Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2029: How to Train to Maximize Your Testosterone Levels, Ways to Develop a Vice-Like Grip, What to Do if You Feel Exhausted Even After a Short Workout & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: March 11, 2023

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Most of us give ourselves jet lag every single Monday. How's this happened? Well, we go to bed at the same time, Monday through Thursday, then we decide to go to bed three hours later on Friday, thinking we're going to make up for a Saturday, do the same thing on Saturday, Sunday night comes, then we try to wake up Monday at our normal time and we can't figure out why we're exhausted. It's because you gave yourself jet lag. How do you solve that? Go to bed and wake up at the same time every single day and watch your health improve.

Are you seeing that I was on an airplane? I didn't even know it. Yeah, jet lag without the travel. Whoa! That sucks, right? Do you think that has to do with the, you know, cultural phenomenon of, you know, I hate Mondays or why Mondays or so? Yes, it's terrible.

It is. Partially because they are physically for all of us. Like obviously there's a percentage of that of people that hate their jobs, right? I don't know what the statistics are, maybe Doug could look that up for it. The statistics are around how many people actually like their job, but I imagine there's a small

percentage that already, yeah. And I would imagine they go the hardest on the weekend, right? Yeah. The ones that are most miserable in their day to day job throughout the week, they just live for that weekend moment where they can just like kind of let their hair down go crazy. Well look, think about this way, when there's a when they do the time change, right, when they do what daylight savings time for, I think most states do that, but I think they're changing it soon. Everybody complains when the time change makes you wake up an hour earlier.

We notice an hour earlier, well most people on average will go to bed two or three hours later on Friday night and Saturday night. So it's like traveling somewhere where there's a three hour difference, then you come back and you gotta go to work the next day. You literally are giving yourself jet lag. Finally a government policy. I agree.

That is much higher than I would have guessed. Would you guys have guessed that? What? 65% of people say they like their job. Yeah. Oh. When they say like, they tolerate it, I think. Yeah.

Actually, 20% are passionate about it. You know what those are the people I'm more interested in. Maybe because they're all remote, no. No word done. It is. Yeah, I mean, that's it. So, I mean, so 20% that makes sense. You know what I'm gonna say about that though,

is that there was this, actually I watched a whole video on this, and there was this cultural shift where work used to be a place where you went so you could earn a living so that you could do the things that were meaningful like be with your family, raise your kids, belong, you know, as part of your community. And then there was this message that was told to us that your work is supposed to be your meaning. It's supposed to be your purpose.

And people kind of forgot the other stuff. And so I think there's that perception as well. It's like, well, I'm supposed to love work so much that that's all I wanna do when the reality is very few people like that. Like most people you go to work and you like it, you don't hate it, you don't think you should work in a place you hate, but most people are going to go to work and have this like deep. Wasn't that one?

Not a big movement with, I guess, generalization. I can't speak right now. Generational. Generational. Generational. Yes, you got it. Why is that so hard to say? Millennials being that they want to change the world.

They want to do something that has so much purpose attached as they'll pass up on a lot of these jobs that are just jobs to make money to get you to stepping stones, to get to the next level. But yeah, that seems to be like a trend. Now back to your fitness tip, complete transparency. I'm guilty of jet lagging myself on Mondays

for a very long time. You know one of the things that helped me get out of that? I've shared this tip before about winning the weekends. Like that's, it was a major shift for me to like, and it was like a psychological game that I would play. And I've talked about this around exercise and nutrition on how I used to like give myself the flexibility and freedom to eat kind of the way I wanted to

or miss days of working out if it was Monday through Friday, but I needed to win Saturday and Sunday. And the idea of like, you know, holding myself accountable for two days out of the week is not hard, I don't think at all. And so instead of saying that I can't do this, I can't do that. It's like, okay, I'm gonna win Saturday and Sunday.

And then what I found was it set the tone for the week. Well, I've talked about that around nutrition and exercise, but one of the things that was a side effect was how much it improved the sleep side. Because if I got up and started my day right with my nutrition, I made sure I exercise that day. I also tend to stick with my routine of like going to bed at a normal hour. And then on Mondays, I would come in here way more

refreshed versus if I was just like, you know, party and hard on the weekends going ham, and then, you know, and staying up late on Sunday. And then Monday comes around and I'm just like, yeah, there's this belief that you can make up for loss sleep by sleeping in and that's true to a small extent, but it's not fully true So you actually screw yourself over and I do get the the occasional value of staying up late You're hanging out with your partner you're going out with friends. You haven't meant a while or whatever But a lot of times if people honest with themselves, okay, it's not that a lot of the time. It's literally just Watching TV late. Yeah, or I'm just gonna sleep in tomorrow because I don't have to get up. So therefore,

I'm not going to go to bed. So it's not really worth it. It's not really worth the consistent jet lag that we're giving ourselves. When you look at its effects on our health, on our performance, on our productivity. So it's literally as easy as just go to bed and wake up at the same time every single day for the most part. And then notice a big difference. It really makes a huge difference. Even if it's still, you think you're still getting eight hours, the studies will show that if you go off your, if you veer too far off your circadian rhythm, your natural rhythm, let's say you always go to bed at 9 p.m. and then all of a sudden it's midnight, even if you try to make up for it the next day, it doesn't really make that big of a, it makes a little bit of a difference but not much.

Yeah, we had the opportunity to hang out with Kelly Starrette and his wife today. It had a great conversation. That interview will probably drop later on, but a big meet of that conversation was around, you know, sleep and equality. And, you know, at one point, I asked them some of the hacks and things that they use. And what it was neat to see one of the most common things, I mean, there was several things that we all agreed And what it was neat to see, one of the most common things, I mean, there was several things that we all agreed on talked about, but they were huge fans of the Sleep Me,

Uler system, the doc pro and stuff like that. And I was like, oh my God, I swear that like completely changed the quality of sleep. Cause that matters too, right? Like it's one thing to get in bed and then get that, you know, eight hours of sleep. But then also how good of sleep are you getting in those? How much sleep are you getting?

Right. And I quality have. And I feel like I've never got as deep asleep as I do now that I've used that. And it's not a cheap investment. But I'll say it's been one of the best investments that I've personally ever made to help contribute to me having better. Well, in my opinion, it's an easy investment because it's been one of the best investments that I've personally ever made to help contribute to me having better. Well, in my opinion, it's an easy investment because it's simple. You get it, you put it on your bed, you're done.

And regardless of how much sleep you get or what time you go to bed or any of that stuff, whatever you normally do will get better. So it's like an easy thing to do, whereas some things require lots of behavioral changes and just to your lifestyle. That's just here, put it on your bed, do what you're normally doing. You're going to sleep better because the temperature is going to be optimized. And by the way, this is backed up by data. It's very clear that if you sleep at an optimal temperature for your body,

that you do get more of that deep sleep, you get more of that rejuvenating sleep. So five hours feels more like six and a half hours because it's more of that recuperjuvenating sleep. So five hours feels more like six and a half hours because it's more of that recuperative type sleep. What are their hacks or things have you guys put in place to optimize your sleep routine? Not eating two hours before bed is a big one. And darkness is another one.

Big time, yeah. That was one, I know Katrina's like that too. Religious about like making sure every single light, like I do that, I do like a check and I'm going around the room and make sure like every little outlet or anything that has like a blinking, like little tiny red light or like the TV, like a cover it, tape it.

I've just started doing that because it's just, inevitably like I'll put it, I used to sleep with a pillow on my head and my face and Courtney make fun of me and then I did like the mask and you know, I'll put it, I used to sleep with a pillow on my face and Courtney make fun of me, and then I did the mask, and I had my princess mask, and then I had all of that. And I'm just like, this is too much stuff. This is ridiculous. I gotta calm down a little bit, so I just like,

want to at least manage the environment, so it's just dark. I want my mask. I'm, oh you do? I'm trying to get Katrina to where, I bought her this super super fancy like fucking top of the line, protect her eyelash fucking thing that like yeah, yeah, it's like the best I'm asking you to find on Amazon.

I ordered for her and because her excuse, well, so her excuse of why she would wear is because she has fake eyelashes and she's like, you're gonna smash my eyelashes. No way. This is expensive. I'm gonna do that. So I like go. Of course, I was so. that. So that was her debate. So I like, go ahead, of course, I was so- So somebody innovated, this is a need here.

Of course, I knew that, when she said that, I'm like, okay, she's not the first girl to have fake eyelashes. I just want an eye mask, right? So of course they make them, and they've got these really nice ones. And so she's like, sometimes she'll use it, sometimes she won't, I try and get her to use it more, because she's like you, where the slightest bit of light

is in there. I don't mind moon light. Moonlight doesn't bother me. Street lights, if there's like a street light or something without shooting through, but the natural kind of moon light to me, I have no problem falling asleep to that. But obviously a bright light in my room

or. The blinking lights on the electronics are the worst. Oh yeah. They're the worst, dude. I use something, sleep mask I use. I don't even use a special one. I just grabbed Jessica's. You don't have to take that.

It's like this light blue, like fluffy, whatever it is put in on really. I swear. I'm going to sleep. I don't care who cares, put it on, like whatever. Yeah. I think about it, I'm like, man, if it's juicy, if I ever had to like counter like a burglar or something,

you know, you might be like, first laugh is ass off. Oh, it's going on over here. Get the ones like, obviously the ones like, I've got eyes all wide open on them, so it looks like you have eyes on them. That's it. You know, I'd be have to invest in one.

I think about it. I should probably buy one that's like better. I gotta get like a metal one or something. Like, you know, you know, I think one of the biggest, I think one of the biggest things that's helped Katrina and I too, and this takes a team effort

because we're not super consistent but I always notice a big difference. So when we just agree to heading up to the bedroom at a very reasonable time and not bringing the electronics to the bed. So we'll go like, hey, let's get up to the bed at eight o'clock. Eight o'clock is really early for me. For someone who falls asleep at only 10, 30, 11

to go up to the bedroom at eight is really, but when's it happening is, you know, we go in there, and if we don't do that, we talk for about 15, 20. You naturally get sleepy. Yeah, and then we get, you know, and they calm down, and then for you know, we're asleep by like 9.30, and I get the most amazing sleep if I can discipline myself to do that.

Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. Hey, did you guys watch Chris Rocks New Special on Netflix? It was wack, dude. Yeah, yeah. I made a comment. I was hoping it was gonna be like, his old stuff, you know, Netflix. It was wack, dude. So I told him. I made a comment. It was gonna be like his old stuff, you know? Like it was bigger and blacker.

It was like one of his main specials. I love that. It was so hilarious. It's just, I don't know, man. It just fell flat. He hasn't innovated as the thing. I think comedy's kind of advanced. And you know, like good comedians,

the ones that are great right now, they take you on a ride. You don't know where you can go. Yeah, and he didn't do that very well. I was really disappointed because. Yeah, but that's never been, like you brought that point up, and I don't disagree, but that's never been his humor. Like he's not a Dave Chappelle, a Bill, Bill Burr, like, that's what I mean, though, who has his charisma and he's pointing out really obvious things. Yes, but he hasn't like, like, advanced, you know what I mean? He hasn't, but I mean though, who has his charisma and he's pointing out really obvious things. Yes, but he hasn't like advanced. You know what I mean? He hasn't. Yeah, but I mean, that's not necessarily advanced. You're pointing out stylistically something different. There's comedians that have this humor of irony, right? So I would say he's more like

ironic. Like this is funny, ironic things that he comments on or stereotypes, like he does stuff like that really well. You have your your billbers and your, you know, Dave Chappelle's that are always on current climate of society and that are areas where maybe we're divided and we fight and we argue and they take you to this beautiful. They take you to a ride. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about the code.

You're not saying that. Yeah, Louis CK, like the most horrible thing and make it funny. Yeah, or you have like Nate Bargazze who is clean. He's super clean, but he's absolutely hilarious. The wind is yeah. In brink. So I have a theory, Justin, I'd love to hear your opinion on this of how comedians go.

Cause he's like a comedy. He's just, he's a comedy guru. Just a superstar. Yeah, so there's like this, I noticed this pattern when comedians do this particular thing that tend to suck then at standup. And it's when they go from standup to voicing children's characters on animations and then after they start.

Like Eddie Murphy was an incredible standup. So they're doing kids shit. Now he's not funny. He's not funny anymore. Chris Rock, hilarious, did Madagascar and a bunch of other stuff. This sort of lose their age and they lose their

relatability. I think it's more of like, it's a sort of success trap, right? Like you're getting a little bit too successful, you kind of lose a touch with like kind of like the audience base that you've built, like going into it. So one example of that was Kevin Hart, one of his like special, like I love Kevin Hart, when his like special, I love Kevin Hart,

I think it's hilarious. But one of his recent specials he was talking just about like the size of his house and how far long it took for him to get to the front of the house and like all these statues and obstacles and things he had to get through to get to his house and trying to like portray it like it's this big struggle and it's like dude, like where are we talking about here? You know, it just wasn't like, it like it's this big struggle and it's like, dude, like

what are we talking about here? You know, it just wasn't like, I think it's just you kind of lose sense of reality when like your reality is is there. I think what you're talking about, even though you didn't ask my opinion. I think what you're talking about is the Bill Cosby Eddie Murphy, what's his face from Full House? That effect, which is, they go, no, no, no, no, no. They, they get, they, you Bob Sagitt, Bob Sagitt when he went to Funny As Home videos, what happens is they have this standup when they're up and coming and they're completely unhinged.

They're just off the rails, say everything that's on their mind, they touch all the third rails, they have edge to them, and then they get big and they get picked up by either a national show like Funny As Home videos or they do things like Nutty Professor and they do family, funny stuff or they do cartoon voices like Bill Cosby. But sag is a bad example because that was what it did. No, I know he did his comics. Bro, you hear him after all this.

Oh my god, well. He'd joke about the whole thing. I don't think he was ever as good though. He was still better earlier days than he was later on. I think, you know what ruined it was, if you grew up watching Full House, and then you watched this guy, well, you actually could comedy.

And you're like, oh, yeah. And I think that's what happens. I think your audience broadens, and now you, and then at one point, some of these guys have a bigger PG, PG, 13 audience than they have an R audience. And so they have this weird dichotomy. They're stuck in where it's like, like Eddie Murphy,

for example, when he did Ron Delirius, that was on the up, like that was him upcoming. Like he wasn't huge yet, it was him becoming huge. Then he goes out and he does the Nutty Professor and all those with the, all the other like, doctor, do little or whatever. All these kind of like PG type, family stuff. And he got even bigger.

So how much bigger did he get? Did he double or triple his audience? And is the new audience, are they PG, PG 13? And then now you gotta go back and you gotta do stand-up. I don't know, I think comedy evolves. Like if you watch top comedians from the 50, 60, 70s, 80s, 90s, you keep going through the decades, you see the evolution of comedy and watching old comics

can sometimes be like, oh, I thought you think that was really funny. Like watch old Eddie Murphy now. It's not as funny as it was when you watched it back then. That's so pretty. Delirious and Ross, still a fucking. Watch it now. I watch it recently and I'm like, it's not as funny as it was when you washed it back up. It's still pretty hilarious and raw, still fucking. Watch it now, I washed it recently and I'm like, ooh, it's not as funny as it was when I was fucking.

Well, I think you're into some maybe different stuff right now, I mean, those, half of what makes things like that comical is their, their childhood. It's relevant, it's relevant. Yeah, it's relevant. He's making fun of my Tyson in there. He's to making fun of Rocky.

Like, I mean, come on, those are old jokes now. So it's like, of course it's not as funny too. But it's still, the core of it on, those are old, those are all old jokes now. So it's like, of course, it's not as funny too. But it's still the core of it in my opinion is still, George Carlin's still fucking amazing. If you look back at some of his old stuff, like, so that he was pathetic though. I mean, back to Chris Rock, I think, like, what I was like still sticking around for

and had to actually like fast forward to the end is I wanted to hear his take on Will Smith slap. Like, you know, like, is he gonna just eviscerate him? You know, like, like, what did he set up for this? And it just, cause it was like, one of the jokes that he was trying to lead up towards, like, he bifft. Like, he put the wrong movie reference and he gave away the punch line.

I was like, oh, no. And I guess that's gotta be like, part of the struggle of doing a live performance and not, cause normally they'll do like three different shows and they'll kind of piece it together Did you see that was the first live Netflix stream? Yeah, yeah, that was what it was Wasn't like they recorded a bunch. No, it was just like No, that was a they live they live stream that that Netflix That was out you know it'd be interesting Maybe you can look up Doug to see like the statistics

if that it did well for Netflix. And like what the strategy was. I bet you did because everybody wanted to hear what you had to say. Yeah, I mean 100% that was the move, right? I mean, even him strategically putting at the end of his show, like half the people sat around just so they could hear that part.

That's where you want to get to. Of course. I saw Patrick Beddavid did a posted on value payment page his saying, oh, Chris Rock attacks woke culture. And I was like, Diddy, I didn't feel like a little bit. Oh my God. He's like, mainly like a corporation. He nudged it. He did hammer it. No. No. He used time out like, you know, a hundred dollar yoga pants and, uh, at Lillie lemon. And he's like, you go to Lillie lemon. It says, we don't support racism,

sexism. It's not. He's like, I don't know about you, but I'd rather have some $20 pair of racist pants than $100 pair, not racist pants. Yeah. He's like, you know, you're discriminating against poor people. That was one bit that was kind of funny. Yeah, that was pretty good. He bit off of what's his name, Shultz?

Is that his last name? He did his portion bit. Was totally, he bit off of a bit 100%. That has to be probably one of the, well, a lot of people were, you know, that's kind of like in the ethos. Like everybody's gonna have a job. But yeah, you know, like I'm pro choice,

but you're killing babies. Like that was Schultz said that. He delivered it like that too. He did almost the same. Wow. I mean, you wouldn't, that has to be like one of the biggest pet peeves of your comedian is like they sell one

else to fucking rip your joke. Do you know who did that a lot? They got a part, Carlos Mancilla. So remember that? Rogan, call him out. Yeah. I think Rogan has done that before. Where he's called out people that have done that.

But isn't that kind of like a common practice sometimes on some people that, oh, you know, who else was known for doing that was, uh, what's his face? Did the white Williams? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I know you're talking about you. You did a bunch of movies too. Yes. White dude. Yes. He just came back. Yes. What is his name right now? Come on, help me. He's got a goofy. Bro, he got, he was huge.

He was a, like, someone out of Rina. He exploded and then disappeared. And he, and he, and he sued his, he sued his, he's broke. He didn't cook. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Jesus. You're gonna get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I heard Dane Cook used to do that. Like, okay, so here's, here's the thing that's tough, okay? As you're, you're comedian, you're at every, at every, you're coming up, you're at every small bar or fucking 10 people in the audience, you hear all these other people coming up and you hear a good joke, but you see somebody that doesn't deliver it as well. Not really selling it.

Yeah, it's selling it really well. I mean, is it a bad thing to not go, oh man, I could do that so much better, and then to blend it in. And then are you a ripoff artist because you did that? Because if somebody else is joke or you did it better than they did. go, oh man, I could do that so much better, and then to blend it in. And then are you a ripoff artist? Because you did that? Because if somebody else is joke,

or you did it better than they did. It's not just common practice in comedy. It's in a music. It's in like, I mean, this is just something that's just like people have always done that, right? Like it, I don't know. I guess it's an integrity thing for the individual, but like sometimes you'd never know, right?

Especially if that person's not gonna be as famous, you know, eventually a lot of times you'd never know that it was there. So, okay, here's challenge, challenge, you guys a little bit then, okay? And you see your own self-awareness here, okay? How different is what we do than that? We take all this information and knowledge

that we've learned over, you know, two decades of reading and learning, and that means some ideas are original, like some things that we've learned over two decades of reading and learning. I mean, some ideas are original, like some things that we came to the conclusion through our own practices, but at many times you hear somebody say something, you know, you hear a really nerdy guy say some shit and you go, he's not communicating that right, I can communicate that better. No, I think that's different.

If someone else told a story and then I borrowed the story, that's the, that's if it was your own, that would be the same thing. Yeah, like, oh, here's what happened to me. It's the exact same story someone else had. Okay, that's it. But if you're conveying information, and I'm conveying the same information that you read, I just do a better job of communicating it. Well, that's, that's your job as a trainer, as a coach. Your job is not to research and figure it out. That's the reason. So I guess that's, so the where is the, where is the line? Right? So is not to research and figure it out. That's the reason. So I guess that's, so the where is the line, right? So is the line in stealing another comedian's joke and are you literally verbatim?

Or do you take the general concept? I think the joke and then you make it your own. I think that's the move, right? Is there something there in that thread? And like, can I come to that same kind of thought, but like present it a little bit differently? And it's original, you know, at that point. I mean, yes, it's like you're inspired,

and really that's about being inspired, for the most part, and again, I don't know, I guess I just, I compare it to music, because it's like, you'll hear songs, and it'll just like sort of imprint itself in your head, and you'll realize it's still there, and it'll come out, and it's like, is that really an original thought?

I don't think so. I don't think a lot of thoughts are original. Yeah, and there's innovation, right? Like grunge music was borrowed off of, what, like, a metal and punk. And metal, but they blended it in a way that it was innovative. Speaking of innovation, by the way, have you guys seen this new clothing

that is being designed to fort? Yes. Facial recognition technology. Have guys seen this new clothing that is being designed to flort? Yes. Facial recognition technology. Have you seen this? No. They are designing like sweaters. Like hoodie sweaters and these like face masks. You could see through, but if a camera zooms in on you,

it scrambles and messes up. So I didn't see the face mask one, which I think is stupid, because that's like, I mean mean who wants to wear a fucking mask Would you know that's why have you seen that there's like Chinese citizens in America? I've heard where masks and they'll interview him and say why are you wearing a mask and I say because we don't want our faces Get recognized now I just in their family gets in trouble Is that does that the origin maybe Andrew you know this because I got these two knuckleheads won't know this Wow, he's a computer from.

Well, I think he's. Well, okay. So I'll ask you. Let's see. If you guys say, do you think that's the origin of why Kanye West started wearing the ski mask that is covers everything? Like, I thought that was such a weird trend. And that's become a trend now, by the way.

Like, NBA basketball players are now doing that. Like, you've got eight. Well, does it hold up in court? Right. Like, if you can't really, like, specifically pinpoint that's him, even though it's his voice, like, he's Kanye West dude. He's on a show. Here's Kanye West. Were you going to wear a mask?

No, no, no, no. I mean, he wears that out in public all the time. So what I'm asking, if you guys know, and maybe Andrew can be searching this right now, is the origin of why he started to do that for, because he got travels all over the country all the time, goes in China, dust, what that is. Well, maybe he just doesn't want to get recognized by paparazzi. Same, same difference.

Yeah, same difference though, right? Thanos celebrities have been doing that for a long time, right? Where they wear disguises and, you know, you know, he comes to the side. You're the only celebrity that does it. He could have given you some way. Hey, that guy on a ski mask, so that must be funny. You're the only dude with a ski mask

getting out of a fucking lambo. I'm looking at this. I wonder who that is. I'm looking at this. I wonder who that is. I'm looking at this, this, this site and there's these. Not at Andrew. Yeah, so he's always been partnered with Balenciaga on the mask. And he says in 2012, we originally started wearing it. So people wouldn't recognize him.

Oh, so that's what it was. So it's a Balenciaga. Is that one that made that? Oh, I don't know that. Isn't that the place? Yeah, that is a weird kid. Yeah, but he broke off from them, you know that right? Yeah, that's all.

So I'm looking at this right now, and they do have these very interesting clear looking masks that makes you unrecognizable by facial recognition. Yeah, but that's stupid, I think. It's a literally, but the garments, like the sweaters that just have like designed. That's cool too. That's cool to me.

Yeah. Cause that like it scrambles the face recognition recognition. Recognition. I got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got you got that this is an example of market response to things that people don't like. So a lot of people are like, hey, I don't want facial recognition technology to pick me up when I'm walking down the street or whatever, I don't want to, you know, I want to remain somewhat anonymous for whatever reason. So the market comes up with solutions like this.

Is this going to work for 15-minute cities? Uh, I don't know. I can't explain the 15-minute cities that they're trying to do. So if I, if I read it correctly, it's I need to read more. But yeah. So isn't it like they're, they're trying to basically put some sort of attacks on how far you travel and to what time you can travel.

It's just, it's like a control feature of like, and it, I think they wrap it under the guys of time change. Yeah. Like, like, like less carbon footprint when you have like certain people traveling and it's like you sort of acknowledge that there's there's windows of So we can put less footprint out. I have no idea how they're packaging and marketing this, but to me it just all sounds like control. Did you know about this stuff?

I've heard about it. I don't know the details. If they can find a way to control people and for people to welcome the control under the guise of, it makes us safer, they will. This has always been this way. So if they can sell you that this saves us, this makes us safer, this is good for us,

we just need to go through your email, we just need to read your texts, which they do now, right? We just need to listen through your email. We just need to read your texts, which they do now, right? We just need to listen to your phone calls. We just need to look at your face and recognize people walking on the street. We just need to limit how far you could travel, what kind of car you could drive. If you use a gas stove, like what they're doing is slowly controlling people to the point where they have full control.

And meanwhile, people are just welcoming it. Are you guys noticing this? Okay, this happened last night. Katrina and I are talking about this, I went on for my birthday this year, November, the Las Vegas, for the first time ever, I know if you guys know this, like F1 racing, it's racing the streets of Las Vegas.

Oh wow. Oh, they're doing that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, in Las Vegas, that's happening. So I'm like planning this trip with my friends. And I'm talking, so F1, F1, F1, I'm talking in our room. Are we in the friends? In my teeth, my teeth.

I feel like I can't remember being in Texas. I can't remember. Did A, the truth is, it might be you guys, because my other friends are gonna be able to afford it. We're in the house. Yeah, I'm planning it with them, but it's like, they're in the house. I'm not gonna be able to. I'm not gonna be able to bring it. We're in the house. Yeah. I'm planning it with them, but it's like, they're in the office. We're in the house.

I'm not gonna be able to. I'm not gonna be able to bring it. Bro, it's crazy expensive. It's like crazy. You guys can come, but you got to pay for my other friends. Yeah, that's the deal. You guys can pit people. I'm like, come, buy a new car or should I go see this thing?

You know, so it's like how, how, how expensive? Yeah, do it's like over the top. Especially if you want to actually sit in like good seats and the hotel room, of course, that night, whatever that. But anyways, we're saying F1 like crazy and all of a sudden on my TV populates like net flits, it's recommended me the F1. I'm talking to Katrina about something else and before I can Google search it, now I know Google has the ability of whatever, you know, the thing where it finishes your sentence,

where, you know, and I know how that works. It works like the five most populated things when you put a word in, but I'm not even done with the first word, and it gives me my Google search, like sometimes, like what the fuck? They're listening. Like I open it, and it's like recommended. I'm like, whoa, let's wait too good. It is proven that they're listening,

and that what they've admitted to is they're listening for keywords and phrases, so they could better tailor things like advertising and content. So people think, well, what's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. Why would I have just the Supreme Court ruling that basically absolved any further investigation into intelligence agencies active listening on the public?

Oh, yeah. They said that if the information got out, it would damage national security too much. This is what happens. You get so far down the rabbit hole, you get so bad that then releasing the information becomes more dangerous. That's what we're at right now. That's where we're at.

So, no, so here's a problem. Private companies are definitely listening. My phone's, it happened today. We interviewed Kelly Starrett on the show. I have never once in my entire life seen an ad with Kelly Starrett on on my phone on Facebook ever We're talking to him. I said his name pull up Facebook afterwards boom. He pops up. Okay. It's not a coincidence It's 100% they're listening here's the problem with it the problem is government has back to our access to all this stuff

so By proxy they're using private companies to follow people around watch what they're doing here with their saying and that's dangerous Press. Everybody dangerous. I still think minority report was the most accurate like sci-fi movie. Remember when he was walking down the street And all the ads all these ads would pop at him and like the holograms like a guarantee were headed that I mean I think we already are I mean look how close like to your point like your phone if your phone Which is in your pocket all time? It not going to be that far fetched for advertising to start to change as you go by it. So invasive, dude. Well, you just wait till they connect.

Because who was it that was trying to buy? What was the watch? What's the Fitbit? Is that the watch that you wear or the measures you wear? Yeah. Who was trying to buy them and they tried to put a stop on it? Was it Google? Oh, yeah, okay, who wants to try to buy them and they try to put a stop on it? Was it Google? Oh, yeah.

Okay, so you just wait till a tech company that collects data, partners with another tech company that measures things like heart rate, your body temperature, pupil dilation, like all these metrics that will allow you to objectively measure if someone's excited, if they're scared, if they're happy, if they're happy, if they're whatever, and then you pair that with a company that tries to influence you. Apple watches are in there. Just why, bro, that's why I have Apple stock, bro.

That's why Apple. Dude, Apple is over. That's why I buy Apple stock. That's why I buy Apple stock. It's one of the most powerful videos Apple now. They've incorporated that in the latest watch, and they said it's like really producing like pretty accurate results I was like mind blown because it's they don't even need like that needle anymore Yeah, so think about like how it'll be able to target you with News articles and blogs and ads. Yeah, this is exciting. This is not exciting. This is scary And this is scary. I'm keep going boob boob-bo, you're a little deficient in these nutrients,

you might wanna stop at this store real quick if you have some food and dude, whatever it is, like it's just gonna read you and then present you with me. Oh, man. I mean, obviously it's easy to become very alarmist about this, right? And think of like how bad this could be in lead to, but at the end of the day,

the real motivation I see is not government control I see not and I'm not saying that the government won't find a way to use it and manipulate it as they do everything else but the real motivation behind all this is to make more money. I mean it will separate the two. Yeah. What's the difference? I will you can't yeah yeah I mean you can't but we've never been able to so I mean it's just I'm just gonna sift through it all that's I mean, just try to figure my way through. Just when I came up with a good, a good strategy. I don't know if you hear it. No, I did not, you know, so we're like, hey, let's, let's, we got to get successful enough. Let's make mine pump

successful in our, in being conversation. Yeah. Hey, you're not invited. You'll be interested in this, Andrew. I'm going to start our to Andrew for now. Hey, Andrew, you'll be interested in your life. You did the F1 and Vegas, I'm already dead. You might not see. That's why I invited Andrew to get you for a look. Yeah, so listen to our idea. All right, all right, you're invited. All right, let's hear it.

So here, we were talking about this. We're like, let's do this. Get successful enough. We're gonna buy a big piece of land. Okay. And we're gonna be like the Amish except, not quite like the Amish. Here's the caveat.

Well, because they're way too, like, what do they stop at? What decade of technology? I don't know, like,'s the caveat. Well, because they're way too, like, what do they stop at? What decade of technology? I don't know, like, say 1800s. Yeah, whatever. Like, we want to start to get a farm and we're going to go up to technology in 1882. Yeah, it's 1882.

1885. 1885. All the tech up to the mid-80s. Yes. That's what we'll stop. We'll have to let the ARGES. Yeah, dude. Okay, well, think about that.

Glory is, we won't have DVDs. You should be one step at 82. Yeah, maybe 90. That's, we got stop Yeah, dude, okay, well think about it. We won't have DVDs. You she wants about 82 maybe 90 That's we got to have a limit somewhere. I know we got to agree here because let what things what things happen between 82 and 90 that you're We don't need any boy bands. No internet. That bulls internet. Internet's not there yet. Okay, Duran Duran Internet's up. We so we get internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right before the But like old school like dial up, you know, it sucks. Oh, it's really a name. That's 90 something. We gotta go 90's in.

Oh, you want that kind of internet? Yeah. Woo. Woo. Where you at? Yeah, you get like, tell your mom to get off the phone. You got the internet? You can print one thing off, takes about an hour.

Yeah. That guy I showed you guys yesterday, Harry, Harry something, I'll look it up. On that channel that you said you were familiar with, I never even heard of it, Omegal. Oh, Omegal. Omegal. You don't know what that is? I didn't know, so yeah, explain that to me. So I know about it through my kids.

So apparently it's a site, it's not like such old videos. It's a site, it's like such old videos. It's a site you go on and it randomly video chats with somebody. Am I right? Andrews at the deal? Oh my God. Have you guys name it Harry Mack?

Oh, we're not. Yeah, I was talking about, by the way, this isn't my shout out today, but that Harry Mack do, this is the first time I've ever seen him. So I know I'm gonna sound like probably an old funny dirty for all the young kids that already fall this guy, but dude is wicked talented, like so talented.

And I didn't know what that, so have you actually done Omega? Omega? Omega? I never actually used it. I remember when I grew up. You were a worthless young guy for us. Let me show you guys.

Let me say why I didn't use it. Okay, this is your reference guy. I know for a lot of people that a lot of people on there were just masturbating. Yeah. You would go on there and people would a lot of people and we're just masturbating. Yeah. You would go on there and people would be looking for people doing that. It's a random video chat.

It's a predator haven. It shows you like you're being recorded. You cannot do this. If you're looking for sexual content, go here instead. Because what it does is it randomly pull someone up and it's some 40 year old. My son was talking about this because like, again, like there, I don't know at that age

where it's just like all these weird things are out there and they're like, you know, what is this? And like their friends were looking at it and that's exactly what happened. You keep like flipping through to the next person. Some dude has his pants off and just like, oh, kids, oh no. Bro, you know what is, it's disturbing. What's even crazier to me is the app that Andrew was just showing

me when we recorded where it makes you look like you make an old fucking dude look like he's 17. Yes, and you can't tell. He's he just brought it to my face. It looks crazy. Yeah, so now you've got these freaking weirdos, these predators who are like talking to people. So some 13 year old girl thinks she's talking to some 14. Why are we making it easier for pedophiles? Like what's happening? I don't like, like everything is like, like it's in their favor.

Like what did interesting thought, like okay, because obviously something like this, like I don't think the person who created Omega will probably go, oh, this will be great for pedophiles. I think you create something like that. And you actually think of the things like, I believe my immediate concern though, if I was building something like that,

like how can you not think of that? Well, that's because you're a fucking dad and you deal with all that stuff. Like this is probably some young entrepreneur who invented it. Okay, but why make your face look younger? There are, that's some point I'm heading right now. Is that, that one I go, I get like, okay, of course, whatever we're doing, found a way to use it or what with that.

But why would you ever make an app that makes you look 30 years younger? Yeah, because if you're 17, you don't give a shit. Yeah, so obviously it's a bunch of 50 year old. Yeah, so who are you? Yeah, what I tell you. How else is that app used? Andrew, is it used in the other way?

I imagine there's other apps that you can do it, this is strictly a TikTok. Oh, that's four ticked off Yeah, it's just a filter called teenage look now see age look. I'm telling you dude the filter like You're like young Teenager wants to try and look like a teenager. So it's only for old dudes How do we not just create an app like this and then just whoever subscribe to this and uses it? We target and we have in jailed. Like the Washington Reds gets trapped that I told you about the other day. It's a big honey pot.

This is, we get them all, we get a bunch of trucks. You know, and we go like stop and we figure out where they live and we throw them in trucks. Didn't they do, didn't they do like a big sting on pedophiles like that where they set them all up with some bullshit like that? I thought I had reached. Well, there was that show to catch a part of it.

That was a great show. Yeah, I was, I don't think I've ever seen it. Although, I mean, you know, when they get caught, they're like, oh, I got, oh, it was just hanging out. Yeah, oh, the best one. I always say, I was worried about this one. I didn't want anybody to actually, you know, Oh, take advantage of this poor person.

Oh, man. Too bad I was on TV because I wish it was like, just beat the shit I don't want to look at. Yeah, a lot better shit. But I think I'm telling you, I think China, just China owns TikTok. I really do think that they're, this literally, slowly fucking with our kids,

because they can, because it's this product, and they're changing the algorithm, and they're promoting terrible ideas. Yeah, it's like, otherwise, they'd be running the same algorithm in programming for their own I mean if they if they did and all that is is very Of course they are why wouldn't we would do the same thing I'm in the state to each other

You have to you kind of have to appreciate the brilliance in it. Yeah, I mean or our stupidity Well, I or the combination of both it absolutely brilliant and we're so stupid that we know it and we still we still Are involved we're still doing it we know it and we still we still are involved We're still doing it like that psychologically like crushed that the disconnect on on things like that right now are just Wild to me like we I know we went on a little rant I don't want to and I want to rehash I know Doug won't like want to rehash But the whole like all the news that came out around COVID and this and that and like how there's still people

Walking around with mask and doing stuff like that. It's so absurd to me. And now we have all this stuff coming out about January 6th. The main dude who's like the super bad dude in January 6th is like strolling through the entire place with cops, like walking him through all that. I haven't seen that video. You haven't seen it? No.

Oh yeah, it's all over the place right now. It's come on viral. But I mean, it's like this cognitive dissonance that we have right now is unbelievable to me where we're being proven and shared and told these things and yet still just all the villains and crazy emergency, like everything that was being promoted so heavily is completely

absolutely. Look, this is, uh, I'll say January 6, TikTok. I mean, all these things, I go, you don't have to go, you can go back, you can go back to any emergency, any scary time. Look, this is not, uh, this is not new what I'm about to say, but under the guise of emergency and fear, uh, things tend to get passed that would not get passed. Otherwise, Hitler did this.

Hitler achieved total power. He got elected, by the way, freely, but he achieved total power because he feared. There was a fire, it was a Reichstag fire, a government building hot fire. He blamed it on radicals and said, I need more power to stop these terrorists. And they gave it to him.

Of course, you never gave it back, right? September 11th gave us things like NDAA and the Patriot Act. And COVID gave us a lot of things that aren't gonna go away. So, you know, January 6th, like here's my big thing with January 6th. I don't care which side you're on

or what you think or whatever. To me, it's weird that we have a capital building that got that easily. It's like people took it over like that. Like that easy. What do you mean by take over? You mean there's a lot of people that, I know, but what I see, okay, and by the way, we know people that were there, okay, I know somebody who was there and what the description

that they give from being there is nothing like what we've been told on the news. And then now you see this footage that's this footage was held. Okay, they've had this forever. This is all from inside the building. It's the do with the the bro. Look at him walking. Why are they walking around with their escorting? They're helping him.

They're checking doors that are locked for him and they let him in. He says a prayer inside there and he thinks the police officers for being so kind and touring him through this place like it was not It was not what everybody made it out to be I mean what we were being told it was like the the greatest assault to our Democracy really really the greatest of everything that we've had happened like come on dude. It's so weird Yeah, you haven't seen this no We just got clips with people climbing the walls and like the crazies right the ones that are in their Dressed up and in face paint and in buffalo hats and yeah, I mean that's the main guy right there. That's who it is That's the big now he got a job for a while right I think he's still there. Yeah, yeah, they call him the QAnon shaman

I'm not showing you. Oh my God, dude. Wow. It's just, yeah. I guess it's all just too weird to really process, you know, like the whole thing. It's just like, I think people are kind of in a state of like, I don't really know what to believe. I don't know, we are, you know, and I'm not,

I don't decide, there's this huge movement right now in the R space too of like, you know, making money off of these, like, trying to make men again, so like that. And now in the R space too, of like making money off of these, like trying to make mid-man again, so like that. And I know the mission is ideal, but there's also a bunch of people that are just profiteering off of all this. But there is something to be said about just like,

how, you know, pacified we've all become. I saw that video that's going viral right now from ABC News of the dude that's on the airplane who's making threats to everybody on the plane, so he's gonna kill all of them. But you do just sit there. Yeah, he's surrounded by like six dudes. No, guys, and not a single dude sets stands up. And this isn't like some 300 pound like gorilla. That's like talking shit. Yeah, some fucking soy boy weighs like 160 pounds, who's

mouthing off and making threats to everybody while there's six grown men like right there, nobody even turns their head or says anything to him. And then he gets, that runs down the aisle and starts to present him with a soul team. One of the flight attendants. It's like you know the guy got on the plane, so you know he's not carrying a knife or a gun.

You guys are that scared to grab him and put him in a headlock or put him in his place? I don't know, after September 11th, I would you would think that they would get tackled real quick. You know, like stop the shit, cause who knows what could happen? Totally. Type of deal.

I mean, on the other side of it, I saw there's this video of this woman who this guy was assaulting someone and she's just looked like a mom. She reaches in her purse, pulls out her gun and just smokes him. Oh shit. Smokes him, just takes him out. I'm like, wow, dude, that was, where was that at? Amazing, I don't know.

It's an old video, I'm sure we can find it. Oh, it's was that at? Amazing. I don't know. It's an old video. I'm sure we can find it. But he's like assaulting someone. And she just reaches in her purse, pulls it out. Ba, ba, ba, guys gone. Like, okay. So there's still some bad asses out there. That would just happen to be a, where that's at.

It wasn't a dude. Maybe we're right. Was it California? I'll say that right now. That ain't happening. We're supposed to talk about butcher box as well. I do want to say this about butcher box. There's always this debate and discussion

about grass-fed versus conventional. I've made this point before, I'll make it again. If you eat a lot of red meat, if you eat it on a daily basis, grass-fed makes a difference. It does. When it comes to the fatty acid profile, the omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acid profile,

the CLA content, which is a fatty acid that's found in meat that can actually have fat burning properties, they call it. Grass fed meat is superior in that sense. It's not this massive difference, but it's big enough a difference to where if you eat red meat on a regular basis, more than four days a week, or especially like I do, seven days a week, and twice a day sometimes then you want to go grass vet makes a big difference and that's the butcher box. I just just text Katrina because I forgot we had this commercial today for butcher box and I've been

meaning to share with the team for when we did have this. She just made a dish that look it's like a meatloaf but you call it something, because it is an Italian dish because we, she... I know what we call it, Sicilian, I'm gonna butcher it. I think we call it a bruscheluno. I think we call it, it's like meat and it's rolled up. So in the inside is like bread crumbs cheese. So she used, yeah, so, and it's a healthy version

of that sauce on it. Yeah, it's a healthy version of that. So we use like zucchini noodles instead of like real pasta. And then she used like a different, she actually subbed out whatever the cheese that it called for for like mozzarella, which is lower calorie. And it basically, it's, she used the butcher box,

ground beef, made this dish, and it looks like meatloaf. And the center of it is turkey wrapped in cheese down the, down the middle of it, and then has the marinara sauce over it with the, hoo, it was good. Yeah, do you guys make sauce? Or do you buy it? She bought it. She bought it. Yeah, do you guys make sauce? Or do you buy it?

She bought it. She bought a sauce. Yeah, yeah, I wish I had an Italian friend who actually can. Yeah, like, you buy me to do some like, can. Yeah, I literally, I saw some. Your orders of sauce at home. Oh, what if you were to bring it? Yes, why don't you hook that up?

I would step in a sauce. Yeah, I'm curious. I would love that. I gotta bring it. Cause we don't need a whole lot, my house, we don't need a lot of sauce, believe it or not. I know my parents love it. In the red sauce, please.

They get all upset. No, it's red sauce. I'll bring you guys some. Yeah, I would love that. So who's our shout out today? Adam, he had somebody, right? Oh, yeah, no, so I wrote down this. I just found her recently.

So if she ends up being terrible, the police tell me, because I would. Oh, okay. I thought about the other day, I don't recommend. No, you know, I thought about this the other day like as we were shouting people, I'm like, we should probably be careful. We shout somebody out, who we like, you know, you know, I thought about this the other day, like as we were shouting people, I'm like, you know what, we should probably be careful.

We shout somebody out, we're like, kind of, you know, you know, you'll even follow them for like maybe a few months and I think they're all great questions. They're supposed to be radical. Radical ideas, you know what I'm saying? They're like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

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My question is about grip strength, the maybe hand positioning, really just hand pain during pull-ups and hanging leg raises. So when doing a pull-ups or hanging leg raises, type exercises, it's my hands and my shoulders that always give out first. It seems like I feel like I should be able to do more reps from a back and core perspective, and especially I'm in the last ball right now and with the 30 second rest,

like the Hay and Leg Race at the end, the set can third, fourth set, there's just like, I can only hold on for very little time, so then I end up doing some of those and then moving directly into like the Leg Race is on kind of the dip bar or something when I can't hold on any longer. Yeah, that's a good substitute.

All right, so how long have you been strength training in this way? How long have you been, I guess, testing your grip with heavy weights? So I've been, I'm 32. I've been working out, lift instance, I was like 18, 19. You know, there's been times when I've done tons and tons of pullups in my training like hundreds before we can even then You know after like 12 or so. It's just my hands are just done Okay, now when you say they're done is it the pain on the hands or is it the grip strength itself or both the fatigue of it? I think it's I think it's mostly the hands and then it also after after my hands

I'll be my shoulders to that'll start to feel it. Yeah, okay, it's mostly the hands and then it also after my hands, you know, it'll be my shoulders too, that'll start to feel it. Yeah, okay. So I would work on, I would start working on mobility on the wrist, hands and shoulders just to give you a better connection to some of those stretched ranges of motion. So when you start to feel that fatigue in the shoulders when you're hanging, because I mean, you think yourself, what do my shoulders have to do with hanging with her stabilizers in there certain muscles getting stretched and mobility work tends to help a lot with that and how is that going to contribute to grip strength? You'll find that when you fatigue in other parts of your body other parts of your body that some don't seem to be connected We'll also start to experience fatigue as well. So shoulders start to get fatigued

Then it starts to travel to the hands almost. And that's because there's kind of a systemic fatigue effect that's happening. Now, as far as specifically working on strength for the hands, nothing I've ever done in my entire life has ever worked as well as frequent training of the grip. Frequent. Now, the key here is not to train with any kind of intensity.

You're looking at moderate intensity at most. If it's a workout you're doing every day, you're gonna quickly. Yeah, you're gonna quickly over train your hands. So you can get yourself like a gripper. You can get yourself a squeeze ball. You could use a piece of paper, let you crumple and squeeze.

And you wanna train it about 50% intensity, and you wanna practice this throughout the day. Literally 50% intensity, but practice it three, four, five times a day for two, three minutes. So what I used to do is I used to have a hand gripper that I would have on my desk, and then when I would train clients at the beginning of every session, I grabbed the hand gripper and I would just have 50% intensity.

I'd squeeze it, you know, my right, and then I'd squeeze it my left. Then I'd hold it for a little bit of my right, you know, like I said, wait till I get to about 50% where I think, I could probably double the time. I'll stop right there. Do the same thing on my left. And I would just practice throughout the day.

And that made my grip strength in stamina go through the roof by doing it. But the mistake that I made at first was training with too much intensity doing that because then I just fried myself. I got Tennis Elbow and all kinds of other issues. I would definitely echo the wrist mobility and all those drills like

retro lift, handcuffs hustle rotation, that kind of stuff. And then one exercise too, if you wanna kinda work a little bit more on isometrically kinda holding and sustaining position and challenging that position. I love the bottoms up kettlebell hold. So you would do that like in a rack position with the kettlebell straight up upside down. So it's challenging

left to right, it's challenging rotation and just being able to sustain that and like doing incremental sets with that. So whatever that starts out with, whether it's like 10, 20 seconds, 30 seconds a minute and you kind of build and progress from there. But like South Saini, you don't want wanna overdo it. This is all about like frequency. So pick a couple of these challenging exercises that will help to get some control there. So along those lines, that's where I was thinking

is loaded hangs. So are you working out at home or are you working out at a gym? I'm going to gym now because I was running an antiballac cruise that I work out at home a lot, but I do have a bar at home. Oh, you do have a way to load. Oh, you do. I mean, to me, I would load for time,

being cautious of what Sal and Justin are saying, which is, don't go and try and fry the forms the first time, but set a good time. A time that is challenging enough that you're challenged, whether you're not crushing your forms and hang, and do a fully extended out hang with some weight and do it for time, and then slowly try to progress that time and increase the frequency of that. So like, I might do it, you know, once a day at first and see how I, and to a moderate amount of time. And then the next week, I'm gonna add maybe 10 seconds

or 15 seconds to it and then eventually add it twice a day, then if you can, three times a day, you jump up there and grab it. But load up, load up your, you know, I don't know if you have a belt that you can load it up, or you can pinch it between your thighs or whatever you can do to load it and hang, and hang for time, especially since that's since those are the two things, pull-ups and the hanging leg raises where

it's giving out, I think increasing the frequency of a loaded hang will actually help that too. So I'm going to add to that and change it just a little bit because I really, really, really want to emphasize that overtraining the forearms is where people nine at a 10 times will mess up when trying to strengthen their grip. And it's usually the intensity that they over apply when they're doing the frequency.

So let me change that a little bit. Here's what I want you to do. Hang on your bar once a day at a moderate intensity. Time that. So let's say it's 30 seconds. Let's say you could do for 30 seconds. Hang on your bar once a day at a moderate intensity. Time that. So let's say it's 30 seconds. Let's say you could do for 30 seconds. Now here's what you do. For 30 days, you're not gonna do more than 30 seconds.

You're not gonna add me time until after 30 days. So what it's gonna feel like, is this you're gonna feel easier and easier and easier and easier and easier and easier and easier and then you add time and then you do the same thing. This is an old Soviet era style of training for strength. So the Soviets, they did a lot of studies on strength training because of the Olympics

and weightlifting, and they would do stuff where they would take an athlete, have them squat, let's say 300 pounds for 10 reps, which for the athlete, let's say was moderate to moderate high intensity, and then they'd say, you're gonna do this every day, no matter how easy it gets. We're not gonna add any weight.

Then at the end of 30 days, then we'll add weight. And what that does is it allows your body to adapt, you don't over train, and then you get these huge gains and strength at the end. You should not feel like you're frying or working out your forms. You should feel like you're practicing. You should feel like you're practicing

and you're getting better. If it starts to feel like you're frying yourself, it's too hard. When you're applying frequency, when you're doing this on a daily basis, does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. And give yourself a little bit of time. Now as far as exercises are concerned, if once a week you want to do two or three specific exercises for your forum, which by the way, I wouldn't add on top of what we're doing, that would be something later on that you can add. First do what we're saying. But if you want to add exercises, consider this. Grabbing a bar, that isometric strength,

you're going to get from grabbing the bar. It has a little bit of carryover outside of that range of motion, but you also want to challenge yourself with different types of grip. So you can wrap a towel around the bar, making it thicker, you can do a pinch grip, you can do this kind of a pinch grip

or it's more like the fingertips. Just different ranges of motion with that isometric, we'll give you more of a complete type of grip strength. And that's something I would do later on once you've got really good. So like, it carries with plates, like things like that so you can get like the different variations of grip.

But you need to not just always like this all the time. Yes, but you need to feel good, okay? So you should be feeling good this entire time. I don't want you to be like, oh my God, my hands are sore, oh my God, my forearms are hammered. That means you over did it when you're applying this kind of daily type of frequency. Do you have maps prime probe, by the way, Chris?

I do not, I have prime, but not prime probe. Well, I'm gonna send you prime probe because the wrist and shoulder mobility movements, I want you, those you practice every single day, I think that'll make a big difference too. Yeah, and I've brought the opposite. That's the awesome. And a perfect world.

The 90 90s changed my, everything else for the lower body, so. Looking forward to something else. And in a perfect world, you do the wrist and shoulder stuff in there, right before you go do this hang that we're talking about. And that's like, that becomes like a daily ritual for you. Yeah, little 10 minute thing that you do every single day

and you can do it any time of the day, you feel like it. And do the mobility for the shoulder's wrist and then do the hang. You do that for a month and you'll see progress in that for sure. Okay, awesome. Thank you guys. You got it, man. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, you know, the thought it was too much intensity to increase by, you know, 10, 15 seconds. Yeah, because

he's gonna, he's like, I tell you, 99% of time, I mean, you're just overdue. I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna disagree with you because it's, you're always better off. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think I think I think I personally know how to feel. Yeah, intensity enough to know that I could do it every week. I could progress more intuitive. Yeah, for you. But you're, I mean, you're going listening to you, I think, is probably the the safer route that he's not going to over overdo it. Yeah, just, you know, and then, you know, more along the lines of hand and grip strength, you are hands have tremendous capacity for strength and stamina. So for people who are like, I can't do these back exercises, I can't do this pulling movements, my hands give out or whatever. If you train your hands properly, they will catch up. Your hands

connect you to the world, they're designed or we evolve to be able to have hands that are extremely agile, that we have great dexterity and strength, tremendous amounts of strength. And your evidence is, I mean, you look at some of the top grip athletes like rock climbers and gymnasts and judo and Jiu Jitsu fighters, like they, their hands are fine.

Their hands don't give out, other things give out before their hands do. You know, some of the strongest I ever, my, and it's funny because I actually never really thought about it till way later, like unpacking, like what exactly was going on? The strongest like my grip, my pull ups all were. When I was a kid in high school, from 16 to 19,

I worked on the dairy. Yeah, milking cows, right? And so, and you, and you just prime them. It's not, so you're, I'm doing this rotation with my, my fingers for every one of these cows for every single day, right? That I worked in addition to that. There was, when I walk into the barn, there used to be this bar,

like this, and it was the piping for all the milk and then I ran it, and I would hop, and it was like a routine. I just hop up, and when I first did it, the very first time was like just a couple, like two pull-ups, three pull-ups. And I did it, it was my routine. Every time, it was just a couple, like two pull ups, three pull ups. And it was my routine every day. I was just messing around as a kid,

you know, just messing around doing that. But over time, I've always doing that every day, milking the cows, and then I'd start the work with doing a couple pull ups. I turned into like 15, 20 pull ups, I could wrap out on that fat grip, and addition to all that I was doing, oh my God, I had like that.

Yeah, if you approach it, just like, you're brushing your teeth every day. Yeah, it's like it's something that's like really non-invasive, but it's like you're just constantly kind of stimulating that grip and like doing very, very, very, very, very, very, very strong. Yeah, I never felt sore. It's so strong. I never felt sore.

Yeah, I never want to feel sore. That's why I never even, it's snuck up on me. I never once thought I was like, I didn't take treat like, oh, I'm trying to get straight. I bet if you were trying, you would have overdone it. No, totally. If I were trying to push the pull ups, it's like, I just would hop up, goof around, pull up until I couldn't do it, you know,

and then drop. That was all I did. And then I would do the cow thing all day. And it was like, look, some of the strongest hands you'll ever find in relation to body weight are like blue collar workers, construction workers. Go swing a hammer with a 50 year old guy who's been doing it for 30 years. And yeah, did your, just my dad, so my dad was a contractor and his form strength was so crazy.

And that was like one of the games he used to play with us kids when we were little, because he would just hold on to us. We'd be like trying to find him, maybe like holding on to both kids, just like hanging on to us. And we would just, everything, you got both hands, you're trying to break the, it was just like, and he used to just sit there and laugh. I used to do it with my dad where he would put,

he would just take out his and his finger like this and he'd tell us to bend it. And I'd just pull it back and he would just hold his finger like this. And for the longest time, we couldn't move it. It was great. Our next caller is Tony from Texas. Tony, what's happening?

How can we help you? Hey, what's going on guys? Just like everybody else, I just want to say thanks. You guys have helped me a ton. Personally, I've lost a couple years back. I lost almost a hundred pounds. Wow. Yeah. Thanks to pond, a lot of the things. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the things that you guys put out there and everything. And so big thanks, man. Like everything you just put out there is top notch quality. So I'm digging it. But so just a little bit about me, I just turned 39 on the 27th of last month. And I kind of got a little bit laps in my eating and

my weight started creeping back up on me. And I'm given myself a year to basically transform my body, to get the best aesthetics, whatever, right? Just completely different from what your stereotypical dad bod would look like. They say it under me. And so I want to avoid that at all costs. A while back, I got my hands on the RGB bundle. I was running that, loved it. I started running it as more of an upper lower though.

I guess for me, it was more into chasing the pump. I guess through a lot of the things, and that was easier. I felt more engaged. I'm not really sure what to call it, but then when you guys rolled out with Annabelle like advanced, and I heard it's failure training and it's more of an upper lower split, I immediately my ears perked up, I told my wife about it, and she bought it from a birthday, and I've been running that ever since. And so I love the program, but failure training is a bit new to me.

And so I have a couple questions for you guys that might be a little basic and I know you guys have covered it before, but just kind of in the realm of failure training, I'm just wondering if the rules still apply. And so my first question is, for those of us who have a bit of a time constraint, would rest pause me something that you guys would suggest or consider on volume days. In 10-Sity Days, I can get those done like 40-45 minutes or so, but on 10-Sity Days, I'm running like hour and a half almost. And so, do you want to get your thoughts on that?

What do you mean by running rest pause on the volume days? Because that would be adding more intensity on the volume days. How do you want to get your thoughts on that? What do you mean by running rest pause on the volume days because that would be adding more intensity on the volume days? How do you mean? Well, so with me, like most of my workouts before, I would always, like the happy zone for me was running just about an hour or so if it all possible. And so running this program through the volume days, and you know, like it's just the time in which I'm done,

and then trying to like hustle and get ready for work, and all this, I get written, I work out first thing in the morning. My thought was, would rest cause be something that I could do for the volume days to kind of scale the time back, so I'm not in, like, I guess, a rush to get through it. Did I lose rest pause? Yeah, how are you applying?

Because I think, so I'm not understanding what you mean by rest pause. Yeah, because rest pause, from what I understand, is you do a set to, let's say, super high intensity. You put the weight down for 10 seconds, you get another couple reps. Like cluster sets. Yeah, like a cluster set.

So how are you, you might be using the definition a little differently. What do you mean? Do you mean like cut the workout, like take some of it out and do the rest later? Like what do you mean? No, no, sorry, I'll explain. So basically I'm carrying my sets to like one to two reps from failure, resting for you know,

20 to 30 seconds or so, and then going back at it, but bringing the rep down for the subsequent set. I see. So instead of doing like the traditional, like do a set, rest, do a set, rest, you're doing something like that to get through the sets faster. Are you adding the optional third exercise or are you doing the two?

Because in the program, you could do like two exercises, three sets each, and then there's an optional third exercise. Are you doing the lower volume version or the higher volume version? So first, day one, I did the higher volume version, and then day two, I skipped a couple of the optional ones just to see. Okay.

But yeah. So, no, I would prefer you do the lower volume version rather than doing a rough boss. Especially, and if you were going to do rest pause for sure. Yeah, I wouldn't do risk, because that's a little bit of an intensity technique. And the goal with the volume days is not to hammer intensity, it's to get a good pump. Okay, it's to get just a good pump, and you want moderate high intensity at most.

So if you were to do that cell, okay, I would want you to dramatically reduce the weight and then do your rest pause thing. If you're doing it for time, right? If he has to like power through it. I would rather cut the volume. Because the, the reason,, the, the, the, the, Maps and a bulk advanced is written to alternate

high intensity with a lower intensity. I mean, this is, it's more complex than this. But if we go, if we use a high intensity technique on a week, like the volume weeks, then what ends up happening is you're gonna plateau really hard. Because we're not allowing your body to work with different adaptations. So what I found was when you're gonna plateau really hard. Because we're not allowing your body to work with different adaptations. So what I found was when you're using high intensity techniques

like failure, four straps, partial reps, rest pause, okay. When you're doing that, if you alternate it with more traditional weeks, we can really stretch out the type of results people get. So I would prefer you to just cut the volume. Cut the volume. So instead of doing nine sets for chest, do the six. Or if six is too many, do five or four,

rather than going rest pause. Just get the pump, get the squeeze, and then watch what happens on the failure weeks. And believe me, that's where you'll get the more consistent results. Rather than trying to squeeze everything in because you're time limited. Okay. Okay. Okay.

That makes sense. Yeah. And you know, most people have a tendency to want to... your time limited. Okay. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. And you know, most people have a tendency to want to, and this was a debate, I'll be honest with you. This was a debate in the studio. When I presented the program to the guys,

they were like, why are you even putting an optional, you know, extra sets? That's right. Because everyone's gonna do that. I hate that. That's exactly what I said. I knew they would all gravitate towards it. Yeah, and 85% to 90% of everyone is gonna do better without them.

Yeah. And so it was a big debate back and forth, and I'm realizing they were right. I probably shouldn't have put them in there because people tend to wanna do the higher volume version thinking that it'll give them better results. But vast majority of people will get better results doing the lower volume version.

I see. Okay. You have some more questions? I can see you wrote a few up here. Okay. You have some more questions. I can see you up here. Okay. Yeah. So my next question is, is when you when you're running a program that that implements the failure training, when it comes to progressive overloading, does it make more sense to slow the reps down. You know, maybe you stay at the same weight for a longer period of time,

but work more on the tempo side or doesn't make more sense to increase your weight every week, you know, two and a half to five times. I like that question. I like that question. No, you like that question a lot. We just talked about this the other day. And we would, so if we are training you,

I would mess with your tempo first, because here's the thing, like, and this all depends on the experience level, how long I've been training somebody, but I would always manipulate tempo before I add more weight to the bar, because I'm a stickler with my clients about form and technique.

I want your form to be just absolutely beautiful. And so if I can utilize a tool like tempo, slowing down tempo to challenge you with progressive overload, without making the movement more difficult by adding weight, you're far better off. It's a safer approach to do it. You're still overloading the board.

This reward is better on the reward side. You're gonna get, you'll get, so it's not, and you're not sacrificing results. So if you had two people, one guy added five pounds, the other guy slowed down his tempo. They're gonna get the same muscle growth and strength results. The difference is the tempo guy

is gonna have way better technique form, less risk of injury. Now there is a, there is a cap to this. So obviously, you're not gonna go and do a 30 second rep. So, typically what I'll do is I'll take somebody from, you know, traditional tempo, and I'll work them more towards a four second negative. After four or five second negative,

then I'll add weight. You're good. Most people don't even do that. That's why I always love the coach there first. Now, if you're somebody who's actually for the last year, two years, you've been doing everything 4222 to a T. I might not, then I might add load to you

because you're probably moving really slow and controlled and you probably got pretty damn good former or. But most people, you've probably heard me on the podcast say every time I walk into gym, I can't find one person doing a true 422. So if that's still in your tool belt, I'm using that shit first until you've used that up, and then I'm gonna look.

Yeah, if you're doing like most people do like a 212, and then you're like, oh my god, I could add five pounds of the bar, go 422. And then the next week, if you're like, wow, I could add five pounds of the bar with 422, now you can add weight. People don't realize how challenging and effective that is. So that's such a great thing to bring.

Yeah, because here's one of the drawbacks, I don't know if it sounds like a drawback, you can sound more like a sales pitch. But one of the drawbacks to training with failure properly is the strength gains come fast and furious. And now why is that a drawback? Because people tend to want to add weight to the bar before perfecting their form. So the risk of injury tends to be higher. I experienced it myself

recently just putting the program together. I was just loading the bar and getting excited and I tweaked my hip a little bit, my knee a little bit. So you're on point. I go whatever your tempo is, bring it to 422 and then the following week, if that feels too easy, then you add weight. Okay. So the same rules apply for both the volume and intensity and weeks. Yeah, in fact the volume weeks, I don't care what's on the bar. I don't care about how much weight is on the bar. I'm trying to feel the muscle as much as possible. Weight on the bar is more important for the failure for the failure weeks. Okay, okay, sweet. That's awesome. All right.

And then the last question that I had, so you know, with the RGB bundle, there's just a natural progression, you know, from program to program to program, rinse or pee, run it through, jump to something else, you know. But with anecdotal like advanced, is that a program, like, for my specific situation, like, would you guys suggest that I just run this for a year? Because when I look at it, I feel like it has so many components. You've got your mobility, you've got the strength, the hypertrophy. I feel like there's so many components within this thing that I'm just curious, like, would

I be shooting myself in the foot by sticking with this program, or should I consider like a next step after this? Yeah, if you're, okay, so this is a good question because it gets real tempting. When you follow a program and you see like really amazing gains, but every program, every program has a weakness. And that's true for all programs, including maps and obl ballad advanced.

The closest one that doesn't is mass performance. Mass performance is close, but what's the weakness of mass performance? It might be like the bodybuilding side, right? Right. Not going to build a scope. I believe it will. Right. So I would go, you could do anabolic advanced twice in a row, but I would follow that with

performance. And then you can jump back on if you want. Or you could go anabolic advanced, back to anabolic, then you could jump back on if you want. Or you can go antibolic advanced, back to antibolic, then you can go back to antibolic advanced, but I would throw performance in there, this year at least once. Yeah, I would, you know. Yeah, because otherwise you're gonna notice some mobility issues.

Yeah, you wanna make sure that your joints are gonna, you know, be strong in supporting you properly. So, you know, being in the same plane emotion a bit too long and this is what happens a lot of times when we get it, especially a lot of these programs where we're doing a lot of the compound lifts. You know, inevitably, it repetitive stress, we're just gonna keep experiencing that, which is then gonna lead to problematic issues down the road. So to be able to address that with multi-planar movement and also expressing, you know, your joint's full potential. You want to do a program that's going to do that.

I'm always a fan of testing these boundaries and becoming more self-aware of the things that the guys are alluding to right now. So I wouldn't be against you like trying it, but then I would also caution you like, okay, as you're doing this program over and over, be very aware. Like how, you know, how do your hips feel? How do your shoulders feel? how do your shoulders feel, how do you start paying attention to your joints? And if they're starting to talk to you,

the probably the reason why they're talking to you is you are, you're missing out on some of the benefits that you get in performance, it's like Justin saying, moving in different planes like that, challenging rotation. That's not, even though we do have mobility in there, which that's good, and it'll help mitigate some of that for somebody who could probably get away

with running it a little longer. It's not at the same capacity as something like performance, which is very- Also loading it, right? Yeah. You're strength training that rotation instead of just expressing it. And for a guy that's your age, our age, that stuff really starts to matter.

You know, I always, because I typically lean towards an advanced anabolic or an aesthetic type program because that's what I like. But I always know when I'm lean towards advanced antibiotic or an aesthetic type program because that's what I like. But I always know when I'm missing out on like my rotational movements and stuff, in fact, literally yesterday's workout, like the way I started was these lunges with a bar with a, what's our little sticks,

mobility stick behind my shoulders. And I take deep long strides, completely open up because I recognize that I've lost disability to rotate really far just from neglecting it for a couple months while it's been more like six months of neglecting it. And so I've modified my program and I've added these lunges with rotation in it

to incorporate that because I know I've been neglecting it. So you gotta pay attention to that stuff. Oh, awesome, awesome, yeah. Those are the three main questions that I had. Awesome. I know Tony. You're good Tony. Thanks man. Hey, are you in our forum? I'm not. All right. We're going to put you in the forum. I want to follow up on this. You said you gave yourself a year goal. I want to see what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stay in touch with this. Awesome. Thanks, man. Keep killing him, man. Awesome. Thank you guys. Take it easy

Those are all really good questions really good question. Yeah, I love that he asked the tempo question Oh, yeah, I'll all great great questions because that's that takes some self-awareness to I still feel fall to it You know, I'll do a way and I'll be oh wow I could add weight to the bar But if I'm like self-aware, right? Everybody does that's why the gym I swear to God It's like one of my favorite things to make people stick to I would you know and maybe it's because it. Yeah, bro, everybody does. That's why the gym, I swear to God, it's like one of my favorite things to make people stick to. I would, you know, and maybe it's because you guys

were more like strength guys, and I never cared about that. I always like, I always, I always went on form technique tempo direction, because I always liked, I always looked at, and this is obviously of course, the kind of body builder in me, the like working out like has an art form.

And I always wanted all the exercise I did. I wanted to look the best. I wanted you to see the way I move the weight, so I'd just look. Well, that's still in performance in too. I'm super stringent on my technique and making sure it's sharp and my lines are perfect. That all matters.

It's a... I want to lift more weight. And it's, you know. I wanna live more way than you. Yeah, most people are that way. Yeah, but that's okay. And that's it, but no, most people are like that. Like, but I mean, and saying thing for like, man, I think it's like one of the most attractive qualities is like to watch Katrina exercise.

Like to see her move in a squat or like seeing a woman with like beautiful form is such an attractive quality because I like that, you know. Totally. Our next caller is Jenna from Ohio. Hey Jenna, how can we help you? Hey guys, I just want to say thank you kind of like everyone does because you guys have really changed my life, um, like getting me into weightlifting and realizing that I can be strong. Awesome. Nice. Thank you. So I'm going to kind of read for my question with maybe a couple of details I guess I realized I should have put in there, but I'm 35 years old. I'm about 5 foot 850 pounds. I've been weightlifting consistently for about two years.

So previously I was a rower in college and then after college I kind of did distance running I was a rower in college and then after college I kind of did distance running like 25 kilometer trail runs before finding weightlifting and I kind of fell into that because I broke my leg in 2020 on a run and then was like well I can't run I need to do something so I started weightlifting and then got back into running to finish up some races that I had started. I already signed up for. But since then, when I started listening to you guys, I've done map 10 of Bollock, I've done performance, powerlifts, suspension, aesthetic, and then I'm currently doing maps 15 feet advance version. And I had, my best results were with aesthetic. Like, I noticed such a change in my physique with that. And now I'm in phase three of maps 15.

And I'm just feeling like constantly tired and sore. And I've been sick, like several times in a row where I had like a cold and then strapped her out and then another cold. And so I've kind of got this feeling that maybe I'm over training, but like, should I be taking it easier during my workouts or taking some rest days? And I guess I'm wondering if that makes sense where I did aesthetic, which was a really high volume program and felt

great. And now I feel like I'm doing a lower volume program and I feel terrible. Yeah. Sounds like you might be hammering it a bit too hard. Yeah. That's the same way. I got some questions for you. Yeah. sounds like you might be hammering it a bit too hard. Yeah, that's the same way. I got some questions for you. Yeah, I need to know more. When you broke your leg running, how did you break your leg? I was, it was muddy. It was a trail run and I rolled my ankle

and kind of fell down and broke it right above the ankle. Okay, and have you ever had like a, Austria, have you ever checked your bone density. Have you ever had any Chained any hormone issues or issues with anything like anything like hair falling out nails feeling weak hot cold and tolerant Same thing like that No, I mean, I think my hormones are really good They I had when I had X-rays for the leg, everything was great, other than I had broken my ankle area.

Okay. So I still have more questions. Do you notice, like, okay, when you, because you're right, aesthetic is a ton more volume than Maps 15. So the likelihood of us over training is less likely, unless we have other things going on. One, I'd be interested in, what do you notice different in your life currently time? Now, we do have the factor this, and it is winter time, lots of colds,

lots of sicknesses is going around, so that is a potential factor. One, what is like some of the, do you have other stress outside of training working out? Do you notice when you do something like Massive Team, which is mainly just a couple of barbell lifts versus Maps aesthetic, which is more body builder-esque focus, do you train differently?

Like do you tend to like really load the barup on the barbell movements? And then when you were doing Maps aesthetic, where you more like focused on the squeeze and the pump, like how are you training differently when you approach the weights? And then also other outside factors in your life right now? Is anything different?

So I think I realized kind of after this that one thing that's been like really different is Starting kind of around the new year. I started I've had like a long history of gut issues And I kind of like that had a lot of trouble there So I think that that's maybe one thing contributing where I've been seeing couple doctors about it and I'm starting to feel better, but I've definitely been like the last couple of months constantly with that issue.

Jenna, there we go. That's, it's not one thing contributing. That is the thing. Yeah, yeah. So you have a hit look, you were a rower, a runner. I asked you questions to see if you were over trained before you weren't. Your body naturally has a high capacity

for exercise stress, just based off of what we've known of you or what you're telling us about your exercise history. Maps aesthetic give you great results. Maps aesthetic is like 10 times the volume of Maps 15. And that was gonna be the next question that I asked you was about your gut. If your gut health is off, you have a, you have systemic inflammation

and stress in your body. And if MAP 15 is over-training you, you're probably over-trained without even working out, just for lack of a better term, because of what's happening with your gut. So I would, I would, I would, I would forget about the workout, modifying your workout, get your gut health in check.

Cause bad gut health in check. Cause bad gut health, almost any type of stress is too much stress, almost any, and I know this person is really hard to recover. Yeah, so I would definitely, are you working with a functional medicine practitioner or just regular? I mean, I guess, I'm a neurologist

and I work with someone who does allergy elimination techniques. Okay. Yeah, I would get tested for dysbiosis, I'll work with someone who does allergy elimination techniques. Okay. Yeah, I would get tested for dysbiosis, make sure it's not SIBO or SIFO, see if there's any type of overgrowth that needs to get treated, solve the gut issues. Because if your gut is off, I'm kind of sorry.

I mean, any workout's gonna feel like too much. I mean, it can get real bad. I mean, I've worked with people where a 10 minute walk every day just would fry them. And they would have to sleep 10 hours a day type of deal. So, but once you solve it, everything's gonna fall back into place. Once you solve whatever's causing these gut issues,

everything else, I mean, it could be a parasite. It could be as simple as a parasite. You could do a stool test, they could find a parasite, easy to treat, and then boom, you feel amazing. And meanwhile, back off the intensity, you can still go through the motions as far as lifting the weight and stuff like that, but you know, pull, strip the weight down, strip the weight down, you can practice the form so, but the number one priority and focus should be around healing the gut.

Yeah, I mean, just based off what you did before. Yeah, and then mass 15. To likely go down. It's not the workout. It's, I mean, it is the workout, but it's not because it's the workout. It's the workout because something else is is dramatically reduced your capacity for stress because you're already at a level that is almost overflowing with stress. And it's probably coming from the gut for you to even mention

your gut tells me that it's bad enough for it's an issue that you're looking at. Jenna, take it, take advantage of our free forum too. Are you not in the Dr. Cabral's free forum that we have? MP holistic health? Yeah, I'm in it. Okay, good. Okay, good.

Yeah, so definitely take it. I mean, they're in their answering questions too. I mean, they're far better around the gut stuff than we are. So if you have questions around there, troubleshooting, and then that they obviously offer all the tests you could possibly need.

So take advantage of that. Yeah, because when your gut is off, your inflammation is off, your recovery is off, your hormones will start to be off, sleep will be off. I mean, it literally affects everything. And it's our, this would already be very rare for like a novice person to have a spittle say like, hey, aesthetic was amazing for me. And then also in massive teen years. That doesn't even make sense for that person,

especially for a trained athlete, ex-athlete. Like you definitely have a higher propensity of training, high volume, and then also when you go to 15 and you feel this, it ain't the program, it's something else going on in your life for sure. All right, and you know, are you in our regular forum?

I wanna get some follow-up, so I wanna see how you feel once we get this figured out. know, are you in our regular forum? I want to get some follow up, because I want to see how you feel once we get this figured out. Yeah, I'm not in your forum. You are. You're not. All right, we'll put you in there. I want to hear, I want some follow up, like what's going on, what they found, and you know,

because you're going to, once you've solved your gut issue, it's going to feel like a night and day. You're going to feel like you did before. Awesome. All right. All right, thanks, Jenna. Thank you. You got it Look speaking from personal experience, I'll tell you the difference I know it down I know it to the number the difference in my lean body mass when my gut is off

Versus when my gut is on or good is about 13 pounds of lean body mass That's that's a lot. I'll lose 13 pounds or gain 13. It's massive. It affects my mood. I'm more depressed. I'm more irritable. I'm more anxious. If it gets real bad, I have anxiety all day long.

Well, I told you, I mean, I'm like in the thick of it right now and going through all of those tests for the gut with Dr. Cabral just to kind of get to the root and the bottom of it. Instead of just treating it constantly, having to kind of really nail down like what's going on? Because it is, it's impossible to recover.

It affects your sleep, it affects your mood, the output you have in the gym, all that stuff is related. Yeah, I mean, to me this is really easy to point to that because of the dramatic difference to the programs. Like Maps 15 is the program I put to somebody because they feel maybe over trained in another program. It's like, oh, they're like, oh, I think aesthetics too much volume for you.

Okay, go to Matt. So if she handled aesthetic when she ran that fine and then she goes 15, there's obviously an outside and it couldn't us and maybe it's a little gut. Maybe it's also some personal stress that didn't share. I mean, there's something else. It's not the programming. The only thing I could think of,

that's why I asked her too about, do you know, are you aware of how you train? Because maybe when you did a static, you're kind of like lightweight into the pump and not really pushing it. And then also, you go to a mass 15 barbell. You move it. The athlete comes in and now we're going super 10.

Yeah, but maybe that, but that's not likely, so because there's still a lot 15 barbell. You move it. Athlete comes in and now we're going super intense. Yeah, but maybe yeah, but that's not likely, so because there's still a lot of barbell movements in book and stuff. Yeah, it's still such a little volume. Yeah, yeah, so it's definitely something else. Our next caller is Connor from Oregon. Connor, what's happening? How can we help you?

Hey guys, great to be on the show. Huge fan and listening for like five plus years. Yeah, yeah. You guys are great. Just wanted to say thanks for providing such quality fitness advice for all of us. If it wasn't for you guys, it probably still would be lifting based off of my body weight or my body type. And then as a side note, I just wanted to say thanks as a new dad. I really love all your guys' dad vice. Cool. Thank you. So a little bit about me. I'm 28. I've been left in for like

10 plus years or so, off and on with, you know, injuries and all that good stuff. Life. I recently started falling map symmetry to fix some very obvious muscle and balances that I've got. I really like it so far. The only question that I'm kind of struggling with is I've been dealing with some low testosterone levels for the last couple of years and a half or so. And I have tried a few different things, got on the prescription and didn't see much results from that.

So I decided to just kind of, you know, work my way off of that and just start lifting heavy and see how that feels and I was running an anabolic and I realized that, you know, I was feeling way better, you know, lifting heavy and then anything else I had tried, you know, lead beetle was up, my energy level was up, I felt better, I was in a better mood and all that stuff. I'm kind of afraid I might lose some of those benefits while running symmetry with the rep range that I've been in and some of the lighter lifts. Though I know I need the work of symmetry

to kind of get my body in the right place. I was wondering how you guys might incorporate or should I incorporate maybe a heavy lift or two during running my symmetry days? Or should I just kind of hold out and wait towards the end when I get back to those compounds? Yeah, no, wait till the end, man. Trust the process, brother.

Trust the process, so we've got to go. Four phases, the revealed. I do have a question, though. I do find it really interesting that you were taking test, you were taking test to Ostrone, and you didn't feel better off of the test. Yeah, you said you took a prescription. Was it testosterone or was it something else? test you were taking test to Ostrone and you didn't feel you felt better off of the test. You said you took a prescription.

Was it testosterone or was it something else? No, I was taking something called clomid. It was just like, I bought you this stuff to make more. I was just saying, you're taking testosterone. You're going to feel better. You're going to feel better. I promise you. No, similar, similar, still are started to you, Adam.

Yeah. My kids like five weeks old. So we, you know, wanted to have a kid. So I know I didn't want to, you know, go straight on to try and do that. God. Yeah. So a lot of people feel like garbage on, on Clomid.

HCG is another thing that is a prescription that raises testosterone. But how, you said that you've been battling with, what, what do your numbers look like? Um, when I was first getting tested, I was like, high 200s, low 300s. Okay, that's pretty low. Especially for kids.

Yeah, and then got back up into the 500s, was still kind of just, you know, trying to wait the process out. And then after talking to my doc, unfortunately, like the doctor I had at the place I go left. So I have a new doctor and we're kind of, we're going to play around with a couple things, going to stay off the, the clone mid for another month and a half, and then we'll test my levels again and see where I'm at. Okay.

But overall, I've been feeling a lot better with the heavy lifting in. Yeah, so strength training, it's all strength training, right? When it's done and applied properly and appropriately, they're all going to positively affect things like testosterone and androgen receptor density. That's probably why you felt the best is when you Strength train properly it'll raise testosterone but more than that what it does it increases the receptor density that testosterone attaches to so it makes whatever your levels are feel more effective. Symmetry will do that and Abolish will do that performance will do that. You know any program that's

that's appropriate for your body will do that including symmetry. And then of course when you get to the end that's when you get to the five by five. Crampoundless when everything really really starts to come together. So stay the course, you're doing great with that. And then continue monitor your hormone levels because there are ways of raising testosterone with medications that don't involve taking testosterone. One is clomid, but other people will use things like HCG in combination and they tend to find better success with that.

How's your sleep? How's the, have you been tracking that at all? You know, I average seven-ish hours of sleep. You guys know how it goes with a newer kid. Yeah, and then I get up fairly early for work I mean, I'm usually up between 3 30 and 5 most days depends on the time of year and what we're doing Yeah, I work out in the woods, so you know, I'm up early a lot. Yeah, it's gonna be hard to for the next You know, I mean you got five five week old. Yeah, you got about you got to get six years

Oh You know, I mean, you got five, five week old. You know, you got about, you got to get six months for your Oh, yeah. But you know, intervention is your best friend. Are you, are you in the mind pump hormones forum already? The one on Facebook. Yes, free one, right? Yes. Yes. Okay.

Good. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure you're talking to those guys in there too. You know, I'm a send you to Connor. I'm going to send you Maps 15 because if it really starts to really starts to get overwhelming with the baby and work and all that stuff, I have four kids, I know what it's like. Mass 15 is a great fallback program for that.

It produces phenomenal results when it's the right program. So I'll send that to you so you have it. I got nine. Yeah, we should have marketed that program as the new dad program. Yeah, we should have. Yeah, because it really is like that. It's it's a life saver in that situation. Yeah, so I'll send that to you Conor, so you got it. Thanks guys. You got it. Yeah, I was that one or anywhere was kind of the ones

I was gonna I was gonna look into for my my busier time of the year Yeah, you got it, man. Yeah, congratulations. You got a new baby, huh? Yeah, thanks. Keep up the awesome work fit. You got it, man. Awesome. Yeah, congratulations to a new baby, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, thanks. Keep up the awesome work, guys. You guys are phenomenal. Thanks, man. Take it easy. Yeah, the, you know, that's the thing about strength training.

When it's appropriate, all strength training will do that. It's not like heavy lifting doesn't more than body building, it doesn't more than, provide the right stimulant. Yeah, it's just, it's just if it's appropriate for your body. If it's inappropriate for your body, you're not gonna get the same kind of results. And he did MAP's in a ball, and felt amazing because it's appropriate for your body. If it's inappropriate for your body, you're not gonna get the same kind of results. And he did maps in a ball, and felt amazing because it was perfect for him at that moment.

And it is for most people when they first do it, especially if they come from a background of traditional body building body parts split, high volume type of training. They moved to a full body type routine like that, and they get those types of results. Oh, he'll love it. We just wait until he gets that last phase.

He's gonna blow his mind. Look, if you like Mind Pump, head over to Mind Pump Free.com, he'll love it. He'll just wait till he gets that last phase. He's going to blow his mind. Look, if you like Mind Pump, head over to MindPumpFree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any health or fitness goal. You can also find all of us on Instagram. So Justin is at Mind Pump Justin. Adam is at Mind Pump Adam. You can find me at Mind Pump, Dostephanel.

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