Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1998: The Benefit of Rack Pulls for Back Development, How to Resume Training After Taking Time Off, the Most Effective Ab Exercises & More

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Don’t be so quick to discredit bro-science! Often, it’s rooted in truth, and they don’t know how to explain it properly. (1:52) The impact of the cold plunge and the value of breath work. (10:33) Sal’s young silly moment. (26:27) Horses DO NOT like Justin. (29:52) Why the guys recommend Magic Spoon for bulking. (34:57) Can cannabis be paired with fitness? (36:24) Why are celebrities so messed up? (38:41) Better sleep, bigger balls! (46:40) Organifi is vegan-friendly. (47:46) ChatGPT’s CRAZY numbers! (49:29) A computer that can read your dreams. (54:54) Shout out to Robb Wolf! (58:12) #Quah question #1 - I’ve been doing conventional deadlifts for a while now and have noticed massive improvements. I’ve seen a lot of debate as to whether rack pulls or conventional deadlifts are better for back development. What are your thoughts on this? (59:27) #Quah question #2 - I want to do the advanced version of Maps 15 and I have an EZ Curl Bar at home but not a straight bar. Are there any significant differences between the two types or would I be ok using the EZ curl for the exercises? (1:03:21) #Quah question #3 - How can I keep my body from swinging when doing hanging leg raises due to core stability issues or is there an alternative movement to replace these? (1:08:55) #Quah question #4 - Should you start a MAPS program over if you had to take a week off due to illness, travel, etc., or pick up where you left off? (1:12:03) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** January Promotion: NEW YEAR’S RESOLUTIONS SPECIAL OFFERS! (New to Weightlifting Bundle, Body Transformation Bundle, and New Year Extreme Intensity Bundle) You get massive savings with each offer. Mind Pump #1822: Wim Hof On How To Control Your Immune System With Breathwork By the numbers: Antidepressant use on the rise Watch Body Brokers | Prime Video Fit Cannabis Girl Marijuana Friendly Gym Shut Down in Colorado BREAK THE STIGMA FITNESS   Jamie Lee Curtis Posts A Picture Of A Naked Child Stuffed Inside A Plastic Bin Hanging On Her Wall, And Users Are Now Saying She Has "Strong Epstein Vibes" Sleep Duration Is Associated With Testis Size in Healthy Young Men ChatGPT hit 1 million users in 5 days: Here's how long it took others This ‘mind-reading' algorithm can decode the pictures in your head All-In Podcast - E111: Microsoft to invest $10B in OpenAI, generative AI hype, America's over-classification problem Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS 15 Minutes Reverse Crunches Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Wim Hof (@iceman_hof) Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf) Instagram

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The issue is they just don't know how to explain it properly. So let's call bro, let's go. You know what, you know what I read the other day that blew my mind really? Yes, so and we can get into other bro science that are you just Just type in the separate you know, it's weird. Okay, so this is something I heard bodybuilders say that I would laugh and scoff at So I'm gonna I'm gonna say say it and I guarantee you have the same reaction right that pre-contest Eating only fish as your source of protein, things the skin.

We've never heard that before. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Things the skin. Chalapia is always the one of choice. Yeah, and so you're like, oh, come on, that's a stupid bro science word. Okay, trip off this. Oh, wow.

So there's different types of collagen protein. There's type one, type two, type three, and type four. If you only eat fish as your source of protein, you're only getting type one. Chicken and beef have type two and three eggs have type four. Type two, three, and four, if you don't get enough of those, the collagen matrix in under the skin, your tendons, your ligaments, actually slowly starts to break down. So you indeed get thinner skin. Now this is not healthy, you can increase your risk of injury because your joints and tendons and ligaments are not strong, but the look that the bodybuilders have been describing,

that's real. So is that all just to kind of get the veins, the popcorn, all that kind of stuff? Yeah, you want your skin to look like paper. Yeah, you know, you want to look as lean and translucent. The thinner your skin looks, the more vascularity, the more striation you're going to see in the muscle. And of course, in a competition of trying to show off your leanness. So now, jellyfish, do you become translucent?

No, no. But I read that, I was, blew my mic, because that's one thing I heard bodybuilders say that I completely, completely disappeared. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, you know, and I remember when I actually used to talk about that, so my counter argument to be like, that's so full of shit, it's not true.

What it is is that Talapia is so low calorie. Yes. They switch over to that. They just get leaner. And so they could have done that with ground turkey or anything else like that, but wow. Isn't that wild? Yes. So, you know why bro science?

For those who are on the subject. So bro science or bodybuilding, you know, whatever wisdom, oftentimes there's some truth in what they say. The challenge of the problem is that they way they explain it. Many times. It makes it stupid. Many times, it's stupid. Many times it's like that actually. There's a, I mean, this happens a lot. This is, again, this is my problem I have

with like the hardcore science community. It's just like, you know, I mean, you think of like, Eastern medicine and stuff like that too, right? So the terminology that they've used to try and explain it, they know something's there. They've been watching it for, and Eastern medicine time hundreds or thousands of years, it's been passed on.

So obviously there's something there. This balances your cheese. Right, but how they communicate it and stuff like that. I remember this when Katrina and I first started dating and she comes from that, she's a massage therapy background and she would say things to me and I would just kind of like chuckle on her brother. She's like, what? Like, she's like, absolutely, this is what I'm, like, you store emotions in your hips. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so, you know,

I'd kind of scoff at like the, the, the explanation, but you know, as time has come out, it's gone on. We've, we've started to accumulate more and more science to support what they're saying, maybe not how they say it. But what they're saying is becomes more and more true as the science starts to unfold. And that's why I'm so careful when you knock on somebody that has that provides info. I had a huge discussion with a surgeon that I trained years ago because I had in my old studio I had an acupuncturist in there and then I'd have you know clients that I had a lot at that time clients that were surgeons and doctors So Western medicine Eastern medicine and one of my clients this this old school surgeon who you know

He first became a surgeon in the 60s like he was about to retire and those back then those old dogs were like kings Like you were a surgeon in those times. Like, what you said was like law, and it was totally different. So, he had this kind of, and I love him to death. He's a good friend of mine still, but he's just really cocky attitude. So, he'd come in and I train him

in the acupuncturist walk-in and have an appointment and he'd laugh. You know, pseudo science, he'd say, or something like that. And so, I'd be like, oh, come on man, like, you know, a lot of people see value. So anyway, we got in this discussion once and he goes, what is this like chi? Like where's the evidence for chi?

And I said, okay, well, let me ask you this as a surgeon. I said, what is referred pain? And he goes, oh, well that's when something hurts in one place, but it means that there may be an issue somewhere else. Classically, left arm pain could mean that you're having a heart attack or heart pain. I said, and what do you think that's related to? It goes, well, your central nervous system.

I said, well, what do you think the needles are doing? I said, it's affecting the CNS, and maybe they explained it through Qi, but maybe what they're doing is working with the CNS to block pain or produce more endorphins or whatever, and I remember the look on his face, and, huh, that could kind of make sense. This is a lot what happens of what happens

in the bodybuilding space. For example, for a long time, they would say, fasted cardio gets you leaner. Wake up, don't eat anything, do cardio. Well, the reality is when all things are controlled, it doesn't accelerate fat loss more than cardio done later on. But the reason why it works for a lot of people is it's more activity. They eat later in the day. They end up eating less calories. So they

end up waking up doing cardio, waiting two hours before they eat and it just tends to result in behaviors that reduce their caloric. You know what else is like this? Spiritual wisdom. And people that you you have somebody who is like a staunch atheist or agnostic and Because they don't want it. They don't want to believe in the big guy up in the sky or something like that They just discredit this whole this whole book You know that's been passed down for thousands of years that there's not like tremendous value in it or because it's told through stories and Parables or whatever that. Oh, this isn't real. It's fake. It's it's a bedtime story It's like man, instead of completely discrediting that maybe there's something of value there and parables or whatever that, oh, this isn't real, it's fake, it's a bedtime story.

It's like, man, instead of completely discrediting that, maybe there's something of value there that has been passed down for a very long time for a very good reason. And it stood to test the time. That's right. Look, when somebody tells you something, when one person or 10 people tell you something, that's anecdote. Anato, can it be true in false? Yes, it can be either true or either false.

When tens of thousands or millions of people over the course of long periods of time tell you something that's now called wisdom. It's different, wisdom is not anecdote. So if a culture has been doing a practice for a thousand years, and we don't have any studies to support it, but they say doing this does this, like eating this, I forgot what the name of them,

these majool dates, majool dates have been used to help promote healthy labor and induce labor in women, for thousands of years, for thousands of years, and people laughed at it, and then they did studies and said, oh look, these dates do ripen the cervix and help reduce the risk of C-section. So anecdote over long periods of time by millions of people that stand the test of time. It's no longer in my opinion the category of

anecdote is now in the category of wisdom. And maybe the way they explain it isn't right, but it works. And it's been observed to work for a long time. So bodybuilding is phenomenal for that because bodybuildings existed now for a hundred years and lots of people have done it. And you hear lots of quote unquote bodybuilding wisdom. And the way they explain it might be wrong, but there's something to what they're saying, especially if it's still something that bodybuilders continue to find value in, you know, 50, 60 years later. Yeah, we just need better interpreters, I think. Like, better people in this space to explain it on a different level.

Another good one is adrenal fatigue. Everybody may find it adrenal fatigue. Well now they call it HPA axis dysfunction. Now, the way they explained it before was your adrenals get fatigued and they get exhausted. Well, this happened to even the functional space with like the vibrating plates and you have always thought it was like a bunch of horseshit but then it's like you realize that what that does is the central nervous system that actually allows your body to then you know it interrupts that signal and those governings that are in place to actually allow you now

to drop in range of motion and we're able to achieve you know, there's all kinds of other benefits to it in terms of like, you know, stimulating the muscles that way, but like, it just wasn't explained to me very well. Are you guys watching the response to, cold plunging and infrared and stuff like that right now? Now, is there like a big counter movement? Yeah, there's a big counter movement right now. So now, if I post something, so funny,

because we've been talking about this for so long now. Yeah, but now I'll do a post yesterday of me getting ready to do the plunge and I was doing the red light. And like now I get at least a couple people that almost always, oh, the science is debunked or. Because it's actually gaining market share now. It is, isn't that funny?

It's like something that, you know, again, like anything about like cold plunging and so on, these are some things that have been in practices. Go disprove Wim Hof. Good luck. Yeah. No. No, I just, and again, they'll try and point to a study

that is measuring something very basic and simple in a short period of time. And it can't get oversold when something suddenly markets. Totally. And so then they'll sell fasting, for example, as the greatest way to burn body fat, and it's different than cutting calories.

You'll never hear one of us on the show talk about replat that replacing, exercise, good nutrition, good sleep, good relationship. I mean, when you look at the hierarchy of things to do and focus on to move the needle in your journey of health. You'll never hear us say that this Trump satellite plunging gets you jack. Yeah, to think that it doesn't come with tremendous benefits

is hilarious to me now. And it's becoming kind of a movement to counter it. You know what it is, first off, because we've been doing this for so long, exercise, sleep, diet, stress, lifestyle. Those things are just there. There's nothing that'll trump those. I always find it cool when something else

can cause benefits that isn't in that category. Like there's a non-dietary intervention and non-exercise intervention, a non-improve your sleep intervention, right? That actually moves the needle to a point where we can measure it for things like recovery, muscle growth, performance,

that kind of stuff. I find that fascinating. And I'm gonna talk about that. Well, I find it also fascinating too when you see, because when we talk about things like fasting or I talk about cold plunge, it's actually the benefits that I talk about are less to do with the benefits

that it's being sold as a lot of times. So that's when I get interested is like, oh wow, there's this thing that's in some sort of intervention or outside the big rocks and only that has shown value towards building muscle or losing body, fat or overall health. And then it also has these other positive benefits. That's when I get excited. And I'm like, oh, this is cool.

This is like a small four minute practice. I can add three times a week into my life. And it has multiple different benefits that are, I mean, to me, that's awesome, no. I feel like some of the biggest benefits of things that cold plunge are the immediate energy boost. It's literally like drinking a cup of coffee. It's amazing.

So I don't know anything that can give me that kind of energy other than a stimulant. And the second thing that I could see the value in, is it does, it can definitely improve your tolerance to cold. Just like the sauna. I'm gonna add to that, right? Improve your tolerance to heat. But I mean, and then immune system is better.

A immune system, 100% for sure, the difference in that, I've seen a big difference. Also too, how you handle day-to-day normal stress. You, you know, I think, like, I think we've talked about before. We haven't had a breathing expert on here, right? This talked all about like breath work and so on that. I mean, Wim Hof a little bit, right?

No, no, no, no, no. We didn't go deep on that. No. But a lot of us don't even realize how we do this like shallow breathing all day long. That was the biggest benefit for me. Right, and you, in order to do that, you can't do that. And let me tell you, part of why it's so difficult all over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world.

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All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. All over the world. like, you know, have that meditative moment where it's like, I'm gonna breathe and I'm gonna get to this transcendent place. And you know, I can't, I can't, it's like, ah, like, the fight, like that, it forces me to actually get into that calmness and that place where I'm actually like, I'm faced with the fact that this is gonna completely smash me if I don't like succumb to it.

And that, talk about, I mean, and that's not something that everyone's touting the study for. No one's selling that. Yeah, no one's selling that, but what a tremendous value. If you recognize that already, you're selling because it's not fat loss muscle pain. I know, right.

But that's what's so funny to me is that there's always this like counter than they're going to attach it to some six week study and be like, oh, look, when you actually compare that to, you know, eating this, or you increase your protein by 10 grams and you'll get just as much of recovery benefits. And you try and throw it out for that one reason. Do you talk about people suffering from anxiety,

depression, and all these things going on mentally right now? This is a great answer for people like me, specifically who just bury a lot of those feelings and just push it down a brace. And you feel like you can just hit every obstacle with just burying down. When that stops working with for you, what do you do? This is an answer.

I remember when I first learned about the importance of breathing because I know that what happens to you or how you feel will affect your breathing. So if you get scared, you breathe differently than if you relax. But also the way you breathe sends a signal to the brain and the body that tells you, you can relax or you can get heightened. Okay, so it's a two-way street. I remember when I first learned about belly breathing.

I had this amazing wellness expert in my studio who I would see do this with clients and I could see the clients being like, oh my god, this is so phenomenal, whatever. So I had her teach me, I went through it and I was like, wow, this is really remarkable. So then I did it on some clients and I was not prepared. I was not prepared for what would happen. The emotions, they cried.

The first woman I had her later, she was all stressed out and I was always trying to help her with that and say, hey, we're gonna try something different. We went into this front room that was kind of open, but dark so it was quiet later down and I had her practice belly breathing and then she started crying. And I was like, I was like, look it up,

like looking for the other person. What do I do right now? And she said, oh my God, that was so relieving. Like I let out some emotions, I didn't know I was storing. And then it happened to get with another client. I was like, okay. This is crazy. This is why I think it's actually,

the reason why it's gaining so much traction is, you know, of course there are, the, you know, things get trendy and there's that. There is that percentage of that. But I mean, I wouldn't, I don't think you would move and get as popular as fastest if it wasn't making huge impacts in people's lives. Impacts to where they feel it and see it.

So like, I don't need to see here in argue studies with you, go do it, go do it for a month and then report back to me and tell me you don't recognize the difference. Actually, the things that get the most resistance are the ones that are hard, right? Like, compound lifts, there's always gonna be this like excess of studies and all of a sudden pop up because everybody's doing, it sees massive value, but the people don't sudden pop up because it's like, you know, like everybody's doing,

it sees massive value, but the people don't want to do it because it's hard, you know, it's like, why should I even do that stupid? 100% they're gonna, they're gonna, you know, that's actually, I think Joe Rogan said, they think he was asked about his routine because he cold punches every morning.

And there is something too about the mental aspect of overcoming, okay, I'm consistently doing this. You never wanna do it. I never wanted to have yet, I'm yet to go. You never get's easy. Yeah, it's like every time I do it's like, I have to like convince myself, it's like, I go, and there's something to be said about starting your day off

with something hard like that that you have to overcome, that's difficult. Yeah. And setting the tone for the day, because honestly, a lot of other decisions throughout the rest of my day are much easier decisions than that one. That one happens to be one of the harder decisions I have to make. Get down your underwear and jump in the spreezing. Yeah.

Right. And stay there. It's like in the morning. Yeah. And so, I mean, again, I mean, how do I measure that and explain that in a through a study? It's really difficult to do that without just telling somebody, hey, go implement it into your life for a while and then report back and tell me if you've seen benefits from it. And I guarantee you will.

Do you guys think, because obviously the biggest market or the easiest way to sell a product, or where you're going to get a blockbuster is in the fat loss segment of our space, right? Fat loss is like everybody knows for sure. If you could show some fat loss or some benefit for fat loss, like that's the money, right? Easy path. But do you guys think that the anti-anxiety portion of our market is going to start to become more lucrative because anxiety is such a big problem? I mean, I think what we're talking about right now is an example of that. I think that that's why it's a part of why it's getting so much traction is I think so many people are affected by this like shallow breathing all day and high anxiety and stress.

And the practice of doing this and learning to belly breathe and take deep breaths and calm yourself is proving to be a value to a lot of people. Even if you're not a big, I wanna build a ton of muscle or I wanna lose a bunch of body fat person, but most people today can connect to anxiety and stress what you have over the last couple years. I have to feel like there's probably a growing amount of people that are like,

what can we do besides pharmaceuticals? What can we do besides pharmaceuticals? What can we do besides chemically ingesting things to solve some of these mental problems, anxieties and stress and depression and besides, even like an exercise of course is like there's going to be stuff for that. But I think that there's growing interest in like ways that you can do this in interest in like ways that you can do this in like something that you can kind of do that's not super crazy. I mean, I agree. My optimistic mind leans that way when I think about what just happened to us for the last two years that, you know, the one positive thing that may have come out of this is that more and more people are opening their eyes to like not waiting for the government or or or or

or pharmacy to come up with the next vaccine or drug and maybe they should start taking action themselves and find ways to do that. I mean, I would hope that that's what is is happening. Yeah, I know that's my that's my glimmer of hope that's still there. We might we might be hitting that soon because the percentage of people now that's on a pharmaceutical is high. I think if you look at all the entire adult population, maybe Doug you can look this up, but it's probably 50%. If you look at the adult, what percentage of adults are on a pharmaceutical drug or a prescription? You probably have to put an A. It's probably 50%.

Above 30 or above 40. Just the adult. I mean, well, I bet that- Because that includes people that are 40. I bet if you go 30 and then that number is, then you go 40 and then it goes on. Oh yeah, I mean- 66% of- And that's all adults you're saying.

All adults. Okay, so try something like this. How many people above 40? Okay, we're all 40, okay? How many above 40 are- Oh, I guarantee it's higher. The older you get. Oh yeah, no, I know what I'm curious about is-

But I think- You know what the fastest growing segment though of the adult population when it comes to drug. And to aging. No, no, the rap gruest, the fastest growing age group in terms of being on a pharmaceuticals younger. Older people have been on drugs for a long time. No, I know that. People are saying these are posture and pain. Like back pain. That's all. So nearly seven and 10 adults aged 40 to 79 used at least one prescription drug in the past 30 days and around one and five used at least five prescription drugs.

Whoa. 20, so close to 20% use five. Yeah. And 70% are on at least one. Okay, so. 40 and above. So why? We may be at a point now where, or getting to it,

I hope, where people who have been using anti-anxiety medication, anti-depressant medication, you know, stimulants or whatever, for long enough, that they're like, okay, this isn't what I thought it would be. Like have you ever talked to some, so I have family members. Well, you know how history's happening right now, right? 50 years from now, we will look back at this time in life when we

introduced a lot of these drugs. And you know how much we're going to, how, how stupid we're going to think about ourselves? Because unless they have better drugs, because, well, I mean, yeah, you're right, unless there's something to come up that actually show, unless they come up with a joke that actually shows a decrease in anxiety and stuff like that in the population. But if you go back and look at when,

and I don't know the timeframe of exactly when these drugs were introduced, but the idea then is to reduce anxiety and depression and things like that. And yet the curve is still on this thing. And so like even your hardcore science nerds will back up like, well, that doesn't. You know, it's funny. Anything lifestyle related that we treat with pharmaceuticals has

continued to get worse. Anything lifestyle related. So look at, and I'm not now. I'm not true. Okay. I'm not talking about infections. I'm not talking about disease. But look at heart disease. Look at cancer rates, dementia, look at anxiety depression. We have lots of drugs that quote unquote treat these things, but all the rates of all of those continues to grow. So does that mean that those medications don't work? Not necessarily.

I think what it shows is what's causing those things, it keeps continuing to get worse and we're not looking at the root cause. Yeah, there's a root cause. So lifestyle factors affect all of those. If you don't change those lifestyle factors, then those drugs might extend your life a little bit, but they're obviously not gonna solve those problems.

So I'm wondering if we're gonna get to the point where enough people have been on Xanax for long enough, where you'd be like, okay, I gotta figure out a better way to solve my anxiety. I've been on, it worked at first, it was amazing, but now I'm like dependent on it. I can go off of it like. That's the hardest part. Yeah.

Is that once you become dependent on it is to go on the other direction. Even if you know better, like you know, like you know, like you're adapting, you got to take more of it. Imagine the money, I'm not going to, I'm not going to go down this, necessarily this road. But imagine the, the some nefarious executives in a board meeting at a pharma company. They're like, all right, we got this medication that definitely gets rid of anxiety immediately. One of the problems is if you take it for more than 30 days in a row or 60 days in a row, you can't just go off because you'll get terrible, terrible side

effects. So you're like, okay, well, so it kind of works, but then it's also addicting and then they can't go off. Like think like the money in that. The money in that. What do you remember? I think Doug, I turned you on. I think you were the only one that actually watched that of us, and I forget the name of it, but there was, I think it was on Amazon that did this documentary on the relationship of the rehab centers with the...

Oh, we all watched some of that. I mean, I watched the whole thing. I don't know if anyone else watched it. Yeah, I don't remember the name of it. Yeah, something, was it like that? I don't know. Let me let me see if I can find it. No, I'll see you call that, but I was like,

if I had to come work the watch, if you have, I mean, because the, there was all these grants and money available. And so people, like California provides a certain amount of grants towards people that are getting, and it's like this massive hustle to the point where they are setting these people up. I mean, the failure rate in those rehabs is above, I think, 80%. It's crazy with their body brokers.

Yes. Yes. That's it. That is worth watching. My blowing to me, what, I mean, I have people in my family that have used rehab centers before, so I've had completely shifted the way I think about something like that as a resource for somebody because how nasty these things are and how much they abuse the people. They changed too, they changed how you qualify someone for some of these medications now. Like, like, I'll throw a spin.

It's like getting marijuana. Oh, it's like that easy now dude when I went when I got my Mara my medical marijuana card back when you had to get that laughable. I remember I went in my knee hurt The doctor said yeah because when you like a lot of comas, yeah, I'm like, oh, you know, I was like you have headaches like Sometimes, okay Yeah, this is wild. Okay Thanks, you know that that's how it is. So it's like that on that one side too.

Dude, I gotta tell you guys, I had a young, stupid moment, even I'm old, and I shouldn't be so stupid the other day. So I was driving. Do you guys ever get this? Like, you ever have in a moment where it taps into your 18-year-old ego, which kind of exists there a little bit? Of course. And it comes out. Especially driving.

I shared that a while back where it raced the kid. You know what I'm saying? I just did that. So I was driving. I was on my way here. I'm driving in this dude in a 10 bar your gloves. I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you do where I'm? Every now and then. See, it was the way it's the money. I knew it. No, it's the shut off. Every now and then I pulled off.

Every now and then I pulled off. So the truth is, the reason why I catch myself not wearing them as much as what I have found is, it's a lot of times I am drinking something when I drive. And so having the leather and holding like a diacochrome or something like that is not ideal with the leather gloves and stuff like that. Get the wet moisture all over it and then I go over and transfer to the,

probably not the best move in the first place. And so, yeah, I'm like, oh, that's probably not good. So I find myself taking it off and on, and I'm like, okay, I use a little less than I thought. One glove, I'm still cool to have, though. So I'm, you just have a better, just to flex. If I was gonna race some kid, I would definitely put a bunch. Oh, you look old.

Oh, you look old. Yeah, it seems you, what motherfucker? Yeah. I was like, oh, never mind. So I'm driving. I'm driving and this dude, this is early in the morning, it's like 6 a.m. 6.30, I'm one of the gym. And I'm driving this dude in Tesla,

like comes up next to me and then just guns it. And I'm like, ah. And I felt that feeling that you get. Like every oldie just got it too. I noticed every older guy knows what I'm talking about where something inside of you, it's like, either you go and you play a pick up basketball game or some kid like says something to you or whatever

and you just feel this little like, huh, let me show. Lidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidlidl and there's no one around. And I was like, oh, am I gonna do this? See, that only happens to me and I'm gonna certain mood. Like, and when we first got the cars, I was like, dude, I was on the throttle. I was just testing it out, like crazy. And then I finally kind of calmed down. But then every now and then, I'll just be kind of in, like a little bit of an angsty mood.

And somebody will do that, and they'll kind of come in. I'm like, I'm getting you. Well, I pull up next to him and he's another older guy. Oh, that's great. And we looked at it and it was a red light and I look over at him and it was like, it was just wonderful experience. Like he looked at me and I looked at him.

There was no smile, there was no head nod. It was literally like a glance and then we looked straight ahead and we both understood when the light turns green, we're gonna go. Yeah. So I put it in sport mode and blah, I hit that 90 and it took off. I was saying he probably stuck with you till about 80 or 90.

Yeah and then I was, that's where those things are gutless. They're super, everyone talks about their zero to 60. Yeah, they're really quick but take that thing to 130 and see what happens. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, then let them pull up next to me and then he gave me one of these. I'm just gonna go for it. Okay, so that, obviously, that has to be like a form of, I don't know this competitiveness amongst, you know, other men where you wanna assert yourself as the alpha,

like it's a way of almost, yeah, like 10,000 years ago, with the horses, that's right, I'm gonna roll up next to you. That's right. You just make a race on the horse, you 10,000 years ago with horses. That's right. I roll up next to Race on the race on the horse, you know, I'm saying you imagine that Look at his horse I'm out dude my horses don't like me did I tell you that I was in Iceland did I was at the back of the pack. I was so mad. You were a horse

Moose his horse was looking at the other horses like dude when I got on it It literally grown. I shit you guys not is like And then and then it started walking over away like trying to lean into the fence and I'm like stop it Yeah, he saw you let's also put it in the horse You know, it's supposed to put it into the horse. I mean, it's supposed to be carried. Where's the Clivesdale? That's hilarious. Oh my God.

I didn't even know you were on the horse. I don't know if you did that. Yeah, I got, yeah. So we were... You're the worst chair. Bro, he isn't where he goes. No, I'm not. You guys are the worst of the ruckus.

You know, his son was hospitalized yesterday, right? Oh, he told me. Yeah, I tell him off-air. Katrina said something like that. He waited to be left. I'm like, no, Adam's gone. I'm trying to know. I want to hear this horse story. So what did you guys do with horses? First of all, why are you writing horse on I'm like, no, Adam's gone. I'm gonna hear this horse story then.

So what did you guys do with horses? And first of all, why are you ready to horse on Iceland? What's here? It was freezing too. So. Yeah, so. Yeah, so well, we did it because we tried to like pack

in as many adventures as we could because we're there with kids and it's like, you won't have like structured days and you don't have advance and things. And so this was one of them where it was like, they have these horses there that they just leave outside, which I think is crazy that they can survive in that kind of like cold to begin with. So they're like hairy, they're kind of smaller,

they're bigger than like ponies, but they're not that big. You gotta get them wrong, please. It's just, can you impose a picture of Justin on a pony? I think that's, no, no, please do that. I hope our editing team can do that. I mean, they gave me the biggest one out of the mix. I was just thinking all over the place and kept rubbing into my horse and it was it was pretty funny like we both had the same problem which was

stupid we both kind of like we're adjusting our our This is different moments of the trip and so we we kind of took a trail that took us up towards the mountain range and then we went past some of these houses in the middle of nowhere but it was like really scenic but it was, it probably was like 20 degrees below, below 20 degrees. And there's a wind chill and everything.

So we're all just, like on these horses like decked out in like as much like, dude as much clothes I could possibly wear and it was so still freezing. So literally any exposed skin you're just gonna be like oh my god this is gonna be like like to the point where it like stings and it burns. You know that kind of cold and so like ever at first is like adjusting this thing and I he's like somewhere else in the pack and like his, his glove falls off, right? And so he's, his hands like numb and like, and then immediately he's just like hunched over. I see him hunched over. I'm like trying to wave for the guy to like grab it because he had to go grab his glove.

And then I'm like, the asshole is trying to capture it on like, uh, Instagram and I'm like trying to like get a good video of it and everything. And then, and then my glove falls out and I'm like trying to like get a good video of it and everything and then my glove falls out And I was like, oh no, so the guy had to go back and get mine But I had mine off for a long time like it was probably like 10 minutes before I finally got my glove back And I was like dude, it was it was painful. Yeah, I was the point. I couldn't even move it and I Classic like influencer mistake and move it and I thought it was a bad, the horse ain't your position. It's all, it's all about that. Fuck you. Classic like influencer mistake, right? But so we get back and like,

Everett just like, and he was being a soldier and he's just like, you know, just kind of hunched over and I'm like, you all right, man, I was brutally cold and he's just like, you know, just starts crying and I'm like, oh man, I'm so sorry, we're trying to warm him up and everything. And then finally, like he kind of gets, we get all these like hand warmers and everything on it. And then he kind of comes back and he's like, that was so much fun. It was amazing. He's like, he bounced back. And so I was like, wow. Good for him.

Good for him. So did he, uh, did they give him his own horse? Yeah. Oh, he's, he has a horse. Ethan has a horse. Oh, okay. So we're all just kind of like, you know, gone on this trail, but I just imagine I was behind everybody did. I mean, yeah, we're like 20 people. When you when you go on trips like this with your kids, do you bring like food like magic spoon and stuff like that just to make it easy? Do you do that? Yeah. Yeah, I do. And they like magic spoon. They like the fruity flavor. Like in a course, you guys are not bringing it on like a thing like that, though. I'm not there. Horseback running. No, no, no, no, no.

No, like we're traveling. Yeah, like we that doing that. I have to travel. Oh, I'm like, three different items I bring a lot. But yeah, that's one of them. Because breakfast is a big one, especially, he, he ever eats most of his calories for breakfast. That's like the entire day. So you wanna take advantage? Yeah, dude, it's like, if I don't get that covered early, like on my whole days, like screwed with him.

Speaking of calories, I've been DMing with some people who are trying to find it tough, difficult to eat enough calories, which is not a common, not as common as people who want to try to eat less, but it isn't issue for some people, they just can't eat enough,

and I've been recommending magic spoon to them because it's so palatable. I love that as a part. It's an easy way. As a post dinner thing. Yeah. I love her to have dinner. And then like, I pro-later, it's like, I mean, that's how I replace my choice of ice cream is what I would prefer to have at

the time, but having something that's loaded with 30, 40 grams of protein post dinner makes me feel like I'm getting this kind of dessert. It tastes like fruit loops. Yeah, it goes down easy and so I love it for bulking. I really do. I think it's I think to increase calories that's so palatable and then you get that much protein. I think it's after dinner to increase calories that's so palatable. And then you get that much protein. I think it's dude after dinner cereal has to become a thing. Yeah, I mean, it's been a thing. I mean, I'm just saying

that nobody's like actually no one really getting markets to that or says I mean, and it's totally a thing. I've that's a I have been jacking the box finally realized. I've had magic. I'm more post, you know, or after seven seven seven PM that I ever have before nine am. Like, when I was a kid, I always, I always, I had a later one. That's what I do. I rarely ever have it for breakfast. It's not a normal breakfast is normally like I say, like I talk about all the time where I we take meat from the dinner and I scramble it with some eggs.

Magical spoon is normally post dinner type of. Dude, speaking of like bulking cutting last stuff, there's a gem in Colorado. I can't say that I didn't try to think of that, that I didn't come up with it or think of doing this at some point as well. And I'm sure you did too Adam. In fact, I think we talked about it.

There's a gem in Colorado called Break the Stigma Fitness. Have you heard of this place? You go in and they provide you, they have bongs and pipes and vaporizers and they provide you with weed and you smoke or vape the weed before during and or after your workout. Remember we had scheduled Ricky Williams to come on the show about three years ago and it all fell through and we were just like, whatever, it wasn't that big of a deal. Although I would have loved to interview Rick Williams,

I think it would have been cool. But he was opening one of the first gyms like that in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. So he was part of that. So he's tied into a bunch of things. I don't quite understand it. I never understood cannabis as a workout.

I mean, I'm, you know, but some people swear by cannabis and yoga, I don't know. I have stretching facilities. Yeah, maybe so I have higher friends that are, that are pro-it and, and they're, these people are gonna like me saying this, but it tends to be the people that advocate

for smoking weed so much that they don't even see it. They're the people that everything is better when you smoke weed. Yeah, yeah. And so you're seeing that movie? You're seeing that movie on weed. It's like they're using it multiple times a day every day, type of deal. Oh man, I'm gonna work out.

And this is like another way they justify being high basically all day long is, oh, there's some benefits. This study shows this or that it's like, come on. I'm a fan of cannabis and I don't see a lot of training performance. It doesn't mean there's not an exception to the role. Does it mean there's somebody who has suffers from crazy anxiety or something that the week is going to be application? Yeah, I'm not going to say that there's not.

But I think- Very with fitness is interesting. And in fact, the majority of people wouldn't see more benefits from high school. When you watch the videos of this gym. And I'm not knocking, it's a gym. So, you know, fitness is fitness, they'll always support it, but you can see the people in the video,

they're like stoners. They're not fitness people. They're like hacky sack in. Yeah. Do curls. Hey, oh my God, Justin. Justin, right? Did you see, I showed you, did you see Jamie Lee Curtis,

what happened to her? No, no, no. Oh, you told me about this dude. What happened to her? This is weird stuff. Why are celebrities so messed up? Like nice. So why do we find out all this stuff?

She posted a picture or a video from Inside Her House on Instagram, on Twitter, I think it was. And people saw something weird in it, zoomed in, and in her house, there's a painting, and it's a child in a naked child in a luggage. Disgusting. And they were like, what the hell kind of pain is this? And then she deleted it immediately.

That's in her house. Yeah. Do you have an image of it, Doug? Oh, you don't want to see it, bro. I mean, I'll show it. I mean, and it's not, like, it's just, it's not a full on, you don't see like the private, but it's, it doesn't look good, bro.

It's like, why would you do that? It's not one of those things where like, you can't really make it out. Somebody's trying to make like, it's on it. Oh, people in the comments, right? They were able to pinpoint the artist. Oh, even who background is that? It's clear enough to know who, it's on people. People in the comments, right? They were able to pinpoint the artists. Oh, even who that currently is. Yeah, it's clear enough to know who the artist is.

Bro, it's like, you're gonna, why would anybody hang this up? Just wait till you see it. Okay, zoom in on that picture if you can. What the fuck? Why would you have that hanging on your wall? Why would anybody put that? I don't care who you are, how valuable it is,

potential, whatever. That's like a creepy looking painting. Why would you have that in your house? You know, it's funny, and then that's so funny how the media immediately will like lambast you as this crazy right-wing conspiracist or whatever you do. Look at that.

Mention Hollywood and pedophilia. What the fuck? Why would you have that in your house? That's awful. That makes me, like, just looking at it, we're taking it off, I did, looking at it for two seconds makes me obsessed. What do have that in your house? That's awful. That makes me, like, just looking at it, we're taking it off, I did, looking at it for two seconds makes me upset. What you're doing in your house.

The definition of it is that like a kid playing in the water. Like, that is not, that looks creepy. No, man, it's a kid in a suitcase. There's Ellen DeGeneres, you hear about her? She did this like video, you know, they do the videos in their at home, like, hey everybody blah, blah, blah, blah, well in the video people paused it

and saw paintings and shit in her house. That is weird stuff. Like it's creepy stuff. And it all points to like abuse and child abuse and weird shit in her house. Yeah. I'm telling you man, these lizard people are real, dude. If you, well here's the thing, yeah, like it's hard

for me to talk, cause like I went through a spell, especially in college, where I'm looking at both symbolism of things and that was used a lot back at the day. And it was very much of how they identified different cults or different secrets of societies or different things. And then you see the way that cities are structured, the way that like,

megalithic structures are erected. It's very deliberate. And to think that, you know, all of that just stopped in the ancient times. Or to coincidence. Or yeah, and then using the same symbols and then bringing them in, you know, and you'll see it in, and you'll see it in movies,

and you'll see it in people's houses. And it's just like, okay, yes, maybe it's coincidental, but also too, if I keep seeing patterns, I'm just a person that pays attention to patterns, that's all. I just watched a video where there was this XCIA agent, I don't know if we'll be able to find it, but this XCIA agent talks about how they get influential people to do what they want. So like CEOs of big corporations

or celebrities. And what they do is they organize or they show up to these parties or like Epstein Island or whatever. And they catch these people in compromising situations, take photos and videos of them, and then they say things like, oh, you want to do that, you want to say that thing? I don't think you should. Oh, you still want to? Well, then we're gonna leak this to the media. And it's a photo of you with this underage person,

or are you cheating on your wife or whatever? I mean, and that's a very, that's an old strategy. It's a very, very old strategy. Yes, since forever. I mean, like with the honey pot, right? Like even for spies, like they would like use sex as a little alien information. Where is the, where's the retired CIA agent person

who's got some sort of a moral foundation who wants to bring light to this stuff and doesn't carry, he's gonna be ostracized. I'll never talk about it. Could you, okay, first of all, if you're in it and you know what they can do, and you have a family, do you think you're gonna say anything? You know the power and the influence?

Well, you see Angelina Jolie's video of what she described about the satanic ritual. Yeah, I mean, so these videos that are out there, but then they pull up Ellen's, they're like, we're completely get dismissed and people are just like, oh, they're just making this up. Or whatever, I don't really know how they justify it,

but it's creepy. Well, the way that, okay, from what I see is it gets dismissed because it's so crazy. Yeah. It's so crazy that you're just like, oh, that's gotta be somebody who's, oh, that's what those right wing nuts always say about those people, or it's a conspiracy theory

is type of thing. Like that's how they dismiss it. Almost, and it seems just so, I think it's because it's so blatant. Like, Ellen's doing a video in her house and she got some of this. You got Jamie like, her, she's doing a video and she's like, they ain't trying to hide that obviously. I mean, people come over their house. Like, you're doing a video.

Like, if it was something you're really trying to be shady about. So I think that's the, what people used to argue it is like, listen, so she's like, I heard something evil and bad and shady and she said, why would she do a video? So I heard, I heard, I read, this is all, now that we're going deep into this space or whatever. I read that as part of their cults or whatever,

that they believe in karma. Okay, oh, by the way, there's a painting that was on Ellen's, I don't know if you can stand that, what is that? I can't, I see scales, is that a hangman thing? Oh, it's, it's, it's, zoom in on it, and there's some meaning behind it. People have broken it down and talked about

what it is and it's satanic and all that stuff. I don't know if you could read, there's a caption, if it says, a figure holding a bloody hand. Scale's a justice, If it says, A figure holding a bloody hand. The scales of justice, yeah, bloody hand, bloody crotch area. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, it's weird.

So I read that that is part of like, this is not eat preload, that's why. It's not eat preload. It's not eat preload. It's not chicken soup for the soul. Yeah, it's exactly like, can we just be like normal? Yeah, it's like blood.

Love, laugh, and be like whatever. So I read these satanic cults, or they believe in karma. So in other words, what you put out, you'll get back. And the way you get away from that, or you avoid getting it back, is if you tell people what you're gonna do. So by putting it out and telling people what you're gonna do,

and doing it away to where people are like, huh, you get a weight, then you avoid the potential of it coming back to help to get you. I mean, so if you make a song, talk about it. There's so much truth in that. Katrina and I talk about this when we talk about before we met each other like, and previous relationships, one of the things that we both had in common when we were going through our single phase in life was You know, I mean, that's part of why core value one of our core values is radical honesty like you see How much further you can get away with stuff when you're just blunt and straightforward about it like you know Hey, yeah, I'm dating five other people like how many people have the ball like how many dudes or girls Had the balls to be honest about something like that when they're out meeting people and it's amazing that you I mean of course you're terribly rare you'll meet somebody who'll be like oh my

God I would never date you if you're dating four or five other people or you're talking to other people it's me or nobody else okay that's fine but there's a lot of people like respect that they're like you know what I'm in the same phase of my life too I don't want to settle down and get married and so I'm okay and you could literally be like yeah Tuesday I have a date with this girl and I'll see you on Friday, and being honest, and upfront about it, you get away with so much more than if I were to act like you're the only one, and then she finds out I'm on a date with somebody else

on Tuesday, then she goes crazy. Yeah, well, okay, so sleeping of, speaking of, uh, sleeping off, full of Freudian, speaking of who's got the balls. Here's a study that just got shared with me. Who's sleeping? Sleeped. Sleep duration is associated with testy size and healthy young men.

Okay, so they found the conclusion that there's a positive, linear, and possible inverse U-shaped relationship between sleep duration and testy's volume. In other words, more sleep, good sleep is connected to bigger balls. And less sleep or not good sleep. Small. What do you like? Who comes out when the combination with the ugly guy? Right? Yeah. You're packing right. You're ugly and you're ugly and you're ugly and you're good sleep. Oh, yeah. I don't know if that means penis. I think this is balls.

No balls. Yeah, just balls. But I mean, both those were balls though, though aren't they this is other balls. This is balls. So is the other one So yeah, the ugly yeah, yeah, yeah, they're both big balls So if you get if you're ugly get some good sleep You If you're really good looking you probably need to focus If you're really good looking, you probably need to focus on sleep. Yeah. Get some sleep. Get some rest.

And say today's episode's also brought to via, or, Organify, right? Oh, I have a, I want to tell you guys. So we have, we have a friend of ours that's a vegan that, one of the challenges that vegans have is obviously getting high quality protein. So I took some, Organify protein from the back over here and gave it to her.

And she, she doesn't work out or anything like that. So it's not like she's trying to build muscle or, but she's relatively health conscious. Anyway, a week into it, she's come to me and she said, she notices a difference in her energy just from adding a scoop or two-scripts approach. It's like, I feel better, I feel healthier. You know the thing that I find most? She don't normally doesn't supplement. So she was obviously low in protein.

The thing that I find most interesting about vegan protein is that, because I'm not, I prefer way, right? I prefer way, it tastes better, you know, high on with that stuff. But I can't, I can't double up on way. So if I'm behind, let's say like, say, I'm 100 grams behind, I'm like, I need to, I'm gonna do a protein shake right now,

and I'm gonna do double, two months. If I need to, I'm going to do a protein shake right now. And I'm going to do double syringe. If I do double serving, it'll, it'll mess my gut up. I can do one. Okay. Double mess my gut up. This is for milk. I'm a sewer because I can, because with vegan protein with organophine, I can do two, three scoops, no problem.

And it doesn't affect me the same way. I haven't tested like the bone broth one that Sal always raves about, but I know that I've learned that about myself with way protein versus vegan protein is if I can have way. And so I can have dairy and moderation, but if I if I overdo it, I definitely will feel a difference versus vegan protein powder. I can double triple up. I can add it. For most people, yeah, most people, it's easier to digest, or they find it easier. I'd say many people find it that way.

So actually, Adam, I want to ask you, you mentioned some statistics on chat GBT earlier. Oh yeah. I want you to bring it up on the podcast. Yeah, y'all, I'll just, It's crazy. I'll give you the numbers that, yeah, that's crazy. I had seen something similar to this already,

but I mean, I did a post actually just talking about life, that it's crazy to me that there's people that are still sleeping on this man, because I mean, listen to these numbers, right? So this was like a little chart on the time it took these companies to reach one million users, some of the most prolific companies in the tech space we know, right?

So Netflix, three and a half years, it took them to reach one million users. Airbnb, two and a half years to reach one million users Facebook okay ten months to reach one million users Spotify five months Instagram two and a half months iPhone 74 days Chat GPT five days

It's how fast. It's spread. I wonder what that now. Oh, I know it's got it's it's probably compounding it. It's crazy. It is. This is version one. Now I'll just say this one. I heard that they were going to go for another round of funding. They're opening it up again, but like the valuation now is insane 20 billion compared to like them not even really the revenues that make anything. Yeah, it's free. Yeah, it's losing. It's losing like a million dollars a day. A day. Yeah, but but people see that I mean like because I mean the whole game and tech was to acquire users and there would be companies that would be in the negative for years Just to try and acquire the users to then prove that now we're gonna be You know money. I don't a lot of people don't realize this. This is very, so we've been talking about chat GPT and what that can mean, you know, like big macro scale, but just in the immediate kind of future,

the close future, people don't realize with how much this technology is gonna up end the internet just from this simple fact right here. Many of these internet companies that Google, one of most profitable companies of all time, they make their money through advertising because they give you a bunch of search options. You ask for something, you search,

and you got a bunch of options and that's how they make their money. Chat GPD just gives you the answer. So that means that Google, which will, in my opinion, and a lot of people's opinion, is gonna get crushed by something like chat GVD. How are they gonna make money? How do you make money when you just give someone the answer?

So they're gonna have to figure out ways. They're gonna, they will, Facebook, Amazon, all these, they will create their own system within their system. So that's like, so the open AI is like this technology can be used by any company. We can adopt and utilize it. They did it that way intentionally. And so in order to monetize it, here's where the legal battles are going to happen.

Well, private companies are going to buy it, right? Which means that they can't. Nobody else will be able to. That's what the money is. Right. I mean, I think the future is exactly how we're trying to use it, right? How we're looking into right now, integrating it into our ecosystem. So basically anything of the same thing like Facebook will do the same thing.

Amazon will do the same thing. Google will say they will have to to stay relevant or else this will surpass it as far as its ability to give you answers. And the fact that it gets more and more accurate as you use it and input more and more things. Well, because I mean, you're already seeing like with Alexa being in the home and then like in your car, you can like voice command and all. It's just applicable everywhere you go like to have it integrated. Yeah, I'm trying to challenge myself to utilize it because I do think too. So, you know,'ve done it a lot of times. I've done it a lot of times. I've done it a lot of times. I've done it a lot of times.

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Well, but no, I'm a prompt today. I was getting kind of frustrated with our marketing team because I was challenging him on like, are you really diving in any kind of dismiss it a little bit? I'm like, bro, like seriously, like, you need to really dig into it. And, and instead of like trying it one time and going like, uh, that's okay. That's you prompting it. That's not it. It doesn't have the cable way. It does. It can't read your mind. It's not. Yeah. But, but if you, if you prompt it generic, you'll get the best generic answer from it. The more detailed your prompt is, the more crazy

it'll give you. And I was showing my other buddy this and I made it write a love letter to his wife. And I said, so I did a generic one first. Just a friend. That was like really good. And then I'm all now watching this. Now put in there that you have two kids together and what she does for a living and like just included. And so then it includes that information and then it becomes very personalized. It definitely felt like it came from him. He's all needs to be realistic. Can you write this in the form of an eighth grade education? Which by the way, you could prop that to do that. You could do that, right? And it would be like, so love you like the rain. Yeah., so the silly people that are still sleeping

on it that think like, oh, it's okay. Or it's like, dude, that's because you can't prop it very well. Dude, that's so weird. Speaking of the technology that it could utilize, do you guys know that they could, they've done this where they can hook up a electrode, I don't know how they do this actually.

I think it's with electrodes. And they can create images based off of your dreams, do you know that? So you'll have a dream and a computer, maybe ducking like this up. So there's a computer that will pull up an image. Do you have those probes, like are they like monitoring your brain while this happens?

I think it has to do with picking up brain waves and they have to like, they have to coach, they have to train the machine. So like you have to picture something, tell the computer what you're picturing, picture something else. So then it starts to be able to read your brain waves. So then when you're sleeping,

it will create images of what you were dreaming of. So essentially it could read your mind. So this technology obviously is in its infancy, but at some point, this could be able to read your mind. I don't want my dreams out there like that. Yeah, it's messed up ones. You know, I see ponies and pickles. That's weird, just like, what do you have ponies and pickles in your trees?

They go together. Did you find a duck? Yeah, so this mind reading algorithm can decode the pictures in your head. Look at that. So new computer program uses brain activity to draw images of airplanes, leopards, and stained glass windows. And then some pictures here. That is like someone thought those and then the computer drew it at the bottom.

We were literally this close to like magic. I mean, AI kind of feels like that, you know what I'm saying? It's really close. I almost started like working on a wand. Yeah. I really want to know what's going to get really upended first, or will it be like, I'm trying to remember. You know what I think is going to be upended first is how we advertise.

How you advertise on Facebook, on Google, on that stuff. So how are you going to advertise? Okay, so the all-in guys were speculating on like where this is going to be like really valuable. For companies like us, it's like you're going to integrate this AI and it's going to crawl all the the users that are interacting with you and learn their behaviors to where it starts to change the website to how it delivers it to each person. Like it knows, okay, so let's say, somebody,

I'm pumped, I'm gonna think about this. Perfectly to somebody, somebody who buys this program, this program, and this program from us. And listen to this episode. Right, and listen to these episodes.

There's a 95% chance that these are their goals. And then all of a sudden, you don't suit the best for you. Right, and we have all that content, so then I would search to feed them exactly what they need to do here. Mine's about the program for 45 year old moms with kids who went off to college.

Oh my gosh, it's like the perfect podcast. Yeah, yeah, so I mean, the people that learn to- That's a wild. If you have a business already and you've already created some, one of an ecosystem of people that are interacting with you and your business, learning to integrate that into there can be unbelievably.

I mean, also not just for like, I mean, of course, the mind goes to sales and making more money, but even just to like giving your customers a better experience, like less of, they're going to get less of what they don't want and more of what they really want. If you give them a better experience, you sell more. Right. like less of they're gonna get less of what they don't want and more of what they really want or a specific and curtailed to them. And you give them a better experience to sell more. Right. I mean, so that's the go ahead. Exactly.

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involve the hips less so that you're getting less of the posture or chain. Do you know where this comes from? Right. Bodybuilders who don't want to, want to make it easier? Well, I mean, they don't say it's because make it easier. They, they don't want their waist to grow. Well, I mean, they don't say it's because make it easier. They don't want their waist to grow. So they take more of the hip hinge out of it to make it more back heavy by taking rack pulls. And then that's their argument is we take out the more the hip dominant part of the exercise

so your hips, so your waist doesn't grow. Bodybuilders always try to isolate, right? Yeah, it's a dumb idea. I mean, rack pulls have value and they have value when you have a sticking point and you're using it to compliment, like when you're doing lots of deadlifting, one of the things you'd be careful is not over training and deadlifting too much, right? And so, you know, let's say you have like your low back is pretty fried because you went pretty heavy on Monday And then again, here you are on Wednesday, you're gonna deadlift again and you're like, I just don't, here's a chance where I might

Rack pull because I want to give my low back a little bit of rest, right? And then, but yet still train train Deadlifting's or something that complements my deadlift But the what you're seeing if you're referring to like the bodybuilding community that you know advocates for a rack pulls because it hits more of the back than a conventional deadlift is this this idea that conventional deadlifting is going to grow your waist and and that's not good for compared. Yeah, that doesn't make sense because with a rack pull you can add more load. You're still going to load the waist like yes. I mean you're not gonna grow your waste any substantial

Yeah, I would imagine that's part of it too It's just the ego portion of being able to load it quite substantially more that feeds into it Maybe you know, you know what I think I think with bodybuilders They don't know where to put deadlifts because yeah most bodybuilder's high-level bodybuilders training these like body splits, where today is chest and shoulders, and tomorrow's biceps and triceps, and then it's back, and then it's chest, and then it's legs. And they look at a deadlift, and they go,

what day do I put it on? Leg day, or back day? And if I put it on back day, what about leg day, the following day, or before that? And I think that's one of the big challenges. The truth is, for most people, conventional deadlifts is your best bet. Rackpoll should not replace conventional deadlifts.

Now, do I think rackpolls have value? I do. I think pulling from different heights and ranges of motion is phenomenal for back and strength development. But as an adjuvant, as something that you add to your conventional deadlift, not to compliment your deadlift training. I mean, you'll never find a power lift

who doesn't utilize deficit debts and rack pulls. Right. When you're deadlifting at such a high volume, back to my original point, like one of the things that I always had to kind of check myself on is like, this desire to want to keep loading the bar and live more and I was deadlifting three times a week back then. And I you can't lift heavy deadlifts three times a week all the time. And I'd have to start to change at least one or two of those out with like

lighter way deficit deadlifts one day or rack pulls another day to give my body and CNS a little bit of break on hammering it all time on deadlifts. day or rack pulls another day to give my body and CNS a little bit of break on hammering it all time on deadlifts. But what this person is talking about, they're referencing the bodybuilding community that tries to justify the rack pulls as a better back development exercise. And it's like no, conventional deadlift, bro, you'll be fine. Next question is from Mr. JB Brown. I want to do the advanced version of Maps 15 and have an easy curl bar at home, but not a straight bar. Are there any significant differences between the two types or would I be okay using the easy curl for the exercise? Yeah, so easy curl bar

isn't going to work very well for bench press for squats, for deadlifts, because the bar is shorter and because it's got those angles in between, you're not going to be able to place it very well on your back like when you do squats, it's going to be hard to grab. Easy curl bars are great for curls. I prefer them over straight bars because when I supinate really hard, sometimes it doesn't feel great on my wrist and this is probably based on morphology, some people are okay with it, some people aren't. But that's pretty much it, like trying to deadlift with it's a short bar, it's really short,

it's not gonna be able to hold much weight. You might be able to deadlift with it, maybe I can't, because it's too narrow. I mean, here's the thing, what we've talked about this before, like no exercise done safely is a bad exercise. Deadlifting, binge posting squat, I wouldn't recommend any of that stuff. Deadlifting, bench-posting squat, I wouldn't recommend any of that stuff.

Could you, is it better than you doing absolutely nothing? Of course it is. I mean, for the time being, you could try and do it with these things, but then I would be asking for my birthday if somebody could get me. I mean, the straight car reminds you guys of when we had those like sand loaded like plates. Oh, under kids. Oh, we were kids.

Yeah, we were kids. And then the bench was literally this wide. You know, you're like this. So, I mean, we tried our best to make it work. And it's not ideal, but like, to be able to do all those exercises with the easy curl bar would, you know, it's gonna look silly

and it's gonna be uncomfortable and weird. And I'm just squatting with that. And how would you rack it? Like a squat rack won't allow you to rack it. You would have to do a weight that you could press and set down. That's what I mean. Like, you could do so. You could row with it.

You could press with it, even though it's gonna be more like an enclosed bench press. You could deadlift with it, even though you're not gonna be able to load it that much and you'd probably grab wide. Up there, outside. On the outside, right? So I mean, there's definitely, okay, if I was stuck in prison

and how was it for somebody to get a easy curl bar? Like I would find ways to squat within and dead live and do stuff with it. You know, you could buy, and these aren't gonna be the greatest. But you can get a straight bar for cheat, dude. Yeah, you can buy one on Amazon for 40 or 50 bucks. You're not gonna be able to load it more than 400 pounds,

but this person probably isn't. So I would, I'd just do that, go on, Amazon. What are you saying, what do we misunderstand? So I grabbed this question and I misunderstood it. I was actually thinking about for curls, you know, is there a difference between the easy curl bar for curls or for- Why did you word it in different than with the person put? I don't think so, I think just miss reddit, so okay, so read it to it so no

So my so my question was and the reason I was attracted this question is curls You know, what's the difference between curls with the easy curl bar or a straight bar? Yeah Maybe substitute this very very slight decision very slight difference with the easy curl bar and a straight bar And really it's it's an issue of comfort this very, very slight difference with the easy curve bar and a straight bar. And really it's an issue of comfort. And I prefer easy curve bars again, because most people do it. And a lot of that actually is the risk mobility.

Like a lot of people lack the ability to completely supinate really comfortably like that. And the straight bar is really good pressure. Yeah, and the straight bar forces you to do that, because how often do you completely supinate your hands? And we should be able to do that. So to me, if you choose the easy crowbar because it's easier all the time and straight bar bothers you,

okay, for the time being, yes, to the easy crowbar, but that's also a flag to you that you probably should do some risk mobility work. So it might not be a risk mobility. There's also some morphology. So when it comes to supinating, when you look at the bicep attachment, where it attaches on the, I don't know which bone of the forearm this is, the old one.

I don't know, but it, where it attaches is in a dictate how much you can supinate and how much you can. I would never ever tell a client that said that to me, like, okay, then let's just skip that and let's not work on your risk mobility whatsoever. The morphology argument is like the people that try to make the morphology argument on

the way they squat with their stance. There's always room to improve mobility there. And if client has an issue, cannot grab a straight bar and curl on it, the likelihood that it's their morphology that's keeping them from that. And even if it is their morphology, the likelihood that we can't make improvements by working on your risk mobility to me is. So that's so supination would be, I don't know if you call that risk mobility because the risk isn't bending, it's the forum that's twisting.

But this one actually is quite common, which is why an easy curve bar is so popular. There are big differences in the attachment of the bicep, one of the heads of the bicep. I know I looked into this, not for me for clients, and where it attaches, again, I can't remember which bone I'm referring to, but where it attaches will determine whether or not a full supination or partial supination is a bit better. Well, I'm not necessarily saying that there's not a situation just like there's not in this squatting argument,

I mean, there are morphologies that make a difference where both of us can't squat. Well, as a fundamental movement though. I've experienced, yeah what you're doing with that. There are more apologies that make a difference. Well, it's quite a fun to remember movement though. I've experienced, yeah, you're right. I've experienced personally myself, the ability to comfortably do a straight bar call and then be very uncomfortable in doing it. And what I know is when I'm not putting the work in

mobility wise, I struggle with doing the straight bar and it's a little rough for me to do it. When I'm putting the work in I it's comfortable from it's fine. So I've I've had both been on both sides of the this fence And so if I had a client that was that I would definitely be addressed. Yeah Next question is from Kate turn it How can I keep my body from swinging when doing hanging leg raises due to core stability issues? Or is there an alternative movement to replace these if you can't prevent your body from swinging when doing hanging leg raises due to core stability issues, or is there an alternative movement to replace these?

If you can't prevent your body from swinging a lot when doing leg raises, then move to a different exercise. Reversed. Yeah, I would go to reverse crunches. Reverse crunches on a flat bench would be the biggest progression, and then moving up a decline bench would be how you progress. And eventually, you can move to hanging leg raises. Not everybody's gonna be able to do them

to really hard, like properly, but a really good hanging leg raise looks very controlled. It's not the swinging back and forth that you see people doing. It's definitely not the CrossFit, whatever they do. I don't know what they call it, but when you're doing a real hanging leg raise to work the abs, you come down

and it's very controlled, minimal swinging. And then when you come doing a real hanging leg raise to work the abs, you come down and it's very controlled, minimal swinging. And then when you come up, you get this pelvic tilt, and that's where the abs were. I've never been a fan of training these with clients. I think you can get such a good, reverse course. Oh, I can't. I think I had like two clients every day this morning. Yeah, I mean, if you're hell of good at this, like, okay, then I'm not going to tell a

client to stop. But most clients, you put them on a reverse incline and holding on and roll up. You're a general. Yeah, the only time I even really cared about these and I was really working on like a lot of like levels up to get towards these like front levers and back lever, things like you're trying to do for like, gymnastics moves and like sort of like, the prerequisites for that is like, so if I'm hanging like you're trying to do for like gymnastics moves and like sort of like the prerequisites

for that is like, so if I'm hanging and I'm trying to you know, maintain that kind of control and stability while also then like, getting across type of things. Yeah, like you're working your way up levels of like calisthenic, you know, intensified movements, it makes sense, but like, I think people just see people doing it in the gym. And they're like, that's really hard.

And then they try and emulate it. And they're not even getting good activity in their core. They're getting all hit flex or anything else. Even when I'm at the peak strength of my abs, you won't see me do this. Really? Oh, I do a lot of time. No, when I'm at peak strength,

I can still make an incline reverse curl unbelievably. Yeah, but the reason. Because you can raise it up like, what's that called, is it dragonfly? You call that where you're a dragonfly? That's not a, yeah, but that's a whole other ball. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that's how you could progress a reverse laying crunch on an incline.

And I would do that before I would go over to leg races. Well, for building muscle, a really good controlled hanging leg raise, there's very few ab exercises that'll give you that much resistance. And if you, I mean, you can, obviously you should regress until you can get to the point where you can do one or two that are good. And that's okay.

It's totally fine to hang and do one or two, very controlled, yes. And they build the abs, they do build, nothing built my abs more than that. Yeah, and I think too, I mean, it's definitely the control. It's the stability part of it. So to do like a hollow body position, like just to be able to maintain that all the way from your fingertips, your toes, and have that kind of stability control. Like that's where now it's like, okay, maybe not going to apply this towards like a hanging bar situation. Yeah. Next question is from Sukraj, 93. Should you start a map program over if you've had to take a week off due to illness travel, et cetera, or pick up where you left off?

Oh, just a week. Yeah, it depends. I mean, if you're sick, I would probably do like a week of easy working out. It depends how you feel. If it's like vacation, I would go right back to it. I mean, listen, you have you, we've's like vacation, I would go right back to work. I mean, listen, you have, we've already talked about the study already that referred to the group that every three weeks they took us all week off. And so a week interruption on a program is nobody deal. Nobody deal at all. In fact, maybe good for you. Your point is good is a good point is if you're really sick, then with that week back might look like like I might repeat the last week that I was on and do it really lighten easy.

The week coming back from being sick and then when I get to week two, I'm now back where I left off, but just start a whole program over one week only. Not that long of a timeframe. Give me a really long time frame, but I'd have a totally different protocol. I might even suggest NAS 15. It's a great momentum builder to get you back on your own. A lot of people, especially if they take a week off, and they weren't sick, so they went on vacation. They actually come back stronger. A lot of fitness fanatics find themselves coming back stronger,

in which case, you jump back where you left off, you will get sore. The soreness definitely becomes more pronounced, but you'll find that you're actually stronger. The only time I would take an easier week to get back into it is if you took a week off due to injury or illness, but if it's just a week off for travel vacation or because you just missed out.

You'll bounce right back. Then yeah, I would jump right in. Look, if you like, mind pump, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out our guides. We have fitness guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal. You can also find all of us on social media. So Justin is on Instagram, Mind Pump Justin. Adam is on Instagram, Mind Pump Adam. You can find me on Twitter at Mind Pump Sal.

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