Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2048: The Best Glute Building Exercises, How to Begin Lifting Weights After 40, the Role of Inflammation in Muscle Growth & More

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: The MOST important/valuable investment you will ever make in your fitness journey is hiring a good coach/trainer. (2:26) Fun Facts with Justin: Who was originally cast as the Predator monster? (16:12) The tragic story of Whitney Houston and her daughter. (21:14) Alarming news regarding A.I. (25:03) What are liquid trees and why is there controversy surrounding them? (31:58) Aurelius GETS it! (34:30) Older dad wisdom. (36:30) How feet are the map of the entire body. (42:52) Organifi’s Peak Power is still getting rave reviews! (54:37) Reactions to the UFC/WWE merger. (55:14) Is fame a curse? (59:33) Shout out to Dr. Nicole LePera. (1:03:10) #Quah question # 1 - What are the best glute building exercises as alternatives to hip thrusts? (1:05:04) #Quah question #2 - What are some of the biggest limitations for people who begin lifting for the first time at 40? (1:09:15) #Quah question #3 - If inflammation is necessary for muscle growth, should i still be trying to eat an anti-inflammatory diet? (1:15:39) #Quah question #4 - What are some tips for coming out of contest prep, or a deep strict deficit, to regulate hunger hormones without binging on all the foods? (1:19:50) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit NCI’s Freedom Challenge for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners!  Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** April Promotion: MAPS Anabolic or MAPS Split 50% off! **Code APRIL50 at checkout** Mind Pump #1492: Five Things To Look For In An Online Coach With Jason Phillips Mind Pump #2025: How To Be A Successful Fitness Coach With Jason Phillips Kevin Peter Hall (The Predator) 'Predator (1987)' Behind The Scenes Why Jean-Claude Van Damme Was Fired From Predator - ScreenRant Remember That One Time Bobby Brown Dropped His Coke Live on Arsenio Hall Married father kills himself after talking to AI chatbot for six weeks about his climate change fears Elon Musk's AI History May Be Behind His Call To Pause Development The 10 Smartest Animals in the World – 2022 Rankings New 'Liquid Trees' Divide the Internet Watch My Octopus Teacher | Netflix Official Site A Billion Wicked Thoughts: What the Internet Tells Us About Sexual Relationships The Woman Who Had Orgasms in Her Left Foot WWE and UFC will combine to form $21.4bn sports entertainment company Visit Mobility Wall for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout for 20% off** The Best Deadlift Variation You're NOT Doing!! (2 of 3) | MIND PUMP How To Sumo Deadlift (The RIGHT Way) | Jordan Syatt The Only Way You Should Be Doing Bulgarian Split Squats! (BUTT GROWTH) What is the First Step to Better Mobility? MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Why you should almost NEVER take Advil, Aleve, or Aspirin (NSAIDS) before or after exercise Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jason Phillips (@nci_ceo_jason) Instagram Dr. Becky Kennedy | Parenting (@drbeckyatgoodinside) Instagram Jordan Omogbehin (@thegiantomos) Instagram Dr. Nicole LePera (@the.holistic.psychologist) Instagram Kyle Pullin (@kilepullin) Instagram

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The most important and probably valuable investment you can ever make in your fitness. By far, nothing comes close is hiring a good coach or a good trainer. Nothing comes close to the impact they can have on your long-term success. The reason why I'm bringing this up is we have all this talk around medications that seem to have some efficacious results. They're quite expensive, thousands of dollars a month. People are jumping on board to the point where they're running out.

And it's like, look, a good coach or trainer is probably gonna be less expensive, gonna be way more effective. So if you're gonna spend some money on anything to help you lose weight or get in better shape, find a good coach, nothing comes close. I feel like I want to respond with the same loudness to the people in the back. It's so crazy how willing people are to spend a thousand or fifteen hundred dollars a month.

That's how some of these medications cost. Because studies show that you can lose like five percent or ten percent weight. And people are like, they're like, oh my God, I wanna buy this. I'll spend so much money to do this. And it's like, man, if you hired a good coach, first off, it would probably cost you less, but even if it costs the same amount. It's an investment.

It's that initial bit that people are just afraid to commit to. Nothing will be more effective. Nothing, there's no combination of supplements or drugs or anything that'll come close to what a good coach or trainer can do for you. This is why I asked the other day when we were talking about ozampic and stuff like that and said, you know, what percentage would you put on, you know, if we had like a pie chart of, you know,

food, exercise, sleep, you know, supplements, where does like these, where do these drugs fall in or, you know, and you said maybe 10%, like 5% would be like supplements. This is maybe 10% at best. A little bit more. Yeah. And so the idea that people are willing to spend that much money on something like that that is such a small percentage of a difference as far as the grand scheme of things is what will actually move the needle. But I'm not surprised. I mean, that's why the supplement industry is the supplement. But I'm not surprised.

I mean, that's why the supplement industry is, the supplement industry is massive and it's even less effective and people still spend thousands and thousands of dollars annually on pills and powders and hopes that it's gonna get us in shape. It's the promise of success without... The word worth up to work,. Yeah, minus the work. Yeah, and First off, I understand that by the way, I get that's very alluring, but let's just rephrase this for example because

Losing so I everybody buys a lottery ticket. That's it. So losing 30 pounds And then keeping it off forever or improving your fitness and health and maintaining it forever That requires you to change how you live. It's not, I mean, I'm not saying that lightly, literally, because the way you're living now is the reason why, let's say, your 30, 40, 50 pounds overweight or why your health is where you want it to be.

So it means you have to live differently forever in order to maintain that. So let me rephrase that. Imagine if I was selling a drug that said, hey, you got a bad marriage, take this pill, fix your marriage. Everybody would be like, get out of here. Like that's not gonna, that's so stupid.

That's not gonna work. That's how silly it is when you hear the same thing when it comes to weight loss or improving your health and fitness, taking a pill or taking a drug. Less is for agrar. Yeah. I don't wanna put that out there. Yeah, so, I mean, that's the point that I'm trying to make.

And I used to have this conversation with potential clients all the time. So look at the price tag of hiring a trainer. Let's say you hire like a really good trainer, really good trainer. We'll go nationwide. I know it's more expensive in some areas, less expensive in other areas. You know, you'll probably cost you, I don't know, 70, 80 bucks an hour on average. Some places, more, some places a little less. don't know, 70, 80 bucks an hour on average, some places, much more, some places, little less. But let's just say like 80 bucks an hour.

And let's say you work out with a coach or a trainer twice a week. So you're going to do eight sessions a month. So you know, you're hundreds of dollars a month. You're going to be spending, you know, 700 bucks a month or, you know, 600 bucks a month or something like that. Maybe even a thousand bucks a month, let's say. These drugs cost that much, and they won't do what a good coach or trainer can do for you.

They're not gonna have the permanent lifelong success. They're not gonna come along with a list of, we don't know side effects. Like, I'm not, by the way, saying anything, like, I know some of these new peptides that are coming out seem to show real promise, especially in comparison to some of the other stuff that's out there. I'm not anti, none of us are anti-medicine.

I think it's got some value. But if you're thinking that this is going to solve your issues forever, it's not. You have to learn how to live differently. And a good coach understands that and knows how to get you there. And yes, it takes time. Yes, it takes work. But man, the transformation at the end, the least of which, the least important of which

is the physical transformation. It's the other transformations, which for someone who's never gone through it, it's hard to explain. But you really will become a different person. You'll learn how to do this forever. It's not going to become a stressful thing. At the end of it, you'll be like,

man, I love this, this is great. I enjoy taking care of myself. I know how to take care of myself. I have this great relationship with food, exercises, a part of my life, and then the downstream effects. And doing that on your own, without a good coach or guide.

Oh man, that's gonna be, it's almost impossible. These are skills that you're going to want to hire somebody who knows how to walk you through that. You're just going to want to do that. There's nothing that compares, nothing comes close. And so I wish more people knew that, you know. I think the level of coaches and trainers have gotten significantly better. That's so true. You know, when we, there was a massive gap. I felt like when we started 20 plus years ago, as far as like your, how, how educated experience coaches and transfer, I think it's become such a, a big industry now and it's so popular that it's become competitive.

And in order to be a good coach and trainer, like you've, you had to have gone through courses and certifications and experience. And so, you know, in the past, I used to, I remember when I first started training and clients would like move somewhere else and they'd be in search of another really good trainer. I'd be like, I cannot find another really good trainer. I don't feel like it's that way anymore.

I feel like every, probably, gym or every town has got quite a few really educated training, just because information, the way it flows now, that you can get that anywhere on the internet now. So finding somebody who is a good coach and trainer is a lot easier than what it used to be. Yeah, you know, it's funny. So obviously, you know, being a health and fitness podcast, we've been approached by countless trainer and coach courses, right? Because it makes sense. Like, oh, you guys are real popular. A lot of trainers and coaches listen to our Like, oh, you guys are real popular. A lot of trainers and coaches listen to our podcast.

So if you guys could just talk about our certification, it would be great. And we turn, you know, 99% of them down, not because they don't present good information. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a, you know, nationally recognized certification that doesn't present good information. They all have good information.

The problem was none of them were teaching trainers and coaches how to actually train and coach people successfully. They gave them the building blocks. Here's macros, there's calories, there's fats, there's proteins, carbs. Here's the exercises how to do them properly. It's the education, not the application.

Yeah, like, but how you coach someone, how you walk them through, you know, being more than just a walking, talking, Google, right? Like, here's the challenges that they have. They're not fitness fanatics. This is how you communicate with them. Here's what, here's how you can help them move along this process.

None of them did that when we were approached by NCI. They were one of the first ones that we actually saw do that. Like, when I went through, and when we went through their stuff, and then we met with Jason Phillips, they were small back then we met with Jason Phillips and that was the first thing he said he goes look information is great applications everything and we were like okay you're speaking our language. I mean for me it was like the most frustrating part was to to be in the same gym with some of these trainers that were in a caliber way beyond me. Like they're just fully educated, a great example of a coach, but they had terrible business practice,

business acumen. They just didn't know how to run their own finance and market themselves and put themselves out to inevitably where they couldn't sustain a business for themselves to keep doing it. They had to move on to a different industry and a different career path because it's like that resource really wasn't available in order to teach people that are like, you know, that highly educated, but also are like that passionate about it, but don't have, you

know, the business side of it really figured out. Don't you guys feel like NCIs just a small example of like how education is going to be disrupted in the future? Yeah, because like when you think about somebody who gets a business degree, you know, and you know how to write a business plan and you understand How to you know balance and excel sheet and stuff like that. It's like oh, this is all great But that's not what makes a great entrepreneur most I'll take an entrepreneur who's failed six times than the master's degree in business fresh out of school. Is the experience in the application? What you're talking about right now is that the application part is so important.

That doesn't mean that the education isn't there. It's just that we've taught education a certain way for so long that here, like, here are the exes of nose, but I feel like NCI did such a good job of bridging that gap. I mean, you were big before we met NCI, Justin, you were a huge fan of precision nutrition, which is incredible, right? They got incredible information, but that was the example that I remember, you know, Jason uses, like, man, they're incredible. The information they have is fire, just like, sell your point about all these national

certifications. But one of the things that left almost all of my trainers like lost was, okay, now how do I take all this great information that I have about training the body and nutrition? And how do I now apply that to make money and be successful because it results out of my clients. Well, that's a big part of the business is to be able to run a business. It's great that you understand physiology and nutrition like the back of your hand, but if you don't understand how to create a business, you're only going to go so far.

Yeah, in fact, I'm in the process of hiring a trainer for my dad. And so you guys know I work out. There's a gym locally that I work out at. And I watch the trainers training clients, mainly because it's my space. So I see what they're doing, whatever. And there's one guy that kind of stood out. And first of all, all the trainers there

understand exercise, form, and technique. And I think that that's like the minimum, like if you don't understand exercise technique, you guys stuff like that's like the bare minimum. But what I was looking for was how they apply it when they train different people, do they adjust the intensity properly, when the client asks them a question

or poses a challenge, how does a trainer explain something, how are they able to communicate something, are they able to guide this person from where they're at, meeting them where they're at to where they wanna go, What does that look like? So I've been paying attention, paying, I found a guy and I approached him and I'm going to end up hiring him because I've seen him hire young people, old people, people can't move well.

And I can see him adjust according to the person, how to apply the training, how to work with him. That's what you want to think about when you hire a coach or trainer. Is this person, can they not just do the no exercise? Okay, that's like the bare minimum. Like you better know exercise if you're a trainer. Is this person, can they not just do the no exercise? Okay, that's like the bare minimum. Like you better know exercise if you're a trainer. That's like, you know, it's like if you're an author, do you know how to read? Great, you're like, I'll think, no, that's the bare minimum.

What you want is, can I see myself working with this person and being guided through the most challenging times I'm going to have with my diet and exercise, not right now when I'm motivated and hiring them, because that's easy. Oh, I'm so motivated. Let me hire you. Yay, I'm going to do whatever you tell me. Great. That's not going to last. Can I see this person being somebody that I want to work with when I don't want to do what they're telling me? How are they going to approach that? Are they going to hammer me? How am I going to respond to that? Or are they going

to understand and help coach me? Are they going to work with me when I'm in good moods, bad moods, motivated, unmotivated? Am I gonna wanna show up and see this person when I don't feel like working out, not because I wanna work out, but because I don't mind seeing this person. That's a big one too. That's what you wanna look for. Am I gonna find that guide that's going to coach me along?

You know what it's like? It's like movies with martial arts masters. You ever watch these fictional movies? And they got the martial arts master. And it's like, what they end up showing is that the martial arts master and it's like what they end up Showing is that the martial arts master is more like a life master and it teaches the disciple how to become this Incredible martial artist and it's less about like the special technique that they teach them and more about these life lessons I know I'm sounding very philosophical and as a terror going a little while

Yagi That's very true. I can't help but think about that 100% right? That's literally what a great coach, what a great coach or trainer will do for you. And the cost literally is, I mean, you could spend as little as a couple hundred bucks a month and have them train you, you know, once every other week or once a week

or you could see them three days a week and spend more, but dollar for dollar, there's nothing that I can think, there's not even our programs come close to working with a good coach or trainer. There's nothing on a dollar for dollar basis that you can invest in that'll even come within the same universe as to what a good coach or trainer will do for you

if you're serious about doing this and achieving this and accomplishing it forever. If that's your goal and you got money to spend and you want to invest, like I'm serious about this, don't waste your money on anything else. Higher self-reliate a good coach or trainer. They'll do more free than almost anything else. Okay. So speaking of martial artists and like, let's go in this direction. I had some great fun facts that I found out over the weekend, I was like reading this article and there's this article about our beloved movie predator, right, with all of our action heroes, all our everybody.

I'm gonna wait you right now. Do you know, do you know who was originally cast as the predator monster? Like what real person? You don't know this? Yes. Hold on a second. Let's go blow your mind.

Hold on a second. I don't. Dude. you don't know this yes hold on a second. It's gonna blow your mind. Pull out second. I Don't dude. I don't John Claude Van Dam. Oh Really John Claude Van Dam really had no idea. Yeah, so who eventually became the predator? Um, I forget his name. I'm so what was the big guy? So why were they gonna even use him? What was it like was're gonna have like, they have to do martial arts? So this is a four blood sport.

So he didn't, he wasn't really like a huge star at the time. Predator came out before blood sport? Yeah. Blood sport was like six months after the movie. So the only reason because it like, this whole thing, how it all transpired was pretty funny story actually. Cause I guess they cast him initially

because the predator monster itself was gonna be like smaller, more shifty, and more ninja-like. And so he kinda like fit that mold a little bit better. Oh yeah. And but it, and I'll show you, there's a picture of him. There's a picture of him actually in the suit that they were gonna have him use.

And so basically what happened was like, it was a rubber suit and this rubber suit and now they're in Mexico and it's like, you know, 90 something percent humidity, he's wearing this rubber suit, he kept passing out on shoot because he was just like so hot. And like, and the thing is,

the thing was so restrictive for movement. So he was all pissed off and being all snippy with the director because it's like, I can't move and do my, you know, splits and like cool shit. And was like complaining about the, the costing being so restrictive and trying to get them to change it. It's Kevin Peter Hall, that's the guy who became,

so he's a real tall guy. That's who I actually became predator. And so basically, turns out the director was like, given him like an ultimatum, he's so basically turns out the director was like giving him like an ultimatum. He's like, this happened a few times. He kept passing out and he's like, if you pass out one more time, you're fired. Like, like, you can help the fact that it's 90% you may say. It's like, the rubber suit is trying to pass out.

Yeah, well, you know, like, they give him the ax and basically, so it was like he turned down the thing. It was like he was actually doing it and then just couldn't. Yeah, apparently he had a bad attitude on set, but who wouldn't, like, they're fucking, well, first of all, okay, it's gotta be the most

macho, like, staff ever, or actors ever in one movie. Yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah, Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura, Carl Weathers. Carl Weathers. I can't remember the names. These are all like just massive bodybuilder dudes and who else?

Just like, so the predator, yeah. So he was a big guy and that's, I don't think that was the actor of the honest Doug that you're supposed to. Yeah, he was from the second one. I'm pretty sure. I looked it up for the original, that yours was. Yeah, it was from the second one. I'm pretty sure. I looked it up for the original, that was him. No, that was him.

1987? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, anyway, he's huge too, so. Yeah. No, he was buff. He was just like leaner. He's tall.

Like a tall guy. Yeah, that's better than, then, maybe, well, see, John's have an integral, came problem. What if he was doing it back then too, and passed on? Oh, he did? Oh, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know if it was later though. I just thought that was a trip. I'm like, who would have thought

another action hero was in? Did any actor in the 80s that got famous not have a cocaine problem? I mean, come on, every stand-up could be in. That's a short list. Yeah, 80s and 90s, you got a lot of money in your famous in Hollywood. And you didn't even go kick an A-lister that wasn't like a cocaine.

Yeah, I was like, I, you got a lot of money and you famous in Hollywood. Like, and you didn't get a list. Let's kick an A-list, or that wasn't like a cookhead. Yeah, yeah. I just want Arnold. Arnold wasn't a cookhead. Okay.

He was having, he was having, he was having, he was having, he just a cow. He doesn't cow. He had a whole host of other things. He's been his housekeeper, that's why. Yeah. And having, hey, how funny is, it's, okay, look, I love Arnold. But, you know, here's that's why. Yeah, and having to, hey, how funny is, it's okay, look, I love Arnold, but here's what's funny.

He has an illegitimate, right child with his housekeeper. I don't know if you guys seen pictures of all those kids. Yeah, the one that's the illegitimate kid. The one that's with that housekeeper. Yeah, yeah. Like he could never deny it. This kid looks identical. Yeah, no, no, and he wants to die.

And have you seen pictures of him? He's bodybuilding. Yeah, no, he's totally into it. He can tell you wants to be his dad. He looks like him He moves like him. He poses like him It's pretty funny. Be interesting to see what his like what his personal life is. He looks for a relationship Yeah, I know from what I see on social media He looks like he's got his head screwed on right like he doesn't look like he's all fucked up That would be tough. That would be tough shoes to fill to look like him to also want to be into bodybuilding and do that

Like that's a lot to put yourself out when you think so. Yeah, but you know what that might add is It would be tough shoes to fill, to look like him, to also want to be in the bodybuilding and do that. That's a lot to put yourself out. Wouldn't you think so? Yeah, but you know what that might add? That might drive him to though. Maybe. Right, maybe. Yeah, it's all about the kid, right?

How the kid receives that or whatever. You know whose story I watched on the flight home. I watched that new, I don't know what it's called, but it's the Whitney Houston story. So I've seen a documentary on her before, but this wasn't a documentary as more of a movie. And they just told more parts about her life I didn't realize. And then afterwards, I always, you know, any time I watch a story

about a real person, I get on Google, like, you know, oh yeah, what happened to the kids? And it's not, I didn't realize that her daughter died the same way that she did. Oh, that's true. Yeah, basically doing drugs and drowning in the bathtub she did. Oh, that's true. Yeah, basically doing drugs and drown in the bathtub. Oh my God, that's terrible. Yeah, did you know that?

I didn't know that until after the movie. Oh, that's that. Yeah, I was so curious about her only daughter. And her only daughter basically died 20 something years old on a drug overdose drowning. It's just like she did. Man, when she got with Bobby Brown, that was like... So, that was a spiral of...

Okay, so you know what's interesting about that? So, okay, that's exactly what I said. And I thought, but that was what was interesting about the way they told this story was, most people think that Bobby Brown got her into all the drug influence. She was already doing all kinds of drugs before. Yeah, so...

I mean, obviously he wasn't good for her either. And he's got like seven kids. Yeah. So not that. I mean, obviously he wasn't good for her either. And he's got like seven kids. Yeah. So, but I just have famous. I don't know if you guys remember. He dropped his coke. Yeah. Yeah. He was dancing. And then he dropped his little eight ball. What? You've never seen that. And he goes. Oh, this is the most famous. He dropped drugs on the literally dropped a bag of cocaine. and it is very obvious it's cocaine, and he picks it up, and he's on, it's on Soul Train. It's Bobby Brown's Soul Train, Coke Back, it'll fuck you, it'll pop up.

Soul Train? Is this Soul Train? Or is it in your heart? Oh, it was our city hall, he's performing. He's on the show, performing, I remember it. You know, I hated Soul Train, I hated it, you know why? Well, this is right after cartoons. Yes, you knew cartoons were over.

Saturday morning cartoons is super Soul Train. Oh. Yeah. You knew cartoons were over. Saturday morning cartoons and the scoop is so free. We're like, oh, don't let me hang you. We're done. Yeah, yeah. I didn't mind it, though. Yeah, I think I found it here. Oh, you can't miss it. Let me get it.

Yeah, I got it. It flies out of it. And he mid song scoops it up, but you can totally tell it's a bag. How do you play that off? He did. He put it off for you. He just, hey, he kind of dances way over. He's holding up.

Yeah, he's dancing like that while he flies out. Like the panic going on in his mind. Yeah, like. Oh, shit. Yeah. I mean, that though, no, it wasn't bad. He was like, it was part of his dance move. Yeah, but I mean, that camera angle,

like that's obviously we're looking at it from a far TV and dunks. I'm trying to see a white guy. You see, it's a white twisted up bag. I mean, it's obviously. Speaking of dancing, you brought up Bloodsport. Yeah. My favorite dancing of all time in any movie, any movie.

Remember the scene in Bloodsport when John Club Van Dam is taken to the bar and he's got drunk. Like fight dancing. He does this weird dance. Like, this is weird dance. Yeah, yeah, it was all awkward. And he like, who dances like that, dude? Did you see the video?

Yeah, yeah, dude. Why is he dancing like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see the video? This was right when you got back on Instagram that I tagged you on that said there was a video of you dancing. It was the guy where he did all his moves

where workout moves, try to be excited. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just press. Yeah. Can't say. I can see, Sal. I told you guys I learned how to dance. I can't dance dancing. You plant your feet in one place.

You just have to move your hand a little bit. You don't really have to do. You don't do anything else. Swivel the hips a little bit. In Predator, you ever watched the scenes where Jesse Ventura and Arnold are digging at each other and talking shit Have you ever seen those? No, oh, it's so great, bro Oh, cuz they work out together and Jesse's like, you know talking about how he lifts more He's got bigger arms and Arnold's

Arnold's a great shit talker, dude. I'm sure oh the best Yeah, I'm sure Ventura absolutely when it one of the absolute greatest Yeah, crazy. Sure. I have some for you guys. That's the chat GBT related. Did you see the news on the kid that killed himself because chat GBT told him to? No, it did. I did. Yes, because of climate.

Crazy, huh? I mean, you know, Doug, is that verified? I thought that was like a crazy like spoof article or something because it's so out there. I don't think so. I mean, I didn't do like crazy. You did maybe Andrew can fact check me or Doug. Cause it's like, I like, that's something that you,

like he prompted it something obviously, obviously, obviously. Obviously he's looking for an excuse. Right. Like he prompted it like, you know, I can't remember what the prompt was, but it was, yeah, he's obviously a poor kid who's disturbed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, if you let yourself, according to this is a married father. He kills himself after talking to AI chatbot for six weeks about his climate change fear. Six weeks. Oh man. So it is true.

Wow, okay. That's the wild, right? That's terrible. Is that crazy or what? Speaking of chat. Just a little alarming. Speaking of chat, GBT, that doesn't alarm me because,

it's sad, that's very, very sad. But here's what alarms me. Did you guys see the letter that was written by researchers and signed by some of the smartest people in the world who are calling for AI experiments to be shut down? I thought Elon wasn't part of that. An open letter signed by Artificial Intelligence

researchers, directors of institutes, and CEOs of Social Media Sites, including Elon Musk. Yeah, I heard that. Has asked for all AI experiments to be paused immediately, given the profound risk to society and humanity. If an advanced AI was created without proper management and planning. So these are some of the smartest people in the world.

I swear to God, it feels like a movie. We're the scientists like, hey everybody, we should, and you're watching a movie like, why don't you listen to that guy right there saying it's like a few people like, I don't need a good idea. We should do it in it. We should open the portal.

Now we're gonna put the portal. So much money. Dude, that's crazy. When these people who are literally profiting from potentially this particular technology are saying stop it immediately we need to see what do they see because they're the ones like to part of the behind the scenes of the engineering side I'm sure like a lot yeah that's kind of weird aren't even coming down it is a little weird that like Elon is on that one I mean he put it out there to be used, or like for free, right? So they made it open like that.

And he's part of the creative, the people, early people that created it. I wonder what he sees right now that makes him all sudden want to reverse. Well, what they've been saying is that there's a, right now there's an AI arms race that's happening among private companies. So they are so much money is being

invested. And one thing that Silicon Valley does very well, or the tech space in general does very well, is that when there's a new potential technology or platform, they jump on it and it advances dramatically quickly. They get almost unlimited money. They have crazy amounts of talent, and they're very, very ultra competitive. And it becomes, who can do this better and faster, which is good until we run into something like this, where we don't necessarily know what we're creating. And that's the fear. The fear is, they must have seen something. Well, I think that they're seeing it. They're seeing seeing we don't necessarily know

what we're creating and what this could potentially do. We've never had anything smarter than us on Earth ever. So what does that look like? It's not that they think for sure it's going to do something bad. It's the potential force it to like imagine living on a planet. Imagine this. And like who's that? What would you guys say are the second smartest creatures on earth? Dolphins? Chimpanzees? Wales? You could probably Google that.

Yeah. You could probably ask Chad Gbt, they do. Yeah. So we are. Me, but we will be first within three weeks. Yeah. So let's just say for argument, say that it's chimps. Okay, chimps.

Dolphins. Dolphins. Okay. Dolphins are the second smartest. Okay. Imagine if we are dolphins and now Chad Gbt's humans like dolphins can't do you think? They're hell of smart, but they're like dumb compared to us Imagine if we were dolphins and now we have AI walking around looking at us like we're dolphins. Yeah, you know, I'm saying We're gonna get ridden in some amusement park

That's what happens. We're second in we're gonna be jumping through. We're gonna put you in amusement park. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just at the will of these robots. Yeah. Hey, did you hear about that study with that stat? That I think I brought up on the show. I thought it was this researcher was trying to communicate

with dolphins and they would give it like LSD to try to see if they could see. Anyway, try to stop. What? She got caught jerking see it. Anyway, just off. What? She got caught jerking it off. Yeah, they had to stop the research because she was having sex with Dolphin. What?

Yeah, bro. Okay, so is she taking LSD, dude? Here's the thing. It's just a Dolphin. Dolphin is smart. It learned that it would basically like tell her, tell her, like, and communicate with her after he was feeling better. Oh, so that's, so she trained her to do that basically. Yeah, so she was, wow.

That's what she was like, whoa. I gotta do a correction though. Number one is a ring of tang. Okay. And number two is the dolphin threes chimpanzee. I mean, I think, I mean, sure. I mean, I don't know how they determine this. Yeah, yeah, how would you determine that?

They talked him for a while. Yeah. Octopus are so really smart too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you watch that documentary? That was a very interesting one. No, I don't watch it. Oh, you didn't watch that?

No. Yeah, that was actually a pretty good little documentary. It's the one where he makes friends with it or whatever. Yeah, I mean, it was really good until the end where he gets obsessed, I think, always. So I mean, I think it's like, oh, this was interesting. I mean, but of course, you need somebody who's obsessed to do that much consistent research. So, so let me ask you guys a question. So, so I was thinking about this after I read this, this letter that these really smart

people that we should probably believe who know more about this and all of us who say we should halt this. I was thinking about this a little bit over the weekend, and I thought, okay, what creature, what animal on earth basically figured this out and just hitched a ride on humans? And it's like, all right, we're just going to become their best friend now. Back to you. Yeah, no. What? What are you at?

Wait, what animal on earth? Okay. Basically figured out, these are you at? Wait, how are you? What animal on earth? Okay. Basically figured out, these are the smartest freaking creatures. We should just be cool with them because they'll just take care of us. Dogs. Dogs.

Yeah. So what if that's like, what if like with AI? That's where you became us. I went too far. Yeah, yeah. I'll jump. What if like AI takes over?

And we're like trying to resist. We're trying to fight back. But then as a segment of humans, we're like fuck, just we're trying to fight back within the segment of humans are like fuck is be pets Yeah, I'm gonna be cool with these. Yeah, that's it very interesting. They just feed me. Yeah, screw you guys I mean like now we're just gonna be their pets, you know Make peace with that damn you know what I saw speaking of all this like weird technology and stuff Have you guys ever heard of these? weird technology and stuff. Have you guys ever heard of these things called green trees? I wrote it down. What is it? I've heard of green trees before. Liquid, no, liquid green trees. Oh, no, I've never heard of liquid green trees.

Yeah, if you guys have heard of these, I'll do pull up an image of this stuff. This is really interesting. And I'm curious to what your thoughts on it. It's a bit brilliant. I think as far as like what the concept, but it emits CO2 just like a real tree does, but it's a fake liquid tree for cities. Wait, it emits oxygen. Yeah, and absorbs it. Oh, yeah, excuse me, I'm like, it's something a car.

Yeah, no. Yeah. It absorbs everybody, it absorbs the oxygen. Look at that, too. And it emits oxygen. It does what it puts in. It's just warm it up in the opposite.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we have cars for that out of the cell. Yeah. Well, so it's a fake, it's an artificial tree. Okay, it's like a blue or a tree. It looks like a green liquid and absorbs the CO2. As much as, I think a tree that is like 30 years old, so like a matured, as much of a matured tree absorbs and admits,

it does that little liquid thing right there. And then it spits out oxygen? Yes. What is it made with? Back to your bacteria. And then it spits out oxygen. Yes. What is it made with? Back to your bacteria. It's a microalgae. Ah, there you go. See, it's got something there.

It's got a plant in there. So it's got algae. Okay. So it's not purely artificial. Yeah, but I mean, interesting though, no? Yeah. That is fascinating. Right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now there's actually controversy about it, but I don't know. Just because it's not a real tree. It's discriminating. I mean, it's just a real tree. The discriminating. I mean, just a plant tree. It's like, it's the tree association. It's kind of silly.

My thought is what goes into making these things, you know. How much carbon is produced as you create these boxes with this goo in it? You're at a net negative for sure. Maybe, huh. I want to read more about that, that's weird. I mean, I mean, it's cool, but I don't know about you, but I don't want to necessarily drive down the road

and see that bunch of green. Yeah, just green. Green. And I think that's part of the negative, that tree's looking nicer. Right, but then I think the idea of this is for like cities, like downtown San Jose, it's not like downtown San Jose has a beautiful apple tree.

In the middle of it. You know, so it's got, right now it's a bus stop and some bum. So it's, it would take, that's a politically correct term. I don't know how it says that to tell you. I'll give a shit. I can't say but. Oh, boom.

That's what it is right now. And so I wouldn't mind seeing that instead, right? Yeah. Interesting, right? That's cool. I mean, innovation is ultimately what's gonna solve, I mean, that's how we've ever solved any problems, innovation.? That's cool. I mean innovation is ultimately what's gonna solve I mean, that's how we've ever solved any problems innovation not by going backwards. Yeah, so hey speaking of Cool stuff my my two-year-old man this kid cracks me up so so Jessica does a really good job

I got some kids story free too. Yeah. Oh, yeah cool. Cool. So we'll talk about our kids So he she does a really good job of getting him to understand feelings, how to learn, how to regulate his own emotions. And so, the old school way of dealing with a kid with a tantrum is you put them in time out, you ignore them, whatever. She's like, and we've been taking this course, I brought it up already, this woman, Dr. Becky, she's got this great page on Instagram.

She talks about how you teach a child to regulate. It's definitely longer, it definitely takes more work, but they become more emotionally intelligent at a younger age. I saw this firsthand the other day. One thing she advises is, you can't be perfect. Your kids throwing a tantrum, throwing a fit. At some point, you get dysregulated. You need to take a break yourself, because you can't just be perfect. That's what happened. He was doing this thing and Jessica had been dealing with him throughout the day. And she's like, I need to take a break. I, you know, mommy needs to go take a break.

So I took over, she went into the bedroom or whatever. So she's in there totally upset. And he finally calms down and he goes, I wanna go see mama. So it's all right, buddy, so we go in there and she's in there and she's definitely upset, right? And he goes in there, he goes, remember, he's two years old.

He goes, mama, I'm sorry, I, I'm so sorry, I stressed you out. He goes, let me, let me give you a back massage. Oh, gives you a back massage. He goes, let me rev your toes. Oh my god. His vocabulary already is crazy. I'm like, what? This kid is getting it. Like, yeah, totally confirms like, like, all the hard work, you know, that it's totally working back with stuff. Well, either he's learning emotional intelligence or he's really figuring, oh, how the kids are getting daddy, dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Or maybe he watches Dad, Dad does the same thing. You know what I'm saying? Dad comes home, mom's really stressed out. Honey, let me rub your bag. Well, obviously he saw it. But to know that they stressed and to know to give her a hug. Oh, to say that. Yeah, I know, he's going to do that. I mean, I he saw it, but to know the state stressed and to know to give her the end of saying that.

Yeah, I know. He's going to do that. I mean, I was just like, yeah, it's about cabbulars and say I have like an opposite story. So that's I think that it was, uh, you were kind of telling me earlier. I only heard this. So we're, we went to Texas for a wedding, uh, this past week, right? So we went to this like park, um, where there were like port of potty's where we had to

go to the bathroom. And at one point, my son had to go to the bathroom. And he just got a potty trip. Yeah, he's been potty trained where we had to go the bathroom. And at one point my son had to go the bathroom. He just got potty trained. Yeah, he's been potty trained for a while. Actually, he's actually really good. He'll tell me when he's got to go and everything like that. We haven't had any accidents or anything. So he's been great for a long time now.

But what this story for me was, it was actually more about myself. It really highlighted like being an older father and just being calm and patient through like just crazy shit that happens when you have a kid, you know what I'm saying? Where I like in the moment I totally like handled it and I thought man afterwards, God if I was like 25 year old me that would have been like a disaster and then I wonder how he would have reacted to my reaction right. So what happens is we go

tells me tell me at one point we're all playing, stuff. He's like, day, day or the bathroom, okay, let's go. I walk him up to the porta-potty. And, you know, porta-potty's are disgusting and some of that. I'm like, this will be interesting. This is our first porta-potty. Yeah, I haven't had to be in a porta-potty with him. Yeah, I didn't really think much of it. I'm like, I'll figure it out when I get in there and I get in there and I'm like, oh, you know what I'm gonna do is I'm stand him up, lift it up and then he can shoot down in the thing, right? Cause he's too short for the- Sounds logical. Yeah, right?

Yeah, exactly. So I, I, I stand him up right there. Well, what I wasn't ready for was as soon as I dropped his pants, he was ready to go. So I dropped his pants, and he just starts pissing everywhere. And my poor guy like, he sees he's missing a toilet. And so he freaks out, and instead of like him grabbing and aiming it down, he just puts his hand over it. Totally, totally, because I could see, I could see that on his face, you know,

I could see that he was scared that he was missing. I could just see it on his face, and he was trying to stop it from doing that. And the only way he could do is he just covered his hand over the stream, which like I said, shot over me when all down. I mean, we were just, I mean, I'm just watching and it was a long test.

Yeah, I mean, we just soaked every bit of everything down and I just let them finish. That's all right, but I know we got more pans for you. It's gonna be fine. Wow. Great job. Yeah, I said that I opened up the port of life. Hey Katrina, give me some clothes.

Wow, that's so strong. Good job. Because your instinct would be maybe not to get mad, but to like, oh yeah, freak out, and then probably scare him. You're right. Yeah, we're in a porta-party new experience for him. You're right. And I actually didn't like, it was like,

I totally thought that that was my natural instinct. Was it be chill? You know, it's like the accidents happen. He's a kid. The other day we can change clothes. We can go down. Wow, what a great, what a great, good job. And it was after the fact that I went,

oh wow, you know, it's crazy. It's like, for sure if I was younger, I would have like, oh, you know, big deal. Maybe even yelled at him, you know what I'm saying? Who knows what I would have done? Or just, just, you know, I mean, you could even do nothing necessarily like yelling at him, but just your energy.

Scarim. Yeah, would make him then be afraid to pee in a porta potty. Or be afraid to have an accident for him. And I could, and I saw it when he was, when it started happening and I could see it in his eyes like he knew he was making a mistake and his just natural reaction was to put his hand in Front of it so it wouldn't go all over the place and all over me anymore and instead it just started going all down him

And it's all right. It's okay. Wow It's like oh shit. Wow, good job. Oh, dude. I was actually supposed to go meet up with Taylor, who lives in Austin. He hit me up. He knew I was there. I said, hey, yeah, I'll swing by. I'm at the park with all the families of that.

And then I, he probably thinks I'm lying to him. Because I, you know, I was, I, my kid beat on me. Yeah, well, I go, I go, well, you know, we typically pack a change of clothes for him, but not for dad. So we don't really, so you're just the rest of the party had Piany. Well, we ended up leaving pretty soon after that.

And it wasn't that he didn't get me as bad as he got himself, you know, but it was, and I was like, whatever, you know, so it was, uh, and I used some wipes to clean him up. And me, that's so cute though. It was, it was quite the first pot of pot of experience. Bro, I'm memorable that way, right? I'm literally learning right now. I'm literally learning right now the most important skill that you can create.

And you have to build the skill. That's why I think you said what you said is like you're older, so it's like you might not have had the skill when you were younger. But they said literally that the most important skill you can have as a parent is to be able to regulate. It's to be able to, because, and then the example that this woman gives, and I'm learning so much, it's really good, she does good examples.

The example she gives is you're on a plane and you hear the pilot come on over the intercom. The energy, not just what the pilot says, but the energy. How he says it. Yeah, so if it's like bumpy, and the pilot comes on, he's like, oh, yeah, okay, everybody, okay, we're good, we're gonna be, like everyone's gonna be like freaking out. Yeah, so if it's like bumpy, and the pilot comes on, and he's like, yeah, okay, everybody, okay, we're good. We're gonna be, like everyone's gonna be like freaking out. But if he comes on, he's like, hey, everybody,

it's just regular turbulence, we're gonna be told, you're like, okay, you know, they're in control. So the kid watches, or even just senses the energy that dad and mom have. And then that's what they'll learn from. That's how they learn how to regulate. So here's something that'll trip you out of.

But boy, that's a skill, dude, because, you know, literally, you were getting peed on, you had a they learn how to regulate. So here's something that'll trip you out of. But boy, that's a skill, dude, because, you know, literally, you were getting peed on. Yeah, a wedding. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what's, you know what's, what I thought was really wild. And this all kind of like unfold afterwards.

It's not like I had this like crazy moment where I was like, oh, this is the right thing to do. Like I reacted the way I've been training myself as a father react. And then afterwards, like instantly afterwards, what I started thinking about, I actually flash back to childhood memories of my mom reacting kind of crazy

to accidents and things like that to me. I got memories that have been buried for most of my life, surfaced of myself. And I went, oh shit, how crazy is that? Which is what made me tell a story that way of like, oh wow, you know, it's like, I didn't think it was that big of a deal, how I reacted, how I'd normally reacted to my son.

I'm very calm and cool with him and so that. But then I realized like, oh shit, I, my mom reacted very different to same type of crisis situations with me and it's forever fucking embedded in me. Like, and it's a traumatic experience for me. Like I remember it and it was like a bad memory. Yeah.

And I hadn't thought about it in a really long time until after the fact that all played out. Right, right, right. Wow. What a great job, bro. Wow, huh? I'm glad you shared that. Yeah, funny, right?

So I got some science news for you guys. This is something I've thought about in the past. I know Justin, you and I have commented on this before in the podcast. Just something that just doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to figure it out. Like, doesn't make any sense. Like, foot fetishes just doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to figure it out. Like, doesn't make any sense. Like, foot fetishes. Don't make any damn sense.

Yeah. Feet are gross. Yeah. Why are people all into feet? There's no idea. Anyway, they have a theory as to why I was reading this article. I have a theory on that stuff. They have an art, really?

I do. Let me hear a theory of course. So my theory is like, I mean, whenever you have like it through like your formative years of like teenage like puberty and like finding out about masturbation, all that, if you have anything around connected in those moments, like for example, I have like the first time a girl ever touched me physically like that, I was deathly sick. And so still to this day, I could be like dying sick and I'm in the mood right now.

Yeah, I am in the mood right now. It's so funny. It's such a weird combination to see you too because you're in a bad horny mood. You're mad and you're horny. You just blown your nose and running. But I mean, I think that I think that that's the extra way for me.

So I, I think you're in the mood, horny. Yeah, I think that I do I think that extra away from me. So I I know, bro. You know, you're really horny. Yeah, I'm not so. So I'm not making a I'm angry anymore. So when I think of someone who maybe has like a foot of fetish, I think of the the kid who maybe is, you know, teenage years and,

you know, the girls sitting at maybe you're at the cafeteria and she takes her shoe off and she starts playing footages with your shit. And that's like your first like so what you're talking about That that was like a thing in the 80s were like everybody's at dinner table and then they take the shoe off and they're like Who does that nobody? That's been in movies. I've never known in real life something she's sitting there like Like under the table didn't ever happen And I like it the movies when the girls doing it she she's doing it to a boyfriend, but she's doing it to a girlfriend.

Yeah, that's the thing. And he just kind of looks real. So anyway, so what you're talking about is called imprinting and that's a real thing too. Okay. But that's not what they talk about in this article, but that can definitely happen. So like there was a screen. I mean, that's how I've always like, when people have these weird, so that's so, so what's interesting, there's a book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts.

I think this is in that book, and they talk about how this kid, the first, one of the first times they orgasmed, they noticed a spider was on their arm, and they created this, now they're all, I mean, you might have printed that, yeah, that creates a rousal.

So that actually happens, but I read in this article, that, say what? Hey, kids never gonna get late. No, no, no, no, no, no never gonna get late. So we want to spider. Hey, babe, can you dress up as a spider? Yeah. No, so what this talks about is they are finding that the parts of the brain that process

is sensations in the feet. Oh, that would have been another good guess. It's how many nerve endings we have in our feet. There's lots anywhere else. Yeah, so there's lots of nerve endings, but the parts of the brain that process, some of these nerve impulses or whatever, you know, feelings are is very closely connected or near to the parts of the brain

that process orgasm. So it's very, very close. So they talk about this woman who she had a, she had this medical procedure done. And then afterwards she came back in complaint because she kept getting orgasms that were coming from her foot. And they couldn't figure out what was going on.

And they put it down, they first they called it, you know, it was type of, you know, nerve damage or whatever. But it kept happening. And they, they, and again, the sensation started her foot, we'll go through her vagina and have these orgasms. And they're saying, no, it's, it may be because the parts of the brain that process sensations and the feet are so closely in just, just in terms of distance, so close to the parts of

the brain that process orgasm. So this makes a crossover. Yeah. So this is a similar, like, have you guys ever noticed that? Uh, so what about the guy that sucks the toes? I mean, I think it's all connected. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever had someone like read your feet before?

Oh, what? Yes, Katrina can do that. What? Yes, read your feet. So because of all the nerve endings that are in your feet, like these massage therapists, like Katrina will tell you, like show, show, show, so they start. So they'll touch your foot, like most really good massage service, you'll notice we'll start with your feet, and they start with your feet because they're reading your body, and they'll know by where, where your, where your, where your step in your feet, where you're probably hurting your shoulder, your neck, your little back. And they do that Chinese medicine too. So what does it say about me that you can't touch my feet, at all, touch my feet, I jump off the table,

don't touch my feet, I wanna hear which, tell me later. Oh yeah, to get none on air, I don't know. Why don't you, you don't know what the answer is. Yeah, I don't. I don't injuries in my feet like substantial ones, so I don't, I hate when people like massage my feet. I have a gas based off of what I know from her is that you, that means you're holding a lot in

Internally a lot I know I'm not saying that I'm not I asked her will ask you here today So we'll ask her today what what it what it mean if your feet are so overly sensitive Okay, I'm sorry. I just don't on me. So the guy sucking the toes. He's pleasureing Why So I guess my point is like, the steps to get there is like, yeah, and you know, and this can be evolutionary because feet didn't look nice not that long ago. Yeah, well, everything is evolutionary too, right?

That's exactly right. But anyway, so I don't think that it's well, so to give an example of sensations or things that are close to other parts of the brain that can cause this kind of crossover, have you guys ever noticed that among close to other parts of the brain that can cause this kind of crossover. Have you guys ever noticed that among anything, among any of your senses, sight, hearing, touch, smell, nothing will invoke a memory. Like you actually being there, like smell. Even if you're not saying, you'll smell something and you're there instantly. In a memory, nothing else will do that.

And they say it's because the the part of the brain that process is smell is so close to the part of the brain that brings up memories. So that's why smell can literally like I remember I went when I went into a a classroom of the elementary school that I went to like years years later. I don't remember while I was in there and I the smell brought me back to when I was kid. Like instantly I had the memory of being there. So anyway, so what would you think is the next closest? Would you think like hearing? What would you think is the next thing that would bring you like? Yeah. So because I, you know, we actually had this,

this funny you're bringing this up because we actually had this conversation this weekend talking about, like this is part of my love for music. You're probably right. I love that. One of my favorite parts about music is you can play a song, especially if

it's like 15, 20 years old, and I can go to the moment I heard it the first time. And then all of a sudden that becomes just their intro. Yeah, oh yeah, the song starts playing and then I have like a full on memory for you. I can, but if I didn't hear that song, I couldn't really recall that memory, but also you play that song and I'm like, oh my God, that's 17 years old Hawaii driving around in the Hyundai little like All sudden it all comes together. So wow the nothing lights up the entire brain like music you guys know that well, you know that it's music's weird because It doesn't like it helps us with memory helps us with processing it brings up emotions

And literally if you watch the brain on an FMRI machine, music lights everything up. So that might be why, because it just literally lights up the entire brain. Which makes sense. And we hit that part. Because even when I brought up earlier the trauma of the mom thing, that memory brought me there, but not as much as a song would. A song one, I could give you, like I just said, the details of the car we drove, how warm it was outside, you know, I mean, like crazy.

Like you're there. Yeah, like I'm saying. Because I mean, you've even told me too, I think it's like your relative that like, teaches her kids how to memorize things with my singing. Yes. And like, that's super powerful.

That's something that I wish I would have done more but it really worked well on me. It'd be interesting to combo that and then like add a little like, a little sell. I told you, I told you. It's, oranges.

Yeah. So the school that Max goes to right now, challenger, they teach him a lot of stuff like that. Like that's why I thought it was so common. Like they're learning presidents right now and wars and the kids fucking three. Like how's he doing stuff like that, but they do it through song.

And so they, and they, that's how we've taught humans of taught things before writing everything in his past, which makes sense, right? I mean, that's, and your Justin's referring to Stephanie, like, and her kids are so damn. They're all homeschooled. They've all been homeschooled their whole life. But she did a great job. Oh my god, they're smart. They're all, and they all have, it's because of, of song they taught.

And they brilliant. And what it's smart about it is, it's easier to build on. It's like, where do you know the's because of a song, they taught, and they brilliant. And what it's smart about it is it's easier to build on. It's like, where do you know the lyrics to a song? Like, it's hard to forget, right? There's certain songs that you could probably still sing that you remember in high school, whatever. So what they do is they start them young with a short, easy catchy, and then they build on it,

and then build on it, and then build on it, and then before you know, it's like, it's almost like a novel is memorized. Well, let me ask you guys this. You guys ever say the alphabet? No, you still sing it. I guarantee you,, it's like they get almost like a novel is memorized. Well, let me let me ask you guys This you guys ever say the alphabet. No, you still sing it. I guarantee even now if you say it your head. You can sing the alphabet Well, that's why I go in reverse fucks you up. Yes. Yeah, yeah, I can try singing it backwards. Yeah, it doesn't work Yeah, I see maybe maybe my wife. She's listening to this right now. She's always talking about how I forget everything kind of you need to just sing to me You know, there it is. Hey, take out the garbage.

Let's remember this for meetings. I don't know. We'll get sales attention. I don't know if the gear work. I think it's too late, bro. I just need to get my brain stuff. I'll get off the guitar and we'll figure it out. Hey, Justin wants to talk to you real quick, Sal.

Please remove the boxes from the oven. I still think that, you know, who drew that one famous artist that drew Joe Rogan and so like that, I wanted to do one of Sal, we've talked about this off air many times. Oh, like an amateur. Oh, she's fantastic.

Yeah, and I envision your brain and you've got like this like, you know, studies and like all this like crazed like history of you. And you've got like all these little guys that work in and so that. And it's like, do the dishes like you fucking show up Yeah, one guy he's like this looking like this Sleeping on the job. He's fucking sleepy on the job. There's a task with all the papers

You guys need to come help me no, no, no, we're trying to remember studies on why feet you people orgasm Yeah, and speaking of feet I have the answer from Katrina on what this means about cells You just mentioned you did yeah, I got it So it means they don't want you to know what's going on with them. Oh She says feet are the map of the entire body. Yeah, yeah, so about that. I don't want to talk about it I mean I would agree. All that out there. I should we edit that out there. That's pretty interesting, but she knows me too. So she could have just said that. Did you say salad? Did you just ask the question? No, I didn't say his name. She didn't even sit. I intentionally kept that out. I mean, trust me, I've been with her long enough to be like, to try and like, shit on all the woo-woo stuff and I continue to get blown away by...

Oh, this is what she also wrote. Side note, Adam doesn't believe in that and teases me about it. That's so perfect. That's so funny, right? I mean, trust me, I've anyone guess her shit about all the woo-woo stuff. What, Dick, you make her think you don't believe it? Then I'll show her bring it up. Hey guys, we hear something cool. But actually, he played on the tellers, I do believe it.

I know, I learned from Katrina. Well, you know what it is, is like, I know matter how much I say I don't believe it. And I won't tell her, you know, and she'll happen to make you believe it. And then I won't say where I'm hurting or anything like that. And then she'll be around my feet. And then next thing you know,

she's like, slides right to the spot say where I'm hurting or anything like that and then she'll be running my feet and the next thing you know she's like sides right to the spot. I'm like yeah, yeah, it's happened enough times now. I'm like son of a bitch. I don't know. How does she know? Yeah, how does she know? You know, so it's it's pretty wild. All right, so I want to I want to talk about a whisper one of our sponsors. I'm still getting good messages about their the pre workout peak power from people. The comments that I'm getting are and just to be specific. People are saying things that's pre-workout peak power from people. The comments that I'm getting are, and just to be specific, people are saying things like, that's pre-work out in the world. Well, along those lines, they're saying,

they're saying, they're saying stuff like this, like it was way, it was much more expensive than the pre-workouts that I'm used to, but because I trust you guys, whatever, I tried it out, you're totally right, way better energy, much smoother, no crash, not making me jittery, doesn't make me feel like crap, doesn't give me gas for issues. I'm so glad I went with peak power.

Just some more good comments for you. You know, before we hang up, I had to bring this news up because this is freaking crazy. I want to talk about it before it's old news. WWE and UFC. Oh my God. So they emerged. Literally, this is happening right now. So I don't know.

Originally, I had it in my notes to talk about as a possibility. I believe right before we got on air, I saw somebody else share and post that has been confirmed at a $21 billion deal. Can you double check for me, Andrew, or Doug, and let me know? Like, is it for sure? It's a done deal. Yes. Well, I don't, it says UFC,

and I'm getting a notification, WWE and UFC will combine to form 21.4 billion dollar sports entertainment company. Endeavor group holdings will take 51% controlling interest, I suppose that's the WWE. Yes, that means Fitsman is officially the boss of Dana White. Yeah.

$21 billion. They're trying to go public. So they're gonna go public right after. So this is gonna crush because oh my god It's not as proven his business acumen and model. It just works and there's always been a lot of crossover anyways Like you know some of their retired athletes have gone over there. They've tried to kind of see him punk I think it stopped drug testing you think you're starting to smell the snow? Yeah, Lesnar, like coming back. No, I think you're gonna have, you know. Do you guys see the wrestler that they have that's, he, oh my God, how big is he? WWE or?

Yes, WWE. So he was like, supposed to wrestle Brock Lesnar. I've never seen this guy before. He is like a giant. What do you got? Osmo, I think his name. I've never seen this guy before. He is like a giant. Oh, I don't know. What do you got? Do you got those Mo, I think, his name? I don't remember his name.

What do you read, do you get that? Well, it looks like the UFC is actually taking 51%. And WWE is 49%. Oh, oh wow. So the day know would be boss. Dana's boss now. That's good. So okay, now you got this going on.

You have him. What do you guys think about the whole slap business he's doing right now? I think it was stupid. I think it was a thousand sharp. The whole side hustle. I don't like that. Okay, so that's my initial reaction too,

but you gotta think this guy has did his homework. Okay, what are all the negative things? So tell me what, why you think it's stupid and jumping the sharp? Well, okay, here's why I think it's dumb. It's because it's just violence for the sake of violence. You're just knocking each other out. Okay, that's why I think it's dumb. It's because it's just violence for the sake of violence. You're just knocking each other out. Okay, that's a terrible point.

That's like this. Well, how's the UFC different? There's technique, skill, they can block, they can fight. Right, these are just like hit me, hit me, hit me, hit me. Okay, okay. But I could foresee them put celebrities in something like this and I can see people paying a lot of them. And imagine like, you know, people

having beef on social media go do the slap thing. I want to see Will Smith and Chris Rock. I think everybody wants to see. That was the giant, uh, almost Jordan, almost, you know, see how busy. What's the thing with the specs? Yeah, I don't, I it doesn't he wasn't listed on here on his Instagram But where did you see him so DC? Oh, okay, he was interviewing him. Yeah, Dean of Columbia was interviewing him and like you know I mean DC's not a tall guy or anything, but it was just like he was Giantic. Some of these guys are so big you remember the big show show? Amazingly big. Remember Big Show? You ever watch Big Show? You ever watch Big Show just flip over cars?

A bunch of cars? There was this one scene where he went out and he just started flipping. He just started flipping. Yeah. Just imagine you're in the car, like, a natural monster. Yeah, I mean, natural monster.

Oh my God. Oh, hold on a second. Is that lesser than one? Seven foot three. Yeah. Wow. Oh wow. And he's like filled out, you know, he's not like this guy.

Is Brock Lesnar back into WWE? Yeah, he's been doing it. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he only three. He went right back to WWE after this. You know what's tough about that, guys? Is that he could literally just, he could take all our lunches and we'd have to give it to him.

Like, if he walked in right now and asked for lunch money, he could slap you before even knew it. Yeah, we just be like, You know what, though, like how often does someone in that size live to be much older than like 50, 60 years old? They don't make it really. They don't.

I think that's one of the downfalls of being, so I mean, yeah, you're gonna be this celebrity and so on that, but then you also have a very low, like what is like the old, I'd be interesting. What is like the oldest seven foot, you know, 250 pound plus guy life. What's the longest they've lived? You know what, along those lines,

you brought up Whitney at the beginning of the podcast. You know, I was talking, who was I talking? I was talking to somebody and they were talking about how, like, oh, you could be famous or whatever. I said, you know that, that if you just look at the data and the statistics, because people, I think people think fame, they have this idea of fame, of not, of what it's not really is. If you look at the data and the statistics,

it's actually one of the worst curses you could ever have as being famous. If you look at the mental illness, drug abuse, suicide rate, problem, marital problems, like divorce rate, one of the worst possible things that could happen to you You know or or or something that's not good. Let me just put it because there's definitely worst things but Fame is not a good thing that could happen you based on the data. It's actually a bad thing So if you became famous People think it would be great. It's not it'd be interesting to see at what age does do most people

I think realize that I do think that's like an age thing right? I think when you're a teenager even even I as a young kid thought, you looked at these famous people that, oh, that'd be so awesome. It's because you just want love. They can do it everything. You think fame is love. People will love me.

That's not what the same thing at all. Do you think that's what it is? Yeah, you're one piece of love for me. For me it was the money in toys. Yeah. At least that's what it was for me. It's a young kid. Let me ask you this.

As a young kid, if I presented- It was all the attention. If I presented you fame and money, or just money, would you have chosen fame and money, or money? Money. So you knew better. Well, I don't know that I would say that I

necessarily knew better, I just knew I wanted that more than I would care about. I never cared about it. Some people want fame. No, I know you're right. Some people want to be famous, want to be popular, want to be liked, like that they care about that. I don't care about that.

But maybe also, I wasn't denied that as a kid either. Maybe if I was a kid who was a loner, no friends, and didn't have any of that, I don't care about that. But maybe also, I wasn't denied that as a kid either. Maybe if I was a kid who was a loner, no friends, and didn't have any of that, maybe I would. Maybe I'd see all the cool popular kids, and I'd be like, man, I want that so bad, I want that life. And maybe that's what it is when you're a kid, and you're an outcast, maybe in high school,

and you see the popular kid, because that's probably when that matters the most and when it isn't so detrimental when you're just a popular kid in school. And so maybe that's what makes you look towards famous people and be like, I wanna be that popular kid so bad, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's just, I wanted the money.

I saw the cars, the houses, the boats, the shit like that. One of the biggest fears that anybody has is being socially ostracized. One of the biggest fears is public speaking. So it makes sense that the opposite side of that would be something you want, everybody to like me. But it's, again, if you forget like your feelings, if you just look at the data and how famous people end up, it's a terrible thing. It's more often a terrible thing than a good thing. But don't you think that like you're we're preaching the choir considering our audience is mostly 30 and above?

And so I think that, don't you think that most people older think that, then it's more of a you think you. I mean, I'm just, I'm asking that. I don't know how does he get older. Right, like don't you think that? Like I feel like that's like a 20 year old thing. I don't know how you would Google the fact check me on that, but it's, I feel like that's a,

who wants to be famous? Old people are going to be. No, I think you're right. Right. I mean, I feel like our audience, I think older people in famous? Old people are going to be. No, I think you're right. Right. I mean, I feel like our audience, I think older people in general just wiser. Yeah, you've been around a long time. I think it only takes a few,

like being connected to enough famous people, whether it's like directly or by proxy, you get to meet or know a couple people like that. Yeah, I think it's just to, yeah, you just don't understand what that all entails and what that lifestyle really looks like. Right, inside of what they're portraying, you know, too, yeah, you just don't understand what that all entails and what that lifestyle really looks like outside of what they're portraying. As a kid, you're kind of like into the razzle dazzle

and the whole, you get wooed by everything you're seeing on TV and movies and whatnot. And you start to idolize them and all this. And when you get older, you're like, okay, but yeah, I understand this, but everything else going on in your life is like a disaster Yeah, totally. I got a shout out for somebody on social media great page. I have a lot of followers But they have great great information and posts It's the holistic psychologist on Instagram and it's there's a period in between each word. So the period, holistic period psychologist,

great posts, great memes, if you wanna become more self-aware. Is there a business or a person? This is a person. What was the name, Dr. Soutman LaPara? Last name is LaPara, LEP. Girl? Yes.

So I think, do we reach out to her? I think we reach out to her. To the holistic psychologist? I might have. I hope so. I love their content. I think you might out to her. To the holistic psychologist? I might have. I hope so. I love their content. I think you might have shared this with me and then I DMed. Yeah.

Dr. Nicola Pere. Yeah, really good stuff, great stuff. Yeah, I think somebody else has mentioned to her to me before and I think we reached out. I hope so. Maybe ask Courtney if she's on that one. That would be a fun conversation. Totally.

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as to why they're looking for an alternative. Because hip thrusts are great, glute exercise, but there's a lot of really good glute exercises. The two of the big three. Well, maybe they're asking that because they already do hips. Yeah, that makes it. And because that's all over the internet right now,

as far as like the most popular. I mean, look, deadlift in deadlift variations, so traditional deadlift, sumo deadlift, stiff leg of deadlift, or many deadlift, one leg of deadlift, all great, a barbell squat before the hip thrust became popular. You know, when we were training people, nobody did barbell hithress. I, in fact, I used to do hip thrust as a primer, but really nobody ever did them as an exercise.

The glute exercise was always barbell squats. So let's do, let's do top three to four. And because, of course, get first what you're, what you're, barbell squats, obviously. The reason why you're saying that you're wishing you more is because it does matter right like if someone is they only do these movements and I see they're missing one of my top five I'm for sure inserting my top five because they're going to get huge benefits if one of my top five they already do all the time then maybe some of the stuff then we have other stuff right so that's the reason why I know you're saying that but generally speaking what are like let's say our top three

or four based off of our experience of training people, hip thruster up there, Barwell, back squat, but it's up there. So for me, that might be somewhat controversial, right? That I think Sumo deadlifts, I freaking love Sumo deadlifts. And part of the reason why is because of the the open stance and pressing the knees out and have the and pressing your knees out while you lift, which by the way is what you see all these, you know, bikini models doing with the bands around their knees,

just doing regular squats. I would rather do a Sumo than put bands around their knees while they squat. I would do traditional, you know, backloaded squats. I would do Sumo deadlis. I would do traditional, you know, back loaded squats. I would do sumo deadlifts. I would do hip thrust. Those three movements right there are like my top. And then you could put like Romanian deadlift or a good morning with a good glute squeeze at the top. Yeah. It's also an exceptional glute exercise.

I mean, those are the ones I always depended on to build a client's butt and it almost never failed. Just those right there. I mean, the split stance squat, you know, it was gonna move the needle quite a bit too. I just, I really like a heavy loaded Bulgarian split squat. And it's just, and yes, it's a bit challenging because of the balance and stability component too,

but once you master that and you're able to control it and like actually load it substantially, I think we really gotta look at it is like, which exercises can you load more substantially? Because now you're putting that kind of stimulus on the muscle. Okay, you guys all nailed all the most important things. This is why I wanted to talk with this

because I think it's like I want us to break down the things. Okay, you just nailed something you can load and has a stability component. You nailed things that load it at the top, load it at the bottom, and then all of us nailed it like a back squat, which would be a full range of motion. So it's like glute medias like your top and then I tell us you most are now I'm including the glute mead, which gives you that kind of side

butt look, right? That everybody wants. So that's how those come to be. Doesn't mean that there's not other exercises that aren't great. Then you can exchange them if you always do that. But man, those really hit like my top four for those reasons. We are loading heavy at the top, loading heavy at the bottom where you are full range of motion, where you're getting the adductors involved. Like you've got all these great compliments

with by that and stability component like you brought up with the Bulgarian. Yeah, I think the things to focus on, this is for any muscle, are can you connect to it and feel it well because a lot of the best exercises are what are known as compound lifts. This is where you use multiple joints,

like a squat, right? Hips, knees, even the ankles are involved. And you wanna be able to connect to the glutes because if you have poor glute connection, you could still squat, you could just can use more quad, more hamstring, for example. So connect, then when you can connect and feel the glutes load, then can I get them strong and can I load them with serious weight. Those two things alone

will build any muscle, especially the glutes. Next question is from Don't Worry, is Just Courtney. What are some of the biggest limitations for people who begin lifting for the first time at 40? All right. Physical limitations. It's always mobility. Yeah. Always going to be a mobility. By the way, this is always one of the biggest limitations with anybody. It just becomes a maybe different or bigger issue with someone over the age of 40, where I want to do this exercise or these movements. They're really good, but it hurts their back or their knee or they can't move properly, they can't connect properly.

So there's going to be a period of correctional exercise before we start to do some of these movements, which by the way, there's a misconception that the correctional exercise portion of a workout or routine means you're not building muscle, you're not getting results. That's not true. Correctional exercise still progresses you. So, and the reason why I'm saying that is a lot of people are like, they wanna skip it. Like, no, I just wanna get to the workouts

that really move the needle in terms of results. Yeah, you're serious story. Good, you guys are right out. Yeah, that you just just set off. So, Kyle, who works for us, is also a trainer. He also happens to train a lot of our family members. So this weekend when I was at the wedding, I was actually talking to my two sister-in-law

that trained with him, and they were telling me, I got to talk to Kyle, so the Kyle probably here this for the first time, and tell him to stand up for himself. But my mother-in-law, who's like the queen bee of the family, she's the one that runs a show, is always giving him shit because of the mobility stuff that he makes her do before that. And she's like, hey, let's go, speed it up, let's get to the lifting weights.

I don't need to be doing this bullshit. Like, and I'm like, well, is she just saying that and giving them, and she's like, no, she presses it and makes him do it. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna have to talk to him about that because I know that's a hard, like, how do you do it? The boss's mother-in-law is trying to tell you how to run your

session. He knows what she needs to do. He knows what she needs to do. She's over here trying to tell him how she needs to work out. But that's exactly, I mean, it highlights this point you're making right now is that, you know, what they, what my advanced age clients, client, any or a client above 30 even, that have mobility issues, is they see that work as insignificant or tedious or not burning fat, not building muscle, it's not helping them

towards their pursuit, and they want to rush to the things that get them sore or make them sweat way more. And that's probably one of the biggest limitations of when you're at that age. There's a right way to do it, and that's the right way. And the right way is the best way, right? The wrong way is the wrong way, it's the worst way. So the right way is to get is how you get the best results.

They're not independent from each other. You don't get better and faster results from doing it the wrong way. This is actually a conundrum a lot of trainers right into is where they have to combat clients who don't understand this. And here's what I wanna say to those trainers. Clients appreciate it.

When you show confidence and you stick to your guns and sometimes what you gotta say, sometimes this is the whip them into shape thing, not like beat them up in the workout. Ask them what they do for a living. But yes, sometimes you gotta say something like this. Look, I know what I'm doing. You hired me for a reason, do what I tell you.

I've actually had to say that to clients. Oh yeah, man. And they appreciate it. It's like, okay, well, they know what they're talking about. So. Yeah, and I think to, that is work that's moving you into that direction. So you're still contracting the muscles.

You're building a support system that now you can load in the future to have an even better successful outcome. And yeah, so that's all part of the process. I think one of the other sort of challenges like somebody coming in is the best lifts, the compound lifts. These are ones, there's an educational period that it's going to take and require for you to learn the skill of it first. So I think that's something to the concern.

You don't just jump into a lot of these exercises you see people do without the proper practice and not having the substantial loading you think you're able to do. One of the other limitations or challenges can be too is how much they're habits around eating. So if they, if you, like I know my clients that are 40 plus that, you know, eat a certain way, and they have a hard time breaking, like you made this point earlier, so I was just like, whatever you've been doing

for 40 something years hasn't been working. So we need to change your lifestyle. I'm part of changing your lifestyle. Means if you had this routine every morning of you eat this, you might have to change that. Yeah, you might have to change that. Yeah, you might have to change that. And you need even more difficult because it's been this many more years.

That's why, and that's my point, is that, when they're 20-something, you're still creating these habits, you're 40-something, you might have this routine that you've been doing forever that you think works really well for you, but it really hasn't served you because here you are. And so that sometimes is a little bit challenging to undo is to shake that up and be like, hey, we're not going to do that anymore. That's just across the board. That's a challenge.

I would say specifically for someone over the over 40, besides the physical limitations, which would be mobility work, the biggest lifestyle limitation I can see with someone over 40 is time. You don't get this necessarily with clients who are younger, but over 40 you get the like I work a regular job, I have kids, I have other way in their career. Yeah I have other responsibilities like you know I can't work out every day, I can't just be active all the time, doesn't work for me. So I need to figure out how to make the time to do. So I need to figure out how to make the time to do this and I need to figure out how to make this effective with the limited amount of time. Because one of the misconceptions is if I can't do this all the time, then

it's a waste of time and I'm not going to get great results. Not true at all. I've gotten some phenomenal results with clients in this age group, limited time, working out twice a week, two days a week. I've gotten some exceptional results with people in this age group limit of time working out twice a week, two days a week. I've gotten some exceptional results with people. But that's, I would say one of the biggest challenges because you're not dealing with like, when I would train retirees, because at one point I was training a lot of older people,

like time was never, you know, I have a Wednesday at 10 am open, okay, cool. Like anytime I had, they would show up. You know, you get over 40, like I can show up at 5 p.m. on this day, that's it, the rest of the week is totally shot. So it could get very challenging. So that becomes a skill. It can be. That could also be a superpower too, though, because they're like, so they have, I only have this time. I don't mess around like that type of deal, but you absolutely can become limitation. Next question is from Grace Wang. If inflammation

is necessary for muscle growth, should I still be trying to eat an anti-inflammatory diet? Oh, yeah. So inflammation is a double-edged sword. So, well, you can explain the difference to between exercise-induced inflammation versus being inflamed from diet. So dietary inflammation versus... Yeah, so chronic inflammation versus... Right, you know, limited inflammation is a signal on the body. That's all it is it tells your body that you're sick or that you need to repair or rebuild so it's a necessary process. So if you had no inflammation in your body you would literally break down and die okay, but it can also go too far in the other direction where you have too much inflammation,

you have lots of pain, you have mental issues like depression, anxiety, things also break down from too much inflammation. So the key is not getting rid of inflammation or encouraging inflammation. The key is to have a healthy inflammatory response, okay? So is an anti-inflammatory, quote unquote, diet good? Well, yes, because it's not anti-inflammatory

the same way drugs are. Like taking an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen or naproxin or aspirin literally stops the inflammatory process from happening through, you know, medical means. An anti-inflammatory diet isn't anti-inflammatory It's just a diet that's not pro-inflammatory like this standard Western American diet. That's that's really all it is It's just a healthy diet. They say anti-inflammatory diet because it's a little bit more of a marketing term But if you eat healthy then you you know it works with your body

You're gonna have a a good balanced inflammatory process. It's not like anti-inflammatory. Just not compiling on top of the inflammation that you've acquired through exercise. Have you guys ever jumped through like an anti-inflammatory book or diet? Yeah, it's like, I mean, I like it.

Yeah, it's all just, it's like, it's the diet. It kinda looks Mediterranean-esque to me. Yep. Yeah. And so, which I like that. Yeah, fish, nuts, you know, like a free meal. And so, which I like that. Yeah, fish, nuts, sea, olive oil, you know, vegetables. Yeah, no processed food, lower sugar. Yeah, it's a good, you know, I think this is like,

I think our opinion on this is like any other diet. I mean, I think that, you know, if you do that, you don't have to get hung up on it. It's like, oh, that diet is what's working so much for you. It's like, pay attention to all the different things you were eating before, before you go on this, quote unquote, anti-inflammatory diet, and pay attention to what you eliminated

and or what you've added into your diet. And look more like that. And then it doesn't mean that you can never have a stake again or you can't have these things that would be, what they would consider maybe pro-inflammatory in your diet. It's just that it's giving you these boundaries to live in. And I think it's, and it's not going, that type of eating

is definitely not going to hinder muscle growth. So long as you get your protein intake, you know, if you, you know, make sure that you're... Protein is not inflammatory or anti-inflammatory. It's just, it's an essential macronutrient. I guess it maybe if you're eating ungodly amounts or too little, maybe it could mess up with your inflammatory process. Well, what it'll mess up with your inflammatory process.

Well, what it'll do is it'll hinder you building. If the question is about muscle growth and you're on a diet, the thing that the biggest thing that you need to worry about out of that, is it, are you getting enough growth? Let me give you an example. Studies will show that taking lots of non-staroidal anti-inflammatories, like the ones I mentioned earlier, ibuprofen, approxin, aspirin, and the like can actually hinder athletic performance or healing or muscle building if used chronically because it blocks some of that signaling process. Okay, but that's a drug. It's different.

Omega-3 fatty acids. There are essential fatty acids when they're in balance with the other essential fatty acids, has quote unquote anti-inflammatory effects. Studies show that supplementing with omega-3 fatty acids doesn't reduce muscle growth in many cases encourages muscle growth because it improves health. So there's a difference between blocking inflammation

and having a healthy inflammatory response. And the anti-inflammatory diets, the ones that I've seen, typically are just healthy diets. So they're not gonna hurt anything they'll help. Next question is from Nikki MK Fit. What are some tips for coming out of contest prep or a deep strict deficit to regulate hunger hormones

without binging on all the foods? I mean, I think the mistake that people make, and this is not just contest prep diets, but this is just diets in general, is they set goals for like, oh, I'm going to Vegas, or oh, I have a show, and they diet real strict. And then the day after the show or the day after Vegas or whatever they were dieting for, they just like come on hinge. I think it's super common. And it doesn't that make growling and everything go just so?

Oh yeah. And so the thing is that I always taught it like, you don't look at the Vegas trip or the show as the end of the diet. A good habit to have is extend the diet two weeks later. And then allow the event that you were getting ready for, whether it be Vegas, a weekend, or a contest, as like, okay, so maybe that day,

you allow yourself to drink, eat, do your thing, whatever after this contest or Vegas, but then you are still on the diet for an extended two weeks out, at least that afterwards, where you're reversing out of what you just came up. You're not just a full stop getting out of it. Yeah, you're not going...

And by the way, if you've done a real, like, contest people, like if you've died it really hard for an extended period of time, and you have one day or two days even of eating a lot of calories, you're not gonna do that much damage. You're gonna put on that much body fat in that short period of time. I mean, of course, you can. I know people are gonna jump on me for that. For the most part, you won't. And then you have these the next two weeks after that

kind of still on a diet where I'm and I so I would have a memory told you guys last two or three weeks is I would start to do cardio. I would be at the lowest calories. And so as I would come out of that the prep, I would, you know, the first thing I would do is add some calories. I wouldn't completely reduce all the cardio. And then I would cut back a little bit on the cardio, and then add a little bit more calories, and then it would come back a little bit more. And you just slowly kind of... You back out slowly? Yes. Step out. The same way you kind of stepped in, you step out in that same type of cadence until you were at a place where you don't have to feel like you're restricted, and you don't feel like you're restricted and you don't feel

like you're doing tons of cardio. I also think your expectations can really have a big impact. Like, okay, you just did a contest. It's a question here is about contest prep. The few weeks before a contest, getting ready for contest are nothing, they're not healthy at all. It's an unhealthy process. You're getting super shredded.

You're very, you're restricting yourself beyond what would be considered normal, both mentally and physically. You show up on stage and you just, again, it's just, it's a poor health presentation that maybe looks good for particular contests. So your expectations should be afterward you're gonna have crazy hunger.

It would be like if you were locked in a cell and starved, you're gonna have really strong hunger feelings, stronger than you've probably ever felt before. Now why am I saying that? Because if you expect that, I think you can probably handle it better, then if you're like, oh my god, an overwhelmed by it, and I don't have this contest to control myself for. So now what do I do, type of deal. So I think getting comfortable with the idea that after your show,

you're going to feel hunger like you've never felt before and you're just going to have to deal with it. There's a, there's a pretty, an easy strategy for this, but if you're willing to stay disappointed and that simply is don't allow yourself to go bananas on the process foods. That's where it gets really difficult. If you came out of a contest and you were a client of mine and you stuck to whole foods, I don't care how much you eat. Yeah. Go eat. Eat your hungry.

Eat hungry again. What a great point. Eat, eat. Otherwise, you're compounding on top of everything with the process. You'll be fine. You literally will. Where these competitors get in trouble and you see it all over the internet,

they plan for it. Chris Prima don't know. Oh, do they set up, I mean, weeks in advance, many of these athletes, they already have their post-show stuff. I'm not surprised. And I'm talking, it's like boxes of Oreo cookies and top tarts and a dozen of donuts. Bro, it's disgusting.

Yeah, I mean, they just, they have it all mapped. And of course, you're gonna overy and binge that stuff because you keep eating it, it makes you hungrier where if I told that same person, okay, none of that bullshit. But if you were hungry, go have yourself a steak. Go have potatoes. Go have, but put cheese on it and enjoy,

I mean, as long as it's whole foods. Yeah, you're right. Go to town. Because otherwise you're not only are you, you've as it's whole foods. Yeah, you're right. Go to town. Because otherwise you're not only are you, you've starved yourself for the show, so you're gonna be hungry. But then you're gonna throw on top of all of that. High-propouitable foods.

Foods that are engineered to make you overeat. So you're at, it's like this, this like tornado, this perfect novelty everywhere that you just can keep. Dude, I trained a girl that literally post-show, and she was tiny, She was like 110 pounds post show. The two months following game 27 pounds. Oh, but I've seen that done in 19 weeks on little girls. Wow.

I've seen 20, 30 pounds go on bikini competitors in two weeks. It's crazy. Yeah. No, it is crazy. How fast they can throw that thing in. Well, it's so what's and the body's absorbing what's what's absorbing, what's, what's dangerous in, in why I think it's at a control so much is it's deceiving. Cause they eat like that for the first two days

and they actually look better and they feel better and they look better. Everything, like everything's better. Like they were so depleted, they were so unhealthy going into it. Their body was starving of anything and then they feed it like all this shit and the body just feels feels invincible. Oh, yeah

So you're like oh, man, I actually that didn't even do any damage I feel better if a good and so then you just justify doing that so my simple advice you see people gain that much in two weeks Oh, yeah, oh wow. Yeah, no, I've seen I've seen it at a control man So I mean, and to be honest you gotta remember one a lot of water weight, right? So they put on probably five pounds plus of water weight alone. And then they probably needed, you know, five or 10 pounds of body fat put on them because of how unhealthy. Just imagine the aftermath of all that.

Like, oh, yeah. Sit on the can, do you know what? You know what, actually what's really weird, what's really weird is because you're so deprived, you're so deprived, you actually don't get that until a while later. Oh wow. Yeah, like things that you're just absorbed it.

Yeah, because it's like, you're so depleted that it's just, it's stuck to, you're like, I'm in North Korea, you're in North Korea. And your metabolism, because you build all this muscle over a show in there with that that is so roaring on top of that too. So it's like it just powers through the first day or two of that. But yeah, I mean, if you literally just said, just made it real, and here by the way,

it doesn't mean there's not like a middle ground here too. It doesn't mean like I can't, you can't go like, hey, no, you need to get in the way. I'm gonna go ahead. Right, the name of the show, like go ahead, go have your in and out burgers and fries, maybe have some processed food, enjoy yourself or right after the show and like, in ticket deep breaths,

you discipline yourself that long. But then in the very next day, get right back to whole foods. And then don't put it in a container on it. Don't put it in a container on it. Don't, you don't have to weigh in, measure anymore, just eat Whole Foods and let your body like naturally regulate itself.

And I guarantee you will not put on 20 pounds. No, you're not gonna overeat to nearly the same extent. No. With, with, with, with, you know, steak, potato, fruit, vegetables, like chips, pop, tarts, donuts, ice cream. Oh, you're going off. Yeah, that's all gonna do.

Yeah, you're going to. You've never seen the pictures that these people opposed to us? No, I have. donuts, ice cream, pizza. Yeah, that's all gonna do. You've never seen the pictures that these people opposed to us? No, I have. Oh, they're really positive. I'm gonna go right now, post show food for competitors. I guarantee you like, I don't know what's crazy is what Adam said is that they'll post.

Yes, they'll be like, oh, I can't wait to eat all this and it's like three weeks before the show and they'll have like a big room or something. They've already prepped, they've already got everything they want. It was a thing where competitors would be like talking way in advance of the show and they just keep compiling stuff. Like, oh, I didn't think about that.

Oh, you, oh, and then they start, and I do the, I think one of them I did like three or four of those. And then also, uh, cinnamon one time. Cinnamon, I crushed and vague after the, has anybody felt good after eating one of those? A cinnamon? I mean, that I did after that. I did.

I was all, I had four of them. I have four of those. I mean, they're delicious. 15 or calories suckers. Oh my god. They're good. Yeah, I only, so I experienced this, the very first show, I did go off the rails and I didn't, you know, come out of the dice. All the advice I'm giving, I also did the other side too, so I know what I've been on

the dark side too, right? I've just eating like an asshole afterwards. And, you know, and then I would say I ended up after six shows later, somewhere in the middle where it's like, I'm gonna have my in and out, I'm gonna enjoy that night or what I'll let that out, and those calories went, and then I just, the next day I'd be back to training,

and back to whole foods, and then, but all I would do is not limit it. I wouldn't be weighing anymore, I wouldn't be in a tub where I just be like, hey, steak, rice, eggs, potatoes, just as much of it as I wanted, as long as I stayed with them. I could see that.

It's a real dysfunctional for most people. You have a pretty good discipline with that, like switching to one thing and the other, but like, you know, to be in that mindset for so long of like restriction and like, that must be really hard for people to learn. That's why I told, I never exaggerated that to you guys when I thought, that blew my mind that there were more eating disorders and dysfunction around food in the competitive bodybuilding

world than there ever was. And I've tried every eating disorder and I mean, we specialize in obese people. That's what we dealt with. It's not even close. Not even close. They have way worse, way worse. And it's the irony of it is nobody thinks that

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