Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2123: How to Activate the Glutes During an Exercise, the Truth About Processed Foods, How Hand Position Changes Exercises & More

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

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we've been observing, this is well known, observing testosterone levels declining on a consistent rate. We're also looking at fertility has declined. In fact, a man today has half the sperm that his grandfather had. So, things are getting weird. Get your testosterone levels checked. See where they're at. Testosterone, of course, is a hormone that helps with drive, confidence, muscle mass, fat loss,

cognitive performance, and function. Low testosterone, very unhealthy. Get it tested at the very least. Find a baseline that you're at so you can test it later on and compare it But many of you may have low testosterone and don't realize it This reminds me actually I wanted to ask Doug this would you look up the the growth of hormone clinics over the last five years I know on the show predicted a while back that You know it reminded me of the green rush when marijuana clubs hit the market and we saw that, like, just explode. It felt very similar to the same thing. And I want to

see how many clinics are now out there when we first, first started because it's, it seems like this is, and I feel like this is why we're going to see it explode. Yeah. It is because this is becoming more. It's a real issue now. Yeah, it's becoming more and more. It's not common knowledge yet, but it's getting there. Well, what's crazy is that this has been observed for like five decades, that we've seen testosterone levels consistently decline, you know,

every year. And now there's lots of speculation as to why, you know, some people say it's lifestyle, we're moving less. You can't really reduce it down to a few things. It's all, is a multitude of factors. Chemicals, right? There's certain chemicals that are estrogenic or have effects in the body.

Okay, if we had the three of us had to check, like the top five, how would you order them? Oh, how would I, I would 100% order chemicals as number one. Whoa, really? I would, over, really asleep. I would, I would, I'll put that number one. I wouldn't have done this before, but the more and more I learn about these chemicals and the, the, how they're powerful.

Yeah. Oh, my God. There's one in particular, I can't remember the name of, I gotta find it. There's one in particular. Can't remember the name of it. I gotta find it. There's one in particular that was banned in Europe and not banned here and it's still being used and it's been shown. I'm gonna pull it up right here. Interesting.

See, I would lay, I would put... Atrazine. Have you guys heard of Atrazine? I have heard of Atrazine. It wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one out of 10 into females. By the way, this was, which is named, Alex Jones.

Alex Jones talked about this. He's always the alarmist, like super crazy version of like what may potentially be some truth. So yeah, so that was in water, like in some of the drinking water, is that where they found it? Yeah, so it's an herbicide and it's our food and water supply. And the European Union abandoned, but it's not abandoned. That's one, by the way.

There's so many different chemicals that can affect your hormone system. Wow, you tell you go one. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, because we're exposed at like ridiculous levels now. I mean, I don't have an argument really I just I just my theory is I think Diet and lack of movement has to be up there definitely. I would go I would say that's up in their top three. Yeah, right

I would I would say that for sure Because you see this across the board. You see this with athletes too They test the stochron levels of athletes those are going down too. Now they still have good testosterone, but it's been affected. And they've actually separated athletic men and compared them. There's not great studies, but there are some studies that show that.

Oh, see, I didn't know that. Yeah, and then fertility. Wow. So here's the other one. It's not just testosterone, it's also fertility. Like I said, we are producing half the sperm that a generation or two is supposed to be correlated though. Like if you go down and swear your fertility

is also gonna go dramatically down. You know if you go down testosterone? Yeah, it's yeah. So, I mean, maybe, yeah, they could be connected for sure. But I don't know if you would produce necessarily less sperm because you're not as active. Maybe your sperm wouldn't be as healthy. Maybe not, it's not a, you know, causation, but I would say there's a pretty direct correlation.

I mean, there's a direct correlation to that. So that's kind of like a, like, fertility. This is like a big deal. You know, if we really, if we mess with our, at this rate, I don't remember what the statistics show, but at this rate, I think within a couple generations, like, we're not going to be able to make kids anymore. So it's pretty crazy. So wild. Yeah. And the reason why I'm saying this is, you know, go get your testosterone levels checked.

And there's a range that you're going to get with considered, you know, common. That's not necessarily what's healthy. The common range is like this really low to really high. You want to be towards the upper range of that, especially if you're under 20s. And optimizing that makes a big difference in your behaviors and how you feel. What does that say right there? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so it can directly affect. So they are connected, but I don't know, man, it's wild when you look at the data and how long we've known that this has been happening and how nobody's really been. Yeah, I mean, you just shocked me. I wouldn't have guessed you to say that chemicals is number one. I mean, that's pretty wild to me. Yes. And I know where the backlash on that would be is the studies on all these chemicals individually

by themselves, right? And you're not accounting for, which there is no studies for is something that takes an account. All of these different chemicals that we are constantly either breathing in, touching, sleeping in, rubbing in our skin, and what that does potentially, right? It's like, they wouldn't be get past FDA, wouldn't be approved for usage if that, that it, as it, by itself, at high high levels wasn't safe and okay to use. But what no one is doing is saying,

like, oh yeah, well, what do you put in your hair? What do you put on your skin? What do you sleep on your bed? What's on your skin? If you're already unhealthy, how much of a more massive impact that makes sure that's another component. The immune system's a bit more compromised.

And so having all these other external factors come in and go through the population with the virus. Well, being healthy, being fit and healthy allows your body to detox these chemicals faster and easier too. So you're likely to build up some of these loads. But I mean, for sure the fact that people are less active getting less sun, probably worse sleep in their diet is worse is definitely up there.

So I mean, you know, if I saw a study that said that, that was more of an impact in chemo, would it shock me? No. But I definitely think that yeah, I just I think that we would all agree on that. For sure. I mean, that one for me is like a no brain error. And but that's also person because of my personal experience. Like I, I, I, I have felt that like dramatic difference because of my personal experience. I have felt that dramatic difference

because of I went through somebody who's synthetically taking lots of hormones and then not taking them and then gone through the natural dip afterwards and then felt what that felt like and then also felt what it felt like to dial the diet in and strengthen and what a dramatic. I also tried all the different supplementation and I've tried to limit all the chemicals.

I've done a lot of that stuff to try and do my best of naturally increasing it. And to me, nothing felt more than eating healthy, high protein, good amount of healthy fats, good calories, and strength training. That's amazing. Like that. Yeah, that, and strength training. That's amazing. Like that. Yeah, that, I like felt that.

Well, strength training helps with testosterone in two ways. It raises testosterone consistently, if done right, of all forms of exercise it does it the best. And then it also does this kind of double whammy where it up regulates androgen receptors. That's where the testosterone attaches to. So you get a rise in testosterone, plus the testosterone that you do have becomes more potent in your body

because of increased androgen receptors because of more muscle mass. So it's the single most impactful thing you can do aside with sleep and diet. Now the chemical stuff, the reason why that's a hard one to focus on is because, like where do I start? What's the biggest fender? Like, you know, what do I do? But lifting weights, you know, eating good, getting good sleep, those alone can have hugely protected. Well, strength, strength diet, strength, diet and sleep are the only three two that you

could literally measure instantly, right? You see a difference? Like you get porcelain, like measure someone's testosterone after a good night's sleep, right? It's the same time, right? Eight in the morning, they wake up with their testosterone levels,

now intentionally have terrible sleep the next day. They measure it and you'll see a drop. Do the same thing with, you know, starve your body of nutrients for a day, test it, see what happens, feed it appropriately, test it, see what happens, say anything goes a string training, no string training whatsoever, do it, test it,

and see what happens, and there's this, that's why those make the top three for me because they're that dramatic that like, you could literally remove them or manipulate them in a single day and see a fluctuation on that. Yeah, well with food it would take a little longer, but the point you're making is true. Like if you work out and you eat right and you sleep right,

let's say you test your testosterone levels today. And then for 60 days, you get really good sleep in comparison to what you were getting before, your diet's a lot better in comparison, and your lifting weights appropriately, I say appropriately because you could overdo it, or do it wrong, but you're lifting weights appropriately, so you're stronger at the end of 60 days significantly.

Then go get your testosterone levels checked, and it's almost guaranteed you'll see an improvement. It's almost guaranteed you'll see better, total levels, better free testosterone. You can't measure this necessarily, but you should have increased density of Andrew Germer-Septors. By the way, did you guys, there's a study that's being circulating right now. This is how crazy.

So it's so weird. When we started the podcast, we identified the fitness industry at large, the marketing behind it, the supplement selling, make everybody feel bad about themselves, buy our shit. You know, here's terrible information side of the fitness industry as the enemy

that we were trying to really counter and fix because they weren't helping anybody. But what's becoming more and more evident is there's another enemy that's coming out against people's health. And this one's a little bit more, way more nefarious. Scary and nefarious and cunning,

and they play a long game. And so it's repeating itself. It's weird. So I'll read you the title of the study that is making its rounds right now. And first off, the title itself, they're already using, they're already politicizing the study to try to make it sound a particular way. But I'll read the title here. And this

is what's been flying everywhere. testosterone administration induces a red shift in Democrats. That's the, that's what That's what they're saying. So let me break it down for you, because this is not the first study to show that. There's actually multiple studies that show, not with that title set. I want everybody just relax for a second, because that's a politicized title.

They're really smart with how they twist shit. But what the study found has been found in previous studies. So here's what they found. First off, in the study itself, hardcore Democrats, hardcore Republicans, given testosterone, they don't change their views. Okay. People who are in the middle who kind of lean a little bit

and will label it as left tend to go more towards the right when they're given testosterone. Now, what people need to understand is it's not necessarily, I was a Democrat now, I'm a Republican, that's how they're labeling it. What it is is when they give men who like more regulations, more help, government, safety nets, less free market type stuff, that kind of stuff, more like quote unquote, safety from big brother. They move towards that with low testosterone. You give them testosterone, then they move towards more, well, we should be more free. We should let free markets kind of thrive a little bit

more. I don't think you should be monitoring us that much for our quote unquote safety. We should be able to protect ourselves, that kind of stuff. Now they've labeled it left and right, and I guess you could loosely do that, but really what it is, and a nutshell, is that testosterone is a feel good, confident, empowering, yeah, empowering kind of hormone. Anybody who's ever been low testosterone versus high testosterone can tell you that's the case. So people who go from low to high testosterone become more likely to want less control and smaller government. Or if you look a little deeper, want less control and smaller government. Or if you look a little deeper,

or less harder to manipulate, which the state does not like. Right. Right. So they painted it as like, it's a red shift in testosterone, does this or whatever. Like that doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna vote Republican.

You could also vote Libertarian or vote for more, I guess, small government Democrats, if anyone exists these days, but people advocate for their own health. Yes, less manipulatable. That also kind of strengthens what I've been talking about and people have called me some conspiracy theory. I've gotten so much negative stuff in the past and now people are starting to come around where I've said, man, I'm starting to see more and more articles demonizing fitness. You know what, and I thought that movement kind of was going to die off. Like to be very

honest, like I thought that was just at the time was somewhat relevant to kind of like throw shade at some, I guess, I don't know, like the big conservative movement or whatever. And like people advocating for opening up, you know, a lot of the lockdowns and all that kind of situation. I thought it was relevant then, but to see it now pop up again and to put that out there, it's like to us, it just sounds absurd, right? And to a lot of people listen, it sounds absurd. This is just absurd, you're just gonna just miss it.

You're gonna see this come up again. And then you're gonna see it come up again later. And it's like this constant like gaslighting in a day, like they're just going to inundate you with this idea. Yeah, you have to look at because the best marketers, the most, I guess, the smartest, most cunning manipulative marketers in the world work for politics. They spend billions of dollars. They've just studying it for decades for a long time. They're really good at getting people to kind of to change their behaviors or to be scared or angry or hate people. They're really good at that, especially the negative

emotions. So we got to piece it all together, right? So we're getting articles that say things like lifting weights makes men more aggressive. Muscle is toxic masculinity. Gems are these unacceptable places. They're fat phobic. This one said, the far rights obsession with fitness was this other article. Now that's making it. Then you combine that with fat is beautiful, health at any size. You know, kind of like promoting unhealthy body image in the opposite extreme with obesity and stuff like that. And if you piece all that together, we start to see is they just want us to be very healthy. Weak, unhealthy, obedient conformists.

Yes, they don't want us to be very healthy because they can't sell us this much stuff, they can't scare us as much. They were not going to make bias many pharmaceuticals. And especially man, because man, you know, if you really weaken man, boys, it's easy to take over a whole movement or whatever. So that's kind of, it's pretty alarming. Everybody's like, oh, no, man, look at, like, it's starting to happen. It's really starting to get better. And like this study again, it's so funny, the way that they worded it. It's like this red shift.

Like they're already trying to make people demonize testosterone, you know what I mean? The part that I always have a hard time with this is like, who is they? Who's they, you speak of? There's obviously people putting it out. Yeah. Okay, so they all are meeting together?

Well, you know, we know each other, text each other, they're on a group thread. Like who is that? I think anybody who falls under that telegis. That's how you say agencies. So, I'm meeting each other. Well, you know, we know each other, text each other, they're on a group thread. I think anybody who falls under that technology. That's how it is agencies. Well, I mean, if you want to go that far, well, that's what you're alluding to. Yeah.

I mean, who is they? Like, who is they, and are they all aligned with the way they're colluding? Or is it just, I think, look how everybody was in collusion with like all the different companies and media companies. They're all saying the same exact message through the entire COVID process.

Yeah. Very plausible that they have an initiative to, you know, control the population and get us to do what they want. Well, look, here's a thing too. Whenever, especially when there's elections coming up, you see the fear-mongering scale, the fuck up. Why? Because it's very easy to get people to vote

a particular way if you scare them and it's easier to get them to hate someone than it is to get them to love someone. So it's just, it's just, yeah, I get that because then, I mean, anytime there is a lot of money or power at stake, this is when the most effort is going to be put forth, right? And so when it comes to

running for the president, like there's nothing more powerful and potentially impacting money-wise. And so there's going to be a ton of effort and money put behind swaying people one way or another, you know. But when we say things like day, I'm always just like, you know, who is like, who is getting together and all organizing it like this to collude and actually, you know, control that big of a narrative? And is it like a handful of people? Is it like hundreds of people that are all on? Is it working? I mean, what's, what's defined working? Well, shaping the culture and changing the way that we, uh we word things and accept certain concepts and all of it is like a very systematic way of receiving information.

I mean, is that fear and thought process any different than our dad's dad? Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, I mean, look, I'll tell you what, there's articles now that you couldn't even imagine 10 years ago getting published. You couldn't imagine, could you imagine an article? I know that that read back.

Deemanizing fitness 15 years ago. Everybody like, what? What are you talking about? Why would you, what do you talk about demonizing fitness? Like it's, it's great. It's like fitness is good for you. Yeah, that's why it's absurd. It doesn't make sense unless it's like part of some reasons.

Right. Well, I mean, but back to my point with your dad's dad. I mean, your dad's dad would say that about commercials, television, articles, clothing that kids can wear, that stuff they can watch and see, like music they can listen to. That, if you went back in time, just 60 years, project, some of the things that we think is totally normal, I think, would be freaking out.

Well, look too. It's one of the most well-known occurrences like this was when big tobacco colluded with regulators and government to lie about the connection between cancer and tobacco. That's a very good example of who they is. Like they is the company tobacco. You know, they're looking out for their best interest to make the most amount of money. And so they put out all this narrative that is like, so that's why when I say they,

who is they in this situation? Because that's very clear to me. That's very clear that, and why they would do that. They're motivated into profiting. I think it's hard to define because it's so elusive. It's like you can go down a rabbit hole and then there's disinformation and misinformation that purposely kind of leads you in crazy directions.

But there's also a lot of truth. And when you look back and look at a lot of lies and you look at a lot of manipulation and fraud and deliberate things that were passed based off of, you know, some of these, these things that they're trying to sway people's opinion. Yeah, by the way, what you're doing right now, Adam, whether you realize it or not, is how people try to argue down any concern? Oh, yeah, well, who's the bookie man? Name them. What does he look like?

I'll tell you who they is. It's the ideology. I'm gonna give a fuck who's behind it. They, when I say they, it's this insane ideology that is starting to get promoted, that it's telling people that it's good to be unhealthy, that it's bad to have testosterone, that it's bad to lift weights, it's toxic,

that it's good to stay at home, that it's good to lift weights, it's toxic, that it's good to stay at home, that it's good to just jerk off to porn, not meet with people that that's all good and all the other stuff is bad. And it's not that bad for you, don't worry about it. Let your kids be on their all day long. It's not a big, like that's the, I don't, whoever it is, I don't care.

It's the ideology that I want to counter. And will you think that's, and when it comes to health and fitness, that's my space. That's, that's, that's, do you think, like, do you think though that maybe it is an example like the tobacco one where it's actually a collection of all these different Companies and politicians and people but we're grouping them all in together as they and they're really not all clued together It's like this group it cares about the messaging around health and fitness because it's what serves them and their agenda.

This group over here is putting out this message because it serves them for this. And then that collectively doesn't align with your ideology and value. And so then you lump them as they as if they're on the same team when in reality it's a bunch of individuals that are trying to profit or... Yeah, I don't know if it's a game power. It's interesting because if you could, yeah, I don't know if it's a game power thing because if you could yeah I mean I see you're going with that but like it To like what's the article about it's about like Democrats like turning into Republicans also my going to the gym

If I'm gonna sum it up right like so so now it's like oh well then what is it the Democratic party like putting out this information to try and salvage like You know it causes Staria towards anybody that's going into the job. It's just no idea why that would be the case. It's just really, it's, I don't know, it's really weird to see and to read. Look, think about the market right now, all the markets, like all the stuff out there, products. Think of all the products that you can buy that are very profitable. Now think of a healthy consumer in every sense of the word, healthy physically, mentally, stable versus an unhealthy consumer, okay?

Which one is more valuable to most of the markets that are out there? Walk through the grocery store. How many foods are attractive or are gonna be purchased by healthy consumers versus unhealthy consumers? For pharmaceutical drugs, how many drugs are taken by healthy consumers versus unhealthy consumers?

Habits, how many habits are taken up and spent money spent on by unhealthy versus healthy and so on. So it's just maybe they're, I mean, I'm not saying that there's one like, like lizard king that's what it's like. One of the reasons why I have a really hard time, like even like, like getting bought into any, any idea like this, like of day or is that the, where we get this information, the article you're reading right now,

is through news outlets and social media platforms and they are not incentivized to tell the truth on either side, they're incentivized to get eyeballs and clicks and anytime that you incentivize a bit and if you don't, you die. Like if you do not get more clicks and views than a company who is all out to tell the truth, that one that's all out to judge it will not get advertisers,

will not get views, will not get clicks, and will eventually dissolve. Unless you find somebody who is just out there that wants to pump billions of dollars into- pharmaceutical companies. Right, so you're gonna have these people that are driving clicks in it. And so they're incentivized to do that. So it's

in their best interest to put news out, whether it's on the left or the right to be alarming and to get us to discuss debate, talk, share, and do stuff about. So they're incentivized to kind of lie about things or exaggerate things because that's what gets people talking about it. If the truth is kind of like lame and boring and not as radical and scary and crazy and conspiracy like, then they're not going to say it or share it because it's not good enough. Here's a deal. There's definitely some truth in that. And I used to think that was all it was until I started seeing more companies seemingly purposely tank themselves, tank themselves. I'm like, why are you doing this?

You saw what happened to this company. They got destroyed. Now, you're getting crushed. And then you see another company do it. You're getting crushed. Wait a minute. Don't you guys know that consumers aren't buying into this? And then you learn about things like ESG and these boards that operate and influence from

the top down, not the consumer driving, but rather them influencing through regulation investors saying, you must have products like this, you must represent this, otherwise you're not getting, this is all real by the way, you look so, otherwise you're not getting funding. And so that's why right now you look at companies like, why would they do that?

Don't they know they're gonna get destroyed? Here's why they're doing it, because they're told to do it from a top-down type of model. So I wish it was pure market-based, because it would be a little bit better. It wouldn't be, I think, like I said, it seems to be accelerating. And the fact that they're coming after fitness is insane to me.

It's absolutely insane to me because there's nothing that it does that's bad. You could of course approach it in a bad way. You can connect dots to it. It's a tough line to tow without sounding like you're just a pissed off lunatic, you know. But to the stats we were talking about earlier about like how much the influence of the pharmaceutical companies have on all the marketing share of every media outlet here is alarming as hell. And people should really look into that and then decide for themselves how much of that

information is really authentically coming from, you know, to me that's way more cut and clear. Right. I mean, that's just like, it's very, that's very obvious. You can tie that into what we're talking about is my point. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's, that goes back to my point of like, you know, are we lumping these, all these separate things into one when they're this one, that might be obviously, right? Right. Like pharmaceuticals are obviously like incentivized to control the narrative on pro their drug and avoid

Conversation around things that are anti theirs, right? That's obvious and so they're gonna control that They can do everything in their power to do that through money with these networks. That's obvious to me But then you go over to the fitness one and so like that like I don't know if that's the same people that are colluding I think that I think both those things tend to not align with your ideology Oh, so you're arguing that you don't think that there's like a thing this like I think I think that, I think both those things tend to not align with your ideology or how. So you're arguing that you don't think that there's like a thing. I think there's probably, to what you're bringing up,

there is probably a very specific or isolated situation that is, or reason behind what that is. And I'm also saying that it could be as simple as like, we know that this is controversial and that this will get a bunch of debates and talks and arguments and fighting amongst people because there is going to be a right wing person that is going to defend this and be a left wing person to go the other way. And so we're just going to put that bullshit out there, even though it doesn't have a lot of legs to it, but we know that it's going to get talked about.

I don't know. It is interesting because like I said, you're keeping some layers. I know. I think that's where people will get tripped up And I mean right on a layer and then it does higher layer and then doesn't it also you know here I'm gonna dip into your guys a little conspiracy thing says here's where the the conspiracy side of me comes out It's like all of it is just put out there because it's what's really going behind the scenes There's nothing to do with anything you think

It's like this is all to get you all distracted just like like the Colosseum was, you know, back in the days, is just like pay attention to all this fighting. I laughed, I think, as long as I was really. Yeah, pay attention to all this crazy drama and argue over these articles or that, meanwhile, we're doing some backdoor shit on you that you're not even, it has not connected to another of that bullshit because that's because you're not looking in that direction. At the end of the day though, I will say this, whatever is going on, a person is in the best position to not be manipulated or taken advantage of or go down the wrong path, if you will, if they're the fit healthy version of themselves.

In other words, regardless of whoever is messing with you, you're less likely to be messed with if you're truly healthy, if you're really healthy. And I mean, that's not on every sense, not just physical, but mental, spiritual, solid, you feel good, you're just harder to mess with. You're harder to mess with. Not saying you're impervious,

it's just, you feel confident, you feel strong, you're less likely to be afraid, you're less like whipped. You have more, you have more positive filter through which you view things. You're more likely to be kind. This is all proven, by the way, like you're less irritable, like it's so funny to me how they'll paint, like people who work out as being aggressive or whatever. That's not so opposite. Being unhealthy, having low testosterone, all that stuff, more inflamed, makes you irritable, makes you feel like shit.

When you're fit and healthy, you feel good. You're less likely to be aggressive, not more likely. I mean, I feel like a lot of you might look scarier, but you're not scarier. I feel like a lot of them say something that it's probably because even more people do not like me today. We say today, you've already done that so much today.

I'm already, I know I'm winning people over right now. So Maze will go all in. I think personally that almost all of this can go back to the movement in our culture to remove God from everything. Oh well. Because a lot to me, that's where all of this stems from. It stems from this, like trying to go the opposite direction so hard without foreseeing

where that leads. And in theory, you know, say whatever, how many years ago or how many decades ago that began happening where we started to move in that direction, you didn't foresee like the slippery slope that that led to. And now you're committed and you're all into that of rejecting God so hard that you didn't see where that was going to end. You know what's in me that is less conspiracy. Toriel and more easily could have happened. You know what's interesting about what you're saying? Forget the metaphysical, you know, the whole like that side of it. Just look at the psychology. Look at psychology, look at history.

The structure and the distance. Not just that, look at how we evolve, how culture is developed. It's pretty clear that people need a unifying belief system in order to continue to work together and move in the right direction. So that's more efficient. And it's just clear.

So, and along those lines, think we had found one that has had kept us moving in this collective direction for hundreds of years. Sounds interesting. And just recently, we have decided that we are going to dismantle it. And that has been growing in that direction. And I think what we see unfolding

is all the repercussions from that. And then it's easy to think that there's this they group that is controlling your mood. Or it's just that like a bunch of idiots, we've sold this idea so hard that this God thing is this made up this guy thing, then that's so bad for us. And so we're going the opposite direction.

And what we are happening to see in our lifetime is what the unfolding of that looks like, and why we probably, for thousands of years, stayed in that direction. You know what I like to tell people who are like atheists or whatever, because I was there too, is look at the commonalities between the most widely practiced religions, and what you'll find is

spiritual truth. So because they get caught up in the, well, how do you know your religion is the right one? How do you know this is the right one? I forget that for a second. Look at the commonalities and what you'll find there is wisdom in human behavior. That's what you'll find. You'll find that the reason why these people did this, that people did this, this people to that and why they all believed in this particular way is because it works.

There's some spiritual truth. And what I find very interesting is, like, you know, religions will talk about sin or, you know, what you do that's wrong or whatever. What's interesting, that all goes down to that people, whether we are aware of it or not, because we act willingly, like we have choice, at least we believe we have choice, but whatever you want to argue, at the end of the day, we end up following

something that we worship, whether we know or not. It's like, at the end of the day, I am choosing something because I like it better than something else, and when you take that out, then again, human behavior shows when you take that out, then again, human behavior shows that you take God out, you end up following like earthly things that we know are not good, like money, pleasure, power,

like all these things that we know, we all know. Like even atheists will tell you, oh yeah, if you worship money, power, pleasure, honor, it's like those are all, they turn people into evil people. So I mean, you could be right. Well, and I also think to close the loop on the whole they argument that I'm trying to make is that it's also in our nature to want to blame it on a thing or find a culprit, right? I mean that's like I mean they've known that forever. It's like how we get convinced us to go to war and stuff like

that as we find an enemy and it's he's could Is some of the law and is the one who's responsible for all this or so and so is this or the left is this or the right is that It's like we it's in our human nature to want to do that when I don't I don't think it's this isolated person Or maybe I'm here. I think it's yeah It is more in the I think it's more us as a society and that this is what happens when you remove something that is so important to a culture and I think it's unfolding right before our eyes. And what do we do?

We wanna point the finger at each other. No, it's your fault, no, it's your fault. No, it's their fault, it's the last fault, it's the right's fault. And in reality, it's like, no, this is what happens when you remove that and it's playing out real time for us. Give me more distractions, give me more drugs, make your children bad actors of the still. Well, I mean, that's, no, that I'm not arguing. I'm saying that.

No, I'm totally, I see your train of thought and I totally, yeah, all of that. Yeah, and I, and in terms of like the dismantling and the fracturing, the chaos that ensues, we don't have a common... Well, here, you open a candle, we're in fine, we'll go down that. So, okay, so do you think that in that case, in that context that there's spiritual warfare going on then? Yeah, of course. That they is the bad spiritual side that's... I mean, I do, because that's my belief.

Look at it too, it's like the dark side of human behavior versus like, you know, following, you know, more of a positive like, uh, uh, that's a less as a tarot way to look at it. It's a less as a tarot way to look at it. So you get people are driven by maybe nefarious means because it, it brought them, uh, what they were looking for, which was power, which was money, which was influence, which was these things. I got them to this place in powerful position. And so now they're just implementing the same tactics, but they're the ones now that have

the seat. You know what sucks about all this? What sucks is that the people that we tend to elect or put in charge, the type of people that desire that position so badly, or they're wrong. Exactly the people that we're saying so badly. Are there wrongs? Exactly the people that we're saying for that, right? The best leaders, the ones that don't want it. Yeah, yeah.

It's like those are, and it's like, those people have been eyeballing that position since they were probably the ones in one. It's a push forward, and they're like, ah, no. Yeah, I know. I wish we had a different way of the way we elected people to run cities, run our, run our, run our, be our leaders, right? It's just the way we do it is not the right way. We did it in

this gamesmanship way. And, you know, it's turned into a way of manipulating and stepping on people to get to that. They're going to spend like, like, four billion dollars for this presidential election, like four billion dollars for this presidential election. Four billion dollars. Why so much money? Because there's a lot of influence and a lot of shit happening there. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so much money in it. Oh yeah. There wouldn't be ironing.

All the energy is so much more logical. The ironing is that where you're in this trillion dollar debt. Right. There's spend billions of dollars. There's so much. So we just spend less. Over what asshole should be elected? When none of these assholes take away all corporate influence That'd be great.

And the best time we actually you know what we bet we probably would find a better leader for this country by blindly fucking throwing a rock into a crowd Yeah, this guy like a guy. Yeah, there's a good guy. He doesn't want to be a bob. Yeah, Bob. You're the president. I don't know anything. No, where you'll figure it out. Either the last guy. No, Bob. You're the president. I don't know anything. Don't worry. You'll figure it out either the last guy

Know my favorite is at the end of it like with a good guy, Bob at the This has this by always happens every single time at the end of it You have two candidates and everybody's like that's the two people we have to pick from how did this happen? Yeah, every time what was the South Park didn't episode? I think it was oh, yeah It was a turt sandwich versus like a douchebag douchebag. Those are the two choices. Yeah, the more for the school. That still holds true. Yeah. I got to watch South Park. They're so good. They are. They're so good. I would I tell you what you know people ask us all the time like I and I never think of them as a name but of like oh who would you love to interview like that? Oh yeah. In tree parker. Do you know that

they went to you know this? I mean you you know, I talked about this. Finally bring up well, uh, uh, something I had up here to talk about. Oh, good. So they went. Did you guys know they went to I think it was Academy Award show. Yeah. Dressed in JLo's, uh, uh, uh, dress, like the, the, the Steve Green one that was like, got her all this. Yeah, the famous tension stress. And they were tripping on acid. Yeah, the other one was like, Gwen, Gwen Paltrow or something. Yeah, they're, I love those guys. They're so hilarious. So could you imagine like it interview, they're just hanging out with them.

It would be a fun conversation. So check this move out, right? So you know, on South Park, I don't know if you know this episode specifically, but they Cartman like has this like, loves Casabanita, it's like this big Mexican restaurant that's like amazing and it's got all this entertainment. It has like cliff divers and they have like

all these very specific, it sounded like real specific, it's a real place, apparently. Oh really? And so it was a real Casablanita. Yeah, it's a real Casablanita and it like went out of business because it's just like, it was all entertainment. The food wasn't really great, you know, and it was like,

but it was all part of the childhood of a, I guess, the South Park, a craters. And so they have this like kinship to it. And so they decided that, I guess, through the pandemic or whatever, I just got obliterated. You know, that was like the end of them. And so they had the opportunity to talk to the owner to acquire it.

And now, I guess they could have just demolished it, started over and rebuilt it for fraction of the cost. But they were like, no, no, we wanna just like improve it, refurbish it, and they're like, this is gonna be expensive. This is gonna be astronomical. You know how much they're in already for refurbishing this place? 40 million.

What? Look, can we look it up? Can we see pictures? I wanna go there. Yeah. Where is it at? So they have real cliff divers that like perform and they do extra suits.

They want you to re-do it. They want you to re-do it. Like a Disney land? Yeah. It's basically, it's like an amusement part almost. It's gotta be pretty big to be 40 million. It's big. And so they're doing a soft launch right now

where they're like, they're sending emails for people to come check it out. But it's like, they're literally like, this would bankrupt us if we just stop doing what we're doing now. So we have to keep working. You know what? Well, so you know what, I like about this. It's like a bunch of rich dudes who are like,

eh, if we just break even through. I love that. I love that. So do I. That's what you know. That's why I thought it was so cool. That's why we're gonna open a gym one. That's a Robin big was one of my favorite shows because of that. I love that. So do I. That's what you know. That's what I thought was so cool. That's why we're going to open a gym one.

That's a Robin V was one of my favorite shows because of that because like the way they spent money, it's like I've never been a kid being like this is like how I'd like one day we're all going to open a gym. Yeah. The same mentality. We're going to be like, if it breaks even that's all I care. This is like everybody. Everybody's got it's got fond memories.

It's in Colorado. So. Oh, that's it right there. Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. Oh wow. Yeah, so they redid all that. That's really cliff Divers do their thing and so they put shows on every like I don't know 50 minutes or something. You Don't remind me of you guys who have been a rainforest cafe

Yeah, I guess anywhere Yeah, yeah, that's so terrible Yeah, but they got like you know entertaining things. Yeah. Yeah. So they improved it about a new chef. I was thinking for good Mexican food though.

Maybe that's why. Yeah. Maybe that's why. So they actually brought in like a different chef and they, they, because there's distinctive memories, I guess some of the dishes, but they weren't very good. So they made those actually really good. Oh, okay. Like the same kind of stuff.

You see, they haven't't you said soft launches coming? Yeah, they're doing like just some people they're emailing in the area to come. We should be able to get on a list like I would love to go check it out. Send an email. Send an email. Tell me you want to go there. Yeah. I just like to. Casamonita.

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We're about to add a sushi to the dessert. Disgusting. Let's just come in on a private jet the same day, bro. It's not probably that great sushi. Yeah, do a little bit of that. Thanks. So there was a study on fitness and epigenetics. I wanted to tell you guys about.

It was a cool study because we've speculated, now for a while, that exercise obviously affects the body, you adapt to it, but it also changes how your genes behave. This is known as epigenetics. So you have genes, but your genetic can express themselves differently depending on the environment. And we've long speculated that exercise will do this. Well, now we have a study on twins, where they'll have identical twins, one of them's active,

the other one isn't, and indeed exercise induces epigenetic changes that are protective against things like metabolic disease, type 2 diabetes. So does that mean it's like absolutely changing your profile? It changes how your DNA is expressed themselves. That's gonna be the ultimate ideal test group, right? Yes, always. You don't have identity. That's the goal standard.

Because this also goes back to what I asked you a while back when you had a relius. And we were talking about how muscular it was. And of course, your wife is very muscular. So she got some his jeans. But then I said, do you think there's a difference of you compared to 20 year old you had your first two, like because you've changed, you've built so much muscle,

like we know that there's change in that. That information has to be passed on. And an example that is true. And I'm talking all the time about how, once you build all this muscle up, even when you lose it, you get it right back. There's obviously a code that's been written there. There's obviously a communication.

I mean, it's plausible. I mean, I'd been working out since I was 14, so I'm sure I had epigenetic changes then too, but not to the level. Are there epigenetic changes that occur over time that are more profound? I don't know. It doesn't influence how your sperm,

the type of DNA your sperm has and how it expresses itself. We know that women, when they're pregnant, what they eat in their environment changes how genes are expressed in the womb. So I mean, it could be. It wouldn't have been weird if your personality is just literally the culmination of like a couple hundred generations of people that you've just acquired. The next version. the next version,

the next version. I mean, next version. And it just becomes more vibrant at the end. Why am I so scared? Why am I, of swimming? You know, you're great. Did I break that fear? Oh yeah, drown, right?

Yeah. You have four people that drown, you're last, likes down the tree there. I know, I know it's kind of weird. Anyway, another thing too, here this more health related. I know, I know, it's kind of weird. Anyway, another thing to hear this more health related. I have a list of the, because this is now starting to make around a little bit.

Do you guys remember a while ago when that study came out, that showed that vegan protein powders were the worst when it came to heavy metal contamination? Yeah. Do you guys remember that? I remember we called organify. Yeah, I remember. You're learning. I remember you got the study right away and we were this was like early on when we first were just starting to sign

Partners we were all excited because we thought well we got this great new partner and Organify was that partner and and that article came out shortly after and you're like fuck like what we cannot partner with this company if they're on there and I remember you Yeah, we got on the phone the next day. No, they test for all that. So they're very clean. But here's the worst ones that tested on these tests. And a lot of these are the most popular brands. You'll see it like Whole Foods, Garden of Life,

Nature's Best, Quest, 360 Cuts, and Viga, yeah, Viga, Quest, Chocolate Milk Shake, Protein Powder, and then Vegauts and Viga. Yeah, Viga. Quest, chocolate milkshake protein powder, and then Vega or Vega. Those are the worst ones. Vega, Quest and Garden are like three of the very popular. Vega, huge. Wow. Now how crappy is that?

Like you're taking a protein powder and you're building toxic levels of heavy metals. Wow. Holy shit, that's terrible. Wow. Yeah, but organified tests for all that stuff and they're excellent. They have third party testing.

You can, they're vegan protein powders legit. They test also for glyphosate residue. Way more stuff than that they're required to test for. To test for. So take us back out of health and back into speculating. Yeah, this is like a speculating episode. All right. We went hard there for that.

I know, I'm gonna take it, well, maybe not so hard, but I'm gonna take us back in that direction because it just reminded me of something that I was thinking about the other day that I thought was interesting and I would love to hear you guys kind of speculate on it. So, you know, it's become obviously widely known that, you know, Instagram and these social platforms

where you post pictures and stuff of yourself is like this, the ultimate highlight reel, it's not real. This is like everybody's best picture. You want one for yourself. Right, right. And in fact, there's also this kind of counter movement where people started posting like, you know, like them with no makeup on and looking shitty and this like the other. It's all way to be at the end of the...

You still... Right, right. And even you get some people that completely like, you know, bash people for like only sharing these highlight reels of the life. But then it got to me thinking is like, or like, okay, if just go back 20 years and you went over a friend's or a family members house and you flipped through their photo album,

would you not see their favorite pictures? Yeah, same thing. How was that any different? Oh, it's different, because it's 10 billion times more pictures now. And wait. I mean, not necessarily. Some people only post like a handful of pictures

on their social media. Generally speaking. That's fine, yeah. It's generally people that, like, but generally speaking, we have pictures ourselves way more than they're going. Okay, so that part is different, right? So normally when you go through a photo album, it's like you and I'm really speaking, we have pictures ourselves way more than, okay, so that part is different, right?

So normally when you go through a photo album, it's like, you and your family and everything, that's not a bunch of selfies. I mean, so that would be fun if you have a sheet picture you throw it out. Yeah, you wouldn't put it in a photo album, you wouldn't frame it. So when you walk through someone's house and you look at all

the framed pictures and you look at all the photo albums, don't we do the same thing? Yeah, sure. We put all of our best looking photos when I was in Hawaii, when I did, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't? Yeah. So, I mean, it's the same thing. It's just not, it's now turbocharged times a million.

That's all. So now, you find somebody, you meet somebody, you look at their Instagram or the social media and you see a lot, whereas before you meet somebody, it's like you could access their album. The only problem I think is with people that compare themselves to, they're the ones looking, you're looking outside of yourself.

If you're just showing, like, hey, you know, there's a good picture of when we did this and this is a good picture of me and this outfit or whatever. That's great. It's, well, I don't know, I saw this and so I have to try and do my best to look this way. Yeah, no, I see the, to Sal's point and what you're kind of looted to right now too,

is it's been amplified. That's all right. It's totally been amplified. My point is there's a lot of people that make content that's like shitting on these people that make highlight reels of their life or that post all these pictures that have just a good times and it's like, you know, it's always those people that are like trying to promote the crying and the, you know, the bad pictures.

That's the fake, the fakeest thing ever. Well, that's the thing. And I just think that it's funny because I was, again, I was just kind of thinking about, I was like, wait a second, like any time I've ever went to a family members, what made me think about was that actually sharing one of my phone, like when family came over for Max, I'm sharing like the photo albums and I'm like, wait a second, like, anytime I've ever went to a family member's, what made me think about was that actually sharing one of my phone, like when my family came over for Max, I'm sharing like the photo albums. And I'm like, oh, wait, these are like all the best pictures. Of course. Yeah. And of course they are.

Like, no, I feel like I've shaved my back. Yeah. Well, it's going up. Yeah. Why would I put that in a photo album unless it's something that I really liked or something we did that was really cool. And it's like, I mean, I think, yeah. Well, it's all, like, so it's all stuff you want people to see about you. So even if it's an unflattering picture, what you're trying to show people is that, look, I really don't care, I'm authentic.

It's all that. But the fakes, I don't know why people still do this. I mean, they're all fake, right? But the fakes to me is the pictures of themselves crying. Or like really vulnerable. Like, what made you stop to pick up your phone and record yourself and they continue this very vulnerable thing like crying?

I don't know if you could do that. I couldn't. If I started crying right now, and when you pulled out your phone, I would stop. It wouldn't be able to. I was like, it's a weird time to do it. Or if I pull it out myself, how we I remember that so the last like Voner Wolf feel like I'm gonna cry feeling I had was when my my dog died when max when when when Mazdie

Oh better grab my phone and I actually avoided social for like two days Right because like my first instinct is not like oh here's an opportunity to show the world that I'm sad. You know what I'm saying, too? I like it from the memories I still have. I mean, too sad. You know, if anything, I could find in my friends, you guys knew the day of and stuff like that. Like, so I, you know, can soul with them and so that,

but how weird is that to think that getting on your social platform to consult your audience? Like, that's just, I don't know, it's weird. I don't know, weird thought though I had, I was just thinking of it with the photos because there's this like shaming people for putting up, you know, these perfect pictures of them and it's like, but wait, that's no different

than what you do in your house with photos and the, that's a valid point. Yeah, so you're literally not as good as they say. Literal picture of yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything we do today is not any different than stuff that we did. Right, it's just amplified. It just than stuff that we did. Right.

Years ago. It's just amplified. It's just amplified. That's all. Like, what's the story? Is it narcissists? Is that his name? Narcissists were...

Oh, yeah. He looked into the reflecting. To the pool later or something. Yeah, like because he's looking at his reflection so much, he just falls into it. Like, these are all stories that, you know, I guess, lessons that still apply to A. It's just times of bazillion. So another off topic, not fitness, really a thing, but I think Justin said this off air, we're all having a conversation, and then I've actually just recently seen a bunch

of articles sent, and then I saw, I think Jerry or somebody sent over something this morning on the piling up of the car, the electric cars. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I thought I brought that up. Yeah, if I understand this correctly, so China was trying to show how competitive they were a Tesla. Right, because didn't they do something originally Tesla then they had a big falling out

and then Tesla pulled themselves out and then China has. They're just propping up, they're propping up their companies by it. Yeah, and then they have another they have another company like Neo, and some other companies that are like competitive, electric car competitors over there. And they were trying to show how competitive they are.

They were, how many were being sold. Yeah. They're just skewing their numbers by, just buying them all and then put them in these car lots. And there's thousands of these cars just sitting there, unused and just rotting away now. Yeah, that's the pure waste. Just the trying to compete.

Hey, do you know that? That's like the housing market thing they did. Exactly. Okay, so this is so funny now, part of why I bring this up is because they're in the last decade, there's been like, especially the, you know, pro-socialist people that prop China up

is like, look at China's it's the economic powerhouse. Yeah, and the like, part of that success, you guys think is fake success. And there's an example right there. The ghost towns is another example of that. So this whole, this country that we've been propping up is like so economically successful in the last decade or so. I wonder, you have to ask yourself,

and this is the stuff that we see, and it's like so obvious, like how many other things is propped up just to put on a facade? You know, do you guys know that there's cases where with our military we do that, where we buy like certain cold war, era tanks or fighter, you know, like helicopters, whatever,

and we don't stop making them because of the work that they provide in the local towns and the lobbies. So they just build them and then just park them. And go and park them. Sometimes they cement them, right? Sometimes they film some things. I guess so. It's just, you're like,

I'm like, all this can be going to feed the kids and like, no, we're just gonna cement tanks. Yeah, we need more government. Yeah, we need cement tanks. Yeah, we need more government pool. Yeah Lower to stosh Levels. Yeah, definitely we have a shout out looks like someone wrote there. Who put that higher human? Oh higher human Yes, so that's Brandon he used to be Brandon PFS, but he's a really oh he changes handle awesome trainer that so we actually had him on our YouTube channel for a minute to golf content For you guys and he does stuff for MMA and I know he trains one of the sugar. Yeah, sugar Shane

One of the one of the famous fighters. Oh real quick speaking of performance. You've been giving your son The multivitamin on daily basis. Yeah, the the higher one. Yep. Have you so when did you start and have you noticed anything? Oh, man I think Katrina got when did they first send over stuff for us to try? Almost, we've probably year and a half ago or so. And so consistently? Yeah, I actually tried it the other day for the first time. Like, man, my son likes these.

This must be pretty good. They're not Flintstones. They don't taste stash. No, they're not sugar. No, they're not sugary like that. But he likes them. Yeah, I mean, and I think that maybe because we've been really good with that stuff that he, but he loves his, like he's so quick

to take his vitamins, like we've never had a hard time with him taking them. And it's got, it's got enough flavor to it that he likes it, but it definitely does not have that like, flint so thick, is that is just like, flint so you want to eat it, you know, like a, like a, like a tic tac or another small candy like that. Those gummy bear versions they have now.

Yeah. Yeah. It's literal candy and they sprinkling like a little bit in there. I know. No, so we've been consistent with it. We've been consistently given it to him for, I don't know how long. Katrina started it with, as soon as we got, as soon as they sent over the stuff and I think it was you who gave the green light on it as far as like it being a, a good multivitamin

for children. He's been on it as far as like it being a good multivitamin for children. And he's been on it forever. Awesome. Look, studies show if you start your day with fiber and protein, your blood sugar levels are more stable throughout the day. You tend to eat less, you feel better. And of course, high protein builds muscle. Well, this is a company called Creatures of Habit that makes a high protein oatmeal,

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So creatures of habits spelled with a K. .com-forge-sash-mind-pump. Use the code MP25 and get 25% off. All right, back to the show. First question is from Ibrahim 2001 from watching YouTube mind pump clips in squat university. I realized a wider stance with toes pointed outwards, substantially adds depth to my squat. How can I tell if I'm masking ankle or hip mobility issues or if it's just my anatomy? It's more likely that that the reason why you can go deeper

with a wide stance, toes pointed out, is because of ankle mobility. It's more common with something like that. So turning the feet out reduces the amount of ankle mobility you need and turning the knees out, getting a wider stance. Now, how would you know if it's an atom you're not? First off, it's not that common where somebody has anatomy in their hip joint where they

can't. Especially if it's like a really exaggerate, right? Maybe a slight, but the idea that someone's pelvis is going to have you cause you to put your feet this wide out is not likely. If it feels like your bones are locked in and it doesn't move anymore, then that might be more of a joint anatomy issue. But, you know, I know that people

have been making this argument and showing different hip anatomy. And I think it's a small percentage of people who have trouble squatting deep. Actually, I don't think I'm pretty sure that's the case. And what's the problem with that information is I think it's putting a lot of people who could work on mobility,

it's getting them to not work on mobility because now they're saying it's my nose. That's why I don't like that. I mean, another very easy way to test this is elevate, get like two 45 pound plates, put your heels on it, and then see if you could like sit your ass back on your calves.

And if you can easily do that just by lifting the heels. Drankle, way up. It's your ankle. That's a great way. Like put a get a more narrow stance, elevate your heel. Now can you squat down? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. If you can still get dips. That's how I used to just destroy that argument with someone. It's like, oh, I have to because my morphology and try, and I'm like, okay, then I get two plates. I take, make them do a narrow stance with their feet totally straight, and sit your butt on your calves,

and they'd sit all the way down. No problem, like, yeah. It's nice. Yes, not your hips. You know what's interesting about this is that squatting is a, for most of human history, is a resting position. Yeah. It's a resting position.

In other words, it's so, we're supposed to be able to do it so easily that you should be able to sit in it and rest. Constantly, yeah. Like just chill, like I could just sit here and chill forever. But because we sit in chairs, we never do that, obviously we lose that ability. But that just goes to show you like we have the capability,

we just don't have the strength and mobility to do so, so the goal should be work towards that. By the way, don't force yourself. Yeah. You should be able to do it with good mobility strength and relative comfort in the sense that you're not like struggling. So don't force yourself just because we said

you gotta go low, but work towards it. So there's nothing wrong. So this is while I was working on my ankle and hip mobility, my squat shoes and a little bit more of an open stance than I have today. But meanwhile, I was consistently addressing that into the point now where I can barefoot, narrow stance, straight forward toes.

And so it's not like if you're squatting with your stance a little out that also that's bad and you should stop doing that or stop squatting. It's like, no, it keeps squatting like that, but keep working on the ankle mobility. Keep trying to address that and you can make progress there. And then you'll know when you have because you're going to be able to squat with your feet probably straight forward. Yeah, I think it's really just addressing what the limitations are and

realizing if there is a way for you to squat within a different stance and if you can work towards that direction, you're not limited by your morphology and you realize it's an acheimability issue, there should be work done in that direction. It will help benefit your overall movement patterns and build a more resilient functional body. Next question is from MC Pearson. How does a supinated, pronated and neutral grip change or effect and exercise? Wow. Okay.

Depends on the really, right? When you're talking about the biceps, the the the way that you're you if you supinate. So if you turn your poem up, that's supinate or neutral where it's facing in or down, we're palms facing down, that's pronated. That all changes bicep activation. In fact, if you bend your arm and just turn your wrist,

you'll notice your bicep moving because it's involved in that function. So when it comes to pulling movements, like back exercises, and definitely curling movements, the pronating or the supinating or neutral, just changes activation of the bicep. So you could use more bicep, more brachialis, more brachial radialis.

These are all muscles that flex the elbow. When it comes to pressing movements, the grip, whether your hands, supinated or pronated, it doesn't matter, except for that influences where your elbow goes. So if I'm bench pressing and I supnate my hands, well, it's going to force my elbows to come in more. I can't, it's almost impossible for me to bench press with my elbows out and my hands supernated on straight bar. So that now starts to influence

my elbows and then elbow position influences whether or not I use more shoulder, more pack, yeah, yeah, all that stuff. So that's kind of, you know, I would say, how it breaks down, everything's like, how does it influence the muscles that turn the wrist, which is really just the biceps, or how does it, where's it put your elbow? I think the most important one to break down is, to me, is the bicep and the tricep

and that pronating, supinating, very much so influences your bicep exercises. It doesn't really influence your tricep exercise. So you see these knucklehead dudes that will do like reverse grip, skull crushers, or reverse grip, push downs, or the rope, the triangle, the straight, and like all these different things that are changing the wrist position for triceps, and your triceps are being activated the same. The exercise feels different because of how you have to have grip and one's more awkward than the other.

So just because something feels a little different doesn't mean that it's targeting or hitting that muscle different. But in regards to the sales point, the bicep exercises are different. The back ones seem to be different too, but it's not because of the pronating and the supining and the wrist,

but because of the position of the elbows and the elbows where they are at, dictate like how we're targeting and hitting the bar. Have you guys ever done a Super-Nay grip bench press? Uh-huh. Yeah. Reverse grip, that reverse grip, right? But it's a front del upper chest exercise.

Totally different pattern there. There's, I mean, one of the like best bench pressers was, Anthony Clark. Is that who he is? Yeah, he passed away. He was a name, Jesus Christ. He was a, he was, he's an almond-acted. Yes, he was, I think one of the first people

to bench press 700 pounds. Yeah, I remember he was, I remember that was a big deal when that happened because that, you know, he was bench pressing with a reverse switch. And there was controversy around it like that he was doing that. By the way, I'll tell you the reason why we don't have reverse script meant it's an exercise.

So it's got value. We don't put them in the programs because the risk of an extra reverse script, it's a lot more risky. You mean, you'll lose, if you lose the bar, it's on your face. Yeah. I've done that before because you try to like, unwrap and like, it's awkward.

Yeah. You want a spotter when you do that. Well, and not to mention, again, by you pronating or supinating your wrist in there, so because we do have close grip bench press in our exercises, and that has, you're not getting that much more of a different exercise or value by doing it.

No, it just changes the elbow. Yeah, 100%. But you can still do a close grip with your wrist in a pronated or neutral position. So there's safer ways to get the same kind of exercise or the same value from that exercise. There's a reason why we don't mess up. Overhead presses too. If you do an overhead press, there's some handles you can use that are neutral. And you'll just notice it just brings the elbows in a close to your side.

So there's, I guess, to put it plainly, there's more, there's too much emphasis being placed on supination and pronation on most exercises. There's very few exercises where it really makes a big difference. All the others, oftentimes, they're just trying to make a common exercise look different by changing, the grip position, but for most exercises, it doesn't make it. And I love that you're wrapping this up on that, because this goes back to why we highlight

the big five movements and hammering that home to everybody. It's like, you could literally go the rest of your life and only do those big five and nothing else and build the most incredible physique. And yet there's all kinds of controversy and TikTok videos and Instagram of all these custom cool exercises where you are doing weird angles

and in pronating and supinating your wrists in ways to target a certain area. And it's just like for 99.9% of the population, like it's so irrelevant. We're just creatures that respond to novelty. Yeah, it's just like for 99.9% of the population, like it's so irrelevant. We're just creatures that respond to novelty. Yeah, we're always looking for novel. And we want to think that it's like, oh, that was the missing thing. That's why my delts weren't building or, oh, that's why my chest isn't bigger.

It's like, I wasn't doing a reverse, supernated grip pinch press. It's like, you know what you want to know? It's funny. This just reminds me kind of connected. I remember years ago, a bodybuilder, buddy of mine told me, man, you feel your biceps more when you bend your wrist back and you do curls. Remember people saying that? So instead of holding the bar with a straight wrist,

bend them back with like, in this broken wrist, and you feel it more in your biceps. And I remember I did it. I was like, I feel more of a squeeze, like what's going on. Now, thankfully as a kid, I was very analytical, so I thought about like, what's it doing? What's happening, the muscle? And then I realized something.

All I'm doing with, when I move my wrist back with the barbell is here, it's easier to support because I'm opposing gravity differently here. I'm now the way is a little heavier because. Yeah, it's just down lower and the leverage has changed. So that's why I feel more of my bites are when I'm thinking like, oh, that's also, it's also resting on the joint versus you have it to actually activate your forearm to get less bad version.

Yes. Not a healthy. And it's not going to make the difference of your bicep size. You know, say like that's just a classic example of like things that don't matter. Next question is from Macy Nelson 7890. I am someone who isn't able to connect to their glute muscles very well when I squat. So would it be better to go lighter on the movement and work on mind to muscle connection

or just continue to go heavy? Will I still see gains if I drop the weight? It depends. If you wanna just lift heavy, just go heavy. By the way, it depends to on how bad your connection is. But if you just want to squat more weight, I mean, you can just focus on going heavier, so long as your form is pretty good. If you want to develop your glutes more, then you're better off doing the mind and muscle

connection. Now, there's, what's interesting about this argument or about this question is there's an argument that's made that says, if you have trouble connecting to a muscle, add enough weight and that muscle is going to activate. There was that argument used to exist in the fitness base. And I could see, I could see there's some truth in that. But when it comes to developing aesthetics, okay, fine, I'm activating my glutes more because I added so much weight, but I'm still going to develop my quads faster And I'm still going to have this imbalanced look

So if it's aesthetics Then I would go with my neuromusual connection if it's just weight Then I would you know like one lift weight then I would go weight unless the connection's so bad They're about by a mechanic suck in which case you're better off connecting that'll make you stronger Well, here's a here's a classic. I mean, there's always exceptions to the rule. I just got then saying about the big five and how important, the big five already, you can just do those for a short while, I've built this great physique.

Okay, then I get a client like this that comes across me. Here's an example of where I might drop this squat and put a bunch of emphasis on the hip thrust. Yeah. You know, and we made that argument the other day about the whole thing that came out with Brett Contreras that, okay, we know that squatting is officially better, you know, even though we knew that before, but we're, it's official now, it was a study, of course, it proves it, that squatting

is better for building your glutes. But if you have a hard time feeling in your butt and connecting to it and seeing the results of your butt growing from that, you're a client that I would put a lot of emphasis on the hip thrust. And we would maybe rarely squat. We would squat just to go back and measure, like, are we getting better connection? Are you starting to feel that

because we've trained the hip thrust now and I've got you really strong in the hip thrust and you're starting to work on that mind muscle connection to the glutes. Now can I take it over to the squat? And so I would use the squat as like a test now. I'd be like, okay, we're gonna do a lot of hip thrusts, we're gonna do a lot of things like lunges and stepups

and bulgurian split squats and other movements. And then I'm gonna revisit the squat to test like, hey, are you starting to feel it more in your glutes? If not, let's keep loading and pushing that hip thrust until I get to that place to where we can use both movements. Great advice. Next question is from 7MR46. In a recent episode, you guys mentioned

avoiding processed foods as in anything in a wrapper or package. Does this mean that while eating a whole food diet, we would need to avoid cheese? God forbid, I just said. No, no. It's not block crazy. No, it's heavily processed food. That's a general statement, like anything that's packaged. I mean, technically, everything's processed. It goes through a processing plant. Your meat comes in a package too. What we're referring to are foods with lots of different ingredients with these really long shelf life. So cheese, how many ingredients and cheese, one meat, one, you know, you could buy certain things that have like two or three ingredients, but it's things that are engineered and put together

with lots of different ingredients where they're designed to become hyper-palatable. So those are referred to as ultra-process foods, is what we're talking about. You know where this comes from, and this comes from the community that promotes all the, everything's a molecule, everything's chemical. Yes, everything's a chemical, everything's a molecule.

So then it becomes like, you know, everything is processed. Even your meat, you know, is processed. And again, just trying to confuse the audience. And the idea is that your goal should be to eat, it's close to whole foods and all natural as you possibly can. And what does that mean? As little processing as possible goes into it and as little ingredients goes into it as you possibly can.

Does that not mean that all of us at one point of the day have some sort of a process food or things like that? Yeah, I just don't want to make the bulk of my diet around those types of foods. If it gets introduced, I don't think I'm not trying to fear monger people and make them think they're going to die because they have processed foods. It's that it will better serve you if you build your majority of your nutrition plan around whole natural foods and even whole natural foods have a little bit of process natural limiters in there too for satiety and all kinds of other things and so it's like if you you specifically talk about cheese like it was let's talk about like cans of cheese right where they have like all these preservatives. Very different. Right, easy cheese versus like even American cheese to me

it just feels like plastic, you know, just, and that's the thing, there's a lot more ingredients added to kind of. Great example, you could look at American cheese like craft or whatever, look at the ingredients. That is heavily processed. Heavily processed. Or you could buy a block of cheddar.

Very, very simple. Just salt and in milk. Yeah, I'm glad he said that because cheese, if you can have dairy, by the way, cheese is, I mean, it's actually a very nutrient dense food. It's actually, it has been around for thousands of years. People have eaten it for a long time, but they're not all creating. I'm so glad he said that because I thought of that. And I, you know, you look at the back of the, the, the, the craft slice cheese,

which is it is like plastic. Yeah. Or like velvita. So you get paragraph long of just listing all these ingredients or like of the craft sliced cheese, which is it, it's like plastic. Or like velvita. So you get paragraph long of just listing all these ingredients or like genders. But what were those little snacks that you get to stick with the cheese and you spread it on the cracker?

That's not cheese. It's handy snack. Oh yeah. I think that the hell out of those, that's not cheese. That's not good. Look, if you like mine pump, head over to minepumpfree.com and check out all of our free fitness and health guides. You can download any or all of them and they cost nothing.

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