Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2088: How to Build a Bulletproof Core, the Best Lat Building Exercises, the Truth About High Protein Diets & Longevity & MORE

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page. Mind Pump Fit Tip: One of the BEST categ...ories of supplements for muscle building, fat burning, and overall fitness are adaptogens! (1:50) Peptides are strong! Proceed with caution. (15:51) What is going on with Connor Murphy? (24:42) Crazy hacks found on the internet. (25:26) There is an individual variance when it comes to the rep range you do the best with. (32:18) The guy’s 1 rep max for each compound lift. (39:45) Confidence is sexy. (43:30) Blue collar jobs are here to stay. (50:06) The greatest value of home schooling. (54:12) The top traits people use to judge attractiveness. (59:40) Shout out to @oma.uk. (1:01:33) #Quah question #1 - How can I get a solid core? Not banging abs, but a strong engaged core? How do you train to naturally engage them in normal day to day activities to prevent injury? (1:03:03) #Quah question #2 - What are the best exercises to work the lower lats? Obviously, you cannot target solely the lower part. (1:07:31) #Quah question #3 - Can you guys please give your opinion on meal prep companies? Do you think they're worth it for someone who's extremely busy? I find myself not really eating much because of work so I wonder if I should invest in these expensive meal prep companies to maintain a good nutritional intake. (1:10:57) #Quah question #4 - Are high protein diets bad for longevity? (1:15:55) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** June Promotion: MAPS Cardio or Summer Shredded Bundle or the Bikini Bundle 50% off! **Code JUNE50 at checkout** Mind Pump #1945: How To Formulate A Supplement That Works With Shanais Pelka Mind Pump gives away free bloodwork to four lucky people a month! TRANSCEND your health goals! Mind Pump #2017: The Best Peptides For Fat Loss With Dr. William Seeds Can Clear Tape Over Your License Plate Truly Trick Traffic Cameras? Mind Pump #1827: The 3 Best Rep Ranges To Build Muscle & Burn Fat Robots Stole Blue Collar Jobs, Now AI Is Coming for White Collar Workers American families spend just 37 minutes of quality time together per day, survey finds Does Beauty Signal Health? | Psychology Today Mind Pump #2085: Abs & Core Masterclass How To Actually Target Your Lats With The Lat Pulldown! How to Perform a PROPER Dumbbell Pullover (Target Chest of Lats) | MIND PUMP Visit Daily Dose Meals for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP20 for 20% off your first order, excluding subscriptions.** Visit Kreatures of Habit: Meal One for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MP25 at checkout** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. William Seeds (@williamseedsmd) Instagram Connor Murphy (@connormurphyofficial) Instagram OMA (@oma.uk) Instagram Eugene Teo (@coacheugeneteo) Instagram DON SALADINO (@donsaladino) Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the world's most downloaded fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump, right? In today's episode, we answered listeners' questions. But this was after our intro portion today with 60 minutes long. So we talk about current events, family life, fitness, scientific studies and much more. By the way, if you want to skip around to your favorite parts, check the show notes for
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Starting point is 00:02:03 If you're lacking the vitamin or mineral, taking one of those things can be a game changer. If your protein is low, protein powder can be a game changer. But besides those, look at adaptogens. They actually improve or enhance your body's ability to adapt. What is adapting? Muscle building, fat loss, getting stronger, getting more fit, improving endurance.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So many of you will notice positive effects by supplementing with the proper inappropriate adaptogens. It's a great category supplements. They've been used for thousands of years, another forms of medicine. They've got health benefits, check them out. Yeah, but at what point have they become popular in the West? Because I know that they're probably more,
Starting point is 00:02:43 you know, Eastern-related in terms of like herbs and all that. Like, they've been here, but they haven't been real, like, popular marketed at least. Yeah, well, kind of, like, they'll market them differently. I know, do we have a lot of research around, like, building muscle and stuff with them? We do now. Oh, we do.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah, we're starting to now, like, like, Ashwagandha is a classic adaptogen used in aeravetic medicine. And the way, so here's what's cool about these old forms of medicine, right? They've been around for hundreds or thousands of years. They don't have scientific studies because the scientific method wasn't used
Starting point is 00:03:14 back then or for those methods. But they had lots and lots of anecdotes. So you go to aeravetic medicine. What does Ashwagandha do? Oh, it's good for libido, energy, strength, right? What are they finding studies? It makes you stronger, it improves libido, it gives you more energy.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Rodeola, been used for a long time, the Soviets actually studied it, but the problem with Soviet studies where a lot of them didn't come over here because of the iron curtain. Well, okay, what did they use Rodeola for? They used it for their soldiers to give them more energy, better mental sharpness,
Starting point is 00:03:43 better resistance to things like fatigue, improve their strength, athletic performance, muscle. What is studies show now? It definitely does those things. Genesync, Genesync and Chinese medicine has shown lots of these different things. What is studies show? Genesync actually does these things. So adaptogens are a great category of supplements,
Starting point is 00:04:01 primarily because they've been around and been used for so long. And yes, now we have studies actually to support their use. So why is this important for the average person? Every time you're trying to get your body to change, what you're essentially doing is asking your body to adapt. So if you can enhance the adaptation process by taking an adapted gen, literally adapted gen, right, improve your body's ability to deal with stress. What does that mean? Your body's ability to deal with stress. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Your body adapts to the stress better. What is a stress? Exercise, lifting weights, dieting. That's a stress on the body, right? Lack of sleep, that's a stress on the body. You'll actually become more resilient and you'll adapt to things better by using, properly using, I should say,
Starting point is 00:04:39 adapt to gin. So it's a great category. So let's play a little game here. You have a person, an avatar, who is trying to build muscle. They're deficient on vitamin D. Create team, ashwaganda, vitamin D supplement. If I were to compare them all head to head in the pursuit of building muscle,
Starting point is 00:05:03 how would you like show them on like a like a graph to show? There's efficient vitamin D. Yeah, deficient vitamin D. Vitamin D would be first. So that would be. Yeah, because that's the only sense of it. It's still even more than creating.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, because really? Well, lack of vitamin D just won't affect your ability to build muscle. I know, that's why you try to make it. Yeah, it's hormone, hormone-related hormones. Yeah, you can make you depressed, you're getting anxious, like you're sick, right? So if you lack an essential, essential meaning you need this to thrive and survive. If you're lacking that, you're sick, you're essentially sick, your body and your mind are all not going to be well. So that's always number one.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Cratein for building muscle, for muscle health, you know, that kind of stuff, strength, bone, or even showing now, it's great for bone mineral, for improving bone density, I should say, or strength, or reducing the risk of fractures. It's got thousands of studies on it. And creatine, by the way, is naturally occurring. Creatine is up there. It's at the top. But adapted genes are right there. Like there. So, let's, okay, back to my thing, is I really, I'm gonna make you do this. There's sure. Like, you know, you've already said vitamin D.
Starting point is 00:06:08 For sure. And then where would, where, like, give me like a visual. Like here's vitamin D. I see you would be next. And then creatine, and as a creatine like this, or as creatine like real close to that, you think. No, I mean, you, you, you, you fill a nutrient gap or deficiency, it's life changing.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Like, you'll take somebody who's on antidepressants or, you know, anti-anxiety medication because they have a nutrient deficiency and they don't know. And then they all of a sudden fill that nutrient deficiency, it's life changing, complete life changing, right? So, so that's like big. That's ideal. So creating in the category of a vegan would be like,
Starting point is 00:06:40 pretty elevating. Vegan's get a much bigger effect from creating because they don't get, they don't get, they don't get much of it all. In fact, they show statistically significant boosts in IQ with vegans who take crating. That's how big of a difference it makes. Okay. So vitamin D here, and then is that mean you're going to say like creatine and ash pagando
Starting point is 00:06:58 are... Or adaptogens? Yeah. I would say if this was a scale of one to 10, filling a nutrient need would be at 10. Okay. Crating would be like a five. Okay. And adaptogens would be like probably a four or three.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Okay. Now, for people listening to, oh, that's a four or three, that's nothing. Every other supplement's at zero. So, I mean, almost every supplement you're gonna take, right, right. Except for the ones that fill nutrient needs, are pretty much at zero.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Anything that says is gonna build muscle, burn body fat, that isn't in the categories of things that I talked about. It's not gonna do anything for you. That's the other thing. So you got all the big boxes kind of checked off and like you're doing everything in terms of like nutritionally and training wise,
Starting point is 00:07:39 but also you're carrying on a lot of excess stress, like whether it's relationships or work related, whatever it is, and you're just kind of spinning a little bit faster, like this is a category you're looking to. This is not a- That's another great angle you're going in right there because that now makes that leap up, right?
Starting point is 00:07:55 So if you have somebody who's got a high stress job like you're saying, and it's like, and now I take that same person, right? But let's say they're not deficient in vitamin D or whatever, and then they have a high stress type of job. Yeah, there's over one, the body's over one by stress. And so now, adaptogens are more important. Adaptogens probably leap from real extreme.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yes, because the need is there, right? But I mean, I can't stress this enough. One of the biggest challenges that people encounter whenever they're trying to change their body is appropriately applying stress. What I say appropriately, it's gotta be the right amount of stress that's going to induce adaptation
Starting point is 00:08:32 but an overcome your body's ability to adapt and just have to focus on healing is where people get stuck. Well, imagine if your stress meter limit is here, now an adaptogen moves it up here. So now your normal stresses don't overwhelm your body. So for some people this is significant. And this is why you see these adaptogens doing things like raising testosterone. Do they directly raise testosterone? No,
Starting point is 00:08:57 what they probably do is prevent the depression of testosterone because you're overwhelmed by stress, right? So I think the last time we had a commercial for Organify, I think I even brought this up, but this is I speculate that this is the main reason why the green juice gets so much positive feedback Because there's a lot of there's a lot of people especially in the fitness space that shit on green juice is like Oh, it's like a total waste of money. It's whatever. It's just vegetable Go get your vegetables eat them in real life, which we always would advocate somebody That's the thing protein powder is a waste of money. Go eat a steak. Yeah, yeah, yeah Whole foods, right.
Starting point is 00:09:25 So we always push that. But I think when people talk about how they can feel a difference from it, I would probably speculate that it's because the ashwagand. It's got ashwagand and then the red juice is got Rodeola, which is another, again, that's a very popular Russian adaptogen. A little bit more stimulating.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So here's what's interesting about adaptogens, they're not all the same. Some are more calming, some are more stimulating. So here's what's interesting about adaptive genes. They're not all the same. Some are more calming, some are more stimulating. So Rodeola is more stimulating. So what do I don't like? And now here's a funny thing. So I don't know how to explain this in Western medicine terms. I had an herbalist explain this to me.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And they said that I was very high in young energy. So you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you So, you know, you're in young. You're in female, young male, you're in fire, you know, cool, whatever. They said my young was high, tended to be high, which made sense, that's my personality. So, taking too much rodeo, or even red jinsing, panicked jinsing, the original jinsing, can drive it so high that it makes me feel feverish
Starting point is 00:10:23 and kind of depressed. So, I have to take a small dose and I feel good. If I take too much, I don't feel good. Yeah. Aren't there about like heat and cold? That's how they explain it. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So I don't know what's happening on a, you know, neurochemical or biological level. I should definitely look into that. That's interesting because those are the two that I think I like the least of all the adaptogens that are out there. You, you know, with Oshwaganda like me. That's the green juice. It does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. I mean, you had me for a while back when we were really trying to work on my test australia. Yeah. I was taking the pure ashruganda, which I would much like. Oh liquid. Yeah. Much rather have it in the green juice. You know what the you know what ashruganda means? I think it means horse piss. Yeah. Look it up, Doug. Look up ashruganda means horse piss. Just put that because it smells. Wow. If you if you get the actual like herb itself, it is not. Oh, it's awful. Yeah, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I mean, the liquid form you had me taking way back when. By the way, I could have given you capsules, but I want to see you take a little. Here's such a dick. Here you go. Yeah. So to put it in more polite terms, odor of the horse.
Starting point is 00:11:25 As it's roots smell like horses urine. This comes from Ayurvedic. It tastes like it too. Wait, hold on. It tastes like horse piss. It tastes like it too. I'm from experience. I don't know, you worked in farms and shit.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I know, right. I'm not allowed to grow it out there. I'm not allowed to grow it out there. I'm sure some splashed up on me once. Oh, I'm curious. I'm curious. That deck gets in here. It You get curious, you know, the deck is. That's going on here. I don't like that. No, so you want to look at which one works best for you.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So, you know, this doesn't necessarily mean every one of these is going to be great. Definitely don't combine a bunch. I know people listening right now, like me, will take all of them and take them at the same time. That's not how adaptogens work. The right dose works best. Too much or too little doesn't do anything for you. You can actually make you feel worse, right?
Starting point is 00:12:09 And the dose can be different from person to person. Like the red juice has rodeola. I can do one dose a day and I feel great. If I go up to two to three, I start to feel those feverish kind of symptoms. Now I know people who take the red juice several times a day and love it, they feel amazing. I can take multiple of the Red Juice.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I go one to two and that's it. So the Red Juice has the rodeo in it? It does. So that's weird. Now, when I had, remember when we were working with Fit Aid and they had that Fit Aid that had rodeo in it, I mean, it would just, it would make me feel nauseous. So that might have been something else.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Well, I know they had other stuff in it. So maybe it was the, because I've taken a pure Rodeola and high doses. So I read these old Soviet studies and they're like, super high dose, of course that's what I did. I didn't feel good. But the Redjuice has got a nice, nice even dose. I can have three of the Redjuice in a day.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Okay, no problem. And I love it. But then I've had others, I've not only, and Fidades the first thing that comes with mine, but we've had other companies send us stuff. And almost every time when I tell you like you, you're like it has has the rodeo, you've always been like, you don't do good or not good.
Starting point is 00:13:09 But the Red Juice, not that case. Yeah, Jinxing, could it be something else that is in the Red Juice that's kind of countering that, that's making me feel better? That's a good question. Let me think about that for a second. And maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 we're gonna fight as a good job of balancing out their knowledge about herbs and compounds and how they should be combined is really good. Most supplement companies have zero knowledge about this. All they know is stimulant, stimulant, stimulant, stimulant, stimulant, combine them all. That's gonna be better, or relaxing, relaxing, relaxing, relaxing, relaxing.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Combine our thoughts about what they're really good at is what is the marketing part, like where most money goes into. Oh, I'm talking about the ones that actually put stuff in. You're right. The other ones are just, but I know this, I've seen stuff, like I've seen sleep products.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And I'm like, holy shit, you put five different herbs that depress the CNS. You're gonna wake up feeling like you're, like, stuck with you. So I'm gonna be, yeah, you know? Organifi does a good job of balancing things out because that's what you're supposed to do. If you go to an actual herbalist,
Starting point is 00:14:05 they don't, see here's the problem. People approach herbs the way Western medicine approaches medicine. We take an active compound, we concentrate the shit out of it and throw it at you. Herbs don't work best this way. You balance them out. That's how you get the best effects.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Herbalist, that's exactly what they do. They'll never give you one strong dose of this. They'll give you this, and then they'll give you something else based off of your symptoms and how they worked together. You know, I never asked you, when you worked with organified to do a peak and make that, did you learn anything from them? Did you feel like, because I know you worked with them as far as the formula.
Starting point is 00:14:40 So I knew that I wanted balance. I knew some of the compounds that I wanted. What I learned was how Some of the natural sources of those compounds and what they put them with how they put them in there And yeah, they're they were I mean I love when I talk with people who you know Nor more than I do about a subject that I feel like I know quite a bit about so I was impressed Yeah, I was definitely impressed. Yeah, what that stuff. So but yeah, Dr. Jins dude I you know I
Starting point is 00:15:07 most people will take them and they'll notice Performance enhancing effects and if you find the right one for your body like ashwagandha for me is I mean I it's distinct. I'll go up. This doesn't sound like a lot to someone But it is to me who's been working out for so long. I'll add 10 to 15 pounds on my compound lifts It's 100% I've already parsed it out. Two ashwagandha supplementation. After about, it's usually after about 30 to 45 days. That's a significant amount that's literally just the supplement. Nothing else.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But I think what the point that matters most is that it's because you need it or it's something that really... It just balances out the stress, right? Because that's the hardest thing to do is juggling what's the right amount of exercise intensity. And your stress cadets, that's probably good for you. So what? You the right amount of exercise intensity. That's probably good for you. So what? You're a stress cadet. That's probably good for you.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's probably good for you. Okay, let's keep playing this game. I want to take it further because I actually have another question that's related to kind of this stuff. So we have the vitamin D thing. I said, now let's throw in peptides. Oh. Well, that's a whole nother category.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I know it is. So is this like Peptides are strong Peptides are strong which explains whether expensive. Yeah, like you take a peptide it does shit Like and you're gonna notice for sure. Oh BPC you've been taking it to yes, okay So you're taking it on my mind right now. You're taking a different name me. I'm doing the oral BPC KPV and where are you putting it in my thigh? Where you have the injury? Yeah, but it doesn't feel like it exists anymore How fast pro it's only been well. It's actually been about Seven injections now because you were like it was like a pain. Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:34 Here's a deal it works so good. It scares me Yes, because I'm like I don't even feel it anymore and I'm like, I wanna get after it, but I'm afraid. Wow. Yeah, I know. That's how it was with my Achilles too, same thing. I remember you saying that. It was like, it's like the next day or after the second shot, I already felt significant reduction in the pain.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And then it got to the point where I was like, oh my God, it felt like I didn't do anything. And then I'm like, but then I'm like scared. I'm like, is it just blocking a signal or is it numbing something? No, it's just stimulating like stem cell production and localizing it in the area. It literally accelerates, they call it the Wolverine peptide. It accelerates dramatically wound healing or injury healing.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So they'll do like crazy studies on rats, where they'll sever and Achilles or do something crazy and then have these guys over here just heal on their own. You have these ones over here use BPC and it's like twice as fast. It's wild. Well that's how okay so this is not my first time kind of injuring my leg where it's at this this is happened like a good four or five times the similar spot and area that where this is happened. Are you doing like a deep like deep into the muscle injection or like an insulin needle? It's an insulin needle okay but I go straight in and then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so But so I kind of know like about how long I have to take it easy and rehab before I can kind of get after it and and so that's exactly What I know is just significantly faster so much faster that I'm like
Starting point is 00:18:02 So my buddy Eric has had this chronic shoulder shit. He's been dealing with forever physical therapy, correctional exercise. I sent him to some people we know. It got better, but it's always kind of like been there for a while. And he's had this guy's had so many injuries. He played football and just a wild childhood. Anyway, he's like, dude, he goes, I did a couple like into the joint where it hurts. And he said the same thing, he goes, is this like, am I just like numbing it? Like what's going on?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Because I feel so much better. I'm like, no, you're healing. You're healing so much fast. So I'm doing the oral capsule. And the capsule, it accelerates healing in the gut. So it's a tight time release to release in the gut? Well, just because it's literally wherever you put it is where it works most.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And there's a little bit of a systemic effect if you take an early-up reading, but it's mainly in the gut. Speeds up the healing of the mucosa lining and any damage that you have in your gut. Can I tell? Yeah. You know how you can tell? I can eat things that I normally can't eat. Now, this might not be a good thing. Push it too hard.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I just put an order in to get some oral as well. Oh, you haven't started yours yet. Haven't started it yet. So I'm curious. Do you guys have feedback? I better, I want to say this because everyone's excited watching this right now. Yes, you can buy all the stuff online.
Starting point is 00:19:17 No, they are not made by a pharmacy. They're all research chemicals is a great area. And I've seen third party testing on some of the stuff. Dr. Seed's actually showed me this. Research Chemicals is a great area. And I've seen third party testing on some of the stuff. Dr. Seed's actually showed me this. And you are gambling if you do that. You'll have a weird peptide in there that you don't even know what it is or nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Well, if you're not working with it, you've got to go with the pharmacy. And you got to know this case, just as a consumer understand this. What I brought up the other day when we were talking about CBD is just like, it's one of those markets because it's not regulated like that. And they're expensive,
Starting point is 00:19:46 there's huge margins, and when there's huge margins in a market like that, and especially when it's new, so many charlatans are gonna get in there, and water down things to increase their margins. You know what the game is? There's people that know this, here's the game. Supplement companies used to do this, and some of them still do.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You'll put out a product that's super popular, have none of that product in there. You have huge margins. By the time you start getting bad reviews, close shop, next thing, start it again. Next thing. And do another one,
Starting point is 00:20:14 because it's so easy to set up an online storefront on the internet, it's so easy to get. Didn't we look, isn't that what, so you don't have to change anything else, just the business. Did you ever find up for me? Yeah. Who the founder of rise supplements are YSE Because they have shit knockoff of shreds. Yes, I'm pretty sure it was the same group of guys
Starting point is 00:20:37 And they did a shut that down and open after shreds went down they opened the new brand rise And also I had to nest the way to to get rid of the inventory right that's Nicholas Stella I don't know if the same guy or not. I see if he put rise put Shreds the rise because all you got to do is like change the labeling and There's a clue in it right they both words misspelled like dorks to make Stupid anyway the Z's on every work with people like dorks to make it. Shreds, rice. Stupid. Anyway, the Zs on M. We work with people who are doctors and you go to pharmacy.
Starting point is 00:21:10 It's mphormones.com. So if you are interested in peptides, mphormones.com, it's an actual doctor's actual pharmacy. Do you foresee, because it's not a cheap space, you foresee getting cheaper in the future, or do you think that it's going to stay really unfortunately because the pharmaceutical industry. The shreds was Alvin Loll. Yeah, I know that's the main guy. There's a bunch of them all connected to that.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is. All you do is you do like we start another podcast and then we just you know we'll put like Andrew as the name. Pump might. Yeah, it's the same company, you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, that's a different company. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's the way to look at it. I mean, probably just directly asking the internet like is, you know, is there any affiliation with Rye Supplements to Shred Supplements?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yes, it's like that. I felt like it was. Well, I remember, I remember who was right after it went under and then like literally a month or two later, you had Joey Swoll and some of those guys that were. He now is a great guy, apparently. He does make videos about how great he is on people's semi-dms We can this guy talking great things about save all the people get bullied in the game
Starting point is 00:22:12 You know what though? We should get people second chances. I feel like such a dick. Maybe he is maybe he is a nice guy Maybe maybe or maybe not. Yeah, I don't know why he's so quiet over there. I mean I think you could be a nice guy and he's still be I mean, yeah, you could be a nice guy and you still be. I mean, yeah, you could be a nice guy and you could still be a virtue signalling turd too. It's the same time. I'm saying you can. Right. This is, this isn't mean you're not nice. You can be nice and be all those things still. Yeah. I mean, what it is is like everybody and I know there's going to be
Starting point is 00:22:39 somebody gets all offended by that because they're like, oh, he's so sweet. Nice. Everything does now. It's like It's like, these kids on Instagram and social media, they do something, they see that it works as far as- And that becomes their thing. Yeah, that becomes their thing. And it's just like, that's my stick now, as I do this. Well, it would be good.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Not because I really care that much, but because it gets me lots of traction and comments and people believe I care. I want to talk about this. It should be a trajectory of like- Otherwise, you know how I feel like people do those things, and you just do believe I care. I want to talk about should be a trajectory of like, otherwise, you know how I feel like people do, like do those things and you just do it in silence. Like if you like, it's like people who donate some of that
Starting point is 00:23:11 and you have to make a big or deal by it's like. That's old marketing one-on-one by the way. You don't need a hundred thousand dollars and then you spend two hundred thousand dollars advertised that you donate. If you're videoing you being charitable, dude, like come on. Yeah, you know why you're doing that. That's what that's like to me.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It's like, so are you really going in like, actually changing cultures in gym, or do you just video over somebody else's video, talking about somebody and being like, and you're talking to all people who agree with you already. So you're not really changing that culture. You know, I wanted to go back, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:40 The guy who you were making fun of, who bullies people in the gym are not following you. No. And you're talking to your audience who is the bullied one, so they all agree and they cheer you on, but are you really going in the gym and actually doing stuff about it? Or no, probably not.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You're not wearing this and probably not. All right, I want to go back to PepTide's real quick. You asked about what I think about being cheaper. Here's unfortunately what I think. I unfortunately think there's going to be a regular, I think they're going to get, you're going to be regular at some point. That's what I think. I unfortunately think there's going to be a regular, I think they're gonna get, we're gonna get a regular at some point. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I think, because I especially with this, like any time it works. Yeah, exactly it works and it's gonna be competitive with the firms. Didn't they try and do that with CreeTino at one point? Yeah. Right, they were gonna regulate with CreeTino. They're trying to regulate the whole supplement industry,
Starting point is 00:24:19 which I blame supplement companies for the stupid stuff that they do, but whatever. You know, talking about influencers who do weird stuff to get into, what did you say Doug? Well, it looks like he worked for Shreds for a while. And then at some point, there was a lawsuit of, I think Shred sued him.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I don't know all the details of it yet. Oh, okay. Oh, interesting. So there was a relationship there, but I don't know exactly what it was, but it doesn't sound like it ended well. Oh, interesting, okay. And speaking of influencers,
Starting point is 00:24:44 guy that we knew for a second, Conor Murphy, have you guys seen his stuff on? Face palm. What? Is he, I don't stick up with him, or stay up with him more. Bro, he's gone, he gets weirder. I mean, it's an example,
Starting point is 00:24:55 but I just said, example what I just said. Like literally, you throw spaghetti on the wall, something sticks and it's like, oh wow, when I do these, what it was, it was this yoga troll thing that he did where he was like, you sit with him and then like, or orgasm, you know, we're just doing yoga together.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah, you know, so they do something, and it's like, oh shit, look at all the comments, it's getting, look at all the traction. It's like, now this is my thing, you know. Then you ride that, and tell people are like, okay, played out, seen it enough, then you do something else. He does, weird shit. All right, so I got some crazy hacks for you that I found on the internet that are like, okay, played out, seen it enough, then you do something else. He does weird shit.
Starting point is 00:25:25 All right, so I got some crazy hacks for you that I found in the internet that are really, there was this site and it literally was like, it was titled something like Crazy Hacks. And I read some of them and I'm like, oh, are they real? So I'm gonna start with the first one that's kind of cool and I checked up on it and I think, and it works.
Starting point is 00:25:42 People are saying this works. Okay. All right. You know how when you're driving and you go in that lane that you're not supposed to because you don't have the pass or whatever and then you're gonna be a ticking mail and it's a picture of your license plate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And like, oh, you owe 20 bucks or whatever. You could put clear skateboard grip tape over the license plate and which you could still see it. You could still see it from behind. But it just starts to dig. From above, it starts to dig. It looks like it's a it's, it's a blurred image. And it works.
Starting point is 00:26:09 What a great hack. It's a, it works. They can't get your license plate. Oh, I agree. We're going to get control for sure. And that one. Hey, that was on the internet. That I get hit with that all the time.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, all the time. Here's another one. This one's kind of dickish. And then there's a funny one. Here's the dickish one. If you want free parking, find a garage. Oh, it makes you take a ticket to keep track of how long you've been there.
Starting point is 00:26:28 When you leave, instead of giving the machine the original ticket, you go get a new one and then give that to the machine and then you'll only be charged for like five minutes or free. Well, yeah, it sounds obvious. Yeah, it's obvious. Yeah, so what you do is when you have to go in, you have to get the original ones. Yeah. And then you put that on your dash, then you go park for four hours,
Starting point is 00:26:45 then when you leave this action. You just walk through, that's what you do for the Warriors game when we do that stuff. That's a good one right there. What? And then probably it's costing you like $60, $70 sometimes just for a warrior game.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Wow, I know those point. They have cameras. They do have cameras. They do have cameras, but I doubt they're monitoring at that moment. Over me. I doubt the Walker Ravas,
Starting point is 00:27:04 K-14. What's kind of crazy? Why did I not visit? That's kind of a very Over me. I just walk around with skateboard tape. What's kind of crazy? Why did I not have to look at that? That's kind of a very obvious one. I don't know. Are you embarrassed that you didn't think of that? I am a little embarrassed that I didn't think of that. You're the guy that wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I would do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really bad. You're gonna get to drive backwards in, you know, on the end. If you drive backwards, that's not a good one. If you drive backwards, they give you money. That is a good one. You break the machine. We owe you money. All right, here's another one. If you drive backwards, they give you money. That is a good one. You break the machine.
Starting point is 00:27:25 We owe you money. All right, here's another one. This one's hilarious. This one's so maybe last so hard. If your girlfriend or wife or whatever has an annoying friend that you wanted to just stop hanging out with, this is what you do. You just casually mention to your wife that you think her friend's pretty. Like she's saying.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yes. Yes. I have one to add. I have one to add. So all of those bullshit fake parking spots at retail stores and garages and also what's included in that is the electric vehicles that is not illegal for anyone to park in. There's no laws.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's the online shopping, like all of the news, all of them, just online shopping. The only one I won't do is- Expecting mothers. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I was just gonna say, burrito loading zone. I'm in. I'm fucking loading. Yes, sir. Yeah. Tell me I'm not. They might tell me I'm not sure about that.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I gotta tell you a story, dude. We did that once, because Adam actually does this. We Adam remember where we were, and we, this is back when you drove your, what was your big, it was a big denolli, just things like, just a gas guzzler. Parks an electric vehicle only, and he pulls out,
Starting point is 00:28:38 and I'm like, this is like, we only worked together for like a year. I'm like, I don't think you can park this here. I'm like, no where to put this. I'm like, there's nobody, Adam, I don't think you can park it anywhere. I'm like, nowhere to put this. I'm like, there's no way I can park it. Adam takes out the electric park and puts it in his window. We walk away. Sorry, we just go inside.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You know, some fucking snooty Prius chick with walk right by. I'm like, oh, you're killing me, fire. I can't believe that. Like, you guys get your own parking spots because you're back. I got a clarification on that. Sorry, guys. What? Basically, you can either get fine or towad if the spot has the plug-in charger and you take the spot.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Oh, so that is. The plug-in charger, you're fine. Spoken like a Tesla owner. Oh! That's a lot. He's like, Bullshit, this is Bullshit. There's still a good fight. I just want to save all the people out there that are going to choose to park in that spot.
Starting point is 00:29:24 So if it has a charging station, you can get a fine. Yeah, if it just says it, then you're fine. Yeah, I mean, even for people like that have the car that just don't plug it in. Oh, so you get a fine if you don't plug it in. Just leave it there all the time. Oh, well, that kind of makes sense. We can get towed. You get that.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That makes sense. You know, other people can't use it. I wondered if that's one of those ones that you could be, but nobody's enforcing that bullshit. Bro, listen, if it says you can get towed, you know this is better than I do. Toad, towed companies, that's what they do. They just circle around waiting to pick people. No, they make deals with those places.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And by the way, putting anything on your license over your license plate. Federal, I just say. Yeah, you're tampering with your license plate against the law. It's clear. Yeah, you can see through that. Well, you can see it, but your tampering that will put plate is against the law. It's clear. You can see it. You can see it, but your tampering is still.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I will put like a little right now when Andrew gets arrested for that. They're so scary right now. Yeah, a little scary. You guys can do whatever you want. My pump does not encourage you to do any of these things. We're talking about that right now. I'm just thinking we're gonna get sued.
Starting point is 00:30:18 No, I'm not worried about that. I'm just trying to protect you. Yeah, right. Shit. Hey, that's what you guys bought my necklace idea? That's what you guys? Oh, yeah. I was gonna show up with a necklace with a lock on it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. Yeah. Because Adam's key. That was gonna save me. Oh, I'm just gonna have a lock. That was cute. That was just my heart. Just wait for the audience to pick it out.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Wait, what's going on here? There's nothing special going on. Yeah. Best friends forever. Yeah. Yeah. You have the key to my life. That might be me, jealous.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Did you guys do that? Did you guys ever have friend bracelets or anything like that with people? I think I did actually oh my god Really? I think when I was a young really young kid. Yeah, you and your buddy. No, I think me and my cousin I think my family yeah Okay, and it was one of my girl cousins and she got it for me when I was younger That's a little weird Girl cousin. Yeah, you have close first or second really close. Yeah, I was close I was close to Alabama close for like Seconds okay, I've heard yeah first This is my first cousin
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah, you know, I think I you know the ones were like the hearts like half broken I think I think she got me one of those when I was I mean God. I was like that's cute probably nine years old Yeah, I was like, oh, that's cute. Probably nine years old. Yeah, the hands that like, goo like this. No, not the head. Look, how's that work? Oh, it looks like a heart. Yeah, it looks like, yeah, it does. We should get one just and you know, I, but it's feet.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, it's interlocked. Yeah, we've talked about doing that. Just so, so bad. Be the worst. It'll be terrible. I know I told you guys off-air, and I tell the audience, my sister-in-law who did the foot thing on the banana, that I said, okay, I don't know know I told you guys off-air that I tell the audience with my my sister-in-law who did the the foot thing on the banana
Starting point is 00:31:46 I said oh okay, I don't know if I told you oh yeah, she stepped on a banana made my cash and Yeah, I know I think someone should look into that Andrew maybe look into something like that we could do on the on the side I thought he's got good feet I can find the talent I think he's got good feet. I can find the talent. Toes and hoes. And you find talent. Let's see. We build the page.
Starting point is 00:32:08 What would you walk on, Andrew? Broken glass. Oh, I'd be interested in that. I'm sure. Anyway, let's get back to fitness here real quick. You know what's funny that we haven't talked about in a little while is that our programs go through most of not all. I think all of our programs have phases and one of the ways that the phases changes because
Starting point is 00:32:30 there's a lot of ways. But one of them is rep ranges. And we've talked about this before. There's value and low reps, moderate reps and higher reps. And all of them build muscle, all of them improve your physique, but switching through them is better than just sticking to one. However, I will say this. And I've seen this with clients, and I definitely seen this with myself.
Starting point is 00:32:48 There's a rep range that you tend to just do the best with. There's that individual variance of rep ranges, and it always blows me away. I have not trained in a low rep range for probably three months because I was getting some aches and pains, so I was just doing like 12 to 15 reps. And I switched to low reps and man, it's like there is nothing that gets my body respond like low reps. Like I'm talking to three reps for nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You know, you guys have, you're like me, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I have the same kind of experience. I think it's because I wonder if it's when you're, you know, sort of in that that developmental period where you're exposed to weight training and then you know, you know, you've got that kind of permanent. Yeah, it's almost like a permanent sort of hyper-responsive adaptation. Adaptation, I don't know, that's because you prime your body to be good at it. Yeah, I would just do compound lifts.
Starting point is 00:33:41 That's what I did in the very beginning. It was the formative for me. Interesting. I don't know if that's the case. You should do one of those DNA tests. Maybe that's what it's all right. What's your rep range? Prove I'm rep you on some low. You know what? I you would need to 12. You know, I actually think that I have seen equal. Like man, I wasn't until you guys when we started hanging out, I never trained less than five, or six even.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I never trained five by five, I never trained three, you know, the three reps of anything, or even singles. Like, boy, my body responded when I did that. Now I wonder if that's this because you never did. So that's what I'm getting at is that. So I don't know if that, because I also get great results training 10 to 15 reps too.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So I, you know, you want to performance in the gym is pretty balanced that would say. You know what I'm saying? As far as I, yeah, I think like at Justin and I, I'd like to think that I'm seem to do really well in the most diverse, I think in the most diverse. I think you guys have like Justin is like the functional mobility guy like that's like, but when I mean has to work really hard to make himself do bodybuilding stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That's just he hates it. And you're like Mr. Grinding Strength lift everything else super heavy. I think I have float around more than you guys. Well, what I mean by that is just from a strength perspective, not necessarily what we enjoy and stuff is, like Justin and I do very well with the lower rep stuff. His is probably more power. Mine would be more grinded. But still in that low rep stuff, like, like, when you do those one rep max calculators with me, they're always off.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Because my one rep max does not match what I can only do for 10 at all. I could just do way more for lower reps. I've seen you work out at them and you seem to be pretty. I guess that out. You seem pretty balanced. Yeah. Well, I actually was going to say to you guys, guys, maybe why that part of why you feel that way is because you haven't trained long enough consistently enough
Starting point is 00:35:29 in just the body builder 10, 10, 15 super sets that you never allowed your strength to get cut up to that. Like I can move, like there's not a huge discrepancy between my one rep and then what I can do five, six, eight, 10 times. So to your point, I got not that, I mean, obviously I'm a lot stronger on a PR
Starting point is 00:35:48 versus what I'm doing 12 or 15 reps, but not as huge as you guys. Well, so I've done long bouts in those higher rep ranges. I've done long bouts and super sets. And I've always like bodybuilding too, but like the difference between my two rep max and my rep max doesn't make sense. I could add so much more weight to the bar and do one rep
Starting point is 00:36:06 to what I could only do for two reps. It's not like, you know, typically it's like, oh, you can only do this for two, add 10, that's your one rep max. No, no, mine. Yeah, that's me. Mine for a lot of lifts is like, it's not a huge discrepancy,
Starting point is 00:36:16 but even my three to three to five, like if I can move it once, I could probably move it close to moving it three times, or a weight pretty close to that. That's why I don't I don't have this big jump when I go to. But it's interesting. It's just some to pay attention to. So if you've been working out for a long time and you go through our programs, pay attention to the responses your body gives you with all the rep ranges and the phases. And then what you do as you individualize is you just
Starting point is 00:36:39 stretch out the phases that you respond best to whenever you follow our program. So maybe phase three is five weeks instead of three or phase one or whatever. That's just one way to individualize your training for your specific body. You know, I wonder which one, so that's for the pursuit of strength, which is what you're alluding to right now. But I wonder if aesthetically the things that are more challenging and you suck at would provide better aesthetics. So again, I'm gonna tell you this
Starting point is 00:37:09 because I'm also equally, I love the muscle, equally I like the aesthetics. I blow up with the low reps. The the moderate reps, I get good results, especially if it's novel, but I'll gain muscle so fast with the lower reps, which typically is in the case for people. The thing that I noticed that really shifted me
Starting point is 00:37:29 like into training this way now, way more consistently because of you guys is, my whole life really up until the last like 10 years, I felt like I had this look where I get aired up in the gym. Yeah, and then it deflates. And then I deflate so much I leave. And to the point where I sometimes would feel, even in my mid-20s, I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:49 God, you can barely tell I really work out. Now, obviously that's, there was a little bit more fear. Yeah, there's a little bit more fear and insecurity there. But I notice a huge difference today after running so many heavy cycles of. It sticks around. Yeah. I don't have as much of a,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I don't look that much crazier when I air out. Yeah, you want to get a crazy pump doing sets of two. Right. But then when it's, you know, two days I haven't been in the gym, I look more muscular. That's a really common anecdote. I wish we had studies to support that. I don't even know what the study would look like,
Starting point is 00:38:19 but that's a very old common anecdote among bodybuilders. Is low reps makes you look hard and gives you a granite look. Higher reps gives you more of a round full pumped look to your body. Yeah, to your point about like power, I was thinking about that like my best sort of, I feel like my physique or whatever actually like changes the most is when I'm like doing sprints or like with the sled and I'm doing like jump rope, I'm doing like a very explosive kettlebell work, like shit that I'm like accelerating through and having like, you know, as much weight as I can add,
Starting point is 00:38:54 but like, and I attribute that probably to all the years of training in athletics and how I had to just respond really quickly. And then it was a lot of like really abrupt, like fast speed, like generate force and then stop. Yeah, I think you guys are both better at that than me than like the one rep maxed out of training, like the ability for you to call upon more
Starting point is 00:39:18 and that one rep, that's why I think I have that, it's not that big of a difference between one and three or five reps, the weight for me is because I'm lifting it the same way. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to say you like because of all your sports training like that. And because you love my head or hanger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So what I think there, I'm probably technically stronger. You guys are just better at generating generating that one rep max. So that's my my theory. I'm going to stick. Probably more pretty. And I want to stick to that. Stronger and the main. This is the perfect time to talk about one rep max
Starting point is 00:39:49 because we have a guy in our Instagram every week when we post our qua meme. He's asking, what is your one rep max? Oh, wow. He's always asking us that. He's asking us that. Multiple times, he uses multiple names. Each of us?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Uh, yeah, he wants to know what your one rep max is. Here's all time or like right now because I okay Yeah, I think it's all time. Yeah, here's what you're gonna find Justin and I are gonna go back and forth for first place Adam's always second So like I'll go first third first, I'm not the strong just just the base of Bulletin shit on all yeah anything I've done so but no you're right I think I'm the middle on, I'm not the strongest in any one left.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Generally, I've only squatted 420. That's the most I've ever squatted my life. 420. I've never deadlifted more than 550. And my best bench press, three, I cannot, three, 40, three, 15 for sure. I cannot remember if I hit three, 40 or not. Let's say three, 15, because I can't.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Throw in overhead press too, why are you writing it? Oh, I've seen you do, I've seen you do three, 15 on incline. I know, so maybe. You gotta have at least a three, 15. Maybe it was three, 75 then. It was, no I've never hit four. It was three, 75. Okay, maybe it's, you're three, 65.
Starting point is 00:41:03 It was, I've done three, 15 on incline. No, no, you did three plates in a quarter. Remember, it's that's three, 65. Okay, I made it use your 365. It's your right. I've got 315 on ink. No, no, you did three plates in a quarter I remember it's that's 365. Okay. I remember it was that was 365 Yes, that's what I did for a clean clean and jerk Why get throwing an exercise none of us to talk about I Care I bicep crew I should have killed, I bicep cruel, like I f**k. Shit the f**k, I'm not gonna say. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna overhead press,
Starting point is 00:41:25 you know what that is, because this is two-all-four, Doug said. You know what, I've actually never in my life one-re- because I have a volume set. So strict or push? Push, come on. Okay, yeah, push. I've never, I've never one-rept marks that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 315. F**k! You overhead push press 315. Push press 315. You're a moose. But that's like college like I'm okay That's so crazy. Yeah, I'm gonna be bench press 250. That's so fucking weird. I know Well, it's like a disproportionate weirdo
Starting point is 00:41:53 He can't even carry his own language. That's always been my strongest lift those overhead press like yeah I know you've always been really good. It's the I mean the bench I got I got okay I mean what did you hit 4055. 405. That's massive. Was the biggest I've ever did with that. And then, you know, squat was the other one, but deadlift is the most serious. Hold on, what was your squat? Squat, I got up to 455, I believe.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I don't know, I got more, I think at 475, I might have hit. You did, I remember saying that behind you guys on everything. 475 would be the highest I got for that but deadlift No, I'm I think like four five Deadlift is good. I feel better. Oh so weak. Yeah, I hit us with your with your shit. Okay, so my strongest bench was 365 ever I can't even I don't think I do three 15 now, but I did 365 Deadlift I need to be at least the same same. There's nothing I'm ahead of.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I just know it because it's a quarter. It's like, I did 366. 365 and a half. 366. And what did I have for that? With those fractional loads. I know I had three hits on there. 3, 65 bench, overhead press, push press, 225.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Deadlift, 605. And what am I missing here? So a bench, overhead press, deadlift. Squat, 450. Actually did 450 recently, it was the most ever did. I heard rumors you're working on a seven-hundee. I wanna try and get a 700 pound deadlift by the end of the year, but, you know, there's all kinds of stuff
Starting point is 00:43:15 that can get in the way, mostly injuries. So that's what happens. Mostly injuries get in the way. I mean, I really have never, you guys inspired that for me. I had never trained. I actually used to take a lot of pride in being the guy who, I'd never,, you guys inspired that for me. I had never trained. I actually used to take a lot of pride in being the guy who, I'd never, why would I run red maps? I was just careful with what I was looking at.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I mean, the truth is you've looked the strongest. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha. So that's what you can't believe in. I've been the biggest dad of all of that. I've never seen, dude. I remember meeting Adam at Starbucks, and I was just trying to work with him again.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And you were like, just started getting the body building and you're fucking shoulders. Like this big dude, you're like, there is piano fuck in the shoulders. I was like, whoa dude, you're huge. I mean, when we were doing that, I totally remember that phase because never had I, and I don't know if you guys recall this in your journey, but we've been training lots of people for a long time, and we've been obviously reading and studying, and we all have a bunch of national certification, Justin with his degree. And for the first time in my life, I really felt like I truly applied all my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Everything I had and was disciplined to like, okay, what if I took what I needed? Just obsessive. Yeah, and was disciplined to like, okay, what if I took what I need? Just obsessive. Yeah, and was obsessed about it. And I remember Justin and I would meet probably once a week. And I'd, problem, this is crazy. I'm like, I'm like, this I'm really this. I'm noticing this.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I see this. I remember. I never cared enough to apply it to that level. I'll tell you a distance. I'll tell you a memory with you guys. When we very first got that first studio, over there in Willow Glen, the tiny little hole.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah. And it's the wee, it's like early mind pump is before we, and this is like within the first, how do we, when did we get that studio, month three? Yeah, month four. So this is like the fourth month,
Starting point is 00:44:56 I've known you guys were working together, and we were going for a walk down the street to get some lunch or something, and I'd never seen this in real life. Okay, now remember Adam is in the middle of bodybuilding. So he's competing. He's a pro. He just got his pro card. He's gonna compete in some pro shows.
Starting point is 00:45:12 We're walking down the street. I've never seen this happen before in real life. Women across the street. Take your shirt off. I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, this is the weirdest thing. All in. Like no shame.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I was like, this is a... A lady Like no shame, just like, a lady almost like crash her car. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God, he's so beautiful. I think there's something about when you do, when you build a physique to that, I think that even women thinks it's like, women think it's okay to do that.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Like, can't call like that. Or guys do that shit all the time, right? But girls don't really do that. And I never experience that. And you act the way you've been grabbed, do I say? And they get like hands in. Hey, he acted like, it probably did. He acted like it happened all the time, right? But girls don't really do that. And I never experienced that. And you actively, I mean, time, do I say, they get like hands in it? He acted like,
Starting point is 00:45:47 and it probably did. He acted like it happened all the time. He just kept walking. I wouldn't say, I'm like, I wouldn't say it happened all the time, but I did experience that type of stuff when I got to that level.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It was, you could feel it. You could feel people. I mean, when you, well, you're also tall. When you're tall, yeah, when you're very, I didn't have a tall. And then for the first time in my life, when you, uh, well, you're also tall. When you're tall, yeah, you're very, I don't know tall.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And then for the first time in my life, I could really say like, there was a period of time where anywhere I went, I was the most, well, I was the most jacked dude. Like, I mean, when you work in gyms, so that that's not often. There's always a stronger guy, a bigger guy, or whatever guy, but for a period of time in my life, like everywhere I, we also got to the limit of, cause there's a point where you get too big, where then just people are staring
Starting point is 00:46:30 cause you look like a grotesque freak, which all of us I'm sure would enjoy anyway, but you didn't get past that point. Yeah, I don't think I ever got to. No, you were a physique, right? So you were, I mean, extremely muscular, but you weren't like pro bodybuilder, like what is that mutant doing over there?
Starting point is 00:46:44 So you just got that attention. But I remember that. I remember like them screaming. And I'm looking over like what are they screaming at? Yeah, those girls are screaming at Adam. They're happy again. Take your shirt off like this is the funniest thing I ever seen in my life. Las Vegas when I went pro with Katrina out there that was it's think she's so cool too. This is just another reason why I love my wife so much like how she handled that. She's confident. Like. This is just another reason why I love my wife so much, like how she handled that. She's confident. Like we are at wet republic when David Guida is spinning,
Starting point is 00:47:09 the place is completely sold out. So you're talking about like thousands of people in this place and I had just the night before I go pro. So like, you're peaked out at Vegas where there's a lot of great physiques and stuff like that. And so here I am at this pool party. I'm peaked out at Vegas where there's a lot of great physiques and stuff like that. And so here I am at this pool party.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And again, I'm the most jacked person in entire place. So like the whole place, and I was up in this like VIP area, and the whole place like was, it got to a point where security came up and asked me, you'll have this line of women that wanna come up and talk to you. And Katrina was just like, let him come in. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And they all came in like one, they like, that's when you're like, I'm gonna have a baby with this woman. Yeah, oh, dude, I just, I don't know. Cause that's a turn on. Oh, such a, If you're with a woman that is that confident to where it doesn't phaser because she knows she has you.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah, she has you. Oh, yeah. She literally has you when she's like that cause it just makes you want her more. And people don't like, or she doesn't like when I tell the original story, but I mean, those are the things for me, because we've been in fitness for so long,
Starting point is 00:48:09 that I've met a lot of very insecure people, and so finding a woman that was that confident, that secure to where it was her who was just like, yeah, bring them all in. She's like holding the camera, you know, I think, the girls are like, oh, you know, touching my chest, and all over the dead.
Starting point is 00:48:23 She's like, you know, like, I know where he's going tonight. Like, she had that swag about her, where she didn't even trip on it. She's walking out with her trophy. Yeah, and you know, I think back now, and I'm like, dude, what a crazy, like that will forever be remembered as such an amazing, like just weekend and moment for me, like how easily if I was dating someone else
Starting point is 00:48:42 in my life, that could have like killed the whole thing. Like imagine I had an easy girl. Well, not just an insolent jealous. I mean, it could have been. Not just an insecure girl, but almost any other, because that's a high level of security. They're security. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And then there's like, oh, this is disrespectful. Don't do that with my man, which is very understandable. Right. That's at like a level above security. So I think almost anybody else, it would have ruined the date because they would have felt so like. Yeah, and then particularly ruined a really important big day for a moment for me.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Like I look back at that as like a top five moment in my life of that achieving that and being able to experience the whole part of feeling a mate like. I had a similar experience in the reverse. So with Jessica, when we first started dating, we went to a party, I think I told this story a long time ago, we're at a party and this older guy is like kind of talking
Starting point is 00:49:34 to Jessica or whatever. And then he comes up to me and goes, man, your daughter's gorgeous, like she's really pretty. I'm like, my daughter. And I'm like, she's not here. And he's like, your daughter. I'm like, you think she's my's like your daughter. I'm like you think Now the reason why I had a reverse feeling of it. It's that kind of felt cool about it. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:49:52 It looks she looks that she's so hot. Yeah She looks like she's a big daughter cool. Oh my god She's like that guy. Did you just try to tease you? I'm like I think you literally met that honey I mean that I looked at old but oh, whatever I think you really would mean that. I looked at old, but oh, whatever, it's cute with me. Anyway, I'm gonna change gears here, a little AI talk. I read an interesting article that is fascinating because obviously we've talked about AI so many times on the show, but AI has flipped something so hard
Starting point is 00:50:17 in its head that I find this so fascinating, so interesting and a bit ironic. For the longest time, we've been communicated to or kids have been told that the jobs you need to get if you wanna be stable, secure, create wealth or make good money is white collar. White collar jobs, white collar jobs, work at a desk, work on a computer, I know you're good.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Program, I'm reading articles now that are literally saying the jobs that will get taken away, that'll get replaced first and quickly by AI or all white collar jobs. The last jobs to be taken over will be the blue collar. That's right. Plummers, electricians,
Starting point is 00:50:53 there's gonna be only employment. I've been sounding that alarm, dude, since day one. I mean, I, I, how weird will that be? An interesting thing. The people with jobs are gonna be plumbers. Well, that will create, too. By the way, it's a higher demand there, lower there. Increased productivity on the white collar side,
Starting point is 00:51:07 so you can less expensive scale grow there. And then the things that you just can't, that'll drive the price up to that. Could you imagine if our society would flip like that if all of that? That's a flip, right? Well, look at, I mean, just look at, just your general landscape of people,
Starting point is 00:51:21 like do you think that like most people have skills to fix things or even know how to do that? They just don't. It's not even more than ever now. More than ever. And again, that's not going away because shit breaks and we need physical, capable people to come in and that's gonna be in high demand.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And for people wondering why this is the case, to have AI be able to do white color jobs is easier because it's all done on a computer. It's all done on the internet. Blue color jobs require a physical robot to be able to go in, maneuver, and fix it out still. Which requires far more technology, far more advanced technology. Well, look at where the 3D printing houses are right now compared to a custom house. Right. and fix the outstill. Which requires far more technology, far more advanced technology. Well, look at where the 3D printing houses are
Starting point is 00:52:06 right now compared to a custom house, right? Right. Like a contractor bill. So nobody's running big. Yeah, it is not even close. It's cool that we have something to do that. Having a robot electrician would cost you a million dollars, right? Versus an actual human. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:18 So, so is that weird? Yeah. And wild how it flipped on its head. Straight. But it's kind of cool. It is kind of cool. I. But it's kind of cool. It is kind of cool. I do think it's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:52:26 It's like almost like it's getting us back to the things that are. Is it like our little ones, like my two-year-old? Is that what I'm gonna tell them to do? Be an electrician. Yeah, you gotta go do like go work with your grandfather. Haven't teach you how to do construction because that's gonna be the job.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Right. That's wild. Yeah, I've had my boys shadowing. My dad's been teaching them like woodworking skills and things and yeah, I would love love that if there's like metal shop, there's auto shop, there's like things that they can learn and like hands-on kind of learning. It's just like one of those things they just don't incorporate that at all in our schools anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:56 They've gotten rid of it. Have they in most schools? Yeah, I did it. Like, you know, I did all the shops just because I enjoyed it. You know what they do in school does not prepare you for life at all anymore in the story. They used to also teach, did you guys know this? My mom told me this. I didn't know this when she went to school. They used to teach you how to balance a checkbook, how what a home mortgage is, what interest rates are.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Really? Yes. She learned all that. She learned how to write a check in school. What era? This was in the 70s. Yeah, I think it was, was it home echo? Took it out. Home echo was something else, but they taught her that in school. What era? This was in the 70s. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I think it was, was it home echo? No. Home echo was something else. But they taught her that in school. Yeah. Kids now don't know how to do a damn thing. Did you learn? Yeah, I definitely didn't.
Starting point is 00:53:33 No. You don't remember anything I said to you. I don't remember anything like that. I don't remember anything like that. Did you remember anything that you got from my grade school that was a value to you? High school. Not a lot, really. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Nothing practical. Yeah, practical. I recall. Yeah, but you had music. We did have music and art and PE. And PE. So those three are gone. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm a
Starting point is 00:53:55 venture schools now or junior highs. Peel actually. It's all actually regular, if you like, or, you know, you have to find those clubs and you have to like, be ashamed to have created hell, creative healthy people, you know. Yeah, God. I know. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:54:08 We got rid of those things and they're so important. So anyway, yeah, we'll see. I've been along the lines of education. You know, Jessica and I are pretty set that we're gonna educate the younger ones through homeschooling, which basically means just. I can't wait to hear that, Prost. We're gonna facilitate it, right?
Starting point is 00:54:22 So what it is. I was reading some statistics on it and talking to people and I have friends that do this and very successful with it. And one of my friends is like, he goes, dude, he goes, my kids ace all the standard tests and we do approximately one to two hours of schooling a day. He goes, I don't know what they're doing in these schools.
Starting point is 00:54:42 He goes, but they literally, the schooling part is like one to two hours a day, and they'll ace all the standard tests. No problem. Everything else they do is like real hands-on, like going out, playing, building, taking them to places, that kind of stuff. Right. Museums, that kind of stuff. You know that article I brought up the other day about the average time that dad spends face time with the kid?
Starting point is 00:55:01 That was, it was actually like a pro homeschooling article. It was talking about that that's one of the greatest values of, you know, these parents that are homeschooling their kids. Is it just it forces that face to face time of like teaching and educating, going back and forth and having dialogue with your child like, and just the value of it? I want to give you another example. So one of the things that parents who think about this are like, how am I going to do that?
Starting point is 00:55:26 Is there like, how am I going to, like, because one of the tenets of homeschooling is that you follow the child, right? Because a child that's passionate about something will learn so much just because they're into it. And we all know this as kids. Like, you have your kid that struggles in school, but then they can name every Pokemon or they can tell you every Lego because they're into it, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:43 So, that's one of the things you do is you, and so parents are like, well, how do I get them to learn math if they hate math? They have to learn math. Or how do I get them to learn to write? Because they hate to write. I'll give you guys an example. So I had a friend whose kid, they did this and you explore,
Starting point is 00:55:56 and they just, all of a sudden, they just had this pat, for a second, right? It wasn't forever, but for a couple of years, just loved cooking. Love cooking. Well, how they learn math through measurements with cooking, fractions with cooking, how they learn how to write, they started writing recipes and blogs around cooking
Starting point is 00:56:11 because they were into it, they learned all the skills, but based through, or filtered through this thing, they were passionate. Now wrap your brain around what happens when AI gets involved in that, how better that's gonna be. Imagine this, so to your point, you're making right now.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So my son comes home right now and he's like, can you teach my kid this? Or like this? So he had this little worksheet, and it's like, he's at that, they're trying to get him to even learn addition right now, which is crazy right at three years old. And it's like, you know, there'll be like four apples,
Starting point is 00:56:39 visual, and then it'll say four underneath it, and then it'll be plus one apple. He's at the point where he's just adding one more to figure out what the next number is, right? But imagine if I could input into AI, like make this angry birds. Oh, yeah. And so it's like, he knows all the characters
Starting point is 00:56:52 from angry birds, and it was like four angry birds, plus one more, you know, red or whatever that is. Yeah, we need five angry birds to break this building. I can check, yes. I can just see like his, he would be even more into it because of that And so imagine tools like that that you could do wasn't that sort of Elon Musk was kind of bringing that up in terms of like Creating more of a gamified like video game experience of education. Yeah, how effective that was Yeah, I've ever been talking about that and I was like yeah
Starting point is 00:57:20 It just that takes a lot of creativity and a lot of thought to be able to do that. So the AI would definitely be so. Well, and the reason why this conversation is coming up is I show Jessica that clip that I showed you guys. I don't know who the woman was, I'd love to find this talk, but she talks about how the traditional education system is so damaging to so many kids.
Starting point is 00:57:40 And she essentially said something like this. We artificially segregate our children into same age groups. Reason why it's artificial is that never happens in the real world, right? Kids are only around their own chairs. You force them to be sedative all day long so sit still indoors all day long. Kids naturally would never do that
Starting point is 00:57:58 but this is what we force them to do. Then we teach them through artificial textbooks essentially. Here's what you're learning. Here's what we're going to read in a textbook versus contextualized in the real world, which is how they would normally learn. So she said, it's no wonder that there's a significant percentage of children that have to be
Starting point is 00:58:18 druged in order to be able to follow the system, and why there's so many children that feel like they're failures. The reason why this resonates with me so strongly is, I, you guys know me, I love learning. I love learning. I love learning. Hated school. I'm in the place where you're supposed to learn and I hated it because
Starting point is 00:58:35 it didn't even realize how much I love learning. So how's that? Yeah, that's how I felt too. I didn't, I didn't think I liked like really, because you didn't like school. Yeah, because I didn't like school. And then when I found things that was passion- I was about to find quickly real. It's so funny though, because when I lay look back,
Starting point is 00:58:50 I remember my parents, they used to use me like a little party trick when their friends were over. They would like, and I had to be, let's see here, I'm in that house, under fourth grade, so I'd be like third grade or without. And they would have me come in, at this point in my life, I'm hardcore and collecting baseball cards,
Starting point is 00:59:04 and I love sports already. And they would have, come in at this point in my life, I'm hardcore and collecting baseball cards and I love sports already. And they would have, watch Adam do this and they would quiz me on teams, players, the stats, all of that, and I'd be able to rattle all of you. And it's because I spent hours and hours and hours in my bedroom. Passionate. Looking at the baseball cards and reading their stats
Starting point is 00:59:20 and how many years they played and what their batting average was and how many home runs they hid in RBI's and all these things like that. And it's like dude, like obviously I had a passion to learn and study, read something like that. It's just that it was baseball. So I didn't imagine if it was fostered.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Right, like it maybe if we use that as a way of teaching me and educating me other things, it's like boy, that would have been probably a little more kid. All right, I'm gonna take another left here. So I want you guys to guess the top two things that people, both men and women, use to judge attractiveness or that they'll look at and observe that will determine someone's attractiveness.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Physical things. Symmetry. Okay, so symmetry is, I'm sorry, top three things. Symmetry's up there. Symmetry's one of them. Okay. So what do we do? So symmetry, it's gonna be a physical, like healthy. Hygiene? Yeah, likemmetry is one of them. Okay. Now, like, so what do we want? Two more. So symmetry, it's gonna be a physical, like, healthy...
Starting point is 01:00:07 Hygiene? Yeah, like... More specific. Okay, so like, like, well, good skin. Good skin. Skin is the other one. Okay. Skin is the other one.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Not muscular. No, that's up there, but it's not one of these top ones. Yeah. Okay, so I've got two right now, so there's... So symmetry, because that just shows good DNA health. Right. Skin, because I've got two right now. So symmetry, uh, because that just shows good DNA health, right? Skin because your skin will go on your teeth. Oh, teeth. Good call. Yeah. Yeah. Skin, uh, skin and teeth. But skin, and this is for both men and women, having good skin, uh, demonstrates good health. Um, and it's, it's above all the other stuff
Starting point is 01:00:42 that we can measure of health. It's all, it's above all the other things that we, that we a health. It's above all the other things that we talk about when it comes to attractiveness. Which leads me to our partner, Caldera. I get compliments. Great partner. I get compliments on that because of that. You're skin. I mean, I just did my, I had the day in the life yesterday,
Starting point is 01:00:55 right? I know this is different, a day, air day, where that, but for when this happened when we recorded, I did it yesterday and was sharing that, like I religiously use that face cream because I can see such a difference. There's not a lot of things that you can do, you know, or buy, you know, or take,
Starting point is 01:01:13 or it's just like you see in profound. Yeah, profound difference, like right away, like it's a profound difference on how much it makes my skin look better, healthier, younger. It looks like it takes years off from my loss. So yeah, I'm sold, which is funny because we did not want to never thought I'd do that. We never thought that would be a part, but I mean, sold me.
Starting point is 01:01:32 So we got a shout out. Justin does. Yeah. OK, so I have an interesting shout out. This is one just because it's a fun one, right? So this is a, basically, it's a group of guys in this band. And they play songs like they just do instrument it's a group of guys are in this band and they play Songs like they just do instrumentals for a lot of like hit like rap songs and like gangster rap songs and they're like
Starting point is 01:01:53 Nantora's B.I.G. and like you got like snoop and all these like so anything you'd heard that was like normally synthesized Like the playing guitar drums and like a. And like they just groove these. So every day I just like a new one pops up and it's like totally like, you know, just a cool jam to listen to. So what's in there? OMA-O-M-A.U.K. OMA.U.K.
Starting point is 01:02:18 All right, cool. Hey, real quick, you heard us talking about peptides. One in particular is BPC157. But there's a lot of peptides, one in particular is BPC157, but there's a lot of peptides out there and they're pretty remarkable. They've been shown to burn body fat, help improve recovery, healing, build muscle, stimulate growth hormone output. The stuff is legit, it's real, but you want to go through a doctor and you want to go
Starting point is 01:02:40 through a pharmacy, the stuff that's online, who knows what's in it, it's all research chemicals, no joke, that's other selling it. So, we work with a group at mphormones.com. Go there, fill out the questionnaire, meet with an expert in a professional and get actual doctor prescribed, pharmaceutical-made peptides. Again, it's mphormones.com. All right, back to the show. First question is from Emma Rosa B. How can I get a solid core?
Starting point is 01:03:08 No banging abs, but a really strong engaged core. How do you train to naturally engage them in normal day-to-day activities to prevent injury? Oh, heavy carries. Nothing will give you a core that could brace like heavy carries. Now, of course, you have the traditional, you know, like planks and stuff like that, but you want to tell me real world stability. I don't think Eugene Towler would agree with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. I saw him talk about that. That's a good example of like the bodybuilder, like slant, right? You were a bodybuilder, so everything's gonna be kind of slanted in that direction. Yeah. But anyway, heavy carries, nothing's gonna do that to your core like heavy carries.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And don't wear a weight belt because a weight belt changes muscle recruitment patterns. But when you're doing heavy overhead carries or rat carries or farmer walks or suitcase carries, like your core has to engage through locomotion, right? Through walking. And so you learn to brace and stabilize your core and it strengthens in that position
Starting point is 01:04:05 It really really does a good job on protecting the spine. So I mean, I can't think of anything. I love Rotational and anti-rotational stuff too. So like directionals and go like heavy dumbbell rows and You know training them and in one phase with putting emphasis on keeping your hips and spine and everything completely straight and rigid, while you're in that place, you can kind of the anti-rotational benefits from it, and then actually training a phase where you incorporate rotation into the row.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I think there's lots of benefits there. Wood chops, I think, are really good for it. So what you said, I think, for like a solid stable, like I think that I agree with that for sure, but then definitely having some sort of a rotational, anti-rotational component because that's normally when you see injury is when somebody moves in that manner and they just haven't trained. Yeah, and also to being able to control. So if you work through the strength part of it and you work your way more towards power, like so with
Starting point is 01:05:01 core, being able to accelerate with rotation and be able to control that as well and decelerate. So for instance, like you're throwing a medicine ball and you're tossing it, you know, laterally to be able to generate that kind of force to explosively throw something with weight, but then also be able to control your body back and ground yourself. So those are both those elements you're talking about in terms of rotational, ability, anti-rotational ability is going to protect your spine on any of those. Because if you think of when most people get some kind of injury, it's a very quick explosive movement that they
Starting point is 01:05:42 haven't prepped their body for and their body overreacts or underreacts. Yeah, that's a good point. But notice we picked exercises that are a nontraditional too, right? Yeah, so I wouldn't say crunches, let me say. Right. Obviously, your standard set ups and things with that ad value, right? They're, I mean, it was not. They'll develop, they'll muscular develop.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah, but I feel like it's more the aesthetic angle, right? Versus having a really solid functional core, like your ability to carry something over your head really heavy and walk and keep stable and spine or roll a ball explosively to the left or the right is like that you want to have a really strong core. That is a really strong core is the ability to do that really well. You can have beautiful looking abs from doing crunches all day long and dieting, but if you could fold like a lawn chair as soon as you put something over your head.
Starting point is 01:06:27 So that is a more functional strong core. Yeah, and you know, when I used to do this with clients, you wanna talk about ways of preventing back injury or even alleviating back pain. One thing too, what the heavy carries is the goal is to walk, you wanna walk with crazy stability. So you don't want sway or, so that's too heavy. You should be able to walk real steady,
Starting point is 01:06:50 real controlled, heel toe, heel toe, and have a really strong brace core because what we're trying to train is stability. Not how much weight I can hold. If you have the luxury to do this, I love to do that barefoot. I like to take the shoes off and walk real slow. And like you said, I'm feeling every step in the ground.
Starting point is 01:07:07 For me, I have a slight anterior pelvic tilt so my ass sticks up and out a little bit. So I'm actually kind of tucking my tailbone and engaging my core while I have it overhead. And I'm thinking about every step as I walk across the grass really slow. It's like the kind of light in the load, even though I can do heavier weight over my head, the point you're making is something that you have to think about. Or also
Starting point is 01:07:28 defeats the purpose if you just kind of put whatever you can handle. Next question is from V cardamon one. What are the best exercises to work the lower lats? Okay, so the lats are interesting because the attachments of the lats do run kind of along the sides there of the back. So you can emphasize a little more on the lower versus the upper, although this is a bit of splitting hairs. So what I'm going to say is really about just targeting the lats more than other back muscles. And that would be a pull-up or a pull-down. Nothing, that is a very direct lat exercise. Now, lower lats, if we're trying to target them more and again This is splitting hair so I don't think it's gonna make a huge difference, but
Starting point is 01:08:10 You want to be able to feel the stretch in the lower lats so a closer grip with a stretch at the top Would would be able to do that so like a close grip pull down or a close grip pull up We'll give you that stretch at the top. And again, if they direct lat exercise, whereas a row, rows are great general back exercises, but you're also gonna engage a lot of rhomboids, mitrapezius and other muscles in the back. But if it's just like pure lats, like those pull down and pull up movements,
Starting point is 01:08:37 like you can't beat those. So I'm gonna give a non-traditional movement, because I do think that those are the like your go-to, like if you were to do the big rocks like make sure You're checking that you got to be doing a pull up you got to be doing some sort of a lap pull down wide and narrow to me That's like the staple. I also think that most people kind of know that one of the biggest gains I saw my last when I was competing was when I started to Snatchgrip deadlift Snatchgrip deadlift just needing to stabilize. Yeah, I think just because it creates
Starting point is 01:09:07 almost like this heavy isometric contraction for the LATS because you're in order to stabilize the whole opposition and to load. I mean, I could do that with over 315 pounds. There is no LAT pull down, no pull, nothing I'm doing, that is over 315 pounds. And so, and I didn't do it with that intent.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Like I didn't go into Snatch Crypt Deadlift. Like, oh, I want to build it with that intent. Like I didn't go into snatch-cripped deadlift. Like, oh, I want to build my lads. Like I was literally just getting good at that. And it built my lads. Like, I- Because it has to stabilize. If you think about the positioning, right, as you're bending over and standing up,
Starting point is 01:09:35 the lads are contracting. And because your arms are wide, they really have to stabilize. And it's novel. It was such a novel movement to my body. I had done a million lap pull downs pull up. That was what map strong? Yeah, yeah, map strong.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I noticed it's something similar. Did you mention heavy pullovers at all? I mean, is that actually my- That's a direct-latt exercise. Yeah, and I don't even miss that. I don't know about lower or whatever, but like it definitely the stretch of that is like for me is humongous.
Starting point is 01:10:00 No, great, I don't know how we missed that. I, that's a must also. One of my favorite, there's only, there's a few machines that I'll put up There with free weights for me and one of them is Nautilus pullover machine. I love that machine. There's a lot of pullover machines And I like most of them, but the old school Nautilus pullover or the chain with the chain. Yeah, I mean you Mean you sell on oh, that was like I never felt my last I was a blue one at the the Oh, that was like I never felt my last I was a blue one at the the
Starting point is 01:10:28 The golds, which is I think American barbell now that's off of Monterrey road that's the last time I use one. Yeah, yeah, that's a great. That's a great machine That one you'll find like Arthur Jones, you know having Casey Vider or Mike Mensa use and they used to prescribe it before pull downs But they would do pre-exhaust or whatever, but I love that I don't know how to pull over. Yeah, I don't know how we would. That's the ball of it adjusting and not say that. I think we would all agree. Well, I just, yeah, I don't want to say anything. I tell you what though, the, all the things we just name right there, you build that into your routine.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You're gonna hit some laps. Yeah, you're gonna build some laps. Next question is from exomexor. Can you guys please give your opinion on meal prep companies? Do you think they're worth it for someone who's extremely busy? I find myself not really eating much because of work, so I wonder if I should invest in these expensive meal prep companies to maintain a good nutritional intake.
Starting point is 01:11:14 They are extremely valuable if you're very busy. Because now there's a lot of, okay, I have to preface this. There's a lot of meal prep companies, they're all the same. They're not all equal, yeah. Yeah, who's the one that said? Daily dose. Daily dose is the best one I've had so far. They're very health focused, meaning macros are good, ingredients are good.
Starting point is 01:11:34 They're not gonna, you know, it's not like eating out, right? It's almost, it's almost like fat food sourcing. It's really good, it's really good, really well sourced. And if you're trying to be fit, healthy, hit macros, also stick to whole natural foods and have convenience, I don't know a better way to do it than a meal prep company. Because otherwise, it'll end up happening
Starting point is 01:11:53 as either, A, you have to prep yourself, B, you're gonna have to eat out a lot or see if you can have to eat process foods. And eating out, you don't know what kind of oil they use, they're heavy-handed or underhanded with the ingredients. Process foods, we know why that's not a great idea. And then of course, if you're busy prepping yourself, it's kind of out of the question.
Starting point is 01:12:10 So. I am a huge fan of this stuff. The only reason why we are not officially sponsored by a meal prep company is because the ad doesn't make sense. The margins are not big. The margins are so small that, and our commercials are so expensive, that we would have to sell a trillion things of food for it to justify the spin.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So the reason why we don't work with a company is purely that. It's not because we're not fans of it or we don't use it. I mean, right now, our friend is sending over Don Saladino, is sending over from his company, the Daily Dose, as like a just a solid hookup. He's just taking care of us. And by the way, here's another thing I hate about meal prep companies is it's so hard for me to say gluten-free, dairy-free. I said that to him. Everything they've sent me is gluten-free, dairy-free, everything. So they have those specifications. I think there's so much value in this.
Starting point is 01:13:03 If you're someone who's disciplined, who will eat the meals and be consistent with it and you're okay with like that, like having pre-packaged stuff, some people are weird about that. Like some people are just like, oh, I have to have fresh made every day type of stuff. And it's like, but this one's fresh, it's not frozen.
Starting point is 01:13:17 No, I know, but I mean, like when I mean my fresh is like freshly made. Making yourself. Yeah, making yourself. And so, you know, you have to, you have to assess if you're that type of person, if you're willing to follow it, oh my God, it's of great value. One of the greatest challenge of sticking to a diet is having something prepared for you.
Starting point is 01:13:32 That's why I meal prep personally. It's why on Sundays, we tend to do that. Just did a video of me doing that for the next day with Katrina yesterday, like having what I have learned in my experience of training and dieting myself, even competitively, is that if I don't have something prepared and ready for me, the likelihood that I'm gonna make a good choice is extremely low in comparison to when I have something ready.
Starting point is 01:13:58 If I've got something ready, then it's just purely a mental discipline. It's like, oh man, I'm craving those chips, or oh, I really want some fast food, or oh, ice cream sounds so good, but I know I have a meal in there. Then it's literally I just have to discipline myself to like go over there, heat that meal up. As soon as I start taking bites of it, I'll already forget that thing I'm craving. I won't even worry about it. And if I don't have something ready and I those cravings hit me, oh, it's way harder. It's way harder because then I
Starting point is 01:14:20 go, I gotta make something and what do we have to go to grow? And then you end up like, okay, we'll eat out. And then as an end option. Yeah. So yeah, I'm huge fan way harder. I think I'm gonna make something and what do we have? I just got to go to grocery. And then you end up like, okay, well, I'll eat out. And then I was like, yeah, I'm having an option. Yes. So yeah, I'm huge fan of this. Yeah, I mean, look, some of the greatest success I ever had with clients who were busy was through working with these companies.
Starting point is 01:14:35 And then they would just have everything set up for them. And then they would do something like, well, Saturday, I like to go out and enjoy myself. So that's the only day I don't do this. But they would have four meals ready to go. You go on your fridge, pull them out. Here's what I'm meeting today. Yeah, and deal. Even if it's just like the one meal, you know, is the worst, right? Like, it's lunch because it's, you, you skip it or, you know, it's one of those things that like,
Starting point is 01:14:57 your whole day can just like easily get away from you. Like, at least if you have that one thing that's like controlled, I think it's value. I do like two prep meals a day. That's kind of my thing. What about breakfast lunch or lunch? No, the middle ones, right? So breakfast I'll make like our either meal one, the creatures of habit. That'll normally do that for our breakfast.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It'll be my lunch, what I don't know if you call it, two lunches because I do like two in the middle of the day, so the two in the middle of the day. I normally do my meal one or if it's on the weekend, we make breakfast and then Katrina makes dinner every single night. So it's the two in the middle of the day, right? So the two in the middle of the day, we know I normally do my meal one or if it's on the weekend, we make breakfast and then Katrina makes dinner every single night. So it's the two in the middle that make the most sense. Now I do want to stress this again. They're not all, all these meal prep companies are not all created equal and I've shot out daily dose. Daily dose is five. That's the one. That's the 90% or just I didn't like. I do think personally. Doug, do you know if they, do they do something for
Starting point is 01:15:43 our audience? Do they get a deal? Yes, we do have a link. It's mpdailydose.com. And there's a code for 20% off your first order. It's a mind pump 20, so they could use that. Next question is by health by Nikki J. Are high protein diets actually bad for longevity? No, this is so terrible.
Starting point is 01:16:02 So here's what this myth comes from the fact that that, who was it that did these studies that said this first? It doesn't, who got popular? Okay, so there's studies that show if you go calorie restricted for a long time, you expand, you extend longevity. Okay, that's by the way, there's quality of life
Starting point is 01:16:22 and then there's longevity. Will you live longer kind of starving yourself your whole life versus fueling yourself? Probably. I'm not saying overeating and I'm just saying fueling yourself probably. Are you going to have the same quality life? No, like I don't know if you want to feel weak and tired all the time. So maybe, and then quality life contributes to longevity as well. So maybe not maybe not even that.
Starting point is 01:16:45 But this comes from Pete from studies that show that protein activates M Tore, mammalian target repamycin and M Tore signals muscle growth. M Tore also causes cancer cells to grow. So people go, we need to keep M Tore down so that we can reduce cancer. No, there is a very big difference between having cancer and what you need to do versus not having cancer and what you need to do. You know what fuel's cancer?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Fats, carbs, proteins, amino acids, like food, like almost anything that fuel cells, fuel's cancer. So any pro-cancer environment, you don't want to stimulate mTOR. When you don't have cancer, totally fine. And mTOR is a good thing. It builds muscle and enhances recovery, that kind of stuff. Protein is great for longevity. I would make the argument that a high protein diet is one of the best things you can do
Starting point is 01:17:35 for longevity. Because if you tease out those studies try and show with the mTOR, I would say that most people that run a high protein diet also eat a lower calorie diet and those people would eat Last state lower body fat percentage the lower body fat percentage is going to play a mission muscle preserving I mean in terms of longevity and having strength and being able bodied I feel like there's a whole another sort of argument in that direction of like so you're talking about quality of life But it's like what we're finding out more about how protective muscle is and compared to like, you know, other methods for staving off diseases
Starting point is 01:18:12 and potential internal problems. A top five reason for dying when you get older is you fall down. Yeah, you break your hip and then it's like a desert. Because you don't have muscle and your bones are weak as a result. Now a high protein diet that's also super high calorie in full of carbs. I'm so glad you said that because I know somebody that's listening to what I just said is he'll be like, I've seen studies
Starting point is 01:18:31 that say the opposite of that, but those are the studies that show people that eat high protein with processed food. So eating, you know, just too many calories. Yes, somebody eats 5000 calories a day and 4000 and it comes from McDonald's, jack of the box, and they hit high protein. But they're also eat tons of saturated fat, tons of extra calories. And so in the context of that, what I, my statement is not true. If you eat a high protein diet
Starting point is 01:18:55 and it's based on whole foods, you will live long. Yeah, if you compare healthy diets that are appropriate calories and you take a bunch of identical people with identical lifestyle. Some of the diets are high protein, some of the diets are moderate protein, some of the diets are low protein. You'll find that the high protein diets are probably better than the other ones, or at least
Starting point is 01:19:15 as good as the moderate ones in terms of longevity. In terms of strength, muscle, quality of life, high protein is superior. So don't be worried about this. Now there's other people say, what about your kidneys? Unless you have kidney disease, in which case you're an nephrologist, we'll tell you what to do. And sometimes actually tell you to increase your protein.
Starting point is 01:19:32 You're fine. Your kidneys are totally fine. They process protein, no problem. And protein was what we probably ate a lot of at times as hunter-gatherers, because the ultimate food that you were after was animal. It just was the most nutrient dense. It made you survive.
Starting point is 01:19:49 What's that famous poster or whatever? There's a Native American word for vegan, bad hunter. Like you're, you're, you know, we survived by eating a lot of protein, animal protein. So no, this is not bad for longevity. Look, if you like Mind Pump, if you want more workouts from us and you don't wanna buy a maps program,
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