Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1981: How to Kickstart Muscle Growth That Has Stalled, the Benefits of Switching From a Split to a Full Body Workout, How to Spot a Bench Press & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Are you trying to get your biceps to respond? Try these two often-neglected exercises! (2:54) The potential dangers of A.I. (6:12) How cannabinoids can regulate inflammation. (28:24) What the Colorado Experiment highlights. (31:27) How both sides are playing the game. (37:13) Is Elon an alien? (41:07) Dihexa, the limitless peptide. (43:30) Obesity’s connection to hair loss. (46:20) NFTs? (48:12) An interesting theory about Michael Jackson. (50:23) The green juice is clutch while traveling. (53:46) Shout out to @RAWFORUM_FUNCTIONAL_FIT. (54:51) #ListenerLive question #1 - Will I still build muscle coming from a 5/6 day split to a program like MAPS Anabolic? (56:16) #ListenerLive question #2 - What is your advice on how to schedule and program my workouts when parts of my body lag so far behind others? (1:01:16) #ListenerLive question #3 - Any advice on how to gain weight and mass this winter? (1:12:01) #ListenerLive question #4 - What is the best way to spot a bench press? (1:22:36) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** January Promotion: NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTIONS SPECIAL OFFERS! (New to Weightlifting Bundle, Body Transformation Bundle, and New Year Extreme Intensity Bundle) You get massive savings with each offer. How To Do Hammer Curls for HUGE Biceps (BICEP GROWTH!) Reverse Curls Guide Is AI Threatening the Jobs of Designers and Artists? Hitmakers: The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction – Book by Derek Thompson The Colorado Experiment: Fact or Fiction FBI reimbursed Twitter for doing its dirty work on users Dihexa: Usage, Side Effects and Dosage MP Hormones Obesity accelerates hair thinning by stem cell-centric converging mechanisms Kevin Hart, Jimmy Fallon, Madonna Named in Class-Action Suit Alleging Bored Ape Yacht Club NFT Fraud ‘Scheme’ Michael Jackson chemically castrated by dad Joe Jackson, Conrad Murray says | EW.com Visit MASSZYMES by biOptimizers for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP10 at checkout** MAPS Fitness Anabolic MAPS Symmetry MAPS Fitness Prime MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump #1952: How To Bulk The Right Way MAPS 15 Minutes MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Tai Lopez (@tailopez) Instagram Shaun (@rawform_functional_fit) Instagram

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include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Are you trying to get your biceps to respond? Well, try these two often neglected bicep exercises. The first one is the hammer curl. A lot of people don't do that exercise, but it's a phenomenal exercise for the brachialis muscle. The second one is a reverse curl. Almost nobody does this exercise. It is great for the top of the forearms, but again, it also works the brachialis.

This is a flat muscle underneath the bicep, and when you develop it, it pushes the bicep out. And I've had a lot of success with clients on making their arms look better, simply by focusing on those two often neglected exercises. You know that you position this tip for aesthetic purposes, right? But I actually have found this to be a necessary exercise for me to avoid elbow pain. Yeah. So when I was chasing the heavy dead lives and I wasn't doing a lot of these, you know, auxiliary exercises, I was focused purely on just the compound lifts and I was getting stronger and stronger. One of the first things that I sort of noticed, I sort of get in that elbow pain. And of course, addressing it with some wrist and shoulder mobility started to alleviate. But then what kept it from coming back was actually incorporating the

reverse curls or Zotman curls, hammer curls was actually strengthening those muscles and taking them through four-inch emotion. Yeah, well the two important things with biceps when you're looking at variety, one is elbow position. So elbow by my body, elbow in front of me, maybe even elbow up here. And the other one is hand position, the elbow by my body, elbow in front of me, maybe even elbow up here. The other one is hand position, the hand, supernating the hand and pruning the hand. The biceps involved in that. So if all your bicep exercises involved your hands being supernated,

you're actually neglecting, training the bicep in these kind of different ranges of motion. That's why throwing these exercises in often gets people's biceps to finally respond when they've hit a plateau. Yeah, I just know that you got to do this gradually. Oh yeah. With the reverse curl, I remember that was one of those, like I was a bit overzealous, I get him back to doing them because it wasn't something that like I

would just normally program in there. And oh man, I definitely strained my foreign flexor and it was one of those things where it was a, it was definitely a body things where it was it was definitely a body part that was neglected you could tell because the strength wasn't there yet so like to build that gradually up was definitely something I had to take my time with. It's definitely highlighted the fact of how necessary it was for me to address. Yeah I remember going through a

period of really trying to get my hammer curl and reverse curl stronger. And it was mainly through because of judo and jiu-jitsu because a lot of the gripping your hand is in this position. And my arms grew. And my arms grew because those rexercises that I kind of neglected. So it wasn't like I trained my biceps more. It was just that positioning. And I will also say this when it comes to bicep training, a neutral position with the hand is actually more functional, in my opinion, than the supinated grip. You're more often, you're going to grab things with your hands facing each other. And this position here is in the real world. I mean, you need that kind of strength. So if all your bicep

exercises are here, again, you're neglecting an important movement, an important range of motion and just throwing those in. Just swap out some of your supinated curls for hammer curls. And like I said, watch what happens. It was often see some growth. Yeah, it was something like that. You guys are you guys still tracking and paying attention to all the stuff that's going on with the chat GBT and all the AI stuff

that's coming out software for generating, like obviously you saw the the lame trend on Instagram of showing the AI generated pictures. It's pretty wild like how how like I felt like it came out of nowhere. And then I'm seeing it all over the place. I saw the image that Justin had generated the other day. It was just it was blew me away. It looked like a really good piece of art for this new, this new newsletter that we're gonna be releasing soon. And I thought it was like epic. Yeah, our artists, I mean, are a lot of artists

can be put out of business? What I mean by that is like, like, of course, there's like famous artists, right? I'm not talking about the ones that are like, you know, millionaires and, but I'm talking about artists that work for companies. Like freelancers. Yeah, and they create logos and designs,

and those kinds of, it feels like the AI-generated images replace that very easily. I definitely think it's gonna disrupt everything. And I don't really know what that looks like. I'd have to talk to some of these graphic designers because it was just so the image quality and what it generated was way better than I anticipated. And if you think about how much further they can advance that

from where it is right now, and you're just, all you got to do is give it parameters and have it base it off of a style. So unless you're creating a new style that doesn't exist yet, it's fair game for this bot to basically just like, create something within that vein. And it doesn't well. I think that's what I've been most,

I was talking about this with my two friends last day, they were unfamiliar with this stuff. And I was like you have to log in check this out But what's blowing my mind is that every time I've used it It's better than what I would have anticipated. That's the part We knew this was coming we talked about it. It was just and all I thought was like, you know original artists are still always gonna Be way better because it's gonna be you know that that's part of the beauty and the artist how unique and, but I mean, to what you're saying, Justin, you could literally, I guess, tell my buddy last night, like, I mean, I said, for your wife's birthday, I said, have it right, her a love letter, put the, put it in,

in Shakespeare form. And yeah, and add the couple things we have two kids together how old she is to her favorite things like Q it a feeling and watch would it write you you know write something better than something pretty crazy I mean I told him to do that. I haven't I haven't heard back from them when we were discussing how I did the Instagram post with you guys, but I just think it's so crazy how you how can be and how good it will, and how vague and still how good it will be. So here's the challenge. Here's what I'm going to predict.

The challenge is going to be because this technology is so potentially disrupting, there's going to be a legislative battle. Let's going to start to happen where politicians driven by their, you know, who they represent, whatever, are going to try to pass laws to prevent AI from, you know, quote unquote, taking the jobs of people. And then the counter-argument is going to be you are preventing progress, you're preventing advancements with laws like this. For example, when, you know, when the Industrial Revolution happened and machinery was able to do what people used to do by hand, there were definitely places in the world that pass law saying you cannot make rugs

by machine, they have to be made by hand in order to protect their workers. And what ended up happening was they got passed up and they can't produce fast enough, those places actually remain important. Yes, they protected some workers, but progress halted. So I think we're going to see a lot of pressure. Because like with artist, for example, like, how much you want to bet artists and musicians are going to try to lobby and say, we need laws preventing AI from creating music, from creating art or from it being used.

Maybe individuals can do it, but it can't be sold and used. I bet you that's what's going to happen. Well, I don't know that they'll get very far. Honestly, I'm tripping out that simultaneously, it's advancing alongside text because I thought if anything, it would have been AI would have been more text-driven first. The imagery stuff is really crazy to me that it can generate its own version of these like famous artists and do it well. It's not like hokey or anything. So I don't know that they're going to be able to have much of an argument for blocking because it's an original piece still. It's in the style and that's kind of always been great area to begin with.

Well, I think that's the only leg they have to stand on or the argument, because I don't disagree, so they're gonna try how successful they're gonna be. That's the question, like, how the hell would it pass? Because the closest thing that I could see is like, okay, if you cue the AI and you use my name, you use my art as a base, I should get some sort of a royalty, right?

So like if you like, name a, I don't know. That could be an angle though you. Right, like if you type my name in there, I can roll you. That's right, if you use my name specifically. Yeah, but think about how far that'll reach. Every artist, every creator, has bar, stands on the shoulders of giants.

Every time we give advice on fitness, we're probably not the first ones to say that or bring certain topics up. So a law like that could be interpreted in such crazy ways where we prevent any creator from creating anything. That's the challenge. Did we share on the podcast, what Andrew did?

Did we share that on the podcast? When Andrew cued it to write a mind pump episode? Oh yeah. I mean, that was crazy. Like, right up like an outline for an episode. Yeah, and it out, I mean, it really, I mean, it was basic, but what you, and that's what the current tech,

but what you could do is you could have this basic outline, tweak it a little bit, and then you have your outline versus having to create everything for you. Or, or, you know, three other guys, you know, communicate that message and it's really, it's, and it's the formula that we have built over thousands of episodes of learning what works. It took us to get there where this fucking AI, spit it out, you know, I'm saying it in literally like five seconds, spit out an outline that is literally the format of a show.

And I thought, wow, that is, that's crazy. Makes me curious like where we are within audio AI. Like so where they're taking voice clips from people from generating sentences and audio. I'm telling you guys right now that that when people think art, like music and creativity, they think that machines can't touch that.

I don't completely disagree. I think that the machines are, or the AI, I say the machines like this is Terminator. The AI. Sky nets. I think that the AI is gonna figure out, because it's like I got history of music, it's gonna figure out what people like. It might even be able to figure it out better,'s like a history of music. It's gonna figure out what people

like. Yeah. It might even be able to figure it out better and write a formula and create music that taps into. It will because there's the book hit makers talks about this. I mean, most of the the success in music in movies has a formula to it. It does. And that's why that's why it resonates with us is because there is a bit of it that we recognize and that we're drawn like the heroes journey, right? Like that's a part of so many movies because it's a proven formula. We like it. We're drawn to that. The under, you know, the underdog story, right? Like we have these, these, these stories that have already proven that most people are drawn to and like it. And so, and the, and AI's ability to create something, especially when you can

queue it. I mean, I think Doug made some funny comment that would be hilarious. Like, right, or create a mind pump episode of, with, um, Sal, Sal talking in Adam's voice, you know, how fucking funny would that be? If it's, you know, you could, you're me communicating, but in your voice or vice versa, but the way you would, you would talk. And we have the enough dialogue that's recorded that the AI can generate and spit off something that is. We're so, it's so obvious. It's going to happen. It's so

obvious to me we're playing with fire right now, because we don't know like for forever, we've been the smartest creatures on this planet. In a very short, potentially, very short period of time, we will be not just not the smartest, but we'll be surpassed by so much that we will be like ants. That's literally what could potentially happen. Once these ants, I felt that, okay. When I made that dumb little post, like I'm sure the average person sees it, it's like no big deal felt that, okay, when I, when I made that dumb little post, like to,

I'm sure the average person sees it, it's like no big deal to them, okay, but I, I, I knew that I wanted to write something about our friendship and our partnership, right? Like our bond, and I wanted it to be somewhat meaningful. If I were to be completely on, sit down and like put my thoughts on paper and then make sure grammatically it all lines. I mean, that's a half hour for me, probably. Sure. Okay. Give or take. That thing spit that off in five seconds and not only did it spit it off in five seconds, but it was put together better than I think I could have put it together myself. Like that is crazy. Yeah. My first attempt at something like that. And that's

nothing too. Well, we haven't even learned how to use the tool in an even more sophisticated way to make it even better. So the big, oh my God, it's scared. Everybody's worried about this. The big scare is that AI at some point will somehow kill us or control us. Or what I think that's not the worry.

My, what I think the big worry is gonna be That these AI whatever devices or whatever are gonna get so smart and so good that we're gonna be left with nothing to do Yeah, that is a big deal people don't realize is they think that'll be paradise Oh, we don't have to do anything. I don't think people realize That's dangerous. How dangerous that is for mankind. When all of our everything is done for us by machines that are extremely efficient, extremely productive, just inexpensive. This is why this conversation is so revert back.

This is why this conversation is so interesting to me because I didn't really care about the Terminator theories and all the crazy potential, even when we joke back and forth about the dish washing and show you that. To me, what it's doing with copy and with art are two of the most applicable ways I can see this thing disrupting our society, like right away.

And I think the first time that I saw an example this, it was really choppy and bad. I don't remember who I was listening to or who shared an AI Generator. Oh, bro, like a year ago, AI generated a movie script and it was silly. That's right, that's what it was. I was a year ago or two.

Yeah, and it was really ridiculous. It was like, it was, because you fed it like all these different script examples and then it just took the style of it and tried to like mash it all together and it was all, you know, everything was all over the place. You get it? You didn't match it. Yeah, and so that's my previous reference to this.

And so what we've come from just then to now is mind boggling to this. And so what we've come from just then to now is mind-boggling to me. And to me is what is more likely, and I agree with you, Sal, what we're more likely to see is that this thing is going, and it's going to help. I mean, imagine, I mean, I already see how it's going to apply in our business. I mean, we have to write copy all the time. We have to create imagery all the time. If we could just plug in, create a logo that is stylistically like this, done like this, you know, in these parameters, and it spits off something that is beautiful,

and we don't have to pay in artists, thousands of dollars to do that. I mean, that's a big deal. I think Justin's theory is, I think, is right. He's Satan is AI. The Antichrist is AI. That it's gonna solve all of our problems. It's gonna give us everything that we want

and that's gonna, I feel like that was such a great theory. You know? I don't want it to be true though. That's the thing. I'm just, I'm just like, oh man, this lines up too much because if you think about it, like I just don't think it could be one world leader. There's never gonna be that kind of unification amongst all people.

We just see how fractured we are, everywhere, all around the world. Yes, we get moments of some disaster we kind of pull together, but even now it's just been so fractured. So I see that being like the technology just coming in and I'll take over for this for you. I know this is hard, you know, I'll just spit this for you with no effort, you know, and it's just like, it'll make us feel like we're in control because it'll solve our problems for us.

It'll solve all the world's problems. But like I said, we're going to be in a weird situation where we're going to get everything that we want. We're not going to have feel a sense of meaning or danger or whatever. That's not a good place to be for you. It sounds like it is, but we need that. So it's going to be really weird. You see people struggle with just retirement. This is a big deal, by the way. When people retire, there's a very, very, a lot of them are very challenged because they're like, okay, why don't work anymore?

Let them get depressed or whatever? So what's that gonna be like when we're not- So I think we need it. I think we'll just- I think we'll just- I mean, I think what Justin said is right. I think that we are gonna start reverting back to our, I mean, we're gonna see the cycle, I think.

I think we just happen to be living at an interesting time when we're actually gonna see it kinda almost start over a little bit where, I mean, and the example of that is what they're doing right now in the schools. Because teachers are having to combat this new technology, their kids could so easily have a term paper written for them. The only way they can do that is handwrite it in person. You know what I mean, let's talk like a utopian or optimistic,

more optimistic kind of outlook on this is maybe like the technology actually solves a lot of the bigger problems, right? Like all of the things like in terms of like our interactions, like maybe like the friction between countries, like travel, like, and now we just focus on like, it's more like prairie living, you know? It's like we're back to like just handwriting everything.

We're in the community together, we're churning butter. The homage, the turn of the... Well, the technology just takes care of like, the older I get, the more I think the homage probably had something figured out a little bit, you know, with the Hollywood. I really want to interview Ty Lopez

for that exact reason now. I caught a... Cause he lived with them, right? For like two or three years. And he actually talks a little bit. It was in, it was the interview with Graham Steph, and I think it was Graham Steph, and that was interviewing him.

And I actually have never listened to Ty Lopez longer than a, you know, 90 second infomercial that you see him ever because he's a massive internet marketer. And actually listening to him talk for like 10 minutes, I was interested. It was actually very interested in him and his kind of story. And he's got a really unique perspective of making tons and tons of money. And then also having lived with Yamish. And you hear him kind of compare that and say, you know, I don't know if I'm happier now than I was when I live with them. There's a lot of things that you know when you get to kind of have the opportunity to live in both extremes like I have flying around private jets, having the fast cars, having all the money that could buy anything I want, and then also being so disconnected,

like they are from all the technology. He's like, they were the happiest people I've ever met in my life. He's like, he's talking, and I guess there's statistics on this, on the omniscient, as far as like stress, anger. The question anxiety. Yeah, all that's's like unbelievably low.

He's like, it was so unheard of. He comes from a volatile family, I think is backstory. And he's like, it's like unheard of to even raise your voice or to fight. He goes, and it's not like they don't have disagreements, they do, they just, they handle it so different. Did you know that they are,

I forgot what age, but they leave, they leave the omniscient. The age of 15 that runs. They leave, what's the color? I can't remember, but they leave they leave the homage to 15 that wrong years think what's the color? I can't remember but they leave and they live in the modern world for a year right the vast majority of them come back So they go out live however and the vast majority of them end up returning back home. I don't know man It's really strange. Well, I think I mean I've shared on this show before like my experience of reaching the kind of financial goal

I had, I mean, that was a, I mean, for 20 something years of my life, it's much of what I thought about of reaching this place. I'm springing out. And then I run springers, what's called? And then I remember for like a year, you know, I was numb to where, where, how I felt, because it was such a big goal to get to that place.

You were just focused on it. Yeah, I was so focused on it, then I get there and then it was like, yeah, you know, flying all over the place to Vegas, to gamble in the, whatever, right? So, and I did that for like a year and it took at least a salt, which is interesting that they do that. I think it's a year that they do that like.

And after that year or so of kind of doing everything that I wanted to. What a learning experience. I'm over the bottom of my head. I was so unhappy. I was the most unhappy. Like how wild is that? Like not like I was kind of unhappy.

I was like, if I remember a period in my life when I was the most unhealthy and I felt the worst about myself, it was when I reached the place that I thought I wanted to go so bad. That's wild. It's an empty shell. Yeah, we need, you know, what happened, human behavior. Here's what happens when you're left with like where you don't, you're not needed in the sense that you don't have to work, you don't have to really have challenges. What you're left with is hedonism. And this is where people start to really indulge and indulge and indulge in hedonism. And this is where people start to really indulge

and indulge and indulge in hedonism. And that's a very, that's a bottomless pit. And it ends really poorly. And we see this with celebrities and people level, just unlimited access to money and sex and drugs and whatever, and when it's up happening to them. So I don't know what this is going to potentially, I think that's the danger is my point though.

I'm not necessarily thinking that the danger is, we're going to have AI machines trying to kill us or attack us or anything like that. I think the danger is going to be, we're going to get all the stuff that we want, all of our problem solved, work done for us, all this stuff done, and then we're going to be left with like depression, anxiety,

what's going on? We need more drugs, we need more of this. Why am I still, you know, whatever? And you say Adam about the plug and unplugged, what I think that's going to look like is people who devote themselves to spirituality and people that continue down this path of hedonism because I can't think of another answer. If you don't have to work, if you don't have to challenge yourself, if everything's done for you, if you outsource your thinking,

because you think about this right now, you need to learn how to write, learn how to do math, learn how to do stuff. But if in the future, like what's the use of learning this stuff when it's outsourced and the answer is there for you, I think the answer's probably gonna be like a spiritual practice, otherwise what? Like what are you gonna do?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean up until now. Creative VR world where you plug yourself into a simulation and give yourself challenges, maybe that's where right now. No, I already happened to. I mean up until now, I didn't see this happening in our lifetime. I believe that we are heading in this direction, but up until now I couldn't quite see how it was gonna unfold

where I feel like, for the first time, I have what I think is a clear picture of what it's gonna start to look like. And it is in that direction of being unplugged. Exactly what motivates you to be plugged in or unplugged. Okay, I can't speak if that's a spiritual practice versus somebody who is chasing hedonism. I can't speak if that's a spiritual practice versus somebody who is chasing hedonism. I don't know if that's exactly necessarily what's going to be the divide. So much as it is,

there is going to be people who reject it and choose to live a life that is in real, like meeting people and touching other humans in real life and interacting. And there's going to be other people that choose to do it the other way. And there'll probably be pros and cons to both, right? There's going to be some huge advantages to living in this virtual world where you only die virtually or you only, you're the risk that you take or and the consequences that you have are only virtually. So you're more willing to do craze or stuff maybe or you can hit pleasure sensors at a faster rate and get those dopamine hits at a different level than what you can in real life. So there's going to be positives that are also you wouldn't have half of the world plugged

in, but there's going to be other half, I think. It's happening in a lifetime. Yeah, it's happening. It's happening. I believe that now. I didn't believe it before. I believe it was coming, but now I'm like, damn, this is going to see. I already see like how there's way more people that are uncomfortable

in their own skin, you know? And I feel like too, this was somewhat predictive with World of Warcraft. Like it's so immersive in the community, like people would just seriously just stay on this video game and stay home and order in and all they wanted to do was hang out in this world because they could be somebody else. They could be this other thing, this person, this whatever

they created, they created their own reality within this sphere and it was interesting for me to like observe like how that's trickling into real world, like how people want to be called a furry or whatever it is. They want to be this other thing. It's reality. You know, no one wants to talk about this, but it's like, you know, like when are we gonna acknowledge that this is like a real thing that's an issue? Well, I think it's moving too fast for us to do that.

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down so low where you get negative effects. So it's got this wonderful anti-inflammatory effect without a lot of the negatives. And there's a lot of research right now into cannabinoids and inflammation. They're fine. It helps with irritable bowel syndrome, chronic joint pain, back pain, headaches, all the types of issues that we get with the dysregulated inflammatory system.

So, good problem. How would you tell somebody to have insight on the inflammation if it's negative or positive? somebody to have insight on the inflammation if it's negative or positive. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying, so inflammation is part of the muscle building process, so it's a necessary evil and a good thing. And then there's a point of when it's hindering

potentially muscle growth or progress. So the average person, how would you explain that in layman's terms for them to be able to like, is this good or bad inflammation? Yeah, good question. I think what I'm talking about more systemic inflammation. So do you feel chronically stiff? Do you feel like just overall joint pain or chronic joint pain or kind of mild headaches or do you find that your gut is super sensitive

because it tends to be inflamed. Do you move around in a way where you just don't feel loose, you feel really stiff? Well then you might have some dysregulated inflammation. Sometimes you can see in people's skin where their skin looks inflamed and that can also be dysregulated. Now ideally you want to look at diet, sleep, lifestyle because there's a reason that you have dysregulated. Now ideally, you wanna look at diet, sleep, lifestyle, cause there's a reason that you have dysregulated inflammatory signals. However, cannabinoids are interesting

because the way that they operate is they're like a light, they're like a dimmer switch on a light switch. So it doesn't turn the light on or off, but it does regulate the light to keep it from getting too bright or too dark. So cannabinoids do this with your immune system as well. If you have a depressed immune system, it can actually stimulate immune activity.

If you have autoimmune issues with the immune system is too active, it actually can bring it down. So really interesting, and cannabinoids are pretty, this is why it's one of those things, it's like it helps so many different things, is because it helps regulate not necessarily tamp things down or hammer things up. Anyway, pretty cool.

So you guys have heard me talk about the Colorado experience, excuse me, experiment on previous episodes. Is that Casey Leiter? Casey Leiter one? Yeah, so I got to send, I'm gonna send, there's a picture that I found of the Colorado experiment. I'm gonna send this picture to the... Remind me, the famous one where he's doing

the double bicep pose. So Doug, let me send this to you so you can pull it up on the... So he gained like 20 to 50 minutes. No, I mean. So okay, we've talked about this actually multiple times, so why bring it up again? What's the deal?

Because I've just reading more about it. And it's so, so here's a picture of KC Viator from May 1st to May 29th. And it's wild, so here's a picture of KC Viator from May 1st to May 29th. And it's wild because he gained 60, and this was at a university and, I mean, there were scientists there, it's all verified, he gained 63 pounds of lean body mass

in that short period of time. I just think it's wild that this is even possible, but it's a confirmed study. Look at the difference in the guy. May 1st to May 29th, 63 pounder. So to me, what this confirms is what we talked about. Like, so is he on Annabalox here, yes?

He was a pro bodybuilder, so I would assume so. So, I mean, I mean, I think the last time we brought this up, I talked about how, and I think, of course, I had people like, oh, no, you couldn't. I'm like, I wish I, and I've got it actually somewhere. I've, I know I definitely have some old pictures of like where I made some crazy swings. When you take someone who's been lifting for a long time

and I would be a perfect example of doing this right now because I'm so out of my bodybuilding condition. Yeah. But I, and Katrina always trips out. She's like, it's so crazy. You like, you tighten the diet up in one or two weeks and you get after your weight training and it's like your body changes.

It's like, well, that's because of all the work I did before. Muscle memory. Yeah, and so. That's what I'm trying to highlight. So it doesn't take nearly as much effort and work. And so, and I like you bringing this up because I always get these kids that will send me

like these before and after pictures that will be something not even as ridiculous as this. And they're like, how much bullshit is this? And I'm like, well, it's not actually that crazy. If you have an advanced lifter, it's just not likely. And how depleted was the, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not likely

for a non-lifter to get that kind of results at all. Like someone who's just starting, like you're not gonna put 60 pounds of muscle on, absolutely not. But it is not weird for a guy like myself who's been as high as 240 and damn, you're mostly muscle of that, who now walks around it, 225, maybe 180 in muscle.

So you're talking about, I got 60 less pounds of muscle on me right now. Now I don't know if I get all 60 back in one month, probably not that, but I guarantee that I can make a crazy enough, like before and after that people would think that they would have- Yeah, so what you have here, and the reason why I'm highlighting

this is this is a, this is a perfect storm. So Casey Viader was a pro bodybuilder, got injured, or I don't remember what the case was, got sick, lost tons of muscle, okay. So he had tons of muscle, and by the way, Casey Viader is known as being one of the most gifted bodybuilders of all time. He won some of the top bodybuilding championships

at 18 in the 70s. You can look at his pictures of this guy, was he's 18, it was insane. So he had tons of muscle lost that. Right, so that in the fact that he's also a kind of a genetic freak. Genetic freak lost a lot of muscle, probably on anabolic, goes in, in trains for a month,

and that's what happened to him, which is insane. It's crazy what, you know, with the perfect storm. Well, and to me, that's the difference of why I don't think I could make, I don't think I'm a genetic freak at all when it comes to building muscles. So, but I do know that I put enough work in that I could show a dramatic difference. If I had crazy muscle, if if I had that body builder look, even when I was 16 years old, combined with my experience of lifting and bodybuilding, I absolutely think I can make a crazy swing with that. It is wild, right? It is wild, and it highlights what a lot of these people do in the marketing world, right? Oh, they'll take a body builder, they'll make them lose muscle and gain

body fat, and then they'll make them gain it again, and that's their before and after. Yeah, and so, you know, when these kids send these photos, it's like, well, first of all, my response is always, it doesn't matter. You shouldn't be comparing yourself to some random genetic freak stranger, but if you're sending this to me to get validation from me, from me tell you that it's not possible.

I'm not gonna tell you that, it's possible. I've seen crazier shit, so it's not possible. I'm not gonna tell you that. It's possible. I've seen crazier shit. So it's very possible to see these dramatic shifts and the more the more experience, the more time under the iron, years, decades that you've done, the easier this becomes. We've talked about this before,

one of the coolest parts about being in my 40s now. Okay, yeah, I'm not as agile and fast. And you know, I don't look as good maybe as I did when I was 18, 19 years old, but the nice part is, I put so many years on the iron that I keep it. Yeah, it's eat much easier. It's your bounce back. Yeah, it's much easier to keep it.

And then if I do switch gears into like, really wanting to get after it, like my body responds really nice compared to what I did. I mean, do you guys not remember being 21 and like hitting the gym and Diet as hard you could to see incremental change or it was me to how hard it was for me to be over 185 like 12% body Now it's like that's what I would be if I stopped working out. I think it's probably yeah, so it's like it's not permanent Right, there's no such thing as permanent results pretty close so yeah so for the young men and women that listen to this podcast stay the course man and I tell you what it's like it's like

investing you have the more time you put in the keep in that you start investing young and put in a little bit away and being consistent and you know what you may not be a millionaire in a year or two but give it time and believe I don't care what you do for a profession. If you were consistent with being disciplined like that and saving, it's the same thing with like building muscle and building a physique, it'll pay off. All right, so I'm gonna change topics here.

On a previous episode, when we were talking about the Twitter files, Adam, you said that with Twitter, you're like, I don't think there's any nefarious like stuff going on. But now we see that the fb i literally paid twitter three point five million dollars directly to sensor pages that they wanted

so there is now direct directly paid directly yeah i think i already admitted that being wrong about this no no i'm just saying yeah i think i already did this was one of the ones where I was like, oh boy was I off because. Dude, how crazy is that? It's like, that's insane. That's direct.

They're literally telling them, do they say the part of this? The part of this that I think is the most interesting or the craziest part is the lack of outrage. Yeah. Like, I mean, the amount of outrage and craziness that I saw over the last two and a half years and families fighting and, I mean, the amount of outrage and craziness that I saw over the last two and a half years and families fighting and, I mean, just the crazy shit that we've seen

in the last two years. And we find out the government killed fucking JFK and it's paid Twitter to manipulate freaking the news and information we were seeing and people are like nothing still turning a blind eye just chilling. Yeah, just negative normal day. Is it okay? Fuck. So is this more on the sort of wall? My team kind of got what it wanted. Yeah, out of this. And so, you know, if they did kind of bend the rules a little that, yeah, you know, it's whatever it is, it's part for the course. It goes both ways. That's what you have to be careful.

When your, of course, your guy is, you know, in power, doing things, always ask yourself, how would I feel if the other side? If you just switch it out. Because, the next day,

whatever they get away with now is what they'll get away with tomorrow. And people are in and out of office, people are in and out of power. That's so weird to me. That's so scary because even if my guy won from the cheating, I still would be like, this is crazy. Yeah, this is crazy. This is dangerous that we that they have that kind of control and power and that we're okay with it. Like that, it's wild to me.

And I'm not, I'm definitely not a Trump supporter fan, whatever, but to him to be able to, he had to go through trials to prove the fact that he wasn't colluding with people and all of this stuff and get subsolved of all that, but this is deliberate. This is proof in factual data. Yeah, we'll see what happens with it. I'm wondering what's gonna happen with it

or is both sides playing like, yeah, whatever, because they both use this. You know what I mean? They both do this and they both play this game. So I'm wondering if that's why nobody's really hammering it. I mean, I think you're right. I think that there's, I mean, both camps are good. They both have their things that they do. But I mean, I just feel like that's, this is the wrong thing. The thing to be outraged is that there's, I mean, both camps are- Like they both have their things that they do.

And they just feel like that's, this is the wrong thing. The thing to be outraged is that it's just happening. Who cares, left, right? You know what I'm saying? Who did it more, who did it last? Like, I don't even care about that. It's the fact that government can- We cannot have this.

And by the way, if you don't, and for sure, I mean, I was somebody who didn't believe it. If they did it to Twitter, did it to Facebook? They did it to all of them, you two, they did it to all of them. Yeah, why would they just do Twitter? Yeah, no, they did it to all of them. They name, they open it up their books, to free to come in and look at, you know,

who's the benefactor is? Yeah, man. So it's so crazy. Are you, by the way, have you, I heard that Twitter usage by real people is up. And subscribers is up. Is that, oh wow. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it's getting more popular. It's getting more popular. And they're doing more, I mean, they're doing this with less people. I remember they laid off a lot of people. So more with less. Almost have the staff with this, which is kind of new that. That's sort of his pedigree, right?

Like he's done that to so many businesses before. So you know, when I when I shared that open open AI post the Instagram the AI generate. Yeah. I had a couple DMs from people telling me that Elon is responsible for the the software that originally created. What? Did you know any of that? Can you can you do a little digging for me? I haven't even had a check. So you know, fact checks. You mean, I mean, that was actually the club at the person said afterwards. Because he started out at PayPal, right?

And so that was like, I mean, it's just like so much he's been involved in. I know that obviously software engineers and people around him. Yeah, supposedly he's responsible for some of the code that helped kick this off in this direction. By the way, did you guys see who responded? So you saw his poll, right?

Should I step down a CEO and have somebody replace it and they said yes. So the poll voted yes. Did you see who responded to that? Do you remember the dude on my... No, you did. Oh, you mean the dude from my space. Yeah. That was a real tweet.

The real guy who founded my space. I saw that was it real? Yeah, real. He was the picture of himself. From the one at the desk. Bro, can real guy who founded my face. I saw that was it real? Yeah, real. He was a picture of himself from the one at the desk. Bro, can I just add to my house? What do I, he's like this? Like if, if Tom, who doesn't love Tom, if the inventor of my space ends up running Twitter, bro, I, Tom never fucked with us. No, he left to our thing. Yeah, he's just like,

here's a thing for you guys to hang out. Yeah, there was no strings. You know, he got mus hang out. Yeah, and then there was no strings You know he got muscle now Whatever happened to him. I don't know but he commented under it He's gonna take the job some like holy shit. I want to know where he's at or what's on the old now right? He's got to be old now Somebody's got a resurrect my space. I feel yeah, oh is it still it doesn't it still exist? I don't think I Yes, I think you can't go on how you guys doesn't it still exist? I don't think it does. I think it does, because I think you can't go on it.

How you guys got that on? I tried it, because I had my old band on there, and I tried to like get some of our songs. Sounds a better Googler when it comes to files. Yeah, I'm just digging into it. I mean, you get into these articles. But so open AI is artificial intelligence research laboratory based up in, I believe, San Francisco was founded by,

in 2015 by Sam Altman, Elon Musk and others. Wow. So he is involved. I don't know to what extent. I mean, I didn't know he was even involved. So stop doing shit, Elon. That's what is this part. I have actually multiple people after I did that.

They DM me personally and said that, and it wasn't just one person. So that's why I thought this might be, maybe this is true, that he had a hand in the code that wrote the original like open AI stuff. Well, speaking of super smart, I just learned about, and I'm gonna maybe try this peptide called dihexa.

Have you guys heard of this? No, tell. Okay, so I think I have. So do you guys know what BDNF, you've heard me talk about, rain derived, neuropotropic, it I think I have a- So do you guys know what BDNF, you've heard me talk about brain-derived neuropotropic? It's like miracle-girl for the brain. Apparently, this peptide dihexat is like 10 times more powerful than BDNF for the brain.

So using this peptide dramatically increases neural connections, brain cell growth, brain repair. This is like the limitless peptide. They call it that. They call it that. Do you really? That's what they call it. So I mean, I've been reading about, I've never tried it. So glad you're willing to be the guinea pig.

Oh, I'm so, 100% I want to get it. That one actually though. I'm like, dude, anything and everything. Bro, I am down to try and whenever, as long as I'm being monitored or whatever. But here's what this is what it says,

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I mean, interesting. What do you mean when you starting it? I don't know, they're gonna send it to me. Can you, through this, through don't know. They're going to send it to me. Can you, through this, through you. Can we make it a thing for you to give the audience and us? They kind of, oh, 100% we're basically, or bi-weekly, they don't want to. So this is from our partners at mphormones.com. And if you, you know, you can go on there and fill out a form and, you know, see if you

can try peptides or whatever. And they do hormone replacement therapy too. But, yeah, I, now I may take it and not feel good, right? I may not want more dopamine and noradrenaline. It might make me feel shitty or whatever. So we'll see. But from what I've heard from people who take it, they're like, dude, I'm sharp.

I feel so like articulate. I'm like, oh, it's gonna be weird. Oh, wow. Yo, I can't wait. Or maybe I'll just become more annoying. There are some interesting side effects or potential ones anyway. Oh Those are in that stuff. Yeah, reduce the attention. Turn it down.

We're so God Reduce the ability to the guy who can't see me swing five minutes. Oh, God change of taste. Oh my god. You're gonna become Adam. Worse. Adam who can't see me for five minutes. Well, okay, the worst trait to both. Well, I'm just making nervous. Well, I'll know the worst

traits. I'll know. I'll know because you fuckers won't let me get away. Tell me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'll be the first. Well, that's the dopamine. So more dopamine can cause that. However, with people with

attention deficit disorder, it's a dim cell in it. So more dopamine can cause that. However, with people with attention deficit disorder. This is to him selling it. Then more dopamine is everything. I'm just, hey, I mean, try to. Yeah. All I know is somebody's got to be the experience. All I know is as I'm going to try. Yeah, I'm just, hey, I'm glad you're willing to be the guinea pig.

So I can't wait to hear how everything goes down. So we'll see. Another cool, I got some other cool science. Did you know the connecting obesity to hair loss? It actually, yeah, that becoming obese actually can contribute to hair loss in people. So I don't know that. What?

Why? There was a path to that. There was a path to that. You're not getting lack of nutrients. That's the thing. It's not the dude with that. No. It's the depletion. No. It's not the police.

Yeah. Obesity accelerates health. Okay, here we go. Obesity accelerates hair thinning by stem cell centric converging mechanisms. Do you guys know what that means? Yes, I'm gonna do the flux capacitor. Yes, exactly. That's awesome.

I don't know what that means. I guess stem cell inflammatory signals are induced by obesity, which then represses organ regeneration signals So it slows down because hair has to regenerate right has to the stem cells have to regenerate and continue to grow hair Because you're so fat. You can't do it. You can't want me. That's one way to put a hard time squeezing through the skull Some science there. Have you ever seen that before? Have you ever seen like like Strangelo at that written out of the PowerPoint like Adam's teaching people that He's got a he draws a picture He's so fat we can't get the hair the hair fall goes can't get through

We gotta get leader bro. Your hair can't get through on that fat. Oh man. You ever meet somebody? It kind of makes sense. I got a fat face. You ever meet people though with like like where they store body fat like in strange places like I there was a sky they have this guy that worked for me and I swore the back of his head was like he had a nice thick like like like a little like yeah like a hot dog package. Yeah. And he wasn't super overweight. And he had like, he's four. What's the evolutionary benefit of that? Donut. I guess he falls back. He's gonna replace the story. You know, he's all good.

One of you brought up, I think was, I think it was you, Sal, who brought up the, all the NFT lawsuits that are going on. Yeah, there's a bunch of lawsuits going on. Okay, so what's the latest on that? Because I haven't seen anything pop up since you said that. And I was, I'm super curious. It was the the it was the

The freaking board ape one, right? It is so Madonna Jimmy Fallon and are included in this But Jeff Curry because he was a big proponent of this class action lawsuit Basically saying which so you also have step curry Tom Brady and more There's a class action lawsuit filed in federal court That is targeting these people over pushing the board ape yacht club. In other words, I think the lawsuit is saying that they came out to pump it and then dump it. It's like pump it up with stock. Porton bragging. I know. What a year for you. I mean, you lose 600 million to the freaking SBX

that you're living like that. You lose a wife, you're having the worst football season of your career. And now they're gonna sue you on top of that. Oh, his boss. He's gonna sue us. The Niners. Oh, man.

What a mother. A mother's. He'll do that for God. I don't know, man. I'll remember. Suicide watch. I'll remember, two years ago, people talking about NFTs, like they they were just like this is how you make money quite I know quiet right? I feel so quiet on the

bros on the Instagrams You don't see no you ever seen that one meme. It's like you know how crypto bros before and they got like a BMW steering wheel Whatever and then after and they're like holding on to the the seat in front of the bus. Yeah My favorite is though. I posted this one. The one that was like, like it was like, the guy was driving some beat up car and then he had like a cut cut out of a paper, like Mercedes symbol. Oh, and if he was there, there's like a coffee cup that had starbucks on there. It was like all like all fake. So, yeah. So sad. So, I mean, it was weird, right? Because like a few years ago, a couple of years ago, and if teas were super expensive,

tennis shoes, stamps, baseball cards, like, crazy collectible, like it was all the signs of like, yeah, shit's gonna crash pretty soon. We're all there, and so many people don't want to believe it. That's like a, what a study in human psychology, right? Speaking of things, like, you don't wanna believe. So Michael Jackson was like my, one of my favorites of all time, right? And like I didn't even wanna watch that documentary

with everything where they're all coming out. You know, talking about, you know, the, you know, tough to watch when you're a fan. It's terrible, right? Cause like, he was just, he was one of the grace of all time. But I heard this theory Because like he was just, he was one of the grays of all time. But I heard this theory recently that like was just interesting and compelling enough to me like, I wonder if that's true. And I don't know if you guys have heard it or not, but the doctor that actually

was put in prison because I think that they ruled that he was responsible for his death because he overdosed him. He gave him that anesthesia to sleep. Yeah, to sleep. Yeah, definitely. He was saying that his father at a young age of like 12 wanted to keep his voice like high and all that, like it was going through changes and chemically castrated him basically by giving him all these hormones, hormones, and over dust and the hormone.

And so that way, basically, I don't know, this is all total speculation, because you know how they used to do that for choir singer boys. You castrato. That's where the word, they used to do this in, I don't know, look up Il Castrato, the Castrato, so it's spelled away. This was a thing? Bro, these were children, these were boys. They sang, I believe for the Catholic Church, and they would cast right them.

So that that's what it means, that's it. Like that, yeah, forever. What? You didn't know that? Yeah, and this was, when did this happen? Was this in like the 1600s? Oh yeah. 1500s? Yeah, I think it was perhaps in the 18th century. So that'd be what the 17th century. Yeah, so a male singer in the 18th century castrated before puberty

to prevent the soprano or control to voice range from changing. And because I mean there was that one phase. Remember when Michael Jackson was, he was starting to kind of get a little bit of a lower voice and like he had just kind of worked his way out of the Jackson five and I don't know, I just remembered that. And then all of a sudden he's back to like, eh, like his voice was high again. That's crazy, dude. What kind of fucked up should we do to people?

I did not even know that. I didn't even know that was a thing. Yeah. Like how twisted are you to even think of that? They were called Il Kastratto and they were celebrated. Like, oh, they're these wonderful singers. So now the voices of angels. Exactly.

Now were we manipulating these young boys and thinking that they volunteered to do or they would be willing to do it or did you? Oh no, they were part of the, I guess I think it was the church maybe Doug can can look this up. I'm sure they were really they were taking care of and like this is what they did and so it was like it was an honor. They were celebrated and they and they thought that this was a so they would did it willingly potentially. Well I mean they were children. Well I know but my parents were manipulated were manipulating it to believe that it was a okay or don't

do they say where they know like was it for the church or was it just uh yeah say you know maybe origins I don't know where the church for the church. Yeah, it's the roaming Catholic. Let's see here. I don't know that's why the room No, that's what it said up there at the top why he's's looking for that. So I want you to do our other partners or other partner. Oh, Organify. Let's talk about Organify a little bit. I got great message from one of our listeners who took our advice and used the green juice while traveling because they said that they tend to get digestive issues because they're not

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Then use the code mine pump 10 for 10% off any order. All right, here comes the rest of the show. Our first caller is Sharon from Michigan. Hi Sharon, how can we help you? Hi, how are you guys? Good. I'm a little star struck so thanks for taking my call. You got it. But listening to you for a couple of months and you guys? Good. I'm a little star struck, so thanks for taking my call. I'm good.

But listening to you for a couple of months and you guys are awesome. Thank you. You're totally down to earth. So I don't know if they send you the question, but just brief background about me, like I started, like really weight training into the 2013, 2014. When I met Nicole Wilkins, she was a good friend of my husband's and we were dating and just good friend of ours now. And you know, had a lot of great new beginnings

in the first two years and then I'm not as strict. I don't ever wanna be as strict as I was with diet before. But I normally train at a five to six day split. And lately, it's been taking me like, no, because I'll do something else in between. I'm trying to take a rest day. So that five six day split turns into like 10 or 12 days to get it all done. And I was wondering if I was thinking I did purchase maps and a volic. I was wondering if doing a three day full body like that is still as effective.

Oh, hell yes. It's probably more effective. You're going to, yeah, especially considering the challenges that you're having with completing the split, I think you're going to see tremendous results from it. Yeah. And those days in between, you can still do mobility work, you could still do activity,

you know, if you wanna go to the gym and just be active, go for a walk, go for a walk, stretch, whatever, it's totally fine. But that kind of a split tends to be better for most people, even if you're advanced. So, my accent of ball, it comes with two options, pick the advanced option, because that's because you're obviously not a beginner.

And then do the trigger sessions on the off days. Watch what happens. Okay, because I was looking at, I wasn't gonna do the initial phase of it, like the pre-phase of max at max of max at a buck. Yeah, start in phase one. Yeah, you're totally phase one, three days a week,

tried doing two to three trigger sessions on the off days consistently. You'll know within the first two weeks that this is going to work well for you. Did I read your 50? I actually today, I'm 51. Holy cow. Happy birthday. You're looking incredible. I would have never guessed that. You have vampire like Doug. Holy cow. I do sleep like eight hours a night, but it's the best birthday present ever. So because I think you guys are just great and you're like, you're not full of bullshit. So I appreciate it.

Thank you. Well, after a MAPS and a BALLIC, I think you should follow MAPS symmetry. I think you'd like that one as well, especially with your experience exercising. Okay. Yeah, the single joint, the unilateral type exercises,

it'll really balance your body out and sculpt your body, especially after MAPS and a BALLIC. So we'll make sure that you follow symmetry afterwards. I'll send that over to you. Thank you. You got it. Thank you. All right. So you think I can still build muscle with endabolic? You are going to be going away. You're going to blow. You're going to have you ever trained in the like one to five rep range for a few weeks. You ever trained like like just for pure strength? I Well, I have with shoulders because I always want like bigger shoulders You're gonna love this program. Yeah phase one phase one in particular is gonna blow your way

Okay, yeah, and if we don't talk to you after that after symmetry I would go aesthetic Oh, especially since you made a comment about your shoulders and because that program's all about sculpting. Cemetery and then aesthetic. Yep, run it just like that. So we're sending you over symmetry right now and then your anabolic thought process is right on point, so you're right. So do you do anabolic, do symmetry and then if you follow up anything after that, follow it with aesthetic and I think the full body training is gonna do you all.

Yup. Okay, well I'm excited to try it. Thank you guys and have a Merry Christmas. Happy birthday, Sharon. Thank you, Sharon. Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye.

You know, it's funny. The type of person that gets blown away the most by switching to Maps on Obolic is that. Oh, yeah. For sure. Years and years and years. For sure. Training in a split. You You know not really training one to five range. Yeah, oh 100% She's been like what is going on the things that she's like the split what's happening where it takes her 12 days to get all the way through her entire

Oh my god that because it's gonna increase frequency focus on strength I mean she's gonna see I just hope she sticks to it and then follows up with this because I think it's gonna blow her mind. Yeah, I think the big challenge for her, and we should have told her this, is she may feel like I'm not doing enough because she's so used to doing day after day after day. It's always a psychological challenge, yeah.

Especially when people shift to that, but yeah, it's gonna do such crazy things, everybody. And if you do feel that way, and you wanna keep going to the gym, go to the gym, just go for a walk. That's why I did that. Go for a walk, do some mobility stuff, meditate, go to the gym, just go for a walk. That's why I know that. Go for a walk, do some ability stuff, meditate, do some other things that are great for

your health, but trust the process. You stick to the program, follow Anna Boll, call the way through. I promise that you will be happy. Our next caller is Owen from Alabama. Owen, what's happening, man? How can we help you? Hey guys, first of all, I really appreciate you taking my call. I've been a mind-pump listener now for about two months,

relatively new, and just can't even express how much I've learned and appreciated what you guys have done. So just want to express my gratitude for that. Thanks, man. Awesome, I know. Welcome to the party. So a little bit about me just to sort of frame my question and some perspective.

I'm 24 years old. I'm currently getting my PhD right now in mathematics. And I've been a pretty consistent weightlifter now for about five to six years. But before that, I was a long distance runner, the cross country runner in high school, and you know, ran a marathon my senior year. But when I hit college, I really wanted to put on some size, started doing a lot of body building at school, tried to follow, you know, a push pull legs program,

but it ended up more looking like, you know, victim to the classic prioritizing upper body, as opposed to my lower body. And so after a while now, you now, fast forward four or five years, my upper body has significantly progressed more than my lower body. And due to my maybe lack of desire, but I haven't really prioritized recovery with my legs.

I've had some nagging injuries and imbalances that I haven't really been able to get control over. And so just over the past year, the imbalances have gotten increasingly worse. I've gotten some knee pain while squatting, have some little to no internal rotation on my hips, and some hamstring tightness. And my question for you guys revolves around, you know, as I start the new year, I was hoping to have a game plan for the upcoming year, how I want to program my time, and I wanted to know what your advice was for somebody who has such drastic differences. I still would hopefully want to improve my upper body and things

like that, but I have my lower body lagging so far behind. I do have maps prime and maps in a ball. So I was wondering if you guys thought that would be a good thing to do as the New Year starts and how exactly I may modify that for my own personal benefit. You know, this is a and you're on the right track for sure. That's what we do. We'll lay out the whole year for you. This is my one of my biggest critiques about push pull legs routines, especially for a young guy is what ends up happening is we skip the leg one and do a lot of push pull and that's part of the problem. Not to mention the days that you do do legs, you probably feel crushed a lot of times when you get really sore after work. It's hard to push through it. This is why

one of my favorite transitions was moving out of that type of a split and moving more to a full body where you're only doing an exercise or two for your legs and you're getting out of there after six sets, eight sets total and that's all you're doing. You're not doing much more than that. And so you're not as sore, you're not as exhausted

to get through it. And then the frequency of hitting your legs more consistently really brings those up. Antiballic is the first one for sure, and then I would run performance aesthetic in the maybe symmetry or maybe interrupt symmetry in the middle of that. What would you guys do?

I think we should start with symmetry, and here's why, because I think Antiballic is a great program, but you mentioned the nagging pain that you have, and I think symmetry will help balance you out. So I would actually go map symmetry and then map Santa Ballack. And then performance and then aesthetic. And then performance and then aesthetic.

And that's the whole year, right? That's it, that's the whole year. And prime, you want to use the priming sessions before I have your workout. But symmetry is going to help a lot with the imbalances that you're suffering from. For sure. And a lot of that you'll find with the tightness

your body's just being overly protective. And so to be able to kind of isolate one side versus the other, it's gonna help you kind of reveal where the instability lies. And so that's something too, like which then you can take into your priming ahead of time, really pick those very deliberate type of exercises that help kind of open that up for you so your squat

and your deadlift and everything will be better impacted. Now the only challenge is this, you did mention that you're in the PhD process for mathematics, which I can only imagine is quite demanding. What does your schedule look like just normally? Forget the workout part, but what does your schedule look like with classes and studying? Yeah, so right now I'm in right I'm just doing research and teaching so I actually almost always have You know hour or two hour chunks throughout my day where I can work out Usually whenever I want I'm a morning workout person. I usually knock it out right away Okay, and so I can I can almost always get to the gym

Real pretty much every day of the week. Okay good. And then how's your sleep? My sleep's usually phenomenal to be honest. I'm I'm in bed by nine o'clock and I'm usually up around six We're good. We're good then. Yeah, we're good then you're the advice we gave you Otherwise, I would have changed my advice, but I think we're good then. If that's what your schedule looks like and you're not overly stressed or whatever, then you're totally good. What kind of research do you do for mathematics, by the way? Right now I'm in a program that's what's called pure mathematics.

So I'm looking in a field called graph theory, which is really studying networks and the relationship between networks. It's an offshoot of discrete mathematics. Interesting. Yeah, well, you're gonna be solving the future's problem. So cool. Okay, so I wanna address the biggest challenge

you're going to have with the advice of symmetry. So especially for a young guy who's got a lot, does a lot probably is being patient and following the program. I know you've only been listening to us for two months, so it might be a lot to ask, but trust us, and trust that we know what we're doing in programming, and this is where we wanna go.

But the isometric piece to the beginning of that program. It's two weeks. Yeah, is two weeks, do it. It's going to serve you. It's gonna feel very different than anything you've ever done, and almost feel like, oh man, I'm not really doing shit, you're going to be tempted to want to add or do other things. We'll just skip that set. All the effort is in transact, so it's really what you put into it.

Yeah, but it will serve you and trust the process. And it is a two week process when you first get started that we know what we're doing and you'll be okay. But I know that mental psychologically, it it's gonna be the biggest challenge for you because it'll be like, what the fuck am I doing? What is this? And you're gonna want to do more, but trust it.

And I promise you, if you follow the programs that we just laid out for you, did you say you sent him over to send him over to symmetry? Symmetry, yeah. He's already got, I think you already have anabolic, right? Yeah, I have anabolic in split. Yeah, okay, so yeah, so after symmetry, go anabolic then performance then aesthetic and you'll be sick.

Yep. If I was to come across like during the program halfway through or something like that, knee pain while squatting or something like that, do you recommend any way to modify it? So that way it doesn't feel like, all right, well, you know, there goes that first month of my year, start over. Well, with symmetry that first month of my of my year start over.

Well, with symmetry that that shouldn't be an issue, but if you do find some pain in symmetry, slow down, go lighter, and modify your technique so that your knee doesn't hurt, but definitely slow down and go lighter. And with symmetry, that shouldn't be an issue. Start with your strong, so start with the weaker side and side and then copy your weaker side with your stronger side so that you don't do more reps with the stronger side. You could also extend the time length of doing symmetry. You know, run it again.

If it's an issue that needs to be tackled and maybe avoid the five by five portion, the phase four, you know, if you are kind of like dealing with that instability and pain, then go back over again. Yeah. Oh, and I'm gonna. I'm actually gonna have Doug Give you free access to the private forum too That way if you do have something like this is what that forum is great for So if you if something comes up in the middle of the year while you're doing your fall in these programs that you can't figure it out Post it in there tag us and then we'll get to you Yeah, cuz knee pain knee pain almost always comes from either the hips or the ankles of the

feet. It's not the knee itself. So you probably don't have something wrong with your knee. You're probably, there's probably something wrong with your stability or strength or mobility in the hips, ankle or feet. So look there. So when you're watching your form and symmetry and you're doing your unilateral exercise, watch your form. In fact, look in the mirror. You want to watch yourself in the mirror and watch how your knee is tracking, watch how your body's lined up,

and then try to mirror that on both sides. You can add something that crime will help out with too. Big time. Yes, big time. And the forum, this is what the forum is best used for in my opinion. Like this is a lot of people, this is what they'll do. They can't figure something out themselves. They post a video of them doing their squat or their deadlift or whatever it is that we're trying to address.

And like, hey, I'm having knee pain. Here's my squat. Can you guys help me out? And we will be able to see from the way you squat, what's probably going on and then be able to direct you on what to do. And just as much as you can, movements like the 90, 90 90 where we're addressing

that internal rotation, like to be able to do that while you're watching TV and just make it like a frequent ritual. Yeah. Constantly doing it. It doesn't, you know, stress out the body and any means is just something that you're, you're now like reprogramming the way that your body is going to stabilize. So keep, keep that doing that as much as possible. Awesome. Thank you guys so much.

You got it man. Thanks for calling in. Yeah. Yeah. Keep us posted man. Make sure you get in that form. Yeah. I definitely will.

Thank you guys. You got it. Yeah. The a lot of people don't realize that with knee pain in particular knee pain in particular. I mean unless you have an acute injury right And there's actual damage to the knee. It's almost, it's almost always 85 plus percent. It's foot ankle or hip. Knee and elbow are like that.

Both knee and elbow are those areas where people are like, God damn, it's not the elbow, it's not the knee. It's the joints that are closest to it, right? So it's either your ankle or in this case. And what the issue is for people listening, if you're doing a movement and it hurts and you can't kind of figure out why, go lighter, then slow the rep down.

And then as you're doing the rep, see if you can adjust your form with micro adjustments so it doesn't hurt. And that'll tell you quite a bit. So like if I'm doing a squat and I notice a little bit of pain in my knee and I go way lighter and then I'm going down and I go, wait a minute, if I push my knees out a little bit,

oh, the pain is gone now, okay, now I see what I need to do, or I need to get my foot and grip the floor a little bit, or maybe I need to sit back a little more, whatever, right? These little micro adjustments will tell you quite a bit. That's why I say go lighter and slow down, because then you can adjust your form and technique to where it doesn't hurt, and then that tells you something. Our next caller is Justin from Missouri.

Justin, what's happening? How can we help you? Hey, what's up, guys? What's up, man? Hey, I appreciate you taking the time to hear me out and hopefully offer some advice. So my question is kind of about bulking. I have always been on the leaner side and a hard gainer. As you guys say, I've been training or lifting weights for probably over 20 years now with the athletic background.

About six, three, just a hair over 200 pounds right now. Pretty lean. I don't know the exact body fat percentage, but I stay pretty lean. Right now I'm in a bulk. I think I'm in a bulk at 4,000 calories. I've been in that bulk for about four weeks now with really no weight gain. I've been in that box for about four weeks now with really no weight gain. I try to get all my macros with whole foods mostly. So right now my macros are kind of that about about 230 grams of protein a day, 130 grams of fat, and 400 plus grams of carbs. Like I said, the weight isn't really going up. I'm getting a bit stronger, but nothing crazy. So I'm just kind of wondering where to go from here. If you have any advice,

you see his notes. So he, so you kind of have more background too on what he's been. So he comes from a bro split type of training. He found us then switched to an upper lower split. It sounds like you end up splitting up anabolic and stretching it out. What sport, what sport did you play a lot of? I was a basketball guy, so I appreciate all of Adam's four years of love and insight. Well, so here's the other, okay, here and now this might sound, I guess, unmotivating, but you say 6-1 and how much was your body weight? I'm about 6-3 and I'm just over 200.

Over 200 and you're pretty lean. Yeah, you're where I want to be and you've been working out for a long time. Okay, so like every additional pound of muscle is going to be really hard. You've been training a long time. You've hit a pretty, I mean, that 200 pounds lean at your height. You've got your you're eating 4,000 calories. So it is going to be challenging to get any further. So even small increases in strength, they're going to be big wins. Now, the challenge is, especially with people with athletic mindsets, is we tend to not move fast enough. So you'll see some gains, like, God, I want to move even faster, but at your level, and how old are you, by the way? I'll be 39 this month. And you've been working out for a long

time. I mean, you're starting to hit the point now where every added pound of muscle and every 10 pounds in the bar is gonna take a lot longer and it's gonna be really difficult. If I add 10 pounds to my max lift now in a year, I'm like it's ecstatic. Whereas, you know, 15 years ago, I could add 10 pounds to a lift in a week.

No problem. Okay, so advice now. I think changing up your workouts, phasing your rep ranges and bumping your calories more is going to give you a little bit more, looking for. That's kind of tough considering you're already eating 4,000 calories a day. So one way you could do this is you could just add liquid calories to each of your meal. So like dairy, you could add glasses of milk to that. That's an extra 300 calories right there.

You could add protein shakes. You could even add things that are a little bit more palatable because it is difficult to go above 4,000 calories. So things like fruit juices and even the occasional, quote unquote junk food. This is where that becomes valuable because I mean, I know what it feels like to eat 4,000 calories over 200 grams of protein. I get tired, especially to do on a consistent basis. I want to speculate a little bit here.

Any chance, okay, tell me, are you more likely the person when you train in the gym for your hour? Are you more likely to get after it and crush it and break a good sweat? Are you more likely to cruise and kind of have like an easier lifting day? What do you gravitate towards more? Yeah, I'm more likely the first. I mean, I try to get after it and do things the right way.

So I actually think that you doing your best to follow MAP's anabolic to the three day lifting routine and sticking to that and not lifting six days a week is going to serve you. Because what I think you're doing is six days of probably pretty intense lifting for an hour and I think your body is going to respond better with less. And I would go as far to even consider

maps 15 as a routine for a while for you to interrupt how you, I might even, if you were my client, I might even make you do that for the program and then bring you back to Antiballic, and then when we come back to Antiballic, I'd be like, all right, here's the deal. You got the hour to get this in and train, and then that's it.

We're not gonna do extra days of lifting, and I think that the scaling back is actually going to help you build. Yeah, if you do the trigger session, I'll go ahead, Dr. Justin. Oh, I was just wondering, like, step count wise, like, you know, are you still playing basketball? Are you doing, you know, a lot of, like, cardiovascular

on top of all this? No, I really don't do any cardio. I mean, usually on my, like, rest days, I'll do some active rest and just walk for a little bit or something, but I don't run or do anything crazy. And then I gave up basketball because it was just injury after injury at this point in my life.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I go, maps out of Bologna to do the three day version and then do the trigger sessions, be religious about the trigger sessions. A lot of people don't realize how big of a difference the two to three trigger sessions a day on the off days make,

especially with somebody who's advanced. Go easy on them though. No, no, you're just getting a pump. Don't treat it like an athlete. You're just getting a pump. That's all you like an athlete. You're just getting a pump. That's why you get that mistake. So yeah, that's definitely something that can happen. Yeah, and you bring the bands to school.

Off-I-R, you said you teach at a middle school. You can have your bands in the office. And then when you get a chance, do like a 10 minute pumping session on a few body parts. And that's all you're aiming for. And then the three days a week you and the gym follow the program. And I look, it works great for most people.

It works really great for people who've been working out for a long time as they start to approach their 40s. As they start to approach the 40s, dropping the volume makes a big difference. Your body's hyper responsive in the sense that you've been training for so long, your body, really, you're probably overdoing it a little bit. This just happened to me recently.

I've been doing this forever and I have a freaking fitness podcast and this happened to me. I dropped the volume and boom, I hit a PR on my deadlift that I never hit before my entire life. So give that a try. So would you say, and I'm just like trying to find out more

in terms of like what you've done over these 20 years of training, like, where have you lived the most? Does it been mainly in the splits in hypertrophy style or have you gone through a block of just pure power lifts or you didn't functional training? Where do you tend to reside? Yeah, definitely for the bigger chunk of it, it was that hypertrophy training, the body building, the higher reps, and then, it's done one upon you guys a couple of years back, is when I was really the first time I ever lifted heavy.

Like I did, you know, sets of five or less. Like I had never done that before. So that's still pretty novice to me. So I know I mentioned I did go through anabolic, but really I've kind of been living in anesthetic more, and I kind of split that up. Yeah, I would like you to do a block of power lift at something. I'm down for that too. I definitely think that the... I think MAP's in a ball like would be great. Power lift, strong symmetry. Those programs would be great for someone like you.

Yeah. Less is gonna be more, dude. I really do feel that. That's why I was almost leaning towards making you go through a MAP's team, which would probably feel torture for someone like you. Yeah. But it would be more to get the message across to you,

like look at bro, look how much we reduced. And look what happened. And look what happened. Like that, it wouldn't be like, I think it's necessarily the best program for you. It would be more like a lesson I'm trying to teach you. It was like, look how much I'm scaling back on how much you're doing and look how good you feel,

look how strong you feel. So we need to find somewhere in the middle and the fact that you now just told us that you're spending more time as aesthetic, I really think that anabolic and power lift are a better choice for you. And maybe, and I don't know if you do that, we didn't ask this, if you're the type of person

who tends to train to failure a lot, advice might be to leave two in the tank. I think that you're at a place where you're moving enough, you have a fast enough of tables and you're lean enough, you're already having a 4,000 calories, you need that or above just to see any sort of gains. And so things that are going to help you is reducing the intensity, reducing the volume, those types of things may actually be. By the way, Justin, you know, it might not even necessarily be that you're over training, but the reduction in volume is still going to send the signal to build.

You're just not going to burn as many calories. So now that 4,000 calories now becomes a surplus. So sometimes that's all it is as well. So because what I don't want is for you to think, well, I don't feel over trained. Like I feel like I get through the workouts. I feel like I'm not super sore. Sometimes it's like, man, I mean 4,000 calories. I'm just doing too much. You cut it down a little bit. You're still sending a very easier to build. That's right. You're still sending a very effective muscle building. Which that's part of why I was leaning towards the mass 15 is like, I think if I just

cut back on the intense activity that he's doing, I think the extra calories right away will potentially go to building versus you're just constantly burning all those calories. So we'll send you, you already have maps in a ball. We'll send you mass 15. The maps in a ball. We'll send you maps of team. The advanced version would be appropriate for you. And then like I said, I think the programs that you'd like the most, power lifts, strong symmetry and a ball like I think those would be great for you.

Okay, I was thinking about symmetry, so that's good to hear. Cool, awesome. You got it, man. Thanks for calling us. Awesome, thank you guys. You got it, I really want people to understand that programs like maps aesthetic, because maps aesthetic

is a high volume program. It's not meant for people to live in it. Maps aesthetic is for people who've got good experience, good sleep, good recovery. They do three months of it and then they move out of it. It was inspired by me peaking for body bone. You can't do that much volume. Most people will not be able to get away with that much volume year round.

It's just too much. Living the gym. It is. You had to bring it down. You got to bring it back. You got to give yourself times of de-loading. By the way, studies show that people, especially experienced people,

where they build muscle is during the de-load phase. That's where the muscle starts back in the muscle. This is why I think he's going to, I think following either a 15 or sticking to anabolic the way it's written or powerlifts suggestion, that type of programming for him is going to his body's gonna respond to. I went down to a mass 15 protocol and I hit a PR

at 43 years old and the previous time I hit that number, it was even close, I was in my early 30s and it was because I reduced the volume. And by the way, that's the, it sounds like we're selling or pitching mass 15. It's not that mass 15 was so magical. It was just a indicator that you were doing too much. That's right.

And by scaling back like that, that's what the body responded. Our next caller is Amanda from California. Amanda, how's it going? How come we help you? Hi. Hi. I'm a little star-struck just because I mean, I find athletes more admirable than I guess

like actors, so and I've been listening to you guys for six months and you're from Noracal, which is dope. Yeah! I was just going to ask you, I mean, you have the Giants Jersey, your rockin' and you're in the LA area. Oh, I do! Huh? I didn't even realize that.

Yeah. Um, my question's pretty simple, so I'm a even realize that. Yeah. My question's pretty simple. So I'm a female trainer, naturally. And I have a few gentlemen who I train. And we go pretty heavy on the bench press. So and they're getting, they're being very receptive to my programming.

Obviously, they're getting stronger. So me spotting now is getting a little bit to me like nerve wrapping. I'm like I always more nervous like him underneath the way or me trying to figure out. Yeah. So like last one, I mean he was like 2.30 but I bucked 20, 5.10 but I was like holding like a monkey grip and any tips like a I can ask it's and the thing is sometimes it's at a gym or it's at his home. So Yeah, great great great question. So talked about this much. Yeah, so number one if you're and you know this right if you're appropriately adding load

Then the kind of help that they'll need made very minimal. Yeah, it may translate to like 10, 15 pounds of you lifting. Now the question is, what if there's a major issue, right? Like a big row. Yeah, like what if something rare happens like as pectairs or something like that? You're both fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Push the wafer's neck. There's no nice way to put that. You're both fucked. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Here's what you do. It's a bad day at the gym.

Here's what you do is you swim. No, just instead of it, you support the weight so it doesn't roll back on his neck, have him hold it on his chest if he can, then get to one side of the bar and let him know the bar is gonna, it's gonna drop on one side, unload the weight, let the bar flip out,

and you save them. But that's very rare. It's very rare that one side, unload the weight, let the bar flip out, and you saved them. But that's very rare. It's very rare that someone has a catastrophic injury where it's like, that's it, you need to lift all the weight. I've actually never seen that happen. I know what happens, but I've never seen it. I would also encourage these guys, and I know how much us guys like to do this shit.

I would actually try and encourage them to not max out that often. It should be a rare occasion, yeah. You've only done it twice. It's okay. Yeah, okay, cool. Do you have safety bars? The benches you're using, do they have

safety that you can use? Yeah, is that? They have arms underneath, yes. If they have a new bench. Like the racks? Correct, yeah. I haven't done it there yet, but that's actually a good idea.

Yeah, no, well that's the move is to actually do it in a squat rack and put the, and actually so put the bench and set it up on the squat rack, put the safety bars like for squatting where the bench would go. So it's like right where it would be catch right at his throw. That's the place that, I mean, that's the only time I would have a client that I felt like I wasn't secure enough

to help with it. Like if they were lifting a lot of weight and my man had to some happens, I would use safeties in a power cage or squat rack and some benches even come with them. And then you're set. If he drops the weight, the safety's catch it. And then all you gotta do is have him slide out

and you unload them. It's intimidating, but to the cells earlier point, it's really like a 10 to 15 pound difference that you're kind of covering. If he's choosing appropriate weight for himself and he's not like way over shooting. So, but yeah, I can get like, it's pretty sketchy, you know, thinking that you can lift over his head. Like, I'm like spotting, so I'm just trying to like figure out like, okay, so if I hold monkey and if he goes like once out of the other, then I could just flip it this way

then flip it that way. Make sure you have good posture off, so it is you're leaning over. On that note too though, I'm so down for not even thinking of that. That's why I'm so easy fix. And another tip when it comes to spotting, and I know some knucklehead guys are not fans of this, but I always correct them when they act like this, where they don't want you to touch the bar until they need the help. I think that's terrible. That's terrible. You want to keep the bar moving. You want to keep the bar moving. And so when I'm spotting, so let's say, you know, we put weight on the bar that I know that, you know, I know Sal can't get, you know, six of these

things. Maybe he can get like three on his own, but we're going for six. You're talking like 700 pounds. Yeah. So I actually am spotting him with my index fingers right out the gate. So even at one rep, he doesn't even need me. I'm actually riding the weight with my, so I can feel, I can feel the momentum if it's slowing down and I'm just giving,

and if you do a really good job of spotting from right out the gates, you barely have to add anything where you get in trouble is standing back, letting them go to failure and then now they're stuck and then now the two of you together trying it, then you're kind of fucked. So ride the way, ride the way early, ride the weight, right out the gates and if they, and they try and tell you don't, you're the trainers, don't fuck off. This is, this is the better way to train. You do not want to get stuck, and then I help you. That's how you get hurt.

And then, and then- If you've ever failed, you know that once you fail, like your power up put drops is 50%. Yeah, and then everything else kicks in, and that's where injury happens, and so- Yeah. But I know some, you know, bros in the gym, they wanna, oh, I got it, I got it.

It's like the kernel rule. Yeah, it's mostly my, my teenagers too. Yeah. Like, oh, everybody, I can humble you real quick one. Yeah. And two, I like, I always have, you know, like fingertips. Yes, especially when they get the one arm versus the other kind of coming up really quickly. Yeah, it's a nice ability. It's not even worth it.

Yeah, because then you might get the weight to shift on you, create a whole no other problems. But I will say this too, there's a lot of fear, people have a lot of fear with the bench press that if they fail, oh my God, or whatever, I have failed with a barbell and the bench press so many times and there is a technique to getting out from under it. Literally, it's on my chest.

I roll it down to my waist and sit up and then I can get out of the way and I've done it. So many smashes. Smashes your kids, but you know, it's all part of the can get out of the way and I've done it. So many smashes. You're good, but you know, I'm part of the thing. But I'm here and I have more kids. Yeah, then your brains. Yeah.

But the movie is the squat rack, like we said. To be safe, I think if you got that option, that covers you so you don't gonna do any of that crazy shit. And then my advice would be just to always be spotting early so you're not caught up waiting. Now Amanda, as a trainer, do you have prime and prime pro if you don't I'll send you I'll send you those I think those are very valuable I don't know okay. I'll send those over I'll send those over to you before Adam gets really angry She's only been listening for three months. She gets a pass. Okay. Oh, you said oh girl the night

You don't know a lot of human. Yeah. That's good. That's awesome. Now I'm mad. No. Yeah, and if you haven't watched the free webinars, I mean, we're sending you the programs for free, but if you haven't watched the free webinars that we've done on Prime and Prime Pro as a coach and a trainer, extremely valuable. And I've been trying to come up to you some of your life stuff

because my family still lives up there and I was the one to see, are you guys gonna do any other life? Well, I tell you what, you're a trainer and a coach and you still lives up there. And I was the one to see, are you guys gonna do any other live? Well, I tell you what, you're a trainer in a coach and you have family up here. The next time that you were coming up here, email the email that you emailed in, email the email that email is as long as that makes sense. Yeah, email the email that emailed in on already and let us know that you're in town. And you can see if we can have you watch, have you watch, watch a live recording and say

hi. Yeah, thank you. You got it. All right, Amanda. Thank you. I'm using a thank you guys. You say hi. Yeah, thank you. You got it. All right Amanda. Thank you. I'm gonna say thanks guys. You got it. Yeah, safeties.

That duh. Yeah. Yeah. I thought she was already that worried about it. I thought she was already using those and she was just, yeah. Yeah, that's the simple. That's the simple. Yeah, I mean, you don't need a spotter.

If you're doing that by, if you're on your own, that's what you do. Is you use a safeties and you're, and you're totally fine. It could spotter though, man. People don't know that. I know that. I know that. I can do 400 pounds with two fingers, but I'm riding the weight from the get. A good spot, a good spotter with good strength.

Unless you're trying to hit a PR by yourself and you compete and so therefore anybody touching the bar, I'm like, okay, did I do it? I do power lifting, you need that. But if you're working out and you're hitting weights that you're not sure if you can do and you have some spotting, this a good spotter should maintain the bar speed.

Yes. That's the idea, maintain the bar speed. And then you can ask him afterwards, hey, that last rep, were you really helping a lot? Yeah, I was, okay, well then. I can see that. I was that young guy though, I get pissed, somebody was like, don't touch it.

Totally, that's why I made that comment on it. That's such a like, got young guy bro, like, don't touch it, it's like, no, if your goal is to build more muscle to get stronger than bench you want me to to spot you like this that's the way to do it not wait till you fail

and then all your other muscles are now trying to help out my shoulders up there I never use spars now like if I can't do it I can't do it yeah look if you like buying pump head over to minepumpfree.com

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