Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 2126: How Weekends Can Make or Break Your Fitness Success, Weight Training Tips for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Ways to Improve Strength to Be Better at Dance & More (Listener Live Coaching)

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

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All three of you are winners. And the name I just read to iTunes at mindputmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. When constructing your ideal workout plan and diet, you have to factor the following in. Is it realistic? Ideal has to include realistic,

because if it's not something you can sustain, if it doesn't work for your lifestyle, something you hate, well then it's not going to work, you're not going to do it. And then it becomes the worst option. So, when you're looking at your workout plan, when you're looking at your diet, at the top of the list of things you must consider, ask yourself the following. Is this realistic for me, and be honest? What's the thing that you used to say,

a subpar program done consistently is superior to the best program done in consistent. Totally, 100%. Absolutely. I remember, well, let me ask you guys this. When did you figure this out? Because this, I think this is a, this is definitely part of the evolution of a trainer

from like becoming a trainer to becoming more experienced, where you realize this, do you guys remember when that happened? I think it's probably halfway in my career. The first half, it has to be so perfect, I have it all written out. I would say probably you could take it back to when I used to write everything out,

completely to the T, and then I would have that and kind of show my client, here we're gonna go through all this and then you realize, okay, there's interruptions in the workout, there's people that are in the section I wanted to work out at, there's, you know, all these like variables that you had to kind of dance around and then eventually start to learn how to, you know, sort of figure this out and then you can do it without having

to structure it in that way. It was a long time for me because I know I was stuck in making the workout as hard and as creative as possible for a long time. That was like, unfortunately, and I still think this is true today that gym culture kind of like creates that environment. The trainers are all kind of like competitive with each other. They're competitive with how hard the client got pushed. They're competitive with like how unique their programming is or like how unique of an exercise or whatever like new skill or specialty that they have that they're teaching all their clients. Like it's unfortunate, but a lot of training clients in the gym is centered around the

trainers and not so much the client's ideal needs. And it wasn't for a long time. I think that I really start to piece that together and that learning to like give them just the right amount that I know that they could stick to it and then build on that versus trying to cripple them. And the personalities too, I have to mention because that was a big factor I didn't factor in, was like the clients I'd get that were just like,

would refuse to do certain things. And they're just adamant about that. And they said like, we'd battle about it instead of just working in what I know they would actually adhere to and do consistently and then sort of eventually kind of guide them in the direction I was leading them, but it was like, it was so much of like a control thing

for me. Yeah, I had three, like that I could recall, because this is always a learning process. I think if you're a trainer, but there were three like kind of pivotable, pivotals, excuse me moments. One was with diet. Do you guys remember when we used to make meal plans for people early days?

Yeah, I print it out a waste of time. You would like figure out their cat. I totally find the funniest part of the time. The funniest part about that. And I think I think I knew like I know where you're going when we've heard from like so we use the software Apex used to make for the exactly what we're going. And the software was so basic at that point in time. It was such a big deal that you could input all this clients information, and then it could like, you would put like the foods they liked, they don't like, and then it was-

It would make the meal plan. Yeah, it would make this meal plan based off with all this information. It was like, oh my God, it was revolutionary back then. But it was so like, wow, super unrealistic. Because it would be something like this, it would be like three and a half saltine crackers,

one half an orange, and two slices of American cheese. I'm good. Who the fuck is gonna make that for a meal? You know, and I actually remember, for at least, a year or two that I gave all my clients diets like that. A quote, my snack is a quarter of an orange and half a table. You guys can go, yeah. How does that work?

And here's how annoying, because you look back and it's so annoying, right? Like, what was I doing? I would tell the client, like, well, no, just get an orange, eat a quart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You saved the rest. Coaching them on how to actually measure out

your quarter, you know, table spoon. I remember one, ten almonds. Bro, yes, I have, I have. I remember one, ten almonds. Yes. I remember I had one. Specifically, we were trying to hit their fat targets and it gave her like five table spoons of peanut butter. It's like, I'm gonna give you five tablespoons of peanut butter. So ironic too, because, you know, and shame on us for not having this awareness is this

trainer's bet is like, when did you ever eat that? No, I never, never made my meals and cut an orange in a third or the eight, only five and a half saltine crack. No, and that was the first robot. Yeah, that was the first hint. I remember I did the meal plans, I looked at it and the clients said,

who eats like this? I remember thinking like, yeah, that's true. Like, what am I doing? This is not realistic at all. So that was kind of one, you know, hand. The other one was, I remember my trainers were talking crap. We had this great environment when I was a fitness manager just early on, so I'm a kid, right?

But we have these, we'd have this great environment where trainers talk crap. And trainers were comparing how fast their clients were getting success or was successful I got so-and-so lose 20 pounds of this though. Well, I got so-and-so and then one of my older trainers had been doing this for a long time like shaking his head and I said what why you shaking your head You know, I thought he was you know shaking his head because our young trainers talking crap He goes you guys are measuring success wrong

He goes who who here raise your hand if your clients been working out consistently for five years. Nobody raises their hand. And I remember thinking like, oh shit. That's true. I said, because I've seen a lot of people lose time pounds that fast. Yeah, and then gain it right back. And so that was the other piece.

And then the third piece, this was when I became a general manager, one of my mentors, I'll never forget, he was training one of my salespeople and he was doing a tour of the gym. And when you're presenting gym memberships and fitness, you know, one of the struggles is being able to get, really communicate effectively to the potential member, getting them to sign up, higher trainer,

do what's gonna probably give them the most chance of success, but it costs money. It's not cheap. You remember this person saying, oh, I can only work out maybe once or twice a week. And I was waiting for this person who was, like I said, a mentor of mine to do the typical thing where you're like, well, you know, you got to make more time and the more time you spend with fitness, the more time you'll make about the day because you have more energy and he goes, oh, cool, no problem. And I remember him riding out a plan

with one or two days a week. And I'm like, brilliant. And I sat down with him. I'm like, that's brilliant. Like, you don't have an objection anymore. He goes, Sal, not only do I not have an objection, he goes, but what's the worst possible thing that could happen if she shows up one to two days a week consistently every week?

He goes, how many days a week is she working out now? I'm like, oh shit, zero. And he goes, now what's likely to happen if she shows up one to two days a week? I'm like, well, she'll probably eventually come more. So you have to factor this in because if you don't, ideal means nothing. It's not ideal.

What you don't do, if you don't do it, it's the worst possible plan. The one you don't do is the one that doesn't work always, it always doesn't work. So you have to ask yourself those questions, you have to be honest, because I think what everybody does is, right, when they make a goal, especially with fitness, they make a goal, and they become all of a sudden, like they overestimate their, either their abilities or the commitment, and they go, well, yeah, I'm, that's it. I'm throwing all the junk food out. We're only going to eat this. I'm going to the gym every day at 5 a.m. Psych. Okay. This is, that's the, that's the problem with questions like, what's

the best routine for this or what's the fastest way to get that? It's like, even if there is a, solid scientific answer to that question, if it's not what's ideal for you, it doesn't even matter, so relevant. And what a trainer or some fitness influencer online tells you, this is the best for this, this, this, and this. And so then you have people that are debating online that, oh, so and so said, this is the best way, this, well, okay, if that's not something you're going to adhere to for months in and years out,

then it doesn't even fucking matter. It doesn't matter at all. And you have to, you have to factor that part in. And it's interesting to me that we know this right now. We've been doing this for a long time, that there's not a lot of trainer certifications that speak to the behavioral aspect of coaching and training when we learned after doing that for long enough, after all the certifications that all of us have, it's like, yeah, that you need to have that, you need to have some basic knowledge around exercise, nutrition, human physiology, like obviously that's important,

right? But once you get that basic foundation, then most of what you speak to and you teach and you train to, if you're going to be successful, is behavioral stuff. 100%. And then understanding that every client that you get is unique. And that part of the job is figuring out their behavioral tendencies and then how to work with what you got to show them success. And that if I just throw the science

that I learned from my last five national certifications at my client, that there's a more likely not to be successful. Yeah, just for trainers and coaches listening, and even for people looking to learn how to become consistent. When I figured this out, I went from keeping, and I was a successful trainer in the sense that I could sell more training.

I wasn't afraid to talk to people, blah, blah, blah. But I'd say my average client went from being with me for, on average, six months to when I figured this piece out, they didn't leave. They didn't. I had clients who would sign up with me, and they'd be with me for years and years and years. I had one lady with me for nine years, she worked out the same time, same day, every single week. And it was this piece right here,

where I figured out how to make things realistic, how to work and meet the person where they were, how to help push when pushing was necessary, pull back, when that was necessary, but make it something that was more of a lifestyle thing versus a life. No, we got to get to your goal. This is what's going to happen.

And we're going to do it this way. It is not long term successful. And it's very important to understand this. If you want to be successful. It's such an interesting conundrum that I went through with that. In terms of the type of mentality I had as a trainer, trying to keep clients and try to get them the best results. And it was all driven from me when I shifted that mentality and just really tried to work

with them realizing personal responsibility and realizing that this is every step they take, they're taking. They're the one doing the work. They're the one, and I'm trying to prepare them to be off on their own at the very beginning, in terms of empowering them, giving them all of the necessary things to place in front of them, to the point where they'd end up going off on their own. Those are the ones that stayed with me for the lifetime

versus the other ones they would kind of come and go. You know, it's interesting about this. Whenever I talk about this on social media or we do a post that's similar to something like this, there's always the same type of people that push back on this. And I know you're laughing because you know, exactly the kind of person I'm talking about.

It's always the hyper fitness, fanatic, obsessed workout person. And they always say something like, oh, you're not gonna teach excellence this way and you're teaching people to be lazy and you're encouraging it and that's not how you get fit. That's not how this works. It's like, look, if that's you, you live for fitness.

Most people don't live for fitness. Most people use fitness to live. There's a very, very big difference. Now, this is what you love doing. It's your passion. You want to do this all the time, that's fine. But 99% of the people out there it's not going to be their passion. And if you're going to help them develop a long-term relationship with this, it's going to work and improve their lives. Stop talking to them like they're

fanatics or like they're obsessed like you are. It's not going to work. Okay. So let's let's throw a curve ball at this discussion. So we've hammering home to this person that's how important the behavioral aspect and what's ideal for you, right? So there's somebody listening right now who's like, yeah, yeah, I figured that out. What's ideal for me is like, I have my girlfriend that I meet Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or four days a week at my orange theory class that I absolutely do. I skip breakfast and lunch because it's easier for me

to just avoid eating until that four o'clock window. And I'm so consistent with that, it works well, because I meet my girlfriend there always. I just can avoid the food until four o'clock and I eat in this eating window, yet I'm stalling. I don't have results. I don't understand. And I feel like that's the this is what we're talking about.

There's a difference between, you guys, 100% know this, there's a difference between, there's, you can be empathetic, but you also have to be honest. There's a difference between that and like lying. You know, like if a client came to me and said that, well, I think you know why you're stalling. If you really want to make more progress,

here's what needs to happen. It's different than like, no, you're fine. Keep doing it that way. You're stalling because I don't know. You can be honest. I mean, I'd have clients who told me their goal was to lose 30 pounds and it wasn't happening.

I was honest about it when we would talk about it, but it wasn't like I made them feel like idiots for it. It's like, well, you know what you need to do. And when you're ready, we'll do it. And for now, we're doing this. And let's just stay on this track. And that was okay. You just gotta be honest.

Yeah, I think this is where the science knowledge and experience comes in, in addition to the behavioral aspect. Right, so you figure out that piece of like, oh, like finding something that's ideal and that somebody can do habitually. And so they think they find that, but then they're going about it in such an inefficient way

that they're stalling or not seeing cars anymore. I need to be able to communicate to that to them so they understand that what's going on in their body. And like you have to someone understand the science in order to do that, right? Because they're telling you like, hey, behaviorally I figured this out. Like I never miss my orange theory class,

you know, Monday through Friday. I always go and show up. I'm really good about not eating. Now you can make the tweets. Yeah, and now I can start to explain to them that, okay, well, let's look at what's going on here. Because you're skipping all those meals, you're only feeding your body this much nutrition.

You're only getting yourself 50 to 60 grams of protein, okay? You're only eating 1, 1300 calories, you know, it's like, what's happening, right? And then you're going and doing a high intensity type of class. So think about what we're telling the body right now. You're telling the body that you're going to push the shit out of it. You're going to feed it hardly anything. Even though you're weight training and you think you're sitting a signal for the body to build muscle, you're not getting it the adequate tools to actually build. So there's, we got to find some sort of a happy medium with what it is you love to do that you know,

you'll you'll you'll continue to do. And then also understanding that there's science involved in this, that if you're not feeding the body properly, you're not giving it adequate rest. We're overstressing it. It's not going to respond well. You know, it's along those lines that this is important to consider because you created a this obviously a fictional example.

But the reality is if you work out and train appropriately, which means it's effective for you and efficient, you're more likely to be consistent, okay, because it feels good, right? Like the example you gave of that person, probably is ignoring a lot of signals. She probably doesn't feel very good. Things aren't working for her.

She's kind of forcing herself to do certain things with the clients I've had before. But if you do things right, you're also more likely to stick to it because it feels, I hate to use word effortless because it's not effortless, but it's effortless in comparison to how many people have experienced working out in the past.

This is, I love this one. I would hear this from clients is, when we finally do things right, they'd come and be like, this is weird, I'm losing weight, and I feel like I'm not, I'm like working half as hard. I'm like, well, you're not spinning your tires on the dirt, that's the difference.

The differences we're doing this the right way. So that plays a huge role, is the effectiveness and efficiency of the plan that you have. Yeah, and I definitely think there's a bit of a difference of what how we opened up with that type of a client that we're trying to kind of start building a structure and in good behaviors, like almost like a beginner, where we're kind of learning what their tendencies are, what they've done

in the past and like kind of like implementing certain things for them to build upon those better behaviors versus somebody that's coming in that is doing all of this excess work in that example. And, you know, they think that they're doing all these magical things, but it's like, this isn't working for me. So that's where you have to have a real honest conversation is like, this isn't working. Right. Right. And so we can use that energy and that work and all that, all of those behaviors that you think are benefiting you, we could just, you know, change them a bit so they look different and then this will actually foster a better result. Totally.

I mean, that's why I wanted to throw that curve ball because I know there's somebody that's thinking that way. You know, another way to sell it along the points that you just made right now too, is that like you think you love doing this because of those few aspects. I mean, my girlfriend for lunch, you'll go do this and I love the feeling of the high energy with the music of the high energy with the music and the burns. Like, you know, what if I told you you could eat more food

and train less hard and actually see more results? Do you think you would love that as much or more? And a lot of times when you say it and present like that, it's like, oh, okay. So you're enticing things. Yeah, it's like, sure, I say I love all these things, but the reality is, if I was able to put less effort in and actually feed my body more, and I would actually see more physical change in results,

yeah, I think I would probably like that just as much or more. And if you could communicate that to them, that lightbulb sometimes will go off like, okay, I'm listening now. What does it look like? The magic formula for consistency for what I found with my clients was one, were the results feel adequate in comparison to the effort? In other words, if you start to feel like you're putting way more effort than you're getting back, then you get people not wanting to continue. But if they get results and they can look at their

effort and be like, wow, actually the results are better than the effort I'm putting in. That's a great piece of the formula. The second one is, can they find some way to enjoy the process? Okay, so what is it that they can enjoy about the process? And for some people, I'm not gonna lie, for some people, it was the environment

that I created in my studio. It's that people showed up and we had this great environment I knew it. I was very aware of it and I used it because I'm like this is helping people be consistent She likes to show up because she gets to see the same people You know every Monday and Wednesday at 9 am we have great conversation. There's nothing wrong with that But for other people it's you know, I feel less stiff or actually like the music I listen to or lead intensity or whatever So there has to be some level of enjoyment of the process. And then last is does it feel like it improves their life

every time, not sometimes every time. And that means they have to know how to adjust their workouts. So if the person feels tired or stressed, are they avoiding the workouts? Cause like, oh, I don't wanna do more. Oh man, I'm too tired to do that. Or is it like, oh, I know how to adjust the workout

cause I feel tired and stressed. And that's gonna help me out. When you configure those three things out, you have the formula for success, long-term consistency, and success. Anyway, I wanna read you guys something that I read this morning. That funny or serious?

Funny. So part of it, I, part of guys something that I read this morning. That funny or serious? Funny. So part of it, I, part of it made total sense to me. The other half, the other, the second part, I had to think about it and I have to say, I think it's also true. Okay, so here's the first one. There's, there's two unspoken rules when it comes to strength. Okay, this is the, the tweet.

The first one is you can be a good deadlifter or a good presser, but not both. That makes sense, if you think about it, kind of makes sense. The second one, this one was funny. You can have a great grip or you can have great calves, no exceptions. Okay, so let's talk about this. Wait, wait, wait, wait, okay.

The first one does make sense, because the long arm's short arm thing. Yeah, so let's talk about that first before we get to the second one. The second one was where I got stuck and I thought about it. Yeah, you, okay. The first one does make sense, because the long arm, short arm thing. Yeah, so this time about that first, before we get to the second one. Because the second one was where I got stuck, and I thought about one. Yeah, you got me stuck on the second one. So the first one, you either pull good or you push good,

and this is true because of leverage. Leverage, yeah. Like what makes you good at deadlifting is longer arms, kind of longer torshoes, strong grip, big hands. What makes you good at pressing the leverage is shorter arms, barrel, kind of body. So it's all about leverage, right?

So if you're like exceptional at bench pressing, you're probably not great at deadlifting and vice versa. So that's a leverage thing, everybody knows that. The second one's weird though. Think about all the people you know with like really strong grips, think of their calves, and then think about really people with like

genetically amazing calves, and then think of their grips. Every time I think of somebody, I'm like, I think that's true, dude. Is that weird? Yeah, but is that just a bias that you have? Because I can't, I can't, I don't know. I don't know.

Your point you're making with the deadlift is very obvious. Yeah, that's a whole leverage. But I can't, I can't connect. Cause I would, I would follow in a category So at one point I had incredible incredible grip strength. You got great grip strength and a terrible cap That's right. So I'm a grip guy too. Oh, so you're saying so you have one of the other All of you have good grip. Oh interesting either you have a good grip and small calves or you have great Well, so the guy with it. So okay, so I picture okay, so maybe this is the direction you're going so the guy with it, so okay, so I picture, okay, so maybe this is the direction you're going.

So the guy with the big old monster calves, I picture like short stubby little fat fingers. Well, me. I do. I don't know why. When I think of like the most massive like genetic calves, like not like necessarily, I do a lot of work to get those just just great big calves. I think of like short fat stubby. Well, I mean, like you and I are group guys.

Our calves are on the great. Justin's got great calves. His grip is not as strong as I mean, strong grip, not as strong as ours. So I was thinking of, and I thought about all the people I know. Am I not a puller? And you're also a presser in that puller. That's weird.

I don't, that falls in line though on both of those. That's the point of that. I know, I'm good pressure, you're not as good of a puller. I want feedback on this, because I want people with like big calves to I want people with big calves to comment, and people with small calves to comment. Who do you see to lead this? It's been going viral.

People are sharing it a lot of the place. Yeah, because think of, I don't know, I'm thinking of construction. All the guys with crazy strong grip, and then big forearms, and trying to think of their calves. I don't know. Because of the male carriers, they got the crazy calves. But then I don't know. Because of the male carriers,

they got the crazy calves, but then I don't know. But I think a grip is big. Yeah, like, yeah. It's like, on their grip in the low, in the low, in the low, they're gonna drive anything over 10 pounds or fuck.

It's almost like you're emphasizing the most on like a consistent basis. I'm also thinking leverage there too though, right? Because like, part of having a strong grip is also having big, someone with big long fingers and hands can have a stronger grip. That's just leverage.

But is there like a correlation between that and like smaller calves? I don't know. I thought it was funny though, cause I thought about people and I'm like, that person, I'm trying to think in, like something that has amazing calf and has a really strong grip.

But it's kind of like, it might hold true. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I mean, like I said, yeah, I have a picture, I picture somebody who's got the big old cows and I don't see like this like crazy grip. I'm gonna totally pay attention on that one. I know people.

I'm gonna get tested. Yeah, I do. I'm gonna get the cows in the mall working on my grip. I'm gonna get these guys. Hey man, I tried with the cows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the benching and the pulling or the pressing and the pulling, that pressing and the pulling,

that's obvious. Yeah, and this is a good thing to talk about too, because, especially when I was a kid, I would look at one person versus another. That person's got more muscle. Why aren't they as strong as that person? Vice versa. A lot of things playing to strength.

One of them's muscle, another one, this is a big one is leverage. Leverage plays a huge role. Who said it? Our comedies, if you could, with is leverage. Oh yeah. Leverage plays a huge role. Who said it? Our comedies, if you could, if you could, with enough leverage, you can move the world. Yeah, with enough pulleys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's, that's just, in fact, like, so when you talk about something like deadlifting, which is very much so a leverage exercise. Oh, oh, yeah. If you have super long arms, it's very advantageous for, for deadlifting. And not so much for squatting, right? Or doing, if you have long limbs, and then you're a squatter, it's not ideal, or a bencher, it's not ideal.

There's also leverage with muscle attachments. So think of it this way, right? Like think of where the peck attaches at the humerus. If the peck attaches lower on the humerus, well now you got more leverage. So you could, that also could give you just, a little bit of advantage. I mean, a little bit goes a long way when you're looking at a lever, like think of holding a broomstick

from the very end and move your hand forward just a couple inches. Well, don't you think that's what this is what makes the outliers, right? Yes. The guy who benches a thousand pounds is a little crazy is not only does he have short arms, but then he has a longer insertion of a pec insertion than the average person who's short like that. So he gets the benefits of kind of both, right? And then you have the central nervous system. It's ability to fire with force can be trained, but they're also, I'm sure there's also

a genetic component there, right? See, that's kind of like the way my brain's going to figure out the calf and grip thing. Because it's like maybe the priority is a central nervous system, is either gonna shove one more or wear the other, that was like, yeah, you have one or the other.

Can I just think, so it is, opposite all that cow-balking fuck me, I'm saying, you're, you're brain, your brain's like prioritize, prioritize, prioritize. It's just,

it was pruning neurons from your calves, disconnect the calves, see those, this guy's, we need strong hands with this guy's speculation. I love this though, because when I was a kid, I didn't fully get it, you know, in the gym, because you see some dudes lifting, you're like, how's that happen? What's going on or whatever? And then I remember, we talked about this guy recently, Anthony Clark, he passed away, he was a power lifter. I think one of the first men to bench press seven her pounds.

And I remember looking at a picture of him, I was like 16 years old, I subscribed to Powerlifting magazine, I think it was called. And I looked at him and I saw his bench and I'm like, well, holy shit, his arms and hell is short, he's got a big old wide body. And I said, well yeah, he's a four inch big.

Yeah, dude, he could be a teleborg. We could be a way better bet. Tell them more. We can bet. We've, you know, way better leverage. I know. I know. It's good thing to consider too, because we, people compare themselves against other people. And, I mean, unless you're twins, like, it's not, it's not fair. Yeah. It's, you know, it's totally not fair. It's pretty rare that you see somebody who's like, you know, like an incredible pusher and a puller. Almost everybody has got, you know, one of them that they have. I mean, you can, and then again,

this becomes more evident, the more extreme you are in your particular. So if you have like an exceptional deadlift, then the, I guess the offset with the bench is gonna be even bigger. And then somebody seems to see, you know, general, kind of overall with the strength and stuff, but anyway, I thought that was hilarious.

Adam, did you know, you have to know this. You have all of us, you got to know this. That's here. Do you know the FedEx story? The guy who founded FedEx and how they almost went under and how he pulled himself out? I do know this story, but I can't think of it right now. I'm gonna pull it up. Okay, okay.

I just read it and I'm like, this is great. It's a great story. Let me, uh, dude. Bro, it's hilarious. Do we not talk about this at an early mind pump days? I don't know. I feel like that's the story that we talked about a long time ago. Yeah.

Give it to me and see if I can finish the story. This is literally what you should not do. If you're an entrepreneur and your business is about to go under, but it's also pretty awesome. Yeah, you did something. Come on. So I'll read, in 1973 FedEx had $5,000 in the bank and a $24,000 fuel bill.

So the founder, Fred Smith, he couldn't get alone fast enough. So here's what he did. He took his 5 grand of Vegas. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He won $27,000 playing back to the 27 grand, playing Blackjack. That's always the joke, right?

Like I've heard people like in that situation, I'm just gonna go to Vegas. What, it worked? He won 27 grand, came back, and now FedEx just took off from there. It took off then. Now I think the balls, I do remember that. I think I brought that story up years ago,

because that's an old, obviously old story. And I had a trainer who worked for me, that worked for FedEx, and I think that's actually how I found that story out from the, like originally, is I know I knew that story, I thought it was crazy. Now imagine if you're his friend, and he tells you he's gonna,

at least like, do my business is tanky, I'm just gonna take my money, go to Vegas. And you'd be like, what are you doing? You are the stupidest person on our irresponsible whole. I mean, he comes back, I want to play CyberGrid. You're the man. I wonder how many people have actually tried that, like been that desperate before?

I know that's like one of the, like, when you read the... I'm sure way more fails in success. They, the gambling, like, they have like a big old thing of like, you know, to, like a warning, right? In all casinos. And I know if you read the whole thing in there, it's like one of the things is like,

do not gamble to pay your bills or whatever like that. Like, it's actually on the thing. You guys know anybody that's made a fortune gambling? Like legit. Well, I've met several professional gamblers. When I would gamble, what do they play? It's always poker, right? Yeah, poker's, yeah.

Yeah, because, well, not all professional slump player. But most, yeah, I've never, yeah, I've never met a, I don't know if that, does that even exist? Is that really a thing? Cause there's, there's legitimate strategy involved in poker, right? Yeah, I've never met a, I don't know if that does that even exist? Is that really a thing? Because there's, there's legitimate strategy involved in all ladies and poker. Right? Yeah, I like.

There's legitimate strategy in that. Um, you know, because you can be good. Yeah. It's not just chance. And when I've actually sat and talked with them like the, and I've learned a lot sitting and watching professional poker players and that the one thing that I have put together that's most common is patience. Mm-hmm. Is you's most common is patience.

Is you have to have unbelievable patience. You have to be able to just fold a bunch of times. Yeah, you just, so I mean, I don't know how you know, if you know how Texas Holden works or what that, but you only got to put money in to see your cards if you're the front two. So there's a table of nine people. Bigger small blind.

Yeah, if you're the bigger, small blind, you have to put money to see your cards. Everybody else gets to see their cards without actually risking any money. So if you play statistically, like only when I have a good, good cards, A's King, a pair above whatever, like suited and numbers close, like there's a whole host of like what would be considered

percentage wise Statistically a good hand you fold all the rest and then you add in the in fact the other Element which is learning to work and play the table and the players and patiently waiting for the the guys that are the what's what they call the What do they call the sucker, you know the fish? Yeah, so we were waiting for the person who's just gambling like an idiot to basically take their money. That's really the impatient one on the table for the most part. They're like all like shark them. Yeah, and I figure that out. And I've had times where, you know, I've like stopped to it and been really good and disciplined,

but you could be easily sitting there for like hours, not getting to play a hand and you're just folding and folding and folding. And wait, I mean, hours sitting in a table and not actually getting to play at all. So you know, some, you know, people that did this with you for a living. That's what you call professional poker players. Oh, yeah. You go, you did okay. Yeah. Yeah. Make good money. Wow. Oh, yeah. Make really good money. If you're, I mean, I don't think you should be able to consider yourself a professional poker player unless you can make a living off of, off of actually doing it. Otherwise, you're just a sucker. You're a sucker yourself. You know, you're going to be a professional poker player. You can't make, but five grand of you are going to say like, not bro, you're a sucker. You're not the professional player.

Yeah. And that's just it. They will, they come in and I've talked to them. So they would tell me things like this. Like, so here's some strategies. They intentionally, they intentionally will hit the tables. I've literally like gambled 24 hours, like through the night, like multiple times before playing poker and stuff. And so I get a chance to meet. And they, the, all the, the, like the pros come in, they show up around like midnight or or one. They're waiting for the drunk people. They're waiting for all the drunk people to take their fatigue. They're waiting for all the clubs to close and the drunks to come out and just like, you know, yeah, willy-nilly throw throwing.

They want to be in the table for like an hour or so before to kind of work and get in their flow and get warmed up see how the cards are flowing their way and stuff like that. And they're just patiently waiting for all those sucker bets to come sit in, and then they have rules. Like, once I make X amount of money for a night, I walk away, no matter what. No matter how hot I am at that time with that, I have a rule.

Have a psychology of a professional gambler has to be unique, right? Because I'm sure there's, overall throughout the year, if you're good, you come out positive. But there's gotta throughout the year, if you're good, you come up positive. But there's gotta be periods of time within that year where you're down, but you gotta be okay and calm and not panic and try to compensate type of deal.

I would imagine. Yeah, no, I've shared this with my sports gambling before I have rules and strategies towards betting. When I stick to them, I'm pretty damn successful, but you have to be disciplined and also have the balls to do this, right? So if I'm betting, let's say, just for the analogy reasons, let's say $100,

and I lose, I gotta be willing the next bet to go to $200. When I lose again, I gotta be willing to go to $400. When I lose again, I gotta be willing to go $800. When I lose the $800, I gotta be willing to go $1,600. So every, and I'm sticking to my rules on what I'm betting on, like statistically, if I'm constantly doubling what I'm willing to risk,

then I finally hit, let's say it takes three of those wrong guesses, and by the fourth one, I finally hit, well that makes sense. You could be down for tons of money. Yeah, you might have to be able to go, you have to be able to go down a certain amount, which is why too I think like when you play games

like Crap's, the Fear gets fixed. Based off the, and I know there's books on this, right? So like based off of what the minimum table bet is, there's a certain amount of money that you should come in with. And I used to tell my friends that we're like kind of like casual gamblers with like Crap's when we be playing together and be like, well, you're so crazy you come in with like $5,000 in this table I've only got like I only want a gamble a couple hundred dollars I'm like you're gonna lose that because you have to be willing to take the losses

You got to be willing to go down. Yeah, because when you when the minimum bet is $25 and you come in with a hundred fifty dollars The odds of you I mean then you mean, then you're banking on, as soon as I get there, I'm gonna get some sort of a hot streak. So many turns. Yeah, you're not waiting for the ebb and flow, the natural ebb and flow of the game. You have to have enough, you have to be able to go deep enough

to go through the downturn and the valley to in order to ride the wave up or the peak. And so, there is, there's a mathematical formula to like how much you should come into a minimum table bet in order to be able to do that. Well, interesting. Well, since we're talking about gambling, this will be an easy transition. Do you guys know about the cocaine that was found in the White House? Yeah, yeah. Who is responsible now? I mean, it's like, what's the latest? They mean, it's just, so here's, this is so funny. They ended the investigation because they couldn't figure out who's it was.

Whoa. We can't check the cameras. It's just a mystery. Can I just say some? It's bullshit. Okay, name a building with more surveillance than the White House. Okay. How much bullshit can we be fed?

You know the problem is, they have too many people doing cocaine and they can't figure out who that was. They go back to look at care, it's like, fuck, Steve was doing a line that day, but Richard was doing a line that day. Everybody was doing it, everybody was here. Yeah, we don't want everybody getting trouble.

That, they found out and they called the man like, hey, we found out it was your cocaine here, you go take it, don't lose it again. Yeah, yeah they found out and they called them in like, Hey, we found out it was your cocaine. Here you go. Take it. Don't lose it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is hilarious. This is like when when Epstein, you know, they died. Everybody's like, what happened? It's such a mystery. This is one of the most served. I bet they have cameras in there. It could tell you how many times you farted and they can't see who left cocaine in an area where people this is crazy. Is there a statistic, Andrew Doug, on what percentage of politicians do drugs?

How would you know? I mean, it would be self-reported. You know, that's like over that number then? No, no politician, wow, there are politicians, he's gonna share that, but I'm sure there's been plenty of like biographies that have been put out later on where someone talked about stuff like, you don't think that's like the stat we could think about.

I don't think I think it's an estimation, but I don't know. What do you get? What do you got? You know, it says many prominent politicians have turned a drug to alcohol as stress management mechanisms. Yeah. There's 10 politicians linked to cocaine. But I mean, I would speculate that that's like when you think of professional sports, politicians like actor Hollywood actors and actresses, I would think that politicians would be right up there with some of the highest drug of course.

Oh, and be super. Everything from trying to manage stress to try to access to sleep and just access access access to. I mean, I think politicians are up there for any bad habits. Yeah, I just don't think they're the best of the best. I think they have great moral care. No, let's just put that away. There's very few. They may exist. But for me, I remain skeptical. Now, even I used to get into that bad, or that argument with Brendan, when Brendan and I would talk with that, he would try and say to me that there's like,

I would be like, wait, there are no politicians that are coming into this with, they did not become a politician to- The angels don't get elected. Yeah, to do good for the world. Like you just got closed on whatever their sellers. What do you, bro? That's what I would say.

When you're in the business of trying to make everybody like you, I, I, and you're good at it. And you're not gonna be honest. And you're in the business of trying to make everybody like you, and you're good at it, you're not going to be honest. And you're good at it, right? You're good at it. Like you just got sold. That's all it is. It's just like they're, I mean, they wouldn't be a successful politician if they weren't good at convincing people that they're not professional manipulating. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And that's why they say that politicians are just actors that weren't good enough, good looking enough to make it Hollywood. Well, you never heard that. No, I'm not. No, there's so there's a lot of examples of that right at the highest level of actors that make it into the

Office right? Even Zalinsky was a actor. It is so this this cracks me up because it reminds me of like when Like the it's like self investigation Like the FBI investigated themselves and found, no, no wrongdoing. Or you know, the IRS checked on themselves and it looks like everything they're doing is perfect. All right, dude, like who's investigating this cocaine in the White House, the people in the White House? Right.

Who's like when you got to correct your own homework, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, remember those days? Yeah, you go across. All right, guys, grade your own test. Oh, looks like I got an A plus. Do you guys remember that when you had your grade your own test. Oh, look like I got an A plus. Do you guys remember that when you had your great your own test? The joy is give yourself like one or two

of them. Of course, everybody. Yeah, everybody who did it, you know what I'm saying? And then you get, and you're really smart when you know that what teachers do that time, you're like, I'm not gonna fill in the answer. I'll just wait until I'm having to correct it. I'm still letting some of the answers then.

Like, have you seen like the, I don't know if the, the Senate or like the House of Representatives, they're basically grilling a lot of FBI right now and they're, it's funny to me because it just looks like it's for public display. You know, and it's like, oh, we're keeping them accountable, but like all they're doing is like, yeah, I'm not aware of, or like I can't comment on that. And that's like all the answers you're gonna get. Right?

And then it's your senator just throwing all these like, you know, haymakers at them and trying to sound like, we're really getting them. And it's all just like, it's like, flagellation is what it reminds me of. Like, it's not real. But it's not real. Here's what I, there's no consequences.

I'll tell you what I think. I think this very strongly, I would bet money on it in a way to prove it. But after September 11th, they passed laws, I mean, explicitly where the government can and does, it's now, it's been established, record every piece of electronic communication. They can go through emails, they can go through your searches, they could, all that stuff without judge, trial or jury. So no warrant, they could do all that. Now, once that passed, I remember I was talking with a client of mine and we were talking about this

and he goes, you know what's gonna happen with this? I said, what? He said, they're gonna collect everything on all these politicians and now they're gonna be able to get them to do whatever they want. Because it's gonna be very easy for them to be like, you're sure, because I got this, I got that. You're sure about, you don't want it.

And so it becomes the ultimate tool for manipulation because they have all the data. And think about it, if they followed anybody around and recorded everything, they could put something together for pretty much anybody, especially for your politician. For sure. You know, so I know. That's the correct deal. Along the lines of tools and manipulating that type of stuff. I actually wanted to ask all three of you this because you all have teenagers, right?

Have you guys talked to them or asked them like what's happening with like school with like chat GPT and stuff like that? Like are they, do your kids talk about it or bring it up to you or do you hear anything? My oldest is, huh? So you do hear it. So I talked to them about that.

And like he knows of like some friends that have tried to turn in homework using it. And I mean, sometimes they might get away with things, but then the teacher goes back over it and then they bring it up. And they'll bring them in. They'll talk. So they're, I think at least the teachers are are pretty aware of like the usage of it. And like. And so sometimes they'll actually take some of those questions that they're trying to answer, like create a paper out of, and it'll do it themselves, and then check and look at a very similar result.

So then it's a red flag. It's happening a lot in colleges, but the college students are smarter about how they prompted. And also put it forward. They'll change it enough. So that's what I'm hearing. So I know of somebody who did.

Yeah, at that level, I'm sure it's harder to detect. I know somebody who did the last half of their homework for a particular class, almost all through chat GBT and got a great grade and nobody knew. Really? Yeah. Wow. Does Breeze say anything?

She doesn't really talk about it. I do think kids are trying to use it. They have to be, I mean, we're like a bunch of old funny duddies and we use it. That you gotta know that they're like, they're super privy to all that stuff, right? Yeah, and I mean, what you expect? I mean, I was trying to get cheat codes on my,

a little calculator, you know, I was like, you know, when you could like, save and store formulas. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I figured that out the first time, like, you know what I mean like, you know, when you could like save and store formulas. I'm like, I figured that out the first time. Like, that's what I mean. Like, when you're a kid like that, you're normally way ahead of us, one stuff like that. Like as soon as that stuff hit the market,

I bet they were already playing. Like that's why I was wondering like, how much your kids are like divulging it and like how much of them are actually like already using it and not telling you like, if you notice any of that stuff. Like, because we, I felt like when at first hit, we were talking about it a lot, and there was like, all this, like, oh, what are we going to do? And teachers are now going to back to pencil and writing in person and all

this stuff like that, like getting rid of the print, the printing out, like, but then it kind of went silent. I haven't heard, but yet I'm seeing it progress even more. So from my perspective of using it, it's getting better and better and more usage, and I'm seeing more application for it. So I gotta think that. This reminds me of like the Olympic Committee

trying to catch athletes who are, you know, yeah, it's like, they first have to figure out what people are using before they could test for it. Yeah. And then it's always cat and mouse. I mean, do you guys remember? It's gonna continue to be that way. I mean, high school, when we were, obviously it was,

this was back analog, right? Analog days, but I remember, you know, I had friends who would cheat, they would write, they would write the answers on the bottom of their shoe. And another buddy that, add another buddy who figured out, the clear pens, you know, the pens with like the clear casing or whatever, he figured out how to write really, really small

on a piece of paper, roll it up and put it in the pen. And so you can literally look at it and then the pen, that's hilarious. Magnified it a little bit because of the plastic. That's like, brilliant. You deserve a good grip. Yeah, it is. It's a great idea. I've seen a guy write all his answers as like sunglasses.

I'm like, I can't believe the teacher didn't tell him to take sunglasses. Yeah, that's what he did. I feel like if it's a really good one and I was a teacher and I kind of be like, you know what? I'm not gonna say anything about that. That's pretty good. Oh, right. But we're like an asshole.

You're gonna do okay. You know, you're gonna be all right. Yeah, that's a great, that's gonna be a politician. You get outside the box like that. You're gonna be all right. I never tell you guys about the one politician that making the weather temp they ever did at cheating. That was a school.

The one attempt I did I wrote was like an idiot, right? Cause I was like, oh, I'm gonna write the formula on the palm of my hand. Yeah. So I wrote it on the palm of my hand. And then the test comes and I'm nervous because I'm cheating, so my head's sweaty. And I open my hand, it's like, oh,

oh, but, like, fuck it. Oh, no! I can't even cheat, right? I'm trying to figure out what I wrote. Oh, I couldn't read half of it. Oh, man. Yeah, so it was all swadding. Do you go, I mean, I, so I have almost 100% moved away

from Google and use ChatGBT. All right. Yeah. It took me a little bit of practice, right? And so now it's in my, on my phone is like, you know, when you open up, like, you know, Safari or what that, it's like right away when I go to open up the, the website for ChatGBT opens up now.

And so I've just trained myself when I think I'm gonna go Google search something. I'm like, wait a second, how would I prompt ChatGBT to get me what I'm looking for? And it's better. I should certainly, yeah, I was better. I used it a few times just to see what it would do.

And then that was it, like I abandoned it. Well, you know, like Google's turned into like such an ad machine that when you Google search a topic or some, whatever, what you want to learn or read about, I have to first scroll down the first 10 because the first 10 are all ad, they're paid to be up that high.

And then I'm looking for the highest one that's not paid. And then I have to read it to see if it lines with exactly what I'm asking. And sometimes it's the second or the third one. And so but ChatGbT goes right to what I want. You hear about the guy he took, because I guess there's what are they called plugins where you could modify or whatever.

He made something, and it's publicly available, through ChatGBT, where you could take a picture of anybody and a little bit of a recording of their voice. So, and guys apparently are doing this with women. They'll take a picture of them, recording of their voice a little bit, and then it makes you an AI girlfriend. So now it's, you know, the person, how creepy, that you'd be.

Yeah, and you can talk to that. And you're like obsessing over the soul. Yes. Yeah, dude. And he demonstrated it with his own girlfriend. Would you understand, like, how dangerous this is the society like to do stuff like that? Bro, that's weird.

Yeah. That's super creepy. That's super creepy. It's creepy and scary in the fact that like, we already, look at the, where we're heading with like the pornography and erectile dysfunction and boys like just locking themselves in the room.

Like now they can basically build a digital version of the girl that they've been masturbating to for the last three years. Like it's like that talks to them and makes them extra, bros is real real bad, dude. This is like, like every parent's gonna have to take the doors off of their kids, like door off their bedrooms now.

It's like wizardry, if you think about it, you gotta always cut somebody's hair and then this. Oh, you know, like, this is like moving the girlfriend. What was that movie, Weird Science? Oh yeah, Weird Science. Yeah, it is Weird Science, dude. It's full circle, yeah.

That's, by the way, every teenage boy's Science. Yeah. It is Weird Science, dude. It's full circle, yeah. That's it. By the way, every teenage boy's dream is to be able to create his own girlfriend. Yeah, sure. One like that. Now we made it real. Like, this is not a good idea, everybody. It's a terrible idea.

So a terrible version of the AI. So you saw the, what's his name that had the song that came out Drake? Yeah, yeah. So the AI and the combo and the mashup. So they did a terrible, I'm like, oh, no. There's this potential, right? So they had Johnny Cash and singing Barbie Girl.

Oh, come on. What? Yes, dude, and I'm like, oh, and it was like, it was good. No, but it was awful, but it was like, literally sounded like his voice and he did it to, I don't know if it was like literally sounded like his voice and he, he did it to, I don't know if it was walked the line, but it was one of those songs. Bro, speaking of Barbie, so you know Barbie the movie's out, right?

Yeah. What's the girl's name that played, Margot Robbie? Mm-hmm, plays Barbie? Yeah. Did you guys see what went viral on Twitter? No, it's her. So some dude, I don't know, some guy got on there. First of all, internet guys are internet guys or people are just ridiculous.

He gets on there and he posts a picture of her. And I can't, apparently he's a picture of her with no makeup or whatever. And he goes, she's mid at best. I don't know if you guys know what the term mid means. Mid is like a slight, like you're not hot, you're like an average. She's mid at best, whatever.

And it created, Margot Robbie. Okay. And it created this huge uproar because all these dudes were on there a green Yeah, and I'm like, I'm just simps so hard, bro. These are guys trying so hard for yourself. Yeah, oh, you're no It's just too pointy or you're smoking hot. Yeah, I can't it's so and so you got all these women defending You're like she's like we do talk about she's super hot like why are we arguing with this? You know every guy who said that is full of shit Yeah, I mean now you don, you can't believe anything online.

Like have the stuff that people say or do online. I've shared that. Well, they're just, the things that we're happening right now in the younger generation with, for TikTok and just to go viral stuff is like, I showed you guys that, that clip. I think Andrew was telling me that this has been a thing that's been going on for a while.

I'd never seen by a dude this, But like, you know, this older dude, probably in his 50s or what that is sitting listening to music on his phone or he's got his headphones in. And the kid walks over and just snips it. I know. And he's recording it for TikTok. Those kind of videos make me so angry. Oh, so mad.

So mad. And just getting away with it. With the dick. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Oh man, and you want inside of you, you want like, I want him So mad. So mad. And just getting away with it. With the dick. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Oh man. And you want inside of you, you want like, I want him to give us a speed. I had another AI thing I wanted to ask you, but before we do, what are our partners today? Well, no, actually, let me go, let me go there for a second.

I just pulled up a study. We're going to be talking about Ned, which is our hemp oil company, but I pulled up a study. I think this is a pretty groundbreaking study in the world of cannabinoids. So we used to think for a long time, and I think a lot of people still think this, that the THC CBD other cannabinoid content really is what determines whether or not

somebody likes a strain or not. In the study they found that that didn't make that big of a difference at all, what made the difference was terpenes. Interesting. Is that cause the flavor and the smell and all that more? That why?

The combination of terpenes with cannabinoids seems to be what makes a strain feel sluggish, energetic. Oh, so not just feelings. It's other things too. Yeah, like the effects, the turpings, they provide different characteristics. Yeah, so like someone will be like, oh, I like the strength, cause it gives me energy.

And this strain of, gives me, makes me sleepy. And they think it's the THC and this and that, like, no, no, it's the turpings. So that's wild, because that's been marketed the opposite for so long. For ever, if you go to any cannabis club, you know, you have, if it's high indica, they push it on the sleep, you know, I'm saying if it's low, low, then it's going to be this or if it's

a hybrid, it's a, like, they, it's market balance. Yeah. And I remember, you know, there were certain strains that just make me feel good. Now, are there, okay, so along those lines, are there, are there more, are there some parallels though that, you know, typically if it's high indica, it has these types of terpenes in it, therefore, so it does a lot. I don't read that in the study, but I would, I would assume so. Yeah, I would imagine it's somewhat aligned to Ross that would have been thrown out

a long time ago, right? Exactly. Because there's got to be some truth to higher indicators. They're just doing the wrong correlation. I would, I would, I agree with that. But, um, so with this points to is the, you want the whole plant for the effect. So, so Ned has hemp oil extract,

and what they don't do is take out the CBD, take out the cannabinoids, isolate it, here you go. It's the whole plant. You got the turpines in there, you have all the cannabinoids, all of it together, and this is probably why the feedback we get is I've never felt a CBD product before this one I feel it's all those things it's you know it's interesting that you say this because it's like can you think of a

Anything found in nature that is healthier and better for us isolated and concentrated or taken out from The thing and the whole version of it is not would not be healthier and better for us I can't think of anything. It's already balanced in the plant. Yeah, you know, it's weird is Yeah, there's a lot of out there's a lot of Examples of that sugar is a good one. Yeah, fine sugar in nature usually paired with fiber. Yeah, oh yeah Usually paired with fiber you almost never find yeah Like I guess I brought sugar itself is a is a no I brought the now that analogy up before if you were to have if you were to eat the amount of sugar and sugar cane that is compared to what's in a soda right so the same amount

of sugar that's in a soda in its natural form in sugar cane it would be it's like six to eight feet of sugar cane. You know one the amount of calories you would burn chewing that would probably cancel out. Yeah, the amount of fiber that you get, like it would negate it. So I like it when people bring up honey, because it's like, what about honey? Honey's a pure sugar source. You gotta get through bees, homie.

Yeah, it doesn't come with that much need. Because, you know, they have to move rapidly all day long. Like so that was the other thing is like, like hummingbirds and do like, and there's like sugar, you know, from what they get that instant hit because they're acceleration and, but it's in short spurts, it's like all these sprints.

You think about how that all comes out. And you address honey different too, like we don't find honey the way it was found in nature either. Like we actually put them in a box and we force them to create all these honeycombs so we can get in bulk. And you actually, yeah, if you were to go knock it off a tree somewhere

and you wouldn't find nearly as much notchable honey inside there. And what they typically do is eat the honeycomb. Yeah. They're not taking the honey off the honeycomb. You gotta climb some tree. You gotta have some balls to fight off some bees or something. We manipulated all fruit to produce these like bigger,

more fruit to us like driven type of a product, but it was like always like smaller, more bitter, a lot more fiber. Yeah, so like again, if you take, you could extract the cannabinoid, concentrate the shit out of it and get yourself stoned as hell. But in nature, it's typically found with lots of other things, that balance things out.

And the cannabinoids are like this in the hemp plant. If you just take CBD studies will show this. CBD by itself has some effects. CBD in combination with other cannabinoids and terpenes found in the hemp plant. Now you see, they call it the entourage effect. Now you see the anti-inflammatory effects are pronounced, the health effects are more pronounced, the sleep effects more pronounced. All the things that, like for example CBD is supposed to do. Well, now back to the AI conversation

and it aligns with us talking about food and nutrition too, because have you guys seen the new AI tool to actually look at food and be able to calculate everything? No, what? Yeah, yeah, look at that. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, so that's gonna be, what do you mean like at food and be able to calculate everything. No, what? Yeah, yeah, look at that stuff. Cool. Yeah, yeah. So that's going to be like a picture.

And that's it. Yes. And now be able to macros calories everything. So that's, I forget the name of the, maybe nature coaches, duck to look up AI tool that can calculate. That's easy. That's going to be very valuable.

That's going to be super. Imagine when you think of like wearables, like aura and stuff like that that have become really, really good and relatively accurate to your calorie expenditure, what you're doing. And then now to be able to potentially just like, screenshot, you pair that software together and like we're really close to getting to this thing to where you're like real time can look down at your phone

and be like, oh, I'm plus 500 calories right now. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm down 250 calories. Like real time be able down at your phone and be like, oh, I'm plus 500 calories right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm down 250, like real time be able to see where you're with yourself with the perfect dose. Yeah. Or your, your, your, your down 20 grams of protein for the day or you're on track to hit your like worth, I mean, that's here.

That's like right around the corner, are you gonna be able to get one of these tools that is tracking all your stuff real time? You're able to just simply screen, take a picture of the food you're about to consume. And then it actually calculate all of it. Oh, there it is. Single photo calorie tracking. It's called snap calorie.

Yeah. So it uses AI to estimate the caloric content of food from photos. Wow. It's going to get even more, I think it's going to get even more. That's what I mean. This is where it's at right now. Like in a year's time, this thing is going to be not only even more, I think it's gonna get even more. That's what I mean, this is where it's at right now. Like in a year's time, this thing is gonna be not only even more accurate, macro breakdown,

and then you're gonna be able to see. Well, at some point, and this is where like the nerd in me gets excited, at some point you'll have a device that's taking your bodies, it's measuring things from your body, and then it's telling you what is probably the best thing to eat and how your body's reacting.

And so, you know, today you should probably eat a little more of this, have a little bit of that. We're noticing this marker going up, this marker going down. Oh, your blood sugar is this, you need more of that. And then literally it'll tell you on a day by day minute by minute basis, water, food, macros, based off of goals.

Here's the hot take on that. Here's the hot take on that. We're gonna, we're right around the corner from all that and we're gonna be fatter. Probably. Yeah. Anybody wanna listen to that shit? You know why?

We're gonna show it up. It's, how is it gonna be? Literally chewing that for a minute. It's gonna be that awesome, that accurate, that simple to know why you are not in shape or you are or why you're losing body fat or you're not or you're We're gonna know like there's no gonna be long a pretty to pretty precise, right? So here's a word to be fatter

So there was this was a while ago. I'm finally pessimistic So I'm now this is just me spitballing here, but there's they already have this technology This was something I had maybe a few years ago where They could do something to your tongue with an electric current and make foods and create salty, sweet sensations. Okay, so now you got the average food. I actually enjoy the food, but it's not providing those.

That's right, now you got somebody who's like it's telling you what to eat, and it'll just make whatever you eat palatable. You'll take a bite of the vegetable. That's ridiculous. Bacon, you know, whatever. I mean, that would be cool science. If we can make my broccoli taste like a chocolate chip cookies,

that would be fucking rad. Yeah, now you, now, now. Imagine we do get to that place, that size. What's that gonna do? You're sure to throw in and lay only a few. You can actually throw, you know, like that might, of course there will be, there probably will be some, you know what,

you're spot on. Let's go conspiracy theory now. Yeah, right? This now they're gonna feed you bugs and shit and they're gonna be happy about it now Your government allotment cockroaches. They can you be happy about it? You'll own nothing you eat bugs like what else? Here comes your box of government allotted nutrition You know carbon neutral Well, thank you. What it what an interesting

Decidulation what an interesting speculation though on your part, Justin, like, that, like, yes, we're not far from like that being like a potential reality. Like, could you imagine like actually making your broccoli taste like chocolate chip cookies? But then what is that going to do for things like serotonin, all the other things that are affected when you get these, these pleasure signals from eating those pleasurable type of foods like, I confuse the hell out of your body. things that are affected when you get these pleasure signals from eating those pleasurable type of foods. It's like a fuse the hell out of your body. Right, so what could, there's always like some negative

outcome that you don't foresee that happens. Are we gonna get to the point where you're gonna be able to push a button to make yourself, like all of a sudden, have fuzzy feelings for your partner again or whatever? Like, man, I really, beep, I like you again, cool. Let's be, yeah, let's be awesome. I don't know, man, it's gonna be a weird future where we can manipulate ourselves.

But I think each time we do, we're gonna realize that there's a concept of other side. Yeah, it's like a never ending, it's like a black hole. I don't know, that's what I think at least. Yeah, yeah. Do you add commercial right here, right? Because we have this today anyways, and I actually have been meaning to ask you guys

because it's still very consistent for us in our house is Max eats magic spoon almost every day, but he eats a dry. So I don't know if like you guys as kids are consistently using it or not. I see real eaters too. It freaks me out. I don't understand. I was never that always likes all the milk clay.

Let's put it in there. Never been a dry cereal eater. I was a dry cereal eater. You were? What do I do? Sometimes. Really? But I do prefer milk.

Yeah. I've never been a dry cereal eater. Max, some cereal's are delicious. He loves magic spoon like that. It's a snack. Not a fan of that. Bro, is he in high protein? No, that's, I mean, I'm very pro that.

Because what I don't like, so if it's not that, then he'll go to, he loves waffles, right? So that's been like his, these gluten-free, higher protein waffles, which is I guess a lesser evil, but I mean, that's basically fucking glorified cake for breakfast, right? So I'm not a fan of him,

and he's not a huge fan of eggs and stuff like that, and Katrina's defense in the morning, in a hurry and stuff like that. By the way, Magist's Boone is everywhere. Yeah. Everywhere. I see every detail everywhere. I was in Nob Hill and it was just the where we go all the time, just grocery store.

I didn't realize they were like on the shelves. I think there it's so I remember when they hit Target and that was a big deal and then I think Walmart was next, but I mean, I was up in a trucky grocery stop and at like, save mart or something. That's insane. It's in pretty much every major grocery store thing out. Now, what that tells me is that people are valuing protein intake enough to spend the money on a box of magic

spoon, but also that it tastes good enough to win over the average person. Otherwise, it wouldn't be in these major outlets. It wouldn't be good. It tells me we missed the fucking book, and we'd boat, we could have been rich. That's what tells me. I'm like, shit.

I wish we were in a place, so we were inside. I mean, we were all pro, just did have the money at the time when we first started talking to the magic spoon. I mean, they have to be, I mean, the last time I checked, they were worth a ton of money and on the rise.

Look at it bought out, I think, by a big company. They have to, right? I mean, that's the move with that. You know what's so funny to me is, like, how terrible like the boxes are so cheesy, like the cartilage. I like them, I feel like. They look like somebody on mushrooms made them.

So, literally. They're rising on the old Twix and two cans of sand and all that kind of, so they're trying to kind of. I don't even think they're that good. I think they're terrible. They're really, I think I love them. I think I would love to find out. You would get my attention.

I feel like one of the founders, like they let their kid draw the fucking pick. No, that's too far, bro. It would totally get my attention because it looks like you got a bunch of, like graphic designers together had to meet some psychedelics and then said, now make a cereal box.

So I'll give you that, that maybe that was like this great strategy, was like instead of looking like every other cereal box, it does have kind of, I think when you, I look at the cereal aisle, they all do have a kind of similar look and management does not look like any of them, in my opinion.

I used to like cereal boxes that, because when I was a kid, yes, you never had, you didn't have a phone when we were kids. But you really appreciated a cereal box that had something that you could look at, read, or do on the back. See, turn around. Oh, crossword puzzle.

You know what, your cereal? Did I tell you guys that's been a big hack for us recently. I think I'm not a share of this, that we started doing this with Max. Like there was a time when like right, the before dinner, dinner time was kind of like his, like, iPad time that we let him do that and was one of our ways to get him to kind of sit

still. And he, like, plays, like, teaching games while he's also eating. But we've now, when we left this last school, they used to send him with all these, like, homework, this homework that he used to love to do. Like, we're he's tracing and learning letters letters even learning math and colors and all this stuff and Katrina Photo copied all of them so we have like duplicates of all of them and then we when we eat now is we just started doing this We weren't doing this when he was a little bit younger of

Like organizing family dinner time like all of us together sitting at the table organizing family dinner time like all of us together sitting at the table No phones or iPads. We so he has something to kind of do. He absolutely loves Like working on the schoolwork at the same time of eating. It's been like a really nice little hack dinner time for us Has become a story time hosted by dad apparently. I told my son I I mean I can tell pretty good stories I I think. But now that's all he wants. So now at dinner time, every time we dinner, tell me a story, okay. Tell me another story.

I really have a story all the time. Oh, that's buddy. So I'm just making up, and I always inject some kind of a lesson in them. And then every once in a while, I'll put in a lesson that the older kids or Jessica will get that he won't. So it'll make it real funny. Like, you know, kind of like,

you know, like I shrek did that with the animation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll do something like that. And my wife will look at me like, he's gonna figure this out. Right, it's like over here now. You don't get to know that. What do they call like adult humorous?

Yes. Public service announcements. Like that's what my own feels like when I'm like talking to my... I'm like, I'm like, Yeah. Like, and we're at the dinner table. I'm always like, I feel like I have to like,

have a moral lesson, you know, that we talk about and discuss. Always happens, but it always feels like the end of a GI Joe episode where it's like, you know, always helping old lady cross the street or whatever it is, like it's like, you're just reiterating these things that, like nobody's teaching them anymore.

It's just like the basic things, like how to be a man and how to do things the right way and all this stuff So it's like I just use that time because you haven't captivated like I have him right here right now Like make sure they're gonna be moral good human beings now are you guys consistent with dinner same time everybody? So you are like that now are you even with the gap with the kids? Oh, so oh that's a big deal So the only time we all get together consistently. I mean, if you don't do that, we're not all gonna be together very often.

Yeah, yeah. You have to do it. No, I agree. I would love to do breakfast. This would never work. That would be great. That's impossible. That's hard to do.

Yeah, everyone's on different schedules at that point. But once school work is over, it's easier to do management as you do that. But six o'clock thing. Oh, even if one of my older kids, yeah, you're right, Saturdays and Saturdays, Saturdays, thing. Oh, even if my, even if one of my older kids, yeah, you're right, Saturdays, Saturdays, Saturdays, we'll get that. Yeah, but even if one of my older kids,

like I already ate, you still gotta come sit at the dinner table and they just sit there while we all eat. Because otherwise we don't hang out. We don't see each other. So the shout out today, this is a good one. Yeah, our boy who came in here the other day, Remi. So his Instagram is Remi, the rock star. So he's a two time purple heart recipient.

There was a movie, the outpost made out of him and his, you know, the people that he served with. And he was a caller on the podcast once. That's how we kind of met him, invited him down. He brought his boys. Really cool guy, super smart. Obviously a badass, also a PhD. He teaches at Stanford. It was Stanford. Really cool guy, super smart. Obviously a badass, also a PhD. He teaches at Stanford.

It was Stanford. Really great guy, so check him out. No, no, really, really cool. He actually went to the park city house for his bachelor party. That's right. And was just like raving about how, one, how cool the house was.

And then also for people that don't know, we at Courtney, who's running that for us, Justin's wife, it has created like this, all the things that all of us do when we go there. And it seems to be like one of the hottest things for people that go there. They, if you actually, yeah, if you go check out all the foods and drinks and the things that we talk about to do out there, the people that have followed that. And he's like, I literally did that every day. Like it pulled from your guys' list. And like everybody was that he said that he took for his bachelor party was so impressed

because it was like, they thought he like planted all out. You're built in it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he said, he gave himself up and he said that we had it. We had it there. It's pretty much booked up, but there's some opening stuff. Actually, August's stuff is we were light.

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20% off. All right, back to the show. Our first caller is Riley from Texas. Riley, how's it going? How can we help you? Hi, all. How are you all doing? We're doing good. Good. Good. I just want to say thank you guys for all the content you put out there. I've been listening for like two or three years now and y'all's advice has just really helped me out in the gym and in life. So, I was going to say that first.

Awesome. Thank you. Sweet. How can we help you? Okay, so I'm just gonna read off my question here. So I've been listening since I was a kid basically, and I loved Liz Hevy, I love powerlifting kind of style of training. However, I'm decided to try out for some pro cheer slash dance teams. So I've been noticing that my training is making me very sore and stiff, which is negatively impacting my dance training because obviously we need to be very flexible, fluid. So I'm kind of just kind of stuck on where to go with my training. I want

to lose some body fat. I need to lose some body fat for auditions. And I love to live having me, but I don't want to be sore all the time. So I don't know if you'll have any advice for me. What's our time frame look like with all this? So my first audition is in October. So have a look. Oh yeah. Now what is the dance training look like now leading into it? Are you practicing with the other people trying out? Or is this all on your own?

Like what does that look like? Yeah, kind of with other people, there's just all the teams I live in the Dallas area, they all host different classes that you just drop in and take classes. Okay. Yeah. Well, first off, I got a comment on something. You've been working out what waits since you were, it says up here 12 or 13. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got the football coach. So I've been in the gym with him since I was a little. Oh, you got a good day. I love it, man. Okay, so this is actually kind of cool because you probably have a really good strength base

and muscle base. You've been working out for a while. Your dad's a coach, kind of knows what he's doing. I see up here, your squat is 210, your deadlift, 215. Maybe Duncan scrolled down a little bit. Was that 135? What is that, your bench? Yeah.

Holy shit. Yeah. And you're wrong. And you're full 11? Yeah. That's incredible. Okay, so here's what you got to do because what you're describing with your tryouts and what you need to do, there's definitely skill is, excuse me, strength is definitely a component, but you got that.

You've got more than enough strength to do that. What you need to develop is the skill. So you're, you should not be doing much strength training at all. It should be almost primarily practicing the techniques and skills required for the tryout. So if you do any strength training at all, I would do like it's more supplemental. It would be like once a week.

Right. Once a week or a map 15, either one, so either one of those. But and then even when you do straight training This is opposite advice that we normally give people like really pushing the way and trying to get stronger It's like I'm just I think moderate intensity full range of motion is where I'm focusing Yeah, and you like I said you could either go one day a week like a map Santa Ballet type protocol or our maps 15 is also I think a good program for what you're doing,

but to Salis Point, most all the focus here is on the dance, like that's where everything should be centered around and increasing the frequency of that. So if you're already practicing with them, then instead of going and lifting weights on two or three more days a week, I would actually tell you to practice more of the moves

and more of the flexibility stuff. You've got the strength, you know, because somebody your age doing something like this, you would have to, it would be like combination like skill, strength, sometimes people have the skill, but they don't have the strength totally different. In your case, if you could do, if you could take a class that really teaches you in practices, the skills, like four days a week or three days a week, that would be ideal. And then one day a week I would lift.

And your lifting should be like four compound lift type of a workout, kind of basic, just kind of maintaining your strength. And that's it. But just, if you just focus on the skill and stop trying to build muscle and strength right now, you're gonna get there. If you try to do both, it's gonna be really hard.

Okay. So then with losing body fat, do I need to focus in on my diet a lot more than, yeah, that's where the leaning out's gonna come from more than anything else. Don't try and burn it off, like literally just reduce calories probably a little bit, but not too dramatic either because you wanna support

what you're doing. I mean, you're training for a sport, in a sense, right? So you wanna make sure that you're fed and taking care of it, so like that. Well, what position are you trying to support what you're doing. I mean, you're training for a sport, you know, in a sense, right? So you want to make sure that you're fed and taking care of it. So like that. Well, what position are you trying to do? You're 4-11. So you're trying to be a flyer or you want to be a base?

Like, what are you looking to do in this competition? Well, so in pro-tier, it's actually, it's just all dancing. So I used to be a flyer, of course, but, yeah. Now it's just, mm-hmm. OK. Sal was a flyer. Sal knows. He used to be a mask. Yeah, see these guys I know what's going on.

I know all about you for some reason. So, okay, so look. That was a base. Cutting your calories is important. Don't cut them too much because you're gonna lose athletic performance and strength. It says it's here your body fat percentage is already great. You're at 23%.

Honestly, I think if you, like what was your workouts like before you started training for this sport? Would it look like including cardio or whatever? Was it just lifting or were you doing before? Should you be a gymnast, right? Yeah, yeah. So all the sports growing up,

and then but like recently in adult life, most recently I've been running maps to set it. And then I just did my cardio is just like walking my dogs. Okay. So if you did like four days a week of this specific type of training, cheer training, maybe one day a week of lifting, I think you probably could cut your calories a little bit and you'll still get leaner.

Okay. Yeah, because that kind of training is pretty, it's like a little calorie burning.'ll still get leaner. Because yeah, because that kind of training is pretty, it's like real calorie burning. And part of what you're trying to do is you're trying to get leaner, you're also trying to get smaller because you're supporting your body weight with a lot of these moves. So it's not just about getting leaner, it's also about kind of getting smaller. So a little bit of a calorie deficit's okay, but don't go too far

because then you're going to lose performance. But yeah, with your gymnastics background, strength background, just practice the skill and you'll get there and it'll probably. I think, yeah, all that is great advice. I do think, too since it's October, like the Maps 15 suggestion, at least like, you know, rotating that in to help kind of support and keep and maintain those strength gains that you have acquired would be a great. It just have to be disciplined with making sure you really stick to that formula and like

that time frame. And, and Massive Teen, what I love about the way we designed it is you could actually make it instead of a six day a week, you can make it a three day a week also a program and just pair the two workouts together. So if it's more, if it's more convenient to spread it out over six, which I think is ideal, that's fine. But if there's, if you have, like let's say you got cheer stuff going on,

dance stuff going on, practice wise, and just focus on that, and then maybe pair a day together, you could do it that way. But, you know, right, let me ask you this, what are the most challenging aspects of what you're trying to do? Like when you're going in, you're practicing the routine,

you're gonna train audition. What's one of the hardest things for you? the routine, you're gonna train audition. What are the hardest things for you? Um, like the kicks and like when we, anything that's like a lot of like arching, like you're back, like my back is so tight from lifting, and it's like that's just tough. So, if you listen, here's a deal, getting smaller, it's gonna help. Yeah, and it's, it's, it's, it's, this is all skill. This is 100% skill

0% you needing to get stronger or more fit so if you're doing if you're practicing with them four days a week and you want to add more I would add more practice practicing these techniques and the skill of All these moves and stuff like that because you've got the strength You've got gymnastics background. This is not about becoming more fit. This is literally about just learning how to do the movement better. So if you're going to do more quote unquote workouts, I would send through them completely around perfecting the skills that you have, that you're challenged with. I don't think it would hurt her either to do a little bit of cardio too.

I imagine there's some sort of cardiovascular from practicing she's going to get put. Well, I mean, yeah, if you're not practicing, right? That's, at all times, if you have free time, the direction I would push you is into practicing the moves that you set are the most challenging and getting good at that, right? But if there's a day when you're not doing that,

I think doing some steady state type of cardio would not be a bad thing either. Yeah, but that's not what's holding her back. It's all technique here. No, but you said something that I think is very true, it would not hurt a bad thing either. Yeah, but that's not what's holding her back. It's all technique here. No, but you said something that I think is very true. It would not hurt her to get smaller. I mean, just not just lighter, but smaller too, is for what we're trying to accomplish.

Right, but my point of room. But my point, and that's when I thought she was doing the other type of cheer with this, like, okay, 4, 11, 23% body fat. This is gonna be like what you just said, you can get smaller, but if you don't have the technique, it'll matter. And I think you're going to get a little smaller anyway,

just from practicing it. So I wouldn't focus on getting smaller, because here's what's going to happen if you do that, Riley. You're going to go too far. You'll go too far. That'll become the primary focus. You're not going to fuel yourself enough. You'll lose your period.

Hormone balance, imbalances will start to happen. I just practice the skill, and you'll be totally fine. You have the strength to do all the stuff you just mentioned. I think if you just practice the techniques a lot, you're gonna get plenty of workouts. And if this is important to you, you really wanna make the team, that's the most likely way that you're gonna make the team.

Okay. All right, good luck. Okay, awesome. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, you got gonna make the team. Okay. All right. Good luck. Okay, awesome. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, you got it. Thanks for calling in. Okay. All right.

Dude, she's so like a head of everybody. Left her face. Left her face is, yeah, already established. I mean, she could technically not lift any weights. Because that was not even like I'm gonna promote mobility. She's got a gymnastic background. She's got everything. She's got it all set and dialed.

So yeah, really, it's just like, you know, maintaining that, leading up to it and improving and adding more skill into it. Yeah, and you just said it, Adam, she could lose a lot of strength. She'd be fine. She's already strongest out. Yeah, that's right.

And she literally from now until then could like, not that I would tell her to stop, but she totally could. And be fine. Stop lifting weights and just become obsessive about the dance routine and all the moves and just doing that and doing that and doing that. And she's not gonna, like,

she's not gonna go from a two-ten squat also to which she can't do her body weight squat. So, you know, she's strong, you know. Totally. Awesome. Our next caller is Peyton from West Virginia. Peyton, what's happening? How can we help you?

Good good how you guys doing? I wrote some some stuff down because I forget easily so there's bear with me but been listening for about a year or two a really big fan. Obviously I love you guys talking about nutrition and lifting but I really like when you guys talk about your personal family lives it just like listen you guys talk about families stuff just makes me want to be a dad and everything right now I'm at like 23 years old, so. But um, some background on me, um, 23 years old, obviously, six feet tall, currently 180 pounds. I'm assuming I'm around, probably right around that body fat. I haven't officially like got a measure, but been lifting for years now, just because from sports, from high school and everything, but around COVID, I really started taking the nutritional and supplemental side pretty seriously.

And then I lost a bunch of weight. I was at about like, probably like 185 to 190, got down to like 160 pounds. And I thought I was in really good shape. I was like, super skinny, super lean, but then looking back at that now, like, dude, I was like a straight skeleton. So, um, start last fall, I started, I balked up, started actually taking Crete team, and then got up to, right around February, I got up to about 208 pounds.

So, yeah, I know. Pretty intense, I probably put on a little bit more fat than I wanted to. I was still kind of lean, I was pretty good, still with my diet, but then I cut back down and I'm 180 pounds at the end of June, on June 30th, I was 180 pounds. So I'm in the best shape of my life, obviously, I don't think so.

I body dysmorphia still kicks in and everything, but I just wanna talk about like kind of like the mental side of fitness and nutrition. So when I first started bulking up and I'm putting on size and muscle and everything, I was really pushing myself hard training to failure, drop sets, super sets, a lot. Just every single lip, I just wanted to feel that burn, because I just loved absolutely feeling that. So I've been listening to you guys talk about how this probably isn't the most efficient pushing to failure on every single set. So I just wanted to see what like the first step is to realizing that's not

the answer. And then like, or if there's like a way to push till failure without like over training and everything. So that's kind of like the main question about the fitness. Payton, you're a moose. Yeah, whatever link you sent us, I think those are the pictures when you bolt up. Uh, you, would you play football? Do you play football high school? I did not play football. I played into my freshman pictures when you bolt up. Would you play football? Do you play football in high school? I did not play football. I played into my freshman and then I played basketball,

baseball and then I actually ran cross country. So. Yeah, dude. Yeah, you got, you were lean. Yeah, I would say the body fat you think you put on, that was too much is not too much. I think. You're doing fine, bro.

And the fact that you got that big at your age, going to failure with drop sets and all that shit, you got good genetics. Cause that is too much intensity. How do you move away from that? Okay, so that's a challenge. And that's a continual challenge, as you stay on this path and on this journey,

the best metric to measure, not perfect, but the best one to measure is our objective metrics. The mirror is never objective. The mirror always is subjective. So you could try to make it as objective as you want, but it's a kind of a tough one, but objective measure will be like your strength. Follow Matt's power lift, bro.

Yeah, Matt's power lift, Matt's in a ball lift. That's power lift would be great for him because he's measuring that, right? You know what you're tracking that, the whole point of that is designed for you to get stronger. And then going to, I'm going to bulk. Yeah, feed your, so go back on the bulk. Yeah, and fall.

So this picture's actually sent you guys. That was probably when I was leaning out on my cut. I didn't show you pictures what my full bulk was, but I was still kind of, I was that lean, but the right, those pictures I just sent you guys, that was full cut now, obviously, not before I was skinny slash lean.

So. Yeah, I think you look better filled out for sure. I mean, you still look, you look plenty lean in the, healthy. Yeah, no, you look good, bro. Yeah, I mean, okay, here's a thing too, right? So and you got great results

and you were training to failure. Like, I mean, this is, you a here's a thing too, right? So and you got great results and you were training to failure like I mean this is yeah, you're you're literally Talking about what all of us did. I mean we were the same thing in our early 20s train the same way and and here's Yeah, and you've probably heard us say this because you've been listening to show for a long time is that You you think that the more you put into it the harder you go the more're going to be, because that is like how almost everything else in life works. It's not exactly. Yeah, it's not that way with physiology. It's not that way with nutrition and training.

It's not the harder you go, the more you do, the more results the better you're going to be. There is a very, there's a sweet spot, and that's unique to everybody. So even though we're giving you advice here, you know, it's gonna be different from each person. You're gonna kind of figure that out. A great test of this is to be true to a whole program. I would tell you, all right, Peyton, just trust the process.

Follow one of these programs and never go to failure. Watch what happens in three months, you know. Should do not always stop with two in the tank. Always allow yourself. It doesn't mean you're not trying to add two in the tank. Always allow yourself. It doesn't mean you're not trying to add weight to the bar. Every time you go back to the gym the next day or the next time you're hitting chest, it's like, okay, last week I was doing this,

let's try and increase by a couple pounds and see if I can do that. But get rid of the failure. Get rid of the, I need my buddy to come over and spot me for the last rep or two and train through a whole program that way and watch what happens. You'll be surprised. Okay. Yeah. All right. For sure. All right. Awesome. You're going to crush if

you do that. Your body's going to respond. If you respond it as well, you already have your age with what you were doing. You're going to respond really, really well. And I like, I mean, I like focusing on strength because it's hard to overdo it, underdo it, you know, and mess up on the strength. And with nutrition, you know, I read up, I'm reading in your comment here that when you were bulking, you were eating until you felt sick to your stomach, you don't need to do that. You really don't need to do that.

You never see progress. Yeah. And then back to what Adam was saying about hard, redefine hard. Everybody thinks hard means grueling. Hard just means challenging. And oftentimes, especially with someone who has a hard work mentality, harder for that person means smarter.

Because they just want to go, they just want to make it grueling. So it's not necessarily harder in the sense that it hurts more. It's hard in the sense that it's more challenging for you to do it in a smart way. So if you redefine it that way, it'll help you. Yeah, sometimes you need to throttle the intensity and you need to get after it.

Sometimes you need to just focus and throttle more on the discipline of actually doing what's right for your body in order to get results. So, you know, that's just like a totally different mentality. And this is, too, you're sort of the example of like if somebody were to ask us in hindsight, like how we would go back to 20 year old self, what we would tell ourselves. Like you have that opportunity right now to shift and completely do things in a way that's beneficial.

Yeah, earlier than we did, right? Yeah, so you're in a great spot, dude. Yep, perfect. Yeah, all right. And then just one last question again, kind of with the mental side, but this is more of the nutrition. and it has to do with cheat days So I'm very consistent like my diet throughout the week like in like 200 tunes for the grams protein today enough fat

And then if I need the cutway calorie deficit calorie surplus for bulk, but then when the weekend hits it's like a completely different story I'm still young and I'm usually consuming alcohol. And then even when I go on vacation, that's whenever I'm like away from my diet of the whole time. I just want to know how much alcohol, a couple of beers on the weekend is affecting that. But anything.

You're overthinking it. Yeah. Payton, you're not thinking about it. Listen, when you're in your 40s, you're not going to look back and like, man, I shouldn't have enjoyed myself. I should've been so straight. Like don't go binge drinking.

Don't be an idiot, right? You don't stuff. Yeah, I don't do stupid stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I think you look like you got a good head on your shoulders. But yeah, man, you know, okay, on the weekends, you just enjoy yourself hanging out with your friends.

It becomes about the connection. If it becomes about the alcohol, well, you're now you're doing something wrong. But if you're out, yeah, you're enjoying yourself, like, no, don't trade that for being perfect with your, this is stupid trade. I'm gonna tell you that right now. You're not gonna get much out of it.

I will add this though. Don't let it be like this, because this was also me in my 20s, where I was dialed Monday through Friday, and then Saturday of Sunday, I had the complete fuck it attitude. Because I could, because I can,

you'll make so much more progress. If you still try and follow some of your rules on the weekend instead of just completely going, oh, I'm not tracking today. I'm drinking beer, I'm doing everything. Something that worked really well for me that my work for you, which is like instead of telling myself

I can't have the beer, I can't have the fast food or can't do these things, it's like, I'm going to at least hit my protein and take in my and get my training in. So it's like, I'm going to get my lift in and I'm going to hit my protein and take. And then after that, if I'm out with the boys at nine, we're going out drinking and we're going to go have the restaurant, I'm going to have the chips and dip, like, I'm going to enjoy myself. But those two, those two like rules for myself for the weekend of getting my lift in and then hitting my protein intake. And then the rest, whatever, that will keep you

on pace because you'll be surprised how much two days, if you kind of just have the extreme on off attitude, how that can really stall your progress because you go so extreme one or the other. So at least have a good foundation, but the sales point, you know, you're not, you're young. This is a time to enjoy life a little bit too. So you don't need to be, you know, anal about not having a beer with your buddies when you guys are having a good time.

Yeah, how old are you, Peyton? I'm 23. Are you going to school? You're working. I just graduated. I just got my masters in software engineering. So I'm just finished. Oh, it's, you got, I know the case. Yeah, I'm graduated, I just got my master's in software engineering, so I'm just finished. I know that I'm working. I get to smell your mentality, you're very, very focused, disciplined. That's great. That's great, man. So, if I was talking to you typical 23 year old,

I'd be like, get your shit together on the weekend, whatever. But you don't come across as like some 23 year old kid that's fucking off. So just enjoy your weekends, bro, because you're going to be too uptight if you don't, you know, if you don't do that. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty good. Like you said, I'm good on the weekends of tracking protein, stuff like that, but again,

with the alcohol. But then the difference is when I go on vacation, it's like, it's all out. Like, I'm going there to consume as much food as I can. And I know if you guys have talked about this, like, don't eat so quickly and stuff like that. And so that is like, that is one thing that I need to work on. Actually, the last vacation would help me. I don't know. This is weird. But I started just eating like sunflower seeds because you just kept my hands moving and my mouth moving to like just not like eat so much food and when I'm on the hands.

So that was another thing. I love that. It's a nice hat. Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you. Yeah, it was weird. It was so weird. I think I know what the problem is though, you're too regimen to too strict on the week.

And so the weekend becomes a release. That's what I was saying. It's a point I was alluding to. I was the same way. My 20s I was dialed Monday through Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I had the complete opposite attitude of, oh, but the belt comes off. This was also a big plateau breaker for me. I was stuck in this rut for a long time.

And even as a trainer, I couldn't quite figure out, why am I not able to get more shredded or look like this? And then this was way before all these great tools that we have now, like the Aura rings. And we didn't have that, so I could track once those tools came out, I saw what was happening. It was like, I was just totally over-consuming bad calories, not hitting my protein intake, not training on the weekends. That was enough to stall my progress

because, and I was still fit, I was still in good shape, I was a trainer, right? So to the average person, but I was trying to get to the still in good shape. I was a trainer, right? So to the average person, but I was trying to get to the next level. I couldn't get to the next level because I was so on off. And so that was why my advice to you, just don't go off the rails and have a couple small rules.

I love the eaten sunflower seeds, so you're not snacking on some other problems. And maybe loosen up during the week a little bit, so it doesn't feel like you have to completely disconnect. That makes sense. You know, every weekend just to come back to sanity, because if your week is so regimen and stressful, that Saturday and Sunday come around

that you feel like you need to let go, that's a sign that the week may be a little too regimen or too, whatever, too stressed. So either mindset needs to change or some of the things that you're doing during the week need to change a little bit. So yeah, painting. Yeah, that's all I had, but thank you so much. Payton, we're going to send you Mass Power Lift. Do you have an Instagram? Okay. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Are you dating anybody? Are you single? I'm

something. I'm single. We're going to help. We're going to help you out right now. What's your Instagram? Yeah. Sounds like we get you laid? It's PK. All right. It's PK underscore fitness, underscore nutrition. Yeah. We got a six foot tall software engineer. He's a hawker. Everybody. He's got too much discipline. I know. I know. Ladies, we got you. Hey, you're welcome. Okay. Look out. Look out. You got it. Yeah. Thanks for calling in, man. All right. Yeah. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thanks. I'm ready. Yeah. Good kid. At that that age, you know, I'm telling him to loosen up.

Most 23 miles you flooded with the end. Yeah, I get you asked together. I'm interested to get you. I mean, he's built a lot like how I was built. And I do remember that was the, Bro, he was jacked in that picture. Yeah, he looked, no, he looked great when he was bulking. Right.

He was putting calories in some of that. But I mean, of course, you always want more, right? So as a kid, you're like, you know, I could get more and you do more. And like the weekends were, you've heard me talk about it. Like winning the weekends became like a huge total change. And to your point about allowing that free.

So my idea was like, okay, when I shifted away from the pizza, beer drinking, all the crazy stuff on Saturdays and said, okay, I'm gonna win Saturday and Sunday. And then if I still want pizza, beer and those things, I'm just gonna have it Monday through Friday. So I actually have more days that I could have it. If I wanted it, what I found was when I'm working,

when I'm in my routine, I craved it less. I didn't want it as much. And then if I felt like I was deprived because I was winning the weekend and I was being so good on the weekend, I would then allow myself on Tuesday night to go have it. It was great and Al J came up with. It was like about being jet lagged

over the weekend and you know, wasn't that yours? Yeah. It's a good one. You do the handoff. Basically, so I'm trying to make up sleep by going to bed late on Friday. Monday comes around your jet lag. But yeah, I mean, it's, you know, that's a calm, by the way, forget the kid we just talked to. A lot of people are like that when they go on vacation or they look at like a break

because their life is so unmanageable in terms of regimen and stress. They go off the rails. They go like crazy, you know, and it becomes less about enjoying yourself and more about releasing the fact that you felt so confined. So it's like a mindset shift

and maybe some of the some of the structure needs a shift. He's gonna crush it, dude. Yeah. Our next color is Justin from California. Hey, what's up, man? How can we help you? Hey, how's it going guys? Thank you for having me on your show. This is Truly an honor and it's awesome. Thank you. You got it sweet So I got a question. I remember You know many moons ago Sally you you talk about Jitsu and I believe if I remember correctly, I was a purple belt. Yeah, it's the one. Thanks for reading that.

Yeah, it's been too long. Well, I'm on my journey again. I trained 25 years ago or so and I'm back on the journey, so I wanted to ask you guys some questions and see, you know, I know some of the answers possibly and I've watched some videos but see what you guys have to say, I think this could help out a lot of people. Okay. So my first question is like, what would be some strength and conditioning resistance training exercises for Jiu Jitsu?

Justin, when you trained before, how long did you train for, and then how long have you been doing Jiu-Jitsu again now? So before it was about a year, and right now, I just started, so it's just a couple months. Okay, so you just got back into it. By the way, if you don't want me asking, where do you train? Because you said you're from...

Santa Cruz. Yeah, so what school do you go to? Claudio França. Oh shit, that's right trained. San Jose, I train at the San Jose location. Yeah, it's great, great, great place. They got, they host a great tournament every year as well. So okay, so here's a deal.

The conditioning you're gonna get for Jiu-Jitsu, the best conditioning you're gonna get is gonna be from doing more Jiu-Jitsu, okay? Strength training, when people try to lift weights to improve sport-specific conditioning, it's not as good as practicing the sport itself. And you know this, right? You're getting back into Giu-Jitsu. It's like, you got to do more Giu-Jitsu to get the stamina. It's a very high-skilled sport. Now, as far as strength training is concerned, general strength training exercises are going to have the most carryover for you right now.

So what does that look like? Deadlift, a squat, a lunge, an overhead press. Maps and a ball. Yeah, a row. Maybe some rotation will be good. Now, as your conditioning continues to improve with Jiu-Jitsu, as you start to get into the more advanced levels, then what you can do is you can modify some of your lifts like I would do pull-ups, but rather than holding onto the bar, I would take my G and I'd wrap it around the bar and I would hold the sleeves and do pull-ups, for example. Or I'd do rows with sleeve attachments

or I'd put a towel around dumbbells, just the kind of mimic grabbing the G whenever I would do those exercises. The most carryover that I ever saw from any exercise in Jiu-Jitsu was, I would say, dead lifts gave me a tremendous amount of carryover when I was doing any kind of stand-up, kind of take-down type of stuff. And then my core strength had tremendous value when I was on the ground, especially when I was on the bottom playing the guard or half guard, just a really strong

core made a big difference. But I wouldn't overemphasize beyond the general strength training, the strength training, any more than the Jiu-Jitsu itself. Like, how many days a week are you going right now? So I'm pushing three to four days a week. Oh, especially after just two months, that's a law. How do you feel? You real sore? I'm pretty sore, but I focus on sleep and nutrition. I mean, it's literally around the clock just stretching, which kind of like leads into my second question, but it's just stretching mobility, just food, like sleep. I mean, I'm it's literally like a full-time job.

Yeah, it's just the condition. And were you lifting weights before? You started back into Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah, I've always lifted weights and done a lot of calisthenics and just tried to stay fit in general. Okay, the most I would do with strength training right now is one day a week, the most. Because you're already pushing it. Because I know how grueling it could be and how it beats your body.

So I would do like four lifts one day a week. I wouldn't train to failure and just focus on kind of building overall strength. I would keep the reps around six to eight and just build overall strength. I would do like a, like I said, four kind of gross motor movements for now. When your fitness gets to the point where four days a week,

you just feel like no big deal, then you can get more specific. But that's gonna take a little while. How do you feel about this, too? I totally agree with that. But like adding in like a real emphasized focus on our prime program in terms of like being able to access certain ranges of motion again with strength and getting

to the point to where his body will react and will respond a little bit more appropriately. I mean, obviously you're going to be doing that with the skill training with jujitsu itself, but in order to then figure out kind of a routine that preps all those main things that you feel in terms of like Soreness or in terms of like stiffness the restriction. No, I think that's good advice I mean his next question is asking about focusing on mobility and he's referencing probably some of the mobility videos I think that's the only thing I would add to Sal advice is like pre going into your Jiu-Jitsu is having like a little mobility flow. Some ritual.

Yeah, and it could be whatever you want. Like if you take, like let's say you go through our Prime Pro webinar that we have, where I kind of take you through all the way from head to toe, some of my favorite and it doesn't have to be that, or you take from, we'll send you over Prime Pro program that Justin's referencing. I would pick, I don't know, three of the movements

that meant like a handcuff rotation, maybe some sort of a 90, 90 movement or some three or four mobility movements and turn it into like a flow of like, because- A little shoulder full hip full ankle, like those three would come from. And that becomes like your ritual to getting started,

to getting into, you know, your rolling and stuff. Yeah, and I'm trying to look at it, because I can't remember the name of, so there's jujitsu, mobility specific, or mobility that are jujitsu specific, that are gonna be really good for you. The average person, yeah, they wouldn't get tons of benefit out of necessarily,

but you would, okay, so like, one of them would be like the Brem below type movements, where you could practice that on your own. Do you know what that is? I do not. I've heard of it, but I don't. Yeah, so you ever see that you get to guys, they'll be on their back and they'll walk their feet around and kind of roll over their head and their toes are touching the and they're kind of rolling around in that way. So it's a lot of like neck and back mobility and movement. So like something like that, there's a good hip mobility drill you could do on the floor

where you're mimicking being in the open guard, but you kind of like egg-beater your legs, where you're opening them up. You probably do this in your warm up. Like that would be really good. There's good wrestling mobility movements you could do where you're practicing bridging and stuff like that. That's gonna give you a lot of carryover for jujitsu in particular. Those type of mobility

is required for you to perform really well with jujitsu. And then one more thing, when you're training three or four days a week, modify the intensity of when you when you roll as well. So if you're feeling like sore and tired and stiff, tell your partner you just want to flow or just work off your back the whole time, let people pass your guard, maybe just practice, trying to recover the guard the whole time. Don't worry about tapping out a million times.

When I, that took me a long time to figure out one of my instructors said, why are you trying to, you know, pushing yourself so hard all time? Why don't you practice flowing? And then I got better because for me at least one of my weaknesses was that I could use my strength and get away with not having the same technique.

Once I loosened up a little bit, my technique had to get a lot sharper and my body didn't get so beat up. So just something else to focus on. Yeah, I think that, um, Once I loosened up a little bit, my technique had to get a lot sharper and my body didn't get so beat up. So just something else to focus on. Yeah, I think that what I like about I was at a previous Dojo the last month. And so what I like about Frances that they do a warm up at the beginning. So then I don't have to come up with a warm up like before I get to the dojo or do it there. So they already

have it like programmed in and that's really helpful. And I do have a Prime Pro and I was actually incorporating at the previous dojo was the handcuffed rotation, the video that you did, which is like amazing, the mobility video., you know, prime pro is awesome. And so it's prime actually for my shoulders because it keeps it simple for me. And so yeah, I was trying to like put all that together at the beginning. Little side note, you're in Santa Cruz, do you surf?

I do not know. Okay, the reason why I ask that is, you know, I mean, you might know this because you're in the Jiu-Jitsu world. The Jiu-Jitsu guys, especially from Brazil, I never surfed, I have no idea if this is legit or not, but they swore that surfing had tremendous carryover to Jiu-Jitsu. Like all the Brazilians just raved about this. You might be able to even ask your instructor if this is a legit thing, but just a little

side note. It's got to be the core and the shoulder mobility and strength that's required. And just getting up on the board, balancing, like the type of stamina, it would have rave about, just say, oh, it's the best, like the carryover was amazing. But I don't know if it's because it originated in Brazil and they do have surfing there.

And they're just, I don't know, I never tried it myself, but just something else to, you know, if you wanna have fun while you work out, that might be something to look into. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. I'm really learning the importance of shoulder mobility. And the third question was kind of like, explosiveness, but also tied into just the mobility of like,

thoracic spine and the lower back and how important that is. And it's definitely no joke, that's for sure. Yeah, the general strength gains you're gonna get are gonna give you the best explosive carryover. Later on, you could do more specific explosive type training. And then if you transfer into like no-geee rolling, that'll teach you how to really be more explosive because the geese slows you down quite a bit.

Yeah, yeah, okay. All right, Justin. Thanks for calling out, man. Good luck. Awesome, quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, okay. All right, Justin. Thanks for calling out, man. Good luck. Yeah, man. You got it, man. That's cool. We trained at the same place, I.

That is cool. I'm sure nobody remembers. It was so long ago, but, uh, good, you know, they might have a big picture of you in there. No, everybody brings candles underneath it. Nobody cares for it.

So, you know, it sucks. It's the guys that I used to train with, like at my level. They're all like black belts. Yeah, you train with some bad asses. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But no, you know, this is good question because, you know, when you get to like a super high level, then your outside training becomes a little bit more like specific and whatever,

but for most people getting more fit for their sport, the best thing to do is play more or do more of the sport. Nothing's gonna really give you the power. Especially, yeah, like working on the skills and using that as a way to condition because it's like you get both of those benefits to that. So, totally. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.

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