Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2098: The Truth About Circuit Training, When to Trade Your Workout for More Sleep, the Only People Who Should Use BCAA Powders & More

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday’s Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.  Mind Pump Fit Tip: If you sleep well and you do it consistently, you are MORE likely to be consistent with your diet and workouts. (1:31) #DadLife: Aurelius’ secret dancing and capturing moments on video vs. being present. (12:29) Mind Pump reviews the Apple Vision Pro. (21:41) Sal’s nightmare caught on video. (27:32) Organized Orcas. (30:40) Teenage boys do NOT understand risk and danger. (33:01) Al Pacino still has some swag. (44:12) Eating disorders and trauma. (51:03) Psychedelics as a treatment for alcoholism. (52:50) A MASSIVE potential medical breakthrough for people with peanut allergies. (58:30) Shout out to John O'Leary. (1:01:57) #Quah question #1 - Why is tackling your weight training as a circuit better, worse, or different than doing it in a non-circuit format? (1:02:57) #Quah question #2 - Are BCAA or EAA powders worth buying? (1:06:50) #Quah question #3 - Is it better to skip your workout if you are tired and get more sleep or push through it and get to the gym even though you are tired? (1:10:25) #Quah question #4 - Any tips on starting the process of getting into bodybuilding and competing? (1:12:45) Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit NutriSense for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code MINDPUMP at checkout** June Promotion: MAPS Cardio or Summer Shredded Bundle or the Bikini Bundle 50% off! **Code JUNE50 at checkout** Sleep plays an important role in heart health Mind Pump #1345: 6 Ways To Optimize Sleep For Faster Muscle Gain And Fat Loss Mind Pump #2060: Maximize Fat Loss With Continuous Glucose Monitors: Kara Collier Apple Vision Pro Massive Whale Swallows Up Two Kayakers In Wild Viral Video From California New Theories Emerge About High School Baseball Star Who Disappeared After Jumping Off Boat in Bahamas Al Pacino, 83, and Noor Alfallah, 29, are expecting a baby Do You Have to Pay Child Support After 10 Kids? A Lawyer Explains The Intersection of Trauma and Eating Disorders | Psychology Today Psychedelic drug helped people with alcohol use disorder reduce drinking, study shows ‘Landmark’ Peanut Allergy Skin Patch Desensitizes Kids Using Immunotherapy to Stop Allergic Reactions Visit PRx Performance for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #610: Dr. Andy Galpin Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Kara Collier (@karacollier1) Instagram John O'Leary (@johnoleary.inspires) Instagram Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin) Instagram  

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But did you know that one of those actually contributes to the others? It's true. Studies show that if you sleep well and you do it consistently, you're more likely to be consistent with your diet and your workouts. In other words, do that. Be consistent with your sleep. It makes everything else much easier.

By the way, there's an inverse relationship. If your sleep is poor, you're far more likely to eat poorly and far more likely to skip workouts or not workout at all. This, this is cool because it's one of those things that you could do and it just makes everything else much easier. Or you cannot do it, it makes everything else much harder. This was actually one of the last things that I actually connected. In fact, it was not that long ago. We were already doing this podcast when I really had made that connection of

are already doing this podcast when I really had made that connection of the appetite cravings that I would have after a restless time. I don't remember if that was back when we interviewed somebody who had wrote the sleepbook or what was going on with us in the business, but I do remember like finally making that connection like, oh shit shit all these days that I have these weird cravings for junk food or for ice cream or the art process. Yeah we're also connected to a poor night to sleep and then realizing wow the days that I get the really good nights rest and I wake out without an alarm clock and I feel refreshed to start my day. I tend to have an easier time with making good food choices

and it's wild how closely those are connected. And I feel like if I was this late to the party, I gotta think that most my clients and average person doesn't make this connection too often. Yeah, it's cool. So there's a study that I'm pulling up and there was the American Heart Association. The summary is people who had greater scores for sleep health, so that was based on

regularity satisfaction, alertness, timing, efficacy, or efficiency and duration, during a 12-month weight loss program, we're far more likely to follow the caloric intake and exercise components of the program compared to peers who scored lower for sleep health. It has such a profound effect on behaviors that. I mean, look, at the end of the day, the biggest challenge with like just trying to eat right is your own cravings, your own desires, your own lack of discipline,

or your inability to stick to something, right? Everybody knows that. And they're finding these studies, and this is again, we've observed this as trainers, that when people get good sleep consistently, it's a lot easier. It's just a lot easier. And then of course the opposite, it's way harder.

It's just, I mean, it kind of feels a lot more like you're just more reactive. Like the whole rest of the day, I'm just kind of passively reacting to everything that's been presented to me versus like staying ahead of it and having the energy and the cognitive awareness to kind of pursue better behavioral

options. It's like I'm almost coasting my way through it and then like any option that's available, I'm going to grab for that as opposed to the opposite. It's funny how much we get hung up on macros and yeah, and counting that type of stuff. When I think like, if that was like the missing link for people being successful, then people would be so oblivious to putting three different plates up and being, which one's the better one? Or which one?

I don't know a client one, but if I showed them a highly processed, highly saturated fat, low protein, poor meal, plate of food, plate of food, next to a really healthy whole food natural about, and go, which one's which one's a better choice for you?

That's not which one. 99.9% of all of them will know right away which one that it is. So it's not a matter of the client's not knowing like, but it's the it's the behaviors and resisting that those temptations and learning how other things affect your choices that really I think learning how to get a hold of that really makes that choice much simpler. It crushes your willpower. You know, when they, when, when, uh, like foreign countries capture spies or soldiers and they want to like break them, they want to get them to give up the secrets.

That's the go to. The one of the go to is sleepvation, because it breaks your will. You're far more likely to be impulsive, far more likely to give up the secrets. Even a trained expert, you can break them with sleep deprivation. So now that's an extreme case, but if you're the average person,

like man, this is really tough, eating right is really tough, and exercising consistently, it's really, really hard for me. And I know I'm supposed to get good sleep. What do I focus on first? Sleep, because the sleep is gonna make everything else much easier.

And it's hard once deceptive too, because I think people's perception of good sleep is completely different than actually getting good quality sleep, which then restores you. And it helps give you all those like benefits that you'd have like throughout the day versus like, I just think people aren't aware that just closing your eyes and trying to get like a certain block, like let's say that's like seven to eight hours. Oh yeah, well I got it. But did you like, did you interact, get interrupted all night? Like, did you ever get into real REM sleep?

I don't know. Well, this is also why I think glucose monitors are so valuable because you become more aware of how the food choices that you make affect like your blood sugar, your insulin spikes, and that, then how that affects the choices and behaviors. One of the most common things that affects your ability to process glucose or the spikes is lack of sleep.

When they do these glucose, so at NutriSense, that's a partner we work with. They use continuous glucose monitors that monitor your glucose, your blood sugar in real time, and then they have actual nutrition experts that work with you. And they'll tell you the top way reasons that people get these spikes in these crazy drops and blood sugar. One of them has nothing to do with the food that they eat.

It's lack of sleep or poor sleep. Someone has poor sleep, and then they see these numbers go all over the place, and then that influences your behaviors, increases your cravings, decreases your willpower. They could see it with data. And again, what was her name? We had her on the show, was it Kara? We had her on the show, representative from NutriSense, and she's like, oh yeah, like a sleep, I'll see it.

I could tell, I could look at somebody's numbers on their CGM, and I'll know, like, did you eat? Pop Tards, right? Not this time, or was it because you had bad sleep? Because it's one of the other. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So it's like, and you know pop tarts right, not this time? Or was it because you had bad sleep? Because it was one of the other. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So it's like, and you know, this took me so long to figure out as a trainer, so long.

But I remember I would, when I finally did, people would see like, I don't know, eight pound weight loss, and I didn't tell them to change anything, just, yeah. Let's just get you to bed at the same time every night, wake up at the same time every morning, do a sleep routine, give you, you know know eight and a half hour nine hour block because I know it's gonna take you 30 minutes of full sleep Yeah, let's do that and then when they do a consistent wait

We just fall off and they would say wow, I don't know that I burn fat when I slept and stuff like that's not really Extreme example. I mean, I was training this lady for years and Really, I just it was so difficult because it was like, there's got to be something here that we're not doing, you know, like, what is the key? It was so frustrating because like, the training was consistent, the nutrition was all dialed in, like, everything we were doing, we could possibly do,

like, to kind of create this like healthy lifestyle. But the sleep just wasn't there. And it's because it just kept getting interrupted with meetings and things internationally at like weird hours in the middle of the night. And so there's just stress level and there's this like interruption of recovery there that when it was very apparent that like the sleep

was a massive component to that, was when she was like, had a month where she just went on a retreat, didn't do any work, was completely like rested and restored and lost 10 pounds, just like that. That crazy. Well, this is also why I don't like the, again, the calories in, calories out type of argument is like the end all be all because I've had situations just like that, Justin, where I feel like I'm doing everything right as a coach and a trainer and you assume that your client must be lying to

you because you're thinking from that perspective of like, just make sense. I've got her on a calorie restrict to diet. She's doing this. She's doing that. She's following these things. And then you start to dive into that piece and it's like, Oh, shit, like you're not sleeping. You got your jet lag because you're flying all over the place. It's just like, and not realizing like how stressed your body is from that, and that your metabolism doesn't work with you when that cases.

It's in survival mode, and it feels like it's being attacked from all angles, and then I'm beating you up in the gym, thinking I need to work you harder, and that's the missing piece to it, and all I'm doing is making the situation even worse. There's a lot of people that find themselves in this trap and have no idea, and that's why a lot of them say, fuck it, I don't wanna do it anymore.

It give up because I'm doing all this hard-ass work, stressing myself out, not getting good sleep too, and I'm not seeing the results right, and fuck it, I'd rather eat the bad food. And be a little fatter. Well, it's not intuitive, right? Sleep, like I'm not burning calories, like I'm not exercising, like what does that have to do?

With, hey, look, I'll say this right now, everybody watching, if you're new to this and you want to get started on this, let's say this fat loss journey, just fix your sleep and don't worry about anything else. Just do your normal life, just fix your sleep for three months, you'll lose weight just by doing that alone. That's how impactful it is. And again, and if you, like I said, are partners at NutriSense, they back this up with people's glucose numbers and behaviors and all that stuff.

That's super incredible. Pretty crazy. Do you guys think that the reason why some of this stuff is not communicated is it devalues us, like as coaches and trainers? Like, when you think, when you think like, like, if I said, like, give me like the five, like sleep trainer, you lay in bed with them. I mean, yeah, give me like the five like sleep trainer you lean bed with them. I mean, yeah, give me the give me like the five big rocks Like you want to like completely shift and alter somebody's health and finish journey for the rest of their life And you would are like those five big rocks and it's like the the dumbest simple things like go to bed You know get a four-night stress drink water walk more after your meals Yeah, lift some heavy weights a few times a week like yeah, like sleep

It's there. It's not really overly complicate. Eat whole foods, you know what I'm saying? It's like, and there's no tracking, measuring weighing there or you know, progressive overload. I'm not saying any of that shit right now. It's like literally do all these super basic things, do them really well and really consistently and watch how much that completely alters your life.

From a fat loss perspective, from a muscle-building perspective, from a, everything, well-being, everything. And it's like, you don't really need me for that, you know what I'm saying to you. It's like, it's there it is, right there, you know. Totally. I think that's why we don't, I don't think that's why it's not popular enough. Yeah. Let's see, I guess there's a new category of trainer sleep trainers. Yeah. Just standing around, seeing a little bit of myersung. Yeah, watching's see. I guess there's a new category of trainers sleep trainers. Yeah, standing room, seeing a little bit of fire. Yeah, watching. Yeah, and taking notes.

Do I gotta tell you guys my two-year-old is he's getting to two and a half now. He's at the age now. Actually, I told you this Adam earlier and you said that you remember when Max started doing this. So we're putting him to bed last night and he's got this weird toy. It's like this cactus that talks back at you and it copies your voice, but then there's this function on where it plays music. And he's like, first he says, don't look at me to his mom and don't look at me to me. I'm like, okay, whatever. So we're like, all right, we're gonna look at the wall, right? But I can kind of see what he's doing. And he turns to music on and he looks at himself at the beer and he starts like, dance and dude, he's like,

jamming and work. I am cracking up because I can see what he's doing. And every once in a while, I'll look at him and be like, don't look at me, he'll stop and they'll change the song. And he's like watching himself at the mirror while he's dancing. It's the funniest thing ever, dude. I tried recording him, but every time I picked my phone up, he yelled at me, so I'm like, all right, I'll put this down. Max just came out of that phase of the...

And he's still, depending on his mood, I get him in. He's, now he's like 50-50. Sometimes he's a ham, and he's still, depending on his mood, I get him in, he's, now he's like 50, 50. Sometimes he's a ham, like he, yesterday was his first day of the new school and Katrina asked him, because she knows that he can get like that. If like, she pulls the camera out, no, he'll put his hand up, no, no picture, and then he'll do something like that. And then something like, now he's at this phase where,

sometimes he'll do that or sometimes he'll be like this, where she's like, can I take a picture of you with your back right now? And he goes, yeah, then he? Oh, yeah, he goes, what side do you want? So cute because the backpack is big. Oh, I know, it's like it's half of his body is the backpack itself. What are they carrying in that backpack? It's so big. Well, I think she lets him lug his toys around and stuff like that. So he loves it. He doesn't even in the house right now, right? So he'll carry his backpack around and his toys are there. Yeah, anytime we get a railio something,

like we got him a camel back, boom, where's it around the house? Or if we get him flip flops, where's he got, like whatever you got, this new thing, you know, new hat, I gotta wear it every day now. Hold on, I'm gonna go to bail my hat on or whatever. Yeah, he's at a pretty funny and hilarious face.

You know what, you know what though? I had this thought too, where, because we didn't experience this, our parents did not have the ability to record us 24-7. I know. They didn't, right? It was always special events. Go get the camera, record this, record that. And, you know, because my son called me out, he's like, don't record me. He got mad at me. And then Jessica looks at me and she's like, let's just be present. And I'm like, you know what? I wonder, I can maybe think how much of his life

in all these things I'm experiencing through the camera on my phone. Yeah. Rather than actually being there. I wrestle with that a lot, right? And actually, if I get upset, I can train it sometimes so it's not fair, right? It's like, I'm the one who does really good

about capturing the photos, capturing the videos. She's like, if it wasn't for me doing that, we'd'd probably have none of my son and no pictures of her and I. So I definitely have the tomboy wife when it comes to that. So I've assumed that role in our relationship. And so there's sometimes where I get frustrated, I'm like, I just want to enjoy this moment. Can you capture it for us so I can go back and reflect on it? Because I'm kind of the one who's always doing that. And so then I have these moments where I'm like, I just, I don't want my phone around, I'm just, I'm gonna be in the moment and do that. So I try and have balance in that.

But then I also think it's such a, man, one of my favorite things to do. And I do this already with him. He's only fucking four and I do this. We're all, I'll lay in bed and I'll go through. Bro, every night we do that. I love that. Every night we do that. I love that. I love that. And Katrina, I'll go through it. And I'm like, oh,. I love that. I love that. I can turn that I'll go through it.

I'm like, oh, you remember this? Remember when he was doing this and doing that? I, I, and I don't have that. Like there, I don't have nothing of me like that where I could go back and see this timeline of growing up. And I, I gotta think that that's gonna be really cool for him when he's a certain age to be able to look back and see his dad

and his mom interacting with him and him with his friends when he's little and age to be able to look back and see his dad and his mom interacting with him and him with his friends when he's little. So I don't know, there's a part of like, you want to be fully present and you don't want to have this stupid phone and get them so comfortable with like, there's always this. Yeah. But then there's that part too, man, that's such a cool technology that you have this so you can reflect. I know.

I struggle with it too because the positive is being in the moment and not interrupting whatever they're doing. Because even when you pull the camera out, if they notice it, and they do notice it, it's not like they don't notice that you're doing it, that it probably changes their behavior and their experience. It has to, right?

So that, well, there's, okay, so you saw the one, the last, there were like two posts to go on my son's page, right, I know you guys have access to that, the public doesn't. I caught the doctor's scene. So I, I propped that, because he was already doing something like hilarious. He's like a hitting camera.

Yeah, so he, and I sent him to go get like the next patient or whatever, and when he did it, I set it up. So it's not even near me, and then I played with him so I could capture. That's why he doesn't know. That way he didn't know, it doesn't change his behavior, it's not a big deal, so I try and do stuff like that if I can where I can sneak it. Katrina got that one of him falling into the bag,

he had no idea. He was just doing that on his own, and she was pretty good. He had captured that. Oh, I know, she was like dying, and she's like, oh my God, if he does this again, I have to capture it. So she was like sneaking it. Yeah.

We do that every now and then it, I mean, the easiest way for us to do it is like inside the house and we watch them play outside. And that's how we got that one that won the every time. I don't know if they've been there. Until we got sick and like fell over. Yeah. Like that's hilarious. I laughed.

I watched that of your son probably 10 times. So that's such, and it shows his personality, right? Like that is gold to me that you have that and you'll forever have. I wish we were better at that for sure. Like it is a balance. And it's always like one of those, you're rushing to find it and then you miss

like half of what happened. Yes. Which sucks. My mom actually was very good about like documenting to, like so there's like VHS of like me and my brother, like all the way too much. Like we've never even got to do it all. Really?

Yeah. Did you guys close? Like obsessive about it. Did they have the big one that's the best shoulder? That's our holder? Yes. Yeah. You have the VCR attached to your hip.

So, and then she, yeah, every basketball game or whatever, like, like, it actually like messed up her eye, like, it really is. She did it that much. She did that much. And in, like, to the point where it was, it was the same camera. And it actually had like the screen turned green. And like, to the point where she ended up like re-gifting that to me later. And I'm like, what am I like make green videos with this like old camera. So anyway, I have like, now I appreciate it now going back, but I was like irritated as a kid because I always had like the hand me down, hand me down, hand me down of everything. So, but yeah, she pretty much got like all the camping, like all the things like of everybody we hung out with.

You know what's weird about that era? Was that when you took pictures or video or whatever, the person develop, not video maybe, but pictures. You used to have to take your film to a place to develop. So people who don't know kids or whatever, you take pictures, you don't know how they turned out, you take the film, you take it somewhere, and the fast places would do it in an hour,

usually it would take a day or two. Whoever was developing your photos, saw all your family. Like they could literally look through your photos and see everything that happened. Don't you remember when that was like the prank? You get your buddies for the camera. Oh, you just took a picture. You're just like a movie. You just took a picture. So they got one, so they got one hour photo, Don't you remember when that was like the prank you get your buddies for the camera

So that one so they're one hour photo and they're like Like there's there's some videos because you're talking about your like your son kind of dancing Like I was very much like that kid you know and we put wigs on and like do like, what? Dude, I did the whole, bro, I was a bit sherry. Too much right now, you're a big guy. Hey listen man, this is the 90s bro, this is the four. These are the 90s. Before they rushed me off to get a surgery or something.

Yeah, I was just a spear man. Hey, that's so appropriate right now. So what I got, like maybe he wants to be a girl. Let's go chill, let's go chill. No, man, I was just a spearman. Hey, that's so appropriate right now. So what a guy like, he wants to be a girl. Let's go, let's go, let's go, man. I was like, yeah, I thought it was like a rock star, you know? I was gonna put on a lot of different outfits and whatnot. And so like, the video taped me and like, I had this whole like playing stuff I do for the family.

I remember getting so mad because I didn't want to show it like outside the family. And one time like we had all these like, people over just to hang out. And then she just snuck it in and put it on the TV. And I was like, in my room came down, they're all laughing. And I look up and it's me doing something,

I was so embarrassed. So I like, I think you're bad at your mom. You have bad your mom for like months after. Yes, I used to do this dance. I don't know what the hell I was thinking, but I would stick my butt out and I'd like dance and smack my butt. Right, that's what this dance. I don't know what the hell I was thinking, but I would stick my butt out and I'd like dance and smack my butt, right?

That's what I do. I don't know why. I don't know why. That's right after the pillow fight. I think, yeah, I'm not gonna be able to share it with this one, you guys. You guys are gonna be on your own. I just did an eye-wrestling video together from.

That was a good time. We've been friends. But my mom would put these home videos on, and then I'd pop up and I'd do that and I'd be sitting around family or just like random people. My daddy's gonna put videos all the time. We'd invite people over friends.

They're not even family. And my dad, oh, you want to see some home videos? And then boom, there I am, smack him, I put up the, and I'd sit there and I'd just be like, oh, dad dude. Oh, no. So, and then I love it,

because it's so funny. So, I actually think that we are going to move into or evolve into something that it kind of solves what we're talking about, right? Because they're obviously it's a value to have like this great footage right there, but then also it's very valuable to be present. And so I don't know if it looks like, I think we talked before, I thought there was going to be this like hovering balls that are around everybody. It's just in your eyeball, maybe.

Yeah, well, so did you see the new Apple vision? Yeah. So, I wasn't gonna wear that though. I know, so I mean, that's the first rendition, right? So I mean, maybe the future of it looks like it's way less invasive and it's more like just like thin eye glasses and it does all that stuff.

I don't know. Is that the one that's like like a really big, like a god? And then it shows your eyes on the outside. So I look at you, it's just playing your eyes. But it's, so it's not your eyes. So the screen is like showing the eyes, but you're not.

Yes, not actually. And then it's augmented reality. Yeah. And you can control things with hand signals. I'm not to check that out. Well, yeah. I mean, pull it up, Doug. It looks cool.

I don't see, I mean, I don't see myself using this. But again, oh, weird. So, and it blends. So let. I don't see myself using this. But again, so and it blends. So let's say Justin, I'm like this. So let's pretend I'm surfing the internet, right? Go back, Doug. Okay. See how she can. And then you come into the room. It actually senses you coming in the room

and it blurs out the computer and now your face comes clear. Huh. So in a walk around with the shit on her face. Well, that's the idea, right? So how can you integrate being able to walk around or be with other people while also being able to do this? Yeah. So if somebody, they're not showing them

somebody doing it right now, but if somebody walks into the room while you're doing it, it actually brings them into sight for you. So you're not just in this VR, it's not VR, it's like AR. I could just imagine this right now. Just coming out and like, before Christmas, I'm gonna for you. So you're not just in this VR. It's not VR, it's like AR. I could just imagine this right now. Just coming out and like, before Christmas, I'm gonna see you. I think you're buying now.

Right? You can buy now, right? No, how much is it? It's like 3K, I think. 3500. 3500. Okay, so I, can you, okay, think of the apps. I'll show you.

Think of all the apps. You put this on, imagine you hire a babysitter or a caregiver. Oh, you gotta put this on, put the babysitting app. It puts on, it goes on, and it's monitoring the kid's heart rate, their body temperature, it's telling you if things are in danger. A kid is nearing a plug that is, oh, there it is. Oh, child appears to be hungry, sending off some signals

that or whatever, baby's crying, looks like tummy issues. This is gonna be weird. This is super weird. By the way, I don't know if you guys are reading this article that are coming out about the demand and what people are super excited to use it for. What do you guys think? What do you think?

What do you think? Of course, everything's that. Yeah, everything's that. That's not all started. But I mean, so obviously these things are, well, one, we're older and this seems to like really far fetched and like, oh, I would never. But if you grow up using this,

right, you grow up using it and becomes normal. And or the, it gets, it evolves. And it's less of this big clunky thing on your head and it's smaller. Or like I said, maybe it evolves to something that is like more, you know. What if you wear this all the time or something like this and records everything all the time?

That's what I'm saying. And then you, Justin and I get an argument. Bro, I can't believe you said that. I didn't say that. Looks like you did, bro. That's what I'm saying. And then you, Justin and I get an argument. Bro, I can't believe you said that. I didn't say that. It looks like you did, bro. That's that black mirror episode. That's that black mirror episode. Yeah. That's that black mirror.

Now, who do you see? That's going to be, that's going to cause a lot of problems initially because like people really don't realize what comes out of their mouth. Yeah, or how they look. No, no, you said that. You sounded like an asshole. No, I didn't. What, I mean, even myself, I mean, you can play Devils Advocate with that

and be like the positive side of that is the level of awareness. We, one of the things we talk about in this podcast is look at the growth that has happened because you actually have to hear your own bullshit. Yeah. Like, you say it, it flies out of your mouth and it's done, but now on this podcast, I have to hear about it.

And if I say something that is at all in one direction that somebody doesn't like, I get feedback right away. And then I go listen to it. Plus viewing everybody's reaction to what you're presenting. So, that are people become masters at faking it. That's inevitable, right? That's inevitable, right? There's always going to be actors.

There's always going to be actors, sociopaths. There's always going to be evil and bad in the world. But maybe for the majority, it actually becomes this great self-awareness tool that makes people better people because they go, oh fuck, I was kind of asshole. So who do you think's gonna win more arguments optimistic with those glasses? Husbands or wives?

Do you who do you think's gonna play back with video? Do you play the sexes against us? How about that your own life? Like, you're all put in the back. Who do you think's gonna win that more? I don't know, I don't do that. Yeah, you do. Just roll the feedback.

I mean, women are supposed to be better at like remembering all that stuff. I mean, we are, let's be honest. Yeah. So we probably we probably lose that. That battle. Maybe we do or what if they fooled us this whole time? Yeah, we're blind. Those things are crazy though, right? It is. I mean, I can't I mean, think of right now that the applications, the apps that are gonna be developed for something like that. Like, well, think about this. I mean, how often do we do?

We set up a Zoom call this Friday coming up. Like, we got, we imagine doing like a conference. And it looks like someone's sitting in front of you. Yeah. Imagine, and you see like in a Zoom where you can see their, their screen so they're, what if you go to a store, their screen. So there, you're, and store every product you look at,

you could click and it opens up and explains it and shows you the, or you just look at it and the price hovers. Yeah, you know, 49, 79, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, totally minority reports. Or a pixel, picks up somebody that shows you all their, all their links.

So I'm looking at you and I'm like, look at his Instagram. You do know I'm looking at your Instagram. Yeah, no, well, think about that. Imagine you're on the street, you're just wearing something like this, or you're somewhere in the public, and I can look at Justin and all of his handles. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can see his Twitter handle, his Instagram handle, with that that.

And if it's like, he seems like an interesting person. Oh, I want to look at his thing. All right. Or we just started talking and then I automatically now have that store. You know, and I just go, oh, store, you know, and I just go, oh friend, you know, and it's like now he's a friend and automatically, friends. And he's like, oh it's upsell. Wow.

Dude, I saw a crazy, you ever watch a video, like a real video and you're like, that is exactly my nightmare. It's exactly my nightmare. Okay, I saw a video, you could probably find this online, Doug. There was some kayakers, and they were just in the ocean, just whatever.

And a whale. This is swallows them. No. A whale comes up, big ass whale. And actually, swallow them. Swallows them. Swallows them. Now, spit them back out because it's a whale

and they don't eat meat, right? So, but imagine if you're that,'re in the water as it says like biblical bro Yeah, imagine you're in the whale going underwater like I guess I'm fucked well well doesn't eat meat Well, cuz it was krill. Yeah, I was just saying yeah, they they open their mouth super wide to get all the krill in there So it's just probably going up to service. Yeah. Oh look look at this. So is that a video? So a whale wouldn't eat like a big fish. I mean if it gets trapped in there don't care. I eat them. Oh, yeah Look at that actually caught a video of the sound. Yeah, do you look at that? I want to hear a sound. Oh No, no, the person cute and that's that's literally my nightmare. Look look look look

Just swallowed up. Just got him and look at the people watching. They're like what look at nobody's freaking out. See you later friend. Yeah, do look like it just comes up and Swallows the people Marifying How come nobody around looks like they're freaking out? They're probably in disbelief if you saw if I saw if I was swimming with you Yeah, and a whale came up and swallowed you for about 30 seconds. I wouldn't believe what I saw The whale swallow just it's our sinking Oh, you know what because people were they saw the whale was in the area, so everyone had their cameras out probably. Oh, they're multiple, look at that. Whoa.

Wow. In a kayak. What do you got? People were watching. Like, homie didn't even jump off. They eat silverfish. A silverfish. They were watching them.

Like, they're watching the whales. They were really close. And now, these, on the way of coming up, it's what it took to kayak. They survived? Yeah, they survived. I don't think he actually got swallowed. They got in the mouth.

Because the boat was actually hanging out a little bit, so there was an opening. Wait, you don't even see them though. After swallows, then the whales split them out. Two person in kayak, both survived. No, so they actually, did they all go down in the belly? Doug, once you're in its mouth, you're hitting your own belly.

I think that's it. Yeah, okay, hang the mouth. I think he closed his mouth, and then he opened it up after they went under, but still, that's like, yeah. That's terrifying. That's got to be the ultimate story that you can tell someone. Someone's telling you like, oh, it's crazy thing happening, be like, that's crazy. I'll wait till you're done.

Yeah, hold my beer. Yeah, that is biblical shit, though. Cause a whale swallow it. Yeah, you can't help but go back. What am I doing wrong? Yeah. Jesus shit though. Because the whale swallow it. You can't help but go back. What am I doing wrong? Yeah. Jesus told me I was supposed to do it. Just sign.

Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. What did he tell me I was supposed to do it? I didn't do it. That would be me.

I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Speaking of whales, there was another, there was this report, so killer whales have been known to attack small boats if the small boats are interfering with their hunting patterns and stuff. So there was this one boat that there was killer whales and what they'll do is they'll come up and they'll whack the utter until they break it or they're organized. And they ever seem to kill seals. Dude, they'll whack the white. I saw the, what you're gonna call it? Runner, not utter. Not the utter. That's a cow.

That's a cow. I should've caught that one. I just thought it'd be. I just thought it'd be. Yeah, sure. I just thought it'd be. I just thought it'd be. I just thought it'd be.

Yeah, sure. Why don't you squeeze it? You're about the whale. I'm not a whale expert. You know, you know, you know. I'm not gonna do the sail. It might be some science thing. It might be an edirada boat.

I see, I saw the killer whales doing this one time. It must have been a floating block of ice every bit. Oh, it's where they walked the water. Every bit is 5,000, 6,000 square feet, like huge, right? And this big old sea otter is in the center of it. And they were intentionally creating the waves. To wash them off. Yes, to wash them off.

They washed them off, ate that sucker. I was like, damn, they were all coordinated. Yeah, they were swimming together and then throw a huge wave. And then eventually all broke, sucker slid off. You know the kings of the ocean. They are. It's like great whites scared of them.

Yeah, they hunt them. If they, if a great, if killer whales show up where great whites are, great whites disappear and don't come back for like three or four seasons. Now, are they like a much higher intelligence? Do we know there are much, it seems like they're much more organized? They, they hunt like pack animals. Yes, they're so in sharks, dogs aren't dolphins supposed to be the smartest in the water? Yeah, they're supposed to be the most, I think killer whales are up there though.

Yeah, it depends, I guess, on the related, aren't they? I think they're related. Yeah, what's the name of them? Orcas. Yeah, but what's the class? Oh, with the purpose. Yeah, let me find out. There is a.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, Dolphin's obviously super smart. Yeah, so I was reading this report where they were on this boat and there's like the killer whales came up, started hitting their boat, smashed the rudder, didn't stop. They all had to like call Mayday, because they were sinking, and a boat came and saved them.

That's how pissed off the boat. Actually, killer wells are considered dolphins in the dolphin family. Oh, yeah, that's awesome. Dude, did you guys speaking of ocean, well, sharks, all this bullshit, did you see the Louisiana baseball player kid who jumped off the boat intentionally?

Whoa. It was a... I heard about that. It was there. It was like their senior, senior trip to Bahamas or something like that. Like, Darren, or he want to show off or something. Yeah.

It was like totally did it intentionally. Everybody's laughing and videoing it like that and gone. Dead. Lost the seat. Eight by sharp. So they didn't find his body. It was at the itch, like, because obviously, like, that's the thing is, like,

I think people think that, like, they'll be easily found. And like, once you're in the middle of the ocean and the boat is like, it's gone. Yeah, good. You know what, you know what's so crazy? Like, I guess you just don't really think about one.

Those massive cruise ships take miles to turn around. Yeah. So it's not like it can whip around like a little ski boat and come back and get them. It's gone. He doesn't have like a little GPS locator. I mean, I actually would have, if I thought, I mean, I wouldn't have known better.

I definitely wouldn't have done something stupid either. But to jump off like that, and my friends all knowing, and then they go tell the captain, I would, you would think that we would be able to save me and time yeah, it seems like yeah They would be able to turn it around and go I think they threw a Lifering they did and he swam away from it probably goofing off Well, maybe or he saw something coming towards him That's what I saw is there a shark angle to this story. There is a shark. I have it okay. So I this is what I heard. Oh my god. That's even more. But I saw the

video and it doesn't look like he's screaming help or anything. I think it it sounds like he's laughing or the everyone's all like I think it's a funny thing. I don't know. You know when I see videos like that? They terrified me because I just imagine I'm on a cruise ship with one of my kids and my little jumps off. Like, what do you do? Well, especially like the teenager age, right? Like that's the whole like, it's the stupidest hierarchy of all humans. The dumbest in terms of race. Checking order stuff is teenage boys. Yeah.

Teenage boys are literally stupid. Yeah. Like, they see, they don't understand risk and danger. They just limit, you know. I can do this. Yeah, I mean, I did things at that age that I look back and I would would slap the shit out of myself. Yeah, if I could.

In that weird state, that we all do that, that you, everybody, I don't know, I don't know a single man that doesn't have a story of ages 15 to 18 range of him going like, yeah, that was probably some of the dumbest shit. Just stupid stuff and car life threatening dumb. Yes, yeah, you know, it's evolutionary. Well, the theory is, is that the teenage to early 20s, so like 16 to like 24 or whatever,

that's the age for conquest, war for like dangerous, scary shit. And you need, and men are expendable, right? Cause a whole bunch of us could die and society still survives, because you don't need a lot of men to procreate to create a bunch of offspring. You just need some men. So it's like, so basically we die off

in the strong ones, make it. Yeah, or no, or just they need crazy people They need we need plus I mean strong. They're strong. They're crazy and they survive They're strong enough to do something that crazy and dangerous and make it through yeah, and then the weaker ones die Right, do you guys have I remember one time this is just talking about it makes me upset because it's just so dumb I remember one time my cousins and I, we first got our drivers licenses, so we were 16 years old and we were racing our cars in residential neighborhoods and we were racing backwards in the cars. We were, when I would try to pass someone up, I'd take the inside track around a corner. All someone that I'd do was be there and it would have

been a head-on. Like, just the dumbest stupidest shit when I think about it. That's, yeah, we should jump off cliffs. It was like, we'd test each other to how tall the cliff was. And just just to see, like, why, in the water on the ground? Dude, it landed on the ground. It's like, oh my god.

Well, it was like sand dunes, so that like some areas we did it, like it was like, it was soft enough to like kind of catch the fall. Some, wasn't, it was just like rocks, you know, and we did it like it was like it was soft enough to like kind of catch the fall some wasn't It was just like rocks, you know, and we would just like Just run off and just jump, you know, just to see if like you're tough enough So Paralyze actually I know somebody did that. Yeah, I know someone who got he him and his buddies were daring each other

And he did that and paralyzed from the chest down. Yeah, all right. Yeah, no, we did the whole, the car thing for sure. So when we were 16, there was, there was a town between a little strip, like a little highway. It was a country road, right? So obviously not a super busy road, but nonetheless,

it's absolutely stupid. And anybody who's been around the Central Valley, the Central Valley is known for its fog. It's the worst fog you've ever seen in your life, right? It's like, it's so thick, like you can wave your hand and like it cuts, and you can't see nothing. You can't see the end of your hood of your car. That's how thick the fog is.

And it was like a night like that. And we're heading to a party 30 minutes away on this highway. And there's like four of us that are driving all of our cars. And we're racing, you know, we're racing and passing each other. So stupid. And you know, we're and we're, you know, one of my buddies is driving like an old, you know, Toyota Camry. And he's, you know, he would merge over and we're all throttling it, trying not to let him pass. And so the pass is like slow, and you're in the opposite lane and the fog. You can't see the, I mean, just when you think back,

like what the fuck? I mean, you literally are just gambling with your life. And you think at that time it's like this, like beat your chest alpha thing to do, it seems like so cool when you're doing it. Now, the magic of it. I don't know if you guys know the band, My Chemical Romance. That song, The Teenager's Scary, The Living Shit Out of Me.

It's like it is completely where I'm at now. Yeah, I used to do this thing where I would drive in the car and we'd go down a dark dirt road and if I was with a girl, I thought it was fun. Shut the lights off. Shut the lights off. Shut the lights off. And let's see how far I could drive before you yell chicken or whatever, or I thought it was hilarious.

Literally can't see. That was like a game you played. You like who would, who would be the first to like, all right, I give up, go turn on, turn on, stupid. Oh, and then you have kids as a dad, and you know, you're like, I tell you that one time I was in chemistry with my,

my buddy, and we all did this experiment where you shock each other Like where you make a circle Everybody's holding hands and then you have like the call our our we had an unconventional chemistry teacher Let's just say you're able to blow stuff up and like it was awesome. That's kind of cool. Yeah, but so there was this one It like created a charge. And so there'd be two people holding at one end and then we create this big chain. And so he was just demonstrating that the electrical current would go through all of us. And so people would get eliminated. We made it like a game out of it, right?

And so it ended up people dropping out, but we kept going and it was just me and my friend holding the thing like this. And we crank up the amplitude as high as we could and we're just holding I'm like Here's like See how long we can hold Somebody pulled the plug finally on us dude. What was the name of the speaker that we saw at Dave Ramsey's thing who tried it, he tried to light fireworks. Oh my God.

That's what, that's what, that's what's his name is O'Leary. O'Leary. Yes. And so what was it, remind me what he was doing. Okay, so he's the same type of bullshit story. So he comes out, this is the worst of it.

He comes out first off, John O'Leary. John O'Leary. So all the talks there, except for one were incredible. All moving, all very powerful. All of them, you take something away from. So they were all just one-

This is one of them. This is the one, though, that got all of us to cry several times. So he comes out and he's obviously disabled. He has no fingers on either hand. And you can see that he's suffered some burns on his body. And when he was nine, nine or 10, I guess he saw some teenage boys in the neighborhood play with gasoline and fire.

He thought it would be fun to try it himself in his garage, didn't realize that the fumes light opened the gas tank with the lighter on it, and it just exploded, right? So as a 10 year old boy, just, yeah, the whole house went up, and he was covered 90% of his body in burns. Anyway, long story short, first of all,

hilarious guy, incredibly motivating story, very painful process, ends up getting married to this beautiful woman, has four kids, becomes an incredibly successful speaker. Anyway, as he's talking, remember this guy has no hands. There's a piano in the back. And he starts telling a story about how his mom hired a piano teacher, which is crazy.

Your mom's gonna hire a piano teacher and every fingers. She shows up and she says to him, this is gonna be hard, almost impossible, but I'm gonna do this with you. And that became kind of like, what's she started by, like, rubber banding, pencil. Pencil, too. Yeah. So he goes back and I'm'm like I'm thinking I'm ahead as I'm watching him tell a story and then I notice the piano I'm like I swear to God if he goes back there starts

playing a song. I know. What does he do? Immediately. He goes back there starts. Waterworks. Oh God. What a crazy. What a great speaker. What a powerful story. Yeah it was. It was incredible. He was incredible. But I mean, again, just the reason why I brought it up was it highlights the boy, just the way your, your, your brain ticks, you know, I'm saying at that age, just wildly. The whole, the whole theme of that story was, uh, don't, uh, always, uh, don't turn something down that is, that is for good. In other words, when something presents itself, if it's for good, say yes to it. And the story he says is, I don't remember what job he was doing and he just like was

whatever. And some guy came up to him and said, hey, will you talk to my, I think it was in my rotary. No, it was started the kindergarten class like two kids or four kids and three, um, a girls' cat cookie. Yes. Yeah. And he goes, and he goes, well, you know, he made this decision with himself

that I'm never gonna say no for something for good. It was free. So he goes and he talks, and then another person said, hey, will you come talk to my road? Anyway, this turned into this guy becoming one of this, this massive exceptional speaker. Yeah. That's what he does to this day.

Yeah, I was really, really, really good. That was a great one. By the way, do you guys hear Apple change, like did something with their spell check? Yes, it's fucking fuck. No one will send me allowing it. So it does change in the duck grade. No one will send me. Oh, annoying that is.

I hate that. When you're cussing on there, you want to get it out. I ducking hate this. So now it fixes it so you can say the F word. What do you think that is? It's like what you committed to doing that. It's been that way forever. And like now you're doing it like why? Why?

I mean, that's a market demand. I think so many people do it and change it. Like who the hell says duck in a sentence? Almost never. Right. But everybody says the F word several times. Go and fuck hunting. I mean, that's not gonna be good.

That's it. Yeah. You're staying home. I've got a whole new thing to like explain now. Yeah, who knows? You're left like you're not going there. You're not going there anymore. You're not going to lead you out this weekend.

I know he saw it. Did you did you guys see Al Pacino? I didn't, bro. I heard though, he had a baby. Or he's having the oldest actor ever. He's 86. To have yeah, 86 or something. And this is the girl like 29. Is she 29? Yeah, at least she's 29 or something. And isn't the girl like 29?

Is she 29? Yeah, at least she's 29. Bray. He actually had her take a maternity test. She had her take a maternity test. Cause you wanted to make sure. Yeah, and it was this. Yeah, it was this.

Wow. So, is that a bragging or you're like a bird? No, bro, you should be embarrassed, dude. I mean, that's like, I still have to train. I'm like, when you're 80, I think he's 89. He's not gonna be around. He's exactly, bro, you should be a bearist, dude. I mean, that's like, let's talk to Trina. I'm like, that when you're, you're 80, I think he's 89. He's not gonna be around. He's exactly, your kids are gonna be 10. 83, he's 83.

What was Robert De Niro when he had his? Robert De Niro was like 78. Hey, you notice what these guys haven't called me? Money. The time. Sorry. No, I think, I think to have a child that lay. I'm not for no.

It's such a disservice and so on. Yeah, but I don't think he did it on purpose. He wasn't trying to get a pregnant. He just had sex. You don't think so? You think he was like, you're gonna get pregnant? No, I think he just had sex. Well, what do you think happens

when you have sex without a kid? Well, I know that dude. So fucking God. Well, you're with a, well, a vibrant 29 year old. Yeah, I know that dude. So, fucking God. Well, you're with a, we have vibrant 29 year old. Yeah, I'm saying. Yeah, but you're not begging your 80 year old wife or girlfriend, you'll say like you're having

second of the 29 year old. Like she's at her prime. Yeah, to Nero is 79. Wow. Spring kickin'. Hey, I wonder if, if Patino called him afterwards. Hey bro. I beat you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Ah, because you know, you're 83 K, 90, I beat you. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, right? Because you know, the you're 83 K 90. I mean, he's he's he'd be lucky to live into his late 90s. So at best, your kid makes it to his early teens. No, that's brutal. And then and even then like, let's say he'll be a remarried. His mom's gonna have a lot of money. I'm married. I guess. Yeah, but they don't think you deprive that kid of their dad. I don't know. Someone who didn't have their dad for most of their life. Like I'm gonna be remarried, I guess. Yeah, but they don't think you deprived that kid of their dad, I don't know. Someone who didn't have their dad for most of their life,

like I take that like a bath. Well, I guarantee Elon Musk will keep doing it, right? This is his mission to like repopulate and you know, he's like, he's young though. Well, you mean keep going, always keep going. Yeah. Is he, is he, oh, by the way, speaking of that, we talked on the podcast, somebody DM me and said, there is a law

that after you have 12 kids that you can actually, or after 10 kids, you can fight child support. Wow. That's a number. That's a number. Fact check me. That's a good one, right?

We talked about it. Let's get to 10. You're like, cool, I'm good. We brought up what's the thing. So it's his name that has all the kids. Nick going. Once you get to tenure, like cool, I'm sure. We brought up what's his name. What's his name that has all the kids. Nick Cannon, right? Who's got I think 12 or something like that. And we said that's bullshit.

There's no because someone else had said that before. And then somebody reached out to me and said, I, it's actually. There's a limit. There's supposedly after it's either 10 or 12. After you have 10 or 12 minutes, imagine if the woman might have to be the same part. Now here's what I said to the person, because I didn't get a chance to dig deep into this.

I said, that's most likely to protect some broke dad who's messed up 10, 12 times and had 12 kids or whatever, and not the multi-millionaire. I said, I doubt that will hold up for him. I'm sure whoever he had to 12 kids with. Yes, so I'm like, maybe that that that that that law or loophole is there. So in case some guy who is absolutely broke

and has his 10th or 12th kid has a way out, but I doubt that Nick Cannon gets away with not paying child support to him. I'm sure, that's crazy. You find anything done? I'm looking for it. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

I think, I mean, obviously, okay, first first off Al Pacino obviously had sex with her and then I don't think he's trying to get her pregnant So you know embarrassed you might be like fuck well, I mean, okay, I guess here we go like what are you gonna do? I mean if I'm him selfishly, I'm happy and I'm fine. That's good good for him. He's happy, but that's that's totally selfish Yeah, that's how I look at that like he of course. He's happy, but that's that's totally selfish. Yeah. That's how I look at that. Like he of course He's not upset or whatever it's like cool. I mean you know how much joy how much joy a child brings so yeah I'm sure for him. It's all great But I'm saying like yeah talk about not being responsible. I'm not thinking about the kid What is it? What is a wife look like? I'm gonna see what she works with with me

Patinos. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see the right was she 29 or 39. I got to see what she looks like. I said work with me. And patinos. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. Was I right? Was she 29 or 39? I'm not sure. I mean, she's in a 20-minute genetic. That's crazy. Like potential defects. Higher. You know, right? Like higher.

Yeah. Because, well, I mean, with the women, I know, like, it's, it's for minutes of the high level. It's still higher. Yeah. Of course, it's higher, but it's not like, not like women. Women, women, women, it gets exponentially higher as they get older, but not men, not a lot. For like issues, but still there's higher risks with an older. Yeah, 29 years old.

Do you see what she looks like? I want to see what this girl looks like. What does she, she's all laying next to this wrinkly? What's going on here? Well, I think she's got some swag to it. I mean, I still remember remember an Nicole Smith in that one Like a guy look like the grim Reaper. Yeah, at least Al Pacino looks a little bit. Yeah, not so bad. He still looks yeah Like let's see what let's see what this with this situation looks like

Oh my gosh, he looks bad. She's pretty. She's gorgeous. We talk about gorgeous and he's in wow Okay, he looks bad right there. Oh God, he looks, those must be pictures where people are trying to make him look bad, right? Get finally, for an A3 roll, he looks pretty good. That's not bad for an A3 roll. How many A3 rolls have you seen?

Oh my God, he does look bad, dude. I feel like they've chosen a really bad picture. That's why I think too, can you find me a picture where he, like actually with a dress top going somewhere nice together where like maybe he's done up a little bit because those look like people are trying to know how I wonder if this Those are those are magazine things trying to make him look like he's about to die with a young hot chick. I mean, you know Yeah, no, he looks pretty. He looks like death. Well, I mean sure

He's he didn't look bad. He's 83 bro for 83. Oh, he looks good. Yeah, okay right there. Okay. Well, that's that's he turns 80 right there That's three years ago. Yeah, for an 83 year old, he looks good. Yeah, okay, right there. Okay, well, that's, that's, he turns 80 right there. That's three years ago. Yeah. So, listen, 83 years old looks a lot older than that. Or 80 year old looks a lot older than that. So, geez man, well, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. Good job now.

I'm gonna look at my little friend, right? That's a lot of my address, huh? I guess, right? Yeah. I looked into the kids' thing, and it's not true. So the case came up actually with Nick Cannon. It was one of her, one of his baby mamas on selling Sunset the show.

She made the claim that after 10 kids, you don't have to pay child support. But it's not true. That's what he told her. That's what he said. Yeah. It looks like Nick convinced her. It's not,. Sorry babe.

Oh listen, we could date but here's the problem. I don't like to. I appreciate the hustle there but yeah. She's like okay. That's fine. Is your dollar of friends that? Sorry Nick, you got to pay. But you could tell people you have my kids.

That's worth something. Holy cow. Oh my God, it's so bad. All right, so I got, I'm going to bring up some cool, a cool study that I just pulled up on eating disorders or disordered eating, right? And there's, there's varying degrees of disordered eating. It could be as extreme as, you know, clinical anorexia or it could be the kind of disordered eating where you just have challenges with food and, you know and stuff like that. So check this out.

This is a psychology today. The title of the article is The Intersection of Trauma and Eating Disorders. So new research shows how trauma therapy helps recovery from an eating disorder up to 50% of people with eating disorders also have PTSD. And they're finding in these studies that one of the challenges with eating disorders is a large percentage of people drop out of therapy,

and then they go back to whatever they were doing before. But when these people get like therapy for trauma, the success rate is much higher, because that was the root of the self-hate, the root of why they were meditating with food, it was because of the trauma. Pretty crazy. Now, for us, as trainers, it would work for people. I don't think that's too shocking. Yeah. There's often a connection, but it's pretty cool now the medical community is starting to recognize. Yeah, they're kind of pinpointing pointing it now like yeah looking into that's good

So much how much do you think so Simon can play in a role in that well? I don't so the the trauma connected. Yeah, so the therapy the studies on therapy with You know, they'll call psychedelics side of side bin ketamine I think is up there MDMA is up there I mean, I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way as they have been. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way.

I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a lot of people who have been in the same way. I think it's a, I've talked about this before. This is a whole new frontier of- Yeah, why are we not moving faster? We are, do you, do you say, do you say, do you say,

can't I mean therapy is legal in California? Yeah. Literally, you could go right now, if you have trauma or you need to work through something or whatever, you could go to a place and you could do can I mean therapy right now with a licensed individual? Well, isn't still cyberocybin in organ legal now?

Like it's recreationally as well as... I don't know if it's legal for... I think in Colorado, they're using it for therapy already. I think it was Colorado, I saw that was using it already. I know there's some places that are. I haven't tried ket, I'd be really interested. How, I wonder how close ketamine fills like to psilocybin? I think it's very different.

I don't think ket, I have no idea to be honest with you. I've never tried it, but from what I've read, I don't think it's classic psychedelic. Yeah, I thought, I don't know. I told you wrong. There's more of like a, almost like tranquilizer. It is a tranquilizer. Okay, so here it says psychedelic drug

helped people with alcohol use to sort of reduce drinking study shows. So, okay, so MDMA for example, is in the category of psychedelics, but it doesn't make you see things like mushrooms or LSD. It's known as an entheogen, so it's a psychedelic with your emotions and perception. I think ketamine is similar. So you're not going to take it in this feeling like a MDMA feel maybe right? So you're not going to see things like if you if you did those things or notice bright colors

a lot of stuff, but rather you may be able to perceive that. That's all I feel like like a micro dose of cell size. Sure. All the times that I've done cell size and I have yet to do like a heroic dose or some crazy psychedelic. I have no desire to do that. Yeah, every time it's been like a micro dose and even though the like I don't know what you call in between a micro and a big dose or whatever, but where I can like, see ZM dose. There is a term for, I don't know. That is a term, museum dose.

Yeah, you take it in the other museums and look at shit. So I've had doses high enough that I can look at the clouds and get all the kind of psychedelics up, but then I can focus where I'm at, and then I can pull out of it. You're not like, yeah, I can pull out of it, right? So I've been there. But every time we do, it always opens doors for me.

It always is open, like some sort of connection with Katrina or something that we have been talking about in our relationship, or I see things from a different perspective and see, I can just see how much value this would have for a lot of people that I also recognize the pitfalls, the dangers, the people that are gonna chase that. We've witnessed that in our own space.

And it feels like what, every 20 to 30 years. It's not a replacement for spiritual practice. No, no, this is what people start to do with it. Yeah. And they end up chasing the high versus actually putting the work into the thing that was revealed to you. Well, they start referring to psych, this is when you know that they've gone,

I don't know, when they start to refer to these substances as God-like deities, like mother, ayah, or whatever. Like the plant will tell you, like it's a God itself. Yeah. Then what they're doing substituting a spiritual practice or religion for. But that's what's, it's a bummer because of that, because I feel like we have these two ends of the spectrum

that most people that are unfamiliar, are scared or have never messed with it. Look at it, it's like, oh, you either have the super hardcore, you know, you know, mother, ayah, oska, type people, or you have the super hardcore, you know, you know, mother, I, O'Hoskey, type people, or you have the drug seeking people, where it's like there is actually an application for this that could help a lot of people out with trauma

or relationships that go on in the middle. Go back to where that page was dug. That was a crazy stat that I was on. Whoever had the TV up there, the, I read that to, I think therapy sessions with Silasiva reduced like 85% right? Almost 90% of heavy drinking. I've seen that.

Wow, with drinking. That's incredible. It's like unbelievably successful, not like kind. Like you know like, okay, here's the thing, like we talk about, we talk about the benefits of cannabis. And cannabis has been amazing and it's got all these positive things. And you're talking about making incremental change and help for people.

You're talking about 85, 90%. That's really crazy. Because there's also, I began has like a crazy success rate as well as addiction. Yeah, heroin and heroin. Yeah. What's it I began? I began the high-end

It's this African plant that supposedly could be really powerful. It's scary. It's really unpleasant. It could be really scary. But they'll go do one dose of it. And then never one of us. Forever.

No one is heroin or opium to get. Interesting. But it could kill you. It can. That's a scary part. Yeah. No, no, it can. It's supposedly really uncomfortable.

Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. During the eight month trial, 93 men and women, ages 25, 65, were chosen to receive either two salicybony doses or any histamine pills, I guess that's the control.

And they also used a placebo. And they did 12 psychotherapy sessions. So two doses of salicybony, 12 psychotherapy sessions, more than 80% of those who were given the psychedelic treatment had drastically reduced their drinking eight months after the study started. In 80% success rate. 88 months. That's 80% success rate is insane. That's crazy. That's why I'm saying like why is it not? Because there is no pharmaceutical stylosypes. That's why. That's the only reason why. The old bullshit thing about all this is because there's not a way for Farma to make a fuck ton of money off of it. So it's like you got to to scour, as soon as that happens, hopefully,

you have a car. People will just move in that direction. Then it's gonna be like that. All right, on the medicine front, this is a massive potential breakthrough. So for parents with children who have severe food allergies, which now are way too common.

They're just, when we were kids, it was rare to know a kid with a food allergy where they could die, like a peanut allergy. These days now in most snagimy. Corn nuts, right? Nobody could eat corn nuts, right? It's really annoying. It's a corn nut allergy. Yes.

Oh, such a dick. Is that real kid? Yeah. Well, I'm not real. Corn nuts, Jimmy, we all, yeah, we stopped like bringing in food and everything because like he had allergies that were real bad. Wait, wait, are you seriously bullying Jimmy still?

I'm kidding. So, wait, wait, we're not Jimmy. I'm joking. Was it real or is it real? No, it's real, yeah. Corned Jimmy. I was kidding. But really.

But also it happened. All right, so anyway. So anyway, continue. So anyway, now schools have like peanut or allergy free tables or areas. Max can't bring, can't even have, can we can't even make him peanut butter joist out? Yeah, she was all pissed off. Because it's so bad that even just second hand exposure boom, kill you, right? And they have to have epipans everywhere.

So it's scary. My sister has a kid like that. And she's always got to be real careful. It's very stressful. She's had to use an epipen on them, I think a couple times. She's got PTSD from that experience, by the way. If you watch your... You can imagine.

You watch your four-year-old stop breathing and then you got to hit him with this thing and hope that they come back. Oh my god. So it's scary, right? Well, anyway, there's this... They've been using this patch where they'll put this patch on a kid and in the patch are micro doses or micro-ondoses of the peanut that slowly

goes into the system and I think they gradually increase the dose of the patch. They've successfully gotten these kids who are deathly allergic to be able to eat like up to one or two peanuts and have no issues. So this doesn't mean they're gonna weat peanut better jelly sandwiches, but they're now out of danger. But they can, yeah, that's what these have it around them. Yeah, they're not gonna die because you open peanuts next to them

in the dust, flu, and the air. Yeah, right. That's awesome. This is a huge breakthrough. Well, remember when we were talking about just getting his poison oak. And so with that, and I was telling you that, like, I remember hearing like one of the strategies,

people would eat poison oak or like intentionally like I've heard that. Yes, they would do that to keep like make sense. Yeah, to get it into their body adapted to it that way. Especially if you lived in an area where there was lots of it all time. Like having to get it all the time.

Like they would eat it in order to get it into their system and then their body wouldn't get the same reaction as like the average person who'd come across it. Make sense. Did you guys, you know what reminds me of that scene from one of my favorite movies the whole time, The Princess Bride. You guys ever watched that? That's one of your favorite moves.

One of my favorite moves. Just as to it, I bet. I do love it. There you go. You're the only one, Brian. I think I've seen it once. It's a great movie. Under the giant.

Six finger man. Yes, such a great movie. My name is something. My name is the scene where the guy is, the guy is like, you know, when death, you know, never messed with the Sicilian, when death is on the line and he puts the poison out. And the guy drinks it and he goes, he goes, I poison both of them, but I built up a tolerance.

It was up to tolerance, yeah. Yeah, yeah. By the way, I would caution against eating poison oak. Seems to be a myth. Oh, great, thanks Doug. Yeah. Look at that, Doug just saved us a lawsuit. Yeah.

Don't do that, kids. Yeah. Don't listen to Adam. I was a real excited to do that. Anyway, who's running out there to go put this is why you're correct. You're when I said utter because I don't know, I've been wrong so many times. Might be an utter on a boat. Hey, so the shout out has got to be that guy that we just talked about. John O'Leary. So John O'Leary. Dot inspires. Is that on Instagram, Doug?

That is Instagram, okay. You gotta find this guy, watch his talks. I'm telling you, it was moving. Yeah, love that guy. Hey, look, if you love strength training, but wanna be able to work out at home, go check out a company called PRX. They make gym, home equipment.

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or strength training is, well, there's a few factors. You're lifting something heavy, you're doing it for reps, usually under 30, and you're resting in between sets. If you cut the rest out, you are essentially doing cardio with weights. And you lose 95% of the value of the strength training. The muscle building, the metabolism boosting, makes a big difference. The fact is sculpting, you're just doing cardio with weights

and people think this is strength training, it's not. It's more conditioning, it's more endurance training than it is strength training. There's a reason why curves died. Yeah. And it was for a moment in time, one of the most popular chains in the world is it got great marketing around it, exploded, and then when everybody realized it sucks for what it's trying to accomplish.

It's calories, right? Yeah. And that's really like the benefits is burn cows. But if you're trying to actually build strength, build muscle, like it's just not as a valid of a strategy. No, it doesn't boost your metabolism. And then trying to work out to Bernie cow or lose weight to terrible strategy anyways,

we've talked about on the show many times. So it's moving. And if you don't hurt yourself, it's better than not moving. But if you're trying to gain the benefits of strength training that we talk about so much on the podcast Circuit training is just not the way to do it now There's a way to do it that'll give you some of the effects of strain training like you could do hit training With weights without too many exercises combined with the break in between

The combination and you're still not getting the same effects of strain training But you're getting some of the effects. Okay. But to 90% of people watching this or more, like, don't do that. You're also bringing up a point here in terms of like the quality of reps and the quality of the exercises. A lot of times when you put together a circuit, the actual kind of bang for your buck exercise, you don't really include those in there because they're highly technical, high risk.

And so you're gonna add a bunch of these like easier exercises to get through. And also too, like the fatigue sets in, which the fatigue actually hinders a lot of like really good performance as you're performing this. So, well, look at the to your point Justin. Remember when we used to 24th finish, they had the

What was it called is something something zone? Yeah, yeah, I Not fat so it was I can't remember what it was called You said are the fat Everybody love getting in line for that. Why are you taking a larm goes up? Why other one? Why are you taking me to the fat zone? Why do you take me to the fat zone? This turn, man. When you're like the worst trainer ever, horrible marketing, horrible marketing.

It was not called the fat zone, it was called something else. So, but it was 24-erfitness, it was there, it was there answer or response to the rise of curves. And so it literally had a machine for every muscle. So like a shoulder press machine, a bicep curl, and then a tricep machine. Your machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine machine every muscle. So like a shoulder press machine, a bicep curl, and then a tricep machine. A leg extension.

Okay, so it was like a bunch of these machines. You could do that, right? Three times through consecutive, 15 reps, 15 reps, 15 reps, like, can secondally, three times through. And it is less valuable than someone doing three sets of eight barbell backsquats. Like that's how shitty circuit training is in comparison to one exercise done eight times,

or eight reps for three sets. Like you're talking about, and by the way, it would take same amount of time or less just to do those three sets. That's how significant of a difference circuit training is to- You would get almost identical results if you literally did jumping jacks the whole time.

That's how worthless it is. So, same effect. Next question is from Mario Munoz. Six are BCAA or EAA powders worth buying? So BCAA stands for branch chain amino acids. This is loosein, isolucine and valine. Essential amino acids, which include the branch chain amino acids are all the amino acids that you have to eat

because your body can't produce them. That's why they're called essential. They're only worth buying and using if your protein intake is low and you don't want to eat more protein. Okay, so if you're eating a low protein diet, you don't want to take a protein powder to help. You don't want to eat more protein,

then these will benefit you. You'll notice more muscle, you'll notice want to take a protein powder to help. You don't want to eat more protein, then these will benefit you. You'll notice more muscle, you'll notice better recovery and more strength. Now, if you're okay with taking a scoop of protein powder, like way protein or plant protein, or you're okay with just eating more protein, that's way better because protein has bransion amino acids and essential amino acids in it. Literally, a scoop of way protein is gonna give you more of both of these than a scoop of a powder that is both of these. So if your protein takes high,

then it's like, literally, it would be like you have a, it's like having a swimming pool full of water to the rim. So, and you add more water to it, it just spills out. Does nothing. It's not doing anything more for you. Do you, do you, I'll, we get this question a lot because I know there are a market in like crazy. And I, and I try and think of like where, where I, where I would find application with, because there's, there's always seems to be some sort of application somewhere where

it's like, okay, that makes sense. It's where I give it to it. It's really hard for me here because even with the marathon runner or the endurance training person, I still think that I would do a scoop away or ready to drink protein shake, right? Like I would just do that really quick and get the calories and the pro, which my body would need both, right? I need a little bit of, get a little more glucose. I just went on a four hour run, so I'm gonna need some quick, and let's say I went on a four hour run, I'm gonna go do something else.

It's like, I wanna get quick calories, I want carbs, I want pro team, like, I wouldn't get it through, I wouldn't take pills. Yeah, is it like, if they're competing, like in their marathon run? And like, let's say, because it's like, it's a powder that can mix with water, it's like hydrating versus like a protein shake,

that's thick and, maybe, I don't know. It's like hydrating versus like a protein shake. It's thick and maybe I don't know. I'm like racking my brain for something. I had one guy that benefited from this and that's because he was a friend of mine who did Jiu Jitsu with me and he was vegetarian. His protein was low and I couldn't talk him into taking a protein powder. He's like, I don't want that process crap.

That was his answer. So for some reason, I'll take these pills instead. For some reason, he was okay. I'll take the process stuff that smashed up in a pill though. Yeah, he was able to concentrate it. Yeah, I'll take the protein powder, take out all the other amino acids, put it in a pill form, and I'll take that. That's what he did.

And he's not great results because his protein didn't take it was low, but he would got better results how do you just take an approaching powder or eat more. So I think that's a good point, so okay, this is where there is even an argument here, right? Cause then we'll be like, oh, bullshit, there's the studies that show this or it's like, okay,

if you are a man or a woman that needs to eat 180 grams of protein, let's say, every day is what is ideal for you to build muscle and you consistently only get 50 to 60 grams. And then all of a sudden, the only thing you do different is you add these BCAAs into your routine. You'll notice, it will help. But you would get the same or better results

adding a protein shake every single day. It's that exact same scenario. So then to me, it's like, why do the branch and amino acids? So I mean, that's where I have such a hard time promoting a product like this. Next question is from Kirk Pada. Is it better to skip your workout if you're tired and get more sleep or push through it

and get to the gym even though you're tired? If you're somebody that never misses a workout, then skip the workout and get some sleep. If you're somebody that consistently misses your workout, go to the gym and work out much easier. That's basically a good thing. Now, why is it easier? Because you're tired, right? Because you're tired, you don't get a good sleep. You can still go to the gym and get some benefit

from doing an easy workout. But if you're like, like if you never miss a workout, you get a night of crappy sleep, you'll actually get more benefit in terms of muscle and fat loss and health and performance from taking that day off. Yeah, that covers the basis. I've had both types of clients.

Yeah, exactly. So I would have to say those, you know, depending on which one you were, that would be right. Yeah, whichever one you're more of a chronic, are you a more of a chronic bad sleeper or you more of a chronic workout skipper? Yeah. If you're a chronic workout skipper, go to the fucking gym. Yeah.

You need to go to the gym as much as you possibly can. You miss all the guy at the time. If you are a chronic bad sleeper, then hey, maybe you're somebody who needs to get some better rest and put some emphasis on that because you'll get more results from going to the gym. I do always go back to the conversation that we had with our friend Dr. Andy Galpin when we did talk a little bit about this discussion.

And even that kind of changed a little bit of my perspective on the value of pushing through sometimes in this, there's value. There is value. And yeah, learning to adapt. Adapting or operating. That's right. That's right. That's right. That was the case. We was talking about adapting or optimizing and stuff like that. And you're not always for, you know, looking to optimize. Sometimes you're looking just to adapt and vice versa. And so there is some value in every once in a while. One yes, this is not the ideal time for me to train, but the ability to be able to push through when I don't feel good.

And so that has value to it too. So if it is something that is rare and occasional, not a bad situation, but a mental discipline there for sure. Yeah, now it'd be just full disclosure as a trainer. I never told my clients to skip a workout because then that meant I didn't have a session. I didn't win. When they were called,

it's not financially. Well, I just show up and I know when they would call me, not finally. I'll just show up and I'll let it be honest. That's just true. 99% of the clients that hired any of us needed accountability, needed someone to tell them to go to the gym. And they were working out so. So I wasn't training one of the guys in the room right here

that like I probably would tell, hey, go get, bro, you need sleep, go get some sleep, where, because you don't miss a lot of workouts, your clients miss workouts all the time. Next question is from Kyle Saliba. Any tips on starting the process of getting into bodybuilding and competing? I'll defer to you Adam. What would you say to somebody who's like,

I want to get into bodybuilding competing. What would be some of the, I guess, maybe milestones or things to focus on before doing. Correct. There's actually a lot on before doing and because it's there's there's a there's a lot right so first I think it's a really important that you have a really good relationship with exercise and nutrition and it's not some form of exaggerated form of body dysmorphia for you. I would make the case in argument that most all of the best body builders, and by the way, we have more and more than that are speaking to us. I do think it's because they hear it on

mind pump and it's gotten around by now. But you have, you know, Mr. Olympia, eight time, Mr. Olympia Phil Heath talking about his, he still suffers today with body dysmorphia, right? And so, even though we, there's so many people that admire and respect and look up and aspire to be like him, you don't want to be like him. He is he is tortured inside with body dysmorphia so bad that he's been able to chase eight trophies because of it. Like that's not a healthy relationship with exercise and diet. So first and foremost, I think you have to have a very good relationship with the quote unquote sport. And I know there's a community of people that hate for me to call it a sport because it's nothing like football or basketball or baseball.

And I feel like I can do that because I've lived in both of those fields. It's like, it is a sport in the sense that you have to be able to step out of it too and put the ball down every once in a while and be okay with that and not suffer with this crippling body dysmorphia around, oh my god, I'm getting fat now or oh my god, I just missed a meal. So I think that's first and foremost, you need to have a very good relationship with your body and what you're trying to do. Because if you don't, it's going to just amplify the hell out of what it dysmorphizes.

Right. Like, if I got into bodybuilding in my 20s, it would have been a very bad situation for me versus me getting into bodybuilding in my 30s when I'd already worked through all of that stuff. So I had a good relationship with that. Like I had a very clear vision of what I was trying to do. I was trying to use it as a way to show people, I knew what I was doing. I knew what I was doing at the highest level

so I could help build the business that we're running today. I didn't have these insecure issues about my body, and that was feeding into that, which is most people. So I think you need to have that. I also think you should be honest with yourself. If you're really trying to get into this sport, and if you want to be good at it,

it's like any other sport in this sense too, that there's certain body types that are really made for it and others aren't. Does it mean you can't have a body type? I don't think I have a great body type for bodybuilding. I still did it, but you gotta be able to look at yourself and be honest with yourself. That I'm am I a genetic freak like some of these bodybuilders, which is how I easily could step away

once I went pro. I was like, oh, you don't wanna chase the Olympia stage? And I'm like, why? Like I'm not made to be the guy who is number one on the Olympia stage. I Proving I could go pro was enough for me. So be honest with yourself with If you even have that body type and then third is learning how to Practice the the whole dieting process and getting yourself ready for stage before you ever get on to stage.

So for about a year and a half, I was running like diet cycles to try and get myself into that shredded physique to what I would present on stage practicing. You learn about your body, right? Yes, like how many calories I needed to cut, how much I needed to move. You know, if I cut this aggressively,

did I lose muscle, did I maintain, did I get lean enough? Like, so I think practicing that before you put yourself in this like position where you have to be a certain before you don't stay. What did you say also? Make sure you have a pretty healthy metabolism before you do this. That would fall in the category of the,

you know, like a few early eating 1700 calories. Yeah. You ain't gonna the category of the, you know, like a proxies eating 1700 calories. Yeah. You ain't going to do a 12 week pre- You know. That's right. That's, that comes into with the practicing the cut. Like, you, you'll see a lot of people that, and this is even more common on the women's bikini.

You see this a lot, where coaches will just put women on, on, on, on, and godly 100 calories. some cardio and low, low calorie and just destroy their hormone profile. So be very careful and understand that too. Like when you go into cut for a show, you wanna be at the highest calorie and take you've ever been in your life.

You wanna be eating a lot of calories because you got a long ways to go. Even if you're relatively lean to get shredded for a stage, you're gonna have to do several calorie restricting, calorie cuts to get there. And you want to be able to plan like, okay, if I go down, you know, 500 here, 500 here, 500 here, 500 here, what am I left with?

And is that a healthy place for me to be very long? And if it's not, I better not be in there for a very long period of time, meaning weeks or months at a time, just to get to that body fat percentage. So keep that in mind too. Right, look, if you like, mind pump, you can get a workout set up for you every single week

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