Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2124: Reasons Why You Can’t Lose Fat In Spite of Reducing Calories, Solutions for a Butt That Won’t Grow, Signs You Are Overtraining & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: July 22, 2023

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin coach four Pump Heads via Zoom. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Want to alleviate cravings? Take a HIGH-QUALITY probiotic! (1:25) Have we traded the wisdom and behavior of psychology for science? (6:57) Taking the leap with your faith. (9:42) Vasectomies and performance anxiety with sperm donation. (21:07) Digital snake oil. (30:31) The Elon vs Zuckerburg spectacle. (36:01) Wild animal corner with Mind Pump. (40:09) The ultimate CHEESEBURGER. (46:56) “I’ve seen you on Vuori ads.” (49:22) We want to believe. (52:07) Shout out to Trashcan Paul. (57:14) #ListenerLive question #1 - Any guidance on potential nerve damage from a past injury, and why I am experiencing muscle imbalances? (57:59) #ListenerLive question #2 - Is my lack of progress due primarily to overtraining, low testosterone, or both? (1:11:34) #ListenerLive question #3 - Why can’t I seem to lean out? (1:31:24) #ListenerLive question #4 – Can you offer advice to build my absent bum? (1:43:00) Related Links/Products Mentioned Ask a question to Mind Pump, live! Email: [e-mail] Visit Seed for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout for 30% off your first month’s supply of Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! July Promotion: MAPS Starter | MAPS Starter Bundle 50% off! **Code JULY50 at checkout** Mere Christianity – Book by C.S. Lewis Bored Ape Yacht Club Prices Crash to Two-Year Low, Down 88% Elon Musk FULL INTERVIEW with ZUBY (NEW) – YouTube Koalas Have Human-like Fingerprints | Live Science Burger King Has a Meatless Burger with Just 20 Slices of Cheese “Utsurobune”: A UFO Legend from Nineteenth-Century Japan Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP15 at checkout for 15% discount** Mind Pump #1142: Nine Signs You Are Overtraining Mind Pump #2095: How To Smash Through A Strength Plateau Mind Pump #1785: Why Most Women Fail At Developing Their Butt Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code MINDPUMP at checkout** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Bishop Robert Barron (@bishopbarron) Instagram Arthur Brooks (@arthurcbrooks) Instagram Elon Musk (@elonmusk) Twitter Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) Instagram Trashcan Paul (@trashcanpaul) Instagram Justin Brink DC (@dr.justinbrink) Instagram Jordan Shallow D.C (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram  

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Well, here's something you can do to help alleviate them, or at least blunt them, and this is proven by studies. It sounds weird, but it's true. Take a high quality probiotic. No joke. The microbes in your gut actually drive some of your cravings and healthy probiotics tend to reduce cravings for things like sugar and fast food and chemicals that produce those kind of short-term highs. So probiotics, it's one of your tools in the fight against cravings.

Get some better bacteria. I don't know that. Yeah. Have you, I mean, you're the most consistent with taking seed. Is that something that you notice as like a side effect? You know, I'm so disciplined, it doesn't matter. I don't even know what a craving is. I'm just kidding.

You know what I noticed with that, right? Have you ever noticed that? I, that's not like something that I've ever paid attention to. Although I've, I've, me just being, you paid attention to. Although I've just been completely transparent. I've never been very consistent with taking my probiotic like over. That it curbs your cravings? Yeah.

That's enough to motivate me though, to test that, to see, because I do have sugar cravings. And that's something that I've always had to work on. And that's interesting. I don't know if I paid attention to that, but I'm sure it plays a factor in there. Probiotics will lead you to that.

The studies on them are weird because 20 years ago you would have never guessed that they would be connected to all these different things. There are studies that show that probiotic administration reduces anxiety, depression, that it helps with fat loss, it helps with muscle growth, cognitive performance, sleep, skin, moods, and behaviors, and including cravings. I mean, this is why it's called the second brain, right? Yeah, you know what I call that? The connection, you guys know that, why they call it that.

So what's interesting is obviously the brain has the most serotonin receptors in the body. So receptors were serotonin attaches to. The second highest concentration of serotonin receptors is in the gut. The gut actually produces a majority serotonin. The heart is the third. How weird is that? And that's what the old wisdom, right? That's what trips me out. Which trips me out is nobody knew this thousands of years ago, but yet they referred to knowing things in the mind and the heart. Right, I feel it in my gut. My heart tells me to. Yeah, my heart's leading me there.

Yeah, it's so crazy how we totally ignore intuition now, even though there's some truth there. But anyway, yeah, probiotics can definitely help influence you in the positive. At the very least, if your gut health is not so great, you're just not gonna feel as good. And this has been proven in studies many, many times, that we tend to reach for foods that produce

the kind of that short term, I don't know, good feeling. So these are usually foods that are hyper-palatable, because it's not a long-term feeling you get for meeting super healthy. I'm just using short-term feeling for meeting superatable, cause it's not a long term feeling you get for meeting super healthy. I'm just kidding, short term feeling for meeting super healthy. It's more of a long term. The short term comes from like eating hyper palatable. While you're eating candy, you feel good in the moment.

And when you feel kind of crappy, those are the foods you tend to go towards. And so probiotics for sure improve gut health. Now seed, obviously the company we work with, by far the best one I've ever used. Hand down, not even close. All the feedback is the same. Always get that.

Not even close. There's a one that I've ever used. Even with the good probiotics I used in the past, after a while I have to switch out or go off or do something different. Seed has been consistent every single night. Well, get ready to start talking about them more. They're up for renewal and I think they want to pick up their cadence

because of how much great feedback they've gotten from our audience. Really? Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Yeah, I know that we're one of their best partners and I know they're coming up for resigning. I know it Katrina told me that. They want to pick up the cadence and they're already, I think, a two-time-a-month sponsor already.

Wow. Did you know probiotics also help prevent UTIs and stuff like that for when? Do you guys know that? Yeah. Natural way to help prevent, because of microbiome, obviously there's a microbiome. Yeah, I'm not a bad dancer when that really occurs, right?

Correct, and good bacteria, think of them as soldiers that prevent bad bacteria from taking over or help promoting balance. So when you get an infection like that, it's the imbalance of bad to get bacteria. I keep tripping out on how much, well obviously, like bacteria, you can kind of see how much it affects your behaviors and the way that you think and operate and also the excess inflammation factor in the brain. Yes. And so it's like between those two factors alone.

I mean, obviously we talk all about the exterior of things, like exercise, sleep, and all. But what's going on inside your body in terms of like addressing those two things would be here? They now have connections to the gut microbiome and multiple sclerosis, neurodegenerative diseases, autism. There's a distinct connection, they don't know exactly what's going on or how they could use that. But it's way more than we think. What's crazy when we were kids, they weren't really aware of this so much.

They used to prescribe antibiotics to us like it was candy. I remember I'd go in there. It hasn't been that long actually since they've like got away from that. Dude. Yeah, now the pediatrician now is a little bit more, like let's wait to sound and see what I'm, I remember when I was a kid, I just had to walk in. Dr. Proust, here you go, take this and you're done.

You get the sniffles, here you go. I used to think in a box all the time. Do you think you guys said something that made me think about? Do you think we have traded the wisdom of behavior and psychology for science? Totally. Like do you think we have traded the wisdom of behavior and psychology for science. Totally. Like, do you think we were actually smarter, hundreds of years ago, around psychology and

behavior, and we've traded that out because we're so much smarter in science. We traded information, knowledge, and wisdom. We've traded the two. So we had a lot more wisdom in the past, and more trust in our own intuition. Yeah. Today we have more knowledge of things. I think the combination of the two

is always where you're gonna find the best, right? Yeah, no, I agree. I think that we all agree on that that I think that instead of like, you know, it's not an either or it's like, it's like comparing the deadlift in the squad or like certain exercises, like why would you limit to just one? But to your point, like I think we did throw the baby out of the bath water.

So we did sort of like abandon a lot of our tuition and yeah, listening to some of that old wisdom of like, to really be in tune with those signals of your body. Yeah, and it's, you know, again, we're so arrogant, right? We look at our technology now. All we've did, by the way, all we did to bring us where we are today is we discovered a tool, and humans are, I mean, this is what we're known for.

This is what really separates us, right, from animals as we're exceptional tool makers, like exceptional, okay? And we figured out a tool essentially, which is science, the scientific method, which is extremely valuable. It's allowed us to invent and innovate at rates that are just incredible.

Obviously the way we live today versus just 200 years ago, like profound differences. But so that makes us look back in time and think that people who existed, you know, 500 years ago, 500 years ago, 1000 years ago, 2000, 5000 years ago were just stupid. But the truth is they didn't have the same knowledge and understanding necessarily of, let's say, the material world or how things worked from that, from the scientific standpoint.

But they observed things and commented and recorded on them for thousands of years. Thousands and thousands of years talking about human nature, human behavior. This is why, for example, the seven deadly sins are just as relevant today as they were 2,000 years ago. Even the world's vastly different. I think we discredit a lot of, you know, the ability that a lot of the ancients and all that had to master their crafts in certain directions. Because they were so focused, hyper-focused, and they could get like masses of people all on board on the same exact focus to accomplish, you know, a goal together versus now,

we're just so fragmented and we think we know everything. So along the lines of the seven deadly sins, it kind of falls in the spiritual wisdom realm. And I was going through our questions on our main IG and one of the most popular or most liked questions that we didn't answer, we probably wouldn't answer typically we look for the most popular health and fitness questions that are asked, that's how we determine like what we're gonna answer for the quas.

But somebody asked a personal question and I thought, you know, okay, this is not maybe a a quaw type of question, but curious. And I'm curious myself for somebody who was such a staunch atheist for so long, how, how did you move from that to, to believing in something that you believe so strongly to not be true. That's a question asked. And a lot of people wanted to hear how you responded to it. Oh, wow. Really?

That was popular. Yeah. Question. Well, okay. So I think if you're, because I was a, I was a legit atheist. And what I mean by that is, I thought about it like a well-read one. Like I thought about it. Yeah. Right?read one. Like I thought about it, right? Because a lot of people, you've said something before,

so I thought to cut you off, but that was actually like never really dawned on me. The truth behind this is that a lot of atheists are more well-read around spirituality and religion sometimes. Because they're trying to dismantle. Yes, because they are searching for all the holes. And so there's a lot of times they know more than the person

who's trying to defend it. Listen, I'll make this argument that true atheism, meaning that the curiosity to study and learn and discover the nature of the world and break things down, like you're really interested because there's people who just don't think about it. That's different. People don't think about it.

That person is, you know, they're just kind of, I guess, floating in whatever, right? And they're not really anywhere. I feel like you fall more agnostic when you're like that. Yeah, wouldn't you say that? Like I think like a true atheist to your point is like, you're in search to prove it wrong. Yeah, you're searching is what it is. I think in atheists is closer to becoming a believer

than the typical person doesn't think about anything because that's my experience. So I was searching. I was constantly trying to search and learn because just because, you know, I, okay, fine, I'm in atheists. I don't think God exists. Well, I still am curious on the nature of things and what's going on. So I was always searching. I was always looking, meaning, and that also kind of made me open. So that's that was the starting point. I moved away from that when the more that I searched,

the more mysterious things seemed to be. And then I remember, I had a conversation by that. You talking about like things like quantum physics. Kind of. Or like as the deeper you went, you realized like, oh, we actually don't have a definitive answer for this. Or for this. Kind of.

I had a conversation with a friend of mine, and he said, well, don't you feel like you're, because I said something like, oh, religious people are so arrogant. He said, what do you mean? So, they're telling me they know that God exists and that he's real. And so, aren't you kind of the same thing?

I said, what do you mean? You're telling me you know for sure that God doesn't exist. I'm like, well, the burden of proof is on the person claim and he goes, okay, but still, don't you feel like you might be like, and I remember I thought about that a lot. Oh, shit, like, I don't know everything. And I guess I am, that doesn't mean I think there is a God, but I guess I am being a little arrogant.

So kind of move me away from like this definitive, like for sure there's nothing to like, well, I don't know. Yeah. Type of deal. And then the next thing that kind of opened my, I guess, my mind to a little bit was the wisdom that was in spiritual practices. And the first thing that so the first thing that had me peer into that was I, this is when I was, I learned about fasting and its potential behavioral benefits. Because back then for listeners, I mean, you know, we've all been in fitness

for two and a half decades. Fasting or going without food for more than two or three hours a bit no-no in our space years ago. It's like, oh, you can't do that. You're gonna lose muscle, whatever's all bullshit, but this is what we thought. And I remember looking into fasting and its potential behavioral benefits, trying it and realizing those benefits for someone like me who was so tied to food every two or three hours. And then I read about

fasting. I'm like, oh my god, this is a practice that's been done. I'm like pretty much every spiritual practice. And the reason why they practice it is for the behavioral benefits that I noticed. I'm like, what are what else is in the spiritual practice? I mean, they lasted for thousands of years. They passed the evolution of ideas, meaning an idea has to, if it lasts for thousands of years, it's because it stands a test of time. Otherwise, it ain't gonna last. Eventually, it's not gonna work.

So I said, I wonder what other wisdoms are in there. And so then I kind of opened my mind a little bit to just the wisdom aspect of it. Like, okay, these exist for thousands of years. There's got to be some spiritual truth or some wisdom. So I kind of opened up a little more. Then we met Bishop Baron and his team.

And I felt, and this is just the best I could describe, I just felt moved and kind of connected. And I remember I call, I contacted Arthur Brooks at the time. And I said, this is kind of weird, but I'm having a tough time making the leap. And he goes, well, that's where the faith comes in. At some point, you have to decide whether you have the faith in him.

Yeah, and I said, I feel really pulled to it. And he goes, well, once he's after, he's after you. And all kinds of weird stuff kept happening. And I mean, I just, I took the leap. And then from there, more things things opened up and I felt a different sense of calm. But that leap is always a leap. There's always going to be a leap.

I recommend Atheus, or whatever, if you're curious, CS Lewis has mere Christianity, Christianity is a phenomenal book. He's very analytical and he speaks to the intellect. So if that's the kind of thinker you are, it'll, at the very least it'll get you thinking. It's a really, really good read. So. Yeah, not.

I mean, it's interesting. I always love hearing how people kind of try to make sense and figure out the bigger questions and seek that out. Because I came from the opposite experience of that, which was more like, I never lost my faith, but at the same time was like, getting tested all the time by atheists,

and then like, I was trying to like, see if I could arm myself with better material and like ask deeper questions and philosophical questions, and I was just wasn't getting that from my preachers and from, you know, church in itself, and so I had to go a little bit further and get a little more academic with some of that material and stuff. And it came across science of God, which was a pretty decent book

in terms of trying to come up with some answers to some of these hard questions in terms of like, if you were to put some kind of science behind a universal clock Like they made some bits of references of how to explain it. Wasn't perfect and like, but it still like gets you in that thought process of like, we don't really know everything scientifically and we have some good thoughts, but you know, there's just so much there that is it's pretty much impossible.

You do have to take a leap. Yeah, and I think it's a huge just service to us as humans to deduce everything down to scientific explanations and chemicals like, you'll find people who are maybe non-believers or whatever, and then they'll have an experience like a near death experience, or their child is born, or they fall in love.

And all of a sudden they open up to possibility that they're maybe a god, and then you got people on experience, like a near death experience, or their child is born, or they fall in love. And all of a sudden, they open up to possibility that they're maybe a god. And then you got people on the other end who're like, oh, that's just serotonin, endopomene, and chemicals. Like, I think that that is really, really, it's doing us a disservice to boil everything down to like, oh, it's chemicals, it's a trick, it's an illusion type of deal.

I mean, I don't know, you know, you might think I'm wrong, but believing that you know loving your child as a bunch of just chemical tricks in your brain Doesn't that kind of like I mean aren't you taking the experience and Really, you know kind of bringing it down to something that it's not. I mean, how can you say that right when you experience that like Does that really explain it? I don't think so. So, I don't know. So it's interesting, but I do love the discussions.

And in my opinion, atheists are open for discussion. They want to talk about this kind of stuff. I also love those series with Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and then they would really just try to like hash it out. I'm like, I just wish more people would, obviously we're so busy and consumed with our day-to-day, survival and bills and all these kinds of things. It's like, you know, philosophy is a lost thing.

Like we used to sit and just ponder and ask bigger questions. It's always fun for me if people actually take the time to do that. Yeah, and look at the world, man, we got more shit than ever. We've got more food and shelter and whatever. And people are like, they're more anxious and not happy. I mean, there's other answers out there. I don't think it's more stuff. I don't think it's like buying more shit or

more drugs, you know, we've kind of hit that tipping point, I think. We've got all the stuff. We've got all the knowledge. We're really close, man. We really are. I think in our lifetime, we'll see everybody will be able to pretty much have what they want. You know, you're going to be hooked up with a lot of materialistic things, right? Yeah. Whether that's in a virtual world that feels real or actually be able to 3D print it. I don't know exactly what that will look like, but I don't think we're far off from getting everything you could imagine. I mean, I bet you if you would ask somebody 300 years ago to look at somebody's life who's poor, right? Or like in a lower middle class,

all the things they had is that more than they could either, could even have fathomed back then, of things like they have all the things and some. So yeah, I don't think we're far from- I remember my dad, my dad would have these conversations with me a lot, because he was poor and Sicily. Really poor, right? I never asked you, where does your family fall

on that, like your parents, are they, are they, or they, are they? So are they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But you guys didn't have to, you guys, we were holiday churchgoers, like Eastern Christmas, we didn't go every Sunday.

I would say, if you ask them, they'll say that they, you know, that they're religious and they believe and they pray. But it wasn't like a big thing in my household growing up. Was it talked about or practiced or? No, maybe more so, definitely more so my mom, my grandma, very devout, very, like she'll do the rosary, you know, like you're having a baby, she'll do the rosary while you're in labor and, you know, if you're trying to get a job or something, she does that stuff,

so it's, it's kind of cool. But I remember my dad telling me, you know, because you grew up very poor. And when I say poor by, you know, different standards than we consider poor. Like people now are like, oh, you don't have, you know, a car like, you know, he didn't have like a bathroom. Like they were really poor when he was really young. And he he told me goes, you know, it's weird, he goes, I was happy though. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, well, we were all together. And I was with my family.

And I don't remember people being too depressed or anxious. And he goes, and in here, we got all these big houses. And I got this house. And, you know, I come home from work. And you guys say, hide in me and then you go in your rooms. I don't see you guys anymore. And he goes, I was a kid, we didn't have rooms. So we all just did a kid all the time on top of each other. But we were having you used to explain this to me. Like,

you guys have all this stuff and he goes, I didn't have anything. He'd tell me the toys he played with when he was a kid. I thought he was bullshit in me. You know, he's like, I got, he goes, I got a tire from the, from the garbage from the dump once. And then that was my toy for like years, you know, I thought he was making it up. He's like, but it was so fun. He's like, you got all these video games, you guys are bored all the time. So I mean, it's, uh, I don't know, it up. He's like, but it was so fun. He's like, you got all these video games, you guys are bored all the time, you know? So I mean, it's, I don't know, it's interesting stuff. So along those lines of, you know, kind of along those lines, I think I'm gonna be,

I know Justin, you had signed up to get a Visek to me at some point. Whoa. Yeah, I'm gonna go, I gotta go sign up. I just, yeah, cuz I know having to go forward. Okay, so the first step is making the appointment, right? Yeah. The second step is confirming the appointment.

The third step is actually showing up. I mean, I didn't do. Yeah, so. I'm a little reluctant. Did I ever tell you guys this? I might not have told you guys this or not, but I remember reading this. This was years ago.

Maybe it was the first time I ever heard Sal say he was gonna do this that made me think of this. There's like a popular time to do that, that men do this. And it's during the March Madness week. Really? Yeah, yeah. That's brilliant. Cause you're gonna watch TV and yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So you're gonna be late, you're gonna be laid up for several days. Anyway, it's in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona.

Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, in Sedona. Yeah do it, that's how I would do it. Well, you definitely need a buddy. Yeah. You need somebody to be in the trenches with you, cause for that point, you wanna hang out, cause you're just gonna be the,

your wife's not gonna care about your ball problems. Are you, what prevent you from going? Is it just like the oh shit, they're gonna cut up on my, you know. Shit. Unfortunately, I started to ask questions to some of my friends who had the procedure done

and then they're all like kind of positive about it, but then they would mention their brother who had it, who still got his wife pregnant and then somebody else they knew that actually like had to reverse it and like all these and like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and what's the statistics on that? And that sort of got me a little bit like, I'm going to look a little further into this. Because I'm like, if you're going to go through all that, you want to happen what you came in there to do. Like it's just like, but there's a potential that it's not going to work out.

Yeah, it's also what if the world needs you? Yeah, we're populating lots. If you're like, you have to musk and you have to live. We don't want to sit in this. We have so many kids. We have so many kids. We have so many kids. We have so many kids.

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and it's like done and she's like, oh yeah, you'll just go do that. I'm like, no. So I respond. No, no. She's like, why? It's not a big deal. It's like, okay, for you, maybe.

Reminds me of the same thing when they told me to go do the whole jerking off in the bathroom. Like, everyone just downplays like it's no big deal. Oh, to get you sperm check. That's it. To me, that is such a weird thing. It's so funny how other people just be like, you're almost done in there. Itplays, like it's no big deal. Oh, to get you sperm check. To me, that is such a weird thing, and it's so funny how other people just be like, you're almost done in there.

It's so, it's no big deal. I know, like, how do you do, so I get it, that's the thing, like how do you do that when everybody knows that's what you're doing? Whether you go in the bathroom, you got nurses, your wife, doctors, wait. You know, it turned into like a big old thing

right between Katrina and the doctors, they were all talking about my, like she's like, hey, my husband just doesn't really want to come in here and do this. And she's like, hey, my husband just doesn't really wanna come in here and do this and she's like, is there something wrong with the room? We just remodeled it and did this. It's not the fucking room.

Yeah, it's like, no, I don't need any more magazines and videos. Round up the entire staff and have them applause when I come out of the door. But they, you know what, it just highlights so that like, people think that we're like men are just like these jerk off machines

Just like we're running around jerking off on everything all Just yeah, immediately just want to have sex with everything jerk off on everything Why is it a big deal with throw you some nudie magazines and give you a dark room you should be fine I mean maybe some dinner. Oh, maybe when I was 17, you know what I'm saying? Maybe when I like the wind blew and I got excited, you know what I'm saying? But it's a little different now. I don't know, I feel like I'd be like,

I'd have to make a deal and be like, can I sneak in so nobody knows and I'll let you guys know when I'm done. Too much pressure. I told you what we ended up doing the second time was I did home and then drove it. You had to be within 30 minutes. So that's part of why they want you to come in and do that.

And I'm like, whatever, I'll drive then. Like, and even that was awkward. The fact that I'm on the clock, you know, just like, you know, it's like, you know, go get the plastic. Like, we're about to fool around. Right? Like go get the plastic thing. It's like, okay, we got, we live 15 minutes from the hospital.

So it's like, dude, even that was like lame. At least it was with my wife at my house, so it was a little bit better, but it still is just not, it's, I don't know. You have to do it yourself, was your wife allowed to do it for you? No, you have to do it yourself. You have to do it yourself.

You can't use any lotions or anything like that too. Like you can't, you know, you don't want it to get, yeah, I mean, why not include somebody? They can't, like she can't do anything orally to you, can't do anything like that. So there's like rules and there's like, I gotta do it. And so it's like rules and there's like I got to do it And so it's like I don't know. It was lame. I was I was so clinical

I always think of like a like a skit. We're like you're walking in you know what you drop it. Oh, Just just kill me. Have you guys seen I've you guys ever seen any of these room? You guys never never know here's experience. No, my yeah, no I just envisioned almost like one of those like weird like you know on New York days to have these like Like like We're like you'd be pays like money and then all of a sudden it open up and be somebody like stripping free Oh, yeah, those real like a little cute. I remember on a Madonna video. What's it called? There's like a old 80s video when she's in that okay

In other countries they still have things like that, don't they? I don't know. So it's even more awkward than that because there's like a whole process and procedure, right? You walk, just like the doctors of you, walk up to the normal thing, you fill out, you sign up. And then I'm here to jerk off. Yeah, that's literally what it is.

It's like, yeah, I'm here to do that, right? I'm here to do that, right? And everybody knows, everybody there now knows what you're doing, you know what I'm saying? Hand you the little cup and stuff, and then then they tell you and then when you go in there It's not done like she comes in and then it's like you have to here They have like a red tape on the for you you stand behind this line and when you're when you're done You you fill out these things you push this button make sure you wash your hands here. You clean up here

You do like there's like all this stuff. It's not Guys before you've done this problem I'm not the mood like I didn't like all this stuff. It's not just like thousands of guys before you've done this problem. I have not in the mood. I didn't want to hear that. I am not in the mood anymore. No, man, it was like for sure awful. And you know, and I thought maybe... You feel ashamed when you left.

You know, I feel like... You guys all know what happened. I feel like underperform. That's what I feel like. Because I'm there to give a bunch of sperm, right? That's what I'm there for.'s what I feel like because I'm there to give a bunch of sperm right? That's what I'm there for and so I feel like I Feel like I had on the cup and I'm like listen, I could do a lot better than that I didn't find it half this that's it. I feel like yeah, yeah

Really put me on you look you look at it. You're like that's it. You know what I'm saying like Wave Way better at home, dude, wait better at home. I'm gonna get to the nursery. Yeah, I had to the nursery, just like, you know, hey, you know, who's tough, I'm just like, so listen. It's all about the ponzu, okay? It's like, it's like a tide positive.

Wait, that one's in there. It's like, it's like a tide positive. Wait, that one's in there. It's like, it's like, it's like a tide positive. Wait, that one's in there. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like a tide positive. Wait, that one's in there. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's Anyway, sorry, sorry, obviously, we took a left on that conversation, but it reminded that people just expect that men. It's the room like a couch. Is it nice?

It's about half this size. No, they have like a leather lazy boy chair in there, you know, and it has like a, like a dog pee thing on there that you can sit so you can put your naked ass cheeks on it. So with that, there's a TV in front and it's got mood lighting in it. And like, I mean, the room is not nice, but it's like Justin said, it's like you 100% know, the last person in here was jerking off. And he was sitting on that thing too. Like it's just, I don't know, kills it for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I didn't even think about that, but it put myself in that mental space. Yeah, that wouldn't work out so well. I mean, and everybody thinks I'm like I'm weird.

And I think the same thing, this is how I feel about the vasectomy thing when people say that I'm like, no, I don't know, and I have to explain myself. What do they cut exactly? It's no big deal. It's in the bunch area, right? Is that what they cut you?

Like under the bunch? I think so, right? It's not the top, like, it's it. Or is it the top? I don't know, Doug, look it up. But don't pull it pictures, please. Yeah,. I think so, right? It's not at the top, like, it's it. Or is it at the top? I don't know, Doug, look it up. But don't pull it pictures, please. Yeah, for them already. Exactly.

See, then this is going to delay your appointment. Well, you know, and Jessica, she's now encouraging it. Got an Andrew, where's that? Yeah, I mean, you said you don't want to see a picture? No. Just tell me where. Yeah, I'm describing. There's a tube that comes from the testicles up through, you know, to the piece.

So they cut under the bowl. Call the doctor's fast reference friends and that gets snipped. Did you do this at all? Are you still planning on having more kids? I'm not doing it. Huh? I'm not planning on having more kids, but I'm also not planning on cutting it.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so you're like us, though. See, now I right now have Jessica now encouraging me, and I know she's got that, you know, at some point she'll let listen. You either do that or now it's like, fuck, let me do now. I guess.

Yeah. So I got to contact the doc and let him out. Well if you actually go through it, I'll be there by your side, dude. Sure, you hold my hand the whole time. You can hold out for a little longer. We'll be SNIP brothers, dude. We'll be SNIP brothers. Get it to you for what?

Yeah. You never just counted. I bring my friend, you'll get a deal. That's hilarious. I had to post the picture. Oh, to really encourage you. I'm encouraging you to do this. It's a drawing. That's fine. That's no big deal. She's too big. You know, the flaccid penis drawing is always so sad.

Anyway, I could have tried to find your wrecked one. Now, now we don't need that. You know what else is. He's already got the tab open. Just look under the tab, Doug. We'll pull it right up. You know what else is sad is those board apes that everybody bought about.

Bro, did you see the price drop? Wow. Kate, remind us all about the controversy with those in the beginning because I'm like, well, so I don't even know with those in the beginning, because I'm like, well, so I don't even know what happened with that, right? I mean, remember we went down the rabbit hole video that basically it's a huge like racist prank.

Yeah, I'm saying. Oh, there was that, yeah. But it was a whole NFT thing and blah, blah, blah, blah, celebrity's bottom. Well, for example, there's one that Justin Bieber owned. I think it was worth almost $2 million. Right now it'll sell for 50,000. For just some grand.

$50,000. That's how much. That's by the way, what they think. I bet if you try to sell it, it'll be for less. Yeah, who's gonna buy it? Like that'd be interesting to see. Like anybody. How crazy is how inflated we can make the price

of something just through hysteria? Yeah. You know, do you remember all the NFT talk? It's like no talk about it at all anymore. None. I haven't heard, I haven't seen, oh here it is right there. 88% from its peak.

Ha ha. Wow, dude. Hey, shame on you. Shame on you. You're all not at first place though. You know what I'm saying? Shame on you like to think that something like that is gonna be that amazing and worth that much more.

You're selling an idea and a vision of an imaginary thing. So it's like, it's not even tangible. That's a really tough set home. I get it just highlights too. How much, oh god, I'm a sheep we are, bro. I'm just saying, the hype train was like, so everybody was so hyped up. And you know what feeds that is that there's people that we're getting in and making money for you.

Because if you catch it on the way up with the hype. Yeah, yeah. So if you were one of the way up or the high. Yeah, yeah. So if you're one of the early adopters and you bought NFTs early, then you turn right around and sold it six months later. You made, and so, so you do that, and then you tell everybody how much money you made and you hype it up to them, and then they're still early enough that they go do it.

And it's just like it compounds, and then sooner or later it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna. You know, this is just, digital snake oil. It just goes, hey, it just goes to show you by, by, gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna, you know, this is just, digital snake oil. It just goes, hey, it just goes to show you, by, by historically, by the way, historically, there have been many markets

that have done this and crashed. So this is, this is nothing new. I think that the challenges we always think is different this time. Oh, no, no, this is, what do you mean? This is, these are electronic. This is totally different. No, it follows the same.

I brought this up before. I think it was the tulip, I wanna say the tulip inflation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where at one point, they were so valued that the prices skyrocketed and then it crashed once people were like, wait, why wait a minute? This is tulips. Yeah, they just keep it. Why are we spending so much money? I do, I do see that, you know, Bitcoin is still hanging on though. Like it's, it's, Bitcoin has some utility though, right? But it ain't, it's not near. Well, I still stand by what I said originally, right? I mean, I think that the most utility is the black market.

I mean, that's where it's, and there's, and guess what, the black market is big enough, is big enough to prop that sucker up to where it's at right now. Like, and maybe we do move to these coins at one point, but the idea that the government's not gonna get their hands in the universal currency that we're all going to use. They'll have their own version of on.

100%. No, they have the guns. Therefore, they'll make the rules. They've already talked about it. I think the Fed already said that they have a digital currency that they're going to use. So what does that do to Bitcoin when that happens? I mean, that's just going to plummet it because then it's going to be purely just for black market use, right?

Unless you guys heard the theory that it was the intelligence agencies that created in the first place. Bitcoin in the first place. And to over time be able to track what's happening kind of behind the scenes. So much security. Did you know that that, you know, part of Elon's strategy of Twitter, what that is, like, you know, to eventually making it like an all-in-one social platform? Yeah.

Where you can exchange currency and everything on it. Like that's the, that's the future of that, like in the next year or two. Hit the hit. I heard him say on the interview with Zubi that that was like the deciding factor for Twitter was that he had already planned to build this platform that blends like, you know, the VINMO social aspect all together. Like China has one, right? I don't know, I forget what China's platform,

you know what it is Doug, the one that actually you can basically, what? Pretty sure it's called WeChat. WeChat, we've been chatting. Yeah, so he already had that vision to build that anyways, and acquiring Twitter would accelerate that by like three to four years.

And so that's kind of how he looked at that. Like I know a lot of people are like, oh, you know, he's gonna try and bring it back and it's gonna be this. And so that's kind of how he looked at that. Like I know a lot of people are like, oh, you know, he's gonna try and bring it back and it's gonna be this. And now everybody's talking about how threads is competing with Twitter. And it's like, I don't think any of that matters to him. I think it's like, it's already got a built-in audience.

Yeah. And all he had to do was come in and make it towards not losing money, by which it was. Yeah, the other, I mean, again, I've heard people speculate on his motivations behind it. Another one was all of the data from everybody's tweets and like the way they think and all that

and the human element there that you could use that data to then use for his neural link or the open AI. And so that would help to kind of feed. I mean, I would not bet against him. He's the most successful entrepreneur of all time. Period. I mean, nobody comes close. He's developed, he's built,

how many billion dollar companies? Four. More than that I think. Five. Crazy. Just doing one alone puts you in history, right? And he did, he's done more than anybody else that innovated in the guy.

He involved in gangbusters. Yeah, so I would not vote against him in the decisions he makes. A lot of times it sounded crazy. Remember when Tesla sounded crazy? Yeah. You know, he's gonna make a new car in one of the hardest markets

and not go through dealerships. He created a new market. And make it electric and have to innovate and create all these platforms just so that it could work. Yeah. So I wouldn't be speaking of Elon, did you see, you were the one that showed

a Zuck training? Oh yeah,, yeah. With, uh, what's the audience on the, and I forget who I'll see his training with right now. You know, the interesting part about what I thought was funny about that clip was we literally just got off air doing our, our live callers. And you were sharing with someone who's doing jiu jitsu up here about, cause he's near the coast, right? He's in Santa Cruz about surfing. And being told that surfing is like a great, like, you know, sport or skill to do that has carry over into Jiu-Jitsu.

And you were asking if there was any truth to that. Like literally, I open up my Instagram like five minutes after that and a video of Zuck with Adisana and a couple of the other M.A. guys. And he's wake surfing. I thought, oh, it's kind of funny. But dude, Zuck looks, he looks fit. Bro, he looks fit.

He looks athletic. Like he looks good right now. I mean, and he's a lot smaller than Elon. So if that fight really goes down, Elon better hope that he's not just counting on being 30 pounds heavier to win this fight. Cause he does, Zuck looks like he's actually trying. He does.

The thing about Zuck is he looks like a dork, you know, like, if you watch him move and do this stuff, you realize he's the different. And don't be fooled in that being like the chip that he'll probably have on his shoulder or motivate him. Right, is that he's known as the, like this, you know, so I love the internet is the best sometimes. Like that video of him surfing, like the like one of the number one comments.

That's underneath it says, this reminds me of when, when the, they showed the robots could jump, you know, ever when, what was that big robot company that the Boston Dynamics? Yeah, Boston Dynamics showed all the, the jumping robots everybody lost their mind. Oh my God, look at the robots can jump now. My favorite video of Zuckerberg and I by the way I empathize with him. I'm making fun of him but if I were sitting in there, I'd probably be him drinking water. Way more awkward. He was in Congress. He's a kid. Everybody forgets how young the deal is. Yeah, it's too handed like

really. He's like sweating. Yes, it's like. He's so nervous. I forgot how to drink water. Yeah, he's too handed like they're really good. He's like sweating. You know, he's like, he's so nervous. He's like, forgot a drink water. Oh, yeah. This is what I must do to drink. And I'm like, and people made fun of him. I'm like, imagine if you were sitting there and Congress was grilling you at his age. Oh, I know. I know. He's still, how young is he, you know, he's early 30s. 39. Oh, he's 39. He's he's close to our age. I thought he was younger. Oh, much younger than us. I don't know. You know what I mean? I mean, for what he does, he's young.

Oh man. Yeah, he's been. So that post, you showed that you have seen, like, who was that post of that like poster of like that they're trying to move that into the real form. I don't think it's a real poster. Yeah, I couldn't be. What did you see? Chale Sownin.

Oh, Chale Sownin. Posted a poster with like, you know, Zuck and Elon on it. It made it. Okay. Yeah. Made it look like it was like they're going to incorporate it as like part of a UFC event. Oh, I saw that one. They in talks with Dana White though. I think he said something. I think I mean, it'd be hilarious. Like that, that would be that would blow up. Like people would people would I mean the way things are going with all these Celebrity boxy matches and things like that like it's not weird to me at all I mean it's you know what Jake Jake Paul hasn't jumped all over you know what though See this is a lot of people

Yeah, so people don't know this like when you watch two people fight who don't know how to fight. Oh god It's not it's not fun to watch two people fight who don't know how to fight. Oh, God. It's not fun to watch. No, not fun to watch. It looks, and then you start to feel bad. It's like cringed. Yeah, it's just not great.

So like, you have C fans who know what fighting looks like. And I can see two guys just, remember those, what were those matches that they used to do or they used to do that? Yeah, competition. Yes, those were like so painful. The one for everyone. Every once in a while you got a guy, but I guarantee it was

somebody who had some sort of a background and he would always whoop the shit out of the other guy. You know what I'm saying? Cause he had some sort of training. Where did butter being come from? That's right. Yeah, right? I feel like he went through that.

And it was like, whoa. There's always like the guy who has like, who can't throw hands that has some sort of, whether he got it from street fighting or he actually, he actually trained a little bit that would go in there and just dominate fools because most of them were just regular ass dudes that were trying to box. I know. I know. Anyway, so I just read something that's really interesting. So there's an animal. There's one

animal. Don't look at the notes because you guys will see the answer. There's one animal that has confused like crime scene specialists before. In other words, they'll go in, they'll check the crime scene, find fingerprints, and they get baffled. And it was the culprit was an animal. Okay. And I'll give you a hint. Their fingerprints of this animal

closely resemble humans to the point where it's hard to tell unless you're like really an expert. What? Chimps? Kuala. Kuala has fingerprints. I actually was gonna say a raccoon. Yeah, Kuala, okay. to the point where it's hard to tell unless you're like really an expert. What? Champs? Kuala. Kuala has fingerprints. I actually was going to say a raccoon. Yeah, Kuala, okay.

Kuala. Kuala. Kuala has fingerprints? Yeah, if you look at Kuala fingerprints to human fingerprints, they're so similar. And this is actually happening in crime scenes because they have claws. Right. And it's just, you know, this is something we've ever been talking about, like what animals were closest like. So this stuff always comes out and it's like we're so close to this.

I told you guys about the pig a digestive system. And it's just like it's so funny when they're skinned they use all the time, you know, back to our science conversation earlier about how like ever since science is like we try and attach like, oh, worse, just like these apes. This is the ones were because we do this one thing in common. And it's like, yeah, but then look at that. Nothing like this. On the left is a koala on the right is a human. Oh, worse, just like these apes. This is the ones where we do this one thing in common. And it's like, yeah, but then look at that. Nothing like this. On the left is a koala, on the right is a human.

Oh, wow. Right? Is that left and right right there? That's correct. Yeah, look at that. You can't tell. Unless you're trained, you know, and it's so it's actually happened with crime scenes where there

was a real case where they went in and they're like, uh, the koala killer. Yeah. I'm going to get a koala as a pet, dude. That's a good insurance. I heard their vicious. I heard their vicious and they're like the qualiquilers. Yeah. I'm gonna get a qual as a pet, dude. That's a good insurance. I heard they're vicious. Oh.

I heard they're vicious and they have high rates of chlamydia. Chlamydia, that's true. Yeah, a chlamydia. Yeah, chlamydia. So don't have a super protectance. It's, that's the only way we're, we're on it with a chlamydia. It's only legal in some states. Yeah, it's true.

But yeah. I, you, I, you probably can't own one of those here, right? I mean, the California has all kinds of laws. We're coming with a quality legal in some states I you probably can't own one of those here right I mean California has all kinds of laws. I bet you can't in Texas. Don't they own them people on like lions and shit over there Is that right to their home many random exotic animals in Texas? Yeah, remember we watched the Tiger King Didn't he was he was he was he was I think those Texas? Somewhere in a South Florida. I think it was Florida. I was it. Let me check. Yeah, I think I think it moved actually to like Oklahoma or something. Yeah, because I believe Texas has the largest place of tigers in the United States. Yeah, high in captivity for sure. Now Mike Tyson owned Tigers. He did. Where did he in California? No, he was in Nevada. He wasn't in Vegas. Yeah, but he I think he got him

from a Tiger. Tiger King was Oklahoma, but it's all internet. He didn't even the internet. Boom. But no, no, what I mean is how do you like you have to go like just get a permit? Like how do you get a tiger? Yeah, there's permits for it. So there's I think I have a nice shirt before when I look at Tiger. No, when I Tiger, I look in it. I have to do that his I had a condo when I was looking at doing I Was I looked for no it was not a tiger I was looking at like small like Cats like you know Bob cats and stuff like the circle really called circle Is that the name of it?

I forget can cat that's big and cool again Yeah, and it's it was Nevada that had a lot of the like looser laws and you still have to get a permit right for it. Like so you can go get it. And the permit basically all they look for is there's a certain amount of space that you have to have for like the cage or what about that. So like I couldn't I've obviously quickly learned that having a condil I couldn't have any sort of crazy wild animal sitting there. So it's goldfish. Yeah. It's a bunch of coi fishes, but it's crazy. You got a shark, you know, a shark for a while. Dude, hold on. That's what they check. You got enough space. They don't check to see if you're crazy or whatever. Well, I don't know the whole entire thing.

I do remember, though, I looked up on the people that owned them. Yeah, they are crazy. I looked up, you know, and I remember the perk, like looking at that, you have to have a permit. And if I recall, the main thing was just the space that you needed to have. I don't know, maybe Doug can fact check me or whatever, but, and I do know that Nevada has like some of the loosest laws in regards to like the wild animals. You imagine a burglar breaking the house?

Well, that's exactly what I thought about that. How cool it'd be to have like an animal like that in your house and like someone break in and be like a guard cat in the fuck out of here. Bro, have you ever seen one in person? Oh, what? I think it's a serval. I think that's the name of it.

I had a friend who had a friend who had one and they took a video of them going in the house and petting and shit. So I got to see like in context of the person. So it was a links that I looked up. Oh, okay. It was a links, those were cool. Well, look at this.

I hear, okay, that, I think that's it. Full grown. Bro, it looks like a little mini Cheetah. Wow, it does. It's actually a bit, it is a circle, Doug look up a circle with a human or person. It's like a, I mean, they're tall. There was a YouTube video right there. I feel like John Jones had one of those. Yeah, they're, yeah, look at it. That's a big ass. Oh, they look just like those, what are the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they're yeah, look at that's a big ass. Oh, they look just like those what are the the Mutton starts with an M What's one of those big cats that are that are legal that you can't have over here. That starts with an M. Yeah Fuck what is it? Just throwing just throwing names out there man. No look Yes, man, thank you man, thank you man, thank you man, man, cool or man, what if Yes, main coon. Thank you. Main coon. Main coon or main coon? What if main coon?

Have you never seen that? You know, there is. They're actually huge. No, look at them. And they look just kind of like that cat right there. They're giant house cats. Well, people make them house cats. See?

Oh, wow. Look at that picture. Oh, wow. Yeah, they're huge. And you can actually get one of those. So, in their legal. Wow. That's a fat cat.

That one looks more magical. Does it? Looks like he's gonna give you like a wish're legal. Wow. That's a fat cat. That one looks more Magical, doesn't he look like he's gonna give you like a wish or something like that? My family have main cool. What your family had one. Yeah, really just passed though. Oh Was it are they nice or they like what are they? Oh? More aggressive than regular cats. They're nice, but They're not as friendly much more vicious when you have like food around And they're bringing lots of rats. I just say they'll they'll bring in big rodents Like always out there's always out and about yeah, they'll they'll attack like big ass rodents and wow But they'll big to some of those suckers are what where I live

Because I'm up against the foothills. There's a bobcat that always comes up on the On the fence. Yeah, we get those run through. Yeah, we also get cougars running through too. Have you seen them? Yeah. You've seen them? Yeah, on our nest camera. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's crazy, man. They're there, but it's like, they're usually just passing through and one of my neighbors though, he's seen it multiple times.

So it is alarming because you want to pay attention to their patterns. If I have a little dog, that's total, like, fair game for them. I don't want to play a game for you. I don't want to help you. He was back in the day. He was a cougar expert. So he was waiting for that joke.

Like the patterns and stuff. Different types of things. What's the look for? What's the look out for? This is the look. It's just leaving the crums for those cougars. Anyway, I want to break something up. I thought was amazing that maybe he would be excited

about, I don't know, Justin. Did you guys see the cheeseburger? I think it's Thailand? Yeah, the Burger King has a meatless cheeseburger. Okay, I pretend that real cheese thing comes out and I don't get tagged. Right, yeah, pretend. I know I can never bring any cheese news to him anymore.

It's a pretty brilliant, we've ruined his deal. 85 slices of cheese between bread. Is it real? I thought that was being funny. It looks like real. It looks like in Thailand. I mean, so I don't know. I can't really confirm. Let's fact check this.

I thought it was like a joke towards the anti-meat movement. That's what I thought it was. But I don't know. Is it? I mean, we all slice of cheese in between of two bonds. You know, it makes me think real. And it's easy at that point. It reminds me of what you would do if you were 14 at home,

mom and dad are home, you're home, you're like, no, there's no meat. Oh, all right. I'm just gonna put cheese. I could just put 10 of cheese in between the bread. And I'm gonna eat that a lot of it. What you guys got for us over there? It is.

Yeah, it seems to be real. Wow. 20 slices of American cheese between a bun. Dude, okay, so I need some, I need some people to kind of give us feedback, like from Thailand, like, dude, are they, that end of cheese over there? Cause that's what they're saying.

I'm sure we go. I feel, I'm not, I feel like these fast food restaurants, this has been the trend, I think, for the like the last decade plus is some normal marketing. Yeah, if you come out with this like radical sandwich or burger and it doesn't even matter if they sell, it's that it gets publicity. Listen, you're right.

And now we're talking about it. Oh, look at him bro. Yeah. Like, they sell 10 of them, right? And then, you know, but everyone's talking about how ridiculous it is or what are with that. And so then it drives traffic. Didn't burger, was it burger king that came out?

And that was KFC, never mind. They did the burger. It was like a bacon burger, but the buns was fried chicken. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that was actually kind of awesome. They did something with like black buns or whatever. Yeah, just ended up looking like it was like molded bread. And so it didn't do well.

Oh, they did that. It was for Halloween. Yes, it was for Halloween. Yeah, black ketchup, you guys remember that? Black ketchup, too. Yes, it was for Halloween. Yeah. Black catch up, you guys remember that? Black catch up, too. You guys remember that? Yeah.

Kinds of that? Nobody bought that. Clear patchy. In any catch up, it's not red. It's suspect. Disgusting. It would actually be fun to go through like some of the best and worst like marketing ideas for companies like that.

That things that like hit a home run that you would have won, never expected, or stuff that like totally bombed, or hurt the business. Dude, I gotta tell you guys, I had a funny experience the other day at a family event. My, I think this happened to you too, Adam, my cousin brings her boyfriend and I hadn't really met him before and so we're all hanging out and stuff.

And she's like, come on, you can tell him, you can tell him. So in my head I'm like, oh, he must, you know, recognize me from my book. Right? Oh God, thank you, man. He goes, I've seen you on like Viori. Oh, I can't even.

Yeah. You work with Viori? I don't like okay bro. I thought he was talking about my pump. Hey, those are going everywhere. Everybody sees me on the Viori? Yes. I know.

I get Viori and Caldera. Those are the two ads that are like getting a lot of traction and I get, I have more often than not in my family. That's how much they've grown, you know what I mean? Where it's like a big deal, people. I mean, you figure Viori is a bigger company than we are, right? So, they're probably pumping those ads out pretty hard. So, it's funny though that people,

how people attach fame and stuff, you know. Like, I argue to like, oh my God, I can't leave out famous you are. I was like, huh? And they're like, yeah, so you're on this vjory commercial. Yes, that famous now, that's what makes you famous. I don't use Facebook, except for like the forum and that's literally it, right? And it was the same thing. It was like, all of a sudden, now I get like a cousin

that Liz and Minnesota is like, whoa, I just like, you're doing huge things. I'm like, this is what you think I'm doing. That's like the huge thing. Yeah, that's cool. But like, you know, there's not even paying a tick because I don't post anything on there. I don't blame them or anything, but it's just kind of funny that that's the thing.

Justin's an ETH Leisure Were model. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'll top all those last night. Literally last night, I'm giving Macs a bath and I get a text from my dad and he starts it with like, oh my God, so I'm so proud of you, right?

And then he tells me he's like, I'm getting a colonoscopy today, right? I was like, okay, we're this guy, right? And of course, bragging about you, like I always do to the doctor and a nurse over hears me, goes, oh my God, are you talking about my pump? My husband and I absolutely love them. We listen to them every Glad I could be a bright spot in your day on dad

Now imagine if that was you getting a colonoscopy I mean the doctor's like and the nurse comes like, Hey, are you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's so proud. Yeah, so proud. That's nice.

It's like you're still in the junk food, eh? No, no, it's great. It's great that you know, I'm sure that for him, that's amazing, right? Is that why your colon looks so good? You take their products? Yeah, we call it. There's stuff.

Oh, that's awkward. So Justin, I know you're super into UFOs, so I want to show you something. I am, it's a past time. I know, you're like the guy, that goes kind of stuff. Dude, you know how it's like a thing where, like this is a big thing with UFO people. What do they call them?

UFOologists? I don't know. Don't put me in that category, yeah. Ain't like old paintings and drawings and cave paintings. All showing what looked to be like UFOs and aliens and stuff. And all looking similar with cultures that didn't communicate with each other. So it's not like they learned from someone else.

It was their own experience. Dude, I found a 200-year-old, like, drawing or painting. And it tells a story that happened in Japan in the Hitachi province. Apparently, this disc or object washed ashore in a woman with who wore strange fabric and spoken unknown language came out and talked to the people who had a small box. And the person there, drew it in, and it's a freaking UFO, dude. Look, that's a 200 year old.

Oh, how weird is that? The way it should be. Like this is before anybody in Japan would have been like, that's what UFO looks like. Yeah, you keep seeing stuff like that. Oh, there it is. Look. That's so weird. I don't know if it's it's not Cheechan

Itza, but it's one of those step pyramids down in South America, but we're not quasi-calls. I forget the name, but it's like one of their Aztec gods that they have like etched in there. He looks like he's like operating a helicopter. No, not the helicopter one, but that one's interesting too. This one's like a rocket. And he literally has his hand on like a, like he's pulling a lever and his foot's like on a pedal. And so, and they try to like explain it,

like it's like some vessel to the afterlife or something, but it's just like, it's so trippy to say the least. Yeah, it's all weird stuff. Like, I've heard people say that, when humans will hallucinate similarly, and that could explain it, but then why would we all hallucinate in very similar, you know, strange ways?

Well, you know what sucks about this is that, if that's true, and it's like 200 years ago, they were showing this stuff, it just shows that like, what makes us think that we're gonna get any closer to finding out. I don't know. Yeah. You know, that's true and it's like 200 years ago there's some of this stuff that just shows that like what makes us think that we're going to get any closer to finding out. Maybe that we've been, they're observing us like they, like we're like zoo animals and that's just, you're just a few that over the last 100 years that have crashed and they

have this invisible technology and that's just malfunctioned on a couple of them that ended up crashing and so somebody saw them. Yeah, and this cover up and suppression of information, it just makes the whole thing. It builds way more mystery around. It's like, you know, there's pyramids and things they found in China that like they've flown over it. And then the next time they fly over it, it's like, oh, buried again.

And so it's like, it's just weird, you know? It's like in some things that they find and then certain cultures like people come in, they just destroy it right away. And it's like, oh my god, there was probably a wealth of knowledge there. So that fascinates me more is like, like I didn't know. It's a lost knowledge. Yes, I'm like more fascinated by, I mean, the other day, I didn't even know this. We just, I just heard for the first time, I didn't even know there was pyramids in Antarctica So you have these pyramids in like in Antarctica, Mexico, Egypt like in this Like I know they all they all line up

With two constellations more constellation. Yeah, so so like here we are these random places all over the world We're obviously we didn't have planes in ways to get over our communication back and forth yet We were able to come up with these incredibly complex buildings back then without any of these crazy tools that we have. And they look similar. Yeah, like that to me is wild. And that's something we can see that's tangible today. So like the UFO thing is like, oh, it could be hallucination, it could be like whatever. We don't have anything to handle.

That is tangible and weird enough for me that that fascinates me. Yeah, I don't know, it's strange because the accounts are so similar in all these different cultures. Like it looks like you're looking at this 200 year old drawing, it looks like a UFO you would draw today. Yeah, and you're talking about the Renaissance era or the done paintings and you see these gold.

And then they've tried to say it's like, don't know if it's if it's like angelic like Light oh, they're trying to depict or like halos or it really looks like little UFOs that are right behind them. Yeah, so it's just it's just strange that it's if and it's kind of to like when you start to really look for something, you start seeing it more in things. You find that phenomenon. So I'm not like, you know, your typical kind of all-in phenomenon call. There's a name for that, right? So the same, isn't the same name that like when you get the car, the all-in-seam car?

Yeah, yeah, there's the same excuse. Is there a term for that, Doug? I think there's something called the reticular activator or something like that that's involved with that might be right. Oh, yeah, you just pull that right out Oh, he does have the computer ran for All right, this is here's a shout out. It's just pure humor Some of it inappropriate some of it weird. It's just funny It's a page on Instagram trash can pull It's hilarious.

I follow that one. Yeah, I just, we just die laughing sometimes. Justin and I will share memes and stuff from there. So check them out. Paleo Valley makes grass fed meat sticks that have great macronutrient profile. So great in protein, of course, the grass fed. So the healthy, they taste amazing.

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And I've written down everything I wanted to say beforehand, so just so I don't mess up. And then first off, thank you for taking my call. And hopefully I can get some answers and just some guidance on some of the issues I've been dealing with. Okay, all right, so I'm 23 years old and in the year 2017, I began training in professional wrestling. In 2018, I had a match and a few times in the match, I took a move called the pedigree in which my hands were behind my back and I spiked myself on top of my head.

The third time, I felt a pinch in the left side of my neck and tingling down my left arm. The next day I noticed my bicep atrophy quite a bit on the left side. I would also feel tingling down my left arm during the day and my bicep would even turn purple when I performed bicep exercises. I did not get looked at and continued to wrestle until late 2020. Mid 2020 I began to have sciatica and my lower back down to my hamstrings on occasion until it eventually went away but now I have little filling in my hamstrings. For over a year now I listen to countless episodes of your show. In January this year I attended a PT workshop and was evaluated on my overhead squat.

After I did the overhead squat the PT instructor said he was scared for me, and to look on his face even scared me. He told me to be very careful when training. Since then, I've been hyper focused on mobility. My protein targets sleep, the relationships with the people around me, creatine, whims off breathing technique, and a lot of big factors when they're trying to increase the range of motion of major joints and connections to muscles when lifting. Lifting based off of form and technique rather than the weight and mostly corrective exercises and or priming, following that as prime pro, prime and a ballic in performance.

My ranges of motion have improved, huge appetite increase from a typical hard gainer but I don't feel like I'm inside my body, especially my posterior chain. Prime from movements that target the neck aren't getting me any more connected, as I know they should be. For example, my girlfriend loves handcuffs with reputation, but I don't feel connected to my shoulders, the radix spine, and sometimes feels sensations in my lower back.

I lack a lot of grip strength, even struggling to pick up smaller objects. All in all, I cannot feel my own body. I'm constantly practicing zone one wall test, even at my serving job during town times. A couple weeks ago, I consumed cannabis. In an in-emobility session, when it's a zone one wall test, while simultaneously holding a resistance band and doing an isometric bicep curl. I felt my entire body's range of motion, connection and my overall strength was boosted in an instant. Basically, I felt like I was carrying my own body again all at once. This connection lasted a couple days and I haven't been able to find a sense.

I'm confused on whether it's something I'm not doing, am I not trusting the process, or am I going to correct my spinal issues the wrong way, maybe even a combination of all of them. I would appreciate any guidance on this as you were the only source of fitness knowledge I truly trust. Yeah, so moral, moral of story, marijuana is a miracle drug. Yeah. There.

Yeah. Smoke more weed. All right, thanks for calling it. No, listen, there's a couple of things here that are going on. So the improved connection through cannabis is more of a subjective thing with a single dose. In some cases with nerve issues, there's limited studies, but there could be improvement with certain neural connections, but that's kind of, I don't know, it's a little cloudy.

I would say it's more of a subjective thing because even somebody with no nerve damage would sometimes experience or say the experience the same thing. So that's more, that's kind of down that. So let's cut that out for a second. And let's talk about what might be going on first off. You know, all the stuff you're doing is not wrong or bad, but you need to see an expert, you need to see an expert and get your potential nerve damage evaluated because an actual neurologist, not like a general practitioner. No, no, no, so yeah, somebody who's an expert

who can test you for any potential nerve damage, you know, if you have impingement on a nerve, a lot of times you can approve it significantly, sometimes nerve damage is so bad, if you have impingement on nerve, a lot of times you can improve it significantly. Sometimes nerve damage is so bad that all you can do is work with what you have and there's only so far you can go. I, there's no way for me to comment on what's going on with you because number one, I can't assess you. Number two, I'm not an expert on, on nerve damage. I would, I would, if you were my client, I would send you to somebody to get that all tested. So telling me that you don't have feeling

in your hamstring, tingling on one side, weakness on one side, that all speaks to some nerve damage that might need to be identified. And if you don't, here's the risk, okay. The risk is potentially making it worse with exercises that would otherwise be innocuous because of your individual situation. So you need to go see someone. You need to go get assessed to kind of see what's going on. Especially it's persisting, right? It's something that you're noticing. It hasn't improved much.

I mean, because you are doing a lot of things that naturally would help to kind of benefit the connectivity aspect. But I mean, if you're not noticing that, and two, you know, that's just one of those areas that like you really need to get somebody that knows specifically how to address nerve damage. Yeah, I want to point out that the stuff that you are doing, so if this would happen to me, like I probably would have went the same route you did, like all these things that you're doing, I think are not bad,

like this would be how I would start to troubleshoot this, but if I was still having issues, like that's where I this would work. At this point, this is where I would go, okay, I need to go see somebody, because I'm doing all of my mobility stuff, I'm trying to adjust my next stuff, I'm trying to adjust my neck stuff. I'm trying to address all this postural stuff.

I'm trying to address all the things that I know how to address that I can potentially help this. And I'm still feeling this. It's now beyond my scope. Like now it's time for me to go and actually have like, and again, a neurologist. If you go see like a GP, you go see like a trainer, you go see someone who is not a specialist in nerves.

Like they're not gonna be able a specialist in nerves, like they're not going to be able to help you like they can. Yeah, so how long ago did this happen? So this was about five years ago. Okay. Yeah, so here, look, okay. Here's where I'm empathetic. I'm looking at your age, your 23.

Look, even now I have trouble with going to see a professional when I need to. Okay, I even am super reluctant now. My wife gets on my case all the time. But let me ask you this, why haven't you gone to see somebody? Why don't you go see an expert and say, hey, my biceps turning colors, I can't feel my arm, my hamstring, like why don't you see somebody? So the turning colors and the tingling hasn't happened since that year. The reason I didn't go and see someone is because literally a month after that it happened, I was going to Japan to wrestle and so I didn't want them to tell me, you know, always, I think I did get to wrestle.

That makes sense. Just being young and young and dumb. Yeah, so let's stop that now and go see somebody. Yeah, you're well beyond the point of, you know, this is a strength issue or you could fix this on your own or whatever. Now look, here's a deal. Let's say you go and they're like, okay,

you have some nerve damage. There's not much we can do aside from surgery then you gotta do a little evaluation. Five years later, I would say surgery, in some cases is appropriate. Most cases probably not. In which case, you're working with what you can work with. And strengthening is always a good thing.

It's gonna get better than it would had you not done those things. But you may be limited by damage. And sometimes nerve damage is, you know, often if it's really bad damage, it doesn't come back. But that doesn't mean you can't make yourself a lot better than had you not, you know, done this work, but you're doing that. But to get a proper diagnosis and get some clarity as to, you know, what your limitations might be, you know, and that way you can kind of work around and kind of build up some

strength to support that. But I just, yeah, I totally understand that. I mean, I'm speaking like that. I struggle with the same thing in terms of like going to get evaluated and go in and see a doctor. So I empathize with that. But yeah, it's at that point where that's literally the only advice. I mean, this is what I would have done.

I would have done the same thing. So I mean, kudos to you for that, right? I mean, you know, you hammered yourself for being stubborn or young and dumb by not going to see a specialist. Right. But being honest, like, if I had some issue like this, I would first try and figure it out myself. This is actually not bad because most guys

are age would have been like, ignore it. Yeah, walk it off. Totally. Yeah. It was awesome. And we might find out that the stuff that you are doing is what is going to be necessary going forward is like, that's what you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, called because I didn't even know who I would go see him, like, okay, do I go see a physical therapist, a personal trainer and neurologist, I had no idea which direction I should go. And I accidentally didn't even know

that I was dealing with this issue as much as I was until there was a day that I consumed cannabis again. I went into a mobility session. I was like, I'm not feeling my body. And so, down there. No, look, that could be related to nerve stuff. It could also just be psychological. To be quite honest, let's try to be a high level athlete,

especially to be young, it's a skill set, but it's also a detriment to be able to disconnect from pain in your body. And let's be honest, being a pro wrestler, like if you sit there and feel. Yeah, if you sit there and feel every damn bump, like you ain't gonna do that. That's like, if people don't realize just how painful,

like just because it's scripted, we know who's gonna win, who's gonna win. It don't mean you come out feeling okay. I don't think there's a single match you come out where you don't have some kind of injury. So you kind of had to learn that. So I don't know if cannabis, if it's more of a psychological thing.

So I would, if I were you, I would just cut that out for a second, just don't even consider that. I would actually go see a good physical therapist first. And here's why. A physical therapist knows when to refer to somebody who is a nerve specialist. A nerve specialist, they're going to look at everything through a kind of a deep, limited scope. Right.

They could potentially ascend you away and go like, oh, I don't see any surgery. No, they could just like, yeah, we're going to operate, right? Where as a physical therapist might be like, well, yeah, let's see if this movement might help and let's start with that first, or let me work with a nerve specialist. So I would go to a physical therapist, let them know what's going on, and how you want to see someone. And then working with a nerve specialist plus a physical therapist would probably be the best approach. But look, just to motivate you further,

because I know you're young, you got lots of energy, you're probably very motivated to just power through things. Go get this looked at because if you do the wrong thing, this is go real bad, real fast. Okay, okay. That's what I don't want to do. So that's why I've been mainly focused on the mobility. And Nadi, I really haven't even been listening for strength. I've purely just been listening

for a range of motion and trying to just get my body to be able to be, you know, applicable or just have that movement. Okay. Okay. Good. That's good. All right. Good. Yeah. Go see someone. I'm going to have Doug put you in our private forum that way. We can keep an eye on you and talk to you there. Plus we actually have our good buddy, Dr. Brink in there, I think Shalos in there. So we have some guys that have some PT backgrounds that may be able to point you in the direction. Because I know you're in Oklahoma,

so maybe we can find somebody that's a referral from us out there that would be a good specialist. Yeah, that would be great too, because even being a personal trainer, I was like, okay, there's a lot of, they might be in the field, but I don't need even knowing,, you know, it's, they might not know.

So even having like some referral would be great. Yeah, yeah. Well, I have, I'll have Doug send you access to that. So hop in there and then I make sure you stay in touch with us. Yep. All right. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

Hi, man. By typical guy, right? I would do the same thing. I know. I know. Especially his eight. I would even the same thing. I know. Especially his aid. I would even do it now.

I would. Just being straight up. Like if I had some shit that felt that, I'd be like, okay, let me see if I can. She's going to work through it. Yeah. Let me see if I can. Five years, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even not five years. Five years, I got some shit behind me. Especially nerfed, dude. Like that's different, right? There's difference between like, you know, like a nagging chronic pain or something that that flares up or down or inflammation some of that and then there's like like not feeling your body that's pretty alarming.

That's a true. That's the typical like oh you this hurts go eat some grass go for a walk you'll feel better you know what though like it you know like you do a front dog you know you you know you get why he did it right he's trying to trying to make a career out of wrestling. This is one of the reasons, by the way, one of the factors, there's other factors to it, but one of the reasons why men tend to die earlier is they wait so long, like the late stage terminal diagnosis

with men is higher than it is with women. Cause a little of the doctor and the doctor would be like, you're like, I'm so glad you came. You should have died any day now. How long have you been noticing this? What happened five years? I thought it was the worst at seeking help. Terrible.

Our next caller is Taylor from California. Taylor, what's happening? How can we help you? Not much. Thank you so much for having me on. I found you guys late last year. I started work from home and needed something to kind of fill the void of being alone at home,

working and stuff. So I've been really enjoying the whole backlog of podcasts and everything, so you appreciate it. So for the past six months, I've been running a six day pull of push legs, beginners, strength routine. I've been more seriously lifting for about a year now. Though back in high school, I did watercolon splim swim so weightlifting wasn't a foreign concept to me. After about a few months the beginner gains began to tape-roof and ever since then I really stalled out on the four primary low-spinch squat deadlift overhead press. During this time, I was also running two and a half miles a day

and with an hour walk after work as well. I've gradually increased my calories from 2,200 up to 2,500 right now to try and remedy the plateau. And it's still haven't really seen any increases in strength or weight. And so I've been hovering at, right around 155 pounds in a 5 foot 10. And at the end of every workout, I'm definitely fatigued and everything. So I know it's not a case of not going hard enough during workouts.

And more recently, I've been experiencing really low libido, low motivation workout, and general fatigue. I got my testosterone tested and I come to find out that it's in the teens actually. And me being 27 year old male, that's pretty shocking. My primary goal has been increased size and strength with minimal fat gain, hence all the cardio and everything, trying to do a playing booking approach. And it's my question for you guys is the lack of progress likely more due to Ota Sashron overtraining likely some combination of both. And when I do start TRT, what can I expect? As far as gym performance and just general equality of life improvements, I have started on it actually a couple of weeks ago. And I've noticed a little bit of mood improvement, things like that. I was wanting to get your opinion on what else to expect as I continue therapy.

Increase calories further, revamp my workouts. What do you think? Taylor, you've been listening to our show for a little while. I have. What do you think we're going to say? Predictions. Predictions. You're returning pressure.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay're overturning for sure. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, okay. All the above though, I mean, I want to get this clear. Teens, you were in the low teens. Is that what you said? That's what it said. Yeah, that is what I mean. Yeah, low teens, even like double digits,

is pretty concerning. Yeah, yeah. So overtraining, overst stress, will hammer testosterone. So your lack of gains, is it coming from low testosterone? I mean, yeah, some of it, but what's the low testosterone coming from? You're beating the shit out of yourself. Yeah, okay, so you're six days a week.

You're doing it at all the cardio. And it's a beginner. Beginner strength training program, six days a week. That doesn't sound like a beginner program is this. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I got it on Reddit. It's a pretty popular one. It's just called like Reddit six day pull push links. Yeah. Um, I will mention that I did like definitely add extra exercises and extra sets. Oh, God, especially for that. That one is too, okay. Taylor, bro.

Taylor, this is, okay, so here's a deal with the two. Add calories, map 15, and then you're, I would actually like to get ahold of you before the TRT, because I would like to see when I could have done first. Yeah, mm-hmm. Cause I think that simply reducing the intensity and or volume of training, bumping your calories, dropping

the running, putting you on a program, or like a map 15 or a map Santa Bolic, I think we could, and then focusing on things like sleep, make sure we've got a good balance, make sure you're getting good healthy, fast, sun. Yeah, like there's a lot of things that I would have liked to have done with you first, just to see what I could have done, but it sounds like your TRT was in the, you know, your testosterone was in the floor, so. So let's, okay, we gotta dive a little deeper here. So you're like, oh my God, I feel like crap.

I'm gonna bump my calories 300. Why did you only bump your calories up 300? Why not more? Minimizing fact gain. Last year I did a pretty aggressive crash diet where you guys are gonna hate you for this. I was down to like 1500 calories and like running twice as much as I'm doing right now. I did for a few months, and I just felt so lousy. So I stopped doing that. So I'm kind of thinking that

really killed my testosterone. And then I just never really checked out on it. That's right. That's right. And then you're right. This is where this started. And then you just have not tried to truly recover. You think you did something to recover, but you did.

Here's the second question. So question one was, why do you only bump at 300? I'm afraid of gaining body fat. Second part of the question, why haven't you cut the volume and intensity of all your workouts? I like to work hard. Why?

It's not for results, obviously, because you're not getting any. So why do you like to work hard? To feel like I'm doing something right. Okay. Okay, so this goes a lot deeper than what you're asking. Okay, so you're abusing exercise and diet. So you gotta look a little deeper,

because I'm gonna give you advice, it's not gonna help you though, until you realize what you're doing with your workouts and your diet. So you got to look a little deeper because I'm going to give you advice. It's not going to help you though until you realize what you're doing with your workouts and your diet. Okay, because it's not for results That's not why you're doing it because you're not getting good results. It's not to feel good because I feel like shit So this is an abusive relationship that you have with exercise and diet. You're abusing It like a drug like when someone's an alcoholic and they're dying, but they won't stop drinking. This is what's happening with you in exercise, obviously not to that extreme,

but you're not touching those things because you have a poor, this is a dysfunctional relationship. So now I need you to look at that very closely and pay attention to it, because what needs to happen is this. First off, going on testosterone replacement therapy with everything that's going on, it's like your house is on fire and then you get a squirt gun and you start squirting water at the house. Like, is testosterone gonna help you feel better?

A little bit. It ain't gonna save you, I promise you that. You're still gonna drive yourself. In fact, you're gonna be worse. Yeah, because it's gonna mask. You're gonna mask some of the symptoms and you're gonna continue to probably do things that you shouldn't do. Yeah, like if you were my client,

like there's two ways I would approach this. One would be this real gradual approach because I need you to be consistent and I know psychologically it'll be really hard to do what you need to do. The second way would be, okay, if I know you're gonna do what I'm gonna tell you, this is what I'm gonna tell you to do. You're gonna take two weeks off completely.

You're gonna bump your calories up to about 2,800 calories. When you go back to working out, you're gonna lift weights twice a week, and you're gonna keep your calories about 2,800 calories. And you stay there until you start to feel fricking strong and amazing. And then we'll add another day of strength training,

and then we're gonna stay there for like a year. That's it. Now you can walk, that's fine. Not gonna have you run, not gonna have you do anything else. You wanna walk, find, go for a leisurely walk, your walks should not be workouts. They should be just leisurely. And that's it, that's where I keep you for a long,

like a year, that's where I keep you to allow your body to heal. Now, do you think you're able to do that or do you think that's gonna be too challenging for you psychologically? That might be kind of challenging for me psychologically because I'm also a pretty competitive person and I have a few friends that also work out a lot

that are also really into weightlifting and stuff and they're always like sending me Snapchat. So, oh, I got a new PR, oh, I got just not. That's awesome. Are they real friends? Or are they just like, you know what I mean? By like, do they really care about your well-being? Are they supportive?

Or are they just like friends you made through working out where you just try and push each other? No, we've been buddies for years. We used to go back back and all the time and everything. So it's coming from good place. I'm just reading way too much into it and I wanna be able to keep up and be competitive with them, because that's fun.

You will be, you will be, if we do this right. Yeah, Taylor, so send them this episode when it airs. I'm gonna talk to your friends right now. Taylor needs your support and he's gonna get triggered with the competitive stuff. He's abusing exercise and hurting his body. So he needs your support. He's gonna be working out way less. He needs to eat more. He needs to get himself better. So if these are really good friends and they're gonna help do that for you because I know how

triggering that can be when you're watching other people do. Well you think you should be able to do and it's not working for you. Do you want to send him maps in a ball or maps 15? Oh, you know, I like maps and a ball like, because, yep, because I know it'll happen if we give maps 15, it'll turn into maps 60. So it's so many days a week. Maps and a ball like do the two days a week foundational workouts, bump your calories,

and I suggest you work with somebody on the root reasons as to why you're abusing exercise the way you are. Therapists would be a good idea, but I think that's gonna, that'll really help you quite a bit. Otherwise, you're gonna go, this is gonna be a, like your body's gonna get, the signals are gonna get louder. Did you, did I hear you say when we first started talking

that you really have only been like consistent training for the last year or two years, is that when, when did you get into like fitness? consistent training for last year or two years? When did you get into like fitness? The past year, I would say, I started off at my like crappy apartment gym, and then eventually I moved over to Plank Fitness for a couple of months.

I realized that was horrible, and I found an actual gym with like actual equipment and stuff. So since last October, I've been doing proper barbell training. And you said what was that you played water polo, right? How many years did you have for back in high school? So that was only four years. Okay. What was the catalyst to to to motivate you to go and start working out? I mean, what was there, physically that you wanted to change? Was there a competition that came up? Was there, what made you go,

I'm gonna start working out? So it started off with me, like just kind of wanting to challenge myself to like see if I could lose weight because I've never really deliberately tried losing weight before so I was like, okay, screw it, I'll try it to see if I could lose weight because I've never really deliberately tried losing weight before. So I was like, okay, screw it. I'll try it to see if I can do it. Then I got down from 170 pounds down to like 150 and I was like, okay, now I got to build myself back up because I'm just too small, too scrawny. That's when it picked up weightlifting because I was wanting to actually put on some size and strengths.

Yeah, this is going to be the challenge for you is not the same challenge that most people have. Most people's challenges, consistency and how do I stick with this and all that stuff. Your challenge is going to be, how do I not abuse this? How do I create a relationship where this is beneficial and not destructive? So you're gonna, I mean, I would have to pull you back constantly if you're my client, which is the opposite of what I tend to have to do. The truth is though, if you do, if you listen

to exactly what you would sell set as far as the two days a week, bump the calories all the way up, cut out the running and, what you, what South said as far as the two days of week, bump the calories all the way up, cut out the running and, and, and stick to that. You should actually feel and see a difference like within the weeks, like you'll start to feel better, look better, all the above. Here, I'll, I'll trip you out right now, Taylor. So I'm going to make a prediction that I'll bet money on. You take two weeks off completely, okay?

You just started TRT a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Okay. You take two weeks off completely, okay? You just started TRT a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Okay, you take two weeks off completely, when you go back to working out, you're gonna have significant strength gains from taking two weeks off. You're gonna go back, you'll do a couple exercises and you're gonna be stronger.

Okay. And when that happens, so long as you feed yourself, don't starve yourself, when that happens, there's your hint, there's your clue like, oh shit, I've been really overdoing it. We didn't get into your macros at all or anything like that, but did you dramatically cut any single macro? Did you like reduce fat, like, really low or do anything like that? Or did you just go by calories? It definitely prioritized protein. This entire time, it's been at least one gram per pound of body weight.

And the like dietary fats, no less than 50 grams is entire time than the rest, which is carbs up and down. Oh, bro, you got to get your fats up. Start having some free sources of protein. Start getting steak. If your fat was that low, what you're saying, did you get your nutrients up. Start having some free sources of protein. Start getting steak. If you're fat, was that low? And that's what you're saying. Did you get your nutrients tested like vitamin D,

your fat soluble vitamins? No, vitamin D wasn't a part of the blood balance. Wow, really? I mean, you get your lipids and everything, we're fine. That doesn't matter. They give you testosterone to testing your D without testing your vitamin D. Nope. Nope.

Wow. Yeah, dude. I would guess because your fat is so low with some of your symptoms. I would guess. I say guess because I still want to get this tested. By the way, that's where I want you to bump your calories. Yeah. It's bump but in fat.

Go get your, go get your, go get your, your, your nutrients tested iron, D, magnesium, those are the most important ones right now. I would say zinc. See if you can get those tested, because if those are low, your testosterone is going to be in the floor as well. You have anxiety, depression, low recovery, all that stuff from having, I mean, going from low vitamin D to adequate feels like you just animal steroids. It's a huge difference. And just so you know, 50 or less is low from my female clients.

With that. And who are doing proper amounts of weight training? So that's really fucking low. Okay. So from my situation, what would be? 100, over 100, hit 100 plus. That, really? Yes. 100 grams plus minimum a day and so when South told you to bump calories bump it on from fat I so if

you're a chicken and fish guy become a steak guy you know start at add olive oil to when you're cooking like you need to you need to bump your fat okay yeah sounds good yep uh there's something I've been avoiding in the past because I'm someone that loves volume eating. I need to eat a lot of food to be able to keep me full and everything. Go to town of vegetables. There's primarily a pile of vegetables and chicken stuff like that.

You know why, though? That's okay. Eat the chicken thighs, put the olive oil on the vegetables. So those are two easy ways right there we can compromise. You're a client of mine, you tell me that, okay cool, eat your big ass bowl of vegetables, pour olive oil on it. Instead of having chicken breast, have chicken thighs,

add in some steak. Like there's a way to compromise. We can, by the way, when a clue that one of your macro, your essential macro nutrients is too low, is that you need lots of volume to feel satiated. Okay. Nutrient deficiencies will do that. In fact, if a nutrient deficiency gets bad enough, no amount of volume will start to

feel like it's satisfying you. Yeah. That's one of the beauties of good fats. Like good fats will, will satiate you. You'll feel better on it. So let's do that I'm gonna have Doug put you also on the private form because I want to be able to keep an eye on as we go through this process So we're gonna send you over a map Santa ball like that's the program after you're two weeks off that that that Sal is recommending I want you in the forum go get those tested like Sal was saying and then and then let us know in the

Forum and then we're keeping eye on you. We're gonna fix this shit. Yep That sounds perfect. Thank you so much. You got a man. All right, Tower. Good luck. I got this man Thank you Yeah, you know, I don't know why I didn't I didn't think to ask his macros Yeah, I'm glad you did. I figured it. I mean, yeah, I mean, it was a good question because duh You know, yeah, he's doing all this other stuff. Well, he wasn't terrible He wasn't like I mean, he's low, right? And obviously when he was 1500, I would have been an obvious thing.

But then I was like, you know what? Maybe he's like, it's one of those guys who eats all fucking fish and chicken and is like avoiding fat like crazy. And that'll make you, that'll drop testosterone like that. That'll make you feel like that too. I want people watching and listening to this too, like, you know, it sounds obvious on the outside. Like, well, duh, like you're overdoing this and that. When you have a dysfunctional relationship

with something, it's not. So it's easy to judge, but I'm pretty sure everybody watching right now does something that is not good for them, that they, if they thought about it, they know, but they ignore it and they continue doing it anyway, it's no different. And fitness can be abused just as well.

And that's what he's experiencing. Listen, it could also not be coming from a place of pure dysfunction, just unaware. You're unaware that you're unaware. It just crep up on him. I mean, I mean, I was, we were both kind of prodding for like some psychological thing that he's,

even being used to. Well, weight training is so new to him too. And being that unaware is of a dysfunction. It is, but I mean like it's not like, when you say that, like sometimes like the thing that I thought I was searching for that I thought I was gonna hear from him is like, oh I, yeah, trauma, trauma, I quit,

I quit drinking or smoking and now I went this way. Yeah, and that's what I mean by that. Like some people will think that this function automatically means you have like this crazy trauma or something. But you could have this dysfunctional relationship with exercise and food, and it kind of just crept up on you and you don't even realize it. Just because you think you're doing the right thing

by cutting these calories and cutting these fats, you think you're doing the right thing by pushing the lifting weights because I need to build muscle because I'm too skinny. Like, he's thinking, it's out from me. It sounds like he's thinking like he's doing the right things. Yeah, but you look that's for him to figure out with somebody and we're not going to be able to get that. Yeah, you're in this conversation.

Right, right. But it's obvious that the relationship he has with exercises not helping him at all. So that's why I wanted to make that. I tell you what though, you watch you if he bumps his calories from fat He takes those two weeks off. Oh my god. He comes back with just Really like pays attention and he's on TRT right now You'll get you'll gain 10 pounds of muscle literally on accident Yeah, you'll be like what happened his body starving. I hope he follows up with this because he will be he will be a great person to talk to

Three to six months from now if he listened to what we gave him. Our next caller is Cody from Iowa. Cody, what's happening? How can we help you? Hey guys, how you doing today? Good. Good. We'd love to hear that.

I just want to start off by saying thank you for having me today. I appreciate your guys choosing my question. It kind of feels a little surreal to actually be on the show today. It's awesome. I want to thank you guys for everything that it is you do in this space, been listening for about a year and a half now and You guys blow my mind every single day. So I really appreciate everything you guys do for a space right on what you got for us So question is I think the email said, why can't I lean out? So to basically start off, I started like actually lifting

and I think it was March or April of 22 last year. I started with Annabolic and I wasn't really consistent with it for a while because it was new and I was starting to just get into the fitness space. After Interbolic, I went to Symmetry, then hit back to Interbolic, and then went to aesthetic and then I tried to split a few months ago. I started bulking in 22.

I think I was around 175 to 185. My fiance, she had me in a 3000 calorie surplus, so I bolded up to about 200 pounds and that was in February. From that point forward, when I hit that 200 calorie mark, we cut my calories from 3,000 to 26, 26 to 23, and then 23 to 2,200. And I've been cutting ever since,

and I've seen the find myself in this spot where I'm not really moving much. I've seen a six pound loss just this morning. I weighed in at 189.8 and it's been this fluctuation between 190 to 194 since like I would put since like May. I haven't seen much results and my body felt percentage. We did it the other day. I was around 14 to 15 percent. I did get smaller in size because my wedding is coming up

in about a month in my suit measurement change. So it just hasn't been really seen to work out for me. And I wanted to know if you guys had any answers. Yeah, well, congratulations on your upcoming wedding. I appreciate that. Awesome.

How long have you been consistent with your workouts? Um, for the first two to three months, it was very like, lackluster. I'll probably go in two or three days a week. And then I want to say around June of last year is when I really started being consistent with it. I was going just about every single day for about 45 minutes to an hour.

Okay. Okay, so by the way, you mentioned your, I guess your girlfriend or fiance, is she a trainer? She is a trainer. She is a trainer. Sorry about that. Yeah, no worries. Okay, so I would say this,

I would, if you were my client, I would have you focus on getting stronger more than anything. And I'm gonna guess that you're probably overdoing it with your workouts. I'm looking at the workouts that you're following of ours. And some of them are really, really high volume. Some of them are more appropriate for most people. And I would probably guess of all for most people. And I would

probably guess of all of our programs. Antibolic. You probably got the best strength gains with maps and a ball. Am I hitting the nail on the head? You'd be, uh, right. Perfect. Yep. Yeah. You're overdoing it. You're just over training. You're, you're, you're, I don't, I'm probably not blatantly over training. Yeah. Yeah. I want to, I want to point out too, the fact that you're seeing, you're only 14, 15% body fat range, which by the way is a healthy, decent range to be at. I mean, I know you're motivated to get probably shredded

for your wedding or whatnot that, but one, you're in a pretty good place. And if you're eating a sufficient amount of calories, you've only been really consistent for a little less than a year, some of that too could be, and we didn't ask about how consistent you are with the diet. Like, if you're, like, training is one piece of this, right, making sure that you're very consistent with your lifting. I mean, how dialled are you with this diet? Like, how much do you track? How much do you

make your own food versus going out? Like, what's the consistency around that look like? So I actually track every single day. My calories pretty much, I either hit on or I'm just 100 calories below what I'm supposed to be at. I have the luck of a fiance that meal preps every single week. So we have our lunches made perfectly for the entire week. And then she also schedules dinner throughout the week so Everything's homemade. We don't go out that often. We probably go out like once every one or two months. So I

I'm always hitting at least my body weight in protein if not more How's how's your strength in the big lifts? Like, what do you squat, what do you deadlift? What do you tell me your lifts? So when I first started, the strongest, I guess I could say I got was I was able to do a 205 squat for three. A deadlift, I was able to do about 285 for three. And then my bench was at 140 for three.

And then I think it was like a few weeks ago, all those exercises took about a 20 pound drop off. So you're overdoing it. Yeah, that's easy. And you got plenty of room to get strong. Here's what you should do. Okay, plenty of room, Adam's right, because you've only been doing this kind of consistently

for a year. For the next three to five years, your primary goal should be to get stronger, and eat a healthy diet, okay? But that's gonna guide you better than any other goal, including pure aesthetic goals, especially over pure aesthetic goals, okay? So, performant, because at some point, you can't just keep getting stronger, so at

some point you need to stop focusing on that, but for the first like five years of your work, especially at your age, it's a great, it's a better guide than almost anything else. Yeah, and you'll actually lean out, it's weird to think this, that if, you know, Salisane, hey, go bump your cow, go back in more of a bulk, focus on getting stronger, follow like a MAP's antibiotic protocol, and it will be a slow process, but you'll actually, you should see yourself get stronger and also kind of lean out at the same time.

Yeah. And what maybe if you were a client of mine, what I'd let you do while we're in this process is interrupt our really strength focus with like one week cuts. Like one week I let you cut your calories for that week and then go right back to feeding you and focus on strength. And then we'd go like that for a solid month, month and a half.

And I'd say, all right, another week, we're gonna go low calorie for a week. And then, and I just do, and doing that, every time I'd reduce the calories, you'd probably lean out a tiny bit, every time I bump the calories back up, you'd feel stronger and get stronger. That's what it would look like

for the first couple of years of us training. You've got a lot of room to get a lot stronger and build a lot more muscle, which is only going to help you in the getting lean, getting shredded process. Yeah, don't fall into this trap, Cody, because this is an easy trap to fall into. Oh, man, that person's able to work out that much and get that results

Why is it too much for me or what don't worry about that? It's all about what's gonna work best for you and Finding the right amount is the most important thing not how much you can tolerate that who cares about that right unless Your goal is to be able to tolerate a lot of work that doesn't matter so maps and a ball like is a great program for you Map symmetry is a good program Maps and Obolic is a great program for you. Maps Symmetry is a good program for you. Maps Performance is a good program for you. Maps Power Lift is a good program for you. And then Maps Split is a good program.

But here's what I want you to do with a lot of these programs, except for, let's say, Maps and Obolic and probably Maps Symmetry. With all the other programs that I mentioned, cut the volume down by a third. So if you go Maps Split, take the total sets cut the volume down by a third. So if you go maps split, take the total sets, cut them down by a third. If you, okay, so some of our more high volume program,

cut the volume way down and start there. Maps and a ball should be your base, and that's probably where you're gonna see your best most consistent gains. And then as far as cardio and all that stuff that's concerned, if you like doing that stuff, that's great. Otherwise just walk. Yeah, walk.

Yeah, just go on walks. Yeah, I'm glad you guys brought that up because I work in an office job, if you will. So I'm probably averaging like 5,075, 100 steps a day. So me and my fiance, we've been definitely trying to fit walks in a lot more to definitely raise those steps. I'm not a big cardio person, but she thinks maybe increasing my steps would at least

be a little beneficial. Oh, yeah. I think that's great advice. And I do want to commend you for not falling in the trap of just cutting your calories to 1500 calories and running every day because that would lose weight initially. If we all said, hey, let's run 1500 calories, let's run for an hour every single day, like you would lose weight, but you would just be setting yourself up

for like a harder time down the road and you didn't put all the weight on and some. So you're not far, we're little tweaks, like what's self-suggesting right now. And then a lot of it is psychological is being patient. You know, building muscle and shredding body fat and or simultaneously time to do it, is a slow process and you're young, man, you're young and you have a ton

of potential and you got a lot of great stuff ahead of you. So just be patient and trust the process. At the steps is a good, if you're that sedentary where you're 3000, it'll help out. It'll help that between that and getting and focusing on getting strong. I think you, I think you and increasing calories, I actually think that you will see yourself get stronger and slowly lean out at the same time. Okay. Awesome.

Awesome. All right, man. Do you have, you have those programs I mentioned because it looks like you're going to ran them. E, can you name them off again? I like maps and a ball, like symmetry. Do you have mass performance? I don't. all right, let me send that over to you And then let me do this also. Let me send you maps prime pro

Just because your girlfriend might find that or you fiance might find that valuable in what she does as a trainer I think and I think you'll find a valuable as well, but it'll be something you can share Okay, awesome. You got it, man I'm going in all right. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. You got it Yeah, I like it when they're easy the answer is that's classic right classic over doing that. Yeah, and he's young Yeah, he's only 22 He's not and he's only been lifting consistently for a year Yeah, and he's not in a bad place 14 15% body fat. It's so crazy

And I look at this is this is this is Instagram world. I know. And this isn't a perfect answer. Maxime results quickly. This isn't perfect, but if everybody who started working out for the first three years, just tried to get stronger. If they made that the primary goal, most people would be far better off. Just that. I don't care if you want to lose weight, you want to gain weight, you want to build whatever. So true.

If you just did that, that would guide you so much better than almost anything else just by trying to get Even if you're 50 plus pounds overweight. Yeah, which seems crazy to say that like if you just focused on eating a good amount of calories maybe even increasing them and constantly focusing on getting strong how much that will serve you in the long run Our next color is Corrine from Winnipeg. Hi, Corrine. How can I help you? Hi. I love the show.

I listened to it all the time. I was wondering if you could give me some advice for someone that has an absent bum. It's not showing up, huh? It's... All right. So what's the deal I'm assuming you're talking about yourself? Yeah, yeah actually

Okay, it's kind of runs in the family Yeah, so what is your workouts look like and What are you trying what are you doing for this and how's your diet? Workout sporadic. I'm a four-year-old mother and I try to work out, but sometimes I injure myself and that gives me setbacks. My energy is kind of low after workouts. I'd say my diet is kind of, you know, could use more protein probably, because I'm a pescatarian, so probably could use more protein. Karine, I got some good news for you. The answer is gonna be really easy. Yeah. Yeah.

Eat your body weight and protein. You gotta eat more calories. And let's get you to lift some weights consistently to build some muscle. Do you think you could, can you get to a gym two days a week or do you need something more convenient? Cause you said you're a mom and I know what it's like to have kids and how busy that is

So it's to go ahead I can totally go to a gym today as we have most of the things I think I need downstairs Those are really should don't have any excuse. Oh, yeah, you have squat rack in barbell We have a barbell and we could get a squat rack. We've been talking about it for years So oh Oh, Korean I'm gonna give you maps and a ballic and been talking about it for years. So yeah. Oh, Korean, I'm gonna give you a map, Santa Bologna.

And what you wanna do is start tracking your protein intake and do this, what's your body weight? I'm like one 13, 115, okay. Beautiful. So eat, I would have you eat about 40 grams of protein with breakfast, with lunch and with dinner, okay? So figure that out, prioritize that. Start there. I know it sounds like a lot,

but that'll give you about 120 grams. If you fall short a little bit, you're still okay. But if it's hard to do that in the single meals, there's nothing wrong with going four or five meals just so you know. Yeah, so like if you're like, oh man, I can only do 20 grams with lunch because I'll just eat more meals.

You could have another 20 grams, something where throw a shake in there. Protein shake is a real easy way to kind of help that out. And then I'd follow Maps at a Ball, like do the two day a week foundational workouts and your butt will grow for sure, doing something like that. Now, is this a connectivity issue at all?

Do you feel like when you do squats or lunges or anything, like you feel a lot in your quads versus like, you don't get a lot of activity in your glutes or is this like more just, you know, you haven't really put that kind of work in, weight training wise. I think you're right. Yeah, I have actually injured right now

from doing too many squats and jumps and my hips got sore and then that threw up my lower back. So I just feel like I tried to make progress that I could give myself these setbacks. So once my back feels better, I wanna, you're right, activate my boots. What were you doing that you were jumping? I tried Apple Fitness workouts, the hits.

Yeah. Yeah. I went like all in for a few days, but I was. No. How long have you been with us? How long have you been listening to the show? Six months. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. You get a pass. We're gonna come. You get a pass. Stop listening to anybody else. Yeah. Don't follow any other work. Please. We got you. We'll take care of you. We will not have you do jumping around for your goals. I mean, I am glad you brought that up because here's a common mistake when we give advice like this for maps and a blog for a female that wants a builder but you're going to have the temptation to want to teach or train the routine in like this circuit manner where you low rest periods, rest, the idea, rest and add weight, rest and add weight.

Your goal is to get strong. You do not care about getting a sweat. You do not care about making it burn more or being out of breath. A good strength to build your butt is no different than it is for the guy who says, I want to build my biceps, like it's a muscle. And so we got to feed it properly and we got a strength train and get lift heavy at it to build it, right? So that's the goal.

Make sure you're deliberate with your range of motion in terms of depth of your squat. So you're nice and slow and you're focused in your control and crease, yes, and to make sure you have that tension and control of your muscles. So when we send you MAPs and Abolic, I want you to follow the pre-phase for about four weeks

before you move into phase one. Okay. And then to kind of add to what Adam said earlier, if you start sweating a lot, do you know how to work out, you're moving too fast. Okay. We're not trying to burn calories. We're not trying to, we want to build. So if you're sweating, you're burning, you're all that stuff, you're going too fast right

now. Later on, your volume will increase a lot of stuff, but you're sweating, you're burning, you're all out of stuff, you're going too fast right now. Later on, your volume will increase a lot of stuff, but you're just getting started. The goal is to get stronger. That's it. Who cares about anything else? Am I getting stronger? Yes, I'm moving in the right direction.

Okay, so pre-phase for four weeks, then move into phase one. Do the two day week foundational workout when you move into phase one. And if you feed yourself properly, you're gonna see some gains. You're gonna see your buck right. I wanna add to what he just said right there. a week foundational workout when you move into phase one. And if you feed yourself properly, you're going to see some gains. You're going to see your buck grow. I want to add to what he just said right there. It's very important. You understand too

that in order for this muscle to build and grow, you have to feed it in a caloric surplus. We cannot be dialling. Yeah. You got to feed yourself. You got to give extra calories. Otherwise, your body, you're gonna send the signal by lifting properly, and then after you send that signal, the body's gonna go look for the nutrients to go build the muscle, and if it's not there, you're not gonna build it. And it's only gonna be there if you give the body

a surplus of calories. If you're training and you're cutting and you're in a deficit, you're gonna feel a burn in your butt, and you're gonna exercise, and you know, whatever, but you're not and you're cutting and you're in a deficit, you're gonna feel a burn in your butt, and you're gonna exercise and it's, you know, whatever, but you're not gonna grow the butt, which is what our goal is. I have two supplements I think that would probably benefit you. I would find a good protein powder that you can digest well.

You said you're a pescatarian, do you avoid dairy? No, I have it. Is dairy bother you or does it digest okay? Usually bothers me if I have, I would never eat ice cream really. What about paleo valleys? Yeah, so do you avoid beef products for any reason or is it for health? I avoid beef usually, but I eat quite a bit of salmon. Okay, so I would go with the vegan protein

or GANIFI makes a good one. I was gonna advise collagen, but that comes from cow. So they make a good one. So protein powder is good. And then I would take creatine every day, five grams. Five grams of creatine every single day will help you. Just it'll help your health. Anyway, it's good for you.

You'll notice more energy. You'll notice you're probably gonna help with your moods and all that stuff, but it's really good for building muscle, really, really good for... So those two supplements, I think, will help you alongside everything else we did. And if you do what we said, it's going to work. You're going to build muscle, I promise you. This is not a hard thing to solve right now.

Okay. Yeah, I think you said on a previous podcast, you said, back and but to work out if you want to look good, right? Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah, but because you're getting started and because this is new, you're going to train everything. That's going to give you the best result.

So, Maps and Abolix is a perfect program for you. Okay. And then after you run through that circle back with us and then we'll guide you from there because we have even more specific stuff for building, continuing laser focusing. Yeah, that's the foundation for that. Is the start there. That's gonna really start moving you in the right direction. And then we have even more specific programs

when you wanna continue to grow the butt. So. That'd be great. Yeah, so this is exciting. I can do this. All right. Thanks for calling in and thanks for listening to the show. Thanks so much, guys.

You got it. This was, you know, how many times you get clients like this? You know? Oh, it's so easy. And you would clients like this, you know? I don't know, so easy. And you would do like two things and they'd be like, oh my God, what is happening to my body? I mean, hardest part would be adherence, right? So, I mean, the food, but we hit the big things, right?

Yeah, I could, she's very lean, right? You could tell she's lean. So she could probably have no problem reducing calories and staying low calorie. She's gonna have a problem with eating in a surplus. And you gotta understand, you could do all the best butt exercises in the world. If you don't feed the body in a surplus,

the muscle's not gonna grow. No different than the dude wants to build a big chest or shoulders or arms. It's the same thing. Yep, yep, yep. So good luck with that. Look, if you like the show, you can find us on Instagram, MindPunt Media.

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