-reacted, and you know what, I felt coerced,

I could tell I was manipulated by fear, we did a lot of things that were stupid. I don't think I wanna give anybody that power anymore. And I'm starting to sense it with people. People are starting to talk more about it. So speaking of like, you know, being grateful for certain things, I think I'm grateful for the insanity of last couple of years

because I'm starting to see people are starting to say this kind of stuff. Looking back and going, why the hell did we do this? It's very transparent now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it came all out because of just everybody's fear and hysteria.

It's like you could see what the result was. Dude, I read an article. I read an article that enraged, so my wife, first of all, if people think I'm outspoken, you have no idea. My wife is, I joke with these guys all the time. If I ever ended up in the gulags, it was probably because of my wife saying something, like she's way worse than I am.

And I shared an article with her and some of my aunts and they were just so pissed off because you guys remember when they were, like pushing everybody to get vaccinated, right? And there were women that were coming out saying, this is messing with my menstrual cycle. My period is off, it's heavier, it's pausing. And people who were saying this on social media

were getting shut down and blocked, and you can't say that, don't say that. Well, now there's studies coming out, so I'm like, oh yeah, it definitely, it may in fact have an effect on women's menstrual cycles. I mean, the women in my family were so angry, because it's like they gaslit the shit out of people, and that's just one example.

So I think stuff like that is making people look back and go, hmm, maybe we shouldn't give people that kind of control. How trustworthy are a lot of these officials in these powerful positions? Well speaking of gas lighting, and I guess you have to, I feel like you have to laugh about this because I can't be the person

who's just gonna constantly be negative about this stuff. So I have to find things like this that I just kind of like chuckle. Because it's like, you know, this is what happens when you gaslight and you do stupid stuff. Did you see the vice? Oh, yeah. Did you see that they brought you guys told me about this?

Okay, vice, vice, which is unfortunate, because I used to like vice, and I just feel like, especially in the last couple of years. They seem like they're having a general, okay? Yeah, they've gone super, super woke direction, so I still consume the content though. I'm like, I'm always like that where I like to still consume it from both sides all the time. I actually follow some of the most woken space. Yeah, I do. I do want to hear. I do. I think it's important. I think it's

important for for balance. So I do. And up pops this thing where they were doing, I guess, vice to this whole like documentary on the this, documentary on this pedophile getting out of jail. And then, or sex offender. He was a sex offender. He was a sex offender, sorry. So he's a sex offender that's. Like, integrate them into society. They need more.

And they have the, they have like the, you know, the soft music playing and like, I'm just gonna change my mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Playing all that, like he's, you know, gonna get back into society, change his life and like, a comeback story.

And not, but 20 minutes later after he leaves A studio he sends a dick pick to the fucking producer You know what the you know what you know what sad you know what the statistic is on them do it again Dude I mean now that's still means 30% don't. Right, that's still not. Right, so you can't. Yeah, and so we can't castrate them all, just because 70% of them still don't.

You know what my view is on that? My view is the crimes that should be punished the most harsh are crimes against people, meaning violence, sexual assault, property crimes, I think, should be punished relatively harshly. The crimes that I think shouldn't be punished nearly as harshly as they get punished are like crimes against yourself. Right.

I'm using drugs. To use drugs against yourself. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't make sense to me that getting caught with a bunch of cocaine will get you thrown in jail for longer than you sexually abusing a child or sexually assaulting a woman or punching someone on the street. It's destroying other people's lives.

Yeah, or smashing a business as windows and stealing their shit. That kind of stuff should be punished the most harsh. The stuff you do to yourself, that's you're hurting yourself and I know there's other ramifications, but I think it makes more sense that those are punished less harshly. Crimes against property and people should be punished the most harsh You know, I wonder how many you know, I Think I'm thinking about the number. I just gave you the 70% of those sex offenders. I wonder of the 30% What percent of those were situations where like you know a 19 year old guy slept with his 17 year old girlfriend

Like obviously they probably fall in that that 30% so what of that 30% that are reformed, quote unquote, then are actually just people that were that part of the show. And how many of them that were actually true, like true, true sex, like, or they beat you. Yeah, you got to be kind of peeing outside of your school. You're drunk at two in the morning, and you got out of your buddy pulled over

and you're pissed in his school, and then you got nailed for it. Like, yeah, if you wore a fake dick and Tata class, I'm sure he'd be okay. Wow. Did you find out that I was trolling yet or not? I think it's similar. Yeah, it's like some red or a colic. You know, and I mean, I would have hoped that that was the case, but yeah, I don't know

for sure if that's, that's it smells like a massive troll to me. It, you know why? It would be so crazy, but, yes, yes, it looked so crazy, but you, but you know, you never know. She's never, never know these days. So you, you have impact. So right, it was trying to say that it was, they were trying to basically say that he, he had problems with some of the policies

of the school before. And so this was like his way of being like, well, for going all, well, can go in this direction. Like he literally like dressed, make it a prosthetics and, you know, it has to be. I mean, cause it's so extreme.

It does sort of make sense. Right. Are you not convinced that way? I'm so convinced that way. No, I'm not, I'm not because from what I read, he had, he's, they already knew that he was going through, he was transitioning And so that was just part of so it wasn't like it happened overnight It was something that that they were doing and then they came to school

Yeah, but he could be he could be He could be transgender and potentially transitioning and still have issues with the school over like stupid stuff and there And so he he went okay, yeah, you won't you well. let me do a mess of you. I'll mess with you. Yeah, right. So maybe, yeah, so he could still, it said both those stories. What a weird world right now. I know.

You know, I'm not explaining it. You know, it is, but that's one of the, to me, things like that are one of the best ways to put a mirror in our face. You know what I think to let us know like how, like, wow, I guess we hadn't thought it that far out that it could get there and how ridiculous is where that we're here.

Or fine, let's just be clear and draw a line. Like, here's, I think it's the ultimate, you wanna talk about patriarchy and sexism. That, to me, is one of the most egregious examples. Had a woman, a biological woman, who naturally had those kinds of massive boobs, who wore a sheer, because this person's also wearing a sheer thin shirt, where you can literally see the outline

and color the nipples. And the book note bra. Had a woman who was built that way, come to class and done that, they would have got sent home. They would have got sent home for being inappropriate. But because this person says that they're transgender, they can't touch them. To me, that seems like it smells a lot like sexism. And if I was a woman, I'd That's, to me, that seems like, it smells a lot like sexism.

And if I was a woman, I'd be like, excuse me, that's not cool. Because if anybody, any of us did that, you guys would have sent us home and said it was inappropriate. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy.

Anyway, I gotta bring up this crazy, there was this UK doctor, I'm gonna bring it up, who did this ultra-process diet for 30 days. You guys read about this? No, I didn't read about it. I did hear about it though. Yes. So they went on a ultra-process diet for just a month,

80% of their diet was ultra-process food for 30 days. And what they found was. No, okay, so are they restricted calories? Are they actually dieting or are they just eating? They're just eating. Okay, so this is not a diet then. No, no, they're just what they're? Or they're actually dieting or they're just eating? They're just eating. Okay, so this is not a diet then. This is just what they're saying is they're going to eat all processed foods.

80% of their diet would be ultra processed and they would just eat that way and see what happened. So listen to their body, eat as much as they want, as little as they want, basically and see what would happen. Right? Because I think it's disingenuous to put someone on ultra processed type and then control their calories because a big part of the problem with these foods

is they make you overeat and stuff, right? So this, with this guy did, so went on this diet and within, first off, within a few days, he noticed that he felt way more hungry, way more often than he used to. So he started craving more foods, he became extremely constipated. Check out some of the stuff that is in 30 days.

Constipated? Yeah, his diet is obviously his digestion was messed up, as a result. Within 30 days, he gained 14 pounds, which, okay, so 14 pounds, a lot of that was blow and water, and some of it was body fat. His blood tests revealed that there was a 30% increase in hunger hormones.

So the hormones that drive hunger went through the root. Stuff we've been saying. Yes. I remember when I told you guys how, like, I mean, the process of competing was one of the neatest things that I experienced as a trainer because it was the best test I had ever done, like on my list, with things like this. And I clearly remember how interesting it was to eliminate protein bars as part of my prep

and then have one where I said, oh, I have whatever I want. And then, you know, vividly remember, like wanting. So like, oh, introducing it, being like, oh, these tastes different. It's been a while since I had one of these. Not liking it, to then liking it, then loving it, and then wanting to, and then eating three,

and then going like, oh my God, I had four of those today. Like, so wild to feel that and recognize it myself. Well, check this out. This is the most crazy part of this, right? They did brain scans before and after. So you could actually see what was happening in the brain. Doctors revealed that the new diet had sparsed in 30 days, had sparked the creation of new functional connections between certain brain regions.

So the quote is, the diet has linked up the reward centers of my brain with the areas that drive repetitive, automatic behavior. So eating ultra-processed food has become something my brain simply tells me to do without me even wanting it Which is what you see in people with addiction? so literally his brain changed and It it compelled them to want to eat more and more of these foods even though he felt like objectively said I felt like garbage And terrible digestion my energy was crap It was driving him to keep going. I mean, are we surprised?

Probably the best scientists in the world I would assume work for food companies. You're right. Some of the big tests is my personal. The smartest scientists in the world are working for freaking food companies for that exact reason. So I'm not surprised at all.

You know, just being a processed foods. There's a terrible commercial transition, but it's the truth, right? So, I mean, I think it's, I also think it's important though with our, I mean, because sometimes people, obviously here, us talk about process foods and then assume that like,

that doesn't happen in my life. Like 100% process foods get into my diet. It's not impossible to not, like I could live off of a whole food diet, but the reality is that they're convenient. And sometimes it's a choice we do. Here's an example of how I've even let my son have processed foods right now. So, we, the school he goes who doesn't have a microwave. And one of the things I've been telling Katrina is just like, you know, when I look at his lunch, it's very carb heavy. And I'm like, and it's not bad, okay, quote unquote, but he's,

he's not getting a lot of protein in his, in his lunch and stuff like that. And she's, oh, well, they don't have a microwave. So I don't want to give him like cold bison and like, because that's normal when he eats at home, he eats what we, you know, we have, we have bison and sweet potato. We just do a small version in his little cups. And that's what he eats. And he loves it. But making the kid eat it cold and stuff like that, I'm like, so she's giving him a lot of like package stuff. And I was like, why don't you do the beef sticks?

And she goes, you know, I never thought of that. I'm like, yeah, just chop, because she's always paranoid about him swallowing and choking on everything, right? So with the chop, she cuts everything up. So I'm like, yeah, just cut him up in small pieces, put him in a little snack on him. So I'm like, yeah, just cut them up in small pieces, put them in, we'll snap on them. Yeah, and snap, I would rather that

than these, you know, air-crisp wafer things that we get them that are, you know, it's just a bunch of carbs, you know, say, and again, they're not bad. Does he like them? He loves them. Yeah, absolutely. Now they're getting more protein.

Now there is processed, and then there's, there's a scale of processed, right? They're like, Oh, yeah, right, like, like, Now, there is processed and then there's a scale of processed. Sure. A lot of processed. Yeah. Like, like, like, like jerky in general is, is, it is a processed, more processed form of meat than just having a steak. But there's a lot of types of jerkeys and meat sticks that are minimally processed. Basically, the process to give them a long shelf life and make them convenient.

And you can get some that are more or less, right? But these beef sticks are... Well, look at... I'm not agree with you. So his... What it's replacing, so he gets those, you know, organic squeezes all the time, right? That's like one of his favorite things with that. But they're so carb heavy. Yeah. You know, it's fruit and vegetables, which is great, great. It's not bad. But it's like, I know he's not getting a good balance of protein. And so, you know, I'm trading one process food that he was gonna do anyways with another one that's grass-fed beef turkey sticks, like, and he's not getting, like, to me, it's a no-bought.

Have you guys tried their chocolate flavored bone broth? I saw you post it. Okay, so they have, I saw you, I saw you, I saw you, was that no-bought? Yeah, so, you know, I wanna say this too, because I get people will message me and say, I thought bone broth and collagen was inferior protein in comparison to way, which is okay.

Way protein, egg protein, are superior compared to other forms of protein in a gram for gram basis. Now, if you eat enough protein, it doesn't matter. If your protein takes high, you get enough amino acids anyway. However, I will say this, that you got to consider digestibility. So for me, 50 grams of way protein versus 50 grams of bone broth, the bone broth is superior because I can't digest way. So I don't care how superior it is,

it messes up my gut. So I love bone broth proteins because for me, it's, and I working with clients and my family and friends, same for them. It's the easiest protein you'll ever have in terms of digestibility. It literally is just water, you feel nothing. Now, they only paleovali had unflavored bone broth,

which I liked because I don't want anything in there. It's just literally bone broth, but a lot of people want it to taste a particular way. So paleovali made one that was chocolate. It's actually really good. Walk me through that. So do you eat it or drink it, I should say, like hot. Like is it like something you put in water

and you sort of warm it up and you just drink it cold cold. Like a protein shake. Because like, okay. You know what tastes like? I think it's about bone broth. I don't think chocolate. It's a good match with that. But like how does that hit your taste?

No, it tastes just like chocolate shake. Doug tried it. Yeah, taste? No, it tastes just like a chocolate shake. Doug tried it. Yeah, I love it. It's like a chocolate shake. I have yet to do this, but I am interested in doing it because I have, when I do the way protein, there's a limited amount of how much I can do. Oh, until a mess is with you.

Yeah, so like if I go, if I go away and I mix it in milk, and let's say I go one and a half scoops, instead of just one, which is the serving size, it'll have bubble guts afterwards. And so I have to stick to, I get one scoop away. But then there's times I was like, man, I could really use double the scoop. It's not, I know it won't sit well with me with the way.

I'm curious if it would, with the... Try it, yeah. It's the easy, Doug, do you digest it easily too? Yeah, no problem. It's really, it's like literally water. Like I could pound 70 grams of it. And I feel like it's... So that's what I'm curious about.

I'm wondering if I could push the grams of protein because it's the bone broth. Yeah, I'll experiment with that. But the chocolate flavor, it tastes like chocolate shake, especially if you mix it with like macadamia nut milk or almond milk, it's like a chocolate And it's actually it's not like you know some protein powders like yeah, it's chocolate. It's still kind of doesn't this actually tastes like a chocolate Shake it's actually really it's I would say it rivals chocolate way protein shakes now

I saw you did like four scoops or something. I saw you posted you did quite a few scoops like five I think yeah, yeah, so I'm putting like a little over 50 grams in there. Is that how much you get? Yeah, you know, and because that's for me, that would be like a serving. Right. And it's like, again, it's almost like I drank water. So I've been doing, I always did their unflaver, but I know people like, I don't want unflaver.

But by the way, the unflavered bone broth doesn't have that much of a flavor. It doesn't taste like chicken soup or something like that. Yeah, it's got almost, it's got a very mild kind of bland. It's almost flavor, it's not flavorless, but it doesn't have a lot of flavor. But the chocolate one tastes legit like chocolate. Yeah, cause I'm sure I'm not the one that imagines

that's how it's gonna taste. It's like a chicken soup, you know, it's for a frog. Cause that's all I think about. I'm like, I'm like, chicken soup, I was like, yeah, you know, wild. How many grams of pro, did you do a big serving or? So I did like two scoops. I think there's 13 grams per scoop.

And I just mixed it with macadamia milk. Yeah, and it was great like chocolate milk. Yeah, the only way it makes sense for me is if I can do four or five scoops and it not make me feel that way. That's one of the really way we'll do that. There's been many a times when I'm getting a protein shake, which is how I use my protein shakes typically,

is I didn't get enough protein for the day. I know I didn't, because I recall like the two meals I had, I'm like, I'm at 90 grams, it's towards the end of the night. I'm like, I definitely need a protein shake. Now, in the past, what I've tried to do is, I'll do three scoops of the way protein then, and I'll get like 70 grams of protein.

And it'll tear me up. Then you just, I can have one. I can have one scoop fine, totally sits fine with me. But if I push the way too much, or again, if I mix it with dairy. So I got a hack for everybody here. So I've never talked about, I can't believe I've never talked about this on the show.

If you want to make, so protein is, it's satiety producing, right? So it helps with appetite. Protein powders, I would say, is a little lower on the scale because it's so pre-digested and so, you know, quick absorbing. But I have a way of making it produce even more satiety

and making it even much healthier. So here's what you do. And you don't taste it. This is the crazy part. So you buy Cylium husk powder, not the little granules, but when it's literally like a fine powder. So you could buy Cylium husk in powder form, and Cylium husk is just fiber.

It's a lot of it is this undigestable fiber. People will take it for digestion to help them poop better off stuff. And I take Cylium husk probably two, three times a day, just to add healthy fiber to my diet. Is it considered like a digestive enzyme? Or what is it? No, it's not a digestive just to add healthy fiber to my diet. Is it considered like a digestive enzyme or what is it? What is it? No, it's not a digestive enzyme.

Just the fiber in it is what's... Yeah, so there's some types of fibers that feed your microbiome. This one kind of does a little bit, but really what it does is it helps things move through the body. So if you take a sillium husk, you'll find you'll just have better bowel movements, better digestion. You tend to get lower cholesterol as a result, so people will take some time sillium husk for that.

So it's a very safe, healthy type of fiber, and they sell it in powder form. So what I do is I make my protein shake with, I'll use the bone broth, and then I'll put in like, like kind of a level tablespoon of the psyllium powder. Shake it up, you don't taste it, and I literally just added like seven,

eight grams of fiber to my protein shake. Lubb for your intestine. And it digest better, and I literally just added like seven eight grams of fiber to my protein shake. Lube for your intestine. And it digest better, and I get more of a satiety effect. So I'll do it and I'll feel a little bit fuller. That's interesting. For longer. And you don't taste it. That's the crazy thing.

You don't taste it in the powder. Don't waste the powders. Have a decent amount of fiber already in them though. No, protein powders? Yeah, they're not. Zero fiber. Is there zero? Zero, it's just protein powder.

Oh, no way, I didn't do that. No. Oh, I assume they infuse some of it with fiber already. No, nothing. Zero. Now is that only when you're talking about like a pure source of like if you do like a meal replacement shake, we'll add fiber.

I mean, I don't know if they add fiber. I think sometimes they try to, but I don't, I mean, psyllium husk is super easy to, it's not a fiber that sometimes too much fiber can cause bloating, but most of the psyllium husk is the kind of fiber that passes through the body. So you're not absorbing it and breaking it down, it just goes through.

Now how valuable do you think that is? If I'm making my protein shake and I do like a peanut butter banana inside the oil? I still think it's great. You still think? Yeah, because you just added fiber to your diet. And it makes it, have you tried that yet? I haven't done it yet.

I haven't done it yet. But I use salim husk. And yeah, it works great. It does. You're a big husky guy, huh? I haven't done it in a shake, no, but I use Silium Husk. And yeah, it works great. It does. You're a big husky guy, huh? I'm big into husk, yeah. So if you ever mix the Silium Husk powder with water, you'll see it kind of almost becomes like a gel.

If you leave it, it'll gel up a bit. But that's what's happening in your gut, right? And it's kind of allowing things to move more freely. It's a free, and it's a bulking agent. Does it give you guys the texture that it gives the shake? kind of allowing things to move more freely. Free Lee and it's a bulking agent. Does it give you guys the texture that it gives the shake? I've actually, have you ever done like, I'll do like egg whites in my shake

because I actually like that one boost my, that's by the way, that's one of the ways that I would do it in the past because it wouldn't upset my stomach to put, you know, put a couple egg whites or back in the days when I had used to have them. Oh, the pump? Yeah, I just, like, pump a couple extra inside the shit. No, it actually if anything it makes it a little thicker

But I mix a little creamier and thicker. You should do that some drinks at the bar too You put a little bit of egg and egg white in there. Oh really? Yeah, yeah Well, that's when they have the white builds body to the drink makes a little thicker. Yeah delicious That's a cool. I think that's always been I even if you just do a little like you said you don't have to do a time It just kind of makes it give this kind of like a frothingness to it and like some Yeah, oh speaking of like processed food and whatnot you brought up to me before the show like that McDonald's Yes coming back with happy meals, but for a different yeah adults that's true. Yeah kind of brilliant right because I believe it was so small was the 80s

It was the 80s when the McDonald's toys kind of brilliant, right? Because I believe it was the 80s. It was the 80s when the McDonald's Toys thing became a thing, right? I believe. Sure, I made a big impact on us growing up there. Right, and it's less popular now with kids. Not that the kids don't love it still, but it's not something like,

not like, that was a big deal when we were kids. So what are the toys? So what are the toys, dude? Immediately, that's what I want to know. Oh, it's the characters. It's like Grimis, it's the burglar, the hamburger glor, it's, I don't know what other. Yeah, the characters. It's like grimace. It's the burglar the hamburger It's I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, but do we get adult toys? No, yeah, so I would I actually think they're gonna go that route I think you might see toys. Well, no, no, no, no, no, I think I'll revisit like okay

Garry super happy meal. Yeah, or character happy meal popular when because obviously you know that happy meals Work just the characters from McDonald's right you know that oh, I know that okay. Yeah, so so like you know that happy meals weren't just the characters from McDonald's, right? You know that right? Oh, I know that. Okay. So, like, you know, Hot Wheels Collector Car, I mean, I could see it like doing things that go rating grimace. Following the same trend it did when we, what does it say, Doc? By the way, say what grimace does look a little bit like a butt plug. That's what they grimace set up for that is.

He's very angry. Yeah, it has a cool odd looking figurine inside. And so I think it's one of these characters from McDonald's. It's actually not called a happy meal. It's called a cactus plant flea market box. Why would they call it so weird? What's that called? Well, because happy meals attach to children.

It's based on the fashion brand collaborating with McDonald's. Oh, who's the brand? I guess cactus plant flea market. I don't know, it's not the double check it. Yeah, that's called it. It's not even more interesting. It's called cactus plant flea market. You can't know, it's not the double check it. Yeah, that's called it. It's called Cactus Plant flea market. You can check them out.

It's weird. Are you pulling them up, Andrew? I didn't even know that was. I'm so out of the loop. I know. I just remember, so Jack in the Box was one of the first sort of fast food companies asserted to target stoneers.

You know, I have more. I was figuring this was gonna be another one of those sort of late night, try to like get the, the stoner, the stoner box. The happy meal. Yes, that would crush, right? So that's the brand. Okay.

Well, look, I think this is going to crush because I think there's enough nostalgia in our age group of people who are like, I haven't eaten anything McDonald's a long time. Are you guys familiar? I think this has been popular in streetwear for a long time, but that's, you see it more and more. You saw it, Super Bowl commercials, a few back,

where you start to see, like, I believe it was like Mountain Dew and like Lays chips did a commercial together. Yeah. It's really smart marketing, and you see it happening more and more. Are you familiar with that too, Doug? Like, have you seen that with brands? Were they?

Doug's all into streetwear. No. I'm sorry, I haven't seen it. It's just a really brilliant strategy to take two brands that actually have no real synergy as far as, you know, the same space, right? Like, you're talking about a apparel brand and McDonald's. Like, there's no conflict of interest of like, and they can only help each other

when you think about it so by co-branding or by doing a collaboration together like this is smart, really smart. I mean, we've done that with some of our brands. You know what they don't do anymore? That I just, so I, there was a someone did a post and it was about like the 90s, things that we wish came back from the 90s or something like that and stuff from the 90s.

It was funny stuff and they're like 90s car security and it was like the club. Oh, I saw that. And then it was taking off the face off of your, your DECD player. Yeah, and all of a sudden. But then there was one in there. I didn't realize that they don't put toys,

like physical toys in cereal boxes anymore. Yeah. That's not really thing. They put like codes and stuff in there. Is there something? No, they put like codes in there. Like scan this and get this thing, whatever. You know, but when we were kids,

yeah, physicals way more exciting. Brawgins, I imagine, yeah. Sure know, but when we were in, yeah, physicals way more exciting, margins, I imagine, yeah. Sure. Yeah, when I was a kid, I was a kid, and then weight everything. I'm sure that's everything. Did you guys, see now, now brought back memories,

I was like, you know how, like the fights I would get in with my siblings, because my mom, every once in a while would give in and buy the expensive shitty cereal. And she'd come home and there was a toy in there. Yeah, were you the one that would dig through the first cat?

You're like my brother, you're the last to have you. Yeah, that's you. Well, no, what I would do, I'd take the bag at a box. So I could see where it was, pull it out. You can never get the bag properly back in the box. Always look like this bulging weird thing. Oh, yeah. The cereal didn't work anymore.

Yeah, so it did give away. It's broken. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If your giveaway. It's broken. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If your cereal box looks pregnant, you know your fucking brother was in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it's so mad. And the toys were always shitty. So I mean, what's your, do you, do you think this will be, let's speculate on the success of this we'll have for McDonald's? Does, does, does a stock rise? Does it do really well after, after this? Like, we're also heading into, I believe, isn't it coming up on monopoly time?

I believe monopoly time is around the new month. Which that is it, so I had a client. There was a big controversy around that, right? Conspiracy? Have you never seen the documentary? That's right, I did. Oh, it's so good. Yeah, yeah, it was like a total hustle

for the longest time, like mob guys and stuff. But what she would do is every time, the same time a year, she would buy a McDonald's stock and ride it and then sell it after the monopoly game would always drive so much more traffic to McDonald's that the stock price would always go on a little surge for, you know, I don't remember the exact period of time. And it was like a thing she She did almost every year and had a lot of success doing that. Yeah. This year from the seventh of September until October 18th is the McMonopoly period. Oh, it's already going on right now. So it's going on right now. Yeah, but I bet there's still everybody's tanking right now. So I wonder, I don't think they've done well stockwise. I haven't been opening up my stuff. I don't look I wonder, I don't think they've done well stock wise. I haven't been opening up my stuff.

Is it? I don't look at it. I don't. Don't add. Yeah, I stopped. I stopped a while ago, dude. It was getting stil. I think my portfolio has gone down.

I don't know, 70%. That's something like that. I really want you guys to watch the Eat the Rich thing, which is all about the whole game stop. I'm really interested. Yeah, it's how they manipulated the... Not only that, but it really I mean they got into like the retail Traders you know retail buyers whatever you call just your average person and how Robin Hood completely, you know

Flip that model on its head and however, but that's how you and It went what's so interesting to me about it is and when you guys when you guys watch this this is really only happened over the last couple years and so Part of this crazy stock market run that we've seen over the last couple of years. And so part of this crazy stock market run that we've seen in the last few years has been driven by these retail buyers. Did not exist in the space, which just makes me think like, wow, how much more volatile is that because of that, right? It was already, it's already a gamble and risk a little bit.

You add in millions of people that aren't, you know, you're, I don't think it's more volatile. I think the volatility has more to do with the monetary. So why wouldn't you think it's more volatile? I don't think it's more volatile. I think it's more that the big players don't like it because it's harder for them to predict what's going on. But I don't think more volatil is in terms of like,

like up and down and going crazy. That's more of just just economic policy. Well, I don't you, I mean, it's simple math. If you were, if you were to take, let's just say there was only a million people that were trading before and now three million people are trading, the swings are gonna be higher. There's just math.

I don't know. So how would that not equal more volatility unless they're all evenly balanced traders that trade the same way as hedgehogs. I guess if you define volatility, is it's gonna be less predictable based off of past? Not just less predictable, but also bigger ups and downs. Yeah, bigger ups and downs.

Maybe an individual stocks. I don't know if that would work out generally, but that's a good question actually. I gotta think about that. But I just want you to watch it so we can all kind of, because that's what came up for me, which is like, God, wow, how volatile is this thing? It way more than we've ever seen before.

I mean, I just think it's these big players don't like it. They don't like it because they can't predict what they could predict before and they had less, now, so if I'm a big mover, I could influence the market by making one or two big moves. But, and one or two other investors couldn't touch me unless they also were big movers. But now you've got the ability for them to organize, come together like they did with on the Reddit forums.

And now they're coming against me, but because they have numbers. So they can't beat me one on one, but now because they have numbers, now they can mess with, and that's what they did. That's what they did in some of these cases. They identified stocks and investments that big players were obviously fucking with.

And they said, you know what? We see that they should have this stock. It's not even that big players were fucking with it. I mean, this is a basic strategy for a hedge fund is to look at a company that they have a 99% chance are going to fail. They know it's on its way out. And they short the hell out of it to, you know, to balance out their to protect themselves. It's just it's smart. It's a very. What they did is they went in and said, Hey, look at these guys short in the stock. Yeah,

let's get them to lose hell of money by everybody. And they would so bad. I mean And it was billions and billions of dollars. I mean, it completely dissapeared. You know what's really crazy are the robo traders? I mean, they have machines that, well, that they'll basically program and they'll notice signals and they'll buy and sell so fast that the average trader has no way of competing. There's a lot of controversy around that.

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So it's always in their best interest to try and to get people to make trades. Sell them by, sell them by. Yeah, and then they're getting funding from a hedge fund, so they have a bias on how they do things. So, and they actually, you remember when Robin Hood shut down a game stop, you could buy it. Yeah, that was what, so this.

Lot of controversy around. Lot of controversy, so you gotta watch it so we can talk about it. Because supposedly they were not influenced, right? Supposedly they were the ones supposed to allow the average person to go in and trade. Yeah. But then they shut it down. They're like, oh, you guys are under the pressure of the food.

So I think they won their court case. So I think they didn't, I think. I don't know. I haven't finished the dock where I'm at, but I don't think they actually got nailed. I think at the end of the day. So what they realized or what the founder realized was that what was happening with GameStop, even though they were, you know, the little guy was celebrating because was happening with GameStop even though they were you know The little guy was celebrating because they were fucking the man at that time

The inevitable was gonna happen because the truth about the company was still true Which is it was gonna die? Yeah, it was gonna be a block the next blockbuster So you could pump the stock up all you want and at some point at some point It's gonna crash and not only that the higher we pump it up the more all these because the people who Were gonna buy who bought so it went all the way up to like I think 600 or 400 some or 600 people there was all these memes There was a lot hold the line. Yeah, yeah, so there was and so there was a there was millions of people that bought it $200 and $300 and it is not a $300 stock Better how you look at it even if the company has a turnaround. It's not a $300 stock and so the it's not a high-user. No matter how you look at it, even if the company has a turnaround, it's not a $300 stock.

And so the inevitable was having, so that was how Robinhood defended himself, or the founder of Freedom's Name, defended himself on doing that was to protect their customers. And so you could sell it, but you couldn't buy it. So they restricted you from buying for that period of time. And of course, again, to your point, they got trouble for manipulating a bias.

But then after I heard that perspective, the fuck that's kind of crazy, right? And they had the wisdom to know that we keep allowing this to, we keep letting people drive this up, knowing that the inevitable is gonna happen, it's gonna crash. You know, they're all having a fun time, you know, sticking it to the man,

but they're, a lot of them are gonna end up hurting themselves. A lot of them are doing to end up hurting themselves. A lot of them are doing it because they're trying to make money off of it. Oh yeah. And then there's people who are like, oh, they're going to hold. No one's going to sell. And then they'll end up. I mean, it's like, you guys see what it's happened to the NFT market?

Notice how it's fucking. I agree. You know me, I'm not done. You see the $97,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 We're all the influencers pushing those NFT projects right now. Didn't it go down it? How's your invisible housing? 97% of the money. 97%. So it was, and what that means is the trade volume. Yeah. The amount of trade volume that was happening on NFT projects

just say six months ago or a year ago was like in, I think it might have been the billions if not, it was like. Oh, no, no, no. More than that. No, it was in the bill. Can you pull it up, Doug? Oh, and it's down into the, it's like 100, I was like hundreds of millions now. No, it's less than that. It's, more than that. No, it was in the bill. Can you pull it up, Doug? Oh, and it's down into the, it's like 100, I was like hundreds of millions now.

No, it's less than that. It's even less than that. I don't think, I don't know if it was trading in the billions and then went down to the single digit millions or whatever. But I mean, it's 90, it was a 97% drop of what it was. It basically fell off. Are you pulling it up right now? Yeah, 98% drop.

98% from what to what? Oh, there's two different numbers, 97, 98%. I'm trying to find the actual numbers. Yeah, what they're referencing is the trade volume, right? eight percent drop. Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent?

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Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Nine percent? Bonobo NFTs aren't going to do well. No, the Fargey Bonobing. Dang. I'm so curious to how that's all going to play out after watching that. Did you guys all end up watching that?

We did, yeah, yeah. Let me be talked about that a bit, like how crazy, in depth that hole went with the imagery. What's up, Doug? From 17 billion to 466 million. That's it. Wow. You're right, it wasn't the billions. Yep, that is insane.

That's what I do. Speaking of companies that crush. So I was at the gym the other morning. I totally forgot to tell you guys. And where I go is really nice. I have nice shower, steam room, whatever. And I pull out my little toilet shoe bag and brush my teeth, pull out my caldera.

And the guy next to me is like, oh, pulls his out. So I love that company. I'm like, holy shit. Where did you, I'm like, I'm like, did he listen to Mind Pump? I'm like, where did you find that? And he goes, oh, my buddy's been telling me about it. Bro, that company's blowing up.

I'm now seeing people like all over the place start to use it. And I remember when they were a little bit more obscure when they first started working with us. So Caldera, dude, or Gianna 5, Viori. I'm trying to think however many companies, but there's a handful of companies that we gave them the ability to use our likeness

for their ads and marketing. Yeah. And so I've had a couple people who, and I did too. Yeah, oh, Ned did also. Caldera did, and I think, and Viori, I think are the ones that did. I've had people now reach out and I'm like,

oh my God, you guys are famous, this brand. I was just like, we've been partnering with that brand for like four years. Yeah, forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just like, we've been partnering with that brand for like four years. Yeah, forever. Yeah, yeah. It just happened to be pushing us out on a commercial and they're probably putting tens of thousands dollars behind it so it's like getting millions of eyes on it.

So now I've got a new wave of people in my circle that are messaging me like, oh my God, you got your famous, I've seen, saw you on Viori. I'm like, first of all, we were the first company Viori ever advertised with. And I was like five years ago, I said that we've been working with them because they put some ads out of Facebook. Well, when I was talking to the dude,

I'm like, where'd you hear about Calderon? He's like, oh, my buddy or whatever, he's like, oh, so, and then I told him about the podcast and how we got sponsored. And I said, did you use face products before? And he goes, no. I'm like, me neither. I'm like, but now I use it all the time.

He goes, I know me too, my wife tries to steal it for me. I'm like, deep, my wife too. So. Yeah, I keep, I'm so curious about that. Like, how they classify this, like men's hygiene products, because you know how women, it's like, it's beauty products. Like, that's really how they classify, like, anything with your skin or anything to like give you some kind of like

youthful appearance. But there's a lot more men out there that are like admitting, oh yeah, I'm like, you know, I'm rubbing stuff on this. I don't know what they call it. Beauty. You still call it beauty. Yeah, I don't, I just think there's been a bit of movement in this direction for like the last decade of. And I really think it started on the, you know, metrosexual side, right? First, it was like, if you were a metrosexual guy, if you paint your toenails, or you did things like that,

right, I've been like, Oh, I don't know, that's a little past metro. Yeah, but we know why you did it, dude. Right, so that's a different thing. But I mean, that's been, so that's been a thing for over a decade now. And what I think is happening more than anything else is that guys that would not consider

themselves Metrosexual are like, okay, wait a minute, there's no shame in me taking care of my face. Like, girls want to look good, so the guys want to look good. Old guys don't like wrinkles, just like old girls don't like wrinkles. It's like, I can be a masculine guy and still use a product that is going to help that. I think that's just... I can call it what you want. My wife's the old mine and uses it,

so she likes it. And she's much harder sell than I am, because she's used stuff like, you know, on Facebook. No, I'm super consistent with that. Are you guys, do you ever, like, look at next door that website? We use it all the time.

Okay. So do you read, like, a lot of the different things? Like, well, yeah, besides you get, you get a lot of that of, like, oh, your dog was in my, whoever's dog this is, is shit all over my heart. You know, they're just on there to complain and like, all this stuff.

But every now and then you'll get like some alarming things, like trends of things in your community, or like in the cities, close by and all this stuff. And so like, Courtney always brings these things up to me and then I go in there and I read and it's like, oh, wow, is this like a thing? And then you read all these other comments and follow-ups and things.

And so I'm like, I'm like here for PSA, dude. I need to like put this out there because there's stuff that people should know about. Like, for instance, so we just got a target opened up. And, you know, we're like stoked. Like, we don't have to drive as far because this is a cool, they redid this Kmart and so now I have a nice target that's just open.

But I guess there's been a lot of reports of young women that go in and are getting followed around by two dudes and then they're finding out that like they have a van outside. And what they do is they park it like right next so they scope, you know, young women and they park it right next to it. So basically, they can open it up and throw them in and kidnap them.

Hold on, has anybody got kidnaped? So we got kidnaps. Oh my God. And like, apparently this is like a trend that target even knows about. And like Walmart's's know about like this is a thing that like like a lot of sex Traffickers do like I mean if you're gonna kidnap Why why a target Walmart why why is it because you're kind of like I don't know like you're looking around like especially if it's a grand opening Like a store like women love target. That's a fact. Well, you love target

So you're gonna go where they go. So that makes sense. Yeah, but that's crazy. Crazy. I was like, and right there in our community, you know, and it's like the worst part is like target knows. This is a thing. It's like every time they have a store,

like they have reports and, you know, and it's like, why isn't this like broadcasted like, hey, you know, and like, cause they have security, but it's like, this is when I'm- People just need to be aware of things like that. When I hear shit like this, I want to go vigilante sometimes. It's like, I swear to God.

You ever watch those videos in other countries where like a guy in a motorcycle try to rip a purse off a woman's arm and then all of a sudden- It's like, all of a sudden the mob gets the guy and beats the shit out of them. Oh, that makes my heart wanna- I know, I love that.

I wish that spinning wheel kick that guy did. Oh, do you see that? I have. I love you. He's just blasted. I would love to see another van pull up and watch with dudes that are like, oh, we're gonna watch and see if you try to fuck with someone.

Yeah. I'll start a van that pulls up the van. I don't know if you should though, Justin. You might go too far. Probably should. Don't go to jail. We need Batman. Hey, check this out. You're not what probably should. Don't go to jail. We need Batman.

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All right, here comes the rest of the show. First question is from Patrick Runs lifts eats thoughts on drop sets as a finisher. Okay, so first off, when someone says finisher, what they mean is at the end of a workout, and I'm going to take that out of the question and really just talk about the value or non-value of a drop set, because then we can talk about where you'd want really just talk about the value or non-value of a drop set. Because then we can talk about where you'd want to put it, the value of putting it at the end of the beginning of a workout. So essentially a drop set is when you do a set with an exercise until it gets real intense. And then you drop the weight and then you do more reps. So it's like if

I'm doing laterals and I'm using, let's say, 20 pound dumbbells and I do 10 reps and I'm like, oh, I don't know if I can get another rep, and I drop them, and then I grab 15 pound dumbbells, and then I do maybe four or five more, and then I can't need more. And I put those down, and I go 10 pounds, and so on. So some people call them run the rack, other people call them drop sets. They're high intensity builders. They're very intense.

You get a good pump, easily abused. In other words, if you do these more than every once in a while, I think you'll over train. But I do like them as interruptors. I do like them as ways to kind of get around. They're not all stimulus that you can use to really just shake things up. I mean, I can't imagine doing those for very long is going to produce that great of a result and gains.

It's just too intense. They got really popular in the bodybuilding community. In fact, that's where this term comes from. It's like the finisher exercise. Where you can get in trouble, or where I speak from experience, where I could get into trouble when I was training, kind of like this,

is if I looked at my total, like let's say, chest day, I was training like this. If I looked at my total, let's say chest day, and then the last exercise I love to do finisher would be cable flies. I would do things like this drop set and pump them out like crazy. If I were to evaluate my programming, it'd be like, I did inc did incline bench press, and then I did flat dumbbell press, and then I came over, and then I look at the time that I spent on all of it, it's like, I was actually spending almost as a third of the time

of my workout doing these finisher type exercises, because the pump feels so amazing. And then I had to ask myself, like as far as building quality muscle, am I better off doing that, you know, 10 minutes of that, you know, finisher exercise, you know, pumping sets on this, you know, cable fly, or what I have gotten more value from adding one to two more sets of the incline barbell press and the dumbbell press. And so I think that where you gotta be careful

is you start doing a lot of these finish your type exercises in your routine. And you what it does is you just miss out on some of the bigger bang for your butt type of movements. And the other side is what you said too, is that you tend to over-tax. It's like you didn't need to. It's like you already had a good solid six to eight sets

already of this chest exercise That it's not necessary if anything you are just going to prolong the recovery of that and you just you should be hitting that muscle Again in two or three days and now when that's third day because you had to you over did it with this finisher You now are gonna go into that work less effective. You know what I like the drop sets for, when I'm really limited on time? Yes. And I have like, I can only do one or two sets, and then I make them real intense. Not do it that way.

I mean, and I love that because they remain novel for me, because it doesn't happen that often where I'm like, so confined, I only have a 20 minute workout or something. Obviously that's what I'm running right now, but I'm saying in the past, you know, where I would only have 20 minutes, and it's like, okay, this makes sense right now. Like I'm saying in the past, you know, where I would only have 20 minutes and it's like, okay, this makes sense right now. Like, I haven't done drop sets or, you know,

super sets or even little bits of like mini circuits. Like, I never trained that way. Here's a great time because I'm limited on time. That's how I like to use stuff like that. I mean, to me, it's very similar to like just structuring something like a hundred rep exercise. Like, I'm just trying to get through like, maybe two or three exercises to do a hundred rep exercise. Like I'm just trying to get through like maybe two or three exercises do a hundred reps of.

And it's just like, okay, that shakes it up, but that's not something I'm going to apply all the time. Yeah. And I will say that exercises that tend to lend themselves better to drop sets tend to be single joint. Doing a drop set with a compound lift, ooh, that really is going to fry your body. And some exercises I would never, I don't want to say never, almost never do with drop set

would be like a dead lift. A barbell squat even would be iffy. You can do presses with drop sets, but I like the isolation exercises for drop sets because they're so fatigue based that when you're form. Yeah, and your form starts to break down a little bit and compound lifts when your form breaks down a little bit.

The risk of injury goes up a lot, whereas with a single joint exercise, if I'm swinging a little bit or my form goes off a little bit, it's not nearly as risky. So I don't necessarily like drop sets for calls. I agree with that, but the problem that's what ends up happening is what I was saying. I you end up doing the, you know,

try set push down or cable curls, you're doing these kind of like, and it's like, and then when I look at maybe a week of training, it's like, try set push down or cable curls. You're doing these kind of like, and it's like, and then when I look at maybe a week of training, it's like, I've had all these, the finished junk volume. Yeah, exactly. I have all these finisher exercises that I've done

in the week, and it's like, and when I look at them, and I know the value of those in comparison to, an overhead press, a barbell squat. It's like, man, would I have gained more, or would I have got more value in the pursuit of building muscle, burning body fats, sculpting my physique, which is what I was in the business of, would I have gotten more value from doing a couple more sets

of overhead press or deadlift, and with that same time, and I think the answer is yes. I think eight out of 10 times, yes. Yeah, right? There's a couple times when the drop sets are good and novel, but I agree with you 100%. Which is why I rarely ever program of 10 times yes. Yeah, right? There's a couple times when the drop sets are good and novel, but I agree with you 100%, which is why I rarely ever program them in clients workouts, rarely.

And if I did it was for the novelty, a fact, maybe to build a little stamina in the other thing. Or time, right? To me, time thing makes the most sense. It's like, it's a great tool. You can get great results from it. You know, use it when it'll post. I'll do one, I'll probably do a drop set once a month,

and it's usually with laterals. And it's usually when I have to do shoulders, and I have like 10 minutes. That's it. So there's one more thing that we should add, then, because this matters to, and we talk about this a lot. It's novel, it's different, it's fun. So if there's this part of, I want to shake my workout up, and do that. But the reason why it's important that we answer it the way

we did the beginning is just like, you're not getting more in my opinion, or it's not more valuable than, or, and it could be better to do something potentially else. That doesn't mean that, you know, hey, it's fun to be creative with the workout sometimes and shift your mind. You know who should look into drop sets?

If you've already built a great physique and you've been working out for a long time consistently. But everybody else, the people who tend to be attracted to drop sets are the ones are like, I'm trying to get in shape. I'm trying to get my mind started. It's article. They're the ones that shouldn't be doing that or I saw this guy. Yep. Next question is from Enemooose1992. What is your opinion of the decline bench? I have never added it to my programming. Am I missing out on something

or is it just a pointless movement if I'm doing a flat and incline bench presses? I feel this. Yeah, I think all exercise, I guess, have some value depending on how you're applying them, but the decline is an exercise. It's probably one of the least programmed exercises in the workouts I've ever designed.

Yeah. I think dips, if I'm gonna do a movement where I'm pressing in that angle, I like body weight dips. Mm-hmm. I think they're superior. Yeah. A decline bench, you know what I mean, I'm gonna be this little controversial. Because easier.

I think people like decline pressing. That's not a hard way down the board. That's a fact. Yeah. I went through a period of my life for almost two years where I did decline bench. And it was the only period of my time, or period of my life where I did that. And the sole reason why I like doing it was, because I could put three plates on.

I couldn't put three plates on at that point on a regular bench press, but I could do it on a decline. And so it was just to be able to lift more weight. And when I look back at like the results I got from it, the value that came, just I would, dips, or wastes a period. You could do a weighted dip. So you could load that plenty fine too.. You could do a weighted dip so you could load that plenty fine too.

So you could do a weighted body weight dip and the range of motion that you get in that in comparison to a decline bench. Just, you'll get all the same benefits as the decline in bench press and more. And it's just funky, I've ever, like, because the gym I used to work out at, had your flat bench had your incline, then had the

decline kind of all. And so you just thought you had to hit it one, then the next, then the next. And I remember just working out like that forever. And minimal results. And really, I just never really felt like I was getting a whole lot out of the decline at all. It just felt like a weird exercise. I'm like, you know, like getting blood rushing to my head

and then started to focus more on dips and I had a lot more development as a result. It's one of the worst exercises too to fail at a lift. Like, you know, if you fail at a bench press and it's sitting on your chest, that could be a little scary unless you know how to- Oh my God. You're that failed on an inch neck?

Oh yeah, dude. Like, I've seen people I had to run over and help somebody once because it was like rolling up and down towards his neck. Oh shit dude. Yeah, if I'm trying to target that part of my chest, I'm doing a cable fly or I'm doing dips. I just think that you get way more value. Plus, I mean a regular bench press with good form

is gonna hit the lower chest already pretty well. So from an aesthetic standpoint, I don't see a huge value. Next question is from Lift4carbs. How do you know if you've reached your natural potential for hypertrophy? Don't we have a calculator for this? Yeah, there are calculators and it's based off of like top natural lifters and all that stuff, but there's still estimates. Yeah, I mean, gives you a pretty good idea. It's like the argument of the body fat tests and all these things. It's like, okay, it's not perfect. But-

So this is about muscle size. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, for building. Okay, so the reason why I picked this question is I think it's a silly question, because- You're-

Yes, because here's why I'd tell you it's silly. Well, you know, because this- I used to think about this. I used to think about this all the time. Yeah, yeah. Like, once I understood genetics and I understood like, oh, I'm never gonna look like Arnold, I would think like, what's my natural potential for hypertrophy?

Yeah. Okay, so here's a deal. You have a natural potential for maximum muscle growth, but then you also have a potential for optimal muscle growth for health. And if you work out long enough and you know how to put your supplements and your food intake and optimize everything towards muscle growth.

At some point, you can get to the point where you build more muscle than is optimal for muscle. I know we talk all the time about how building muscle is healthy and it is. And for the average person, build as much muscle as you can. But if you're obsessed about it like I am, I've gotten to points where I've gotten to the point where I've hit my natural potential and realized I'm just too big for my body. I'm realizing that right now.

When my body gets above 200, 205 at like 70% body fat, so I'm really, very lean. But when I get above 205 at this body fat, it just doesn't feel good. I snore, I don't feel as mobile, my body feels, it just doesn't feel as good. So you have your natural max, but do you really want to get there and stay there? I don't know. Is that ours Doug? That is ours.

We have a steroid guy for a muscular potential calculator. Well, we can blame the marketing team. I was gonna say that's like the muscular potential. That dude doesn't look natural to me at all. Hey Doug, can you scroll down? I'm not the natural. It allows you to input your height, your weight, your... So, okay, an enist ankle. And even more generic answer for this person that I can't see is you probably haven't reached it, bro. I mean, the likelihood, and even if you've reached it,

you probably not at it at this moment. Like, I just feel like I've been doing this for over 20 something years, pretty damn consistent at pretty high levels. And I still see improvement in areas. So there's just, but you reached that too though, that point that I said, right? Where you, you, you'll hit that potential and just realize it's just not best for your friend. Oh yeah, no, absolutely.

I mean, that's where we're sitting. In fact, I think it was me who was really pointing that out to you earlier on was just that, my body does not want to be a certain way. And even though I'm ripped, you know, and quote unquote, healthy, you can tell it doesn't, it's not comfortable walking around with that much mass. And even if it's good mass, even if it's all muscle,

it doesn't matter, just it, it feels unnatural for my skeletal structure. And my frame is not Designed to walk around it 240. It's just isn't whether it's 240 and fat or 240 and rip. It don't really matter It matters. It's a difference, right? But it's it's still not ideal What were the measurements on their dug that it's asking for on the calculator? Yes, it's a height wrist ankle body fat So what you do is you go on this and what's the site?

You just search map fitness products and muscular potential calculator. So you go like, or mine pump, muscular potential calculator. Yeah, so you enter those in and it's based off of a formula that was based off of some of the top natural body builders and strength athletes. And so it's gonna give you this general number.

Doesn't mean you'll be able to hit it because this means like you'd be doing everything perfect and the context of everything is ideal. But it does give you. And I think it's relatively accurate. I don't remember what mine was. I don't remember. I remember.

But I do remember when I did it, it didn't seem way off. It seemed like, it seemed like, oh, okay, I could see that about right. So it seems, have you ever done one before Justin? No. You don't really care about that. Justin's potential is 320. Justin has exactly. It's like, oh, okay, I could see that about right. So it seems, have you ever done one before Justin? No, you don't really care about that. Justin's potential is 320. Justin has no, like Justin's like,

I didn't even know we had that. He's like, I don't care. He's like, I don't care. He's that gorgeous man. Where's our PR? Next question is from Fit wicktree. What's the best way to deal with social situations where you're more fitness, nutrition focused

than other people in your circle and they may demonize you for how you go about your way of living. Oh, God. Just don't let it affect you. Look, here's a deal. You know, I'm gonna quote someone else right now but in a world gone wrong, speaking the truth

or doing things the right way means you'll necessarily trigger people around you. So if you eat healthy and you exercise regularly, the odds are if you're in a group of people, because the average person doesn't do that, you're going to be the weirdo. So you got to be okay with it. Don't let it bother you. This was, I went through this a lot with my family as a kid, in which by the way, strengthened me to where, to the point where,

because if you could deal with your family, then you go in social circles and I don't care. But I mean, my family, remember telling my family, now I'm not gonna eat pasta, now I'm not gonna do that. Yes, I need more of this meat. Now I'm gonna go work out for two hours.

Like, my whole family thought I was crazy, my mom thought I was, you know, you're gonna go to a hospital, what's gonna happen here. But, and I had to just constantly push it and fight it. So, you just gotta be confident in what you're doing and accept the fact that you're gonna hang out. Most people you hang out with aren't gonna get it.

It's just the way it is. Do you guys feel like you or do you know anybody that actually subconsciously seeks this attention though? Like they, they, uh, they get, they pull their six pack bags out on the, you know, the restaurant table. And, you know, could I get someone to microwave this and them them them them, I, I never went that far. So I think that there's, I think there's the other side of this too. Like some, some people are just a little bit of a surprise. So for right. Just about. Yeah, a little surprise. And I think that's also why,

so why I'm bringing this up to this person is like, for me, I'm always like, I know where you're going, I see where you're going. I'm always gonna look at myself first and like, you know, are the things that I can do to make them feel more comfortable, right? Like, you don't have to, you can be a prick about it, whatever.

But then I'm always trying to think like, you know, does it come off that way? Like that I'm like, oh, I'm better than you or look how fit I am because I do these things and you guys don't have the discipline to say no to that. And that I'm like, oh, I'm better than you, or look how fit I am because I do these things and you guys don't have the discipline to say no to that. And so I'm really careful about that. Like can I do this in a discrete way,

where I don't make them feel uncomfortable, I don't draw any more attention to myself, and then I still get to live my life the way I want to live my life and make the food choices I want to make. So that's first and foremost, that I would ask myself that. And the other thing is like, if I'm not competing, which I haven't been for a very long time, these are the times when I actually break bread with them. I mean, I can look, I can eat damn near, I'm not

sitting out of McDonald's with any of my friends. I can eat at almost any restaurant and find pretty healthy choices on the menu that it's the difference between them's people saying, hey, you guys wanna go eat pizza? And then you reply and you go, no, no, thanks. I'm just trying to play it for me. Versus, yeah, versus, I'm not gonna eat that garbage. Yeah.

You guys any make everybody else feel, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's all about the language. And I think that's too, when you're around family friends that are going through it. And I think that's really what it is is like, oh, that food's not like, that's not gonna work for me. That's not good.

You're just kind of shitting on all the options around you instead of just picking the ones that are good and not really highlighting the fact that, oh, what was me, I can't have this or, because I'm on such a great path right now. You know, and they've just did. That's a good point. It's really about how you present yourself.

I mean, it comes out to me, I want to say that I feel like I understand some of the people that get all mean about it and make you feel guilty about it. Because it's like, you make them feel bad. Exactly, that's a reflection of how you're... But there are cases where... What they are, there are 100% there is the other,

because listen, I was that, I went through this, okay, I went for this for years consistently where I had to bring Tupperware to every family barbecue and event. And I remember this process of, you know, not giving a fuck, I'm gonna bring my six pack back, I'm gonna do it and then getting to the point where like, oh, that just draws way too much attention to me,

I don't like that. And I don't wanna turn it into like making me feel, you feel guilty. And then it turned into what you were saying, Sal, which is I just like, oh, no, I'm fine. No, thank you. And the only way they would even know I brought my food is if they continue to push and be like, why aren't you eating?

I'd be like, I brought my own food. It's no big deal, you know? And downplay it like that versus, again, you know, throwing it in their face, making them feel guilty. I had one time, I'll never forget this. And I kinda regret how I reacted. Kinda, part of me's like, man, he deserved it,

but I had this, one of my cousins married this guy, so he's cousin through marriage. And we were at a family function, and I wasn't eating the pizza, and I wasn't drinking a bunch of beer, and he kept rousing me about it. What's the big deal, bro? You can just have one thing I'm gonna mess you up.

Come on, have a beer beer and it's like all Night he kept doing this and pointing it out even though I was trying not to make a big scene about it And he's like come on your your your abs are gonna disappear after one time or whatever Anyway, finally I got mad and I walked over where I'm I lifted a shirt and slapped them in the belly And I said this is why and he was saying now I feel kind of bad about it But he was on me all night long about the whole thing. And he shut his mouth really quick. And be a dick about it.

I mean, that's just kind of how that goes. So slap your friends in the belly. I mean, it kind of reminds me a little bit of the, like when you have that friend who's like, they just got saved by Jesus and now they're like, they're Bible thumper everywhere they go. And they're, it's just like, it can become obnoxious. So again, if I'm this person asking this question, I'm always thinking about myself and the contra, things I can't control.

Well, if you really want to convert people to eating healthier, the best way to do it, model it, man. Yeah, it should be comfortable with it. Yeah, confident and comfortable with it. I'm just doing this for me. Yeah, that's, that's it. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have slapped him in the belly. Look, if you like our information, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal and they cost nothing at all.

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