Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2072: The Best Workout for Busy Moms

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

In this episode Sal, Adam & Justin cover key workout considerations for busy moms. Raising kids is EXTREMELY demanding and unpredictable. (1:44) Designing a routine that compliments your life. (5:...15) Target areas that moms want to focus on. (9:04) The Best Workouts for Busy Moms. #1 - Mobility first. (10:50) #2 - Get strong. (15:44) #3 - Target specific areas. (20:24) #4 - Do more with less. (26:28) #5 - When time permits, add volume and time. (31:09) Related Links/Products Mentioned Special Promotion: 60% OFF Fit Mom Bundle, Bikini Bundle, Fabulous 40’s Bundle, or Build Your Butt Bundle. Mapsfitnessproducts.com **Promo code FITMOMS at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! How To Do The Pelvic Clock Exercise Why Mobility Needs to be The Primary Focus Over Losing Weight After Having a Baby – Mind Pump Blog How Should You Workout Before and During Pregnancy? – Mind Pump Blog Getting Back in Shape After Having a Baby – Don’t be Hard on Yourself – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the most downloaded fitness health and entertainment podcast ever. This is Mind Pump, right? Today's episode, we're talking about busy parents, specifically busy moms. What are the best workouts for busy moms to get incredible body sculpting and fat loss results?
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Starting point is 00:01:53 Large majority of them were parents, that were busy and the subcategory of that, that was the largest, were moms, busy moms. So we became experts at getting busy moms fit and healthy with the constraints of their lifestyle. Today's episode, we're gonna talk about that. We became experts at getting busy moms fit and healthy with the constraints of their lifestyle. In today's episode, we're gonna talk about that. You're busy, you don't have a schedule that's free, you might not have lots of equipment,
Starting point is 00:02:13 but yes, you can get an incredible shape. Just do what we say in today's episode. Just do what we say. Just do what we say. Do what we say. You would never say that as a trainer, right? Just hire me to do what I said and tell you. No, this a trainer, right? Just hire me do what I do and I say and tell you. No, this is, I mean, when you guys say
Starting point is 00:02:28 this is probably the largest category of clients we go. Oh, not easily. It's not even close. It's by far the largest category. Now, and I would consider that we got pretty good at doing that over those decades. I would say that having a wife at home brought it into a whole
Starting point is 00:02:45 other perspective. And I'd say there's things today that I think about or communicate when speaking to a mom that is a little more unique. I think I helped a lot of moms back in the days, but I think having that close of a perspective that I didn't have before has given me the words for other things that I don't think I was probably communicate
Starting point is 00:03:09 as well before. Yeah, I would say that's a good observation, same. Because then you're in it and you see it directly and you can see, like, I mean, it's tough because first off getting fit is just hard or consistently, I should say right getting fit and staying fit and You know staying consistent with that That's hard for anybody period end of story. It's just tough. It's a tough thing to do
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's hard to maintain the discipline and the consistency. It's hard to find something that works for you It's hard to understand how to train your body in a way that's effective We're not overdoing it. We're not hurting yourself in a way that's effective, where you're not overdoing it, or you're not hurting yourself, in a way that you feel like this is great. I enjoy doing this type of deal. So it's hard across the board, but then you throw on top of it, you got kids. And children, especially when they're young,
Starting point is 00:03:57 are very, very demanding. Anybody who has little kids will tell you that all day long they're demanding. You might get a break here and there, but it tell you that all day long, they're demanding. You might get a break here and there, but it's just demanding all day long. And then to make it even more challenging, it's unpredictable. So unlike a work schedule where you go to work at a particular time, you have lunch at a particular time, and then you finish at a particular time, typically raising kids
Starting point is 00:04:21 is not like that. Yeah, like nap times can be super unpredictable. Sometimes they go down for a half hour for some reason they wake up the other time they sleep longer This one went down this one didn't You know this is going on. They're a little sick. They're cranky. They don't want to eat their lunch Now I got to figure out so it's like just it's just every day can be super unpredictable So it's like demanding and an unpredictable life and then on top of it You're trying to you to be consistent with exercises.
Starting point is 00:04:46 There needs supersede your own at that point too, which is like, that's the tough part of balancing and realizing that a full cup is much more productive than half empty to empty cup to be able to keep it going and to be effective and have that kind of energy you need to be good at all the other things going on in this sort of chaotic whirlwind that sometimes can be the environment that a mom goes through. Well, that's why it's so important that you create something or you design a routine for yourself that complements your life versus this daunting exercise program at the fall.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I remember when Katrina was, and then obviously you have that period of time right after the baby with a doctor say, don't do anything, right? So she's somewhat said there. That's six weeks, so like that. Yeah, six to eight weeks is I think kind of the standard. Even though I think she was back a little bit sooner than that,
Starting point is 00:05:43 she was asking me, what do I do right now? I said, listen, don't overcomplicate this, don't overthink this, don't overdo this right now. Like, start with just purely mobility stuff. What's beautiful about that is the baby can be laying right there on the living room floor, and you could be in there doing a lizard with rotation right afterwards.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And you are moving in the right direction, creating good habits, and you're already starting to lay the foundation for how I'd want you to train anyways, even if you didn't have a kid, these are things that would be good for you to do, especially post having a child. So yeah, no, that's a good point because what you're saying, by the way, is for anybody,
Starting point is 00:06:19 not just somebody who has kids is busy in that sense, is that people tend to over complicate things anyway. They tend to put too much focus on the things that don't give them the greatest return, and not enough time on the things that give them the greatest return, and they don't do it in a way where it's effective, and so they spend their tires. That's almost everybody who starts working out
Starting point is 00:06:40 or tries to do something with fitness to improve their fitness and health, That's true for everybody. But then again, you throw kids on top of that in that environment, and it just complicates things even more. I think one of the biggest things that I figured out in my career as a trainer was if I gave these people options so that whatever popped up, they had an option that was effective. Then they had more tools in a tool belt and they were less likely to miss their workouts. Right, so it's like, you know, there's workouts
Starting point is 00:07:10 you can do with the gym, but can you do things at home? Yes, here's some things you can do at home. Here's what that structure looks like. Can you do things at home for only 10 minutes? Because sometimes that's all you have, maybe twice or three times a day, or the things you can do at home that require no equipment, or you can use bands, or you can use body weight.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And then when you do have that time, what can you do at the gym with weights and stuff like that? So it's like, here's your options, here's our we're gonna structure this. And then you can somewhat, and I'm saying somewhat, because I know life can be almost impossible, but somewhat, roll with the punches
Starting point is 00:07:42 and develop this consistent super effective. And I wanna say that clearly, super effective routine. You're not trading effectiveness for what I'm talking about. If you do this right, you're gonna get incredible results. But you just gotta know how to put it together. Yeah, it's then speaking to those tools, it's like this, you know, finding that sort of ormetic dose, that right dose.
Starting point is 00:08:01 So if it's a therapeutic dose, you can create like a therapeutic kind of session using mobility, using like different movements to actually restore energy and to get you to feel like, it's something that's a little bit less taxing and demanding, but it also helps kind of keep the momentum and keep stimulating the body in an adequate way. And then also, you know, you can go to more some days where you have a bit of that energy where you can express it a bit more and you can go a little more intense. And so now we're moving more towards our adaptation and muscle building.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And so there's ways to kind of weave in and out based off of feeling what's been going on in your environment and also what's, you know, most best to apply here. Yeah, and that's, and by the way, cumialively, you now have an effective routine. So you need to be able to do all of that. And that's true for anybody, by the way. So everything we're saying now, what we're going to talk about today actually applies to everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We're just being more specific to the general demands and challenges that busy moms have. So like to be,. So to speak generally, generally speaking, there are target areas that I think moms tend to say, hey, this is what I want to focus on. The first one would be their core. And this is for obvious reasons. If you're a mom, especially if you have little ones,
Starting point is 00:09:20 you just had kids, or you just had a baby. The muscles of the core have to shift, change, and some actually have to atrophic, right? They have to weaken in order to make room for growing baby. After the baby's born, if you don't train the core properly according to where you're at, meaning you can't just jump into a core routine, there's proper movements and exercises, then your risk of injury goes up and your results, your possibility of good results declines quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Another one is your posture. Posture is greatly affected by pregnancy and breastfeeding and raising kids and holding kids. If we don't work on the muscles that support the type of posture that makes you feel good and you just jump into a workout, you'll actually strengthen a posture that is not beneficial. You'll actually just strengthen this new posture that you have, which will make things
Starting point is 00:10:13 a lot more difficult and delay results. So posture is something that you want to consider quite a bit as well. And then of course, this is common for most women anyway, but the glutes. Now the glutes, of course, is aesthetic reasons. It looks nice to have developed butt or whatever, but also this is part of the hip complex.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Supports the low back, prevents things like low back pain, improves locomotion, gives you stability, and then of course it looks really good. So those are the areas that you really are things to really consider with people. And of course, there's individual variances. If you're listening, you may have other specific areas you want to work on,
Starting point is 00:10:47 but generally speaking, those are the areas that tend to be communicated. And you can't stress enough the posture and core thing coupled with mobility work, right? I remember telling Katrina this, and I know she was antsy to get back into lifting weights because she felt like she had been inconsistent, obviously, for that period of time, and wanted to get her body back into lifting weights because she felt like she had been inconsistent obviously for
Starting point is 00:11:05 that period of time and wanted to get her body back into shape. What I had to explain to her is people always confuse mobility work with yoga. I'm like, this is not the same. You're not relaxing and just stretching. Mobility strength training. Yes, it's a form of strength training. If I can correct your posture, work on your core and start to really strength train
Starting point is 00:11:28 in the most safe best way we can, like this is the most ideal way for you to start before you progress. Not to mention what's great is you can do all this in the living room. And so I had to convince her that this isn't just you sitting around and yoga stretching and you're not progressing towards your aesthetic goals
Starting point is 00:11:46 that I know that you wanna get to. This is actually the faster, better way, even though in your head, it doesn't feel like it. You think, you're bulletproofing the framework for you to then be able to add substantial loads. So now your success is really riding on, you know, how much we can kind of push that out instead of being limited because we haven't put
Starting point is 00:12:07 that attention there to really be able to sustain a good amount of load and to be able to stimulate the muscles in that direction. Yeah, mobility's not flexibility, by the way. Flexibility is a component of mobility, but in particular, especially when you're pregnant and post pregnancy in the years after, you have probably really good flexibility,
Starting point is 00:12:27 but you lack the strength and stability within that flexibility, so you don't have good mobility. So what happens, you go to an exercise that you think is gonna be really effective, and you're just not, the muscles aren't firing the way they should, you're not gonna get the great results, or what's real common is you get hurt. You're like, my low back now is bothering me
Starting point is 00:12:44 when I'm doing these exercise I used to do before. Or, you know, I am doing core exercises, but I still have this lower belly pooch, like what's going on? Why can't I like get my core tighter? Or my body's just not responding? Well, you didn't do what you need to do first. This is for everybody, by the way,
Starting point is 00:12:58 and this is a priority for everybody, is mobility first, always. If you can't connect properly to muscles and you can't fire them in stable solid ways, adding weight in reps is a waste of time. If anything, that's gonna take you backwards. So it's always mobility first. Now the beauty of this is mobility work, like Adam said,
Starting point is 00:13:19 requires no equipment. It requires no long workouts. You can do mobility work throughout the day in 30 seconds, 60 second, 90 second increments. Literally. A share. 100%. A lot of ways to do it. Yeah, if you have good mobility movements, which is strength training. They are strength training. They just don't require equipment. And you're starting out and you're doing this, or let's say it's a day where you couldn't make it to the gym. and you're starting out and you're doing this, or let's say it's a day where you couldn't make it
Starting point is 00:13:44 to the gym, throughout the day, there's probably at least five to 10 moments where you could do something for 30 seconds to 60 seconds of mobility. So when you add it all up throughout the whole day, you did like 30 minutes of, you know, or 15 minutes of mobility strength training work. You actually got throughout the whole day,
Starting point is 00:14:02 something that is, you know, close to strength training or is strength training got throughout the whole day something that is close to strength training or is strength training just with the mobility focus. So the beauty of it is it's super convenient, doesn't require equipment, doesn't require space, very little space, and it's something that you could do, again, you could do this on an almost daily basis. In fact, if this is all you did, if you're not working out now, and all you did was work on mobility throughout the day
Starting point is 00:14:26 because you had, just it was just too crazy, you couldn't go anywhere, you had no equipment, you could do anything, and all you did were these small increments and mobility. You would see substantial results, of course combined with a good diet, but you would see substantial sculpting results over the course of like six months.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So this is not like a small thing like this is a big deal and that's why it's the first thing that we're well, I mean Katrina did and she so we do we focused here for like the first month so the first month in which at first I remember her being like oh my god this is all maybe and I suggest hanging by the way sweating after these mobility workouts too so it's not like these are like oh you if you you do it right, it's you. Yeah. And that's what I explained to her. I was like, no, listen, if you if you intensify the in ranges of motion in these movements, I promise, you're going to feel like you got a great little workout after doing all of them. So for the first month, that's what it looked like for us. And then we progressed into two days a week in anabolic. That was like the
Starting point is 00:15:20 the next transition was that, and of course, we kept a couple of the mobility drills and things that she was doing beforehand. That was something that I wanted to continue all the way through. Like you keep in our good posture and continuing to strengthen our core through the program. But then now we are ready to kind of start to do load, which Maps and Obolic was the trend. That's the second, yeah, that's the second piece is, you know, mobility first, because we're setting the foundation, we're progressing through that. And then when you have those opportunities to do a good workout, the primary pursuit, the thing you should aim for and measure is strength. Strength is in this case, in many cases, but definitely
Starting point is 00:15:57 in this case, the best pursuit you can go after because if you're getting stronger, you're probably feeding yourself properly. If you're getting stronger, you're definitely most likely building some muscle. If you're getting stronger, that muscle is going to contribute to a metabolism that's faster, which means you're going to burn body fat easier. And you can eat more while burning more body fat. And if you're getting stronger and building muscle and speeding up your metabolism, your hormones are also probably organizing themselves in a way to do so, which is a hormone profile that is more youthful. So growth hormone levels are better, more balance of estrogen and progesterone, testosterone levels. Yes, this is important for women to are optimized.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So if you pursue getting stronger, then you're, and you get stronger, you're moving in the right direction. Versus, if I look at the scale or the mirror or almost anything else, how sore I get or anything else, all of those can or cannot mean good things. Oftentimes, I mean bad things, especially if that's all you're measuring. For example, if you're just looking at the scale,
Starting point is 00:16:59 boy, you can you lose muscle and lose weight on the scale and feel like you're progressing. When, in fact, you just made yourself actually a higher body fat percentage. You just set yourself up for much more struggle in the future. But if you focus on getting stronger, like this is where you're probably gonna do your best,
Starting point is 00:17:16 this is where I had a lot of success. I would get these moms and we'd be like, they'd say, I wanna lose weight. I wanna just, I just want you to add 50 pounds to this lift right here and they would laugh and it's an unexplained to them, and then we would do it. And that was it. Once I showed them what that felt like,
Starting point is 00:17:28 and what it did for them, that was it. That's all they wanted to do. Yeah, it's interesting, like, you know, taking from postpartum, and like, what you're really dealing with is like, an entirely different body. You have to get back in your body, and that's all through that process of control, stability,
Starting point is 00:17:43 and, you know, just really being able to sustain certain postural positions again, and to build a feel, your body react appropriately and to respond so it maintains that properly. And then we get to the point where we start adding load and we work on strength, and then it's like, we feel like ourselves again, like you can get to that point where you feel yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Now we're even going even further. If you did it, if you spent that amount of time there, it's amazing how much that accelerates, you know, once you get to the strength phase, like even beyond what your capable of. So now that one modification that Katrina and I made to Anabalakwa are doing this, which was, this was obviously almost four years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:23 This was before Mount 15, is we would actually break up Annabelle throughout the day. Totally. It just worked so much better, which by the way, I think some of the, that doesn't reduce your results at all. No, no, no, she got phenomenal results that way. This is also what inspired the creation of Maps 15 for other people too, that have similar type of schedules. It just worked so well for her to be able to just break away for these in these little
Starting point is 00:18:48 10, 15 minute or single, just one exercise you would go do and then come back, worked really, really well. So that was the goal. The goal was, okay, we've focused a lot on mobility. Now we're going to transition into strength training. Okay, what's great about anabolic is it's a full body routine. So I know even if you have a really crazy week and you only get one workout,
Starting point is 00:19:09 at least are moving in the right direction and you're gonna hit all body parts. Now the next hurdle and challenges, oh my God, how often do I get a full hour by myself? Well, okay, don't worry about that. Let's just do it in these 10 to 15 minute increments throughout the day until you complete the workout and that ended up working incredible for them.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah. So generally you want to get stronger, generally. That means strength gains in any movement is beneficial. Now, that doesn't mean that strength gains in any movement are all equivalent. Some strength gains are going to give you way more reward than other strength gains. For example, if you get stronger in some of the big, what are known as the big lifts, like a deadlift or a squat or an overhead press
Starting point is 00:19:50 or a barbell row or a bench press, you're going to see more effects physically and visually than if you get stronger on other exercises that aren't in those big categories, like a curl or a lateral or a donkey kickback type of deal. Getting stronger is still good, but if you got stronger in a squat, you'll see way more in the mirror than if you got stronger with let's say a donkey kickback or a bicep curl. Okay, so, so, and the reason why I'm saying that is getting strong is good, but make sure you get strong or
Starting point is 00:20:21 focus on the on the on the exercises that give you the most return. Now once you're generally getting stronger because you got to do this before you do the next step. Once you start to really see yourself just generally getting stronger in some of these big lifts, in these whole body exercises, then the next kind of phase would be to now target specific parts of your body. Now what does that look like? Now here's where people make a mistake. I'll start there. Is there doing this great full body routine? They've got some consistency going on on a weekly basis.
Starting point is 00:20:53 They're getting stronger overall. And then they're like, you know what I want to do? I want to put more emphasis on my butt or more emphasis on my shoulders or my back or my core. And then what they do, here's the mistake they make, is they add more exercises and more was called volume to those areas and they keep the whole work out the same. They haven't eliminated anything else.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Right. So they're just throwing more on top of it. Now this is why that's a mistake, because the total volume that you're doing, that's working for you, you've probably hit the sweet spot of volume. And it's a sweet spot because less produces less results, more also produces less results. So if I take that sweet spot and then add volume to it because now I want to work on a specific part of my body, I'm going to move out of that sweet spot. Even though I'm putting more emphasis
Starting point is 00:21:40 on that particular body part, I'm actually going to get less overall and less including on that specific body part because now I'm doing too much volume overall. So that's one of the big mistakes that people make. So what you do is, when you've got this routine that's working, you're building general strength and then you wanna start to get more specific, you don't just add volume, you take volume away from some areas
Starting point is 00:22:01 so that you can add it to the specific area. So think of it this way, you have a hundred chips that you can use it to the specific area. So think of it this way, you have 100 chips that you can use. You can use them however you want. If you want to add more to one area, you got to take them from another area. This is how you can get specific with your workouts and put more emphasis on your glutes or your back or your shoulders or whatever. Why is that concept so difficult for us to grasp?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Is it because this does not apply in many other things in life and at the opposite is kind of true, like the more effort, the more work you do, the more return. In fact, I got into it with somebody at the underneath your video on Tom Billio, I don't know if you saw that. Video he posted and went kind of viral,
Starting point is 00:22:39 and there was a guy on there that says, oh, this is not true. And it was somebody who lost like a hundred pounds and was just like, all you have to do is work harder, moral hard work, I'm like, you know, unfortunately, buddy, that's not how this works. And especially if it's for long term results, I mean, you may be able to will your way
Starting point is 00:22:56 to your first hundred pounds down and so with that, but eventually that super low calorie diet that's super slow, metabolism that you have now catches up with you. And then most people, there's a reason why 80 plus percent put it back on. So what is it that causes us to not see that, to look at a routine and go like, I want more or I want to build a button out. So let me throw more on.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Is that why? Because there's nothing else that's like that. I mean, it's a general rule that tends to work not always, but it tends to work. I think people hit the wall in a lot of ways with that. Like at some point, they start to work too much or they start to do too much in other areas. But with fitness, I mean, it's the same thing. I think part of it is that we don't know there's a sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So we tend to trend towards what we can tolerate versus what's the best amount. So it's like, this is the best amount. Let me do more. Let me do more, let me do more. And your body can tolerate it, but you're getting less and less results. And then when you get less results, you think more is the answer.
Starting point is 00:23:52 The other thing is I think people don't realize that cumulative volume matters, not necessarily just specific volume. So it's like, well, my whole body can handle all this exercise, and I think my glutes can handle more. So I'm just gonna add more to my glutes. But it all adds up. It all adds up and then your body can't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And people are just impatient, of course. Of course. And that's really what drives it. Because they want to see in a short condensed window, you know, how much they can move the needle and transform their body in a certain direction. The sustainability conversation is a really tough one to have with your average person because, you know, it's not on the forefront, it's not on their top of mind while they're like, you know, in this motivated state where they are taking on this pursuit and they want to see
Starting point is 00:24:43 results as fast as possible. I'll do anything. I'm going to add this, I mean, this and this. It's all the adding game. And it's tough because then you're in a position then where you got to sort of talk them back down and figure out now what do we do now that we've actually done this too much. And now we have to basically deconstruct that and find a better plan that'll be more sustainable.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah, targeting specific areas with training is a programming, what I mean by that programming is like a workout design problem, and it can be solved. Most people don't understand it. They just think targets area, do more for that area. That solves the problem. That's not how it works. So anyway, my point with this is, when you get to this point where you're generally getting
Starting point is 00:25:32 stronger, really starting to improve the balls rolling, you're going to, most people are going to get to a point where they're going to want to target specific areas. Don't just add work to the specific areas. Look at your total work, take some away from other areas that are doing great, not don't work them out, but if your shoulders are responding really well and you're doing 12 sets a week for them or something like that, and you want to add some to, let's say, your quads, you could take some away from your
Starting point is 00:25:59 shoulders. They're not going to decline. It requires very little to maintain what you built, by the way. So whatever you built with strength training, once you're there and you want to maintain, you could reduce way down the volume and you'll keep it. Studies are very clear on this. You take some away, add it to the southern area. That's generally what you want to do. It can get, you know, it's more specific than that with good programming, but generally, that's the biggest mistake I would say people make.
Starting point is 00:26:20 But if you do it right, you'll be able to shape and sculpt your body like a sculptor. Use as a piece of clay or a piece of marble, which is kind of cool. The next thing is to really learn how to do more with less. This is where everybody gets stuck because everybody thinks more is better, more is better. That's not true, more is more, more is not better. It's not better. It's better at first when you do it right, and then it stops becoming better, and then it becomes better as better. So you want to learn, especially with consistency, because here's the hardest thing for busy moms is to get started.
Starting point is 00:26:56 The second hardest thing is to keep it going once they do get started, because it's a high-fail rate. It's a very high-fail. Like everybody does it for five to six months, but nobody maintains it for a year, two years, three years, and beyond. So you really want to figure out how to do more with less, less equipment, less time, less volume, and less frequency. How do you do this? Make the workout as effective as possible. And I want to be clear, effective is not hard. Every time I say make it work out more effective, the average person thinks, oh, I just got to make it harder and get more sore.
Starting point is 00:27:29 No, no, no, no, no. Intensities of factor, how sore you get, how tired and sweaty you get is a factor. But that does not indicate effectiveness. If it was, then any idiot could be a coach or a trainer, and everybody could get in shape by just going and running in place as hard as they could or jumping up and down as fast as they could, right?
Starting point is 00:27:47 Cause that's hard and that makes you sweat. No, no, no. Figure out how to do more or less and really start to learn how to fine tune your workout. Really, it's like any job that you do, when you're doing a job, you start to figure out how to use tools to make yourself more efficient. You could dig a hole with a spoon.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It definitely could happen, would take you a long time, but man, you start to figure out how to use a shovel. Now you're doing a lot of work with way less time. So do more with less that way, you can maintain this on a much more regular basis because what you don't wanna do is do less with more and then it get interrupted
Starting point is 00:28:24 because it will get interrupted because you have kids. That's the other thing too, that's a point that I even put up here is expect that. Expect you're not gonna make every single workout because again, like I said at the beginning of the episode, kids are super unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:28:38 They're gonna get sick, you're gonna have to do something whatever. So doing more with less means, there's less to screw up because you're just far more. I think that's probably one of the best ways to define what maps and a bulk is to me. Yeah. I mean, it's really the most simple program that we have as far as the amount of exercises that are chosen to build that, right? And that was something that I communicated Katrina
Starting point is 00:29:04 when we were going through this process with her after max And that was like listen I know there's gonna be days when things don't align and you can't get a full workout in you know pick the big one of the big Five out of there is every day. There is a one of those big movements in a map Santa ball And so I said doesn't matter what day you're on what about that if you you know It's already prioritized for you in the order that we want you to follow it. So knock out the big movement first. And if that's all you get, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You doing a good compound lift, one of the big five, meaning the overhead press, the squat, the deadlift, the bench press, or a row. Like one of those movements is a good, you hit so much of the body in just that one movement that you take five exercises to equal one of them. Right. And so it's like, it's okay. It's okay that you do that.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I mean, that's again, this is how Maps 15 was kind of born. It's literally take two of the big movements today is all you're really doing in that entire routine. But those give you so much return. And I think so many, and I'm guilty of this too, as a young trainer of over complicating the process of getting in shape and realizing like, God, if I just made it like routine
Starting point is 00:30:10 that I never missed these big lifts, like if you just hit every big lift one time a week, you'd be surprised how healthy, fit, and strong of a body you would have. I had a class from that. That we did just that. Because their life was so crazy, we did just that. And I had to convince them
Starting point is 00:30:27 that that would be effective at first because they're like, this isn't gonna work. And I would tell them, I actually had one lady, I just remembered, just one of those memories that you just pop up that you forgot. I had a client that I had to convince of that. And the way I convinced her was I said, look, if you don't get value out of doing that,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'll refund you. I never tell this to people because so much is dependent on the client that, you know, you end up losing money because clients, they're not showing up, they're not doing the work. So it's always on them, right? But I told her, I'll refund you. As long as we do this, if you don't get the value out, and afterwards she was like, I did not believe you.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I did not think it would work. In fact, I was doing this to prove you wrong, and I can't believe how my body's progressing. And it's because it's effective. We're focusing on what is effective. Now, that takes us to the next point, which is when time does permit, add volume and add the time that you are working out. And now this is going to have been flow. This isn't just, you know, over time, I've been working out for years so now I can do more and I have to do more to get more results type of deal. That's true also. I mean when I say this that there are gonna be those times
Starting point is 00:31:33 when you put your kid down, they normally nap for an hour. They're down for, wow, they're still sleeping. I'm gonna add some more exercises or some more mobility. Or, hey, grandma is taking the kids today, or hey, you know, they're with the other parent or whatever, I got more time. This is when time permits, you can add, now don't, here's, I do also wanna be clear,
Starting point is 00:31:56 don't just add junk volume and junk exercises. Don't stick with the big guns. Yes, do good workout programming, have it organized so that when the time does permit, here's what I'm going to do, and then boom, you get this incredible result from doing so. So when you add that time and that volume when time permits, you reap the benefits of it, not just the fact that you're moving more, but you're actually moving towards, this goal. And I think that's why it's important in the previous point that you look at it.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And yes, it's simplistic and you're doing, it seems like you're doing less, but really you can approach that too with doing more, but what you're doing is you're sharpening and honing in on the skill of that lift, which then recruits more muscle fibers, which then makes you more effective at that lift, which then recruits more muscle fibers, which then makes you more effective at that lift, which then you can carry that into now if I'm going to add more
Starting point is 00:32:51 exercising to my workout. I'm already super effective here, and then I just add a little bit more now at this point because I'm good at this, that it's all going to move the needle still. It's not just wasted effort. Right. that it's all gonna move the needle still. It's not just wasted effort. You know, it was really interesting. The experience that Katrina had, like, you know, using this philosophy, it was a bit serendipitous the way it panned out for her
Starting point is 00:33:13 because she ended up getting these great results from it and I remember us communicating about it and going like, you know, maybe what's happening is that you had to experience it. Well, not only that, but like, when you had these days where you had the 90 minutes or so on today, it was like, it also aligned with your stress levels and rest levels.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You all said, had more time to work out because the baby got more sleep or maybe I relieved you or at that, so then you could get after it at the workout. You could increase volume or increase intensity a little bit. And then days when it was a little more hectic and stressful, maybe you just did a little bit of mobility or 15 minutes or 20 minutes of working out, was kind of interesting how kind of just giving yourself
Starting point is 00:33:50 that freedom to say, I don't have to have this perfect structure every single day, and it's a failure if I don't finish it or do this, it's just that, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ebb and flow with my lifestyle, with my stress levels, with my sleep, with the baby's sleep, and then just give myself that permission to go on and do one exercise on some days.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And then days, when I feel great and rested and someone else has a baby or I come home early or something like, I'm gonna get after it. And it was kind of interesting. It really forced her, I think, to instead of, because she's an ex-athlete, right? So she has that athletic mindset where, if you tell her what to do, like, I think, to instead of like, she was, she's an ex-athlete, right? So she has that athletic mindset where if you tell her what to do, like, I'll do it. And she'll, like, muscle her
Starting point is 00:34:30 way through it, where when we were going through this process together and she was asking me, well, what do I do? I was, a lot of the conversation sounds like this conversation we're having now, was I was saying, be like water. Yeah, it was, be like water. You know, feel how you're feeling today and really go off of that and learn how to listen to your body, pay attention to your rest, pay attention to your stress levels, and then here's all these different things that you know are supporting you or helping you towards your pursuit, learn to pick and choose when to throw, and it just worked. This is the beauty, but also the challenge of strength training. The beauty of strength training
Starting point is 00:35:05 is it's so effective. There's no form of exercise that's as effective on a time for time basis, right? When you're comparing direct time, 60 minutes of strength training, 60 minutes of cardio, 60 minutes of strength training, 60 minutes of any of the form of exercise, when it comes to sculpting the body, speed up the metabolism, burning body fat, and just getting results, okay? Strength training is super effective. The beauty of strength training is it's the most individualizable, I should say, form of exercise. I can take it and mold it and shape it to anybody,
Starting point is 00:35:40 anybody's schedule. It's almost a formless form of exercise in that sense. It's amazing. Now here's the challenge of that. The average person's like, well what do I do? If I got this infinite number of ways to modify this and follow this pro, you know, workouts and I know exercises, but you're telling me I got to put them together in a particular way and sometimes I'm working less, sometimes I'm working out more, sometimes I don't have equipment, sometimes I do have equipment, like what do I do? This was the value that we brought as personal trainers
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