Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2083: Why Increasing Strength Doesn't Always Increase Muscle Mass, the Importance of Hitting Calorie Vs. Hitting Protein Targets When Cutting, the Best Way to Run for Cardiovascular Health & More

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: Consistency BEATS hard! (2:11) Take the MAPS leap for $5 a month! (5:30) Did scientists accidentally create an anti-addiction drug? (9:08) Nature is messed up. (19:09) Is this the future of inside trading? (23:19) The pros/cons of AI regulation. (25:02) The top causes of death for bodybuilders. (30:50) Video killed the radio star. (35:12) Kids say the darndest things. (39:32) Parent hacks with managing screen time. (43:33) When you know you are a boomer. (48:27) Why eating grass-fed vs. grain fed meat may lower your inflammation levels.(54:29) Vuori is EVERYWHERE! (57:09) Here’s why bands DO NOT cause as much muscle damage as other forms of training. (58:32) Shout out to the Mind Pump Newsletter. (59:54) #Quah question #1 - Can you use light weights (instead of bands) for trigger sessions? (1:01:32) #Quah question #2 - While in a cut, is it better to hit your protein for the day or stay within your calories? (1:03:59) #Quah question #3 - Can you increase strength but not muscle mass? Likewise, is it possible to gain muscle in one body part and lose muscle in others? A recent dexa showed I lost muscle in my trunk but gained elsewhere. Does not make sense to me. (1:08:07) #Quah question #4 - Are you better off running a mile a day or 3-5 miles a couple times a week? (without having any race goals, only leisure) Which would be more beneficial for cardiovascular health and lower impact on joints? (1:11:01) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! LAUNCH SPECIAL: MAPS Bands, Retail for $97, with $30 off during the launch. The public price is $67. Includes 2 E-Books: Bonus #1: Ultimate Bodyweight Training Guide (Retail: $47), Bonus #2: Quick Meals for Health; Fitness (Retail: $47). Money back guarantee, Ends Sunday, May 28th. **Coupon Code BANDS30 at checkout** May Promotion: MAPS Prime or MAPS Prime Pro or the Prime Bundle 50% off! **Code MAY50 at checkout** Mind Pump #2052: Chalene Johnson: Female Fitness Mogul Could Ozempic Also Be an Anti-addiction Drug? - The Atlantic Mind Pump #2017: The Best Peptides For Fat Loss With Dr. William Seeds Mind Pump gives away free bloodwork to four lucky people a month! TRANSCEND your goals! Mind Pump Hormones Facebook Private Forum A restaurant in Maine is trying to get its lobsters high | Mashable Fake viral images of an explosion at the Pentagon were probably created by AI Sam Altman: CEO of OpenAI calls for US to regulate artificial intelligence 12 Statistics About The Leading Bodybuilder Causes Of Death MIDWESTLAWNCAREDADSWHOSMASHBREWS (EGG EGGLY)-Bilmuri Year of The Ox I, take me, to love forever: Some women are marrying themselves, complete with white dresses, cakes, and lavish parties Mind Pump #2020: The Truth About Inflammation With Dr. Stephen Cabral Food, We Need To Talk Mind Pump #2080: Get Jacked With Bands! Mind Pump Newsletter Visit The Cold Plunge for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump Listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for $150 off your order** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Chalene Johnson (@chalenejohnson) Instagram Mind Pump (@mindpumpmedia) Instagram Nature Is Metal (@natureismetal) Instagram Jon Call (@jujimufu) Instagram Harry Mack (@harrymack) Instagram Dr. Stephen Cabral (@stephencabral) Instagram 𝔽𝕆𝕆𝔻 𝕎𝔼 ℕ𝔼𝔼𝔻 𝕋𝕆 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂 (@foodweneedtotalk) Instagram  

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So when you want to get great results, be consistent. Consistency is much better than going to the gym occasionally and beating the crap out of yourself. And if you look at your routine over the last year, you probably did that. So instead of going to the gym and hammering yourself and then taking time off or whatever, just be consistent. Even if the consistent workouts are easier or not perfect, they're superior because they're done consistently. What do you think that what do you think is the reason or the main reason why people seem to think the opposite is true, right? Like why do we continue to seek out these like

punishing workouts that I feel crippling sore the next day? Like what was it about that that made us keep chasing that? Do you think that people really believe that that's the best indicator for it being a valuable or good workout. Do you think that's just still a prevailing myth? Yeah, I think that's still there. Yeah, I think that's what's average. It's a gauge, right? In social media, that's what you see, and that's what's glorified.

And I think people overestimate the effects of a single workout. So they're like, oh, I'm gonna get a workout in. So if I just beat the crap out of myself, it's gonna be so much more effective than an easy workout. Now the truth is, if it's appropriate, by the way, because oftentimes, super hard workouts inappropriate, but even if it's appropriate, it's only a little bit better

than an easier workout. It's not a huge difference. The difference adds up over time. The cumulative effects are what make effective hard workouts much more effective than let's say effective easy workouts. Again, all of them being appropriate. So if you had to choose between being consistent and being inconsistent but working out super hard,

even with appropriate workouts, even done properly, the consistent workouts are gonna be much more effective. Cumulative, it just makes more sense. Yeah, do you think people are just confused with how long it really takes to build muscle? Totally. In general, like thinking that they could do

this like mad sprint and rush to get there, like I'm just gonna get there as quick as I can by adding more things. People do this with diet too. They think they overestimate the damage and the success they can have with an extreme day of eating, right, like late so bad, you know, on Thanksgiving, that's gonna make me gain so much weight.

No, no, no, your 30 pound weight gain was this just a little bit more calories than you are, then you should be eating on a daily basis cumulatively over time. One day isn't gonna cause that much damage. Same thing with the workout. So, and you know, the way I would communicate this to clients was I would tell them, when you go to the gym,

practice your exercises. And you should feel more energy at the end of your workout than you did in the beginning. And really what that did is it encouraged appropriate training, but it also encouraged consistency because, if your idea is that you need to beat the crap out of yourself, when you go to the gym, you're more likely to skip the gym on those days where you're tired or stressed.

Like, I don't feel like going crazy in the gym when I'm tired or stressed or didn't get great sleep. But if I know that I'm going to go to the gym and train in a way where I'm practicing the exercises, train in a way where I'm going to have more energy, well, then I'm going to be more appropriate and more consistent with my workout. So it's just far more important that your consistent versus just training hard. This is by the way why we got convinced in one of our good friends in the fitness space, Shaline, what's her last name, Johnson? She's been doing this for a long time and we sat down, so we interviewed her. That was a great podcast and she's really smart with fitness business.

And she goes, why don't you guys have a model where people can have a really low cost to access some of your workouts or your programs or, you know, exercises. And we're like, well, we're against it because we like complete programs and we want people to do, you know, the full right workout. Most effective way possible. And she's like, there's a lot of people that just don't want to take that big step, right? That step of buying a hundred dollar program,

but they would do a really low monthly fee where you have access to at least workouts that are done properly. And then at least they're consistent and they'll at least do something and do something right. And all of us were like, yeah, you're right. That's totally true. This is why we created the, if you go to Instagram,

I don't think we've talked about this, have we? Maybe once. No. Yeah, I don't think we've talked about it in an intro. Just alluded to it a few times. So we've never done this before. And we were opposed to it. And I think we were opposed to it for the right reasons,

but in reality, we might have hurt. We might have not reached as many people. Had we done this. So you can go to Instagram, or Instagram page, my pump media, you can now pay less than $5 a month. And every single week, you get a workout. You get workouts. Every single week updated, they're all gonna come from

maps, programs, justins, putting it together. It's really, really nice. So you'll have workouts and it's a super low cost. It's like I said, it's under $5 a month and you get good workouts and it's a super low cost. I guess that's under $5 a month and you get good workouts and good demonstrations of technique and form, done by us. And we think that'll help those people who are always on the borderline who don't take that leap

into getting good workout programming who are just kind of like whatever. Where do you go? Yeah, or you just are kind of curious as to like some of the programming and workouts and some of our other programs and just get like a taste for it. Down the road will be kind of like introducing some of those workouts and concepts.

Just so that way you can kind of get a good assortment of options there and like see if it's, you know, a direction you want to go. Or what I think is the biggest thing is that, and we've learned this lesson already multiple times in this business. And so it's kind of ironic that we didn't piece this together is people don't leave the platform

that they use. It's so wild to me how this behavior is, like, and we're all guilty of this. Like, if you consume content on YouTube, it's like you want all of your stuff on YouTube. If you consume your stuff on Instagram, you want all of it on Instagram. And so we have a large Instagram following

and we haven't really created anything that cater specifically just to that audience. So to be interesting to see how that does, just for that reason alone, because I know there's a lot of people that you know how they get their workouts They have a famous Influencer that they follow and they just watch what they do

That's the other part of it. It's like mirror and mimic them Yeah, that's the other part of it. Shaline is like do you really want them to get their fitness information from these crappy influencers? I like no, I mean it can now you're talking. Yeah, so now let's leave now Let's give people an option where they don't have to buy our program and they have access to a new workout every week By the way, this is a trainer hack if you're a trainer and you're talking. Yeah, so now let's give people an option where they don't have to buy our program and they have access to a new workout every week. By the way, this is a trainer hack. If you're a trainer and you're watching this, like wouldn't easy way,

because you often have as a trainer, especially in the beginning, one of the challenges is like coming up with workouts and how to demonstrate certain exercises and cues and all that stuff. Well now you have us teaching you on Instagram and you could just follow along, basically, and you got stuff you could do with people. Anyway, now you have us teaching you on Instagram and you could just follow along basically and you got stuff You could do with people anyway. Did you guys see what they're saying about the GL? I think it's called GLP1

inhibitors or agonist OZemic and all those So if you guys heard the term now, this is coming out in the media. OZEMPIC face. OZEMPIC face. Call those ZEMPIC face. There's a face that goes with it. So this is so funny. Media is hilarious with how they distort and twist things.

So they're like more and more people are going to their doctors after using OZEMPIC. And their doctors are noticing something called OZEMPIC face where their skin is a little saggy and they're looking like skin is a little saggy, and they're looking like they're a little more gone, or I'm like, yeah, cause they lost weight. They lost body fat, that's what happens. You store body fat in your face as well, and just like the rest of your body,

you start to lose body fat, especially if it's a lot, then you'll notice that, and more fat in your face does make your face look fuller and less wrinkles. And so it's a great way to get people to click into that's what you're gonna talk about. Oh, I thought you were gonna talk about something else. No.

So there's something that I wish I could recall where, who I heard talk about this first, but what they're starting to find right now, this is actually a positive thing related to it. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Is that people are quitting other behaviors. Yes. So these people that are taking smoking,

smoking, damning, all these other behaviors. Because of kind of, yes. Which makes sense, right? Because it's kind of like one of those things, all or nothing with people,

it's like, oh, fuck it, I'm not eating well. So I'm smoking my cigarettes too. I'm doing all these other things. We're now that I'm refraining, and I have discipline in my life, and I'm not making these bad choices food wise, and I'm restricting there. I'm doing all these other things. We're now that I'm refraining and I have discipline in my life and I'm not making these bad choices food-wise and I'm restricting there. I'm also restricting other bad behaviors in my life.

So I'm gonna disagree with you. Okay, here's why. Okay, here's why. So by the way, the title of the Atlantic is That's where it was at. Did scientists accidentally invent an anti-addiction drug? By the way, the drug name,

Ozentpix the brand name is Semiglutide. And these are all these Doug confirms for GLP1 agonist. I think there's this class of drugs. His Pfizer just came out with a second phase trial of their own that's coming out that shows similar results. They're all very similar. They want to get in on the money act. Here's what I think's happening, bro.

If you are changing nutrition through discipline and structure and behavior changing, then it can make sense that they would also change other things. By the way, sometimes people do the opposite. They take away the food, but then other habits come up like smoking and stuff because they're not dealing with the reclaws. When they are feeling that they have to restrict

and they're holding back versus when they appetite they appetite suppress and they don't have it. Different. Well, I may be, but although I think there may be something happening in the brain. I do. I do. I think that there's a mechanism, I'm speculating, okay, so I don't know, that this similar mechanism that triggers people to eat when they're stressed or

anxious or bored also gets people to do other types of impulsive behaviors. And that may be kind of what's happening. So it reduces all impulsive behavior. Well, I think that's what that article alludes to. That's what it alludes to. Yeah, I believe that's what that, that's what it's basically saying is that it's, I think it's helping with just impulsive behaviors all together.

So I mean, nonetheless, regardless if there is a direct correlation, here's a great example of a direct causation from it, if there's any sort of correlation with that, there's some value there. I mean, shit, if that, if you end up taking this as a way to keep yourself from, you know, munching on chips and stuff like that, and then you also stop smoking cigarettes or byproduct.

Yeah, stop biting your nails, we're gonna be doing that so crazy. I mean, super interesting, right? If it's not biting your nails, right? Yeah, that's so crazy. I mean, super interesting, right? If it's just anecdot or whatever, like that's a byproduct of what's happening. You know, I've been asked a lot about this and I've actually gone back and forth with some people, some other health and fitness people

in DMs and stuff like that. Like, and I don't know where I land on this completely, right? Like, we always talk about going all natural the healthy way I was gonna promote that first right and if you take something like this and let's say it does Lose you a bunch of weight if you don't address the root cause of how that weight gain happen It's just gonna end up coming back or you can exchange that for another behavior But you're we're seeing some crazy results and I'm wondering that, you know, even if it doesn't necessarily address the root cause

with some of these people, if it gets them moving in the right direction, and then they then address that. Yeah, and I imagine too, like I was actually, it's interesting you brought up, was in it because I was talking to my friend about it. And like, I was hanging out with them

and they put on a substantial amount of weight since I'd seen him over the years and you know we're asking me kind of advice and this and that and the other like my friends a big dude like he's he got up to like 400 something pounds down. He's like you know he's 6'8 and so he's like he's filled out but he's he's a big big guy and I'm just like I know how many times he's worked his ass off to get down to like 360 till I get down to 350 and it's just been like torture for him, right? And he goes back if fourth and like he'll try this crash thing, you know, do and to get something that sort of at least gives him like, you know Bit of a win that like he can start feeling that again, it's the craving part of that too, and the impulsiveness of the whole.

Yeah, I look, none of us here are absolutists with natural, right? I think you go too extreme there. I think Western medicine has lots of value. Look, this is how I feel about anxiety medications. Are there things you could do to reduce anxiety naturally, like exercise, meditate, sleep, morgue, it's sunshine? Yes, but sometimes it's so bad that you need to bridge the gap with a medication to help you do.

Right. If it's so debilitating, you're not going to take action towards the root cause and what's the point. That happens with depression, happens with anxiety, and it can happen with someone's behaviors around nutrition. If this is something you struggle with your entire life or just, it's just really hard for you for whatever, like these peptides can help. Now, I don't think it's the answer.

See, that's right. It is not the long-term answer. No, no, but they're showing to be very effective bridges in adjuv- right? So you can use it in addition to exercising properly, working on your relationship with food, and it may help you, and it's showing this. Now, I've never trained a client who's used these

because they didn't exist, but, you know, back when we this. Now, I've never trained a client who's used these because they didn't exist, but back when we were training clients, but if I trained clients today, that's exactly what I would do. I would have them use that if this was something that they struggle with, but then we would also look at all the other things that we talk about on the show,

and eventually look at, okay, can we get you off this? Now that we've developed these behaviors and habits and now that you're here, and I think that will increase the success rate if you do it properly. Yeah, and I think too, like the real obese, like the morbidly obese, like where it's just like, you know, if we can just get some momentum form, you know, if we could at least just get that initial energy back into like, okay, you know, I actually, I'm seeing things happen

and then transition them into the healthy behaviors and the better food choices and the lifestyle of the whole thing. At least if we can grab their attention. I think the part that I wrestle with or why I have a hard time deciding on where I land on it is because I also recognize speaking positively about it and promoting it, the amount of people that are probably going to abuse it

or use it and they shouldn't use it. It's always the wrong category of people. Right. So there's, it comes with this communication around, okay, this is one step in the direction of us fixing these issues. And if it's an intervention versus like, oh, this is the answer to me being fat. This is why who you go to and work with makes all the difference in the world.

Do you go to a doctor that writes your prescription and then ways you or are you going like mphormones.com? mphormones.com are people there work with these GLP1 agonists like semi-glutite, so you can get it there. But also, this is a company we work with these GLP1 agonists, like semi-gluteites, so you can get it there, but also as a company we work with. So they're gonna talk about things with you like, by the way, this is gonna make you eat less, make sure you hit your protein targets,

because otherwise you'll lose muscle as well as by fat. By the way, make sure you do strength training, so you can maintain a fast metabolism, otherwise your body will adapt, and like through the muscle loss process. By the way, here's some other people you can work with to help you develop those better relationships. So it makes a huge difference who you work with. Yeah, no, I mean, I like the fact that's why I'm okay with us promoting and talking about things that this is because we have this private forum that is coupled with that

because the conversation doesn't end there. It doesn't end with, hey, go take this and this will solve this problem. I definitely don't want to message that. Because this is some of the concern that some of the coaches and trainers have heard that have come out to me, oh man, my company that I work for is now promoting ozimpic and they're in the for fat loss. And I just, where do you guys stand on that? Are you guys antennas like, well, you know, it's not as it's not black and white. It's not this like it's all about how you use it. Yeah.

I mean, you've heard us talk about shakes. Like I used to get frustrated with the doctors that would put these people on these, more of the obese people with three shakes a day, right? Okay, well, there's two sides of this, right? One, I don't agree with that, right? That person's gonna go back and it's not gonna work, it's gonna work, but that person is so bad,

they're gonna die from obesity. If we don't either do the gastric bypass on them. Yeah, I have to do something radical to get that off. So then we can at least like get some breathing room to then talk about, hey, let's work on this and approach it the better way. Okay, well, then that's a different story. So I had a good success with clients who did that. And it was against my wishes right there coming to me and say, oh, I'm already this doctor

prescribed diet. I'm on the shakes thing. You know, that was a thing there for a second. I think it was like a few thousand like people were doing that. And I would let them know why I didn't necessarily like it. However, I would work with them and say, look, here the challenge is not going to be

while you're doing that. The challenge is when you're done, but I'm glad you're with me. I'm going to walk you through the process of what that looks like. And I had decent success. Had they not had that coaching, I mean, the success rate would have been dismal.

Like it is, the data shows. The success rate to be absolutely terrible. Yeah, I got some stuff. Yeah, I got something for you guys. So you remember, I don't know how many episodes back this was, we were talking about, and I don't know how we got here, but we were talking about animals being stressed, you know, and how that could affect the meat.

Yeah, like in a weird- I'll train to zookeeper. Yeah, like, and we're all trained to zookeeper. No, that's not far back. Okay. Yeah, that's way far back. Just that no recently recently, remember recently, and I can't remember how maybe Doug, Andrew remembers, like, how we got to that place. We were talking about lab grilled meat versus, and then

talk about like taking care of animals, we're talking about Kobe beef and like, feel and like feel and stuff like that, right? So check this out, there's a lobster place in Maine that gets the lobsters high before they cook them. What? Because it calms them down. So it brings their stress levels way down before they boil.

Have no other moments of difference in the meat. Yeah, they say it makes a huge difference. Look up lobsters, get lobsters high dug before cooking. So now here's what's interesting about this. Do they basically like see insects though? They're spiders. Yeah, exactly the same. Yeah, but I think something is being pro-clean.

When you're under, you think you're gonna die. So here's my, okay, so I think there's two things. One, having an animal be chronically stressed is different than them being stressed right before they die because is it animal ever not stressed right before they get killed in nature? Yeah, you think it's else like you know, just yeah So high they're too dumb to know it's happening to them They're not they're not as smart as humans are so like you would know like you're getting cooked or you're getting killed

But maybe just just by getting them high. They don't have no idea. I don't know man I wonder if that's a gimmick you know, so they they they they tested this it wasn't just like yeah, yeah So she did they did this whole thing where they were I'm curious to try the difference Rest of my is trying to get lobsters high before cooking them alive So one of the things that they did to test it is so like the lobsters when you put them in a bucket with the lobsters They use their claws to attack and stuff that you get them high. He just chill. Oh They just like hot mocks. Yeah, they, they, they, she put like a little thing, if I, if I understood the article

right, they put it in like a box. Yes. And then they, and they put like a little bit of water so they're kind of hammering and then they, they have a box of shit out of the, out of the, out of the thing. Hey, dude, this is still me. Nice. Right. And this, and this restaurant is like drug or like some of the best lobster, I believe.

That is a cool. I don't know about the taste. I wonder if that's a gimmick, but the fact that they don't claw or whatever. So that's so if you read into these, they're known for like having some of the best lobster over there. That might not be why though, but that's interesting. So I mean, mains known for some of the best lobster. Yeah, that's right. So in general, I think it is an excuse for people to smoke pot and blow it into a lobster box. I think it's cool.

Excuse for people to smoke pot and blow it into a lobster box. I think it's cool Now I think Hey, I want to go to a restaurant that does to do this one see Yeah, I'll give the baby for the doubt So how they kill options thrown a boiling pot of water? They boil them alive, right? Because it's the whole thing. It's like the fresh because you go pick it out and then they like put them right into the boiling water. Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know if it's a slow boil or it's a they drop me. Yeah, rolling boil. So it's already boiling. It's boiling hot. I think you throw it in. Oh, yeah, see that was really screaming. Oh, yeah, I thought it was

a slow boil. No, they didn't. No, I think they just have a rolling boil, like it's like fully boiling and they just talk. Yeah, it's not a very nice thing. Not a humane way to go, for sure. Well, he's supposed to do it. Oh, sure, sure. Mr. High. Yeah. Christy Perry, you have a tasty tool.

I mean, you know what the fuck, nature is messed up, dude. What's that page on Instagram? Nature is metal. Yeah. I love that. I love that. People are like, oh, flowers and daisies. Go. If you've ever seen an animal hunt another ant.

Have you ever seen a survival of a baby? Do you see the last one they had with these two bears fighting for like, I don't know, five minutes? Do you see what they hate? Like, would they hit each other? Yeah. Like, the vibe breaks the- It bites the neck.

I don't know, like, they were just thrashing each other. I love that. I love that IG. I just watched a video where an elephant, there was a huge tree, like roots and everything. It wasn't like a big ass, like a tree. He pushed over like a branch. Oh, he just pushed it and just crushed it.

That's how strong an elephant is. Dude, that's crazy to me. That was crazy. Yeah, that's crazy to me. I have another one for you guys. I thought this was, we've been talking a lot about AI stuff. Yeah. I have another one for you guys that I thought this was we've been talking a lot about AI stuff right so AI images and I AI image

surfaces of The Pentagon taking on an explosion totally fake right someone made it But on the internet drops the S&P 30 points in minutes So the speculation yeah, yeah, just by putting on so. So the speculation is like, this is the future of like inside trading. Oh my God, those fuckers. So they just think of short stocks, drop that, keep it all like, you know,

because a third-knowing drop makes it that. Yeah, 30 point drop within minutes because of that picture was servicing and then it took a minute for people to realize that it was fake. How are we going to control this? I don't know. So I watch an interview and here's a thing that's how that's not controllable is that's

just human behavior. There's people that with they saw the Pentagon get a blow a picture of the and that was news. Before we could verify it. Yeah. Before they would sell. Oh my God. So socks.

This is going to make this whole stock market crash. Maybe when the first one's out. So human behavior is going to that's going to happen all the time. No matter what. I watch an interview with Elon and they ask them about is what, what do you think is the most dangerous things about AI is? And I thought it was to say stuff like it's going to kill us, the weapons, whatever. He goes, no, he goes, AI is going to be able to create articles that are so convincing and twist information so effectively and just completely engulfed social media and all media that it will be able to influence us and manipulate us and we won't even know up from down and I thought

Wow, that is true that has to be the most dangerous Just melt not that terminators are gonna show up and kill us but Kill ourselves and thinking that we're totally without so along those lines., did you hear that they're doing hearings on AI regulation? They're talking about potentially creating a new agency to regulate AI. You know what's crazy about this? That's not a good thing. Well, two things. One, good luck.

You're going to try and regulate. Is this the world forum or is this just our gathering? They're talking about wanting to create a whole new, like the who or what, like that for, the literally for just AI. So a whole new regulatory department. Yeah, so like it would be, the US is doing this, you is already talking about this.

So this is just for the US. But there's two parts, but one, like how, like how are you gonna check that? How are you gonna, and two, this is how companies basically create a moat around themselves. This is how companies come out and be like, oh, we got AI working right now, we think it's really dangerous. We should help you guys regulate that.

And what they do is create regulations to eliminate any potential competition. And what's this face from? Sam working with Google. Sam and Sam Altman. Yeah. Already who's working with Google and so like that. That was a part of this hearing who's like all four. Of course you're right.

We call it regulatory capture. There's actually a term for that by the way, when a new market emerges and those leading the market go to government to create regulations to a limit. Meanwhile, it's gonna be put out in the media like, oh, we need this, so important for our safety and everybody's gonna push it and be all four it. It's gonna happen.

The big dogs are still gonna use it. It's like, that's the thing, the technology there to exist. It's not like it's just gonna be bottled up and you know, put away for everybody. I agree that I also just see it as another massive money pit that our government has to do. So there's another thing that we're gonna spend tons of money or a way that they're gonna start working together.

Like a defense system or something. Yeah, well, this is how they're gonna work together. You're gonna approach, you're gonna need lobbyists now. All of a sudden, you're gonna start working together. Like a defense system or something. Yeah, well, this is how they're gonna work together. You're gonna approach, you're gonna need lobbyists now. All of a sudden, you're gonna need lobbyists to approve your new AI model. And the lobbyists are gonna talk to these politicians and the politicians are gonna say, well, if you make it do this, then we'll approve it.

Or if you let it do that. And what their number one goal is. Cool, more cronism. Yes, it's gonna be to protect the people that vote for them or whatever the jobs. And they're going to say things like, well, if you had these copyright protections or if you protect Hollywood or if you do that, or if you promote this idea, that way I can pass this bill or whatever, it's going to be weird.

But I also don't think you can regulate it. I really don't. Like, how? It's kind of hard to do that. It's so fast-changing. I mean, and it's out. That's the worst part about all this though, because they will pass that.

They will create a regulatory system out of there and a whole new department that's gonna cause a million weight behind to manage and they still won't be able to fully regulate. That's why it's so dumb. It's like you're gonna, they're gonna go through all the, all the money to make that happen and all the bureaucracy and behind the scene,

bullshed hand-shaken and hand jobs. And meanwhile, the money to make that happen in all the bureaucracy and behind the behind the scene bullshit handshake and and hand jobs. And meanwhile, there still will be a massive black market inside that will go around all that stuff. 100%. Yeah, I don't know. I was thinking about this and like because people are comparing AI to nuclear weapons and how we need to regulate it.

You know, nuclear weapons are super dangerous, obviously, but there was that human element where, I mean, that prevented us from destroying the whole world was that there were, because here's what AI could potentially do. Let's say AI controlled all the nukes in the US. It could say, well, if we launch these nukes, they will retaliate and yes, 70% of the world will be destroyed, but more of us will survive. And then over the next 30 years, we'll rebuild and dominate. And it would do with just that simple calculation. Versus a human saying, not worth it, not worth all the death and destruction. I don't think we should do that.

So that's the thing, is that will it have the same discernment, power, the same fear, Or is it just gonna be a numbers game? Well, even now, I mean, isn't the versions we've all seen so far just like chat driven in terms of like what's been written and said and like, you know, it's the collective sort of communication everybody's been inputting on the internet versus it being like some kind of get into your system and like get all the access pass codes and all that stuff. Are we there yet too?

Or is it just right now, it's just the chat bots that they're concerned about? That's all we get. That's what I'm saying. That's what we get. That's all we're being told right now. It's like a sophisticated Google is what we get. The government's already got some crazy shit. Because there's quantum computers and all that, they they say they're gonna roll out like five years

and it's like they're gonna be so much more powerful than any of these chat bots could even hope to be. Yeah, I don't know, man. I saw some articles estimating like 300 million jobs to be replaced in like the very near future. Very near future. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be a radical,

I mean, I already hear it. I hear it. Who was I just talking about? I think it's in my hand. I forgot who a Ham was I just talking about? I think it's in my hand. I forgot who a Hampton group was talking about. I forgot who a Hampton group was talking about. Their company just like cut their team in half. Well, copywriters are gone.

Yes, I mean. They literally cut their team in half. Like copywriters, the amount of engineers and codewriters they need. Like it literally like eliminated like half of them. Like that. Yeah, I don't know, man. You know, they already have emerging,

I don't know what they call it. Like emerging skills, I think't know, man. They already have emerging, I don't know what they call it, like emerging skills, I think is the term, where these AI models, which are designed to do one thing are just without nobody telling it, whatever learning new skills on its own, like teaching itself languages and teaching it. That's what's great about it. Yeah, on its own, emerging, I don't know,

it's called emerging intelligences or skills, emerging skills, but it's on its own trying to learn certain things. So we're, you know, work at that potentially lead. But I mean, try regulating it. It's like, we're here, dude. Yeah. How are you going to shut this down? Like we've discovered fire. No, it won't get, it can't. Yeah, it can't. It's two, it's two, it's two. And even if they do regulate, they'll just a black market will surface for all of them. I'll figure out how to work with it. The best. I don't know, 100%.

Hey, did I tell you guys I read this interesting? I found some statistics online. I got to figure out where I found it so we could post it. But I wanted to see what the top causes of deaths were for bodybuilders, like competitive bodybuilders, because I wanted to see if that extreme pursuit, what damage it causes to the body or whatever, I was just going down this rabbit hole. And what's the most dangerous drugs that they've been doing?

Well, it's just the amount of drugs that they use and the combination of them and the lifestyle. People don't realize that the high-level bodybuilding lifestyle by itself is just not healthy. Bodybuilding is healthy, that lifestyle of bodybuilding lifestyle by itself is just not healthy. Bodybuilding is healthy, that lifestyle of bodybuilding is the conversion. Right. So, as I thought, most of them die a little earlier than the average. Just like most high-level athletes, by the way, a lot of people don't know this, but high-level athleticism is not longevity. There's a price you pay for that level of performance, and bodybuilders know difference. So heart disease was at the top, or heart issues. Obviously, all the drugs that they take, and what they do

with their bodies, stress with the heart, kidney issues, liver issues, here's the trip. Remember, we're talking about competitive bodybuilders who, for all intents and purposes, are not doing things that are healthy to their body. They have much lower rates of cancer than the average person. This just goes to show the protective effects, muscle, and strength training. Of all the forms of exercise you could do, strength training has the most anti-cancer effects.

Muscle has anti-cancer effects. So here you have all these bodybuilders. By the way, a lot of them take a lot of growth hormone. Growth hormone in the presence of tumors will stimulate cancer, right? Yet their cancer rates are lower than the average person, just to go to show you. Kind of crazy, right? It is crazy. Yeah, I found that really interesting.

No, that is really interesting, especially considering that they do die at a younger age and they're abusing a lot of other things, the fact that they're not getting that at a much higher rate. But also, I think shows you how closely linked I think probably cancer is to like obesity in the count back. It's cancers to obesity and lack of muscle. Building muscle is very anti-cancer. And there's a lot of different reasons why, but this is pretty cool stuff.

Well, I mean, I guess when I was alluding to was I've just heard that like as they've evolved and gotten more extreme in that sport, Like they sort of manipulate more with insulin. And that being like something that was like leading towards like a lot of incidents of death. Well, insulin's dangerous. Yeah. You could take a huge dose of testosterone or a huge dose of growth hormone and you're okay.

You take too much insulin one time in your dead. You know, it would be an even more interesting thing for me to see statistics wise with with that is actually if you took Those people and you took them out of bodybuilding if they still would have found a way to earn early death Meaning that oh Meaning that just did just abuse abused like many people that gravitate towards that sport or any Some crazy sports like some extreme something extreme like that that's you know

unhealthy has psychological stuff going on. They have major body dysmorphia going on or they have massive insecurities or they're running from a bad home life that they have going on. They're like pain killers too. Yeah, so they're abusing cocaine and pain killers and all these other stuff.

And so I wonder if you are taking a already broken portion of people and then we're comparing them to the general population. It's like, I wonder if you pulled them out of body building. They would probably still find a way to early death. It might be worse off. I know a lot of people, And I know you do too. I know a lot of people that did the extreme body building side,

but it probably saved their life. Because had they not like on that route, they would have been addicted to worse drugs, hair, hair, hair, and all. Yeah, no. Yeah, funny. Yeah. At least there's a level of discipline there, right?

Where they have to wake up, work out. They go, right, at least have a good workout. So they can't necessarily mess themselves up too much. They avoid other drugs because maybe they'll make me fat or you know, I'm not gonna build a workout type of deal. Interesting, that's a really good observation. Yeah, wouldn't you think that? I mean, from all of our experience

of being around the space that long. Look, I don't necessarily have the healthiest relationship with exercise, much healthier now that it was before, but I still have issues with supplements. If I didn't have that, I know I would be worse off. I know it, I would have a tendency. It'd be something else. It would be something worse,

it's probably what it would be. It was feisty to buy a bill as I saw. It was to hang out with my friends up in trucky and we were watching music videos and kind of comparing contrasting like some bands we found. It was really actually like a, I preferred that to just sit and watch in TV and like veg and out and whatever like it was cool Because now I have this whole new playlist out of never even had before but so this band called like Bill Murray

And it's spelled like B.I.L M U R I or something but the guy it's a really trippy video where he like puts his face on a lot of like viral video people and like, I don't know, it's hard to describe, but it's like a very artsy kind of weird video and then who pops up but, uh, Jujimufu in there. And he's doing his thing and I was like, oh, wow, he made it into like a music video. I think the guy is like all over the place, man. Wow. So, you know what's cool about that?

I was talking with my older kids, my teenage kids about music, and we were listening to music in the car, and I was playing, we were going through playlists, because if my daughter sits in the front, she, all of a sudden, assumes control of everything. Okay, so it's annoying to me, but whatever. So she'll change the music, whatever, and I'm like, honey, stop. Anyway, so we're going back and forth. So then we started conversation, and we went to the 70s playlist. And I said, this is the last decade

of real pure authentic music. And she's like, what do you mean? I said, let me show you. So then I have her pull up her phone. She goes on YouTube. And I said, pull up Led Zeppelin, pull up the Ramones, pull up, you know, all these different artists. And I said, what do you notice about them?

And she's like, I don't know, long hair, whatever. I said, no, are any of them good looking? She's like, no. And I said, you know, all these different artists. And I said, what do you notice about them? And she's like, I don't know, long hair, whatever. So no, are any of them good looking? No. And I said, you know why? That's it? Because in those days, in those days, you didn't know what the artists look like until they were already famous and popular. And you saw them, they had radio face. It was all about the music. It had nothing to do with about the video or their appearance. It was all about the music. And so we were having this conversation and my kids were like, wow, that like video, like music videos and all that stuff totally changed.

So was that the, how's the song go? Video killed, there's a video star. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly right. That's exactly what that means, right? It's so funny. So I, and I, I don't know about you guys, but when I listened to music before music videos, I don't know about you, I can hear it.

I can hear the authentic. I don't know, maybe I'm just being, what are you laughing at? It's true. There's like a funny bias that you have. Yeah, old boomer talking about music right now. Exactly. I mean, because I've been there, but yeah, I mean,

I get it, but there's artists that are still there. It's just, there are fewer and far between, and they're less popular because what becomes popular now is something that looks cool, right? Like the Britney Spears, the 98 degrees, the Backstreet Boys, I mean, that was the beginning of all that stuff, right? We realized like, man, if they can just kind of sing,

but they were hot or had personality, like, oh my God, we could sell the shit out of them. So do you watch MTV? You know? Yeah, no, no. That's like, where do you even find like the stuff that's out there? This is so much underground music.

I guess I was tripping out on the fact that I didn't even know all these bands that existed in all these different genres. I was showing Adam, dude, I was into this Korean, they're like a hip-hop group, these two guys. Yeah, and they're sick. Really? Yeah, and they're sick. Really? Yeah, that's good. I have no idea.

And so you're the ox, I think, is what they're called, but like there's just quite a few different genres of like really interesting, but like not super popular music groups out there that were like, I mean, you just really have to dive deep. Well, you know how they break through now? What now it's like, you break through on YouTube, you gotta prove yourself without being produced

without having record label. Like now, you can find someone who's very talented, who comes up, I mean, you guys have seen me, I was sharing that, what's his name? Is it Harry, and not Harry style? What was the, I know. It's Harry style. It's like Harry something, I remember the guy,

the guy who I showed you guys. Oh, he just flows off of like four or five words that somebody gets a kid that he was named right now is. But I mean, you have an example of someone who went viral from TikTok or YouTube and then becomes famous and is now getting all kinds of deals and stuff like that. So like, yeah, you could find that now.

But if someone's like, produce, like, they target that now. They look for someone who is attractive and you know, you know, that has the personality and it's like, okay, as long as you can somewhat sing, we figured out. Hurry me back. Thank you. Yeah, I see why it's a white.

I gotta tell you guys something so funny that my two year old said to the nanny that my wife was like, huh? And then she figured out what was going on. So the other day, you know, it was hot, we're outside, you know, took my shirt off, he takes the shirt off, we're all just, you know, playing with the water, whatever.

I go inside and my wife, like many wives, like many women, if she sees what even resembles a pimple or a black head, it's her favorite thing to do. I mean, this is definitely a woman thing. Women love this, we've talked about this before, this page is that they follow, where that's only been.

To Dr. Pimple Pover has a TV show now. This is just as popular. This is definitely back to our monkey origins or whatever, right? So anyway, she did that. So that happened the other day. Anyway, today to the nanny, I read this goes, oh, I like it when Mama presses and squeezes

papas nipples. And the nanny's like, what? Oh, yeah, Mama presses and squeezes and falls into the pool. Just kind of, oh, pimples. That's true. Pimples. Pimples. Oh my god.

Let's go. That's a little bit of a difference here. Oh my god. Kids are hilarious. Dude, she took him, she took him camping, oh, not camping, excuse me, hiking. And she wanted him to get it like the full experience. So she brought like a camel back

and did the whole thing, right? And so he wanted his own camel back. So she goes on Amazon, he picks one. It's one for little toddlers, got flames on it. And now he's just wearing it throughout the house. He just walks around the house with the camera. I love the heat. He walks around the flames.

I was like, I was that kid. I'm like, yeah, flames. You're burning. You know, like army or something. Oh, it's so cute. Oh, I know, it's hilarious. But just walk around his, like around the house, you know, he just needs some water.

He pulls his back. I just, I just got some play. Did you see Max had one? Oh, yeah, Max, Max is a Mickey Mouse one. And I remember when he first started wearing it, it was like, throw his balance off because it was like bigger than he was. Yeah, he's still today.

That's like, I think it's the cutest thing ever when he gets, it gets the plan and stuff like that. He loads up a bunch of his toys and his backpack and then he runs around the house and does this thing and then he can get, pulls his backpack off and does it. It's like, he said such a cool age right now. It's so fun. I mean, you're there right now too, where like every week it's like a new something different. Yeah, new sentence that comes out and what always blows my mind is the, when you hear it,

it's like, I've never said that. Or like, where did you hear that? Or how did you, how did you piece that together? You know what I'm saying? Like, we were driving the car last night. And we're like, oh, it's, oh, boy, you got to stay up late. It's like, we were at his, I mean, at Katrina's brother and sister's house,

having dinner and barbecue and so on like that. And so he got to stay up a little bit later. So we're driving home and I'm talking to him in the back seat. And I'm like, oh, you got lucky again, dude. You got to stay up past your bedtime. And he's like, oh, the sun's not down, Dad. I'm just like, I've never said that. You know, the sun's down.

Yeah, like I've just never said that. In front of him, like he's now at that age now where he can start to piece things together himself and put together that. When you see that cognitive like sleep, it's a trip to watch it happen. It's so crazy. And so, you know, I told you guys, Jessica and I are doing these different techniques with the kids. And she does a lot of this. She learns it and then she shows me. And sometimes it's so frustrating because I want to go back to, you know, quote, unquote,

old school style. Like if he throws something at me while I'm playing with the baby, I get really infuriated and I want to tell him, no, or whatever, right? But really what you do is you stop, hey, we don't throw hard things, we throw soft things, did you want my attention? Like type of deal, right? But sometimes I just get upset. So Jessica's always trying to, anyway, it pays off. It takes a while though.

So the first couple of times you do it, he's still throwing shit. So I'm like, listen, right now I want to get old school, just kidding, but she, you know, she, she, you know, she's stay consistent. And sure enough, he did. He was throwing things and then he threw something kind of near us. And I looked at him and he, you know, I said, hey, you know, we, we don't throw hard things around. You can throw them over there. You always, instead of telling what not to do, tell them what to do. So you could throw that over there, type of deal. And he goes, I'm sorry, I just, I just wanted your attention, but, I'm like, what? This two year old just told me, he just wants my attention.

That's why he's throwing a thing. Like crazy self-awareness. Yeah. Right? Yeah, no, that's crazy to that. Oh, man. I told you guys, I think the last time we talked about the kids, I told you the first like challenge, the iPad that I told you guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is now where it's like been a week and a half for whatever, since I talked about that last So we ended up when it we ended the day. I think I talked to you guys was like the day I noticed it like it was the day before what are that We ended up taking the whole week off no iPad whatsoever and it was wild because I'm and I'm so glad we caught this because it was a realization even for us like how quickly you can allow that to creep In and then before you know it and I told you the things that I noticed right away were the behaviors around like he woke up thinking about it.

Like that, like the red light flag for me was that we've trained Max to have like this block in the day where right before dinner, he gets a little, and it's not even every day, but you know, pretty consistent, he can have it around that time for about an hour, right? That we've allowed that. And then recently we have allowed him to play this angry birds game. And that game was so freaking addictive that he was starting to ask for it throughout the other periods of that. And then to the point where you knew, yeah, when he woke up in the morning, I looked at Katrina, I said, Hey, I don't, I don't like that he's thinking about this thing

so much. Like, I don't want it to become that regular in his life. And he's, I want to get it back to like, it's a treat or it's, we have, it has its power to where when we really need it, we can use it. And she of course greed right away. And so I brought that up on the show the next day we took out. And the next day he was like, he would, you could tell you really want it. You know, of course, we, these, these small white lives. You have to deal for like a few days, right? It was actually literally just a day, two days.

The first day was the hardest day. He asked for it and kept asking for it. And we just, oh son, it's not working today. It's broken. We'll fix it. Daddy's gonna fix it. Daddy's gonna fix this. We kept saying it.

So then the next day, daddy fixed the iPad, daddy fixed the iPad. Katrina's like, oh yeah, I know, but we got a charge of social security. Kind of by day three, just not asking about it. Day four didn't even think about it. And his head is like, fucking dad isn't isn't fixing it. That's what you learn. That's good.

Fucking dad can only fix this. A decade changed the light bulb. Can't fix the iPad. Fucking dad. No, you got to do the move. I actually heard about this from one of my friends. He said his friend would literally go around and he would turn like the valve for the toilet and he'd lay all the way off to like the water

was off and so his wife would associate that with it's not working. He'd go, you know, unscrew some light bulbs. Like he'd do some things that were just like really easily manageable. And then and she'd be like, oh my God, like would tell him to like go fix something. But hold on, oh, oh, but I'm doing the toilet right now. I was like, oh, thank you. And he did all these like really easy

Jobs around the house and then she'd forget all about it We started doing we're gonna start doing this thing. I think it was really, really brilliant. Jessica said, hey, at the end of the night, she said, when we put him to bed, let's do a recap of the whole day and talk to him about like, oh, today was so fun. What we did today, we started, we woke up and we did this.

And then what allows you to do is highlight particular lessons or good things or talk about difficult things. So we started doing that. I'll let you guys know how that kind of works out. Yeah, that'll be interesting. Because then what's interesting is things pop up.

So the first night I did it, I did it through telling a story. So I said, you know, the baby tiger and the mama tiger. And basically the baby tiger did everything that he did during the day. And that came, certain challenges came up during the day and I could see his face, you day, and I could see his face, and he's like, oh, what did he do? And I'm kind of teaching him. But next, I think I'm just gonna be like, hey, today, here's what we did today,

and this is what you did. Just to kind of, so I think that's gonna be, oh, you guys know how that's gonna happen. Now, have you guys been, because he's still, obviously, he's a little bit younger than Max, and you're probably coming up though on this age, when I remember we started to introduce the iPad,

and a lot of them to use that and some of that. Have you guys done that and have you noticed any behaviors around that? How do you guys manage that right now? We don't, we only use the iPad for if we're going to drive long distances and I think that's pretty much it. We've only used it a couple times in the lights. We lost power to our TV a couple times, one of our, was something wrong with the fuse box.

But it's mostly TV and we all watch TV, will he watch it? He will, but it's it, we use a timer. And Jessica's really, really consistent about it. So, and if it creeps up, then she takes it away for the whole week. So like this week, no TV. And we'll tell him ahead of time,

hey, I know you're gonna watch TV before bed, but tomorrow and all week, we TV, and we'll tell him ahead of time. Hey, I know, you know, we're gonna watch TV before bed, but tomorrow and all week, we're not gonna watch any TV. We're not gonna watch, and so he woke up this morning, and she texted me, and he says, oh, mama, are we gonna, can I watch something? She says, remember I said, we're not gonna watch TV. So she goes, maybe we will, right? And then he goes, thank you for saying maybe, mama.

That's nice. He even goes, no, you know, you're not gonna watch it. I know. Dude, I saw this thing. I don't know what I think I was watching. Like the Katrina's on this kick right now of watching the matchmakers, because they have like,

they have like an Indian matchmaker. Are you watching the Jewish one? Yeah, the Jewish one. Yeah, we watch them. Yeah, so I've watched all of you. Yeah, I've watched all of you. I've watched the old seasons. They're a new one out or something.

Yeah, these are, these are, I think they're new. Do you know if they're new? Oh. I don't know if the Jewish one is new. I just watched the old seasons. Are they new in outer something? Yeah, these are, I think they're new. Do you know if they're new? I don't know if the Jewish one is new. I just found definitely a watch the show before. I like it because you get to see different takes on marriage. And a lot of it's based on old wisdom. And there's, I think there's lessons you can learn. So I think.

I felt so entertaining. So yeah, I think it's really interesting. So she actually pulled me into watching it. But now I'm getting targeted with all this weird stuff. So funny how these algorithms, I think it's really interesting. So we got she actually pulled me into watching it. And but now I'm getting targeted with all this weird stuff. You know, so funny how these algorithms, I'm so aware of how they all work. Now, like the type of content I see now because I've watched, I've binge watched three

of these different matchmaker things. Yeah, so there's this thing, this trend, this hit me on social, I think is where it hit me after I was watching these shows. Self-love weddings. Have you heard of this? You may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or you may or Dude, our people are embarrassed anymore They're proud of these things. You would a great point. We make people embarrassed again Well, you know, it's so logamy. There's no But it's a long there's a name for it. Yeah, what do you that means you're just lonely solo? Gami like so logamy like monogamy. Yeah, so basically it means you just you're just lonely means you go fuck yourself

What do you see Andrew you see something. I see that it's just women Oh, just women women don't want to admit don't want to do Well, you hold on Sologamy or self marriage is a symbolic ceremony where you commit to maintaining a meaningful deep and loving relationship with yourself It's a commitment to yourself and not necessarily, okay, so we got it wrong. It doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna single or sell a bit. Now why the ceremony?

It's like, why, I don't understand. The narcissistic part, you pointed out. Yeah. You understand? Hey, I'm doing this thing, you guys wanna come to my party? Well, because we're at least celebrating the self-love movement, it's been such a big movement in the last decade and a half, right?

So it's like, if you wanna bring like your friends, family, community in and support you. It's another massive virtue signal is what it is. Just another way like, I'm self-loving. I'm self-loving so much I threw a wedding for myself. Yeah. You think you're self-loving? Watch me self-love.

I mean, what happened to just getting a few more cats? Hold on a second. Some women are marrying themselves complete with white dresses, cakes and lavish parties. Yes. That's what I saw. I actually saw like full on inviting people and the ceremony and everything. I got I just don't need the saddest thing in everything. Here's the difference between men and women women are throwing this. The dudes are going to do salogamy bachelor party. Get bachelor party. Guys, get the ceremony. I sort of do the bachelor party. Hey guys, I'm going to be getting married myself. It's not a party. Don't worry.

I tell my wife. I'm going to throw the bachelor party. Hey guys, I'm gonna begin married myself. It's not a party. Don't wear this myself. I'm gonna throw the bathroom. We're going to Vegas next week. And we're doing this whole self-love thing. I'd almost rather go to a ceremony where they're marrying a robot, you know? That is hell. That is next to you.

Like at least that's almost, you know, something. You know, I definitely, we are a bunch of fucking boomers, bro. There's so much stuff, like terms and stuff that I'm like, so Zaddy, you know what Zaddy is. Let me guess, that's something to do with being a daddy, but you're hot. Yeah, kind of. I mean, you guys are on the right track.

So pull it up because to me, it sounded like a sugar daddy, but you don't need to have money in order to be a Zaddy. It's just like an older, good looking guy. It's like Dils of Disneyland. Oh, it's a, it's a's a daddy's an attractive older man. A daddy is a man with swag who is attractive and also fashionable. Okay. That's all I was saying. So it's a it's better than a daddy. I see. Yeah. It says. Okay. I see what's happening. So you got good fashion too. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I learned to say that the joy the joe koi standup that I

went to and I was like he was going on this whole bit about Zaddies. And I'm like, I am so like, I mean, out luckily that like sugar daddy, like transferred into the joke. So like it made the, like this, string of jokes, figure it out. Yeah, that was like, it's something like that. But afterwards, afterwards, I don't look it up.

Cause I'm like, I've never heard of this before. Two of them, every talking about like sugar babies was like a whole thing, right? And so they were like promoting themselves like in their bio as a sugar baby. So that way people could give them money. Stupid. Did you talking to my sister-in-law?

Okay, she's in her 50s and she's on like these like single dating apps and stuff. And she was telling, last night she was telling me, she's like, Adam, you would be so surprised at the weird ass shit that I get like, listen, she goes, I made $200 yesterday. Well, I know, what did she do? She goes, I stepped on a banana barefoot.

She got paid $200. I like I said, just a little while. Your family's listening. Bro, she told the family, we were all there together. That's her first introduction. You know what I wanna try about it? You know what I'm saying? I told her, I'm like, well, shit, I'd fucking step on a banana

for 200 bucks. Can I just say this? Like, men are just like, there's something weird. That's probably a dude. Yeah. Like just, it makes a step up from a fart in a jar. Sure. Yeah.

Is that a weird? Is that weird? I mean, we're weird, dude. We're weird animals. It's probably why cause the squ step on a banana. We're weird, dude. We're weird animals. It's probably why cause the squishes between the toes or something? Yeah, probably.

No idea, dude. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. What a weird world. I thought, what is happening? 200 bucks, so I'm like, dude, that's a come-up right there.

I'm like, like, three seconds of work? What's the profit on? How much does a banana cost? Yeah. Yeah. Three cents. The margins on that are insane. Yeah, dude.

Build a whole only fan fans page off of that. I'll smash all kinds of bananas for that. I'm gonna start throwing that in my story. See what happens. Just a few people will pay you money to not do it. Just stop smashing bananas. I'll send you two another one. Yeah.

See the hammer toast. Just one of us horrible noises while you do it. I don't want just the clavetry with his toes. Oh, dude. That grip, good. Dude. Oh, my God. That's a whole green. Hey, we have butcher box there.

Oh, no, I want to tell you guys something. I think for reminding me, I want to tell you guys something. So I went for two days, so I ate a lot of red meat. For two days, we bought these big ass tritips and they were not gross. They were not butcher box. They were just regular store ones. And I like the way they taste and whatever. Eight a whole bunch of it, right?

Throughout the day, because we made so much, every meal was try tip. I could tell a distinct difference in my inflammation. From that versus the, because the majority of my order now with butcher box is the grass fed try tips. I like try tips, the versatile, easy to cook. I told you guys how we make them.

We do the cast iron that we put in the oven. And I noticed a difference in my joints, the stiffness and stuff. And it makes sense when I did the test with Dr. Cabral, my inflammation was a little high. And the fatty acid profile is just better, I could feel it. I could feel it.

I've been changing my box up to be more pork since I get the whole the pork chops that you talked about. And then we did the pork tenderloin in there. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. I normally do not like pork like that.

It's too dry for me. Yeah. It does not take. No, heritage pork is totally different. There she is. I had to add in the chicken nuggets. Oh yeah. The nuggets are awesome.

They are good. Yeah. That's maxis like staple. They're the best. They're the best chicken nuggets you'll get anywhere besides when you go to an actual restaurant. And I can't help but laugh every time because you guys like, I'm an any restaurant, order for me.

I know, I know. That's Max's staple. Yes, I do like a staple lunch right there is chicken nuggets. He gets those chicken nuggets. Just like that. Like cheese, I got a juice box. No, he's got like two apple slices.

Look at that. I eat my kids food all the time. I like cheese. I got a juice box. You know, he's got like two apple slices. Look at that. I eat my kids food all the time. Six chicken nuggets. You'll see. And he's doing a good job. What do you mean? Daddy cuts out the Cheetos. That's the shut up.

That's how lean out. I saw you eating the box of the chicken. Oh, the chicken biscuits. Somebody sent them to me, but they weren't. You were not with Juno. Juno from what's the name of her food? We need to talk. Yes, yeah, great podcast but she listens to the she said it to us. She said it to us. She said it, but she said Adam, but that was you who said chicken best playing

you a no. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not denying that I like the demographic, but I remember we had that day where we were all talking about like old like comfort food. We're getting I remember the vegetable crackers. I used to love those ones. Vegetable crackers. You they were shaped like vegetables. It didn't taste like vegetables though Remember they were shaped like you guys know what I'm about right? Yeah, you know I didn't need them now Oh, they were good. I can't really think of anything so it's funny about that box So I loved it on the back it like pairs well with like easy cheese Yeah, and it's like pictures of like a tomato and then like real fruit like a vegetables behind

Real foods but like the whole thing is this process This so great. Hey, so we're we are gonna mention Viori as well, and I do want to say this of all the companies we work with that one has to be one of the biggest craziest growth I guess cycles ever like Everywhere I go now when I see dudes wearing I see Viori everywhere as well as you say everywhere It is exploded so much bit better sweet for me. I know we never invested. Yeah It's it is a bit it's a bit bittersweet because we were we were the very first people they ever advertised with right so that up until us all they do is Facebook ads so we were there early on

It was early on in our venture, so we didn't have the capital to be able to invest in it. We all believed in it. And what they were doing early on thought it was brilliant because nobody was addressing the the mail side very well. And you know, the Lulu lemon selection, I thought was weak. And their stuff was fire. So we knew it was going to do well. So yeah, it's bittersweet to see how successful. But you're everywhere. There, I mean, it's bittersweet to see how successful, but they're everywhere. They've partnered with so many companies, sports teams, you see them everywhere.

I rarely ever go somewhere where people are wearing athletes are wear and not see. It's the best looking. I don't ever say any more to you. I used to say stuff. I was like, oh, I thought, I think that they might know who were like, they're so beyond like this. You must listen to mine folks.

Exactly the level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. They're getting to that like, they're so beyond like this. You must listen to my. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. They're getting to that point where they're that big, man. And their stuff is so good. Oh, I got to tell you guys. So you know how we did the episode on bands? We released a new program, Maps Bands. And one of the things about bands that we talked about in the show was one of its strengths,

not its weaknesses, but one of its strengths is it causes less muscle damage. Meaning you don't damage the muscles as much, so you can actually dramatically increase One of its strengths, not its weaknesses, but one of its strengths is it causes less muscle damage, meaning You don't damage the muscles as much so you can actually Dramatically increase the volume of frequency, which has its own benefits. Right. This is one of the things that bands do And so we talked about in the episode and we speculated as to why but we really didn't come up with any particular reasons Well, anyway, someone commented under the video and it was I love this I love when I learn from our listeners and And the person maybe speculation, I 100% agree. Here's why bands don't cause as much muscle damage

as other forms of strength training. Because the load in the stretch position is the lightest. And the stretch position is where. He's where the most damage occurs. He tends to see the most damage. That's where you tend to see the most damage. I do, I do. And also on the eccentric and on the eccentric portion,

it's getting lighter and lighter and lighter. That's right. And when you get in the stretch position, stretching with the eccentric, it's getting lighter and lighter and lighter. That's right. And when you get in the stretch position stretching with the eccentric, that's where all the damage tends to happen. So, ah, there it is right there. This is why it's a everyday program. This is why bands, one of the values, this is why so maps bands for people who won't know we created a band advanced to work out. So this is for people who are like hardcore andcorn to exercise, who can gain benefits from training with bands.

Is it still, are we still doing the launch sale, Doug? Yes, we are. Okay, so you get a discount on it and you get two free e-books with it when you sign up. It's mapsbans.com. One more thing we have a shout out. I want to shout ourselves out. A lot of people don't know. It's all right.

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for trigger sessions? Oh, you can, okay, so first for people who don't know, trigger sessions are found in Maps and a Ballac. And what they are is on the days you don't work out. You do really light, five to eight minute kind of pumping sessions, typically with bands to maintain this muscle building signal and to facilitate recovery. And they're pretty remarkable. They really do produce significant results or better results if you add them versus when

you don't do them. Now, the question is, can you use light weights instead of bands? You can, but bands are superior, not just because bands are convenient, but because they're like what we talked about earlier in this episode, bands cause less damage. They just do, they just cause less damage than weights. So because trigger sessions, the goal is to maintain

the muscle building signal, but minimize damage or in best case scenario, facilitate recovery, bands are superior, they're just all for this particular purpose. And I've experimented with all kinds of different forms of resistance with trigger sessions and bands just do, they just do the best. Yeah, if I'm in a position where let's say I don't have bands, but I have dumbbells or something like that,

I'm gonna use like, literally 60% of the, you know, 50% of it. Yeah, real, real light, you wait. I do not want to even come close to training to failure with weights to get this. And on all I'm doing is literally just trying to pump the blood in there, right? That's it.

That's really the only thing. It's like it's easy to overdo it with dumbbells versus with the rubber bands. And to like, I guess, yeah, the other alternative to that is just body weight. But the bands just provide such a unique stimulus that doesn't Cause that kind of damage so it really helps to get blood flow and facilitate recovery. This is why the new program maps bands is

The only maps program where you're doing strength training every day And I don't mean like you're doing strength training every single day because you can do that with bands and we say it's advanced Meaning you need to have some experience, but it's not advanced in the sense that you're going to over train. Most people who've got some experience will do phenomenal with the program like that. How do we switch the bands out for weights? No way. It would definitely never have worked. So bands offer that unique ability to be able to send a muscle building signal, but minimize damage. And that you can capitalize on. By the way, for people who don't use trigger sessions, it's as easy as this. On your off days, you can capitalize on. By the way, for people who don't use trigger sessions,

it's as easy as this. On your off days, you can even do it like this. Pick a body part that is a weak body part and do a few sets of abandoned exercise for that particular body part two or three times on a day on the off days. Watch what happens to your gains. Next question is from AARON Stevens.

While in a cut, is it better to hit your protein for the day or stay within your calories? I love this question. Yeah, so long-term, okay, it's going to be one of those, it depends. Yes, try to use your protein. It's a good question because I could argue this either way. So could I? So is it like, how low is your protein for the day or how high over the calories are you? But if it's all within range, long term,

I think it's better to hit protein for most people. Now, if you have a particular date, you need to lose weight by your protein still okay, still relatively high, then I would say calories. But high protein has lots of benefits, muscle building, appetite suppression, they're showing it's got brain effects that are good. It's just, again, if you're within kind of like a reasonable range,

then I would tell people, go ahead and hit those those protein targets. Yeah, you know, okay. So it also depends on the person and their body type as far as like, how they hold on and build muscle, right? So I was actually just talking to a friend of ours who she's trying to cut and she's been running like pretty low calorie aruses and her body just holds on the muscle. I had my ex girlfriend was like this. Like she like touched weights, built muscle. We could diet her down to like 1,300, 1,400 calories

for weeks upon weeks and she just didn't lose any muscle. Like if she'd lost hardly any weight period, like some people just hang on to weight way better. On the opposite, like I look at a treadmill, weight starts to fall off of me and muscle go right with it if I don't hit my protein and takes. So it also depends on the person. So if I'm talking to that person,

I'm like really pushing her to get lower and lower on her calories, because it's hard for her to do that. And she's gotta be low on calories just to get her to lose anything whatsoever. And her body hangs on the muscle. If the, if the opposite is true with that person, I'm not really worried about going over 100 to 300 calories for a day.

I want to make sure I hang on to every bit of muscle for that person and we hit our protein intake consistently. Also depends. Okay. Uh, what do they do consistently more of? Meaning, are you the type of person like me who struggles to consistently hit their protein intake? If that, so if it comes to happen over and over. Yeah, that happens all the time

that I need to make that decision here. I have to eat that protein. It's like I'm already have a hard time hitting it consistently and then here I'm faced with a day of like, oh man, if I hit my protein intake, it's gonna put me over to 300 calories. But if I go under, it's like Jesus. Is this gonna be the third day in the last week that I don't hit my protein intake, it's gonna put me over to 300 calories. But if I go under, it's like Jesus, is this gonna be the third day in the last week

that I don't hit my protein intake? Right point. Not a good idea for me, I'm gonna hit my protein intake. So, I know that was like a lot of nuance, but that's the truth with something like this. It is, now what will the science-based community tell you calories?

If your goal is to lose weight and lose fat, then nothing will make the biggest difference in you doing that, then calories. And they'll say, cut the calories, don't overeat the calories just to chase protein because it's not like, all this muscle is going to fall if you're body. But what's interesting about this is that when I'm training or working with the average person, if I just tell them to hit their protein targets and to prioritize it from whole foods and to prioritize it in their meals,

meaning naturally lowers their calories. They automatically eat less calories. Yeah. Because it's so, it's so satiating, you eat less. I'm not talking about shakes. I mean, literally, oh, you need to eat 130 grams of protein a day, eat it first in your meals, and make sure it comes from whole foods,

and then don't worry about calories, is what I typically say. Now, if I tell someone to hit your calories, but don't worry about your protein, it's much harder to hit the calories. It's much harder to stay low calories. Plus if you go over, I mean, the next day, you make adjustments.

I mean, I don't see what's going on. Or, or, what if this person is also, let's say this person's in a deficit and they need to hit protein, so they're gonna go over two or three hundred calories this day, but this person's also lifting weights. So that day, those extra calories are gonna get prioritized to building muscle. Yeah, right. It's not gonna go over two or three hundred calories a day, but this person's also lifting weights. So that day, those extra calories are gonna get prioritized to building muscle.

It's not gonna go store, you're not gonna, like be in a calorie deficit for, let's say, a week, two weeks, right, stay in a calorie deficit and your strength training. And then one day, oh man, I'm low protein, so I'm not gonna hit, and then I go over 500 calories, let's say, there's gonna get prioritized to building muscle. You're not gonna put on a bunch of body fat from that. So I would hit the protein intake.

Next question is from the Eagle family. Can you increase strength but not muscle mass? Likewise, is it possible to gain muscle in one body part and lose muscle in others? A recent DexA showed I lost muscle in my trunk but gained elsewhere. Doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, it's okay.

So let's start with the first one. Can you get stronger without gaining muscle? Oh yeah, definitely. Your muscles can fire with more force. They can fire in a more organized fashion. This all comes from the central nervous system. You basically, you essentially become more efficient with a little improvement.

Yeah, like you can squat and get better at the skill of squatting, gain no muscle, but because you're better at the skill of squatting, now you squat more. Perfect example is our Olympic lifters. Look at Olympic lifter and why they're not bigger than bodybuilders because they have gotten so proficient at those lifts that they didn't have to keep adding a much of muscle mass. Now that being said, if you get stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, at some point you're gonna add muscle. At some point you'll get so efficient, fire muscle, so well, so organized,

especially if you feed yourself properly, muscle will come on. By the way, for the average person who just looks to build muscle, especially in the first year or two of training, that's usually what it looks like anyway. Stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger, boom muscle, stronger, stronger, stronger, boom muscle. It's usually in that particular fashion. Now, the second part, can you gain muscle in one area and lose it in others? Yeah. Absolutely.

If you train one part of your body and reduce training on the other part of your body, or you start prioritizing lifts that work one area over others, your body will adapt and morph. Your body will shape itself depending on the stresses that you place upon it. So you can 100% do this. By the way, bodybuilders often do this on purpose. When they're trying to create a balanced physique and they want to add more leg size, they don't gain as much upper body mass at the same time because they'll still be disproportionate. They tend to take the volume away from the upper body, put out in the lower body so that they can make themselves more balanced. Right.

So if you're like, yes, it's going to affect a lot of muscles, like in the core, like your isometrically stabilizing, but you're not working the same as if you're intentionally, you know, loading like a crunch, for instance. Right. You could also see it if you were, like, let's say the volume was all equated, but then the stimulus for the upper body and this person's upper body changed their lower body loss muscle, right? Maybe you were doing more novel exercises

for the upper body, right? You changed programming, you got unique things that you weren't doing before, and your lower body were sticking to the same basic movements that you always do, your body's pretty well adapted to that, and so it didn't get as great of a stimulus as the upper body did. So there's a lot of different things.

I'd also like to see the numbers on the Dexascan, well adapted to that. And so it didn't get as great of a stimulus as the upper body did. Right. There's a lot of different things. I'd also like to see the numbers on the Dexascant because it's, I mean, it's compared to other things that's, it's accurate, but it's not so accurate that, you know, a quarter can be a margin. Yeah, a quarter pound or something like that. I mean, it could be, it could be off. Whenever you're using these things, you want to look for trends is what you're looking for. Next question is from TatianaZP real estate.

Are you better off running a mile a day or three to five miles a couple times a week, which would be more beneficial for cardiovascular health and lower impact on joints? And this person said in parentheses, they don't have any race goals. This is just for leisure. Oh, a mile every day.

Yeah. Hi, first off, it's better for your cardiovascular health to do a little bit every day versus a lot sometimes. For your joints, way better, more practice means if you do a good job, you'll get better at running. The joint issues that come from running come from the fact that people don't run properly.

They don't have good biomechanics or technique, just like people who get hurt lifting weights. People tend to go run until they're tired. They don't look at it like a skill. Well, if you run less, you're less likely to get so fatigued, your form goes out the window And if you practice it every day and you try to run well, you'll get better faster So it by the way, by the way, I want to say this for almost every physical pursuit for almost every adaptation you're looking for

Your your if it's all equated the same and I say almost because there's definitely times where this isn't true But when you're looking at the same equal time volume all that stuff for the week, right? So in this case three to five miles a couple days a week versus one every single day You'll get better results overall by doing a little every day than you will lot same thing with strength training Same thing with flexibility training. So your body learns things. It's how it learns things I would also encourage this person if it's for cardiovascular reason, and there is no like pursuit or race competition to actually explore the stereomaster, the elliptical, the rower, swimming.

So, you mean, switch it up. I mean, if you're looking just to get the cardiovascular benefits from it, running is actually not even the best modality of all those different modalities, as far as overall health on the joints and things like that. I mean, swimming for that duration, you know, or go on the stairmaster for that duration, or do the elliptical for that duration, or do like, hill sprints for that, like, there's some things that you can do to keep that, yeah, salt bike, to keep that, the heart health up there without just running on the treadmill time.

So explore those other options too. Totally. Look, if you wanna follow some of our programs, but you wanna start small, go to Instagram. Mind pump media for less than $5 a month, you get a new workout every single week. It's a MAPS workout, programmed by us. And again, it's less than $5 a month.

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