Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 218: Body weight training, ketogenic diets, avoiding Alzheimer's & MORE

Episode Date: January 13, 2016

Sal, Adam & Justin answer this week's questions (Instagram @mindpump) on the best meal systems & plans, avoiding Alzheimer's & dementia, using body weight training to stay lean & to build muscle, the most influential people in the fitness world & ketogenic diets for fat loss. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpradio.com

What are we doing? We are doing iTunes reviews. Give it away some free sheet, free t-shirts and tanks. Tank tops. Oh, yeah. How many of their podcasts do you guys listen to? Are they stringers? Give away shirts every single week. Yeah, how many podcasts do you listen to that bribes people to leave their views?

Hey, none. Hey, it works. We're bribing people to like us. And we deliver. It's kind of like a fraternity when you think about our sorority. Yeah, interestingly some people have like sure Show us your dance and you're gonna free teach instead code, you know, right? It's a review Send a DM to Doug Either one will get you a free to yeah, either way just say yeah, we're just putting it out there. All right

Let's give some shit away. Yeah, interestingly, some people haven't claimed their shirt yet. So if you happen to be going through a past episode and your name comes up, yeah, we'll honor that. We'll honor that. That is if Adam doesn't take your shirt home and wear it himself first. Yeah, exactly.

You know, you already wore them all. You gotta first show that you aren't owning shirts. Yeah, like you really need it. Yeah, you don't have one. All right, give us our first winner. Yeah. You don't have one. All right, give us our first winner, Doug. Well, let me just say our reviews have slightly increased. So we're on a good trajectory here.

Thank you. So I want everybody out there to review hard this coming week. And I tell you what, if we get 12 reviews, I'll give out four shirts total. Don't forget, there's nothing unethical about you grabbing somebody else's phone and leaving a review. Not all. Not all. And then you claim it afterwards.

Yeah. You're benefiting humanity by doing that. Absolutely. The world's a better place because of that. So we got two winners this week. We have Meet Head Mermaid. Woo-woo. Oh, she's the redhead girl that's from us on your phone.

Yes. And E Pedro, who wrote a very emotional review. His review. That was very deep. I recommend everybody who right now who's listening to this podcast to go and read our reviews and find the one by E Pedro. It's a long review and it's very,

I mean, it was, I mean, it was deep. It was a good one. Yeah, I can't. It took me back. In fact, read all of our reviews because there's just some incredibly amazing ones. Oh, hilarious for sure. Yeah, hilarious, amazing. I mean, I get inspired just by another.

Honestly, I have a guilty confession. You guys are killing it. What am I things to do because we do get quite a few now? It's like, once a week, I get on there and it's normally like a Thursday or Friday night. Is it when you're pooping? No, I actually get high and I do this. Oh, okay. I smoke a little bit of weed and then I sit and I read through it and I get all emotional

dude. You could train and walked in the other day and I was crying. You were really crying? I was. It might have been his that I started crying. Maybe he's looking too much right? No. You know what? You know what? I do get a little sense. I'm sensitive dude. You're like a big bitch. You know, I sometimes I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I complimenting them, it takes a lot of humility. It takes a very strong person to do that. And I feel like the way I reciprocate that is, that's special to me and I get all emotional over because I feel like not a lot of people do that. Not even people could put themselves out there

and let that be known. It's quite a process. It is quite the process that, it's the reason why we don't have a million of them. We'd have a million of them and everybody if everybody did it But it takes a million of them you'd be a fucking mess I mean his mask Okay, last winner no, there's two winners. He had mermaid e Pedro send us your iTunes name your address your size to mine pump radio at gmail.com

Thank you Make Adam cry love it. If you want to pump your body and expand your mind Please only one place to go Might, might, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Why do you look so oily? Huh? Why do you look so oily? It's true, huh?

Why am I so oily? You know what I think it is? What does it mean? No, you know what's going on? We're shiny. I guess that'd be an issue. I'm oily. I'm oily for two reasons. He is shiny. Number one, because I'm Sicilian, but that's racist. Number two, you said it.

Number two, it's my testosterone levels are high right now. And when that happens, my skin gets a little oily. Where are you testosterone levels? Are you saying that you are feeling? You want to gear you? No, no. I've reduced my my masturbatory activities. Oh, masturbatory. Is that a word? Is masturbatory that a word? It's a mask, but Tories or words? Mass, but Tories, activities. Doug, Google that. It is, that's not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a word. Doug, of course you do, Doug, of course you do. Of course you do. I love these out. Of course you do.

Hey guys, thank you so much for you. I love it. I love it, this is Doug, this is Doug's controversial. Contribution. Sounds right. I mean, that's the best. Yeah, right. Guys, I've been down this year.

You know what, motherfucker, this is the out of it salad debate. This is the data me more out of it's all our debate This is the furt. This is the fourth time maybe maybe the fourth time that you have like said I've said a word that I made up and I've been right every time With no it's a third here's a thing. I'm okay with being wrong. That's how I'm okay with it I feel the need the sourcing right now Yes, it's a real word But yes, yes, it's both you guys. It's a real word. Let me see.

Let me see. The reason why I do this, and I feel like I've heard, I've seen this on a couple posts. Like some people like want us like, oh my God, could you, every time Sal talked about something, could you guys please post the studies? It's not, it's like, no, bro, we don't have the fucking time to do that every time.

And I have to stuff he says, it's like he remembered a study that he read fucking nine years ago. So I'm I'm paying nine columns. I feel I feel the need that every once in a while I got a you know I got to keep you on your toes by calling you out on some shit just to make sure because I know somebody else was listening and thought like did he just make that word up. No, I did it.

Let's see the only time I kind of dad it was the whole smart thing for being a part of my daily mass. But no, no, I'm just I googled it. It's a word there There you go, see. That's all you, I'll give me a fucking, the source dictionary, you don't have a dictionary on your phone? I don't know if it's gonna be a dictionary. Why wouldn't it be in the dictionary?

Well, that's two words. Just because you could Google something that doesn't make it correct. It's the fuck, I didn't mean that. What could it back to? We could compete in the middle of it. Nice try, buddy. That one worked on Doug, that one worked on me.

All right, Let's try this Let's just look up master Batory Existing oh wait a minute. Wait a minute master Batory is a word Mariam Webster dictionary Mary Webster trying to help these people out here. It's gotta be legit Which there's such thing as a wick scenario. Let's play the game. How many times can salvage right? And then I'm gonna be massive There's such thing as a wick scenario. Let's play the game. How many times can Sal be right? And Adam be right. Accessually, essentially self-absorber, self-indulgent, mass-pertorian sanity to arrive terms, pertaining to masturbation.

Okay, okay, you're right, dude. It's an adjective. In case anybody ever asks you to get it. You're my fucking phone now. Don't look through the pictures. I don't want you to see my mass-pertor activity. So, because I love them. So you know what? I have a log of my mass-pertorian. I wanna address something, because we've master of productivity. So because I love them. So you know what? So I'm in my master of tutorials.

I want to address something because we've had people ask. You want to address something? Address. So you're saying you're shooting a lot of volume now. No, no, no, no, I was joking about that. I was joking. I was joking. People get angry.

Some people in my family get mad when I talk about masturbation. So I'm going to stop doing it. That was my last masturbation joke. That's a lie. I'll keep it going, just in your honor. Thank you. No, I wanna address something because people have been saying,

like, I wanna see some of the links to studies that Sal is, Sal refers to. Did you run homework? Well, okay, here's the thing. I wanna be very clear. I've said this already, probably 10 million times. I actually have very little formal education. I have no formal education.

All this information that I gather is because I have an insatiable thirst for particular types of knowledge, because I don't want to use the broad term knowledge because there's a lot of shit I know nothing about because I could care less. But there's certain topics I get into and I become obsessed about and I become manic about it. And then I obviously masturbation one of those is one of those things.

And so that's the that's the that's the that's the the hence the mass. The story was a call it mass. Tori activities. Mass to be Tory activities. I'm using that next week. Yeah. Check this out.

That's that's when you fuck yourself. So it's legit. Like damn it. I fell what happened. I didn't time I shoe. I had a masturbatory activity. A one of our one of our most viral episodes recently, bacteria sexy.

Yeah. I've gotten so much feedback on that. I had to say, when you brought that up, I remember me and Justin kind of laughed at you. We were like, oh, really? You guys always laughed at me, no. I don't know that we laughed at. Well, we couldn't have like- That was your bullets, I mean, let's see.

No, that's what I think is silly. The two jocks in the room was making fun of you. No, I was like, oh yeah. I think we just't lose your bullets. I mean, the channel. You know, that's what I think is selling. The two jocks in the room was making money. No, I was like, oh yeah. I think we just joked about it. Cause we joked a lot about bacteria in the show. And we said, okay, right? It's not very common. And then, you know what, you were, and I admittedly said,

hey, you were right, that was a great topic. We obviously helped a lot of people because we got a lot of great feedback. So my roommate, F, super, super. Oh, I know, Ev. Yeah. Cool guy. So after he, he's like, he shared that episode with some of you. He was like, oh my god, that was so cool. That was so good. He's like, dude, you have to check out the, do you notice what I've been doing every night? And I'm like, no. And he's like, when I'm gargling. And I'm like, oh, I said, yeah, no, I have what is, so he walks around right

now in my house for like, fucking 30 minutes with, no, I have what is up. So he walks around right now in my house for like fucking 30 minutes with a mouth full of like. Cooking in oil. So he's walking around. Right, am I right? Yeah, you're right. And he looks like cheers, but it's not. And he's suspicious.

That's just sick. Very nice. I'll walk, I'll walk, I'll be downstairs, walking around the kitchen to do stuff. And I'll try and talk, have a conversation. When he looks over at me, I'm like'm like bro spit out the mouthwash, bro And he's like doing all this stuff. I'm like whatever right oil pulling. Yeah, he's doing oil pulling And he's like man, and then he felt the need to explain all of it to me after the whole back to your thing

I thought it was very fascinating So there's there's truth to it. There's some truth to it coconut oil contains high amounts of lorick acid which is antibacterial anti-fungal so Swishing that around your mouth will kill bacteria It also because it's a fat and because it's an oil it dissolves solids and other things in your mouth and on your teeth so doing it for 30 because you got to do it for like a long time like 10 20 30 minutes So because you gotta do it for like a long time, like 10, 20, 30 minutes.

So it's kinda sucks, your mouth gets tired. Yeah, I thought that was crazy to how long he does that for. It also, it real, real similar to the whole concept of, you know, how toothpaste and the, that kills everything, all the, everything in your mouth, even the good bacteria. And that's what he was talking about was

the coconut oil doesn't do that. It'll actually still protect and put a layer to protect over the teeth and the gums, but then actually flush out all the bad things. Yeah, it's not bad. It's good for your mouth. Dentists will even agree, even Western dentists. Truth paced, by the way, is mostly bullshit. People know that.

It's mostly nothing. It's flavored nothing. It doesn't really do much. Baking soda is probably my favorite. It's your best option. Yeah, baking soda is your best option. Well, doesn't all toothpaste have a little bit of baking soda in it though?

Not all of it. Only the ones that say baking soda. Oh, I thought most did. I just said. No, no, you can get your toothbrush wet it and just dip it in like if you have a little saucer of baking soda and brush your teeth and you'll get better results than if you used toothpaste.

Well, son of a bitch. Yeah, I'm switching to chalky ass fucking drinkin' some baking soda. So that was the first thing he said. You also don't need to put the paper to wipe your ass. You just need your hand, just kidding. I'm sorry. He trust mine.

Yeah, that was too far there, bro. You know how I feel. I mean, you could, you know how. You know how I feel about it. No, I feel about it. No, there you do have the atom and all. I'm you could. You know how you know how I feel. I don't know. I feel I'm very do you have the Adam and all this clean. I've made a joke. I spent a lot of money on that. I made it. It was a joke obviously but I was on a very sensitive topic. It's she and a guy's whole next never joke about ask cleanliness. He takes that shit

serious. I do take this seriously. So he he's switching around. He's walking around. He's got his new beats headphones on my roommate. And he finally. He's he's walking around. He's got his new beats headphones on my roommate, Ev And he finally like Yoda. Yeah, he He finally he's spits you like that He's cuz I've been watching a lot of Star Wars lately. He spits out the coconut oil and then I say bro You got the beats finally how do you like him? Oh, man? I love and dude check this out He's like I got him through T-Mobile and they just gave him to me.

And I'm like, what do you mean they just gave him to me? He goes, oh well, T-Mobile has this deal of beats. You guys know what it is? No. And I don't know about you guys, but any time businesses do very smart moves like this, I'm always fascinated by it. I think this was a very fascinating partnership they made.

So beats partners up with T-Mobile. Now, you can go get yourself a badass pair of $400 beats And it just is $15 a month on your cell phone bill you get them right there. It's fucking brilliant, right? You know what the best part about it is I mathematically calculated out He ends up only spending like 30 more dollars or something that over a year and a half of payments for these headphones So for 15 bits 15 bucks more on your not even I think it was like $11 in some time. That was brilliant on Dr. Dre's part. Oh, that's what I'm saying, that is.

Oh, I know, he sold it, huh? Yeah, it's Apple now. Apple, fuckers. Smart, right? You know what? God, everything should be in payments. Oh, I'm using beads. Everything should be in payments.

Think about it. Almost everything. That's what I'm trying to do. I mean, they are trying to do. Yeah, the even on your Netflix. Even the car wash place is like, here, you could just come in. It's like, it's like 24 bucks a month, right?

And you could just as many times as you want. Shut up. Yeah. Where? At the car wash there off of Baskham. Classic? Yeah, and Hamilton, yeah. Classic doesn't?

Yeah. I'm going. That's where I go. Do you know how many times I gear I wash my car? See, this is what they make like this whole last month I didn't go because it's all raining yeah, right, but they still got it Yeah, I'm still a good deal. You got massage place you got massage places that do that too Yeah, it's smart. It's it's you know, it's it's long-term thinking that we're gonna get a lot more

Turn from the beads headphones seem to me was like wow that's a no-brainer because one But I don't know about you. I don't even look at myself on bill. My cellphone's automated. Like you just get a notified. Not a notice that I get to duck it. And then let's be honest, it always fluctuates anywhere between five to $20 based off of what I freaking did, you know, as far as...

What you downloaded or what? Yeah, exactly. So, so I never really paint, so the difference of $15 on my cellphone bill would never even make me even look twice. So to have that, and then now you have this cool pair of, you know, 400-hour headphones that you eat literally, I think he only pays 30 or $40 more dollars over the length of a year and a half of making payments.

And I'm like, dude, that is so small. That's a great idea. Right? Brilliant. I thought you guys would appreciate that. I know you guys would appreciate good smart business stuff. Smart business. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa First up is hair by Claire HBC. Hair by Claire, don't care.

Boo yeah. She's asking about the best meal systems and plan. This is one of my home girls that goes to OTF, what up? Yeah. I'm told her for sure if I would get to her, I'm glad she did that right away. I just literally told her the day. Make sure you do something on Kwa.

We'll hook you up and answer. So here you go. Best meal systems plans. I know it was a little bit longer than that. I think getting started on a plan, I know she mentioned has a heart talking like neutral system or something. Well, it sounds like it doesn't matter. Any sort of plan that she starts to follow, she has this hard time with sticking to it for long pretend it gets boring about that, then you go a new bench,

which I think is actually a really good question and a really good point to talk to people coming in a January right now because this goes back to what we talked about before with aggressively super restricted about it. It just came off of freaking New Year's Christmas and Thanksgiving where you were eating all kinds of shit. And then to go from that and transition to some crazy neutral system, whatever program that limits you to 1,300 to 1,500 calories, tops, and it's liquid drinks, you're drinking,

or salads, you're eating all day long. I mean, yeah, you are gonna end up binging, you're gonna end up being so hungry all the time, and eventually you give in, and then when you do, you shoot those left and right levels up, and you can't control it, and you get going like crazy. So balance. Yeah, balance is important.

And to be fair, I will say this too though, to be fair. All things being equal, you got a good program, you're at a deficit, everything's balanced. You're gonna get hungry still. Okay, so that needs to be said, because I think people have this, they have this misconstrued notion that they're not, they shouldn't be hungry.

Yeah, like you should, it's almost like a pain. Like when they say stay on top of the pain, I feel like people have that same sense. Like I gotta feed before I get the hunger monster will attack. Right, and they can't deal with it. Like I'll give you an example. Like right now I'm hanging out with my brother, so I'm making him like shakes

and I'm trying to help him with his diet. Well, he fucking snaps like four days later, five days later, oh, I'm just gonna have, it's just one cookie or whatever. And I get it, I get that whole thing, but he just, he doesn't have a good relationship with feeling a little hungry sometimes. It's not, to him it's like this horrible thing,

I shouldn't feel like, if you're at a deficit and you're burning body fat and everything's balanced, you're burning body fat, you're gonna, it's cool stuff going on. You're gonna be hungry sometimes and you got to be okay. You just got to deal with it. This means I'm burning body fat and I got to deal with it. Well, this is how I motivate my clients. I tell them that the motivating part about that feeling,

think about this, that's your body's natural system. Your body's natural response telling you that we're switching systems. We are now going away from using glucose as our primary source of fuel right now and we're now switching over to using fat because we're completely depleted and that's that feeling. The body lets you know that that's probably what's going on. And when you think of it like that, guess what? You could be hungry driving your car or sitting still and your body's burning fat. How awesome is that?

So switch your mentality of thinking that, wow, yeah, I'm hungry and stuff, but if I can just actually fight that off and not give in to that, I don't even have to exercise right now, and I could actually sit here and actually eat up. And how many times is a hunger, not real hunger? It's true, that's another one, man.

Like I go to the movie theater, and I'm hungry for popcorn. I could have just eaten. Well, they say like what? They say like 16th century civilization, though. Yeah, exactly. So you get in and you get the smells and you get, you know, it's all part of the experience. So a lot of times, I think rituals to like family and friends

and like you just have a certain time of a day. And so then it just your body sort of has this natural response that it builds because of these sensations and how you experience these things. Yeah, I mean, can she ask specifically like what's the best meal system? Here's a deal. There's general rules with diet.

If you're trying to get leaner, you need to eat less than you're burning. You should have relative balance, although some people do better with a more fat and less carbohydrates. But you should eat whole foods. They should be pretty healthy and nutrient dense. That helps a lot.

But there's a lot of individual variances too. So really, you need to start slow and start to figure your body out So step one would be you know take one thing and and make that your goal like I'm not gonna change my diet at all all. I'm gonna do is eat one third less or eliminate Eliminate something let's see because most people have something they can totally eliminate that is pretty much worth like Sodapop right, you know or ice cream at night, or box fucking cereal. Just cut that out first.

Get rid of something that you know is completely not helping out your goal, whatsoever, and replace it. And you know what, get rid of it and not eat anything. Get rid of it and replace it with something that's whole and natural, and that adds some nutritional benefit to it, other than ice cream or cereal.

Well, here's the other problem too. I was just thinking when you're talking about this about these foods, this is where this reaction to that, I think, if it fits your macros, I'm gonna immediately start to identify these bad, quote unquote foods, right? You buy pizzas and ice creams, and I'm gonna make them the focus,

and I'm gonna build my nutrition plan around that, right? Instead of what we just said. Exactly. You know what I mean? That's kind of a big difference. It's like you are telling yourself that like this is, it's such a priority to me, and that I'm so horny for this food

that I'm gonna just do all this shit to make it work. You know, this reminds me of somebody, and I know this is probably a listener, so this is gonna sting a little bit. Somebody posted on Salisting a while back, and I think she's a regular listener. I definitely know she's a regular follower on our pages, and she always likes to challenge everything, which we all appreciate that. But she specifically likes to pick on the whole us talking about shit food, and her response was, you know, I just don't like it when, you know, we demonize food.

And I believe Sal got back to her nice in a nice manner. I probably would have done it differently because as you had done this several times and was saying that that's the issue is that, you know, these fitness professionals demonizing foods like that. Here's the bottom line. Like, there is shitty food. I'm sorry. I, you can't sugarcoat it line. Like, there is shitty food. I'm sorry. You can't sugarcoat it.

I mean, there's nothing wrong with making a valid attempt at not eating that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that you'll never eat pizza. Again, I'm not saying I'll never eat ice cream. All those things find their way back into my diet too every once in a while. But you put it in things, situations that you find yourself in.

Yeah, of course, no big deal. And it's okay to eat it sometimes and say to yourself, like I just ate something that's not good for me. Exactly. Like that's fine, you know what? But you just said that and you admitted that. Listen, Saturday night I went out and fucking drank like an idiot, right?

Was I thinking to myself like, this fits my macros? I know, right? No, I'm like, this is not good for me. This goes, yeah, this goes, I mean, it's such a right and wrong thing. What's right and wrong, really? You know what I mean? Like you start getting into these like,

these stupid debates and you're just like, dude, look, there is one way to do things, and there's kind of a standard. You know what I mean? That's what we're trying to establish that people understand that. Yeah, I think it's important too. I mean, here's a shameless plug for us.

This is how, why and how we created the nutrition guide. You know, like anything else that we've done, it's a guide. It's a guide to help you navigate through your own fitness journey and make healthy good choices. It's not some cookie cutter diet that says, you gotta eat this, gotta eat that, follow this for the next, you know, through end you end up binging it. No, it's showing you your plan. Be somewhat squirrely sometimes. Yeah, who cares, but you know where the straight line is? Yes. And that's what this is all about is about a guide from

point A to point B. This is the ideal way for us to how to eat from these types of foods, how you choose these, how you grocery shop, all that's inside of our guide. So that was a whole purpose of why we did that and why we did, we all easily, easily could have mathematically done this. And this is what, just so you guys know, every cookie cutter, popular diet, the most expensive, or the most sold books

at Barnes & Noble's on diets, every single one of them, go to one principle, they stick to the same principle, even though they give you a twist on it's fat or protein or it's carbohydrates, this fancy name to it, they all go down the same thing, they take your body weight

and they figure okay, a female between 130 and 150 should eat X amount of calories. And then they fit whatever their like gimmick spin is into that caloric intake And they know that if you're that size and you're only eating that you're gonna lose weight And we easily could have put something just like together It's not hard at all for us to mathematically sit down and draw up a male and female diets and separated by 15 to 20 pounds and scale it up in calories And starve everybody's body, but that does not teach you how to eat properly.

No, if you have someone who really does it slowly, takes their time and figures their body out and sees what works for themselves, you'll have someone who's got long-term success. Absolutely. That's what you get at the end of that. Absolutely. Next quah.

Okay, next quah. X tamale gendrocks. Houndrocks, the J is pronounced like an H. That's correct. So we're going to have to have some different tips. It's, it's, it's, it's a Pajera. It's Tommale, Hondrox. I don't know.

I don't know. Let's go with that. All right, what can you do to avoid dementia or Alzheimer's? I used to know this, but I forgot. But um, um, I heard like, it's giving you a crazy laugh, So it's sunk in some CBD. Yeah. Well, look, avoid, avoid sugar.

They're now linking positively linking issues with processing sugar and, you know, metabolic systems around that with dimension Alzheimer's. In fact, some researchers, this is not mainstream, but some researchers refer to Alzheimer's as type three diabetes. Wow. So it's very, very closely. Yeah, that's new to me. Yeah, so if you Google type three diabetes, you'll see some people calling Alzheimer's at. Not exactly.

Yeah, maybe Doug, you could do that just a double check, make sure I'm correct. Well, I was thinking while, you know, we're talking about that, like with neuroplasticity and like ways to train the brain as far as new experiences and constantly challenging it in new ways, I mean, is that applicable to this? I mean, with Alzheimer's, like, I see that one program that they've made on the computer too, or, you know, they're just trying to get your brain to think and challenge it in different ways. Yeah, I mean, staying active does keep

and exercising keeps the brain healthy. Well, usually what keeps the body healthy keeps the brain healthy, remember that. But there are specific things that make the brain operate better. Now, here's a big one. Can you nerd this up for us? Absolutely. I know I asked you to dumb it down, but because I, we know what all time

is that. I know Justin does too. I'm very familiar. But what exactly is happening inside the mind that is causing you to? Yeah, and because you know, I worry about it. It's good genetic component to that because, you know, yeah, it runs in my family. So it's a signal that I'm starting to lose? Is it a part of my brain that I'm no longer connecting to? Is it some sort of relationship between my body and space and awareness and what is the actual scientific,

do you know what's this? Yeah, you know what I'm gonna look at. So I can't remember the name of the proteins that build up in the brain, but they build up in the brain, the brain can't get rid of them. It's that's a waste that builds up. And it's this progressive...

It's almost like I've blockaged them to blocking a signal. Yeah, and so some people think it's a metabolic disorder of the brain where I can't get rid of, you know, I can't remember the name of these proteins. Maybe Doug can look it up over talking here. But yeah, nonetheless... That makes sense because that's why also things like ketogenic diets and some of that are supposed to be very positive.

Ketogenic diets, I was just going to say ketogenic diets, now the research, a lot of research going into those and treating Alzheimer's and dementia and they're having lots of success. So there's a link between that diabetes that you mentioned. Well ketogenic diets, there's lots of science now supporting that. It makes the mitochondria cells operate better and it's your body from a metabolic standpoint operates on a much cleaner way. And they give, even, now this is even people with Alzheimer's, they'll have them eat like coconut oil or MCT oil, which gets turned right into ketones.

So then not even on a ketogenic diet, they just give them something that they know will give them some ketones, and they even prove cognitive function. So that's one big thing right now that's out there. Doug, you find something there? Yeah, amyloid beta. Thank you, amyloid beta proteins

build up in the brain. The other, so activity, ketogenic diet is one of them. Anything that reduces systemic inflammation, The other, so activity, ketogenic diet is one of them. Anything that reduces systemic inflammation. So if you have any food intolerances and gut issues, they're now finding that gut issues influence the brain directly, just like we talked about in earlier episode, the lymphatic system now connects to the brain as well. So that'll benefit is making sure you don't need anything that you have intolerances to.

So if you eat something, you get really bloated from it or just upset your stomach, it gives you a lot of gas, but you really like it. So you keep eating it anyway. You should probably stop eating those things. And lastly, they're doing lots of research on cannabinoids, fun marijuana, and that preventing progression or development of Alzheimer's because of its neuro protective effects. It's a very anti-inflammatory for the brain. Yeah, I know it's also related to Parkinson's and stuff like that.

I've seen studies on that because I've read a lot for the CBD related to that. Neurodegenerative conditions that degenerate the neurological system can abinoids seem to do really well with because of its protective property. So they don't know why cannabinoids look like there really well with because if it's protective property. So they don't know why cannabinoids are, can look like there seem to be effective for Alzheimer's. One of them is, one of the theories is that cannabinoids, they help with program cell death. So if a cell is a little mutated or off, rather than, you know, sticking around, it kills itself.

This is also why cannabinoids are anti-cancer. The ironic part is when I write Smokeweed, I can, I forget what I did in the early of the day. Yeah, that's the ironic part. Well, high doses of cannabinoids in particular, THC will reduce the size of the hippocampus. So it will influence and reduce your ability to have short-term, you know, memory function. However, cannabidiol, CBD, and other cannabinoid fennel marijuana, prevents a lot of that, which is why it's important if you're going to use cannabis on a regular basis to have something that's got...

You have acid out. Yeah, it has a cannabidiol on it. An easy way to do it would be to take ibuprofen when you smoke or use marijuana because ibuprofen they've shown to reduce that effect. However, if it's on a regular daily basis, probably not a good idea either. To take ibuprofen every single day. Yeah, exactly. The CBD and the daily basis, probably not a good idea to take. I'd be profiting every single day. Yeah, exactly. The CBD and the THC, not so bad.

Yeah. I'd be profiting every single day. On a regular every single day, probably not. Yeah. Back to Brandon asks about your thoughts on using body weight only training to stay lean and build muscle. Interesting question. Yeah, this is a good one. Didn't you do a whole, like, didn't you do that for a long time, Justin?

I did do that actually, yeah, for a year. And for me, yeah, for a year, I was trying to get into, this is before CrossFit, it was like right before CrossFit, you know, popular. You were trying to get into the circus. Yeah, that's it. Next law says. I was just really into like TRX suspension training. I was into Olympic rings. And I just, I wanted to take a break from weights

because my entire sports career and basically all throughout my life, lifting weights has always been the same thing. Has always been heavy loaded back squats, heavy bench press, you know, heavy, well, I wasn't really big into deadlifts, but I definitely did a lot of power cleans and front squats and all that kind of stuff. But it was just all barbed bell driven. Like I, that's all I've done. And like always to as much load as I could put on it. So I was challenging myself in a sense to do something different,

do something different and get my body to adapt, you know, obviously. But I kind of, I probably went in excessive amount because I was just interested to see what would happen, right? Yeah, yeah, what do you do for experiments? What did you experience? What did you notice a year of doing that, the good, the bad, what would you take away of it? I definitely lost size, but my muscle density, like I felt really connected as far as like my movements

were concerned, like I move a lot better at a lower weight to begin with, but then at a strong lower weight, I felt like I was a better athlete, as far as you know, having multi-planar movement and being really efficient in that. However, I did not feel powerful. I was just gonna ask you, if you could put it on a scale,

like a percentage, like, you know, I probably lost, you know, 20% of my strength and power, like if you were related to like your squad or your clean or something like that. And how much do you think you lost? Yeah, I probably dropped about 20% I that's a good number Yeah, when I went back to doing backloaded squat and bench and all that kind of stuff Yeah, I definitely lost I lost some but what I gained was like an insanely stronger core and so I felt like I actually

I took that stronger core and then it benefited me in the longer term, but it took me a while to get back. Now, here's a thing. Bodyweight training is resistance training. I want to make sure I say that because people think of it as a completely different type of training. It's resistance training. Could you accomplish a lot of the things that just with know, that just did with barbells and dumbbells

and moving them different planes and stuff? Yes. If you're looking for like overall athletic performance, you probably a good combination of the two and what probably best, right? Exactly. And I think that was what I was experimenting with and what I was, you know, happy to find out, you know,

like, wow, this really compliments. And then I started, you know, working with them together once I came back to weights. So I think it really, more than anything, helped educate me how they both interact with each other and how to most benefit from using both. Yeah. If you're, if you have no access to a gym and you want to do resistance training, then that's what you do. You do body weight training. And it's fine.

Here's the thing though, body weight training is actually remarkably, it sounds like it's easy because you don't have equipment. It's remarkably difficult, especially if you're a beginner. You can get creative ways to make it real difficult. Yeah, because I could give someone five pound dumbbells, but there's only so much I can regress, a push up or a pull up, I can't regress unless I have some kind of equipment Right, so we have to change the body weight movements and So it's actually it can be very challenging to do especially if you have muscle imbalances

Well, I want to break down a little bit what he is specific question, which is you know thoughts on using body weight training to stay lean and build muscle My lean part first well, here's a thing my thoughts on on that answering that is this is My lean part first. Well, here's a thing. My thoughts on answering that is this, is can it be done? Absolutely. Is it the most effective way to stay lean and build muscle? No.

No. If you put me against somebody, if you put two clients and you got somebody who's just doing body weight exercise and that's all doing, and then I have another person where I'm allowed to use program designing with cardio, different levels and training you a certain way. Like, I can lean out lean out shape and sculpt that person

More effectively than somebody who's only doing body weight exercises Just like it, you know somebody who only does anything if you only do a certain modality You restrict yourself to some point Can you be are there guys out there that look ripped and lean and and do that shit? Yeah, it was a counter to that though I I would say that you could in in a sense, build a more efficient moving body by doing body weight training. And only reason why I say that, we're not talking about muscle gain, because obviously you're

going to get better gains lifting heavier load. That's just math. And that's really what you're doing, because you have to find really creative ways to make your you know your body heavier in a sense by using gravity and angles and you know really more more challenging situations. But yeah, I lost my whole train of thought. I think I see where you're going. I see where you're going with this. I still think though it goes back to, you're training your body weight, you get to fight all these creative ways.

You have to have some incredible core stability to do that. You're moving in crazy different, not just different planes, but the twisting and the moving and the amount of appropriate reception that's involved with. I just think you have to use a lot more, like a lot more muscles are firing in specific, yeah,

like twisting different types of angles, like different ways than you would just be in a linear sort of plane, right? Well, whether I'm, I'm sagittal, I'm transverse. It's like, no, I'm doing a lot of different things and my body is all moving simultaneously. So it takes a different type of discipline that you're training your brain to respond towards, right? That brain and the muscle. So I don't know. It might in a sense be more beneficial in terms of

getting like a firing and recruitment pattern. Maybe like that's a way to enhance that, you know, going back into the lifting load. We can't forget that all training is a skill also. Right. Okay, so it's a different skill. It's also learning a skill. And if you're good at body weight movements, then you're gonna have a really good skill

of moving your body through space in multiple directions. If you're really good at lifting heavy weights, then you're getting really good at the skill at lifting heavy objects. So you're getting really good at the skill at lifting heavy objects. So there is a definite skill difference, and which is why if you're an athlete or you're interested in performance, you wanna do some of both.

You wanna be able to lift heavy objects and move heavy objects, but you also wanna be able to move your body through space really well. And so because they're both resisted training, you're developing different skills for both that are gonna complement each other. In terms of getting lean, he says stay lean,

that's a lot of that's diet. I mean, you can get fat and do body weight exercises. It's like you could with weight. Of course. As far as building muscle, no, weights are gonna destroy body weight exercises. But I think if you combine the two, you'll get a nice combination.

You just got to know how to do that, right? Well, you know what? You maintain range of motion and function that way too. It'll be beneficial. Even though I kind of opposed Justin at first when he said this, here's actually something that kind of strengthens his argument too. Now that I'm thinking about it is, you know, doing body-only body weight exercises, you probably limit to yourself or minimize muscle imbalances and actually hurting yourself

from lifting. If you're just dealing with your own body, there's probably less chance of you getting hurt than if I was stacking weight on myself and doing things and moving like that. Wouldn't you say that would? I think it depends. Do you think it'd be equally, equally? Or do you think, because I would think that, it depends, man, because I'm thinking

of all the body weight exercises that you do, like the hard ones. Well, I think your analogy was right on with the skill. Like it definitely is a different skill. And the thing is you can master like the way that your body moves, I think by doing bodyweight training, like you see these guys doing these crazy calisthenics and, you know, they've mastered their ability to get into this real strange movement.

And on command, they can get their body to do really crazy things. And that takes a very specific skill trained by moving in that very specific pattern and commanding your muscles to react to doing that as opposed to just overcoming load. Overcoming load, that's a different skill, but we'll also compliment that other skill. Right, I guess it really depends on the things that really tickle your tummy, which everything you'd rather do more. Like if there's some great body weight built.

Well, you do pull ups, right? Yeah. If you think, if you think muscle ups are like a handstand, handstand pushups are, uh, you know, you'd, I'd rather be able to say I deadlift, you know, 600 pounds than to say I can do 15 muscle ups. Right. You know, and both are going to take some, you know, than to say I can do 15 muscle ups. Right. And both are gonna take some, you know, both are gonna take a certain amount

of discipline towards that goal. Right, because that is fucking hard. Yeah, right, right, right. Both, yeah, 15 muscle ups and deadlifting 600 pounds are equally very hard in their individual selves. But I guess if you think it's cooler to do 15 muscle ups and you wanna be able to do that, then I think that's, then I think that's easier.

Here's another example. You just talked about handstand pushups, right, where you're standing on your hands upside down. So that's kind of stuff. Okay, so that's working your shoulders, just like a standing shoulder press, right? But there's a lot different skill between the two exercises.

You're doing the same movement, but there's different stability involved, different balance that's involved. And so what you get at a body weight training is just different skills for how you move your body. Really, that's what it boils down to, because I could make body weight training extremely heavy and challenging.

I won't be able to mimic a deadlift with body weight. I don't know how you would do that. I mean, some exercises you just can't, you just can't, you know, copy one way or the other. Yeah, that's why it would be, it's extremely impressive to me whenever I see this, whenever I see, it's a super big buff dude who's actually limber and functional

and can do body weight pull ups and do a lot of these body weight exercises in addition to going over and ripping 600 pounds of the foot. When I see, yeah, when you see guys like that, I think that's because you know that they have had to incorporate both because you can't just your one of them focusing on just one or the other is going to develop a great skill set. Very few people can walk around on their hands and do, you know, handstand pushups for

10 or 15 and then turn right around and bench press, you know, 405. And it's like those motor, you know, movement patterns that like I wanna keep established in the way that I move. And like that's why I wanna make sure that I'm addressing that, even when I'm lifting super heavy. And you know, I'm trying to adapt

to lifting heavy weights and load again. Like, but I still wanna have these unique movements and I can do that on command still. So like that, that's important thing to, to, to think about like when you, when you are just weight training, like, you know, do I still want to respond? And do I play, play basketball on the weekends or something like that? Right? Do I want to be able to do that? Well, you have, you better make sure you maintain that. Mm-hmm.

The Sean P22, who is currently the most influential person in the fitness community besides us, besides you guys. I wish we were, we should be. We're not here again. We're not here again. We're not here. No, unfortunately, we're not. Unfortunately, it's people that are like Mr. Olympia.

I mean, with the world. You think that? Well, I mean, I guess in your fitness fear. No, it's in his fitness fear. My mind was Joey Swole. I mean, the guys got fucking two million people following him. I mean, you can't deny that that he's... He's influencing two million people

somewhere or another. How many people can you name that are in the world? Dude, what about somebody like a Jillian Michaels? Oh, geez. Right, I mean, she's in front of like every household. Okay, you have me beat there. She, Jillian Michaels definitely trumps Joey Swall as far as how much they're influenced.

But how about this? Let's talk about them too. Let's talk about the two of them and the question is really different. Yeah, who is currently the most influential person in the fitness community? And then I believe the rest of them and the question is different. Yeah, who is currently the most influential person in the fitness community? And then I believe the rest of that question was, what are our thoughts on how their whole philosophy?

Well, when I look at, when I think of the word, because I thought about this when we were gonna ask this question, and I said, to me, what does influential mean to me? Influential means somebody who comes out and changes the conversation in fitness or starts something that wasn't there before they came out.

That's your definition of influence. Yeah, like you come out. That's not my definition of influence. Yeah, because you coming out, like I'll give you an example. That definition, that's like somebody to me. That sounds like a leader to me or somebody to me. They're influential. Well, they, okay, if you're a leader, you are influenced to.

You're a somewhat something you would respond to. You can influence like us with. Yeah, you don't have to come out and say something smart and new and influence a shitload of people doing it. Cause what are exactly? Well, that doesn't have to be. Our examples of who we just had. This is just like, if you're thinking of,

if you're gonna ask some random person on the street or an outpull him in here and be like, who have you heard of in fitness? Yes, right? Well, let me give you guys my example, okay. Was anybody putting coconut oil and butter in their coffee before Dave Aspery was talking about it? Right.

Okay. Now that by the way, putting butter in your coffee goes back a long time, freaking monks, Buddhist monks, and certain countries do that. It's actually quite popular in certain countries. But he brought it to America, started doing it, and now everybody knows what bulliproof coffee is.

He also made eating a very high fat low carbohydrate diet. Uh, he kind of brought that back a little bit. Although that wasn't his. That's been around for a long time. It's been in and out. When we were kids, it was atkins that did it and then it revised version. Yeah. And the South Beach.

They used it a lot too in the medical community. That's where it started for treatment. And, uh, you know, Dave Asprey, very, very smart guy. I love a lot of the stuff he says when it comes to nutrition. His exercise information is fucking wrong. It's just wrong. It's just wrong like cardio. Well, he talks about he didn't like to live too heavy

because when I build too much muscle, I don't want to build too much. Just a little bit like any body. I don't know, anybody that wanted to look like him. Yeah, no. He doesn't, he does that. That's an example of only what makes me means a fit or healthy person, but he's not a very, you know.

No, he talks a lot about, and he's very honest. This one thing I like about the guys, very honest, talk about how he experiments with his body. Was he the one that got caught with the photos? Yeah, he was shopping in his picture with the six pack. I don't know, you didn't know that, dude. No, I don't know. No, no know that, dude. No, I knew it. Doug, please pack me up on that one.

Doug, Google, Google, Dave Asprey Photoshopdabs. Well, actually, I think it was Lane Norton that called him out on that. Yeah, like, yeah, I think you're right. Oh, Lane called him out on that one. Yeah, I think Lane Norton. There's another in Fluch. Okay, Mr. I.I.F.I.M.

If you're gonna go that direction of people that have changed the way people are thinking of doing things, I mean, before Lane, I don't know anybody that was talking about IIFIM. I know. And it's almost like, which it's not something like you said that is new, it's not like new science. If it fits your macros, it's basically how bodybuilders have been eating forever.

Yeah. They calculate their macronutrients and they stick to it to get to a diet. So that the only difference is why, and this is why I don't like IFAM is because they took something old, like a bodybuilder's diet and they made it mass appeal. How do they make mass appeal? You can have donuts. You can have cookies.

You can have ice cream. It just has to fit inside your macros. That's the fucking problem with it. It's not new science. It's nothing groundbreaking. It's how bodybuilders have been eating forever. Only we have figured like, oh, this is a great way. And let me tell you, this is even Lane's pitch on it on how he, somebody asked this.

So here you go. Here's your, whoever asked for this, here you go. Because I said on the forum that we could roleplay this out very easily because I know Lane stands on it. His stance is the psychological benefits behind it. Because you're not demonizing these crazy foods. You're not like, you know, freaking going one excess about this.

Yes. You're not being obsessed about it. And so he does preach to balance and still eating a majority of your food is clean foods. And he just, if it fits your macros, pencil means you get to a lot of it. The problem though is once you do something like that, I feel like where people are extreme, man.

They go one way or the other. And that's the, and people take something that is a decent philosophy. I think it's a really decent philosophy. The problem with the philosophy is that, you know, a majority of the people do it all wrong. It's the reason why people don't see phenomenal results from it, because a lot of them end up eating like shit

most of the time. Yeah, so I mean when it comes to influential, that's the first person I thought it was you know I thought a lay lay-norton and then I thought of Dave Asprey. But you know what else I think about? Mark Maastroff in fitness in Mark Maastroff who who's a founder or twenty-faire fitness changed the game at how gyms operate and sell Memberships and build he changed the game more than once. Well, he changed it with 24 fitness. And now, and then he sold,

and now he owns, you know, fitness holdings worldwide and things in the name of it, that owns UFC gyms, yoga works, crunch, yoga works. So he just kind of tends to be a trendsetter. And I think he's extremely influential, but a lot of people don't know who he is because he's kind of behind the scenes.

Well, and that's just that in itself, the fact that you were the owner creator of 24-hour fitness and now he's owner creator of UFC Jimt, which, you know, we're on, those that are listening that have never seen one yet, they're fucking awesome, go inside one. Best big box gym ever been. Absolutely.

And we all, you could have asked any of the three of us, for sure, before they even, the first one opened, we could have told you where I was gonna go. You put, you take Mark Maastroff, the OG of the gym industry, and you pair him with Dana White, the fastest growing sport in the world right now. And what do you get?

You get UFC gyms, and it's pretty obvious, well, the direction it's going in. It's, they're already a force, but there'll be a dominant force in the future for sure. And one of the things you can count on for someone like him, he's always on the, on the front end of it. But that's someone you want to keep an eye out for. That being, that being, that being said, that's talking on a business influential. And I wouldn't necessarily say Mark Mashov as Mr. Program designed himself. No, no, has, has anything to do with that.

And same thing with Asprey, same thing with Lane Norton, as far as program design, as far as building some like that, I would say out of all the people we've named Julian Michaels, Lane Norton, other. Oh, yeah, by far here. He'll go out. Okay, I would say that out of all the people we just named, Dave Asprey, Lane Norton, all the stupid bodybuilders, Joey Swolls, Joey Michaels, I think the only one I can tell you that I have a lot of respect for his entire philosophy is probably laying north. Yeah, well, he's because he's a he's a trainer. He's actually a real, you know, coach and trainer, although Jillian Michaels is also a trainer, she's very much on the celebrity aspect of it. The TV show type of stuff. Yeah, personality and, you know, she's the

America's hardcore trainer. Yeah, that kind of thing. We would rip her to shreds if she was on here. Let's be honest. Yeah, whatever. WhatkinsR23 is asking about your thoughts on ketogenic diets for fat loss. Again. So ketogenic diet again. So to clarify,

ketogenic diet is eating a diet that's high in fat, moderate and protein, very, very low in carbohydrates. The body's systems of energy production switch over from taking carbohydrates and using them as energy to take fat and using them as energy. Some people, a lot of people, do extremely well on a diet like this. Not all people, though, but a lot of people do do very, very well. A couple of reasons number one key tones which are produced when your body burns fat Are appetite suppressive so that that part helps

Some people have you know who do it their energy seems to be more consistent throughout the day They don't get the ups and downs like they would with carbohydrates Those two reasons right there. I would say are probably a couple of reasons why it seems to be very successful for certain people. I know for me, when I eat ketogenic or around a ketogenic diet, because sometimes I increase my carbs, but I never go too high with them,

I feel way better. I do not do well. Like high carbs for me would be a low carb day for Adam. You know what I'm saying? If I'm eating high carbs is 250 in a day. And that's your dieting. That's low carb. Yeah, that's your dieting.

You know, so for some people, it works really, really well. And it's a good thing to be in that way. I'm glad you positioned that way, because I had a feeling you were gonna come out a little different on this, because I know you have been doing it a lot and you've been writing about how you feel and a lot of things.

And I agree with what he's saying right now. I think that there's all kinds of signs that supports the benefits behind it. I think it's great. And I think if you have the discipline to do that and you feel great when you do it, then maybe it is something you most certainly should consider. And I think it could be excellent for Phallus.

Now the flip to that. And just like he said, somebody like me, when I'm cutting, it's 300 grams of carbs. So, that, I never would eat that much. Yeah, I lose body weight at 300 grams of carbs. My maintenance is more like 350 to 400, surplus is above that. So for me, when I go,

I've done this, I've manipulated on no carb, I've done 50 grams, 100, I've done all kinds of playing around with. I don't feel good now, and I also know this about the ketogenic diet, too, it takes what 14 days before your body switches. First of all, it takes that long, yeah. So I've never really truly given myself 14 days or more

of being ketogenic to see if my body switches over and then I don't ever miss a car again. But I, there's a lot of carbohydrates that I really enjoy. And if you're going to do ketogenic and you're going to stick to it and you're going to be true to it and get the true benefits of it, you got to stick to it and you got to really do it. Fully balls deep.

Yeah. Otherwise, it could, I, and the experience that I hope with people that try it, it ends up backfiring on them because what they do is they take all the carbs away and they go for a few days or maybe even a week or two at a time. And then because they've missed it so bad, they over-binge on the other side. And now their body has gotten used to not consuming carbs and it started to get efficient without that. And now they're flooding it with not even not even what they were eating

before but more than that you just get this huge weight gain from it. So if you're somebody who doesn't think they're going to miss carbohydrates then I mean by all means but dude I like I would here's my theory I would rather build a metabolism and teach my body how to how to utilize carbohydrates so that I can go do that every once in a while and not pay the price. If you live in a ketogenic lifestyle and then you decide I'm going to the movies with my friends and I'm going to have popcorn and candy and soda and just enjoy myself for a day, that's going to affect your body a hell of a lot different than it would affect mine. Because I can walk in there and do that and it won't work.

Oh, I'll get hyper. I notice a big sugar rush if I have something. But I'll tell you what, statistically speaking, when they do studies on this and they do large group studies and they'll say you on this group all you guys we want you to You know just cut your calories and you on this group. We don't want you to cut your calories. We just want you to not eat carbs When they follow these people for six months in a year the no-car group loses more weight and keeps it off more effectively. This is like over and over when they do studies. So it seems, for a lot of people, it's more effective, but I will say this, the human body is extremely adaptive with different types of eating.

There's cultures that eat a lot of carbohydrates and are very healthy and live a long time, and then there's cultures that eat no, almost no carbohydrates and they're very healthy as well. The body is extremely effective at adapting to different types of foods and the way we eat and humans have been on earth for a long time and we've almost got to stink several times. So it's probably, you know, why we can do so. But so I would say try it out for yourself.

I think if you're a very overweight person, people who tend to be really, really big tend to be very insulin sensitive. And in that case, cutting carbohydrates down very low tends to be very effective, I've seen. Especially people who really obese or have been obese the whole life. I think that's a really good point.

That's a definite person who, even myself, what I'm doing is restricting that because of that. Although I know, I think I'm pretty sure I know who walkins is and I've seen his IG is pretty fit. Yeah, he's pretty ripped, dude. I don't think I think he's looking for the next level of getting shredded or what like that.

And you know, the the ketogenic thing and I feel like it's so hot right now. I feel like I know. I feel like this is like the four times. He's grown like legs. He's lasting my check. Right. I feel that and is like the four times grown like legs. It's last time I check right I feel that and it's nothing. It's nothing really new some new science is emerging But even the study like Sal talked about I mean you you mentioned the study

But even then I tried bringing this up in my wife Courtney always like scoffs at me He's like, you know, key to jettic because she's coming from the medical version of that. Right. Right. And so like, you know, obviously the version of fitness is a lot different. And they do have like some inclusions of carbohydrates in there. Am I right, Sal? Well, as far as the, I mean, like there's there's a minor amounts of it, but I mean, they're they're excessively like super extreme. Yeah, so, yeah, the medical community, when you do it for medical purpose, like epilepsy? It's not just a lot of fat, it's mostly what you eat. So it's like, it'll be like 75% of your calories

come from fat or 80% from fat and very little from protein and none from carbs. That's the real ketogenic diet. But then athletes when they do ketogenic diets will have a little bit more protein and give themselves more vegetables that'll come up as some carbs. And then you have things like the cyclic ketogenic diet where you only have carbs around your workouts.

And there's a lot of different ways that people try to apply this. For me personally, I can eat ketogenic in the sense that I eat a lot of fat, I eat a moderate amount of protein, and I don't eat any carbohydrates except for maybe vegetables. And if I don't watch that I eat mostly, I eat a lot of fat, I eat a moderate amount of protein, and I don't eat any carbohydrates, except for maybe vegetables. And if I don't watch what I eat,

if I just do that, and I eat, and I try to eat a lot, and when I'm hungry, I snack, and whatever, but I stay within those guidelines, I stay lean. Yeah, well, I just stay lean. I don't have to worry about that. I know that too, but I mean, that's, a lot of that has to do with your fat, satiating, and when you're eating protein.

Totally. I mean, you're eating some of that has to do with your fat satiating and when you're eating protein. Totally. I mean, you're eating some dense, dense, full foods and carbs, you could take a handful of some carbs and that could be three, 400 calories. Yeah, and make me hungry. Yeah, yeah, and that's exactly what I'm saying. It makes me really, I make you exactly, make you want to keep diving into it.

Like the whole, you know, you can't just eat one chip type of daily. I'm just saying you just keep eating and eating. Well, dude, I had over the weekend, I had some gum, some sugar free gum, which I usually don't eat just because of the artificial sweetener, but I had some. It tastes to me. I taste so sweet because I don't ever have sugar. It's like, and I know my body's gone to that point where it's going to be heightened. And it's, you know, my sense is that it's

an orgasm from a strawberry. Oh, a strawberry right now would literally eat like, it would taste like like a gummy bear would. Well, people that have been listening to this back from back when I did my show prep and we interviewed me through that whole process. I mean, I told you guys, that's one of my favorite parts about depleting and cutting and coming down is I get rid of so much of that crap in my diet

that you literally do bite into a strawberry or an apple and it literally tastes like candy. I mean, it is that rich and that full. And that's why I always tell people too when they, when they scoff or make fun of people that eat really clean and do stuff like that. I'm like, you know what's crazy? And this also goes back to this IFI or IFI, IFYM bullshit is that, you know, it's amazing when you actually do eat really, really clean for a long period of time.

How much your system gets cleaned out. And then all of a sudden, whole natural food start to taste different. They become much richer. And you actually, you don't, you stop craving like crap. Oh, yeah. And your fats and your natural sugars like found in fruit and vegetables all of a sudden become very satisfying. Where before I overwhelmed anymore and overpowered with all these condensed, you know, flavors

that are just hitting you like, exactly. And when it makes such perfect sense when you talk about the science of it, because that's all sugars and candies and all this artificial stuff is it's condensed and it's overload on your brain. Listen, your brain has receptors that pick up signals that tell you what something should taste like. It only makes sense that if you overload the shit out of

them with stuff that you would not find in nature, because our brains evolved in a completely different environment, that they will down-regulate certain receptors because it's like, whoa, what is all this? I'm going to down-regulate some of my receptors so that it doesn't set so overwhelming. Then you adapt to that flavor and then that tastes normal to you. Whereas if you don't have it and you have a little bit, it's like boom, you know, like you said, explosion of taste. Here's the thing, you could put a bowl of potato chips in front of me, which I love potato chips, okay?

And I would not, I wouldn't want to touch anyone. But if I have one of them, I'm fucking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta keep that in mind also. This is also one of the things with, you know, when you're making those choices and you're saying, I'm going to purposely schedule in this cheat day or cheat meal, you're gonna fucking be hungry.

You're gonna be hungry and you're gonna crave shit for like the next two or three days. Sometimes a week, that's what happens to me, I know that. And it happens to my clients. Well, they'll have a cheat day and then it's like hard to get back on track. Now, if there's a reason for eating what you're eating, like it's your kid's birthday or it's like hard to get back on track. Now, if there's a reason for eating which are eating like it's your kids birthday

or it's a celebration or, you know, it's worth it. But if it's like, ooh, I'm gonna schedule the cheat day on Friday. It's like, well, isn't it so much better to just let it happen? Like naturally, like you're not like planning that. You're just like, you show up, it's there. Okay, this is happening, you know, but I did,

it's not like you're obsessing about it. Right. Yeah, because then when you plan for it, you're just concentrating on that. I'm glad you brought that up right now because you just reminded me. I'm training one of my private clients that did. She has a little TV always running on

in the garage when we're working out. And Oprah went and frees on. And Oprah just had a guest. This is recent last two weeks. So those that have watched is probably remember this show. And I forget the name of the diet, but they had this lady come on and it was, you know, she was long to get for the beginning of January. So this is the big program. And she was talking about how this, the whole, the whole basis on this is scheduling, you know, your

cheat meals throughout the whole month. Like, okay, I'm going to cheat on this Thursday. I'm going to cheat on that the following Sunday. I need at least one Sunday, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, I think it's the same thing that I used to get when people would hire me for competing and getting ready for a show. And they'd be like, well, when do I get a cheat day or what's my cheat day?

And I'm like, I don't understand this philosophy. My goal is for us to never cheat, but it's gonna happen. We know that. We know there's gonna be a challenge, there's gonna be to, but why do we wait until it becomes a situation where you feel like, man, Adam, it is my kids birthday. I don't wanna be eating on a tupperware.

I don't wanna be eating all this boring ass. If it don't enjoy, I wanna have a slice of cake with him and have a barbecue and do all these things and be normal. I'm like, great, this is a perfect opportunity for us to eat off of our meal plan. Go ahead and enjoy yourself our a day, you know. Be mindful, you know, you know, you're, if you're consuming those things, be

keeping your portions, you know, under control, like something else, or be active, you know, move around, be active, be mindful, a lot more water, you know, to cast. Yes, but what's not planned out when you're going to come off, because otherwise you do exactly what Sal was saying. And you'll notice every time you introduce that, you kick that craving right back up, you kick that right back up. That's right.

You're trying to turn that mechanism back on. It makes it more difficult. And here's the thing too, and I guarantee if you're a trainer listening, you've heard this from your clients, they'll eat really well for a long time, they'll do really good, and then they'll go and have pizza, and they'll be like, oh my God, pizza last night, you're like, listening, you've heard this from your clients. They'll eat really well for a long time. They'll do really good, and then they'll go and have pizza, and then they'll be like, oh my God,

I ate pizza last night. You're like, oh, was it good? And they'll be like, yeah, but I got really sick. I felt horrible or whatever. I used to be able to eat that food, but now I can't anymore. The reality is they always felt shitty before. They just have a contrast now.

They felt so good that when they ate that food, they realized how bad it made them feel. This is also one of the benefits of eating. They call it habituation. I mean, but it's one of the benefits of it. I eat, if I eat something, you know, quote unquote bad now, I feel shitty. And so you know what part of my motivation

for not eating it is? To not feel shitty. Yeah, like if we're going to a birthday party and everybody's having fun and I'm looking at the cake and I'm thinking, you know, I wanna join fun and I'm looking at the cake and I'm thinking I want to enjoy myself and I'm like, you know, I'm not gonna have a good workout the next day I'm gonna feel crappy. It's gonna make me hungrier for the next couple three, you know two or three days I'd rather not it's not because I'm thinking I'm gonna get fat. I'm thinking to myself

I don't want to feel crappy and that's a much healthier association with or connection to food and It goes back to you know the analogy of performance, you know, what does this do for me? You know, not like, oh my god, so good tasting. Yeah. Exactly. So moralistory, moralistory, balance. Subscribe to MindPump, leave a five-star rating and review. Thank you.

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